Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race S17 E4 "B.tch, I'm a Drag Queen!"

Summary

Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race S17 E4 “B.tch, I’m a Drag Queen!”

With Bob the Drag Queen, Monét X Change & Special Guest Kim Chi
Release Date: January 29, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode of Sibling Watchery, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change are joined by Season 8 finalist and global drag superstar Kim Chi to dive into RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 17, Episode 4: “B.tch, I’m a Drag Queen!” The trio dish on all things Drag Race—from behind-the-scenes shade, legendary Runway critiques, and drama in this season’s musical maxi-challenge, to their own experiences as competitors on the show. The conversation is filled with witty banter, honest opinions, and notable tea, offering a hilarious and insightful take for both Drag Race superfans and newcomers.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Guest: Kim Chi’s “LA Drag Premier” Controversy

[01:05 – 03:04]

• Kim Chi joins and, referencing a running joke, clarifies she doesn’t claim the title “the destination of LA drag.”
• Banter ensues about which queens hold the LA drag “premier” crown, with references to Manila Luzon, Angina, and Raja.
• Kim: “There can be many of us representing different aspects of drag.”

2. Binge-Watching & Gym Antics

[02:45 – 04:22]

• Monét admits she binge-watched four episodes at the gym to prepare for the podcast.
• Kim shares her methods for getting through cardio: “Once I’m on the treadmill doing ‘Anything Goes’ with Sutton Foster, girl, I can do a couple more rounds.”
• Kim and Monét agree: emotional drama in shows (especially K-dramas) can lead to crying at the gym.

3. Season 17 “Showmances” and Untucked Emotions

[04:28 – 06:07]

• Discussion of Lucky Stars’ early exit and an on-showmance with Arietti. Bob finds it unexpectedly emotional:

  “I did not see Lucky Stars going home so soon... love to see the showmance.” —Bob [04:41]

• Kim points out Arietti as the driving force of the showmance.

4. Queens Getting Salty

[05:26 – 06:53]

• Monét: “My favorite thing about watching drag queens on Drag Race is watching them get salty.”
• The group reminisces about emotional eliminations from their own seasons. Bob shares a behind-the-scenes story about crying with Kim when Acid Betty was eliminated:

  “We were both just bawling, like Kim Chi watching a Korean drama on the treadmill.” —Bob [06:43]

5. The Maxi Challenge: Commercials & Role Assignments

[11:45 – 14:46]

• The queens must produce commercials for imaginary Drag Race albums, “I’m a Dragon Vol 1 & 2.” Each queen draws an iconic Drag Race moment and a music genre to reinterpret.
• Bob reads off every queen’s assignment, prompting playful heckling from Kim about excessive detail.
• They discuss the struggle of not being able to choose genres, noting how that adds a layer of challenge (or sabotage).

6. Group Dynamics & The Dreaded Group Project

[24:35 – 26:42]

• Bob and Kim discuss the perils of group projects in Drag Race and “Work the World” tours.
• Kim: “There's always a queen who thinks she’s too cool for certain parts. Rehearsal is always a nightmare.”

7. Runway Reviews: “Quilted for Her Pleasure”

[42:02 – 63:52]

• The hosts give detailed critiques queen-by-queen, using classic “toot” (approved) / “boot” (disapproved) terminology.
• Repeated complaints about dark costumes disappearing on the current black Runway stage.
• Notable Discussions:
  • Lydia Butthole Collins: Divided verdict on her cat/couch look.
  • Joella’s RuPaul Quilt Look: Universally panned.

    “She literally just bought an actual quilt.” —Kim [47:33] “Why is Ru cockeyed? Why is Rue looking at the camera like this?” —Bob [47:59]

  • Crystal Envy: Praised for “best look of the season so far” [53:15].
  • Sam Star: Love for her pillow/hair look (a Victor & Rolf-inspired concept).
  • Acacia Forgot: Appreciation for incorporating heirloom family textiles.
  • Cory King’s Proportions: Several read her for a lack of drama in hair and glove length.

8. Signature Drag, Shaming, and Lasting Labels

[65:01 – 67:12]

• Judges challenge Arietti about her signature white nose.
• Kim reflects on how critiques become part of drag queen “lore,” no matter how much a queen evolves:

  “Once it is said on TV, that is just who you are now.” —Kim [66:41]

9. Untucked Realness & Local Queen Shade

[77:00 – 77:59]

• Joella’s exit quip, “At least I didn’t die a local girl,” triggers outrage among real-life local queens.
• Bob: “Twitter was ablaze this week. Joella had to issue an apology.”

10. Predictions for the Win

[78:24 – 79:02]

• Monét names Arietti and Lexi Love as her picks.
• Bob goes for Lexi Love: “I like her vibe.”
• Kim votes for “Susie Toot for the win.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Delusion & Confidence (Post-Challenge):
  “Everyone is confident. Everyone feels like they nailed it... I definitely suffer from this. On Drag Race, I remember coming back from Whitney Houston...honestly, put me on SNL, girl.”
  —Bob [31:07 – 31:40]

• On Producers & Drag Queen Drama:
  “Any girl who tells you the producers make them fight, they're lying. Drag queens fight on their own. Even when the cameras aren’t around!”
  —Kim [41:03]

• On Runway Proportions:
  “That glove needs to be abolished from every drag queen's wardrobe. Your glove should never be this length, girl.”
  —Bob [62:25]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Topic | Timestamp | |-----------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|--------------------| | Special Guest Intro | Kim Chi enters; LA “premier” banter | 01:05 – 03:04 | | Emotional Eliminations| Showmances, real Drag Race tears | 04:41 – 06:53 | | Challenge Setup | Details on musical commercials, iconic quotes assigned | 11:45 – 14:46 | | Runway Reviews | Deep-dive into each Queen’s “Quilted for Her Pleasure” | 42:02 – 63:52 | | White Nose Debate | Arietti’s makeup, iconic critiques lore | 65:01 – 67:12 | | Joella’s Exit | Local queen shade & Twitter drama | 77:00 – 77:59 | | Season Predictions | Hosts’ winner picks | 78:24 – 79:02 |

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Additional Highlights & Drag Race Wisdom

• Drag Race “Robberies”: The panel discusses feeling “robbed” or unfairly rewarded (or not) on their own seasons. Bob, about All Stars 7: “There were definitely some I could have won that I did not for sure.” [10:50]

• Runway Stage Evolution: Nostalgic chatter about how the Runway used to be dangerous—girls could “fall four feet to the ground” [44:36]—and how modern production changed the space.

• Runway Fabrication Pet Peeves:

  • Black stones and rhinestones: “Such a waste...it never shows up.” —Bob & Monet [59:56–59:58]
  • Stoning sequins: “Does not make it pop more!” [60:06]

• On Drag Culture:
  “Culture is not a costume. Even if queens aren’t in touch with their culture, I love to see them research it, get to know more, and showcase those looks.” —Monét [37:34]

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TL;DR (Too Long; Didn’t Listen)

This hour-plus episode is a quintessential bob-and-Monét moment: hilarious, shady, candid, and full of Drag Race wisdom.

• Kim Chi’s guest energy elevates the episode, especially on Runway critique and drag theory.
• The showmances, musical challenge, and Runway looks (quilt disasters to fashion highs) spark some of the season’s most entertaining banter.
• Memorable quotes abound—especially on delusion, fame, and the joys/struggles of drag community.
• Predictions: Lexi Love, Susie Toot, or Arietti could go all the way, according to the queens.

For Drag Race fans, it’s essential sibling rivalry—covering everything but the ads.

Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Kim Chi]

We are back for sibling watchery. We are reviewing episode four, Drag Queen season 17. And we have Chicago drag legend, makeup mogul. I know makeup beauty, fashion icon Kim Chi on the pod today.

[Monet X Change]

Some would even say the destination of la.

[Kim Chi]

One girl who wouldn't say it. I know one girl who wouldn't. Honey, you're not the. You are a slave. But not the premier.

[Monet X Change]

My God. Just to be clear, I've never claimed that title. Naomi said it on Pissed up in Monet. And then next thing you know, my DM was like filled up with people like, yes, Leys and diva of la. And I'm like, what are these people talking about? Because I haven't seen the show at

[Kim Chi]

that time, the premiere. Also not Manila. Luzon, who's lived in LA forever and ever found dead. Manila. Angina found dead.

[Monet X Change]

Also Raja.

[Kim Chi]

Raja found dead, but also Manila.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Actually, Manila was a New York queen when she did drag race. No.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, when she did drag race.

[Commercial Announcer]

But.

[Kim Chi]

But I mean, she was there longer than Kim. And Raja's been there since. I think the tar pits were just getting started.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Boiling dinosaurs.

[Monet X Change]

But you know what? It's not just like one Asian queen. Takes rules all. You know, there can be many of us representing different aspects of drag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Give us a pageant era.

[Kim Chi]

I can't.

[Monet X Change]

Representation matters.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can we Get Shade. Shade Chi back. That's what. That's the Kim I need. Shade Chi.

[Monet X Change]

No, Shade Chi's been here.

[Kim Chi]

She's shady when she needs to be. Not shady just for the purpose of being shady. Kim understands the art of shade.

[Monet X Change]

It's not just shady with purpose, you know.

[Kim Chi]

Exactly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Shady with a purpose, Kim. Okay, so. So you haven't watched this season. Do you love? Do you hate?

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so I'm not gonna lie. When Jacob texted me this morning about doing this, and I'm like, oh, my God, I haven't seen the season. So then I went to the gym, and I walked in the treadmill, and then I, like, watched all the episodes it took, and I finally got four hours.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, it was four hours.

[Monet X Change]

Four hours.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

But, you know, there's. There's a lot to do at the gym.

[Ad Voice]

Baby.

