Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race S16E13 "Drag Race Vegas LIVE! Makeovers" Review

Summary

Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race S16E13 "Drag Race Vegas LIVE! Makeovers" Review

Hosts: Monét X Change and Bob the Drag Queen
Air Date: April 3, 2024
Episode Focus: A detailed, irreverent, and hilarious breakdown of the Drag Race S16 makeover challenge, where the queens are tasked with transforming members of the RuPaul’s Drag Race Vegas Live! pit crew.

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Episode Overview

This episode finds Bob and Monét diving into the iconic makeover episode of Drag Race S16. The queens must pair up with Vegas pit crew members and bring family resemblance to the runway. The duo dissect each queen’s choices, the challenge's unique dynamics, the impact of the cast’s challenge wins, and broader Drag Race cultural touchstones, all with their trademark shade and wit. Plus: spontaneous debates about music, “Creole” identity, viral banana discourse, and flashbacks to Drag Race memories.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

Beyoncé’s Cowboy Carter & Pop Culture Saturation

• Beyoncé’s Country Album Blitz:
  • Monét raves about Cowboy Carter (“no skips,” even the operatic Italian art song reference, 02:52) and notes how features on Beyoncé’s album are skyrocketing the featured artists' streaming numbers.

    “A feature on this album can increase your monthly listeners by 400%... and the stuff that it’s doing for Black female country singers… it’s... beautiful.” —Monét (04:05)

  • Bob admits he just doesn’t love country or rock as genres, finds the hype overwhelming, and feels inundated by Beyoncé and Taylor Swift news, despite not seeking it out.

    “Everything I’ve learned about Beyoncé and Taylor Swift in the last two years has been against my will.” —Bob (05:06)

• The Virality Fatigue:
  • Sympathetic exhaustion over pop fandoms dominating the discourse (“the Swifties and the Beehive are, like, forcing me to learn all this.” 06:21).
  • Shoutout to SZA as a pop star they’d actually be excited to hear do a country album. (06:53)

Lip Sync & Challenge Track Records

• Dawn’s Elimination and Morphine’s Lip Sync:
  • Bob pushes against the consensus that Morphine “ate” the lip sync, saying it was a clear win, but not legendary (11:29). Monét disagrees, praising the technicality of the performance, citing flawless lip syncing and choreography (13:13).
• Dominance in Challenge Wins (Sapphira & Plane Jane):
  • The two recognize the frankly wild concentration of challenge wins:

    "Sapphira has just won her fourth challenge... Plane has four. Sapphira has four. Of the 13 challenges, they have won eight." —Bob (13:55)

  • Comparison to past seasons and debate over whether single queens/string duos having most wins is unusual (14:47).

Classic Makeover Challenge Analysis

• Pit Crew Makeovers:
  • The queens are surprised with pit crew members as makeover partners (18:20).
  • Monét and Bob reminisce on being bad at painting others, and the anxiety of painting complexions different from their own (21:19).
  • Disbelief at queens picking the “hottest, beefiest guy” for their makeovers instead of thinking strategically about drag transformation:

    “Put your boner away and talk about the challenge for a second, ladies.” —Bob (20:56)

The Math of Drag

• Extended, playful debate about how many times they've each been in drag in their lives (22:03–24:47).
• Monét tries to justify her “2,000 faces” claim, Bob brings the receipts and the calculator.
• A classic Sibling Rivalry moment: math turning into affectionate shade.

Makeover Pairings & Runway Analysis

General Observations

• Queens mostly get paired with pit crew members of similar complexions, which influences the ease of transformation (25:46).
• Nymphia gets a straight guy: Bob and Monét recall that in the show’s past, straight men make for good, dramatic transformations (27:44).

RuPaul and Drag Names

• Mini-rant about RuPaul’s habit of forcing contestants to change their drag names if she dislikes them (30:48).
• Musings on the Google-ability of drag names (e.g., “Q” vs “Plain Jane” vs “Monét X Change”) and the perils and privileges of being easily discoverable online (31:07–33:55).

Technical Drag & Transformation Tips

Painting Different Faces

• Both hosts reveal struggling to paint people with much lighter or darker complexions.
• Painting family resemblance is always easier with similar skin tones, which influences how judges perceive “success” on this challenge (25:46, 26:19).

The Art (and Agony) of Tucking

• Nymphia’s graphic tucking demo sparks confessions:
  • “I am not a tape girly... The one time I tried to tape, I did it on national television and I still have not watched the episode.” —Monét (40:22)
  • Bob: taping is “messy, cumbersome, so much upkeep,” only necessary if showing that much skin (41:30).
  • Monét’s “left ball spillage” runway horror story (42:33), exposing the precariousness of even the most seasoned queens’ drag.

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Runway & Judge Critiques Segment

Q & Sebastian (The Clown Duo) [45:43]

• Hosts’ Take:
  • Bob: Loved the pop-art, club-kid approach; appreciated masking the pit crew’s muscularity; likened the look to Crystal Methyd’s iconic makeovers.
  • Monét: Satisfied with the family resemblance; celebrates originality.
  • Notable Quote:

    “His neck is the same size as his head… but at least you got someone who could really walk in heels.” —Bob (45:31)

  • Discussion of online drama: A Spanish queen accuses Q of copying her makeup (46:36-47:35).

Morphine & Miguel [48:27]

• Hosts’ Take:
  • Bob: Dresses are too plain, felt unremarkable especially in a drag context; morphing muscularity wasn’t handled well; bad nude illusion.
  • Monét: Disagrees, says dresses are on the same level as Plane Jane’s (the actual winner); praises facial resemblance and body padding.

  • “This dress does not excite me in any way, shape, form, or fashion, particularly Latina’s dress… I would not care that this dress even existed in the same room as me.” —Bob (49:44)
    (Disagreeing) “They look exactly alike!” —Monét (49:18)

Nymphia Wynn & Partner [51:12]

• Hosts’ Take:
  • Monét: “Great” transformation (Big Bird/feathery theme), but makeup is “not fabulous.”
  • Bob: His favorite of the night, admits it’s “not legendary,” but admires the family resemblance achieved through design, not matching outfits.
  • The “banana/yellow” running gag gets dissected—both feel the fandom turns criticism against queens of color more aggressively.

    “Nymphia is wedging bananas into every challenge… Don’t act like we’re crazy for pointing it out.” —Bob (53:30)

Sapphira Cristál & Mark [55:15]

• Hosts’ Take:
  • Both: Disaster.

    “This was absolutely horrible. The styling of this is crazy.” —Monét (55:19)
    “Neck up, she looks perfect. But from the neck down, which was the challenge, it’s not giving.” —Bob (55:49)

  • Garment, accessories, and shoe choices all panned.

Plane Jane & Lazy Susan (Winner) [57:20]

• Hosts’ Take:
  • Both: Hate the “literally identical” matching look, find it lazy and too simple for a win.

    “I just don’t like that these are literally the same outfit. I hate that... So lazy.” —Bob (57:39)
    “I am gagged that she was… that’s crazy. In this reality.” —Monét (58:10)

  • Both say Q and Nymphia should have been the top two, with Sapphira absolutely in the bottom.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “Everything I’ve learned about Beyoncé and Taylor Swift in the last two years has been against my will.” —Bob (05:06)
• “Put your boner away and talk about the challenge for a second, ladies.” —Bob (20:56)
• “Painting someone else… I make myself beautiful. On someone else… I have to figure out, bitch, your colors.” —Monét (21:19)
• Robust debate: is Texas the South? Only people from Texas think so. (62:46)
• TS Madison's clapback at Drag Race stans:

  “But you motherfucking stans that think you can aggressively handle me better, do some extensive research. I will fuck you up on any given day and whoop your ass live. Play with your drag, not me. I’m not RuPaul. I’m her hood daughter.” (63:21)

• Monét on track records:

  "That's not, that's not... This is a different story, Bob. Four wins versus zero is different." —Monét (67:27)

• Sapphira’s “it is what it is. Diana Ross was Dorothy in The Wiz” (62:18) — neither host understood the country idiom.

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Key Segment Timestamps

• Challenge Wins Breakdown: 13:41
• Strategy for Makeover Partners: 20:56–21:49
• Math-Off: How Many Faces Painted? 22:03–24:47
• Tucking Methods & Mishaps: 40:22–43:44
• Runway Critique: Q/Plain Jane/Morphine/Nymphia/Sapphira: 45:43–61:11
• TS Madison Drag Race Twitter Drama: 61:30–64:07
• Lip Sync Analysis & “Track Records” Debate: 65:47–68:36
• End-of-Ep: Morphine Elimination & Untucked 71:25

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Sibling Rivalry Tone & Chemistry

True to form, Bob and Monét bring their “intensely hilarious...infectious chemistry” to this episode. They go from playful bickering (about math, drag credentials, and southern geography) to insightful, sometimes biting Drag Race critique, always laced with industry savvy and queer wisdom. Their banter is punctuated with deep Drag Race lore, genuine affection for the artform, and witty complaints about fan behavior and internet pop saturation.

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For the Listeners

If you missed the episode, this review covers:

• Every queen’s approach to the makeover challenge, and the specific pitfalls of transforming muscular pit crew members.
• A volley of controversial opinions about what kind of drag gets rewarded on the show.
• Broader issues about social media critique, Drag Race fandom dynamics, and how fan favorites burn bright (and sometimes burn out).
• Essential Drag Race history—a reminder that Sibling Watchery is both a recap and an ongoing conversation about what drag means (on and off TV).

