Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars S9E5 "Property Queens"

Summary

Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars S9E5 "Property Queens"

Podcast: Sibling Rivalry
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob The Drag Queen
Date: June 13, 2024
Episode Theme:
A sharp, hilarious, and detailed recap and critical breakdown of RuPaul’s Drag Race All Stars Season 9, Episode 5 "Property Queens." The queens take on a real estate commercial challenge, and Monét and Bob (with Trinity as guest) dig into the drama, strategy, and runway, all with their signature wit and candid opinions.

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Main Theme & Purpose

The episode revolves around a recap and deep-dive into "Property Queens," the All Stars S9E5 challenge where the queens must create comedic real-estate commercials. The hosts break down the episode’s key moments, critique the runway ("Day to Night" looks), analyze strategic gameplay, and provide a mix of razor-sharp commentary and Drag Race insider wisdom.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Trinity's Book Collection and Pandemic Hobbies

[00:05–03:26]

• Trinity shares about her massive, antique book collection, amassed during the pandemic for aesthetic rather than reading purposes.
• Notable moment: Trinity owns books from the 1700s and 1800s, many original children’s fables with unique illustrations.
  • "I have like 100 children's fables from like a hundred years ago, like the ones that have like the really cool illustrations." —Trinity, [01:16]

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Behind-the-Scenes on All Stars: Contraband, Hotel Antics, and Season Crossover

[04:11–08:14]

• Monét and Trinity laugh about sneaking in iPads and breaking hotel rules during All Stars filming.
• Reflection on how cast attitudes changed between original and all-winners seasons—more demanding and less willing to follow rules.
  • "All Stars 7. We get back to the hotel, we're like, I need my phone. I need to talk to my manager. I need to call my agent, and I need my time with my phone for the next two hours, please. And I'm not asking. I'm telling you." —Monét, [06:29]

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Episode Drama: Alliance Scandal & Roxxxy’s Gameplay

[08:14–11:34]

• Breakdown of the Angeria vs. Roxxxy snip (block) drama and how alliances are perceived as "personal" on Drag Race.
  • "If you're blocking them because they blocked you, it's personal, and that's personal." —Trinity, [09:06]
• Discussion on why playing "the villain" is trickier in Drag Race than shows like Survivor due to dependence on fan support.

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Reality Show Crossovers: The GOAT, Traitors, and Strategy TV

[11:34–13:17]

• Comparison to other competition reality TV—Monét’s wish to be cast on Traitors, Trinity plugs Alyssa Edwards’ dramatic turn on The GOAT.
  • "I think you would do really well. And you've been wanting to do a strategy game. This is a strategy game, girl." —Trinity, [12:29]
• Monét confirms Bob The Drag Queen is on Traitors.

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RuPaul's Workroom Entrance & Teletubbies Cameo

[13:19–17:45]

• Both hosts dissect RuPaul’s eye-catching red suit and polka dot ascot, with jokes about "clown out of drag" style.
• They go in on the Teletubbies’ appearance, voicing discomfort at the infantilization and weirdness amid adult gay culture.
  • "The Teletubbies make me uncomfortable… for little toddlers and babies, it's some, like, old man in there. I just, I don't know, I just don't like the Teletubbies." —Monét, [14:31]
  • "It's so weird, okay. On Drag Race, you have toddler moments like the Teletubbies. And then you have grown ass hot gay men come out in G strings… it's even, like, confusing to me." —Trinity, [16:13]

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Challenge Overview: Drag Real Estate Commercials

[19:21–22:30]

• RuPaul introduces the queens to their acting challenge—brokers selling "drag property."
  • "It's an acting. It's not scripted acting. What do you want to call this? A commercial acting challenge?" —Monét, [19:21]
• Nostalgia for prior challenges and debate on whether recurring formats need a refresh.

Strategy Talk: Team Pairing

• Angeria, as a reward for getting snipped, gets to choose pairs. Hosts critique her choice for playing fair instead of strategically pairing weaker rivals.
  • "You're also still trying to win it for your charity. So, like, please, like, RuPaul's giving you an advantage, and she just throws the advantage away." —Monét, [22:22]
  • "That's how I would have said it. But then really, it's just shady, and I'm trying to sabotage everyone." —Trinity, [24:39]

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Challenge Prep: Group Dynamics & Comedy Commitment

[24:45–29:38]

• Analysis of team chemistry:
  • Nina and Chanel versus Nina dismissing the importance of looks:
    • "Nina, yes, you will do the writing… Chanel, get the looks together. I think this is good. But Nina doesn't see the value in that. What an idiot." —Monét, [25:17]
  • Plastique’s accent and how Drag Race wants big comedic swings.
    • "If you can make [RuPaul] laugh, it doesn't matter if you're really doing what you're supposed to be doing." —Trinity, [27:12]
    • "Just fucking commit to it, girl. Commit to the bit and it will become funny." —Monét, [27:44]

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Filming & Judges’ Critiques

[29:38–32:19]

• Chanel and Nina’s group: Editing tried to show Chanel as weak, but hosts disagree.
• Vanjie and Angeria: Strong chemistry.
• Mick and Jorgeous: Messy execution, not enough comedy commitment.
  • "Jorgeous always kind of seems to be just so ditzy." —Monét, [30:23]
  • "This is the thing with Jorgeous, she’s too scared to go there... She is an airhead in the best possible way… Should just really lean into that." —Trinity, [30:23]

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Accents & Identities

[32:22–34:43]

• Monét demonstrates her St. Lucian accent from a Miss Gay Caribbean pageant.
  • "When I go back to visit my family or hang out with my family a lot, everyone has the accent, like, it just comes out of me." —Monét, [33:08]

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Florida Girls, Regional Feuds & Alligator Accents

[34:43–37:37]

• Vanjie passionately defends Florida’s southern accents amid bickering castmates.
• Regional reality: Florida has both Latin and very rural, country areas.
  • "Florida does have country accents… The city of Orlando has a very high Latin population… But what Benji is saying, there are pockets. Like, the swamp areas where alligators be. That's country as hell." —Trinity, [35:13]

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Runway Critiques: Day to Night Looks

[37:37–58:28]

RuPaul & Judges:

• Big love for Ru's look.
  • "I think this is the best RuPaul's looked in a while." —Trinity, [37:53]
• Harsher words for Michelle’s "old-lady" styling.

Queens’ Runways (Highlights):

• Nina West:
  • Both hosts unload on her "nun" to "stained glass" to reading dress.
    • "Girl, you have got to get a stylist… This is, like, in bad taste. It's not… fit her right. You could see these ugly ass feather shoes, and it looks like she has a cancerous growth on her hip." —Trinity, [40:31]
• Chanel:
  • Good reveal, stylish, but not the top.
    • "The reveal went flawlessly… The dress is fine… But to me, was one of the strongest day tonight." —Trinity, [45:17]
• Plastique Tiara:
  • Stunning futuristic look, but off-brief for the challenge.
    • "The reveal, that is one of the most futuristic, cool looking costumes I think I've ever seen on Drag Race… But it doesn't fit the narrative of what the Runway is the prompt." —Trinity, [47:18]
• Roxy Andrews:
  • Loved the clouds-to-moon concept, but slight critique for repeating coat shapes.
• Gottmik:
  • Universal acclaim for fashion, concept, and execution.
    • "Gottmik always, always fits the bill. She always nails it. Nails it, nails it." —Trinity, [50:43]
• Jorgeous:
  • Safe, but "looks like a lip sync costume, not runway."
• Angeria:
  • Praised for shape and styling, but daytime look could be stronger.
• Vanjie:
  • Great Pretty Woman reference, loved both looks.

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Challenge Results & Strategy

[58:28–65:52]

• Monet liked Nina & Chanel’s group best for jokes, but Trinity prefers Vanjie & Angeria for chemistry.
• Consensus: Mick & Jorgeous were weakest by far.
• Runway likely tipped the scales in favor of Roxy and Plastique.

Notable Quotes:

• "If RuPaul gives you advice, you take that advice." —Trinity, [63:31]
• "Take his advice. It's his fucking show." —Monét, [64:17]

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Lip Sync, Drama & Blocking

[64:44–67:32]

• The Roxy vs. Plastique lip sync to Nicki Minaj: neither knew all the words—a challenge for anyone.
  • "Why would they put this song as a lip sync song? This song has so many words. It would be hard for anybody unless you already knew the song." —Trinity, [64:44]
• Roxy’s faux indecision about who to block is called out as "a kindergartner" move.
  • "The thing is, she... only wants to block Angeria. She doesn't want to block anyone else." —Trinity, [65:52]
  • "It literally makes absolutely no sense. It's like a kindergartner: 'I can't see anything, my eyes are closed.'" —Monét, [65:22]

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Star Count & Season Prognostics

[68:15–69:52]

• Updated star leaderboard: Roxxxy (3), Plastique (2), Vanjie (2), Gottmik (2), everyone else (1 or zero), Chanel still at zero.
• Speculation: Chanel needs a talent or roast challenge to thrive.

