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A
Okay. Glamour. It's real. I'm drinking, like, theraflu tea with honey, echinacea, thyme. I don't know, honey and ginger. I'm on another planet. I'm on, like, medication. I'm feeling great, but I'm feeling loopy doopy.
B
Yeah. I was gonna ask you if on the Gua tonight, but I guess the answer is no now. Cause you're.
A
I mean, I'll probably go anyway.
B
I don't want to get sick, though. If you have a cold, I want to get a cold.
A
No, it's just that. You know what it was like? It was like, you know, we met up earlier this week. We were hanging out. Yeah.
B
Mm.
A
And then after that, I was feeling fine, and then I just kept going, and I didn't get a lot of sleep. It was cold out. I was screaming on a microphone. Cause, you know, I do my silly viewing party here in Brooklyn, and it was just lots of, like. And, you know, after a night, you're like, oh, I did it. And you're like, oh, my God. And. And then I kept going and kept going, and now it's like, oh, I don't feel great.
B
I just got over that, like, maybe a week and a half, two weeks ago, I had a very. I was like, couldn't breathe. I could not breathe out of my nose at all. It was horrible.
A
Well, you work so hard and you push yourself so much. It's like. It is important to be very lazy, everyone. I always call it a recovery day. I need a recovery day.
B
Recovery day is important. And speaking of recovery, let's go back to. Let's talk about RuPaul's Drag Race. Listen, y', all, welcome back to First Person. Wow. Not first person. This is sibling watchery. And today. Today we are reviewing the Lollaparuza Smackdown. Do you like these episodes of Lollaparuses?
A
No. Well, this one, I was like, okay. I like watching the girls perform. I also like the silliness. Remember season eight when we were, like, when we dressed up and we were doing Cha Cha Bitch? Like, many challenges that are really silly. I feel like it gives the girls personality. It spices it up, and it makes everyone think. Like, drag can be glamorous and fashionable, but silly. It's supposed to be silly. I don't know.
B
But also very fun. You know, drag has a lot of avenues. Drag has a lot of avenues. There are some girls who do not think it's a joke or a game or at all. And they're like, this is it, honey. I'm the only bitch ever. And some folks are like, nothing serious. And some folks are like, I'm only goofy and I never take anything seriously. And then you have. I believe you and I are somewhere in the middle where we do a lot of camp, a lot of. But also a lot of glamour.
A
I was gonna say, in our humor, we take it very seriously.
B
In our humor, we do a huge amount of fashion as well.
A
Bob the Drag Queen, 2023.
B
Now, listen. Okay, so off the bat, we just sent home Ora Mayori, and she has cursed everyone. She said her may my. I believe the quote is, may my dead father curse you all.
A
They laughed. And I was like, oh, my God. God.
B
Oh, yeah. It was something like, my dead dad's gonna haunt you or something like that. And they were all right.
A
It was very funny.
B
Everyone's like, I mean, what do you do? I mean, all you can do is laugh. I mean, like, what are you gonna say when someone says, me and my dead dad curse you. All you can do is laugh.
A
Well, here it is. I lost my mom. And that was part of, like, the story that when on season eight, they were like, you know, work that in. They were, like, really trying to get it. And I said, listen, I am very sad that my mom passed away. If it comes up in this preparation pressure cooker that we're filming, I will lose it. I'll start crying, and I don't mind. I'll share that with the world. But they were hiding under the tables being like, talk about your dead mom now. And I'm like, what? Are you all right? Like, relax, you know? But it wasn't like a big. Did Aura talk about her dead dad like that, where. It was a big joke with the girls. Did I miss that?
B
I. Well, I. I know. Okay, I'll do it. So apparently she did talk about Jacob. Apparently she did talk about it, but. But it didn't make the cut at the end of the show. Apparently, that's what she said online. That's what she said online. Anyway.
A
Okay. All right. So no context to all the viewers.
B
Yeah. So all we heard was, made my dad dad haunt you. So we're like, oh, my goodness.
A
Well, all right. Anyway, the girls really liked her. I always thought she looked like Ismael, like a young Ishma from Empress. New Girl.
B
Yeah. Yeah, she looked a little like Isma. And Jax has now lip synced two times, and she's. It's really weird. The girls brag about sending everyone home, but I'm like, what are you gonna do? Just Lip sync to the finale. Like, what are you gonna do, just lip sync every. I mean, also, to be fair, I believe that's what Cameron Michaels did.
A
Yeah. Oh, wow. Yes.
B
I think. Cause Cameron Michaels sent home Monet. She sent home. No, she battled against Eureka. Or was it Monet? Monet lip sync. I think Mon lip sync four times on her season. Yeah. I think car. Michael just lip synced all the way to the finale. Like, she was just like, I'm just going to keep lip sync until I get to the finale. That's what it was. Yeah. Yeah. And. And. And Lucy is. Lucy's like, I'm just. I honestly, I'm fuming that I was not in the top.
A
I know. That was like a big Alexis Michelle moment where she was backstage during. She's like, why didn't you all come together and help me look better and win? Shame on you. You're not my friends. And I was like, what is going on?
B
Like, I don't understand why. I don't understand. Like, I get it. You want to be in the top of, like, at some point. I'm like, lucy, listen, baby, you. You've been complaining about not being in the top almost every single week. Every week isn't your week. You had some great weeks. Snatch Game was you, baby. Snatch Game was you. Every week isn't your week. It wasn't supposed to be you every single time.
A
And that's okay.
B
And that's.
A
And that's fine again there. It's like, I never won a challenge ever, but I was always like, oh, I felt. Actually, I felt good, like, kind of being, like, good.
B
But this is also. Now we're being told there's. There's a little bit of Drag Race delusion going around. Men in Black feels like there's Drag Race delusion happening in the world. And, like, everyone's delusion about what they. Where they should be and who they should be.
A
Yeah. Are these, I mean, friends?
B
I mean, I assume they seem friendly for sure. I mean, friendly as we did.
A
I. They don't. We were like, hey, no.
B
I mean, but we were also fighting. We were one of the last season that was, like, fighting.
