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Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars S9E12 "Grand Finale Variety Extravaganza: Part 2"
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Trinity The Tuck
Close your eyes. Exhale. Feel your body relax.
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Bob The Drag Queen
And let go of whatever you're carrying today.
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Trinity The Tuck
Well, I'm letting go of the worry that I wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class. I got them delivered free from 1-800-contacts. Oh, my gosh, they're so fast. And breathe.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Oh, sorry.
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Trinity The Tuck
I almost couldn't breathe when I saw
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Bob The Drag Queen
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Trinity The Tuck
Oh, sorry. Namaste. Visit 1-800-contacts.com today to save on your first order.
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Bob The Drag Queen
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Trinity The Tuck
Well, well, well.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Look at us getting all dolled up for the finale of RuPaul's Drag Race. All Out Season 9 Episode 12 actually, y', all, full disclosure. We signed onto the thing. Y' all know me. I had on my little. I had on my. My mistress Isabelle T shirt and a hat. And Trinity came in with this fierce hat. And it's like top tank, top detail. I said, oh, God, no, I gotta change it up.
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Trinity The Tuck
No, I told you that I, I was literally rushing to get ready for this and looked in my closet and this like, this is like a going out top.
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Bob The Drag Queen
I literally.
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Trinity The Tuck
This is the only thing clean. I was like, I ripped it off the hanger, threw it on. I was like, oh, this hat was perfect with it because above where I hang my clothes is all my hats. And this one was literally just there. So I just pulled her down. So it wasn't like I planned this.
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Bob The Drag Queen
On All Stars, you had a red hat. A red hat like that, right?
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Trinity The Tuck
I had a half black. No, you're thinking of my jacket. Well, no, I think I did wear this for All Stars for one of the, for one of the workrooms. But my.
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Bob The Drag Queen
That'd be for your interview.
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Trinity The Tuck
But interview I had. It was just black.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Oh, okay. Work, work.
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Trinity The Tuck
But my jacket was half red, half black.
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Bob The Drag Queen
That's what it was. That's what it was. You know, going back for your. When you go back to do the Show. And like, the first time. The first two times, I, like, I gave them, like, four, three options, and they chose exactly for this for all stars. 7. I should. I was like, I'm wearing. This is exactly what I want. There are no options. This is what I'm gonna wear for the thing. They're like, okay, sure. It just goes to prove, like, you really. Your first couple times on Drag Race, you're so meek, and you're so just like, okay, yes, whatever you guys would like to do all sorts. 7. I said, I'm wearing all black and this black hat, and that's it. And you don't get any.
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Trinity The Tuck
They will never have another winter season because we were.
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Bob The Drag Queen
That's what we were.
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Trinity The Tuck
We were literally. We told them what we were doing.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. What's going on, girl? You told me, you told me that your cat is crazy, huh? Still crazy.
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Trinity The Tuck
So she is bipolar. Like, one second she's, like, cuddling and purring and wanting me to pet her and then literally will turn around and, like, attack me, attack me. I have, like, slash marks all over my legs from her. And she's only four months old, like, and she's tiny.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah, kittens.
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Trinity The Tuck
Kittens.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Like, I learned from my cats who. My colleague was like, a kitten, kitten, kitten. She was a lot. She was, she was a handful, but she grew out of that, like, around, I want to say, like, eight months, when she, like, when she, like, settled more into her personality, like, how she is now, and she's got energy, and Colleen is four years, so I guess Colleen is still technically young. I, I, I don't understand in, in pet years when they are adults or whatever, but I think she's four years now, so I think she is an adult now. I believe. I don't even know, but.
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Trinity The Tuck
Well, girl, I, I have, I have four more months to go before I reach that status. And she has already chewed through two iPhone, two iPhone cords, A. My heated lash curler cord.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Like, Wait, you have a heated, like, eyelash curler?
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah, girl. They're not expensive on. You can get them on Amazon. They're. And it's fierce. It, like, immediately curls your lash with minimal work. Yeah, it's really. Yeah,
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Bob The Drag Queen
I use an old, I use an old, like, the old school one. Like, when I do a little, like, boy, look, I always curl my lashes and put a little mascara and, like, I feel like the regular ones bitch, it. You do it for, like, 15 seconds, and then by the time you take it off, it, like, slowly just goes back against my heat. I never know they had a heated
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Trinity The Tuck
one, but on Amazon it is fierce. And they're not expensive. They're like really cheap.
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Bob The Drag Queen
It's fierce rich. Yes. And she. True. And she chewed through that.
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Trinity The Tuck
She chewed through the cord. She. I found today, this morning, went into the bathroom to brush my teeth. My toothbrush was in her litter box. Yeah. I've got to figure out. I got to figure out how to. Well, of course I threw that away like, hello. But I've got to figure out a way to keep her off the counters.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Okay, so I see. So what I. What how I trained Colleen when I first got her, I had a little spray bottle with water. So when she did something that she's not supposed to do, she got sprayed with water. And she learned, like, because Colleen does not. She does not get in my countertops. Like, Colleen does not like anything that I didn't want her to do. I trained her with that spray. I trained her with the spray bottle. And I, for me personally, that helped a lot because any fucking habits that settle in as a kitten, they're going to do into adulthood. So. Bitch. From day one, she was getting spray bottle for everything. That was not that I found to be less than savory. And I find it's really worked out. Colleen does not Anyone any of my friends know. Colleen does not is not a bad behaved cat. She's very well behaved.
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Trinity The Tuck
I got to figure that out because I keep her in my master bathroom and when, you know, when I'm sleeping and stuff for now. And you know, if she's jumping on the counter at night when I'm sleeping, I won't be able to squirt her with a water bottle. But one, the reason why I'm keeping her in the bathroom is because this is kind of gross. But she's. Every time she goes to the litter box and she poops, she tracks poop.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. She doesn't know. Yeah. It's a kitten. She doesn't know how to make sure it's all. It's all off.
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Trinity The Tuck
Literally. I have like pet wipes all around my house because I have to like, constantly be wiping her feet.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. I'm like, yeah, oh my God, I forgot how much. Yeah. And also, and. And sphinxes after they. You gotta like, even into adulthood. I mean, Colleen is way better now, but they still have a little. Because they don't have hair back there. There's always just a little poop back there. So you gotta wipe their butts all the time.
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Trinity The Tuck
I have to do that with my Frenchies. Too.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Oh, really?
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Trinity The Tuck
Girl, my animals are the most high maintenance fucking animals ever. I feel like I am like literally rushing around. This is why I would never have a cat. A kid. I would never have a kid. I would never have a kid.
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Bob The Drag Queen
I know. That was my thing about having a kid. I was like, you know, what if I have a cat? Worst case scenario, like, and I didn't, y', all, so please do not say anything crazy. Worst case scenario, I could give her to another. Like, find someone else who would take her through the streets. But, well, with a kid, you can't return them. Like, you can't bring them back to anyone. Girl, once you have that kid, that kid is your kid forever and ever. Amen.
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Trinity The Tuck
Like, I don't know. I think you can, I think you can leave them at like fire stations, police stations, hospitals, libraries, a bus stop. I think you can leave them everywhere, you know?
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. And then, and, and then that, that's when people like Austin will find them, girl.
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Trinity The Tuck
I, I truly believe keep kids away from drag queens. I, I do not. Oh, I just got this off Austin Wolf. I just, I just got that. Yeah, girl. At least it wasn't a drag queen. At least it wasn't a drag queen, bitch.
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Bob The Drag Queen
All this shit they're trying to say that we doing and it be all. Anyway, enough about Austin Wolf and our pets Trinity. It's the finale of season nine of All Stars. Before we get into the whole mix of it all, like, what is your temperature on the season? Because I think that this was, I thought this was a good season. I think that the drama was lacking for me because hours no one went home, so the stakes were already low. But this time they're not even fighting for the money for themselves. So I feel like the stakes are super low on this one because they really have nothing, literally nothing to lose because they're not. There's nothing they can walk away with besides the crown. There is nothing these girls are walking away with. Not money, not, not, not the, not, not like the $200,000. Nothing.
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah, I, I again, I think if they want to incite drama, there needs to be more. And the, the giving away badges, it's almost like everybody gets a star, you know, Everybody gets a trophy. And I, I don't. I think if you want drama, you've gotta. The producers know how to create drama. They've done it in the past. They know how to do it. Yeah. So, yeah, I think when you have such a low stakes that you've got to create something else for good tv because, girl, the untucked are unwatchable.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. I. Y', all, full disclosure, I stopped watching them. I stopped, like, about three episodes ago, I stopped watching the Tucker. I was like, I can do something. I can do better things with my time. No shade to girls. But I was like, I'd rather, you
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Trinity The Tuck
know, scoop my toothbrush out of my cat's litter box than watch these untucked. They're so. It's so boring. Like, there's nothing exciting about it. Yeah.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah.
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Trinity The Tuck
But overall, I. I have enjoyed the episode or the. The season. I did enjoy the season overall. There was not enough drama, but I've enjoyed the looks. I've thought the caliber of performances overall have been really good.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah.
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Trinity The Tuck
So in that aspect, I have enjoyed it. But it's like, literally, because there's no drama, you can fast forward through everything except for the runways and the challenge.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. Yeah. And at the top of the episode, I'm like, these walk into the workroom. They're already sobbing and bawling and crying. I'm like, didn't y' all get this all out with the. When 75% of y' all were balling with Rue? These bitches are. These girls are emotional. I get so emo. No, you just emotions. I get so emotional, baby, every time I think of you. Yeah, that's the rose petals, the rose petal girls.
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Trinity The Tuck
I. I don't understand all the crying. I mean, I get it. Like, certain things. Like, you. It does make you emotional. Being there and you're, like, away from your friends and family and away from, like, everything for that amount of time does weigh on you. It does. But that much crying, I'm like, girl, what are we watching? General Hospital or Drag Race?
