Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race S16E1 "Rate-A-Queen" Review

Summary

Sibling Rivalry: Sibling Watchery – RuPaul’s Drag Race S16E1 “Rate-A-Queen” Review

Podcast: Sibling Rivalry
Date: January 10, 2024
Episode: Sibling Watchery: RuPaul’s Drag Race S16E1 "Rate-A-Queen" Review
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob The Drag Queen
Guests: Kim Chi & Naomi Smalls

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Episode Overview

The comedy duo of Monét X Change and Bob The Drag Queen, accompanied this week by special guests Kim Chi and Naomi Smalls, come together for a hilarious and incisive breakdown of RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 16's premiere, “Rate-A-Queen.” This episode of Sibling Watchery focuses on evaluating the queens’ entrance looks and their performances in the opening talent show, examining RuPaul’s ever-changing format twists, and critiquing both the guest judges and production elements.

With trademark wit, personal anecdotes from their own seasons, and a willingness to get shady (but always in good fun), the hosts and guests dissect all the runway moments, drama, and memorable gags from this major season launch.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Season 16 Format & Premiere Reception

• Expectations vs. Reality: The group considers whether Drag Race premieres have become formulaic and less exciting compared to earlier seasons.
  • Bob: "This premiere was good, but it does not hold a candle to season eight, if I must say so myself." [03:17]
  • Monét: “I almost feel like they shouldn’t do a twist. And that will be the twist.” [03:42]
• Desire for Old-School Challenges: The panel reminisces about more outlandish, physical first-episode challenges and notes the Ring Camera photo mini-challenge as lackluster.
  • Kim: "I want Ru to go back to dunking them in water, dousing them in plasma, covering them in feathers, electrocute them..." [03:51]

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2. Entrance Looks – Queen by Queen

Q

• Mixed reactions: Critique of the “green psychedelic” outfit; confusion over shoulder feathers and wig choice.
  • Naomi: “I really like the stoning. I don't really understand the football shoulder feather moment. And I hate this hair.” [09:05]
  • Bob: “It looks like it's supposed to have something else... Like you do your hair before you put another wig on it?” [09:20]

Tsunami Muse

• On fashion claims vs. reality: Admiration for her hair, but strong opinions that the outfit was ill-fitting and material choices questionable.
  • Monét: “You cannot big up yourself and tell us that you are this fashion and your outfit is a little ill fitting.” [11:36]
  • Kim: “I would have just either worn the bodysuit or just worn the blue thing with maybe, like, either panties or skirt.” [12:13]

Amanda Tori Meeting

• Drag name praised, look panned: Makeup and titty bib issues, but Kim finds charm in her slightly unpolished approach.
  • Monét: "Great drag name. Unfortunately, with not so great makeup." [15:47]
  • Kim: “I feel like this is kind of what Drag Race has been missing in the late seasons, because everybody is so polished... I don't mind someone that's kind of, like, funny and hilarious and a little bit unpolished.” [16:07]

Morphine Love Dion

• Body and face: universally praised. Personal run-in at the NYC premiere: “She is stunning in person... Her makeup is beautiful.” [21:30]
• Controversy: Kim and co. note the boldness of calling herself “the Latina diva of Florida.” [21:57]

Sapphira Cristál

• Effortless and mature: Noted her “together presence” stands out in a young cast; everyone agreed she is one to watch.
  • Naomi: "There's something that really feels effortless about everything that she was doing in the workroom..." [27:53]
  • Kim: "Her makeup looks beautiful. The hair looks snatched. Yeah, I think she's one to watch out for." [27:33]

Mirage

• The panel favorite: Her unique style and charisma make her a standout, “funny, a good performer, unique... She gave us three completely different looks this episode.” [29:47]
• Comment on her "villain potential": "I hope she does turn into the villain, quite frankly." [33:24]

Dawn

• Strong construction and newness: Applauded for making all her clothes and bold choices; predicted to be a fan favorite.
  • Monét: “People who can sew this well and create clothes like this... I’m very envious.” [34:00]

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3. Recurring Queens' Shadiness Toward Amanda Tori Meeting

• Amanda as the season’s underdog/punching bag: "They have made it clear we do not respect you...” [39:25]
• Speculation that Amanda may outlast her rivals: “They do not respect Amanda... Amanda's going to watch a lot of these girls walk out the door.” [25:51]

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4. Production Throwbacks and Personal Anecdotes

• Comparing old season budgets and available resources: "Me and Kim were the two largest people there, and the clothes did not fit me half the time." [32:49]
• Recounting personal and shared experiences with makeup and feedback (“makeup interventions”), especially toward Bob’s season 8 journey. [19:34]

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5. Mini Challenge & Workroom Dynamics

• Ring Camera Photo Challenge: Passes quickly, seen as “not very memorable,” but Amanda’s use of “slay” for herself gets a chuckle. [37:10]
• Notable quote: Bob: "Animals should be able to vote... Who would they vote for? Not for you." [38:13]

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6. Talent Show Performances (Main Stage)

• General sentiment: Range from innovative to cringeworthy – hosts prize originality, concept, and aligned talents.
  • Bob: “I love when people do stuff we haven’t seen.”
• Performance Takes:
  • Morphine: “Embracing Latin heritage,” but performed to a Spanish (not Latin American) artist. “The number was really great, she looked beautiful.” [50:15]
  • Amanda Tori Meeting: Track was “camp and fun,” but “the outfit is ugly as sin” and hair a disaster. Kim: “Is it wrong to say I kind of liked it?” [51:58]
  • Dawn: Creative costume, self-made, impresses with unconventional reveals, but Bob wasn't sold on the musical aspects. [54:02]
  • Q: Innovative “puppet show” – lauded for its comedy and difference.
  • Mirage: Performance praised for lyrics, intention, and unique approach. Michelle Visage’s critique about repeatability debated, with the hosts split on valuing spontaneity vs. structure. [58:19]
  • Tsunami Muse: “Pretty boring,” “felt very flat,” with unmemorable concept despite strong look. [59:22]
  • Sapphira Cristál: Opera with a twist, praised for humor and smart staging – "a great talent.” [62:40]

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7. Runway: Reveal Yourself (Looks & Concepts)

• General feeling: Reveals ranged from clever to awkward.
  • Best: Tsunami’s Trench look and Mirage’s feather/face glitter moments.
  • Worst: Amanda’s purple “sea urchin” reveal drew the most vocal dismay and critique for lack of polish, awkward bobby pins, and “no earring” [68:08, 69:08].
  • Sapphira Cristál: Technical critique of leotards that don’t stretch—“makes no sense"—and costume construction (Monét & Bob’s personal experience shared). [77:39]

Runway PSA: Naomi: "Stop putting black bobby pins on the outside of the sideburns... and the fucking audacity to do this with no earring is truly disturbing." [69:08]

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8. Lip Sync & Judging

• Top 2: Q and Sapphira, with unanimous agreement that Sapphira was the clear winner and standout of the episode.
  • Bob: "As soon as it starts, I don’t see it for Q..." [83:10]
• Lip Sync Energy: Q’s “white queen on Drag Race” dance move called out; Sapphira’s wild, bouncing breastplate “were paid actors.” [84:10]
• No Elimination: Surprise but welcome, as the format mimics All Stars with immunity in play, and strategic voting speculated.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Monét, on classic Drag Race: “They shouldn't do a twist…and that will be the twist." [03:42]
• Bob, on production values: "They were bringing women's clothes, but in, like, size small." [32:49]
• Kim, shading bobby pins: “The bobby pin is giving very, like first year doing drag.” [71:11]
• Naomi, on runway styling: “Stop putting black bobby pins on the sideburns of your fucking wig...and no earring is disturbing.” [69:08]
• Bob, on Amanda’s critiques: “They have made it clear: we do not respect you." [39:25]
• On Tsunami Muse: “You cannot big up yourself and tell us that you are this fashion and your outfit is a little ill fitting.” [11:36]
• Kim, on old Drag Race: “I want Ru to go back to dunking them in water… shock therapy.” [03:51]

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Segment Timestamps

• Season comparisons/premiere format: 03:15 – 04:40
• Detailed queen entrance looks: 08:28 – 30:49
• Production reminiscing & challenges of old: 32:00 – 34:00
• Mini challenge and workroom: 37:00 – 39:25
• Talent show reviews: 49:32 – 62:40
• Runway critiques: 64:15 – 79:27
• Judging and voting mechanics: 80:48 – 83:39
• Lip sync analysis: 83:10 – 85:50

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Tone & Style

The mood is rowdy but affectionate—shady critiques are balanced by celebrating uniqueness and the complexities of drag artistry. The familiar banter between Bob, Monét, Naomi, and Kim is full of inside jokes, friendly shade, and plenty of off-the-cuff quips.

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Summary for New Listeners

If you missed the episode, expect a detailed, laugh-out-loud breakdown of Drag Race S16’s first impressions, with special insider perspective from beloved former contestants. Each queen’s strengths and stumbles are dissected, every look and talent show number is analyzed, and the roots—and realities—of drag artistry (and competition) are explored with no holds barred. The group especially delights in side-eyeing production decisions, debating the merits of classic versus modern Drag Race, and picking out fashion faux-pas that only seasoned queens would clock.

Fans of Sibling Rivalry’s signature blend of shade, sincerity, and shared Drag Race history will particularly enjoy this episode—both a riotous recap and an object lesson in how to slay (and sometimes flop) on the world’s most-watched drag stage.

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Quick Takeaways

• Sapphira Cristál emerges as early frontrunner and clear winner of the episode.
• Amanda Tori Meeting is both the season's whipping girl and, perhaps, a sleeper contender.
• Mirage, Dawn, and Q also catch attention, for better or worse.
• Old-school challenges and production chaos are missed by queens and fans alike.
• Never, ever let Naomi Smalls catch you with exposed bobby pins (without earrings).

Transcript

[A]

Hey, y', all, it is me, Monet. And we wanna let y' all know that the siblings are coming at you. Boo.

[B]

Boo.

[A]

We are doing Netflix is a joke on May 5, 2024 at the Belasco Theater in Los Angeles. So if you're around, you need to get some motherfucking tickets and see your favorite girls do our thing.

[C]

If you wanna see our beautiful faces in person, please go to seethedragqueen.com and get tickets for Sibling Rivalry Live at the Netflix is a Joke festival.

[A]

And y', all, I am coming to Joe's Pub. I think the first and second. I think the 16th, and that sold out. But we still have tickets for the 18th, so come and see me do my thing. My one woman show, Lifey Life Ing, which was legendary at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, live for you in New York City at Joe's Pub on January 16th, 17th and 18th.

[C]

And last but not least, I am on tour with Madonna until April. So go to madonna.com and see me in a town near you with the actual Queen of Pop.