A
I know everyone watches their words, but, like, when you look at a girl's eyes, it's like you want to say something and you're not saying it. That pisses me. I'm like, just say it. Just say it. Just fight more.
B
Well, well, Men in Black is not afraid to say what she wants to say, mib. She's saying it and fucking and Luxx is in Malaysia. No, I disagree. Malaysia. Lux is mib. They are all just saying what they think. They are like, saying it, saying it.
A
Oh, yes. I love that you love, like, Malaysia so much. And Men in Black is like, I obsessed with this so much.
B
I love calling mistress. I love calling Mistress Men in Black because everyone, everyone posters mib. So I just call her Men in Black, which is really funny to me. Which is really funny to me. So, okay, so the makeup moments. So Men in Black says that Spice, Marsha and Lucy are. Are the easy targets, which I thought was weird because in the first episode, I thought it looked like Mara was a really good performer.
A
Yes, yes. Young and. Yeah, fun and she is. She is a really good performer.
B
She's very smart. She has very clever numbers. She's very athletic. She's. It's not just, like, pointless, you know, acrobatic. She's like, really. She does a clever lipstick. She does some really clever stuff.
A
So what was Malaysia thinking when she was like, I pick Marcia marshmallow?
B
Well, as you see down the line, Malaysia swears up and down she had no plan. I was like, this is when you need a plan. Like, if there's any time you want
A
to plan one person home who. Can you kick their ass? Who do that?
B
I would have chosen spice immediate right away.
A
Right?
B
Like honey.
A
Oh, yes.
B
Like, like, like, like when you're first learning to cook, grab a spice immediately. So. So Sasha and according to a Men in Black, Sasha and Anetra are the two that no one wants to go up against.
A
Yes. I love Anetra. I think she's cool, polished. Yeah, she's amazing, gorgeous, like, really can perform. And her body when she moves is very Brooklyn Heights.
B
I want her to get more camera time. I want her to get more camera time.
A
Yeah. Even this last episode, I was like, where's her? Maybe she's just not that spicy on the camera. She doesn't have those one liners. She's not speaking up.
B
I mean, that's a possibility.
A
Yeah.
B
Let's go.
A
Maybe.
B
Let's go into the looks from. From the. From the episode. Let's talk about the judges. Jacob, what is this picture? Oh, it's Ross. I was like, why is Ross by a the in this thing? Ross is like, standing outside. Okay, so RuPaul looks stunning. I love this look. This, like, black, wet looking. And she's doing this, like, short white hair these days, which was that short. I don't know how short it is, but it's like, it's small. Hair. It's not like big, long flow. It's like a short, little. I love this look. I think Michelle also looks great. I love that Michelle's back to wearing her leopard print, which is her favorite color. Michelle's been looking very stunning lately. Ross, can I get back to the bomber jackets?
A
Stop. So, Michelle, can we just take a second and worship Michelle Visage?
B
Yeah, for sure.
A
Just for, like, a second for me. I always loved her when we were on tours together. In person, she is so down to earth. Cool, supportive, and just, like, knowledgeable. Right? And just like a cool fucking chick. You know what I mean? And even recently, she's been looking more beautiful. And she's always been very open about her breast augmentation and the reasons. Did she always say, am I right? She never had any work done in her face, or is that like a. I don't know.
B
I don't know. I think she may have had some Botox and stuff, but I don't know if she's had anything else done. I don't know if she had anything done or not.
A
This woman is looking younger, fresher, softer, and healthy.
B
Maybe it's because she finally got something done. Do you think it's because she finally got.
A
I'm not hinting. I'm just flatly saying that bitch had. No. Maybe it's cause she only eats leaves and ginger or whatever. Right? Isn't her diet crazy?
B
Yeah, apparently. But she looks good. She looks stunning. And Ross is back to wearing his sequin jackets, which were gone for a while, but guess who's. Guess who's back in the house.
A
Rossi.
B
So let's go on. Let's go on to these. These performances. Okay? So up first, the first queen's name pulled is Malaysia. Malaysia chooses Marsha. Okay. But she says that she had no logic, no rhyme, no reason for choosing Marsha. And if you click the link, you can actually watch the lip sync while we're in the chat. So she choose. So Malaysia chooses Marsha. Would you. Who would you have chosen first?
A
Spice.
B
Immediately. Yeah, immediately. Oh, muted though, baby. Yeah. So as. As happening.
A
My sound might happen too.
B
I'm just playing in the background during mine. So what I'm noticing during this is. Okay, first of all, I'm like, okay, Marsha has already proved that she's a great dancer. Plus, Marcia has. Plus, this is what the issue is. Whoever you choose has the most songs to choose from. They can choose from literally any song.
A
Anything. Exactly.
B
So you were just letting this girl literally pick. Whatever. I would not pick someone like her. If it was literally. I do think that. That. That her backflip was a little unwarranted.
A
I don't. I think. Yeah. You don't think she needed it?
B
Yeah. I was like, I don't know if this is the part where you need to be doing a backflip. I don't understand why we're doing a backflip right now in this song.
A
I think maybe that girl was up there and she's like, I'm just gonna show what I can do right away. Boom, let's see.
B
I think so.
A
Yeah.
B
It was probably like. Like a thing, like. And also, so Malaysia tries to kick it in high, high gear. Malaysia does the crunchiest kick of. In the history of Drag Race. She's like, girl, get your leg up there. Up where? That leg did not. It was a full on 90 degree angle.
A
This kick also, this is my thing, and I'm gonna be a little saucy here. It's just like when you're here and you're on the show and you've made it and you're performing for millions of people, do your best right away and give 100% all the time. It was only when she was like, oh, she's doing well. I better step it up. I was like, just, what is. That's what it took. Just do it. I don't know.
B
What do you think of these? What do you think of these outfits?
A
Orange is definitely not my color. Orange and yellow.
B
I cannot wear that, either one of them on them.
A
But enough about me. What do you think about me and these colors? Bob,
B
I don't think I've ever seen you in orange ever.
A
Or yellow.