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Looking Ahead

[69:52–End]

• Excitement for next week’s roast challenge and speculation about future drama.
  • "If I was Roxy, I would have blocked Gottmik… To me, the top two of the season so far is Roxy and Gottmik." —Trinity, [69:52]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Monét (on strategy):
  • "Please, like, RuPaul's giving you an advantage, and she just throws the advantage away." [22:22]
• Trinity (on Nina West’s runways):
  • "Is this really gonna be your RuPaul's Drag Race brand that you have the worst outfits out of any queen ever?" [40:31]
• On Teletubbies:
  • "I just… I don't like the Teletubbies. I'm not a fan. I, I hate it. I, I hate this moment. I hate it." —Monét, [15:25]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:05] Trinity’s book collection origin story
• [06:29] All Stars 7 hotel antics and contestant rebellion
• [08:14] Roxxxy vs. Angeria snipping and alliance talk
• [13:19] RuPaul’s workroom entrance & Teletubbies cameo
• [19:21] Challenge announcement ("Property Queens")
• [22:22] Angeria’s strategic pairing (or lack thereof)
• [25:17] Nina vs. Chanel—look vs. comedy group prep
• [27:44] Plastique’s accent, comedy advice for queens
• [30:23] Jorgeous and the perils of not "going there" in comedy
• [33:08] Monét’s St. Lucian accent (from old pageant tape)
• [35:13] Florida accents explained, Vanjie defense
• [37:53] RuPaul’s runway look reviewed
• [40:31] Nina West’s runway criticized
• [47:18] Plastique’s "futuristic cyborg geisha" praised (but off-brief)
• [50:43] Gottmik’s high-fashion runway breakdown
• [64:44] Why Nicki Minaj rap song is unfair lip sync challenge
• [65:22] Lip sync and blocking spectacle—Roxy’s "I can’t see" ploy

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Summary

This episode combines the duo’s signature humor with sharp insights and unfiltered critique. Monét and Trinity (with off-mic input from Bob) dissect every major moment: backstage strategy, challenge decisions, runways, and all the shade and sparkle in between. From RuPaul’s clown couture and Teletubby-gate to which queens know how to play the Drag Race end-game, listeners get a full experience of the episode’s highs, lows, and laugh-out-loud moments. Perfect for fans who want more than a recap—this is expert Drag Race analysis spiked with the riotous energy only Monét, Trinity, and Bob can provide.

Transcript

[A]

A lot of people are really gagged at all of your books. People always come like, oh, my God, Trinity is such a bookworm. She has so many books. Trinity, count the books. Let us know how many books. Trinity. We love books too. Trinity, show us the books. People love these fucking books, girl.

[B]

You know, I've never read not one of Thief. I'm not kidding. I'm not read any of these really. I started collecting books during the pandemic just as a hobby because I had like. My office is like a library, you see. It's got like. Like, I'm like, well, I need to put something on them. And so I started collecting just any kind of book, any kind of book. And then I like, started. There's a website called thrift books.com where you can go and get like brand new books, but they're also sell like used books for like great prices. And then they like collectors books. And so it just started this whole whirlwind of like collecting books. And then I really got into collecting, like really old books. I have like the 1700s, the 1800s.

[A]

Oh, like old. Like that?

[B]

Like old. Yeah. And then I have like, I probably have like 100 children's fables from like a hundred years ago. Like the ones that have like the really cool illustrations.

[A]

Oh, that's cool. Like, like, like Grimm's Fairy, fairy Tale kind of stuff.

[B]

I have some right here.

[A]

Hold on. Word, girl. That's cool.

[B]

So, like, this one is really old. You can see like the.

[A]

Oh, wow, that is cool. That's like some Lord of the Rings book.

[B]

It's called and Heaven. I think it's. It's like a religious something. But let me see if I can find a.

[A]

Okay. Children's books back then. That is thick. Imagine trying to imagine that being a. A bedtime story. That's. That. That's a Harry Potter book.

[B]

That is.

[A]

That is a lot of text to go to sleep too.

[B]

Like a lot of little stories. Like, it's little. Like a. A bunch of little stories, but it has some illustrations. These aren't even like the cool ones. I need to see if I can find a better one. But it has like, this one has like illustrations. But this was not even the coolest one. Let me see what. How old this one is

[A]

not from the 1700s.

[B]

This isn't from the 1700s.

[A]

No, I'm about to say that's. That's pretty.

[B]

This is 1890. But the one. The ones that I have from 1700s there. It's all in French, so I can't read it other than. Okay, I can see the number, but I have a ton. Oh, wait, here. This is it. So this book, it's in plastic because it. This one cost me like 250 for this one.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

And if you look at the binding, it's got like that really cool calligraphy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And this has the really cool like illustrations. It's all like watercolor. And this is all like. It's not like. It's not massive printed.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And it's like all this kind of really cool calligraphy with the art.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I've been collecting. I have one that's by this artist too, that cost me like 500.

[A]

Well, wait for a second. Jacob. Trinity's audio seems. Trinity's mic connect to Jacob. Or is it coming through her mind? Because it seems like it's coming through her computer audio? No, it says it's coming through her yeti. Okay.

[B]

Does it not sound high?

[A]

No, no, no, it's good. Ignore me. It's probably. It sounded like it wasn't, but it was. Anyway. Well, Trinity, we are back for another episode of All Stars season five. And I think in this episode it starts to. Isn't that episode five?

[B]

Oh, you said All Stars.

[A]

Sorry, I meant season nine, episode five. Yeah, you're right. I did say that back.

[B]

I was like, are we skipping around?

[A]

I didn't watch All Stars 5. Like, I saw like bits of. No, no, no, it doesn't. I'm lying. I watch it from my show, but I don't remember much of it. Actually. That was the season with that Shay one.

[B]

Yeah, it was. Shay dominated.

[A]

Yeah. Do you. Did you watch. Did you watch the one. Did you watch, like, okay, ones I did not watch was all. The one that. That was airing while we were filming All Stars 7, which I think was All Stars 7. 6. I don't watch that one at all.

[B]

I'm such a fan. Yeah, I love the show. I'm still such a fan. I watch all of them. There have been like some dud seasons for sure, but I still watch them.

[A]

Yeah, we were doing our season. Like, I was so stressed without, like, it was airing while we were filming All Stars 7. So I just didn't have the. And when we get back to our hotel room, I was not watching anything. I was fucking watching YouTube and just going to sleep because I was so fucking tired from our season.

[B]

From All Stars 4.

[A]

No, All Stars 7. All Stars 6 was airing while we were filming 7.

[B]

I had. I. I snuck phones and stuff in.

[A]

Trinity. Trinity. What Y', all, every episode, Trinity drops a different nugget in these episodes, and she's like, wait, so you're watching all your phone?

[B]

Well, I didn't. I didn't. Okay, first of all, I didn't sneak it in, okay? I had a backpack, and it wasn't a phone. It was an iPad. And so they took my phone when we got, you know, got picked, and I had a backpack, and I had it on my person. And when we got to the hotel, I was surely thinking they were gonna just, you know, take my backpack and, like, when they took my luggage and stuff. So they took me to the room without my luggage, and I still have my backpack, and they never confiscated it, so I just left it in there.

[A]

Word.

[B]

They were searching all the stuff. My backpack was sitting right there. They just. They never went through it. So, you know, I gotta be entertained, sweetie. I did say all the social media, though. I wasn't about to get clocked for being on social media and all that kind of stuff. But, yeah, I was like, tv, I wasn't going to miss my.

[A]

Well, because that. Because we had those stupid. We had, like, the stupid hotel TV that only had Netflix. There was nothing else on it, so you couldn't watch anything, but whatever stupid show was on Netflix. So I was fucking going crazy. But also because it was all winners. Like, we will get back, like, in, like, your first season. You go. You have to be. You, like, obeying the rules. You, like. You, like. They take me your room. All Stars for. You're like, all right, I've done this show before. Like, it's a little more leeway. Like, I need to get my nails done. I need to get a haircut. Like, they take you out All Stars 7. We get back to the hotel, we're like, I need my phone. I need to talk to my manager. I need to call my agent, and I need. I need my time with my phone for the next two hours, please. And I'm not asking. I'm telling you.

