Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race S16E16 "Grand Finale" Review

Summary

Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race S16E16 "Grand Finale" Review

Podcast: Sibling Rivalry
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
Episode Release: April 24, 2024

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Episode Overview

This episode sees Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change, two of RuPaul's Drag Race's most celebrated queens, diving deep with their trademark wit and candor into the grand finale of Season 16. They do a comprehensive review of the finalists' performances, finale runway looks, Miss Congeniality, the show’s new production choices, and what sets this season apart from earlier competitions. Their banter swings from high fashion dissection to Drag Race lore – with, as always, plenty of memorable shade, laughs, and insider insight.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Immediate Reactions and Winner Announced

• Nymphia Wind is the first East Asian winner of RuPaul’s Drag Race, with the crown returning to NYC.
  • Monét: "Congratulations to Nymphia Wind – one win. Nymphia, one win." (05:10)
  • Bob: "Hi, I'm people. You know, Nymphia wins." (05:19)
• They discuss Drag Race name wordplay: “Winsing” Nymphia all season.

2. RuPaul Finale Production and Visuals

• RuPaul’s Look & Music Video: Highly praised for glamour and execution, though Monét admits she was fooled by the on-screen visual trickery.
  • Monét: “I am a RuPaul fan. I get excited by a RuPaul music video.” (05:40)
  • Bob: “The idea of RuPaul in a car is so silly to me. In full drag.” (07:08)
• Fashion nerd-out: Custom footwear, integrated Louboutins, and the struggle of drag queens getting in/out of cars in costume.
• RuPaul’s potential for a world tour compared to Madonna is debated.

3. Reviewing the Queens’ Finale Runway Looks

Bob and Monét deliver rapid-fire critiques of every queen's look, from technical construction to overall impact. (Timestamps: specific queens and moments below)

Standouts and Dish:

• Hershii LiqCour-Jeté: Nice dress, makeup lighter than body noted as distracting. (13:15)
• Mirage: Praised for her slick, oiled nude illusion and glitter detail. (14:10)
• Geneva Karr: Bob: “Geneva Carr will wear a hideous garment if it’s the last thing she does.” (16:00)
• Morphine Love Dion: Gorgeous makeup, but dress didn’t impress either queen. (24:23)
• Q & Plane Jane’s Gowns: Both delivered stunning looks with caveats about leotard reveals. (26:04, 27:01)
• Nymphia Wind: Banana look is praised, with callbacks to Manila Luzon’s pineapple theme. (28:23)
  • Monét: “She really turned this, this was fabulous.” (30:06)
• Sapphira Cristal: Opulent but overly restrictive finale look; neck-up praised. (30:27)
• Malaysia Babydoll Foxx: Read for an expensive but turkey-like feather look. (59:10)
  • Bob: "Y'all don't know how much money she paid to look this bad." (59:21)

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[TIMESTAMPS: Notable Looks & Comments]

• [13:15] Hershii LiqCour-Jeté
• [14:10] Mirage
• [16:00] Geneva Karr
• [16:34] Morphine Love Dion
• [26:04] Q
• [27:01] Plane Jane
• [28:23] Nymphia Wind
• [30:27] Sapphira Cristal
• [59:10] Malaysia Babydoll Foxx

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4. Finale Performances & Staging

• Bob and Monét love the new main stage and predict its continued use, applauding how it improves production and audience energy. (36:01)
• Performance Recaps:
  • Nymphia Wind: “Storm”/wind theme with impressive reveals. “She looked like Taiwanese storm.” (37:20)
  • Plane Jane: Concept and input into her song “Bodysuit” clarified; Jane chose it herself despite critiques from fans.
    • Bob: “Her [Plane Jane’s] ass padding is next level.” (39:37)
    • Jane's own Tweet quoted: “I decided on the concert myself after some brainstorming...” (42:17)
  • Sapphira Cristal: Universally praised; called it "one of my favorite, favorite, favorite finale solo performances I have ever seen.” (46:12)
    • Bob: “The way it's set up, when she had that giant gown with all those strings...so good...She used that whole stage.” (48:12)

[TIMESTAMPS: Finale Numbers]

• [34:27] Nymphia’s performance
• [39:37] Plane Jane
• [46:12] Sapphira Cristal

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5. Final Lip Sync: Nymphia vs. Sapphira (“Padam Padam”)

• Both queens had dramatic reveals. Nymphia’s boba (bubble tea) theme was original.
  • Bob: “Balloons are always better than butterflies.” (66:22)
• They debate the lack of direct connection to the song’s lyrics or spirit, humorously pitching ideas for a more on-theme, dramatic “bloody heart” moment.
  • Bob: “If Sapphira would have reached into her costume at the end and pulled out a bloody beating heart...would have been every fucking thing.” (68:17)
• Both agree Sapphira had the best “season” but Nymphia won the lip sync and crown, and either victory would have been deserved. (70:28)

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6. Miss Congeniality & Season Reflections

• Double win for Miss Congeniality: Xunami Muse and Sapphira Cristal. Both hosts agreed they were deserving, with shout-outs for Megami’s supportive qualities.
  • Monét: “Sometimes Tsunami, the elevator is not going to the top floor. I’m like, what are you talking about?” (62:01)
• Season 16 Praise: Felt like a return to 'classic' Drag Race—a real competition right up through the finale.
  • Monét: “I really, really, really enjoyed season 16.” (72:28)
  • Bob on Sapphira: “Y’all have an opportunity to uplift a remarkable, amazingly talented black queen and put her on the same level as these other queens.” (73:11)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Bob, on RuPaul in drag in a car: “The idea of RuPaul in a car is so silly to me. In full drag.” (07:08)
• Monét, about Plane Jane’s padding: “This bitch look like she got a bubble butt.” (39:24)
• Bob, on India’s new main stage: “It accommodates way more people…this seemed to accommodate way more.” (36:52)
• Monét, on Sapphira’s jaw-dropping solo: “This is one of my favorite finale solo performances I’ve ever seen.” (46:12)
• Bob, pressing the Miss Congeniality results: “No one else in the cast could possibly have been Miss Congeniality besides [Xunami Muse and Sapphira Cristal].” (61:30)
• Both, on Sapphira’s potential: “Do not squander the opportunity to uplift this queen.” (73:11)

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Audience Takeaways

• Fashion Education: Expect a masterclass in what works, what doesn’t, and why, from two queens who know the realities of drag construction and illusion.
• Insider Process: Reveals about song selection, choreography process, and how much the queens really do control their own fates in the finale.
• Production Tea: New finale set is likely the future, not just a one-off; it improves the experience for both audience and queens.
• Balanced Critique: Intense praise for creativity and hard work, but no look or performance is spared honest (sometimes ruthless) critique.

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Final Thoughts (Summary)

This episode encapsulates Sibling Rivalry at its best: thoughtful and unfiltered, mixing fan passion with deep inside knowledge. From celebrating Nymphia’s historic win to bigging up underappreciated queens like Sapphira Cristal, Bob and Monét provide listeners with a fun yet nuanced breakdown—the laughs as ever, as abundant as the shade.

Recommended moments:

• Nymphia’s banana theme debated (28:23)
• Discussion of padding and body illusions (39:37)
• Sapphira’s show-stopping solo number review (46:12)
• Finale lip sync “what ifs” (67:30–68:45)
• Closing encouragement to support black queens post-show (73:11)

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Next Episode Teaser: Who will win S17? Monét jokes "Cornbread" and Bob just wants his boba order in honor of the Banana Queen. (74:05)

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

I was a bad girl. I did some bad things. You know, I did it all for a play, but it meant nothing.

[A]

I'm guessing that's Madonna.

[B]

No, it's Karma by Jojo Siwa. Oh, thou shalt not lie.

[A]

Wait, she did Playboy?

[B]

No. What did you write? Playboy?

[A]

I did it off of Playboy.

[B]

I was a bad girl. I did some bad things. You know, I did it all for fun, but it was. But it meant nothing.

[A]

I heard, I heard, I heard Playboy lyrics somewhere in there.

[B]

Can I say real quick before we welcome the newest queen into the winner's circle? I am in Mexico City.

[A]

Love Mexico City.

[B]

And Mexico City is 7,000ft above sea level. I am winded just sitting in my room, really. Like, the air is thinner when you're up higher. So it didn't really affect me the first, like three or four days. I've been here for like maybe like four or five days now. I've done two shows. But something about today, I think it's just been. I've been on this level for so long that I'm like really feeling it today. I'm like, I am fucking windy. What's going on?

[A]

Mexico City, I performed there twice. I didn't feel that, but it was so long ago, I don't remember. I don't remember having that experience though.

[B]

It took me a couple of days to really feel it. But they also give us these oxygen things to suck on because they're like, if you're performing, you should, like, the thing is like, oh, yeah. Everyone who comes here uses these because it's like you are going to be deprived of oxygen if you don't, you know.

[A]

They have oxygen bars in Los Angeles. Have you ever. Have you heard of this?

[B]

Yeah, I heard of them.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

Why is that crazy?

[A]

Because I dabbled in the oxygen bar. I did not feel anything different. They were like, yeah, this is like pure oxygen. I'm like, bitch. So what's the oxygen in the air now?

[B]

The oxygen outside is certainly not pure, to be clear. I mean, pure. First of all, pure oxygen is literally flammable. So if you. If you light a match in the air, the air won't burst into flames.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Pure oxygen is 100% flammable.

[A]

So in our oxygen in the area. Condom. What? Well, I guess it's oxygen mix of carbon dioxide mixes. So many things.

[B]

Yeah. Mixed with jet fuel. Mixed with fair. Yeah, there's something small in LA smog.

[A]

Well, I didn't feel any different. I was stuck in this ear and I was like, maybe that just means

[B]

you have really good blood oxygen levels, which is something you should be happy about. Also, before we get started too, I want to thank the patrons for dragging you about your underwear try on debacle.

[A]

Well, I would say I read the comments. A couple people like, I worked. I. I worked at Victoria's Secret, not Victoria's Secret. I worked at some department store. And they were like, we did not. We, we. We put them back in circulation. So I will say the majority of people said you have to trash them. They can't use them. But some people who worked in retail were like, not in my place of work. We take.