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Sibling Watchery delivers not only a review of the queens, but also a candid and informed look into what really goes on behind the sequins.

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Notable Timestamp Guide:

• 02:52 – The significance of Beyoncé including opera
• 13:41 – Challenge wins breakdown/statistics
• 21:19 – Strategy for makeover challenge
• 22:03–24:47 – The “2,000 times in drag” debate
• 40:22–43:44 – Tucking, tape tricks, and funny trauma
• 45:43–49:44 – Detailed runway feedback begins
• 53:30 – Banana discourse and fandom
• 55:19–58:38 – Sapphira and Plane Jane critiques
• 61:30 – TS Madison Twitter response to fandom
• 65:47–68:36 – Lip sync and “track record” ethics debate

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[Wraps with affectionate “see you on Patreon” sign-off and a salute to Morphine’s run on the show.]

Sibling Rivalry: The only Drag Race review pod that will calculate your drag stats, shade your bananas, and fight with you about geography—all with love!

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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and it thinks about the customer more than anything.

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Every day, I'm thinking about some other new business, but Shopify is doing it

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Start your free [e-mail].

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hey, y'.

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All.

[A]

It's your favorite siblings, Bob and Monet. And we have some upcoming dates that we would love to see y' all at.

[B]

Please do not forget to come see us on May 5th at the Netflix Z Joke Comedy Festival in Los Angeles, California.

[A]

And then we're doing Sibling Rivalry live in San Diego on June 7. A summer of siblings. Sounds fabulous to me, Bob.

[B]

What?

[A]

I'm a Creole banshee bitch from Louisiana. Just so you know. Next time you try to start with me, just remember those little facts.

[B]

Literally, not one of those things is true.

[A]

I am Creole.

[B]

You're not.

[A]

Yes, St. Lucia is. St. Lucia is a Creole. Are you sure? We literally speak Creole.

[B]

Creole.

[A]

Creole is not just Louisiana or New Orleans. Like, that is not just what Creole means.

[B]

Okay, continue.

[A]

I am Banji. You literally call me Banji several times on this podcast.

[B]

That's what you always call me, but continue.

[A]

And I am a. So I'm three out of the four.

[B]

That one I agree with. But you don't want to call me. Actually say that. You are from the upper crust. You're the 1%. I never call you Banji. You call me Banji. I don't call you Hood. I don't call you Get. And I don't call you Banji. That's what you call me.

[A]

You call me Banji. You have absolutely call me Banj on this podcast. You have.

[B]

I have not. But I'll give you to the end of time to find a single clip of me ever.

[A]

I'm not gonna comb our footage. I'm not gonna go to the catacombs of civil rivalry.

[B]

If I was you, I wouldn't comb through it either. Cause you won't find it.

[A]

I'm not gonna go through the catacombs of civil rivalry to try to find this. But you can y', all, please. Also, anyone who knows the episode, can y' all please write a Teflon? I'm not. I'm not. No, don't ask them to do it

[B]

if you're not Gonna do it. You ask them to go on a wild goose chase.

[A]

They're not a wild goose chase. They'll know it. Don't know it.

[B]

You call me ghetto on the podcast.

[A]

Oh, yeah, you are absolutely. You are hood. You are a hood. And I've absolutely called you that. 1000%.

[B]

A person of mixed European and black descent. Are you of mixed European and black descent?

[A]

Yes, my lineage is, yes. We have some Europeans up in my bloodline.

[B]

Have you been enjoying Beyonce's new country album?

[A]

I have been thoroughly enjoying the album. I listened to the album once the first time through, and I listen and I liked it. Like, no skips for me from, like one from American Requiem through Daughter, the one where she sings. She sings.

[C]

She sings.

[A]

Caro Mioben, one of the songs which, for any opera singer, anyone who studied classical music, you get this book. It's like a rite of passage for classical singers. You get this book of 24 Italian art songs and you have to, like, learn the first one. Everyone, anyone who studied classical music learns Kara Mioben. So it's like seeing her put this song into this like this, it's hilarious, but also fucking brilliant.

[B]

It's great. You know, I tried to listen to it and I realized I don't like country music like that. Like, I like country songs, but I've never listened to an entire country album. And when I sat down and I listened, I was like, oh, my God, this is just all. This is a lot of. This is a lot of country music. And I was like, I just don't like. But I do like some of the songs. But I. But I am not. I am not a country music fan like that. I like some dumb country songs, but not like that. That's too much for me. Just like, just released a. A rock album and I did. Yes, she did. It has 30 tracks on it. And I started to listen to it and I was like, I don't like rock and roll like this. I like some rock and roll songs, but I do not like it enough to listen to 30 rock and roll songs back to back. And I just don't like country music like that. So I probably will not be giving kind of Cowboy Carter a ton over the listens, to be honest.

[A]

You know, there are a few. Well, before I say that there, like Beyonce's fucking Broken Again. Crazy Records of this Cowboy Carter is. Is her biggest debut on Amazon Music with the first day global streams of all of her albums and the most first stage streams of any country album by any female artist. Also Just being featured on this album, you have three people. You have Tanner, Tanner, Adele, Shaboozy, and Willie Jones. Like, a feature on this album can increase your monthly listeners by 400%. Tanner, Adele went from 709,000 to 3.5 million. Shaboozi went from 1.7 to 4.2 million. Willie Jones went from 347,000 listeners to 2.2 million listeners in the couple days that this album has come out. So. And also just all the stuff that it's doing for black female country singers, like her album is highlighting that and putting respect on their name that they wasn't getting before. So just all brilliant and beautiful all the way, all the way around. And it's just the impact of fucking Beyonce. It's fucking fierce. It's beautiful.

[B]

That's amazing. I'm glad that country music is having this. This moment. I am going to say I said it before, I'm a little Beyonce, Taylor Swift out. I don't think I can hear any more, but everything I've learned about Beyonce and Taylor Swift in the past, like, two years has been against my will. Like, the Swifties and the Beehive are, like, forcing me to learn all this Beyonce and Taylor Swift stuff. And I'm like, I just feel like every time I turn on my phone or look on the TV or go on Twitter or go on Tick Tock, somebody's talking about Taylor Swift or Beyonce, which, by the way, I'm happy they're having their moments.

[A]

Obviously.

[B]

I, I want. I. I certainly don't have any desire for them to not have massive moments, but it is just like, oh, my. I'm like, my God, this is a lot of Taylor Swift and Beyonce. You mean like when you tripped or is that not for the podcast? Do what? When we tripped at M's party.

[A]

Not we.

[B]

Oh, when I. I mean, I can tell. I can tell during the, during the Patreon school. It's not that great of a story, but I can certainly tell it during the. During the Patreon on Talk Story.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, you. When you say you learning like, like, like, like, like, like you're learning against, like you, like you feel like you're in the group chat with. With Will and Jada.

[B]

I've not done any research on these people, but I've learned a lot about them. That's what I mean. Against my will. Like, I've. I know some.

[A]

And you're just, you're just over it. You're like, I just can't over it.

[B]

Just that it's just that I'm. I'm not particularly interested in it. And I wasn't not interested before, but it's just like, oh, I know I know more stuff about Taylor Swift now. Now I know who she's dating. Now I know how many shows she's done. Now I know how many. Now I know how much money she's giving her truck drivers. Now I know. Now I know that she hand writes letters to people. And now I am like, why do I know all this stuff about Taylor Swift? And I'm not even doing. I'm not even doing a monochrome of research. I'm just opening my phone and. And I'm being just inundated with information about these specific two artists.

[A]

I think it's because your followers and who you follow, like, you follow people like me and lots of gay, queer people who love Taylor and Beyonce. And they are also two, I would say the two biggest female pop artists out here right now. I'm trying to think who is bigger than those two. Someone who is becoming a really close contender. Who is. Who could probably get me to listen to another country album is sza. If SZA put out a country album, I would probably listen to it. Not probably. I will listen to it.

[B]

Do you think SZA is putting on a country album?

[A]

I don't think so, but I'm just saying in the vein of Beyonce put on. Like, if you asked me two, three years ago, is Beyonce doing a country album, I would say no. That's fucking weird. But here we are, and it's fucking brilliant. And since it's someone that I could. That will put out a country album. I wish you put out a country album, and I'll probably love it.

[B]

But much success to those two. They obviously don't need. They don't need. They certainly don't need my support to have a massive fan base. And I think there's some good songs on. I have not listened to a Telesur album since the one that had look what yout Made Me do on it. But I'm sure that there's some certified bangers on whatever her last album was called.

[A]

Did you listen to the. Did you. Oh, Sza. So we'll make this really simple. Y' all leaked three songs from the deluxe. At this point, y' all can keep the throwaways and leaks. I'll be starting Lana from scratch. Shit. Okay, so SZA's gonna put out a deluxe version of her album called Lana. And when I tell you, like, all the songs are getting leaked. So now she's just starting over. That's annoying.

[B]

Someone at her camp is not keeping their. Their lips very tight. But this is not about.

[A]

Wait, last thing I want to say. Did you listen to the Jolene cover?

[B]

No, I didn't make it that far. The flip is I'll listen to it eventually.

[A]

The flip is so good. Instead of like, Jolene.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. It's like, bitch, don't fucking touch my man. I heard that part. It's like, bitch, you better not fucking touch touch my man. Or some like this. It's not. It's less begging and it's more like, don't touch my man.

[A]

Don't do it. Could you. Could you ever see us writing a song like that? Like, don't touch my man?

