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Trinity the Tuck
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Shannon Maldonado
And let go of whatever you're carrying today.
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Shannon Maldonado
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Shannon Maldonado
Trinity the Tuck. Trinity, I have a question. I never really knew. Why did you change from Trinity Taylor to just the Tuck? Do I. Do I know the answer? I don't think I know the answer to that.
Trinity the Tuck
I don't know. I don't know if we've talked about it. Branding. I think that with Drag Race, they really, really like when you brand yourself. And I feel like Trinity Taylor, even though. So Taylor is my actual last name. My. My real last name.
Shannon Maldonado
Right.
Trinity the Tuck
And I just feel like it's kind of a boring drag name. Trinity Taylor's kind of very run of the mill. So the. The story about how I got the tuck, though, there's a drag queen from Alabama named Genesis, and she's never been on Drag Race. She's fierce. She's a big pageant queen. And after I had been on season nine, but before All Stars, I think while season I was airing, I went and did a booking with her in Birmingham or in a town called Tuscaloosa. That's where like, the. The University of Alabama is. Anyway, so did a show with her and she was like, girl, your tuck is so fierce, I'm gonna start calling you Trinity the Tuck. And I was like, oh, that's actually kind of fierce. And she brought me on stage as Trinity the Tuck. And the tuck just stuck. And I was like, you know what? I'm stealing this.
Shannon Maldonado
The tuck just stuck. Oh, my God, that is the name that is your memoir, Trinity the Tuck, just stuck. Yeah, that's a great name.
Trinity the Tuck
Okay, remember this? The Tuck. Just. I'm gonna steal this idea, too.
Shannon Maldonado
Well, with all these books, but you need to, because your life. I feel like, as a fan of Trinity the Tuck, I know a little bit. A little bit about your life, you know, that we've seen on Drag Race, but, like, your life, there's just so many things about that's going on in your life. Girl.
Trinity the Tuck
I would definitely need somebody to help me, like, figure out how to tell that story. But, like, I don't know. I think we talked about this last week. RuPaul's audiobook is incredible, and I need
Shannon Maldonado
to listen to it.
Trinity the Tuck
It's so. It's so good. And the way that she interweaves all the stories throughout the entire book, it's like all these different stories intertwine, and somehow she's figured out how to. To tell these stories, and it makes sense, and it's a full story, and it's like true events. I don't. I don't know that I would. It. My thought process seems like it would just be like random, random, random, random story and not be able to tie it together. So I definitely need somebody. Plus, you know, I do have. I was about to say alopecia, but that's not the word. Dyslexia.
Shannon Maldonado
So.
Trinity the Tuck
Girl trying to try to type up a story about me, I'll get two words in and get confused and get a headache and quit.
Shannon Maldonado
Well, you know. Yeah. So when I. So I. My current Wonder Woman show, life be life in. I went on this journey of, like, writing out all these stories and, like, all these things. And, like, if anyone has ever seen the show, once you've seen the show, it's like, such a small part of even just a little bit I wrote out. I was like, oh, my God. I guess a lot of shit has happened to me. I never look at it like that. And I was like, oh, shit. I have gone through a lot things in my life. I need to write a book someday, and I will. I will.
Trinity the Tuck
You could write a book. You're very intelligent. You're very smart, and your life, like, just the little bits that I know you've lived in some incredibly different places.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah. Yeah.
Trinity the Tuck
So it sounds like it would be a really cool book. I would. I would definitely read it. Well, audio, listen. I would buy the book and collect it, because I did buy. I did buy RuPaul's book. It is on the shelf. I just never opened it and listen to it through the audio.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah. What I do is I will buy the audio. Like Mariah Carey. People are probably sick of me talking about this, but Mariah Carey's book, if you want a good audiobook to listen to, her book is so fucking good. Trinity and her life is so good.
Trinity the Tuck
Does she read it herself?
Shannon Maldonado
Yes, she reads it. And it's had these moments where she gets really vulnerable and you hear her, like, welling up with tears and crying and she's singing in it like, it's such a good audiobook. So I bought it. I was reading it and listening to it at the same time. You know what I mean? So it's kind of like someone's reading the story to me and I was reading as well. It was really fun.
Trinity the Tuck
I'm gonna do that. That's the next one.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah.
Trinity the Tuck
All you people out there, if you have good audiobooks that are just really, really good. I really do like biographies. So if there's some really good ones, some suggestions, I would love to know more.
Shannon Maldonado
I started listening to Jada Pinkett's when everyone talking about it was good, and I was like, I kind of faded off.
Trinity the Tuck
Family has so much drama. Girl, I don't. I don't know that that family. Ooh, girl, I.
Shannon Maldonado
Girl, I.
Trinity the Tuck
That is some crazy. No wonder the kids are so ecentric.
Shannon Maldonado
I'll just say, E. They do have some eccentric ass kids. That video of. Of just not Justin Bieber. Well, yes, but Jada, the son, like, grabbing Justin Bieber from the back and like squeezing him in like this very romantic way.
Trinity the Tuck
They give that. They give like the. The son having sex with the mom with the. With Justin Bieber and Diddy and Will Smith watching, you know, from the side with the. The, you know, the dog and a cow. I don't know, it gives me.
Shannon Maldonado
But Will Smith came and knocked on my door today. I would suck him dry.
Trinity the Tuck
Oh, girl, the whole family, they're. Every single one of them are hot.
Shannon Maldonado
I know. Even Jada.
Trinity the Tuck
Oh, yeah. Jada, her son, their son's. He's. He's cute. He's kind of. He's kind of frail looking, but he's cute.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah, he's very skinny. Very skinny. Yeah. I don't know if I could do all that, but yeah, it's always the skinny ones.
Trinity the Tuck
Always skinny ones, honey. But Will Smith, he looked like he can put it down and write.
Shannon Maldonado
Somebody who did put it down is Ross. Roxy Andrews. In this last episode. Roxy has won again. And she's walking in the top of this episode, very emotional. I get so emotional, baby, every time. Is that. No, that's. That's not you. That's. Yeah, that's Shea.
Trinity the Tuck
No, no. Yes. Yes. That's the. The rose petals. Yeah.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah.
Trinity the Tuck
Mine was so emotional. By Whitney Houston.
Shannon Maldonado
Houston. No. Yeah.
Trinity the Tuck
With. With Mo. Wait.
Shannon Maldonado
Oh, no.
Trinity the Tuck
Mariah Carey.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah. Mariah Carey. Emotions.
Trinity the Tuck
Emotions.
Shannon Maldonado
Girl. Yeah.
Trinity the Tuck
All those words confused me. I don't have any anymore. I had those removed years ago.
Shannon Maldonado
So Anderson and then got mixed. It mixes. She says. She says, Roxy, the status front run I've ever seen. And I guess it does take a toll on you, but just seems like a lot of emotion for winning and, like, it just seems like a lot of production.
Trinity the Tuck
Let me tell you what I am now. I'm invested. This. This season three episodes ago, I'm like, girl, I'm bored. Other than these looks, I am bored to tears. And then, like, all of a sudden, it did a flip. She did a back handspring double tuck into a roll.
Shannon Maldonado
No.
Trinity the Tuck
And now I'm like, I'm invested. This is like. There's drama and, like, there's microaggress, too. Like, when. When Gottmik is saying that about Roxy, she's pissed that she got the snip, snip, snip.
Shannon Maldonado
Oh, yeah, she's mad as.
Trinity the Tuck
Girl. She's mad. And. And. And it's just. It's so good. It's juicy. I'm like, oh, what's gonna happen?
Podcast Host
It is.
Shannon Maldonado
It is. And Godmik is, like, pressing rock. Roxy about it, she was like, girl, you knew. And Roxy is maintained. She's like, no, I didn't. She was like. When y' all walked in, I was like this. I didn't see anyone come in.
Trinity the Tuck
And then.
Shannon Maldonado
So she. She swears.
Trinity the Tuck
She.
Shannon Maldonado
But Roxy's not a liar, though, so, like, maybe she didn't know.
Trinity the Tuck
I. I don't know. I. I mean, we've. You and I have both done this three times. Roxy has done this three times. I mean, it's hard not to. When you come out, you know where the girls are, you know, because we're in the same lineup that we did the runways, so you kind of stays the same. Yeah, they. So for hours, you are. You're kind of knowing because, girl, we stand there lined up in that same order backstage for hours, for, like.
Shannon Maldonado
How long would you say critiques take? Critiques are about. They spend, like, about five, 10 to 15 minutes per person.
Trinity the Tuck
I would say a good three hours doing the Runway and critiques. Don't you think?
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah. For sure. Runway critiques is definitely about three hours altogether. So you kind of, even if you forgot, you have a general sense of where everyone is. So to walk there, I don't know.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah, this is my real hair.
Podcast Host
I'm not.
