Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race S17 E14 "How's Your Headliner?"

Summary

Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race S17 E14 "How's Your Headliner?" (April 9, 2025)

Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Selena S. (Guest Co-Host)

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Episode Overview

In this episode of Sibling Watchery, Bob the Drag Queen is joined by guest co-host and fan favorite Selena S. Titties to break down episode 14 of RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 17, “How’s Your Headliner?” The queens dissect the double shantay aftermath, the multifaceted “How’s Your Headliner?” challenge, dramatic workroom moments, runway critiques, and the lip sync showdown—all while serving sharp wit, cheeky banter, and reflective insight into the state of modern Drag Race.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Post-Double Shantay: Workroom Fallout

• [03:36] Bob and Selena react to the unusual double shantay from the episode prior, with both girls spared elimination, leading to tension and frustration among the remaining contestants.
  • Selena: "Bitches go home. My season, everyone went home every single episode, low key. I was a little like, someone needed to go home last episode, low key."
  • Bob: "My season had the second double elimination."

2. The “How’s Your Headliner?” Challenge: Format & Confusion

• [06:15] The challenge encompasses a photo shoot for the Drag Race Vegas show, a secret kiosk video, a live performance, and a surprise interview with Latrice Royale—not the usual sit-down with Ru or Michelle.
  • Bob: "The main challenge was not clear. They never mentioned these...I thought the challenge—We'll get there."
• [07:00] Praise for the challenge as one that helps contestants showcase real-world skills needed post-show.
  • Selena: "A challenge on Drag Race that queens actually benefit from after the fact…this is like a, are you a superstar? Show us."

Notable Quotes:

• Bob: "RuPaul, when she's doing the photo shoot, she's having a ball. She loves to direct." [07:29]

3. Workroom Banter & Vulnerability

• [05:30, 21:18] Selena shares personal stories about early drag, long hair, and the internalized homophobia she experienced.
• Lexi's recurring struggles with trauma, emotional openness, and her complex background (including being trafficked and overcoming addiction) are discussed candidly.
  • Bob: "Lexi is trauma dumping every couple of episodes…She has lived a lot of life." [19:57–21:22]

Notable Quotes:

• Selena: "Watching Lexi do that, I'm like, perhaps not the cutest look in a competition." [11:28]

4. The Challenge Segments: Photoshoot, Kiosk Videos, & Interview

• [09:01] Critiques of contestants' photo shoot performances:
  • Susie’s lack of comfort in front of the camera and questionable wardrobe choices stand out.
  • Sam’s performance read as disconnected, and Lexi, again, struggles with self-doubt.
  • Praise for Jules Sparkles' photogenic quality.
• [12:59] Kiosk videos, which contestants wrote themselves, emerge as the segment that truly test their star power and hosting ability.
  • Bob: "It's clear to me, based on what I saw, that they wrote those themselves."
• [13:40] Latrice Royale’s interviews are a hit, with both hosts noting how queens interact differently (and often more comfortably) with a peer than a judge.

Notable Quotes:

• Selena (on Ru’s directing): "RuPaul, she is really feeling Jules during this photo shoot."

5. Judges Panel & Runway: "Opulent Outerwear"

• [30:04] The category, "Opulent Outerwear," confuses both hosts; most queens missed the mark or went overboard.
  • Bob: "Everyone had on a coat."
• [31:01–38:20] Detailed runway critiques:
  • Jules Sparkles: Mixed feelings on an extravagant look ("Is it onions or opulent?").
  • Lexi Love: Praised for opulence and craftsmanship (by Utica).
  • Anya Nerve: The standout—praised for total package but nitpicked for pant length.
  • Sam Star: Read for being typical, not showing personality.
  • Susie Toot: Bob and Selena defend the look, confused why judges disliked it ("objectively better outfit"—Bob).

Memorable Banter:

• Bob: "Ross Matthews, best he’s ever looked on this show." [28:03]
• Selena: "If there was an ass I would eat, it would be Disco Daddy’s." [31:17]

6. Challenge Results & Placement Debate

• [42:09] Both hosts argue Anya Nerve should have won both the challenge and on runway look, with Bob especially adamant she was robbed of a fifth win.
• [43:38] Sam Star criticized for lack of authenticity in drag persona; Michelle Visage’s tendency to push for humility is mocked.
  • Bob: "This ain’t America's Next Best Humble Race." [44:11]
• [43:53–46:26] Discussion about trauma narratives on the show, and how different queens frame hardship for the cameras (e.g., Lexi’s intense trauma, Sam's lighter "drag struggles").

7. Lip Sync & Final Verdicts

• [47:14–50:26] Bob and Selena discuss the bottom two (Sam and Susie), both admitting neither stood out and joking about the need for a double elimination.
  • Selena: "Send both of them home and have a top three."
  • A playful ongoing bet: If Sam wins the season, Bob will "eat this camera."
• [50:50–51:10] Final predictions: Bob picks Anya for the crown, with Jules as close second; Selena stans Jules, but admits Anya is the likely winner.

Notable Quotes:

• Bob: "You want to be like Violet [Chachki]? Well, I don’t want to end up like Violet, so I’m ignoring that advice." [48:01]

8. Season Reflections & Allusions to Untucked

• [54:03] Both agree this season’s crop aren’t strong lip syncers, with the exception of Lexi, but speculate she’ll shine in the Lollaparooza.
• [56:16] Tease for their Patreon Untucked recap, promising exclusive tea and further dive on the episode’s drama.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:36] Double shantay aftermath & workroom mood
• [06:15] Challenge format confusion & structure
• [07:29] RuPaul as photographer / judges' energy
• [12:59] Secret kiosk videos & what they revealed
• [13:40] Latrice Royale interviews
• [19:57–21:22] Lexi’s trauma, Drag Race and personal struggle
• [30:04] Runway: Opulent Outerwear confusion begins
• [31:01–38:20] Detailed runway critiques
• [42:09] Anya Nerve’s performance and “robbery”
• [43:38] Sam Star's persona: authenticity vs. performance critique
• [47:14] Lip sync verdict and elimination drama
• [50:50] Winner predictions and season wrap-up
• [56:16] Untucked/Patreon tease

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Selena S. [05:24]: "I love Jules so much...that's my queen. That's my choice."
• Bob [09:42]: "Susie is interesting to me…wouldn't you think you practiced a photo shoot before? Like, it was kind of per the course."
• Selena [19:04]: "Her uniqueness is what brought her that far…So, I understand this internal Drag Race pressure cooker."
• Bob [29:02]: "It's like she's blowing in the wind. I love it. I think it looks really cute."
• Selena [41:17]: "I personally am the dick sucker…maybe I don’t have to always talk about dick sucking, and maybe that will help me career wise."
• Bob [44:11]: "This ain’t America's Next Best Humble Race."
• Bob [50:26]: "You didn't been new. I've been told you. Okay, clocked."
• Selena [51:12]: "I'm a feed you cameras, bitch. I'm gonna sit there. I'm gonna season it for you."

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Structure & Tone

• Vibe: Hilarious, lively, irreverent, and honest—with moments of sincere reflection about drag artistry, trauma narratives, and the real-world impact of Drag Race.
• Format: Natural, riffy back-and-forth, punctuated by keen insight, personal experience, and no-holds-barred runway reads.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode...