[A]

Everyone, this is not a test. Do not adjust your. Your iPhone, your iPad, your computer screen. It is really the four drag bitches of the. Of the apocalypse. Girl, this is so fun. Kim and Naomi are joining us for Sibling Watchery.

[D]

Yes, the Single Digit Divas. Do it again.

[C]

Okay, so full disclosure. For those of you who read the San Francisco show, I was sick with a stomach bug. Monet was sick with probably the flu or whatever the fuck it was. Whatever. This, like, it's a Covid type feeling. That's not Covid.

[A]

The respiratory thing I had. I had. It's called. It's called, like, RZA or SZA or some shit. That's what it's called.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I just killed my ex.

[C]

So what? That show y' all got in San Francisco, y' all don't realize how hard me and Monet were working at that show, girl. And now Kim. Do you have the respiratory thing, Kim, or do you have the. Do you have diarrhea like I had?

[B]

Oh, my God. No, I have both. I have diarrhea and the respiratory thing.

[C]

I had them do back to back, Girl. I had a few overlap days. It was not cute.

[B]

I don't know what's happening, but I miss feeling healthy.

[C]

I know when you're in it, you feel like you'll never feel good again.

[A]

And Naomi's just over here just, like, fresh as a daisy. Naomi's like, what? What sickness, honey?

[D]

No, I feel like it was.

[B]

She's like, Moisturized skin is clear, healthy.

[D]

Well, it's actually not me.

[C]

You know, honestly, I would believe that for you, too.

[B]

She probably fucked this morning, too. She's glowing.

[C]

And I just got done topping, and she's at my house. Oh, my gosh. She topped Jacob. Oh, my God.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Honestly, thank you so much for letting

[D]

me use the studio, because my tech idiot self cannot set any of this up, so.

[C]

Well, I appreciate you for coming over. You are always a maximum effort girly. Every single time, and that is never missed on me, and I always appreciate it.

[A]

Yes, ma'.

[C]

Am.

[A]

Well, y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Can y' all believe it is. So this is.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

This is officially, like, the halfway double y' all season. This is, like, double your season. And I have to say, in my honest opinion, this premiere was good, but it does not hold a candle to season eight, if I must say so myself.

[B]

So far, I mean, season eight was pretty special. But also, I feel like Premiere, nowadays, the formulas have almost gotten too predictable.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I almost feel like they shouldn't do a twist. And that will be the twist.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, what? There's no gimmick for the premiere.

[C]

Well, I want Ru to go back to dunking them in water, dousing them in plasma, covering them in feathers, electrocute them. Shock therapy.

[B]

Throw them off of a cliff.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Like, what was the guy run them at the stake, like, photo shoot? What was the gag? It was like a ring door.

[C]

That was a ring camera.

[A]

The ring camera. That was the gag. I was like, that's the surprise. I was like, okay.

[C]

And then I think the gag was that the lighting was homophobic.

[B]

And then the love. Connie Bed. I was, like, really confused by the last.

[C]

What?

[A]

Why?

[C]

I don't think it was really super well thought out, if I'm being honest with you guys. Just kind of seeing. They were just low key doing it and just, like, seeing what? I don't know. It wasn't. It was not their best work. It really was not their best work. But that being said, let's talk about these queens, because some of these looks are actually really great. These are actually, that being said, some of my favorite interest looks on. On Drag Race. I will say that this.

[A]

This really. So in all of Drag Race, these are some of your. So in the 16 season, some of these are you angry favorite looks.

[C]

Some of these are. Yeah. And you're. And you will never be like, why

[B]

did you hate these looks?

[C]

You will never be in my favorite interest looks ever. So, nigga, you're not my favorite person

[A]

you're not my favorite drag queen.

[C]

So when we talk about interest, looks don't even crack your. Your ashy, crusty, dry lips.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Kim and Naomi were robbed. And if have a do over.

[B]

Now.

[D]

I remember for season eight when they came to. Remember when they came to your room to kind of see, like, what you were going to wear the first day. Yeah, I was fully going to wear, like, a jumpsuit. And they were like, wait, really? We want the legs out. I was going to wear actually my finale look for season eight for my entrance look.

[A]

The green.

[D]

The green thing, the girl. We're not talking about that anymore. We're not doing this anymore. No more green latex.

[C]

Naomi, gather this. Yeah, she's trying to try to get you on a. Naomi, gather this.

[A]

So, Naomi, so. So it was the one you wore in the last episode when y' all were in the music video.

[D]

Oh, no, it was like the finale Runway. It was like that, like, fuchsia, like, bunny ear top thing with, like, the really high pants.

[C]

So I remember that.

[D]

Oh, so random.

[B]

What would you have worn for the finale then? You worn that for the entrance.

[D]

A black bathing suit. I regret not doing that. You look.

[C]

You, like, reversed. You probably reversed it.

[D]

Probably not, actually. But, like, I just. I mean, I'm happy that they did that because I needed to show off the legs the first episode. And iconic. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Sometimes the nose. I mean, I can say for me, the. The notes that the editors and RuPaul and them give you is really. It's good advice. And they were like, show your legs. And you're like, boom. Next thing you know, you know, sometimes.

[B]

Didn't ask me to show my legs.

[A]

Sometimes.

[C]

What you said.

[A]

Didn't ask you to show

[C]

a little

[A]

bit of leg on the. On your.

[D]

Yeah, you were showing. That was kind of a hussy look for you.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[C]

Do you think you'll be able to make it through this pod?

[B]

Do you.

[C]

Do you have any.

[B]

Sorry, no.

[D]

No.

[B]

I'm sorry.

[C]

No. Okay. If at any point you're like, girl, I need to bow out, we will not blame you because this is not.

[A]

This is not Southern Nights rivalry. Okay. Oh, my God.

[B]

Listen, you want to go there?

[C]

Oh, why are you coming for our guest?

[B]

Well, Kim just recently went to Southern nights and did a gig there.

[C]

Oh, how was.

[B]

Was great.

[A]

Fab.

[C]

Shout out to the.

[A]

Nice.

[C]

All right, let's get. We have start. We are. We are already eight minutes in. Have not discussed a single queen. Wait, before we talk about the queen's looks. Bob, can you tell us about your look today?

[A]

Oh, yeah, I'm wearing, like.

[C]

I'm wearing a pink snakeskin. It reminds me of the walls of RuPaul's Drag Race on the inside of the work room.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh, is that why? Was this intentional? Or did it just happen to be.

[C]

Yes, the walls in the workroom. We have to talk about that. We have to talk about. We're nine minutes in. We have to discuss at least one Queen from season 16 of Drag Race. So let's start with Q. Q the music, because the show is about to start. As the first queen to enter on her season. Naomi, can you please give us the honors of being the first one to give us your feelings on Q's looks? And what do you think about this? This green psychedelic leggings, panty corset. There's a lot going on here.

[D]

I really like the stoning. I don't really understand the football shoulder feather moment. And I hate this hair. I hate this hair. But me too.

[C]

It was driving me crazy that she's like, I'm big, I'm over the top look. It looks like it's supposed to have something else. Like, you know how. You know how you do your hair before you put another wig on it?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Like that to me.

[A]

Yeah. I like it sans the boa. I don't like the boa. I think if she didn't have. Cuz I think the boa is this shoulder thing, too. I think it was just the corset. The, the, the, the.

[B]

The.

[A]

The garter legging situation and the gloves and the purse and different hair ob. I think it'll be cute, but I think the boa shoulder thing is ugly.

[D]

Her body looks amazing.

[C]

If you love a lot Kim, her body looks so good over the top stuff. What do you think about this look? Him.

[B]

So at least when I was picking my entrance look, it was very tricky because you never know what they're gonna do to. You don't know if they're gonna, like, dip you in the water tank or you don't know if they're gonna, like, you know, throw you off of a cliff and feed you to the sharks. So it's like it's your first impression to the world, so you want to do something crazy and, like, make an impression, but then also you want to be somewhat functional at the same time too, right? Yeah. And I feel like this is, like, a good balance of that, you know,

[A]

Like, I don't know. He was like, you don't know if they're gonna put you in front of a firing squad and shoot you between your eyes, you don't know what's gonna

[C]

happen if you got dunked in a pool. How many of us here can swim? I cannot swim. Naomi, can you swim?

[D]

I can swim. Yeah. For sure.

[B]

Yeah, I can swim.

[C]

Okay. Well, I guess I'd be the only bitch.

[A]

Aren't you from, like, the coast and, like. Like, Color Purple then? I got beaches in Georgia.

[C]

Atlanta's not on the coast. I'm from Columbus and Atlanta. They are right in Atlanta. There's one man made beach in Atlanta, and we don't. And I'm not swimming in the river. In the Chattahoochee River. You don't want to. Don't. You don't want to swim, girl. I mean, people do it, actually, but I'm not.

[A]

Let's go on.

[C]

Let's go on to Tsunami, which, by the way, Monet tried to gaslight me. It is pronounced Tsunami. She clarified that today. And you were like. She said tsunami.

[A]

So first of all, her accent is very thick. Okay? I know I can have a little accent sometimes. She has a very thick accent. I thought it was Zunami. Y. Y. I love that. I love that. Well, she walks in and she. I will the line. She says that she is. That she's a fashion girl. She's a model. And I was like, well, this outfit is a little ill. Like, you cannot big up yourself and tell us that you are this, like, fashion and your outfit is a little ill fitting.

[C]

Like, that's.

[A]

Girl, you are, like, literally putting the bullets in the gun.

[D]

It looks like a theater look.

[A]

A theater.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I guess I can see Alexis Michelle wearing this from. From the waist up. Alexis Michelle would wear this, and it might look. And I think she might style it a little better, too, to be honest.

[D]

She'd have to like the.

[B]

The blue portion of this look. I don't think I would have paired it with this, like, bodysuit underneath.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I would have just either worn the bodysuit or just worn the blue thing with maybe, like, either panties or skirt.

[C]

Yeah, it's a weird combo. I don't. I don't love this combo. I do love this bodice, puppy sleeve training. But what is that? Is that. Is that. Is that, like. Is that a pantsuit? Gray. What color is that?

[A]

It's gray. It's like a gray. And also, the material was weird, too. I didn't love the material choice.

[C]

It's like an organza. It looks nice to me.

[A]

No, no, the gray Thing.

[C]

Oh, yeah, that. You're right.

[A]

But I will say her hair, though. I love this hair. This, like, this, like, natural. This natural texture was sick. I was like, I want a wig like that. I loved it.

[D]

And so much volume. I wish.

[C]

Did you notice that she said the same thing you said? Q said the same thing you said. First one in the room feels right. That is the same thing you said. Naomi.

[D]

First one. I don't blame them. Yeah.

[C]

Oh, that's what you said.