[B]

No, that's not really. I don't really. I'm not really. Like, that's not my personality. Like, if my man wants to touch someone else, then he should go touch someone else. And if my man wants to leave me for someone else, I would not fight to keep him. I would be like, well, then maybe you and that person should be happy together, and maybe that's for the best.

[A]

Would you fight for any of these queens on this season?

[B]

I don't know. Let's see. I've certainly argued about some of them, so maybe we can get into some of that today. So we are on episode 13 of season 16 of RuPaul's Drag Race. We are reviewing the makeover episode. This is a episode to promote the Vegas Live show. Low key a little bit. And as we are getting out of the lip sync, dawn has just gone home to body lipstick in the song Bod.

[A]

Oh, my God, you love. Thank you for promoting my song. She did. I think I went to gone and got home.

[C]

I know.

[A]

The first thing she did was she played Body by Monet x Change. Thank you, Bob.

[B]

The lip sync to Body by Monet x Change.

[A]

Okay, that's the question. Would you gag? What if Bitch Like Me was a lip syncing song on the show? Would you die? That would be so fierce. If a bitch like me is a stunty queen, I don't want me clean. How have you spoken of the Bunsey queen? I'm the queen of the motherfucking pitback. I switchback.

[B]

I hope you're not lipsticking to it, because those aren't the worst. You know, I. I would be shocked, especially if they did it without me knowing. I'd be like, oh, my God.

[A]

I mean, they would have to let you know, right? As long as they pay for the

[B]

rights, I. I would be honored if they. If they use my song. You know, my song. My music has been used on a couple things here and there, and it feels really nice. You know, my. I got one of my songs used on Survival of the Thickest, which was really nice. That felt really amazing. And I was also on, like, a McDonald's commercial or a KFC commercial in Australia

[A]

work.

[B]

So people. People can be like, you're on a KFC commercial here. I'm like, yeah, girl, gang, gang.

[A]

I had two places. I had one on a show called Hightower.

[B]

Oh, hey, I'm recording. Thank you. How are people always girl, I'm in my family's house. That's my uncle Steve. Oh.

[A]

I say, baba, you're in a hotel room, probably just ass up. And then, nigga, just walking in here all day long every five minutes, you're like, hello. Later, later, later. I've had.

[B]

I've had two families home. But also, I will say when I'm in hotels, they are always knocking. I feel like there is someone always knocking on my door, and it's just so annoying.

[A]

I've had two placements. I had a placement on a show called Hightown. They used bitch on Beyonce, and I had a placement on the shy. I think they use would you be there the way I'm there for you.

[B]

That's so exciting.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Okay, so dawn just went home. Morphine beat her in the lip sync to body. And I want to say out loud, maybe this is. I feel like I'm the only one with this take, and it might be unpopular. Dawn certainly lost that lip sync, but I didn't think Morphine's performance was that I wasn't like, my God really went crazy. I was like, she. She certainly won. And that was not up for debate, but she was going up against Dawn. Like, I don't think Don stood a chance to begin with.

[A]

Like, so you. You said you're saying whatever the song was, Morphine would have bodied her on it.

[B]

No, on this specific song, Morphine would have Morphine bite her. I'm talking about on this specific song. I think that Don's other lip syncs were better than this one.

[A]

I think pretty much every one had other lip syncs.

[B]

I mean, sorry, Morphine. I think every other performance Don has done on the show, including the verses and the dances and the challenges, have all been better than what she did on body. Everything Morphine has done, like, her first. Her first number out in the talent show was better than what she did.

[A]

Donna Morphine, you're saying?

[B]

What I'm saying is morphine, to me, did not eat the way everyone kept. Everyone's like, morphine went crazy. And I was like, she certainly beat Dawn. That's not up for debate. Whether or not she beat dawn is not up for debate, but I don't think it was just, like, crazy. Like, she went bananas. I think she's gone bananas in almost every other time. Like when she went against Maya. That was. That was great.

[A]

She was. It was the Diana, not Diana Ross.

[B]

It doesn't matter. That song.

[A]

Yes, yes, that.

[B]

That lip sync. She went off Donna Summer. People are going crazier about her. About her lip sync to body. They are about her lip sync against Maya. And I thought her lip sync is. Maya was way better. She did such a good job on that one.

[A]

Interesting. I disagree. I thought she was really good, I think, particularly because clearly Morphine has performed this song before. And the way she made sure that we knew and we saw her lip sync every breath, word, comma, the intensity of that made this lip sync feel better to me because she just, like, she did not miss anything. Like, it was just really impressive. Like, that combined with what she did dance, all her dancing and doing the choreo and stuff, that was all cool. So I think that's why it felt more impressive to me.

[B]

Um. Oh, shit. I just closed my notes on accident. Um, but Sapphira has just won four challenge three. No, she. She has four challenge wins.

[A]

Does she? Oh, yeah, she's right. Three in a row. Four altogether, bitch.

[B]

Don't ever try to correct me again, bitch. Ever in your life, bitch. Sapphira has just won her fourth challenge, which is. So. By the end of this episode, Obviously, plane has four. Sapphira has four of the 13 challenges. They have won eight of them.

[A]

That's wild.

[B]

So 9, 10, 11, 12. There were only four challenges that the rest of the group has shared.

[A]

Five.

[B]

No.

[A]

Nine.

[B]

10, 11, 12, 13, 11, 12, 13, five. Which is more. Which. Certainly more. But yeah, I was just like, they. These two have really, you know, cleaned up, and it's not uncommon for someone to dominate. A lot of the challenge wins, obviously, you know, but for so many of them to go to two is kind of wild.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, on my season, we

[B]

had eight or nine.

[A]

Three episodes.

[B]

No, we had, like, nine episodes where you could win a challenge. Or maybe eight. I think it was eight. We had eight episodes where you could win a challenge, and I won three, Kim won two, and then the other three were won by other people. Combined

[A]

going to the top of this episode. It's nice to see Q not being. Not being so upset. I think last week, I'm still a little gagged because, I mean, a lot of us on Drag Race have had the experience of feeling like you should have won something that you didn't win. But I can't remember. Maybe I'm just misremembering the show because there's been so many seasons. I can't remember a pastime where someone is so blatantly upset and goes as far as saying, you don't deserve. So it's nice to see Q being in a better place this episode and not making Sapphira feel bad.

[B]

I'm gonna assume you don't remember season five at all, because that was Roxxxy Andrews versus Jinx Monsoon the entire finale. My happiest moment was seeing you in the bottom because you don't deserve to be here. Because the rest of us are directing. You don't even deserve to be here. So I'm just gonna assume you just didn't even watch season five. Cause that was kind of the whole plot.

[A]

Right, right, right.

[B]

There wasn't. And also, it's been a while also. Aja having an entire rant against Valentina. You're beautiful. You're gorgeous. You look like a model. They eat up everything she does on that Runway. I think that jealousy of girls who win or even get good praises is a pretty common thing on. We're also getting Thorgy. Yeah, Thorgy.

[A]

But Thorgy was. But Thorgy was hating on the COVID because to you, she was like, ah. And back. And to us, she was like Bob.

[B]

But in your fans, there have been 16 seasons and seven All Stars, so. And Bibbidi Bop Boop International.

[A]

Seven is eight.

[B]

We don't talk about that one. Oh, wait, that's eight. Who won that one? So, Nick. No, Jimbo.

[A]

No Jimbo.

[B]

You know, that wasn't a good season.

[A]

I don't remember, to be honest. Did we do it? Did we review it?

[B]

We did. We're worth a RuPaul. So the next day, we. They come in and they start playing Monopoly, which doesn't seem to have anything to do with anything except to promote marketing down. There's a RuPaul Monopoly game.

[A]

Andy got a few for Christmas. I gave it the Secret Santa. Did you take it? No. Okay.

[B]

But I would have assumed that they would have made a Monopoly based challenge or something. That would have been fun.

[A]

That would have been fun. Oh, that would have been really fun. I'm not A big. I have never been a big Monopoly player. I remember as a kid, my parents got it from me for Christmas, and I was like, let's fucking. Fucking. Fucking shit. I've never wanted to be a Monopoly girl. It's too long.

[B]

Monopoly's fun. It is a long game.

[A]

It's.

[B]

It is a long game, and it can get. And because Monopoly involves extreme capitalism, basically, it's capitalism, the game where you try to make it impossible for other people to. You try to make life so expensive that other people literally just can't even live in the same area that you live in. And then you buy up their neighborhoods, you buy up their resources, you buy up their companies, you buy up their mode of transportation.

[A]

Oh, my God. We would. Jacob, can you look it up? Was Monopoly made in America? I need to. I mean, it sounds like an American game. Can you please look that up? Of course America would make this fucking game.

[B]

I mean, I wouldn't doubt it if it was. So they play Monopoly. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with anything. But then these pit crew members from the Vegas Live show come in and they find out that they are the makeovers. Yeah, us.

[A]

Yes, Hasbro.

[B]

They are the makeover challenges. So they are gonna be the ones they have to give a family resemblance to.

[A]

Have you ever met any of these? I've met two of these boys and Mark, Sapphira's partner, and I've met Nick. And Mark is literally one of the nicest people I've ever met in my life. He has a twin brother, Donald, that lives here in Los Angeles. And Nick is also very nice. He's danced on a few seasons of Drag Race. I've been on, like, he's been a part of the thing.