You’ll find everything here—from hot takes on the challenge, nuanced thoughts on authenticity and trauma in drag narratives, a comprehensive breakdown of each queen’s runway, to finale predictions and why the winner should be Anya (or maybe Jules). If you want the full drama—and jokes about edible arrangements, muddy knees, and which Drag Race dads have the best hair—you’ll want to tune in for the full sibling shenanigans.

For Untucked coverage: Head over to Patreon for exclusive recaps!

Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Welcome back to Sibling Watchery. Again, we have your. We have some eye candy. You all were so thirsty last time she came back in a tank top. We have Selena S titties in the house.

[Selena S]

Listen, the followers went up a little bit, so I was like, baby, I'll take it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You gotta just make your shirt get smaller and smaller. Wait, do I have a tank top?

[Selena S]

Until I look like Gottmik with her little black dress.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I'm in my sk. I'm in my skank tank. This is gonna be my skank tank summer.

[Selena S]

You always wear skank tanks, though. With a little thread of a nipple all the way down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm wearing one. I'm wearing one right now under this hoodie.

[Selena S]

You're literally wearing a hoodie. Take it off.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Bounce.

[Selena S]

These are my bed. Oh,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm wearing my skank tank.

[Selena S]

Your chest looks good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you.

[Selena S]

Oh, my God. Wait, what is this turning into?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm gonna put my hoodie back on, though. This is crazy.

[Selena S]

No, you look hot. Leave it off. Leave it off.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Turned into.

[Selena S]

You look so good. Have you? Wait, let's actually. Let's fuck Drag Race. Let's go to the gym. This just became an episode of Sibling Jerkery.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you fucked any Drag Race girls? Selena, if you have to think you have. If you have to think you have. And by the way, if. If you. If you girls weren't drew girls when you did it, it still counts.

[Selena S]

No, but I have, like, been in spaces with other queens next to me while we did things with other people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who's at the top of your Kai Kai list, who's at the very top?

[Selena S]

Who I'd want to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cameron Michaels, obviously, because you were. You were about to. I think you almost slid off your chair when we talked about Car Michaels.

[Selena S]

It was so beautiful. No, actually, I think I'd be too insecure with Kameron Michaels because he's so perfect physically. But I will say he's such a sweetheart that that's a turn on. I don't know. I don't really look at drag queens like that. I will say I think Pearl is so hot, but that's already common knowledge

[Bob the Drag Queen]

that, well, now it's sexy. I want to be clear that whoever you say after camera Michaels, you're basically calling them ug. You're like, well, Cameron Michaels is so hot. I need someone, like, less hot. So I don't know. Pearl will do.

[Selena S]

No, no, I don't mean it like that.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

It can't be as hot as Cameron Michael. So I need some troll, some foot. I need a thumb like Pearl.

[Selena S]

I like thumbs. You can get pretty far with a thumb.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is not sibling jerky. This is sibling watchery. And today we're going to talk about the double Shantay that just happened. Um, the. The girls on your nerve and Jules Sparkles were both double Shantaed. They walk in the door. There's no mirror message to read, but Sam is celebrating a win, but she's kind of annoyed because no one was eliminated. Honestly, I get it.

[Selena S]

Mm. Bitches go home. My season. Everyone went home every single episode, low key. I was a little like, someone needed to go home. Last episode, low key.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, my. I think my season had the second double elimination.

[Selena S]

I brought this up. I think that episode won the Emmy. Don't you think it was so good with our.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which. Our double Shantae?

[Selena S]

No, the makeover episode. This last episode, the episode before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, so you think. You think they're gonna be other traders this year? You think. You think. You think Drag Race could be me?

[Selena S]

Well, you weren't there long enough for it to win an Emmy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. And you know what? You weren't on Drag Race long enough.

[Selena S]

I really wasn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You were on Drag Race longer than I was on the Traitors, that's for sure.

[Selena S]

Also, my season was longer than yours, so I was. They're longer than you. I think you probably were. My s been on Drag Race longer than you were on Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, you're probably. How many. Which episode did you go. Which episode did you go home on?

[Selena S]

I was only not on two episodes, I was. We had 15 girls, and I was eliminated. Six.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, you. You were on more. You were on more episodes. RuPaul's Drag Race than I was on.

[Selena S]

Well. And more than Traitors.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. Jesus. What has this turned into? Now, listen, we have a new day in the work room. It's a. It's a brand new day in the work room. Everyone is wearing hats except jewels. It feels like they were like, everyone wear hats. Don't tell jewels. I don't know if you noticed this, but everyone has. They have on, like, stiff. They're a cowboy. Everyone's wearing a hat except Jules, who does have a beautiful head of hair. I will say that for her.

[Selena S]

I love Jules so much, and we'll get into it later, but I. She is my queen. That's my girl. That's my choice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you ever had long hair?

[Selena S]

Yes. Oh, my God. Can I tell you a really stupid story? When I was 23. See, when I was 23 and I was first starting drag, I had long hair because I snatched it back up into a ponytail. And I remember I was so, like, I had so much internalized homophobia. Whatever. Someone was like, oh, you're transitioning. Congratulations. And I was like, whoa. Just because I have long hair. I was so, like, I was so shook by that. I cut off all my hair, but I'm growing it back out right now, so I'm kind of. I want to go back. We'll see what it looks like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're like, it wasn't the hair. It was that cut bone structure. Honey,

[Selena S]

when I was on Met, they're

[Bob the Drag Queen]

like, no, my dad has long hair, but he doesn't have cheekbones.

[Selena S]

You should see his back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Rue wants Anya to focus. So they're. They're doing this photo shoot. I want to be very clear.

[Selena S]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The main challenge was not clear. They never mentioned these.

[Selena S]

Girl. When we got the episode, we were like, oh, they did this. They did this, and they did this. They did not explain any of that, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, they did not. Because I thought the child. We'll get there. We'll get there. So they. First, they're doing a photo shoot to promote their Vegas. This is. How's your headliner? So they're doing this photo shoot to promote the Vegas show, which I guess now we know that. That Jules Sparkles will be offered an opportunity to come and join the Vegas show. And they're going to end up using her picture on the Vegas strip, which is really exciting and really co.

[Selena S]

I would love to say to this challenge is one is like, I love this challenge so much. A challenge on Drag Race that queens actually benefit from after the fact. Or they can prove their, like, superstardom. The challenge. You know what I mean? When it's like an acting challenge. Sure, whatever. This is like a. Are you a superstar? Show us if you're a superstar. And I really love that in this challenge, there are so many aspects to it too. The photo shoot. Start off with the photo shoot. You know, RuPaul, when she's doing the photo shoot too, she's having a ball. She loves to direct. She loves to be behind the camera. Yes, man, she is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she is really feeling jewels during this photo shoot. She is featuring jewels. Like, I can tell she likes her being there. She likes her personality, she likes her look. She likes the way she poses. But she's having a little bit of struggle with Anya. Not much. She wants Anya to focus on the shapes that she's making when she's posing for Piggy, which is true. You know, you. You really want to be either full on. Maybe turn to the side. I've. I've learned over the years from dating a photographer. Chin down. I'm. I'm the queen of chin up. I am always.

[Selena S]

Oh, me too. Me too. I'm always. Yeah. Cause, you know, like, they like when I look up at them when I'm down there. So I'm just used to. No, also I got that note from RuPaul a lot to chin down. Chin down. But I was like, wait, I'm trying to, like, accentuate this. Shouldn't I like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I. I always do this, but there, Jacob, put your chin down. But honestly, the photos always kind of great. And Jacob shot you before too, right?