[D]

I mean, it's. It's. Do you guys wish, like, what do you feel? Do you like the idea of walking in and there not being anybody, or do you. Would you rather walk into people?

[B]

I'd rather. I love the people because then I don't have to say hi to every single person that walks in.

[C]

Well, I like an audience. I want. I want there to be people there to, like, interact with. And. And walking into an empty room is my nightmare. Being like, hey,

[B]

you want to arrive at the party? You don't want to start the party.

[C]

That is.

[A]

That is literally Bob's limbo. That is your. That'll be hell for you.

[C]

Yeah. Like, Naomi, how are you? How long were you by yourself in that room? Naomi? Like, how long were you actually by yourself?

[D]

It didn't feel like very long, but I do remember, like, bolting to the mirror immediately, which is very true. Naomi Smalls fashion just to find the closest mirror.

[C]

Very nene. And we. And we. And we love you for it.

[A]

And we love you for it. We do.

[C]

Also, I noticed that Tsunami said, hopefully there's no more tick tockers. Is that was that shade toward the twins, do y' all think?

[A]

Of course.

[B]

Of course.

[D]

And. And probably, like, Is it, like, Amethyst? Well, probably this the whole last season, pretty much.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

There were a lot of tiktoks last season. I forget that. Yeah.

[C]

Oh, And. And who is the one who. The one I wrote on Grindr who. Who quit drag and was Princess Poppy.

[A]

She's a tick tocker Poppy.

[C]

Well, she had that I'm homophobic TikTok that went. That went viral.

[A]

Got it. She. Oh, Tsunami is also signed with an agency.

[D]

I like that she kind of left it, like, a little vague just in case she, like, jumped ship to another agency. I kind of liked that. I was like, oh, that's smart.

[C]

Yeah, I'm with an agency. Like, she just said, like, William bottles or something. Wilhelmina. Oh, no. Is that a real one, or is that just the one from Ugly Betty?

[A]

No, Wilhelmina is a real. It's A real agency.

[B]

Oh, it's a pretty famous modeling agency.

[A]

Yeah. I used to be signed to Wilhelmina. I was signed to Wilhelmina in high

[D]

school, and then I. I switched Wilhelmina Slater.

[C]

But that is. That act. That is her character's name, though. Wilhelmina Slater, right?

[A]

Yeah. I never watched that show.

[D]

It's so good. You should background.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

It's truly a brilliant show. Like, genuinely a very, very brilliant show.

[A]

I think we should go on to the next queen who has, in my opinion, one of the best drag names. I love her drag name. Amanda Tory Meeting is a great drag name.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Unfortunately, with not so great makeup. Oh, there were so many things wrong with this. The collar of the titty plate was, like, ruffling under her skin, and it was just. She did herself no favors with this entrance look.

[B]

I feel bad for her, but, you know, I kind of loved it.

[A]

Did you?

[B]

I did. I feel like. I feel like this is kind of what Drag Race has been missing in the late seasons, because everybody is, like, so polished and, you know, like, I don't mind someone that's kind of, like, funny and hilarious and a little bit unpolished because I feel like that's also part of, like, the drag world, you know?

[C]

Yeah, I agree. And also, you know, there's. There's some. Some woman had a tick tock years ago, and she was like, everyone, I can see your lady. She goes, yeah, it's a lace. You're gonna see my lace. My wig, my hair is all attached to a lace. So, yes, you're going to see a lace, bitch. So, like, if I see a drag lace, it's. To me, it's honestly not the end of the world if I can't see her lace. That's cool. Like the Bianca's of the world. There are very few queens, I have to be honest, very few queens who. I can never see their lace. And everyone else, I'm just kind of seeing your lace. And honestly, I really don't care. And if you're wearing a titty bib, as long as it's the one that goes up to here, I'm gonna see a little bit of the fall, though.

[A]

What gets me is this. Yeah, like, how do you guys see, like, crystal massage?

[D]

How do you prevent it, girl? Like, how do you. How do you prevent it? Do you have to, like, adhesive it to your skin or, like, do you have to, like, pin it in the back or get a tighter one? Like, how do you prevent the folding?

[A]

Because, like, in the videos, you, like, you Yours.

[C]

Okay. Mine is custom. So there's like the guy who made

[D]

that Madonna titty plate.

[A]

It is over. It is everything. Oh, it's.

[B]

Everything popped up today.

[C]

The guy who made Roger's light outfit made that titty bit for me.

[D]

It is.

[C]

It is a custom titty bib, so it is like. It's. It is. It's unclockable unless you get close.

[D]

I mean, you get.

[C]

You can see right. Right here on the back. But up until this point, the color matching, everything, she probably just bought this off of boobs or queens or Amazon or. They sell them everywhere now. You know what I mean?

[A]

And Christopher Versace. I mean, I don't. I don't know if Christopher Versace is our customer or not, but she's. But she's also. She's been trying to. She's been, like, in this titty bib game for mad long. She's probably found what works, you know what I mean, by getting them online, whatever. But she does a good job of hiding hers.

[D]

And I feel like the way that she finishes it, like, I feel like she, like, oils them up or like, something that it makes it look more skin. Yeah, this was like. It was just like a matte, grayish folding titty bib.

[C]

Amanda and Tsunami are throwing a lot of shade at each other. They're going there. I'm like, these bitches know each other. They are, like, really giving each other and what it is. And I know. I think what is, is this is my opinion, and I. It was solidified throughout the show. They just low key, don't respect Amanda's drag, and they think she's bad and they make it known. And there were points, especially if you watch untucked, when they cut to Amanda in that purple makeup. And it was just. It was like. It was like. Like it was jump scared.

[A]

No, I.

[C]

The green hair jump scare. That's why I keep telling folks I can acknowledge that I had some bad makeup, but y' all not about to tell me. I'm one of the worst makeup makeups in the history of Dragon. That was. That was wild,

[A]

Bob. That was eight seasons ago. Would you like to read Kim and Naomi the letters that you have prepared about your makeup in season eight that you want to get off your chest? This is your moment. No, I don't have.

[D]

Wait, who was more loud about it? Because I. I feel like I was not that loud about it.

[C]

No, no. Kim was my biggest. Kim was the biggest one in my makeup intervention, for sure.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I'll admit it I'll admit it. Yes, I was a hater, a phone hater.

[D]

But I think that Kim got. Kim got us both to wear blush, and I. I still am very thankful for that.

[C]

Kim has given me so many makeup tips over the years.

[A]

It was.

[C]

It was tough love. I needed the love, and I'm very grateful for. It was very hard to hear. We're talking. We'll talk about that during on our untucked, by the way, just so you guys know. And I was safe this challenge.

[A]

Safe.

[C]

That's the safest makeup you'll ever see, honey.

[D]

And you got ready in literally 20 minutes.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

This was my. This was my hell episode. This was the episode where I was going through hell. Y' all did not real. And this is the. Y' all know that wig. One days. I was making fun of that. I used to throw around. This is the wig. This was my craziest episode. I thought I was gonna be in the bottom of this episode. That's why. That's why I look pissed off in this picture.

[D]

And you had your. Like, you had your. Your red ry. Rai cut underneath it, just in case.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Oh, did you?

[C]

Yes. Yeah. I had a little secret. My head.

[A]

Lip sync.

[B]

Luckily, there was Robbie Turner and Derrick Barry with their iconic looks, and that

[C]

was a good, well look, but that was honestly good lip sync. So, honestly, I don't know that I would have even been able to hold up against that. Let's go on to our next queen. The next queen is Morphine Love Dion. The beauty and the body is here. Adarlator.

[A]

I saw this bitch in person at the Drag Race premiere in New York. She is stunning in person. Her makeup is beautiful. She has gorgeous makeup.

[D]

She looks amazing.

[A]

Gorgeous, gorgeous. She's great.

[D]

Her face is insane. Insane stamped. It's, like, built, though, to be bomb. Like, it's definitely built out, like, peaks and valleys.

[C]

Bold to call yourself. It's kind of bold to call yourself the Latina diva of Florida, because I feel like Florida has so many, like, Latina drag queens. So to call yourself the Latina goddess, I think she got herself. I was like, girl, the cards of the Latina goddess of Ambulance Florida is a. That is a bold statement to make.

[A]

Yeah, that's like calling yourself the Puerto Rican princess of New York, bitch. For real.

[C]

Okay, JLo would like to have a word with you.

[A]

Have y' all seen that clip from New Year's from. From Christmas or New Year's, whatever. Is Jennifer Lawrence singing silent night and JLo just on her shoulder and Jennifer Hudson, obviously is killing it. Jennifer Holiday, Jennifer Lewis is killing it.

[C]

And then Jennifer Holiday, Jennifer Lewis, she

[A]

gives the mic to JLo to sing. And JLO is like. I was like, jlo, why would you even put yourself in this situation?

[C]

Just sit down.

[D]

That's when you just go like that.

[C]

I mean, JLO can't sing. This is not a secret at this point. And you know, JLo even. Did y' all know that JLO actually kept. Allegedly, it's all alleged. Kept some of. Who's the girl? I. I can't. If I was you, I wanna be Megan Trainor. Yeah, she kept Megan. She kept Megan Turner's vocals on the song I ain't your mama.

[A]

Oh, yeah. It happened with. With Amory too. Amy Reed did a. Did a. A demo for one of JLO songs

[B]

and they keep Amory and Ashanti too.

[A]

And Ashanti girl.

[B]

And then DJ is Christina Millian.

[A]

Yes. Christine. That's one of the Christina Millio, maybe not Amory. I think that's what I'm talking about.

[C]

Wild.

[B]

I know.

[D]

Yeah. I'm not innocent in this. The whole Drag Race. When you are doing somebody else's look for Drag Race, like pulling inspiration, but morphine is legit in, like Cali Uchi's cosplay for her entrance.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Because we didn't know it was Kali Uchi, because I'm not. I'm not a big Kali Uchi fan. But even if it is a Kalichi look, I don't know that if I was going to pull a look from some diva or from some pop star, this would be the look I would pull.

[A]

You think it's too understated? You think it should be bigger?

[B]

It's almost like too casual.

[C]

There it is. It's pedestrian.

[D]

No, I think it's cute for an entrance, but it's just. But I think it's. It's weird to do someone else for your entrance. Introduction to the world.

[A]

Right. Yeah. As well. And not being an impersonator because Derek came in as Britney, but she literally. That is her whole shtick.

[D]

And she looks so hot.

[A]

She did. Honestly, no shade.

[C]

Well, that and her.

[A]

Derek's. Derrick Barry's entrance look for season eight. Literally, she looks exactly like Britney Spears. Also, that video that work the world posted of her performing in that black latex look for. For Vegas. She looked exactly like Britney. It is kind of scary.

[D]

Dare I say better.

