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All. We are back on Sibling Watchery. Reviewing RuPaul.
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You don't know what show this is.
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We're back on sibling Watchery, reviewing season 17, episode 11 Ross Matthews versus the duck. Did you see Capote with.
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I had no idea the reference.
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No, Capote was starring Philip Seymour Hoffman.
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Is this.
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Philip Seymour hoffman died like 10 years ago. I want to say Philip Hoffman was in Capote. He literally was the star of Capote. Oh, I thought you were talking about the. Sorry, I thought you were talking about the Fox TV show Truman vs.
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The Swans. No, no, no.
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So Capote was, I want to say, Philip Seymour Hoffman's big role that took him as a serious actor because he was doing like a lot of silly stuff before he was. I think he was in like Meet the Fockers or some business.
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I don't know. He was in Along Came Paulie. That's what. That's what I know C. Woffman from.
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But then he became. He got known as a very serious actor because of Capote. Capote was kind of like the Wendy Williams of his time. He was like a kind of a shock jockey. And when Felix Seymour Hoffman played him. Did I tell you that when I used to be a real estate agent, Philip Seymour Hoffman used to walk by my window every single day because.
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Did you live where he live at?
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I was working in the West Village. My office was in the West Village. And I sat right in front of the window. And I mean, obviously he looked like he was having a really hard Life. Like, obviously, you know, he passed away. He had. He. He died of consumption, so to speak. He. Drugs and alcohol.
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Damn.
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And he would. He was walking. It looked like he was walking toward Herald Square. I don't know where he was going, but, like, he was walking toward Herald Square. And I mean, he just looked like he was having a rough. Every time I saw him, I was like, my God, this guy was having a really rough day.
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Regards to Broadway. Remember me to Harold Square.
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I wonder why they say because Harold Square is so far from like. I mean, Broadway is like a street over, but like, Broadway is so. Because Harold Square is in, like, the West Village and Broadway is in Midtown. But maybe. Maybe they were referring to that song. Was referring to the actual street, Broadway.
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I think they're saying, like, all over. I think. I think the song is saying remember me all over this town, not just in Broadway.
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My regards to Broadway. Remember me at South Fairy. Like, who goes to South Ferry if you're not getting on the.
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I've never been to South Ferry.
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Have you ever been to Staten Island?
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I've driven through it. I've never gone to Staten island for it as a destination. I've driven through, though.
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I was talking last night to Jared Goldstein, who's a comedian from Long island and his family has since moved to Staten island. And I was like, I know so many New Yorkers who have never been to Staten Island. I. In my 12 years, I did one show one time in Staten island, and
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I giga Staten Island.
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Yeah, I did a sober comedy show in Staten Island. Like, my, like, my third year there, I did some standup there. And then I once I told you before I moved to New York City, I once accidentally got on the Verazana Bridge and went into Staten island and literally just did like a U turn. I've been to Staten island twice, and one time was completely by accident. What are you driving through Staten Island? What the are you talking about? Driving through Staten Island? To go where?
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To go to school. My school was in Princeton, New Jersey. You had to drive. Take the Verrazano Drive through Staten island to get to the Gothel's Bridge that takes you to Jersey.
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Interest. I didn't know that, but yeah. One of my first times running, having a running with a law in New York City was I got stuck on the verge on a bridge. And once you're on, you can't turn around. There's no loop de loop. You have to go. And by the way, it costs. At the time, it was like 15 at the time, it Was a little less. Probably. This was 2005, 2006, maybe. You had to pay. By the way, y', all, you have to pay to get into staten island to pay to get out. You have to pay the toll both ways.
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No one wants to fucking be there. So they're like, bitch, they're hoping to have the money so that you're stuck there and you have to live there and work there.
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So I was on the bridge, and I was like, oh, shit, I can't turn around. And the cop was like, I need. Not the cop, the meter mate or whoever. The person working the thing was like, it'll be this much money. I said, oh, I don't have any money.
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The meter mate. The meter maid is hilarious. Not the meter maid.
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I'm sorry. I said, this was an accident. I'm so sorry. And he goes, it's okay. I'll give you this little ticket. You can pay it in the mail. I said, great, bitch. I looped around. They hit me again. And then I was a new attendant, and. And I was like, oh, can I get one more of these? And he goes, you can pull over because you're under arrest. You're not allowed to do that. I said, I'm sorry. What? I was like, maybe 20 or 19 years old. I said, what? He was like, you can't do that. That's illegal, bitch. He called the cops on me. I started crying. I was like, please let me go. Please let me go. I don't even live here. I was visiting at the time, driving my friend's car, and then he was like. And then after I cried, he let me go. Isn't that crazy?
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Please, Mr. G. Look, have you ever seen crybaby with Johnny depp?
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Yeah, years ago. The movie.
A
Yeah. Okay, but to quote you, this is not civil rivalry. This is sibling wisery. And we are here to discuss RuPaul's Drag Race Season 17.
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Well, me and Monet also have a split in opinion. Monet does not think untucked was boring, but I do.
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No, I did think it was boring.
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Now you know it was not boring. This mirror message and y', all.
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That's okay. Can I be really honest? That's why I felt like I had so much vitriol for arrietty last episode, Because I was privy to this, and I was all up in my feelings for on your nerve. Which. Which is not. You know, I reacted how I reacted. I do feel bad about the comment. I said, so I don't let Arietty find out.
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Cause Arietty said it's not your business between her and Anya Nerve. This has nothing to do with you.
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So that's why I was so jazzed up last episode. I was still hot. I was still seething hot. From this mirror message. You want to read it to us, Bob?
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So the mirror message says, from one smelly bitch to another, anya, please brush your teeth. And then we find out that Anya Nerve has a condition that makes her breath smell bad. Some form of halitosis or some dental issue. I think Lexi said that there might be a dental issue. Um, I don't know what it is, but. On your nerve has a condition that makes her breath smell really bad. Um, and.
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And she said. And she said. She said, I haven't been to the dentist. I'm like, bitch, you should have went before you filmed the show.
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Well, going to the dentist, some people get afraid to go to the. I was following this one girl on TikTok who. I felt so bad for her. I can't. It was so. It was years ago. She had this video, and she's like, guys, I am brushing my teeth for the first time in, like, five years. Because her teeth were, like, so sensitive. They were, like, falling apart. And she's brushing them really, really gently. But, like, so sometimes. Dental issues. I've had dental issues in my life. Monet knows I've had a lot of work done on my teeth. Some of y' all saw on Drag Race, I was missing this tooth. And this tooth, I used to be able to take a straw and string it between. You remember I used to do this, Mon.
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Yes, I remember.
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I would take a straw, close my teeth and go. Because I was missing my. My teeth just started, like. And it wasn't from not brushing or flossing. They just rotted. And they just. Like. I had to have them removed. Like, they just. My teeth just.
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Teeth are genetic. A lot of times, teeth issues are just genetic. It just happened.
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And it was just those two teeth. I don't know what. By the way, most of these teeth that you see in the front are my. Well, not the front. Okay? A lot of my teeth are fake. This. This one is fake. But I broke my. I've chipped that tooth four times.
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Yeah, we die.
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Can you believe I've chipped the same tooth four times? That's crazy. And then these three and these three. So I have seven fake teeth. These are bridges that I had to get put in because of my teeth that just decayed. It was just those two teeth that just for some reason, decided that like, we're, we're tapping out early. What's up, Jacob? Okay, Monet, if you're in the club and you're talking to a hot guy and you, like, go over, you know, to, like, blow him in an alley, do you have to pop your Invisalign out? Oh, the Invisalign girlies. So my friend Zach now has Visalign. Taylor, my office manager, has Visalign. This is my favorite thing about Invisalign.
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People.
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When you sit down to eat with an Invisalign girly, they'd be like, they be okay. Oh. Oh, my God. Oh, the food's here. This is so. All right. What do we have? Jalapeno poppers.
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Okay, so, Jacob, because I, I'm done with my Invisalign treatment, so I just wear retainers. I just wear my, my Invisalign at night now. I don't wear them during the day. There's been. But back before I would, I, I, I, I, I was not in the business of, of blowing people at the club, Jacob. I, I don't think. But you meet again, but not at the club. Jacob said, if you're in the club and I'm going to suck someone's dick in an alley, am I taking it out?
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I've never engaged in that. Blowing someone on a whim.
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No. Have you?