[B]

I remember you fully doing full on podcasts.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I need to. I have stuff to do. Sorry about it.

[B]

Yeah, I think Jacob filming music videos in her. Her. Her room. Yeah, I mean, we were all. We were bad. We were really bad. We.

[A]

We were.

[B]

If they ever do another winter season, because we. We're bad.

[A]

Well, also because. But y' all had to realize, like, the young. The oldest PA there was 26, I think, or 25. Raja had just turned 48. So Raja was like, I'm literally old enough to be your mom. Go get me a bottle of wine now. It was like, I'm not asking you. I need a bottle of wine right now. Go get it. Oh, yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And then when we were wanting stuff and they were like, well, we can't do that. I'm like, what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? What are you. I will go downstairs and get it myself. What are you gonna do?

[A]

Literally, right? Oh, my God. All Stars 7 what a time. The episode starts, and Angeria seems. And like, we all figured she was generally upset that Roxy snipped her. And Roxy gives her the excuse. She's like, well, baby, it's an eye for an eye, which I think is fair. Someone blocks you, plunges you, snips you. I think it's fair to block them in return. But I think Roxy keeps on saying, and, baby, I didn't snip you. We snipped you. Okay? It wasn't just I. We did it. She.

[B]

She's.

[A]

Make sure to. That she's incriminating Vanjie as well.

[B]

Well, that's true. I mean, she. It is Vanjie's decision, too. But what. What I found weird is Roxy was like, this is not personal. It's. It's an eye for an eye. I'm like, girl, that is. That's exactly what it is. It's personal.

[A]

If you're.

[B]

If you're getting back to somebody. Like, if you're blocking them because they blocked you, it's personal, and that's personal. It would be like, if I would have blocked Shay, it would have been personal.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. For sure.

[B]

So.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. And then, baby, like, say what it is you. You wanted to block her because she blocked you. Okay.

[A]

Yes, Roxy, make it clear, girl. Make it clear you love to. You love to make it clear.

[B]

I. I know it hurts to be blocked twice, but, girl, you can't be mad at that. You blocked the bitch. She blocked you back.

[A]

Yeah. It is completely fair. And then Chanel recaps the accusations that Mick brought up about her potential alliances. And Roxy, we find out that Roxy was a catalyst for this. For this. For this scandal, honey, because she went to Vanjie and Vanjie, so blah. So it kind of is all coming back to Roxanne. I feel like we're seeing peaks of season five. Roxy coming in. Like, she can try her best to. To fucking put some. To put a wig on it and dress it up. But a little. A little Roxy strategy. Season five is coming in.

[B]

You know what? I'm not mad about it. She's playing the game. You know, she played the game. She's. She's. She's doing what she got to do to be safe. Because if not, you know, she's trying to make alliances.

[A]

Yeah. And which, again, we did. I know, but, like you said. Goodbyjane. Ain't no way. It wasn't nobody. I think the only way. But here's my theory about why that doesn't work for Drag Race and why everyone was scared except for us. Because, like, Drag Race, like, girls are, like, so nervous about how the fans are gonna perceive them when I'm like. But, like. And, like, again, you and I care, but we're not. We're not doing any. Like, we're not, like, intentionally doing, like, malicious or mean things. We're just playing the game. We're playing strategy. Like, there's a difference between being malic and really nasty and shady than just having fun and playing the game, which is what we were doing. So, like, shows like Survivor, people are, like, nasty and mean because they don't rely on fans buying tickets to come see their shows. Like, once the show is done, bitch, they go back to the regular lives and don't give a fuck. I mean, if I block this person, she's not. People aren't gonna buy tickets to my show, which I'm like, if you're mean and nasty, maybe, yes. But we're just having fun, so I'm like, people need to have more fun.

[B]

Yeah. Have you seen the new show that came out on Amazon called Goat the Goat?

[A]

No, I didn't know. I never heard of that.

[B]

It's a new reality show. Alyssa was on it with a bunch of reality stars, and they're competing in a reality competition to figure out who's the greatest of all time reality star. And each. Each week, it's like, challenges, and then each week, the. The cast votes somebody out of the house, and it gets dramatic. It's not even over yet, but there's a lot of episodes. You should go catch it up. And Alyssa. Oh, Alyssa, she did such a great job during. I'm not gonna spoil anything. During a certain episode, she. She was doing. I mean, the challenge is down. She was fierce.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

There's a lot of drama with her on the show. It's fierce. It's so good to watch. She did a great job of what I've seen so far, but I'm not gonna ruin anything. But go watch it. It's good. I think you would do really well. And You've been wanting to do a strategy game. This is a strategy game, girl.

[A]

Well, so people clocked us on a few episodes ago when we were both at Bob and Jacobs, and I was like, Traitors 3 cast. Me and Bob. And then the cast announcement that Bob was on it came out and everyone's like, monet, you need to host. I'm like, yes, Bob is on Traders. And I wasn't going to like, like, it was. I wasn't supposed to say anything, but now it's out the bag. Yes, Bob is on Traders. And. But I would still love to do Traders, whatever the next season is. I would love if they casted the Twinners. I think that would be actually very good TV. Very fun.

[B]

Yes, please.

[A]

Yeah. And so RuPaul comes into the workroom the next day. And this RuPaul outfit is. Looks at. RuPaul wears outfits. I'm like, this is crazy. He's wearing a full on red suit with this, like black and white polka dot 1980s. I mean, like ascot and big thing. And this outfit is just a lot, even for me. And I love RuPaul's outfits.

[B]

You know, she loves a clown outfit, especially out of drag. She be wearing outlandish stuff. Outlandish stuff. You know, then you. You get Bob Roth, Ross Matthews trying to. To do.

[A]

I love your association there, Bob Ross, Ross Matthews. I love that.

[B]

Yeah. It just doesn't work for Ross. It just doesn't work for Ross. I don't.

[A]

That clip of. I'm talking about the outfit on TikTok and then people like Trinity. As soon as Monet started, Trinity was just waiting to.

[B]

Oh, I mean, you typing it up. I was like, girl, we. That ain't even in your fashion. How much. Hey, you to say this.

[A]

He said it. I still like the fans, so they bring the telly. Okay. I'd say this, y'. All. The Teletubbies make me uncomfortable.

[B]

I don't think the same.

[A]

I don't like it. I don't think they're cute, adorable, or fun. I'm like, ew, get it off. Get it away. I don't. I'm not into it.

[B]

This is for, like, toddlers, like babies.

[A]

Yes. It's a weird infantilization of all of it. That's just, like, weird to me. And I'm not a fan of the Teletubbies coming to all the drag stuff. Like, I'm just. I don't like that. I hate. Cause you know what? Cause I know in this, like, costume for little toddlers and babies, it's some, like, old man in there. Just, I just, I don't know. I just don't like the Teletubbies. I'm not a fan. I, I hate it. I, I hate this moment. I hate it.

[B]

I hate it too. I hate the creatures. I never watched them. I mean, that was after my time, I think. But no.

[A]

Yeah. And also, Tinky Winky didn't even have his purse. I'm like, the red purse is, like, iconic. Tinky Winky. What the was the purse?

[B]

You know more than I do. I don't know. I don't know their name. Tinky Winky has a purse. What the hell,

[A]

girl? Because the purple Teletubby is a man and he carries a purse. So the conservatives were outraged about this Teletubby because he was gay. And they were like, the Teletubbies have a gay agenda because this man Teletubby is carrying a purse. It was a whole thing. It was wild. Yeah. But yeah, it just, it's just weird and like, and they don't talk. They just, like, bob it around. And I, I, I'm not a Teletubby fan, y'. All. I'm not a Teletubby fan either.

[B]

I mean, bring in. It's so weird. Okay. On Drag Race, you have toddler, toddler moments like the Teletubbies. And then you have grown ass hot. Gay men come out in G strings. I mean, like, in the same episode. Like, I, it's even, like, confusing to me. I don't know.

[A]

I don't like it. I specifically like to tell this episode. I just never found them to be fun. I never, I didn't watch, like, of course I love things like Smudgebox, squarepants, Avatar, the Last Airbender, and other cartoons like Roly, Poly Olie, Fuck it out of the Box, like, all that stuff. But the Teletubby specifically was always fucking weird. Like, they're like, who, Jacob? Did they even make sounds? I think they were always silent. I don't know. They're just fucking weird. They're fucking weird.

[B]

It's creepy.