[Selena S]

Yeah. So good. Honestly, my favorite photos I've ever taken.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Here is a picture of Anya. Here's a picture of Selena shot by Jacob. And here's a picture of me shot by Jacob. So if you're in the LA area, you need photos, go to Jacob Ritz dot com.

[Selena S]

I shall doing my. My boy head shots too, in a couple weeks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob, what is your website? Jacob?

[Selena S]

It is, Jacob Ritz dot com.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There it is, Jacob. That's Ritz with two T's and an S. Not a T and a Z

[Selena S]

because a T with a Z go T. Nuts.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Exactly. Why is there an upside down man in this photo?

[Selena S]

I was so confused by that. Why was that a thing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know.

[Selena S]

Because Sam wasn't giving anything. So they're like, get on. Get on your hands. Like, give this something to work with.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sam asked him to go upside down and that was part of it. Or, like, what was going on?

[Selena S]

I don't think so. I just think the girls are uncreative. You know what I mean? Some girls need something like that to. Jules didn't need all that, you know, like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Jules knelt down and looked up, did this. Lena.

[Selena S]

Okay, chin down, chin down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So chin down when you're sucking dick, chin down is crazy. So Susie is saying that she does not feel comfortable in front of the camera. She is not mastered the art of photography. But it's so funny because in the same. In the same episode, she goes, I have no kryptonite. I have no weaknesses. Then she's like, I flopped the same match game. I don't know how to do photos. I have no weaknesses.

[Selena S]

The judges don't get me. I have no character. It didn't work. But it's so interesting to watch how the girls, like, try to put on the Persona right in the confessionals. Susie is interesting to me also. If you're a girl who wants. Who dreams of being on Drag Race, wouldn't you think you practiced a photo shoot before? Like, it was kind of per the course, you know what I mean? Like, to know how to be in front of a camera.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I would agree, but what do I know? I'm just some drag queen. I mean, Rue does seem very unimpressed with Susie. Rude just does not seem to be impressed with Susie's work at all.

[Selena S]

Loki was a little offensive to show up to a Vegas drag. It is this RuPaul's Vegas show that she produced and put on. Bitch, if you were auditioning for my show and you came in and anything goes, leotard, I would be like, girl, you did not book. You thought you were gonna book the job. Look at the competition. You're not getting this gig.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The lyrics anything goes are so great.

[Selena S]

Once upon I was a ship. What is it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The. Are you singing Anything goes? In olden days, a glimpse of stocking was construction. But now God knows, God knows what

[Selena S]

boots.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then all of this. Good authors too who once knew better words now only use four letter words.

[Selena S]

Writing prosecution way far ahead in this episode. But Ross Matthews was like that. That outfit was in Vegas. It wasn't even Reno. And actually, it was Reno Reno's. Oh, yeah. Work smart.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So then Lexi is in her head during the photo shoot. Shocker. Holy smokes. This girl lives in her. I'm telling you, her mind is truly a dangerous neighborhood. And she is always in there by herself.

[Selena S]

I'm. I'm learning a lot watching Lexi be in her head, because I'm a bitch who gets in her head, and I'm like, you know, I wear my heart on my sleeve. I'm very open. I will cry and let you know about it. But watching Lexi do that, I'm like, perhaps not the cutest look in a competition. You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like.

[Selena S]

Like, perhaps it's endearing. Sure, we love it. We'll root for her. But, bitch, get out the fucking way. There's a competition happening. So I'm kind of learning watching this from Lexi because I'm like, I'm over it. You know, I. I have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have cried with Selena before. It's true. Me and Selena have cried in my car together one time.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Selena S]

I saw a big ass dick.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, you did not. No, you did not. I'm wearing shorts. Was my dick out, Jacob.

[Selena S]

Sibling jerkery. Holy out. We can edit it out, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, was my dick out? No, it was not.

[Selena S]

It was dangling out, and no, it was not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jake. Okay, now y' all are making stuff up. My dick was not out of my shorts. I'm wearing shorts. Y' all are wild.

[Selena S]

If you're listening to the podcast, it was out. It was everywhere. It was everywhere. I saw veins.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I kept seeing that towel in the. In the shower, and it was driving me crazy, so I had to get rid of it. So then they. So now they're doing so. So, by the way, it's apparently during that point behind the scenes, they filmed their. Their kiosk videos without. Without telling the viewer that it happened. What? They're like, surprise.

[Selena S]

Crazy. And that was, like, the biggest selling point, because the lip sync gift shop performance we'll get to. It was like, what the fudge are we doing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But that promoting Vegas, that was the girl.

[Selena S]

But as far as the challenge goes, like, you know, that was always going to be set a certain way. I feel like this kiosk video was the challenge. You know, that is the challenge.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I agree. And it's clear to me, based on what I saw, that they wrote those themselves. They wrote those. I can tell that they wrote those. You know what I mean?

[Selena S]

Yes, 1,000%. Which also, I think is like, again, a testament to their superstardom. Can you sell this show? Show us what you got. Be in front. Host it. You know what I mean? Give Us personality. I thought, yeah, well, I mean, we'll get there. Let me not jump ahead. But.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So after they filmed their super secret kiosk videos, then they went on to do an interview with Latrice Royale, which is interesting to me because, like, why is it not. Why is the end of season interview not with Michelle and Rue?

[Selena S]

They said, fuck these bitches. Call up the big one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They are officially, literally, they are officially in the season, a club where we never got to have a sit down with Ru either. We never. That. Never. That was never a gift given to us. They just breezed over it. But they got to do their sit down with Latrice Royale, which I was happy to see Latrice on the show, quite frankly. And again, it's more to promote the Vegas show, probably.

[Selena S]

Is Latrice in the Vegas show?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know she's done it before, I think. I think she rotates in and out.

[Selena S]

I think also I just love Latrice. She was a great interviewer. I thought she really handled it and she was like. She was a little like, no, too, in a way where, like, she was really, like, what do you mean? Like, clocking them on it and not just being so, like. I really liked it. Also, it was telling two to watch the girls interact with another queen instead of, like, with the judge. I think that also added another element for the girls to feel more. More like, comfortable almost, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. So I'm gonna ask you then, what's your greatest trait as a queen?

[Selena S]

I think my greatest trait as a queen, I think my personality. I think I'm. I'm like. I'm like, let's go. Let's have a good time. And I feel like I'm a good host. I don't think people really know that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's your worst rate as a queen?

[Selena S]

I think people would say my fashions.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't say that. Ask me.

[Selena S]

Listen. Okay, Bob, what's your greatest trait as a queen?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think my creativity and my sense of humor have really propelled me to the status that I am in the drag world. Yeah. So I would say my creativity and sense of humor.

[Selena S]

And what's your worst trait as a queen?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would say probably I'm very combative. I like to fight, which is great for TV and what else? But it's not necessarily great for everyday life. So maybe my combativeness could be scaled back a little.

[Selena S]

Okay. Another name, another worst trait of yours.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think that I. I mean, I'm. I. I think back in the day, it was my makeup. I'VE actually. I think I've gotten a lot better at makeup than people give me credit for. I don't think people realize that I've actually got a lot better at makeup than I used to be when I was on Drag Race. I think people still think I'm doing my. My mug from. From 10 years ago. And there are times where. There are times where I have painted my own face, and they'd be like, Layla 8. I'm like, it was me. I did my makeup. I did that. That drives me crazy.