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Yeah, for sure. On a whim. Where? There was that one guy, the one time I hooked up in drag, a Lucky Changs. I blew that guy in the bathroom when me and that. You remember that ballet dancer I used to hang out with? This was before you. That ballet dancer. No, I remember me and the ballet dancer. We met at the club, me and you. Remember that time I told you about the guy wearing the kente cloth vest that, like, changed my vision of fashion? And he listened to. We listened to Lana Del Rey for the first time ever, he was on a whim. Most of my hookups have been through the Internet, but I've had maybe like, oh, there was also this. So I've had maybe like four or five hookups that were on a whim.
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Back when I was a local queen back in New York, I used to have a lot of on the whim sex I'm thinking about. But that wasn't Invisalign then. Since Invisalign, though, if I'm gonna hook up with someone, I'll take them out before they ever come out to come over. But I will say, towards the end of my Invisalign tenure, when I was still in Corrective. Invis. I blew Andy with Invisalign. I was like, you know, I just want to try with Invisalign on rearranged your whole shit.
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Oh, it was great.
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No, game changer, because, you know, you. There's no. It's basically like you. It's basically you blowing someone that just has gums. It's just. It's like. It's like. Which is. Honestly, I never been blown by someone, actually. No, that's not true. One time I was at a glory hole situation in Portland and this guy Bloomy, who just had. Who didn't. It was a gummy situation. I don't know why.
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Did he have teeth?
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No, but it was. Which.
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Wait, no, he didn't have teeth?
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No, he did not have teeth work.
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How was that? Did he have.
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It was great.
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Did he take them out or did he have teeth? Or did he have teeth, like, when you saw him?
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I didn't know it was a glory hole. So I don't know what was on the other side. I don't know what. I don't know.
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Girl, you better than me. I cannot stick my dick in a glory hole. This was.
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This is back when I used to live in Portland, girl.
B
Oh, back when you was in your. When you did opera?
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Yeah, back then.
B
What was the opera company called?
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Desperate. Huh?
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What was that opera company called?
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Portland Opera.
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That was the name of the opera company in Portland. So back to Drag Race.
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Oh, yeah. How do we get Jacob.
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So, you know, everyone rallies around, around Anya. Apparently, Anya has told Lexi about her condition. She's told Jules about her condition, and they're just like, that was fucked up. No one is on Arrietty's team. No one, including Arrietty.
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Well, like, the sucky thing about that whole thing, y', all, A. It was mean and nasty and low down dirty behavior. And people in the comments on Twitter, they were like, well, how was. How was Ariady supposed to know that? But I was like. I was like. But I was like, your mirror message is not your sign to attack other girls in the competition. Like, it just seemed like it was holding out. It seems unwarranted. And we find out later. Well, they're special. Speculating why Ariady said it because Anja was taking up for jewels and she was upset about that whole untucked situation. But I think it's completely uncalled for, because now, forever and ever, Anya Nerve will be known as a girl with the stank breath. Anya Nerve could get the newest freshest scented mint flavored teeth that have ever existed. She will always be the bitch with stank breath.
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I feel like if dentists did flavored teeth, it would affect the way all your food tastes.
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Yeah, for sure. Anyway, I will always be the kitty cat girl. Bob and I have talked about this for a million times. What you get known for on TV will follow you for the rest of your life.
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Yeah. I mean, I've gotten a lot better in my makeup over the years, but it doesn't matter. Monet can wear a wig the size of a house. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And it's really funny when people. Because you can tell who follows the girls from Drag Race, but doesn't really follow us off the show. People will be like, I just need Bob back on my tv. Y', all, I have been on two to three TV shows every year since I was on Drag Race.
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Right?
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Every year since Drag Race, I've been on at least two. Well, there were maybe a few years where. When I was doing Angels in America. No, even then, I am on at least minimum one show every year since RuPaul's Drag Race. So, y', all, I'm still on your TVs. I swear, Monet has had a whole ass TV show. A whole ass TV show. A queerty nominated TV show. But, you know, they think that. That we did Drag Race and then we went in a hold and died. Went in a butthole and died, you know?
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Yeah. Everyone's rallying around her so that. I love that all the girls rallied around her and they're like, yeah, that was not good. That was. That was uncalled for. That wasn't cool. And it's. Someone on Twitter was like, us calling out Eri's behavior of. Calling. Of. Of reading on. Let me get it.
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Yeah, please look it up, because I don't know what the hell you talking about. While you look that up, I will say this. So Arietti was on Instagram or TikTok Live, and someone was like, are you gonna apologize to Anya? And she was like, well, if I do, it'll be in private. And you know me. I've always said, if you do me dirty in private, you need to apol. In public. You need to apologize in public. You don't get to shame me at the party in front of everyone and then pull me to the. To the. To the broom closet and then apologize in there. If you did me dirty in front of people, you. For me. Maybe Anya Nerv is different. Maybe Anya is. Has a different understanding. But, like, if you do me dirty in front of people. You need to apologize in front of people. You did me dirty in front of, in my opinion.
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Yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree. But you know, they have, they have.
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They've squashed it.
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Yeah, they squashed. Everyone has moved on. But you know what? We're living in it right now. Okay?
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We're living in. I. I don't. I need a video.
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Would you really?
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Yes. You embarrassed me in front of the world. You. My medical condition that I'm really sensitive about in front of the world. I need an apology in front of the world. I've apologized in front of the world to people before. When I do something dirty and I do something wrong, I've apologized to people.
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If I play, can I, can I can. I did. I did. I have that experience.
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I have apologized to you. I don't think I will say. I do not know. I could think of maybe one time you've apologized, but you always do the thing where you say I don't apologize. I can name one time on this podcast you've apologized to me. I can. I literally cannot think of one outside of that. Can you think of one? Can you think of two?
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Yes, I think I know one.
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Can you name two?
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Bob, I apologize to you about the chip tooth.
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Yeah, that's one. That's the one I can think of. Can you name one more? One other apology? One.
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Bob, I know for a fact I've apologized several times.
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That's a good one. That's interesting. The only one I know is the chipped tooth. I literally cannot think of another apology you've ever made to me, but I've
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apologized to you several times on here. Anyway, moving on.
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Apologize for your whole existence. Start with that. This is crazy bitch. A burst pipe, a dead water heater, the AC calling it quits. Who do you call?
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Boyd in Florida. Lydia has won a challenge. She finally has a win. Short lived. She finally has a spoiler. She finally has a win. And then Sam is doing that thing again. I need Sam to get. Why is she irritating me so much? I don't get why. Why I'm so irritated by her.
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I think she just.
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I don't know. I don't know.
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People, people are upset. They're like, Bob, when they won't give Sam a break. They won't, they won't. Like, I'm like, they're right.
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I won't. Because she's, she's. Something about her is. I don't know what it is. She's doing well, but something about her, specifically in the area where they sit down after someone go about her personality in that specific spot is just, it does not. I don't like it. I don't like to look at it. I don't like to hear it. I don't like to hear this. Well, there's something about it that doesn't feel genuine and it irritates me to, to, to witness each week. That's my truth. I like her. Otherwise.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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This is not an ad.
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You told me, Rob. You told us about this 49 times.
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This Aquaphor.
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Aquaphor is a multi billion dollar company. You think, bitch, make them come to you.
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I'm just saying I like it. So the next day they come in. Anya has already forgiven Arrietty and y', all, they have not spoken. Y' all don't know when you're, when you're eliminated, you're gone. You are actually, you're, you don't see
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the girls is on the main stage. You don't see them any after that
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or until you go home and you look each other up.
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Right? Right. Yeah. Yeah. I don't see anyone else, y'.
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All. Yeah. And not only that, when we did our season, Naysha was the first one eliminated, but we still had to film the promo between episodes one and two. They sequestered Naysha from everyone, even during the filming. The only time she saw it was when she had to work with him on camera. And then after that, they took her away and made her sit by herself.
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I mean, they did for Vanjie and Keller as well. I have to say, Ani nerve. I think an earth definitely possesses a growth that I don't have because I don't think I would, I don't. I would not have been able to forgive Ariady the next day. It would. I, I, I, so I really admire her ability to be, to, to be the bigger person and move on. That is very admirable. But I don't think I possess that same thing.
B
Lexi saying she always has nightmares makes so much sense. This answers it. It's all so clear now. Lexi being like, I have nightmares every night. I'm like, you know what? That scans. That really scans for you.
A
And then she, she says about Susie, I'm like, girl, Susie lives rent free in Lexi's mind all the time. But Susie must have real estate in there. Well, the biggest, right?
B
The gag is Lexi's obsessed with Susie and. But she needs to be obsessed with Anya nerves and Jewel Sparkle. Like, girl, Suzy is not. I mean, we'll get to it in a second. But like, everyone naming Suzy y', all. Susie's not eating y' all up like that. Why are y' all obsessed with me?