B
I must have seen an orange. I've known you for years. I must have seen orange at least once.
A
I've worn all of it. I just have really red undertones. So orange and reds are not really my thing. I was gonna say right when this girl's hair is amazing. Marcia's hair was literally growing out of her scalp. I was like, ooh, I love her hair. It was growing out of her hair head. I think Malaysia's makeup is, like, almost too much or something. I don't know. On camera, I was like, you are wearing a lot.
B
Something about her makeup. Her highlight doesn't translate on camera. I agree.
A
Yeah, it's like, too dark. I don't know. I don't.
B
I don't love either of their outfits. If I had to choose between the two, I prefer Malaysia's over. Over Marshall, because Marsha is just wearing bra Panties and gloves. Yeah, really? So, I mean, like. But also you're lipsticking, so be comfortable. So I get it. I wouldn't go crazy either. You know what I mean?
A
Yeah.
B
Yep, yep, yep. So in terms of this lip sync, Malaysia wins and I'm not Malaysia. Sorry. Marsha wins. And I agree with that, with that decision.
A
Yeah, me too. Me too. Me too. Me too. She looked gorgeous and she did it
B
and she did a good job.
A
I like the backflip. I think she won me right there. So I don't think it was unwarranted. I thought it was like, all right, bitch, you're here to play, you know, drag me.
B
All right, so fight me, bitch. Up next.
A
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1-800-contacts. So up next is Loosey Laduca. And she chooses spice, which is the right choice because I don't know that Loosey could have beaten anyone else. I don't think there Is another person.
A
Do you.
B
Do you like Lucy on stage? Lucy's fine, but I don't. I don't think her talents lie in lip syncing. I think Lucy's a good actor. I think Lucy's a good improv. I think Lucy's a good comedian. I don't think her talents lie in improv. I mean, lie in lip syncing and dancing and.
A
Gorgeous.
B
She's very stunning. She's very stunning. Yes.
A
Do you know who she looks like now that I'm looking at this? She looks like the child. Oh, I shouldn't even say this, but I'm saying anyway. Of Brooklyn Heights and Cherry Pie. Jesus, look at her eye off.
B
I have no comment. To me, she does kind of look. She looks a little bit like, who's the woman who sings? How many fucks do I give? How many. Erika Jane. She looks a little bit like Erika Jane, too, in this particular moment.
A
I gotcha.
B
So they. So Spice chooses Joan Jett. Do you want to touch me?
A
And.
B
And Lucy did a good. I mean, it's watching Spice. Like, okay, first of all, this was. This was not a. This was probably the worst lip sync of the night.
A
Yes.
B
No.
A
Oh, no.
B
Because Malaysia versus Spice. Spice was in the two worst lip sync.
A
You know what? I. Okay. I think her outfit was right for this. But it's just. See, I'm watching it again, and I'm like. I think after I did this, I was at a viewing party and the whole audience went, send them both home. Yeah, it was one of those, like, they gave 30%.
B
Now that I'm thinking about it, either one of these girls could have. Could have won or lost. And I'd have been like, sure. Because neither one of them ate the other one up. No one ate the other one up. And Spice just. Spice has some really weird, like, instincts on stage. Like, she just does the. I will say this in her defense. I've never seen anyone make almost any of these decisions.
A
Well, you know what it is. See, this is. The thing is, like, these are really young kids who grew up and what did drag during, you know, behind their screens, at their house. They didn't ever cook in life. You know what I mean? They never took time to cook and learn and look at an audience member and be like, oh, you like that joke? I'll tell another.
B
Oh, yeah, that's. That's not reading. This isn't working. Well, you're not liking this thing that I'm doing.
A
Yeah, because, you know, I've been doing this for 20. We've been doing this for 20 years or something. You learn how to do it and then they get on the show and I'm like, I don't. They're just not there. They need to cook. They need to live life a little bit better. And that's what you're like. I've never seen a performer make these decisions on the stage because they've never been on a stage before.
B
Yeah, I would do a drag now for 15 years. And I. And I. And I. Why are you laughing at me?
A
I thought that was a dig on how much older I am than you or something. I was like, wow, they were going to do this again, but, you know, you're just not.
B
You are. I've been doing drag for much less time than you've been doing it, because I am considerably younger than you. No, but I will say I did spend my first, like, seven, eight years of drag, like, hardcore. Night after night, all the time. Every. Even if I. And if I wasn't performing, I was at a club watching someone else perform. So I had a lot of time to take in what works. I had a lot of time taking what works. And I don't think that Spice has had that moment yet. Cause she. I was like, what is even happening right now? She's, like, facing the wrong direction.
A
I'm trying to get into her brain. I think if she's just sitting there being like, ooh, like a camera. You know how I'm sitting here with you right now looking at you? I'm like, this is it. This is like. This is what? You know what I mean? Like, ooh, my camera in my living room. Not like lights in your face, sweating, people screaming or booing and stairs and the edge of the stage and having to take it up with your body and your arms as a performer. And I think that's right. It's just kind of small.
B
Yeah. I think it's usually just her and Sugar in a room, like, rooting for each other, no matter what. You know what I mean? So loosey LaDuca's one. And I'm like, yeah, sure. I could see that.
A
Sure.
B
Like, I wasn't like, yes, honey. Loosey scrubbed Spice, honey. I was like, sure. Loosey Laduca won work.
A
Do you like this Lucy outfit with all the.
B
I love it. I think it's really cute.
A
Yeah, I like it.
B
I think it's really cute.
A
Yeah.
B
You don't like it?
A
You know what it is? I like very simple things. Suits, you know, with one color and one button or one belt. And this is like, how many.
B
Can we post a picture of Thorgy wearing an absolutely crazy outfit.
A
Disgusting, crazy outfit with way too many bells and whistles. Fine, I'll take it. If you can find one, go for it.
B
Take a picture of Thorgy. Be like, I like it. Really plain and Thorgy just wearing.
A
You're horrible. But also, I want to see it. Also, you'll find one. Now people are gonna send it.
B
Oh, you're gonna find the craziest.