[Selena S]

Oh, I love. Like, when RuPaul. We can tell Raven's not around. You know what I mean? What was it? The Weakest link.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, God.

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[Selena S]

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[Selena S]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

1-800-contacts. So when they're in there. So Sam thinks that her shadiness is her worst quality. Do you agree with that?

[Selena S]

No, I feel like that was just a drag queen thing. Like, I'm shady. I'm a drag queen. That's my worst thing. I don't know. It didn't feel authentic to me. Right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And, like, no one cares if you're shady, you know?

[Selena S]

I mean, drag queens are shady.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Susie is only the second. There's. There's not been a girl from Fort Lauderdale since Latrice. And Susie Toot is so Latrice. Like, I know you from home.

[Selena S]

I didn't clock that during the interview.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, well, Latrice said, well, we already know each other. And then she said. And then she was like. Then she was like, I'm the second girl from Fort Lauderdale to make it or since Latrice. I'm. I'm the only. I'm the only girl since Latrice from Fort Lauderdale to make it on Drag Race. I don't know if anyone was there before. Where's lashawn from? They're in the same season, though. Lashawn's from Florida, but I don't know if it's Fort Lauderdale.

[Selena S]

I miss Parliament House. Rest in peace.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, people.

[Selena S]

I remember I had muddy knees from Parliament House because there's a swamp in the back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You have muddy knees anywhere you went. You bring the mud with you. So, Susie.

[Selena S]

I hold my mud, but. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Susie says that being unique is her worst quality. Bitch. It's literally in the word cunt. Charisma, uniqueness, nerve, and talent. You think being unique, like, this is what I go back to say when Susie's like, it's just that these girls don't get me. I'm just so smart, so brilliant, and so unique and so much different than them because they're all, like, basic and idiots. And I'm, like, so smart and so cerebral and so unique and, like, more than them because they're, like, all basic and cookie cutter. And that's why I'm like, girl, how are you still not getting it after all this time?

[Selena S]

I. It's. Oh, it's so frustrating because, like, perhaps, like, she got this far in the competition. Her uniqueness is what brought her that far. You know what I mean? So I feel like she's just trying to. I feel. I understand this internal Drag Race cook, like, pressure cooker where she's like, I promise you, like, she's trying to play along with what she thinks. The narrative is that her uniqueness is a. Is a bad thing. But it's. It's hard to watch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I'm going to go ahead and say right now I think that Susie deserves to be in the finale

[Selena S]

over Sam.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I do. Genuinely. I think Susie deserves to be in the finale.

[Selena S]

Based off this challenge or based off her trajectory the entire season?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Based off. Based off the season.

[Selena S]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And honestly, this challenge, too. We'll get there.

[Selena S]

Really? You think so?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We will get there. So, Lexi.

[Selena S]

I'll fight you on that. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Lexi has been through a lot. Like, oh, Lexi is trauma dumping on us every couple of episodes, and I. She has truly overcome so much stuff. Like. Like. Like, what do you call it? Trafficking, Human trafficking, Drug addiction.

[Selena S]

Did you say that? Human trafficking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Were you watching the episode? Selena, she got chained to a bed for two days.

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[Selena S]

Okay. I was in Oakland watching with Jax at a viewing party for her birthday. So I. Maybe I missed that part, but chained to a bed, that sounds like a Tuesday night. Two days is for two, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For two days. It was a whole thing. She got.

[Selena S]

She got.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, you can't kidnap an adult, but she was, like, abducted and, like, kidnapped and, like, probably bad things, but, like, that girl is, like, every episode, like, something. Like, she has been. She has lived a lot of life.

[Selena S]

That's heavy. That's heavy as fuck.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's crazy. So whenever. So now it all makes sense why she's so emotional. She's like, look where I've been. Look where I'm at. You know what I mean?

[Selena S]

Yeah, but, like. Yeah, yeah, like, go deal with it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I think she's trying to deal with it. I mean, she's here. She has to live life and deal with it at the same time.

[Selena S]

Right? She's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, you have to deal with it simultaneously while being alive, you know?

[Selena S]

Yeah. It's so. And it's not easy, especially being on Drag Racing, dealing with it. It's not easy. Also, it's interesting how stuff will come up at Drag Race while you're there. Like, all of a sudden, you're like, oh, shit, I was touched when I was three. You know what I mean? Like, that happened.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will say this. My sobriety never came up on Drag Race. Not even once. I'm so happy that it did not. I would hate. Well, I don't. Lexi's not sober, obviously, because she is getting drunk all the time. They were like, she gets wasted, but she does get drunk. She said on the show. She gets drunk. She gets on the show. But I am so glad that, like, my troubled past was not part of my storyline. It wasn't part of yours either, was it?

[Selena S]

Well, me and Sasha had a big moment early on on our season, but it didn't. They didn't air that part. But I'm curious to know if, like. Yeah, sharing that's so important, I think the representation of, like, having that story out there. No, but we had a. We had a cool exchange about a past situation for herself, but I think. I don't think they wanted that out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was she like. Yeah, I should be. So was it about sobriety?

[Selena S]

Yeah, well, we were talking about, like, meth Houston stuff back in the day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh.

[Selena S]

Which I think she's open about because she doesn't do that now, but that's what we're talking about. But, like, you know, do you. You. That just comes out naturally on the show. You know what I mean? But having that a Part of your storyline is great, but also is it working against you in the competition? Like, I don't know, you know? You think it's helping competition?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's about, like, whenever I see, like a big sobriety was a big part of cocktail storyline on season seven. And then she ended up relapsing and folks are like, all up in her business and like, how hard is it to get sober when everyone's in your business asking you about your sobriety when you are count. When you. Everyone's like, congrats on this many years. And she's like, got one day or something. Like that has to be stressful.

[Selena S]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All up in your sober business when you're just trying to come out here and lip sync to a Russian version of all that jazz.

[Selena S]

Yeah, like, just, just. Yeah, that. That could be super hard. Yeah, I'm, I'm very open about my sobriety, but also it's not like a problem in my life. Like, I'm sober. So. Yeah, I get.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, you are a problem in other people's life. No, I'm just kidding. So I'm sorry, that was too much. Jules does not have a five year plan for herself. Jules strikes me as the kind of queen who was like, my goal is

[Selena S]

to be on Drag Race

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

don't know what to do.

[Selena S]

Which is so, like, it breaks my heart a little bit because I'm like, what are we doing drag for? Just to be on Drag Race. Which is fine. That queen exists and that's completely valid. But it's like, I never started drag to be on Drag Race. Like, you know what I mean? That was never my tea. And, you know, I think I. Not that I respect more, but I look up to queens who, like, are in the hustle and out there working. It's just a different generation, I think also too is a testament to, like, these younger girls who grew up with Drag Race and just want to be on Drag Race, and that is their goal. But I think they're going to learn really quickly after Drag Race that a plan needs to happen. Bitch. You know, because no one's. No one's telling you what to do, where to go. And I always like to watch the girls after the fact and see how they navigate because, you know, I'm navigating out here too, and. And I have people before me who've been navigating, so it's. I like that part of the game. It's fun to watch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're a navigator, Obitz.