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Bob The Drag Queen
Oh, my God. General Hospital. As the World Turns. Are soap operas done? Do the soap opera still come out? I think I've not seen a soap opera mad long.
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Trinity The Tuck
I don't know. That was just me regurgitating trauma from my childhood because my aunt used to record every single soap opera, every single episode.
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Bob The Drag Queen
I mean, she was committed because you couldn't just dvr, you had to put a tape in the thing and record it like that.
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Trinity The Tuck
This is like in the. The late 80s, early 90s, before, like, all that where you had to VHS. You had to record on VHS. And she would have literally, like, people have libraries with books. She had wall to wall vhs. And she. It was. She was like. This was like my adopted grandfather that raised me. So she wasn't blood. It was his sister. So I only saw her, like, once. A year like Christmas. I wasn't super close to her. And she lived with their mother still. And she was like, you know, 45, 50 years old, living with her mother for no reason. And there was like. She was like literally like a cat lady.
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Bob The Drag Queen
With tapes. I. I used to. I used to record like that episodes of Sabrina the Teenage Witch. I used to record all these episodes of Serene. I would just get. I had like. But I didn't have enough tape. So like, I would have to like rerecord over other takes. My. My family wouldn't buy me new tapes. I don't remember why, but I used to record.
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah, because they're like, why are you recording this white bitch? That's like literally like the most basic boring white girl. I look back at that.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Sabrina was amazing girl.
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Trinity The Tuck
That was the most boring show.
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Bob The Drag Queen
No, it was not, bitch. I used to walk around my house. I used to like point at things and like one of my cell phones
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Trinity The Tuck
her with her lazy eye. Like, she. You know, she looked kind of crazy.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Selena. Selena. I said Selena. Selena Davenport. Wait. Selena. Esther.
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Trinity The Tuck
What kind of drag queen have you. What? Who are you? What are you talking about?
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Bob The Drag Queen
This is so bad. My brain made a. Because you said the lazy eye. And then my brain made an association to Kennedy Davenport. And I don't know why I said
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Trinity The Tuck
Selena to Kennedy Davenport.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Wow. I know. But Sabrina was. She have a lazy eye.
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Trinity The Tuck
She did. She.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Melissa Joan Hart.
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Trinity The Tuck
It didn't look. It didn't look this direction. It was. It was just like one was like lazy. Like one open wider than the other. I have a big back and look at pictures. One of her eyes opens wider than the other. It is lazy.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Oh, God. I wonder.
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Trinity The Tuck
Sloppy show that you were recording. I can't believe that. My other cousin used to record Xena the Warrior.
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Bob The Drag Queen
I used to love Xena too. I don't record it. I know why she.
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Trinity The Tuck
She did that because she ended up coming out as a lesbian.
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Bob The Drag Queen
So there we go, girl. Lucy Lawless is the ultimate. Is Lucy Laws. Jacob, can you look up? Is Lucy Lawless a lesbian?
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Trinity The Tuck
No.
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Bob The Drag Queen
I thought she had.
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Trinity The Tuck
I don't think she's not. She was in another show a couple of years ago that my boyfriend tried to get me to watch. It was like Gladiator or something.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Oh, all right. Lucy Lawless. Get it. And then Sonique comes into the workroom. That is one thing that I am very jealous about. That they got to like. The winners get to normally come into the previous season. Winner comes and interacts on the last episode and ours Was just a fucking video we filmed at. Wow.
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Trinity The Tuck
You want to know the tea? Do you want to know the tea people? You want to know why? Do we want to tell. Do we want to tell why, Will? We forgot.
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Bob The Drag Queen
I forgot the details about what happened to be.
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Trinity The Tuck
We were on tour. You and I were on tour in Australia.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Australia. Yeah.
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Trinity The Tuck
They told us literally last minute, hey, do you. Can you be here? We were like, yes, We. We were even willing to cancel dates on our tour. That's money. Like. Like thousands and thousands. Like tens of thousands of dollars. We were going to cancel to come back and film. And then last minute, literally last minute after we had our looks made, paid to have made. We spent thousands of dollars to have our stuff made, they contact us literally days before and say, oh, we're not buying you plane tickets from Australia back. So we didn't get a step down.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah, that. Yeah. Now, yeah, I remember all of the details.
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Trinity The Tuck
When we were willing to move around our schedule for them, we were willing to do whatever we had to do. We. We were willing to lose money. We already paid for our looks. We were ready to go. And so all we got was. After we got back, they made time for us to come into the wow. Studio and record something on somebody's phone that they used for. For the little message.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Damn. Did Shea. Did she get to step down? Did she do something for All Star six?
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Trinity The Tuck
I think All Stars six was during
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Bob The Drag Queen
COVID so they weren't bringing people to set.
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah, no. Shay had to do it through Zoom. She had that robotic look, I think, on Zoom. And then. Yeah. So I think All Stars 3 was the last to do it, right.
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Bob The Drag Queen
All Stars 3. And then. I don't remember. And Jimbo did it for them.
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Trinity The Tuck
Jimmy didn't do a step down. This was supposed to be Jimbo stepped down. No, Jimbo didn't do a step. Step down for also.
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Bob The Drag Queen
No, no. This was. This was supposed to be Jimbo's Jimbo season.
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Trinity The Tuck
That's right. Jinx. Neither one of those did. And then.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah, yeah. Well, so. So Nick comes in. She looks stunning as always. And I gag when she says to Chanel, oh, they done drug you out the ground, honey. I was like, jesus. So the. Like, she was like, oh, they done drug you out of the ground, honey. And I was at Vice, my TV cackling. I was like, what?
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Trinity The Tuck
Old school, like, dressing room talk. You know what I mean? Like, you know, and the thing is, is, like, what I love about that is Chanel's in on the joke. She knows she's Old. You know, she knows she's from season one. And it's funny coming from Sony because Sonic's not a spring chicken either.
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Bob The Drag Queen
She's.
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Trinity The Tuck
She's, like, up there. She's, like, in her 40s, I think.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. Oh, it's. Oh, so Nick is absolutely in her 40s. Yeah. So.
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Trinity The Tuck
So, yeah, I think it was funny. But I mean, yeah, girl dug you up out of the grave, bitch. From your sarcophagus.
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Bob The Drag Queen
And then. And it's like, a lot of just talking about the talent show and, like, their feelings in the season. So I was like, there's not really much that I wanted to talk about in this. I was gonna go right to the thing and then talk about the talent show, because I found I was gonna.
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Trinity The Tuck
Well, yeah. Cause it was boring.
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Bob The Drag Queen
So let's go on to. I'm gonna open the document here, if we can talk about the looks and the thingies. Okay. First up, RuPaul. Okay, RuPaul. He's been into these silhouettes. These, like, these. These stiff. I don't know. You know what. What kind of fabric is that? Is that taffeta?
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Trinity The Tuck
It looks like taffeta. Yeah.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Okay. Yeah. Oh, my. Oh, my God. Look at me knowing taffeta.
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Trinity The Tuck
You're a seasoned girl now. What are you talking about? You know, you had all kinds of looks made you.
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Bob The Drag Queen
You. I did, but, like, like. Like, materials and fabrics, I'm never really, like, clear on. Like, I was in a fitting with Marco. Marco for something I'm doing. And then he was like, oh, yeah, this is a chiffon. And I'm like, okay, how do I know what's a chiffon and what's a. Like a chiffon? And he was like, oh, tulle is like, if it's. If it's floaty, but it's not. I forget what he told me. But he tried to break it down for me. I was like, oh, okay, I got it. But I. Clearly, I don't. Cause now I forgot what the fucking distinction he is. That told me between chiffon and. And T and tool. I don't know. Anyway, but. So is taffeta always stiff? Is that what it is?
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah, yeah. It's like a. It's like a. It's. It's stiff. Now. There are different finishes. Like, you can get like a. Like a shimmery, a quilted taffeta, printed taffeta. And then this is kind of like a. Like, a half sheen taffeta. You. Yeah, this is like a typical taffeta.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah, Got it. Yeah. So Ru's had a lot of, like, stiff out. He has. He's had a lot of taffeta things that feel very stiff like this, And I think this is cute. Moving on the Runway. I thought it was cute. I think RuPaul is good. I don't always love RuPaul in this kind of hair, but I think overall, she looks gorge.
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah, I think she looks great. This color looks great on her skin tone. This hair looks great. It's a very traditional RuPaul hairstyle. Her makeup looks great. I think I. I like this. She's. She's been very great to me this season with her looks. I think last season, I was just so, like, the regular season, I was so disappointed with a lot of her looks, really? But, yeah, because I feel like maybe. Maybe her designers kind of, like, tapped out.
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Bob The Drag Queen
No, Mr. Zaldi has made, like, so, like, rightfully so.
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Trinity The Tuck
She's he, he's, they. I don't know what their pronouns are, but Z is, like, made hundreds and
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Bob The Drag Queen
hundreds of thousand now between all the seasons.
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Trinity The Tuck
So, yeah, so rightfully so. But it's just, like, that's why you. At least for me, I don't use just one designer. I. I try to get different influences from different people to keep it interesting.
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Bob The Drag Queen
I mean, at this point, if Ru could get. If, like, fucking, like, the fashion houses like Gucci and Mugler and stuff, I'm sure they would like, each. Like, I'm sure they would jump at the chance to design for Ru for a whole season. Like the Zaldi. I mean, sorry. Like the RuPaul Mugler season and
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Trinity The Tuck
Bob Mackie.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Oh, yeah, that would be. But that would be so dope if Ru just partnered with a designer for a whole season. I can't think of a designer that would be like, ugh, no, I do not want to make no dress for ru for RuPaul. Like, they would probably all gag. Remember, imagine Ru x Gucci for a whole season of Drag Race. That would be so sick.
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Trinity The Tuck
Versace.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Versace, yes.
