Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race S16E9 "See You Next Wednesday" Review

Summary

Sibling Watchery: RuPaul’s Drag Race S16E9 “See You Next Wednesday” Review

Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
Air Date: March 6, 2024

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Episode Overview

In this episode of Sibling Watchery, Bob and Monét break down RuPaul's Drag Race Season 16, Episode 9 ("See You Next Wednesday"), a design challenge with a goth theme inspired by Wednesday Addams. The duo brings their signature banter, deep knowledge of Drag Race, and hilarious hot takes as they discuss the episode's events, the queen's performances and looks, and larger conversations around mental health and editing. As always, they dissect the runway with candid, funny, and sometimes controversial opinions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Episode and Challenge Name

• [00:00-01:19]
  • The episode and runway are titled "See You Next Wednesday," referencing both Wednesday Addams and the phrase "See You Next Tuesday" (code for “cunt”).
  • Bob finds the naming clever: “Maybe the writer strike was over right by this time.” (A, 00:04)

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2. Emotional Fallout from the Last Elimination

• [02:27-03:45]
  • Queens are more emotionally affected by eliminations this season, especially after Xunami’s departure.
  • Monét: “This season especially, these girls seem to be really, really going through when someone goes home. Like, they are practically having a full funeral...” (B, 02:34)
• Bob recounts past times she cried for departing queens but doesn’t remember the mood being this heavy on her season.

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3. Track Records & “Better Runs” Debate

• [03:54-05:09]
  • Twitter drama: Bob mentions a tweet comparing her track record to Plane Jane’s, triggering a debate on what qualifies as a "better run."
  • Bob: “I do not think that Plane Jane's gonna have a better run than me... but I could be wrong.” (A, 04:57)
  • Monét: “Can we do a bet?... Like, would you eat crow?” (B, 05:09)
• Bob agrees to eat crow (literally) if Plane Jane wins the season with more than three challenge wins and never lands in the bottom.

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4. Mental Health, Conservatorships & Britney Spears

• [05:42-10:10]
  • Brief detour into a serious conversation about mental health, Wendy Williams’ dementia, and the ethics of conservatorships.
  • Bob: “I think you should be allowed to have a little bit of mental problems and still be free... just because you have mental problems doesn't mean that you can't be free and that you don't get to have ownership of your IP and your image.” (A, 07:04)
  • The hosts compare how mental health is treated differently for celebrities like Britney Spears, with Monét arguing that “conservatorships seem like a broken system.”
• The conversation pivots back to Drag Race: “Maybe Dawn should be in the conservatorship for her mouth this season.” (B, 10:12)

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5. Fallout & Drama in the Workroom

• [10:12-16:24]
  • Sapphira’s emotionality and helper edit; Plane Jane expresses emotions not typically seen from her.
  • Dawn tells Nymphia she's surprised she wasn’t in the bottom for Snatch Game—Bob labels this “little villain behavior.”
  • The queens discuss the elimination order feeling “spot on,” with weaker performers (like Dawn and Morphine) likely to be next out.

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6. On Design Challenges & Skill Sets

• [16:24-18:05]
  • Discussion on frequent design challenges this season—Monét complains: “I would be so irritated... I don't need three design challenges!” (B, 16:44)
  • Preference for designing over sewing, wishing for “stitchers” like in Project Runway.

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7. Workroom Antics: Strategy, Help & Villainy

• [18:05-24:38]
  • Plane Jane is accused of mind-gaming competitors and discouraging others from using similar fabrics.
  • Dawn is painted by Bob as the real “villain” due to giving unsolicited advice.
  • Nymphia requests fabric help from Jane, but Jane seems selective about when she helps, leading to another round of “helping versus sabotage” debates.

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8. The Maya–Sapphira Sewing Controversy

• [26:25-31:43]
  • Widespread debate over how much Sapphira helped Maya construct her dress.
  • Bob: “If making a dress is three parts, designing, cutting it and then sewing it together...Sapphira low key did two out of three.” (A, 28:56)
  • Bob references past drag queens helping each other (“Me and Thorgy helped Derrick Barry make her outfit in season 8...”).

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9. Runway Breakdown: “See You Next Wednesday” (Goth Theme)

Guest Judge: Kaia Gerber

• The hosts praise Kaia’s look and critiques.

Runway Looks & Critiques: (Timestamps: 32:55–46:39)

• Plane Jane:

  • Solid, but “bottom of the tops.”
  • Bob: “When everything is black, you just lose a lot. You lose dimension.” (A, 33:19)

• Maya Iman:

  • Weak, “plain” dress with “crows on the shoulder” trope.
  • Monét: “Maya loves putting a choker or a feather or something on her neck to let us know how short it is.” (B, 34:14)
  • Bob: “I do think that her bottom placement is quite justified.” (A, 34:47)

• Dawn:

  • Praised for using “fluid dynamics” in her design.
  • Monét: “I loved her eye makeup. It was, again, because it's so different than her regular...” (B, 37:33)
  • Bob: “She really pads for the gods.” (A, 38:04)

• Morphine:

  • Good, but “top of the middle.”
  • Bob: “...the only look that I think [is] worse than hers are the two girls in the bottom...this look is not bad...just, the competition is stiff.” (A, 39:08)
  • Monét disagrees; thinks she deserved to be higher.

• Plasma:

  • The weakest look, ill-fitting wig, confusing styling.
  • Bob: “This necklace and this hair are just making me want to rip my eyes out.” (A, 41:32)
  • Monét: “She looks God awful.” (B, 40:44)

• Sapphira Cristál:

  • Stunning, although the “helper” edit continues.
  • Bob: “I love this look. I think she looks stunning. I would wear this.” (A, 42:03)

• Nymphia:

  • Praised for her Morticia Addams-inspired look, great craftsmanship.
  • Monét: “Nymphia really knocks it out of the park again. She looks really, really, really good.” (B, 44:06)
  • Bob: “...once she took the veil off, this look is absolutely, absolutely stunning.” (A, 43:20)

• Q:

  • Very strong look, more “club kid” than goth but admired for creativity and construction.
  • Bob: “Craftsmanship wise, this is hands down the best thing on the stage...but I would have given the win to Nymphia.” (A, 45:09)
  • Monét: “This neo goth situation...a new way to imagine goth.” (B, 46:39)

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10. Judging, Bottom Three & Lip Sync

• [47:08-51:17]
  • Maya is read for needing help, but the hosts dismiss complaints from other queens: “Why are you annoyed that Sapphira helped Maya?...there was no negative recourse whatsoever.” (A, 47:08)
  • Bottom three: Morphine, Maya, Plasma (hosts agree it's correct).
  • Lip Sync: Maya vs. Plasma to Lady Gaga’s “Bloody Mary” (TikTok version). Maya dominates with high-energy performance but does a confusing “wig reveal” into a beanie/cap that sends the hosts into fits:
    • “[I] have never seen a wig reveal into a beanie before. That is the funniest thing that's been said all season.” (A, 52:04)

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11. Lip Syncs: Track Record vs. “Lip Sync for Your Life”

• [56:45-59:43]
  • Debate on whether overall performance or lip sync should determine elimination:
    • Monét: “At that point, it's the lip sync that is determining who's going on next, not your track record.” (B, 59:18)
    • Bob: “There does come a point in the season where...considering track record actually does make sense because you’re wondering who has more to offer..."

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12. Exit of Plasma

• [60:09-62:13]
  • Plasma is unbothered and calm in her exit, delivers a poetic farewell.
  • Bob: “Preparing an exit line is crazy. I will die on this hill.” (A, 61:32)

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13. Predictions & Closing Thoughts

• [62:13–end]
  • Only seven queens remain. Both hosts expect either Maya or Morphine to be the next out, with Maya “excelling at sending people home.”
  • They’re surprised Plasma left before top five.
  • Bob: “I think Plasma is really fun. I love that she is cheesy and that she's corny...I actually think that is cool.” (A, 63:37)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On the show’s emotional toll:

• “These girls seem to be really, really going through when someone goes home. Like, they are practically having a full funeral...” (Monét, 02:34)

On “Help” in the Workroom:

• “If making a dress is three parts, designing, cutting it and then sewing it together…Sapphira low key did two out of three.” (Bob, 28:56)

On fashion and attention to detail:

• “This necklace and this hair are just making me want to rip my eyes out.” (Bob, on Plasma’s look, 41:32)
• “A lovely incendiary comment from Plane Jane. How unexpected.” (Plasma, recounted by Bob, 24:38)

On Maya's Lip Sync Reveal:

• “I have never seen a wig reveal into a beanie before. That is the funniest thing that's been said all season.” (Bob, 52:04)

On exit lines:

• “Preparing an exit line is crazy. I will die on this hill.” (Bob, 61:32)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00 – Episode Title & Challenge Name
• 02:27 – Emotional Fallout from Eliminations
• 03:54 – Bob’s “Better Run” Twitter Debate
• 05:42 – Mental Health & Conservatorship Tangent
• 10:12 – Fallout in the Workroom, Dawn as "Villain"
• 16:24 – Design Challenge Fatigue
• 18:05 – Jane’s Workroom Strategy
• 26:25 – Maya/Sapphira Sewing Controversy
• 32:55 – Runway Critiques Begin
• 47:08 – Judges’ Comments, Maya Help Drama
• 50:58 – Lip Sync: Maya vs. Plasma
• 52:04 – The Iconic “Beanie” Wig Reveal
• 56:45 – Lip Sync vs. Track Record Debate
• 60:09 – Plasma’s Exit
• 62:51 – Next Out Predictions

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Final Thoughts

A classic Watchery episode: the queens, their track records, and their looks are dissected with humor, shade, and genuine analysis. Emotional highs and lows are celebrated and critiqued, and the importance of both technical skill and TV narrative editing is acknowledged. Bob and Monét’s chemistry and the episode’s blend of camp, realness, and Drag Race lore makes it a must-listen for any fan of the show.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

See you next Wednesday, because see you

[A]

next Tuesday is cunt. But see you next Wednesday is because they're doing goth, and Wednesday is goth.

[B]

That's the name of the challenge.

[A]

The challenge is called cnx. The whole, the whole episode is called CNX Wednesday. And the Runway challenge was See you next Wednesday. Yeah, the Runway theme, you know, you know how they have. They have titles like, like, yeah, I

[B]

guess I missed that. I just.

[A]

Was it. What was the one on your season with the. There was one that I really love. There was a really clever name of a ch. Of a Runway on your season that I was like, oh, I, I can't remember.

[B]

I must have which one?

[A]

10, 4, or 7 on 10. There was one. I was like, oh, what a clever name. But, I mean, I, I, I can't remember. I just remember thinking to myself, oh, someone really ate with that, with the name of that challenge. How's your day, Monet? Well, not your day, but how, how did you feel about this episode of Rupal's Drag Race?

[B]

I thought it was a good episode of Drag Race. I mean, to be honest, durian design challenge, there isn't a lot I like the end of a design challenge. I don't always love druing because there's not really much going on, people. There are little things going on here and there, but the drama is pretty tame. I think design episodes are usually pretty Tame. But I thought it was a good episode, and I thought the girls came up with some really creative ideas.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And starting off at the top of the episode, I'm trying to. I don't remember if maybe I'm just so. From season 10, but, like, I don't ever remember being so upset or so wrecked over someone going home. And like, I mean, these. This season especially, these girls seem to be really, really going through when someone goes home. Like, they are practically having a full funeral that. That. That Azunami had to go home. Like, and even they get into, like, just sitting on the couch and Sapphira is still crying, and I'm like, oh, my God.

[A]

I remember crying really hard over a few. A few departures.

[B]

Thorgy.

[A]

No, I didn't cry over Thorgi's departure, but I cried for Acid Betty pretty hard. And even though it was on tv, I did cry for she. Devane going home. And that was probably it, to be honest. And I think I was upset when Cynthia Lee Fontaine went home too.

[B]

Yeah. These girls seems to be. Almost every other week. Every week they're taking there. Seems to be taking it really hard. But this week, Tsunami must have been really loved. I mean, Plane Jane, they had the little thing thing, a lingaling, and she's really upset. And I just didn't realize. Oh, well, not that I didn't realize, but Morphine and Zami, they're like. They were. They were the best of friends at Drag Race.

[A]

So real good, Judy's honey. Real good, Judy. And I want to read my favorite tweet from the. My favorite Twitter interaction this week was someone said.

[B]

Someone just.

[A]

I, like, threw some shade at Plain Jan online. And someone says, clearly you're mad that Matt Sl. That plan has a far better run than you. And I was like, this is. This is camp. Like, that's. That's pretty camp. I mean, I. I won, like, three challenges within seven episodes, which means I had almost half the wins, and the entire rest of the cast shared the other half. So I was like, but yeah, sure, maybe she did.

[B]

Maybe her. Maybe her run's better than mine. So if Plane. So if Plane wins another challenge, wins the season and is never in the bottom, would you say she had a better run than you?

[A]

I would say if Plane was able to get three or more challenge wins within eight episodes. Yes, I would say so. And I got my three challenge wins by the seventh episode.

[B]

But would her get. Would her having three challenges, three wins for the season, and never being the bottom and winning the season would That I think not being the bottom. Cause you were. Would make her have a better run. But that's. But I don't think it's likely that Plane Jane is going to win. But I think that would. That would be having a better run. She had three challenges.

[A]

I do not think that Plane Jane's gonna have a better run than me. I don't know for sure, but I have a sneaking suspicion that my run on Drag Race will have been better than playing Jane's when it's all said and done. But I could be wrong. I've been wrong. I've been wrong about things in my life, for sure.

[B]

Can we. Can we do a bet? Can we. If you. If Plane Jane ends up having a better run than you, would you eat crow? Like an actual.

[A]

Literally a better run. She has. First of all, you have to win the show to have a better run than me.

[B]

I know. I'm saying is she wins three challenges.

[A]

If Plane Jane wins more than three challenges or wins the challenges and never in the bottom, and she wins the season and wins the season. Yes, I will eat a crow. Literally bake. I'm happy to broil. I don't care how it's cooked. I'll eat it raw.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Raw.

[B]

You heard it here, y'. All.

[A]

I'm not gonna be like Wendy Williams eating crow. By the way. Wendy Williams is so sad. What's going on with Wendy Williams? She has frontal lobe dementia, same as Bruce Willis.

[B]

And she has aphasia and dementia.

[A]

Yeah, no, aphasia is a. Aphasia is one of the first symptoms of frontal lobe dementia, which is when you kind of can't remember the names of things.

[B]

You know, we.

[A]

When words. Just very, very common words that you definitely know for sure kind of just. You're like. You're like, oh, this is. What do you call this thing when you. You talking to it and it.

[B]

I mean, when do you literally do that? Every episode.

[A]

But I think aphasia. I think aphasia is a little more advanced than just not being able to call the name. I think fascia is, like, a much more advanced version of that. And I mean, let me just quickly Google aphasia, which is honestly a beautiful name. If it didn't mean what it meant, it'd be a really beautiful name. Loss of ability to understand or express. Caused by brain damages. Specifically when it's caused by brain damage.

[B]

Yeah. So she has aphasia and she's has dementia. It's. Honestly, it's very sad. In this documentary, there's something when you, when you see these things, I mean this probably a rivalry topic but like you know, we also. The free Britney movement and then Britney is free and then she look crazy as hell. So you kind of, it's so hard to gauge like what. But again, conservatorships. I was, I got into like a conservatorship hole and reading about those and these guardianships and how, and how 90% of people in them can't get out and how they're bad for them. It's like so many, it's like so many things. It seems like a broken system.

[A]

I think you should be. Yeah, it is a broken system, but I think you should be allowed to have a little bit of mental problems and still be free. Like, just because you have mental problems doesn't mean that you, you can't be free and that you don't get to have ownership of your IP and your image.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Even if you do have mental problems,

[B]

my thing is they're like, you do

[A]

have something going on.

[B]

It's like an event that happens. Like, oh, you can't be trusted anymore. Like I'm so, I'm so intrigued by like what is like, it's like a one event that happens. They're like, yep, you're done. Now we have to regard.

[A]

Speaking conservatorships are not really put on people as young as Britney Spears. Typically speaking, a conservatorship is for someone who has severe mental disabilities. Maybe someone who has like, like, what do you call it when you can't communicate? Autism, Non verbal autism maybe. Maybe someone who has dementia, maybe someone who, who has severe brain damage. But it's not typically for people like Britney Spears. That's why I think the world was so shocked by Britney Spears's.

[B]

But now we're seeing, we're like, oh, maybe we really don't. Because you know Brittany B. Out in these streets and like, but

[A]

like what's she doing? Honestly, in all honesty, what is she doing that's just so crazy? Like getting naked on Instagram, waving knives around like, like, is that that crazy?

[B]

I think visually it looks like there's something like that that's not all together there. And she look like. And she looks, and the state that she's keeping herself doesn't look seem to be like someone who is mentally all there with it. You know what I mean?