A
Oh, you're gonna find one from 20 years ago from when I first did drag.
B
Did you come out in the finale of Drag Race with like danglies all over your hair? Like your whole hair was like rubber cords?
A
Yes, but if you look at it, it was just as.
B
The outfit is sleek. The outfit is sleek.
A
That's what I'm saying. It's just very this, like, I don't know, it's like one of those take off two things before you leave the house.
B
The neon. You know the neon thing where you had like the brush.
A
No, I know, I know that. But then it was like really, like, I wore rubber bracelets and like one body suit. But it was simple. It wasn't like, shut up, shut up. You're kind of right, but shut up. You're like, just simple. Not too many things. Got it. Rubber tubing.
B
Let's go on to the fourth lipstick of the night. No, the third lipstick of the night, which is Luxx Noir, gets chosen and she chooses Selena as titties. And Selena chooses All Coming Back To Me now, which is a perfect lip sync song. I would have chosen this All Coming Back to Me now is one of the best songs you can lip sync to for a lot of reasons. One, you have Celine Dion doing basically all the heavy lifting for you. You just got to show up to the party. And Celine Dion is doing all of the work for you. She is such. She's so animated in the way she sings. If you just lean into it and just like, have fun, you know you're gonna do a kick ass job in this lip sync, you know what I mean? Do you love this song?
A
Well, I'm go back. Yeah, Celine does all the work for you. Cause she just does these vocal acrobatics, you know what I mean? If you're a performer, let her do the work and carry it and sell it. But then I like that Selena was like, oh, I'm also gonna be really funny and entertain. You know what I mean? She took it to the next level and I love that she has this big face. I Have such a tiny face. I have, like, Sarah Jessica Parker face. Like, I look like a little banana face. Whenever these girls show up with these huge faces, I'm like, fuck you. Up yours. You can paint like Kim. I was like, kim, you have so much.
B
Kim has a big face. Brita filter. Big face. Big face. Men in black. Big face.
A
Anyway, but it's good when you're performing on a stage because you have so much to look at. And I think Selena used all of it. And I. That was really cool. That's what she won for me.
B
You know, Selena definitely ate. I mean, I prefer what Selena was doing. I really hate the edit of this song. Now, to be fair. It is a very long song. It is. There's a lot. The way they edited the song down, I just hated it.
A
I was like, you wanted certain sections. Yeah.
B
It was just so jarring. And they left out some of my favorite parts. And I get it. You can't. It's the. The episodes. The episodes are now 14 minutes long, so I get it, I get it. We can't.
A
And so is that song, so we
B
can't show the whole thing. I get it, I get it, I get it. And it didn't really. I didn't really look at Lux, to be honest. I didn't really look at her much.
A
No.
B
And then I'm, like, watching it now,
A
and I'm like, oh, she was there.
B
One of my favorite quotes, when Lux goes, honestly. She goes, honestly, I'm a little, very gagged. She goes, I just lost.
A
That's what you've been carrying this whole time.
B
She goes, honestly, I lost. No, I lost. And honestly, I'm a little, very gagged. That is so. What does that mean?
A
I'm a little gagged.
B
I'm a little, very gagged. That is. The way she speaks is so funny to me. She is fucking hilarious to me. But in true luxe fashion, she thought she should have won that lip sync.
A
Oh, of course. The best.
B
She was gagged that she didn't win. And of course, you know, our girl Selena Estees makes it. She is safe to esteem. Another day.
A
Another day.
B
Do you see girls doing your bits?
A
Oh, straight up. Doing my mixes that I, like, send. And then they just take my mix that I'm like. I sat there for, like, seven hours editing this. That's wrong. Where I'm like, you're literally just doing my mix. Like, ew. I think that's really off limits, isn't it?
B
Oh, it's shady. I've had people text me and be like, one time this girl wrote me and was like, hey, could you send me your Vogue mix? And I said, no. You know, I was like, no. I was like, I made my own mix. And she goes, okay, I understand that. Just send me all the clips you used and I'll make it myself.
A
Oh, okay, sweetheart.
B
I was like, no, it's my idea. Like, the whole idea is mine. Like, make your, like, do your own. I will never forget. It was a DM on Facebook or Instagram.
A
I was like, all coming back to me now.
B
I don't remember the queen. I don't remember the queen, baby.
A
If.
B
Right then I. Yeah, and I would do the thing and I would drop the baby.
A
I remember seeing it at Saliva. Like, Barracuda. Barracuda. When you had your show there on Mondays and you would do this. And now everyone does, baby. And then you used to kick it out into the audience.
B
Drop the baby and kick the baby. Yeah, that would freeze beginning. You guys want to go check it out on. On the Internet? I. There's. There's clips of me doing it. Honestly, I ate. I was really. This. This was one. This was one of my signature. Signature numbers. And that is part of being a queen who's not necessarily particularly new. If you've been doing drag for probably more than 10 years, like we have, or more than 20 years, like third year has, at some point, eventually some queen is going to be inspired by you and just do your bits and just do your songs, your mixes, wear your clothes and becoming you.
A
Jacob. To answer your questions. Emotions by Mariah Carey, which I've done for years and years and years, and tell it to my heart, Taylor Dane. I've gotten death threats and emails being like, thank you so much for ruining this song for me, because now they can't hear it the same way.
B
And that was. And that was just.
A
Yeah, yeah, she wrote me. She doesn't care for. Well, I can't talk about. It's a. It's a court thing now. It's actually legal. It's a battle.
B
So. Okay, let's move on to. To the fourth lipstick of the night. Mistress. Mistress's name is chosen, and she chooses Jax, which I think is a very fierce choice. I love that she chooses Jacks. Mistress is a fierce queen. Mistress is like, I want to. But Mistress is like, I like a fight. I. And she's very confident, and I think with good reason. So Jax chooses. Tell it to my heart. Speaking of. Speaking of your signature numbers. Oh, yeah, I guess it was those two. So I guess Jax is the best option out of those three, huh?
A
Yeah, fine. Perfect.