Trinity the Tuck
Yes, girl. Yes.
Shannon Maldonado
I, she, she, you know, I don't,
Trinity the Tuck
I don't know, girl. I, it just, it's, it's mind bl boggling. If she did not know. It's like, come on, girl, you know, maybe you should read a book, because I, I'm not buying it. I'm not. I, I, she's. She. Roxy gives me smart, girl. And anybody that is of any kind of intelligence would know where everybody is in the lineup, roughly.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah.
Trinity the Tuck
But yeah, if she didn't know, I mean, girl, it made good tv.
Shannon Maldonado
It sure did. Now if Georgia said she didn't know, I'm like, well, yeah, because she, but she's probably high. She's probably still here. But she can remember.
Trinity the Tuck
She don't know where she's at right now.
Shannon Maldonado
Exactly. Girl, you're sitting at home. Jorgeous. You're at home right now watching this. Yeah, exactly. And then we get like a kind of a tally of what's going on. Roxy has the most. She has three. And we're on episode five. Episode five, six. And Chanel still has zero. She has not won anything or even been close to. It's not like she was like, it's not like there's no challenge I've seen Chanel do yet. We were like, oh, it could have been Chanel. She hasn't even been close to winning. I'm like, woof.
Trinity the Tuck
Nope. It looks like Chanel, in order to make any kind of money for her charity, she's going to have to take more money out of women's purses at brunches. This is my real hair.
Shannon Maldonado
Okay. Can I tell you when that fucking story. I was very invested in this, and I don't really know all of the drag drama, but I remember all the posts about this and how they were. It became this, like, whole thing about. And then, like, allegedly they were like, going to, like, the woman was like, was going to press charges against Chanel. It all died away, so I'm assuming it all just went away. But I remember that story. It was juicy, bitch.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah. You know, this is the thing. Like, it's a drag show and this is why, you know, I think Chanel didn't. First of all, Chanel did not mean any harm with that. I'm sure. But this is, this is that that day Chanel learned a valuable lesson. Drag and the way drag queens conduct themselves in shows has changed things. We. Things. Things that were acceptable five years ago is not acceptable now. I'm. Girl, there's stuff that I've done in my shows before that I could never do now because it's just. It's just not acceptable. And, you know, we learn, we move forward. And she. Hopefully, she learned. And I, I. She's a smart woman. I'm sure she has. And she will never do that again. She'll probably never do a lot of things again. And drag queens that are listening out there, stop putting your hands down men's pants. Don't grab women's boobs. You know, there's. There's a lot of things that used to be acceptable that are not acceptable now. Just don't do it, don't do it, don't do it.
Shannon Maldonado
Speak on that shit every time. Even at the beginning of season 16, there was this whole thing about how Plane Jane had whatever, and it's like. Like Trinity, to Trinity's point. There's so many things that I used to do back in the day at my shows I would never do today because it's just the. The climate has changed, and we've just become smarter about how we conduct ourselves and other people's privacy and how they feel about their bodies and how we should conduct ourselves. Like, I used to do a bit at my show back when I was before Drag Race, when, like, someone would hand me a thing and I was. I would sit there, I'd be like, no more. And they'd open their purse, and I look in their purse, and I would take something out. You know what I mean? So, like, that's something. I have engaged in that before. I would never, ever do anything like that ever again. You know what I mean?
Trinity the Tuck
I mean, I've done way worse. I used to not fully sit on people's faces, but, like, you know, pull them on stage, make them lay down, hover over them a little just to get a laugh. You know, I used to. For Christmas shows, I would do where are you Christmas? As a blind person. You can't do that anymore. I used to have a friend, her name's Doraine. She used to do I want to dance with somebody in a wheelchair. And there's just a lot of. The climate has changed. You know, people. Even people that. That might be about would have used to have laughed. Now, the climate change, we just. We just can't do stuff like that anymore. And that's okay, you know? Things change, you know, we got to adapt with the times.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah, public. Public consciousness change. Oh my God.
Trinity the Tuck
That right there. Nina, Nina, Nina. Grabbing somebody and licking their feet, but with socks on. Oh, girl. And you see this picture and she got another. Another dress with riding on it. So this must be her shtick, honey.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah. Okay. You just have to think how fucking dirty feet are. Number one. People just. People be walking outside barefoot, walking on weird places. Dogs have shit. And then you just gonna take some sweaty dudes feet from a club and having to put it in your. I would never.
Trinity the Tuck
You know why? I. There is lots of people that are into feet. And you know what? I am not. I'm. I am not king shaming. Yeah, I'm not shaming you. You. You do that. But that is not for me. I, I see. But see, I. We. You and I are even different. You like a little, you know, like natural scent, clean trinity.
Shannon Maldonado
Want them straight out the shower.
Trinity the Tuck
Straight out the shower. Soap and all. Oh, yeah. Yes. I want you to smell, taste, look like dial soap. Honey, I don't, I don't want no kind of grit, nothing. Honey, I. I will be sucking dick with the rubber gloves on.
Shannon Maldonado
Okay, I like. Okay, I like clean guys too. But I'm saying like if you were at work all day, you can. And again, if you like, if you're at work all day and you were like working outside in the summer, maybe not. But if you like have a desk job, you're at work all day and you come straight off of work against
Trinity the Tuck
those thighs in those jeans or. No, ma'. Am. No ma'.
Podcast Host
Am.
Trinity the Tuck
You know, they be getting stressed out at job. At the desk too. Not making their goals, bitch sweating everywhere. Uh, girl, no ma'. Am. And you know, in the morning, at six o' clock in the morning, trying to leave to go to your work job, you ain't scrubbing there appropriately.
Shannon Maldonado
Well, I. I just got this one guy, he's from Queens. I'm not gonna say the name just in case he. Because he is gay. See my hair. But he was really. I didn't, I didn't know this at the time. I thought it was a regular hookup. I was going to. I get in the thing, I go to his house and you know, we're kissing, whatever, and I go to suck his dick and I pull his foreskin back. So much dick cheese. He had so much smack mouth. But he was, he was into that. He wanted like, I guess he had. He didn't express that with me so I could tell him that I'M not into that. But he was into, like, watching someone suck his dick with like. And like, sorry, trigger warning, I guess a tmi.
Trinity the Tuck
But.
Shannon Maldonado
And I was like, no, I'm sorry, I can't.
Trinity the Tuck
Girl, my name is not ratatouille, bitch. I am not looking to experience a charcuterie board when I come over to suck your dick, bitch. Okay, I know, ma'.
Shannon Maldonado
Am.
Trinity the Tuck
I do not need a slice of cheddar with your salami. Okay, bitch.
Shannon Maldonado
And it was so much. And apparently, you know, and then I was like, yay. So then. And I expressed like, my not into that. And he went to shower or whatever. We ended up hooking up. And I, we, you know, because he showered. And afterwards. And afterwards, the talking, he's like, yeah, it'd been like, I, I, I. He's like, I've been collecting it for a week. And I was like, bitch, you got
Trinity the Tuck
a side of Ritz crackers with that? No, no.
Shannon Maldonado
And I was gagged. But yeah. How did we get on dick cheese anyways?
Trinity the Tuck
Oh, we were talking about Nina.
Shannon Maldonado
Oh, yeah, you're right. A tui jerk Rudy stuff. That was really funny. And then so they do the mini challenge, and the winner of this mini challenge gets a badge, which we didn't have that in All Stars 7. No mini challenge winners got an extra badge in our season.
Trinity the Tuck
You know what? I think this is fair. This is how they should have done it from the beginning, because then everybody could have gotten badges by now, and a lot of them. And my. My suggestion would have been to introduce the stealing, where you can steal a badge, you can't keep it for yourself. You have to give it to somebody else. So then you start. That starts drama with a bunch of different people, and that can calibrate different outcomes.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah, I think Drag Race needs to. If they're going to keep on doing badges, like, for legendary legend stars or whatever, they need to find out more ways for, like, stealing and taking. Like, think that would amp up the drama and make the sure more fun for us, Especially when the stakes are so low, when no one's going home. Yeah. Stealing and getting badges is a way to really give us more payoff.
Trinity the Tuck
And the thing too, with this is with giving those away, you can kind of say something like, Roxy, who has the most stars this far in and somebody like Chanel, who has none. You can kind of pad it where, okay, it looks like Roxy's definitely going to go to the top four. Maybe not, but it looks like that. So, girl, just start giving her all those stars that way. I mean, she's automatically going to go anyway. So give her all those stars and that put. That puts less stars out there to give to other people to catch up.
Shannon Maldonado
That's an interesting strategy. Okay, I see. I see what you're saying, but like, what if Roxy's just having a strong start and she's not going to make it to the top four? Now you're not. Now you're sending her there. She wasn't going to get there herself.