[A]

Yeah, it's creepy RuPaul outfit.

[B]

And then the Teletubbies. And then Chanel's confused. That editing, though, was genius. The editing for her, like, mouth gaped open trying to figure out what was happening.

[A]

Yeah. Chanel's reactions are always good. Chanel is always just like, she's always surprised by everything going on, and I'm really into it.

[B]

It's good. It's. Cause Drag Race has evolved so much since her original Season. She's probably like, I can't keep up with this.

[A]

Imagine being on that pilot season that was. I think y'. All. The pilot season was shot in the basement of wow. Where they do. Where they do, like, Trixie and Katya and all these different shows. Like, it was literally shot, like, in, like, a small thing. Like, it was. I cannot imagine what that first season was like. It was. I mean, we've all watched it. It's just so bootleg and broke down, and they didn't know what the show would be. So the show has literally, like, transformed a million times since Chanel was on it. It's kind of wild.

[B]

The vast filter.

[A]

Yeah, it was wild.

[B]

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[A]

Oh. So the RuPaul introduces the challenge, and basically, they're gonna be drag real estate broker. I'm going to be making commercials. It's an acting. It's not scripted acting. What do you want to call this? A commercial acting challenge?

[B]

Basically, it kind of reminds me of the pilot challenge from season nine, where we had to exactly do our own little pilot.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. How do you feel about drag race challenges like this one? Ones that, like, come every season? Like, are you. Are you happy with the set challenges that we get all the time? Or. Or do you want some new shit?

[B]

It depends on what the challenge is. I like this specific one. I like this specific one. I do like the concept of this specific one, but, girl, there are a lot that they need to just move on, sweetie, move on.

[A]

I agree. Like, I feel like it's about to be almost the 20th, the 20th season soon. They're coming up on episode of season 10 of All Stars. Like, they need to, like, do something a little more exciting or change something up to, like, get us more, like, excited about the show again.

[B]

Yeah, I want to see drag queens strapped to that fucking wheel that they spin all the time and another drag queen throwing knives. I mean, at this point, we. We need to raise the stakes. I mean, like.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. Yeah. I forgot to ask you this last time. Did you. Did you like the. The room Design 1 from RC from All Stars 4? No, you didn't. I like that one because it was so. It was the first time that we did it. I liked it.

[B]

I hated it. I thought. I thought the. The materials that they gave us to do looked like. Yalls room looked awful. The Valentina's room looked awful. The only reason why ours looked halfway decent is because Manila designed the whole thing. I mean, literally, it was her. Her that she did that. It wasn't. It wasn't me and Latrice, and literally, Manila won the challenge. Like, that was. She's a designer. That's what she does. So. But no, I didn't like that.

[A]

I liked it. I liked. I liked when. Because we got to, like, leave the set and go to this, like, prop house. Like, walk around, y'. All. When I tell you a huge warehouse that's, like, the length of, like, a city block. And we just got to, like, go and, like, pick stuff. Stuff and chew stuff. And they brought it the next day, and they, like, put it in the river.

[B]

We got to see what happens in, like, movies and TV shows, because prop house, like, that a movie would come, pull from.

[A]

Yeah, that was cool. Yeah. So as a reward for angeria getting snipped, RuPaul lets her choose her partner and pair up the other queens. And she doesn't make any shady pairings. She does them all, like, fairly. I'm like, that's a bad. That's a mistake. I don't understand. Like, I know it's for charity, and we want it for charity, but you're also still trying to win it for your charity. So, like, please, like, RuPaul's giving you an advantage, and she just throws the advantage away.

[B]

I think this was smart for Angeria because she's been snipped twice. And so she's like, okay, I've got to do damage control. I gotta. I gotta. I gotta play nice. So hopefully I won't get picked. You know, people will think, oh, and Jerry did me a favor, so let's not snip her this week. So I can say because she picked a strong person for herself, so she got what she wanted, but also, she just wasn't shady. So I. I could see why she did what she did. Now, would I have done that? Probably not, but yeah, I mean, I could see how she. She did that. She wanted to do damage control. It wasn't anything about, like, oh, I want to be nice. I think she strategically did it so she wouldn't get blocked. Yeah.

[A]

You see, I feel like. But I'm like. But to that point, though, I'm like, people listen to me all the time, bitch. I need to, like, I need to set myself, so I need to set myself up so I'm definitely in the top and putting all. Making sure that all the pairs are strong. I'm like, that gives you less chance of winning. Like, maybe she didn't put plastique and Roxy together. Like, shoot, I'd better chance, like, I don't know, put, like, Roxy and Chanel or, like, Plastique and Chanel and then Roxy and, like, Nina. Like, you know, I feel like those are pairings that could have given her, like, a better chance of winning because she. Her and Angie were good, but because Rocky and plastique were so. Were like. You know what I mean? Like, she. She fucked herself up.

[B]

Oh, 100. I 100% agree with you. That's what I would have done.

[A]

Yeah. For sure. I would have done. Yeah. If I was doing it, I would have put Nina, and I would have put Nina and Plastique. I would have put Chanel. No, I would have put. I'm sorry. I would have put Chanel and Plastique, Nina and Roxxxy, and I would have put Mick. I would have left Mick and jorgeous together, and then I would have been with vanjie, and then I would have used the excuse.

[B]

You know, I paired one strong writer, one strong comedian together with somebody that's maybe not their strength so they could help them. That's how I would have said it.

[A]

Exactly. Ex fucking. Exactly.

[B]

But then really, it's just shady, and I'm trying to sabotage everyone.

[A]

Oh, for sure. And then, so as it rose there together, Nina and Chanel are working together, and Nina is all about. I think this is a strong group because Nina is all about. We need to write down the plan and blah, blah, blah. And she's like, and. But Chanel's focused on the look. I'M like, yeah, Nina, the look is important, too. Like, if y' all have a strong script and good jokes, but y' all look nothing like what you're trying to do. That's going. You're not going to win. So I think that is a good. Like, Nina. Yes. You will do the writing, do all the comedy, do all the jokes. Chanel, get the looks together. I think this is good. But Nina doesn't see the value in that. What an idiot.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, but are we surprised? Like, look at her looks. I mean, she's. She's. She's not a fashion icon. Okay. Is it fashion? I. I think, you know, Nina, she loved the Teletubbies. That's a tell all right there. Okay. I. I think. Yeah, she needed Chanel.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree. I agree. And Plastique is doing. Oh, sorry. They were picking out groups. They're going to, like, pick our groups. And Plastique Plastic. And Roxy wanted the Gator Glades, and Vanjie and Andrea wanted to. Wanted the Gator Glades, and Roxy was like, you know what? I don't want to fight. Like, just pick. And Vanjie is like, well, we won the Gator Glades, and Plastique just concedes because Roxy gave it up. I was like, I wish it was a little more fight. Roxy was just like, whatever, I'll do whatever. And she didn't back up her partner at all. She didn't give Plastique any, like, muscle to get the thing. They just gave it up.

[B]

Well, I think in Roxy's history of this kind of challenge, she's probably thinking to herself, it don't matter which one I get. I'm gonna do awful. Anyway, she's not known to be a comedy queen. Let's, you know, she's. She's a. She's a fashion seamstress that. That does fierce and other challenges. I. I wouldn't say Roxy is known to be comedy queen, so she's probably like, girl, give me whatever.

[A]

Give whatever. Yeah, yeah. And as her and Plastic, like, are working on their thing, Plastic is trying to sell an accent. It does not sound very good, but I will say, just, like, the styling and the hair, just from them, like, practicing that, I'm like, oh, this. Like, they're already selling the fantasy of what they're going for, and it looks cute.

[B]

Yeah. And. And, you know, it's not even about doing accents. The number one thing it for anybody doing Drag race is making RuPaul laugh. That's it. If you can make her laugh. It doesn't matter if you're really doing what you're supposed to be doing.

[A]

And.

[B]

And in the fact that Plastique English is her second language and she's definitely not from the south, and her trying to do a Southern accent just makes it more funny to me because she, like, admitted to it, and it's just. It's hilarious.

[A]

Yeah, girl. For all of you aspiring queens listening to this and you, like, and you might get on next season, fucking commit to it, girl. Just fucking commit to it. Commit to the bit and it will become funny.

[B]

Yeah. And, like, you know, if you're a really pretty girl, like Plastique, you have to be okay with being ugly. You have to be okay with doing the total opposite and making a fool of yourself, because that's what they want. They want you to be, like, dancing clowns.

[A]

Literally.

[B]

That's what they're like.