[B]

I may have met them, but I don't particularly remember meeting them, to be honest, because I've never really done the Vegas show. And I've gone backstage like, twice, but it's just usually heck. Like, I'm usually like, in and out. I remember meeting one guy who was like, I'm a big fan of yours, but I can't remember which one he was. It was. It was just so. It was just so quick and so in and out. But I've always had great interactions with them. And the one I know is David, and I don't think David does it anymore. Does he?

[A]

Yeah, David's the girl. David's still there.

[B]

David's. I think David.

[A]

David Radcliffe's still there, laughing.

[B]

I think he's like the Dan's captain or something.

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[B]

Also, everyone's wanting the most muscular guy. I would not want. I want the strongest, most muscular. Did y' all forget what the challenge is?

[A]

They're blinded.

[B]

Put your boner away and talk about the challenge for a second, ladies.

[A]

They're blind, bitch. You have been starved for attention for, at this point, what, four and a half weeks? You're desperate. You're like, yeah, I want the big muscly one so I can watch him tuck.

[B]

But I'm starved for the crown, too. That's what I'm really hungry for. I want to eat them gems. I want to eat them rhinestones, honey. That's what I want to eat, honey.

[A]

So this is the makeover challenge for the pickle members of RuPaul Jaggers Live. And when they do, the partners for most people, like people get partnered with. Cause in the makeover challenges, what I find tough is paintings. Again, I'm gonna say this out loud. I am not a good painter. I am not good at putting other people in drag. I'm not good at. I make myself beautiful. And I'm good at doing my makeup. Cause I've done it well over. I wanna say at least 2,000 times. Easily 2,000 times. So I'm good at me doing someone else. I have to figure out, bitch, your colors.

[B]

It's been 2,000 times.

[A]

Yes. I've been doing drag since 2012. They're 365 days a year. And I would get in drag at least half a year. Especially back in New York when I

[B]

was working this number. I'm interested. I don't know if you're wrong or not, but I'm.

[A]

What is. Are you. Are you. Nigga, are you going to war?

[B]

How many years you been doing drag?

[A]

I've been doing drag for 12 years now.

[B]

I mean, even if you did drag every single day, it'd be 4,000 times.

[A]

Right?

[B]

That's if you did it every single single day for 30 for. For 12 years.

[A]

No, that's not true.

[B]

12 times 365 is 4380. That would be if you did drag every single day for 12 years.

[A]

And then, son, I've done at least. So let's say half the years. I've done at least. At least 180 days a year for the path.

[B]

You think you do drag three times

[A]

a week Back in New York, I was. Yes, I was. I was doing drag six times a week.

[B]

But how long was that? How many.

[A]

That was three years. I did that.

[B]

So three times it would be. 365 divided by two is 547.

[A]

Wait, what? Wait, why divided by two?

[B]

Because I did 365. So three times 365 equals. Divided by two is. That is 547 times.

[A]

Why are you dividing it by two?

[B]

Because I'm doing it by I'm doing the whole year. And then you say you did it half of the day. So I divided in half because I don't know what 365 and a half is. Bitch, you did drag. You said if you did drag for three.

[A]

Okay, wait. Okay. Stop talking for a second. I just need to think about it without you saying anything for a second. Let me just drag it crazy. And then y' all all does the thing where you're like, he doesn't bitch. The bitch isn't helping. Give me a second.

[B]

Okay, I'm sorry. I apologize. Can I say it nicer, please?

[A]

Yes. Okay, go ahead.

[B]

All right, so if you do drag every day for 365 days, and then that's. I saw I did three times 365. And you said I did at least half of the days, so I divided it in half.

[A]

Mm.

[B]

So are you with me? Yeah. You're lying. Anyway, so we have five. We have 547 now. Do you think you do drag three

[A]

times a week now, average throughout the year? Yes.

[B]

How many times you done it this week?

[A]

Um, I Just got. I was in drag twice this past week.

[B]

This past week? Yeah.

[A]

Well, and the week before that. I was in it six times.

[B]

How about the week before that?

[A]

The week. Why are you trying to see. Also, I don't like when he gets gunty, y'. All. When he does something like. Well, what about if we're not. I don't like that. Don't fucking do that at me, bitch.

[B]

I just try to get to the bottom of this here. That's all I'm trying to do. I'm trying to get to the bottom of this.

[A]

Well, even for that, as a count, I was on vacation. I was in Belize.

[B]

Okay. So, okay, 2,000 times. Anyway. So you've done your makeup 2,000 times at least.

[A]

Okay. On the conservative side, I'm going to say 1500 times.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

I'm not trying to get you to change your answer. I was just trying to crunch the numbers myself.

[A]

How many times do you think you've been in drag?

[B]

I've been in drag for 15 years and I've probably done my makeup maybe 2,500 times.

[A]

So you think those five years, those, those three years gave you 500 more times than me.

[B]

So I did drag for seven years in New York City and I was doing drag. I was doing eight shows a week. Now, granted, it was. It was over the course of five days.

[A]

Right. I'm about to say so.

[B]

So five times four equals. Times 12 equals. That's two about it in half. No, times seven years in New York City. I'm already at 16, 80 already. And I haven't even gone on Drag Race yet. Honey,

[A]

put your fucking heads out. So, so what I was saying was like, the majority of the girls get partnered with some with a similar complexion to them. Like Jane is with Nick, who. They're both white. Sapphira is with Mark. I mean, Mark is a lighter, lighter skinned black person, but you know. And then Morphine is with Miguel, who is. There are similar, similar hues. So I find painting someone else who's a similar color to me is easier. That's why I painted Patti so fucking white, because he's fucking. Patty is pale. So I had never painted someone white before. It just, it was just. It was hard.

[B]

That was your first time ever painting someone white ever?

[A]

Well, no, I painted Tyler the last. Not Tyler, was it? No. Who's my person? Season 10.

[B]

Ty was your first one?

[A]

His name is Tyler.

[B]

Not Tyler. Tyler Oakley on season five.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Tyler the first was the first white person I ever painted before. Oh, yeah. But you Would Bob would put, like, his, like, drag kids and stuff in drag. I ain't had no drag kids. I ain't paying nobody before that.

[B]

I put people in drag, but not a lot. I would just, like, show them things. I wasn't like, any streets. Like, Paint with Mommy time. I was really showing my drag quiz more about, like, how to get gigs and how to work and how to make mixes and how to, like, have a name in nightlife and kind of.

[A]

And how to steal.

[B]

How to. How to scam.

[A]

Scam.

[B]

So. So all the girls are paired up, and they honestly all seem really happy with their choices. I don't know why Morphine is so happy to have this big muscle man. I honestly. And it ended up being part, I think, a part of her downfall because she doesn't seem to know how to put drag on that kind of body. But as they're preparing, Jane and her guys seem like a really good match. They seem to have a lot in common. They seem to be getting along really well. Morphine and Miguel also seem to be a good pair based on their personalities. They seem to get along very well, too. And then Nymphia got paired with a straight guy. And honestly, I would have hated. Hated that.

[A]

That normally works out on dra. So think about, like, Crack, Miss Cracker and Cookie like that, like the straight guys normally. Ms. Was Ms. Cracker's makeover on season 10. He was the influencer, short Latinx guy.

[B]

And Winter Green.

[A]

Also Wintergreen.

[B]

They were all straight, though. With Wintergreen, all the crew were straight.

[A]

No, not Rizzo, but most of them were straight.

[B]

Like, it was. It was the crew. It wasn't like.

[A]

Oh, oh, so you think that. So you think that queer people can't work behind the camera?

[B]

We can, but I think those guys were mostly straight, though. I think that camera crews are overwhelmingly straight men, and that's just statistical.

[A]

What, did you take a statistics course? How the hell you know?

[B]

Well, it's based on all the cameras, all the sets I've been on. Most of the guys who are at the camera, most of the crew's always straight men or lesbians. Very. There. There aren't zero gay guys, but there's very few.

[A]

Well, yes. So Deniffia has a married straight guy, but in Drag Race, though. But here, though, Bob, in the context of Drag Race, sometimes that works better because it's more of a transformation. Like with cookie and cracker, RuPaul was obsessed with how, like, Femi and, like, this, like, straight dude. How, like, feminine and how girly he was RuPaul loved. And I think that's what pushed Cracker ahead, because, yes, it was a good makeover, but he was also. He got. He got hyper femme when he transformed, which I think RuPaul likes. And then Morphine just spending the entire time admiring how hot her partner is.

[B]

Like, she can't even got turned. I forgot how much Cracker ate this.

[A]

She did.

[B]

Did Cracker win this challenge? I think so, because if not, she should have, because this is a. I think she won.

[A]

Yeah, I think Cracker won, and she

[B]

really ate that bitch.

[A]

Crack. Crackers. Crackers win. Crackers. Fucking triumph was my downfall. Okay, but you.

[B]

But you came back and had a great run on All Stars. You both had a great run. You actually both had great runs on All Stars when you came back. Both of you.

[A]

Yeah, but PJ is concerned about how masculine and beefy her guy is, and he's not even the masculine and beefiest of them all, but PJ's concerned about that. And to your point, like you said earlier, rightfully so, like, you're trying to feminize this person. When you got somebody that got traps up to here, their lats are fucking wider than your back. Like, it's hard to make that look to soften that up, girl.

[B]

I think the beefiest guy was with Q. And Q did not seem concerned at all. And also with good reason. She. She masked his big muscly body so well. I forgot how muscly he was until he took off his coat in untucked. I was like, oh, I forgot. This guy was like a full on wrestler. But also, apparently Q and Sapphira's drag daughters are frank frenemies. They are like, frenemies who, like, know each other and, like, are very competitive, which I love. The, like, the shade that. All that. That especially, I think Q's daughter, the one really throwing a lot of shade in the. In the work room.