[B]

A lot of folks who work in retail were like, no. The people at Fenty, a lot of folks work in retail were like, they

[A]

were like, we work at Fenty, which sells, literally, lingerie, and we sanitize and we sell it back.

[B]

So they did not say, we sanitize it. That's not what they said. No. What. Some of the people on the Patreon and I looked online, said that if the plastic film is still there and it's not contaminated, they will. They will put it back on the stock. They did not say they sanitize it.

[A]

The person working Fenty did say that I screen. I should have screenshot. I'll find it before this episode and we'll put on the screen.

[B]

But to be clear, most people are like, I work in a place. And we thought we throw that shit away. We just. It hits the trash, it never sees a lot of day again.

[A]

This is true.

[B]

But that's how fashion be.

[A]

Anyway, you know what? This is because I was never a retail girly. I worked in hotels. Hotels was my thing. So you asked me a question about hotels, I would Tell you all, but I don't know about retail stuff. Like, I don't know about. I don't know about.

[B]

Why do you talk down on retail workers?

[A]

Like, okay, if that's what you're taking from that, that's your own thing that you're projecting. I did not talk about it. This is not a job. I said I don't work at. I didn't work at kfc. Am I putting KFC down?

[B]

Well, why do you. It's just certain jobs you don't. You never said. You never said I wasn't a lawyer. You don't say that.

[A]

I have said that before, probably on this podcast. Probably.

[B]

You never said. You never said I wasn't a nurse practitioner. You're like, I don't work in a motherfucking kfc, bitch. No. Retail ass. Bomb. Ass. Bummy swag. Anyway, welcome to the winner circle. The first East Asian winner of. Of RuPaul's Drag Race. She's the season 16 winner. She's a. The crown is back in New York City, and a big Congratulations to Nymphia Wind 1. Wind 1. Nymphia. One win.

[A]

I know people was winsing her all season long. Girl.

[B]

Yeah, me, I.

[A]

Including myself. Including myself.

[B]

Hi, I'm people. You know, Nymphia wins.

[A]

Well, to be fair, she does wins. She wins season six.

[B]

But I think it's because a lot of last name, like, Joan isn't a last name. Jones is. Robert isn't a last name. Robert Roberts.

[A]

Yeah, but Brown is. Brown is a last name, but not Browns.

[B]

No, Browns. Not a last name.

[A]

Yes, they're brown, not Browns. So we saw RuPaul. We see RuPaul producing, doing this music video, and I have to say, I am. I am a true. I am a RuPaul fan. I get excited by a RuPaul music video. I get excited when I see RuPaul on my screen. I just listened to that podcast he did, the Call her daddy podcast.

[B]

RuPaul.

[A]

I'm obsessed with RuPaul. Anyway, so this music video, I have to say, maybe because I'm a little dense, I did not see that this was a green screen. It was in front of him. So when it revealed, I was like, ow.

[B]

It wasn't a green screen. It was an led.

[A]

I'm sorry, an LED or a tv. I didn't realize he was.

[B]

The moment she was sitting in the backseat of a limousine, I was like, she's not in the backseat of a car. I was like, first of all, a drag queen. First of all, if RuPaul is in the backseat of the car. There's no way. Her shoulders would be RuPaul's shoulder. The back would be here, her shoulders. RuPaul is 6 foot 4. She's getting a giant wig. And also those of you, when a drag queen is in a automobile, it never looks that glamorous. A drag queen automobile looks like this because you're. First of all, you're wearing a. Well, those of us who put effort in, you're wearing a corset like this. Okay, okay. I've been in the car. Monet. I'll just post some pictures down the road. I must have a video of Monet in the car. But you be you wearing a corset sometime. Your wig is so tall that you can't even sit your head up straight. So you got your head cocked to the side. That's why a lot of times, you know, RuPaul said in her book, and I realized it was true. When you're in. If you're getting dropped off at an event and you're in drag, just get dropped off around the corner and walk down the street. Do not pull up in front of the event in your car, trying to get out looking crazy.

[A]

That happened to me when I did the VMAs and movie awards. Because the car will, like, bring you right up to where the carpet is, basically. And I get up.

[B]

Like, I get up. The thing.

[A]

Dress is at my waist.

[B]

I'm like. But you're poised.

[A]

That was just for those two.

[B]

Patty.

[A]

So now Patty's trying to come and pull my dress down. It is a dragon getting out of a car is. Is comical. It's crazy.

[B]

Yeah. Being in the car there, sometimes we're laying down. That's why as soon as I saw RuPaul, I was like, this bitch is not in the backseat of a car. I just wrote down. It is really funny. The idea. The idea of RuPaul in a car is so silly to me. In full. Also, the idea that RuPaul would get dressed one place, get in a car, and then drive to another place is also very funny to me.

[A]

This outfit. RuPaul has these fucking custom shoes that I'm sure they. They probably took a shoe and they take the fabric from the dress and made like a kind of like a. What, Domino? Call them a spat. Well, not dominant. Call them out. That's what they are. Or something in that situation.

[B]

But it's their covers that cover your shoes. Make them look like boots.

[A]

Yeah. So. But this whole. I think RuPaul looks hot RuPaul looks sexy.

[B]

Maybe she's wearing custom boots. I don't know.

[A]

Maybe she is. Yeah. Do you know that Violet has a. Well, everyone knows. This is not a secret. She has a whole bunch of custom Louboutins. Would you ever get a pair of custom Louboutins? Can you fit. Can you fit regular ones?

[B]

No, my foot's too big.

[A]

Me. Me, too.

[B]

And no, I mean, I have a pair of Louboutins, but they're too small for me. So. No, there's not. There's no part of me that really wants to get a pair of Louboutins that badly.

[A]

And that. That fucking dancer in the front left, aj, he's so hot. AJ is so hot.

[B]

I don't remember which one it was. Is he in the picture?

[A]

He in the picture? The one in the bottom, front left.

[B]

Bottom front left. That's the picture of a man's chin. I don't know what.

[A]

Who.

[B]

I can't. I can't tell which one that is. But you know what? They were all very beautiful and attractive people. I really love RuPaul.

[A]

I love.

[B]

When we get to see RuPaul perform. I would go to the RuPaul World Tour.

[A]

Would RuPaul ever do it? Do you think there is a.

[B]

There is a.

[A]

No, wait, let me finish. Let me finish. Do you think there's a possibility that RuPaul does a favor?

[B]

So I'm on tour right now with someone who is roughly the same age as RuPaul, and I think Madonna might be a little bit older than RuPaul, I think. Or they might be the same age. And this is no shade to RuPaul, but I don't think RuPaul can do what Madonna's doing out there. Also, bear in mind Madonna has been doing this for a very. Like, Madonna has been doing this thing, this specific thing, for 40 years. You know what I mean? It takes. It takes a lot of. Not just stamina, but, like, you have to put up with so much. You're probably getting drag, like, three to four times a week.

[A]

He does that already.

[B]

And. And then. But then also travel in between. Get on a tour bus or get on your private plane. Get in front of all these people who have all their. What, is RuPaul gonna let someone take a picture of her? When is RuPaul about to let someone who is not that big tall. That one big, tall guy take a picture of her?

[A]

Jake, so you. So what I'm hearing is you're saying that RuPaul has no patience and he has no stamina is what I'm hearing.

[B]

RuPaul isn't known for her patience. And I don't think I'm the first one to say RuPaul's not known for her. RuPaul is known for her patience.

[A]

Well, she's not not known for it.

[B]

Like, I know you're at the. I know you're still on the World

[A]

of Winter payroll anyway, but is there a situation we've seen that RuPaul doesn't have patience? I mean, if anything, we don't know if RuPaul has patience. Like, anytime I've been on set, Drag Race is long.

[B]

As long as we're the one who always tells the story of RuPaul being like, get some chairs for these goddamn queens. Their fucking feet are fucking hurting. Yes. You the one that tells the story. Yes.

[A]

Because RuPaul was not for himself. RuPaul's advocating for us.

[B]

Because patience doesn't have to be just for yourself. I'm just saying that doesn't sound like a story of patience to me.

[A]

I think that that's advocating for young drag queens. He's realizing, because this, at this point, Asia has been. Asia O' Hara done slaughtered a family of butterflies, okay? So RuPaul, she's hunched over her chair. RuPaul is feeling. He is empathizing with his girls. He's like, get these queens some help, you know? Anyway, I would. I would die to see a RuPaul Rosso, honestly, if he just did, like, 12 major cities. Atlanta, New York, L.A. portland, like.

[B]

But you have to do a lot of cities for the tour to make his money back, especially at the level that RuPaul would want to do it at. And I think RuPaul could. I think RuPaul could do arenas.

[A]

Oh, for sure. RuPaul can. Yes. Okay, so y' all know I watch the View all the time.

[B]

I would go see RuPaul at Mad Square Garden for sure.

[A]

When RuPaul is at the View, they shut it down. Like, RuPaul. Like, fans of RuPaul, they show. Like, they have to. Like, they always talk about how they have. They have to cut the tickets off way longer than anyone else. Like, the fans. Like, I think RuPaul could absolutely do an arena tour. It'll be amazing.

[B]

I also love that whenever she's on stage, she's always the tallest person every single time. Rarely is anyone ever taller than RuPaul.

[A]

Who's who? Who's who's opening for RuPaul?

[B]

Probably Trixie. No, she wouldn't Let Trixie, I think she wouldn't get a drag queen. She would get like some budding young pop star.

[A]

You think?

[B]

Probably, yeah.

[A]

Huh. Okay. Jojo Siwa maybe. Although Jojo Siwa just had like the biggest. She performed this somewhere and apparently it's like the biggest it's ever been attended or something like that. I forgot what I saw.

[B]

But anyway, Jojo Siwa also does arena tours.

[A]

Yeah. Let's go on to these queens. Look. So all of these season 16.

[B]

Oh, and real quick, to anyone who wants to come out to the largest show that any woman has ever performed in the history of music, I will see you the Copacabana beach on May 4 in Rio de Janeiro. We will be performing for almost 2 million people.

