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I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order. Oh, sorry. Namaste. Visit 1-800-contacts.com today to save on your first order. 1-800-contacts. Bob. We are currently on episode four of RuPaul's Drag Race season 15 and Snatch Game. It's like Christmas coming early. The Snatch Game came early today.
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Yeah, it's already. It's already Snatch Game, which is wild to me.
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To me, they're breaking up the pattern. Snatch Game is normally like episode six or seven.
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I'm gonna say right now, I did not like this idea. I think the Snatch Game should have stayed where it was. I think we sacrificed too much to have two Snatch Games.
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I agree. I think it was. Or what they should have done. In my opinion, they should have broken it up. Kind of like how they do a double premiere. They should have done seven girls and just focus on those seven girls for that Snatch Game. And then next week, episode five, do another seven girls. And one girl still goes home both weeks.
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Maybe they'll do another tennis game in
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the middle of the season.
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Could you imagine?
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Could you imagine? So hiding behind your microphone.
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Oh, there was.
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I
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am. You ever see, like, you ever be in front of a guy with a big dick and it looks like this?
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You'd be like, we were talking about this the other day. I have not had that experience. But who's hiding behind a dick like that?
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No, you're just looking at it. You're like, oh, my God.
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Anyway, we're talking about sucking a dick too long. I was like, bob, have you ever sucked a dick and you got. And it was going on too long? You got tired? I was like, no, no, never. Not once.
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Some of us have stamina. And some of us don't do cardio. Clearly you have to do throat cardio, and clearly you don't do any of it.
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I do throat cardio, but once upon a time I was confronted with a dick. Then I'm not kidding, y'. All. No exaggeration. I was sucking the dick for about an hour and 15 minutes and I was. And it wasn't even light work.
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Light work. I once sucked the dick all the way through Titanic. What were you saying about how Monet was too vulgar on this podcast earlier?
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Right.
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She is. Monet is too vulgar.
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You.
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Monet's way too vulgar. Wait, Monet, can you read that Reddit comment I sent you? I can pull it up really quickly.
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Oh, I got it, Jacob. I got it right here, baby.
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What Reddit comment?
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Let me read this Reddit comment that I was like, oh, my God, I feel so seen. I feel heard. I feel safe. I feel protected. Here we go. This was from Reddit user onlyfanonlyone. Here's the title.
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This is Monet's only fan and he is the only one. Continue.
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Does Bob gaslighting Monet make anyone else uncomfortable? Although I love civil rivalry. Whenever Monet says and Bob immediately calls her a liar and says all the stuff and just straight up gaslighting Monet, I don't really find it funny. Just makes me feel bad for Monet. And onto the fact that Bob is always the one saying that Monet is gaslighting, when in reality it's Bob. It's frankly disgusting.
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Now I want to come out. This literally has zero upvotes.
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I mean, it has 25 comments though.
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It literally has zero upvotes. And the number one comment is, nice try, Monet with 506 of votes. Nice try. Another topic comment is Monet be lying, though. That's a very popular one.
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But literally the other 124 comments are
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like, I will read. I will read them all. I will not skip any. You aren't in their friendships at all. This post is camp. It's just me going, I understand your concern, but I do not share the same concern. Am I being gaslit by this post? Oh, dear, I'm not sure podcast or everyone five bucks that Monet wrote this. We live for you and your and our Gaslight Queen. Reminder, people, you don't know these people in real life. Wait till you find out they're really men in wigs. Hear me out. Is it possible that Bob's drag queens and queen are coming to joking? Please go outside. So I'm Reading every.
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Literally.
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There are literally. And I'm not being exaggerated. Zero. And I mean zero comments being like, yeah, I agree. Every time I just said.
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Someone just said, yes, I stand my Gaslight Queen. You just read it.
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No, I'm going to read it to
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you because I stand my Gaslight queen.
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I love that you pick and choose the thing you pick.
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Did you not. Did that.
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Listen, I'm going to read it back to you because you love to pick. Just the giblets. Just the giblets. You just. You are honestly. Your level of delusion. You're giving these girls a run for their money. I love it. I love it. The comment said. And I hope I can find it again. It says, 5 bucks Monet wrote this.
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No, no, no.
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Let me read it. It's the same comment. 5 bucks Monet wrote this. We love you and our Gaslight Queen. They're calling you one too many. You.
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No, they're calling you the Gaslight.
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And this says 5 bucks Monet wrote this. So Monet, literally. The comment. The comment is down.
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I don't have access to the post, so I can't read in the comments.
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What? You don't have Reddit?
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Jacob just sent me.
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Don't worry, don't worry. I'll text it to you.
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Okay?
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Don't worry. Okay, so now if you look at your text messages, you now have access to the post. So you have a.
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You have a. You have an Android. So I don't think I'll get it today. Probably tomorrow morning. I should have it now.
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Tell me now tell me more about your gaslighting. Anyway, onto the episode, honey, and I'll be reposting it on my Twitter so you all can look at how they're dragging this Monet sub. This is Monet She Devil. This is Monet she Devil. This is your account. This is clearly your second account that you've made. So obviously it's either you or one of your delusional sponges and onto the episode. Anyway, now that you've been cleared, this is not rivalry.
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This is Stephen Watchery.
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Now that you've been cleared, like my
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sinuses, they're clearly not because we go ahead about seven more times this episode, so they ain't clear.
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Let's move on. Amy. Amy. Oh, I can't. When I type her name, I don't know how to spell Amber. I just type Amy. And her Twitter says Amy. Oh, Amy is. Amy is like, I'm not. Maybe Amy's having an existential crisis and she doesn't know if she's funny or not. She's like, I'm known for being funny, and now I'm not funny. This is a problem which is concerning, to say the least. And I never say the least.
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Well, she's known for her comedy. That's something she's known for. In her scene, she's from. She's not from Seattle. Where is she from?
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Connecticut.
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Connecticut. She's known.
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Honestly, if you just assume Connecticut on this cast, you'll probably be right.
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At least. I don't know about math. I can't figure that out. Anyway, and then Luxx has this moment where she. Luxx is having. She's having a high. She's placing the hypothetical top three outside of who Sasha being the winner. She's saying that Sasha's first, Lux herself is second, and Lucy was third. And Lucy's like, I'm second, you're third. And.
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But also, honestly, like. Like. Like competing to be. Can be. To compete. Lux and Leduc and Lucy, like, arguing to see who's second place is so cringy. It's like, bitch, y'. All, like, what it is. It's like. It's like, I'm in second place. No, I'm like, you like. And the winners over there, like, girl, this is. I. It was embarrassing for me to watch, personally. How did you know?
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It was a little weird. I thought. I thought it was a little strange, something to argue, But I also.
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But also, it doesn't. I mean, I. I guess for tv, it's fun. It's fun for tv. But for sure, Lucy and Lux both, in my opinion, seem to be thinking up until this point, they're both thinking they're doing a lot better than they're doing. Like, they're both doing fine. But I don't know. So it's strange.
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This is feeding into this from episode one. We're three or four episodes in now. We're getting this narrative of how delusional Luxx is. Like, from episode one, literally, the first thing thinking that her wig is 40 inches is. What is 22 thinking? That she is thinking that she. That she crushed a challenge when she didn't. You know what I mean? Like, so I think that where they're painting this picture of Lux being very delusional.
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I mean, are they painting it or is Lux painting it?
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Well, that's what I meant. The. The. The story we're getting of Lux is that she's delusional. Yeah. Yeah.
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I mean, well, every time we talk, every time we visit Lux, she's talking about how she's winning. How she's going to win?
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She.
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She hasn't done anything yet to win.
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And.
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And now Luxx, and you're Twinner, and you. And yes, and yes, you do have to pick sides. And, yes, you do have to pick sides.
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I want some Mac and cheese and the collard greens.
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So, I mean, we'll talk about this real quick before we get into the episode. Cause we're not quite there yet, actually. Let's do it in order. We'll get there.
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Because we get there, it has to pertain to the game of Snatch as
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it pertains to this. Yeah. Now they're doing Snatch Game in two. They're doing two Snatch Games. So I guess half the girls never even got to see the Snatch Game. They just heard about it. They saw it when we fucking saw it. You know what I mean?
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It's what we did for. Pretty much what we did for All Stars 7, except it was the same girl as both time, but they do the Snatch Game.
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You've done double Snatch Game twice, haven't you? No, no.
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First time was Snatch Game of Love, so.
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Oh, you all were the first ones to ever do the new Snatch Game.
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We were. Oh, yeah, yeah.
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That was the first. Because I remember. Because I remember helping Naomi, and we didn't know it'd be a Snatch Game of Love. And she got there and she couldn't do some of her bits.
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Yeah. So, yeah, I think. I personally think Bob and I are talking about this. I think they should have done this episode focused on seven girls. Like, the first group would have been all about them, their Snatch Game and their Runaways and deliberation. The next week's episode would have been the next seven, and then someone would have went home both episodes. I think that that would have been more fun for us because things happened so fast. We didn't get any Rue walkthroughs. We didn't get.
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I hate that, Rudy. We didn't get to have listen to Rue tell a girl why she shouldn't do her Snatch Game character. And that's my favorite moment, is when Ru tells a girl not to do the Snatch Game character she wants to do, and then she does it anyway. Those are my. That is one of my favorite mainstays in RuPaul's Drag Race.
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Gigi, good.
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Well, RuPaul looking at the things and guessing. Guessing what they're going to be.
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You have like, a pen, a stapler and a cross, and he's like, I'm
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getting Britney Spears or RuPaul Cackling, cackling. No, no, no. That's her chuckle. Her cackle is, oh, yeah.
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It's like she needs a glass of water, girl.
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Right?
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I want to say this when they. When Ru comes to tell. Ru is wearing his Met Gala look, and it looks very. I love when a pant hits the floor perfectly.
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I mean, for as much money that fucking outfit cost, the mother better touch the floor, sweep the floor and clean. Clean up after it, too.
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And then every time I've noticed this third episode, fourth episode, anytime Ru is talking to, when Ru comes to give them the hello, hello, hello message, Jax always looks like a little kid who's about to get in trouble. Have you noticed this? Jax stands with his hands in front of his body like this, and he's
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like, I've not noticed that. I will look for that now.
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Yes. I don't know why Jax looks like a little. First of all, they look. They present so young. I don't know how old Jax is, but Jax presents very young.
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Well, I think it might be because that Jax is short. Like, I don't think Jax is doing anything to particularly present young or dressing young. Like. Like Jax isn't in, like, a backpack with, like, a Door of the Explorer backpack with some sketches on. I think that Jax is just. Is a. Is A. It's five, three, and just kind of comes off as young. She's 25. 25 years old. So I also, real quick, I think that the twins should have done the same sn. They should have done compliment. I know, I know I said they shouldn't do this anymore, but in this instance, I think they should have done complimentary Snatch games.
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That's so funny you say that because I was saying knowing someone else, because they obviously know each other, we're going. That is a perfect way to do two characters and even before you get there, come with canned bits for interacting. Like all the bits they've been planning all the time. They didn't plan any bits for Snatch Game.
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You and Cracker didn't play any Bishop Snatcher game. Y' all knew y' all were going.
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I didn't know Cracker was going. For sure. Cracker didn't tell me. We talked about this.
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Really?
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No.
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I think that, honestly, Sugar should have done spice, and Spice should have done sugar.
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No, I don't. Second man.
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Imagine if they did each other.
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No, no.