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Trinity The Tuck
Oh, yes.
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Bob The Drag Queen
So, listen, I'm sure y' all don't need any advice from us, but producers, yo, y', all, y' all got get Rue to do with. Collaborate with a designer for a whole season. The fans, we would be like, it would be every week. People would be dying to see what the. Oh, like, Rue doing Rue and Balmain for a whole season. Like, oh, my God, a season of Rouge is doing Chanel looks.
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah.
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Bob The Drag Queen
I'm, like, salivating thinking about it. That would be so fierce. Anyway, I think I'm with Michelle Visage. I love this dress. I think she looks hot. This looks great.
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah. I mean, I think she looks great. Again, I love the dress. And she's always beautiful. She has this fucking mama hair. Honey, I tell. I tell. I tell you this every episode. She's either super, like, pop star hair or grandma hair. And this, to me, is grandma hair.
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Bob The Drag Queen
I liked all of it, actually. I think it all looks really nice together. The boots that this lady's wearing are. Those are very fucking cute. And I don't know. I know her from. I don't know. I don't know where I know her from.
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Trinity The Tuck
She's a famous actress. She's been in a lot of stuff. American Horror Story season one.
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Bob The Drag Queen
I never saw American Horror Story season one. I saw.
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Trinity The Tuck
She's been in some other stuff too, but. Yeah, but that's. I think that's. Yeah, but I don't even remember her name.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Connie Britton. Connie Britton. She always plays like a mom in TV shows. She was always like, oh, White Lotus. White Lotus. That's what I know her from. White Lotus. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah. She always feels like a mom.
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah.
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Bob The Drag Queen
And Ross Matthews has this pussy boy down to his knees. He go to work. I think this. This is from his collection, too, which I said, y', all, the pants are great. All right, let's get into this challenge. You don't. You don't like it?
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Trinity The Tuck
I just. I. I just don't. I don't get his style. I feel like he tries too hard. It's always. I don't. I don't. I just don't like it. I don't. I don't like it. Most of his looks I don't. I don't get. I don't like. I think he's just trying too hard. I don't look at Ross as a fashion icon. I would rather see, like, more. I don't know. This is my opinion. I just don't, because I. I think he's trying to be a fashion icon, and he's not a fashion icon. This is ugly. To me, this looks like somebody's ugly wallpaper with a. A Pepno Bismol pant. I just. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. And, girl, what kind of. What color bronzer is he wearing? Because, girl, he is two shades away from being RuPaul.
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Bob The Drag Queen
The hands are a little lighter than the face, huh? I used to get. I used to go tanning I used to live in Portland, and my skin used to. People that's. People think that black people can't tan in a. In a. In a bed, and that's not true. In Portland, they put me onto this thing. I forgot what it's called. Something to glow. Now put it all over my skin. I would go into a tanning bed, and when I tell you my skin would be, like, shimmering golden brown. Like, I look like. Like. Like I was bronzed.
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Trinity The Tuck
Ooh. Like one of the vampires from Twilight, literally.
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Bob The Drag Queen
And I would be glowing for, like, at least five days afterwards. It was everything. And I haven't done it a very long time. I used to love going indoor tanning, but because I think that I found out all the cancer, I was okay. I don't need to be adding ways to get cancer. So I just stopped.
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Trinity The Tuck
Oh, yeah. When I was younger, my. My. One of my aunts used to have a tanning bed in her bedroom. Like, literally. Yeah. Oh, girl from. From the South. Everybody tanned. But. And. And I used to be. I'm talking about tan. Not raven tan, but, like, tan. But I just stopped doing that, too. Growing. Look at me. I am white. Although this is, like, really bright, it blows out my color. I'm. I'm way more olive because I have a lot of Greek in me.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah, but sure, you have a lot of Greek in you. And Italian.
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Trinity The Tuck
And Italian. I mean, girl, if we. If we go in that way. Girl, she has been around the world, honey. A smorgasbord.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Let's go on to Angeria's talent. She's doing her park and park number first. Her look. I think this look is fine. It's a fully sequenced gown with some gloves. I wish it would have been opera length gloves, though. And she has this flower in her hair. It's giving very, like Dorothy Dandridge, like that era of dress and style. And because they have her. Her dancers have these, like, feather fans, these ostrich feather fans. And I think this parking block number, I think it is a good number. I think it's a solid. I think it's funny. I think that it's something that I wouldn't think of, like when you think park. Because if y' all don't know like this. The term park and bark is usually reserved for a girl who will come out or someone who does a song and they just stand at the mic and they sing. They don't dance, they do anything. It's a very simple performance. But I think that Andrea dresses up really nice. I love. Because I watched these twice through. I was like, I need to watch because I watched it all yesterday and then late last night I watched them all again. I was like, let me watch these again. And I think that Andrea did a great job. I thought it was very funny. I thought she referenced herself. I thought it was actually a really good number.
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Trinity The Tuck
I. When. When she was talking about doing a number about park and Bark, I was like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know about this. I don't know how she's going to do make this like a, like a winning number. But watching it, it is exactly what it needed to be. I loved this. This is something I would do. I, I like when you, you do something that's comical. I think this is highlights exactly who Angie is. She's a pageant girl. This looks like a Miss Continental if you look at it. A Miss Continental talent with the feather fans the looking glamorous and gorgeous. I agree that the glove should be opera length but other than that she looks stunning. She looks confident. I like that the. She has like the doo boys in the background singing parts while she's like talking and referencing herself. My only thing with this, and this is probably not even on her because you know we ask production for props. These fans look pretty cheap. Yeah, yeah. I feel like with like drag shows and especially drag pageants when girls use feather fans they're always like 10 times this thick.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. And we'll see it later with Roxy. Roxy Rox probably brought her own fans.
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Trinity The Tuck
She definitely brought her own fans for sure.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But these were they. They do look a little scraggly. Like these were the last ostriches that were that, that were Arnold's epic ostriches on Ozempic Girl. But yeah, I thought it was good and like especially I'm kind of over like in a world where the just like just singing the song like because you. Because you know so many people are going to do it. Finding a way like dance and do their thing. Finding a way to do that like do your own original song but make it different. I think really makes you stand out.
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah. And I feel like the talent show is really a challenge because you have to something in 60 seconds. That's all they give you. 60 seconds is not a lot of time to have a beginning, a middle and an end for a full on realized number.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. And she did that.
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Trinity The Tuck
She did. She did great. She did a great job. This is a great final episode for Angie's showing because I, I do feel like the past couple of episodes, she's kind of been eclipsed by Roxy and Plastique a little bit. And. But this, like, brought. Not that. Not bad. Like, she's always been high to me, but this brought her right back in the front.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah, I think she did a good job. Let's go on to. Got me.
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Trinity The Tuck
I have a question.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah.
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Trinity The Tuck
Trinity, in your talent show for All
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Bob The Drag Queen
Star seven, when you ended it by
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Trinity The Tuck
having like the tea thrown in your
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Bob The Drag Queen
face, was that actual like iced tea or is that just like, like food dyed water?
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Trinity The Tuck
I think it was just dyed water. They didn't want to do iced tea because they said it was going to either stain stuff or h. Be sticky. But I had to have that thrown on me twice. So it was disgusting either way. Yeah. But I would. If they would have done iced tea, I would have been down for it. That whatever they. Whatever concoction it was, was up to them. I. I just asked for iced tea and that's what they poured on me.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. Moving on to Got Meek, who is doing her original song. What is it? This is not Skull. This is so gorge. And. And she's also going to play the guitar. And I thought this was actually really good. Like, you know. You know, I said this before. Love, Gottmik. Gottmik is so fucking talented. You know, we don't really ever look at Gottmik as like a performance based kind of perform entertainer because she has so many other disciplines that she does very well. But Bitch, she was doing Choreo. She was nailing the choreography. And I think she looks really good. Her body looks incredible. And I wonder.
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Trinity The Tuck
I never.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Is Gottmix Whiteface. Is that like, because of her, like, Is like, Kiss her favorite band of all time? Like, does she love Gene Simmons? And I never. Maybe there's some correlation there, maybe there's not. But I think Gottmik looked. She did a really good job. And her playing the guitar, I think one thing she could have done. And maybe Mick, if you see this, you can use this in your performances. Because it's supposed to be so punk and so edgy. Whatever. To get the guitar pick to play the guitar, she should have like, made out with like, one of the boys and he, like, puts it in her mouth with like, the tongue kissing and then just like, like. Because that's just so punk. I feel like it would have, like. It's such a small thing that would have made the performance really, like, above for me. But I thought. I thought the Gottman did a good job.
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah. I also Think that it's very punk to have, like, sparklers. Kind of like how Plastique had out of her boobs. Like, if while she was playing the guitar for the performance of it, it had, like, sparklers coming out both ends or something. I feel like this was a good number. It was a good number. It was solid. It wasn't bad at all. I don't think this would have won regardless, because I just don't think it appeals broad enough to the Drag Race audience or the judges, really. RuPaul likes comedy. She likes comedy. She. Although, like, every so often, a real talent will win. Like you, like when you did opera, like, you had a raw, real talent that hardly ever wins, though, because she likes comedy. But. Huh.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Shay one too.
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah. But I'm saying that's kind of rare. Like, mine was kind of comedy.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Who won? Who else?
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Trinity The Tuck
The person who won this, you know, they did comedy. There's a lot of instances where comedy and, you know, in challenges, when people
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Bob The Drag Queen
do get hardly ever stupid.
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Trinity The Tuck
I think this is solid. I think this is solid. It's not my cup of tea. I'm not into, like, rock music, but I thought she did a great job, looked great. I think she nailed the choreography. I just think it, like, the sparklers would have made it even better or something like that.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah, Yeah. I think to like. To really like for it to gag the judges more with. With. Especially if you're doing something that's off the beaten path, like punk rock, that it may not be super familiar, you have to, like, camp it up a little bit so that they can be like, oh, wow. Like, I think. I think to your point, adding the sparklers and guitar, like, every time she strummed it, that have been dope. Like getting the toothpick from some guy's mouth and like, all, like, this campy little bite you can add to the performance to heighten it for the judges. I think would have. Would have. Could have nailed her.