[A]

So the girl is going to film the commercials, and I think that they try to, like, play this thing off. Something this edit is trying to sell me, is trying to sell us on is that Chanel isn't doing a good job and we're gonna get there later. But I think that. I mean, at the beginning, right? Cause she, like, comes in wrong on the broom and she's facing her own way or whatever, but she ends up, like, doing all these lines. And I think Chanel is doing a good job. And Chanel and Nina look like a strong group. I hate. I mean, they were supposed to be witches or because they're in Salem. But they went really gory. Like, their necks were bleeding, and I didn't understand why. They were, like, ghostly white and have bleeding necks. But I guess it all works for the, like, you know, the macabre of it all. Like, how dark their things are supposed to be. But I don't love that aesthetic.

[B]

I. I thought it was fine. It was neither here nor there for me, but I could see what you mean. They. They looked more like ghouls than witches.

[A]

Right, right, exactly. Exactly. And Vanjie and Angeria, I think they have a good working vibe together. Like, I'm, like, watching them film theirs. I'm having fun. And Vanjie, we're going to get to that later, to this voice she's talking about. But outside of that, I'm like. I'm watching them tape. It is fun to me.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, I'm. I'm living for the group, I think.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Their dynamic is great. They're hitting the points. Exactly. Their little dance that they do, their The. The catchphrases, their personalities go very well together with. With what they're. What they're selling. I'm. I'm buying it. I love it.

[A]

Yeah. Then we see Mick and George's taping theirs, and, you know, I'm very curious to see how I would work with Jorgeous, because I really like Jorgeous. Georgia seems like a good time, and, like, she seems like someone who's, like, willing to, like, go there, but she just always. Just a little ditzy. She's, like, stepping on Mick's lines. Mick is, like, stepping on Georges lines. Carson is over there doing lines. It just seems like a bit of a mess, girl. Jorgeous always kind of seems to be just so ditzy.

[B]

This is the thing with George's is she's too scared to go there. She's too scared to go to the extreme. And I think. I don't think she's necessarily scared to be unpretty, but I think she's just too scared to go to the extreme. And the thing with George's is she is an airhead in. In, like, in the best possible way. Like, that's her personality. She should just really lean into that. Really lean into that. That RuPaul says it all the time. Why are. Don't think. Don't do things that aren't broken. Like, why would you. Why would you fix something that's not broken? Do what you know. Do what you know.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, but also on your season trinity, as soon as it gave you that note, like. Like, because again, because everyone knows you, right? She came in trio as a pageant queen. As soon as they gave you the know that you were funny, you, like, immediately took that around with it and, like, it changed your. Your entire trajectory on the show, like, from. From season nine to even season, all sorts. But, like, as soon as they were like, oh, you were like, I'm funny, bet. And then you just been. Now you're the fashion comedy girl. You know what I mean? Like, you just took that shit and ran.

[B]

Well, I think that with my season, I was too scared at first. I was too scared to go there. And, like, when I finally let go and did it and then got praised for it, I was like, okay, now I see what. Exactly what they're wanting from me. Because when you go in your first time, you're not real, even though you can watch however many seasons you want, but until you experience it, you don't really know until you're there. I realized they just want me to be stupid and country. And that's what I did, and that's what I leaned into. And you bet if I ever do another season, I'll be dipping right back into the even more country characters, because that's what they like, that's what wins. And I'm gonna do it.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

So the girls don't do a country accent.

[A]

Say it again.

[B]

You do a country accent. Let's hear you, girl.

[A]

I don't think I could do a country ass accent. Like, I just can't. It just gets to you. To you. Crazy.

[B]

I think that's great. I think that's great. What is. So you. You are originally from the Caribbean?

[A]

Yeah. Well, I was born here, but when I was like, six months old, I moved to the Caribbean with my family.

[B]

So how long?

[A]

Until I was 10. So when I first came back to America, bitch, I had a thick, very, very thick country accent. I mean, West Indian accent.

[B]

How is that accent?

[A]

Jacob, can you play the audio from that clip?

[B]

So, girl.

[A]

So, okay, so I did this thing called the Miss Gay Caribbean Pageant in New York where they get, like, one representative from each island. Like, 13 different islands from the Caribbean. Jamaica, Trinidad, whatever. So I did a Miss Gay Caribbean pageant in 2014. I win the pageant and, like, it's something. When I go back to visit my family or hang out with my family a lot, everyone has the accent. Like, it just comes out of me. Like, you know, it just like, it's just how it is. Like, I'm sure when you get around, like, your family, you get even more country.

[B]

My sister is twice the country ness that I am. I'm around her. It is you. I. You would probably have a hard time understanding what we're saying.

[A]

It's like, that's so bad. So that's so, so good. So good. Just as sweet as St. Lucia. What does this mean, representing your country? This means every. Everything to me. I love to Lucia. I am Saint Lucia to the core of my heart, to the core of my spirit. I love all my solution family. And I can't wait to celebrate this with my mom.

[B]

Oh, my God. You have a whole year. Oh, my gosh.

[A]

You.

[B]

That don't even sound like you.

[A]

I know, I know. But, like, so, like, when I'm around, my family comes out. But that's. That's like. That's like a St. Lucian accent.

[B]

That's fierce.

[A]

So one day we're just doing the podcast. I didn't even know that video was online. We're doing a podcast and fucking Jacob. Just like Monet. What about this video. He played this fucking video of me, and I was like, oh, my God. I didn't realize. That's like 2014. I didn't realize I even sounded like that. It's crazy anyway.

[B]

That's crazy hearing that and then now hearing you again, like, it sounds like two different people.

[A]

So the girls are painting, and Roxy and Plastique are being a little shady towards Vanjie and Angie saying that they wanted to do the thing. And Vanjie's annoyed, and she starts, like, schooling girls about Florida. She's like, well, actually, Florida has accents, too. And she's like, I'm just confused as to why y' all even talking about the word Florida. She's like. She's like, don't even mention the state of Florida. What do you have to do with the state? Like, Vanjie's getting really annoyed by it.

[B]

I. This is. You're right. This is like old Roxy coming right back out from her original season. It's giving very. What's her name? Formerly known Jeremy, now Fifi. Fifi. It's giving very Fifi. But the thing is, is, like, Roxy's getting a favorable edit. That's the difference is I feel like Roxy's giving the same thing. Fifi was giving in her All Stars, but she's just getting a favorable edit. And two, two, come to the defense of Vanjie. Florida does have country accents. It's the. There's parts of Florida that are very rural and their country. Like, I live in. I live outside of Orlando in a town called Kissimmee, which is, like, where Disney is. And, okay, a neighboring city is called Saint Cloud, which is where I think Vanjie's from. It's super country. It's like, country. And the reason why I think Roxy probably says there's not a lot of country because the city of Orlando has a very high Latin population. So a lot of people here speak Spanish. And so it in pockets. There are a lot of people that don't have a country accent. But. Yeah, but what Benji is saying, there are pockets. Especially, like, what they're playing into, like, the swamp areas where alligators be. That's country as hell.

[A]

Yeah. Like, there was that show on. On mtv. It was like Floribama, where like is like, in, like, that part of Florida, like, in the Gulf area where it gets, like, real swampy in a real country that's.

[B]

That's up close in between Alabama and Florida, like, the way it's like north Florida, there's actually a place Called Flor Bama. That's. It's actually. That's the name of a town. Yeah. And that is super white Republican trailer trash.

[A]

Yeah, girl.

[B]

Like my distant cousins, probably.

[A]

And I don't think because of the

[B]

white trailer trash Republicans.

[A]

Shall we go into the runways? Duel? Let's go. So RuPaul people have some opinions about RuPaul and this hair. I like it. I think it looks. Ruhal looks really cute. I like this hair. I love this dress. I love the color. The pink dress with these flowers. I think RuPaul is great.

[B]

I think this is the best RuPaul's looked in a while. I don't. What are people saying? This is like very, like 70s blown out disco hair. I love it.

[A]

I love RuPaul something he doesn't like. A little different. Like people who are just like the old traditionally, they're like, I don't like this. I. I think it looks very stunning. I love this. So 70s.

[B]

I love it. I love the 3D flowers. Her shape colors look great. She's painted down.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think she looks great. This is the best I think she's looked in a while.

[A]

I think so, too. And Michelle Visage is literally wearing Vanjie's outfit. But go.

[B]

Michelle always is beautiful in the face. She's always beautiful. And I've told you this before. I'm gonna say it again. Some hairstyles I feel make her look like a pop star. And sometimes she looked like an old lady. And right now she looked like an old lady. I do not. I hate white shoes. And this is just my preference.