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So at this point where they're going over who's going to go, who? Who's doing who? Lux says that she's doing Amanda Lepore. And then out of nowhere. So someone goes, well, are you nervous? Someone. Mistress said, are you nervous that. That someone's already done this? And then she goes, well, she didn't do a good job. So, no. And I was. And now. So now Lux and Trinity are online, like, going back and forth, and I guess Lux is like luxury. Tweeted. Like, you can like, and laugh at all these comments, like, dragging me, but it won't make your. It won't make your blah, blah, blah, your Snatch Game any better. The tweet was liking and laughing at tweets about how my Snatch Game was horrible and how I'm arrogant and delusional won't make yours any memorable or funnier because it wasn't lol Halo emoji.
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So then. So then Trinity tweeted back at her 11 wins, still waiting for at least one. Done with this conversation. And she said, mind you, I didn't throw the first punch, but I'm no punk. You already know. You talk shit, you get a reply. And I clicked on this post. Trinity, is everyone who comments something. Trinity is lacerating them.
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Oh, Trinity, stay on Twitter, honey. Tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet.
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I think Trinity. Trinity might be Elon Musk in drag.
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I mean, she did. I mean, Lux did randomly come for Trinity, who was just. Who was just sitting at home, minded
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her business, walking her dogs in Florida.
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And then. And then she was like, well, she didn't do a good job. And I mean, I don't think that. That Trinity did a great Snatch Game. I mean, Trinity. I think Trinity's. Has she won Snatch Game twice or once?
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She won it. She won it twice as Caitlyn Jenner. No, she won a Caitlyn Jenner. She didn't win.
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Who won it?
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Yeah, it was Trinity and Jinx. Yes, Trinity just won Snatch Game twice.
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Wait, no, they didn't tie. Trinity and Jinx didn't tie.
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Yes, they did. They both. They didn't tie. But there were two winners.
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Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, yeah. So Trinity. Trinity has won Snatch Game two times now. She's done it four times, technically, because y' all did it twice in one. Cause you did twice in one. So she's done Snatch Game four times,
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and three of those four characters were slam dunks.
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Um, I would say two of the four were slam dunks. And. And one was good. I mean, I think that her. Her Devil was a little better than.
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No, her.
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Her Leslie Jordan was better than. Anyway, that's not the point. The point is Trinity does have a. And Trinity holds the record for the most wins in Drag Race history.
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And also, I'm gonna say Trinity has On every season she's participated, she's made it to the finals. She's done a great. Trinity has had a great shown on Drag Race every time.
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So to come, Luxx might make it to the finale too. You never know.
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She might. But at this point, in both the. In all three seasons that Trinity competed in, she had won.
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That is true. Trinity is. Trinity is a powerhouse in terms of RuPaul's Drag Race and specifically improving and Snatch Game. She has made quite a name for herself in pretty much every improv and Snatch Game challenge.
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So the girls are going around talking about what characters are doing, and Malaysia says. She says, I'm doing soft. She's Santana. Because I relate to him.
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I'm like, I think they're both from Tampa. I think because they're gay from Tampa.
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That's not. But just because the competition is not. Is not. Who do you relate to the most? Who do you identify with? It's bitch, who can you make funny? I relate to him. I was like, girl. What?
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Yeah, I. I mean, to be fair, I did say that a part of. I did say the reason why. Why I chose Carol Channing is because people ask me, why do you like Carol Channing? And I said it's because I relate to her, but it's not why I did Carol Channing. I chose Carol Channing because she has a very funny voice and a very specific look. Same with Uzu Aduba. Has an interesting voice and a unique look. And, yeah, there were some choices. I mean, we might as well go ahead and jump in because most of the episode is. So should we go one by one and what would you give them? A scale of 1 to 10? Did you say good or bad? What do you think?
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I think I would say we can rate them on a scale of 1 to 10. I like that. A little more nuanced than just good or bad.
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Well, okay. Yeah, I'm gonna try. So, Marsha as Tim Gunn. I have always wanted to see Tim Gunn on Stash Game. I've always wanted to do Tim Gunn on Snatch Game. Her look is this look.
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She looks great.
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Is great. She looks like the voice was great. I knew who she was immediately. Even if she didn't have her name in front of her, I would have known who she was immediately. And she had a few good moments. Nothing really blew me out of the park. I would give her. But, you know, looking at her performance, I give her a seven and a half, eight.
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Well, I like that she was volleying with other people. Like, she would. Like, she would try, like, from the first. From the. From right. When she was meeting other characters, she was making jokes and cracking them. And that looked so good to Ru because Ru was like, ok, you're playing the games. So I would give her. I would give her an eight for sure. I would give her an eight.
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To be fair, this whole group was underwhelming. Let me just say Marcia. I mean, the whole group was under this group. One, Marshall, Lux, Mistress, Anitra, Robin, Selena, Malaysia as a group. The other group was much more impactful. Even though there were some really big misses, they were at least taking big swings. And it felt like the only one in this group interested in taking a big swing was Selena. And kind of Marcia. Selena was taking some huge swings. I think Robin, Anitra, Lux and Malaysia might as well have just been sitting on their thumbs. Like, Malaysia barely did anything. Luxx barely did anything. Anetra. I mean, we'll go down. Let's go one by one.
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But also, I will say on both teams, there were only three people who were engaging and being funny at all. And I think that maybe Saucy. Sorry, Malaysia, Luxx, and Anita and Robba. They were trying to say stuff, but they just weren't funny, so they just didn't make the edit.
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I disagree. I. I mean, let's go through the whole thing.
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Let's go through the stuff. Amanda Lepore. I thought that again, we didn't see much of her. I mean, I think for doing a look at least, she really. This is a black Amanda Lepore. I would identify the character. Would I know who it is without the paper? Probably not. But she had nothing funny to say and she was not great. I will give her a three.
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But who did it better, her or Trinity?
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I don't remember Trinity's first Amanda Lepore. I really do.
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Oh, my God. You said Trinity's was unmemorable.
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Shut the fuck up.
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So Trinity's was shit. Oh, my God.
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But judging by Trinity's Snatch Games, after that, I would say Trinity, but I have not. I don't remember Trinity.
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Not the Twinners are fighting. Not the Twinners are fighting. I'm dead. I'm okay. Well, Lux's cheek prosthetics were not great, which is annoying me. I could see the entire edge, which was just driving me insane. And. And it wasn't good. I would give Her a four. It was not. It was. It was not memorable at all. It wasn't. But the thing about it is, like. And we'll get to the twins later, at least with Spice. Spice was swinging huge. She was missing the biggest, but at least she was, like, taking risk. You know what I mean?
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But sometimes the Smash game don't. If you know that you. If you know that you are. If you know you're not going to hit the ball, bitch, then don't swing at that. I can respect. At least you're trying to fly under the radar. I think Spice and Sugar, they put big targets on their backs because they were so bad.
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Let's not skip ahead, all right? Malaysia, baby. Malaysia. Might as well have just sat there out of drag and just. And just like, I. I legit am gagged. She might as well have just sat there in her confessional look, and then, well, she was just doing herself. And then she would occasionally just quote a Santana song.
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Yeah. And, I mean, she did look like Saucy Santana, though. I will say that.
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Yeah, her look is her look. I'm gonna give her a look on a scale of ten and nine and a half. The look was good. I wish she would have had a better beard instead of whatever she used. But this look was great. But also, like, Saucy's voice is. Yeah, like that. Saucy sounds like a cisgendered woman. Like, Saucy's voice is like, I want Shannon. I boots saw these niggas steady ducking because they know I'm the truth. I can't even do his voice. So she didn't. She didn't. But she went in with a character who has a really specific voice, a huge Internet personality. She didn't twerk. We never saw her ass. How you gonna be Santana and not show anybody? You're not gonna talk about your ass. You're not gonna say anything. You're not gonna say nothing about your ass. Never. Not once. Okay. Oh, okay. Okay.
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What do you give her overall?
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Because her.
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Her.
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Her look isn't. Is a nine and a half. And her performance, I'm going to give it a three, so I'm going to give her a five.
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Okay, so then you have to do it for Lux, though. He didn't get that for Lux.
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Okay. Lux's look is like, I'm going to give Lux's look like a seven and her performance like a three, so she gets a five, too.
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Okay. Saucy. Yeah, I give Saucy overall. I give Saucy a four. Even look and thing, I think it was a four. Even though the look was good, we just didn't hear anything from Saucy. And there was not, I don't remember a single. I don't think even his first thing was a joke. So I don't even.
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And the thing about Saucy, I know you guys said they didn't show Malaysia a lot. There's a chance that they didn't show her because it just wasn't interesting enough. Like it wasn't bad enough. It wasn't good enough. Yeah, if it's bad, they will show it. If it's good, they will show it. And if it's boring and they have to get to fucking, what, 14, 15
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girls in 41 minutes and 27 seconds too.
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Yeah. They're going to cut to a club of saucy going, no, no.
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Okay, let's go on to Mistress. Isabelle Brooks as ROSIE o' DONNELL I thought Mistress. I thought Mistress was so fucking funny. Did she look like Rosie o'? Donnell? No, but what she with her. At least mistress has this like southern accent. Her, her committing to this New York bit and having the attitude. I thought her Rosie o' Donnell was stunning. I give Mistress a nine.
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She literally looks like Ginger Minj. I Monet look at this picture and tell me that's not just Ginger Minj.
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Ginger Minj in dark hair. Yeah, I see it. Especially the way that she highlights.
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Right? Like, like in this moment, she looks Ginger Minj. You know, it wasn't a good Rosie. Like, first of all, I would, I think that she's doing obviously doing Rosie from the TV show when Rosie was in, when Rosie was closeted. I personally think that the salt and pepper short haircut Rosie is more interesting visually where how she looks now. Now she has short hair and her hair is gray. Also, Rosie donor has a very, very small mouth like Mistress too. Rosie's mouth. I mean, you can only make your mouth so small. Rosie's mouth actually kind of look like Donald Trump's mouth. Rosie o' Donnell and Donald Trump kind of have the same mouth. They also kind of have the same accent because they're both New Yorkers.
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I didn't realize Rosie o' Donnell was from New York. She's.
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Yeah, you didn't. Rosie o' Donnell has a thick accent.
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I know. I thought it was, I thought she was maybe like just from this area. Maybe like Jersey. I didn't know she was from New York. Oh, she's five. She's.
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Oh, bitch.
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She's from comac New York. Where the hell is Comac?
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Long Island. She's from Long Island.
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Oh, yeah. I thought it was gonna be some upstate bullshit.
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No, Rosa Donna has a very thick Long island accent. And I don't know. This was. This was she. But she was funny. And the ultimate game of Snatch Game is not too perfectly impersonate. It is to be funny. I'm gonna give her an eight.
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Work.
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Okay. Anitra. Okay. I'm intrigued. When girls don't want to not do drag. So they just say they're. So they say they're someone's sisters. Kim Chi did this. Kim Chi.
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They don't want to do drag. What do you mean they don't want to do drag?
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They don't want to. They don't want to be out of drag. They don't want to be in boy drag. So they just do.
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Because if she did Gordon Ramsey, she had to be as a boy.
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Yeah. So Kim Chi did it. Kim Chi was Kimmy Jong Un instead of Kim Jong un. It doesn't happen super often, but it does happen every once in a while. Someone's like, I'm a famous person's sister.
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Yeah. I am Bobbilina, the drag queen.
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Yeah. I don't understand.
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It was an odd choice because Gordon, if you're gonna pick Gordon Ramsay's sister, then you have to be the funny thing. I think. I think you are mean and ass like him or the polar opposite. Like you are just spitting unicorns and rainbows. Because Gordon Ramsay is a fucking prick. He is.
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You fucking stupid. Cut.
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Don't cut the fucking stupid. Like, he is, like, mean.
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Why does he have. Why does he have an American accent?
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Because I. Oh, yeah. Where is he? He's British or Australian.
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Yeah, he's British.
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Yeah.