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Trinity The Tuck
I also think because she came after Angeria, that hurt her because Angeria did so good. I. I. And I. And I know, like, a lot of people, like, oh, it's not comparative. It is comparative. When you're. When anybody watches something and you. Somebody does great, and then somebody else comes behind them and they don't outdo them. They're gonna compare the two. They just are.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. Moving on to Jorgeous. Jorgeous is doing her an original song, and she's dancing, and I thought Jorgeous was good. She had high energy. It was a good dance number. But besides the Slide thing at the end, which was incredible. I don't think there were enough elements that she added to this performance to make it memorable. Like, again, Jorgeous is a great performer. She's a good dancer. The number was good. But in these talent shows you want to find, like, if she added like a couple more tricks besides just a sliding thing at the end, like throughout the number and paste them, well, I think that would have yielded. Yielded a good result. But off the bat, I just think like, it was just. There was more that could have been done to make it. To make her like shine brighter.
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Trinity The Tuck
I loved this. This was one of my top picks for the like, aside from angeria. I was obsessed. I. I do agree with you. I think she could have added some more tricks, but I enjoy watching her dance. I think she's such a stage performer. There is technique and talent to somebody who can do choreography and do it as well as she does. Sorry, there's a plane. And then that trick of the slide was at the right moment because it was the climax and that looked hard as to do so for sure.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Jordan. That's like me taking this bottle and throwing a girl. This bitch weighs like, these dancers could probably hold her up on a finger like, hey, girl, girl.
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Trinity The Tuck
She probably. This is probably one of her moves in the bedroom. You know, they always say. They always say, you know, work to your strengths, honey. I guess the gate finally came through.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Well, you. Well, you know, that's how they were holding her up through the gate. His head was holding her up in the gate and he just slid her down. So can someone please edit her sliding into a dick in her mouth at the end of it? Just like someone standing. Just like girl.
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Trinity The Tuck
That would have been fear.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. He was holding her up through the gape and just slid her down and. Yeah, that's interesting.
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Trinity The Tuck
She was doing multiple things. She was a puppet. She did a flip and throw.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. So I mean, I want to also say, I do agree that it does take an immense amount of talent and energy to dance and perform as well as jorgeous does. I just wanted a little more for the final challenge where you like, like the final challenge for three star. Like, you gotta give me a three star worthy performance, you know?
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Next up was plastique. And again, see, so this is the difference. Plastique is doing an original song. She's singing. But throughout her entire thing, plastique is layering it with all these different things. She comes out, she does this arm stretch thing across the entire stage, does a reveal. Then she then she then she has the, the light, the swords that, that she does this thing in the dark. They shut all the lights off and she does this thing in the dark, which is another thing. Then she has the sparklers on her tits. Like, I just think that, like, she just added these elements throughout. Just a lip sync number to yourself to, to, to make the number bigger and better.
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Trinity The Tuck
So I disagree with you on this one too. I, what I think, I think this was fantastic. I think. And if this was done on All Stars 4, she would have definitely beat me. Because I think since our season, every year the talent shows get more intricate and more elevated. So I think if she was on All Stars 4, she would have definitely beat me. But to me, the elements that she included, although they were cool and there was, it, it seemed unfinished. I felt like the, the look with the sleeves, I needed a bigger silhouette of the bot. I needed the bottom to be huge if the sleeves are going to be huge. It just looked, it looked like this was a cool idea, but the design of that just wasn't fulfilled all the way. And also the batons, it was such a quick thing. And, and they weren't, she wasn't really twirling batons. She, like, waved it around a little. You know what I mean? It wasn't, it just wasn't. No. I did find the sparkler thing exciting because it was something different. I thought she did good. It was good, but it wasn't. To me, George's outperformed her.
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Bob The Drag Queen
I did that. George's. I did think, I do think George is, did a very good, great job. And I also want to say, I think there is, there is, there is excellence and refinement. Like, George is like, just like committing to a simpler routine to show, like, the gravity of, and the depth of her talents as a dancer and a performer. And I do think there is something to, like, someone putting a lot of elements in, like plastique that maybe can sometimes detract from how great a performer she is, if that makes any sense.
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah, because you only have 60 seconds. So you're literally throwing everything in the kitchen sink in 60 seconds. Like, there's not enough that you didn't. What, what talent did you showcase? Like, take it, like taking off a costume, waving around some lights, and then flicking a button to spark something. Was it a show? Yeah, but I, I just, I don't know. I didn't see. It was entertaining. It was good. I, I view it kind of like, got mix. It was good. These are all really good. I, I, I But. But to me, it just wasn't up to, like. I enjoyed Angeria's better, and I enjoyed Jorgeous is better.
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Bob The Drag Queen
One thing I would say, I think plastic didn't eat. And I think it. It. To me, it kind of cheapened her whole thing because, yeah, I just didn't think it was necessary. The marshmallows. Like, I was like, I get it. You're trying to, like, do a funny thing at the end of marshmallows. But I was like, you don't. You know what? Plastique. This is your talent. This is your talent. And what you are is a fucking sexy ass, stunningly beautiful drag queen. You don't need the marshmallow bit. The marshmallow bit was. It was extra and so unnecessary that she felt compelled to add this, like, funny bit at the end. And also, I think that when she did this, when she sparked her tits, it should have happened when they lifted her up and then when they had her, the thing. That's when her tits would have been like. I think that would have been a better placement for the sparkling tits if I. If I had to nitpick. Yeah, Yeah, I agree with that. And let's go on to Nina. So Nina west opens up this number. And if y' all don't know, Nina west has this iconic look she does at Entertainment of the Year, the one that she won of the Living Dress. And so that's what she's referencing at the top of this is her. She's referencing herself with this living Dress. And I don't know what it was about these dis scraggly living Dress. It just was. And it is such a small thing in a number like Trinity said, you have 60 seconds. But the Living Dress was not giving because y'. All. The original one was so fierce. And when I tell you, you could not. And maybe because I knew, Maybe because I know the reference, I was like, oh, I see what's coming. But, yeah, I wish her living dress in this was a little better. It felt just a little cheap to me. And I just. This is my own personal thing. I am not. I cannot. With the Disney drag. Like, and I'm loving. I love that. I love who wrote the song. And, like, I know this is very important for our community. Yada, yada, yada. I cannot with the drag is for us kids. Like, it just. It drives me a little crazy. But my own feelings aside, I think Nina did a good job. And I love that she's doing this number with a message and she's getting something across to everyone. And it's. It's all good. I. It's just my own personal taste. I cannot with the ABC Story Hour Drag. It's just not for me.
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Trinity The Tuck
I hated this from beginning to the end. I hated it. I hated it. I agree with you. I thought the living dress looked cheap compared to her original one. We've seen it. We've. We've seen her do it. We've seen Sia do it. We don't need to see it again. Think of something else. You. You have at your beck and call. Disney. You know, everybody. With Disney, you get called for everything to do with Disney stuff. You could have contacted somebody that is in charge of pyrotechnics or technical stuff with Disney to help you with that. And I just thought this was cheesy. I get the message. But I. I just didn't like it. I didn't like it from beginning to the end. I thought it was awful. I thought this was the worst one of the night. Probably one of the worst talent shows I've ever seen. I. I just didn't like it. And. And that's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it. The.
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Bob The Drag Queen
One of the wheel. One of the worst talents you've seen on the show. Girl, we have. This show has had some horrible talent.
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Trinity The Tuck
Name one.
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Bob The Drag Queen
You. You name.
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Trinity The Tuck
Name one. Name one. Name. Name a horrible talent.
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Bob The Drag Queen
You're not gonna get me, girl. But we.
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Trinity The Tuck
I'll name. I'll name one so on.
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Bob The Drag Queen
I mean, Jasmine Masters. No Shade. Like, that was a horrible talent.
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Trinity The Tuck
Okay, all right. I. I agree with that. I agree with that. You know, you know what talent I enjoyed more that landed somebody in the bottom. Farrah's.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah, that's the thing, you know. All Stars 4. Yes. Farrah Fell. But overall, like, it was a. It was a beautiful. She had this beautiful compact made and she, like, did some really cool things. The fall being Terra's downfall is so ironic in the grand scheme. But, like, that was the one thing other than that Ferris never was cool. And it was creative and it was cute. It was beautiful.
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Trinity The Tuck
Give me one second. Yeah, my air conditioner.
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Bob The Drag Queen
She's actually texting Ferra. And I was like, hey, girl, just so you know, I'm talking about your talent show. Don't get upset, sis. It's really not that big of a deal, okay? I love you so much and I hope that you don't fall anytime soon. And I'm so happy that you live here. Okay?
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Trinity The Tuck
I'm glad that I sent that message to her, but it shows that. Oh, I'm blocked. No, I, I, I do. I, I thought that Farrah's was more entertaining than this. And I don't think Farrah is very entertaining. So that should show you how much I distasted this. And I love Nina. Like, I love Nina. I just don't like this. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. You know, and I, I'm probably going to upset a lot of other people. Like, so all the adults out there, like Disney adults. I don't get the Disney adult thing either. Like, I, I just don't. And, and I grew up a Disney kid, which I grew up watching all the Disney Channel original movies. Like, I was obsessed with Disney. Never, I guess I was never obsessed with cartoon Disney. I was never like a Goofy movie person or the Mickey Mouse a movie person or like Lily. Like, I like, like the basic Disney Channel Disney cartoon things that come out. Like, even as an adult, I'll go and see Brave, whatever the fuck it is. But I'm just, I know people who like go to Disney Channel as adults weekly and they're like going there to go on the rides and to see the characters. I'm like, what? Yes. It's just not for me. It's not.