Trinity the Tuck
Well, then, you know the fans will get mad at her for making the top four again. So.
Shannon Maldonado
I love this minigame. They did it last season as well. It's like voting for who amongst you, whatever, Whoever has the small votes. That's the thing. I love these. And the one that's really stuck out is the Anguria one. Everyone calls her delusional and we find out a little bit later. But I was like, that's totally out of left field. I mean, I don't know Angeria, but even in watching the season, she doesn't seem delusional. She seems like she's pretty grounded. So that felt a little off.
Trinity the Tuck
I don't. I'm not like super close to Angeria, but I do know her. We have like hung out some. I don't get delusional at all. This was. This was kind of strange for me. I think Chanel would have been a great choice for delusion. Not, maybe not so much this season, but in seasons past. Maybe Jorgeous just because she's so high all the time. And maybe Nina with these damn runways.
Shannon Maldonado
But
Trinity the Tuck
injurion, I don't get delusion at all.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah. Yeah, me either. So Jorgeous wins this challenge and so she gets the extra star and as a bonus gets to choose the lineup. And she shades Nina by putting her last girl, which I think is strong. But Nina brings up a point. She's like, yeah, I'm funny. She's like, but I'm not like this type of funny. So she's like, I think she wasted her thing. And Nina, we'll talk about her set later. But what do you. What do you think about that strategy putting Nina lass?
Trinity the Tuck
This. This is probably how I would have done it too. I would have done. I would have put Chanel first because she is strong as a host and I would put Nina last. I think that was kind of a cop out for Nina because Nina, if Nina could put dirty ass feet in her mouth, she ain't a nice girl. She's a dirt. There's something nitty gritty underneath and she, because of her brand, doesn't want to reveal that. She is a very smart person. And I think Nina is calculated. Not in a bad way, but she's very conscious of her brand. And, girl, if you want to win this episode, you got to just get with it, girl. And if you ain't. There is no. Okay. There is no. And we'll talk about this more later. There is no excuse for anybody these days to have bad jokes. Maybe the delivery won't be good because you're just not good at that. But bad jokes, you can have, like, everybody. Everybody takes. And if you don't, it's. It's just a mistake for you. Get it gets writers before you go on the show. You may not know who's you're roasting, but you can get generic jokes and then, you know, alter them there. So if Nina.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah.
Trinity the Tuck
Is scared about that, she should have prepared. I mean, girl.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah.
Trinity the Tuck
I don't. I. I think maybe she hasn't done a roast season, but, you know, I've done, like, three of those roast tours, so.
Shannon Maldonado
Every season. Every season of Drag Race, you had to do a roast on Drag Race, didn't you?
Trinity the Tuck
Girl, have the jokes ready. When I went On All Star 7, I took the roast jokes that I toured with before there, and then whatever I could calibrate to the girls is what I did.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah. Yeah. Can I just say, I mean, I don't know. I don't think they'll put me on it, but they don't. Also, they don't own roast tours, but they should bring back the rose. I would love to do another roast, a touring roast that, before my untimely departure. That was such a fun. It's so fun just getting up there.
Trinity the Tuck
Another reason why they haven't in a while. They did one maybe a year and a half, two years ago now in the uk I was part of that one. It was great. They haven't done it in the US because of the climate of people being.
Shannon Maldonado
Oh, really?
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah. People being very sensitive, and they want the drag queens to be able to be drag queens. And, you know, with a roast, you're. You're especially not on tv. You go eat in even more. And they are waiting, I think, for things to kind of even out where people can.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah.
Trinity the Tuck
Go. And.
Shannon Maldonado
And, girl, at a roast, everyone is consenting to be at the Rose. If you're on stage, you're consent. Now, if a queen gets rogue and start calling you a Susie sitting out there, you dumb, fat, bald, stupid, black bitch, that's One thing. But if they're saying it about another girl on stage, we have all consented to be part of that, so it's part of the thing. So, yeah, I guess. Yeah, I understand why they would be nervous to do it, but everyone needs to, you know, if you want to be a part of the roast. And that's part of it.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Shannon Maldonado
Anyway, so, yeah, I guess putting Chanel first is a good thing, but, like, why would you. Why would she want to benefit Chanel? But I guess anywhere, if she's comfortable in hosting, she would be. It'll be a good place for her to go. But is it shady? Because then George goes after her. Why would you. If you know that Chanel is going to do a good job, why would you want to put yourself after her?
Trinity the Tuck
Maybe feeling very confident in herself. She seems very confident with, like, her character choice, and then clearly, you could tell, like, she had somebody write her jokes before she got there. So maybe she's feeling very confident with it.
Shannon Maldonado
Clearly. And you better work.
Podcast Host
Clearly.
Trinity the Tuck
And also, you know, Chanel, even if she was to slay and win, she hasn't had a badge yet. So it's like trying to help her put her best foot forward.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah. Trinity, you. You dragged her. You said, clearly she had some help with these.
Trinity the Tuck
No, I mean, I say that with love, because I, I, I've been there. I, you know, girl, after bombing two roasts, I, I got my shit together and had writers before I went.
Shannon Maldonado
So they had the roast coaching with Michelle and what her name. Ruda.
Trinity the Tuck
I don't know who that is. Somebody's grandma.
Shannon Maldonado
Rudabaga girl.
Trinity the Tuck
Somebody's grandma. And we need to look up and see of her. What are those things called? Her obituary is out right now.
Shannon Maldonado
Oh, my God. Rutabaga.
Trinity the Tuck
She's like one frail finger girl.
Shannon Maldonado
Sneeze away, girl, from being under the. Under the cribs.
Trinity the Tuck
Oh, my God.
Shannon Maldonado
So. And in these coaching with Michelle and Ruda, everyone is doing how I think they're gonna do. Like, everyone gets little notes, and I'm like, yeah, no one like. Cause sometimes they do those, and you're like, oh, wow, that person's really funny. But then they ended up bombing it in the thing. But everyone does pretty much how in my mind, I think they're gonna do. Plastique leaves the questions. Roxy has some good ones. Mick is really strong in her thing. So everyone's doing how I think they're going to do.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah, I agree.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah. Plastique is talking about. Now you've done this. You did it in All Stars 4 about, like, she talks about doing. Finding a character to be for the roles. To me, that would stress me out. Cause then now I'm answering the questions in this or doing the jokes in this person's POV where instead of just, like, doing a character, to me, it seems like harder work.
Trinity the Tuck
And I think that is what tripped me up, because on season nine, I did a character, and on All Stars 4, I did a character. And I think that, like, honestly, that is what tripped me up. So on All Stars 7, I did not do a character, and I was just myself. You know, I think some people, like the Vivian on All Star 7 did a character, and it worked good. And even. Even Jinx, I mean, she wouldn't have had to do a character, but she did, like, a witchy kind of character, and her thing kind of flowed that way. Yeah, it kind of works for some people, and I think for some people, it doesn't. For sure.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah, it would not be good for me. I. I hard. I have a hard time keeping a track. All the fucking people bouncing around in my head, all the voices inside here, girl, would be another thing. And they're getting ready. And Jorgeous explains to Angeria why everyone thinks she's delusional, because apparently Angeria always thinks she's going to win, which is fair. Angeria pretty much in every challenge is killing it.
Trinity the Tuck
Killing it.
Shannon Maldonado
So that's not delusional. That's her knowing that. Bitch, I'm fucking turning it out. What the fuck are you talking about?
Trinity the Tuck
I mean, girl, my thought process of, like, because going into the season, before the season started, I was like, okay, Roxy's gonna win hands down. And then now, like, I'm like, girl, Angeria is kind of, like, kind of the most consistent.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah, Angeria is really good. She's consistently funny. She looks good on the Runway. Most times. Yeah.
Trinity the Tuck
Most of the time, runways are good. Yeah.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah. So. But into challenges. There's not a single challenge injury has done bad at.
Trinity the Tuck
None yet.
Shannon Maldonado
I don't.
Trinity the Tuck
No, not. Not that I can think of, like, off the top of my head. She's just naturally funny.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah, she's really.
Trinity the Tuck
And, like, thinking back, you know, there's several. There's several challenges that somebody else could have won, and she was always up there of, like, yeah, could have possibly won.
Shannon Maldonado
I agree. I agree. 100. Let's go on to the.
Trinity the Tuck
The. The.
Shannon Maldonado
The. The roast on the. In this challenge, first of all, RuPaul walks out this. I. I love this dress, and I love this hair.
Trinity the Tuck
This is.
Shannon Maldonado
This is like my. This is my favorite. Before you mentioned your favorite RuPaul silhouette in hair. This is my favorite. I love when RuPaul looks like this. This hair.