B
So Jax. So Jax chooses to perform Tell It To My Heart. And mib said that she chose Jax because she wanted Tell It To. So Men in Black is saying, I chose Jax because I want to do Tell It To My Heart. And I'm assuming that Jax will choose Tell It To My Heart, which, if that's the case, she ate that. That was very, very, very clever.
A
Yes, Yes. I like this pairing because I know Jax. Before she got on the show, I booked her a bunch in Brooklyn, and I was like, I'm in love with you. The way she is such an acrobat is kind of really original in how good she is. And I'm like, great. And then we have Men in Black, who also is commanding, gorgeous. I mean, just like, really funny, intense, gorgeous and physical for such a big girl. Love it. It is amazing to watch that happen. And I thought that was. This is going to be cool. I was excited for this lip sync. Oh. Jax was wearing this, like, wackadoo look, right? With, like, the overalls. Let's see, like, red, like a. Like, clown colors. It was, like, blue, yellow, red, and then, like, ribbons as suspenders. With pockets and patches on the knees. And then, like, a black boot.
B
Jacks is straight up dressed like a clown. Jax is just straight up dressed like a clown. And the hair is making it even more intense.
A
I'm now I'm like bozo hair. And then it's great. This is kind of. I'm, like, living for it. But also, it's kind of cuckoo crazy. Like a clown bra.
B
Yeah. I do think that the Men in black could have done her reveal at a better time.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
Again,
A
there was one lipstick that I always talk about with the reveal, where it's like, the music starts and the coat came off. I forgot who did it. And I was like, wow.
B
Was it.
A
Come on, please give it to me.
B
My favorite villain in the history of Drag Race is Aquaria and the cupcake. When Aquaria was wearing the big cupcake, she just put it to the ground. It was so.
A
No.
B
There's also when Trinity, the tug came out in that big cape, the mat, this, like, massive cape, it was huge. It went to the floor.
A
This would have been trained.
B
Yeah, it was. No, it was just a black cape with a collar with no details. It was just. It was fabric.
A
It was a curtain with a belt. Okay.
B
And so this is where I think, like, I get it, I get it. You do acrobatics. But, like, if you do it every time, and this is your third time lip syncing, you gotta switch something up. Like. Like Latrice Royale is a great example. Someone who doesn't do splits and kicks every single time she goes on stage.
A
Sometimes she chooses wisely when to stick it in.
B
Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Sometimes she just. She just stays there and she gets into the song. And sometimes she does kicks and sometimes she does splits. And it's not every time. You have to kick and sweat. Kenny Davenport is another great example. Someone who doesn't always go, like, dancing at 1,000 miles an hour. No matter.
A
You don't need it every time. Yeah, you don't need it.
B
So Jax loses her first lip sync. She is very gagged. She is. She's. Honestly, she's a little very gagged. And stop. And Men in Black wins. And I agree with her win. But Babe B, the other girls do not agree. They were like. They all thought she lost. Which I don't know if it's like an edit thing, but from what I saw. Mr. Gag.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
Would you agree?
A
Yes, absolutely. And especially after we've seen. You know what I mean? We've seen it, Jax. Right? So it's like, okay, I don't know. But yes, I do agree. I think Men in Black won, but
B
all the other girls were a thousand percent. They were like, we thought you were going home, baby. We thought you were done. So then she gets really mad and she's like, well, Lucy, I think that you lucked out by choosing Spice. Let's just say that. And then she looked over at. Over at. Not Spice. And then she looked over at Lil Mama Marsha and started reading her for something. I was like, she is back here. Well, they came for her because she came. Imagine you coming in a good mood. You're like, woo. Because everyone else got celebrated except Men in Black. Everyone that came in, they were like, woo.
A
I mean, I would be mad too. I'd be like, wait, what? You're gonna ruin my day.
B
They were like, oh.
A
Oh, thanks a lot for ruining my day. Thanks very much. Thank you.
B
That shit would pissed me off. So I don't know if I would start dragging immediately. But when you're in the pressure cooker drag race, I probably would have to be age.
A
Oh, yeah. Defense mode right away. And let's tear each other apart. Boom. Hey, it's Ryan Reynolds here for Mint Mobile. Now, I was looking for fun ways to tell you that Mint's offer of unlimited Premium Wireless for $15 a month is back So I thought it would be fun if we made $15 bills, but it turns out that's very illegal. So there goes my big idea for the commercial. Give it a try@mintmobile.com upfront payment of 45 for 3 months, $90 for 6 months or $180 for 12 month plan required. $15 per month equivalent to taxes and fees. Extra initial plan term only greater than 50 gigabytes. Me slow when network is busy.
B
See terms. So now it's down to Anitra and Sasha Kobe, and Anitra gets to choose a song. She chooses. I'm in love with a monster. I love this song. I love this song.
A
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
B
Is this the best lip. This is the best lipstick of the night.
A
Easy.
B
Yes, easy.
A
Both of them with their hair flips. Gorgeous. They both are just so in charge of their bodies. They're good movers. They're using their. It's just such good visual performers, both of them.
B
Yeah.
A
So I think it was a good thing.
B
I agree. I agree. That being said, Sasha ate down. This was easily. Sasha's round. The. The way she. The way she paced her number was perfect. The way she. She. She just did it. This was a very, very. There was enough variety in her moves. This was a great performance. Even if this wasn't lip sync for your life, if Anetra wasn't there, this would have still been a perfect performance.
A
Yes. And I got to say, what Sasha Colby was wearing, like, the whole outfit head to toe, worked to her advantage. It worked all together as a premium package for me. The outfit was amazing.
B
Yeah, I agree.
A
I mean, they both looked amazing, but,
B
you know, they did. But Sasha ate. And it is. It is. It is a competition, darling, and someone has to lose and someone has to win. And Sasha Colby has won. So now we're going back to all the girls who have lost. Now all the girls who have lost are officially back over the talking block. On round six, Malaysia is chosen first again. And this time she wises up as she chooses spice. So Spice choose the song. Don't go yet. And. And she's like, I know that. I know this. This is one of my favorite moments in the entire episode. She goes. I choose don't go yet by Camila Cabello because I know for a fact that Malaysia does not know these words.