[Kim Chi]

Kim was on that treadmill. Honey. Kim said, I live here now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I tell you that, like. So I have recently gotten into watching a program on. While doing cardio. How the time will fly.

[Monet X Change]

It goes so fast when you listen to music, especially when you know the music. Time goes by so slow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, yes. The music was talking about, so. But a show done.

[Monet X Change]

Especially the show that you haven't seen before. Sorry, didn't mean to interrupt you.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, no, you're fine. I was. I feel. It depends on what you're watching, though, right? I. What I have found works for me is either watching, like, Tony Award performances. Baby, I. I'll do maybe four, five. I'm like, oh, my God, 30 minutes have already passed. Once I'm. Once I'm. I'm on the. On the treadmill doing Anything goes with Sutton Foster. I'm like, girl, I can do a couple. I can do a couple more round.

[Monet X Change]

And also downside to watching this is, like, I watch a lot of Korean dramas too, and sometimes they get really sad and sappy. So I'm on the treadmill, crying as I'm watching this screaming, looking like a crazy person, like, crying on the treadmill.

[Kim Chi]

These people just going through their dramas, families dying, and you're like, this guy really loves working out.

[Monet X Change]

I'm like, who's that fat in the treadmill? Just like, crying because she doesn't want to be there.

[Kim Chi]

With that in mind, we should go ahead and hop into this episode. Here we have an episode called Bitch, I'm a Drag Queen, and Lucky Stars has just gone to the house. Yeah, they sent the girl home.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And, you know, I. I didn't see Lucky Star. I did not see Lucky Stars. Going home so soon. But she did. And I think now. Because what? Because Kim, I don't know how much. Yes, you caught up. But lucky and arietti have this, like, showmance and in on talk, lucky was being very cold. Like, yeah, that sucks. But now she's, like, getting very emotional, and I love to see the love that these two have for each other.

[Kim Chi]

I don't think she was cold. I think she was just, like, uncomfortable. But she, Arietty has been the driving force behind the showmance and lucky stars. Kind of, like, cool. Yay, sis. And arietti's like, give me that dingling. Give me that paper mache dingling, honey.

[Monet X Change]

Also, like, she wasn't in, like, a mood to, like, you know, like, celebrate, you know? So what is she supposed to do, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I guess.

[Monet X Change]

However, my favorite thing about watching drag queens on drag race is watching them get salty. That is my favorite thing.

[Kim Chi]

We stand salt. We.

[Monet X Change]

We love.

[Kim Chi]

I love a good. I love a good umami queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know what I mean? Salt bag.

[Monet X Change]

I love a good salt queen. I'm going to lick it like a salt lamp.

[Kim Chi]

So Arietti, Susie, and lucky are devastated that lucky stars has gone home. And Joella literally cannot understand why the girls, she's like, what the hell they mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know. I'm trying to think if there's anyone like that on season 10. I don't think there's anyone on season 10 that we got emotional, like, over emotional about. There's no one that we left. And we were all boohoo and crying. We were all like, okay, excited to see you go next. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

On our season two, like, at first, it was, like, sad the first couple episodes, but then after that, we're like, all right, whatever. Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

Well, to be fair, Kim and I were crying pretty hard when acid Betty got eliminated. I don't think it's because I don't think Kim was crying because that's a bit. I was crying because that's a bit. It went home and Kim was crying. Cause she was like, wow, this is a really hard competition. And I still hold this to this day. Kim. Me and Kim are side by side. It's a sad clown leaning on. Leaning on this crazy clown. And she goes. And we're both woohooing so bad. The more essay had to be like, bob, stop. Do you remember that? She goes, bob, stop. And then Kim's looking at me, and she goes, I didn't know it would be this hard. Like, as a sad clown. I didn't know it would Be this hard. We were both just balling like kimchi, watching the Korean drama on the treadmill.

[Monet X Change]

And, you know, luckily all of that was cut out. Like, you know, none of us saw there, thank God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you know what?

[Monet X Change]

As far as anyone, I didn't cry.

[Kim Chi]

It was actually Bob who cried, you know, I did. You got me there. So Arietta says, Arietta is like, so they're asking the girl if the girl's like, you know, congratulating girls and asking other girls how they felt. So Arietti, who, in my opinion, should have won the challenge, I like her outfit the best. Go when they like, hey, how did you feel? She goes, it is what it is. But that's what she said to the girl. But her confessional, she is like, I can't believe Sam Star wanting that ass, boot scooting boogie ass, Walmart ass, lame bus driver ass wig.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I, I will say the wig was suspicious. Like, I, I, I, as a kitty cat connoisseur, that was a suspicious kitty cat. Why?

[Kim Chi]

I thought it was a nice kitty cat.

[Monet X Change]

I kind of like that wig. I thought it was cute. It looks like something you would have worn on Work the World.

[Kim Chi]

Honestly, it does. It was like a styled kit. It was not like a shake and go. It was a, literally a styled nice kitty cat wig.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It looked like a helmet. It looked like it was hard. It looked like a helmet.

[Monet X Change]

It's like a finger wave. It had a little volume in it, you know, I was not mad. You know.

[Kim Chi]

Do you think it's better than the kitty cash? You were on Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why are you trying to be funny, though?

[Kim Chi]

I'm asking. This is a legitimate question, Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know you're trying to be funny.

[Kim Chi]

I'm just. You don't have to answer. I'll answer.

[Monet X Change]

Get her, Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's better than the ones you are on Drag Race.

[Kim Chi]

Okay, first of all, I, I, I still stand by this for the most part, almost across the board. I had great. But not only did I have pretty good wigs, my wigs, every wig I wore was better than every wig you wore on Drag Race. That's just true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Never. Bob, the fucking red one that you wore in the, in the, in the, what is it? The octoroons? What is it called?

[Kim Chi]

We were. That wig is that red bowl cut. I love that. That red bowl cut was the fucking

[Bob the Drag Queen]

two tone Madonna wig.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, oh, the Madonna wig, also great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Give, can you please give? Talk to me as a Madonna superfan. Tell me about this, about, about this Madonna wig.

[Kim Chi]

Who had the best wigs? The question me or Monet on our original seasons.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I'm coming into this like and looking at this objectively.

[Kim Chi]

Objectively. Bring up some receipts, Jacob.

[Monet X Change]

Objectively as like an outsider who is not involved in any and not taking any size. I would say Bob did have nicer wigs coming into Drag Race.

[Kim Chi]

Thank you.

[Monet X Change]

Especially some of like there was like a custom hairline one.

[Kim Chi]

Thank you.

[Monet X Change]

With that being said, I don't know if the wigs all fit properly, but they were nicer wigs that you brought in.

[Kim Chi]

Well, I did not learn Kim's art of big wiggery. Kim knows how to get the wigs. But a big headed hose. Big headed girls need special wigs. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. So as we keep going on. So it's a new day, right? And Arietti is called out for being quiet because the girl like do us the impersonation of each other. So then I think Sam star does impersonate Mary Yeti where she's quiet and. And then Arrietty says a cunty bitch doesn't have to say much, but an ugly bitch does. And she sends it to Sam Starr. I was like, jesus Christ.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, honestly, I think I agree with her. It was pretty egregious that she did not win that song competition. I think her outfit was light years beyond Sam's. So I mean, she's probably just still really pent up and salty about that, which I agree.

[Monet X Change]

But you know, sometimes I genuinely feel like some of these winners are chosen to be like social media bait because if everybody won that where the general public agreed with, no one would be talking about the show on social media and things. So sometimes I feel like they purposely give the win to someone maybe that wasn't the right winner. And then it gets people talking. They get talking. People talking on social media.

[Kim Chi]

Do you two think you've ever been robbed of a win or given a win you didn't deserve?

[Monet X Change]

No, probably not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think on All Stars 7, there were definitely some I could have won that I did not for sure.

[Kim Chi]

Were you ever given a win you didn't deserve?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll give the one I didn't deserve either one. I'm trying to think like either one. Either season I was on, you mean.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, sure.

[Ad Voice]

I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What did I win on? I don't remember. In. In my view, probably not. But in others, not the main win.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, the kitty cat. Honestly, I actually like that kitty cat. That's a nice kitty cat. Actually, I like that one.

[Monet X Change]

That one. I Like, I think I was robbed during Perfect.

[Kim Chi]

Okay, who won? Victor. Oh, Chichi.

[Commercial Announcer]

No.

[Kim Chi]

Chichi did a good job. Gigi ate big. Perfect. Now. She did.

[Monet X Change]

She was as good as me, you know? But, yeah, they.

[Kim Chi]

They edited out Kimchi doing it upside down, which is shady to me. Get on that clock.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That. No, I'm kidding.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not gonna take chichi. Shine away.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

RuPaul comes in. He announces the maxi challenge, and the girls are creating commercials for I'm a Dragon Volume 1 and 2, which is basically a musical acting challenge, kind of. So this is what people are doing. Susie is on the Valentina. You're perfect. You're beautiful. You look like a model. Sam is doing Kandy and Tamisha. Star quality.

[Kim Chi]

Everyone's. This is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you. We don't have to. We don't have to.

[Kim Chi]

I thought about writing them all down. I was like, this is a lot, but you can do. I mean, it's fine. What are the highlights from it that you. That you saw? Like, ones that you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm just. Because there's still more in between that.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anya's doing Put your lighters up. Lydia is doing no class, no manners, which I don't remember. Like, no one cares about Morgan McMichaels thing from that we only care about Bitch, I'm from Chicago. No one cares about Morgan had to say no.

[Kim Chi]

No.

[Monet X Change]

The iconic. Sweetie, you need to fix your hair. Fix your mug. Yeah, that's Morgan McMichaels. Me and Violet Touchkey quote that to each other all the time.