[A]

Gag. That's fair.

[B]

I don't even know what too many people looks like.

[A]

Have you ever been to my apartment in New York? My building? Yeah, that's probably about. That's roughly 2 million people in that building.

[B]

Oh, that's so interesting.

[A]

Yeah. Bob going back to Brazil. Bob Boss be clapping some Brazilian cheeks.

[B]

Honey, do you remember when you. When work the world documentary doxxed you?

[A]

They didn't dox me.

[B]

It's your old apartment.

[A]

Okay, let's go to the queens.

[B]

Okay. Yeah, let's go to the queens and their looks. Let's talk about. First of all, RuPaul looks really good. I really do love this look. You mentioned already. I think, you know, when it comes to Hershey LaCour, I. This look, this looks good. It's not like really blowing me away or anything, but she does look good, though.

[A]

I like these things. I didn't notice it. These, these hand straps, I don't know what they are, but it's interesting. I think her foundation color is so much lighter than her face. Did you notice this?

[B]

No, I haven't.

[A]

No, that hasn't. Like, her body and her face were too. Like, her face was so much lighter than the rest of her body. It was kind of a little distracting to me. But I do like the dress.

[B]

I like.

[A]

I think this blue looks good. I think this hair could have been bigger. I think Hershey looks good.

[B]

And I think the blue in the hair is what I'm now loving. Let's go on to. To Mirage, the Las Vegas. The Sweep. The Swiffer of Las Vegas that she calls herself.

[A]

I guess I didn't know that. This was sickening. I love this hair. I fucking want this hair. And she does something that's really interesting. That thing looks. Works really well on camera. Obviously, we've Seen nude illusion. But her nude illusion has a sheen to it, so it makes it look more like skin. Like, it looks like you have, like, oiled up skin. I think mirage. I think this dress is good. That's her eye makeup. That thing. Are they stones in her eyes? What is under her fucking eyes?

[B]

It looks so glitter or something.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

You know, I used to do this with my nude illusion. You know that, right? I used to do. I used to wear, like, a shiny. And he's always making fun of me before. This is so Monet. I used to wear this. I had. When Yuha was making me those. Those. Those things. She made one that was a little bit shiny.

[A]

Thank you, Bob. Those things. What things?

[B]

The. The. The. The one. The. The one when I wear my. When I put on my padding and everything, then I put that one big body stocking on over everything. That one. And he used to make fun of me for her all the time. And if you guys want to see the one, I'm wearing it in the TV show playing House in the finale episode of the entire series. You can see me there.

[A]

Well, maybe in person, it looks weird, but on camera, like, on screen. I didn't see on camera in those. But on screen, because you even changed to a matte one. Because in person it looks like. It looks like. In person looks like. Like how. Like what Shaquita and older queens do because they wear, like, shiny tights. But on screen, it looks. It looks different.

[B]

No, I didn't. I didn't switch back. I just ran out of the fabric.

[A]

So we just. It was like, girl, it's just hunting.

[B]

Let's go on to Amanda. Tori meeting. Is this hair gray?

[A]

It's purple. It's like a lavender.

[B]

I don't like this hair color, and I don't think I like this dress either. I don't think I like this. I don't think I am a big fan of this.

[A]

Yeah, I do like the glove puff thing. Trinity Taylor has a glove similar. That's like a. It looks like a. But yeah, I didn't like this look. I don't. I'm not a particular fan of it. I didn't. Yeah, this was not. No, not for me.

[B]

Let's go into Geneva Carr, baby. Geneva Carr will wear a hideous garment if it's the last thing she does. I don't know. I don't even know where to start with this thing.

[A]

I don't know what it is.

[B]

So she's supposed to be. Okay. So obviously she's going off A car theme. Her purse is a wheel and her train is a checkered, like, go flag. But why? I know your name was Geneva Carr, but why? Like, I don't like this look.

[A]

Terrible. I don't like, I hate this look. I think this is a terrible look. This does not look good. Why would you do this? Next.

[B]

Yeah, let's go into Maami Meami. I like this look, actually. I wonder, what is this? I wonder what's up with this fabric.

[A]

I, I've seen that fabric. He's having a garment district. Yeah, it was that, that geometric thing. I, I, I remember this fabric. I did she always pad this white? Like, I feel like this is giving legs and hips and body.

[B]

Body. Well, she was definitely pretty padded during the lip sync smackdown. But there's also a chance that she may have just gained some weight in between those times. Or maybe she added. Or maybe she got bigger pads. You never know. You know how when you get brand new pads, they are way bigger than your old pads.

[A]

And also, but it's also because she's walking, but she's giving a supermodel walk. Her leg is going like this.

[B]

I do wish that her cape connected at the elbow as well. I do wish that because just the neck and the wrist. And if it was also the elbow, like the, like the, like the muses in Hercules.

[A]

I also wish she would have worn a red pump. I don't remember looking, but looking at this picture, it looks like just a silver pump. Why is it silver?

[B]

We need to have a conversation about what Tsunami is wearing because I don't understand.

[A]

I have no idea what I'm looking at.

[B]

This is, I will say this, it is a silhouette I've certainly never seen before. And I don't know if that's a good thing. And Monet, I hate to break it to you, but this is not a cover up.

[A]

This is either. I tagged her. She would have not answered.

[B]

No, Kandi Muse answers. And she said it's not a cover up.

[A]

I cannot.

[B]

I also want to point out that 73% of people on our Patreon also said it wasn't a cover up. And by your definition, that's a landslide. By your definition.

[A]

Okay, yes, I agree they said that, but just because y' all said it doesn't mean it's true. Like, I was waiting for her to confirm or deny, and she said, well, Candy said, what made it wild?

[B]

Me that you made it sound like I was crazy for not thinking you were like, are you crazy? This is not a cover. I was like, no, it's not. It doesn't even look a cover up. You're like, what?

[A]

It was such a color. It looked like, I want to look. I'm going to be something. But I was clearly. I was wrong, so. Okay, nigga. I do like this hair, though. This hair on her face is stunning. I just don't understand what this silhouette is. And she was walking, and my brain was trying to figure out what I'm looking at because the one leg was peeking out. So is that other leg like what we're looking at right now? Is that her left leg? Yes. No, her right leg.

[B]

That's her right leg. And she also doesn't have a left arm.

[A]

Right.

[B]

This was. I don't. I have. I have never seen this silhouette in my entire life, and I don't think

[A]

I ever want to see it ever again.

[B]

Let's go on to classic.

[A]

The colors are nice, though. Do you like the hair?

[B]

I do like the hair. The hair is really cute. I really love the hair. And I love the jewelry as well.

[A]

Yeah, I did, too. It was great.

[B]

Okay. You're so. You're so the pit stop. Oh, my God. You're so the pit stop. What?

[A]

What?

[B]

So can you find something nice to say about.

[A]

I did not. I just. I. We. Obviously, we are both people that. Who adore natural hairstyles. I was curious if you fucking liked it, bitch.

[B]

Well, I mean, not every natural hairstyle. That one I really like.

[A]

That's why I was asking.

[B]

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[A]

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[A]

This is wild plasma NYC. I think plasma look, her makeup. Okay, so y'. All. So apparently they filmed this in August. The season was done like May, June, and they filmed this in August. For Plasma's makeup to grow that much in that short span of time, I find it to be very impressive. Makeup is a very hard thing to, For. For me to want to.

[B]

I think that too, about Sasha Velour. Sasha Velour at the finale in the. In the first episode is so insanely vast. It's really impressive. I want to go on. So Plasma looks amazing.

[A]

Amazing.

[B]

There is nothing on this look I don't like. Everything about this look is great. Her hair, her makeup, the outfit, the color of the outfit, the gold, the little sparkles all over it. Yeah, this looks so good. Good for her.

[A]

She looks, she looks, she looks. She looks really good. I'm very impressed by Ms. Plasma. Let's go on to. The Queen of Flips is Maya Iman Lepage.

[B]

And I love, I love her hair. Her hair is so stunning. I love buns and balls and, and. And anyone knows me, I'm not, you know, I love a bun. And she's got three of them on top of her head, which I really love. And I just wish that the, the tinsel or the, the, the tassels were just higher to make her legs look

[A]

a little bit longer. I wish it was suit. And also, like, the top looks so expensive and I don't know why. Yeah, it's something about. Something about the waist down I don't love.

[B]

Maybe just I'm the opposite. I think it looks more expensive from the waist down.

[A]

I disagree. I think maybe it's a two tone because the top looks gray and the bottom looks silver and maybe that's what's throwing me off. But I agree. Her face and her hair look really, really, really beautiful. But yeah, she's a short girl. You got to find ways to elongate. Girl. You got to find ways to elongate.

[B]

A lot of the girls aren't wearing boobs.

[A]

Well, okay, Queen of Flips. Who else?

[B]

Plasma didn't wear boobs.

[A]

Oh, Megami's not wearing boobs.

[B]

Megami's not wearing boobs. Queen of Flips is not wearing boobs. I'm like, why don't they wear boobs?

[A]

Geneva Harvard's not wearing boobs either. Trend alert. No boobs.

[B]

Let's go on to up until dawn since we're using their handles. She said y' all thought the elf ears were big before. Babe, we're Going, we're going to the next level. This is very dawn. It is.

[A]

Is it a reference that I don't

[B]

get the perspective of the hair is kind of hard for me. But everything else I love.

[A]

Yeah, I think the colors, the tones, she looks really good. I was wondering if there was like. Or she just being like an extraterrestrial alien creature that. Her.

[B]

She's an alien. She's from the planet of. She's like the last of the dawns, apparently.

[A]

Got it. Okay. Yeah, I think. I think this was really good. I love the colors. I think. I think this was really good. I don't know what. At the top of the hair, was this supposed to be like some type of orifice?

[B]

No, not that. I wasn't clocking that. I just. It just looked like some interesting shaped hair to me.

[A]

I mean.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Let's go on to.