[A]

I agree. I am not a white shoe, girly. I hate a white shoe.

[B]

I hate a white shoe. And I get it. She has the white gloves, but she

[A]

could have went with a red shoe. She could have wear the red shoe.

[B]

It would have been better. Better. But she looks. If you don't look at the feet, she looks stunned. I mean, with that old lady hair. I like it.

[A]

Yeah. And Alex, Mapa girl, she got her chest out. I didn't.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I didn't realize. What you found out in a tuck that he has children. I don't like work. Do you want children?

[B]

No.

[A]

Ew.

[B]

What do you mean, do I want ch. No. I have two nephews and two nieces. I. And. And I buy. I go there, I buy them the biggest, noisiest gifts, and when I leave, that's fine. You know, I'm good with that. Give, you know, hug them, give them back and leave four dogs. Those are My children.

[A]

Okay, you do have a lot of dogs.

[B]

He's. He's enough of a child, sweetie. I cannot have children. No, no, no.

[A]

Let's go on to these looks. All right, Nina. So the category was day, daytime to evening, or day to night, whatever it is. And Nina West, I don't understand why she would come out on the Runway with this hideous, ugly ass nun outfit on with this ugly habit. It was so hideous. She looks crazy in this first look. She looks unhinged,

[B]

girl. Okay, I am friends with Nina. I love Nina, too. I love Nina. I. I love her. I've known her for years and years and years. And, Nina, if you're listening to this, I love you. I think you're so talented, but, girl, you have got to get a stylist. I mean, like, is it. Is this really gonna be your RuPaul's Drag Race brand that you have the worst outfits out of any queen ever? Like, literally, Like, I get. I love camp, but this is, like, in bad taste. It's not. It doesn't fit her right. You could see these ugly ass feather shoes, and it looks like she has a cancerous growth on her hip. I mean, I just don't like it at all. I don't like it at all. I just. I'm like. And then the reveal. Really, really well.

[A]

Okay, the first reveal, I was like, to quote you on a previous episode before Nina, I was like, oh, okay. This thing, glass thing. Like, I can see like, this is. This is really nice. For Nina, like, the first reveal, then she had the audacity to reveal into this third thing. I was like, oh, my God. I'm offended by all of it.

[B]

They're all. They're all exactly this, Man. No, I. Even the stained glass. The. The stained glass part of the corset is really pretty, but the feathers, it just throws it off to me. And these shoes, girl, I. In the. Why. Why does she have to throw everything in the kitchen sink on her? Like, in the hair. It's got shit. It's like, girl, come on, baby, we're friends. Call me. I could have helped you.

[A]

Yes, girl. As we see Trinity, girl, I'm still thinking about that Roxy Andrews idea, about how she came out just full as Jessica and she sat down with Roger Rabbit. I have been literally, like, now I want to grab. That was such a brilliant idea. Trinity is a wealth of ideas, girl. It's so good.

[B]

And then the last dress. First of all, stop writing ship. Okay? Not everybody read. Okay? Not everybody can read. And we don't Need a.

[A]

A.

[B]

A. A book on your coochie. The fact that the dress is not floor length bothers me. Girls, do not go on this show and have a dress that comes to your ankles. That is the number one. No, it is ugly. All of it is ugly. Ugly.

[A]

And she had the. She had the nerves to be like, I'm taking down. And she was like, I'm taking on an institution that has criminalized and crippled our community. I was like, no, bitch. She's taking on an institution, all right? The institution is fashion.

[B]

The fashion industry, bitch. She's trying to take it down one garment at a time, sweetie.

[A]

You're criminalizing style and taste, girl.

[B]

She's criminalizing us. We have to watch this girl.

[A]

She here for the drag. This outfit makes me think that drag is dangerous, okay?

[B]

Drag is dangerous.

[A]

Drag is a crime.

[B]

If it'll look like this to our eyeballs, sweetie.

[A]

Her face, though, the face, the hair and makeup was beautiful.

[B]

Her. Her makeup is. She looks good for her. For her. Yes, she looks good for her.

[A]

And untuck. They did a close up, and I was like, wow, her face looks really pretty this episode.

[B]

She's. She's definitely gotten much better with her paint. That's not ever. Not really an issue for me at all. Her hair's, you know, hit or miss. This is fine. Her hair's fine. I hate the little. The stuff in it. I really like Nina in black hair, I think.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Young girl.

[A]

She looked cute. She looked pretty.

[B]

But, girl, throw this whole thing away.

[A]

Yeah. The God is. God is a drag queen. Like. Like what? Stop. Like.

[B]

And this may. Makes me an atheist

[A]

queen. This would make her quick.

[B]

Drag girl. God is a drag queen. If God is. If this is a replication of God and drag. I am a non believer. I mean, I'm not anyway, but I'm definitely. Girl, Satan's looking real credible right now.

[A]

Lucy.

[B]

Lucy.

[A]

Let's go on to Chanel. She comes out giving, you know, what's that movie, don't tell mom the babysitter's dead. She looks like the boss in that movie.

[B]

Yes. Okay. I get it. I totally get that.

[A]

Huh? It's giving QED Report. And then I will say Chanel's reveal was pretty seamless. And I like how it revealed this. The reveal dress. I didn't love the red is what you want to call that crinoline or under. Whatever it was. I didn't love that. How do you feel about it?

[B]

I. First of all, I love the outfit before she does the reveal. I love the little it's almost like a. Like a parachute kind of bustle kind of thing, or. I think her makeup and her hair look flawless. I thought the reveal went flawlessly. The dress is fine. To me, I think I'm just comparing it to Nina's, and this is Versace compared to Nina's, so I think it's fine. I think it's fine. Is it. Is it, like, the best dressed on the Runway? No, but. But to me, was one of the strongest day tonight.

[A]

I agree. It was a very strong tradition. Also, her second dress looks like something from RuPaul's mansion. Everything in RuPaul's house is painted black and white and stripes. Chanel looks like she can be on RuPaul's bathroom floor.

[B]

Yeah. I could even see RuPaul wearing something like this because she would wear.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Let's go on to plastique Tiara coming out of her daytime to evening. She comes out as a geisha, and then she becomes like a fucking futuristic cyborg geisha warrior. Beautiful.

[B]

So does she look good? Yes, she looks incredible. I don't get daytime at all in her first one. At all. At all. It is an amazing look. It is an amazing look. It does not give me daytime at all. At all. Yeah, at all. The reveal, that is one of the most futuristic, cool looking costumes I think I've ever seen on Drag Race, the reveal was amazing. She. She's just amazing with fashion. Like, she's just absolutely incredible. But it doesn't. To me, it doesn't fit the narrative of what. What the Runway is the prompt.

[A]

Yeah. I will say also. And again, her. The silver outfit is beyond. The only small thing I would change for the titties. She should have put one of those, like, those, like those silicone cutlets from Amazon to give it. Because. Because plastics, her boob illusion thing is so good. It should have put in those, like, silicone things in there and having, like, her skin. That would have been wow.

[B]

Yeah, I can see that. Because she's already had those kind of things built into some of her other outfits.

[A]

She should. Yeah.

[B]

Because the nude is a little off.

[A]

Yeah. It's like, a little too light.

[B]

Yeah. But I mean, we're nitpicking here because she looks.

[A]

But I agree now that you say it. I do. I will say it is. It is not give. I was so just blown away by the second look. I didn't was thinking about, oh, yeah, it's day to night, like, selling incredible.

[B]

This is just us. I'm just critiquing as if I'm judging, like, you know.

[A]

Yeah, totally, totally. And let's go on to Roxy Andrews, who did her daytime tonight, which she literally went from clouds to the moon and the stars at night. I think this was really, really, really well done.

[B]

I think it looks very well done. I love the concept of the clouds to the night. I think she looks beautiful. The only thing I'm gonna say is this coat is cut exactly like the coat she made for the sewing challenge. It's just not floor length like that one. If you look at this one and you look at the other one, the. The way that it's cut is exactly like that. So I don't like that.

[A]

So you're so. You're. So. You would take points for that?

[B]

I would,

[A]

but Bianca wore the same dress all season.

[B]

I would have deducted. Girl, she would have been off the radar for me for her wardrobe for her season, Honey. But, I mean, this is me nitpicking. Roxy looks amazing.

[A]

She looks amazing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, like, girl, come on. There's very few girls that could do this, and it's reversible. Like, that's impressive. It's impressive.