[Kim Chi]

I mean, I did write down. I wrote down no class, no matter should recall, bitch, I'm from Chicago.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Like, I was like, why that? Lexi's doing this is yous Moment. Lana's doing the Morgan Michaels part of the no class of manners. Corey is doing Don't. Like, that's another one. Trade. Oh, no, trade. Trade in, like, the session. Right. Joella is doing we write the stories. That was another random one. I was like, Mariah. Like, why that?

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so Mariah's, like, a amazing queen, you know? But all the other, like, speeches were very, like, prolific and, like, iconic. And Mariah's speech, like, I genuinely, like, don't remember seeing it. And I had to, like, go look it up. And I'm like, this. Yeah. Why would they pick this one?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it was so. Because Drag Race, we have so many iconic things. Why? That was so weird.

[Monet X Change]

But I'm happy for Mariah, you know, get her little moment to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, Jules is doing back rolls. Harmonica is doing. I nominate Myself by Chanel Crystal is doing unprofessional. Another weird one to me. Oh, no. Yeah, it was arietty's doing back rolls with Jules and Acacia. Star quality with Sam.

[Kim Chi]

I don't know why it drove me so crazy. You read all those. I was like, this is. I'm. This is. You're killing me. This is killing me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

People who listen to the podcast, why. They want. They want clarity.

[Kim Chi]

I'm assuming they already know because they want. They watch the show. That's not the point. That's not the point. The point is, I really liked. If I would have got one, I would have wanted the glamazon one that Cory King pulled. That's such. Such a great. It's probably one of the greatest, like, monologues. It's up there with, you're perfect. You're beautiful. You're like a model.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I. I'm annoyed that, like, I. I hate that they. They. They chose it. But you didn't know what your genre was. Because I'm like, that's a big part of it. Like, so, I mean, I guess that's also part of the challenge is whatever it is, you just have to do it.

[Kim Chi]

But you don't choose them. You just take the one on top. They weren't choosing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Yeah, right. So, like, I'm.

[Kim Chi]

I'm.

[Ad Voice]

I'm.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm. It sucks to me that you like, you. You're just. You're just thrusted with. With a genre that you may not do. Like, Joella doing gospel. She maybe should have been better doing country and western. I don't know.

[Kim Chi]

But you would. Didn't pick them. They. They were just given one. So they would have gotten the genre no matter what. They can't change the genre.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know. I'm saying that part sucks about the challenge, not not being able to choose a genre that you get.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, and then I would love to have to let the queens, you know, like, fight over, like, which genre that they wanted. Yeah, that would have provided great drama too, instead of, like, just getting stuck with whatever they pulled.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I agree.

[Kim Chi]

RuPaul says. RuPaul says these are not imitations. You're not doing impersonations. Make it your own. She wants it to be reimagined. And then at some point, I hear Jules being like, I'm gonna channel Alyssa. And I was like, ooh, that's not what she has said. But it didn't end up affecting it, because I don't think she really channeled her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm about to say she ain't Shannon. If she was channeling Alyssa, it wasn't. That would. That didn't read for me in her thing.

[Kim Chi]

Can I say one of my favorite things is when they're. When they're listening to their music. I just wrote this down. Love. Alana goes, I pray for something cunt. I love it when I pray for something that is like, I want to show this. I pray for something cunt. That is such a unintentionally brilliant line. I pray for something cunt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think we see Crystal taking the. Taking on this, like, group leader role. And it always surprises me to this day on Drag Race.

[Kim Chi]

Wait, we went too far. I want to. We scooped over something real quick. Harmona Lisa is sitting here in a shake and go wig saying she has never worn a shake and go wig. And before, it wasn't inside. I was like, bitch, you are. I've like, in a shake and go wig saying, I have never worn. That's how she goes. And I don't even think she shook it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A hard front wig. Not even a girl. Not even a lace front. A hard front shake and girl wig is crazy.

[Kim Chi]

It's in the Roscoe's Drag hall of Fame now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is. It is.

[Kim Chi]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah. Then I saw another clip that she gave it to somebody else somewhere else.

[Monet X Change]

Has a. I'm sure she has multiples of this wig.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, multiple. She's a Santa Claus. Going to different gigs and giving this wig to different people. That's crazy.

[Kim Chi]

To be fair, she probably bought them in, but she could have bought five at a time. They don't look terribly expensive if we're

[Bob the Drag Queen]

going to keep it a buck.

[Monet X Change]

Do you remember Peppermint's border wig?

[Kim Chi]

Border? What do you mean, border?

[Monet X Change]

So on work the world tour, Peppermint had a wig that, like, she kept in her bag. And then every time we cross the border between Canada and, like, North America and then we have to, like, like, show our passports and all that, Peppermint put on this wig.

[Kim Chi]

It's probably the hair she's wearing on

[Bob the Drag Queen]

the passport in the picture.

[Monet X Change]

Probably.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So then we call it.

[Monet X Change]

We ended up calling that wig the border wig.

[Kim Chi]

I'm screaming at the border wig.

[Commercial Announcer]

Word.

[Kim Chi]

The border.

[Monet X Change]

Here comes the border wig.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My worst part about a fucking bus tour is having to wake up at 4 o' clock in the morning or 3 o' clock in the morning to have to fucking cross the border. Anyway.

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[Kim Chi]

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[Kim Chi]

So for some reason, Sam seems to be annoyed by Butthole. Like, Sam, right before they start recording, Sam is just like, not featuring Butthole's drag. Like, she's like, no hit pads and no something else again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kim Chi]

And I was like, is there beef

[Commercial Announcer]

we don't know about?

[Monet X Change]

But also at this point I said we accepted as drag community, it's okay not to pad.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I think we did too. But Sam is definitely like, she can tell she's an old school southern type of drag person. She probably doesn't feature that type of drag at all, which is her prerogative. But yeah, I mean, at this day and age, I mean, I think I see, I see if you go to a bar, you will go and see a couple of bitches with no pads on because they want to have their toes out and legs out and yada, yada, yada.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, you can have your toes out, not your legs. You can have your knees down. You can even have like high thigh down and wear a pad. I mean, I still wear a pad. I think it, in my humble opinion. I do think that most queens look better with pads on, in my opinion. Unless you're wearing something that doesn't, that doesn't hug your body. But what do I know? I'm just, I'm just some drag queen.

[Monet X Change]

I think it's fine if you like proportionalize it. Like if I see queens like fully padded with hip, but then they wear no breasts or like they'll pat the side of the hips, but then they don't feel the back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So then it's like, yeah, girl, that being, that's the Part.

[Ad Voice]

What do you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you go all the time putting hip pads on and no butts. When you turn to the side and you are just, like, shot in the

[Monet X Change]

back, you know, if you're gonna do it, like, fully, like, sculpt yourself, you know, don't do it, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that's a part that'd be a little fishy for me. So I. I was saying, Crystal is taking on this lead before they even get into the challenge. Like Wendy does working the workroom. Crystal's taking on the lead group leader role of her team, and it's Tilt. It surprises me when girls do this on Drag Race, because at this point, I can't think of the last challenge when Rude judged it as a group. Like, I can't think of maybe season three. Like, that has been a thing. So why would you put yourself, like, in this position?

[Kim Chi]

They judged as a group on our.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On our season, on season eight.

[Commercial Announcer]

They did.

[Ad Voice 2]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

And they probably done it. I'm sure they've done it after that. I'm sure.

[Monet X Change]

Also, it changes, like, depending on, like, how the girls do sometimes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Like, they'll be like, all right, we're gonna judge this group this time.

[Kim Chi]

I mean, it does make sense. If a group is overwhelmingly bad. You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To have a leader.

[Kim Chi]

No. To judge by groups. If one team is overwhelmingly bad, then I say yes. Judging by groups.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where's my thing? Do you think. Do you think they decide that. Do you think, like, ruin them? Decide that, like, after they see them, they're like, okay, this was so bad. We have to do this.

[Commercial Announcer]

I would.

[Monet X Change]

100%. Yeah. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I think you should know that going in.

[Monet X Change]

But, you know, like, Drag Race has never been about, like, let's give the best person or whatever, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Every winner was chosen, you know, for a political statement or, you know, for a reason.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

But sometimes they get it right.

[Monet X Change]

Not our season, but.

[Kim Chi]

So, okay. One thing that drives me. How do you guys not know this? Like, Tumbleweed rolls with wind when, like, you come away. Is not just, like, picking up momentum by itself. They're like, let's just toss it. Like, girl, no. Tumbleweed is being blown through. I don't know how they don't know that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And I also think if she was gonna play the Tumbleweed, they should have, like, stuck some straw on her or something, because out of context, she's just rolling in the back. You don't understand what it's supposed to be. I'm like, girl, they have just cut some of it and glue it on her elbows or like on her. Like it just looked. She could have held. She could have held it in her hands and tumb. Okay, that's a. How you gonna hold in your hand and tumble?

[Kim Chi]

You just hold it. Just.

[Monet X Change]

But also, you're expecting drag queens to like know gravity and science and all this too, you know, like.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, physics y statistics. What's that queen? Who's that queen from Kind. The queen from Canada who's like a mathematician.

[Monet X Change]

A kind.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, she, you know, she's like a. She's like a legit mathematician. It's kind of crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, she released a book. I wrote the blurb for it. So. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh my God. I. I've written. I've written a forward on a book before too. Bob. Have you written a forward on a book before?

[Monet X Change]

Bob, It's a book.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He wrote a book.

[Kim Chi]

I wrote a whole book. Wait, Kim, do you still do any graphic design work at all?

[Monet X Change]

Not really.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, okay, that makes sense. You're doing other stuff

[Monet X Change]

anyway.