[C]

You think Derek loves Brittany too much to do a knife routine? She loves it too much. Derek would do it.

[D]

I think she. No, she's doing it she's doing a knife routine, and she's, like, selling them and signing them. That bitch is. She is a business woman. She is a businesswoman. I just bought one of her. Her framed, like, face. Have you seen her, like, face makeup thing? Yes.

[C]

Face.

[A]

Got it.

[D]

I definitely recommend everyone getting one for their home.

[C]

Derek is so fucking funny.

[A]

I think that Morphine looks fierce. I think that. I think that she came in with a lot of sasson, and she jumped on the making fun of Amanda train. Like, but also, she's coming for Amanda hall hard. Like, she is going in on her, and she clocked the neckline, and I'm like, you know what? This the kind of spice I want to drag race. And I, I, I. I like the trade. I think it's fine.

[C]

They do not respect Amanda. They. And which is why I think Amanda's going to go much further than a lot of these. I think Amanda's going to watch a lot of these girls walk out the door. She's not gonna win. She might halfway. But I think Amanda's going to watch a lot of these girls walk out the door and be like. Because I honestly think that if it would have come down to. To Tsunami and. And Amanda just watch those performances, Amanda would have sent her home.

[A]

Yeah, Amanda's a good. Yeah, she's a good performer. It looks like.

[C]

Bitch. Amanda would have sent Tsunami packing, and she'd have been like, Amanda's not cunty enough to be like, yeah, bitch. One down, more to go. She's kind of like, yeah, I am kind of ugly. I don't know.

[D]

I like you. Before we move on, I like you.

[C]

You know what I mean? J.D. before we go on, I want to say this, too. Like, something weird that I thought was, like, morphine was like, it's season 16. You're wearing a breastplate, but I can see the neckline. But also, I could fully see the padding inside of Morphine's bra. Like, I saw inside of her empty stone bra in the padding, and I was like, girl, I can literally see the padding in your bra. Like, literally. So, like, what's the. Like, what's the difference?

[A]

Yeah, we should move on. Let's go on to the next queen to enter the workroom, which was Sapphira Chris style. And this blue feather. Abraham. I don't know.

[C]

I really am obsessed with this look. I love that she did another version of it at the. At the. At the premiere with that amazing wig she had on. I love this look. What do y' all think? Kim you go first. What do you think of this look, Kim? This blue feathered.

[B]

I love it. With the thigh high boots. You get a sense of who she is. Dramatic, almost pageanty. Her makeup looks beautiful. The hair looks snatched. Yeah, I think she's one to look out, watch out for.

[C]

What do you think, Nay?

[D]

Oh, she's. She's like the girl. If I see her in the room, I'm hoping that she likes me. Like, I hope that we have a connection, because I just. There's something that really feels, like, effortless about everything that she was doing in the workroom, and I just. Yeah, it was like a breath of fresh air. And not to, like, throw age into it, but Drag Race is so young these days that she just gives a very, like, together presence. And I think that's something that just kind of comes with experience and age.

[A]

I would agree.

[C]

It's about my age. I think she's roughly 30. Somewhere between 35 and 39. Somewhere in there.

[D]

Very young.

[B]

Oh, really?

[C]

Roughly.

[B]

Damn. I would say she was, like, in her 40s. Not because she looks old, but, like, she just.

[A]

She gives that.

[B]

Acts old.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Older, mature.

[A]

Also. I will say, like. Well, we'll talk about it later because Rue clocks on the Runway, but this Bob making fun of me.

[C]

The arms.

[A]

Luther footed.

[C]

This walks. Her feet are sideways.

[D]

Is that what that means? I didn't know what that meant. Sl foot.

[A]

Yeah, I'm a little bit.

[C]

If.

[A]

If I'm like a three, this bitch is like an eight. You know, she. She's pretty.

[C]

She. She acknowledges. She said. She said it is what it is. Can we talk about who one of might. One of my favorite queens, baby. Let's go into mirage. I love this queen. I don't know what it is about this queen. She is so fierce to me. She is so funny. She is a good performer. I think she's pretty. She's unique. Her. I think her style is kind of quirky, but really great. Her Runway, I was like, oh, my God. The way she came out during the performance. She gave us three completely different looks this episode. She gave us a talent that unlike anything I've ever seen on the show.

[A]

I mean, unlike. I mean, it's not unlike you see someone lip sync to their track before. I just think how she though.

[C]

No, it wasn't. It wasn't just her. The talent wasn't just that she was lip syncing. It was this stripper s style. Hill clacking like, it was really about the hill clicks. It wasn't just that she was lip Syncing. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

She's very polarizing. I feel like. I feel like.

[B]

I think she's fun.

[C]

What do you think? I mean, what side of the pole are you on?

[D]

I think she should have had a poll for the talent competition, but she. No, I think she's. She's a lot of fun. She's from Vegas. I've definitely seen her perform a ton, and I respect it to be that tall and to be able to do all that in the. In those kind of heels, because when you're tall, it's. You're. You're. I mean, speaking from myself, I'm a little clumsy, so I can't even imagine. I couldn't even imagine.

[B]

What did you say?

[C]

Have you ever done a cartwheel on stage, Naomi?

[D]

Yes, and I.

[C]

What?

[D]

I regretted it, too.

[A]

A cartwheel? A cartwheel.

[C]

Why?

[D]

I mean, sometimes you stick the landing, sometimes you don't. Sometimes you look like Boo Boo the Fool. Or sometimes you look cute. I don't like. I don't speak for her sometimes.

[B]

What I want to know nowadays is Drag Race for the talent show. Do they provide everybody with all these, like, sets and, like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Special things now?

[A]

Yeah, they do. Yeah.

[C]

Like before.

[A]

Before you go to do the show, like, you tell them what your talent's gonna be, and you, like, run it by what you want to do, and they'll. And then, like, you can talk through whatever set dressing you want, whatever set design, and they'll tell you what's possible. Like, if I wanted to fly in a fucking A set of a train, probably not. But they can, like, do things within reason.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Girls, like, didn't have anything on stage, like. Like, that's their fault. They didn't.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

On Drag Race, they did. They were not giving us anything, and

[B]

when they gave us, they didn't give

[A]

us,

[B]

like, we were lucky if he got, like, a T shirt that fit,

[C]

you know, like, Kim, do you remember the clothing they got. First of all, all of her outfits, except for the finale episode, all. I mean, for the final episode in this soundstage, all of our outfits were from out of the closet. All of them. Every single outfit the entire season, for every challenge that we didn't provide was from out of the closet. We were all wearing thrifted clothes, and me and Kim were the two largest people there, and the clothes did not fit me half the time. And I don't think Kim ever got to wear any of the clothes from out of the closet. I think she wore a few things. Me and Kim could never wear the clothes they were providing because they just did not fit us because we. They were bringing us women's clothes.

[B]

They were bringing women's clothes, but in, like, size small.

[C]

It was crazy. Even Chi Chi had a hard time fitting into the clothes. And Chi Chi is, like. Was like five, seven or five, eight.

[A]

Okay, we get it. Y' all heard. Y' all have not been asked back. We get it. Y' all have not been cool enough to be biting back to Drag Race. Okay.

[C]

Would you be says me and Kim didn't need to go back three times, and we're all on the same podcast. Honey. Yeah.

[A]

I'm about to say you. You got the same job I got you on the same podcast I got

[C]

then, Bitch, shut up. Oh, we didn't talk about Mirage's look. I. I love. I love this look. I think. Yeah, she's. I. I love this queen. I hope she goes very far, and I hope she does turn into the villain, quite frankly.

[A]

I do.

[B]

I think she is.

[A]

I think that definitely painted her to be that for sure.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, yeah. I love. Yeah. A little accessories. Cute. None of the. There's no. I love that. It's all eclectic. I love it. I love it. Let's go on to Dawn. Rise and shine, motherfuckers. Is dawn, and she makes all of her own clothes. Let's start with Monet. What do you think, Monet, about Don?

[A]

I love. I love this word before. I love this look. I think it's very well put together. It's giving very Brooklyn. I. I just love this. I can't. People who can sew this well and create clothes like this, I'm very envious because I can do the bare minimum. I can do a leotard, a catsuit, and a gown. That's literally the extent of my abilities. I'm just impressed by these different materials. Some of it is shred, some of it is not. She made fucking sterws for her shoes to make the shoes look cool. Like, I think it's just a very impressive. I mean, I. I, like, think she looks great.

[D]

I think she. I think she looks great. I think it's different for Drag Race. I'm always impressed by something that we haven't seen before. Bold to do, like, a matte, especially neutral look. But it all works because all the details are in there. She kind of looks like she'd be like, braves whatever. The girl from Brave. That princess should be like Merida. Yeah. Like the class clown of the class that the Merida is in or something. Like that.

[A]

Yeah. I say this black. Black folk do not like calling characters by the name. They all be like, brave. The Little Mermaid.

[C]

Frozen. Hey, Frozen. Get it? Frozen.

[B]

Yeah. I think Don is going to be a fan favorite this season. She just has that aesthetic that appeals to. For the lack of better word. Trixie fans,

[D]

Please explain.

[C]

If Kim's gonna keep it anything, she gonna keep it a buck. That. If Kim has one. If Kim gonna do anything, she go, keep it real. And you're not wrong. Let's. Let's. We start moving on. So RuPaul comes in. I don't know if it's problematic to say, but RuPaul looks like Jacob. You know what she looks like, right? Jacob?

[D]

The tire look. Is it that tire?

[C]

She looks like the kid in the striped pajamas.

[A]

What is it? What is that?

[D]

Oh, from the Holocaust.

[C]

She looks. Yeah, yeah, it is. Yeah, I see that. I think it looks cool. I think RuPaul. I didn't say it doesn't look cool, but she looks like the kid in the striped pajamas.

[A]

I mean, the boy. The boy in the striped pajamas. Yeah.

[C]

I was like. I was like, is that. I was like, what is.

[A]

I mean, here's the thing, because in the other franchises, I think sometimes when the hosts come in in out of drag looks, it can be a little crazy. But I think RuPaul looks cool. I like this outfit. I would wear this

[C]

RuPaul. Her ass gots a pair of gloves. Anyway, so I guess the new Prize is now $200,000. That is officially the new prize. I thought that was the All Stars. I thought it was all winners thing. I thought I was like, hey, it's all winners. No, it's just set in stone. Now everyone's getting $200,000.

[B]

They're like, we got more money.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, Drag Race is making so much money. Bitch. They can make. They should. It should be a quarter of a million dollars now at this point, But, I mean, that's their business.

[C]

So then we go into the final, the mini challenges, the minute challenge that they're going to be doing these, like, photo shoots on a ring camera. I don't have a lot of notes for this. I just wrote down that Amanda says I look sickening and slay. And that is funny because she's misusing the I look slayer.