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When I wrote we'll get into it. But I agree. I'm like, saying Suzy's the front runner is kind of crazy.
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And, you know, she's a front runner. She's not the front runner.
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She's not second or third. Everything that they said, I worry about. We talk about it in the tug. We're jumping around, but we'll. Yeah, we'll get to it later. I have a lot of thoughts and opinions about that.
B
So Jules and Lexi. I just want to say Jules and Lexi's workroom outfits are so cute.
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I didn't notice.
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Jules is wearing this, like, tan crop top, button up shirt with these, like, black leather. Black leather shorts. Such a cute look. And Lex is also wearing this black leather skirt with this, like, big blue fur faux fur or like feather it. They just. Y', all, I, I cringe. Y' all think I cringe at my makeup on season eight, Baby. My workroom.
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I don't remember what you had on. Did you have crazy outfits on?
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My workroom outfits were correct when I tell you I had never, not once turned to look in that workroom.
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It.
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I looked the way I used to look when I was sewing at home at 945Amsterdam Ave, Apartment 4C. You remember those little, those, those jeans that I cut into capris and sewed up the bottom of?
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I don't remember those.
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I wore those a lot of tank tops. I remember having them go to Old Navy to buy me clothes because I ran out of clothes to wear in the workroom. I literally had to ask production to go to Old Navy and buy. They were like, what do you get? I was like, I don't know. Tank tops. Just buy me some tank tops.
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Which is crazy because it's also freezing in there and you wanted tank tops?
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No, it was Monet. We were filming on different stages. I filmed here in Hollywood, our. On our side of the. So we, we filmed this big sound stage where they actually filmed I Love Lucy and It was so old that when RuPaul. The air conditioner could only work on one side at a time. So when RuPaul showed up, our air conditioner turned off. It got blistering hot. Blistering hot.
A
Yeah. Um, so Ru comes in and announces that the girls are doing Ross Matthews versus the Ducks. And as Bob was telling me earlier, apparently this is a big old thing with Phil Timor Hoffman played the role. I. I never. I've never heard of Schumacher.
B
That's the thing. So Capote is a movie where Philip Seymour Hoffman played Truman Capote.
A
Got it.
B
Capote versus the Swans was a Ryan Matthews production about Capote, who played in that one. Jacob. Ryan Murphy. Yeah. Let me look. So a different actor, because obviously, yeah, different production. But this was a. This was a. It's a spoof on a Ryan Murphy, Truman Capote, Tom Hollander. Tom Hollander, Yeah. Played Capote in this one.
A
Got it.
B
And he had a. And he had a really funny. I can't do his voice. But Capote had a very strange voice.
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Ross. Which is crazy, because Ross Matthews. You remember Ross used to have, like, the crazy, shrill, gay voice.
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It.
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It, like, went away. Remember this? Like, all those years when Ross Matthews used to be Chelsea Handler his first year of stand, he's like, yeah, like,
B
Ross Matthews sound like he's talking, like, here. Like, girl, Ross's voice is still very high. Maybe we're just used to it now.
A
No, no, girl, Ross. Babe.
B
Was he taking it then, or is he faking it now?
A
I don't know what it is, but at the beginning of Ross Matthews career, when I used to be. Watch Chelsea lately, Ross Matthews, I'm like, oh, my God, girl.
B
Yeah, it was that. To be fair, that's a pretty bad Ross Matthews. But to be fair, when I listen to my voice from 10 years ago, my voice sounds completely different. It sounds like the same person.
A
I'm telling.
B
But my voice has gotten much deeper over the years.
A
We know.
B
Yeah, I'm aware. My voice has gotten.
A
I have old voicemails of you when we first. When we first became friends. And y', all, like, right now, Bob, like, you kind of sit, like, here and like this in this song, back then, you're like, yeah, you were up here. You used to be really. To talk up here.
B
Well, I probably spoke more like this. My voice was probably in this register, and. But this feels like I'm really forcing it to talk like this. Like, it is. It's really. I'm forcing it, and I just can't. But I just I've also ruined my vocal cords. I've had surgery on my vocal cords. And I also used to have a much thicker Southern accent. I found. I'll find some. There's a post on my. On the patreon of my old voice. It was so high. I had such a thick Southern accent. I do not even sound like the same person.
A
Does my voice sound different to you?
B
No, you sound the same. But it's probably because you're better at protecting your voice. I don't protect my voice.
A
Well, Bob, start protecting your voice. You only get one.
B
I got surgery. What else do you want me to do? Jesus Christ.
A
So the girls are getting to pick their roles once again. And I think Sam has a right idea. Sam goes in. This is where her personality really works for her. She goes and said, I want this role, this role I'm doing.
B
And Susie is a fucking pushover. Every time she's wanting a role, she just gives it up.
A
Yeah, I wish she did stick to her ground more. But also. But also, when the entire cast is like, no. When everyone else on set, when Lana literally is like, who says anything about being fair? And like, when Lexi's like, no, we're not giving to her, like, what do you. What do you. What are you gonna do, Monet?
B
What do you think I would fucking do? You think I would let these bitches take a role from me? Bitch? I fought for the role for that. Me, Betty and Thorgy, we fought for that fucking role. I was not gonna.
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The cookie, the street meats.
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Art.
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Oh, art.
B
Oh, yeah, we want art. Art. Art. Art.
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Art.
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I concocted a plan. I made them fight against each other. I was like. I remember looking at Thor, G, and Betty and being like, don't worry, girls, we're getting art. I assure you, when this is said and done, we're gonna have art. And we did. You do what you gotta do to get what you wanna get, honey.
A
I also love that Lexi is very self aware. She's like, I. She's like, I know I need to lean on physical comedy to do a good job in this. In this. In this thing. And I'm like, that's very, very, very smart.
B
Is she?
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Yes.
B
It wasn't that physical. She did a good job. I remember being like, wow, this is some physical. They all. They all did the role on the ground. Except Jules.
A
True. But I think that. I think her. I think once she said that, I think she. I think what she meant was having a prop. Something to be like a thing.
B
You know what I Mean, that's not physical comedy, but sure.
A
I mean, I think. I think that's what she's. That's. That's what she means.
B
Got it. So Lana wants to attach herself to Anya, which I think is very smart. See, Lana is not intimidated by girls. Talent. Lana really was like, I want to be near the girls that have the talent, which I think is a smart thing, you know?
A
Yeah, yeah, I think so too. And Zuzie, Jules and Susie, they both won the Royal Chicago, which I think. I think the world of Chicago, obviously is an iconic monologue. Like we all know. I mean, not we all know.
B
A lot of us know that.
A
Do I? What?
B
Can you do it for us?
A
Yeah, pretty much. I will let Jemma know that she's a fat cunt. And the shoes that she gave me were not something particular I. I would buy for myself. They were all made in type of shoes. And if that's.
B
She said those shoes are made to be worn on a beautiful woman. So if that's the case, she should have put them back on the rack and she should never even purchase them.
A
Purchased them.
B
It is. Yeah.
A
She.
B
She's that qualified to own.
A
I think Gemma is just a disgrace.
B
She's a disgrace to women. She's disgraced to women who are actually beautiful. Somebody lied to her several times. I love that part. Somebody lied to her several times.
A
Sexy. Hot. Beauty hood. Sexy.
B
But she's nothing like that.
A
She's nothing of the sort, y'. All. I need to know. I want to interview Tiffany Pollard so bad. Was that off the dome? Oh, was this premeditated?
B
I've been interviewed by. I've been interviewed by her before. I did brunch with Tiffany. There's interview.
A
Yeah, it's still on YouTube.
B
You did it too?
A
Yeah.
B
Why did you ask her?
A
Because she was interviewing me. Oh, also, I don't think that was. I think it had happened already, but it wasn't popularized like how it is yet.
B
So you did a different thing or you did a specific thing specifically brunch with Tiffany.
A
I did brunch with Tiffany.
B
Bring brunch with Tiffany back. That show was so fucking funny.
A
So good, y'.
B
All. The one she did with Shirley Ralph is one of the. When I met Shirley Ralph, I had to bring up brunch with Tiffany. Shirley Ralph.
A
Wait, why was it crazy?
B
Because Shirley Ralph is so intentionally classy and New York is so intentionally. Not that it was like an aunt with her, like, dog with her niece who is just, like, wild and rambunctious and, like, talking about Dirty stuff. And somehow Shirley Ralph managed to have fun with it, but always rise above the filth. It was very impressive and so amazing.
A
I need to watch it.
B
They're a really fun duo together.
A
Do you think it was off the dome or do you think it was premeditated?