[A]

And that might, yeah, I think that might have a lot to do with a lot of the stigma that we've created around Britney Spears to believe that she is crazy to believe that she is up to believe that she's not. Well, so stuff that Britney Spears doing that everyone else will be doing. Like, a lot of people do the same thing. Dancing with knives, getting. Showing their vaginas and their titties on. On Instagram. Same things folks do all the time. No one calls them crazy. But we have been told that Britney Spears is crazy. So everything that she does is. We're like, it's because she's crazy.

[B]

I don't. I don't think that's true. I mean, Wendy Williams people do what Wendy Williams do all the time. They drink, they forget stuff. I mean, she has a mental thing. And apparently Britney Spears also has mental disabilities that were. That were sealed. So we're so we. So we can't know what they are. So we don't know what. What Whitney Spears may be suffering for because it's like sealed by the courts. But Wendy's. Wendy's is. Is up. We know what hers are.

[A]

I guess the short end of what I'm saying is I don't think that just because Britney Spears is exhibiting some behavior that we think is problematic or we think is odd that she should. That we're like, maybe she should be in a conservatorship. That's a really slippery slope and it's a great way to take advantage of people just because they're. Just because they're neuro. Divert. Neuro. They're slightly neurodivergent.

[B]

You know, I mean, I mean, do we. Do we know she's neurodivergent?

[A]

When I say neurodiversion, that just means like, there's something in the neurons and something in your brain is not like, neurodiversion doesn't mean autistic.

[B]

I'm not autistic. I'm just a fact that we don't know.

[A]

But if there is something going on in her brain chemistry that's not right. That does not mean that she should be in a conservatorship.

[B]

Yeah, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying Britney just seems like. Anyway, we. We have gone way off topic. We are not even talking about maybe, maybe one of these in the conservative.

[A]

Maybe conservative.

[B]

Dawn should be in the conservative ship for her mouth in this season.

[A]

Girl, not you advocating Britney's conservatorship. Maya feels like Sapphira should have Maya feels like Safira should have won the Snatch Game. And I certainly could see a world where Sapphira won, Sapphire winning and Don winning. Honestly, it could have been from what we saw on tv, it could have been. Yeah, sorry, Sapphira winning or. Or Jane winning. It could have literally been one or the other. Like, it could have literally been one or the other. I could have easily been like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But they're the only two that could have won last week for me.

[B]

Yeah. Agree. Those are the only two worth their salt last week for sure.

[A]

Am I boring you?

[B]

Yes. We are seeing emotion from pj and I feel like this is something we don't see very often. Like, what emotion she saw that she was. She was. She was being emotional about something. It was. I think she was talking about. What was she talking about? Watch this three days ago. But she was. I think she was emotional about. She was doing some emotion in this fallout episode. Y' all watch episode. It's there. I remember watching her being like, well, I never seen PJ show this type of emotion besides a vitriol and vengeance and shade.

[A]

Don gave and told n. Don.

[B]

Oh, about Tsunami. It was about Xunami. She was really emotional about Xunami leaving.

[A]

And then Don went over and told Nymph that she shocked she wasn't in the bottom, which is like, girl, Don, why, why, why, why? Why did you feel the need to offer that information up? Like, she wasn't at the bottom. So, like, walk on by. To quote Dionne Warwick, you know, and then Dawn.

[B]

Oh, dawn was saying that every one of these eliminations from this point on are going to be a gag. And I was like, bitch, why not? If you got eliminated or Morphine, like, y' all don't have no wins. Everybody else has either more than one or a win. So if dawn or Morphine got eliminated at this point, I would have been like, oh, my God, this is a gag. Can't believe this. I was like, she is really thinking high of herself. Come on. All of these. The rest of these emotions are going to be. The rest of the rest of these eliminations are really going to be a gag. It's going to be really crazy to see. Not for you or Morphine.

[A]

I do believe that the Queen's left are very strong. Like, I do believe that. I do genuinely believe. Like, so far, the elimination order is honestly pretty spot on. Like, I genuinely believe that. It's been pretty damn on point for me, you know? Yeah.

[B]

But if it was more from. Or John, I wouldn't be like, oh, my God, I can't believe they're gone. Like, I mean, has dawn outside of design challenges and I'm loving Dawn's personality and dawn is. Honestly, I think she's adding a lot to the season. But outside of the design challenges, has she really like snl? She didn't. And in the. Oh, in the Rusical one, I thought she was actually pretty good.

[A]

I mean, her biggest flop was definitely Snatch Game, right? And then she kind of was middle of the pack in the other performances and the performances, and she's been pretty much top of bottom of the tops in all the designs. So the thing about Donna is she is a good designer. It just happens to be that Nymphia and Q are both better than she is, and she is good. Like, I'm like. I'm like, wow, Don has really good design aesthetics. Oh, really great. She's. But she's always bested by Nymphia and Q. Like, every time they're so.

[B]

So, you know, they're so good.

[A]

So the next day, during the room, RU hints that she gives a hint of this, like, goth theme. Like, what does this mean? What does goth mean? And then they do this. This spit take challenge, which there doesn't really seem to be a metric for this. Like, I don't know what the metric is for, like, how to win. But. But Nymphia wins, and she got $2,500.

[B]

And I wrote, I don't know how.

[A]

I don't know how you win or what the point is because. Because RuPaul's the one making the joke. They're just spitting, right?

[B]

I was like, so it's a challenge who spits? I was like, I don't get the challenge. Are they spitting? Like, I thought they were supposed to spit if. If the joke made them laugh, but they all spit on the first ones. And I was like, oh, is it who spits the furthest? Who has the biggest.

[A]

Well, I will say there is a comedy to reacting to a joke, and Bea Arthur was really good at it. If a joke was made at Dorothy's born access expense on Golden Girls, Bea Arthur's deadpan to camera was as funny, if not funnier than the jokes made at her expense. You know what I mean? So there is. There is an art to it, for sure. Um, interesting challenge, though. Interesting challenge. Nymphia won again. Anyone could have won this. Anyone could have won the time and been like, yeah, sure, give him $2,500.

[B]

Yeah. But I mean, I will say, looking at Nymphia's, there was a nice spray to hers. If you look at when Sapphira spat, it was just, like, two chunks. Two. Like, there was, like, two globs that Came out. Nymphia gave a nice, like, array of spit. There was like a. It was. It was. It was like a. It was like a. It was like a cloud burst. It was very creative, that Nymphia.

[A]

Well, I feel like Sapphire had the only one that was, like, globby. And also, I feel like a good part of a spit take is that you're drinking while someone makes a joke. The point of a spit take is that while it makes you. While you're consuming, you hear a joke and then you bust out laughing. And no one was sipping. Maybe someone was, but I don't remember anyone sipping when RuPaul told the joke.

[B]

Someone did someone. It was like the third or fourth one. Like, they were doing it and it looked like real. Everyone else was like, so whoever that

[A]

was, I think that person should have won. And then once it's all over, Don says straight to camera during her confessional, she is completely confident she will not be going home on a design challenge.

[B]

She's right.

[A]

Which, honestly, I agree. I would have been really shocked if Don went home this episode. Even before I saw anything, I'd have been like, oh, that was really shocking. Especially when we have, like, when we have two queens who notoriously don't sell on. On the. On the episode. Oh, yeah, the two in the bottom.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Don is very confident, and I think she's right. Like, sometimes, bitch, you gotta encourage yourself and know that you are that bitch. And dawn is very good. Honestly, her Balenciaga thing, last design challenge thing was so good, though.

[A]

That fucking copper thing was again, she's always bested, like, her stuff is good, but someone is just a little bit better.

[B]

You know what I mean? Um, Dawn.

[A]

Oh, before you skip over, I want to say before you skip past this, something that Plasma said, she was like, three design challenges in one season. I feel like that happens more often than people. She, like, it happens since season three. It certainly has. And I feel like three design challenges a season is really not that strange. We had three design challenges my season, and we only had eight episodes that. That weren't, like, the last two.

[B]

I'll be mad if it wasn't. I would be so irritated as a design challenge, I would be so upset. I don't need three Design challenges. Season 10. We have season 10. We had one design challenge this season was the sponge situation.

[A]

What about the ball?

[B]

Oh, the ball, sorry. The sponge and the ball. We had two and then All Stars four. We didn't have any, which was amazing.

[A]

Makeover.

[B]

What?

[A]

Oh, but you guys really the outfit's already made for makeover. Yeah. Maggie, you used to have to make your makeover's outfit in the room.

[B]

Yeah. And In All Stars 7, we had two, and I found that to be annoying. I hated that. I hated it. We had two. When the second one, the fucking. The Irish Isles. Whatever the hell. No, I was. It was a Wheel of Fortune ball. Whatever. I hated that. I was like, oh, my. Oh, no. That was the first one.

[A]

I was like, okay.