[A]

I think it's really funny at Morphine. Morphine. I forgot what the joke was. She said something about the top, and he's like, oh, you mean a place

[B]

somewhere you never been?

[A]

I was like,

[B]

I've also noticed, first of all, RuPaul will change your drag name. RuPaul will advocate for you to change your drag name if it's the last thing she does. I mean, you know, I didn't feel particularly strong about Shakira or Sequoia. No. What was the original name?

[A]

Oh, I don't remember. Oh, it was Chris Hyacinth.

[B]

Hyacinth. And you can call her Cynthia. And RuPaul's like, I didn't like that.

[A]

That is Bob, to your point, that's like a Maya Iman le'. Paige. No one knows how to fucking. I don't know how to spell hyacinth.

[B]

I. I don't either. And the thing about Maya's name is the reason why I say my name is hard to search whenever I look for my. I can't find her on Internet because I can't spell her name. Because you think how you've always been taught to spell Maya.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

M, A, Y, A. And you have to. You have to really retrain your mind to, you know. And then also names like dawn, like, baby, you're never gonna be. I mean, you might be the most searched, dawn, but there's so much. There's soap. You're not gonna outdo the soap. You might, you might, you might. But it's going to be a uphill battle trying to outdo the soap mama. So maybe, maybe when you're thinking of your Q. Q, how do you. You just search Q? Drag again, I don't know.

[A]

Let me try to search. Let me see if I type in Q. I think we did this before, but I haven't. We haven't done it since the season started. I'm gonna try type Q in my search.

[B]

I type in Q drag and it does show her. Instagram.

[A]

Oh, no. I mean, when I type Q, she's the fourth one down. First is Aja. Why does Aja come first when I type Q? Q. Weird.

[B]

When I type Q into Google. I mean, Google, first thing I get is. First thing I get is Q. Food Mart here in Atlanta, Georgia. Then Q Time Restaurant. And then there's a musician named Q. And then there's live Q. Or. Yeah, Q is way at the bottom. There's an app called Q. There's an app called Q Dance.

[A]

Okay, Bob, you can't just type Q. You have to put more than that. Just Q.

[B]

Well, you could type in. If I type in Monet, you pop up. If I type in Monet, you may not. I don't know if you're the first. And then my search engine will probably be biased. Okay, Claude Monet is the first Monet that shows up. But as I keep scrolling, there's more Claude Monet. But as I keep scrolling, there's more Claude Monet.

[A]

You're such a fucking bitch.

[B]

And that's what's important.

[A]

Why typing Q And the fourth, the fifth after Q is Bob. I don't know why why does Bob come on to type in Q? Drag queen, Maybe.

[B]

Now, when I put up Monet with an accent. When I put Monet with an accent, you are the first image.

[A]

Oh, I still have that wig. I should wear that wig. That wig is right there.

[B]

Now, the rest of them are all Victoria Monet, but you are the very first one. When I type in Monet, Nigga.

[A]

When I type in. Let me type in Bob. Let me see what happens when I type in Bob.

[B]

Bob Gag.

[A]

Okay. No, the first thing that comes in is. What's your name? B. O. B. Instead of calling you Bob. Stop playing, nigga. You know that I'm known for the Bob. And then do you know who comes in my images? Bob the Builder.

[B]

But try. But try Bob the. But also, my name's not just Bob. Her name is Q. We've had this conversation before. There's no reason to rehash it. So also, I gotta say, Lazy Susan is a great drag name.

[A]

I think it's very good, too.

[B]

Plain Jane and Lazy Susan.

[A]

That is. That. That is. That is good.

[B]

Was hilarious. I don't know if it was. If I would have laughed as hard as RuPaul did, but I did think it was a very, very good name. And it was very funny.

[A]

I think it was. I think that's. That's a good one. Athlete is little walkthroughs. Wait, do you have another walkthrough thing?

[B]

No, no.

[A]

Q's partner, Sebastian, he walks better in heels than Q. Oh.

[B]

Then half the girls in the competition.

[A]

Yeah, he's really good at heels. Like, you could tell he be up in Roxxxy Andrews and Plastiques Root Louboutins going, ham girl.

[B]

That's Alfredo.

[A]

Gas does Alfredo.

[B]

But Alfredo's a little. Alfredo's not great in heels, but Alfredo is my drag daughter. And before she did drag, Alfredo used to just put on all our dresses. Alfredo used to love. Cause Alfredo's like, roughly me, and Monet's roughly closer to my size than Monae size. Yeah, but. But would just come to our homes, put on our dresses, our costumes, and just take pictures. And now she's making outfits better than I could ever make, quite frankly. Really think so. Alfredo is very good. Much better than I am. In fact, I taught Alfredo how to sew, but then Alfredo went and learned how to sew for real. And it's just, like, light years. It's so, so good.

[A]

Alfredo posted something so cute the other day. Free the Drag Queen, y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Free the Drag Queen on Instagram. And then him and Joel went to a thing, and in the caption, it said, with my forever plus one. That's so cute. I love that they're so cute.

[B]

So anyway, child.

[A]

Anyway.

[B]

So. So Sapphira ends up. When they go to dance, when they go to, like, do their little dance together, Sapphira's like, I can't dance in this big Geo dress. When they stop making fun of me, Sapphira's like, I can't dance in this big gio dress. So I'm going to change. Did you clock the outfit she's wearing? That's Maya Iman's entrance outfit.

[A]

Maya Iman's entrance outfit.

[B]

The outfit that Sapphira went down the Runway in is Maya's entrance outfit.

[A]

Oh, shit. And then her partner was wearing pj.

[B]

But I'm also wondering, is playing Jane secretly the Miss Congeniality? Because she has lent out a lot,

[A]

a lot of stuff.

[B]

Of drags, and is she lending it out because she's not intimidated by these girls? But also, when she lends stuff out, it doesn't always do the cause she gave. She gave plasma. The wig that sent her home. She lent Sapphira the wig. The outfit that got her put in the bottom two.

[A]

Oh, my God. That's Maya's entrance look.

[B]

The orange thing with the big feathers. And to be honest, I didn't care for her much when Maya wore it, and I don't really care for her much when Sapphira had it on either.

[A]

I wonder what Sapphira. So I guess the outfits she bought for the makeover were just too cumbersome. But why would you. When I did the makeover, I bought two outfits just in case. I bought a big, crazy one, and I bought something a little more simple. Like, why? I guess she only came with one option.

[B]

I mean, when I was on Drag Race, we had to make them there. Like, part of it was, you have to sew these outfits. You can't bring them from home. Which, honestly, I think we should get back to, quite frankly.

[A]

I agree. I'm not opposed to that. But then, you know me. Then there's another design challenge. I'm not a strong design. I'm not a fucking style song strong seamstress. What they need to do is, like, Project Runway, okay? We sketch out the thing we want to do. We cut out the patterns, and we have stitchers coming overnight and make our outfits. I think that's what should be done. I feel that that, like, that's fair.

[B]

I disagree. I don't think that's Interesting. And I think that you. That people get to shine when they. When they are. When they can sew. So if everyone has the same level of sewing skill because we're all using the same people, I don't think that is as interesting as. As. And also, that's not what Project Runway does. That's what the Cut. Making the Cut did. Project Runway, they sold their own outfits.

[A]

No, I've heard different things. Well, I heard after, like, after Heidi Klum was on, they started having stitchers.

[B]

No, no. Heidi Klum and Tim Gunn started a new show called Making the Cut on Amazon, and on that show, because Heidi Klum and Tim Gunn left Project Runway. So when Heidi Quinn and Tim Gunn went to their new show called Making the Cut for Amazon, that is when they start. When they. When they stopped selling their own outfits.

[A]

That's what I'm hearing on Project Runway. When they left, they started doing stitchers on Project Runway.

[B]

Oh, all right. I don't know anyone from. From post. From post. Heidi Clum.

[A]

But I.

[B]

But I know that the. The. The folks who were there before were like, no, we made our outfits. We were sewing, but I think that they should. I think we should be sewing.

[A]

It's.

[C]

It's.

[B]

It's a design and construction. It's. It's a design and a construction challenge.

[A]

Okay. I think for All Star seasons, they should have that for the regular season.

[B]

No, I disagree again, because this is

[A]

the season that I'm on. They should have that.

[B]

Okay. Are you going back?

[A]

No, but I'm saying if I said that last time. That's not true. I did not say that. The All Stars 4.

[B]

No, you said after All Stars 4.

[A]

No, after all Stars. I did not say I'm never going back after when I did All Stars 4.

[B]

So you're saying right now on the podcast, you are never going back to Drag Race ever.

[A]

The only way I'm going back to Drag Race is if the competition is to host a show. Huh?

[B]

Y' all heard that?

[A]

Why you.

[B]

Timestamp. Timestamp, baby. Timestamp.

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[B]

I mean, I've heard people wrap their genitals in paper towels and then from. To protect it from the tape, you wrap it in paper towels and then you tape it back because you're trying to protect your genitals from the tape.

[A]

But when it rip. But then it's so sliding, then it will slip off.

[B]

No, because it's still taped to your pelvis and it's still taped to your ass crack. It's just not taped on top of your genitals.

[A]

And it's the people who tape these people must shave, right? Like, how do you tape if you have a hairy bush?