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So the thing about Gordon Ramsay. Gordon Ramsay is British, but his main thing, like. Like Monet pointed out, is that he's mean. Like, Gordon Ramsay is blunt. Gordon Ramsay is vicious. Gordon Ramsay will say it. Gordon Ramsay does not. He's like.
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He put the.
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Yeah, you're a dumb idiot sandwich or some shit. Like. And he also calls you. What does he call. What does he call. What does Gordon Ramsay call you when you're. When you. He a. You're a toad. No, there's something that Gordon Ramsay calls you when you're being stupid. No, it's like a. You're a thumb. You're a. You're a. You're a toad. You're a. A bump. You're a log. Or there's something he says.
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I don't know.
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There's something that. There's something Gordon Ramsay calls you. Oh, Colleen about to get yelled at. There's something Gordon Ramsay calls you Colleen.
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Get.
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Get. Colleen. Get. There's something he calls you when you. Anyway, the thing is, like, she wasn't mean, and her. And her British accent wasn't good. And also, Gordon Ramsay does this thing where he acts like he's going to insult you, and then he's very nice to you. Yeah. He's like. He's like, who made this cheese stick? Who is it? And he raised your hand. He goes, this cheese stick is absolutely the best thing I've ever had in my life.
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Yeah.
B
It's changed my thoughts as a chef. You've made, like. And, like, she didn't do any.
A
I don't know what accent you doing with it. I don't know, though.
B
A.
A
Where was that? Icelandic?
B
And I said, who. I said, who made this cheese stick?
A
Here we go. There we go. She.
B
She didn't do. Only thing she did going around was she had a British accent and she wore a chef coat. Like, I don't get. I honestly, I don't understand why she would choose this. This was a really bad choice. This is a very. It. See, it also seems like she doesn't know anything about Gordon Ramsay.
A
Yeah. Maybe she just likes watching the show and she thought it would be funny. But I'm like, why would you not. I don't understand a choice to not play this character. Just like him. Absurdly mean or Apollo opposite. She was just very middle of the road. It was like she was just herself talking about food.
B
Yeah, it was just her. Yeah. With a bad British accent and a chef's coat. It was very, very strange. I'm gonna give this a three.
A
I give it a four.
B
Now let's go on to Robin Fierce as Karen Hugger. She's a house. I don't. I don't watch Housewife. I don't know this woman at all.
A
I think I don't know her at all, but I'm pretty sure she's from Housewives of Potomac. And when other people play, I mean, I didn't watch that season. I don't know a whole bunch about Potomac. But in the housewife canon, like, even if you don't watch the show, you know, the ones that are, like, memorable, you know, Teresa Giudice, you know Carolyn Manzo, you know Bethenny Frankel, you know Nene Leakes, like, you know the ones that, like, why would you choose Karen Hunter? And it was again, hugger. Oh, hugger. There's nothing about this Hugger.
B
I just met her. Sorry.
A
She looks like Wendy Williams. She's on Wendy fucking Williams. But there was nothing about this bitch that was memorable, exciting, fun. She tried to drum up something about some Housewives thing. If you knew Housewives, you find it funny, I guess. But again, this was something that was so middle of the road and not exciting at all.
B
Yeah, I just can't imagine why you would choose. And I feel like the only reason she chose Karen Hugger is because someone once said, girl, you kind of look like Karen Hugger. I can't think of any other reason why she would choose Karen Hugger if, as someone who doesn't watch Housewives. If you're going to do Housewives like Monet said, do here, the. Here are your options. All future Drag Race. Nene Leakes, Brandi Glanville, Kim Zolciak.
A
Vanderpump.
B
Vanderpump. Prostitution whore. Teresa Giudice, Bethenny Frankel, and who's the One? I can't remember any others, but, like.
A
Or Andy Cohen.
B
Oh, my God. Andy Cohen. Yeah, you gotta do Andy Cohen.
A
Yeah.
B
Real.
A
I love. Yeah, Andy Cohen. That'll be a good one.
B
But, yeah, this was. This was. I mean, girl, Robin might as well have just been just sitting there. Robin. Robin might as well just been sitting there.
A
I think a lot of these girls are so lucky that it was so many girls, because it allowed a lot of people to hide. Because if it was, like, it was only these seven. Let's say it was only these seven girls. This was our seven that did it. Bitch. It would have been a different story. But there were so many places to hide because it was so big. I give Robin a four.
B
It's easy to get lost in the sauce. And they are very lucky. They did. I'm giving Robin a four. Two Selena s titties. I think Selena titties was definitely the. She did the biggest chances here. She wasn't always succeeding. Every once in a while, she would do something funny. Selena was kind of pulling a little bit of what Amethyst was pulling. She. As soon as Jacob told me that she did Virgin Mary, I was like, what is she slutty or horny? Like, I immediately was like, what is it? A slutty Virgin Mary. But she ended up being horny, so it's kind of the same thing. Like, and she. I mean, immediately in the first thing, I'm just horny. It's like, girl, save it. Like, save it.
A
I did, like, her first bit when Ruth So we have the Virgin Mary and she goes, rue, my God, I missed you at our Last Supper or whatever she said. I thought it was a great opening joke and I think it was really set her. I thought they were setting her up to, like, be the best of this group.
B
I mean, Virgin Mary was not at the Last Supper, but go ahead.
A
But I get what she's. Yes, we know she wasn't there. It was Jesus and the disciples, but.
B
Oh, so you think it really happened?
A
It absolutely did happen.
B
Wow.
A
Anyway, so I thought it was setting off to be the best on this group, but she kind of like. She started really high and kind of like went down a bit. But I agree with you. I think Selena did. Made really big risks. And she was. And she came with the whole baby prosthetic and she was. Could have the thing. And she was throwing up because she had morning sickness. I like that. She came prepared unlike anyone. None of. No one else. Well, not anyone else. The four that we talked about, they seemed to prepare nothing. Like, they had no idea Snatch Game was fucking happening.
B
Also, you're not going to bring a baby Jesus. Like, you're. You're just. You're just not going to bring. You're going to be Virgin Mary, be pregnant. You're not going to have a baby.
A
Deliver the baby.
B
Honestly, if she had a little baby on a cross,
A
Bob, first of all,
B
I don't think they would let her.
A
They would not let her put that on tv.
B
She should have been like.
A
They would not let her do that.
B
Did you see how the lights. The lights went out when she was talking about Jesus. Do you believe that's a coincidence or, like, what do you think about that?
A
No, I think they were just playing with her girl. No.
B
Any producers were fucking with her?
A
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B
I'm gonna give Her a six and a half seven. Um, yeah, I'm trying to go through my notes about this, this section like Karen Saucy and Georgina barely got any camera time.
A
Yeah.
B
And it's probably because they were not. There were some moments with, with, with Selena that were uncomfortable. So I'm going to give her a, I'm going to give her a six and a half seven.
A
What do you, who, who do you think is the best of this group?
B
I'm going to give the best one to Mistress Isabelle Brooks. And then I'm going to give second place to Marsha. Marcia. Marsha.
A
I would agree, I would agree with
B
you, but this group was the, in my opinion, the, the underperforming group. And, and especially in terms of like, it being good tv because it was just this, this whole first group, in my opinion, was not an interesting Snatch Game because they were just so timid as a whole.
A
Interesting. You say that. Let's go, let's go to the second group because I'm looking at the second group. There was only one person that was funny here and it was fucking Lucy. And no, who else was funny?
B
Amethyst was funny. There were some moments where I was actually laughing at Amethyst.
A
She was fun funny. But I mean, I, okay, I, I, I would see that. I would say Amethyst was funny, but no one else was even close.
B
I agree. But, but at least they were like. Okay, so in my opinion, four of these people were very interesting. Like, like Lucy, Sugar, Spice and Amethyst were a. Well, actually even aura. I say Jack or was interesting because she is just like aura is her cringe campaign is.
A
I, I told bitch I clocked it from day one.
B
I no, I didn't realize. It is, it is sometimes like not.
A
I can't watch the TV sometimes. I'm not kidding.
B
I kept rewinding because, you know, I love cringe content also every time. Spice. What I think, I think Spice might have done the worst Snatch Game in the past like six seasons.
A
We have to go in order. Look, I will need to talk about Loosey. I, in my opinion, this is one of the best Snatch Games we have ever had. I thought Loosey was so fucking funny. She looked just like Joan.
B
She was great.
A
I thought she was funny. I mean, Bitch, she was doing a tight 10. It's like she was up there doing her material.
B
In the spirit of comparison, I will say that Jimbo, Jimbo was better at Joan, but it also could be because Jimbo had better people to play off of. So it, it it isn't. It doesn't necessarily. The thing about doing someone like Joan Rivers is John Rivers has already written the jokes.
A
Right.
B
All of these jokes were literally written by Joan Rivers. The mayonnaise on the. On the mayonnaise on an aspirin. That's a joke that Joan Rivers said about Elizabeth Taylor. Like, all of these jokes. Like, she was. All these jokes about her body. Joan Rivers said all of these jokes. Now, I mean, I can't say every single one of them, but like, a lot of the jokes, I'm a big fan of Joan Rivers. I was like, I've heard that one. I've heard that one. But at least she knew when to say them. She looked like Joan Rivers. She sounded like Joan Rivers. She was witty. It was. It wasn't like when. When Alyssa Edwards was. Was. Yeah, she was just saying quotes completely out of context. Heckles, bro. She's an interesting queen, but, yeah, I think I'm gonna give Lucy a nine and a half. That was. It was a good. Because if. If a 10 is jinx monsoon, as you know what. No, just within the confines of this competition.
A
Yeah.
B
The best one is a ten. The worst one is a one. I'm gonna give her a ten. Only within compounds of competition.
A
I wouldn't say I give her a 10. I. I think Lucy did a really good job. I was very.
B
Yeah, I'm not. I'm judging her just on this one. Not out of all fast games ever. She was the best one. Her look is. Her look is great. I. Instantly, the only two people. Okay, no, if I look at. If I'm going back to. Who's instantly recognizable is Joan. Mona Lisa. Joan Mona Lisa, Saucy Santana, the Virgin Mary and Tim Gunn are instantly recognizable. Instantly.
A
I would say Bretman Rock, too, but I also. I like, follow. I think I follow Bretman Rock a lot. I. I follow Bretman Rock. I. You don't think. Or I. I would say that's Brett. They're like. They're like, we're playing Snatch Game. I was like, oh, that's Bretman Rock.
B
If I saw his. Yeah, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe. Let's go on to Sasha Kobe, who I think may have been on camera for a blip of a second. I'm not. I'm not super familiar with Jan Crouch. I. So I don't. I don't know if she did a good job or not, but she. But it wasn't particularly funny from what I did see.
A
I will say when. When Ren Roo introduced her and she was like, I mean, I'm praying for her. And she put the cross at Lucy. Lucy's.
B
Ah, it burns.
A
Ruin, burn. I thought that was very funny.
B
But also Lucy ate that joke up. Yeah, like, like, like it was like.
A
That's what I meant.
B
Sasha and Lucy.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah. I'm gonna give Sasha a. A six.
A
Yeah, I give Sasha. I give Sasha a six as well. For look. And because this does look like Jan Crouch. Like, you look a view. Of course, it's like a bit dragged up because it's. She's doing Gerard.
B
Jan Crouch was dragged up.
A
Right, Right. I would say. But Jan Crouch had bigger hair, ironically, like, Jan Crouch was like, what an odd.
B
These televangelist ladies were wild. They make. They make us drag queens look settled down. Tammy, her. Tammy Faye Baker, who was the one who did the weight loss. Hold on. Weight loss televangelist.
A
I don't know.
B
Hold on. Look her up too. Televangel. I can't spell televangelist. Her name was. Oh, I can't remember her name. I see her pictures of her, but it's this fucking lady. Can you see my phone?