A
Keep going. And then halfway through, she goes, favorite moment of the episode.
B
And then she goes. She goes. I look over and I realize, yes, Malaysia doesn't know the words. But then I realize, bitch, I don't know the words either. Why?
A
They're both just doing lots of this.
B
Spice is so weird. She's odd, right? This is an odd queen.
A
So odd.
B
Like, she just didn't think to the second part of that whole thing. And then at one point, she starts doing this.
A
Wait, I can't see you. I'm looking at the other screen. Hold on.
B
She's doing this during the conga line thing. And I was like, is she doing the. Is she doing. Hey? I was like, what is.
A
She was laying on the floor like this, just, like hanging out for like five minutes. I'm like, what is happening?
B
Who does this? Who does this? This was the worst lipstick of the night. Easily.
A
Easily.
B
This was. This one was. This one was horrible. Horrible.
A
Yes.
B
So Malaysia wins. Malaysia wins. Which I do agree, but not by. It's like. It's like when Lucy lips against. It's like marginally. You know what I mean?
A
Yeah.
B
Malaysia does win.
A
And.
B
And then when they go back, when she gets back to the room, Malaysia's
A
like,
B
why did you pick Marsha? Why did you pick. Marcia's like, I don't know why you picked me. And Malaysia's like, oh, I just kind of blanked out. And you were standing next to me. Do you believe that?
A
No. Also, this is why. It's like, just fight with each other. Just call each other out and be like, I thought I could win. I thought I could beat your little ass. You know what I mean? I want to. I don't know. I just don't mind a little fight sometimes. I don't mind arguing. I love arguing.
B
Did you fight on your. Did you fight on our season besides with me? Did you fight with anyone else?
A
I didn't even fight with. Did we fight?
B
We never thought we did fight.
A
Yeah, like, whatever. I just like to pick arguments. But, like, everyone I'd like to like, I'm definitely like a busy. I'll be like, bob, did you hear what blah, blah, blah said about you? And then I'll go to the other person and start that fight and then be like the medium being like, guys, don't fight.
B
Not an instigator. Not an instigator.
A
Yes, I am totally stir the pot person. So stir it, stir it, stir it.
B
So then for the seventh lip sync of the night. Oh, my God, this is crazy. Also, total side note, you know? Like, these songs are really expensive.
A
Oh, good point. So they. The budget for.
B
Yeah, I mean, the. Typically the cheapest you can get a song Typically the cheapest you can get a song for is like $20,000. That's, like, the cheapest you can get a song for usually. And we're already seven. We're already seven songs in. We're already at at least $140,000 just in lip sync songs.
A
The producers were like, everyone better watch this. Lip sync palooza.
B
Imagine spending $20,000 and then you get, you know, Spice versus Malaysia. Camila Cabello don't go, I don't know the lyrics. Like, we paid 20. I'm like, we paid 20,000. You bitches better learn some fucking lyrics to be this bitch, honey.
A
I mean, there was a lot of songs, but they. They had to have gotten these beforehand, right?
B
Yeah. Which is just too. Y'.
A
All.
B
We usually have one song to learn. These bitches had. These girls had to learn, and they
A
didn't know which one. So they were like, I have to be good at all of these just in case.
B
And obviously, they. Obviously, they didn't learn them all. Yeah, clearly.
A
Obviously.
B
So I'm like, this is. Ooh, this is too much. So then. So then we're down to lipstick number seven. Anetra, Lux, and Jax all are going. And then. And then they're doing the Right Stuff by Vanessa Williams. And the very first thing Anetra does is show us her pussy. The very first thing. She jumps from the ground, spreads her legs, which. I loved that move. I loved that move. But I will say this. Now all the girls are splitting. Dipping.
A
Yep. Oh, this was jumping floppy. I think when I watched it, I said, look at this. Three threesome as, like, a girl group. I'm like, they are all giving the most. The most. The most, the most. I'm like, I love it. I kind of loved it. It was great.
B
It got to a point where they were just routines. It got to a point where they were just doing splits and dips in the weirdest spots. You can do them just in spots that just didn't make any sense. Yeah, it was like. It was like. And I twist and telly dip you. I'm cartwheel. Not. You know, actually, you did do a cartwheel. You did do a cartwheel.
A
I know. Shut up. I was literally thinking about that. I'm like, don't you dare. And you had to use. And you had to use that lip sync where I went. You had to trigger me, send me back shot. Why did you. Why?
B
You did.
A
Why did you do a cartwheel? Do you know why I did a cartwheel? Why? Because you waved.
B
First you waved, and then you did.
A
No, I didn't wave.
B
No, Thorgy, I'm telling you right now, you waved. I will never forget this. You waved.
A
Maybe because the lyric was like, I'm not going. And then I was like, yeah, but I will. Bye. I don't know. What did I do?
B
No, the line was, don't you dare
A
pull this up right now. This is garbage. I don't wanna watch. I don't wanna watch this. No, because she. Chi Chi broke her stupid pearls all over the floor. And I thought, I'm not gonna be a fool who like trips over them. I'm gonna prove that. That doesn't bother me at all. I'm a strong performer. I'm gonna do a cartwheel over them. That's why I did it.
B
Wait, can we get the wave girl? Oh, my God, Vanessa Williams. Oh, my God, Vanessa Williams. No, that's Vivica Fox. Sorry. No, that's Vivica Fox.
A
Wow. Wow.
B
Well, it was a flash. I just saw her in a flash.
A
And then this was.
B
Then you waved.
A
No, I think. Shut up. Stop rewinding it. Stop rewinding it. Wow. This is going to be a gift now. And RuPaul, look at my rewind. Play it again. Look at RuPaul's face after I do it, she's like this. She's like, why did you do that? Look, look.
B
Her face, her face. Oh, my God. This was a. And during this performance, Chi Chi is. During this whole performance, Kimchi is on my shoulder, crying, dressed as a sad clown. She's literally bawling her eyes out. Cuz she was almost in the bottle. Do you remember this? Kimchi was almost gonna have the lip sync.