[B]

Years ago, I worked at this restaurant called Ruby Tuesday. And when I was there, there was this guy named Solo. And this other guy, I can't remember his name, let's call him Ted. Solo was a black guy, Ted was a white guy. And they're both very, very Southern. They were argue a lot. They were like friends. They were arguing in the. In the. In the kitchen all the time. And Solo had one of those, like, one of those. They both had. So Solo had a black Southern accent and Ted had a white Southern accent. They would always go back and forth. And Solo had a really high pitched voice. And then Solo said to Ted, he was like, I will fucking give you a something. Every orifice in your body. And then he goes, what's. So then Ted goes, what's a orifice? And then Solo goes, man, it's a hole. Like a hole in your body. And then Ted goes, oh, like a bullet hole. I do not know why that sticks with me anytime someone says the word orifice. But I think about Ted going, oh, like a bullet hole. Which I guess is an orifice. Technically, it is. Let's go on to morphine.

[A]

Someone who has several orifices is morphine. Love Dion.

[B]

I.

[A]

I think. I mean, this goes without saying. Morphine is always stunning in the face. In the face. She is always stunning in the face. For some reason. I didn't love this look, though. Like, I think this is fine. This is a. This is. This is a gown. This is fine. But I wasn't in love with it for whatever reason. I don't know why.

[B]

Yeah, I don't love this look either. But I love her hair and makeup. I love, love, love hair I love the little curl. The little spit curl she has on her head is so cute. She's another queen who can wear a horseshoe hairline. Her and RuPaul can wear the hairline that just goes straight across in one line, and it does not look weird on them. I do not know why. And I feel like if RuPaul had her hairline done more like. Like a. Like a hairline looks, it would look weird.

[A]

I think we have to get one that'll make wigs with her face, you know? Like, I would love to see RuPaul in a. In an extreme, like, Marco. Marco's wigs. Crazy widow's peak, or, like, two of them. I think that could look really kind of RuPaul, actually.

[B]

Yeah, I agree. Something about this dress is lacking. Yeah.

[A]

You know, I think.

[B]

I think the silhouette itself is pretty simple, and the necklace kind of seems like an afterthought. And, um, I think it's the mirrors on the dress.

[A]

Like, I think maybe that's what it

[B]

is when you put mirrors on something, that's not it. And I. And I have some garments with mirrors on them, for sure. But I feel like when you. When you put mirrors on something, it can really either heighten it or cheapen it.

[A]

So I agree.

[B]

I don't think it hid it here.

[A]

I think the mirrors is what's taking me out. Let's go on to Q. I love this. I love this gown. I think it's a very, very, very beautiful gown.

[B]

I even.

[A]

I even like the hair as well. You know, I like. I like all of this, but I do. I love this gown. I would. I would wear this.

[B]

Yeah. I do like this guy. I think. I wish it wasn't a leotard, though.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I don't think I like that it's a Lee. I don't like how much leg I'm seeing. I wish it was either a catsuit or a gown with the. With the. The peplum train on it, and. But other than that, this look is absolutely stunning. I love this hair. This hair is really great. But why was she walking like that? Like, she's always so awkward in her body. She was like. Right.

[A]

And I was like, what?

[B]

I just wrote down why. I just wrote down why. Why is Q walking like that?

[A]

I also love the sleeves on this. I think the sleeves are really cool. I wonder if she made this. Probably, but I don't know for sure.

[B]

Let's go on to Plane Jane. See, Plane Jane wore a silhouette very similar to Q's, and I didn't like when she revealed that hers was leotard, either. That was annoying.

[A]

I don't know why she even revealed. She should have just kept it like this.

[B]

It looks way better as a gown than it did as Leah's heart.

[A]

I believe this is made by ballgone boy who made my black. I have something similar to this in black, except I don't have the bottom tier, just that top piece. And I think this looks great. I love this. I love this gown. Without. It should have stayed a gown. Not really as hard.

[B]

She really does that head shake thing so often. Like, she does it a lot. And honestly, I'm starting, and I hate it. Let's go on. Okay. So plane Jane. I feel like.

[A]

Wait, it's her look that she wears in the thing.

[B]

Oh, okay. Oh, her look in the video package.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I don't love this.

[B]

No, I do not like this, which is weird because I normally really like what plane Jane's wearing. I don't like this.

[A]

Yeah, I do not like this at all.

[B]

This, like, brocade, like, it looks like a couch, which sometimes I love a fabric that looks like a couch or a curtain. Sometimes you look through my drag. Something about this one, I don't care for it. Why is it on top of mesh?

[A]

Yeah, I don't. I think she's trying to be edgy and cool, and she looks like a fool. I don't like this.

[B]

Damn. What a fool.

[A]

Oh, God, Bob. Fool. My fucking nuts.

[B]

The banana queen, Nymphia Wind came out as a banana.

[A]

Fierce.

[B]

And I really enjoy this look. Actually. It kind of reminds me of the. Of the. What do you call it? The Mugler look. That Cardi B.

[A]

Wore the Venus out of the show.

[B]

Yeah, it kind of. Maybe that was her inspiration for this look. But I realized something another queen once did. There was another Asian queen who aligned herself with a piece of fruit a lot of times, and it didn't occur to me, but something about the way she did it was less aggressive, I would say. But Manila Luzon is the pineapple queen.

[A]

She is the pineapple queen, and it

[B]

is part of her heritage. Like her doing pineapples, being from the Philippines, and the pineapples are yellow. And she did a really. And she has worn a. She has, like, several pineapple dresses, which are so cute. Anyway, I was. I was thinking myself. Oh, yeah, a queen did do the. The. The. The yellow fruit. An Asian queen did do a yellow fruit thing.

[A]

Well, they did a number together.

[B]

Oh, that's cute. That's. Oh, that's a $3 bill, isn't it?

[A]

Yeah, $3 bill.

[B]

Where the winners are. $3 bill. Or is this. Was this.

[A]

No, I think they did the viewing party and then afterwards. At the party. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, work. The official. At the party at the dollar bill, or was they just going.

[A]

I think that was. I don't know if it was official, but that's where they had, like, five girls there.

[B]

But she looks really good in this. In this outfit. And I love. I love this. I do wish that the back bananas were coming up a little bit higher.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So that when they. When they. So kind of like the way that Sasha Kobe's outfit was, how it kind of opened up around her body, but the back was higher and the. And the front was lower.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Also, her hair was really stunning in this. I love how she came out in, like, the top of the banana, like the black.

[B]

The.

[A]

The root part, and then she, like.

[B]

That was a really cute reveal.

[A]

It was great. She really turned this. This was fabulous.

[B]

Yeah, she looks good. And her.

[A]

Her video package look. No, I don't like this one either. No, no. Yeah. Terrible.

[B]

Because you know what it is? Because they don't look like. They don't look like hands. They look like flat gloves that are. That have been stuffed with stuff.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But not very well.

[A]

Yeah. And then you can see her bra in it. This was. This was a no.

[B]

Yeah. I don't like this look. Let's go and do Sapphira Crystal. Sapphira Crystal is. She is a very opulent drag queen. I will say, the only thing I don't like about this look is that it was. It was a look. It was kind of like, inhibiting her. Like, she was like, she couldn't move her because her whole. Her whole head is. First of all, she's wearing a breastplate that goes all the way up to her neck, and then on top of the breastplate, she's wearing a huge collar. That being said, it does look really opulent and cool. I just wish she could have been more mobile.

[A]

Yeah. I only like this from the neck up. I like, sometimes everything doesn't need to be the biggest. Like, obviously, everything is big drag. But I felt like she came out and to your point, like, it was like, taking away from her because she couldn't really move and walk in it. So, like, her face, though, her makeup and I love this hair, was absolutely perfect and stunning. I did not like this look. Like, why? I. It's like a Valkyrie callback. Like Wagner. But, like, why, like, the. The boobs out and, like, the, the bottom thing. I, I, I, I didn't love this.

[B]

I always love Sapphire's makeup. I genuinely.

[A]

Yeah, it's perfect.

[B]

And the way that she does her skin, it just looks so remarkable. She is a great makeup artist. I feel like no one's really talking about that, which is so odd to me.

[A]

And, like, yeah, her face, she just looks like, even this picture. Like, I love this. Also the lip combo. This is great. Her face is beautiful.

[B]

So let's talk about her look for her video package. It's kind of giving. What do you call it? Sixth Sense? Fifth Sense? Fifth Element. Fifth Element. You know, I don't hate it, but I don't love it.

[A]

I don't love this.

[B]

Think hard about this.

[A]

I don't like it. Also, look, I wonder what, what the

[B]

prompt was for these looks.

[A]

She has the boss. She has, like, the, the brown stocking to make the nude illusion, but in her tights are different colors. So, like, her ankle. She's one black person, and she's. She's a completely different black person.

[B]

Yeah. I'm not crazy about this look.

[A]

Yeah. Good.

[B]

So let's go on to the performances. So Nymphia Win comes out, and I feel like in the video packages, so I feel like the top three queens are actually. Are the queens who actually gave the least amount of their personalities. Maybe, maybe not. I can't say they're playing Jane, but for Nymphia Wind and for Sapphire, Cristal, they didn't give us. They didn't open up a lot to us, which is okay, that's fine. But they didn't do a lot of opening up to us in the season, in my opinion. Whereas, like, I feel like. Like, I feel like morphine and, and, and Amanda and Plane Jane, and they were really opening about who they are and about their stories and less about platitudes. You know what I mean?

[A]

Like, we have the whole storyline with Sapphira when that, that episode when she cries, like, about, like, about.

[B]

I didn't say they didn't open up at all. I said they just didn't open up as much.

[A]

The other ones, I mean, I guess I don't feel the same. I feel like. I feel like. I feel like we really went on a journey with Sapphira. We saw her, we learned a lot about, like, her life back at home and, like, her mom and, like, why she started doing opera and, like, her relationship with her dad and all that stuff.

[B]

I feel like I offer one episode. There was. There were 15 other episodes.

[A]

No, the opera one was a whole different thing. But I feel like. I mean, but everyone has, like, things, right? Like, you know, you don't learn about everything about me. Also, I've been on the show three fucking times, so. God, if you don't know anything about me, then you don't like me.