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Trinity The Tuck
And I, I agree that like drag is for everyone. And this is a. Okay, hold on one second. My air conditioning unit went out yesterday and having to have it parts replaced so that this is the person.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Let me say something. Being an adult and having to fucking tend for your own shit, bitch. I hope one day I make enough money where these, you know, these people that, these grown up people that have these like big houses that have like house managers, like someone to literally manage the day to day of the house. Like if the dishwasher needs to be fixed, like, they handle that. I hope one day I can make money to do that. Because that is the most stressful part part of, of as an adult, y', all, which I did not realize. Getting a fucking house. Oh, my goddamn dishwasher breaks. I can't call someone to take care of it. I can't call a landlord. I am the landlord. I have to call the boss person and be like, hey. And on the phone for 45 minutes. That shit is annoying.
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Trinity The Tuck
I hate being a homeowner. I'm like, I, I hate being a homeowner. I love my, my house. I am literally ready to sell this fucking house. I. First of all, hot here. This air conditioning unit broke last year and so I had To. I had to pay $10,000 to have it replaced last year. And then something's up with it now because it, you know, it's having to go constantly here in Florida year round because it's so hot. And so I'm having to have a part replaced on it this year, which is costing me $500. I just, I hate being a homeowner. I'm just like, oh, my God.
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Bob The Drag Queen
There's always something to fuck. Something always happens. And y', all, we are very. I'm sure Trinity, she'll speak for herself. We are very grateful to be homeowners. And, you know, especially in this economy, it's lovely and I know some people out there struggling, but I'm talking to the girlies out there who are in their 30s and 40s and 50s and y' all who have property and you have to take care of it. It is a lot like you cannot rely on that.
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Trinity The Tuck
We're not married. We don't have like a partner to help pay for things like, hello know, I know we make great money doing what we do. I. But I still, I think people think drag race queens are like millionaires. And yeah, there are some like Trixie and Bianca probably, but I ain't making that much money there. There is lulls in, in bookings throughout the year. So when you have a bunch of bookings at one time, you have to save your money because you are. You're a private contractor. So, you know, on times that you don't have a lot of bookings, you have to save your money. And then when $10,000 here and $5,000 there, you have to. It adds up for your house. And then, you know, and of course, this is all on me because I chose to buy a house and I chose to have 18,000 dogs. You know, of course I know this, but it still doesn't make it any easier. I'm just, I'm just. This is, you know, privilege, privilege. Anyway. Okay, thanks. Done with that. What? I was talking about something earlier.
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Bob The Drag Queen
I was thinking adult Disney drag.
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Trinity The Tuck
Drag is for everyone. But I personally do not like Disney drag either. I am very much from the drag when drag was in a clubs for adult for. And I like adult humor. I like crassness. I like when drag queens do sexual innuendos. I like when we can joke and people not take things so seriously because it's not that serious for me when I'm doing like talking on the mic. I like that kind of drag. I just don't like this. This kind of drag. I Think it's valid. I think it's great for people that want to do that, and there is a place for that. Yeah, I just. It's just not for me. I just didn't enjoy it. This would. This would have been great on Nickelodeon or the Disney Channel, but for Drag Race, I'm just like, girl, you really thought she was gonna win the talent show with this? You thought. You thought, well, let's look at.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Let's talk about. Also, we should go back to the looks. We didn't talk about the looks. I like Jorgeous look. I think Jorgeous looks beautiful and plastiqued. Plastique looks great, too. And everybody making fun of Plastique's tuck. Bitch, that tuck is fly. That tuck is inside of her body in this look. Girl, you can't talk about this tuck. Girl. There ain't no fat pussy here. The pussy is. Is. Is flat.
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Trinity The Tuck
This is tuck approved today. Usually it is not. Usually she is giving Ginormica in the crotch region. But, you know, all drag is valid. I guess there's room for everybody.
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Bob The Drag Queen
And her dance would dress up as ninjas, which I thought was cool.
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah, I. I did enjoy that. And I did. I thought Jorgeous looked great. I thought Angeria looked great. Yeah.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. Let's go on to. Yeah, Gottmik. Let's go on to Roxy Andrews, who is doing another burlesque number because for her All Stars season two, she did a burlesque number for him, and she actually won that one. And I thought, well, you tell me your opinions first. I'll tell you. I'll go. I'll do mine.
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Trinity The Tuck
First of all, she looks absolutely gorgeous. I think that this style performance is very Roxy Andrews. I was bored. The same situation with Nina, where. With the living gown. We've seen it. We've seen this before. I feel like when you're this seasoned and there's so much at stake of winning, like winning a crown, and you have the opportunity to win a crown, and you should be prepared for something that is going to captivate and show a different side of you or show something that you haven't shown to the judges before. And this was so, so close. I get it as an homage, but it's so similar to what she did in her first talent show that it. It's not anything new. It didn't bring me in. It didn't take me there. I thought it was good. It wasn't bad. I just don't. I don't think this was the winning talent.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. So I wrote. I Thought that her original. Original burlesque was actually better than this one. I went back and watched it because I do think it was. Her first one was so good that she ended up winning. I think that because the first one was so good, this one kind of pale in comparison to it. And, like, also, I think her sound was weird. Like, did you hear her sound? Like, she sounded like she was like. She. Like, she recorded this in, like, a. And like, underwater. It was her. Her sound was not very well done. Yeah. And then. Yeah, I think that somebody.
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Trinity The Tuck
If you're gonna do.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah, if you're gonna do, like, reference yourself and do a burlesque number again, then it has to be bigger and better than the first time. The first one was so good that you won. Like, your second one has to be, like, off the top, where you need to be, like, going in to be like, oh, bitch, she one upped herself. You know what I mean?
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah, yeah. And let's go on to Chanel. Well, I thought this was good. If you. Again, if you don't know, on. On season one of Drag Race, first season ever, Chanel walked on, did a Runway where she was juggling. So she's juggling in this one. And I thought it was so good. I wish we got a little more time with the knives, though. I want to see the knives do more, and I wish the cube just brought it out and she put on her chin, like, I wish you to, like, rotated a bit or did some other trick, and then it landed on her chin in some way. But I thought it's a good talent for Chanel, and. But the reveal, I was like, this reveals a little anticlimactic.
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Trinity The Tuck
Anyway, I thought this was fine. I. Again, we've seen it. I don't. I want to be excited. I want to be surprised. Like, if you're going to show something, make it something different than what we've seen before. I just. Or if this is what you're gonna do, juggle something that is interesting lives, like, not like Knives on Fire. Like, it needs to. There needs to be an L, an element that ups the Annie than what we've seen before. We've seen her juggle on the runways several times. We've seen her juggle in the workroom. I just. I am just. I just wanted more. I wanted something bigger. I wanted. Again, it was great. She looked great. She looked beautiful. The Cube thing was like a throwaway because it was literally. It was kind of sloppy, actually. But you're right, the knives was the Most exciting part. And that was literally a split second.
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Bob The Drag Queen
That was so fast. Yeah, yeah. And last but not least, Vanessa Vanjie Mateo, who looks are comic wearing the same shoes I think they are. I think those are vanity shoes. Maybe got me Barredom, I don't know. But yeah, I think Vanessa looked. The hair looked beautiful. She looked beautiful. And I thought this number was extremely well done. It was so well danced and choreographed. She was dancing pretty much the entire time, and she looked like. She looked like a. She looked like a star. She looked like some pop star doing her number with her. With her four amazing backup dancers. And she does a show every night in a different city. For an arena of people, I think Navanji looked amazing. Only thing I didn't like was that frosty pink lip. I was like, manji, what is this frosty pink lip? Ew. But other than that, I thought. And, and the bodysuits, the reveals, I, I like that you try to think of something else to, to up the ante on the number. But I was not impressed by the, by these bodysuit reveals. They weren't, they weren't my favorite thing, but I thought the dancing, the number, and, like, the song were all good. And I thought she looked. She looked amazing.
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Trinity The Tuck
I thought this was good. I did think it was good. I thought this was one of the top numbers of the, of the evening. I think the hair is beautiful. The choreography with the hair is beautiful. To me, again, comparatively, I like George's. They were very similar style. I like George's better than this. I just thought it was more interesting. I thought George's had a better dance.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Really? Do you think George's number was more interesting than Vanjie's number?
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Trinity The Tuck
I, I do, I do.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Oh, I disagree that I, I do.
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Trinity The Tuck
I thought this was fine. It was. It was one of the better ones, for sure. Of the night. But, but I, I, but I liked it. It was fine.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Okay, so who are your top three talents?
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Trinity The Tuck
To me, top three talents are Angeria Slater. She was, to me, the number one. Georgia and Vanessa. Ah.
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Bob The Drag Queen
So I say Angeria, Vanjie, and Plastique. Those are my three.
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Trinity The Tuck
Plastique would be, like, right dead in the middle, so she'd probably be after Vanjie. To me.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Interesting. Okay, let's go on to the runways, shall we? This is your finale eleganza, I think. Okay, we'll talk about them. I think this is one of the most hideous things I have ever seen on Drag Race. Just because you have a lot of feathers doesn't mean you should use a lot of feathers. You're talking about Angeria. Yeah, yeah, sorry. Angeria. I think this shit is fucking hideous. I hate this dress. I hate that fabric. That's the bodice and the top of the thing. I know exactly what the fabric is. Is that, is that thing with those, with all those little shapes on it?
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah, everybody has.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah, everybody has. Her waist is nonexistent. Look at this picture. Her waist looks huge. Like I think this dress is. And she was bragging about I have all these feathers. This dress is fucking ugly. And I hate it so much.