Trinity the Tuck
I do. I think she looks great here. This. You know, I've. I've said it a couple of times because she's kind of done like, a loose silhouette kind of like this several times this season with like, dresses that have like a. Almost like a. What are the. A draped kind of aesthetic. This looks good. This gives her shape. She looks cinched. The color is pretty on her. The hair is beautiful. I love it.
Shannon Maldonado
I don't know why Rutabaga is wearing the original thirteen Colonies dress. She's wearing. She's wearing a caftan.
Trinity the Tuck
Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh. I do recognize her now. She is the one who originally sewed the original American flag.
Shannon Maldonado
Betsy. Betsy Devos. I think her name is Betsy Ross. Yeah, Betsy Ross.
Trinity the Tuck
Rudabaga is her drag name, honey.
Shannon Maldonado
I was like, not the original thirteen colony is Betsy. What you. What you.
Trinity the Tuck
I mean, Rudabaga saying that she is rich and white.
Shannon Maldonado
That part. So Chanel. I like Chanel's look, and I think that Chanel did a good job. And some of my favorite jokes of hers, the George's diploma joke, I thought was funny, and the queen shaving their backs, I thought those are, in my opinion, her two strongest jokes. And I thought that she did a good job. She didn't knock. She didn't smash it. It was like, oh, my God, you're hilarious. I thought she did a good job.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah, I think she did a good job. It wasn't hilarious. One thing about Chanel, and this is just Chanel, she's very uptight and she's very. She's. She is a pageant queen without being a pageant queen. And, like, she's very meticulous and never, never gets out of her comfort zone. She is great on the mic, so her delivery of things is very clear and confident, and it makes you feel safe, but it's not overly funny. I like the look. What? I wish. I wish they would have given them a prompt that this was going to be like an election style. They all could have had, like, an over the top red, white, and blue look, even though I hate those. But this kind of goes with that. But I do like the look, and I think she did good. I don't think it was overly funny, but I think that she sold me on the fact that she sounded confident.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah, Yeah, I agree. Jorgeous was next, and I Think for Jorgeous, because we don't think of Jorgeous as being a comedy funny person. I think that Jorgeous. It makes Jorgeous look even better that she is doing a good job with this role. She walks up doing this like, macho thing and she's playing into this character that RuPaul told her to do, which is smart. And I think she has some really good ones. The Angeria eats ass with a side of mustard greens. I thought was very funny. And saying to Michelle, it's nice to have a man on the panel. I thought that was good. And she had some really good ones. I think George's is just surprised me about how well she's doing.
Trinity the Tuck
I think George's did good. I do think she did good. She did better than me on my first two seasons of.
Shannon Maldonado
Of roasts. Yeah.
Trinity the Tuck
A lot of. I've seen a lot of commentary online where they thought she should have won.
Shannon Maldonado
Okay.
Trinity the Tuck
But I think she did good. I don't. I don't. It wasn't. It wasn't. Like some of her jokes were kind of made me kind of uncomfortable. Like the. The thing at the end where she's like telling RuPaul are we gonna make out? Or what was kind of like, ew.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Shannon Maldonado
Okay, I didn't get that. Is that a reference that I'm missing? What was that about?
Trinity the Tuck
I don't know. It was just like kind of cringe. And then also like the. The thing about wider. I liked the first part of her joke about Nina's shoulders are wide or something. And then she says the only thing is. Is Carson's hole, a gaping hole. And that kind of made me uncomfortable a little bit. Like she should have just joked about herself because that's kind of been her running thing. I like when queens are. Are self deprecating. I'm a very self deprecating queen, so I like when they incorporate that. But yeah, I don't. I don't know. I. It was fine. It was good. It was. It was funny. It was funny. Yeah.
Shannon Maldonado
And up next we have Plastique, who is a dress up as Sailor Moon. Yeah. No, I guess. Yeah, everyone, really. I guess that's the rules. Are never themed. People just kind of just wear whatever you want. Well, ours is a funeral. All Stars 4 was a funeral. And that was good. We all were in black, so that made sense. Yeah.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah.
Shannon Maldonado
Maybe a theme would be nice, actually. Cause this is so like George is dressed up as a butch queen. Chanel is dressed up like. I don't know.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah. Like on All Star 7. It was like we. We had to do, like, we all were, like, at a speaking thing. Really nice.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah.
Trinity the Tuck
So everybody looked really good. Like, really polished and nice and professional. I liked plastiques a lot. I thought her jokes were. This is a perfect example of. She didn't write these jokes. She had these prepared, and rightfully so. She came prepared. I liked her bit at the beginning where she's like, I'm at the wrong convention. I don't get this cigarette thing. Like, it.
Shannon Maldonado
It's like, I don't get the cigarette either. The cigarette thing. Agreed.
Trinity the Tuck
They. She may have made a comment about it and they cut it out, but she's dressed up as Sailor Moon, who's like. Like, cute anime high school girl. Like, that's a Sailor Moon look. So I think the joke is just the juxtaposition of this sweet anime, like, schoolgirl who's smoking a cigarette.
Shannon Maldonado
But that's okay. There should have been more characterization of that. Right. There should have been more to give us to sell that juxtaposition.
Trinity the Tuck
I think there's too many elements. Unless there's jokes about that. There's just. There was no reason for her to have a cigarette. I think her landing the jokes was enough because her roast jokes were funny to me.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some of my favorite of her, she said, make it so white. If she were a spice, it'd be flower. I thought that was very funny. Yeah, that was really funny.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah.
Shannon Maldonado
Nita having to use Panorama to take a selfie. I think that is very funny. Michelle. Oh, my God. This is my favorite one of hers. The Michelle. The Michelle's vagina is so big that Leah Remini is hiding from Scientology in there. That was hilarious.
Trinity the Tuck
And what makes that hilarious versus the other jokes is that this is something very specific to Michelle and her best friend, which is Leah remedy. And so it's something personal. So it makes it sound like she wrote the joke herself.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah.
Trinity the Tuck
Which I. Which I appreciate. I thought it was a very smart joke.
Shannon Maldonado
I will say she had one of her ones where the end about RuPaul being black or whatever. It was a fine joke. But I would have cut that because earlier in the. In the reading challenge, Mick gave that really funny RuPaul being black, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And apparently it was so funny. Ru asked, got Mick to tell it again on the main stage. I never did so. And, like, plastique was fine, but mix was funnier. I would have. She had so many so much good material, she could probably cut that one. And no One would have missed it. You know what I mean?
Trinity the Tuck
Well, you know, this is a season of stealing jokes, so why not?
Shannon Maldonado
We'll get there. We'll get there very soon. Roxy Andrews, this fucking look. I am obsessed with it. I love this outfit. It's like, to me, that's this a fucking Runway outfit. You.
Trinity the Tuck
This is the. Her best Runway that she's had on the scene thus far. And it's not even a Runway look. It's the best, best look. And Roxy looks snatched. She looks tiny.
Shannon Maldonado
Good. Yes.
Trinity the Tuck
The hair. I've missed Roxy in this big hair. Come on, Roxy.
Shannon Maldonado
This is.
Trinity the Tuck
This is what we want. Got it. And she killed the roast.
Shannon Maldonado
She really did.
Trinity the Tuck
It was really fucking funny. She was so, so good. She was. I was very, very happy with Roxy. That point of the evening, for sure.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah, yeah. Like, her delivery. I think out of everyone, Roxxxy had the best delivery for me. And I thought her jokes were very funny. I thought she looked incredible.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah.
Shannon Maldonado
Like, Roxy walked up there, and that fucking gown was just like. If she looked like. She looked like she was the host of the show. Like, she looked like she was RuPaul. And these girls were hearing her show, like, in my opinion.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah.
Shannon Maldonado
Her chosen. Her joke about choosing Family Rule. Why did you choose Michelle?
Trinity the Tuck
I like the Gravity one. The Gravity Girl. That was fierce. Your outer saboteur.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah, yeah. And the Remembering Our Names. I am the Roxy. The wig Review.
Trinity the Tuck
One of the Fierces. If she would have pulled off that wig and had a hair reveal in that moment, that would have been cute.
Shannon Maldonado
Everything. Sorry. People listening to audio just fucking like, Monet. What's wrong with you? I'm sorry. That was just a really good idea. That would be cunt. That would have been cunt.
Trinity the Tuck
See, I have such great ideas.
Shannon Maldonado
You really do. If I ever. If there's ever a world. Well, I'm not gonna go back on Drag Race, but if I had to do on another show, I'm like, trinity, what should I do?
Trinity the Tuck
I need to start a Trinity school for girls.
Shannon Maldonado
Honestly, at this point, Trinity, you could probably have a business that is a drag race consulting business. If people get cast on the show, they pay you to consult about what they should do on the show.
Trinity the Tuck
We need to do it together. You want to be a winner, call the twinner. Yes, bitch.
Shannon Maldonado
That's.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah. Because between you and I, we've won every single challenge. That type of challenge that there is, girl.