[B]

Maybe they were saving it. They were like, we'll just. We'll just tell that story when you come back next time.

[A]

But, yeah, I. I feel like. I feel like I learned a lot about Z. I. I feel that way about Nymphia. Wind, for sure. I. I didn't get to learn a lot about her, but for about Safira and Plane, I feel like I learned about them a lot.

[B]

No, I. I was wrong about playing, but I do feel it, particularly about Nymphia, for sure, because I feel like in the video package, it was. It just. I was like, they really had to, like, extrapolate a lot to. To try to make it seem personal and not just a showcase of her garments, because the point of the video package is to show their personalities. That being said, in terms of this performance, I really liked her look with the arrows. It's like she is a warrior or something who had been attacked. There are all these arrows.

[A]

Did you notice that? I didn't notice that, no.

[B]

There were these arrows plunged into her body, and the reveal was pretty good,

[A]

but they pulled her. They pulled a reveal and almost pulled

[B]

her off the stage, girl. Because she's fucking three pounds. Say, yank this, bitch. My big, sturdy ass, bitch. The garment will rip before I fall. Let me tell you that right now. When you're, like, a buck fitted in the picture.

[A]

That's AJ on the left, Bob.

[B]

Are you trying to get me to set y' all up?

[A]

You ask. You couldn't see him. Just so you know who AJ is.

[B]

Do you want me to. Can you. Can you guys please write his Instagram handle or something? What do you want?

[A]

You are so. I'm just telling you who it is. You asked earlier. Yeah, but I thought. I thought this was a good performance. Y' all know me. I've said this. I love these performances. I love the girls getting to do their thing A LA season 7 and season 8. This is the Drag Race I love. And because you get both right, we see these, and then you see a lip sync as well. And I think that this was a very fun song. I loved her. She was giving storm. Like, she was commanding the winds. They lifted her up. She, like, had this billowing thing behind her. I thought this was a good number. And she took command of the stage.

[B]

I'm confused about something.

[A]

What.

[B]

So I think the reason why you heard the rumor that they were doing it in studio and not in a theater is because the new. I think that stage is the new Drag Race stage. So I think that when All Stars kicks up and when the next season 17 kick up, they're going to be on that stage. I think they are. Because you remember last episode, RuPaul said, welcome to the new main stage of RuPaul's Drag Race. So I think that the old. The old stage, the T is done for.

[A]

Oh, no, I don't think so. I think they're going to. I think what's going to happen is because this works so well and they filmed it, they didn't have to wait a whole year and they didn't have to worry about spoilers at phones. I feel like this is going to be the stage for the finale. Every time the regular season is going to be. Because then it's going to take away. Because then when they do the finale, it's not going to feel as grand. I think they're gonna have the regular tee for the regular episodes and for the finale episodes, it was gonna be this. Going forward.

[B]

We'll see. This is the set, the stage from Celebrity, but it does help because it accommodates way more. So you guys don't realize whenever they put the chairs in there for the other stages, it is like rickety, crickety chairs smushed in. There's like a cameraman on top of every. And there's not that they're like the most I've ever seen. There was maybe like 20 people in the audience.

[A]

I don't remember, but it's not a lot.

[B]

But this seemed to accommodate way more people.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This new stage, and apparently you've been on both. I've never been on this. You've been on that stage before.

[A]

Yeah, the one of secret slavery. Drag Race was. Is big. But apparently they shot. They just brought it to where they were shoot. Regular Drag Race. That isn't like a new sound stage.

[B]

I don't. I have no clue. I don't know what they're doing over there. But I really enjoyed Nymphia. Wind. The wind. The wind gag at the end where she came up and then the. The chiff or was flying through the air and the wind was really hitting her face. I really thought it was a great.

[A]

She looked like Taiwanese storm.

[B]

Yeah, it was great. And I think she did. She did a really good job. And also it's something Funny the way they're. Rue standing at attention when talking.

[A]

Why? Why. Why were his hands back behind his. Why?

[B]

Rue was like.

[A]

Yeah, it was like. I felt like. I felt like he was gonna do so. Like, he was about to, like, shoot them with water or something. It was so weird. He just had his hands behind his back the entire time.

[B]

Maybe. Maybe she wasn't wearing nails. Yeah, I assume she probably didn't have nails on. Cause I. Bitch, I. Cause if you ever see a picture of me. If you ever see a picture of me and I'm holding something like this.

[A]

Oh, that's the nail that's missing.

[B]

That's. Cause I'm missing a nail. Do you see this? She's missing a nail.

[A]

Oh, girl, I flew like this drinking water like this on stage,

[B]

Literally. Y' all having a good night? How y' all doing tonight? Oh, by the way, can I tell you something right now?

[A]

What?

[B]

Fuck what? You heard. I'm going back to gloves with nails on them. You hoes can eat dicks. I'm going back, bitch. I'm going back to gloves. It's not for me.

[A]

It's not for me.

[B]

I'm back in the house, girl.

[A]

The chat that Nymphia's having is so beautiful. We see her mom and apparently the necklace that her mom is wearing with the handcuffs on it. It's. It's a. It's. It's. It's a response on the Taiwanese protest and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So her mom was making a political statement. She said, I'm using my. My. My chance on TV to make a motherfucking political statement on work.

[B]

I feel like whenever they ask for someone's baby pictures, they are like, send us the gayest picture, the faggiest picture you have, because it is always the gayest pictures of them. What was your picture they used?

[A]

I don't remember. I don't remember. You know. You know, I don't remember. I don't remember. Christina Glare was on the show. I don't remember.

[B]

Mine was a picture of me graduating from kindergarten from preschool. What.

[A]

Can you. Can you show us your pose?

[B]

I was a cute little kid.

[A]

Let's go on. Oh, I was. Yeah.

[B]

She did a good job.

[A]

Yeah. Let's go on to Ms. Plain Jane, who does the song bodysuit. And the picture we're looking at right now, this bitch look like she got a bubble butt. This looks like a fat, juicy booty.

[B]

So Jane's ass padding is remarkable. I. I wrote down her ass padding is Next level. Like, I don't know what Plane is doing on the ass padding front, but her ass padding is bananas. It's so good, that ass look.

[A]

Jay or Jay. Jake Hanson. We have to use this picture because this looks like it is a juicy, like, natural booty. This is crazy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She was doing this number and sandwiched between the Queen of Wind and I don't know the name of Saphir song, but it was the best one. We'll get there. Jane doing the bodysuit song was insane to me. It just made her look like an amateur. It just made her like, again, Nymphia is the queen of the wind. They're lifting her up. They're billowing chiffon. Sapphira starts her number off. She's on the top of the mountain. They reveal to her the number is so good. She's dancing her ass off, and Jana's just doing the bodysuit song.

[B]

Well, I think that Nymphia, Wind and Sapphira tend to be more theatrical in their presentation and what they do on stage, from what I've experienced, what I've seen online and from what I've known of Sapphira throughout the years, and Plane Jane seems to be a little bit more interested in the body and the. And the goofiness of it all. So I agree with you. But also, I want to talk to you guys about the process of doing a song.

[A]

Oh, yeah, people. People have been saying, monet, they gave her that song. Like, it's not her fault. Bob is going to speak of someone who literally had the experience.

[B]

So season eight was the second season to do it. And they call you and they. They. I don't know how they do it now, but when I did it, they make the song more or less with you. Like, they were like. They called me. They were like, we want to do a song called Purse First. I was like, please don't. I'm going to be doing a song called Purse first, and I really like to do that in my own voice. Okay, great. So what can we make the song about? And I was like, well, I was really braggadocious, and I was really proud, you know, full of myself, but also pretending to be very humble. That's kind of my gag that I say I'm humble, but I'm really not very humble. And they're like, okay. And then I kind of told them, like, the vibe of the kind of music that I like. And then they went and made this song and sent it back. So there was no, like, checking back and forth I didn't get to make notes or edits or anything, but. But they. I gave them the input for what I wanted. They gave me their ideas. I gave them my ideas. We came to a conclusion. And then when it came to rehearsing with Jamal Sims, we, we, we, we. We were giving all of our input. Like he was literally taking our ideas. So I mean, I. I didn't see Kim and Naomi's rehearsal, but like I. A lot of those moves I choreographed myself. He helped me put them in spots that made more sense. I told her I wanted to start from the audience so they really create. So from what my experience was, you are a big part of making the number. Truly, they don't just give you the number.

[A]

Blaine. Jane tweeted Anyways, bodysuit8 and no one gave me shit. I decided on the concert myself after some brainstorming and sent in the demo they could use as inspo work. So y' all Yahoo makes pieces that are like bonet, you stupid bitch. They made her do that song. She didn't want to do that.

[B]

That is.

[A]

They made her do it. She literally saying Bob is on her cooperating the same fucking stories. What are y' all talking about?

[B]

That being said, I do. I think the idea for the song is actually really funny. I like the idea. I like the concept of the song bodysuit. I think it's really funny. Her padding looks really amazing. I agree with Michelle though. She couldn't take it the next level by review it. But if she would have somehow managed to reveal to 10 bodysuits, it would have been everything. That would have been the very last one ended up being a gown that everything. Yeah, that would've been crazy.

[A]

Yeah. For someone who like. To your point, I agree she's into the being sexy and the goofiness of it all. So bitch, lean in. Give us like. Give us like, give us dress as men. My strongest suit a la Bob submiss sobriety. And give us all the reveals, all the changes into these body suits.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Why are you clenching your pearls? What?

[B]

Out in my sobriety.

[A]

That's crazy voice. Shut the boy up. Anyway, moving on. She does a little.

[B]

Were you at that performance? No. You were at the next one. You came to one of my. My pageants.

[A]

No, I didn't. I didn't know you yet.

[B]

Yes, you did, Monet.

[A]

Bob, I did not. I did not come to any. The only Mr. Bride I went to was the one I painted Taylor. Oh, yeah.

[B]

That's what it was. It was Honey in the Bronx, which

[A]

By the way, I did a show in New York on Thursday, and Honey LeBron came.