[Kim Chi]

I wrote down that hitting someone in the face with a powder puff but not using a lot of powder seemed crazy to me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I agree. I really should have had like. It should have been like a slight gag. But also. Well, I guess at this point you don't care if your makeup gets ruined. But. And it's also just powder. It'll brush off. But yeah, I agree. Like, you're. She's. You're hitting it, but there's no effect.

[Monet X Change]

There's no like, you know, just based on like how like the queens are doing. I was like, a lot of them don't have like, experience like producing and like directing because these are the little details that only people who have done it before would know or even like how things are going to read on camera, like costuming wise.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

I also don't like that when queens have to be funny, they're like, I have to do my makeup crazy. Yeah. And I'm like, why can't you just like do your standard face and then just do something funny like, like smear

[Monet X Change]

their makeup for like a stand up routine? And I'm like, that's not really funny. You just have bad makeup.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, I'm like, I don't, I don't. I. I don't personally get it. I mean, I don't. And I like, it just didn't make it. One of the. I can't remember one of the. We had these giant lips that they would never do. I was like, this doesn't look good. And it doesn't make sense, guys. Like, come on, let's, let's. Let's think. Let's think. Like, let's not think this far outside of the box, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I don't. I. I don't.

[Monet X Change]

I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't remember seeing that.

[Kim Chi]

And Harmona was. They felt like Harmona wasn't doing a lot, but she felt like she's doing enough. And to be honest, in the end, I think I thought it worked.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, she was the.

[Monet X Change]

She was the Chanel.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, are we talking about. Are doing them recording it or the.

[Kim Chi]

When she was recording it, the girls were like, she's not doing enough. But then when they play back, it looked like she was doing a lot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I would say so too. And also I think that when Corey was doing hers, like, I was, like, trusting, like, Corey's vision. Cause Corey seems to be a pretty funny person and she understands comedy a little bit. So I'm, like, trusting the process. I'm like, you know what? It's one of those things that looks crazy doing it, but it's gonna turn out well.

[Kim Chi]

Cut to. Let's go to group number two. So Susie. I think Susie has some really good ideas. Susie seems to be a really seasoned performer who knows how to get her message across very easily.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I wonder what. I mean, she's from Florida. Does she. I know she's a theater queen. Mean, like, she likes theater. Do we know that? Did she work in, like, does she work in theater? Do you know?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, let me call her up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hey, Susie. Jacob, see if you can figure it out really quick.

[Kim Chi]

And I mean, Anya. Also, I'm noticing Anya doesn't seem terribly interested in working with the group, like, in general. She's. She's giving herself very much lone wolf vibes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I agree. I hate group projects. I hate group projects. I don't like them at school. I don't like them at work. I hate doing with other people. Like, when. When I feel that there's, like, there's like, a lot on the line, I. I don't like relying on other people with my work.

[Kim Chi]

Kim, how do you feel about doing the. The group numbers on Work the World?

[Monet X Change]

So they always come with so much drama. Always, always, always, like, there's always a queen who thinks, like, she's, like, too cool to do, like, certain parts, so then, like, they'll get in, like, fights with everybody. Rehearsal is always a nightmare because, like, everybody always, like, flies in, like, several days before, but there's always like, that one queen who would, like, fly, like, on the last day just because, like, to hold power over so then everybody, like, rehearses over and over again. And when the queen gets there, we have to, like, basically teach her and then rehearse over and over again. So then everybody's, like, exhausted, and then fully give.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

[Monet X Change]

And then, like, that queen is always, like, the messing up. And, like, you guys never taught me, and I'm like, you showed up late.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You showed up late.

[Kim Chi]

How do you feel about. Did you have any thoughts about the group. The group numbers on Work the Realm?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I. My first time going to Work the World, I think I was just always just excited to be on tour with, like, all these Drag Race queens that I loved, and I always wanted to work with. So I was just more sort of

[Kim Chi]

like, oh, my God, I get to

[Bob the Drag Queen]

do numbers with all these girls. The second time I did Work the World, I was like, all right. I was like, these group numbers, they're so fun, though. I actually like them. I think I like it all the time. I like. I love chaos and the grooming. Group numbers of work. The world is chaos. People don't want to do this. People can't do this. It's like the energy is so chaotic, and I kind of love it.

[Monet X Change]

And also, it is kind of, like, cheesy, but that's what I like about it. I love, like, cheesy parts of drag, too. You know, like, we can be, like, grand for our own numbers. And then, like, group numbers were like,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know the group numbers be so cheesy. Put your right foot in and put your right hand.

[Kim Chi]

Well, any of you, I don't know if. I don't know if Kim's still working the world. She's done a lot of time. But I will tell you this. If any of you girls want to know how to work the world, talk to Kim Chi. When I. You did the Halloween show a couple years ago when I came, was that you? Did you do the Halloween show?

[Monet X Change]

I did.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, baby. When I came back to the. When I tell you, Kim has it down to a science. The other girls are backstage trying to get their stuff together. Baby, Kim is. Kim's waiting to know you at the dough. Kim's bag is packed. Kim has.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She. She.

[Kim Chi]

She meticulously plans her outfit that she is wearing. Like, the thing that's the. That's the easy to take over the end. She is so meticulous that Kim is not only putting on a Great show. Wearing fantastic outfits, but she is ready to. When. When I tell y', all, Kim, don't play around. Kim is efficient at these.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my bag is, like, fully, like, packed and closed even before the show is over.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, it's very impressive. I was gagging. I was like. Because when I had left, you hadn't quite figured out the system yet. When I came back, I was like, oh, my God, Kim. She's like, yeah, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Kim and Naomi taught me a lot about touring. I learned. I learned. I really learned how to tour a lot from Kim and Naomi. Like, Naomi laying out. Naomi laying out every rhinestone nail hair of a brush that she might use is all. I'm like, okay, that's good. Good to know.

[Kim Chi]

So back to Drag Race. The girls don't sound like they're living for what Lexi's doing. And she's doing the Jasmine Kennedy. I'm trying to think like, Monet, were you gagged that you didn't have a moment in there?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I don't think. I don't think I have any moments on Drag Race that would. Jesus.

[Kim Chi]

No point. There's no big. Like. I think it's got to be, like, a big monologue, low key, or a huge fight.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Do y'.

[Kim Chi]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you. Do y'.

[Kim Chi]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do y' all have one? Y' all think that would have been. Belonged in there?

[Kim Chi]

No, we didn't really have any monologues. I mean, we had. We had a fight between Derek and Naomi in the fight between me and Derek, and I think that was, like, the biggest fights of our season.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I mean, maybe. I mean, I think. I think if it was. They weren't such controversial figures at this point. I think maybe Eureka and Vixen could have some, but I just don't think they. You know, the Vixen and Eureka had so many moments our season. So many, baby, you don't know me.

[Kim Chi]

So they. They reveal the reveal that Corey King is trying to do is not giving the fantasy she thinks it is giving. She was so excited to go grab that fucking dress, But I was like, girl, that is. She bedazzled crusted. Maybe it's a sequin dress.

[Monet X Change]

She's like, I'm gonna be a chicken. And then she just, like, ran with that chicken idea. But, like, the original spirit of Kendrick's speech wasn't even being a chicken.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah, it was. And also. Cause she was grabbing the dress that she revealed to the one that she had on from the episode before, but I was like, it's not, like, iconic enough.

[Commercial Announcer]

Or.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or maybe in the season, she felt that this dress would have more moment. Like, it would be. There'll be more weight to it. But it didn't really have the weight she thought it was gonna have.

[Monet X Change]

She thought this dress was gonna be, like, her sponge dress.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Like, it didn't think so.

[Kim Chi]

But also, the thing is, like, she should have done, like, they should have done, like, a TikTok reveal where she's actually wearing the dress and then someone grabs it and rips it off. But then they just cut the cameras and they just pull it, and it looks like they ripped it off, versus just laying the. Laying the dress on top of your. Laying a stretch. Stretch, which, by the way, is smaller than your body on top of your gigantic hips. I was like, girl, what is happening here?

[Monet X Change]

But with that being said, we love. We love delusion. That's another my favorite aspect of drug that I love. I love delusional queens.

[Kim Chi]

Well, last thing I'll say about Corey, too. I do think that Corey actually. I do think there was a way to edit Corey's thing to be funny, but I do think on a base level, it wasn't that funny. Also, she was like, comedy comes in so many different forms, and I am not a physical comedian. My humor is rarely through my body. Sometimes it's like a little bit of waist up. If I'm doing like, this, like, Simone in person, that can be kind of funny or, you know, the Utica hoo he ha ha. Like, there's a physical aspects to that thing, but, like, falling is such a specific form of comedy that I don't do. So just because you're funny doesn't mean you will be good at physical comedy. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And on the heels of delusion, I love this moment on Drag Race when everyone comes back for the challenge, whether it be this improv thing or Snatch Game, I'd be like, everyone is confident. Everyone feels like they nailed it. Everyone thinks that, oh, I know I was funny. I know I'm not in the bottom. Everyone is so confident. I'm like, I love that because it's so delusional. But also, you don't have an audience to react to. So you think I definitely suffer from this. On Drag Race, I remember coming back from Whitney Houston, I was like, honestly, put me on. Put me on snl, girl. I put me on snl, baby.

[Kim Chi]

I get so mad. I told you not to do that, and you did it. I told you. I told you. I also love. This is the. This is the schadenfreude.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To me.

[Kim Chi]

But I also love when they come back and everyone's like, girl, I'm in the bottom. I love when they come back and they're like, girl, this is the shittiest week we've ever done. Girl, none of us are gonna be in it. None of us ate. Girl, no one ate.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was there a challenge for Wolfie on season eight that y' all felt like

[Kim Chi]

that, where no one ate? No, we. Honestly, we had a pretty talented season, and we. A few people flopped, but no one. There was never like a. We all. We never had, like, a season four Snatch Game, but not all of y'. All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm just saying this. Was there a challenge individually that y' all like. Y' all went and y' all was like, oh, I killed it. Or you thought you did really bad and you actually did really good.