B
I think it was off the dome. I don't think that. I don't think that. I don't know New York like that, but I don't think Tiffany Pollard goes in with monologue. I don't think she sits at home and writes monologues. I think she's very good extemporaneously.
A
That's crazy that it literally is an art. Honestly, that shit was.
B
So they both want to be Chicago. And everyone rallies against Susie, which no one is over. No one's doing this against Anya, who is kicking Yalls asses.
A
Yeah.
B
Maybe that's a testament to the fact they just like Anya and they just don't like Susie. Maybe they just don't really care much for Susie. Is that a possibility?
A
I think that's what it is. I think it's. It's. It's. It's above just doing well in the competition. Suzy is very boisterous and vocal about how much better she thinks that she's in everyone. I think that's how stupid everyone else is. Yes. I think that's why it gets everyone they wanted. They want. They don't. They wanted to have peace.
B
Yeah. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't let Jules have that role. I'd have been like, we need to audition or something.
A
We need to do.
B
We need to arm wrestle.
A
We need to.
B
We need to rock, paper, scissors. We gotta. We gotta pick one through 10. Even if we leave it a chance would be better than me just giving you the role.
A
Giving it to you. Yeah. Agreed.
B
So when they get. When they start working on it. Lana, is. There seems to be this narrative about Lydia and Sam not liking each other. And I did not know about this. Did you know about this?
A
I think it's playful. It's because when.
B
When their style, they don't like. They don't like each other's style.
A
Yeah. And then also when Lydia was vocal about Sam not doing as good. When. When. When the rate of Queen results came out and Sam found out Lydia rated her so low. I think that's when it started.
B
Yeah. I just didn't pay much into it. But. But I'm sure if it was me, I would have. If. If I was Sam, I would have been like, oh, I Remember this shit?
A
Yeah, for sure.
B
These clips cutting back to Jules coughing are sending me to the moon. I don't know why it's so funny. It's like they're showing all the girls working together, and they cut back to Jules, and she's like, pretty much, I will let out. And it just keeps cutting back to Jules just coughing. And I don't know why I was. I was sitting here watching it cackling at this girl. Just. It was just. It was so funny to me.
A
I really like Jules, but we do. See? But to you, what you were saying earlier, Sam and Lydia, they are working together when they are. When they're organized, organizing, practicing the slaps. Their hands are so far from each other's faces. I'm like, y', all. It has to be. It has to look. They are a mile apart. I'm like, it has to look believable. It's ridiculous.
B
What's. Fun and games until RuPaul slaps AJ O', Hara, right?
A
Remember when you and I were doing some number and it involved you slapping me, but I kept on going in the direction of. I was going into your head.
B
Like, Monet supposed to be like this. And Monet was supposed to do this. Monet would go, ugh. And I came in like, bitch. How does that make sense? Monet was like, ugh. Ugh. I would punch. She'd be like, ugh. I would uppercut. She'd be like, ugh. I was like, what?
A
That was so. You're like, monet, you have to go in the direction I'm hitting. You gotta go into my.
B
Which is welcome. Like, Monet is very coordinated. I don't know why this was y'. All. Her last two brain cells trying to piece it together.
A
That was funny.
B
So okay, again, my God, I love Anya and Lana's looks in the challenge.
A
I. Yeah, they're really cute.
B
But also the whole bit is that who has the fattest ass? Lana's wearing a fake ass, but she never shows it. She, like, kind of opens the coat to show it a little bit. I'm like, girl, the whole. This is. This is one of the moments where I'm like, either Lana doesn't get it, or she. Or her. Or her vanity won't allow her to do something that's. That's not what she wants to do. Like, girl, the whole. They keep talking about your ass, and you never, ever show your ass. That's crazy to me.
A
I think that. I think it's two things. I think her poise a little. What you're saying, like, keeps her from really going there because she's always trying to look like this, like, sexy fy fashion supermodel.
B
And she did.
A
And she did. I think that keeps over there also. I was guilty of this. The first improv challenge on season 10. Like, I was afraid to overact and be like, so crazy. That's why I stumbled in that challenge. Cause I was like, I'm just like. Literally, I was like, this is like a real acting role thing to like, not be so like. I was like. But when you're on Drag Race, the key is overacting and being ridiculous. Think about Cookie's empire with bombing them. They're literally fighting with brooms and doing like. It is, it is. It has to border on absurdity.
B
You guys, you're not at Juilliard. You're at amda, ok? You're at amda. That's what you need to be doing.
A
So for all the season 18 and 19 girls, like, when you do an acting challenge, don't. Do not treat this like you are auditioning for a Meryl Streep role in the fucking Bridges of Madison County. The revival. You are doing like, what the fuck
B
is Bridges of Madison County? You mean August Osage County?
A
Yeah, August Osage County.
B
Oh, I mean, Bridges of Madison county is also a Tony winning, award winning music, but not with Meryl Streep. It was the same movie. Yeah.
A
You gotta be absurd. You honestly. The Alyssa Edwards school of bigger. Bigger. It works on Drag Race. Just be absurd, be wild.
B
Um, when. When they, when they're fighting and Lana's titty moves down to her stomach, I wish she would have stopped and said, don't hit me, I'm with child. I kept thinking I would have been like, I'm with child.
A
That would have been. That. Would that have been a funny little bit to add. But I think if she, if she would have. If she would have met Anya's energy, I think it would have really turned a tide for her. But she just was. Because Anya was so big and so extra and she was always just a little. She was being buried by Anya.
B
This. I know I keep going on about the looks that, that aren't being judged, but this look on Lydia, baby, I love this fucking. This is my favorite thing Lydia has ever worn on this show.
A
Oh, wow.
B
That's a lot of feelings. Black velvet and this like jeweled. And the Glo. Ah, she looks so good.
A
Her jewels sparkle.
B
Yeah, the. The jewels did sparkles. She looked great. Um, but how do you feel about Their scene.
A
Um, I think their scene is fine. I don't think it's groundbreaking. I don't think it. I. I think. But honestly, no one did terribly. Yeah, I don't think anyone did terribly. So I think it just. It just pales in comparison to the ones that are really bright. But I think it's good they're doing. They're hitting all the beats, and they're doing a good job.
B
When Lexi and Susie walked out, the first thing I said was, I typed, whose African American wig is Susie wearing?
A
Sabotage, Anya nerve. No, I don't want you to give that girl that wig. She should have or told her to clean the lace on that wig.
B
I mean, it's not about cleaning it. The lace, you know, lace comes dark. You can't clean if you get one of those. If you get a lace from, like, an actual store as opposed to online, those laces are dark. In my experience, the white lace comes from the Internet and the black lace comes from the wig store.
A
Kind of a big store. Yeah, I would have asked. Can I. Can I. Can I turn the lace back? Do you mind?
B
Also, so Sam wears blonde wigs. Lydia wears blonde wigs.
A
I was also going to say, and of all the blonde wigs, you pick that one. The one that that girl wore in that. In that white Satan's liturgical dancer outfit. That wig, you was like, oh, of all the blonde wig, I want that hideous one.
B
Do you think that Susie Toot is known for making great wig choices? What wig choice? She does make some very great costuming choices. I will give her that. What wig choice would you be like? Damn. Another hit from Susie Toots.
A
You know, I would say her little octopus one was cute.
B
I can't remember the wig, but my favorite look is still the Iron Maiden. That look was. She looks fantastic in that look, but there was no wig on it. Um, Lexi and Susie want their scenes to fail. They want their scene partner to fail. Like, Lexi loves that Susie's doing poorly at certain points, or. No, Lexi wants Susie to do poorly, and Susie loves that Lexi is doing poorly. That's crazy, girl.
A
It's a competition, though, honestly. But, I mean, do. Okay, here's the question. When it's challenging like this, do you think your. Do you think your partner doing poorly reflects on you?
B
I think that if you're. If you're acting or if you're trying to do comedy with someone who can't do it, it can't help you in a scene. Now, I would. I understand. If someone who you're not in a scene with is doing poorly, and you get some schadenfreude from that. But wanting your actual scene partner, the one you have to work with, to do poorly, that's crazy to me because that cannot benefit you.
A
I disagree. Sometimes in Drag Race, I was happy that my scene partner was poorly.
B
Who was your C partner that did poorly?
A
Like when we did Breast World one Aquarium was other.
B
The way I have blocked Breast World. I think Breast World was probably one of the worst written scripts in the history of. Of. It's not on y'. All. It's not on y'. All. Breast World was one of the worst scripts that Drag Race has ever pumped out. True.
A
Think so.
B
I think their best one was Daytona wins.
A
You liked Daytona win this one?