[B]

I miss Honey. I need to call Honey. I miss Honey a lot. My mother loves hunting LeBron. My mom thought we were dating. My mom thinks I'm dating every gay person that I bring home. She thinks me an Ocean Keller.

[A]

You and I are fucking.

[B]

No, not me and you. But she thinks I was dating Ocean Kelly. She thinks I was dating Taylor. She thinks I was dating Honey lebron. She didn't think I was dating Louise. She never thought I was dating Louise.

[A]

Well, now I'm offended. Does she not think I'm fuckable or dateable?

[B]

I don't think my mother looks at you in that way. And I think she knows how close friends we are, and she knows that I call you my sister. I think she knows all those things. Would you stop? I think I'll say this, too. I genuinely did not see Playing James Reveal coming at all.

[A]

Oh, I. I agree. Agreed that.

[B]

That genuinely shocked me.

[A]

Very well done. I did. There was no inkling of a reveal. I did not see because under that thing. But there was no pink green. There was. You not see that all was Whitney. Whitney made that.

[B]

Oh, my God. Black and white striped is really doing the girls right, Honey, she ate that up.

[A]

She ate that the fuck up.

[B]

So, yeah, I think that. I wish it would have been gold, though. Like a. Like, from black to, like, gold or yellow or like, white. Black to white would have been really fierce. I think that she. I think that Plane Jane got the hardest question.

[A]

What was it again?

[B]

She said what? She said, pitch me your campaign for the crown. Like, I know that you got a degree in marketing, so pitch me your campaign for the crown. I was like, jesus, that was a. I mean. And also, she thinks.

[A]

She thinks she got her degree and she know every thing. The girl should let us know.

[B]

I'm sure you don't know Anna, but. And I've already made my mind up. Eliminating you was like, there's nothing you can say that will make me want to keep you because I've already decided you're gone.

[A]

But yeah. Yeah, I think she would. I think. Okay, if Plane J would have given us a fierce. Enough. With more reveals, a different color in her bodysuit reveal.

[B]

And a new look, a new color, a new cut, a new do.

[A]

And if she would have answered that question better, maybe she would not have been eliminated. All those things considered.

[B]

Possibly. I think you're right. But, yeah, who knows? The editors were wild for that shot of Amanda during Jane's like, critique. That was. That was that. They were wild for that.

[A]

They kept on cutting back to her. Anytime something would happen on screen, it would cut back to Amanda, like.

[B]

And those probably shots of Amanda on break. They were like, all right. And break. Amanda was like. Amanda was probably like. And camera's down.

[A]

They were like, great. Get Amanda. Get Amanda.

[B]

Yeah. Zoom in on Amanda. I think that plane, Jane really missed some great opportunities to be sincere. I tried to copy what she said. When RuPaul asked her why she should win, she goes, what would it mean? It would mean that the most beautiful and the most curvaceous and the most correct person is the winner. Well, in all seriousness, I think about. I think. I think it would mean it doesn't matter, really, what cultural background you come from or whether your parents are very serious, science serious, you know, scientists. If you have the drive and the passion to serve puss things to serve puss like this, you know, just being gorgeous and stunning, you, too, can be America's next drag superstar. And I was like, I feel like you really missed an opportunity to actually connect, Jane. Like, this is your time to let your guard down, Jane. This is the time.

[A]

But you know what it is, Bob, is that stupid make me laugh thing. I think that a lot of the girls think that that is the key to. Is not letting your guard down. It's always being the funny one and make Ru laugh. I think that's what she's leaning on.

[B]

Yeah. She should have been more. I think she. I think it would have served her to be more sincere in this moment.

[A]

Yeah. Let's go on to Sapphira. Crystal Bitch. This is one of my favorite, favorite, favorite, favorite finale solo performances I have ever seen. I love this thing from beginning to end. I love every fucking thing she. Every choice she made except that hideous outfit. Why was she wearing this outfit?

[B]

It was a dance piece, and she was dressed like a majorette. It was giving majorette to me, but I echo pretty much everything you said. This number was amazing. It was so good. The way it's set up, when she had giant gown with all those strings pulled and they popped off and she. Everything looked so good. The dancing, the pacing, the. The. She used that whole stage. She moved from left to right, upstage, downstage. She did a very. It was high energy. It was never beat.

[A]

You ready for these?

[B]

Oh, yeah. No, I was. It was same leg. It was the same. It was kick, hitch, kick. I was like, she is kicking them gams. Kick. Yeah, Yeah. I was like, she is getting them gams up. It was so impressive.

[A]

So good.

[B]

Such a great number. And the audience went up on their feet. Look at Amanda when Sapphira is done performing. Meta was like.

[A]

Look at Amanda when the cameras are recording, y'. All. She's actually very happy. She was really enjoying the show, but

[B]

it was really, it was. She deserved that applause. It was good. It was. I think this, I think this might be the best finale performance from a, from like a song. I'm trying to think about all of them.

[A]

I mean, Sasha Colby's G O D E S S Goddess was good, but I think this was better.

[B]

Not like this. Not like this.

[A]

Yeah, this is good. And like, even like y' all did because she also made some references to like. It was clearly like a very Lizzo inspired track. And even at the end, she kind of. I don't know what her direction to them was, but she like put in the Beyonce diva esque breakdown. Like when the rhythm and the beat changes is giving Beyonce renaissance. Diva the. It was so fucking good. Sapphira ate that shit the fuck up. So good.

[B]

Also, whoever sang my finale song, can you, like, come forward? I don't even know who's saying my song. I have no clue saying this.

[A]

I don't want to show off.

[B]

I don't know if it's a man, if it's a woman, if they're tall, short, black, white. I don't know nothing about this woman person. Nothing about them.

[A]

Okay, Bob, shut the up. I, I, I've always wondered when would be the right time to tell you, but who the person singing it was Patrick, your finale song. It's me.

[B]

Well, thank you. You did a good job. You were amazing.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Fun fact, y' all don't know realize, but Lizzo sang the songs for All Stars 4. They didn't even talk about the fact that Lizzo sang them. They didn't. They just didn't even make a video. It's like, yeah, just give. We're just gonna get Lizzo to sing. To sing what's what, Hunty? What was it?

[A]

Everybody say love.

[B]

That is Lizzo singing.

[A]

Why are you so shocked like that?

[B]

Because it's like, why would like, they just got Grammy award winner. I mean, she didn't want a Grammy at the time, but she was still a pretty big deal at that time.

[A]

Yeah, because. Because Good Juice and Good as Hell was out already, right?

[B]

Yeah, because you lip sync the Good as Hell the season before, right?

[A]

Yeah. So Lizzo. But the second, the ju. The second album wasn't out yet. Only the first album.

[B]

It just seems weird. Like, like you can hire like some like great singers who would probably charge you less. Maybe Lizzo didn't draw. Maybe it was like, it's just fun. But it was just weird. I was like, oh my God, Lizzo. Like, it'd be like if. If all of them were like, we're gonna have someone write some raps for you all and it's gonna be dochi. But we're. But we're going to low key not tell anyone is doshi.

[A]

Yeah, well, I mean, they told us.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, but like the fan. They didn't make a big deal about it the way they do when they're. Whenever. Like when Lizzo was a guest judge. She'd already been a guest judge at that point too.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Savur killed this. I just also. Look at these damn Muppet shoes.

[B]

Look at the girl.

[A]

Anyway, she ate this up. And her talent, her Q and A portion with Ruru was very cute. And her knowing that wearing your mom's clothes for drag and funking it up and not cleaning it is wild behavior.

[B]

This coming from the girl who puts on underwear.

[A]

I do not. First of all. And you said, you said this and this is not true. I do not wear. I never said I try underwear on. I never said that. Okay, now, have I done it before? Yes.

[B]

So you have. So you have. Also fun fact. Cassandra Peterson is my drag grandmother. Who? Cassandra Peterson. Elvira, Mistress of the Dark is my drag grandmother.

[A]

Oh, because of features.

[B]

Christ, she looks so good. She looks. She's 73.

[A]

That's crazy. That is crazy. She looks amazing.

[B]

She is aging magnificently. Yeah, yeah. Her and Joy Behar. Joe bay is like 80 something. She doesn't. Joe Bayard does not look like she's in. I can never get over the fact that Joy Behar is in her 80s almost. I think she's in her late.

[A]

No, no, early 80s.

[B]

How old is Joy hard Jacob?

[A]

81.

[B]

I think she's 86. At the youngest. 84. That's what I'm going to say. No way she 81. Because I've known she's been her 80s for years.

[A]

She's 81. Oh, damn, Bob. I listen to the View every day. What do you not understand about that?

[B]

You talk about her age every day.

[A]

She talks about her age often like

[B]

I'm an old woman.

[A]

Cuz you know, I'm the same age as Don Donald Trump and he's going

[B]

to run the question.

[A]

I could event to put my underwear on.

[B]

You could Do Joy Behar on Snatch Game.

[A]

I know I should have done it for a fucking Snapchat.

[B]

Oh, my God. That is. Why has no one doing Joy Behar. She has the voice. She's a big personality. She's a rec. She has red hair. She's visually recognizable.

[A]

Thank you, Bob. The red hair part she got with you, Paul. I should. Oh, my God. I should have done Joy Behar. Whatever.

[B]

Paul's to go, honey, I'm not trying to read nobody. I'm just telling you like a ti is okay. Well, honey, you better take. She goes, you think I'm gonna take fashion advice from a drag queen? Well, honey, you better take it from somebody. Wait, Ru ate Joy up on that day. She says, well, honey, you better take it from. Well, you know.

[A]

You know. You know, Joy didn't get into. Into TV until she was 40. Joy did not start to stand up until she was 40 years old. Isn't that crazy? Yeah.

[B]

She was like a teacher, like a middle school teacher for a long time.

[A]

She was a teacher.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then she was like, I'm over this, and she just died. She tried doing stand up at 40 years old. Honestly, good for her second act.