A
Let me see. Oh, no, I don't know who that is. I never.
B
Girl. These televangelists are wild. Wild. These tail. Eventually. Are they. They're in drag. Drag.
A
Gwen Shamblin.
B
Yeah, maybe that's her. Yeah.
A
Gwen Shamblin. Lara. Yeah, but yeah, so I, I give Sasha a six. I give a six as well. Let's go to Jax. Okay. I thought this was actually a very smart match game to do. Doing. Doing the Mona Lisa. I thought it was very smart and I thought Jax did a good job. I didn't think Jax nailed it, but I thought Jax was on the same level as Sasha. Their answers were good.
B
I think Jax actually. I think Jax did a little better than Sasha in my opinion, actually. So you go. I cut you off.
A
Go ahead. No, I agree. I think. I think Jax did a good job. And I was shocked because I did not. I wasn't expecting Jax to have such a creative character and do as good as they did. So I'm going to give Jax a six and a half seven.
B
The reason why. Okay, my thoughts on this. So if you're picking a character with no context to their behavior, like the Virgin Mary, like you're creating a character. Only thing is, Jax didn't create a big character like Jax didn't. Jax didn't do Jax. It was just. It was just Jax. Yeah, just Jax. It was, it was just. It was just Jax up there. And I do think that when she did that smile, that was pretty funny. Other than that, there wasn't really much going on. Like you. You. If you're gonna do a character with no context for their behavior, you have to create a really big Persona, in my opinion, to win. Yeah. And isn't it the goal? Isn't it the goal? Isn't the goal to win?
A
Yeah.
B
So I think that she looks. Her look is. Is a 10. And actually, it would have been a 10 if. If the Mona Lisa skin was black. It was kind of driving me crazy. The Mona Lisa skin was white. That was driving me crazy.
A
Wait, the Mona skin is white? Where, oh, where have we seen her
B
skin on the painting? Her neck? Her whole decolletage is out. Her hands.
A
No, I think that's a collar or something.
B
No, Mona Lisa is. Has her dec. Mona Lisa's decolletage is sewing.
A
Oh, work.
B
It look like a collar. Are you not familiar with the Mona Lisa?
A
I look it up because Jax has, like, a gold. Like Jax. I think Jax painted a gold collar on his to make it make sense.
B
No, no, no. That is. That's the scandal.
A
Monet.
B
Is it? Yes. You can't change the Mona Lisa. It's not the Mona Lisa if you just change it. Instead of smiling. She's over here now. She's wearing different clothes. That's not the Mona Lisa anymore. Anyway, I'm gonna give her. I'm gonna give her a six and a half as well.
A
Yeah.
B
Now, baby, let's get into. Okay, this bottom row. This. This whole bottom row dump. Sapphire is thrilling. I'm so excited. Sugar s. Hang on. Trisha Paytas. Trisha Paytas is an interesting choice. Now, the funny thing about Trisha Paytas is that Trisha Paytas is kind of playing the same character that Sugar and Spice are playing, which is the dumb blonde character. Except Trisha Paytas is. Is dabbles in a lot of problematic behavior.
A
Yeah, she was.
B
I am.
A
That said she was trans. This is a trans man. And then she had, like, a whole trans journey, allegedly.
B
Yeah, she's done. Yeah, she's done a lot of. And that's. That's just a half of it. She's done a lot of really wild stuff, right? She doesn't look anything like Trisha Paytas. Nothing at all, girl.
A
She could be any. She could be Pam Anderson. She could be any Amanda Lepore.
B
Anyone?
A
Anybody.
B
Any blonde. Any. Literally any blonde in the world.
A
Yeah. I don't get it.
B
I'm gagged. This was also. Did you notice that? That Sugar is white. They just straight up, like, say lines from other TV shows.
A
I didn't notice.
B
Yeah, so apparently Miley Cyrus was arguing on her show during something that kind of looked like Snatch Game was like, some, like, telethon thing. And Trisha Paytas was doing lines from that. It's wild. And they all. Someone put a clip side by side of them just saying things from other TV shows. I was kind of gagged, actually.
A
Yeah, well, Trisha Paytas should have said some lines that were funny is what that should have been the choice. I thought it was a bad Snatch Game. It was not funny. It was not good. I did this. Oh, my God. Same two. I give it a two. Two, two, two. And not a toot. A two, but. Are you gagging? Selena got a double toot about her. About her look last week. A double toot, baby.
B
Anyway, so Amethyst, okay. Tana mom is such a weird. Dated.
A
Very first dated,
B
like inquirer lore circa 2012. Like, why tan Mom?
A
Tan mom was a guest. This is how old this was. Tan mom was a guest at Bianca's show. Hot Mess with Lady Bunny and Jada Balenciaga. She was like a guest on the show.
B
Like, why, why, why? Anyway, Connecticut.
A
To be fair, she's from Connecticut. It's a current reference in Connecticut.
B
Is she from Connecticut?
A
Yes.
B
That being said, she was funny. I genuinely thought she was funny. There were moments where I was, like, laughing out loud. Amethyst is funny and Amethyst is now. I think this is her element. More so than what we've seen in the last two challenges, for sure.
A
I don't particularly. I didn't have any laugh out loud moments. Like you. I didn't think it was. I thought it was a good Snatch Game, but I can acknowledge that she had funny jokes. I just wasn't, like, belly laughing or laughing out loud, but I could acknowledge that they were funny. I did think she did a good job. And I think she looks like Tae mom when she did take her card and she was like. She sounded like she was triggered by the card was too white. Cause she had to tan it. I thought that was very funny.
B
That was funny. I also like when she did the thing where RuPaul asked her and she was like, no, that. That was good. Her voice was good. I felt bad for her. Like, Amethyst can't catch a break. Like, sugar was so invasive into her space. And it's so weird because, like, last episode, the fans were ready to, like, take Jax to the gallows because she tapped Spice on the shoulder or Sugar on the shoulder and asked her to move. Like, everyone act like she picked. Like, Spice picked her up and threw her into the dumpster. I went back and looked at the footage. Jax, like, touched her shoulder, and then Sugar got up and walked away on her own. Bitch. Sugar was all in Jax's. I mean, Amethyst space. Amethyst had a. Two times in character asked to not be touched.
A
Oh, twice. Yes, she did. She did. She did. She did.
B
Two times. You had to be like, don't touch me. Don't. Don't touch me. I'd be so annoyed if I had to advocate for my own personal space in character. Oh, I'd be so annoyed.
A
Okay, so let's say you're. Let's say you're doing Carol Channing. And I'm like. And I'm doing. I don't know, Diddy.
B
God, who are you?
A
I'm like, I'm Bowser.
B
Yeah. Ru. I'm sorry, Bowser. I'm gonna have you. I apologize. I understand that you're a king. I am the queen of Broadway comedy. Please respect my space. Please. I apologize, Mr. Cooper. King Cooper.
A
I give Amy, Bob's old friend Amy from back in the day. I give her.
B
Why is Amy my old friend?
A
I don't know. Just. I don't know. The fact her name is Amy now, she just. Amy's like, someone's old friend. I give her a seven and a half.
B
I'll give her an eight. Work. Can we discuss Spice the Dumpster fire. That is spice. She said, I was born to play Miley Cyrus on Snatch Game, which I
A
don't even understand what that even means, to be honest. Obviously, I get it by words, but, like, what? You were born like. Like that. Like, in creation, whatever God or Buddha or the angels, you were created, and they were like, you're going to play Miley Cyrus and Snatch Game.
B
It also makes it. It makes it seem like this was going to be her shining moment from the season. Like, this would, like. If you. If she won Drag Race, they'd be like, name the moment you knew Spice won Drag Race. Like, this was. This was the worst game I've seen in a. It might be. It might be the worst game I've ever seen. It was. It was. I. I don't even have words for. First of all, Miley Cyrus voice is so easy to imitate. Yes, she has a country accent, but the main thing about Miley Cyrus's voice, that she kind of talks like this. Like, it's all Nasally. Everyone knows that Miley Cyrus is nicely.
A
And then also, she was putting that word yuck thing. Like, she's like, yuck, yuck. I'm like, miley Cyrus doesn't do that.
B
And you know Miley Cyrus watches Drag Race. She's a huge fan. I know she is watching. Miley Cyrus must be watching this. Like, yo, is this what y' all niggas think of me? Is this what y' all think I. Y' all think I look like this? This is how you think? Yeah.
A
Like, it had nothing to do with Miley Cyrus. And then
B
what is happening?
A
And then she, like. And then she had this weird thing. Like, at a point, it looked like she, like, literally, like, blew a fuse. And, like, she was short circuiting. When she took the hammer, the sledgehammer, she was like. And she didn't even answer the question. It was so very. It's very strange behavior. I didn't not understand why she was eating.
B
She was eating the hammer. At one point, she just started eating
A
it just t. So good. R.
B
I was like. I was like, what? Sorry. R. Just tastes so good. The hammer tastes good. Why is Molly. Cuz. I know. Okay. Monster's licked a sledgehammer. Mon is very famously licked a sledgehammer. We all know this, but she didn't eat it. She didn't, like, chew it, like, do the lick. Also, I feel like a big part of Sugar and spices comedy is this face. Yeah, that, like, that is. That's there. That is, like, when they're like, we gotta. We gotta pull out the funny. They just go, yeah, yeah. Almost every episode they've done.
A
This is the thing again. This Snatch Game was so bad. I did not enjoy it. I did not think it was good. Yes. You had the bear leotard thing. The mileyotard is worse. Okay. Cute. I think what she was going for at the beginning was she was Hannah Montana, but I don't think that's a copyright name, so you can't say you're Hannah Montana. But even her connection there didn't make sense in her Miley Cyrus journey. I don't know. It was weird. This is a one and a half. Well, actually two, because the looks were nice. So I'll give her.
B
Her second look was great. She looked very much like Monosara. Yeah. So I'm gonna give her a 2 as well. This was a. Well, this performance was a. It was bad. Bad. This one was just very bad. I'm actually gagged. Followed up by the French queen. This was. I don't know.
A
I don't.
B
I don't think I could intentionally be this cringy.
A
What do you.
B
Can you. Can you not chew into the microphone? Can you not crunch ice into the microphone?
A
I just love ice. Yo, ice. I'm triggered.
B
I'm triggered. I'm literally triggered.
A
What?
B
Literally triggered what my eyes about you say I just love ice. This is an old conversation we've had before.
A
Oh, well, I like ice. Anyway, Aura, look into Ara Mayari, who is doing Bretman Rock and Bretman Rock again. I'm sure everyone watching this knows is a very big social media sensation, like, across all platforms. He has millions and millions and millions of followers. Like, their personality is so big. They have a very specific brand and point of view and aura, which I will say Aura was trying. Aura was trying to do the Bret Monrocisms and trying to do the things that she thinks are funny about Bret, but I just don't think Aura is a funny person. And the cringe factor on top of that just made this a bad Snatch Game.
B
There are moments where you will look at, like, Aura and you can. She is dying a thousand deaths. Like, Aura wants to be out of that room so bad, and you can see it on her face. And even RuPaul was like. At one point, RuPaul was basically like, no. RuPaul no ended the no, but you supposed to. Yes. And RuPaul no butted the out of her.
A
What?
B
She tried to answer in. In. In tagalic.
A
Yeah.
B
And then. And then RuPaul was like, no. We actually have some Filipinos in the booth and they said, you're. You're lying.
A
Well, I disagree with you a little bit. I think she is. She's dying a thousand deaths. But in her mind, she's so cute. And she's so like, yeah, she thinks that's going off as cute and she likes it. Again, I think she wants to stay in the room because she thinks she's so cool and cute.