B
Great. It was a gag on the girls because the girls didn't know they were farting. That was so. That was honestly, in my opinion, when it comes to their writing. And 921hoe was actually really good, too.
A
I don't remember that one.
B
And. And the. The Ruko's Empire, the one we did with. With my season. Those are all great. I think the one from All Stars 7 was really good, too. Which one was that one? The Krispan Academy one. Just because all of those girls were really killing it, so it seemed that wasn't good. I remember it being good.
A
No, I've definitely been in a scene. I've been like, when my scene partner doing bad in Drag Race, not in real life, I'm like, yes.
B
You know, which one was horrible? I think it might be the worst one. I can't remember what it was about, but I just remember being like. I remember thinking to myself, this has to end. And then it actually went into commercial and they came back and the scene was not the rehearsal, the scene.
A
Which one?
B
It was the one that. It was from the season where Kylie one All Star.
A
I didn't see that one.
B
This scene. Oh, the American Horror Story 1. Hot garbage. Hot, hot, stinky, smelly, nasty garbage.
A
I don't see. You know, I need to watch. You know, I just. I was filming during my All Star seven, so I never watched Season six.
B
You're fine, you're fine. Don't, don't, don't. Go back and watch it. You're good. Shakespeare. I don't think Shakesqueer was written poorly. I think they did a bad job at it, in my honest opinion. So Jules is getting sleepy while the other girls. Wait. That is so real, y'.
A
All.
B
When I did Tales of the City, Tales of the City. I was in my trailer in full drag, full dragoons, sleeping like Nosferatu girl. Well, first, just laying down. I didn't start off sleeping. And then I would have to wake up. And y'. All. Something about me, I don't know what it is, but when I wake up, my eyes and my nose start running immediately. Immediately upon a nap or asleep, my eyes and my nose are just running. Monae's seen it. Jacob's seen it. I'm walking around with tissue on my nose when I first wake up. It's something that's happened in my life. In my 30s, y', all, I'm sitting here wearing. If I was wearing this red pleather outfit that Domino made me. And Domino makes torture devices Anyone who's ever wanted
A
Domino will make again. Y', all, y' all know the most beautiful, amazing clothes. You will be uncomfortable in that outfit from the moment you put it on until you take it off.
B
No. And then in a couple hours, after, too. Like, you could say, domino, I need a T shirt. When I tell you it will be the best T shirt you ever had in your life. But, baby, you will need three people to put it on.
A
Yeah.
B
And it will be. He made me a caftan once. Why does my caftan have boning in it? I wish I was kidding, Monet. Answer that. I want an answer. Why did my caftan have boning in it?
A
But you look so good.
B
I look great. That outfit won an Emmy. That specific outfit won an Emmy.
A
Yeah. Yeah. Domino's again. It's amazing, and I'm so grateful. But, bitch, you will have a fucking balloon dress on.
B
And you are under it.
A
You are.
B
Yeah. Snatched. So her getting sleepy while waiting for a senior partner. That is very, very real. But why is she tongue popping but
A
also, bitch, sleeping when you don't know your lines?
B
True that.
A
Falling asleep and not knowing your lines by heart is crazy. Also, you're doing a scene that in your mind, you know what the real thing is. So now you have to play this thing in your brain about not saying what you know. The line. The real lines are and doing what's on the page. So, girl, not sleeping and not knowing your lines is crazy.
B
To be fair, falling asleep and going to sleep are not the same thing.
A
In a competition, if you fall asleep, you fall asleep.
B
No, we all have friends that fall asleep and can't help themselves. Nick. Not anymore. Nick doesn't do anymore. But Nick used to fall asleep. Do you remember the one? Nick used to fall asleep everywhere.
A
No.
B
Jacob remembers. I have. I have A whole Instagram story. Highlight of Nick just sleeping. Places we be at shows, he just fall asleep. I guess maybe he. I don't know. Maybe he fixed his problem. He don't do it no more.
A
That's something wrong with me. When I go. When I. There's. I can watch a TV show, I will fall asleep every time, y'. All. The amount of times I've been trying to make my way through. Through a season or something, and I have to watch episode three and four times because I just cannot stay awake.
B
But Jules's tongue popping is irritating me because, like, New York does not tongue pop. That's not a part of. Yeah, New York does.
A
But I think she's trying to overact and she's act. She's adding to sasaeng to be, like, bigger.
B
Yeah, but, like, have you seen New York go? Pretty much. I will let Jimma know that she is a fat cunt. And, like, that's not. She does not. That's not girl. We gotta expand our lexicon of humor and you know isms when we sprinkle it into our acting on Drag Race.
A
Lexicon is your favorite word, y'. All. If I had a dollar for every time I heard Bobby's the word lexicon.
B
If I had a dollar for every time you said sas on, we'd both be rolling in the dub, wouldn't we?
A
You love a lexicon.
B
You love Sarah. The satsang in lexicon would be.
A
We be.
B
We both be living in mansions.
A
You love a lexicon.
B
Let's go to the makeup.
A
Ooh, makeup mirror. Nothing crazy happened here.
B
Yeah. Everyone feels good. Everyone's feeling really good. They did a freestyle, and honestly, Sam did the best it was. I know.
A
I was. I was a little shocked that Sam was doing a good job. That's. Cause her uncle is Niles Barkley.
B
No, not Nars Barkley. Are you joking?
A
What? No. What?
B
Gnarles Barkley is a group. Charles Barkley is a basketball player.
A
I meant CeeLo Green.
B
Gnarls Barkley. CeeLo Green is not Gnarles Barkley. Gnarls Barkley is CeeLo Green and dead mouse together doing. I think you're crazy.
A
I mean, what do you think of
B
what do you think of that? That sounded really good. Can you acknowledge that?
A
Please let me hear one more time.
B
I think you're crazy.
A
Come on, Vibrato. You know you have a faster.
B
You crazy.
A
Just.
B
Okay, I can't do the just like me part, but the first time I did, it sounded better when you.
A
Because you have a Faster. When you. When you. When you vibrato. When you. When you vibrate, you have a faster Brato. People with faster bottles can riff very well. If you could. If you could get your tone together, you'd probably be a good riffer.
B
That. That was a read. I. I'm like, snow White. Snow White has a very fast vibrat.
A
Does she?
B
You don't remember Snow White? She has, like, all those.
A
That's not a vibrato, babe.
B
No, she goes, I didn't do it. But she goes. She goes. She has a. Snow White has a passive bra. It's like her whole thing. Like, she has a. It's a whole thing. Go listen to Snow White. The original Snow White.
A
I think those are trills, but okay.
B
Well, n. Trill my nuts. How about that?
A
Shall we get into the Runway looks?
B
Oh, wait. I want to say that. What do you do when things go wrong? Oh, this thing is gone. It's coming. Those are birds.
A
No, that's not a passive Brato Does. She's trilling with her voice anyway, so.
B
Okay, we're good. So.
A
No.
B
So Lana Jarret was the rap king of her elementary school. She has since lost all of those skills. Can you freestyle for us real quick?
A
What? Give me. I need a topic.
B
I need you to freestyle about your favorite sandwich. Ok. Give yourself a beat.
A
Sitting on the block and I'm looking real cute Having my Subway. Ooh, Susie toot coming my way with some ham and some cheese. Ah, nah, I want to suck some bees. Bees in the trap. Bees in the trap.
B
Okay, now you're just. Now you're just plagiarizing. I thought a freestyle rapper was right there. Oh, yeah. But I'm like, no, I want to put bumblebees in my mouth.
A
My brain doesn't think. I can't. We know you freestyle. Give us a freestyle about. About gophers.
B
Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. Bob the drag Queen got one thing to say. Bitches is not Groundhog Day. We talking about gophers. Put on your loafers. We gonna go down and get your chauffeur. We gonna drive down to the mother parking range, and then we're gonna go to the golfing range. And all you acting kind of strange and. And a. Like, Lydia's kind of deranged. Now the gophers go in the hole, they pop back up, and then they slide down the pole. They make the bucks, they make the dollar. They make the stars. Okay, that's all I got. That's good. So let's go to the Runway category is black and Bob Ra.
A
Y', all. Bob always does you. You get Nicki Minaj. You be like, you got real Nicki Minaj.
B
Nicki is my mommy. My daddy's Eminem. That's a Mikey Angelo reference. Let's go on to the looks category is black and white ball. You know I love it. You know I love to wear black and white.
A
RuPaul looks so cute. I love this outfit on RuPaul.
B
Yeah. I don't know what you would call this collar. Apparently you don't say Mandarin collar anymore. There's like a new name for it and I like it.
A
Wait, why don't you call it Mandarin? Is it offensive?
B
Apparently, yeah.