[Selena S]

Call me Dora the Navigorda.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You might as well be Lincoln honey, because you're a navigator. So they're doing their makeup, right? So when they're doing their makeup, Susie 2 says, A lot of these girls have. Have strong reasons why they should be here, but for everything they have, I have a stronger one. Susie's like. Susie's basically saying, in no one's unclear terms, I deserve to be here more than the other girls because I have a better reason for being here than they do. Which is an interesting take.

[Selena S]

Better reason.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have a stronger. She goes. I have a. For every reason they have, I have a stronger reason to be in the finale work.

[Selena S]

Would you call this drag delusion or just like. Sure. Confidence.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think that Sam and Susie both suffer from a little bit of drag delusion. As we are. As we're going to see when we get to untucked. It was absurd. I was like, girl, Sam, how are you not seeing what everyone else is seeing? But we're going to get. And then I almost came and bit her in the ass, but we're going to get to that in a second. So in the. So we get to the challenge. They do meet me at the gift shop, which does not really highlight any of them. This is just to promote RuPaul's Drag Race live 1,000%.

[Selena S]

And we did. Yeah, 1,000%. We would have saw them rehearsing it. Someone not getting the choreography right. You know, it had been a whole storyline. But I will say the song was kind of cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it was cute.

[Selena S]

I live for it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I will tell you all I have seen the Vegas live show. It is a great show. It is a good show. You should go see it.

[Selena S]

It is a good time. And it's. I cried. Me, Anitra, and Baby Doll Fox all went to go see it before our season aired together. And we were, like, crying in the booth, holding hands. It was so cute. It was so cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So how do you get invited? What does it take to get invited

[Selena S]

to a Vegas life.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Selena S]

To be in the show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Selena S]

Someone asked. They asked me at the viewing party if. What If. If they think, like, what track I would do if I was in the show. And honestly, I would love to host, like, Asia. I think that is the best role in. In the show is hosting it. Asia does such a great job. I hadn't seen anyone else host it, but that's really fun. But I don't know. I think you just have to be. Do you have to be a Voss girl or, like, just a fan favorite?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're not all boss girls. I don't know. I don't know what. What the criteria is. Have you ever been asked before?

[Selena S]

I've never been asked. I would love to do a little residency for a couple months.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I bet you'd be fantastic. I heard it's a really. I heard it's a really great gig too.

[Selena S]

Yeah. And I love a rehearsed choreography. Dancers, tell me where to go. Hit your mark, boom. Onto the next girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Say it is a sweet gig. Like, it is so nice to have all your drag at the venue. You don't have to lug no suitcases. Suitcases.

[Selena S]

A suitcase and a stairwell. Biggest enemy to a drag queen. Every club, literally the amount of bathrooms we've gotten ready.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This shoulder is so strong. This shoulder is so strong. Bitch. Listen, I Listen, I'm telling you right now, I am never, never more than three feet away from a suitcase ever. There's always a suitcase somewhere near me, honey. I always got my away luggage somewhere around here.

[Selena S]

Boots, you know, I love away. I have to call them and get mine replaced because mine's broken. But they will replace it for free.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So let's go ahead and look at these outfits. Or are they ouch fits? We'll see.

[Selena S]

Starting with the judges.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's start with the judges. I love. First of all, can I just say this is the best Ross Matthews has ever looked on this show.

[Selena S]

He looks so cute. And his boots. I said this too. I commented on photo. His boots are giving Selena like the silver boot is so cute. The pants are perfect. He looks so handsome. He looks so happy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He. This. This is my favorite look I've ever seen Ross wear ever. He looks so good. I absolutely love and adore this miss thing Better work. Everyone looks great. Tracey, let's. Ross looks great. Michelle looks great. Rue looks great. They all look. I love this hair on Rue. This little. I love when Rue does a side swept moment.

[Selena S]

This wig. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't like it? I love it.

[Selena S]

I was. I don't know. It was okay. The wig was. I thought. I thought maybe the wig could have been a little bit because, you know, she's had some questionable wigs this season. Ms. Ms. Mama Ru. But the outfit is great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like this. I love this little.

[Selena S]

You would like this wig.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like she's blowing in the wind. I love it. I think it looks really cute. Sound off below. Do y' all like this wig on Mama Ru?

[Selena S]

You let us know. And Michelle looks hot. She always looks hot every time. Honestly, I feel like if I ever did all Stars. I should just come back looking like Michelle every time, see if they read me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Selena. No titties.

[Selena S]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

lib.s y N so did was the category coats? What was the category?

[Selena S]

Okay, it was opulent outerwear, which I completely missed. Watching them walk down the Runway, I was like, what? Halfway through, I was like, what was the fucking category again? I was so confused because it was given, like, co. Like, big. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone had on a coat.

[Selena S]

And then they said opulent outerwear, which. This is like, maybe. I don't know. I think one girl probably gave. I don't know, girl. I was confused. Let's go through the look.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's get into it. So let's go over to your winner, Jules Sparkles, who's wearing an ostrich coat over a corset and some, like, be, like, beaded or stoned, netting over the body. I like. I don't love this hair, but I do love this outfit.

[Selena S]

Someone said it looked like onions, and I said, oh, it's giving onions.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Her hair does like onions. You're right. Yeah. That's what. Maybe that's what I don't like about the hair. It's giving produce. I like the coat, actually. Okay, now I'm looking at it more. The more I look at it, the less I like it, actually. Like, I can't look.

[Selena S]

It's too. It's too much. It's too much, right? Going on. It's opulent, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will say, but this is your winner. But that's your winner.

[Selena S]

Yes. I mean, you won.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

[Selena S]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Selena S]

What? Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. This.

[Selena S]

This also. Can I just say, shout out to Disco Daddy. He's so hot. Oh, if there was an ass I would eat, it would be Disco Daddies.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, Jules, it's probably full of rhinestones. You a chip or two. And those are expensive sounds. He used the expensive, you want chip or two around with him.

[Selena S]

Swarovski.

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[Selena S]

I mean, I think she looks fantastic. I Do think it's a lot on top of one another. And also, like, I'm always intrigued by these giant ostrich feathers, because everyone's like, oh, it's ostrich feathers work. So it's already sickening, but I don't know. Sometimes I feel like it's fabulous, but it works.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. The more I look at it, the less I hate it. Let's go on to. The more I look at it, the less I love it. Let's go into Lexi. Love, baby. I love this coat. I think this coat is so opulent. I'm gonna. It looks so beautiful.

[Selena S]

Utica made it such a cool.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Such a cool garment. It looks amazing. Utica 8, as per usual.

[Selena S]

I thought it was. I thought it was goodoy at first because it reminded me of Sasha Colby's lip sync performance. Do you remember when Sasha wore the giant coat that she came out of? I thought it was the same thing. I was like, oh, it's good. Doy. But I saw that Utica had made it, and I was like, oh, yeah. It's giving. Utica makes a lot of these big puffer quilted moments.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We need one of the big designers to get on Drag Race. There's like. I mean, there's. There's Domino, who I don't think would ever even audition for Drag Race.

[Selena S]

Oh, there's Godoy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't imagine there's Godoy. Who else there does drag, though?

[Selena S]

The one. Goodoy would be so good on Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Amazing. Goodoy would be amazing.