[B]

We did the one. I remember, like, guys, we had the one design challenge. It's great. And then the RuPaul design one came. I said, oh, my God, girl. Nobody want to do this shit. But it's actually a fun one. I like my.

[A]

You don't like sewing?

[B]

I don't like sewing or designing.

[A]

I like.

[B]

I wish. What I wish is that I could design a thing and they bring out stitchers and they make the thing that I would love.

[A]

That's what Maya did, Honestly.

[B]

That I would love. I get to design it, and someone else put the needle to the thread and make and sew it for me. Fabulous.

[A]

So is Jane trying to get into Plasma's mind? Like, Jane comes over and is talking to Plasma, and she's like, why are you doing. What's going on? It feels like, honestly, because Jane is like, don't use the fabric I'm using, because you're gonna get ate up. Which, honestly, is not bad advice.

[B]

Well, it's literally what happened last time the judges. Law Roach was looking at those two next to each other, and he was like, you came out here in the same fabric as someone did look better than you. Bitch, are you dumb? And that's literally what PJ's pointing out to her. But the real villain is Dawn. Okay, dawn is not. She's not the villain in this.

[A]

No, Don's the real villain. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna lean into that. Don is a real villain.

[B]

Plasma, suck out her. Plasma was seeking her advice. Like, Plasma was like, what do you think? Was Don supposed to lie?

[A]

No, don't. Don's not the villain because of this. Don's the villain because of other things. Don's villains because. Because of. Can I be honest? Don's the villain because she's always giving completely unsolicited advice. Takes that no one asked for. Walking up to Nymphia and being like, I can't believe you weren't in the bottom. Anyway, La. That is little villain behavior.

[B]

She did say that at the beginning to Nymphia. And I mean, not wrong, girl. Nymphia is not doing an amazing job. So. And. And so she's also sharing the sentiments of the other girls. She's like, we were all. Everyone else was like, yeah, girl. Donna's just the messenger.

[A]

Maya. So Maya is obviously nervous because she had to lip sync the last sewing challenge. So she. She's not boding well this episode. She seems to be having a lot of struggle. And then he gets over to Saphir, and Sapphira's like, baby, I don't even know what goth is. Which is a wild take. What do you mean you don't know what goth is?

[B]

Maybe Sapphira didn't grow up with goth. I mean, obviously I know what golf is. Maybe Sapphire. Sapphire's also. Is she, like, really religious?

[A]

I don't know that she is. What high school doesn't have golf kids? I don't know that there is a high school that doesn't. I went to school in Clayton County. My school was almost all black, and we even had golf kids.

[B]

They got.

[A]

Are there high schools that. Are there high schools that don't have golf kids?

[B]

My high school I went to. Also a music theater. I went to an arts high school. We didn't have golf kids.

[A]

There were no golf kids at your high school?

[B]

No, there were no golf. The closest thing we had to golf kids was the four kids that were tech majors because they didn't want to do MT anymore or whatever it was, and they were in tech, and maybe one of them had a ginkgo gene or two. But, like, golf kids. No, no, no, no.

[A]

That's. That's really hard to believe. But sure. But it's wild to me. How do you not America also. How do you not, like, also. Just because they aren't golf. Because you're school. Like, how do you not. That doesn't make sense. That's like saying, if I didn't go to school with any, like, punk rock people, I don't know what punk rock is.

[B]

Why.

[A]

Wait, how are you, like, Sapphira is in her 30s, bitch. How do you not know what golf is?

[B]

Why are you trying to validate Sapphire's experience?

[A]

It doesn't make sense to not know what golf is at this age. How do you not know what golf is? That. That. That. You see, you have to be missing a very obvious part of basically the world's culture. If you're like, I just. I just have no clue. I, I. Maybe she was like, I don't. Maybe what she was really saying was, I don't have A deep understanding of goth. But do we have a deep understanding of any of the stuff we do on Drag Race? Sometimes we just gotta get it together, you know?

[B]

You know, Saf, I want to let you know that your voice, I. Your voice is heard by me. And I, I, I value your contributions. And I hope one day you do meet a goth person and you have more insights in a golf community. But I hear you, sister.

[A]

Maybe you can have the same compassion for Britney Spears.

[B]

Close your eyes. Exhale. Feel your body relax, and let go of whatever you're carrying today. Well, I'm letting go of the worry that I wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class. I got them delivered free from 1-800-contacts. Oh, my gosh, they're so fast. And breath, breathe.

[A]

Oh, sorry.

[B]

I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order. Oh, sorry. Namaste. Visit 1-800-contacts.com today to save on your first order. 1-800-contacts.

[A]

Nymphia tries to get some. So Nymphia tries to get some fabric from Jane, and Nymphia is. Jane is not. Jane does not help Jane. But Jane is going on about how much she doesn't help. But then Plasma walks out in Jane's wig. So do you help or do you not help? Like, she was, like, helping other girls in the competition. I hate when girls help other girls in the competition. Granted, that's not a ton of help, but it's certainly not nothing I'm about to say.

[B]

She probably looked at Plasma and be like, baby, this wig is literally gonna do nothing for you, first of all. Well, she should have. She should have brushed this for her before she gave it to her. Because Plasma walked out in that wig, and that looked like. It looked like Jane pulled it up from under her shoe and plopped it on Plasma's head. Like, give it a wig and a brush. How about that? That's real help.

[A]

Well, I mean, she could have brushed it away herself. Like, if I give you a wig, it's up to you to brush it. Like, girl, brush your own wig. Like, I gave you the wig and I gotta brush it now What? I could glue it down too. Now I gotta prep your hair. Now I gotta pin it in. God damn, bitch, I gave you the wig. Brush it yourself.

[B]

Some people are sicker than others, girl, and they need more help. Plasma clearly needed more help.

[A]

And then Nymphia tried to learn the

[B]

all I wanted to do before we go past, but with the whole Donna Plasma thing, I think when Dawn's advice. I think dawn gave her sound advice. However, plasma, knowing that this is not her bag, this is not a challenge that she knows she's going to thrive in. Do the thing you can do. Like, the challenge that you the worst at is not the one to change your aesthetic and do something new. Now that's bad advice. Like, do what you can do well. Like, make your old 1922 trumpet dress and do that thing and do that really well. Don't try to do be the young thing. The plasma that dawn is telling you to do. That's not. Good girl. Now is not the time. Do your thing.

[A]

I can see the validity of that. But if your thing, if. If there's like an insinuation that the thing you're doing will probably land you in the bottom this time. Because there were more girls last time for her to get lost in the crowd in, and now there's less people to get lost around in. So, like, she's like that thing. That thing did not work last time. So I don't. I don't want to do it again because I did get ready down for doing this thing. But it did not. But it wasn't.

[B]

It wasn't that her outfit was bad. It was that someone wearing the same thing, the same exact. Just using the same fabric of her was better. So it wasn't that your thing was ugly. We hated it. It was, well, this person next to you is wearing this couture thing, and you're wearing this thing I could have got from Filene's basement. I think that was a critique. It wasn't that she did a bad job. It was that someone with the exact same materials as her did way better. So why couldn't you be that level work?

[A]

And then what happens is Plane Jane comes over and starts, like, harassing plasma. And I love that plasma goes. A lovely incendiary comment from Plane Jane. How unexpected. That is one of my favorite quotes from the episode. A lovely incendiary comment from Plane Jane. How unexpected.

[B]

I love this edit that Sapphira is getting because Sapphira is. She's really delicate in this, like, mother nurturing thing. And plasma and plasma spinning out because Plane Jane is harassing her. Dawn done gave her bad advice and she's listening to Dawn's advice. Well, sorry, dawn gave her good advice and she's listening to it, but she should not be. And she's like, spiraling at him while Sapphira goes over. She's like, calm down. Breathe in, breathe out. Know who you are, and do what you can do. And honestly, in moments where you are just in, like this. Like this pressure cooker that is Drag Race and bitch, it is so easy to forget who you are in fucking Drag Race. And having Sapphira come to her dine movement, did it save her from going home or being the bottom? No, but I think it probably gave her some clarity and eased her mind from being so in her head in that moment.

[A]

You know, for me, this edit for Sapphira does nothing for me. It makes Sapphira ancillary character in everyone else's story. Like the story's never about Sapphira. Sapphira is a supporting star in everyone else's story. Someone else needing help, someone else feeling sad, someone else feeling down, someone else feeling something. It's never about Sapphira. I know I would not want. I would not want this edited for myself personally, because it just makes you like the person who's always. It makes you the helper, the best friend, the fairy godmother. But in this version of the story, you'll never either be Cinderella or the villain or the wicked stepmother. You'll be like one of the mice or you'll be the fairy godmother.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

So, I mean, it doesn't do much for me in terms of television and I certainly would not. I certainly would not want this edit for myself at all. Because we're not seeing. We're not getting to see a lot of Sapphire. We're not getting to see. All we're getting to see is how Sapphira reacts to people's hardships, but we're not going to see how she does. But I guess through the reflection of how she's talking to other people, you can see how Sapphira would deal with that. And when things come up, Sapphira kind of squashes them really quick or just moves on or just doesn't fight or just doesn't argue at all. And that doesn't make for particularly riveting television, in my opinion.