Shannon Maldonado
Literally. Yeah, y' all ain't ready, but y' all ain't ready for that conversation. Vanjie. Comes out. And what the fuck is Vanjie wearing? I am so confused as to what Vanjie's wearing.
Trinity the Tuck
Okay, so I live. And the reason why I live is that Vanjie is kind of like Alyssa Edwards to me. They have a very chaotic style. Not always. Not always. Sometimes they have, like, a really polished, like, very put together look, but a lot of times they'll match hair with a look that don't. That you wouldn't necessarily think goes or match a bunch of stuff together that you wouldn't normally think goes. But then just because their character is just so outlandish, it just works for me. And so I live because it goes with her. Her character of. Of who Vanjie is, Vanjie's kind of all over the place, loud and obnoxious, but I love it. And this look is kind of that.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah. I mean, it's not for me and this. And, you know, a lot of people don't like Vanjie's interest look because what. Where I vibe with Angie. Vanjie does a lot of street wear, and Vanjie does a lot of, like, kind of like I do as well, like pedestrian, but like a little, you know, I love a pedestrian look, and I love that about Vanjie, but this is not it for me.
Trinity the Tuck
But, I mean, I would not wear this. I would wear pieces of this. But I just. I like it because Vanjie is. What I love about Vanjie is just chaotic, and that look is chaotic. She.
Shannon Maldonado
I would be anytime someone asked me to, like, like about Vanjie, because girls will ask. Fans will ask about other girls. I'm like, oh, my God. How is. How is Trinity in real life? I'm like, trinity's gray. How is Vanjie? I'm like, vanjie is literally the. The. The human embodiment of the Tasmanian devil.
Trinity the Tuck
Oh, my God.
Shannon Maldonado
She literally is a Tasmanian devil. Just like. Yeah, she's.
Trinity the Tuck
And if the Tasmanian devil, like, went to get dressed in a bedroom, they would have grabbed random stuff off of the floor in their bedroom and put it on, and then there you go.
Shannon Maldonado
As for her roast, I thought that using the N word bit was funny. I thought the second half of it was funny. The first one, she struggled with the delivery a little bit, but the second one, when she called Nina out, I thought that one worked very well. I thought it was very funny. And I think her funniest joke was the Jorgest man likes to burp her after she gets him head.
Trinity the Tuck
Very.
Shannon Maldonado
I thought that was very funny.
Trinity the Tuck
Very Funny. Nobody bombed. Everybody did great in the roast. I think nobody bombed. I think if we were to compare hers to other girls, she was on the lower scale of the other girls, but I still thought she did a good job. Like, again, I can say this because I bombed two of them. She did better than me in two of my roasts. So I. I thought she was good, and it was entertaining, even when it wasn't, like, funny funny.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah, because you like kind of. Kind of like Melissa Edwards.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah. They're just chaotic. It's. It's chaotic energy, and you love it because it's just like. It's like a sound. It's like a look. It's like, that they give. You know, there's just something in her. Like, when she shook her head, it was just. It was comedy. Physical comedy is so important.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah. Like, watching.
Trinity the Tuck
Just.
Shannon Maldonado
Just watching Vanjie exist is funny. Watching her just be herself is very. Is very entertaining.
Trinity the Tuck
Yep.
Shannon Maldonado
Angeria coming out in this, like, leopard and white catsuit. I mean, it's, It's a. It's a dance costume.
Trinity the Tuck
I'm fine with the look. I'm fine with the look. I think, you know, I don't think it's like, I mean, when you compare her to Roxy, I mean, it's definitely nowhere on the same caliber, but I think with Angeria, what I love about Angeria is I knew her before Drag Race. She's a pageant girl. She still gives me core pageant girl. Like, this is what a pageant girl would wear. It is like, she looks polished. Is it a. Is it a dance costume? It is. It is a dance costume, but she looks polished. I, I, I just. I thought she just murdered this roast. To me. I thought, like, there was just nobody else, and, like, it was just everything just flowed naturally for her. Her accent helped her a lot, and she just sat into this. It was just. It was perfect.
Shannon Maldonado
It was watching. She seemed like a professional person who could be on any Comedy Central roast or anything. Like, she just. It was just so effortless and so natural. Her delivery. Sorry, I said Roxy had the best delivery. I forgot we didn't get to. Angeria had the best delivery of the night. Her delivery was just so seamless and so effortless, and the way she just flowed from joke to joke, like, I didn't realize she was even reading anything. And she just said, like, she was just speaking from the top of her brain. Yeah. And to your point, also, I think her accent. Her accent, really, she has found a way to make her accent be her greatest asset in her comedy, like, it just, she knows how to affect things and to say things in a certain way, to really punch up her jokes with. Just the way she's delivering it with her, with, with her tone.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah. I mean, you remember that, that thing you ugly bit like that is just. That's gold. She makes me laugh. I, I, On a side note, outside of this, I love Andrea. I think she is just one of the kindest queens, one of the most supportive queens, and just funny. I would love to tour with her. I just think she's a good time.
Shannon Maldonado
I would, too. From some of my favorite ones of hers. When she's, when she walked out, she said the cast of the Haunted Mansion. I thought that was funny. Or Michelle being Rue's service animal. That was funny. Yes. And following it up with don't you bite me, you bitch. I thought, so good. Nina's proctologist stuck his finger in her mouth because she gagged.
Trinity the Tuck
And Nina was gagged, girl. It did that zoom in of Nina. And Nina was gagged.
Shannon Maldonado
So good. And I thought the misdirection of the Roxxxy Andrews into the Jinx line was so good.
Trinity the Tuck
It was so good. She, she murdered it. I mean, there was nobody that came close. I, I, yeah, I, yeah, it was amazing. I would not want to go after her.
Shannon Maldonado
I know. And I mean, going on to got Mick, which is a lot of controversy about got mixed roast, y'.
Podcast Host
All.
Shannon Maldonado
But let's start with her look. I think that she looks so punk, so cool. Having the asymmetry, even in like, which is so punk rock. Having asymmetry in just the straps of the dress is cool. The hair is fucking amazing. She looks like. She looks, she looks incredible.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah. Again, I don't think her roast was terrible. I mean, I did worse. I think other people have done worse. I think on a mediocre roast season, like, because this was literally the best roast accumulatively for, for any season or at least a season for a while. If, if it would have been another season, she would have been me mid, mid. Maybe mid high. I thought the jokes were there, but I think her delivery could have been a little clearer.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah. Which is crazy because even her previous roles and got Mick is funny and she has good delivery. It was weird that she couldn't land those probably.
Trinity the Tuck
If you notice, and we'll talk about this later. I'm sure if you notice her the rest of the episode and into untucked. Something's bothering her. I don't know what exactly. And I don't think maybe they did, and I didn't pay attention, but I don't think they ever cleared it up. Exactly. What bothered her, maybe it was the fact that she was blocked, but I. I don't know. There's something amiss with.
Shannon Maldonado
With her.
Trinity the Tuck
Her energy is just not there. But yeah, going on to the topic of the. The evening is, you know, people are calling her out for. For basically plagiarizing Nikki Glaser, like, word for word.
Shannon Maldonado
And I think that. I think that's the problem, right? No one is saying you can't have jokes written. Like, even all these roles y' all see on tv for Rob Lowe. What's that, the football guy that just did it for Netflix is a joke. Jacob, Tom Brady. All these roles you see on tv, these people, yes, they're comedians, but oftentimes they have writers help them write jokes. Like, writing jokes is not the problem. The problem is the plagiarizing. Taking word for word someone else's material and passing it as your own. Right, because she gottmik tweeted, Wait, do you guys. Because what was going around was a video of Nikki Glaser saying it. And then people put in, got mixed delivery. Like, Right. Like, literally, Nikki Glazer jokes back to back with. Got mixed. And they were like word for word pretty much besides the subjects. She would change the name of the subjects, but they were word for word for her. So that was going around. And people said, got Mick tweeted. Wait, do you guys think everyone wrote their jokes? Lol. Nikki is my queen, so reworking a few of her jokes was a duh for me. Love her. So, yeah, babe, it's not that you like. It's not writing. It's not getting help writing jokes. That's not. Who cares? It's the stealing someone's work that's the problem.