[Commercial Announcer]

One.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's not one chance that both of y' all felt that way or one of y'.

[Ad Voice 2]

All.

[Kim Chi]

There's times I thought I did bad, and I did do bad. I did, I did. I thought I did poorly, and I did do poorly, but I never thought I did great and did poorly, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And vice versa.

[Kim Chi]

I mean, I, I, I still to this day think that my book look was great, but I didn't enrich the materials, apparently. Do you think. Do you think your book look was better than Chi Chi's? No, I didn't say I should have won the challenge. Do you think it was better than Kim's, and do you think it was better than Naomi's?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, everyone that was there. No, wait, who else?

[Kim Chi]

There was with someone else there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Derek.

[Kim Chi]

And it was better than Derek's. It was better than Derek Barry's.

[Commercial Announcer]

That is.

[Kim Chi]

Everyone will give you that. Is there no one else there besides us?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Those are five of y'. All top five?

[Kim Chi]

Oh, yeah. Then I guess. I guess I should have been the bottom two.

[Monet X Change]

No. But also, like, the entire season had been leading up to, like, Bob versus Derek Lip sync. So, you know, it made sense. You know,

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[Kim Chi]

So Crystal feels very confident because she took. She took on a leadership role. But then there's a moment where every time Joella opens her mo about feeling good, the other girls are all like, oh, Whenever Joe, whenever. Joella cannot breathe without these girls being like, okay, okay.

[Monet X Change]

I am, like, kind of obsessed with Joella. I feel like she's, like, the flavor that's been missing from Drag Race again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Look at my. Look at my screensaver. I'm obsessed.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God.

[Kim Chi]

Girl. We are. We are currently living in the Joella dynasty, honey. We are. We are. We are so lucky to be in the time of the Joella dynasty. Ms. Thing.

[Monet X Change]

Honestly, like, I want her in every episode. I just want to see her be her, you know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cam, imagine. Imagine Joella coming to a game night.

[Monet X Change]

Which game would he play with her?

[Kim Chi]

No one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't imagine Joelle playing Secret Hitler. I don't know.

[Kim Chi]

What if she's the super Smash Brothers queen and she eats you down? Then what?

[Monet X Change]

I feel like that's not possible.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. No way.

[Monet X Change]

Not. Not with this. Not with this lineup.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. So Kim and I, for sure.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, like, our game night already gets so tense because between you, Monet, me, Selena, please, Naomi, Andy, and. And then other people like to throw there. Like, we are all very, like, chaotic, competitive people. So.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, see, so the girls are all

[Kim Chi]

saying when they started drag, I'm a Pride queen. How about y'? All your college? College show?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was college. It was. First time in drag was college, but the first time I did it, like, in the world, like, for real was pride.

[Monet X Change]

Mine was Halloween.

[Kim Chi]

You're Halloween queen. Are we shame? Like, why would I, like, shame? Like, shaming Halloween queens is a thing that I didn't. I didn't realize. Like, boo, you're a Halloween queen. I said, on my season, like, there's. There's. Most queens do two of these things. Halloween or Pride. Like, a lot of queens are Halloween queens or Pride Queen. I was a Pride queen, and I didn't know we were shaming Halloween queens. Now, that seems wild to me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think if we do that pride. You like finding yourself. You like being okay with being gay. You're going out to Pride, like, as, like, a fucking drag queen. Who's the most? Literally, we are. We are the most. But we. That is our equinox. We're the most powerful at Pride versus Halloween, where everybody wants to be a sexy whatever, and they just throw on a wig and Be slutty. You know what I mean? Halloween.

[Kim Chi]

Kim just told you she's a Halloween queen. This is crazy.

[Monet X Change]

You know what, Monet? I guess you win. I guess you're better than us. If that helps you sleep at night, good for you. You win.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. So Lexi was thrown out of her home for being queer. And this is a story that we get on Drag Race a lot. She was, like, thrown out, clothes out the window, and she lived in, like, a not evacuated, dilapidated, foreclosed home. But she was like. But honestly, it was better than. It was better than being with my family.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Girl, I can imagine. That sounds so traumatic. Sounds so traumatic.

[Kim Chi]

As queens who I think have connected to their culture on RuPaul's Drag Race, it's really cool to see Anya and Joella having a conversation. But also, Joella did. I mean, she came in that traditional Chinese inspired dragon, which I think was really fierce. Have we had that many Chinese drag queens on the show? I feel like we only had, like, two Chinese drag queens on the show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We have. You are.

[Kim Chi]

And Joella.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who else?

[Monet X Change]

But also, I personally love seeing, like, cultural looks on Drag Race because culture is not a custom, so we. We can't see anybody else do it. So even if queens is, like, not in touch with the culture, I love to see them, like, research it, get to know more about their culture, and then have a chance to, like, showcase those looks. Looks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Like, I personally love that, so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do too.

[Kim Chi]

But what's her name did a very Asian inspired look on the Runway. Lana Jarret.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When?

[Kim Chi]

Today on this episode on the Runway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was Asian inspired.

[Kim Chi]

You'll see it. You'll see it when you get there.

[Monet X Change]

I was gonna say, which one is she? I can't remember.

[Kim Chi]

The tall, skinny one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know.

[Ad Voice]

Lux.

[Kim Chi]

But stretched out. When we get to a whistle, I don't mind. I went too early. So, in fact, we're here. Let's look at the Runway. Is RuPaul wearing pads? It looks like she's not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. It's an interesting dress. I mean, RuPaul normally has body on, and I've heard through the grapevine that he, like, he, like, RuPaul is like, I'm going to wear body, like, whatever.

[Monet X Change]

But, you know, RuPaul's on so many seasons. You know, if Sean's like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm just gonna wear a flowy dress and notepads. You know what? Who am I to judge?

[Kim Chi]

I mean, I'm not judging. She looks pretty good. This dress is not terribly form fitting. But, like, is Ru now one of the no padding girls?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe. I wish she was. I wish she was one of these get my hair done girls. Because this wig was crazy.

[Kim Chi]

What's wrong with it? I'm not. It's so small. I don't remember looking at it too hard.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

It does look like it had, like, been in luggage and gotten a little flat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Literally. This is like this, like, she's on. She's on a show show. 38 of 40 of work the World Michelle looks.

[Kim Chi]

Michelle looks amazing. Can I say, one of the best times I ever had on Work the World was when we decided to bring a hairdresser on tour. I don't know why that was not being done every single time, every single

[Monet X Change]

wear, every single game, honestly.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, my God, y'.

[Monet X Change]

All.

[Kim Chi]

I'll say some.

[Monet X Change]

Some girls did take, like, advantage of it, where.

[Kim Chi]

Yes, they don't.

[Monet X Change]

They'll literally give, like, 10 wigs to the stylist. All of these. And then, yes, they'll just, like, take those wigs to their gigs and not even, like, tip the hairdresser.

[Kim Chi]

Yes, they did. Yes, they did, Kim.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I've only done work the role with it with the wig styles. But that was also the tour that the wig styles. One of the queens got into a fight and had to leave the tour at some point. And I was like, this is.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, girl. That wig styles was always fighting the queens. That wig styles got into probably the same queen got into in an epic showdown at Universal Studios. I mean, epic. Screaming. Yeah. Were you there for this cam?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I was. Oh, I fully. I remember every detail because I was, like, so mad. So Bob and I. So there are half the people who drink and the other half who doesn't drink. And we were on, like, a guided tour where they could basically take us through all the rides, like, through the back. So we get to, like, go through all the rides. But all the drinkers wanted to get a drink after every single ride. So then all the non drinkers were literally, like, hanging around for 30 minutes waiting these people to, like, getting drunk. So then they're like, can we split the group in half? And they're like, yeah, we'd love to split the group for you. So the non drinkers can keep on going on the rides and the drinkers can, like, do things at their own pace. And then one queen's like, no, everybody wants to stay together. Why are you trying to split the group? I'm like, we're not even hanging out you guys are just getting drunk anyways.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. And then. And then during the showdown, it was it, y'. All. I mean, one of the biggest fights I've ever seen that didn't actually come to blows. Like, it was disrupting the entire restaurant scream. We were in a private section, but still the whole restaurant was like, what is. Is happening in there?

[Monet X Change]

Yes. Oh, yes. I also remember that. Yep, yep. Yo, that's why I tell y'.

[Kim Chi]

All. I'm telling you right now, these producers are not making these. Any girl, who told you the producers make them fight. They're lying. Drag queens fight on their own, of their own. Even when cameras aren't around, the queens are fighting, I assure you. We should go into these looks, though.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. That was also the same day where I got called the N word by a drunk person. Do you remember that?

[Kim Chi]

I remember. I'm the one that told you. I'm the one that told you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y' all. See, y' all let me say something. This season, ten girls and up. We are. We are nice and sweet and kind. These older.

[Kim Chi]

It wasn't a queen. It wasn't a queen that called it Kim the N word. But I went and I told Kim. I was like, this is what. This is what this person just said to you about you. He was like, don't tell her. Don't tell her, please. And I was like, no, no, I'm going directly to her. That was crazy. That was insane.

[Monet X Change]

And meanwhile, I was just, like, sitting there just, like, minding my own business, literally doing nothing.

[Kim Chi]

Monet literally just sitting there, like, either, like, drinking something, e something, or just walk, looking around, looking at her ticket. And I was like, what the fuck? I'm going to talk to Kim about what you just said. That was insane.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or let's go on to the running. Which category was. It was quilted. Quilted for the gods or something like that.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, Quilted for your. Quilted for her pleasure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Quilted for her pleasure.