[Selena S]

She would give such good tv, too. Especially in the confessional with the queens starting drama. I did an audition team for, like, season 15, I think, and it was great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She really is great. And RuPaul looks at short queens like they're teacup poodles. RuPaul be like. She'd be looking at the short quint like they're pets.

[Selena S]

Well, half the queens are short queens to her. She's like seven foot three.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, she treats. George is like a lap dog. She'd be like,

[Selena S]

But listen, the queen is over there, like, whatever you want. Book me. Put me in the Vegas show also.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Selena S]

One more queen. The one who does. He does. He's in Chicago. He does a lot of shades. Looks very hot. Yes. Doesn't he do drag? She's a woman.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not that I know of.

[Selena S]

Yeah, she's a. Isn't it? She's a woman. Isn't that his drag name?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not. I mean.

[Selena S]

Oh, But. But again, to have a drag queen with who's a designer. Designer Be on Drag Race would be sickening.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've only had Joshua do one outfit for me over the years.

[Selena S]

He was gonna do my. My Beyonce Runway, but they wouldn't let me do what I wanted to do, so he didn't do it. What'd you want to do there? The promo for the Carter tour with the big queen cage and Beyonce had, like, this big staff. It was, like, a big queen look. That's what I wanted, but it wasn't on Getty Images, so they wouldn't let me do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, back in my day, they didn't ask us. They didn't ask that we didn't have to send anything. We just. We just. They just gave us the list.

[Selena S]

They didn't have Internet yet, girl, so they should.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, gosh. Let's go on to. On your nerve.

[Selena S]

Back in my day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On your nerve. This look is so opulent. She looks so amazing. I only have one. What? We don't know. I wish the pants were just a little bit longer.

[Selena S]

Longer. They seem short. They didn't hit. Oh, I see. Yeah. Yeah. I see what you mean. Yeah. I got to scroll up. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, I feel like if she. I feel like if she was wearing. If she wasn't wearing heels, then they'd be perfect. Or. Honestly, you can't see the waistline, girl. Just pull them down a little bit. We would have never known.

[Selena S]

The earrings took me all the way out. I was like, this is for me, camp high drag fashion all in one. I was living for it. And then the nails, too. I love a nail. I'm a. Who'd be wearing nails? I wear nails, so I'm always like, I see that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, I would wear this look. This look is so good. Let's go on to Sam Star. I do not like this dress.

[Selena S]

Well, I think also, it was, like, with the category. What were we giving? I was confused. This.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I guess the cape is her opulent outerwear.

[Selena S]

I guess it just felt like a bunch of draped fabric, but I guess that's the case.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She loves orange. She's talking about on her skin tone. I don't think she means on a pale white person. Orange is very different on a pale white person than it is on RuPaul or. Or like me. You know what I mean?

[Selena S]

RuPaul's favorite colors are orange and pink. That's why the workroom floor is that color and the tables.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you like this look?

[Selena S]

I think it's a great drag look, but I'm not gagged by it. I'm like, Also, we expect this from Sam. You know what I mean? And also, like, yeah, Sam's gonna give us pretty. Pretty opulent drag. That's the category, I guess. But again, does it tell us who Sam is? I feel like that's kind of the. Been the conversation I've been hearing is, who is Sam as a personality in this realm of Drag Race? We don't know. She's just a great drag queen, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And now I can't unsee it. She looks like Patsy from Ab Fab. Like, she looks like Patsy. I was like, oh, my God, she is Patsy from Ab Fab.

[Selena S]

I don't watch that show, but I believe you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you just Google Patsy from AbFab right now, you'll be like, absolutely.

[Selena S]

I don't have Google.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, let's go on to Susie too. I like this.

[Selena S]

Okay, me too. I thought she looked fantastic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's Patsy from Ab Fab. That's exactly how she.

[Selena S]

Literally who she is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Selena S]

Wait, Ab Fab is an old show?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Selena S]

I thought it was, like a new thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nor am I. Nor work. Susie too there. I. The only critique I have is that maybe her blush is a little harsh to the point where it looks kind of smudgy. But this hat, this hair, this coat, the shoe, the dress, the gloves, this is a stunning look. I do not see how they read her for this look. Look. I really don't see how they could do that.

[Selena S]

Yeah, I think she looks fantastic. You know what it is? I think it's like how she's obviously always referencing the 20s and this glamour, Hollywood era vibe, but, like, how do you take that and make it, like, current? I feel as her problem is, like, she's. She's completing the assignment of that glamorous, like, vintage ideal. But how. What. How do you shift it to become. Is that. Is that even the goal? Like, do you shift it to become 2025?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think that should be the goal. I just find it weird. I just find it weird. They're appraising Jules's outfit and not this one. This is an objectively better outfit. Objectively, by every metric, the hair is better. She has a headpiece on. This is the. This is a better. The coat. Her outerwear is far more opulent. This is a better look

[Selena S]

about.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I'm a Juice Sparkle Stan. Everyone knows that about me.

[Selena S]

I. I love this look. I do like it. But I do think Jules, as much as we weren't living as much for it, was more opulent. Was it because it had rhinestones and feathers. She has one feather.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You think Jules's look was more opulent than this look? Are you crazy?

[Selena S]

Yeah, it could be crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To quote Monet. Are you joke?

[Selena S]

She said that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She says all the time. Are you joke?

[Selena S]

That's the thing. She says she needs to stop watching TikTok.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you really think. Okay, you know what? I'm not gonna get into it with you, because I'm not. I'm not gonna argue with. With the youth.

[Selena S]

Oh, we are the same age.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How old are you?

[Selena S]

How old do you think I am?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, apparently you're 38.

[Selena S]

Whoa, God damn. No, I'm not 38.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You say we're the same age.

[Selena S]

I meant I'm the same age as your sobriety. No, no, I'm 34.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, 34.

[Selena S]

I'm the same age as Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So let's move on to the kiosk video. So I have to combine them all. It was kiosk videos and the judging rolled into one. So Jewel's video was very well received. And I thought Jewel's video. I actually liked her video. It had, like, a little bit dirty. Whereas Lexi was like, I. Where she was like, oh, a nod to something dirty. And Lexi was like, I will literally suck your dick.

[Selena S]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, can I. Did I. I think I told you about this already, but I'm. I personally am the dick sucker. You know what I mean? It's always like, oh, Selena, sucking dick in the alley. I read RuPaul's book twice, and I have having a shift internally and physically. All the kinds of these where I'm like, oh, maybe I don't need to be the dick girl anymore. I mean, I've sucked all the dicks. So personally, I'm going through a thing where, like, maybe I don't have to always talk about dick sucking, and maybe that will help me career wise. And I'm having this shift right now, so I am a little more conscious, even though I've been making a lot of dick jokes. This episode of trying not to be always that, you know, And I feel like it's kind of where I'm at at the moment. So it was interesting to watch Lexi's video and be like, oh, I see how that's not, you know, it has to be done in a classy and almost, like, funny way. You know, I'm reading.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, it helped Cardi B. Cardi B didn't say in the class away. Cardi B said, I don't want to sip. I want to gulp. I Want to gag. I want touch that little dangly throw.

[Selena S]

You know what? Growing and evolving. I'm gonna suck dick.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Making these science that Megan these style said, I like dick with a little bit of curve. Hit this with an uppercut. With a uppercut. Anyway.