Trinity the Tuck
I think this is my issue with it. It's. It's. And this is my. My total raw opinion for this. What this is for. For Drag Race, when you are not a comedian and you are not really, like, for this specific thing, you're not booked to be a roaster or a comedian. It doesn't bother me that much. Who cares? Nikki Blazer is a rich comedian traveling the world doing her. Her stuff. She's not. Girl. There's no skin off her teeth for this. Honestly. And probably this is good press for Nikki Glaser. My issue with. With it is when. When she's called out is just not. Not owning up to it and just being like, you know what? Yeah, I took some jokes I, I, I did, I'm not good at writing jokes. I, I took somebody else's jokes. I knew I wasn't gonna win. I knew I wasn't gonna be good. So I just, I just, was just trying to get through. So sorry. You know, instead of trying to be like backpedaling in like, oh, everybody gets stuff written for you but you, those weren't written for you. Just own up to it, girl. Own up to it, Move on. I mean, it doesn't, this, that doesn't, the fact that she, she said some joke, cuz there's no real original jokes. I mean like everything has been said, everything. Like, I just wish she would have changed the words a little bit more and also just owned up to, to it and move on. I mean, it's not that big a girl. She's not getting paid to go around the world as a comedian, at least right now, and it looks like never again. But that, that's, that's my thing.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah, that's the thing. Like going in with the tweet because the queen, the tweet kind of seems like she's saying, oh, well, the other girls, like what the subtext of that tweet is. Well, the other, well, the other girls didn't write their jokes either, which is a little shady to the other girls. You know what I mean? Because it's like, well, I mean, do you, I mean, I'm sure a lot of people got help, but maybe some people did write their stuff. So like, instead of like, like you said, owning up to it, it just seems like it's trying to say, well, the other girls didn't write theirs either. AKA well, no one writes their own jokes. Like, yeah, you took Nikki Blazers. So that's, that's the issue with it.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah.
Shannon Maldonado
And you know, and I do think one of them, I think just happened that she did. Right. Or I never heard it before was the Carson transition joke. And that seemed like she wrote, that was specifically about Carson in that moment. So I want to give her kudos for that, but yeah, yeah.
Trinity the Tuck
And she's naturally, to me, she is naturally funny. I think that she was funny in her last roast. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, maybe she, she, it confuses me on why she didn't just pay somebody to write her jokes for her because she, she could do that, you know, she has, yeah, she, she makes good money. She could. Having somebody write your jokes is like, costs what, like a thousand dollars for like a set of jokes? I mean, it's not that, you know, I. If. If I ever had a friend go on Drag Race, I would give them literally all of my jokes that I've taken on tour that I've already paid for and be like, here, look. You know what? I've used it on the show already. Just decipher through these and that, you know, because you'd want somebody to do well, girl, buy some jokes. You don't have to go online and just. Just take them from. From them. But, yeah, it's. To me, this is not a big deal. Just because she's not. She's not going around the world touring at, you know, as a. Selling herself as a comedian and making money off of somebody else's joke.
Podcast Host
She's.
Trinity the Tuck
She's literally bombing a. A roast with taking somebody's joke, and this ain't gonna matter next week. So. But, yeah, I. I just wish she would have owned up to it.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah. Moving on to Ms. Nina West. I think that Nina, she's. I guess she's wearing. She's supposed to be the devil. I think that's what she's trying to do. And I think this is. This is a good look. She looks good.
Trinity the Tuck
I'm actually. I was gonna say I love this dress. The dress on her is fierce. Don't let the hair. It's very Nina hair. I would love to get a hold of her and help style her. I think her makeup looks great, but the dress, the shape, everything. The dress looks great on her. Yeah.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah. And Nina has a good one too. Georgeous has a body that won't quit and a brain that won't start. I thought that was very funny. And she has two brain cells fighting for third place. I think in the scheme of everyone, I don't think Nina wasn't at this hot for me. Like, my tops were plastique rocks in Nigeria. But I did think that she did a good job.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah, I think she did good. I think she purposely made a safe roast.
Shannon Maldonado
You think so?
Trinity the Tuck
Oh, yeah, because that's her brand. Her brand is not tearing girls down. It's Disney. You know, she's got a lot of sponsorship riding on her personality, and if she was to go around, you know, calling people, you ugly, fat slut, you know, Disney, you can't be. You can't be doing press for us anymore. You know, so she's. She's definitely probably coddling her reputation, which is fine. You know, it is what it is sometimes, you know, you got to look out for your. Yourself. But I thought she was fine. I thought she was funny. She was A fine closer. It wasn't anything to write home about. I agree with you. The top three were definitely Angeria, Roxy, and Plastique.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah, for sure. And let's go into these runways really quick. The theme was Atomic Blonde, which my favorite movie. Not my favorite movie of all time, but over the recent years, I love this movie. I've watched it so many times. Charlize Theron, Atomic Blonde.
Trinity the Tuck
So good.
Shannon Maldonado
My brain would have went something more in, like, espionage and in that world. But I get. I think that this is one of the instances where the prompt they got in the email is different than what they ended up calling it.
Trinity the Tuck
That happens because that happens a lot. Yeah, Yeah. I, I, I love that movie. I love Charlize Theron in anything. She's fabulous. I probably would have went very Mad Max Thunderdome. There's so many of those movies out from the 80s, 70s, 80s all the way up till till now that I would have. I would have referenced probably something from that. With Chanel, there's two things here. Her hair and makeup look amazing, and then the outfit below looks great. I don't like her hair with this outfit. I don't think it goes. I don't like the juxtaposition. I know some of the judges gave her positive critiques because of that Carson did. I don't like that. I think. I think it should be consistent all the way through. One thing I want to say about Chanel is I think Chanel is one of the best makeup artists that has ever been on Drag Race. Look at her makeup. It is, like, so perfect. I think if Raven ever was to stop doing Ru's makeup, Chanel should take over because she's just that polished with everything. It just looks very crisp. Everything very blended. I like the look. Don't like the hair and the, the look together.
Shannon Maldonado
I agree with that. I love this look. Even this, like, leather distress corset thing with the shoes. I mean, small thing. Y' all don't be in shoes. I wish she would have covered the shoes or did a different shoe. Something I hate. It's just, like, some strappy Sandily thing under it. But I love this outfit. I would wear this outfit. And I agree. I would not wear this hair. It's not my type of hair, and I just. She could have done something so much like something if the hair was different, she wouldn't like something just was distressed and, like, cool. Like this just Maryland hair with. This is not the tea.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah, even, Even George's hair that, that we're about to See, like, would have been cool with that look. Something like that.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of, I love George's Runway. I think George's looks so, so, so good. So good. I. I love this hair. The makeup is pretty. These spikes. She looks. Jordan looks incredible. I love this.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah. This is very drag. Mad Max Thunderdome. It really is, like, it's Lady Gaga Chromatica. It is drag queen after the apocalypse. I think the hair. The scale of the hair next to George's size is hysterical. And to me, this is probably my favorite Runway of her so far this season.
Shannon Maldonado
I would agree. I would agree. The furry one was kind of cool too.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she's had some. Some. Some good ones, some that I don't love, but this one I really love.
Shannon Maldonado
Let's go on to Plastique. Who's doing this, like, car. I think she's supposed to be car bunny. Car bunny. That's what it was. She said. I don't really specifically get the reference, but I do think this is a cool look. I think that she, like, I can't tell the bottom is black or if it's, like, a shiny. It's all just. It's. It just the fabric choices of how they look with this with the lights hitting it, it looks really cool. And I think plastic looks hot.
Trinity the Tuck
She is never amiss fully with with a look. I mean, even her worst look is. Is still better than half the Runway looks that have been on Drag Race. Her standing still. I love the look. My Only. If I was to give some criticism would be these pipes look like pool noodles. When they're walking, they look flimsy, and to me, it just looks like a pool noodle, and I don't live for that. But that's just me being picky. I think she looks incredible overall. Her hair and her makeup. She's always so detailed.
Shannon Maldonado
Beautiful. Yeah, everything. And Michelle made the comment about white eyeliner and white lashes. I hate that shit too. Jay, please put a picture of Dusty Ray bottoms, all stars 10. But this does not. This is not as offensive to me. I don't. I still don't love.
Trinity the Tuck
Sorry, did you say Dusty Ray bottoms and All Stars 10?
Shannon Maldonado
I mean, season 10. Sorry.
Podcast Host
Oh, my God.
Trinity the Tuck
Are you leaking Dusty's tea? This is crazy.
Shannon Maldonado
Imagine you heard it first. I still don't love white lashes, but I do think it does work with the overall look here.
Trinity the Tuck
I think Plastique is just an incredible makeup artist, so I think if you know how to work with certain mediums, it can translate. And with Plastique because of her talent. It translates. And some girls that you named, they're just not known for makeup. And I mean, they are kind of known for makeup, but not
Shannon Maldonado
dots.
Trinity the Tuck
But not. Yeah. Not plastic makeup.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah. Roxxxy Andrews is doing a whole Daniel Boone situation with the raccoon hat or whatever animal that is hat and the fur and the outfit. What do you think about this look?