[A]

Yeah. God bless her.

[D]

I. I'm like, I don't know. I'm scared to put this out there, but I am also tempted to see it. Like, I wish my neighbors who never talk to me, for some reason, they just Avoid eye contact every single time we see each other. But they have a ring camera outside of their door. And I cannot even imagine the craziness that they have seen from me exiting my apartment to going to the elevator to coming home from a gig, to stumbling home from a G trying to find the lock box to, like, forgetting my wig box and, like, running back and, like, trying to hold the elevator. I can't even imagine. But release the footage. Release scary.

[C]

And last thing I'll say is dawn had the funniest moment of the whole thing when she goes, I think that animals should be allowed to vote. And she go, who they vote for? She goes, not for you. That was.

[A]

I wrote that down, too. I thought that was very funny.

[C]

I agree, because it wasn't very memorable many times, to be honest.

[A]

Yeah, I think that morphine was doing a lot, but she was. Yeah, she was busting out splits and doing a whole lot, and I was wary. When people, like, bust out all their tricks in the first 30 minutes of the season, I'm like, girl, pace yourself. Like, what? Leading to me surprised or.

[B]

But maybe she tricks up her sleeve.

[C]

Maybe there it is. Maybe there it is. Sapphira Cristal is the horny queen of the season. They're all getting out of drag. Sapphira Crystal wants to top everyone in the room. And I feel like someone called dawn the. What is the peanut butter baby? Do you guys know what the peanut butter baby is?

[B]

I don't know.

[D]

Oh, yeah, the baby that's, like, covered. It's, like, from Vine. It's, like, covered in peanut butter, and it's like, oh, I think.

[A]

Oh, I know.

[C]

I've seen that.

[A]

I've seen that meme. Yeah, Kim, you said you think you were gonna finish. Say something.

[B]

I don't remember.

[C]

Well, RuPaul, but before that, during this time, people take more time. They are not leaving Amanda alone. They have made it clear we do not respect you. We do not think you are good. We do not think you're in. Every opportunity they have, they are going to let Amanda know, we do not respect you.

[B]

We will not settle until Amanda is dead.

[C]

I mean, honestly, it's starting to fucking feel this way. If I was to, I'd be like, what is wrong with y'?

[B]

All?

[C]

What you saying, Monet? Go ahead.

[A]

Well, I say Rubaw comes back in, and he announces Sapphira as one of the challenge. I feel like this. So on these picture challenges, kind of like Top Model, they can get. They can show a frame of me. Like, I want a Bob, like doing like a great thing and who knows, like, they can. They can they get to choose whoever the winner is. I do think Sapphire had a great picture, but, like, how I would want to see my frames. I would want to see what my frames were.

[B]

Yeah, but you want to see your best photo.

[A]

It's $2500.

[B]

And also, do you think it's really funny how like every year they do just like, you know, everybody's getting out of drag and everyone's like, oh, so and so is cute out of drag. Like, oh, I would top so and so. In reality, no one is sleeping with no. Like, none of the other drag queens.

[A]

Banji and what's her name and Brooke

[C]

in 16 seasons, Monet and that girl in All Stars 7.

[A]

That happened before the season, though. Jacob Monet.

[C]

Shut the fuck up. And I would say in all of the. Yeah, in all the seasons there has been no. But maybe it's an opportunity to, like, let us as drag queens be allowed to be sexual out of drag because we're so sexually in drag that they're like, who's cute and who's. But it really is a conversation that happens for three seconds in the first episode and it is never happening again.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Throughout the whole season.

[A]

That didn't happen on y' all season. There wasn't that energy. The. The.

[C]

That's not true. Chi Chi said that you. Chi Chi said that Layla McQueen has such a great. But I'm such a top.

[A]

All right, that's true. You're right.

[C]

And then Acet said that she was hitting on Kim and then Or G said that she wanted to Leila as well.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yeah. Thorgy and Chichi both said they wanted to top Layla.

[D]

I feel like Thorgy was. Thorgy was thirsting after the camera, guys. That's what I remember the camera.

[A]

Like, that's Georgie's time.

[D]

Yes. She likes a man. Like.

[A]

Yeah. She likes a manly. She like Thorgy, like, likes like, like a short, blue collar worker looking kind of guy.

[D]

Harry.

[A]

Yeah. Stock.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Dorothy. Really? Will, your dad. It's not a bit. A lot of girls say there's a bit. Thorgy's not joking. Georgie Will, your cat. This is. I've known her for years. Georgie will top your father. And I'm not even joking about Thorgy

[D]

Thor is your new stepmom. Thorgy Thor is your new stepmom.

[C]

So RuPaul announces that immunity is back. You're gonna have immunity in the future, which I think that just means because not next episode. Because there won't be the girls next episode. But she's, like, vaguely being like, there will be immunity in a future episode or down the line or crazy.

[B]

Because most times in reality shows when you get immunity, you're immune for the next episode, but the fact that you can use it any point of the season.

[C]

Or maybe she's just not saying next episode because these girls aren't competing in the next episode. And maybe I'm assuming also no one's going home the next episode either. I'm just assuming because it was weird. And she also announces that the Queen is going to be judging each other, so it's low key All Stars rules. But they're giving it a slight squid game.

[B]

Yeah, but from the way they made it sound like, you can, like, save the immunity for, like, the rest of the season and use it like, whenever,

[A]

like Survivor or something. Like, you find it in the first episode, you can use it up until the top five, which would be fierce if you could do that on this.

[C]

So. So we go back to the mirror moments, or they're getting ready for the.

[A]

Wait. No, no, no, no, no. Charlize Theron comes in.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Charlize Throne.

[C]

I mean, not much happened, but yeah, Charlize came in and.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Hey, everyone.

[A]

Okay?

[C]

I don't know.

[D]

She's. She's so tiny.

[A]

Which.

[C]

Which not tiny's like 6 foot 1.

[A]

No, she's 5 11.

[D]

Like, she looks like that is like 6 1.

[A]

Oh, yeah, she is that. But, like, compared to the girls, I will say the. Like, I was like, oh, Charlize is tall. I guess. But also, I always get so skewed with height on Drag Race because I forget a lot of these queens are probably very tall. And then, so Charlize comes in and she's, like, shorter than all that. I'm like, this must be a tall season. Like, y' all fucking bitches. All three of y' all are so tall. Y' all have this very tall season. Besides Layla, I'm the shortest out of

[C]

the three of us, and I am. And everyone sees me, goes, you're so tall.

[A]

Yeah, that's right.

[C]

I guess I don't get sick of it, but it is a. When you're in drag and you're at a meet and greet, you're. You are so tall is like what it's like. It's like every third person I know. And when. And when you're. And when you're not particularly skinny, they use the word big. They use the word big. Or sometimes they even go say huge.

[A]

Well, you're. You're huge.

[D]

I think we might be the tallest top three, and I think we are the top three that actually likes each other.

[B]

Yeah,

[A]

Season six. Bianca season. They liked each other, right?

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Abcd, Whatever the hell.

[D]

Yeah. Okay.

[C]

At least we're talking about All Stars. You all didn't like each other. Monet. Wow, interesting. Who did you not like? Because we know you like Naomi. Was it. Was it Mo, or was it Trinity? Which one was it?

[A]

Yes.

[D]

She doubled my day.

[A]

Let's go.

[C]

Let's. So when they get back to the mirror moments again, I'm telling you, at every opportunity, they are being mean to Amanda Torrey. Meaning? I don't know, I'm starting to wonder, is she doing stuff to them off camera that we aren't seeing? Because they don't like this bitch.

[A]

Well, also, I will say in her confessional look, she looks kind of crazy. Like, she looks like in her confessional look, she's like. Her hair is all crazy and she's just like. She's, like, looking.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

She has a very threatening interview look, in my opinion.

[C]

The mullet.

[A]

Yeah, she just. Oh, she has. She has crazy eyes.

[D]

She's on. Yeah, she's like an Adderall diva, kind of.

[A]

So she probably, like. She's probably doing a lot. If she. She's like that in her confessional, she's probably doing the most in the room. You know what I mean? So that's probably why she's getting that energy.

[D]

You guys gotta. Well, for anyone who, like, pays attention to the interviews, you gotta, like, watch the difference of, like, Amanda, Tori, her, like, bangs or sometimes, like, a different direction, or they're straight down or to the other direction. And then also, Morphine's hair changes a lot.

[C]

Oh, does it?

[D]

Yeah. The splice of all the different.

[A]

Well, I will say, when I see people like Morphine, I'm like, bitch, you got up to get. Well, also, you. I guess you're gonna be on camera every day in the. In the workroom. So, like. And she's probably a part of her daily routine before Drag Race is getting done up. I'm like, she had to get beat every morning at 7 o' clock in the morning to do these confessionals. That's crazy to me.

[C]

No, I will say this. We have another. Well, came and Kim and Monet, you can talk about this. We have another queen whose parents don't know they're doing drag, but also, she lives with her parents. Like, where do they think she is?

[B]

I don't know, maybe she, like, lives in, like, a guest house or something. Because otherwise, like, where do you throw your drag

[C]

and where do you say you're going for a month? What do you do? They know she's a promo tour. They're like, like, where. What's happening?

[A]

Yeah. I mean, my family knew I did. I did drag. Just my parents in St. Lucia didn't, but they lived in another country, so my. My family in America knew I did drag.

[C]

So let's head to the main. So let's head to the main stage of RuPaul's Drag Race. I love that Derrick Berry is hosting the. The talent show. I just. Absolutely. I just love that.

[D]

So fitting. So right now for, like, spring break.

[B]

Get your gigs, girl. Get your gigs

[D]

also. She deserves it. They did. They played in her face when she went back for All Stars. So, like, she should be doing this every season. She should be hosting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But also, like, imagine how iconic would have been if Derek stayed on All Stars with India. Farah.

[A]

Girl, you're a robbed of very good.

[B]

He really missed out on, like, the best drama that could have happened.

[A]

Yes. 1,000%.

[D]

I'm gonna just say, too, Ru looks so fucking bomb. This dress.

[B]

I know. This dress is everything.

[D]

Everything.

[C]

Okay, we're going to the talent show first. We're going to get to everyone. We're going to get to.

[A]

Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[C]

I have to say this.

[A]

I liked Ru's look. I didn't. I feel like she should have knocked them blue contacts. I feel like the blue contacts really took me out.

[D]

We got to get rid of those blue contacts.

[A]

The blue ones, right? Like the hazel ones. Those all work. Wonder. That ice blue with that. I just. That's the only thing I didn't like. But I love this dress. The dress is beautiful.

[C]

Well, let's go ahead and do. Let's do the looks now, then. So. Yeah, I mean, this ombre. It's not even ombre. It's like a sunset.

[A]

Gorgeous.