[Kim Chi]

So, okay, I think I've come to the conclusion that I don't think I appreciate Butthole's perspective on garments. Like, what am I looking at?

[Monet X Change]

Is this a cat lady one?

[Kim Chi]

No. Yeah, she's the couch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, wait, wait. Sorry, sorry. Kim, Jacob should probably send you the doc with. With the looks.

[Monet X Change]

I'm looking at the doc, but I. I still don't have. Like, I still can't tell the queens apart. Like, a lot of the queens.

[Kim Chi]

This is Lydia Butthole Collins, who was doing the. Who was doing. She was the cat. The cat. The couch. Oh, yeah, The Cat lady lets her cats.

[Monet X Change]

But, you know, this is actually one of my favorite looks, and I feel like the cat lady look, of course, has been done on, like, the main stage before, but, you know, like, cat lady representation matters, too.

[Kim Chi]

I get. I just don't. I don't. Maybe. Maybe this drag is too conceptual for me. What do you think, Monet? We need a tiebreaker.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think that. I think that what I've struggled with Lydia before is I can't tell. I don't like the proportions of what she made. Like, that yellow thing. It was just a hodgepodge of mess where this. I like that we can see. Like, we can see her. Her waist section, obviously, her midsection.

[Kim Chi]

Now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love that she is. I never. I've never seen a white person with this much body lotion or oil ever. This bitch is lubricated more than.

[Kim Chi]

Is it glitter?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I think it's lubricated. I think she's lubricated. I think it's lotion. She want to work or oil. So I like that. And I do think the. I didn't know what y'.

[Ad Voice]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did not like it before, but now I know that she is a cat that scratched a couch. I was like, oh, that's why she doesn't have any hands, and that's why, like, the thing is spilling out. So I like it. It's not a. It's not a. A shoot, but it's. It's a toot for me. I like this outfit.

[Monet X Change]

I'll say, like, one thing I wish she did better was, like, a little more contrast in the outfit because, like, the cat just kind of, like, it's dark, so it just blends in with the background and then everything else.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's the cat? Where there's a cat on it.

[Monet X Change]

There's a cat on it. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I didn't. I didn't even see that.

[Monet X Change]

Like, I wish the cat was, like, a little. Or I wish there's, like, multiple cats on the outfit. Just, like, driving home the point instead of just like a cat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I also think, y', all, this is something that Drag Race needs to address or something now is this new stage. That's this sleek black thing. When girls wear black on the Runway, it loses so much definition. You can't, like, really see stuff before y'.

[Ad Voice]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If. Y'.

[Ad Voice 2]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If I remember this, it used to be a silver tee, so you can see more dimension when someone wears black. Now when you wear black, it just disappears on the stage.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Kim Chi]

Also, when me and Kim were on Drag Race. The stage was literally a tee. There was no. There was negative space. If you fell off the stage, you would fall, like, four feet to the ground. But then directly after our season, they put in these platforms, and the girls are lip syncing all throughout the platform. They're walking around. We had to lip sync on the tee.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, no, no. Season 10, they only put it for challenges. For season 10, we were still. We were also the tease as well, which is crazy.

[Kim Chi]

We were lip syncing on this little two strips.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, you lip synced.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, I did, Kim. I did. I did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bitch. Gather that fucking.

[Kim Chi]

I've already gathered, Kim. Okay, let's gather that, honey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go to Alana Jarret. I thought her makeup was so beautiful. The colors on her eyes, doing the white eyebrows. I thought I. I thought the concept was beautiful. And I. I like this look from the shins up. I don't like the things on her shins or her legs.

[Ad Voice]

Ooh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They were weird to me. But everything else.

[Kim Chi]

This outfit. Not Sailor Moon. Am I crazy?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sailor Moon. It's.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it's kind of like a wrinkled Sailor Moon.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, like, it's got, like, the thing. No, like, just quilts, but. No, but the.

[Ad Voice]

The.

[Monet X Change]

That.

[Kim Chi]

That thing Sailor Moon does with the. The school girl thingy. Yeah, she could be like, this is a really unique. So I was like, this is. Girl. This is cool. To Sailor Moon, I would say she

[Monet X Change]

looks very beautiful, but I think, like, her outfit is kind of like, I'm going to burning men. But I don't. I don't know if there was, like, a much concept to it. It.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, I think that she.

[Monet X Change]

It's just, like, colors and wrinkles.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, she does look at the wrinkles. Re.

[Kim Chi]

She does look good, but I. I do think she thought she ate harder than she did. But she does look good, but I think. But how much of that is just that she happens to be very. Are you in a tornado? Is there earthquake where you are?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think.

[Kim Chi]

I think most of it. She happens to be really beautiful. And not that the outfit is, like, really giving all this, like. Like, fantasy. She. Sometimes when you're, like, really skinny and really pretty, it's really easy to make stuff look good. That's why I say if you're a skinny, pretty girl and you look bad, I don't know what the. You did.

[Monet X Change]

I feel like this, like, look is very, like, second number on a Wednesday night.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. Really? Y'?

[Kim Chi]

All?

[Monet X Change]

I. I mean, I like it, you know, but I like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I thought the hair was cool. The makeup looked cool. I thought it was cool. The hair reminds me of that. Remember?

[Ad Voice]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know that. That neon hair that Naomi did.

[Ad Voice 2]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, the puffs, the palms, which it might be for something else, too. I just know it from Naomi.

[Kim Chi]

Let's go on to what I think will be the golden boot of the season. This entry, this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The fact that she got the email with the prompts for the runways she saw quilted, and she thought about this as her look to bring to Drag Race is insane. Insane to me. And why she is one of the most iconic queens, I think, that has ever been on RuPaul's Drag Race.

[Kim Chi]

I think she literally just went and bought a quilt. Like, she literally just bought an actual quilt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is crazy.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, it's clearly sewn, and then, like, there's, like, structures in it to, like, keep this up. So obviously, someone actually spent time on this. But Also, like, the RuPaul, like, face on it is just a little too, like, kiss ass for me, you know? Like. Like, Drag Race is your time. So, like, why are you making your look about RuPaul and not you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And why is Rue cockeyed? Why is Rue looking at the camera like this?

[Kim Chi]

I'm screaming. I forget that you can make your eyes cockeyed. That's such a talent that I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can't do that.

[Kim Chi]

No, I'll go all the time. My eyes look in the same direction. I think they can go in, but you can make one go in, which is insane.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I'll say this, though, because Drag Race and how popular it's gotten, it is hard to get things made, like, from designers nowadays, because all the designers are pretty limited who can do it in a limited time. And then they all know what day you're leaving, and they know they can ask for whatever price, and you're gonna pay it because you wanna go on Drag Race. Mm.

[Kim Chi]

So, you know, as we say, to quote Alyssa Edwards, mama, this is garbage. And I think it would've been better if her face was poking out of

[Bob the Drag Queen]

the quilt instead of Rob, I saved this look.

[Kim Chi]

Well, let me finish. If her face is poking out, like, the quilt is like. Like, think Lady Gaga when she did art pop and her head was on that big blank thing. Instead of your face being behind it, your face is, like, in it. Right. And then if the quilt was, like, some. If it was wrapped around her body but not like a big quilt, but instead of being, like, a blank, like, a big rectangle, if it was somehow wrapped around her body in some Sort of a form fitting way, because she does. She does pad pretty well when she wears titties. So this look was. This look was just insane. Insane.

[Monet X Change]

I think this look could have been something. Had she, like, ripped a quilt up on stage and there was, like another look underneath it, I think that would have been cunt. You know, but to have justice look.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I thought a reveal was coming. Like, I thought there was. Oh, I was like, there's for sure reveal is coming. And then there was a reveal.

[Kim Chi]

The reveals. RuPaul girl. When. When this walked down the Runway and y' all thought it was real, y' all literally said, I pray for something. Cunt. We did the. The prayer of Lana Jarret. I pray for something. But we did not get. We got. This is actually cut in its own way, but in the most uniconic, in the most ironic way ever.

[Monet X Change]

It's taking nerve to wear this.

[Kim Chi]

You know, it's iconic, ironic. Let's move on to Arrieti and

[Bob the Drag Queen]

she's. I think this is a very fine, thin quilting fabric, but it doesn't give quilting. I think. I think Bianca has a video of her stitching something like this, and someone showed it on Twitter.

[Kim Chi]

And I think Bianca made her fat. Her dress.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, no. Bianca, like, used the same fabric.

[Kim Chi]

Bianca made her dress. It's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bianca used the same fabric in something a few years ago, and this is a very, like, the thinnest. I mean, like, quilting, like a sheet of paper, it's not what you think of quilting. Like, a little heavier and thicker. So I think technically it is quilted, but it doesn't look it. I think it's a cool outfit. I like is the cats under it with this thing and the glass and, you know, I think it's like a nice outfit, but it just doesn't give. Quilted.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I think she looks extremely high fashion and she looks really good. But I don't know if it's like a look to where I'm going to be, like, inspired by or like, remember.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. Sometimes when you go too out of the box, you end up missing the mark and you end up with something that's just. You try. It's just too out of the box. Let's move on to Jules Sparkles. This look is fine. I don't hate it. It looks perfectly fine to me.

[Monet X Change]

It's kind of like, like 2012, like, pop diva, like, music video look kind of.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, a little bit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Yeah, I can see. I can see Gaga wearing this in something a while. Ago.

[Monet X Change]

I feel like she's gonna perform like get this party started, you know?

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, very that. Let's move on to Harmona Lisa, who who is doing a nod that Monet has done on RuPaul's Drag Race before I did Monet. Did you watch the fucking. Yeah. This is her. She said this is her. Inspired by code of many colors.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I didn't even hear her say that. I like. I think this is good. I think. I think what would have been really cool is if the thing under it wasn't a leotard. If it was a catsuit, maybe like a fully full foot. Like it would be very like Richard Quinn vibes, you know what I mean? And feel like super one thing and it'd be more high fashion. But it just being a leotard underneath I think made this, this, the thing look cheap. Although it was quilted. Her mom quilted it for her. The coat, I love the coat. I just hate it. Reveals are just leotard.