Trinity the Tuck
I'm bored. I'm gonna just say it now. I think she looks great. I think this is a quintessential Roxy Andrews look. I've, I've seen her in. In looks like this without the fur. Looks like this for her shows. I'm bored. I, I, I. Roxy, if you're listening, sister, I love you. I'm, I'm a huge Roxy. Stan. I think she's an incredible entertainer. I have nothing but respect for her. I will say that I think Roxy hasn't lived up to the Runway hype this year. I thought, I thought she was better on All Stars 2 with her runways, and they had better. More budget this season.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah.
Trinity the Tuck
I don't, I don't love this. I think that the sleeves look cheap. I think. I don't. The hat thing with the, the dead carcass on her head is, Is awful. It looks like somebody's pet dog just ran over and slapped on. I don't know. I just don't love it. I don't love it. I don't love it. I don't love it. Her body looks good.
Shannon Maldonado
Your body looks incredible. And I do think there are some elements that especially because her roast outfit was so. I mean, like, her rose look was so delicious and perfect and beautiful. Just kind of follow up with this later on in the episode. Is not cool. Great.
Trinity the Tuck
No. Nope.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah.
Trinity the Tuck
I wish she would have blown this up with the atomic bomb.
Shannon Maldonado
Let's go on to Vanessa Vanjie Mateo and this knitted look. I think this is cool. I wish that we didn't see the undergarments so much. Like, I wish. I don't know. I wish there was a way to even. I know it's supposed to be like, her skin color. Her nudes make it disappear, but I can't help but see it. But I do like the idea of this. And I wish, I wish you didn't have the thigh high boots as well. Those thigh high pleasers.
Trinity the Tuck
The nude undergarments don't. Are not so offensive to me as they are.
Shannon Maldonado
You.
Trinity the Tuck
The boots need to go. I don't get the boots at all. It takes away from the luxuriousness of the dress. The hair is just Linda Evangelista in the future. I think she looks absolutely incredible. I don't. This is, to me, does not fit the bill at all. It is not atomic blonde at all. I don't get futuristic, like, after the apocalypse. I don't get that at all. I think she looks absolutely incredible, though. I think this is such a cool look.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah.
Trinity the Tuck
Beautiful face. I mean, Vanjie is just so pretty, and she just continues to wow me. But, yeah, get rid of the thigh highs. And I would have wore this for a different Runway because this does not give atomic to me.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah, I agree. It doesn't say atomic, but I do think I would wear this fucking knitted outfit. Maybe just. Maybe just one outfit you tape for, girl you tape for and just wear, like. Just wear like, a little waspy corset. So just have that and just show the rest of the skin because, yeah, it's very cool. It is cool. Let's go on to Angeria wearing this look. I think this hair. I hate this hair. The outfit looks wild. It looks like just a green version of Jiggy Caliente's season four outfit, and I am not a fan of this look. Carson was very sweet. He said, Nigeria, your look has a lot of personality, and I'm like, shady. Yeah, a lot of personality. I do not like this look.
Trinity the Tuck
Okay, so this is. Okay, this is where I'm gonna disagree.
Shannon Maldonado
What?
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah, okay, listen, listen, listen. All of your. All of your critiques are valid. All of them are valid. I don't know why. I cannot give you a, like, a reason why. Because looking at the hair. Don't love the hair. The outfit, it doesn't look expensive to me, but there's something about the hair and the shape of all of this and the way she modeled it, because she modeled it very butchly. That. I don't know why. I. I don't know. When I initially saw it, I hated it. And then I saw her model it, and I actually watched the episode twice just to make sure I remembered everything for the podcast. I don't know why. I. I don't. It's not. Not the best Runway by far, but I don't know why I like it. I don't know. I don't. I don't know. I don't. I don't love it, but it. I don't know. I don't love it, but I like it for. For the. The ensemble of everything together packaged with. With the whole look, the silhouette, the walk. It's almost like she looks like A troll. You know what I mean? Like a truck. Like, it's not like, almost like a
Shannon Maldonado
troll guardian or something.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah. Like, it's not supposed to be pretty. It's supposed to look weird. And she walks really masculine, and I'm like, I don't know how I kind of like it, but. But. But aesthetically, if she was to wear this hair with something else, I would have hated it. And if she would have. If I'm picking apart the outfit. Yeah. I. The. The skirt is awful, but I don't know. I just. I like it. I. I like the. I like the way she modeled it. It sold it for me. I don't know. I don't. I. I don't know.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah, the way that hair just has that big bump in the back.
Trinity the Tuck
And y'.
Shannon Maldonado
All.
Trinity the Tuck
Y' all know me. I'm. I'm. I don't hold back. I just. There's just something about it. I don't know. Is the essence of a troll to me, maybe because I used to collect those little troll dolls as a kid, so maybe I'm partial to that because
Shannon Maldonado
it gives me, like. Oh, my God, my childhood.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah. It gives me the little troll dolls with, like, the gems in the belly button. I don't know. I love it. I don't know. It's weird. It's weird.
Shannon Maldonado
Let's go on to Ms. Gotta Meek. She. She described what this was, and I forgot the words that she used, but it's like. I don't know.
Trinity the Tuck
I don't know. It ne. She never fails to me.
Shannon Maldonado
Like, it looks so good.
Trinity the Tuck
It. Like, it gives me. She was at a. At a. At a ball, and a. An explosive bomb went off, ripped off her nipple, took a gash out of her thigh, shredded her dress, and. Oh, my titty. And. And. And she looks incredible. I think she looks like, almost like. What is it? Terminator Goes to Prom? I love it.
Shannon Maldonado
I love that she is not, you know, considering God makes entire journey as a trans man. She's not afraid. Obviously, he's a drag queen to play with gender. But I mean, going as far. I mean, I know the conservatives are probably mad at this one, too, of having. Of using a prosthetic to put her boob on. So cool. And Mark Domic is such a great makeup artist. You cannot see the seams. Like, you cannot see where this fucking prosthetic begins and ends. It looks really well done. She looks high fashion. She looks gorgeous. She nailed it.
Trinity the Tuck
I love that she always uses her drag as almost like a. Like, not necessarily a Protest. But all of her drag serves as a platform for her story. And I love, love that. I love. Always makes you think, and that's what art should do. It always makes you think.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah.
Trinity the Tuck
And so, to me, this made up for her roast.
Shannon Maldonado
You think that. You think that this puts her in the top because this and her roast together.
Trinity the Tuck
No, no, no, no, no. I'm saying it like it neutralized my negative feelings about her roast.
Shannon Maldonado
Got it, got it, got it. Now let's go on to Nina West. I've seen a lot of discourse about this online. I think this is a good look. I think Nina looks. I've never seen her look so good. Her eye makeup was fucking stunning. I love how literal she took the prompt Atomic Blonde. She's literally dressed as an atomic blonde, as an atomic bomb with the mushroom cloud at the top. It lights up the hair. I think this is the best Nina has looked, and I'm obsessed with this look. I love this.
Trinity the Tuck
I am fully there with you the first time. This is, like, a total departure from last week. She had shape. Her hair is pretty. You know, her hair is off of her face. And the thing is, is, like, Nina has figured out for herself how to do her makeup, and it looked really pretty, and her makeup looks pretty, and I like that there's like a. A bomb cloud. Yeah, I. I love the shape. It's very cartoonish, but it. She looks pretty, and he looks amazing. This is. This is how I want Nina every week when. You know, because she's very literal with her runways. Yeah. If they could all be this polished, I would live.
Shannon Maldonado
This is. This looks like an All Stars presentation.
Trinity the Tuck
This looks like an All Stars Nina.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah. All Stars Nina.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah, I agree.
Trinity the Tuck
I was rooting for you. We were all rooting for you.
Shannon Maldonado
I know. Obviously, the show is filmed already. You can't go back and change it, but I'm praying that going forward. But for some reason, they're all this strong and this great because this is. This is like a really polished next level Nina. I love how she looks here.
Trinity the Tuck
I love it too.
Shannon Maldonado
So RuPaul announces the winners, and the winners are Angeria and plastique. Do you agree?
Trinity the Tuck
I'm fine with that. I'm fine with it. I might have swapped out plastique with Roxy, but if we're going technical because of the runways, I think that was the proper top two. You tired, bitch? What's happening? Are you bored? Am I not doing it for you this episode?
Shannon Maldonado
No, you are. I am. I'm trying to think if. Well, Roxy has already won. She already has three badges.
Trinity the Tuck
Yep.
Shannon Maldonado
So should have won. Should have been four. Is this Plastique second? No, this is Plastique's third.
Trinity the Tuck
Third. Yeah. You know, yeah.
Shannon Maldonado
Yes. They have Roxy to run. I mean, Roxy's Runway, though, out of all the runways. Let me see. Yeah. Roxy and Angeria have the two weakest ones for me. So I think, if anything, again, we never know how the fucking runways will stack up. But in my opinion, Roxy's Runway knocked her out of contention for the top spot. So I think Plastique and Angeria. I think this makes sense.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah. I agree.