[B]

I mean, I imagine you should. I've only taped like a few times in my life, and it really is not the life for me. It's. It's so messy. It's so cumbersome. It is. It's so much upkeep. It is so much work. And I also, I'm not going legless. The only reason you really need to be in this street taping is if you're planning on showing your actual skin up to like above your, your, your, your hip bone, in my honest opinion. Otherwise, why are you in these streets taping for a catsuit when you can literally just put on a gaff and get the exact same effect.

[A]

Yeah, I would agree. I think. But sometimes I've. I've worn gaffes and I. And there'd be a little spillage, girl. Like, I did Fashion Week this year, and I thought I was living my best. I always wear a gaff or a tucking panty. And bitch, someone took a picture of me. There is a. Oh, my God. Someone's gonna search for it. It's gonna be out there. There's a getty image of me posing. When I tell you, ball out. And it's always my left testicle. My left testicle is always roaming around my left. And I think I am serving. I mean, this beautiful. I'm not gonna say the designer. Cause then I'm gonna narrow it down. When this beautiful thing. I'm posing and I saw the getting images. My left ball is just out the side of my fucking thigh, between my thigh. And it is disgusting.

[B]

I mean, I've seen some spillage with taping too, like that. I don't think tape is not some guarantee that you won't have spillage for any reason. Yeah, but. But you know what I do is I don't tuck anymore. Like, I don't wear things that require me to talk anymore. I'm not. I'm not in these streets. I'm no longer in these leotard streets. I'm no longer in these fucking tight catsuit streets. My. My drag has aged with me. And honestly, we're both quite happy where we are, to be honest.

[A]

So you don't think you're ever going to wear this ever again?

[B]

Maybe one day. But I also feel like, even with a leotard, unless between the padding, the way that I tuck now with, like a tight pair of underwear, you still. You don't need all that extra. I don't need it anyway.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

Not. Not eyes at the rooster.

[A]

Also weird. I wrote that down, too, in order. About Sapphira scrapping her look and mixing. But I'm gagged about Maya's look, I guess. What? When Maya left, she asked Maya, I think Sapphira was anticipating the makeover challenge. She was like, girl, let me hold that just in case. Cause Maya left like three episodes ago.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, so during. When Jane's daughter was talking about staying in the closet forever, I was like, girl, I feel like a lot of us have been there where you closet it, and you're like, I'm just going to be in the closet for my life and I'll just die. That's my. That's that's the current plan of action. What y'. All. What y' all going to do? What's y' all playing? You know, I mean, you can't even check in with people because you're the only one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know?

[A]

Yeah. And. But also, he also speaks a lot to, like, you being so scared because when you're in the closet, it feels so lonely. You feel like no one else understands, you think. And for some people, it is like no one does understand. For some people, your family does not accept you. But he's kind of like me, right? He was so afraid to tell his family, but when he did, you realize the family's like, oh, hey, girl. As opposed to shunning you and exiling you and ostracizing you. But that's so hard to know until you fucking do it.

[B]

Well, you're projecting your own fears onto other people as opposed to letting them tell you what's up. So let's go on to the looks. I want to say the judges panel looks amazing. Every single one of them. Every look. I love this country girl. I love T.S. madison. I love, love RuPaul. I love Michelle's looks. They all genuinely look amazing.

[A]

I love. Maddie is being so, so coy with her pose. Kelsey Ballerini, she's a. She's a country singer.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

So let's go on to Q. You know, the Internet seemed really kind of upset about these clown faces. I'm like, did y' all forget that, like, not every drag queen is, like, in these streets trying to, like, be. Be like, I'm the cuntiest woman in the world? Like, there's lots of club, and I feel like there's been kind of a interesting shift on, like, alternative drag lately that I don't personally vibe with. That being said, I like these looks. I think they look really good. This kind of reminds me of Crystal Method when they did the Burton. When she did the Burton, Ernie look with her partner. I think they both look good. I think that she did a really good job at masking his body. I mean, that neck, he still has a neck like a pit bull. I mean, his neck is the same size as his head, so that she can't mask. But at least you got someone who could really walk in heels, which I, you know, most certainly appreciate it. I think that this looks like a. It looks like maybe some pop art inspired moment, but I really enjoy this. What is this?

[A]

I definitely like hers.

[B]

Translate that. I can't. I don't even know what this says.

[A]

What do you.

[B]

What is in Spanish? I can't even read. Queen. Who's calling her out for copying her makeup look?

[A]

Oh, shit. Okay, so the Queen is jugacillo cru. Gente. And they said, en plan que a mi esto no me molesta ni nucho menos y puede haber sido coincidencia. Pero no estoy loca. No. Like, I'm not crazy. Like, oh, is this a coincidence, or am I crazy?

[B]

She's from Gregory, Spain, I believe. Here we go. Listen, I didn't invent makeup, but isn't Q's makeover literally my face? I'm not bothered in the slightest, and it could have been a coincidence, but I'm not crazy.

[A]

Right. I was right about that. You know, Ha ha ha ha. Is lollo L O, L?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, it's the same makeup.

[B]

I feel like I've seen people do this before, but I also. Maybe they all got their makeup from who? Gacia. So I don't know.

[A]

Maybe Jacob, can you please screenshot this to make sure Jay puts this in?

[B]

Maybe Hugassia CEO. Well, they get Jacob screen on here. Actually, they have been Jacob screen, but they could, but not. Yeah, but I've seen people do that makeup before, so I don't. I don't know how unique that is to that Queen, but may. But. But there is a chance that Q saw her on Drag Race and was like, love this.

[A]

Oh, she was on Drag Race Spain.

[B]

Drag Race. Pain.

[A]

Got it. Yeah. I like Q's outfit more. I like the coat, and because I think it's a mouth and, like, the thing supposed to be a tongue. I like cues way more. I mean, I get why she wear the. Why the makeovers were in the other thing, because, you know, that can fit on multiple body types, and it. And it be and look great. So, you know, it's. It's. It's. It's less of a gamble, but I just like Q's look more than this other one.

[B]

Let's go on to morphine and Latina love Dion. You know, I agree with the critiques. These look. These dresses are. They're plain. These are plain dresses. And especially for drag and for Drag Race. And I do think that Latina. I mean, there's nothing wrong with a big, buff lady if that's what you're going for. It didn't seem like that's what they were going for. It seemed like it's what they ended up with to me.

[A]

Interesting. I disagree. I think how. How you can look at this and say it's plain and not called plain Jane. Who wins the challenge? The same. Like, they're both wearing plane Jane. And Morphine's looks are, to me, on the same level. And just because this one is a little more buff, I don't think that takes away the family resemblance in the face. They look exactly alike. Morphine and her makeover in the face look alike.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

This person is a tall, buffer dude, but she padded the body. Right. Their proportions are similar. I didn't understand. I think that, yes, this is a simple dress, but that's. The challenge is not who has the most extravagant look look. It's who can pull off a family resemblance by this random person that you don't know. And I think Morphine did a great job.

[B]

Well, I certainly have not compared this look to plain Janes. So you're like, how could you call planes?

[A]

Well, not you. I'm talking about. I'm talking about the judges. Yeah.

[B]

But, you know, I feel like. Like what it is about this dress is this dress does not excite me in any way, shape, form, or fashion, particularly Latino's dress. If I saw her in this dress in the club, I would not. I literally wouldn't care. I wouldn't. I wouldn't even think twice. I wouldn't think it was nice. I wouldn't think it was bad. I would not care that this dress even existed in the same room as me. It would get no attention from me. And I do think her hair could have been a little bit bigger, especially because she is so much larger. And it feels like Morphine has the bigger hair, even though Latina is the larger person and has traps that could. She could crush a can between her ear and her shoulders by just shrugging. You know what I mean? And also, look how tiny her necklace is in that big pit bull neck. She has this tiny. The necklace looks so minuscule, and there's still so much decolletage going all the way down to the. The. The sweetheart shape of the. Of the garment. But I do agree the makeup looks really, really good. The makeup looks fantastic, even. And I also am. I'm a little bit annoyed by the. The nude illusion on both of them looks pretty bad, especially because, really, because Latinas is interrupted by the tattoo. So it's just like all of a sudden, your tattoo just stops right at your shoulder, which is something that there's no way that Morphine could have possibly known she would end up with someone with. With arm tattoos. There's no way she could have even known what skin Color, the person would have been, quite frankly, interesting. Should we go on?

[A]

Let's. Let's go on to Nymphia Wynn. Nymphia and her partner. I think that these are great. I think so. Nymphia looks like she's doing some type of big bird illusion with, like, the orange legs and the yellow feathers. And then I was like, is her partner supposed to be some other Sesame street character that I'm not getting?

[B]

But no, I don't think she is big bird. I think she just is a bird and happens to have the big bird legs. Because her. Can her beak look like a. Almost like a toucan or something?

[A]

She has a beak. What beak?

[B]

They were holding beaks in their hands. They both had beaks on sticks. Did you watch the episode?

[A]

I don't remember that. Did I black out?

[B]

They kept holding the beaks up over and over again. They had these beaks that were on sticks. Each of them.

[A]

Girl, I missed that.

[B]

Oh, well, they did.

[A]

But I think that her make. I think that her makeover looks good. I think the proportions of Nymphia's looks better in this dress to me, and I didn't love the purple one, but I do think that it was a successful makeover. I think that the makeup. The makeup is not great. That eye looks a little crazy. The makeup is not fabulous, but I think it's fine enough to. To. To. To be safe and to be not in the bottom.