[B]

I was going to say, I disagree with that. I think in these moments we are seeing who Sapphira is and that's. And that is who she is, right? That is who Sapphira is in moments of stress and whatever. So I think. I think we are seeing who Sapphira is. And it's. It's definitely painted to painting a picture of me as someone who I. In New York and where we hang out a lot. No, I wouldn't say I like New Saphir deeply, but I think through watching Drag race. I'm discovering a lot of luciferia is how she treats other people. I think that's definitely core to her personality, who she is. And. Yeah. So I'm not. I'm not. I'm not mad at it. I will say, the way that she is helping Maya, there is this, like, we don't. We kind of don't know what she. We don't know if she. Because Maya. Maya posted the look and she tagged. She said, sewn by Sapphira Cristal. I don't know if Maya is playing into the whole thing or Sapphira, but Sapphira is very adamant about. No, I just cut it out. I mean, I showed her what to cut out and I told her what to sew. But Maya said dress sewn by Sapphire Cristal on Instagram. So I don't even know what's what.

[A]

I mean, it. I mean, and all the girls were

[B]

like, you sewed it. You made the dress for her.

[A]

Maya and Sapphira seem both pretty clear on who did what in terms of this gown.

[B]

No, they don't. Sapphira said, I didn't sew it. My. Instead, she sewed it.

[A]

So I want to be clear. This. It says, dress sewn by me, and there's an exclamation point directly after. It does not say sewn by her sister. It says dress sewn by me with an exclamation point. Really? Actually, yep. Dress sewn by me. And Sapphira kept saying multiple times during untucked, I did not make this garment. I cut it out, and I told you how to do it. She keeps saying I did. So we. I think we know exactly what Sapphira did. And her. And her and Maya seem to.

[B]

That. That Maya said to dress so much. If Song. I don't know.

[A]

But her. Her and Sapphira seem to be on the same page about us. I think we do know what Sapphira did. But I will say, if making a dress is three parts, designing, cutting it and then sewing it together. I mean, Sapphira low key did two out of three. You know what I mean? Like, if a dress is designing it, cutting it, and then sewing it, and then sewing it together, I mean, two out of three is. I mean, it doesn't matter. Like, the thing is, we've seen, but a lot of the design idea was Maya's, but it was edited by Sapphira. Like, Sapphira was like, try this instead of this, try this instead of that, Try this instead of that. Which means she essentially edited and kind of redesigned it. And we've seen this on Drag Race before, and also, it happens when you don't see it, you know? Me and Thorgy helped Derek Berry make her outfit on the first episode of RuPaul's Drag Race. We sat down, we showed her how to make a leotard. I did.

[B]

What was her category?

[A]

It was Christmas Queensland.

[B]

Oh, I don't. I don't know what everybody made. Anyway. Continue.

[A]

It was like a Christmas bikini. Yeah. She. She was gonna make a leotard, but then she didn't know how to do it. So then. So. So then Thorgy made a hoop skirt for her, and then she, like, kind of finished it up, or maybe Thorgy cut it. Then she sewed her or something like that. And then she just kind of wore some bra and panties that she already had with her, because you can wear your own underwear.

[B]

Work. Yeah. And Maya does come with this line. She said, oh, I had a good night. Oh, yeah. Dare to go to work. And everyone is like, ooh, girl. We had to. We stayed up. I didn't get any sleep last night because I was working so hard on this dress. And Maya was like, I had. I slept well. I got mine done. What was y' all up? What was y' all doing? What could y' all possibly have been doing? Which I don't think. I don't think lends to the narrative. That's a furious soda. Because, I mean, Maya's dress was not super complicated. Right. It was a tube with a merman at the bottom. So she could. But she could have sewn in the workroom. But the fact that she doesn't know how to sew, I feel like it would take longer to make for her.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, I. I. Looking at her garment, I can see why she did it quicker than everyone else. It was very easy.

[B]

Two seams up the side.

[A]

There's not a lot going on.

[B]

Yeah, it was two seams up the side.

[A]

It's three pieces.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

One, two, and then three. There's three pieces on the whole garment. So, yeah, there wasn't a lot going on. And it is a. Interesting flex to be. I mean. But then there comes the questions. Like, you can keep working, but once you've done everything in your skill set, what else is there to do? You've done everything you know how to do. What are you going to do? Just keep looking at it and poking at it and lifting it up and putting it back down and stepping back and getting closer. You've done everything you know how to do and a couple of things you didn't know how to do. You have someone else to help you with. So, like, what is she supposed to do?

[B]

Yeah. I think that Maya reached all the skills that she had in her little purse from Miami, and she did the best she can with what she got. I am so curious. I mean, I love. Well, sorry. We'll get the critiques later.

[A]

What?

[B]

No, we'll get there. We'll get there.

[A]

Let's talk about these looks. Okay. This judge, her name is. What is it? Kaia Gerber. Do you know Kaia Gerber?

[B]

I don't know know who Kyogre is.

[A]

I mean, apparently she's a supermodel, and she was. By the way, she's a really good judge.

[B]

She has.

[A]

Cindy Crawford's daughter. Got it. She has some really great critiques. And she had a really. Some really cool moments in untucked. Nothing too poignant, but like, she. She made a really good point. And I took. Which we'll talk about during our review of that. But I thought she was a good judge.

[B]

Her outfit is so dope. She looks. Looking at her, she looks like a. She's. She's stunningly beautiful, and she looks like a fucking model sitting there. So that's not shocking. I love RuPaul's dress. Very. I didn't. I didn't love it when him walking with. Seen his picture of him in it. It's actually very beautiful.

[A]

It's got a really cool swag in the front.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So let's go into the look. So Plane Jane's look is. This is probably her plainest look she's made on the show. I don't know. She made a leotard last time, too. Yeah. I don't think it's look plain.

[B]

I assume Michelle was saying that. It seems like because plane often vibrates. She's so well put together. Her looks are so well done. I could. I think with the. The ribbon threading can look a little sloppy and not as high. Not. Not a high level and high vibration that we're accustomed to by pj. But I still think this is a good look. And I think she looks good.

[A]

I think the look is fine. I think it's, you know, bottom of the tops. But she does look good. But I think what it is when you're sewing, when you. When the outfit is black, when everything is black, you just lose a lot. You lose dimension. So when she had that blue out on, the blue itself is so vibrant. And then the detailing, which actually her blue thing Was less. Was a little less detailed than this, but that blue was just so bold. So I think when it comes to all black, you just have to be a little bit more. I don't know. Like RuPaul said, bigger shoulder pads would have been nice. But she does look good. But I agree with Michelle. I did expect a little bit more from playing Jane, but I certainly would not expect anything less than this from plane Jane. I would expect plane Jane to look good and to come out and have a. And have her proportions be understood, have great makeup, have some good hair and sell it on the Runway, which she did do.

[B]

Yeah, she was good. Let's go on to Maya Iman lepage. I don't.

[A]

I.

[B]

Aren't we done with crows on the shoulder? I feel like anytime someone does, like, something like spooky or gothy, it's always like a crow on the shoulder. It's like, such a. A common trope in this world, so I think that's kind of tired again. Maya loves putting a choker or a feather or something on her neck to let us know how short it is and how small her neck is. If she's. And no matter how many critiques she gets about it, she will keep on doing it until the day she dies.

[A]

I'm convinced also her necklace. Is her necklace crooked? Is her necklace crooked?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I can't be on a girl. Straighten your necklace out. The crows really don't seem to upset me as much as they seem to say, you. I don't really mind the crows. This dress is just. This dress is about as plain. The only thing that can make this dress more plain as if it feels a cocktail dress. There just is not a lot going on with this garment. It is hard to get excited about this garment. It does not make it easy to be pumped up about this. So I. I do think that her bottom placement is. Is. Is quite justified. And. But that makes sense because this is not her area of expertise. This is not. This is not where she shines. So I don't think anyone's really shocked by that either.

[B]

And what's going on with that makeup? Like, the garage door thing? I just, like, she just literally just put. Took black eyeshadow. I was like. Like, there's nothing. Maybe she did. She does something more creative than makeup. Like, something like, again, she doesn't have the same skill set as morphine, but something that felt like she was trying to sell the look a little more and something with eye makeup that would have at least made it feel okay. You work Bitch. But it's just like, she just put some. Shoved some black eyeshadow on her eyes, did no eyebrows, and put some curls on her shoulders and were, like, goth.