A
And she's.
B
I remember she's bawling. She's bawling her eyes out. And she literally says to me, she goes. She goes, I didn't know this would be so hard. Wow, that was a wild day. Anyway, back to this lip sync. So Lux. Lux wins the lip sync. Which I would have given it to Anitra.
A
Yeah, well, we are very much agreeing on every opinion with these lip syncs. Yes.
B
Yeah. I would have given to a. Not. Not that no one got. I don't think anyone got crushed. I don't think anyone got crushed. They all did a good job. But I would have given it to Anitra. I agree. I agree.
A
I'm watching again. Here is my pussy right at the beginning.
B
But the funny thing is, right when Lux gets back there, the first thing she's. One of the first things she says is, well, I got robbed for my first win and Then. And then Selena goes, but you didn't win.
A
Love it. Attack her as titties. You better.
B
She goes. She sounds. She was something like, I should have won the first time. She goes, but you didn't. But you didn't. And she was like, I did not. But I'm here now, which. Which is all that matters. Which. That was a. That was a really great moment. That was a very, very beautiful moment.
A
Oh, yes.
B
So now we're down to the eighth and final lip sync. And this is where we realize it's gonna be. It's gonna be another three way. We're like, oh, it's gonna be another. Another three way battle. It's gonna get crazy. But then RuPaul's like, a lot of
A
performing the whole episode, man.
B
It's eight. Eight songs. This is a minimum of $106,000. And RuPaul goes, well, what's gonna actually happen is I'm going to pick a girl's name. The girls whose name we pick will then choose to save someone. Like, this person would just go straight to the. You will go straight to the workroom. You will see next week, hands down, no questions asked. And everyone is probably thinking, she's going to choose Jax because Jax is like a harder lip sync. And then she says a great line. She goes, I can't lip sync against Spice. Would that be fair?
A
That needs. I need that on a hat or
B
I can't live sing. Would that be fair?
A
Is that fair?
B
And she would. She would scrub the floor with Spice Girl.
A
Yes.
B
The four of you.
A
Not until she whipped out the conga line. The cha cha. Would I have saved Spice?
B
No, honestly, I would have taken easy route. I don't need yalls respect. I don't need y'. All. I don't need y' all to be like, Bob, you're so brave. I need the crown, bitch.
A
Yeah.
B
I need the crown.
A
What's the fastest way to annihilate?
B
Literally, I would have. I would have. I would have bullied Spice on that stage. I would have bullied Spice.
A
I would have paid money to just sit in the back like this watching
B
that, and I would not have felt bad about it at all. You know, one of the biggest annihilations in the history of Drag Race ever was Peppermint vs. Cynthia Lefontaine on season nine. It was. It was. I can't remember the song.
A
Oh, what was?
B
The song was. Oh, hold on. The song was. I want to try to remember before Jake looks it up. J, can you mute while you're typing. It sounds like you're, like, stomping through the house. Well, it just sounds like. What was the song? It was. Oh, my God. I cannot remember the song. What was it, Jacob? Oh, it was Madonna music. Yeah. Music. It was not even Donna. They're all dressed as Madonna. And then she. Pep went bananas.
A
Bananas. And it was just like, she couldn't keep. Cynthia did.
B
And even when Pep did the Chance, I remember watching From Home being like, this is crazy.
A
Oh, I want to watch it again immediately.
B
Dressed like. Just like Marilyn Monroe. Yes, dear.
A
Bob, early in the episode when Mistress chose Jax, you said you thought that was fierce because she was choosing a fierce lip syncer and performer.
B
No, it's fierce that Anetra chose her. I wouldn't have done it. I think the fact that Anitra chose to save Spice is fierce. I would have not done that. I. I don't need to show y' all that I'm. I'll be fierce another day. I'll be fierce tomorrow.
A
Yeah.
B
Maybe that's because Anitra can do that. I can't dance like that. I can't do that stuff she's doing. I would have. I would have been like, I am going to. I'm not going to go up against the black. The backflip Queen while I can't do any of that stuff. I. So I. Is it fierce that she did that? Yes, it is very fierce that Anitra chose to save Spice. I would have not done that in a thousand years. Not in a thousand years that I've done that.
A
I agree.
B
But also, it's different, too, because at the top of the show, Mistress, she chose Jack, but that wouldn't have been her last chance. This is an interest. Last chance. There's. There's no. Down the line. Two more lip sync. This is the last time you will get to save yourself from elimination.
A
So it's like, make the easy choice. The easy choice and stay. Stick around and give yourself the best option. The best. Right. The best formula to stay. Yeah, yeah, that's it. Even if that's your last one. I can't lip sync.
B
Life's not fair. Now grab this skinny and scrub the floor with her red wig.
A
Throw her out.
B
Okay, so Lux also right, right when they get back to the right, right when. Right before Spice goes back to the room and RuPaul explained all the rules. Lux goes. Can someone explain what just happened? I'm kind of confused.
A
Stop. Did you say that, like.
B
Yes. All the girls, like, gather, like, oh, my God. And Lux goes. Can someone explain what just happened? I'm kind of confused. That's. That was such a read. It was great. It was.
A
She was.
B
She was. Just the fact that she's always a little bit behind. I love that. I'm obsessed with that. I don't know. Yeah, it's really funny what's going on in her head.
A
She's just feeling herself.
B
Yeah. I'm stunning. I'm gorgeous. I'm beautiful. I'm sickening. I'm gonna win Drag Race, you know,
A
and I'm not paying attention. Yeah.
B
Yeah. So. So they lipsticked finally, which is. Ooh, I love this song. I meeting Mr. Right, the man of my deed.
A
What queen in all of history hasn't like what. How does that not get you going?
B
You can love the way. And they're pretty evenly matched. They are pretty evenly matched up in here. No one's. I don't think anyone's getting scrubbed across the floor. This is a. This is. I will say this. It is very. It is very fun to watch this. It is very fun to watch this. Lip sync. And Anitra wins. And I agree with him.