[C]

Sherbert tool silk or like, I don't even know what it is. Is that tools? Like a silk chiffon? Whatever. It looks amazing. It looks really mesh. I don't know what that is, actually. It looks really good. It's draped beautifully. I love Charlize's look. I love. I love. I always like Carson's look. He kind of looks like a. Like a camp gay uncle. And I think that Michelle looks really good as well. I think they all look really amazing, actually.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So then let's go. Performances. What Happened. What do you want to say? What I missed? What happened? What happened? What I missed?

[B]

Monet, get it together.

[C]

Me and Kim are really left out of the loop on this one. Me and Kim are like, what is happening? So going on to Morphine. So Morphine decided to do this number. She was like, I want to use my. Like, embrace my Latin American heritage. But then she did a number about an artist that wasn't Latin American.

[A]

I was like, okay, wait, who was the artist?

[C]

That's Rosalia.

[A]

Where is Rosalia from?

[C]

From Spain. She's European.

[A]

Oh, I thought she was Colombian.

[C]

Rosalia's from Spain. I'm almost positive. Jacob, you can Google it real quick. But I'm almost 100 positive Rosalia is from Spain. But that being said, the number was really great. She looked beautiful. She looked sexy. She did a really good job.

[A]

I love the hair.

[D]

I like that I had, like, the. I don't. I'm not normally a fan of, like, when. If I can see your nape situation, but the way that it was done was, like, not, like, too cookie cutter or not, like, rippling lace. It was more, like, in a natural way.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. I liked it.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Rosalia is from Spain, and I kind of liked that she did, like. I mean, I know it's branding and you want to make your coin and do your track, but I kind of liked that there was, like, a drag show, like, element.

[A]

Yeah, I agree.

[C]

Let's go on to Dawn.

[A]

Let's go on Dawn. Amanda.

[C]

No, Don is next.

[A]

Amanda.

[C]

Babe, you're right. Yeah.

[A]

Amanda.

[C]

Really high energy.

[A]

Amanda. Tory.

[C]

This outfit is ugly as sin. This outfit.

[D]

This wig.

[A]

The wig rotted.

[D]

The dishwasher. Blonde

[A]

dishwater block.

[C]

That being said, the. The song is. I think the song was really funny. It was my favorite of the original songs. It was really camp, and. But the other girls just didn't even. I was like, this looks fun. If I was at the club, I think I'd be cheering. The other girls were just like, no, no.

[A]

I think because the look was so jarring. That's why it takes you out of the world. But I agree, her track was fun. I think her.

[B]

Her.

[A]

The number was fun. But the hair. Oh, my God. What's crazy?

[D]

The hair was insane.

[B]

Is it wrong to say I kind of liked it? So, you know. You know, like what Amanda reminds me of, you know, like, in the 90s or something. You look up at, like, an article about, like, gay pride parade, and then there's always, like, a picture of, like, a random drag queen, like, in that article. And they all look like Amanda.

[C]

Yeah. They look that way, though, because they do drag once a year. That's why those drag queens look like that, because they've only done drag. And one drag queen painted six people as fast as she could and got their outfits together as cheaply as possible. That's why they look like Amanda.

[A]

Yeah. Woof.

[D]

But her lyrics are in track. Remind me of the lyrics that you wrote me for Pose. Bob, I want to introduce you to my friend. I was like, whoa, did she mop our.

[C]

Wow.

[D]

Well, I got sued for pose, so now I can sue her.

[C]

Did you really sued?

[D]

I did. Mm.

[C]

Did you have to buy the show Pose?

[D]

There was, like, a sound effect that wasn't cleared, and it, like, just. It was a whole.

[B]

Did you have to settle and now

[C]

you need to make that.

[D]

Yeah. And then I had to, like, re. Redo it.

[C]

That's gonna make the money back by suing her.

[A]

Someone, someone, someone, someone pulled up, pulled a. Pulled up, pulled a Khalees on you, honey.

[D]

Everybody, I'm you.

[C]

So should we go on? Let's go on to Dawn.

[A]

This is a fun number. I think this was a fun number. It was interesting. I liked her look. There were these reveals. I. And especially if she said she makes all her clothes and she made this. I think it was great. Someone did the arm thing. Oh, no. They did this on Legendary. The House of Juicy Couture when they did the Freddy Krueger number. That's what I'm thinking of. But I thought this was great. This is a great number.

[C]

I thought it started off super impressive. Go ahead, Kim.

[B]

Oh, no, I think in terms of, like, skill wise, I think she's super impressive. And it seems like her references are, like, of her own, you know, and she's not really copying anybody else. So I'm curious to see, like, what other stuff she has in store.

[C]

Yeah, I think her references, like, her fashion references are really unique, but I don't know that this. This concept for the number feels super unique to me. I like the way it started more than I like the way it ended. I love that sleeve bit was really creative and really clever for me, but I don't know that her voice is one that I want to hear on music. Like, I. I don't mind hearing Amanda's voice, but I don't know that I want to hear her voice doing. At least doing this kind of music. Maybe she hasn't found her. Her voice yet. Or. Or maybe. Maybe I'm just not the intended audience. That also could be a possibility too.

[D]

So far, my favorite thing about dawn is that her favorite drag queen is Roxy Andrews.

[A]

Oh, that's her favorite drag queen, which

[D]

I find so interesting for her drag aesthetic. But she. She saw that. She saw the doll, and she's like, okay, I'm gonna do this. I want to know how much it's

[C]

interesting for you too, because I always think.

[A]

Because you and.

[C]

You and I know she's your favorite queen, too, but makeup and hair wise, you two are so, you know, different. But you can still. But she'd still be your favorite, though, you know? I mean, I get that.

[D]

I just love that Roxy Andrews is such a woman. That is such a woman.

[C]

She is.

[A]

She is. Can't do everything. That's. That's right. That's why I get jealous of y' all. People that can do all this. I get so jealous.

[C]

Let's. Let's go on to Q, who did, like, a little puppet show. Q did, like, every puppet show and where she was like a little ballet dancer, and her feet were the. Where the ballet slippers. And it was. It was pretty funny. It was kind of one note, but how many notes can you hit within a. I think she did a pretty good job considering the very short time frame that she had to do this in. And, yeah, I think she did a good job.

[A]

I liked it. I thought this was very funny. I thought it was entertaining. I thought it was different. Again, I love we. Because now we see talent shows for regular season and all stars. Like, I think it's, like, really trying to do shit that people haven't done. And I. I thought this was funny, and I. I liked it a lot.

[B]

Yeah, I love this one too. An original song.

[D]

She took advantage of the set that they were providing, too. Her set was huge.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So let's have a conversation about Mirage. I love this look. I love this performance. I love this track. I like the lyrics that she wrote down. I mean, that she said. She said, call me cunt, and I'll call you a dude. I don't know why that. That tickled me when she go, put your man on leash. All men are dogs. These. They felt like real lyrics. Wasn't just like, snatch the crown, I'm gonna get a gown, ba boo. I'm gonna wear. Like, it didn't feel like a bunch of, like, you know, Drag Race quotes over and over again. It felt like actual lyrics, and her voice sounded good with the lyrics. So I love this performance.

[A]

Performance.

[C]

There was one weird part where she kind of stopped lip Syncing for like, ah, like three seconds. I was like, are you noticed that?

[A]

I think what I liked the most was the like intentionality. Like every move had a purpose. Even when she did that walk the dog line and she kind of like propelled herself like she was dog walking thing. I like, I love the intention of it and I thought that's what made us stand out. It wasn't just doing tricks to do tricks. Like they all made sense within her number.

[D]

I, I really liked it. I mean I think she's very talented. I do love Michelle's read where she's like. I think if you, if you have. If we had you do it three times, it would be different each time. Which I think is such a, like a good note for like planning your performance and having like a little bit more of a layout instead of like. Because I mean the was like flopping all over the floor at some times where I feel like it could have been a little bit more intentional or to camera or with delivery.

[A]

But I see, I feel like I.

[C]

That's what I.

[A]

That's what I like. I disagree with Michelle's note because that's what I liked about it most. Like I feel like it wasn't predictable. I feel like it. It felt like it felt cool but also organized enough. But teach his own.

[D]

Like she's a little like off center sometimes. When I think it just would have been more impactful when it's like center of the Runway. But.

[B]

But for sure, I think she's the girl that's gonna go to all the club gigs and like turn it out,

[A]

make all. Make the tip.

[B]

For sure.

[A]

Let's go on to Tsunami next, which was Tsunami. Tsunami. Tsunami. Muse in this look and this number. I thought this was. This was pretty boring, especially coming from. I guess she's not the house of Aja, but from. From that world of does the Aja's and the Candies. Whatever. I was expecting a little more for this number and it felt very flat.

[B]

I think she fell into like the victim of being a little too like sincere with her performance as opposed to like camping it up. Yeah, because she didn't like take advantage of like the set. Like there's like nothing going on aside from just her, you know, and the palm trees.

[A]

What? I don't even understand why the palm trees. I don't get it.

[B]

Yeah, I didn't get that either.

[C]

That's spring break Latin America. Oh, it was from spring break still. Was that what it was still from the. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's from that that's

[A]

from, like, the show.

[C]

That was even, like, her thing.

[B]

There was like, nothing for her. Yeah.

[A]

Number Jag. Damn.

[C]

Drag her, yo. I will say this way. What I don't understand. Like, I don't know that she is. Is a. Like, the lyrics were great, but I don't know. But I didn't like hearing her voice say them. I don't know that she's a rapper. Like, I don't know that she has the musicality of a rapper. I don't know that she's going to be releasing songs after this. So if you. Here's my thing. Do an original track. If you're going to be doing music and stuff.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But if you're not,

[D]

do what you're good at.

[C]

Yeah. Like, why, like, are you going to be going forward creating original tracks? Like, it makes sense for Shay Clay to do an original track because Shay Clay is doing original music and stuff. But, like, are you doing. Is it literally just for this? And this is your. This is. You're, like, done. I don't know. Or. Or if you're gonna do that, it needs to be really. There needs to be concept to it. Like, if, like, for example, like. Well, Trinity does a lot of music, but Trinity did an original song, but she did this whole concept around it. Naomi Smalls had the. The wig reveal thing. Even the Monet change had the sponges. Monet. You do music, though. You have. You do music, though. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, but I don't understand. It seemed like Toonami didn't have a. Didn't have a. It just seemed like she didn't have a concept besides, like, I'm cunt and I'm gonna move around.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

And last but not least.

[C]

Oh, I do want to ask one quick question for Naomi, though, because she likes to incorporate her Runway and everything. You're a Runway girly. How did you feel about Tsunami's Runway? Her walk? Because she incorporates. She incorporates her walk in her performances. Do you remember being like, oh, this walk is giving?