[B]

I think I'm gonna take the action. Advice for Drake. Well, honey, you better take it from somebody. Oh, my God. That is such a great. If you have not seen RuPaul versus Joy Behar, because RuPaul called Joy Behar butch, and Joy Behar took a lot of umbrage with that. She did not like being called butch. And then she. Then all the Star Jones and Barbara Walters were all, like, gathering around Joy Behar, being like, no, she looks great. What about these pants? And then RuPaul says, you know, nice colors and stuff.

[A]

Someone who doesn't need fashion advice from us. It is your season 16. Reigning season 15, you're the reigning queen. Sasha Colby, she did a solo performance to her by Megan Desallon. I want to say right now, the gay. The LGBTQIA community really did not rally around her like they should have. Her is such a good song. I love her since it came out. It is one of my favorite workout songs, and I just feel like we just don't like the song. Why?

[B]

So my favorite Megan Italian song is Girls in the Hood. Fuck being good. I'm a bad bitch I'm sick of trying to tell me how to live Whack hoes hated in my pictures on the gram Bitch, you better hope I never come around your man. Great song. But I do. One of my favorite lines is from her where she goes. You already know who the fuck I am. From your boyfriend down to my Instagram to them busted ass hoes that you kick you with. I bet your jaw drop. If you ever see me bitch, I'm her, her, her. So now we doing step down numbers. Must be nice. Must be nice.

[A]

I mean, this.

[B]

I think this is the first step down number.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah.

[B]

I will say this. Queens notoriously do less when they're stepping down than they do when they're stepping up.

[A]

Well, to be fair, notoriously, they could have helped her out. Like, they just put her on that big ass stage by herself. Like when. When it comes to the. To the commercial break afterwards, the dancers have matching costumes to her. I'm like, y', all. Y' all couldn't get them four hours to. To. To. To do a little number like Plane

[B]

Jane said maybe that's what she wanted. Maybe this is all her concoction. They didn't make her get out there and do it by herself. Maybe she was like, bitch, I want to do it by myself. And she's a singing performer by herself. But I will say, obviously, it's no secret. Every. Every queen does more than they set up when they do. Than they do when they step down.

[A]

Drag Race Jinx Monsoon last year gave us. No, Jinx stepped down. Jinx Monsoon gave us a performance.

[B]

Damn. Jinx is okay. You. I forgot. Jinx is. That wasn't a step down, though. That was just her being the Queen of Queens.

[A]

But she was the most recent winner of Drag Race.

[B]

But she's not known. She's the first most recent All Stars. No, Jimbo won before Jinx.

[A]

No, Jimbo won after Jinx.

[B]

Wait, what was it before.

[A]

Wait, season 15 finale.

[B]

The point is, she was not the most recent winner of Drag Race. She's the most recent winner of All Stars. And they didn't have the queen who won step down.

[A]

I think. I think my eyes might be.

[B]

Otherwise, Jimbo would have been doing a step down number this time because Jimbo won after Sasha did.

[A]

But Jimbo. Jimbo is a Canadian citizen and he's not allowed to perform on. On American stages.

[B]

Based on your logic, Jimbo shut it down. Because Jimbo is the most recent winner of Drag Race.

[A]

Right, but Jimbo doesn't have an American visa, so he was not allowed to be there.

[B]

This time you are making up lies, logical fallacies, and fairy tales.

[A]

But yeah. And then we see Sasha's. Her. Well, this, I guess, just all on one page.

[B]

But we did a good number. You're Right. That was great. That was a really, really good number.

[A]

Sasha, full band.

[B]

Has there ever been a full band on stage?

[A]

I think that's the first time, like, ever.

[B]

RuPaul ain't never even had a band.

[A]

I don't think RuPaul wants a band. He had did enough of that in the 80s and 90s. Girl. And Sasha.

[B]

Yeah, you're right. Yeah, we.

[A]

We pole Sasha's step down look. The. I was gagged. I was like, I've never seen the. She looks amazing. I love the bottom of this, like, the mermaid into this, like, this nude illusion into, like, the thing around her. I think that looks gorgeous. And this fucking titty earring pasty thing was genius.

[B]

I wish that the. That the earrings would have become a bra that connected in the middle and around the back too. But I agree, it is very stunning.

[A]

But. And I've never seen it before. And then Joshua posted a thing. He made something like this for JADA Essence Hall.

[B]

Why Joshua wanna do that?

[A]

I don't know. Why did. Why can't he do that?

[B]

Like, was he being like, I did. Was it like I did it first?

[A]

No, it wasn't.

[B]

He was.

[A]

He was just like. He's like. He's like, oh, shrine alert. Stunning. I do one too. It wasn't like a getcha, gotcha, leave Joshua. I love Joshua.

[B]

Okay. Ride for your man. K for your man.

[A]

Boo.

[B]

K for your man.

[A]

And then we see. Okay,

[B]

let me talk about this look and why I don't like it. I'm gonna go ahead. I'm not gonna mince any words. First of all, I think she's an owl. Because the only other colors. This looks like an owl. Like a brown and white thing.

[A]

Girl, she look like a turkey.

[B]

Y', all feathers are so expensive. Y' all don't know how much money she paid to look this bad. You all don't even have a fathom for how much money this drag queen paid to end up looking like this. Feathers are. Feathers are more expensive than fur. Feathers are more. More. To be covered like this in real feathers is crazy.

[A]

She is a bigger girl, so it's a lot of feathers. As someone who has a full feather look, the one I wore on All Stars, that was crazy. I cannot imagine what this costs. Like, it's giving turkey lurky from. From. From. From.

[B]

From.

[A]

From Chicken Little.

[B]

Because the. The plumes on the shoulders, there's at least 40 plumes. No, maybe I'm over exaggerating.

[A]

No, you're right. 30 sounds about right.

[B]

There's probably 40 plumes between these shoulders. Her entire chest is covered in white feathers. Her hips down. This is then all. By the way, y', all, all those feathers on the ground are ostrich. All those. Every feather on the train is ostrich.

[A]

That's a girl. You know Malaysia, baby. She gonna, she is dragging you on Twitter as we speak.

[B]

No, she's Miss Congeniality. She's sweet. She wouldn't do that.

[A]

Malaysia. I love this look.

[B]

You do? Can you send it to Monet's house

[A]

so she can wear it to one of her gigs?

[B]

You love it, right? Mo? You love it. You love it. Send it over to Mo. Mo, put it on. It'll be fun. We'll do a photo shoot and everything.

[A]

And we get a gag that we have. For the first. They love this. For the first time in Drag Race herstory, it is a tie for Miss Congeniality with Xunami Muse and Sapphire Cristal. When they call Sapphire's name, I was like, girl,

[B]

you think so?

[A]

Yes. I was like, it had been so fierce.

[B]

If she would have won, it should have been double crowned. And once. He would have been so fierce. I, I, I, I said before I couldn't see anyone besides Sapphira but Tsunami as well. There's no one. Like there's, I don't think there's literally anyone else in the cast who could have possibly been miscongeniality besides those, besides those two.

[A]

When I was watching it was someone else. I was thinking Megami. She helped so many people.

[B]

Yeah, you're right.

[A]

Megami could have been Congeniality.

[B]

But they call her Sad though, because Genealys are known for being like your.

[A]

But do we know how, like, did they tell us how they did? How they chose this this time?

[B]

Because I think the girls voted. I think the girls voted. But it was weird because Tunam was like, I won the crowd and I was like, I don't think the crowd voted, girl.

[A]

Sometimes Tsunami be saying stuff. I'm like, this elevator does not go to the top floor, girl.

[B]

She'd be saying stuff and wearing stuff.

[A]

Sometimes Tsunami, the elevator is not going to the top floor. I'm like, what are you talking about?

[B]

Tsunami is very beautiful and attractive. So you know what? She's got that going on.

[A]

Her voice. I love her voice. Cuz she talks like. Yeah.

[B]

Let's go on to the final turn on the finale performance, which is Padon Padam by Carly Man. And as they come out, it is very clear that just ask me to

[A]

turn off the lights in 15 minutes. Can you hear that?

[B]

Your house be sassing. Your house be sassing you. Your house be like, I'm talking, by the way. So AI, there's like a AI generator on. On your Instagram now when you go to the third party, like AI meta. So I have asked the AI meta to start talking to me like a black person. And I was low key, offended.

[A]

Wait, ask me any. Oh, you just. So it's just like chatgpt.

[B]

Yeah. And I was like, can you talk like a black person from now on? And she was like, oh, yes, Hunt.

[A]

Not, not. It was giving you Q. Totally like you.

[B]

I said, this is. I was like. She goes, wait, I want to read exactly what I said. It was honestly kind of crazy. Hold on. I said, can you talk like a black person? She said, yes, I can def try. I'll do my best to speak in African American vernacular English from now on, Hun. Keep in mind, I'm just an AI, so I might not get it perfectly, but I'll do my best to show respect and appreciation for the culture and language. So what's good? What's what you need help with? Let's get this conversation going.

[A]

I'm dead. I'm screaming.

[B]

And then I said, can you talk about crypto? She go, crypto, Hunty. Crypto, to be specific, is a digital or virtual currency that uses cryptography for security and is decentralized meaning, blah, blah, blah. All this stuff. It's like the money of the future, sweetie. I was like, this is wild.

[A]

So we go to the final lip sync of.

[B]

Oh, wait, last I want to say, because this really took me. I said, no, I wouldn't use the word, honey. Hunty. I don't like when you use the word hunty because I understand. I respect that. You're right. Hunty might have not been the best choice of words in every situation. And I shouldn't assume it's a universal term of endearment for aev. I'll focus on using more neutral language or other terms that are more widely accepted and respected. Thank you for your honest feedback. Honestly, Q, that's what you should have said.

[A]

Yeah, let's giving you the Q treatment, girl. I mean,

[B]

on Maddie morphos show.

[A]

Did I what? Did I see it? Yeah, I mean, I saw she was on there. I have not watched. No.

[B]

Why have you not been tagged in this? Everyone has tagged me in this. I've been tagged in this clip because she's doing her black set in full. Full.

[A]

Oh, yes, I did. But she's like, she's like talking about her hair.