[A]

But again, I think she's working within her skill set. I think she's working with what she got. And she's like, this is.

[B]

This is what I can do.

[A]

Like, I don't know what else. I don't know what else to do. I can. I can, you know, try my best. You ever know when Trixie does, like, goth tricks, she does the same face she does, but she's wears, like, black lipstick and, like, maybe black hair, and everyone's like, whoa. No, but I'm not saying she's not a great makeup artist, but I'm saying when Trixie does, like, her goth Trixie, it's like the same makeup, but even Trixie. Even Trixie says this. She just does the same face, but she just does it in black with black hair. And because her branding is so strong, when you. When you curve from it even a little bit every. It's like if Ar Grande goes out without a ponytail, like, everyone's like, whoa. When your branding is so strong, any little change is so noticeable.

[B]

No, I'm saying that. I'm saying it's crazy that Trixie just does that because Trixie, like, is a really good makeup artist. Like, Trixie is really, like, she's really good with a brush. Like, she can, like, really do some cool stuff still. But. And again, but to your point, why. Why does she. When she can just do that? And it's. It's fucking fierce and it's a gag. Let's go on to dawn, which I thought this look was absolutely beautiful. This head thing is so cool. And finding out that she's. And that she has a degree in engineering, like, is was a shock. And I think this was this. She looks amazing. I loved her. I loved her eye makeup. It was, again, because it's so different than her regular. I just think she looks really cool, and I really like this look. And I think dawn is really just a cool drag queen. This is cool.

[A]

Yeah. She said she used fluid dynamics. I do not know what that is. I do not have a degree in engineering. But she used fluid dynamics and she looks really good. This is a really cool look. This was one of my favorite looks. But again, the thing is, she always does well, but just someone just does a scotch better than her. But that being said, she looks amazing, and she really pads for the gods. She is. She is going to build that Those hips out. She's. She is for. She is dead ass about padding.

[B]

And I think another thing too, is. Is the proportionizing. The proportionizing of it all. Because she also cinches her waist to within an inch of her life. Like, she wears a size too small corset to like. So it just makes her proportions look insane. It makes her hips look even bigger because her waist is so teeny weeny. She's great. She's a great drag queen. Morphine.

[A]

I think when she said she wears a small corset, she meant a short corset, not a corset. That's actually too small. She goes. Because she doesn't like the. The. The. The edge of the course of the show when it goes up to your rib cage. That's what she said. Untucked, is it? Yep.

[B]

Huh. Let's go on to Morphine. Love, Dion. They try to shade this look. I. Nothing that Michelle. Michelle cannot convince me. This wasn't. This was a bad look. I think that, like, this was a great look. I think Morphine looks really good. Her makeup was absolutely stunning. What she did with the mermaid at the bottom, using, like that different. That leather with the. With the. With the velvet, I think this was really great. I think Morphine did a really good job.

[A]

Yeah, I think she did a good job. I think she's the top of the top of the middle. I think she looks good, but she was bottom three. Well, actually, now that I think about it, the I. If I'm going. If I'm truly going through these all, the only look that I think are worse than hers are the two girls in the. In the bottom. No one else's look was. Was worse than her. So honestly, Michelle kind of ate like she was bottom three for me. She looks good, but when the competition is stiff, you're going to be in the bottom three even if you're. Even if you're good. Like, this look is not bad. It's not. But it's not brilliant. It's not great. It's. And the other looks were just so good. Like, she wasn't better than Dawn. She wasn't better than Q. She wasn't better than Sapphira. She wasn't better than Nymphia. So she just, like, she looks good, but in this. In this particular realm of these two particularly strong. Three particularly strong sores and another girl who, like, can sew, she just didn't have what it took to. To get in the top. So that makes sense to me.

[B]

But to give her a bottom three. A RuPaul, a fucking morphine. You're women pale and like to. I don't think it warranted that or giving her that kind of critique was justified because this is a very good, strong look.

[A]

Who should have been in the bottom besides her?

[B]

No, no, no one could have been. Should have been the bottom. I mean, but sometimes. I mean, listen, we're going to get there, but this should have been a double. A double win.

[A]

Um, so let's go on to plasma. And the thing about plasma is plasma. What. What. What are you saying?

[B]

I said, oh, she looks God awful.

[A]

Plasma keeps saying that she can't sew, but this. This leotard has three or four panels on it, and that's not particularly easy to do. And she made a pretty decent pair of pants. This look is not great. And I do agree with Q. This shrug she made is actually really cool. I wish it was bigger and went to the floor and more than a. More than like, a. A bolero. I wish it was all like, a full coat or maybe even to the back of the knees or even a trench the floor. I don't know that she had enough fabric or material or even time to do that. But this look could have been really cool. And she's doing the. She's doing the neck thing. This necklace does not make a lick of sense. I do not understand why her hair is not combed. I. Those are the things that really drive me the craziest. This necklace and this hair are just making me want to rip my eyes out.

[B]

There was just so many air. Like, Michelle was right. Like, it's like this. Like, she had the platform shoes, and it was. It was just a bad look. Like, I just don't understand. And then she's just standing, looking crazy with that eye makeup and the lip thing and then choker, and she's just on there looking just so sad as he's being critiqued. This was. This was an insane way to walk on the Runway. I cannot believe this girl. Girl did this. This is insane looking.

[A]

Let's go on to Sapphire. Crystal. I love this look. I think she looks stunning. I would wear this. I love the hair. I love this big black sequin part busting out of the gown. I. I really like this look. I. I love the way that she did the sleeves that, like, kind of like, droop. Not droop. That, like, extreme extended sleeve. She did the dress. The way this dress is picking up off the ground is. Is kind of hard to do because a lot of the time, the dress Will get caught under your feet. So I don't know if there's tulle or if there's a hoop skirt or what she's got going on in there or maybe a combination of the two, but this dress looks really good to me.

[B]

Yeah, I think sa looks really good. I didn't. I. Sapphira often knows, like, a character. I didn't. I didn't quite get what the character. I think I didn't get the character. I wish you for me, she just came on just model this garment that I think was beautiful and clearly very well done and constructed. But this is like this disgruntled over it person that she character that she made. She walked around the way again, I don't think she needed it because this was just so well done. And I think the hair also worked and it was all good, and I just didn't think she needed that. But yeah, this looks very well done. She looks really good.

[A]

Let's go to Nymphia wins. This look is really great. I honestly, I did not need that. That opening veil, like, it. It was a little before she took the veil off. It was low key a little bit. Giving Alaska's reveal reveal look where she just kind of had a big thing over her head and it was just losing a lot of the dimension. But for me, once she took the thing off, this look is absolutely, absolutely stunning. I love everything about this look. I love the way she's walking. I love that it gives that true Morticia Addams. Like, not Morticia Adams, who's the one who wears a dress. Wears all the way down to your ankles, and you can, like, barely walk. I think this is Morticia. Like, this look is just so good. It looks so high fashion to me.

[B]

High fashion, Yeah. I think them feels really good. We all know if there's a design challenge, Nymphia is always gonna fucking turn it out. I'm still obsessed with a fucking tie outfit that she made. The first design challenge, it was so good, and this is no exception. I think she said that those weren't even feathers. They were something else that looked like feathers. And when she was constructing, I forgot what she said the material was. But this looks really well done. And she looks so beautiful. Even when she was talking in untucked and she was just talking to pleejay about how she wanted her to be in the bottom. Whatever. She just looks so stunningly beautiful. I think she looks sickening. And I think Nymph, you're really knocks it out of the park again. She looks really, really, really good. But bitch, we got to go on to Ms. Q, honey, because this was really dope. And I love the hair, and I loved this coat, and I loved a lot. I think Q looked really, really, really good. And you turn it around as this big bow in the back. It was just really well done. And I think cute also knocks it apart. But I feel like the makeup and the hair really brought it. Brought it into the world. For me.