[Selena S]

Oh, Jules was so cute, though. The. The little ding, too. She, like, she automatically just cemented herself a little tagline, like, it was perfect. I thought she did a fantastic job.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Yep. She. She was.

[Selena S]

She.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She did a good job. Now, Jules RuPaul also said Jules was the easiest one to photograph. That's what she said. Without him, like, I would have been. I wouldn't say, like, my drag. My drag. Right.

[Selena S]

I live.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Speaking of not. They did not like Lexi's promo video. They. They did not feature her promo video.

[Selena S]

It wasn't great. Also, Lexi low key is not that great, like, delivering lines and stuff. You know what I mean? I think she's not good at that part, and that's okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I want to go ahead and say this. Anya Nerve had the best video.

[Selena S]

She was fantastic. Also, you can tell, like, that's what I love about Anya. I. I feel. I relate to Anya on this, where she turns it on. Like, when it's time to perform and do her thing, it's on and she's there and she delivers. When she hosted the. The RuPaul SNL thing, when she was the doing her roast ghost situation, like, she turns it on and delivers, and I like that. And then she turns it off, and she's back to herself. I really relate to that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She also had the best look. Anya Nerve won this challenge. She should have. She should have five wins. I'm sorry. It is what it is.

[Selena S]

Which look was the best look on

[Bob the Drag Queen]

your nerves look was the best look. No, Susie two look is really good, but on your nerves look is the best look for me. To me, on your nerve looks the most opulent. She should have won this challenge, but I guess you can't give her five. She. She would be the record holder, I guess, at that point. I guess.

[Selena S]

Oh, no one's had more than 5, 4 wins on drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't maybe, but I can't remember. Not that I remember. But anyway, I think she had the best video. It was. Did you like her video?

[Selena S]

I loved her video. I thought she was fantastic. She sold the shit out of it. And Also, like, selling RuPaul's Drag Race live, like, that is what you're doing in this. In this kind of challenge, too. You know, she understood the assignment. Like, they all Said Sam Starr's video. I was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well. Well, before we go into Sam Star, I feel like they tried to justify not giving Anya the win by critiquing her outfit in the interview. It's the interview outfit. The. Y' all lucky I didn't show up in a Snuggie.

[Selena S]

Yeah. Was that part of the criteria? That was dumb. That was dumb. But the judges.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The judges. The judges did not connect with Samsar's video. And honestly, neither did I.

[Selena S]

No one connected with it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know what it is? It's because when I. When I listen to Samsar talk, specifically during her drag moments, I'm like, you don't talk like this.

[Selena S]

Oh, interesting. She's talking like a drag queen. Would you say?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Selena S]

Is she performing drag? Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I'm like, you don't talk. That's. I know that you don't talk like that. I. Even if I had never seen you in the workroom, I don't think you talk like that.

[Selena S]

That's a great observation, and I think it's true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And it's hard, and it's hard to connect with that. You know what I mean? And Michelle feels like Sam is cocky. I will say this, though. I don't. I don't think there's anything wrong with being cocky, to be honest.

[Selena S]

What's wrong with being. What's wrong with being cockiness? I mean, as a drag queen, you kind of need to be in order to survive, I feel Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Michelle always trying to humble somebody. Humble bitch. Humble yourself. Michelle always trying to humble somebody. Stay humble. Stay humble. Make yourself meet. Give everybody. No. You bet. No, this ain't America's Next best humble race.

[Selena S]

Michelle told me I needed to get tougher skin in my humble yourself, but

[Bob the Drag Queen]

also get tough skin, but also humble yourself, but change your makeup, but don't do bad makeup, but do good makeup. Okay, but lotion those legs, but stop relying on that body. You know who Sam reminds me of?

[Selena S]

It's Trinity, the tuck.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jamie New

[Selena S]

from. From Halloween.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

From everybody talking about Jamie.

[Selena S]

Is that the character in the musical

[Bob the Drag Queen]

who is also a real. Well, I don't think the real guy's name is Jamie New, but his name is Jamie, and he is the. The boy. The boy that wants to go to prom and Dragon. Like, his problems aren't really that, like, we are talking about, like, so Lexi's like, I was chained to a bed and chained to a bed for 48 hours. I was kicked out of my house as a teenager. I smoked meth for. And then Anya nervous like My father robbed banks. He was not in my life. It was hard to exist like that. Jules Parker's like, I have metal in my back. I was almost broken in half. And then Sam's like, someone said I should be prom queen instead of prom king. So, like, I had it really rough.

[Selena S]

Didn't Rose kind of have that storyline where it's like, I have no trauma. I'm a gay with no trauma. Like, can I just be fierce?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, isn't that I'm the definition of American dream?

[Selena S]

So she needs to go get trafficked is what you're saying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not saying go get trauma. What I'm saying is like, oh, that was Lux.

[Selena S]

Lux, our season. Lux, our season. They were like, lux, if you don't share a bit of trauma, you might be in the bottom soon. And Lux was like, I'm sorry that I'm middle class. No trauma. And we would call Lux middle class, no trauma the entire season.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's hilarious. That is hilarious.

[Selena S]

Middle class, no trauma.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hilarious. That's hilarious. But, yeah, okay, so Susie got very hard critiques. Susie Sue. Like, you could see the smile fade from Susie's face as she was.

[Selena S]

Her soul was just crushed. Even in untucked, you can tell she was like, I'm going home. It's done. It's over. It's me. And, like, she tried to leave with some dignity, but it just came off a little like, oh, I felt bad for the girl. She's holding on for dear life.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it. Yeah, it was gaggy. She was really. Because she thought she would either girl, which. Which she always thinks she's like, you hoes on one with me. You hoes can't hold. You can. You can't take me. And then they were like, we. We. Not only do we not. We don't want it with you, we don't want it at all. Go, go the home. Betty.

[Selena S]

I. I love. I really like Susie. I think she's very talented. But watching, I don't think the judges were off with their critiques. I don't think they were being unfair. I don't think they were being dismissive. I think they were, like, giving honest feedback.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I agree. Except for this look. I do think this look is the second best look of the night. Genuinely. Yes.

[Selena S]

Yeah, I'll let you have that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's on your nerve. Then Susie Toot, Then Lexi Love, then Jill Sparkles, then Samstar.

[Selena S]

I think they all look great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You hating ass, lame ass, raggedy ass

[Selena S]

about you shouldn't be critiquing looks or something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You dick sucking ass. Muddy knees. Ass. Yeah, Violet said that. But let me tell right now, you ask yourself, you viewers at home, who do you want to be like Violet Chachi.

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Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You want to be like Violet.

[Selena S]

She's hot. She's skinny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've always said this. I've always said this. When people give you advice, consider the source. And I don't want to end up like Violet, so I'm ignoring that advice. Work.

[Selena S]

And you know what? I actually would like a trajectory more like Bob the drag Queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ities with it. Ease, my boy.

[Selena S]

I already got the golden boot, so I'm on my way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So they get the critiques. Jewel Sparkles wins the challenge. And Sam and Suzanne Tooth are in the bottom.

[Selena S]

This is this Joel's first win?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, this is her second or third.

[Selena S]

Okay, cool. I like that for her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Check the Internet. Tell me, please.

[Selena S]

Check the world.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But that's your queen. You don't know how many wins she got. But that's your queen.

[Selena S]

Yep.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow. Fake fan. Fake fan.