B
I think she knows she's doing a bad. There's no way Orra doesn't know she's doing a bad job. This is. It was wild. It was so wild to watch. And, like, I could see her confident as she answers it. And then RuPaul basically lets her know in uncertain terms that wasn't funny. And then she just loses all of her confidence. She's like, yeah, bitch. And RuPaul's like, no. She goes, oh, well, yeah, bitch.
A
And someone answering something so confidently shows to me a little lack of self awareness because you are Bitch, you're coming out of the gate. You are thinking that you are the Michael Jordan of Snatch Game, that you are nailing it. And to have that confidence and being so wrong, you are a little unaware.
B
Anyway, I'm going to give. I'm going to give A.A. 2 as well. Oh, I'll give. I'll give her a 3. I'll give her a three.
A
I give her a three and a half. I. I give her three and a half.
B
Two, three. Two, three. One, two. That was at the beginning, Lux. And.
A
Oh, lose the two.
B
One, two, two, one, three. Well, we definitely agree that's one. But two, that was crazy. I was like, y'. All. I'd have been like, y' all are literally arguing over who lost the best. This is crazy.
A
Okay, so now, Bob. So saying. Knowing. Saying that Joan Rivers and Amethyst were the only two funny ones. And the other group, we had three funny ones. You still think that this was the stronger group?
B
I agree. Again, I'm gonna reiterate. It's because they were. They were swinging bigger. This is also just better TV in general. But the other group, I respect someone like Spice just swinging huge and missing more than someone who's just not doing anything. And the other group had 1, 2, 3. 1, 2, 3. Four people who were basically not even playing the game.
A
Yeah.
B
Know what I mean? And at least we get to see you take risk. Like, what the fuck was Saucy Amanda fucking Georgina? What were they doing?
A
What was Georgina doing having fun by herself?
B
If I was, I would start panicking and start duck walking again.
A
Oh, wait, someone made a duck walk. Oh, what? Mitchell said something about we're flying chicken. Something she said about walking the duck. I was like, very. Oh, no. Maybe it was Tim Gunn. No, it's Mistress. I was like, very funny because Ru Love obviously loved that moment. And she giving. I thought it was very well done. I forget the joke. I wish I remembered it, but it was. It was very well done. Let's go on to the Runway. Oh, no.
B
She said it was. What is Michelle Visage doing the left side of the street? She said she walks her dog. And then they made that into walking the jock.
A
Go, right, right, right, right.
B
So as they. Before they go to the Runway.
A
Coming out.
B
Yeah.
A
What it talks about coming out. I have a question.
B
Yeah. Lucy Laduca said that she remembers exactly who in sixth grade called her A. And to that, I say post their. Say their names. Like, if you remember who. Lucy, bitch. Spill, spill, Lucy. Let's. Let's. Let us all know, we all want to have the information you have. I want to know their name, too.
A
Honey, do you. Do you. When did you, like, come. Come out? Like, when did you. Did you have. Because I never had a. Hey, everybody, I'm gay. I just kind of, like, told a few friends, and then they told friends. They told friends. I wasn't like a.
B
You would sing it. You would. You would write a song and sing it.
A
Yeah, I'm a singer, Bob.
B
That's what. Thank you for. Thank you for clarifying what I was. What I was getting at. I told my mom in high school right after I graduated. Like, the day I graduated high school, like, after my graduation, I told my mom and I told everyone else. Like, my first year of college.
A
Like, were you. Was it like you went to each person or you were like, hey, guys, I'm gay.
B
I bought a belt from Rainbow. From Spencer. It was a rainbow belt from Spencer's. And I wore it and I wore it around.
A
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That is so. That time. Oh, my God.
B
Oh, yeah. Very. That time. That is so that time. It was a studded rainbow belt from Spencer's.
A
What?
B
Jacob? I was gonna ask if it was studded, but you said it. Yeah, it was a studded rainbow belt from Spence. And I wore it basically every day to let people know that I was gay. It was actually my second year of college. So the other part of the thing is, like, I went away to Minneapolis to work for a while, and when I was in Minneapolis, I told them all that I was gay. That was my second year. Right. It was my second year. I told them all that I was gay, but I didn't know any of them. They were all people I met for the first time. It was my first time being out to people that I had never. I had no context for. And that was my trial run. Then I came home and I bought the belt work.
A
I just started sucking dick at Glory Holes and I let everyone fill into pieces from there.
B
Were you live streaming it? What was it on Periscope.
A
Periscope. But did you. Do you remember? I mean, you've been called a faggot before. Is there one that, like, sticks out to you?
B
Is there one on this podcast with you?
A
Oh, yeah. I've called you a faggot before, for sure.
B
I don't. I mean, one time that I remember. I get called a faggot so many times, though. I just. I don't remember the first one, but I remember one time, the first time in New York City, I got Called a faggot was me. Azraya Leapolitan and Delilah Brooks were all crossing the street. And to give you a visual of this, this is a. At the time, how we were presenting. This is how we presented the time. Kind of like a genderqueer, hairy, six foot, mohawky type. And then like
A
about like a witch in like black eyeliner, black nails, black dress.
B
Delilah Brooks, who has transitioned since, but at the time was presenting as a, like a, like a bald headed, like, like guido from fucking Brooklyn. Bronx.
A
The Bronx.
B
The Bronx, yeah, from the Bronx. And then Leopold, who has also transitioned, but the time was presenting as like, I think like a, like a, like a South Asian, like very feminine, but like kind of thick. And then me, who was like, at the time, probably like 6, 2. I probably had lots, like, I probably had like locks on top of my head.
A
My God, your little rock thing, that was so cute, Bob.
B
So we were, we were like, we were not tiny. We looked it. So this guy called us faggots. We were at Penn Station because he was leaving a Hawks game or not a Hawks game. Got him. Atlanta Knicks game. And then he called us faggots. And then Delilah Brooks turned around and was like, excuse me. Like, I can't do her voice because she has like a really high pitched voice. But it sounds, but it's, it's a very thick New York accent. Like a very, very thick, like, it, it's. It's so thick. It sounds put on.
A
Yeah.
B
Like it's like, oh, my God. It's like it's one of those.
A
I love her voice.
B
And she's like, excuse me, who are you talking to? And then Azraya and we. And the way that guy booked it
A
down and ran from us, because Azariah, if there's one thing, two things. Azariah has nerve and a mouth. Okay? Azariah will confront you, destroy with her words. Bob, I want to do something. You and I.
B
What was your first faggot? Oh, do you want to call someone a faggot for the first time? Do you want to be someone's first? Be that. Let's go do that.
A
What do you think? Do you think I want you and I to get courts?
B
You should, you should. You should call our listeners. One of our listeners out there has never been called a faggot before. Oh, if you never. Okay, so listen, Carl. I know there's a little Carl there. And you know what you are a widow faggot. Now you're gonna say I was your first one.
A
I would.
B
Carl's gonna Be on drag race season 48. And I remember who it was. I still remember who it was.
A
I want you and I to buy courtside Lakers tickets.
B
I'm already out. And I'm out. And for that reason, I'm out. What?
A
Can I finish?
B
Yeah, go ahead. Courtside. Go ahead.
A
I want us to be dressed in our faggiest apparel and be sitting bitch courtside. And I want us to be in the front row, legs crossed with our drinks and our popcorn, just watching the game. It just. Kiki Kakai.
B
I'll be so bored. I hate basketball. I mean, how much and how much is a courtside ticket?
A
I don't know. Maybe, like, 1500 bucks.
B
I think you have to be invited to say courtside.
A
There's a way to. For us to get it, I'm sure.
B
You know what? If we can get. We can get matching outfits. We should do it.
A
Yes. Okay, we'll do it. Let's cut to the Runway, shall we?
B
Oh, yeah. Who are the Lakers rivals?
A
I think it changes every year.
B
We'll go in their jerseys.
A
Oh, my God. Get jerseys.
B
Front row, even if they're not playing.
A
Oh, no. But we'll make them into Jersey dresses.
B
Yeah, obviously work.
A
Okay. The runaway RuPaul looks. RuPaul has her toes out. It's the first thing I noticed. I said, okay, Ru with her toes out.
B
Yeah, I noticed it, too. And I remember. I remember thinking, God, this shoe is fucking
A
Bob's favorite kind of. What is wrong with the shoe?
B
It just. It's a little biscuit basket. Like it. Like, it doesn't look. I remember thinking myself, oh, I hate this shoe. And I remember thinking, Monet's probably going to love this shoe. You know what it is? I've mentioned this before, like, a thousand times. When you're. When you wear a sandal, you're not seeing much shoe. All you're seeing is just one strap in front of your toes. So it's not giving me a lot of shoe I'm not getting. Especially when you have a big foot and it covers the entire side. So your big feet are covering up all the architecture of the shoe. All we can see is just a strap over your foot. That's literally all we see.
A
Because, Bob, some outfits do not need a pump. That outfit, if he. RuPaul had a black pump on, this outfit would be hideous. You need a sandal with this. It would. Oh, it's not so cute.
B
What?
A
A pump with this. With this dress would not be cute. Absolutely not.
B
I'm not arguing with you. I said what? I said. I don't. I don't think it's. I don't think it's a nice shoe. It's a fucking sandal, and I don't think it looks nice. I love this dress, though.
A
I think Rupa is great. This is my favorite RuPaul hair. I want a wig like this. I want, like, a synthetic. I used to wear these back in the day a lot, and RuPaul is making me want them again also.
B
I'm on. I'm on the main. The CV on the main stage. I'm right above the left titty.
A
Shut the up.
B
I am on the special guest. I'm on. I'm on her left titty.
A
You had. Yours was like a. You had a dress like this, but a mini.
B
No Monet. The guest, she has dragon whiskers on her shirt. I'm literally on her left titty.
A
Oh, are you.
B
Tell me you didn't watch Untucked without telling me you didn't watch Untucked. You're only getting half the story.
A
Oh, my God. I did watch Untucked actually.
B
She said, look, I have Evie, I have Bob, I have Simone.
A
Oh, yeah. I mean, I. I may have. I. I kind of. I dozed off a little bit towards the end, so I probably missed it, but I did watch and tucked.
B
When I said, y' all show boring as hell. When I said your Emmy Award winning show is boring. When is it my Emmy? Yes, it has work.
A
Michelle looks great, as usual. And Carson. Carson always looks great, too. I love Carson. This is a very cute suit moment. I love Carson so much.
B
That felt like a dig at Ross. All right, let's go.
A
My God, you're probably.
B
I said felt like. It doesn't mean it was, but it felt like. Can I just say my feelings without you getting wild?
A
Up first is Marcia. Marcia, Marcia, girl. This.
B
This look. This look was the catalyst for mistress getting bullied off of Insta. Getting bullied off. Kicked off Instagram.
A
I know, I know. She ended up getting kicked off and
B
you up right now. You. You can say anything you want about fat people, trans women, black people. If you say anything, girl, about a twink on Drag Race, a white twink on Drag Race, the fans will try to kill you. They will try to end your existence.
A
Well, we're not mincing words. This outfit was hideous, and it was so simple. The black belt looks stupid. I mean, what was she? She was like. She was like a. She's like a dentist. A dentist?
B
Yeah.
A
Like, and I get a bag of teeth. Oh, sure, I get it. But this is not a good, this is not a runaway look for Drag Race. I'm sorry, it is not.
B
You know, I don't think I feel as strongly as you do. I think it could have been something. She should have made this into a dress and not, she would have made this, the bottom part of this into like a nice dress if she also would have fucked up her teeth. Like, let's give us some blacked out teeth. Let's get some blood, let's get some rotted teeth. Um, I think it could have been really cool.