A
Got it. Oh, I love Michelle's outfit as well.
B
That's, that's, that is. I'm pretty sure there's a Rick Owens dress and Nikki Garcia wore it on the the reunion of of Traders, except it was green and it was full length. This Rick Owens dress, to be fully honest, is pretty overdone right now. Do you remember when there's that mood catsuit like two seasons ago that all the girls are wearing? Not specifically, but I believe you. But this Rick Owens dress is everywhere. It's. Yeah, I have an outfit like what Ross is wearing. In fact, I'm wearing, In fact, bitch, it is literally right behind me. I'm wearing it tonight. The fact that I literally have this outfit
A
work, it's probably from Ross's line, y'.
B
All.
A
Ross sent me some pants from his line. Honestly, eight for all the, for all the thick bodied girls out there that got a lot of cake and stuff. They're, they're a thick, thick, thick knit. So they stretch and they hug. I love Ross.
B
Ross got a fat booty.
A
I don't, I don't know, but his pants are made for bitches with fat booties.
B
Work.
A
You know, Ross is married, okay? Put some respect on his husband's fucking name.
B
So. Ok. Does Ross's husband have a fat booty?
A
I don't know.
B
Oh, married people can have fat asses,
A
but I don't think his husband appreciates just talking about Ross's ass like that.
B
Let his husband speak for himself. And if his husband want to run hands, meet me outside. How about that? Everyone looks great. All the judges look great. Let's go. Actually, to be honest, everyone looks pretty good today. Let's go into these looks.
A
Yeah, let's go.
B
You know, love a clown.
A
I know you love a clown. And I thought this was good.
B
Yeah, this is great. I like, I Like this look. I love this jester idea. I love her makeup, I love her hair. There's not a, there is not a part of this outfit that. Well, actually, the only part that I don't really in particular of is right beneath the stripes, between the stripes at the bottom that like floral. Is it like a art? It's like a paisley slash shell. I don't know what it is, but, but it's not upsetting. This is a great look. And I, and I think she looks
A
really good out of all this is great. I would almost prefer it if it was a catsuit. If the same thing just with two legs instead of the gown, I think would have been maybe a little more interesting. But I think she looks great.
B
That's literally my outfit.
A
Yours was. You didn't have the ruffles, you didn't have the mash. You didn't have the.
B
I didn't have ruffles, but I had the big hair. I had the clown face. These bitches want to be me so bad. Sam, you will never be me.
A
I can't with you. Let's go on to Lana Jarret. I love this outfit. I thought this was really cool.
B
Well, you know, this is, you know that, that this is. I, I, I, I, I don't wear, I don't. I'm doing something I never do. Lana says this is new for her now.
A
I thought it was kind. I thought this was really beautiful. Also her make. She has such beautiful makeup. Her face is always stamped and gorgeous and perfect.
B
How much of it is the paint and how much of it is the canvas? She just has a beautiful face.
A
She does have a beautiful face. She's a very beautiful person.
B
I, I love this out something I love. She goes, the hair is made completely of hair. Did she say that? I think what she meant was these little bows or hair. But instead what she said was the hair is made completely of hair.
A
But I think it was really nice. I love the sleeves on this. I love the cut of the dress. I love having the polka dot tights matching the gloves. I thought this was really. Well, I love the, the str. I, I love this. Love, love, love, love, love it.
B
The little panty poking out. She looks great.
A
Yeah, I love this.
B
And they're not.
A
Jay didn't like it. I said, jay, you're crazy.
B
And they're not just poking out. They're, they're flat. They're flat back spherical beads. They're like.
A
Are they. I didn't notice that.
B
Yeah, they are. They're like, they're like 3D.
A
Yeah. Jay wasn't into it. Can you believe that?
B
Yes, I believe it. For Jay. JB Having some. Some twisted opinions.
A
I agree.
B
So it's going to on your nerve. I. I like this look. You don't like. You don't like it?
A
No, it's not even black and white.
B
It's grayscale.
A
Yeah, it's not. That's not the prompt. And I think the dress is too short. I don't love the secrets on the short. And I just. And again, I think she's kind of doing a nod to Bjork's swan thing in a different way. But other than the fascinator, I don't love anything else about this dress.
B
I used to have a swan dress back in the day when I first started drag. My roommate made a swan dress. Heine Lebrunks made a swan.
A
Like the Bjork one?
B
Yep.
A
Oh, the very one. Did you wear it?
B
Yeah, I used to wear it. I used to wear it. Too much work, you know, you start dragging. You got three outfits and don't. And don't compliment one, because, baby, I'll wear it until the wheels fall off. Let's go on to Lydia. Lydia's puppetry is always a little off. Like, Lydia's puppetry. Like, if these hands could have been stiff, but like the idea that your hands are too long, but, like, all I see is where your actual wrist is.
A
That's what you're saying.
B
She could have even had a stick in there. She could have even held a stick and stuffed the hands so that her hands would actually look really long.
A
I mean, that being said, I love this. I love the mix of the fur with this fabric underneath. I love that she could barely walk. Like, it was all obviously very intentional. I love this. I think she looked beautiful. This was. This is my favorite thing I've seen Lydia B. Collins wear the entire season. I love, love this.
B
I love the hair. I love this hair.
A
It was really cool.
B
I also love Lana's hair. That's completely made of hair. Let's go on to Susan Tooth.
A
Susie is such a diverse artist when it comes to the fashion. I just would not. I did not think this was going to be her story this season, but I thought this was a really interesting and cool lurk. I love this collar thing. Her neck looks 91ft long. I wish she would have cinched a waist a little bit more. But other than that, I love, love, love this.
B
She actually didn't even have a cinch. The waist. All she had to do was stop the. The. The trim for the waist. Like, if it. If the. If the trim stopped right below the boobs and then the trim picked up again. Right. But like, around the belly button, the. The drag queen belly button, which, as we all know, is a little bit higher than your real belly button, near her natural hips. I think this could have been a really, really great look. But also, that being said, yeah, this is a great look. She looks really good. I even love the. The fringe. Fringe.
A
Yeah, that was really cool.
B
Let's go on to Lexi Love, who's doing a. You know, me and monetary have this chat the other day. First of all, I just want to say I love this look. Is there pink in there?
A
No, that's just the background coming off of it.
B
I love this look. Just start with that. But when I found out that it was a Mugler knockoff, that really irritated me.
A
I don't even know. How is this. How is this Mugler now called?
B
She said it on the Runway?
A
Oh, I didn't hear that. I. And I don't like this look.
B
I thought the hair can find the image. Jacob, can you find the Mugler of this? If you can't understand.
A
But yeah, I thought the hair was crazy.
B
I like this hair.
A
What.
B
What's wrong with this hair?
A
Girl, this hair look wild.
B
Can you give me anything besides wild?
A
The shit shape of it. It feels off. I don't know what these barnacle flower florets are supposed to be. Is that a crown? Is this a tr. Does she put on into the hair?
B
Maybe she's a fan.
A
What?
B
Maybe she's a parvity fan.
A
I was confused by that, and I just don't like the shape of it. And like the rooted gray or bl. Or super dingy blonde. I. I was not into it didn't work. Oh.
B
Oh. It's not a knockoff. It's just inspired.
A
Yeah.
B
Okay. That's fine.
A
I will say the Mugler picture we're seeing right now. I like that.
B
Well, Monet and I were having this conversation of the day when you.
A
By the other day. She meant this morning.
B
This morning, when you knock something off, it's not. It's. Y'. All these couture ateliers are. They are spending months and dozens of thousands of dollars making these. These insane pieces. So it's not going to look as good when you do it if you don't have the resources they have or the skills that they have. So it's always gonna end up looking a little off, a little wonky it's like the lobster dress we keep seeing on Drag Race. What was the one you said we keep seeing? Monae?
A
The Chimera.
B
The Chimera, or if anyone's ever seen. There was. There was a period of time where folks were really obsessed with. With doing McQueen's oyster dress.
A
Oh, yeah, there was a period of
B
time, and it just doesn't look as good. And you'll always be. You'll always be referencing that. So it was something like when Katt Williams said, you know, there was a car that. I think Chevy made, a car that kind of looked like a Phantom. I can't remember what it was a whole bit. And he was like, you feel like you're in a Phantom until someone pulls up next to you in a Phantom, right? You know?
A
Yeah.
B
But, yeah, I do like this look, though.
A
Let's go on to Jules. Sparkle. She ate. She chewed. Swallow. This was so cool.
B
Jules is such a good drag queen.
A
She really is. She's a drag queen. Drag queen, too. Like, she's. She's a. I've been her performances, and this look is so cool. This, like, 2D thing. Sorry. This cartoon situation, it was all just so well done. She looks. It's giving pop art.