[A]

So good, right? So, okay, you. Since you. You're obviously a phenomenal seamstress, so you just. So what you do is, when you make the dress, you just line it in what you want the reveal to be, right?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, some fabrics or some fabrics have a. A backside that, when it's reversed, like this gives that contrast. There are some fabrics. So I don't know if she found a fabric that was. That did that already, or if she found two that were similar and just lined it. Either way, it's. It's. It's really impressive.

[A]

Yeah, that's really good. Um, let's go on to Gottmik. I thought that this was. I fucking love this. I loved it. I. If I did not see the things online, like. Cause this Runway was spoiled for me on, like, the. Cause now the whole fucking season is on wild presents plus. And, like, RuPaul's Drag Race, they put all the episodes. I mean, all the runways. So if I did not see this, like, in the things, I would not have seen this coming. I thought this was really well done. I really like this.

[B]

This is the epitome of the Runway one. One thing I love about Gottmik is Gottmik always, always fits the bill.

[A]

She always nails it.

[B]

Nails it, nails it. And it's fashion, and it's fierce. I love that it's baggy. It's like, going to work and then turns around and this is like, I'm taking this off, you know. And what I love, it's a nod too, because they're. There's. You know, there are businessmen out there that are wearing lingerie underneath their Girl,

[A]

I've slept with them. Hello, girl. Yes, 100%. One time I hooked up with this guy. This was back in craigslist days. And, you know, we set up a thing. He's gonna come to my house. He came and I had no idea he was into this. And then he took off his suit and had full on garters and pants. I was like, I guess. I mean, I wanted more of like the business daddy situation. But I guess we're gonna have to do this. Cause you're already at my house. But yes, it's is a very real thing for lots of businessmen out there.

[B]

Goodness. Now I don't know if I can do the whole panty thing.

[A]

Oh, I don't.

[B]

I don't know. I say that, but then I've seen some of these guys in these little m. Like micro skirts, like macho guys and these, and that's kind of hot to me.

[A]

I don't know. It's hot. It's hot. But yeah, I agree. Gottmik always nails the brief. It's like, I. I really wanted to like someone like people like you and her who always get like, I wonder like, what her process is, right? She hears a category. Does she have like a team of friends helping her? Or she just sits down and be like, okay, day to night, like, I'm really curious of what her process was because she. You were right. Every category, it is always spot on every Runway.

[B]

She probably does have a team to help her. But I guarantee you, these ideas definitely came from her because she's just. If you look at what she made for the, the. The sewing challenge, like, she just has an eye, she has a vision. Everything is always thought out. And. And this is. This goes through all of Gottmix challenges too. Like, got Mick to me, is killing the season.

[A]

She's really. She's really doing a good job. She's doing a great job. Yeah. Let's go on to Jorgeous doing her 70s disco daytime lady into Studio 54. I thought this was fine. I didn't think this was like a showstopper. I didn't think it was a dud. I thought this was very middle of the road. Safe, fine. Look, I wish I had a little more body in the second one, but that's just me to Me.

[B]

This is probably the. Okay, first of all, she looks great. This is not a dig at her personally or anything. I. I live for Jorgeous as a performer. I think she's one of the best performers out there. I live for Jorgeous. I'm. I'm giving unbiased opinions here. This, to me, does not give Runway for All Stars. You. I would never have thought that I would never wear this for a Runway.

[A]

I would agree with that.

[B]

This is, first of all, the COVID up because it's white cheapens it. It just looks cheap. The underneath costume is fierce, but it looks like a lip sync costume. It does not. And this has been. I think I said this about her in a previous outfit before. It looks like a lip sync outfit. It doesn't give me Runway. It gives me, you know, girl group or. Yeah, I can see that for the crown. I. I don't get. I don't get. I don't get the Runway. I don't like it. And this ugly ass purse that she had.

[A]

Yeah, the purse. I was like, girl, what?

[B]

What?

[A]

In the filene's basement, I was so confused as to why this purse of this outfit. I was. And also, you could see the reveal under it because it was sliding down.

[B]

Yep. But her makeup and her hair, she looks stunning. Stunning.

[A]

Yeah. I agree. The makeup. Hair is beautiful. It's really beautiful. Let's go on to Angeria doing her daytime tonight. This is something also did not thinking now that you said it does not. The first one does not give me daytime. I'm like, the hair looks like you're going to an evening. Like, nothing about the. Besides the skirt maybe a little bit gives a little daytime. And so that was a miss for me. And I hate the fabric on the bodice. On the top. I do not like that fabric. I think it looks really cheap. But I do like the skirt. Both skirts I like, but I hate that top. I hate it.

[B]

So I will say, first of all, again, beautiful makeup. I love the cut. Angieri is so tall and lanky, and she has such a long neck that this. This asymmetrical cut on her that extends her arm into her neck just makes her look like a giraffe, which looks like a supermodel. I mean, she's stunning. I love the hair. I love the hair. I love the hair. Wrap my. I don't like the appliques on the bodice. I agree with you. I think. I think it looks like an afterthought. My only thing about the daytime look is the feathers. Don't Give me daytime. If. If there was no feathers and this was just solid black or a different fabric, I get daytime. It looks like a. A brunch. I could definitely tell she's like, she's channeling like an. It's an African print, so she looks like a high class African socialite going to like a high end brunch. But I don't like the feathers and I don't like the appliques. I love the flowiness of. You hear my dogs? They're just going ham.

[A]

No, I don't hear them. Okay, that's a good mic. Girl, I don't hear him at all.

[B]

Girl, I hear them. They're loud as hell. They're like, let me out. But I love the flowiness of this skirt. You can tell she's a pageant queen. Like, this is. This is how it is. She models. I like it. It's not my favorite, but I think it's fine.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I don't like the appliques look like they. They don't. They. It looks like an afterthought, but I. I think it's fine. I. I am also comparing it to Jorgeous. I'm comparing it to Nina.

[A]

Nina. Yeah. Let's go on to Ms. Vanessa Vanjie Mateo, who is doing a Pretty Woman callback. And I thought this was beautiful. I thought the first look was gorgeous. Even accessorizing it with the bags from that scene when she's on Rodeo Drive. I think this was very beautiful. I think the reveal went well. I think that was a third one that we didn't see for whatever reason, because you can see some shots and she doesn't. The gown isn't long. It's like more like a cocktail length. So I don't know what happened in the editing that we didn't see that, but I thought that this was a very nice callback to a classic movie and a silhouette that everyone knows. And I really, really. I thought she looked beautiful. The hair was gorgeous. I thought she looked great.

[B]

So I think what we didn't see was that to fit underneath this white dress, she had to fold the. The bottom of the red dress up. And so when she took off the white, she just pulled it down. But this is incredible. This, to me, is one of her best looks she's ever had. I mean, she looks rich. This white outfit, this is how you make white look expensive. I don't like white on the Runway. I just. I just don't. Because white and black both just get lost in the lighting. But with the Way she styled it, the way she's walking, she looks rich, and you get. You get the reference immediately. Plus, I love her in this red hair.

[A]

Yeah, the red hair is beautiful on her. I love that red hair. And those are the runways, so for the groups. Watching the groups back, in my opinion, I thought that Chanel and Nina were my favorite. I thought they had the most jokes backed in there. I thought they vibed really well together. And so I was actually. I liked their real tea. Pretty dead real tea. I liked their video the best. The most.

[B]

So this is another week. I feel like this season is pretty strong, like, as far as, like, them doing great in the challenges. This is another week that I think that this could have went to three of the groups easily. Nina's group, it could have went to Roxy's group. It could have went to Vanjie's group.

[A]

And Mick were just. It was not. It was. It was not good. It just wasn't good.

[B]

Yeah, they were the weakest, and. And it just wasn't good. It also just. It wasn't fun. They were just kind of like. Yeah, it's a mistake that I made on my original season with the news anchor thing. We were just so. It just doesn't translate as fun. Yeah, I think so. It could have easily went to either of those other three groups. To me, my favorite was Vanjie and Angie. I liked their group the best. I just thought that they worked the best together. But I. Roxy and Plastique were also phenomenal, and I do think that Nina and Chanel worked really great together. I feel like why they didn't win is because although Chanel knew all of her lines, she's just not funny. And this was like a comedy challenge, so comedy was solely reliant on Nina.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we cannot forgive Nina's look. I'm sorry, girl.

[A]

I know. I think. I was gonna say, I think that the runways really impacted this one. It's one of them. I feel like the runways really had a lot to do with it, and I think that Nina's Runway was just so bad, and Roxy's was so good. Oh, Vanjie had a really good one too. Okay, let's look at the. Yeah. Vanjie, Roxy, and Plastique both had strong ones. Vanjie, I don't know what made them

[B]

win is that they just had the stronger package. Overall.