A
I think could have, but it wasn't. And like, and like, like the black belt alone just looks so, like, she just, she, like, she's, she's on the way out the workroom, she was like, oh my God, I need a belt. And she just like threw this black belt on. It's just, I, I, I didn't, I thought this was a bad look. This is a bad look.
B
I will also say this also, the belt is too big. The belt is way too big.
A
Like, and if, if your belt is big, bitch, get some double sided ST tape and stick it so it, so we can't tell like, was, was she
B
like, mistress, lend me a belt. Whose belt is this? Like, whose belt is this? But I, I, I think something I learned is when you have a white garment, you try to distress it by like painting it and making it look dirty. If it is white, you have to basically like paint the whole thing because it will just, it, it can't not look clean, especially under stage lights. So in her mind, this, this thing was probably distressed down, but when it's on stage, it just looks like, it just looks like she's wearing something that's white, you know?
A
Yeah, I, let's move on to luxe. London. Luxx. Noir. London.
B
See, see, that's the case, Rose better.
A
That's because you put that in my head.
B
London Noir.
A
You put that in my head.
B
Did you see she posted online, like how she made this? It was like she Luxx is so interesting.
A
What I didn't see, I'm just.
B
So she basically like this, to get this like wet look. She took the dress and she like soaked it in like a comp, like a mixture like Elmer's glue and like water and hodgepodge basically to make it look like wet or whatever, mod podge. But it, but it kind of just looks like a, like a stretch dress. Like, I don't, I don't see all this deep. They kind of just she was like. And I let it dry for four days over this, like, wex this, Like. I was like, it kind of just looks like a. Yeah, it kind of just looks like a stretchy dress.
A
Yeah. The only thing that looks wet and whatever is her hair, but I don't see the. Yeah, it just. I don't. Yeah, but that.
B
But.
A
And she's supposed to be dead or whatever it is, but her legs don't match the rest of her body. Like, the rest of her body is gray and her legs are just her skin color.
B
So she was also saying online, she was like, well, it was the lighting. The lighting made it look that way. Because if you look in other clips, you'll see that it matches perfectly. Lux is like. She really goes on Twitter and she, like, she. She will not let it go. She. She is going to, like, fight and argue and be like, I'm telling you, it's stunning. You have to believe me. It is stunning. I promise you, it's stunning.
A
No, because I. On watching the camera, I did not. And there's no shot of the camera. I was like, oh, there her legs go. Everyone always like, why are her legs brown and her body is gray?
B
In my experience, when you wear. When you do something like. Like a look like this, you end up buying one pair of gray tights. But all of the tights underneath are probably her skin tone.
A
Yeah.
B
So that's kind of glaring through.
A
Yeah.
B
You know, a lot of girls on drag race have tight issues where the tights look like they're just a weird color or something.
A
Yeah.
B
But anyway, overall, I don't hate this look, but I do think that she thinks it's a little more sickening than it is, to be honest.
A
I'm not a story where she was. Someone who was. They killed her by putting a cinder block on her leg and dropping her in an ocean. That's what she was to be.
B
Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
A
Got it.
B
And I think the bit is you supposed to get, like, a pair of concrete shoes, but they. What they normally. I mean, they do this too. But I think the. The. The bit is they. They put you in concrete and your feet so you can't even kick at all.
A
Yeah.
B
Anyway, that would. If you. If you have hopped down in. Inside of a concrete block, that could have been really fucking fierce.
A
Let's go on to Malaysia. Babydoll Fox, who for the third Runway in a row, is wearing a white ish, iridescent colored gown.
B
And she. The horns are back.
A
Horns. Oh, my God.
B
Like, every time the ears are horns. Every time. Like, every talk is. The category is beautiful nightmare. This just honestly kind of looks like she just had a dress made and then was like. And I'll just do creepy makeup. Like, what's. Like, what is going.
A
Feathers.
B
Like, is she a vampire girl?
A
No. I think. Yeah. I don't like the fact that you came to Drag Race and you put three. You were packing up for Drag Race and for three of your runways, you had something in this color and did the same silhouette and hair similar. Like, come on.
B
I can't remember. I can't remember her first hair, though. I don't remember. But she wore the ears when she walked in the workroom.
A
Yeah.
B
And then she wore them on the last Runway, and then she's wearing them again, this Runway.
A
Okay, bitch. Are you saying ears? You keep on saying ears. You mean, are you saying hairs?
B
Ears. Like. Like, the first time, there are fox ears, and this time they're horns. And I think last. I think it's because she's a fox. So I think the first time they were ears because they were.
A
I couldn't see what I was saying. Here's.
B
No, but that's. You. You say hairs, I say hair, like everyone else in the world.
A
I don't know. I'm gonna keep on listening a little more astutely to what you're saying, but
B
I just don't get how she's a beautiful nightmare. Like, I don't get what's going on. Is she a zombie? What is happening?
A
And the feathers just tick me out. I don't get it.
B
Let's move on to Mr. There's a lot of spiders on the Runway. I. I think this looks cheap.
A
Yeah, the little. The cage webbing thing is very cheapy. Cheapy. I agree.
B
I don't. I don't like cages. I don't think I've ever seen a Runway, a cage in the Runway, and be like, oh, I love that. I don't think I've ever liked it. I think it looks bad every time because it just looks like it's made out of really cheap material. Like, every time I see a cage in the Runway, I'm like, this looks like it's made out of cheap material.
A
I love her hair. I don't know.
B
No, I think if I had. Like, if there's a wire cage, maybe, but, like, it's this kind of cage. I don't like. I don't like this look. All I like is her makeup and her hair. That's it. What about Monet's cage and her veiled Runway look. I did not think. I did not think it looked particularly nice. No.
A
My cage was stunning. Bitch. And RuPaul said, oh, my God. Oh, my God. No. Sorry. He said, oh, my. Wait. No, I'm gonna find a clip.
B
Incredible. I don't think it was the cage, though. I think the look was great. I don't think it was the cage page.
A
It was the whole look.
B
Well, you know what? You don't need my approval.
A
You have RuPaul, I sure doubt.
B
But I just. But also, that material, I just don't like. It doesn't look. It looks cheap to me anyway.
A
Yeah.
B
I don't.
A
I. I don't understand why she had. I guess all the white pieces are supposed to be webs, and the webs are like a collar on her. I agree. This look was not her strongest. And Isabelle so far. Isabelle, Mistress so far has given us some really great looks. This is not.
B
Her name is Mistress Isabelle.
A
True. But I think she goes like M
B
M.
A
Ms. Chevelle Brooks. Let's go on to another spider. She was doing a black widow moment. Anetra. I did not like this look.
B
I don't hate. Was a little short.
A
Yeah. The gown was too short. And I guess she's supposed to be like a deconstructed. This is supposed to be black widow in a fashion kind of way. But it's just like the silver chains to be web's didn't look great.
B
And she had Anitra's fading into the background, which I. I really hate because she was so good in that first episode. But honestly, it was her talent. Her. Her, like, personality has never really been in the forefront. And she's fading. It's giving. Fading.
A
Yeah. I was waving.
B
Let's go on to
A
Selena.
B
Selena. STDs. Is it STDs, like sexually transmitted diseases?
A
She. Yeah, I heard it's supposed to be titties and. And also STDs. Yes.
B
You know, we've seen a version of this in the Runway, and it was done. Yeah. Lawrence Cheney did it. Can you bring it up, Jacob? Lawrence Chaney did it. And baby, when I. When I tell you was impeccable.
A
Yeah.
B
And, and, and, and the thing is, by this point, you. You got to know what's going to be up there, what's going to be, what's going to be, you know, what's been on the show before. And you're going to be compared to people in the past. And Lawrence Cheney just did a. Oh, shit. Is such a good Version of this look. So this look is fine. This look is perfectly fine to me. I don't understand why so much of her torso is showing, though. There's so much torso showing.
A
Lawrence Chaney
B
leather look.
A
Yeah.
B
Or skin face look. Or skin face look. Did you find it?
A
Leather didn't come out. Let me try skin face.
B
Leatherface.
A
Oh, I didn't put Chaney.
B
I got it.
A
Yeah.
B
Lawrence ate this look up. It was so good. Good. I'm.
A
I see. I see it. I see Jacob. I see it.
B
The way Lawrence ate her season. The way Lawrence ate her season. She was amazing.
A
What was the. What was the category for this when Lawrence did it?
B
I don't. I don't remember. I do not remember. Maybe. Maybe two in one monster looks.
A
Oh, yeah, that's great.
B
Oky, kooky and spooky.
A
She looks great.
B
She looks really good, but yeah, no, Selena looks fine. There's too much skin showing that it really kills the nude illusion. The point of it. The thing about a nude illusion is you can't show too much skin because the illusion starts to really fade away.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, this looks. She looks nothing like a noodle.
A
And also, she should have. She stopped it. She stopped the. The. Like, her skin underneath that, like, at the arm. She should have did her whole arm. So it all looked the same skin color.
B
Yeah.
A
Or did it in a power mesh. So it looked anyway.
B
But let's move on to Robin Fierce. Thing about Robin Fierce is she's okay. We have another spider thing about Robin is she's always pretty. She's so pretty.
A
She's a very pretty lady. And I love what she did with her makeup when she did her brows like this and that red stuff. I love, love, love the makeup.
B
The.
A
The spider arms. It's not really. It's like. It's like a. It's a spider garment in a Dior silhouette, which we. The Dior silhouette is classic. It's timeless. And she looks very classy.
B
And I know what.
A
I like it. I like this.
B
Me too. Yeah, It's a soft, too.
A
Yeah. I like this look. I like it. Let's go on to Lucy Laduka as Jason Voorhees.
B
Yeah, this is cool. It looks good. I think that. I think there's something to be wanting on the. The. The. The actual dress itself.
A
Like, what. What would you change about it? I don't know.
B
Maybe. I mean, maybe if there was some more ingenuity in the design of it. Maybe if it was like a. Maybe if it was like. And more interesting, maybe if it was just a more interesting silhouette, it just kind of just looks like a. A gown. Like, I don't think this was. It's not bad. I mean, she looks good, and her snatch game was so good that she didn't need to look that great, to be honest. But she does look good, though.
A
Yeah. I thought this was a really good look. I love it. Cause we all know Jason wears that one piece working man, blue collar suit thing. But I love that she made this into a gown. But also she still had pants under it or something. Like dickies.
B
Like a dickey.
A
Dickies. Yeah. But she has the spats under it or the. What you call it. What's the other word? That thing I wore on my lip sync against Mayhem Miller.
B
Chaps.
A
Chaps. I think they're chaps or spats. Whatever they are. I love that she had.
B
I think they're just boots. I think they're just boots, actually.
A
Oh, well. Yeah, I think this is a really good look. I love how she, like, broke the. Broke the mask and she had half of it kind of her eye, almost like a Phantom of the Opera moment. I think this is a really good look. I really enjoyed this. I would wear this for Halloween or something. For like a Halloween ball or something.
B
Let's go on to Sasha Colby, who is a tree, A spider. A spider tree, a witch, a swamp witch. I don't know what she is, but she. She looks amazing.
A
I like the gown. I don't love the makeup.
B
I do.
A
I don't know.
B
I think that Sasha Kobe might actually be doing, at this point in the competition, the most diverse makeup in the entire competition out of everyone.
A
Is she.
B
Yeah, I think she's switching it up the most, actually.
A
I don't know. I haven't pay attention that much, but, yeah, I wish that the gloves were maybe. I wish because once they can be.
B
The gloves are my favorite part. The gloves are my favorite part.