[B]

This is probably my favorite look of the evening, if I'm being honest. I really like this look. I think it looks great. I think that their family resemblance is good without being like, literally, we're doing the same thing. I think wearing the same. Same outfit is a. Is a. Is a kind of a cop out, as opposed to having outfits that are in the same vein that. That is more interesting to me. And these are in the same vein. They like, they're from the same collection. It looks like two drag queens from the same family went out together on a theme, as opposed to. We're literally trying to be twins. This is probably my favorite look of the evening, to be honest. But If I'm being 100 honest, none of these looks are killer. None of these looks are going to go down in history. So when I say my favorite look, I'm not giving it that much oomph. If I'm being fully honest with you.

[A]

I think Nymphy looks really good compared to a makeover. Like, and, like, to your point, like, he's wearing a tiny. He had these big ass fucking. Fucking Pecs, these big ass shoulders and arms. And this just is half the size of Morphine's guy's necklace. He's literally wearing a choker, and he looked like he's getting choked out, but

[B]

so much of his decolletage is covered because the feathers come up pretty high. Know what I mean? I just. I just. I just. I just like this one. Also, the judges finally said something about her wearing yellow, like, after all these. And by the way, the fans are always trying to cook us. Like, guys, all we're saying is that Nymphia is wedging bananas into. Not just. It's not just the Runway. Y. Like, but she only wore it on the Runway twice. It's not. She's wedging it into every challenge. Even if it cost her the challenge. She. She did Jane Goodall just so she could talk about bananas. She's writing it into every verse. So, guys, don't act like. Don't try to gaslight us. Act like we're crazy for noticing that she's wedging bananas into every single challenge, every aspect, every outfit, even when she's just rehearsing, even when she's just talking to the camera. It's bananas, bananas, bananas, bananas, bananas. There's nothing wrong with doing that. But. But don't act like we're crazy for pointing it out, because I feel like a couple of seasons ago when Monet mentioned sponges three times or Monique wore a cow print halfway through the season, and then y', all, like, we're sick of the brown cow. And I'm just saying that Monet and Monique have something in common that I feel gains you a lot of criticism in the world of drag. And. And when someone levies that same criticism against someone who doesn't have that same thing that Monet and Monique have in common, y' all be getting real itchy about it. So just clock that T. I can't

[A]

believe he's sticking up for me. Von.

[B]

Bitch, shut the hell up. Let's go. Go to the next few.

[A]

Can I. Can I acknowledge you? And can I say thank you to my friends sticking up for me? That's very sweet.

[B]

See this? I was sticking up for Monat.

[A]

I bet. Let's go on to Sapphire, Cristal. Which girl?

[B]

Disaster girl.

[A]

A dumpster fire. This was absolutely horrible. The styling of this is crazy.

[B]

This.

[A]

This is, first of all, Sapphire in these shoes. God bless her. These shoes. Sapphira, Andy. Shoes have got to get it together. I cannot.

[B]

This shoe and this dress combination makes her look, like taller than tiaras. And the hair.

[A]

The hair, which I love the hair by itself. I kind of want that hair. I want that wig, the color, the

[B]

neck up, she looks perfect. Yeah, but for the. Forever. But for the neck down, which was the challenge, it's not giving. And this is. And also, I don't know why she chose that blue. Why she chose the blue.

[A]

Oh, a petticoat to go underneath. Yeah, there's. I guess she didn't have any because she didn't have anything else. That was the only. That was her only option. That had to have been it.

[B]

Also, the gloves are not great. And they both look jacked. They both look like they're the pit crew dancers. I don't know who's the pit crew and who's the drag queen.

[A]

This was bad. Bad.

[B]

You know, I don't think that the drag daughter looks bad, but those shoes don't match at all. Like a silver shoe with an orange dress, and then you in a black shoe with an orange dress. The hair looks cute. They both have cute hair. And I think she did pretty decent on. On. On his face, but it's a no for me, dog.

[A]

Yeah, his body looks good, though. Mark's body looks really good. But. Yeah, this is crazy. I don't know why she was. She really. And she was really going on about these gloves. She's like, I need these gloves. These gloves are going to really sell the. Sell the fan. The gloves. Did Sephiroth's little. Those little fucking gloves look crazy? These little gloves that stop here. Look, you're not a serial killer. What are you doing?

[B]

Well, she looks like an usher, a deacon usher at the church or praise dancer. Do y' all have praise dancing at your church?

[A]

Of course, girl. Praise is what I do.

[B]

She looks like a praise dance.

[A]

One of these girls.

[B]

Yes. Let's go on to the winner of this week's challenge. Playing Jane. First of all, Lazy Susan looks like Elliot with two T's. Did anyone else clock that?

[A]

No, not la with two T's, girl.

[B]

That's what I was seeing. I just don't like that. These are literally the same outfit. I hate that. I hate. So lazy.

[A]

I agree. And it was too simple. I feel like this is like at least morphine were different colors and there was some variation. This was the exact same outfit from head to toe. I mean, yes. The color of the hair.

[B]

Well, not head to toe. I mean, let's not get crazy.

[A]

The club. The hair was different, but Bob did nothing else.

[B]

And the shoes were also different.

[A]

Well, that's because this Bitch.

[B]

But yes, the outfits are the same. Yes.

[A]

Like, I am gagged that she was. That's the thing, like praising Plane Jane so much and coming from Morphine to me, that's crazy. That's crazy. In this. In this. In this. In this reality. Yeah.

[B]

I think this. I think these are really plain because you're judging for two things. First thing you're judging for is family resemblance. And after that, once you get the family resemblance down, you got to find out, is it a nice outfit? So I will say this. Yes, there is family resemblance. This is not a nice outfit. And I do like the wigs. The wigs are nice.

[A]

The wigs are actually.

[B]

I actually really like these wigs. Even. Even out of a context of the seeing two of them, which seeing two of them really highlights how unattractive this garment is. Something about seeing two of them side by side. You're like, wow, this is a really piece. But even if it was just one, like, these leg garters are kind of in a weird spot where they go up. Or maybe if they. Maybe if instead of stopping just like that, they went up to a point and they attach to the leotard. That could maybe help. I just don't. She looks like a. Like a. Like a superhero, but in a bad way. I do not like these outfits.

[A]

I don't like these outfits either. Like, I think that if I had to choose a top two, a top, A win, it would have been Q for me. Like, Q's was creative. They were different. They were. She. She made her guy look. Although her guy, because his neck is so big, he looks. It looks like a drag queen. It looks like an evil super villain drag queen and her. And her fucking henchman. He doesn't look like a woman.

[B]

Okay, Q versus Nymphia. My top two are Q and Nymphia, and I'm going to give it to Nymphia. But honestly, if Q would have won, I would have been like, yeah, that makes. If Q or Nymphia would have won, I would have been like, yeah, of course. That. That makes sense to me. Either one of them could have won, and I would have been like, that makes sense. I think they got the bottom two wrong. Okay. I think that playing Jane and Morphine could have easily been swapped out for one another. But I do think that. But maybe just because. Because Jane did have the most slight dancer of. Of the. Of the four of the five.

[A]

So she had the most slight dancer.

[B]

What do you mean slight? He's like the. The. The. The most dainty of the dancers.

[A]

Oh, I never heard that expression.

[B]

Slight, slight. Yeah. And I do think that Morphine had, like, the second most buff dancer, so I. I can't tell. But that's not the point. The point is, women come in all shapes and sizes, obviously. But what I'm trying to get at is I could have swapped morphine or Plain Jane out for the bottom and it would have easily made sense to me.

[A]

Easily. Yeah. But then the show cannot put morphine. I mean, Plane Jane versus. Cause I would have, honestly, I don't know. You're right. Plane Jane and Morphine could have been swapped out. Sapphire absolutely was the worst one there. And the next could have been either Plane Jane and Morphine to me. But Plane Jane winning is crazy. Like, that's crazy. And it really upsets me. The Plane Jane is not a woman.

[B]

Plane Jane getting sent home by Sapphira would have been fierce tv because it's like the hero and the antihero going head to head.

[A]

But have been fierce, you know? Yeah, I'm geeked. But that being said, the winner of this show is playing Jane. It brings her to four wins and it leaves Sapphira. Oh, TS Madison tweeted something. I wanted to read it. Apparently the dragon spans are coming at her.

[B]

By what?

[A]

I don't know. I saw it and I.

[B]

She also shares her tweets on. She shares her tweets on Instagram as screen grabs too. So it might be there.

[A]

Let me look.

[B]

I'm in Atlanta. You want me to drive over to her house?

[A]

Oh, my God. I love Maddie so much. I don't see it. I think she may have deleted it. I. I definitely read it.

[B]

Last thing I see, she tweeted on Instagram was about Cowboy Carter. Well, while you look for that, I want to talk about something I saw that was really gaggy. So during the judging, Sapphira. I feel like Safira's dragged her through under the bus. She said, I know it's not going to be perfect, but it's going to be fun. I was like, damn, that is a read. And then Sa says something really straight. I don't know if this is a saying I've never heard. It is what it is. Diana Ross was Dorothy in the Wiz.

[A]

I never heard that. I don't know what the that means.

[B]

Did you hear her say that?

[A]

I did hear her, but I didn't. I. I was she. She from Texas.

[B]

Anyone? She goes, it is what it is. Danna Ross is Dorothy in the Wiz. Is that because Dana Ross was too Old to play that role. And Dorothy supposed to be 16. Dana Ross is, like, in her 40s. Is that what it is?

[A]

Maybe. That sounds like some country. That's. That's what y' all be seeing in the country.