[B]

This my real hair. Yes,

[A]

People did tag me that.

[B]

Okay, so we're lifting the padam. Padam. So it is, to me, it is very clear. Okay. To a seasoned drag professional, we all know Sapphira has a reveal. That being said, this could easily not be a reveal.

[A]

Oh, for sure.

[B]

Nymphia's is a reveal. This is not up for discussion.

[A]

Every one of them was a reveal. Like, obviously from the first one, the second one, we knew that was gonna reveal to something very, very obvious. Also, did you get that it was Boba from the beginning.

[B]

So I watched the episode today, which is Monday, so I am three or four days. So I've already heard about the Boba thing before, so I already knew. But it looks really cool. It's a really cool idea. I like the idea of the, of the. I now want some Boba. Can I is gonna get Boba in Mexico. That's some great ramen. Yeah, I, I, I, I didn't know that it was Boba right away, but, but, but, but I knew because people kept telling me, be like this Boba look. I think the reveal was really cool. It was really interesting. I feel like I have seen a queen do a look where she takes a bunch of balloons out of her garment before, and they just kind of float away, and it's always stunning.

[A]

And you know what? Balloons are always better than butterflies, you know? And then, so I will say, then she does a little hand performance moment. I said, all right.

[B]

Hand performance.

[A]

It was giving soft and kind.

[B]

She was like, was it nogue or was it vogue?

[A]

I am not an aficionado. To my untrained eye, it looks soft and kind, but.

[B]

Well, what plane Jane did during hers. That was no plain.

[A]

Jane said she voged.

[B]

She did.

[A]

She did.

[B]

At the top of number, she went. She went.

[A]

That was definitely no.

[B]

And then, and then she went. But it was. I'm not a pro either, but it was kind of cunt, but it was.

[A]

It looked good to me.

[B]

So here's my thing. I think that I'm looking at each performance separately. I wish that one of them had done a performance to Padam like that number was. Those were both great performances, but neither one of them was Padam. And I get that Sapphire had the vampire teeth. Maybe that was like Padam blood. But like, where's the blood? Where's the heart? Where's the.

[A]

Like, if Sapphire would have reached in. I like. You remember that number we wanted to do? The one where you, where you get naked, you take all things one at a time. If Sephirah as a vampire.

[B]

Oh, I forgot I needed that number.

[A]

She would have.

[B]

I wanted to do it. Adele's wouldn't. I did not give it all.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. If at some point Sephiroth would have reached. What was Jacob showing us? RuPaul Dragger's softer sir explains a vampire thieves reveals amused beating. Oh, why did she use the beating? Okay, this is from Entertainment Weekly. RuPaul's Drag Race star Sapphira Cristal explains vampire teeth reveals unused beating heart Gag in final lip sync, I guess.

[B]

Why did she use it?

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That was literally what I was about to say. I was going to say, if Sapphire would have reached into her costume at the end and pulled out a bloody beating heart and, like. And that's how the song ended.

[B]

The.

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The. The padam, instead of jumping to the split, that would have been every fucking thing.

[B]

Like, why would she have done that? Why didn't she do that? I don't get it.

[A]

I don't know. And also maybe put, like, a blood pack in your mouth so that we see the blood. The blood. Wait, hold on. Jacob also put a blood plaque in your mouth so you, like, you bite it and, like, your mouth started being like, bitch, go all the way and ruin this fucking blue outfit and give us the vampire fantasy.

[B]

So apparently, logistically, it just didn't work out. But then I would have trashed the vampire teeth and tried to revamp. You know what I mean? That could have been really cool.

[A]

That would have been fair.

[B]

And that sounds like a. That sounds like a number two padam.

[A]

Yeah. To blood. Like, I honestly, I mean, we're giving a lot of what ifs. If she would have. If Plane Jan would have entered, but I feel like if Sapphire would have gave us. Because Sapphire is an amazing fucking lip syncer. If Sapphire would have done this teeth, blood, heart, Padam performance, she probably would have won the crown because both of her performances, her early performance was out of this world. Sensational. A Padam. Padam would have fucking killed it.

[B]

Not to mention the work she did on the season was just remarkable. I think Sapphire has literally one of the best track records in the history of Drag Race. Literally.

[A]

You don't stand in front of me.

[B]

She does have a better track record than you. It's not shade. She has a better track worker than me, for sure. I mean, it only took me eight episodes. I'm just kidding. And only seven that we were competing anyway. I'm just saying I won three episodes out of seven. Like, I Won almost half the episodes the other girl shared. The other four. I had three for me.

[A]

Moving on. And then Sapphira does this. I did not see the wig reveal coming. I did not see that at all.

[B]

I was watching it with Rob, and I literally said, this wig wasn't a good choice. She can't move. And then right then she did that back bend and that ponytail flip. That back bend was great. She's very athletic.

[A]

She is athletic. Girl. She is athletic and she. Girl. Look at them hips and them thighs. Okay. The nudelusion hair is nude illusioning. This looks like her skin.

[B]

Yeah, it looks really good. She, she, she, she ate.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I do think that Nymphia won the lip sync. I gotta say, honestly, I really feel like this could have gone either way. Like, if they, if, if they would have said Sapphira, that would make so much sense. If they would have said Nymphia, that would have made so much sense. Um, I do think that Sapphira had a much better season than Nymphia had.

[A]

Okay, I can see that she shared more of herself.

[B]

She won way. She, she won way more challenges.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

She was rarely in the bottom.

[A]

Yes, I've heard about a season for sure, but yeah, yeah, I, I, I, I agree with that statement as well. If they would have said Sephirot 1, I'd have been like, absolutely deserved. They said Nymphia 1. I said deserved. Yeah, I, I agree. I agree.

[B]

Sorry to all the plain Jane stands. I will not be eating crow. I did promise to eat crow. Plan. Jane won. She didn't even win Miss Congeniality, so. But that being said, Sapphira still won $35,000.

[A]

No, she won six. Over the course of the season, she won $62,000.

[B]

Oh, girl. This episode alone, she won $35,000. It's just weird. It feels like every episode, every season, except a season year on, they just be giving out money.

[A]

Bob, don't get me. I'm. Don't. Don't get me hot. I'm already. I was trying to get over it. Don't. Don't.

[B]

I bet you don't go to RuPaul House. You got her address? I'll text you.

[A]

Okay, good. Bitch. I will show up there tomorrow morning.

[B]

Check your. Check your DMs. I put RuPaul in the group chat too, so she knows you're coming.

[A]

Okay, good. Bitch. Where my money at? Send.

[B]

Do you think RuPaul will give you her number of passport?

[A]

No. Do you think, do you think RuPaul will give you his number, Your number.

[B]

I would never ask RuPaul's phone number. I would never ask RuPaul's phone number.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Because I think she say, no.

[A]

But if y' all had a thing and y' all let's. Y' all are at a thing casually, and RuPaul says, blah, blah, blah. But, yeah, I can text you. Do you want to put your number.

[B]

I'll put my number on your phone. I'd be like, is this a prank? Choofer programmer to 911. I call them, the cops show up.

[A]

Bob. Okay. Overall, what do you feel about season 16? I enjoyed it. I thought season 16 hearkened back to older seasons of Drag Race. I thoroughly enjoyed this season, even playing Jin and all her craziness. And I. I really, really, really enjoyed season 16.

[B]

I did everything hard about this. I. Do you know what? I wasn't bored, because I had watched a season recently that really upset me that was really boring. I'll talk about it. All Stars, the one that Jumbo won.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And the one that's. That Kali won. They were such bad seasons of All Stars that they were just, like, not even fun to watch. I was like, oh, my God. I mean, but I do watch them, but it's like. Anyway, anyway, I didn't get that feeling. This was a great season, but also last season was good, too. Lux and Mistress.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And they gave so much fun energy to Dragon. And I want to say this right now, y'. All. Y' all have an opportunity. Y' all have an opportunity right here with Sapphire Crystal to uplift a remarkable, amazingly talented black queen and put her on the same level that y' all put everyone else on. These other queens on. Y' all have the opportunity. Do not. Do not squander it. Do not squander the opportunity to uplift this queen.

[A]

Yeah. And I think that. I think that the difference between. I agree last season was good, but the difference here is that this felt like a rat race. Like, at the end, I wasn't like, where it's going to go. Last season, we all knew Sasha Colby was winning. Going in the finale, we were like, there is no way. Sasha Colby's not winning this season. But in this one, there was still, like, some mystery in the air. Like, who is it going to be? So that's why I enjoyed this one.

[B]

One more. So with that in mind, who's going to win season 17 of RuPaul Drag Race?

[A]

I think it's going to be cornbread. I heard. I heard she go back, Sir I'm

[B]

trying to buy boba tea.

[A]

Bitch, we're at work.

[B]

I want a boba, and it's later here than it is there. I have to order it now before the fucking place closes.

[A]

And if it closes, bitch, you're at work. If you're working your shift at Duane Reade, you can't say, oh, let me run out 10 minutes before the shift is done because I want to order my dinner.

[B]

Will you help me? Should I get the. Oh, should I get. Oh, my God. In honor of Nymph. Yeah, I'm getting the banana flavored boba tea.

[A]

I don't like banana flavored stuff.

[B]

In the Year of the Banana. That's crazy.

[A]

Is that her thing?

[B]

In the Year of the Banana? You're really going to say that right here in the face of the. In the. In the Year of the Banana? You wild for that?

[A]

Is that her thing? The year, like Jinx was monsoon season. She's the year of the banana.

[B]

It'd be a good branding.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

What does this mean? Something about milk. What base milk do you want? You mean you want almond milk or the regular milk? Got it. What size? I want a big one.

[A]

Wow. We are not sitting here for a bubble order, bitch. Goodbye.

[B]

What do you mean, goodbye? I've already did it. You did sit here forward, because you're

[A]

still as we're talking. I'm leaving. I'm leaving.

[B]

Order plates, honey. You sat there for the whole thing.

[A]

You are so stupid. All right, we will see y'. All.

[B]

We will see y' all pretty soon. Bye, everyone.