A
I like the fingers, but I. We know how, like, these look like just satin gloves that we buy that you can buy at B and Q Trimming or any store in New York and just put things on it. If she. If there was a way that she could incorporate those vines to, like, come out of the gloves, make it, like, feel like it was one thing as opposed to just, like, satin glove things on them. I think that's what's taking me out of it. And I. The makeup is not my favorite, but I think the gown and her, obviously, her fucking body looks incredible like this. These are the premonitions. I Have of what I think I look like. Right. She looks divine. But the gown.
B
There was a great moment during Untuck where she looks at, like, spice or sugar. And she goes, pinky promised me. And they're pinky promising with the long.
A
The shit really tailed. Let's go on to Jax. I was impressed by Jax. I thought this was a good look. I really like this look. I wish the snake prosthetic had more detail, because you need. There are no contours or highlights in it, so it just looks like a thing on her face.
B
Well, that's the thing. There are dimensions in it, but it seems like she didn't go in and amp them up. You really got to get into the shadows.
A
Yeah.
B
Especially after you've covered the whole thing in foundation. Then you have to go in and really get into each and every crevice.
A
Yeah.
B
Because this is tv, mama. You know what I mean? And I think being a snake is kind of hard. We've seen a snake. Oh, no. It was the wrong way. Alexis Michelle was a snake for something in New York City. I can't remember was. But snakes are kind of hard. It was, look, queen. Look, queen, animal. The thing about snakes is that snakes are just like ink. The whole thing is like. They're just tiny. They're so skinny. So even the slightest curve is going to make you look a little unsnaky. So I kind of wish that her. Maybe her hands were snakes or if, like, maybe if somehow she could create an illusion where, like, her head is the snake and then the snake is, like, wrapping around, but her body. I don't know. I don't. I don't. Maybe. Maybe I'm out of mine. But she does. But long story short, she does look good, and I like this look. And I agree with your critique. She should have gone into the dimensions on the skin a little bit more.
A
Yeah, a bit more. And also, as someone who made the mistake of going on TV and giving a nude illusion with no belly button, my eye goes immediately to her middle. I'm like, where's the belly button?
B
I don't think this is supposed to be a nude illusion.
A
I think she's supposed to be, like, a snake lady with snake tattoos and a toga sarong on her. Am I wrong?
B
Oh, I didn't see it as a nude because it's like leather. Oh. Cause she's a snake. So the nude illusion isn't that she's like human skin. It's leather. Because snake skin is, like snakeskin. But there's no Scales on it, which is confusing. And I feel like there's a lot of fabric out there that has scales on it. Like, reptilian skin.
A
Yeah, we know what. We'll go to an Instagram post when she posts a look, and we can find out what exactly is going on. But I thought she was supposed to be naked.
B
This is the very last time we'll ever be looking at Sugar Spice that they've seen.
A
I'm salted by these ugly looks together. Yes, you're right.
B
You think they're ugly.
A
I hated these looks. I hated it. I hated it.
B
I think they're perfectly fine.
A
I disagree. And I have been really enjoying the Spice Twins. I mean, the Powerpuff Girls or the Spice Girl, whatever they are. I've been really enjoying them. But I think this. These looks are tired. Especially that black and white one. I have literally seen someone get that from a Halloween. What you call a Halloween adventure for Halloween. Like, nothing about that is exciting.
B
I'm pretty sure these are custom made. Honestly, I don't. I don't hate them much as you do. What I really don't, like is the way these two walk. The Runway is so weird. Like, it. It feels particularly unglamorous the way these two, like, especially Spice, was doing, like, this. Like, I was like, what is happening? What is going on? And also, this may sound really tiny, but something that irritates me when people do this. When you walk and do a step with a hand claw thing. Are you looking at me, Monet? Look, when you do the same hand and the same foot, it looks like this. But when you alternate the hand and foot, it looks like this. That's the one you want to do.
A
But the key thing, Bob, honestly, I'm not even trying to be a funny thing. It's people with rhythm, people who don't have rhythm, they don't feel how off that looks and feels.
B
And you're like, yeah, alternate the hand and the foot. That's the one. I promise you, that's the one you want to do. But also, like, can you just. Maybe I'm too bland in this part, but can you just walk the Runway? Can you just. Can you just not go like. Like, just walk the Runway, please?
A
Yeah, I think I'm not a fan of these looks. I think if anyone. If Malaysia came out in this outfit, if Mistress Isabelle Brooks came out in this outfit, if fucking Anetra came out in this outfit, I would. We would all be like, bitch. Really? That. And I just. I don't think these are exciting. At all. And I think for the Halloween, whatever it is, what is it a scary, scary time. Whatever the category was, it was a chance to be really spooky.
B
Beautiful nightmare.
A
Beautiful nightmare. And again, they're always beautiful. Like, give us the nightmare part. Sell that part of the look more. And I think spice, sugar, doing the sugar. You can do this kind of scary doll and be more nightmarish. It's too pretty and nice all the time. And they're just a basic look.
B
Me and Jacob almost broke up over amethyst look. Because I really like this.
A
I love this.
B
Well, Jacob was like, why is it beautiful nightmare? Maybe because this was the middle Amer. Maybe because Lady Gaga was middle America's nightmare in 2010 when she was at the VMAs and she started bleeding. She was middle America's nightmare, honey. She also. She looks like fucking Lady Gaga a little bit.
A
She does. I really. I wish I just like this look. I thought it was really great. We all know this was Lady Gaga's paparazzi performance when she did this. And because at the VMAs, she was swinging from the thing, bleeding. I wish she had the blood. She should have had a blood pack in her wig and popped that shit and blood coming down her face. That would have been even. That would have been fierce.
B
Monet.
A
What?
B
Our cringe queen is back,
A
You know, and like, like, just walk, Walk the Runway. You have to do this whole production. Just walk, walk down the Runway. When you turn around, when we start
B
it, it'll be like, oh, whoa, give us a little. But like, she is. It's too much. It's too much.
A
You sound like Lorianne Gibson. Too much Taquita. I said this, not this. She's.
B
Oh, my God.
A
She is Taquita and Lorianne Gibson. Like, Lorianne said this. Did she? This aura. Like,
B
I was like, I was like, what is happening? What's happening?
A
No. And this is a great look. This is such a cool look.
B
The look is phenomenal. I actually, this is what. This one of my favorite looks of the night.
A
Actually, this is my favorite look of the night.
B
But, man, you gotta stop this. It was wild.
A
Such a great look. And the hair was great. Her makeup looks stunning. And the dress is such a. Such a, such a powerful dope ass look with the cringiest reveal of this thing. Like, what are you doing?
B
What's your favorite look of the night?
A
This or mayor's look? Hands down, I want this gown. I would wear this gown. This is. This is so sickening. This is so cool.
B
But I feel like you were just critiquing the twins for not being, like, ugly enough. And. And this is extremely beautiful. And your critique for the twins, like, it's not ugly enough. Give us more of the. Of the ugly.
A
Well, but I think that the.
B
How.
A
The way that, like, this bitch having, like. Like, someone slashed the entire back of her body open and her. That. That her vertebrae is showing and she's bleeding down the back of it.
B
That is grotesque.
A
It's. I think it's. It's really stunning.
B
I'm gonna give it to Sasha Colby. I really like Sasha Kobe's look. I. It's so good. I think I would if the one I would wear most likely is Ora Mayori's, but I just like the way Sasha Kobe looked when she came out on the Runway. Sasha Kobe is doing, in my opinion, the perfect amount of, like, working the Runway and selling the garment, whereas where. It's. Where she's not, like, doing something like, what sugar and spice or. Or doing. She's giving you a little bit of the nuttiness, but also just Runway, you know?
A
You know, who's also a really good Runway walker and can, like, really sell a garment. Thank you, Raja o'. Hara.
B
Oh, I thought you took women.
A
Oh, Raj o' Hara can sell a garment. She's really good at walking the Runway.
B
What. What about me?
A
You're really good at walking the Runway too, Bob.
B
Wow.
A
So easy. Anyway.
B
That was easy.
A
I was gonna say. Oh, I just. I just have. Yeah.
B
So you did. What did you watch?
A
I did watch Untucked, and I. I was gagged at a couple things. Obviously, the mistress drum with Marcia and
B
Malaysia was really sad about being safe. I was like, girl, you better relish in that safeness, honey. I was.
A
I've never been one except in All Stars 7, where I went, like, not seven challenges, not winning. When I thought I was doing a really good fucking job, I was annoyed. But you're only four episodes in, and there's still, like, there's 17 girls here.
B
Like, imagine being Amy, who's been in the bottom twice already, hearing some bitch complain about being safe. I'd be like, bitch
A
again. We're getting more about Lux's delusion. Her being like, I was high safe.
B
I'm like, bitch, what the fuck?
A
Are you a high safe?
B
What is
A
delusion?
B
Is it a bit.
A
I don't think it's a bit. I think the Lux is one of these girls who. She thinks that the fucking sun rises with her asshole in the morning and sets when she takes a shit at night, I think that that what Luxx really thinks about herself, which, honestly, there is something fierce about that. When people are like, bitch, I'm the best bitch.
B
I'm the baddest.
A
I can write the best verse. I can sing the best songs. I'm like that. That can take you through life a bit. I really, honestly think so.
B
She's kind of Valentina this season. She's the Valentina of the season.
A
Valentina. Oh, my God, yes. The Valentina delusion.
B
Yeah. I'm certainly not. I'm not mad at it. It is. But it is funny. Like, it is fun to watch her, like, be in the be safe and her be like. But I was at the very top of the safe. Like, of all the safe ones, I was the least safe, but the closest to winning, for sure.
A
Which was not true.
B
But that doesn't matter to her. She. You can't tell her otherwise.
A
If there was a high safe, I would give it to Mistress,
B
who was the other. Now there's so many fucking contestants. Jesus Christ. I mean, I think Amethyst was a high save. I think that Mistress was also a high safe, and I actually think that Marsha was a high save, too, even though her outfit was kind of hideous. Do you know Marcia also has to.
A
Do you know who? We didn't say who. Lux.
B
We did not say. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, yeah. I don't. I don't think her Runway look was particularly great. Neither was her Snatch Game.
A
Her Snatch Game definitely wasn't. But she. If anything, because of that Snatch Game bitch, you were bottom safe.
B
So this is when Mistress goes over and tells Mar that she thinks that her outfit looks cheap.
A
I didn't see that part. I fell asleep for that part of him.
B
Mistress looks at Marsha and goes, your outfit looks cheap. Which is a trigger word on Drag Race. Telling Grouch looks cheap on Drag Race if she's not, like, a proud, cheap queen. If you tell Evie she looks cheap, Evie will be like, thank you. I don't think Marcia prides herself on being a cheap queen. I don't think this is a pillar of Margaret's drag. How cheap it looks. Not Margaret. Sorry. Marcia's drag. How cheap it is. I just did.
A
You are becoming your mother and RuPaul. I don't think. I don't think Mary thinks that she.
B
And then Mistress got her account reported so many times that she had her
A
account disabled on Instagram.
B
I don't know if it's back yet, but, yeah, that's crazy now the Twinks are the Twinks. The twins. The twins say, listen, if we don't get a double Shantae, we're both leaving.
A
I saw that and the other girl talking.
B
I was like, let these bitches go. Let them go. Let it go.
A
I tried so hard to convince them. I'm like, y' all are right. Like, I'm like, why would y' all want someone to stay? Tell em. Yeah, that's a good idea.
B
I wouldn't say anything. I would just be like, mm, I get it. And sip my fucking House of Love mocktail. Like, they are. They. I would have. But also, the twins were. They were. I don't know what they're hinting at, but apparently their home lives were an absolute disaster. And they don't have connections to anyone in their family.
A
I know.
B
Which I didn't know that they were going through this. I saw the videos of them, like, putting their brother in drag and stuff. I thought they were just all like, a big, happy family. You never know what folks are going through at home.