[B]

Okay, Saphir is not from the country.

[A]

She is. She's from Texas.

[B]

Texas is not. Texas is not the South.

[A]

Oh. She said, okay. I asked people from Texas this, and they said, bob does know.

[B]

Only people from Texas say Texas is the South. Everyone from the South. Everyone from the south who's not from Texas will tell you that Texas is not the South. And I'm telling you, anyone from Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina, Arkansas, Kentucky. Anyone from another place will tell you Texas is not the South. Texas is Texas. People from Texas think they're in the south best. They don't know any better because they're from Texas.

[A]

Well, y' all all hashed out. This is what Maddie said. Listen, drag race family. You mean you. Listen, drag race family. You may not have liked my critique last night, and it's okay. I get to see girls throughout the season and not every challenge. I truly enjoy watching the girls become stars and launching themselves into a life of super stardom. Next paragraph. But you motherfucking Stans that think you can aggressively handle me better, do some extensive research.

[B]

I will fuck you up on any

[A]

given day and whoop your ass live. Play with your drag. Not me. I'm not RuPaul. I'm her hood daughter. Everybody say love.

[B]

Ross Matthews could never. I think Michelle massage.

[A]

I don't know what happened.

[B]

I don't know. Michelle Visage might.

[A]

Yeah, she might. But what could have happened? Like, what? I don't recall her saying anything. A critique that felt like. I don't know where that came from.

[B]

I feel like you and I say stuff that's not that inflammatory, too. But then people who are big fans of those people, like, we were just like, wow, Nymphia wears yellow a lot. Fuck you, bitch. You fucking ugly, fat, black bitch. Fuck you, old bitch. You fucking bitch.

[A]

I got yellow a lot. I got. I got. You're a stupid monkey nigga. DM the other day, and I was like, you know what? It's been a few weeks.

[B]

Wait, what? What? I seen you.

[A]

Not you.

[B]

I was like, sorry, was I on Ambien? What the. What the. It looks like most of the response Maddie got was from her critique for Nymphia about constantly wearing yellow. And. And, like, she doesn't wear yellow. Look how I called it. Look how I called it. Y' All. Listen, Nymphia fans, y' all are being weird. I'm gonna call it right now. She does wear yellow a lot, and she does talk about bananas a lot, and we're just pointing out that she does it. And y' all are being weird by acting like we're crazy for just saying damn. Has anyone noticed that Nymphia wears yellow a lot? And she.

[A]

Oh, come on, Bob. Come on.

[B]

And she talks about bananas a lot.

[A]

Oh, my God, Bob, you're being racist.

[B]

Interesting. That's just interesting to me. Fucking. Fucking black bitch.

[A]

Yeah, I didn't say you call me a black monkey, nigga. I said I got one of those DMs by some random fan the other day, and it's been a while, so it felt like, wow, you guys still see me.

[B]

So what happened was the lip sync. We find out that plan Jane is the winner, and the bottom two are Morphine and Sapphire Castall.

[A]

I said that already. You're not even paying attention to me.

[B]

And they lip sync to a song by the guest called Miss Me More. I actually like that song. It was a good song. That's the thing. I can listen to country music, like, one song at a time. I'm not gonna go listen to her album, though. No shade. Kelsey.

[A]

I thought that this was a good lip sync. I think Morphine has proven she's a very good lip syncer. And I think Sapphira started the lip sync like she was. I was very excited about what Sapphira is doing, but then she did, like, the split into, like, the pussy slamming on the floor thing that we've kind of seen her do a few times. So that didn't really excite me. But at first, I thought her being so reserved was very exciting. And then. But there is no way, unless the fur did not know the words, would the judges send her home on his lip sync. Like, are you kidding me? The bitch has four wins. Morphine has zero. The only.

[B]

So now you believe in track records?

[A]

What?

[B]

So now you believe in track records?

[A]

I mean, this is not a lip sync for the. This is not. This is not a lip sync for the crown.

[B]

But we. But we had the same conversation about a lip sync for your life recently, and you were like, no issue right here on this very podcast. When it was. When it was Maya versus someone, she was against plasma. We had this. We had this exact same conversation on this very podcast about the same thing. And you were like, it should be about the lip sync. It shouldn't be about anything else. Just the lip sync. And it should. Everything else should be wiped clean when it comes to the lip sync. Well, now you believe in track records.

[A]

That's not. That's not. This is. This is a different story, Bob. Four wins versus zero is different.

[B]

So what you're saying is there isn't track records should come in.

[A]

But I think, I think. I think it's. It's not. It's not black and white. I think it's very gray. If it's two lip syncs versus one, that's different than someone with four lip sync versus zero. That is a different conversation.

[B]

Hmm. I'm just saying it's interesting because you were saying they should wipe the slate clean and she'd just be about the lip sync before.

[A]

I think if it's. If it's. If it's.

[B]

When.

[A]

It's. When it's a fairer battle. Right? If it's two versus one, that is different than someone who has won four episodes, never been in the bottom versus someone who has won zero episodes and has been in the bottom four times. That is. That is. That is this against this versus this, against this. That is.

[B]

It's just that you didn't say that. That's not. You didn't say that last time, so I didn't know there was a caveat.

[A]

There was. There was not this nuance, this new nuance to talk about it.

[B]

I just didn't know you had that caveat. You never, you never made that clear.

[A]

It's not a caveat, it's the nuance of the whole topic.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I didn't know you had the nuance.

[B]

I didn't know you had the nuance, nigga.

[A]

I didn't know you was nuanced.

[B]

And you sound nuanced in the lip sync. Sapphira wins, which I agree she should have won. I think she did a better job and I think it was just morphine's time to go home. Morphine can't just. Who is she? Cameron Michaels. You can't just keep lipstick until you get to the. To the fucking finale where you can kill bugs.

[A]

Listen, Cameron is having a very hard time with adhd. Lead Cameron out of this, ok?

[B]

He is.

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He posted about that.

[B]

Why literally not said a word since

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you said that, Bob, you said the word with everything I said you said. You reacted.

[B]

So with that in mind. With that in mind also, when she went out, she was like, now I'm going to pay for the second. My second bbl. What did she talk about before she got a bbl?

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Well, apparently I got the inside tea. The reason why it's such a big deal.

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Was she talking about getting a bbl.

[A]

Well, the reason why, because I had to admit, I was someone who was like, girl, you gotta bbl. And that's all you got. Like, baby, I want you to be coming out here and be like, wakakao. But apparently, Bitch Morphine was in the negative. She was in the red before she was in the red. That's why. Oh, that is bbl. I mean, it's bbl. I'm like, girl, when I hear bbl, I'm talking about, you know. But it's because it is much improved from what it was before.

[B]

Did you see?

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Did you.

[B]

Okay, are you at all following? Please tell me that you are following Mrs. Netta.

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Charles and Netta.

[B]

Charles and Ms. Netta.

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Girl, they're such an interesting people.

[B]

I'm. They're what?

[A]

Okay, where are you on the. Like, are you just finding out about them about, like, them?

[B]

I have known about Charles Ms. Netta since she was actually cooking. I knew about Charles Ms. Netta back when she was cooking. I don't think this lady has cooked a anything. Well, she doesn't identify as a woman. She just says, I'm just Ms. Netta. But she does use she and her pronouns. But I don't think she's cooked since. It's been a long time. I was there when she was going.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

So Now Charles and Ms. Netta went to. Okay, you know, we'll talk about this on. On the. On the vision, because I am. I'm going to get an interview with Charles and Ms. Netta. I'm obsessed with them, and they're just so interesting to me.

[A]

Well, that's the thing about social media. Social media has given us access to all these people and personalities that we never would have ever. It's just. It's just. It is such a wild hunt to be alive. Anyone with an Internet connection can be that, like. It's just. It's so crazy to think about.

[B]

Anyway, you remember this guy's right there. Ms. Gordon. This was someone in my every Tuesday named Ms. Gordon. And I'm like, Missetta kind of looks like Ms. Gordon, but she's younger than Ms. Gordon for sure, because that is like in her 40s, and I was in my 20s, and Ms. Gordon was in her, like, 50s. So Ms. Gordon is by now in her either 70s or. Or whatever. That's not the point. The point is, just so you guys know, full disclosure, I don't want to lie to y'. All this untucked was not it for me.

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It was.

[B]

So we're going to talk about a lot of other stuff in this. In this Patreon exclusive so you can get your money's worth, because this untucked was not it. No Shade.

[A]

I agree. So we're gonna say it. So, yes, Morphine goes home, and she's been in the bottom four times. You know what? I think Morphine gave a valiant effort. Morphine. Morphine has been very enjoyable to watch. She's so funny in the confessionals, and she's definitely gonna be one of the fan favorites this season. And I have enjoyed Morphine, and I can't wait to, like, meet and hang out with her and work with her in person.

[B]

Yeah, she was a great. She was a great contender. She had. She made for some great tv. She was really good in a lot of challenges. I think that her and dawn kind of suffered the same fate. They were. They were both good, but they just kept getting bested by someone else. Like, every time Morphine was shine, someone else just shined a little bit brighter. Every time dawn shined, someone else just shined a little bit brighter. You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

[B]

It's the Thor. It's the. It's the Thorgy. It's the Thorgy condition.

[A]

Damn. You will find a way to make 4G feel like shit.

[B]

Shout out to Tia. Coffee.

[A]

See y' all later.

[B]

Bye, everyone.

[A]

All right, y' all see on Patreon for the exclusive.

[C]

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