Shannon Maldonado
Nigeria's Runway is bad, but her roast was so good.
Trinity the Tuck
Superior to everybody. It just. And. And again, I. Her Runway did something for me. Is it. Is it one of the top three? No, but there's something about it. The personality of it, the way she modeled it. I think another thing I'm giving lots of feedback for, for girls that might get on the show later. Listen it. When you go on the show, think of different ways to present your look on the Runway. Don't just give a model Runway. Whatever the theme is, you need to model it. You need to sell it in whatever you're doing in that. That personality. Like, when Monet wears a gown, she models it like a fucking gown. You know, when you are dressed like a troll doll, you better walk the Runway like you're a fucking troll doll. Like, I. There was something about it that sold it for me. But, yeah, I think she just was so superior, though, that she was top two.
Shannon Maldonado
Oh, for sure. There's no way she could not have been top two with that. With that rose. It was so good. Plastique and Angeria go to lip sync. And, you know, y' all know Plastique is my girl. We just had on arrival episode recently. I'm kind of gagged at Plastique. Plastique in these lip syncs, girl. The lip syncs are not like. You see the point where she literally just points at Angeria like, okay, you go. And she just stopped lip syncing all together. I'm like, plastic. What is going on?
Trinity the Tuck
You know, I also think that this was very bad planning on the show. Why are you giving these girls all these damn words to learn? You know, you're giving them 25 freaking songs for them to learn. And, you know, barely knows pop culture. She ain't gonna know things before she was born. So, like. So, like, she's having to learn all these songs. I. I just wish the show was a little bit. Just a Little bit more kinder to what they're putting these girls through and giving.
Shannon Maldonado
Do you think they should have a. A prompter?
Trinity the Tuck
No, I think that they should pick songs that are not so freaking wordy. And, you know, especially doing two wordy ass songs in the same lineup is just too much. You. You can't expect. Expect these girls to know all of this and they're having to learn choreography and they're having, you know, not in this specific episode, but like there, there's so much going on. Even when you leave the show that night, when you go to prepare, like the roast, you're having to learn your roast jokes on top of learning the words to a song. You know, it's just like, girl, come on, be a little kinder to these queens.
Shannon Maldonado
Like, I think, but I think that adds to all the drama of it all. Like, if you like went home and you memorized your roast and got your roast good enough, time to learn to lip sync, bitch. That's why you're not going with $2,500.
Trinity the Tuck
But to me, I would rather instead of having some girls not know their damn words, I would rather it be a battle of two girls lip syncing fiercely and you're like, who's going to win? Who's going to win? Rather than be like, oh, she don't know the words. So obviously it's going to go to Angeria. So, you know, it's just like, I would rather it been a fierce, fierce lip sync and been like, oh, that was fierce.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah. But, you know, plastique. The lip sync ends and it's Claire Injury one. Can you hear me? Can you hear me now?
Trinity the Tuck
I can. You froze, like my face for a minute. But,
Shannon Maldonado
um, so the lip sync gets done and Plastique clearly loses. I mean, I hope she takes some time now to learn something because, I mean, because I feel like in my opinion, when girls didn't know the words and you have a big one that was on tv. Ruby. I think, I think Ru really. I think Ru really hates that. He hates me to know the words of the song.
Trinity the Tuck
Yep. But this is a non elimination episode, so, girl. So you didn't win again, but curious Slade. Injurious Slade, her roast. I think she gave it her all for the lip sync. The. The thing with me with injury, she's not a very strong lip syncher compared to some of the other girls.
Shannon Maldonado
Like Vanjie.
Trinity the Tuck
Like Vanjie. Like Plastique when she knows the words, but she gives it her all and she was really in it. And I. And I was living. I was living. And when she saw that Plastique didn't know those words, she was really feeling that the. The fast part. So I. I was living. I was living. And I think total deserve hype for Angeria, especially after last week of her almost getting the snip snip again, much deserved.
Shannon Maldonado
Well, she goes to do the snips, and she takes a very long time. She's asking RuPaul and Kenshi pray about it and do all these things. She ends up. Which she did all that. Bitch, you know you wanted to block Roxy for snipping you while you acting up. Girl, just go. Just. Just go ahead and sit this girl. You know, you want to repay her. You know that you sit there like, I don't know, can I pray about it? Bitch, you know what you want to do. Stop the drama. Stop the cap. She snips Roxy, and Roxy is smiling through her rage. But I know Roxy is over it. And we see the preview. She is mad. Mad.
Trinity the Tuck
Oh, girl, she is turning into Fifi o' Hara behind that wig. You know, her. Her skin tone under that makeup has turned cherry red. She is fuming. She has literally turned to a. An atomic bomb behind that dead carcass. But, you know, the thing about this is you gotta be kind of smart again. This is all strategy. Like, you know, after you blocked Roxy before, she blocked you back, right? So why would you block her again when you know she's gonna come back for you? You know she's going to come back for you, and Roxy's ahead, so just block somebody else from being able to get ahead, like Gottmik or Nina or Vanjie or even Georgia, since she just got that extra badge, you know, I mean, there's so many other people you could have blocked that would have.
Shannon Maldonado
Instead of trying to, like, do an eye for an eye, you got to start thinking strategy for strategy, girl.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah.
Shannon Maldonado
Everything can't be an eye for now. You got to think strategy.
Trinity the Tuck
Yeah. And. And so if, you know, anger, if you get blocked again by Roxy, you can't be mad about it, sweetie. I mean, if you want to be eye for eye, you could have went back. What would have been logical is if she would have went and blocked Vanjie, because Vanjie was part of that block before. So if you want to be logical and just have an excuse, she was like, girl, I don't mean anything other than I'm just tapping you back, you know?
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah.
Trinity the Tuck
And after this, as long as you don't come for me, we're even.
Shannon Maldonado
Yeah. So this was the roast episode, and as Trinity said before, I think this was an overall, a very good roast, very entertaining, and we shall see what happens next week.
Trinity the Tuck
Oh, it's gonna be. It's so much little drama.
Shannon Maldonado
It's getting good. It's getting good. Again, not saying this shit wasn't good, but with this drama and stuff like this, it gets fun.
Trinity the Tuck
It is getting good. It is getting good.
Shannon Maldonado
All right, we're gonna dip on over to the sibling rivalry Patreon for a little untucked.
Trinity the Tuck
See y.
Date: June 18, 2024
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob the Drag Queen
Episode Focus: A comedic, thorough breakdown of All Stars S9E6, specifically the Roast challenge, with wider commentary on Drag Race dynamics, roast culture, and runway fashion.
In this episode, Monét and Bob (joined this week by Trinity the Tuck and Shannon Maldonado for the recap panel) dissect the "National Drag Convention Roast" episode of RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars 9. The panel dives into this season’s drama, contestant performances in the roast, runway critiques, and the evolving cultural landscape of drag. The conversation is lively and irreverent, with plenty of personal anecdotes, insider knowledge, and shade.
Chanel
Jorgeous
Plastique Tiara
Roxxxy Andrews
Vanessa Vanjie Mateo
Angeria Paris VanMicheals
Gottmik
Nina West
Panel’s Top 3 Roasters: Angeria, Roxxxy Andrews, Plastique (with strong agreement that Angeria was miles ahead in the roast).
Theme: Inspired by the film, but with varied interpretations.
[70:05–74:14] Lip Sync: Plastique vs. Angeria. Plastique struggles, Angeria delivers—clear win for Angeria.
Snip (Blocking): After much “deliberation,” Angeria blocks Roxxxy, setting up clear tension for next week.
| Segment | Timestamp | |-------------------------------|------------| | Origin of Trinity’s Name | 01:04–02:44| | Memoir/Storytelling Discussion| 02:44–05:23| | Changing Drag Standards | 11:26–14:27| | Chanel’s Brunch Drama | 11:46–13:07| | Roast Challenge Planning | 18:13–23:30| | Joke Writing Controversy | 45:45–52:59| | Roast Breakdown | 30:35–54:51| | Runway Critiques | 55:06–69:44| | Lip Sync & Blocking | 70:05–78:37|
The episode is quintessential Sibling Rivalry: funny, brutally honest, sometimes raunchy, and deeply knowledgeable about drag and Drag Race. It’s both a celebration and a sharp critique of the All Stars roast. The hosts keep it lively with references, personal stories, sharp shade, and encouragement to future competitors.
Final Panel Verdict:
This was one of the best-roasted (pun intended) episodes in recent years, with high performance throughout and only minor quibbles (mainly with joke originality and certain runways). The drama is heating up, and the panel is here for it.
For fans who missed the episode: this recap covers all strategic talking points, best jokes, roast drama, and runway fashion. Tune in to the official Sibling Rivalry Patreon for extended Untucked coverage!