A
If the twins. If the twins had said that, I would have went, like, when, like, everyone, like, separates and talk, I would have been like, girl, you're right. I'm like, you guys, like, have been. Y' all started drag together. Y' all have been doing this together. Like, y', all, like, together. And if one of y'.
B
All.
A
If it's not a double Shantae, I think that we will all love and respect y'. All. I think it would be the best look for you guys if y' all to lead together. Like, for sure. For real. Real. RIP.
B
It seems like the twins are trying to, like, like, tell the producers. Like, you can't send us home because we have more story to tell. I'm like, well, bitch, you better start telling it now because you might. I think you're leaving you. If you have. They're like. One of them was like, like, well, we haven't even talked about this. We haven't even shown these ideas. Like, well, you better start showing all of it in this moment, because the weather, like, we also have, like, salt, pepper. Salt and pepper. And I was like, but they also just seem like the same character. You just change your names and your accent, but, like, the character is, like, still kind of giving the same thing.
A
Yeah, give us.
B
You drive me crazy. Someone said this the other day, and it drove me crazy.
A
I know.
B
It's such a little thing. One of the things, it was like, this outfit or this. It was all black and white. And someone's like, oh, I love that monochromatic black and white. I was like that. And I'm like, I don't want to sound like a. Whatever. That's not. That's literally not what monochromatic is. It has to be one.
A
One. Yeah. Anyway, mono.
B
You ever had mono?
A
No. Have you? Me either. Never.
B
Not once.
A
A lot of people in college used to get it, though. But I wasn't kissing anyone.
B
The kiss. The kissing sickness.
A
The kissing disease. Yeah.
B
Now. Now Covid is a kiss and sickness girl.
A
So the twins. So Loosey LeDuca wins the challenge, and rightfully so. I think her Runway was great, and I love her Joan Rivers. I think this is well deserved. Do you agree?
B
I agree. Yeah. I can't think of anyone else who deserved to win over her. Literally can't think of anyone.
A
Yeah. And the bottom queens are Spice. Was it Spice, Aura, and Sugar. Well, those are three. And Aura was safe. Yeah, Aura's look saved her, but.
B
Yeah, I think so.
A
Yeah. Aura's look saved her, but what I'm gonna say. Would you have put one of the twins over Aura? I don't think so. The twins are both.
B
Okay. As a producer thing, I will say this. First of all, I think the twins were both the worst. I think that Aura's look is better. And also, if you put Aura against any one of these twins, this one's going home. And we will never get our twin on twin lip sync. I think the producer, like, this is the only time we can do this. We gotta do it now. We're never gonna get it. You know what I mean?
A
Yeah.
B
Although someone online was like, I love that they choreographed the number together. Cause they knew the producers were gonna put them together. Very smart. And I was like, I honestly don't think you have to be smart to know they're gonna lip sync against each other. Like, I don't think you even need to have two brain cells to rub together to know that these two are gonna lip sync against each other at some point. I didn't know it was gonna be this early. I don't think the producers did either.
A
And that being said. Yeah. So you choreographed this, this run this. This lip sync together, and that's what you came up with?
B
Yeah. This. It was not. This was a very. At the end. Do you notice that? That Tim. Not Tim Gunn, Marcia Carson Kressley is just like. Because go to my Instagram story. You can see right now on my Instagram. I posted on my Instagram story after the lip sync. Tim Gunn just Goes. He's just like.
A
You mean.
B
No, that's Carson Kressley. Carson Kreston is just like, what the fuck are these two doing? Like, what is that? Cause, girl, Sugar was all over the place. Carson, isn't it great?
A
Yeah, it was. I mean, yeah. The fact that you had, like, you planned this just like you had time for a Snatch Game and to plan bits that you've been doing all season long to make your Snatch Game foolproof, you planned this lipstick, and that's the best you came up with. One of y' all go home. Bye.
B
And I just love watching Carson. Carson. Carson goes
A
like he's a hostage girl.
B
Well, it's. It was. It was very uncomfortable. First of all, Sugar just is. Has fallen two or three times. Alicia Keys. When I perform Alicia Keys, I keep on falling. Also, I mean, no, this is the Pat Benur song.
A
Love Is a Battlefield.
B
Let's get Hit Me with youh Best Shot. Like, this is the one we're doing.
A
I think Hit Me with your Best Shot has been on the show already.
B
Do it again. We've had repeats. Bring them back. Have we? Yes, we have.
A
Oh, yes, Supernova.
B
We've had more. We've had more than one repeat. We have quite a few. This was not this. This. This was not a good lip sync, and this was not a good week for the twins.
A
I will say I'm happy the Spice is here. I. I've expressed that I. Spice seems a little. Just a little more seasoned, and I just gravitate more to Spice's drag.
B
God damn. Sugar's already down one day, you know, and now you're about to get your fucking Instagram account banned. Yeah. Yeah, Honey, the sweet. The sweeteners about to come for you.
A
Honey. Sweeteners.
B
That's what Sugar's fans are called. The sweeteners are about to fucking Spice this report.
A
Spices. Spices. Fans are called the fucking chili peppers.
B
Let's everyone go and spam Monet's page with kisses. Like Sugar. Just spam Monet's wall with Sugar.
A
There's literally a Sugar emoji. There is a. There's like a candy emoji. Yes. You know, you wouldn't know. Cause you have a motherfucking Android.
B
You know, Samsungs have emojis. Do you know that?
A
But not the same as us, honey. And y' all could never have our emojis.
B
Okay, first of all, also, just so you know, when I text you, you get the emoji that your phone has, and then I get the emojis that My phone has. So we both have a sugar emoji, but you don't send your version. It comes to my phone as mine.
A
I know.
B
Tell me you don't know anything about phones without telling me to know anything about phones.
A
I know.
B
I'm going to begin spamming one. No, I'm going to begin. There's no sugar emoji.
A
There is. There's a candy. I said a candy.
B
Did you say that? Yes.
A
Tell me you're not an active listener. This nigga just not listening. Just talking about word about he. What he's saying and what I'm saying.
B
Did Monet say candy?
A
I did.
B
I. I am beginning spamming a Monet's wall with. With candy. Everyone, please, please spam Monet's wall.
A
And you know what?
B
And I don't.
A
Don't. Spice. Don't.
B
Monet did say candy.
A
Thank you. She said sugar.
B
And then after.
A
She said candy. Thank you.
B
After.
A
Hey, you know what? And don't. Don't waste the time by spamming Bob with that. With that chili pepper. Put some fucking green apples on that bitch. Now. Go on his TikTok. Go on his Instagram and go on his Twitter and every tweet that Bob tweets over the next week, put some motherfucking green apples in that bitch.
B
Damn, that's a heavy lift. They're not gonna.
A
They're not gonna do it. Yeah, they are. The monation is loyal, baby. You. You swear the monation. The monation are not bobbleheads. They're not fickle. The monation is, we're loyal. We're strong.
B
The monation is garbage. You mispronounce garbage.
A
Oh, my God.
B
Garbage,
A
bitch. Garbage. The monation is keeping your lights on. Okay? Know that black like that one time
B
at one of the towns we were at.
A
Monet. I don't do this.
B
Monet does this. At one time, Monet was, like, saying something, and she was like, yeah, Monat shouldn't rise up. And then like, that is not true.
A
You are a liar.
B
And then the people cheered. And then I was like, all right, let's do it. Bobbleheads. Make some noise.
A
Bob is. Y', all.
B
If you were there in the audience. If you were there in the audience, you were there.
A
Y' all believe that shit if you want to. That is not true. The way Bob will invent history.
B
Should we do the movie? Call Patty.
A
The way that Bob will invent history,
B
that you want to call Patty, I'll let you call your assistant. Do you want to call him eating
A
your damn Church's chicken.
B
Do you want to call Patty? You can call your assistant and he will even say that happened.
A
Honey, Patty's probably asleep. It is 10. Oh, all right. We can say that it's 10 o' clock at night.
B
Well, you can't say what time it is.
A
Yeah, we can,
B
Because do you remember that time?
A
Yeah. And they cheered loudly. And then when you said boba head, they cheered loudly for you, too.
B
Louder. Louder.
A
Not bigger.
B
Bigger. Yeah, yeah. Hang up. Cause you remember the truth.
A
Bigger.
B
I remember the truth.
A
Bob, you are literally full of shit.
B
Yeah. Hang up.
A
Patty's not going to answer. Please leave your message for. Oh, not his number.
B
Big girl.
A
Anyway, I'm excited. What's next episode? It's an acting challenge, right? Nope. Sewing. They're sewing.
B
And Malaysia said it's a room decoration challenge.
A
Whoa. They were sewing clothes?
B
No, I. I believe it's outfits made out of room decorations. Rip apart. Move. I think so. That's what it looked like to me.
A
Thank you, Jacob. Again, Bob is not an active listener.
B
Bob listens to hear what the hell he wants. Okay, first, it's not active listening. Watching a TV show's not active listening, first of all. And secondly, she had the big rooms. And then at one point, Malaysia does say, I've never sewn anything. But the whole thing was like these big rooms.
A
I didn't see the rooms.
B
So who's that? Active listening?
A
No, you don't have to listen to listening. Watching are the same thing now.
B
Yeah.
A
Anyway, I have to go. I have to go. Don't you. Don't you have to go?
B
Bye. No, you have to go somewhere. Go. Go. Disappear. Goes. Go anywhere. The next episode is titled House of Fashion. So I believe they have to make their own garments out of these. Maybe it's both.
A
Oh, Jacob.
B
I go in the bathroom and hide.
A
Go and hide.
B
You didn't even see the. You didn't even see the rooms. You never saw the rooms go in the bathroom and hide. They were literally sewing things.
A
Malaysia had an outfit on and then another bitch had an outfit on. They were wearing clothes that they made. Duh.
B
Disappear. Ghost. You need to act your age and not your. Not your. Your shoe size. You are a very old lady. You need to play your age and not 12.
A
Not 12. Bye. Anyway, I really do have to go.
B
Bye. Yeah, leave. Leave right now.
A
I'm not.
B
Yeah, leave now.
A
The recording so that I think.
B
Yeah. And then when he does leave,
Episode Date: January 23, 2023
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
In this episode, Bob and Monét dive into RuPaul's Drag Race Season 15, Episode 4: "Supersized Snatch Game". The duo dissect the unprecedented early, double-length Snatch Game challenge, drag Twitter beef, delusional queens, and the highs and serious lows of the Snatch Game performances. In their trademark, hilariously candid style, they also deep-dive into the Beautiful Nightmare runway looks, Untucked drama, and the much-hyped lip sync battle between the twins, Sugar and Spice.
Group 1 (Marsha, Luxx, Mistress, Anetra, Robin, Selena, Malaysia):
Group 2 (Lucy, Sasha, Jax, Amethyst, Sugar, Spice, Aura):
Bob and Monét bring their signature irreverence and shade to S15E4’s "Supersized Snatch Game", lamenting the double-length format, dragging flop performances, and celebrating Lucy LaDuca’s star turn. The Beautiful Nightmare runway gets both flowers and daggers, and the highly anticipated twin lip sync is deemed as much a miss as the mediocre Snatch Game it capped. Their dynamic, insider commentary is perfect for Drag Race super-fans hungry for both laughs and laser-sharp read-throughs of every queen's choices.
Original Language & Tone:
The hosts’ rapport is lively, profane, and rich with Drag Race lingo, full of playful (and pointed) banter and expert queen-to-queen critique, never afraid to call out delusion, Twitter drama, or a cheap look for what it is.
For the Uninitiated:
If you’re a Drag Race fan but missed the episode, this podcast recap gives you all the hits, misses, drama, and fan-controversy in gloriously unfiltered detail.