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Trinity The Tuck
I don't mind it. I. Is it fashion forward? No. Is it the most beautiful gown I've ever seen before? No, but I don't hate it. It does. It is, is exactly. Angeria. Angeria is a old school pageant queen through and through. And this is a gown that you would see in a pageant 100. I think her mug is absolutely incredible. I love the hair. I love the earrings. I love the color on her. I don't hate. It's not. I wouldn't wear it, but I don't hate it.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Let's go on to got Mick who's doing a look. Well, she's not inspired by. But she, she, she, she thought of an Alexander. What's that? Was it McQueen? Yeah, McQueen Runway. And she was like, oh, what I would have done in the collection. And I love. I don't know what kind of train is it called? What is this trendy. Probably know it's called like a ruffle train or whatever it is. I think it's a really creative way to do a train on a gown. And you know, Godmik is very punk and leather and, you know, and spikes and shit. And this hair is super cool. I think this gown is, it looks obviously looks very well made. And I think this is a great way to show like her and like her finale eleganza like this. I think this is gorgeous.
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Trinity The Tuck
I love this. I think the, the bottom is probably made with some sort of either horse hair material or horse hair trim on the, the inside with boning to give it that shape, that ripple shape. Absolutely incredible. I love it. I am not a huge fan of the hair. It's fine. Takes to me, it takes away from the bottom. I would have done something else because to me the bottom is so symmetrical and then the hair is kind of asymmetrical. So it kind of throws it off to me. But I think overall it is, it is very cool. The outfit, the gown is absolutely incredible.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah, I think it Looks really, really, really beautiful. Gottmik always nails it with the fashion going on to Jorgeous now,
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Trinity The Tuck
something that
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Bob The Drag Queen
Trinity said all season long. This does not look like a finale Runway. Like, I don't understand why she had these chains in the middle. Like, even if it was just the gloves, the. The bra and the same. The same how she has it now at the bottom. But just take out those gold chains, and I feel like it was so unnecessary. And just on this, like, velvet. This velveteen. And. Yeah, I just. And. And. And I hate that the rose petals are the same going up the entire bottom. Like, it would have been, like, big rose petals at the bottom, and they, like, got smaller as it went up to the waist, that maybe that would have been more interesting. But this. I think Georgia has had way stronger looks this season, and I was not impressed with it. She looks beautiful, and I think this is a fine look. Right, but not for your finale eleganza.
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Trinity The Tuck
No, I agree with you 100%. I feel like Georgia's Runway package this season, for the most part, has been very underwhelming. Luckily, she's very talented and beautiful. I love the look. I. I would wear this in a show. I think this is a gorgeous showpiece. But I agree with you. It's not a finale. I love your idea of, like, doing humongous rose petals that, like, get smaller as it gets up. I love that. I. That's. That would be fierce. It's just not enough. It literally looks like she made this herself, which. There's nothing wrong with that. But this is all stars. We already know George's has traveled the world, so she got a little money. She could have had something else. This is your final moment that's gonna be remembered for the rest of your career. You. You could have put a little bit more effort into it. Sweetie,
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Bob The Drag Queen
this something you would make. Like, you. You look like you can make in a design challenge on the show.
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah, this looks like a design challenge moment. Yeah. Yeah. I. I feel like, first of all, the color looks great on her, and from her decollete up, she looks absolutely beautiful. Her makeup, this hair. I love this hair. The hair is absolutely stunning. I love the look, and she looks beautiful, but not for a finale.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Not finale.
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Let's go into plus seek Tiara looking like some video game superstar summon from Final Fantasy. I think she looks ethereal. This is obviously a cultural reference that even she said, like, her fans of Vietnam are probably dying at this right now. And, yeah, I think that she looks beautiful. But plastique has Looked gorgeous. The entire season. The entire season. Plastique has come out with. Look at the. Look at the look that has impressed and blown everyone away. And this one is no different.
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Trinity The Tuck
This is going to get me in trouble. I don't know the cultural reference, so I can't. Like, that aside, this is me just purely looking. Based off of what I see, this looks like a cosplay costume that you would wear to Comic Con.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah, I can see that for sure.
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Trinity The Tuck
I think it looks the flag. And this is also me comparing Plastique to herself throughout the rest of the season. This is one of her weaker runways. It looks a little cheap, mainly because I absolutely hate satin, and satin, to me, just does not look good on tv. And it just looks cheap. It looks cheap to me. There's a lot going on. It literally looks like an elevated Halloween costume to me. It looks like a cosplay costume. And also, for your finale, I would have loved to have seen her in one of her first runways, one of those gowns. I just feel like the Runway when you're. They're allowing you to change for the lip sync. The Runway moment. This is like a moment to be regal and gorgeous. My personal preference. And, and I know she can do a gown like no other because she's made them. Yeah, I, I preferred her. Both of her. Her sewing challenge looks over this. I, this was just. This was disappointing to me. I, I, I think shoes.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Look at these shoes.
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Trinity The Tuck
I wish now there are. There are elements that I do love about it, and, and, and overall, does it look cool? Yes. Does she look beautiful? Yes. I'm happy for her fans that can see themselves in her because it's a cultural reference, but I don't know the reference, and I'm just purely basing it off of quality of the way that it looks.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. Let's go on to Nina west, who I think this is the most beautiful I have ever seen Nina west look in her life. She looks absolutely divine and stunning. This deep blue, and then it's not sapphire. Whatever. Whatever you call this blue. It looks so delicious on her. Her hair looks so beautiful. The all the proportions are lovely. Her waist looked teeny weeny. Nina west looks absolutely stunning and scrumptious in this look.
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Trinity The Tuck
Something that I noticed that I've done all season with Nina is I have been saying Nina looks great for her, and in hindsight, I wish I wouldn't have done that, because I feel like when you're being judged on a competition, you should be judged fairly based off of what you Bring. And it should be comparative because only one person. Well, I say that only one person can win, but there's going to be a winner. And so you are compared to each other. I think she looks gorgeous. Again, for her, I love the color. I do like the fact that she cinched, to me, the bottom. I hate the bottom of the fabric. I think the bottom.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Okay, is. This is.
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Trinity The Tuck
What is it?
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Bob The Drag Queen
Chiffon.
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Trinity The Tuck
This is organza. It looks like.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Okay, now, what's the difference between organza and chiffon?
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Trinity The Tuck
Chiffon is a lot lighter and really flowy, thinner, more delicate. Organza is. Has a little. And. And it's also. Chiffon is more soft. Organza is a little bit more textured. It has a little bit more weight and structure to it. It doesn't flow as much. I like organza for certain things. In other instances, it looks kind of cheap. So to me, in this picture and the way it looked on camera, it looked wrinkled. It looked cheap. It looked fine. It looked fine. For her, this is great. Comparatively to others, no, even in the
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Bob The Drag Queen
detail, having that little strap that comes from the middle into the thing. I don't know why she would use organza to make that as opposed to using that same velvet to give that, like. And that's such a small detail no one ever probably saw. But I was like, well, why use chiffon? Just use the same velvet so it feels like more structured. And, like.
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Trinity The Tuck
And this might be controversial, but, girl, I actually enjoyed her design challenge. That. That she did well in the red and black.
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Bob The Drag Queen
That was good.
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Trinity The Tuck
I like that more than this.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Interesting. Damn.
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Trinity The Tuck
But she looks great for her. I mean, this is great for her. I, like, I keep saying that because she's just not a fashion icon. She's not known to be a fashion icon. She's a comedy queen. She's, you know, a drag Disney girl. So when I'm saying that, I'm saying it respectfully. She looks great for her, but I'm. But I'm also comparing her to the plastiques and the got Mix. And, like, I am unbiased in my opinion, where if I'm looking at this, if I was judging this in. In a pat, there's a pageant called Miss Gay USA and an evening where they rank the girls, they make you come out individually, do your. Your. Your points of the stage, go backstage, wait for everybody, and then they have you all come out in a row in a line, and then the judges rank you. This is number one. This is number two. All the way to the Last person. And that, to me, is how I judge things. When I'm, when I'm judging things, it should be comparatively, because you're looking for the best. You're, you're not really looking for who did the best for themselves. You're looking for the best overall. Right?
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah.
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Let's go on to Roxxxy Andrews, who's given this gilded in, I want to say, gold. What color is that? It's like a, I guess it is gold. It looks a little orangey on tv, but it is supposed to go. Probably looks a lot like topaz. A lot of topaz. And, you know, this is a fully stoned and. No, sorry, fully beaded gown she's wearing. She has this fringe beading on her, on her arms. And I thought this was good. I feel like, I feel like cuz. And again, we have seen so much of Roxy's elaborate or ridiculous over the top drag. Like, I, I acknowledge that this is probably a very expensive outfit with all these beads and the stone on top of it and the crown and the thing here. Like, I, I acknowledge this probably a very expensive look. I just would wish for something just a little more creative and just something a little different for Oxy, because we know Roxy can do this. We've seen Roxy do this so long. I wanted something a little, a little different for Roxy, something that was something that would be more exciting for maybe, probably her last time on Drag Race.
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Trinity The Tuck
I agree with you. I, I think so. First of all, a little tea. If I'm not mistaken, Roxy won a pageant a couple of years ago called Ms. Glamorous, which is a national pageant he held here in Orlando. I usually actually judge that, but I didn't judge her year because I, it was a conflict of, of schedule. This, I believe, was her evening gown. And I remember seeing her in evening gown and thinking a couple of things. Like you said, it looks expensive, it's beaded, it's beautiful fabric. Overall, does she look beautiful? Yes. One thing with Roxy, certain silhouettes, because she doesn't cinch, she looks a little boxy. And also because she doesn't wear big boobs. Certain looks, she looks flat chested. And to me, this does not give any shape whatsoever to her at all. I, I, that is my biggest qualm with this. If she was cinched and had just a little bit more boob, it would have changed the entire look of this.
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Bob The Drag Queen
I agree. I agree.