A
Yeah. Yes. It was really satisfying because it was like, check mark. Thank you for, like, thank you for that. Yes, I agree.
B
So Jax, after three, two episodes in the bottom and then finally being the last one, and she's lip synced. So Jax has Now lip synced 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, I think five times or five times on this season of Drag Race. And she and one of the Connecticut queens are getting knocked down. The Connecticut queens are going one by Lucy. Watch out all these Connecticut girls. Because Amethyst, Jax, and. Robin were all Connecticut girl. There's one Connecticut. There's the one cunt netiquet cunt left, honey.
A
Kind of love it. Connecticut. It was a bunch of girls from Connecticut.
B
And now. And look right now, bitch, I live in New York City, and I don't even know that many queens from Connecticut. I don't live in. I lived in New York City for 12 years. Connecticut is right next door. I don't even know that many queens from Connecticut.
A
No. We worked with a lot of girls that were like, we live in New York, but Connecticut was like, oh, Jersey,
B
Long island, upstate Queens, Brooklyn, Philly. I knew more queens from. There are more queens from Philly from the one city of Philly come from the entire state of Connecticut.
A
Yes. Pittsburgh.
B
They were here. Louisiana, Mars. Anything but. Anything but a queen from Connecticut. Yeah. So I found out that next week's episode, they're gonna Have a ball where they're gonna make something. And next week. Are you ready for this wild fact? Next Week is the 200th episode of RuPaul's Drag Race. By any chance, do you remember what happened on the 100th episode of Drag Race?
A
Me. I do.
B
Yeah. Do you remember?
A
Oh, no, wait. I was thinking. The hundredth queen was Derek Baring.
B
What? Do you remember the 100th episode?
A
Give me the season.
B
It was season eight. It was the first episode. Our first episode was the 100th episode of Revolves Drag Race.
A
Oh, then I was right. Yeah. So when Derek, when we were all walking in, was it the hundredth episode and she was the hundredth Queen?
B
And the 100th queen. Yes.
A
Okay. So thank you. All right. That's what I thought. Yeah. So that was kind of cool that we got to celebrate that.
B
Can you believe it's been. Can you believe there have been as many episodes from the beginning to us and then from us to now?
A
It really feels like yesterday for me anyway.
B
I was like, no, I know what you mean. It does? Yeah. There have been 100 episodes of drag Race since you walked through the door and said, I'm Thorgy with a th and orgy. And I feel incredible.
A
People saw me on the subway and said that to me.
B
Also, Thorgy is now on TikTok, everyone. Thorgy's made one. Well, I made one TikTok for Thorgy and she posted. Have you made another one?
A
No, not yet. Not yet. But it's on my big, huge list of things. I have lists all over the place that just things that I like to accomplish. And then I make lists to remind me of the lists of things that I have to make lists of to, like, fix. Anyway, making another TikTok video is on
B
there, so I will you review. You do drag race viewing parties. Can you tell us where you do your parties?
A
Oh, well, yeah. So I brought it back. I did a tailgate party, which was outside after 2020. And then when I'm home, when I'm here, I do a Friday party with Brooklyn girls. We do a show viewing party at tailgate every Friday doors at 7, 8 o' clock episode and 9 o'. Clock. We do shows and shows and it's very fun. It's a good workout. I like sweating my butt off.
B
If y' all want to have some fun with Thor G. Thor in Brooklyn, please go down to tailgate and have some fun. She is a good time gal.
A
You gotta come. Come hang out with us.
B
I would love to do the do The. Do the newer queens treat you like an old lady? Are they like, Thorgy? Oh, my God, it's Thorgy.
A
No, they really don't. They're just like, we love you. Like, you're so cool. I'm like, okay, cool. Or maybe they turn around, they're like, old wench bitch. Not.
B
Not, like, in a bad way. But they're like. But like, they're like, oh, my God. Like, reverence. Like, I can't believe it's like. Like, they're like, how. What was it? Like, very. Do something. Like, what was it like back.
A
Do you know? A lot of people are like, oh, I went to school.
B
They were like, what was it like at tnt? I heard it was really fun.
A
Yeah.
B
What was Backspace like?
A
Well.
B
Oh, no, Sugar Land. What was Sugarland like? Or did you tell us?
A
They don't even know. But I do get a lot of people that are like, oh, I went to the same conservatory as you. I graduated in 96. Oh, no, sorry. I graduated in, like, 2020. And I'm like, wait, how old are you? That makes me feel like, oh, I'm a grandma.
B
When did you graduate?
A
2006.
B
I was supposed to graduate college in 2008, but I dropped out.
A
And look at you now, baby. The face of success, number one on the charts. You are.
B
Well, for, like, a day. But I was there. I was there, girl.
A
Well, that's amazing, and you should be very proud.
B
You're cool, and I love you, and I feel incantable. All right, thank you all for watching, and we'll see you all next week. Monet chose not to come today because it's her birthday, so I guess she thinks she did today off, even though I worked on my birthday. It's also Jacob's birthday. Happy birthday to Jacob, too. Happy birthday, my baby. I love you.
A
Happy birthday.
B
All right, bye, everyone.
A
See ya.
Podcast: Sibling Rivalry
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Thorgy Thor (guest co-host; Monét X Change is away)
Date: February 22, 2023
In this episode of Sibling Watchery, Bob the Drag Queen and guest co-host Thorgy Thor dive into their review of RuPaul's Drag Race Season 15, Episode 8, the much-awaited “LipSync Lalaparuza Smackdown.” The pair break down each lip sync, dish out their thoughts on contestant strategies, performance styles, and iconic drag moments, and reflect on the evolution of the franchise and their own experiences as former Drag Race contestants.
Bob and Thorgy’s signature wit shines as they balance critique, nostalgia, and irreverent humor. They provide a nuanced, inside look at the culture and evolution of Drag Race, celebrating talent, calling out delusion, and advocating for both the artistry and silliness that make drag so powerful and entertaining. The episode is a must for superfans and newcomers alike—offering both technical analysis and plenty of laughs.