[A]

This seems a little bit more club kid than goth, but I would say it is a club kid doing goth as a verse to a goth doing club kid. But that being said, this look is remarkable. I would say, craftsmanship wise, this is hands down the best thing on the stage. This dress, this coat, whatever she called it, this overcoat thing is just incredibly well made. That big bow in the back was so gorgeous. It wasn't clunky. She wasn't tripping over it. She just wore it really, really well. What she's doing with her makeup is very creative. What she's doing with her hair is really creative. I don't know if she had this hair packed. I mean, I normally don't like that. She just won't wear a wig. And like, the only time. I think the only time we've seen her in a wig was during Judy Garland. After that, it's always some fucking weird wig or a thing on her head or just something wacky. But this time, it doesn't bother me at all. I feel like I honestly would have given this win to Nymphia. I would have given the win to Nymphia over her just because I felt like Nymphia's is more goth. So when RuPaul keeps saying Morticia, Elvira, I don't get any of that from what Hugh is wearing. And RuPaul was pretty explicit in saying it needs to be Morticia does Chanel or Elvira does Gucci or whatever the fuck she said. And I feel like a lot of other people got that memo. But Q's isn't giving quite that. If I saw this out of context, I would never say Morticia, Elvira. And I probably wouldn't say goth either. I'd probably say, oh, club kid.

[B]

That's a fair critique. I still think this is really well done. And it was this neo goth situation, which I thought was a new way to kind of imagine goth in a way that we haven't thought about it before. And I think it looks really cool. And, yeah, I think she looks really. Even her presentation of the look, too, I thought was very strong, which probably nabbed her the win over Nymphia, who also. Nymphia already has two wins already as well. Yeah.

[A]

So when the judging, Michelle called Maya out for not knowing how to sew. She's like, you can't sew. How the fuck did you make this? And she's pretty forthcoming with what happened. And other girls seem annoyed, but I'm also like, why are you annoyed that, like, why are you annoyed that Sapphira helped Maya? Like, why do you care? Also, she's in the bottom, so why does it matter? Like, there. Sapphire, Epimaya did nothing to you. There was no negative recourse whatsoever to you having Maya get help from Sapphira. Literally none. So I don't understand what the big issue was, to be honest.

[B]

I also think that it's not really a big deal either for me. I agree. Because, Rich, a few challenges ago, my. What's her name? Megami literally wrote Nymphia's verse in the whole song. Like, she wrote the challenge for her. So that's literally half the. That's half the challenge. Half. It was. Was writing and performing your lyrics and.

[A]

But it wasn't part of the episode, though, so it was hard. It's hard to. To. To true. Communicate about it because it. Because it just wasn't part of the episode. We only found out because of Twitter, which apparently Q deleted her Twitter.

[B]

Apparently. Well, she needed to, because last week was wild. She was really good. She was going off the deep edge. She did herself a favor, girl. And don't go back. Don't go back either, because let me say something. Twitter will never forget. The day you reinstate your Twitter, they're gonna be right back in there calling you everything but a child of God. And you're gonna be back there clapping your gums, looking crazy. Just stay off.

[A]

You ever got a Twitter fight?

[B]

Of course. Azalea Banks.

[A]

That's it. Like with fans, though. You never got to fight with fans.

[B]

Yeah, I have.

[A]

Yeah, me too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know. You're in deal with going back and forth, though. I thought it was like a little. That was like an Instagram thing, wasn't it?

[B]

No, it was. It was Twitter. It was back and forth on Twitter.

[A]

She always back and forth with somebody. She, she, she.

[B]

She's.

[A]

She gonna fight people.

[B]

She gonna.

[A]

She gonna say her part. She gonna say her piece. Honey. Rap said that Q's look will go down in the history books. You know, I just want to say out loud that I really. I really feel like Q's copper look was way better than this. Looks good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I was like, I feel like y' all are gagging over this and not over, like, y' all weren't even acting like this over the copper look. Y' all weren't acting like this. I will. They were acting like this over the sleeping bag look that Utica made, which I think was really, really good. I. I still think Utica's look is probably one of the best design challenge outfit made while at Drag Race. I do believe that.

[B]

But now, honestly. But seeing against Q's copper look, I don't know. I don't know anymore. I honestly, Q's copper look is, in my opinion, I agree with. Was way better than this. And I think they were really saying sometimes. Sometimes rudes be saying stuff. So I'm just going to go. I mean, get. This is a good look. She should have. I. I think she should have won. But her copper look was way better than this. I think that was a stronger look.

[A]

So Q did win. And. And when she won, she said, honestly, I should have won all three design challenges.

[B]

See this? This is this.

[A]

Do you agree? No, because the other one. The other one was won by.

[B]

One was won by Nymphia. The other one by Nymphia. Yeah.

[A]

And the other two were won by Q. Yeah. And I think the first. First Kim won two. And who won the other one who won the wizard of Oz? Naomi.

[B]

There it is. Yeah. I think that. I think that Nymphia deserves to win the first one. Nymphia absolutely deserves to win the first one for sure.

[A]

Yeah. When they started. Okay. So they ended. So we find out that the bottom three queens are morphine. The bottom three queens are morphine, Maya and plasma. And this is not shocking. I think this is the correct bottom three, in my honest opinion. And morphine is saved. And I think that is the correct answer in my opinion. And they are. They are dancing to the. They are lip syncing to the TikTok dance version of whatever the lady. What's it called? Oh, dance, dance, dance.

[B]

Bloody Mary me.

[A]

Lady Gaga, Bloody Mary. And I love that on the screen. It said TikTok version. I don't know why that tickled me and took me out so hard, but that really sent me that it said TikTok version on the screen. And let me tell you right now, this lip sync was entertaining for so many reasons.

[B]

Reasons.

[A]

So many reasons.

[B]

First, the dip. I said, oh, Lord, sh. She going to break. She gonna break her knee.

[A]

A song with a dance break against Maya Mon Leage. They never wanted Plasma to have a chance. They didn't want Plasma to get a chance to breathe. They had a song with a full on dance break against Maya. Iman La Lapai la. She literally never stood a chance. And Maya went bananas. Maya was flipping, she was catwalking. She was duck walking. She was fucking spins and dips. She was fucking emoting. But then she did that weird fucking reveal, which I. I don't think. I don't know why she did that. And then this. The funniest line from the entire season. I've never seen a wig reveal into a beanie before. I literally burst out laughing. That is the.

[B]

I thought it was a beanie too. I thought it was going to some type of gag.

[A]

That is funnier than anything that was said in Snatch Game. Anything written for any of the challenges. That is the funniest thing that has been said out loud this entire season. I've never seen a wig reveal.

[B]

I thought it was I. The rethought of the beanie. I was like, oh, she realized it.

[A]

A beanie. It was a beanie. What else was it? A stocking cap?

[B]

No, it was a stocking cap for her wig.

[A]

But it didn't. But it looked like one of the kind you work out with. It didn't look like it didn't. It wasn't. It wasn't a stocking cap. Because stocking caps are very. It's like, they're like, they're made of nylon. I think, I think she may have

[B]

had multiple ones on. I think. I think. I think Maya may have bob. I don't think she put a beanie under her.

[A]

It's the kind of thing you put on your head. First of all. First of all, I want to say out loud that people, drag queens prep their hair in very interesting ways because we're all making up our own things. I've seen queens do some stuff in their heads. You'd be like, why would you do that? It's because I learned it that way. What she was wearing was not a stocking cap. It was some sort of a thing to keep her hair safe from her wig. But it looked like the kind of thing that you work out in, especially if you don't have hair.

[B]

What thing do you work out in?

[A]

You don't want sweat dripping down your head.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

It's like a. It's like a sweatband, but it's not a sweatband. It's. It's a sweatband. It's a. It looks. It's it's literally what she had on her head. If you want to envision it and envision what she had on her head, it's just that. And if you're bald, when you're sweating, it stops your sweat from. When you don't have hair, it stops your sweat from dripping down. If you Google, like, Nike. Nike workout cap. Like.

[B]

You mean like the. Like the thing? The.

[A]

This. Like this.

[B]

No,

[A]

it literally looks exactly like what Maya had on her head. I don't know.

[B]

I've never seen this.

[A]

Well, you saw it today when Maya was lip syncing.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I don't think I.

[B]

What I think it was. It was like, multiple wig caps, and it just scrunched up to go. She pulled it up. That's what. I don't think it was what you're describing.

[A]

This is. It is this. Without the Nike symbol on it.

[B]

Send it. It's going to be too blurry, so send it to the.

[A]

I'll send it to you. If you. If you just Google Nike sweat cap, it's literally. It is exactly what Maya had on. Just ignore the. The. The. The Nike logo. That is. That is literally the thing she had on.

[B]

No, it was not that.

[A]

Well, I mean, you don't know, and I don't know. We're both assuming. And I also don't understand why she had that on instead of the braids. Because her hair wasn't pinned to it, so it didn't look like wig prep. Because it wasn't. I don't understand. I don't understand why she had it on.

[B]

That's. I don't think so. Because we've seen Maya get ready in the workroom before when they're getting ready before the Runway, and she has stocking caps on, so I don't know why she would change. Also, if Maya had that on under. We would have seen it in the.

[A]

I don't.