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Trinity The Tuck
I think she looks incredible from here up. I love this color on her. I love the crown, I love the red Hair. I love Roxy. And a dark lip. Overall, does she look stunning? Yeah. But I agree with you. I think that she. I would have loved to have seen her in something different for her.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah.
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Trinity The Tuck
Something more elaborate.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah, I would agree with that. Let's go on to Chanel wearing this outfit that I absolutely thought was. Looked insane. I hated the stupid fucking dog. I hated, like, this erte inspired thing with this chain. I think I like the idea of this, but it just looks so cheap, and it does not look good. And I thought this was. I thought this was an insane way to come out for the finale. I was like, what is happening?
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Trinity The Tuck
I loved it. I loved it. I loved the reference. I always, as a kid, would see these statues, the. The little figurines that have the dog and the girl holding the dog. So as soon as she came around the corner, I knew exactly what the reference was. I loved it. There are elements of this that I don't like. I don't like that you can see straight through, and she has no boobs, and it just. It looks. It looks weird underneath. I don't think it looks cheap. I think it. The rhinestone, because it's a thicker rhinestone banding that's been soldered together. It does give. More expensive, and this was definitely expensive because rhinestone banding is not cheap. I. I do like it. I. And I was looking girl. I was like, this is a. Because this kind of design would make the infrastructure very fragile, and I didn't notice any rips or tears in the. The mesh, which can happen very easily with something like this. I liked it. Is it the most incredible one on the Runway? No, but I. I did like it. And especially for. For Chanel, it was. It does show a little bit of a creative side to her. Like, thinking outside of. Let me just do just a pretty dress. There is a concept to it, but to mo. To me, overall, the only one that really stood out is so far is Godmik.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. I mean, just even look like, how. How is gathering and falling at her waist? Like, I don't know. Is she like, what is that? Like, under. Under that in the middle? Like.
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Trinity The Tuck
Well, the design of this is based off of, like. Like a 1920s, 1930s design that would be, like, fitted at the waist. So I don't know how this is held up, because usually that's a elastic or it's, like, rouged at the waist to create that waistline. So I don't know how this is held up in the middle.
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Bob The Drag Queen
And the shoes are all wrong. She should have had on like as like an open toed sandal. Like she just has this clunky, fully stone shoe at the bottom that would, that, that, that makes it look crazy at the bottom.
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Trinity The Tuck
I do, I like it. I do like it. I just, I wish it, I just wish it wasn't. I wish there was boobs. I wish there was something else underneath.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. Under that. If you don't have the body you wear of like you, you create the body under it. Because like, because if we, if we're saying Roxy's giving box and, and bitch, Chanel is doing a triple fold. She looks like she's just a man under there wearing like some, some heavy thing.
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Trinity The Tuck
If Kylie Sonique Love came out in this and she just had a basic bit girl, I would die. Yeah.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah.
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Trinity The Tuck
I think that's, that's my biggest problem with this is, is that is the, the there's no boobs. That's my biggest qualm with it. I'm fine with the elements to it. Is it the, the best one on the Runway? No. But I like it better than half the girls on for their runways.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. Let's go on to Ms. Vanessa Vanjie, the final queen of the evening, wearing this, this purple metallic corset, panty titty and boot thing with her own name embellished Vanjie all over it. And with this blue confetti coat. I think it is. This to me was way too simple for your finale eleganza. I have seen Juvangie look incredibly glamorous even for the press tour they did. Or she had on that black outfit with the black pom poms and poos everywhere or that other coat that she wore, the big skirt. Like, I've seen Vanjie look incredibly high fashion while staying true to her brand, which is this like urban streetwear thing. I thought this was way too, way, way too easy for a finale like look like. And it's coming from the beat. From a bitch that wore my like neo, neo, neo future African look that I wore for mine for my All Star seven step down. But I just think this is like, like, I think she looks like she's going to do just a, a performance number. Like she has her reveal quote on. She's going to do like some type of work me down now kind of number. So I just thought this was way too simple for the finale.
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Trinity The Tuck
Well, your futuristic African look was, was severe and edgy and creative and cool. It is, it was. I loved yours. I could see why that was a finale. This and I And I understand her brand. I get that she stayed true to her brand. This, to me, looks cheap. The. The jacket is falling apart. But I guess she stayed true from the beginning to the end, because her first jacket she walked in with was falling apart. As she's leaving, it's falling apart. I would have loved to have seen what Vanjie did with bringing urban streetwear into a gown.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah, right.
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Trinity The Tuck
Because it has been done. It can be done. I've seen it on red carpets. I've seen you do it. I've seen other girls do urban street wear, and it. And it be elevated to a red carpet kind of style. This, to me, is a lip sync lallaparuza outfit.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah, I'd agree with that.
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Trinity The Tuck
I. I'm. I'm severely underwhelmed with every single Runway except for Gottmik's.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. I think if I had to choose my favorite Runway finale, it would. Gottmik is 1000%. Like, she nailed it. She hit Gottmik slam dunk. The finale. The finale. So then. So if you, like, judge that with her talent, Gottmik gets to me. To me, she gets closer to the top, then. Cause, you know, they do the rankings at the end, and it's crazy how Gottmik and Nina or Gottmik and who was the other? Gottmika and who else? Shit.
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Trinity The Tuck
Gottmika.
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Bob The Drag Queen
She had the second lowest number of stars.
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Trinity The Tuck
Nina.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Oh, yeah. Nina gets. Okay. Oh. So they reveal the voting, and Nina west was voted by the other girls, which was strategy because it did not move the needle pretty much anywhere for Nina. She did not go to the finale, so. Oh, my God. Jacob, can you show. Can you show us who voted for who? They showed it, and I should have recorded it. Can you, like, let us know who voted for who? Yeah, let me look into that. Yeah, that's it. Probably take a little while, but, yeah. So. Oh, sorry. So I should say. So Ru announces that Vanjie and Angie are the. Are the. Are the winners of the challenge. Do you agree with that? No, with Runway and talent and. And talent. Okay, who would you put for the top two, then?
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Trinity The Tuck
Well, because I already told you, I didn't. I don't enjoy this at all. And her talent was fine. Her talent, to me, was third. George, her look for the Runway was way better than this, and I liked her talent better than this, so I would have put George in the top two with Angie for sure.
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Bob The Drag Queen
See, I think Angie's Runway look is so fucking terrible. That brings her down. For me, that's the Only reason I thought Angie's talent was great. But this fucking Runway look.
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Trinity The Tuck
You think you. You think this is better than.
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Bob The Drag Queen
No, I don't think is better than Angie's, but I think Angie's Runway is just so bad.
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Trinity The Tuck
I. The only Runway that I really loved was. Was Gottmix, and I don't think her Runway elevated her above other people because her talent was kind of just in mid. To me, I think talent show is more important than look. But I think if you're combining both, I would say Jorgeous was most consistent, and Angie was most consistent. I thought Angie's dress was fine. I thought George's dress was fine. I thought both of their talent shows were the top two. And if we're looking at who was near them in the talent would be Vanjie in third place. And her look brings her. This is probably the worst look on the Runway.
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Bob The Drag Queen
The worst look on the Runway. You look Chanel saying it right there.
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Trinity The Tuck
Absolutely. My ranking of the runways would be Gottmik.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Huh.
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Trinity The Tuck
Then I would probably say Plastique. Even though I think it looks underwhelming for Plastique, it's still elevated above these other girls. Yeah, I would say. And Georgia's, because I think, overall, it does look beautiful. No, Then I would say Roxy. Then I would say Nina. Then I would say Chanel.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Huh.
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Trinity The Tuck
And then who. Who are my left with Angie and Vanjie? I would say actually, no. Angie would be above Nina, then Nina, then Chanel, and then Vanessa.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Interesting. Yeah. Okay, so RuPaul those. Oh, so I have the vote tallies. Okay. Yeah. So tell us who voted for who.
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Trinity The Tuck
Okay, so they actually didn't show who
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Bob The Drag Queen
some of the queens vote for.
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Trinity The Tuck
For. So we know that Gottmik and Roxy voted for Nina.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Plastique and Nina voted for Roxy. So to Nina. To Roxy. That makes sense. Georgeous voted for Plastique, but we did not see who Angeria, Chanel, and Vanjie voted for. Interesting. Interesting. But there's. If you were like, wow, this is rigged by production, y' all there. No, because the girls would honestly say, like, who voted? Like, who voted for who? And then they would be able to figure it out. So this is not something that production can meddle with. Like. Cause it would come out. The girls would be like, oh, wait, wait, wait. None of us voted for Nina. You know what I mean? So there's no way they could flub that. The voting is real. So those go to the end, and then Nina gets awarded these diamond whatever stars. But it doesn't impact her because she only brings her up to the middle of the pack. And we see that Plastique, who has done objectively, extremely well the entire season, does not. Is not at the top three. And it's.
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Trinity The Tuck
That's shocking to me.
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Bob The Drag Queen
It's very shocking. I would be t. I saw a tweet. Plastique. Plastique has proved that you can do everything right on a season of Drag Race and still not make it to the finale. I was like, girl, to me, the.
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Trinity The Tuck
The strongest three of the season is Angeria, Roxy, and Plastique, the hands down. And then right after them would be Jorgeous.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Jorgeous. Yeah. I would say so, too. I would say so too.
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Trinity The Tuck
That would be the top four to me.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. But Vanjie, she gets up there, girl. Vanjie ends up.
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Trinity The Tuck
Angie is. Is. First of all, I love Angie. I think she's very talented. She's very funny. She's great at what she's great at. She's beautiful. She is a. She is a production favorite. And you know, this. Let's be real. This is a reality show, and shows are always going to push characters that they favor.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah, yeah. And.
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Trinity The Tuck
And we can't be mad about it. I mean, girl, it's a show. You know, It's a show.