[D]

Yeah. I think she walks very, like, fluid. I feel like she honestly could have done a walking talent somehow. Like, I feel like there is something in there that you can definitely play around with if we're gonna, like, gas it up and that be the focal point of your performance. But yeah, yeah. She looks short. Is she short? I think she is short.

[A]

I. She's not. I would say she's probably, like, maybe like, 5, 5, 8, 5, 9, something like that.

[D]

She's like. She's a Kate Moss height.

[C]

She's the same height as Candy.

[A]

She's the same. About his.

[C]

Candy.

[A]

How tall. Out of. How tall is.

[C]

Can I have such, like, Candy's, like, your height. Candy's maybe a little shorter than you Got it.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

I love her voice, though. Every single. Like, not her singing voice, but her. I love her talking voice.

[A]

Her speaking voice.

[D]

Yeah. But moving on the voice.

[B]

We haven't talked about the fire.

[A]

Oh, you're right.

[C]

Sorry about that. So let's go into Sapphira. Monet, you're the opera singer. You'll take this one.

[A]

I thought Sophia. I thought this was a really dope concept. I love that she came doing this talent. She has her little. Those floral set dressings. And I love that she twisted the lyrics of Omi Abbi Nocado, because that's not what the lyrics are, obviously. But she made. It made sense. And she did some tricks. A split in there. I thought it was great. She sounded great. I thought this was a great talent.

[B]

Yeah. I thought it was really fun.

[C]

She made it crazy. She made a camp without being like, you know, she was just, like, subtle things that. That were good sometimes, you know. You know, the queens are. Are like the twins. The twins are like. And that's, like, humor to them, and I appreciate that Sapphire has a better understanding of. Of. Of. Of. Of humor.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Who is responsible? Who's like the one that you put. Who do you think had the idea of doing the lyrics on the stage with the screen and all that?

[C]

Her was her.

[A]

I think it's her.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

It's so smart. So, so smart.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. And I. I really. I don't know what she's doing with her fucking makeup. How does she look so dewy? How does she look so shiny?

[D]

But I was studying the way that she was, like, trying to, like, painting in the workroom, and I was like, oh, that's a different way to do it. I really like her makeup.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Even zoomed out. You can, like, tell it looks bomb.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah, I agree.

[C]

Just love it. Let's go into the judging. So with the judging. Okay. First of all, we should talk about the looks first.

[A]

Runways. So the category was Reveal yourself.

[B]

And.

[A]

And the first queen up was Miss Morphine. A lot of people, Michelle, and a couple of judges had a problem with this reveal. I thought it was fine. Like, I wouldn't. If she had the towel on her head, I wouldn't know this was a dress, a reveal. I would have thought it was just, like, a white dress.

[B]

Yeah. But the funny thing Is for her entrance look, you know, for his pedestrian as it was. It was rhinestoned, but then this one wasn't. And I thought the swimsuit underneath should have been rhinestoned.

[A]

Yes, 1000%. I agree. Even the flowers at least. Rhymes with the flowers. And leave the blue alone.

[C]

I assume what Michelle was saying was that. Not the way it was revealed, but what she revealed to. What she revealed to is low key. A really lame swimsuit. And the dress before is cooler. The notion of this towel being a dress that's wrapped around her body is a cooler idea than this swimsuit that I feel like you could get at any department store.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So maybe that's what they make. I think the reveal was really cool, but, like, not to this.

[D]

This. She was brave. I will say this wig reveal is very brave. If you're ever gonna do a wig reveal, to have, like, have the bulk of the flower underneath it one is very bizarre to me. And then to do straight, like to reveal your hair to straight is like a recipe for disaster. Because when you're wearing straight hair, you have to be so conscious of, like, brushing and flattening and oiling and slacking. So to wrap it up into a towel and then have it. Cause all that frizz is just very. That's not what I would ever do. If I'm ever doing a wig reveal, I always try and have there be, like, some sort of wave or curl or some sort of, like, a little bit more forgiving than straight hair. Straight hair. The moment she took it off, like, one side was just, like, fucked up and mad. Well, look at the footage.

[A]

You know, I would never. That's great work.

[D]

So definitely if you're ever going to do a wig reveal, I mean, I've done my towel head reveal, too, and always have a curl in there. Always just to diffuse the eye a little bit work.

[C]

Let's go on to. To. To Dawn. And I just wish that when she did the reveal that the. That the hood would have become a train. That would have been really cool to me. I thought it was gonna be a train, but it just kind of, like, stayed on the floor. In fact, to me, all of the reveals were a little bit messy because everyone was just, like, throwing their clothes on the floor. And I was like, yeah.

[B]

Also, I'm sure, like, she had nothing to do with, you know, like, how the order was chosen. But to come from a performance where we just did the arm reveal to her reveal where it's like another long arm reveal, it's like all Right.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But I don't understand what she's supposed to be. Is she. Is she a bird?

[D]

Is she a yeti?

[C]

She looks like a yeti, and. And now she's like, a pretty yeti.

[A]

Got it.

[D]

I mean, I think she. I wonder how much time they had in between, because this face is so different than her talent show face that it's. Yeah.

[A]

I went back to look at her talent. I'm like, was she. Was she purple in her talent? No, I don't think so. I think she. Yeah, she added that.

[C]

Can we please go into one of the craziest looks in the history of. Every time they cut back to this look, I kept going, like, what am I looking at? And I don't want to join on the be mean to Amanda train, but, my God, I don't know. First of all, the. The edit. I know for a fact they. That people go out there, make a mistake, and they will cut it. They. They cut mistakes all the time. All the time they cut mistakes.

[A]

But she should have kept it because she was revealing. If she. It would have. It would have fallen in line with who we have been, who Amanda has been revealing herself to be. If she would have twirled out and the wig would have fell and be like.

[C]

And just, like.

[A]

Just pretend like it was an early reveal. Walk down and could you do, like, 10, 10. Two seconds later, you do the rest. She would have twirled out, the wig fell, and keep on going down and do the rest. I think that would have landed better, which probably forgot.

[C]

Nothing would have helped this. There's nothing to help this look. No amount of charm or anything could help the. This wig. This. Why is hers. Why. If you're gonna be purple, why is the rest of your skin all human color?

[A]

Yeah, I do.

[B]

I did love to look beforehand with the face Keeney, like, with the face over it.

[A]

That was cool.

[B]

I kind of wish, like, she just, like, never took that off.

[A]

Yeah, I wish. What I wish. What I think would have been fierce is she would have pretended to reveal the thing and do, like, a kata. Oh, Katya's not the first one to do it, but, like, act like she was revealing Ms. Facekini and had the exact same one underneath. That would have been gone.

[B]

Yeah, actually,

[D]

there is. I need a psa. Like, I need to, like. Like, this needs to go to every drag queen out there. Stop pudding. Stop putting black bobby pins on the outside of the sideburns of your fucking wig. Stop putting sideburns there. I mean, stop putting bobby pins there. Period. Definitely focus on like alcoholing before you wig glue down your sideburns. And the fucking audacity to do this with no earring is truly disturbing. It is really disturbing. I can forgive the makeup and everything. I can forgive even the, the sea urchin look or whatever.

[C]

But, like, you can forgive makeup. Oh, in 2023, you can forgive makeup.

[B]

You would forgive this makeup.

[D]

You need to redirect this anger. You need to redirect this anger to Kim. I promise I did not bash on you that much. It was just because we were such good friends. It was a duo.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

But

[B]

Naomi, I cannot believe you'll betray me like this. All these times I was here for you.

[D]

And also I made it up. I did your makeup. We had a whole thing, you know?

[C]

Yeah. I can't forget makeup. This right here, it's crazy. This whole thing is wild.

[D]

I not, I mean, I'm not calling her, but this wig with the bobby pin and the no earring. Like, I, I, I can't like, I actually, I have no, nothing nice to say about that corner of her face.

[B]

You know, like, the bobby pin is giving very, like first year doing drag. Do you remember, like, when we were like, up and coming drag queens and you buy these like, anime wigs from Amazon that all have, like, super long bangs?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

You like. And you don't even know about, like, crisscrossing bobby pins. You take like one bobby pin and like, you pinned.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

It's giving very. Dad.

[D]

It's just really disappointing because she's, she's in a human unit that is custom colored. So if we're going to put all that effort into. And she's glued it down. So we're going to put all that effort and then we're going to stick this black bobby pin on, like the most visible side of your face with no earring. I wish she even just like glued the bobby pin to her ear to make like a little like stick earring or something. Like, it's, it's so, it's so disheartening to me as a drag queen. I hate that fucking bobby pin. Yeah.

[C]

Let's go on to Tsunami Muse, who looks quite stunning. She looks very good in a bang. Each of these outfits were good. They did, they did start getting, in my opinion, a little progressively more boring as she took off more clothes.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But that being said, she looks really good, though.

[B]

Her makeup looks really beautiful.

[A]

Her makeup is stunningly beautiful. I think her first look was the strongest one to me. Like, just like trench coat Thing, I think that was her strongest look. And then I agree, as she did more reveals, it got progressively less impressive. Her first one was really, which is normally. It's normally. I guess it's not always the case. It's different. But yeah, I like her first look the most.

[C]

Do you have a highlight on the ball of her cheek or is that just literally light hitting her?

[B]

That's how Candy Muse does her highlight too. Just like a little circular right here.

[A]

Oh, really?

[C]

It's cute.

[B]

And oh, that's so smart because, like, if it's all the way like this, you don't see it half the time unless it's from a specific angle. But to your make it seem like you're like just sitting. Anyways, Cute

[D]

Face hair body. Sorry. Face hair sequin coat bomb. I'm old school. Ditch the nude illusion. Spray adhesive to your chest. That's it. That's about it.

[A]

There it is. Yeah, I agree with that. Let's go on to Q. So people, did she say was. I didn't get the Huntsman thing. Everyone making the Huntsman joke. I was like, is she wearing a Huntsman?

[C]

I don't know. The only color the Huntsman. Because Charlize Theron was in Snow White and the Huntsman. This outfit is not. Is not a reference to Snow White and the Huntsman. But Charlize Theron was the queen, the evil queen in Stormy the Hunt, which is why they can't make it. And it looks slightly like it could

[A]

be from that world.

[C]

In terms of this look. I. The only thing I didn't like was the hat. Everything else about was really cool. I hate this hat. I don't know why I don't like this hat. I just do not care for it. But the rest of it, I think is actually really cool. It is very Broadway. It is very theater. It is very camp. But I really like it a lot.

[A]

She like a butterfly.

[B]

Like a. Yeah, like a dragon too. Because like she starts off as like a butterfly, but then like after she takes up the butterfly costume, it's like, okay, so here's like an insecty looking black gown.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I feel like she thought about. Not really.