B
I feel like this is Jeffrey Kelly.
A
It is Jeffrey Kelly.
B
I know.
A
How'd you know?
B
I love when you can spot a designer.
A
How'd you know?
B
It just looks like Jeffrey Kelly. It just looks like something Jeffrey Kelly would make the collar, the bottom of the jacket, the way that it goes over the hip, the way it curves over the hip. And Jeffrey Kelly does this thing where he's really good at incorporating the bottom of the garment of the jacket. If you're wearing, like, a gown with a jacket that you can still see the hips and it doesn't cover them up in a great way. He's really good at shape. Does Jules not wear titties?
A
I think they're doing it for the. She does. I think they're doing it for the effect so it fits so it looks flat.
B
She didn't wear them in the challenge either.
A
I haven't noticed that.
B
Yeah, she was wearing. She didn't wear titties. Cause sometimes when girls wear pads but no titties, it looks kind of crazy to me.
A
Uh, I don't in this one because. Because this is obviously meant to be seen from straight on. Straight on. It worked. But seeing it from the side a little bit, it does throw off the illusion a little bit.
B
I do love. There's two cats on the Runway. And honestly, They're. They're the two best looks.
A
Oh, yeah, I agree. Yeah, she's like a sphinx or whatever.
B
No, that's. That sphinx has hair. I mean, you're. As we know sphinx can have hair. We found out someone. Someone shaved a cat, sold it to Monet and told her. Was told her it was a sphinx. She believed him. Who's your favorite look of the. Of the night?
A
I'm gonna go with Lana Jarret. I really like this look. Yeah.
B
I'm gonna give it to Jules Sparkles.
A
Jules is a close second for me. She looks amazing.
B
So let's get into the challenge.
A
I think Anya bodied. It is. She is just in every turn. There's not a single aspect besides not even design. Cause she won or she was top in the design challenge this season. She is just. What was she in the bottom? Oh, yeah. She was in the bottom for that one. The one. The pink one. Well, not in the bottom, but anyway, there's not an aspect. There are almost no aspects of competition that she does not excel and shine and is just fucking glowing and fierce. And this one was. It was just her physical. All the comedy that she did was just so fucking good. She's such an impressive drag queen.
B
I agree. And I actually don't think on. On Lana was that bad. I will say they did all do well. I don't think Lana should have been in the bottom. I do like the look down, look up, look down, look up that they did. There was a moment where they both kept looking down and looking up at the. I think the ass pads. I thought it was really, really funny. But I do think that Lana should have showed her ass. Do you. I don't know if maybe Sam does know the Whitney reference to. It's not right, but it's okay. But something about it wasn't playing. Like, it's either. Like she didn't know, or maybe she could. She. I don't know what it was.
A
Yeah. I think Sam is also really young. Maybe she really just didn't get it. She's young. She's like 22, 23.
B
Yeah, possibly. It's possible. I was talking to someone very young the other day. They didn't know. I can say who it was. He's not that young. He's 27 on his birthday. Mikey didn't know that. He didn't know that. Just that Justin Timberlake was in nsync.
A
What?
B
He was listening to nsync. He was like, my God. This, this. Who is this? I was like, oh, it's in sync he was like, oh. Cause it sounds like Justin Timberlake work. And then he was. I was like. Not only was. I was like, NSYNC was probably the biggest boy band in American history. He goes, not bigger than One Direction. I was like. I felt like they were bigger than One Direction.
A
No, I think maybe One Direction may have been bigger, girl.
B
I mean, Billboards would like to argue
A
with you whether NSync is bigger than them.
B
They have more number ones and stuff.
A
What about. What about Backstreet Boys?
B
NSYNC was bigger than Backstreet Boys.
A
Were they?
B
For sure?
A
Oh, I don't know.
B
I would say the biggest boy band in history. Probably the Beatles, but they're not American, right?
A
Yes. I thought Anya. Really? Yeah. Probably just doesn't know. And I think that Jules struggled because she didn't. She wasn't even. She wasn't. She wasn't doing enough of the role.
B
Like, you have.
A
You have. You are on stage very similar to us, Ms. Forgot you're on stage by yourself, bitch. Be like, make it big bigger. Be the character. Get crazy.
B
The funniest joke of the entire script was lower your voice going straight into asmr. That is genuinely. That is so funny to me. Um, but I wish they did more ASMR tropes. I wish they were like,
A
yeah, those. Yeah, I think that you.
B
I cannot believe that you would actually say something so offensive about me.
A
That was funny. Yeah. If they would have done some more of this stuff, I agree.
B
That would have been better. Was that good asmr?
A
Well, we couldn't hear the nail clicking you were doing. We don't hear that, girl.
B
I don't have nails and I have a pad on my thing. Yeah, but with the.
A
Yeah, I was wanting to do some asmr. Do you, like. Listen, do you like watching mukbangs with asmr?
B
Those are different things.
A
When they have a whole plate of food and they. What's the difference?
B
Oh, but I don't think mukbangs are. Are specific to. I think people do mukbangs in asmr. But the mukbang is not about the. The. No, I've seen a pickle lady who eats pickles and, like, does that. But yeah, I've seen ASMRs where they're just clicking their nails and, like, making noise. They. They do. They put, like, glue on the. They cover the microphone in tape and then rub glue on the tape. There's this one girl who does it here in la, and whenever I see her online, she has, like, some. Sometimes up to 15,000 people just sitting there listening to her.
A
What does it feel there?
B
I think that it's relaxing. Some people fall. She does it late at night, and people actually fall asleep to it.
A
Wow. I feel like I can get into something like that, but I just don't know what it is. What is. What is my niche?
B
You know, I don't think it's your passion. I think you've already found your thing, so just do your thing.
A
No, but I, like. I think I have a great, soothing voice. I would love to just be on there and, like, I don't know.
B
All right, can you give us a preview?
A
Yes, I can give you a preview. So I'm here just, you know, taking off my drag. I'm taking off my lashes.
B
Yeah. They make noise with your mouth. They like the noise with the mouth.
A
Can I think that, you know, I'm putting on my pair eyewear glasses. This.
B
You rub it softly across the thing. Softly.
A
That's called Bear baby.
B
Rub it up and down. Get the ridges.
A
Yeah.
B
You don't have the right microphone.
A
You need to know.
B
But honestly, I support you, and I want to help you achieve your dreams of being the next James Earl Jones and the next big ASMR person.
A
Thank you, Bob. I appreciate that.
B
I would love to bring any way I can.
A
Did you agree with the winner, Anya?
B
So we're going to the judges. Oh, I have another thing about the challenge. I think that. Oh. So I wish that Jules would have done her monologue confessional style. Like, I would have been thinking. She grabbed Ross's camera, put it on a tripod, sat down in a chair, and did it straight up. Like, the way.
A
Or.
B
Or even go to the camera. Like, get right in line with the camera or something and do it in the vein that. That. That New York did it on Big Brother.
A
Hmm. Okay. I can see that may be working.
B
That also means that the drink they threw in Ross's face should have kept getting bigger and bigger. It should start as a shot and then a martini and then a pint glass and then a pitcher and then a cooler.
A
Yeah, but you think Ross brought the baby? Y' all ain't dunking me with a whole fucking bunch of water.
B
Bitch, he's already got water. Have you ever had a drink on your face for a scene? No, I have, and the person throwing the drink in my face was very short, and they threw it up at me, bitch. Into my nose. Like, up my. I remember being like, I'm drowning. We had to do it, like, three times, and it Never got used.
A
What show?
B
We're here Work.
A
I remember when I was used to being Sudetsu a bit. I first time, like, I would. I forgot what number was. I would take a drink and throw it in my own face. One night I was like, you know what? It was drag suicide. Or drag, whatever they call it these days. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to do it with vodka, y'. All. The way. That burned my eyes. It was tequila vodka. I didn't realize it would burn so bad. I was on stage blind. I thought I was eating. I was like this. I was like, they're going to gag it. So the Hans had just draw me a full beverage. I was like, yes, but, you know, audience.
B
The audience won't know if it's vodka or water.
A
I know, I know, I know.
B
But you're a method actor.
A
I'm a method actor.
B
So doing the judging, Lana and Lydia got the harshest critiques, obviously.
A
Mm.
B
But my favorite question came up, which I wanna. I wanna drag Fenton. Randy, if you're listening, I wanna pitch something to you. The question should no longer be who should go home and why. The question should be who's doing the worst in the competition.
A
Yeah, they can't scapegoat that fucking boring ass bullshit. That forties bitches did it.