[Selena S]

Real fake.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're a fake. Who you, Jules Sparkle is your. Is your. Is your pick for the win at this point?

[Selena S]

Yes. I think she's the most talented out of all the girls.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's crazy.

[Selena S]

Next to Anya. Well, it's between Anya and her, I think, when she's also won the design challenge during episode nine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you.

[Selena S]

Work. My queen. The winner winning.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like. I like Jill Sparkle. She's my second place queen. On your nerve is my queen. Wait, who you think won this Lip sync, though?

[Selena S]

I said send both of them home and have a top three, is what I said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honestly, a double elimination. That would have so sickening. She would have been.

[Selena S]

That would have been cunt capital. That would have been sickening. None of them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sam.

[Selena S]

Imagine Sam's face crack if she got sent home. That would have been sickening.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, now there is a small chance. There's a 1 in 4 chance that I might have to eat this camera. Although I still don't think it's gonna happen. But there is a one in four chance that I will be munching on this. Oh, this camera.

[Selena S]

There is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which obviously I'm not. Obviously I'm not filming with my camera because I just. It was a whole thing, y'. All. It was a whole. There's a reason. There's a reason. There's a method to the madness.

[Selena S]

So I honestly, I, I, I, I. Last week or last time we talked, you were like, sam's not winning at all. And I was like, I could have Had a run for her for the crown. But now I look at it and I'm like, no, no, no. It's between Anya and Jules for me, and I'll be happy with either, to be honest.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But when I said that, I was crazy.

[Selena S]

You were. At the time. You were. At the time, you were eating cameras.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When I told everyone online that Jewel Sparkles was one of my friends, girls, y' all act like I was crazy, but now y' all at home trying to act like, oh, we been new. You didn't been new. I've been told. You okay, clocked. So who. So who's the winner? Who's the winner of season 17?

[Selena S]

I think it's gonna be Anya, but I love Jules. I would love for Jules to win, but I think it's gonna be Anya.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To be honest, if Anya won, I'd be cool. If Juice Jules won, I'd be cool. If Lexi won, I'd be cool.

[Selena S]

Honestly, I don't care. Should we go to what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What if Sam won?

[Selena S]

I'mma feed you cameras, bitch. I'm gonna sit there. I'm gonna season it for you. Everyone's so excited to watch you eat it. Take your teeth out,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

bitch. Munching on cameras and shit. Important question. Who's winning the lip sync? Lollaparooza.

[Selena S]

I'm so excited for this episode, bitch. I love a Lollaparuza. I. I lallaparuza, where I beat Luxx. And I was so proud of that accomplishment. Um, it made me so happy. I. You know, also, too, I never talked to you about this because, you know, you're Celine Dion. That. What. That song that we did. It's all coming back to me now, is viral on. On the YouTubes. And I feel like I've seen you do it before in. In person once in New York and took everything in me to not do the baby kick, baby throw thing that you do. That is my favorite bit that you do during that number. And I was not gonna do it because I didn't want any backlash, but I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't get an opportunity to lip sync as much as I used to back in the day, so people don't know. I'm actually. I'm actually a really good lip syncher, but a lot of people don't actually know this about me because I don't get. I don't get too many opportunities to lip sync these days.

[Selena S]

Oh, she needs bookings, y'. All. You heard her here first.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I desperately need bookings. So, please, if you all could Get a girl books. I will come to a local bar near you and lip sync at your brunch. And lip sync it down.

[Selena S]

Monet came to do my viewing party for free. For fun and for free. Just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know she could perform me. She's like, I'm leaving. I'm leaving Selena's party. I said, oh, and I'm wearing this corset. I said, are you in drag? She was like, yeah. I said, oh, my God. Ooh, chile. I was like, she never invited me.

[Selena S]

Listen, Monet called me and asked to come do my gig for free.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You never invited me.

[Selena S]

Gag me, would you? Do you want to do the finale?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not interested. That day. Let's go into if I'm free. It would be fun.

[Selena S]

I'm screaming, but I'm excited for the Lollaparooza. Who's gonna.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where do you do it at?

[Selena S]

Honestly? Kiso Bar, downtown. It's like two blocks down from Precinct. It's. It's a newer bar. Kiso Gang.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Gang.

[Selena S]

Honestly, I don't think this season has a really strong lip sync performers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did Monet do any numbers at your.

[Selena S]

Yeah, she did a number. Brought the house down, made some coins. She was counting her tips in the back like a local girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How much did you make? I want to make more.

[Selena S]

Can we ask her?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's gonna lie.

[Selena S]

You think so?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I need you to be there. Dollar pocket watching.

[Selena S]

You know, I might have given her my tips too. I know she. She was hungry that night. No, I'm just kidding.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That'd be crazy. She probably wasn't hungry. That last part is true.

[Selena S]

I did buy her some chocolate covered strawberries as a thank you. You know, to get her horny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What am I gonna get? Can I get a full Edible Arrangement?

[Selena S]

I will give you a full Edible Arrangement if you do my show with chocolate, too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, period chocolate on the Edible Arrangement. Oh, of course, chocolate.

[Selena S]

No, no, no. You're not getting a stale piece of fruit, bitch. You are getting a chocolate covered, refrigerated arrangement.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. And I'll eat it during the show while we watch.

[Selena S]

Yeah. Boots.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then perform with a lit. With a belly full of Juicy Fruit in my fucking gut.

[Selena S]

But wait. Do you agree this season didn't have a great performer? Lip syncers. I don't think they were that great. Think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Actually, I don't think I realized this, Lexi. From what I've seen online, she's an insane lip syncer.

[Selena S]

Oh, I've been hearing this. I need. Maybe she'll gag us in the La Peruza.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I Mean, she's not gonna be in the La Peruza.

[Selena S]

What? Yeah. The top four gets a perform. No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do they. I don't remember. No, no. They. They.

[Selena S]

They come out, they look hot. They sit down. And then eliminated girls performance only for.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've seen videos of Alexi online. She's insane.

[Selena S]

Because why. Why would they have a lalaparuza and have you kabit against Sasha and Anitra? That would have been crazy. Oh, that's kind of true. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Lexi is a. Is a great. She's insane. Go look up, y'. All. Look up her video. She's crazy. And also imagine you. You sit here lip syncing your. And then this bitch put on a pair of roller skates and dust your ass.

[Selena S]

She just pulls them out. Hold on, y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All. But it'd be worth it once they get on when she's sitting here, you know. You know, they be escaped backwards, like crossing their feet.

[Selena S]

No Rollerblade. Tick Tock is wild. I'm so impressed with those. I remember. Did you. Did you ever buy rollerblades during. During the pandemic? It was like a trend. Everyone was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Roller skating season of Drag Race. I can't roller skate, girl. I. I almost fell in that.

[Selena S]

In that robot bodysuit that was so iconic. You should. You could have won a golden Boot if they had it at the time for that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's this one guy from Atlanta who is so hot, and he roller skates. I'm gonna find his Tick tock and send it to you. I'm. I'm obsessed with his. With his.

[Selena S]

It's so. It's such a sexy skill to have if you can do little tricks like that in the roller rink. My wet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now, listen, y', all, if you want to come here, let's talk about Untucked. You can catch us over on Patreon, where we discuss Untucked exclusively. And actually, we'll be talking tuck this. This week. This. This episode actually was pretty good. So we actually do have things to talk about. So we'll see you all there.

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