[A]

I mean, I don't story.

[C]

I just think it looks cute.

[B]

I think like on a technical level, it's impressive, but I don't think there was like a clear concept.

[A]

Yeah,

[C]

that's fair.

[A]

Let's go on to. Oh, sorry, Naomi.

[D]

No comment.

[C]

I love Naomi. Let's go into Mirage. I loved this look. I love that her arm is inside of this I. I love this queen. Every year I. There's one queen that I just like, started loving for this. This. I know, I know she's not going to win. I love this queen. And when she comes out and she kept like, kind of hiding herself behind the feathers and then opening up and then hiding herself and then opening up, it was great. Her boob plate looked good. I cannot say the same for Sapphira Crystal, Sapphire Crystal. Cities were wild. But, yeah, Mirage looks good.

[A]

I love that.

[C]

She's got just shit all over her face. The glitter and random spots. She's so unique. Like Mirage.

[A]

I think she does. In her promo, she had like, it was like 3D. I love. She does this. She always does a crazy thing when I do think that's a signature thing for her. That's cool. I do like that. But this look, I was like, I don't. I don't like this look.

[D]

I think this is probably the most polished. Polished I've seen her

[B]

or.

[D]

And I do like her in a shorter shoe, but I do hate this shoe. Do you know what I mean? It's like this is. This is the. Like, I'd actually rather see her in like one of her stripper platform, like a blue one or something like that or an orange one. But I do like seeing her in something else that's. I've never seen someone rhinestone their titty. Maybe I'm not like a very titty bib aficionado, but I've never seen someone put rhinestones on their actual titty plate. Did you guys clock that? Like those, like.

[A]

Wait, outside of the pasties, there were. There were. Those are rhinestones on it outside of

[D]

the earrings, glued to her nipples. Yes. There are little moles.

[B]

Oh, I didn't notice.

[A]

I don't know.

[D]

Rhinestones.

[C]

Look at how you have. What a good eye you have. Let's go. Let's go on to Sapphire Crystal. I think this look got less impressive as it went on. But also, I will say this because we don't have to. In my humble opinion, we don't need to reinvent the body. The leotard. And like an overly. An overly produced leotard looks like an overly produced leotard. So it's not going to be like this. Like, if it, like, for example, if this same leotard had. Had an. Had a. Had an amazing skirt over it that she would later whip off during a lip sync, I could, I could be like, yes, but not as the outfit itself.

[B]

You know, I've always been confused about queens who get like custom leotards. Like, that doesn't stretch, but like

[A]

a leotard that does not stretch. It makes no sense to me. And for some, for a queen who's so seasoned, like, you think she would know that this was not a great look for her?

[C]

You own Monet. You and I both own leotards at own stretch. You and I both own this. When you wore one to dragcon, that black and white leotard that you have that domino made you does not stretch.

[A]

The black and white leotard.

[C]

It's a black and white. You wore the dragcon.

[A]

Oh, and that was a bad bitch. I had diaper booty in that. That was not a good choice.

[C]

We've done it before. We've both done it.

[A]

But that does not change that. I did not think this was an impressive look. I did not like even how it started, the blue thing. I guess I was fine to start starred. But as she got to the next thing, I was like this o, like. And she got to the final thing and she show. I, I, I didn't. I didn't like this at all.

[C]

I have one leotard that doesn't stretch, I think looks really good. And it is my, my. If you guys, season one of We're Here, I wore this, like, white cowboy suit with a st. It's like white. This white denim leotard. It is very rare for leotard to not be other. But typically speaking, your leotard should be stretch. And even if it's not stretch at all, just in the middle. Just in the middle in the crotch, you need to have elastic there so it can snap in. Otherwise there's gonna. There's gonna end up being space between your body and the garment, you know, and these boobs were. These boobs were in. They were. They were next door neighbors. They were more. They were living in the same apartment.

[A]

Girl, her boobs look like Amanda's eyes just too close together. What I mean, in drag, when she paints the drag, it's too close.

[C]

You need to be more specific. All right, let's, let's, let's keep moving. So let's go into the judging. I don't think that mirage knows what all natural means. Like, she's like, she's like, not Mirage.

[D]

Morphine, morphine, morphine.

[C]

I think he's being like, bbl, bbl, bbl. And she goes, it's all, all natural. I'm like, girl, like, this is all naturally in the way that 7Up became all natural in the early 2000s. They were like, it's all natural. I was like, girl, that's not what all natural. Just because it's your fat doesn't make it all natural. That's not how that works.

[B]

I think that's supposed to be, like, a joke. Like, lol. Like, I'm all natural. Bbl.

[C]

Oh, maybe I missed the joke because I was like, I didn't get it because that she. Because she was like, the fix. No, no, it's mine. Like, it's fat.

[D]

I feel like Michelle tried to read her for that too. Like, I don't think she's in on the joke.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Do y' all agree that. Do y' all agree that Don has Lucille Ball energy?

[A]

I didn't see it. I don't get it.

[D]

No, I don't get that.

[B]

They're like, you're quirky.

[A]

I don't know.

[C]

The quirky. The quirky queen pandemic is kind of getting a little. It's getting a little wild. It's getting a little wild.

[A]

I think that people just feel like that's, like, the quickest way to get into fan. Into fans. Hearts is to be quirky. Bitch. Just be you. Be you.

[C]

Because.

[A]

Yeah, anyway.

[C]

And the top two are. The top two are Q and Sapphira, which to me is if not a surprise. Were any of you surprised by that? No.

[A]

I want to see the Rita queens. I want to see if people are voting strategically. Like, I would not have. Bitch, if I was trying to. Like, I would not have put Sapphira or Q in the top two. I would have voted strategically.

[B]

But also, I think it's so funny how, like, the queens are so extra about it. Like, I'm going to put, like, tsunami number four, because I can't let her go home, like, this week. And then they're like, all right, only the top two. Is it, like, a knowledge?

[D]

Did they talk about how no one was going home or did I just fully miss that? Was it just like, okay, of course no one's going home anymore.

[C]

They didn't know until after the voting. Until they didn't know that no one's going home until after they ranked them.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Gotcha.

[B]

They made it automatic for no reason.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then they didn't even make. And we'll talk about untucked later. But I thought they were. I thought they were gonna at least reveal everyone's rankings and untucked. Not even there. There's like. Anyway, all right, thank you so much for playing. Goodbye. I was like, oh, oh, oh. Okay. That was an interesting choice. Do you guys have your. My top two were Sapphira and Mirage. Monet, what was your top two?

[A]

So my top three, I had, I had, I had. My. My favorite was Q and I was between Sapphira and Mirage for my. My second, but I went with Sapphire for top two.

[C]

How about you, Naomi? Who are your top two?

[D]

I think the top two, Q and Sapphira were my favorites for sure. Yeah, it was inventive.

[B]

Mine too. Q and Sapphire, Sapphira. But Sapphira was the winner for me for sure.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

For me as well. Sapphire was the clear winner of the episode for me as well. So we found out that the top two are Sapphira and Q and they're going to be lip syncing. There is no bottom two. There's only a top two. They're releasing to break my smile.

[A]

So I said, oh, the price went up fierce.

[C]

I mean, they have money. It is no surprise that Drag Race is making money. That is, Is a clear indicator.

[B]

But also, is this going to be another season where, like, no one goes home, like, for a long time?

[A]

Definitely these first two episodes, I think

[C]

because it's a split. It's a split season. They don't want to send someone because since Bianca season, they have not actually sent someone home on a split intro since Bianca. See, Bianca was the only season where they did a split intro. And they.

[B]

But also with the immunity and all that.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, that. Yeah, that is, that is that. Actually, that is a good point. During this lip sync, we really. As soon as it starts, I don't see it for Q. Q is doing this thing that. First of all, it's Q white. She looks white. She white.

[A]

She looks. She looks white.

[D]

She's from Kansas.

[C]

So Q is doing this thing that a lot of white drag queens do on Drag Race. I don't know how to describe this move, but this is the move. Dusty Ray Bottoms did it when y' all were lip syncing. It's this move and I really don't know what it is about this move, but I hate, hate seeing it. They do this like, just like start or they go like. And instead of like somehow like lip, they just start, like jumping around and just kind of shaking and just undulating. And so while Sapphire is like splitting and by the way, those titties were. Were paid actors. Like, they were the. It was. It got. It got bad and then it got good because she just lean into how ridiculous T were going. Then she was like, it. The titties are going to bounce, whatever.

[A]

Which normally Rupaul is very anti. You falling apart. If you start falling Apart on stage, RuPaul is going to be like.

[C]

I think. I think ruse against you pulling yourself apart. I think the difference between you pulling yourself apart. No, I pulled myself apart and you stayed.

[A]

Oh, yeah, I did. Yeah.

[C]

So, like, do you. Do you watch the own show? Were you on the show, Tamar? I've only seen one time where. Two times where a queen pulled themselves. Like, where a queen. Oh, Actually, you just kind of prove your point.

[A]

Say it. What's my point?

[C]

You proved against my point. You're right, because she. Anyway, that's not the point. The point is. The point is Sapphira was better and Q was out of her league.

[A]

Sapphire is a great lip syncer. Y' all just go on YouTube, Captain Wonder, whoever. Sapphira is a phenomenal lip syncer. If Sapphira is in the bottom, she will win every time.

[C]

I don't think Q is going to be able to send. Based off what I just saw, I can't see Q sending anyone home.

[A]

I know, I know. It's kind of sad.

[C]

She. She doesn't seem like a good lip synchro. I'm like, am I crazy?

[A]

Yeah. No, she wasn't good.

[D]

Oh. I mean, Sapphira's approach, too, to. It was, like, so much. It's a very effortless way to start the lip sync instead of the. The dusty.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

A lot of women.

[D]

I feel like Q was also singing the back vocal to start, which I hate.

[C]

That's a mistake.

[D]

You got it.

[C]

Singing lip sync in the background. Be the. You're the singer.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Has swept the entire first episode. She won both challenges. Every other girl is in the dust right now, and next week, we're going to meet a whole new batch of queens. I want to thank Naomi and Kim for joining us.

[A]

Wow. Yeah, go ahead.

[C]

I was gonna thank Naomi and Kim for joining us. And just so you guys know, Monet and I will be discussing Untucked this entire season exclusively on our Patreon.

[A]

Patreon.

[C]

So if you want to find out, head over to our Patreon. You can go to silkingrivery.com support and you can turn off our picture.

[A]

I'm so happy to have Naomi and Kim on my show for my podcast. It's been a pleasure.

[B]

Thank you for having us on your show.

[A]

You're welcome, Kim.

[D]

Thank you, Bob. Thank you, Monet. And my psa. No exposed bobby pins.

[C]

You go to a gig and Naomi sees it, you're done.

[A]

All right, bye.