B
It was so saying your biggest competition go home is the cheapest. Like, lamest. You're lame. You're lame. You're. If you say your biggest competition, saying your biggest is the same thing as saying, oh, send them all home. It's lame. You're lame. You're a bitch. You're not brave, and you're not bold enough to say who you think should go home. So thank you to Anya Nerve and Susie Toot for answering the question. And honestly, Anya, as we found out during Untucked, didn't actually answer the question the way she thought it should have been answered. So truthful, Susie Toot was the only person who was actually brave enough to give a real answer. I'm kind of Susie's side a little bit.
A
I mean, I think it. Susie side.
B
I think it's crazy. Do you get what it sounds like?
A
Su. Oh, suicide
B
Susie.
A
So, God, I. I agree. I think it's really fucking lame to say your very competition to say Susie or Anya. But again, what I was really gagged at is in when someone is doing so well in the competition for everyone to just glaze over how good she's doing. Just saying Susie. I thought it was so interesting that none of Them see Anya as the. As. As. As. As the biggest threat.
B
They do, I think, don't like Susie as much as they like Anya. You're right. They just like Susie more. I mean, they just like Anya more. You know what I mean?
A
Anya Moore.
B
So Anya wins the challenge. Lana and Lydia on the bottom. I'm actually kind of shocked that Lana was there. I thought it was gonna be Lexi.
A
I would have put jewels in the bottom.
B
I meant Jules. Sorry. I meant Jules.
A
Yeah, I think it should have been Jules, but I'm okay with Lydia or. Or Ilana. But I think Jules should have been there instead of one of them.
B
They lip sync Too Unholy by Sam Smith. I love this song. Watching Lydia, it was uncomfortable for. It was uncomfortable on so many levels. First of all, it's uncomfortable because you are literally just flailing with a weapon. Like, she has scissors. She's tripping scissors. She is flailing with a sharp. She's running with scissors. It was just so uncomfortable. I'm like. And she starts tripping. Like, once she tries to get her foot out and she starts to fall, like, so I could be like, oh, my God. Your holding situation, which is so uncomfortable, girl, you should have pre cutted it. You should have perforated or something. Like, this shit was very hard to watch.
A
It was also bitch. Honestly, knowing, I think it was clear she was going to be in the bottom. I mean, what bitch in untucked, I would have cut it and came back on stage if worst, best case scenario, I'm not in the bottom, but my dress is cut up. Who cares? Bitch, you on Drag Race. Like, you knew there was. You cannot lip sync in that. Come back with the thing like. And don't, don't. And I know sometimes they didn't tuck. They're like, ladies, you can't. Bitch.
B
Fuck that.
A
I will be sitting there talking to everybody like, yeah, and just cut it. But also, it's your first season.
B
Who gonna check me? Who gonna stop me?
A
But it's your first season, Bob. You know, like, you play by the rules. Except for you.
B
No, I did not ask. Ask the girls for my season, baby. I. I have been Bob the Drag Queen for a long time. I was causing trouble. I remember how they told me I couldn't pee. I said, who gonna tell me I'm grown? You tell me. I can't pee. You're crazy.
A
Yeah.
B
We're shutting down production. I gotta go pee. We'll continue when I get back. Tell me I can't pee. Y' all got some Imagine Imagine I can't pee, bitch. I'm grown as hell.
A
Yeah. So I would. She said she should have prepped it. She come back on stage with her dress cut up, but she didn't.
B
And honestly, hike it up. Cutting your dress has been done on Drag Race, and it's never that gaggy. It's not that gaggy. She's like, I have something on my sleeve. It's not gaggy. What I wish you would have done was rip. Ripped off that. That. What do you call it?
A
Like, the fur.
B
Shaw.
A
Shaw.
B
And have some up and hold two upside down crosses and be like, mommy, don't know. Let us get it.
A
That'll be kind of.
B
If she would have been like,
A
could
B
you imagine these upside down crosses being like. That would have been. To me. That would have been so fierce. Or she would reveal the big upside down cross on her chest or on
A
her back at that point. Okay, you're not tucked. You're not in the workroom making prop.
B
I did so whenever I thought I was in the bottom. Let me tell you now, y' all don't realize this. Every single. Except the one. I was actually in the bottom, man. Every single lip sync. I went and prepared a gag for when we did the. When I had the paint drip in my head, the neon challenge, I had all this acrylic paint in my titties, and I was gonna pull it out and pour it all over my head, in my mouth, spit it out. I had a gag for every. I was like, if I'm in the bottom, if I had the lipstick, I was ready to do so.
A
Ready. Yeah. I think she should. She should have prepared or honestly just have some red paint somewhere just to. Just to give the thing a blood somewhere, you know?
B
So Anya wins. She's the first girl with three wins. Anya is the winner. RuPaul's Drag Race Season 17. In my humble opinion, I think that her close competition will be Jewel Sparkles. I think Susie Toot will be at the finale as well. The top Three are Susie 2, Jewel Sparkles, and On your nerve.
A
Yeah, I agree. No, top three are on your nerve, Susie Toot.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
Cause, yeah. I mean. Yes. On your nerve, Susie Toot, Juice Sparkles. Those are. Those are my envisioning for top three. Um, yeah, I see that.
B
I mean, Samsar's gonna be in fourth place.
A
And where's. Where's Lexi's fifth?
B
Lexi's not gonna make. Yeah, Lexi's fifth. Lexi. Lexi's getting the Latrice. The Latrice exit, which is Where? Semifinal, like, right before the night. Semi. Semifinals, like, right before. I think she went home fifth for her first time.
A
The bend of the crown.
B
It's gonna be a really big emotional exit from the show. She's going to thank RuPaul profusely. She's going to say to herself something like, and now I see that I have what it takes. I came here not believing in myself. I overcame so many hurdles. And I want to thank you, RuPaul, for giving me this opportunity. And now I know that I can go in the world and be the only Lexi love. They'll all applaud. She'll go to the top. She'll turn around and she'll say something like, it's, Susie, I like you, too, or something like. Or Susie, you aren't that great, or something. And then they'll all laugh, and then she'll leave. She'll get quite emotional toward the very exit of her thing during Untucked. But as she's walking down the stairs, she'll. She'll do this. As she's walking down the stairs backstage. She'll do that.
A
Okay. I hope that happens for her mom.
B
You hope she goes?
A
No. What she describes.
B
We'll talk about this. Monet praying for Lexi's downfall in Untucked. We'll see you all on. Over on the Patreon.
Date: March 19, 2025
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change dive into episode 11 of Drag Race S17, dissecting the mainstage challenge—"Ross Matthews vs The Ducks," a parody acting task inspired by Capote vs. the Swans (and a touch of Ross Matthews' own persona). The duo explore this week’s drama, the precarious mirror message incident, runway looks, and break down who’s emerging as front-runners in the competition. Along the way? Plenty of personal stories, signature banter, and ever-present comedic chemistry.
"He just looked like he was having a rough. Every time I saw him, I was like, my God, this guy was having a really rough day." (03:36, Bob)
"What you get known for on TV will follow you for the rest of your life." —Monét (12:59)
“If you did me dirty in public, you need to apologize in public.” (14:42, Bob)
“Ani nerve definitely possesses a growth that I don’t have… that is very admirable. But I don’t think I possess that same thing.” (18:43)
“You’re not at Juilliard. You’re at AMDA, ok? That’s what you need to be doing.” (32:48, Bob)
Memorable bit:
“Jules is a close second for me. She looks amazing.” (57:58, Monét)
Bob: “I’m gonna give it to Jules Sparkles.” (57:56, Bob)
“Saying your biggest competition go home is the cheapest…you’re lame, you’re not brave…” (65:34–65:44, Bob)
“Cutting your dress has been done on Drag Race, and it’s never that gaggy…it’s not that gaggy.” (69:27, Bob)
"What you get known for on TV will follow you for the rest of your life." —Monét (12:59)
“If you did me dirty in public, you need to apologize in public.” —Bob (14:42)
“You’re not at Juilliard. You’re at AMDA, ok?” —Bob (32:48)
“Ani nerve definitely possesses a growth that I don’t have… that is very admirable. But I don’t think I possess that same thing.” —Monét (18:43)
“Cutting your dress has been done on Drag Race, and it’s never that gaggy.” —Bob (69:27)
This episode spotlights the value of Drag Race legacy—how one moment on-screen can become a permanent label, the importance of both self-advocacy and genuine camaraderie, and the distinctions between performance on TV versus queer nightlife. Through sharp wit and honest reflection, Bob and Monét keep it real, root for Anya’s rise, and steer listeners through every moment with candor and, of course, rivalry.