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Bob The Drag Queen
What I. What. I think that what they were banking on was this. Was this blocking thing to pay out to. To pay off more. And it didn't because Angie and Roxy got into this, like, back and forth. So, like, the element of the blocking kind of making things a little dramatic was a wash because they got so obsessed with blocking each other like that was.
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Trinity The Tuck
They should have continued that further if they wanted. If they wanted that to have more of an impact on who made it further, they should have continued that all the way to the end.
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Bob The Drag Queen
The blocking thing, I think that.
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Trinity The Tuck
And then award more stars if you want. If you want it to be all over the place and very. Unexpected. You're going to give stars for every single mini challenge. Maxi challenge for the double diamond. And also when. When they get stars, they should be awarded money for their charity every single time. Nina should have been given even more money for her charity for getting double diamond. There should have been something extra given other than two doubling their stars and then. But the thing with that is, though, that makes it the season way more unpredictable for production, and production's never going to do something where they don't have control.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. So the top three of this All Stars 9 are Roxxxy Andrews, Angeria and Vanessa, Vanjie and They lip sync to Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation, which is an incredible song. And. But what I like about this, this is not three girls lip syncing at the same time. What happened was each girl got to perform the number by herself on stage and they put them side by side for us to watch. And I have to tell you, I think this is a way better way than doing. For doing a multiple, like more than two girl lip sync. I like that because then you're not on stage competing for space and you're not putting, you know, it's just less than that and you just get to do that number how you would do it at like a bar without any variables, without anyone doing anything to throw you off. This is like you doing the number and going by the lip sync. I'm sorry, Angeria was not giving this link to. For me, she was doing just the typical drag. Windmill, windmill, windmill, pop. That just didn't fit the song. This is Janet Jackson Rhythm Nation. Like, this is a song talking about racism. Like, this is a song that you can like. There's so many other realms in this song to so many things to bring out in this song to really nail the vibe of Janet. And Angie, to me, was just given a drag number. And you know what, she's a great lip synchronic for a reason. And obviously this is probably some music that Roxy grew up with that you listen to, but Roxxxy, to me, is turning this number out. Like Roxxxy is given. She's not given the Janet Jackson, like, choreo, but she's giving the vibe of Rhythm Nation. I think Vanjie's also doing a really good job lip syncing this as well.
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Trinity The Tuck
I. To go back to what you were saying with liking this being individual, I think for the contestant sake, this is great. I think for the viewer's sake of being able to just purely see someone do a number and it not feel like they're spastic trying to outshine the other girl. It's great to view, but competitively, when you're trying to compare, it makes it easier for them to edit who they want to win.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Because Andrea didn't even look like she wanted to edit. To me. To me.
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Trinity The Tuck
To me. I get what you're saying with the, like, the old, the, like the traditional drag moves. I get that. To me, it was. It was kind of hard to watch because your eye is too, like, going all over the place. I. I do think that Roxy probably outperformed the other two, but I don't think the way that this was edited, like, side by side by side and. And allowed to be three different things. It allows you to focus enough to really pay attention. And I think this is an easy way for them to pick who they want. And again, this is not me on the show. Like, I love Drag Race. I think it's. It's a TV show first. Um, and I'm. I'm super happy with who won. Uh, but I. I do think that this was an easy way for them to pick who they wanted.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Yeah. So that being said, they announced the winner, and the winner is Angeria. And you know what? From the beginning of the season, Andrea has done a very good job of being funny on the season and doing a good job. I mean, I think that in terms of runways, I'm not always in. Aligned with Angeria's aesthetic, but that's. I'm sure she doesn't like all my fucking drag either, so. But I think that Angeria, to me, she was someone who was consistent throughout the entire season, always on herself. And, you know, some people have a problem with her. Well, she just plays the same kind of character and, like, there's nothing wrong with that. Like, Leslie Jones plays herself. Like, when. If you are a comedian, like, you have a shtick that is your own, that makes you different at Stanja, I don't think there's anything wrong with Anguria playing up her country ness and injecting that personality and that sensibility into her comedy, into her acting, whatever it is. So I enjoy it. And I think she did a great job in that. The entire season, branding herself. Like, this is all about branding. Now we know when you. If I go on boop, boop, boop, and I order an Angeria, I know what I'm getting, and I know there's going to be this. So I think she did a job well done. And congratulations on winning All Stars season nine, girl. Welcome to the. Welcome to the club.
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah, I think to me, the whole. The whole season was dominated by Angie Plastique and Roxy. Yeah, I would have been. I would have been fine with any three of them winning. I. I love Vanessa Vanjie, but I don't see how she made the top three. And. But out of the two that were left, which was Angie and. And Roxy, I was happy with either one of them winning for this specific episode I didn't like. I thought Angie and Roxy's dress was comparable for the runways, like that. Neither one was outshined the other with that. Neither one was top tier. Neither one was the worst. Angie won the talent show. And I think Roxy slightly outperformed Angie in the lip sync. And overall, I think their track record was pretty similar. So I, I will say there's, there's two comments. I want to make super happy for Angie. I love Angie. I think she's a great addition to the winner circle. She's so positive, so kind, a different talent, different aesthetic than a lot of the other girls. I also, at the same time, feel really bad for Roxy because they've edged her for so many years. And this, this, it was almost like they, she was the only one to me that had a winner's edit throughout and to not be awarded at the end with that, with, with that being the edit, I can only imagine her disappointment.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Girl, I agreed. I, I, I, I, I, I thought Roxy was going to win this season. I just think she was getting that. That's what it looked like to me. And I, I know she must be so, I mean, again, but she's done so many pages and she, she tweeted something she said or she, she posted. She said, I've lost way more than I've won. And, you know, she's used to this from being in the pageant circuit, but if I was her, I would be so tired because I thought it was. This is her season to win, especially the last couple episodes, especially. And do you see what Detoxed she first, she tweeted and capital letters. Nope. Double letter triple, quadruple O's. Then the next tweet was the itch is gone. Because she had said that she had an itch and she wanted to go back to Drag Race. She said the itch is gone. Playing in my girl's face. Then the last tweet she said also reminded that runways mean garbage because Plastique urinated and defecated over that stage.
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Trinity The Tuck
So I will say this if you don't have. Because I know that Detox used to live in Orlando for a while, and so I know that she's really, really, really good friends with Roxy. And if you don't have, if your friends do not go to bat for you like Detox went to bat for Roxy, they ain't your friend if they, they are not like that on social media. You can't blame Detox for defending her friend, being mad for her friend, because Roxy publicly can't express her, her feelings like that without the fans coming after her. But your friends can. And that is a true friend. I, I'm happy with either. With, with. I'm happy that Angeria won. I would have been happy with Roxy winning also. I thought that Roxy was gonna win, but. But that was. That's just how I viewed it. That's how it seemed with the edit. She got the winner's edit. She did really great. But Angie is just as deserving. She was great. So congrats.
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Bob The Drag Queen
And you know, Plastique, there's always All Stars 17 to try to come back and give us even crazier runways and hopefully make the finale then. But that is a gag.
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah, there's always versus the world or. Or, I mean, there's 15 versus the world. There's always Global All Stars.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Global All Stars with another one of Trinity's arch nemeses, Alyssa Edwards, on there.
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Trinity The Tuck
I'm fine with Alyssa, actually. I text her. She did a show on prime called the Goat. I saw it and she was so good in that I text her when I was watching. I was like, I just want to tell you that I'm so proud of you. You did so good in this. And have we had our moments. I've had my moments with a lot of people, but this is because I'm just unfiltered girl. I mean, sometimes you don't agree with people, and sometimes you're shady, and sometimes they're shady, and sometimes they punch you in the face. And, you know, I have forgiven and moved on. Are we ever going to be best friends? No. But we were never best. But I. I still respect her as an entertainer. I still think her drag. She's one of the most amazing pageant queens ever. Like I said before, she was one of my pageant idols, like when I was doing pageants. Yeah, we don't have beef.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Good. Well, Trinh, this has been honestly such a privilege, a pleasure and a joy to do this with you. We are, I'm telling y', all, Trinity. Trinity and I are going to do a thing. We'll figure it out, but we'll definitely come back and do a twin or something. Especially, like, looking forward to the rest of the tier and the new year, everyone. I want Trinity and I. It will be a dream if Trinity and I can have a regular something together on. On. On. On the Internet. So we will keep on brainstorming about what that is. So keep y' all ears peeled and thank you for taking the time and even doing Watcher with me. I really appreciate it. I love you. I just love you so much. So much.
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Trinity The Tuck
I love you so much. I really have enjoyed this. I enjoyed doing a couple episodes with Bob. I'm glad to find out, Bob, you
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Bob The Drag Queen
don't have to lie about that. Trinity.
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Trinity The Tuck
Do not.
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Bob The Drag Queen
Do not feel the need to lie about that. And no one enjoy. I did.
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Trinity The Tuck
I. I did enjoy with Bob, but, I mean, I. It has been. Honestly, thank you so much for asking me to be part of this, because this. I love Yalls, podcasts, your watcheries, everything. The dynamic that y' all have is just so amazing. And to be part of something that y' all built is my pleasure. And I'm excited to do something with you. I think we should do a review show for porn. For porn. Yeah. We could just, you know, review.
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Bob The Drag Queen
It's just Twitter things 30 seconds long.
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Trinity The Tuck
Yeah, we can start scrolling through Twitter. Although I don't have Twitter anymore. I'm blocked. But, um, you know,
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Bob The Drag Queen
but, y'. All. And thank y' all for watching this season. Uh, this has been so fun. And congratulations again to Angeria Paris, Van Michaels, Dubois Dubri iii, Van Cartier. Congratulations to her for winning. And we'll see you up in the house of. In. In. In the hall of fame, girl.
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Trinity The Tuck
Yes. Congrats, Angie Woo.
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Bob The Drag Queen
All right, y'.
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Trinity The Tuck
All, PE.