[B]

I don't think that's what it was. I think that. I'm honest.

[A]

I'm not terribly interested in discussing what this thing was. I'm really not that invested in it.

[B]

Well, I am, and I think that my head. On.

[A]

Go ahead, talk more about it.

[B]

Y' all making Maya sound like some psychotic person wearing a. Damn.

[A]

That's not psychotic. Doing something unconventional for drag is not psychotic.

[B]

Wearing. Wearing a. Wearing a. A Scully under her wig. That sounds crazy.

[A]

Doing something unconventional in drag is not psychotic. That's. That's crazy.

[B]

Yes. Jail. If Maya had. If Maya had a beanie, a bean bag, a bean Cap under. On a bean bag under her wig. That is psychotic behavior.

[A]

How much more would you like to talk about this?

[B]

I've expressed my opinions on it.

[A]

Super. So when they're doing like their lip sync, it just seems clear to me that there's no way Plasma could possibly, possibly win this lip sync. From. From the moment the song started playing, it just did not sound there was any way Maya, I mean, Plasma could stand a chance. But there's also a thing with Maya. I'm like her. She does not do a lot of attention to detail, which kind of like annoys me a little bit. I'm kind of like just a little stuff like, why aren't you wearing panties? But also, maybe she didn't know she was going to go upside down. But. But also, like, it just kind of kills the illusion. And like, why did you pull your cap off and not have like at least a kitty cat wig on underneath? Why, why. Why didn't you just reveal to your braids instead of like, it just certain things. I'm just like, Maya, I think she could really benefit from like a, like a creative director type to help her, like, you know, do some of the things, look, engage in some areas that she might look over when she's preparing for a performance.

[B]

That being said, she fucking wiped the floor of Plasma and I think rightfully she deserved to stay. Now there's an argument to say, like, Plasma has been doing better overall in the season. Plasma has two challenge wins, Maya has zero. This is Plasma's first time in the bottom. This is Maya's third time. But someone brought up a good point. Like, it's a lip sync for your life, right? When you're at that point, you kind of. You're washing away track record. Like, it's a lip sync for your life. If you're taking track record into your lip sync for your life, her life, and the person who is at a disadvantage, why are they even trying to lip sync? Like, it's a lip sync for your life and the lip sync is what's determining who's staying at that point. Like this. Your. Your work in the season brought you to this point and now only the lip sync is determining what is happening next.

[A]

I think the reason why, I think there comes a point in the season and obviously there are no rules. You can literally send whoever you want home. So there are no rules. But, like, there does come a point this season. I don't know if we're there yet. There comes a point in the season where you. Where I think Considering track record actually does make sense. Because you're wondering who has more to offer specifically for the competition. Who has more to offer in terms of the show and making the show good and doing a good job and excelling further down the line. I don't think we're quite there yet. Maybe in like one or two more girls being gone, it's time to start considering track records. But I. I can see someone making an argument for that because, like, we. You look at something like Shea versus Sasha velour. Sasha velour's lip sync was so iconic that it made sense that it kind of washed a lot away because it was just so insane. It was next level insane. It was mindblowingly insane. But Shay's track record was banana. She had four wins. Four wins against Sasha's two. But then again, I guess those four wins paled in comparison to what she did specifically in that one lip sync. But I agree that plasma should have gone home and that Maya certainly won over her. But if they would have been like, well, I want to see what this was. Your third time in the bottom. Because it's hard to envision not only a win for Maya in the show, but it's getting kind of hard to envision a win even in a challenge because of how frequently she is in the bottom.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I, I guess. Then, then, then. Then why have a look? Then why have a listen for your life then be like, then, maya, it's time for you to go home. You know what I mean?

[A]

In the event that something does happen. So crazy. Like I said, I, I think that in this scenario, it made sense that Maya won that she lip sync. And it's also just the structure of the show.

[B]

Like, we're just.

[A]

We're gonna. We're gonna tear down the structure of the show because. Because one girl is doing really bad and one girl's doing really well, right?

[B]

No, no, but that's my point. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like, that is the truck of the show. They're lip syncing for a li. So at that point, I don't think it's fair to count. Well, plasma had three wins, so even if Maya did a good. That's my point. Like, that's the structure of the show. So at that point, it's the lip sync that is determining who's going on next, not your track record, not the fact that you won the rusical. But how are you doing it in the lip sync specifically?

[A]

I mean, kind of, unless someone does Something really gaggy. And I think Maya did something really gaggy.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Or unless someone's track record is just really fucking gaggy. Like, for example, if Bianca landed in the bottom against Laganja, it would have been crazy to send Bianca home. That would have just been bad tv. It wouldn't have made sense. It would have been stupid. I do think Laganja would more than likely beat Bianca in a lipstick.

[B]

I just want to say. I don't know. I think that. I don't think so.

[A]

Okay, I'm not even engaging that one. So then Plasma, you know, sashays away and wiggles her little tail home. She really inaccessible.

[B]

But listen, Laganja. Oh, no. Laganja.

[A]

I'm thinking.

[B]

You're saying Laganja. I'm thinking adore. But I say neither Adore or Bianca are lip syncers. So I'm like, I could see a world where Bianca could be adorable. You talking about Laganja? Miss Pussy? Miss Mama? Let's get sickening. Got it. Yeah.

[A]

Plasma seems really in acceptance of her elimination. She doesn't seem shook, shattered, or shorn. I do not like the poetry at the top of the Runway. I don't like poems when you enter the workroom. I don't. I don't like poems when you. I don't like poems when you leave. The only poem I really didn't mind was Sookie Nutmegnost. Because it was just so camp when Sookie said, much, much, crunch, crunch. I don't know. I don't remember what it was, but something about that I thought was just so fucking camp that it made it funny to me. But typically speaking, I do not like this fucking poetry, these hakus, these sonnets. In the workroom and at the top

[B]

of the Runway, it's very Plasma behavior. I am not shocked, I am not gagged that this is how plasma is choosing to leave Drag Race. And it fits into her entire narrative of her brain and who she is as a person. And it seems very, very Plasma behavior.

[A]

Vp, I have said this before, and I will really say it again. Preparing an exit line is crazy. I will die on this hill. Preparing an exit line on RuPaul's Drag Race is wild. I cannot fathom why you would do that.

[B]

Well, you know, literally everyone except one's going to do it, so why not be. Be safer than sorry? And also, in my mind, Plasma thought about that on. On that day in the workroom when they were in untucked, plasma was like, oh, my God, it's my Moment, but in my moment, and she was, she came up with that there in my mind, because she's crazy.

[A]

Could not be me. Wouldn't be me. Won't be me.

[B]

Won't be me.

[A]

I'm not saying I would never get eliminated. All I'm saying is I'm not, I'm not preparing what I'm gonna say before I pack and go to RuPaul's Drag Race. And I know some girls have their exit lines planned before they even get on the plane to go there. That's wild.

[B]

And with that being said, there are seven. Seven girls left in RuPaul's. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, seven left girls. Oh, my God. The top seven. It's kind of wild this season. I think this is a good season of Drag Race. I'm really enjoying the season of girls, and I can't. I'm trying to think who is going to go home next? Who is it? Who do you think going home next?

[A]

Morphine, look at who is in, in the cast. I. My guess is that the next in the go home is going to be either Maya or Morphine.

[B]

Yeah, I could see it being.

[A]

Because neither one of them is just excelling or has won anything. I mean, mor. Maya is excelling at sending people home.

[B]

She's.

[A]

She's excelling at that for sure. But Morphine, I could see Morphine or Maya going home next for sure.

[B]

Yeah, I can see that as well.

[A]

And not really anyone else. I mean, if dawn went home, it wouldn't be cool. Crazy. But any, Anyone else going home would be literally shocking. I'd be like, what the. I definitely is happening right now.

[B]

I definitely still plasma going further. I, I, in my mind, she's going to be top five at least.

[A]

I mean, me too. I saw more for plasma. I saw a lot more for plasma. I like, I think plasma is really fun. I love that she doesn't. That she is cheesy and that she's corny and that she, she seems to kind of like, be like, I'm going to have fun. I don't care if people think I'm not. If people don't think I'm cool. And I think that's honestly, really. I actually, that is cool to, to do your thing so unabashedly and lean into the thing that makes you. She's so, she's so Leah Michelle, but less villain, you know what I mean? What was Leah Michelle's characters called? Jacob? What was her character's name? Rachel Berry. Rachel Berry. Yeah. It's it's very Rachel Berry. And honestly, she better work. I think she's. And. And she seems to be taking on the chin really well, even during Untucked. She just kind of is, like, being pretty. She's saying she's really being herself, which I think is awesome. She's not editing herself to seem more cool.

[B]

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