[Monet X Change]

I would say like she looks good in this one, but to me, this is clothes, not necessarily fashion. But she does look good.

[Kim Chi]

I don't like this hair on her though. This. This was not the hair.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Agree.

[Kim Chi]

The hair looks like she looks like the victory Worldwide. She's like a Hedwig in the Angry Inch or something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I feel like with the styling this could have easily been some sort of like a concept, you know, like a country music star or something. But it's kind of like I'm just this outfit and quilt.

[Kim Chi]

Let's go on to Crystal envy everything. Wow.

[Monet X Change]

She looks just like Scarlet Envy here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. No relation though ate this up. Her body looks incredible. The coat was dope. And then revealing it as cats so that it has cool to going up the sides of it. The hair was really cool. This was such a great fucking look. My only if I had to nitpick about something so tiny so minute will be as if her is if her whopper those whopper poppers. The snaps were the same colors of fabric because you know, to make them in almost every color that would have been nice. But other than that girl, everything. Yes.

[Monet X Change]

Sickening. Stunning.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. I think this is the best look of the season so far.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I think about that. Oh, I think so.

[Kim Chi]

I mean I don't. I'm recalling everything but this. That look was really good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I don't remember what the last episode.

[Kim Chi]

I can't.

[Monet X Change]

That's a very like deep compliment. I'm not going to say that yet, but I think she looks Amazing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

Let's go on to Susie Toot. And I do love. Okay. I don't know why Susie Toot doesn't. I'm no shade to your signature thing. I do not know why susie2 doesn't do her makeup like this all the time. Th. I did not know susie2 knew how to do makeup. That was not bad, for lack of a better word.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, she looks beautiful. It's also not everyone. I don't know if it's like the Runway, but, like, the outfit just kind of, like, forgettable to me, mostly because it just blends into the background.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. You can't. You're not wrong, girl. With this new Runway, I'm telling you, dark colors. I. They. They had to revisit it the upcoming season. Dark colors just disappear. You can't see dimensional because it's so reflective in the colors. Like you. It's really hard to see. And also, they read the other girl for quilted. What the fuck was quilting on her outfit? It.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

Well, no, I mean, we're. We're going to read it. I'm g. I wrote it down, actually, because. Because. Because obviously, as you know, Carson Crley is like a fashion bible, and he knows every reference to everything ever. I mean, it's in my other notes. I'll get to in a second. Carson Kley said that it was a. Hold on, hold on. He said it was a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Why do you do that? I'm gonna say, I think that Tramp art quilt. What does that mean? Tramp art quilt.

[Kim Chi]

It's a quilt. It's a specific kind of quilt from the 1930s called tramp art quilt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She got her fabric from the 30s, too. Jesus Christ.

[Kim Chi]

But I'm just saying. I want to go back and say, like, her makeup looks great. Like, the reason my makeup was bad on season eight, because I didn't know how to do better makeup. She knows how to do better makeup, and she's choosing not to do it. That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And what is your excuse now?

[Kim Chi]

That wasn't even a good one. Anyway, should we move on?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was gonna say, I think that I was more so, like, I was, like, mesmerized by how pretty she looked. I think her makeup and, like, how beautiful she was able to make paint herself. I was, like, mesmerized by that. That I didn't even pay attention to the fact that her outfit, I mean, I can't, apparently, was some 1920s boop boop quilt that I've never fucking heard of. But I think her makeup Was so pretty. But I hate also that she still did that small lip. I'm like, bitch, give me a big. Give me a big mouth mouth.

[Kim Chi]

Did she do small loop?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

I guess not all of us are naturally blessed like Monet, you know, that's why I draw.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can literally make it up. You can make these lips as big as you want.

[Kim Chi]

Should we go on to Sam Star? I love this. This. I feel like this. This is kind of like a concept that we've. That we've seen a few times.

[Monet X Change]

Victor and Ralph, like, inspired,

[Kim Chi]

but I feel like I haven't seen one where the hair goes into the pillow like this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jada did it on her season for the finale or something.

[Kim Chi]

She did the hair into the pillow as well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, she had a black wig, and it, like, went into the pillow.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, work then. We have seen it. I mean, but I mean, just because it's been done doesn't mean you can't do it again. She did it well. She honestly, legit looks great.

[Monet X Change]

She looks amazing. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think she was really cool. I think it's a cool take on a sleeping bag. It was cool.

[Kim Chi]

Let's go on to Acacia Forgot. Acacia forgot has her grandmother's doily and her mother's quilt. Like, she actually has family heirlooms in this garment. And honestly, she looks pretty good.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, she looks good. I like it.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like the hair. I think this outfit is cool. I don't like the sleeves of this dress, but I do love the structure of this dress. I think it's very flattering to the body.

[Monet X Change]

Love.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She has this, like, old. Like, 19, I guess. I'm gonna guess it's from the 80s. Although I think a box like that is more from just more than, like, a 50s thing. And I love that she put the do in the hair. I think her hair and the dress are good. I hate the sleeves.

[Monet X Change]

Only thing I wish, like, that was done different was maybe she was wearing, like, a lace tights or something instead of just, like, bare leg with this look.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That could be cool.

[Kim Chi]

She's not wearing fishnets.

[Monet X Change]

Fishnets. But, you know, I mean, instead of just, like, legs, I feel like she should have been, like, covered up.

[Kim Chi]

I had a pair of fishnets that. That, like, one pair. I don't think computers anymore. I haven't found them. That has a seam going down the back of the leg. I love those.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They still make those black fishnets with the seam in the back.

[Kim Chi]

I need to give more. I fucking love.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're very sexy. They're very Sexy. Those. Those kind of fishnets. Let's go on to miss on ya nerve. I thought on your November looked beautiful. The only thing I was did not like was that you have this diagonal motif of the quilt going to the top and the bottom, and then at the bottom, you shrink yourself by having just it going horizontal. I think it was such an interesting choice not to not like, why shouldn't you keep that motif?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

And I think she should have adorned herself in more jewelry. Big bangles, big wooden jewelry. Yeah, like the. The bare arm. It needs some big, chunky wooden jewelry. Even in bright colors. Painted in bright colors on her arm, I think would look really nice with this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I agree.

[Monet X Change]

And her makeup looks really cool.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, yeah. She is still doing that, like 2016 hard cheek, though. You remember that? 2016.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All three of us used to do that cheek week.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I still do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you?

[Monet X Change]

Sometimes, yeah, sometimes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I mean, I used to. Girl, I. Y', all, when I used to paint, I used. I literally used to get a pair of old tights. The box or the. The paper in the box. I would cut it from my cheek

[Monet X Change]

and I would go, like, I know I miss it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And have that, like, hard cheek. Like, Bob and I used to do that together.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I did on Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

Can we go on to. Lexi love, I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You will start this podcast with the computer unplugged. The last thing.

[Kim Chi]

Well, it was. It was doing well, but you drain it. Like when I'm by myself, it's you. When you get on my computer, it's. It's drained of power. It's. It. I under. I sympathize with this computer. I love this look. I love this look. This look is so cool to me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I thought it was cool, too. I love. You know. You know Utica made this.

[Monet X Change]

Oh.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, I see that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I think she looks really cool. I thought. I think. I think Lexi also often also like these, like, skinny girls girl one day, like, they can just like, wear anything. And I'm always like, over, like, oh, my God, that looks really fierce. I think it looks really beautiful. I think she wasted the black stones on that thing. Let me tell you something. Blackstones are such a waste. When you like stone things of Blackstone, it is just. You're wasting your money and you're wasting time.

[Monet X Change]

I agree. It never shows up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Never.

[Monet X Change]

Also like rhinestone in general for television, unless it's encrusted, don't even bother because it does not show up on camera.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It doesn't show up Here's a, here's

[Kim Chi]

the debate me and money used to have. Kim, what do you think? I think putting stones on top of sequins does not, does not make it pop more.

[Monet X Change]

No, absolutely not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For a stage. For a stage. If you put, if you like, if you put stones on a sequin, like, I wouldn't do it anymore, but I would love the little accent things. I would wear this because on stage, cuz sequins sparkles a little different on stage with stage lights. So that's why I would do it.

[Kim Chi]

I don't think it does that much, like, unless it's like the mesh cutouts in it and you stone on the mesh. But if you're just putting stones on top of sequins. I used to be like, what are you doing? When it was like, it's. I mean, she doesn't do anymore mo. Like, this is the only thing, honey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, honestly, you're the only one doing it.

[Monet X Change]

When you're stoning a garment, mostly you're not necessarily stoning it for stage. You're stoning for the queen's backstage. It's like, oh, like all of this is stone. You know, like, but most audience, I don't even like know unless violence attack

[Kim Chi]

on pre sequined fabric.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, she was like, she was like, I only do like custom sequin. And I'm like, yeah, well, so not everybody wants to spend like $10,000 on like one outfit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, my girl, she is. That girl is so crazy.