[A]

Yeah, I think so.

[B]

Overall.

[A]

Yeah. I think that's why they ended up winning. Yeah. And apparently Mick. This was. Mick is wearing. She's wearing vintage Mugler in Her look fierce.

[B]

Always fierce. On point with the look. Yeah, I think I remember George. Let me look at this really quick. I think I remember George looking good in hers.

[A]

Well. Oh, hers look weird. It looked like it was weird on her. It was like, too.

[B]

Yeah, it was too.

[A]

It was weird.

[B]

Some outfits you need to. You need boobs.

[A]

You need boobs. And the length of this, I don't know. It was like. She wear her mom's clothes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, maybe, maybe, maybe.

[B]

But I think. I think I love this hair on her. She looks.

[A]

Sure. But the. The outfit was.

[B]

Yeah, the outfit is a no go. I think also maybe she should just not have worn the skirt because the. The coat looks like it's like a coat dress.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. I agree. So the winner are. Oh, yeah, they talk about it too. Vanjie, she puts an extra affect on her voice in her season when she did that, the gospel thing, the Mariah Carey challenge, she puts an extra thing in it. But in this, she was putting a weird. Almost like. What's that bitch from Maya? She puts this weird thing. It's fucking weird when she does it. Of challenges.

[B]

But whatever that. During the challenge where they were doing. What is that movie with the teacup?

[A]

Wakanda. Oh, get out, get out.

[B]

The. Remember where she played the dad? She kind of had the same voice then, too. Yeah, yeah, I. I like it. I. I think it's weird. It is weird. And I think you have to have a gimmick. One thing about Vanjie is she's very distinctive. Everything about her is very, very distinctive. There's nobody else from Drag Race that has her voice or her personality. And when you hear a clip, you immediately know who that is. So I like that for her.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. And then on the Runway, George just gets emotional on the Runway because she knows that her team isn't going to win, and she feels like she let Gottmik and Ru down and Rue. To me, I was very shocked by how emotional she got. But Ruru gives her, like, a winning formula. He's like, girl, you need to play butch characters. Like, you're so gay. You do all this and that, playing a really butch character. So from now on until the end of time, if she ever is on Drag Race, she knows what to do to make RuPaul laugh ever.

[B]

Girl, this is the number one thing when you get on drag race. If RuPaul gives you advice, you take that advice. Do exactly what she says. Because if you do exactly what she says, girl, there's no way you're at least not going to be safe like you. You will win. During the Princess Challenge on season nine, I had a different name for Princess Aqua Pussy. It was like, a longer name. And RuPaul said, Cut this down and make this just this name. And girl, I did. And girl, I won.

[A]

Yeah, that was me with the. In All Stars 7, the freaky money thing. He was like, girl, why don't you just do the. And I was, like, noted, Got it, Doing it, and I ended up winning. Girl.

[B]

Girl, Hello.

[A]

Take advice. Take his advice. It's his fucking show. Take his advice. So Roxy and Plastique end up winning, and they lip sync, and a lot of people online are like, girl, did these girls not know any of the words? Because it is a. It's a Nicki Minaj rapping song. And a lot of the rapping, they're. They're facing upstage. They're, like, flipping their hair. They're like, back to the cameras. I'm like,

[B]

I mean, why would they put this song as a lip sync song? This song has so many words. It would be hard for anybody unless you already knew the song. It would be hard because they give you so many songs to learn. This would be a song that would be so hard to learn. Why would they do that to these girls?

[A]

Yeah, I agree it's a little messy,

[B]

but, yeah, neither one of them seems to know the words. I feel like other than that, the performance, both of them did good. I thought Plastique was just a little bit better than Roxy, but I would have given.

[A]

I would have given it to Plastique, too. I would have given it to Plastique instead of Roxy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Roxy wins the lip sync, and she does this bit where she's like, I don't know who's. I'm gonna turn upstage. I have no idea who's where. I'm like, girl, you. What do you mean you don't like? It literally makes absolutely no sense. It's like. It's like a kindergartner be like, I can't see anything. My eyes are closed. Like, it's like, look, girl. Like, you know where people are. I don't understand what she's trying, what fantasies she's trying to sell. Like, we're not idiots.

[B]

Well, girl, the thing is, like, she. She clearly doesn't want to block. She. She clearly only wants to block Angeria. She. She clearly only wants to block injury because she's friends with Gottmik. She's friends with Plastique. She's friends with Vanjie. Yeah. Nina gave her a badge. I don't think Chanel's a threat. So she. She doesn't want to block her. So Vanjie's or Angie's the only one that she wants to block. And. And I find it so hard to believe that when you come out on stage, you see the order that the girls are in you. You know, like, it's not like they're blocked from view. So, like, during the entire critique, you're watching each person get critiqued, and you're the last one, and then you're playing this thing of, oh, I can't see you, so I'm gonna, like, you know, scoot over till it gets to somebo, and then whoever I land on. So maybe she didn't remember, but it just seems unlikely that she did not know that that was injuria. I will say, regardless of if. If she knew or she didn't know, it was good tv, because, girl, yeah. And, girl, if she would have followed through with that, I would have been. Girl, I really wish.

[A]

I wish you would have followed through. She ends up not doing it. I wish she would have followed through.

[B]

I wish then Miss Angie could have gotten furious.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Three, and she didn't. She changed it.

[A]

Yeah, she changes it to Mick. And Roxy starts, like, crying because, like, girl, it's, like, it's all good. Like, it's fine. Like, you don't have to cry. Like, I'm good.

[B]

Gottmik has got a console her after she's been blocked.

[A]

Come on, girl. It's not that deep. Maybe Roxy's really scared of the fans, and the fans are really going to come for her. Y' all be scaring people out there.

[B]

But that's the thing is. Is I can see because Roxy got that from her original season, and so she. That's why she was so reserved during All Stars 2.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's probably why she's. She's strategic on. On what she's doing this season because she's trying not to, you know, do something the fans are gonna hate.

[A]

Yeah. So Gottmik get snipped. She will not be able to. She can win next week, but she won't get a badge. And so now the category. So Roxy has two, Vanjie has two, Gottmik has two, and everyone else still has one. Nope. And Plastique has two now. Plastique, Gottmik, Vanjie, and Roxy have two stars. Everyone knows.

[B]

I thought Roxy had two stars. Three now.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Roxxxy has three. Sorry, Roxxxy. Has three. Plastique, Vanjie and Mick have two. Everyone else besides Chanel has one, and Chanel has zero. Ooh, Chanel is. We're almost halfway through. Chanel ain't win nothing yet, girl. What. What kind of challenge is Chanel gonna thrive in to win?

[B]

I think she would do good in, like, a talent based thing. Cause she's very, you know, she does like, the circus stuff.

[A]

Oh, yeah. A talent show, right.

[B]

I don't know what else she would. Because, girl, she. She's worse than I am in singing. We saw her verse, honey. That was not her challenge either.

[A]

What are some roast next week. Maybe she. Maybe she'll surprise them. Maybe doing, like, you know, acting funny isn't good. Maybe she can write good jokes.

[B]

She is good at memorization, as we saw this challenge. So maybe a roast would be her.

[A]

Yeah. Gig.

[B]

So I guess we'll see. But yeah, I'm. I'm excited to see next episode because there's gonna be drama. And if I was. If I was Roxy, I would have blocked Gottmik. I mean, like, that is. She's doing so good. To me, the top two of the season so far is Roxy and Gottmik.

[A]

And she's good. And she's good in comedy, she's good in fashion. So, like, Gottmik is a good one to block for multiple things that could happen next. So, yeah, I would have blocked Mick. Yeah.

[B]

And even though she didn't block Angeria, you know, that is gonna be some drama.

[A]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[B]

She even, like, landed on her. Oh, yeah.

[A]

The way that she went about it was just a little like, Roxy, come on, girl.

[B]

Yeah, come on.

[A]

All right, y'. All. We will see y'. All. This is all we have for this week's episode. We'll see y' all next week for RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars Season 9, Episode 7 6. The roast. I love a good roast. I hope this is good. And I have a feeling we're going to see a special face next week. I have a feeling. I don't know yet, though.

[B]

Are you on the next episode again? Another. Another appearance?

[A]

I don't know. Trinity. We'll see.

[B]

Oh, this is the. The Monet exchange season, honey.

[A]

Bye, y'. All.

[B]

Bye.