[Kim Chi]

But also all she does is trap herself. Now she can never again be seen in a pre sequined fabric. All she's done is ruin the herself because now she can never again wear a pre sequin fabric. And who, what designer? How much has she limited the designers that she could work with because they refused. They're like, I'm not, I'm not about to fucking do no fucking sequins on fabric.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go on to Ms. Corey King wearing this look. The hair needs to be bigger, the hand needs to be way bigger. Also, I love her in this color hair. Cory King has a. She's been wearing a lot in this season. Like that's like that like brassy blonde color. That's like a little hard. And I don't think it works nicely with her skin tone. But when she wears tones like this, with this dark color, she's done it a few times. It looks so beautiful on her. It softens her a bit more, you know, I don't love this outfit. I think the hair could have Been way bigger. It could have been like some on your nerves kind of hair. Like a frozen or, I don't know, not a throw. But it could have just bigger. I needed bigger. Big girl. I needed, like, some texture and just bigger. It was just looked like this. She had, like, a small, little thimble koofy on her head.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. This outfit did not do her any favors. It is very poorly made. It is not great. This is not one of my favorite Corey King moments. And now think about it. I feel like Corey King hasn't had a lot of great Runway moments on the season. I'm thinking hard about this. Out of the four.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. The tiny little thing on her head looks a little silly. Proportion. It looks a little off. I wish, like, the gloves were, like, even more, like, upper length.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, girl. Let me say something. That this type of glove needs to be abolished from every drag queen's wardrobe. Your gloves should never be this glow, girl. Always go full opera.

[Kim Chi]

King is big.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That. That is not opera. Limp glove. I know exactly what size glove that is. The one that every girl goes at her man. Drag queen should never wear that glove. It should always be opera. Or if you're doing, like, a little Southern charm little look. Maybe the wrist.

[Kim Chi]

For a long time, I did not know thigh high boots were actually supposed to go to your thigh.

[Monet X Change]

We know.

[Kim Chi]

I had no clue, you know, because I've never.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've.

[Kim Chi]

I've only seen one or I've had. The only boots I have to go to my thigh are custom made bo boots. Boots. They just don't make it to my thigh. They just don't make it up there. You know, whenever girls with their boots go up to their, like, mid thigh, I'm like, oh, my God, that looks so good, Bob. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You and I are the same size. I definitely. Please just make those thigh high boots.

[Kim Chi]

I'm four inches taller than you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But in your size, our legs are the same length. You have longer. You have a longer torso than me.

[Kim Chi]

You just made that up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You just.

[Kim Chi]

You're just making up proportions. Let's. So let's go on to the judges. So at this point, we realized that. So Lydia, Sam, Star, Lexi, Lana, Jules, Harmona, and Acacia are all safe. They're all safe. And if this won the competition, girl, you should be lucky. You're safe. Like, you want to at least make it a Snatch Game, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I agree. I think. And I think I had a good little idiom. A little phrase I said earlier about being safe, and I forgot. Oh, fortune Favors the same. Because you get to live and you get to fight another day for another thing, and that's good. I was never. I've never been the girl who was upset. I was safe. I'm happy. I'm. Except for All Stars 7, actually, I was a little annoyed. I was safe a lot.

[Kim Chi]

That's the same. People just kind of flip around. Because isn't saying supposed to be like, fortune favors the brave?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I'm saying, fortune favors are safe.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. Fortune favors the young. To be honest, fortunate favors the rich. That's what really goes on. Okay, so Michelle says, explain the white nose to me.

[Ad Voice]

Me.

[Kim Chi]

And then she goes, I would never try to change you, which we know is not true, Michelle. If there's one thing Michelle will do, it will be to tell you to change the thing you're doing in drag. Like, we. We all know this for a fact, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Although Don tweeted, which we may talk about when we talk about later. Dawn. Don tweeted about this, and I was like, oh, actually, that's really a different perspective. No one has offered it yet.

[Kim Chi]

Well, I guess we'll talk about it in. In the Untucked exclusive.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

How do y' all feel about the white nose? I think sometimes it doesn't work. Like, in her promo look, it looks so good. There are times where I'm like. Like a few episodes ago, I really is just taking me out of the. And I think what it is, because the rest of her makeup, that episode was such a just standard beauty, and the nose was such a specific thing. It just. It took me out of the moment for some reason.

[Monet X Change]

I don't mind her signature because I think it's done well. I don't care whatever you do as long as, like, you do it well. And I think she does it well, and if she likes it, that's cool. Only thing I, like, feel bad for her is because now Michelle set this on tv and these, like, fans who basically, their opinion is like, whatever the judges say. So whenever Arietta posts any picture or they see, like, any, like, post over on social media, they're gonna be like, oh, she's doing that nose again. And this is probably going to hunt her for the rest of her drag career. And I hope she continues to the nose, because, you know, I think it's cool, and if she likes it, that's cool. But she's gonna have to deal with that because it became a thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now, I don't mind the white nose. I just don't like the white. When it goes like that crazy V. Sometimes I think it works. But in the design challenge last week, when she did it like, it was narrower, it was still white and like, you know, clown white. But I don't always love the V thing. But, you know, it's her thing. And she probably don't like what I do with my makeup either.

[Monet X Change]

So I wasn't.

[Kim Chi]

I think all four of us have been the victim of something being said about the way we do drag on tv. And it does not matter how much you improve. It does not matter. I will always be ratchet it. Kim Chi will never know how to walk in heels. And Monet will always wear kitty cat wigs. It doesn't matter if. If Kim is Naomi Campbell's level walking, if Monet wears a wig bigger than Lady Bunny, and if I am the most opulent high end thing, once it's on, once it is said on tv. That is just who you are now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

You know, I so Carson grossly said this a tramp art quilt and that it just feels like such a specific. He really. He really knows a lot. Like, I'm always. I am constantly impressed by his ability to pull things out of his bag of knowledge.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But Bob, I'll do some research.

[Monet X Change]

That's a common knowledge. Like, we all knew what trim quilt is. It's like when you take like pieces from like an old clothing and then repurpose it. Like, Monet knew about it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't know about it.

[Kim Chi]

Everyone knew. So they were living for on your nerve. On your nerve was like they were like obsessed with on your nerves moment. And the reason why they're laughing because we. We already recorded this and they found out on the air and now they're acting like they knew, but the recording got lost and nobody act like they knew what tramp cart was.

[Monet X Change]

Well, Bob seems like making up facts now. That's crazy, right, Monae?

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, Bob. Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Alternative facts. You're really leaning into the Trump era. I'll let you all at home judge

[Kim Chi]

what you think is real.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think Anya nerve killed it. I thought this was so well done. I was.

[Kim Chi]

I'm sorry. Sorry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I thought that like watching the tv, I was like. I was literally smiling watching her performing. Cause just.

[Monet X Change]

She just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was just so exuberant and Horatia and her voice was so good, which she did not brand herself as a musician coming into this and her meet the queens or anything. So it's kind of like a reality,

[Kim Chi]

you know who the real musician is?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Acacia forgot.

[Kim Chi]

And a real musician, according to Acacia Forgot has never won RuPaul's Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And in case you forgot, I forgot that she's a singer. I think it's a nice little welcome surprise we're getting from Anya. And I'm obsessed with her. Her talent as a singer. She said she's great.

[Kim Chi]

I mean, I. I think. Okay. I think the Onioner was the best by a mile. Like, it wasn't even close. This performance was so good. It was. It was amazing. What'd you think, Cam?

[Monet X Change]

It was really great. Yeah. With that being said, I gotta pay respect to our musician winners like Jinx Monsoon, Violet Chachki.

[Kim Chi]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mistress Violet. Yes.

[Kim Chi]

Betty Mishra's Violence that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait. Miss Fame sings.

[Kim Chi]

Miss Fame had a whole album.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Miss Fame. The fast you don't know about song.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

Untouchable. Shout out, Shout out, Shout out. Honey. So I feel so bad because Corey looks so defeated during her judging. She looks like she's having a bad day. And the thing is, when you are looking bad and you're feeling bad, and they're saying bad things about you, and the camera just keeps cutting back to

[Bob the Drag Queen]

you, and you're just like, girl, I have. I have two of those in Drag Race. I hate it, I hate it, I hate it. But nothing's worse than being at the bottom twice in a row. I was at the bottom twice in a row. And that. And when I tell you that is the lowest I felt, and I've been called a fe. Jamaican bitch when I was in fourth grade on the playground, that being in the bottom twice in a row felt lower than that to me.

[Kim Chi]

Wait, was it twice in a row? Like, was it the second one when you went home, or was it back to back?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You won back to back. I won. But that must have felt nice. Yeah. But before I was like, oh, I'm going home. Like, this was Pound the alarm then, man. I feel like I went with Mayhem Miller. And before I did a listen with Mayhem in Untucked, I looked the saddest. I think I would have listened.

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy. I don't know. You do it, girl. No.

[Kim Chi]

Being in the bottom on Drag Race, y', all, it stinks. It really. It's. It's genuinely not fun. Even if you're not lip syncing, just being, like, told that you're not. That if you're in the. If you're not in the same group and you're clearly not in the top, you are, like, sweating this. Someone said, and it's true. When RuPaul says lip sync for your life, it feels like life and death there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It really does.

[Kim Chi]

It must feel different. Go back to All Stars, though, right? It must feel lighter and easier. Right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, especially when no one went home. All Stars 7. I was like, oh, whatever. We can do bad. Who cares?

[Kim Chi]

But I mean, the week. But before that, the second time, it must have felt a little. Not as bad.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It felt not as bad. I don't remember. I was only in the bottom once in All Stars 4. And I don't remember, to be honest,

[Kim Chi]

because, like, when you're on All Stars, everyone's biggest fear has already come true. Well, not everyone, but most people there have already gone home, did the whole goodbyes and everything. A lot of people make it to the top, but don't get sent home, per se. But a lot of people are like, well, my biggest fear has already come true, so once you live through it, it can't be that bad, actually. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe. But it seems. People seem to take it, take it easier on all sorts. Except for what's her name? But she had never gone home before.

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Who?

[Kim Chi]

Pangina. But she had never gone home before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She went from being a host to just being a contestant on the show.

[Kim Chi]

I mean, she's one of the only. That's not true. I was about to make up a. I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She want only host one.

[Kim Chi]

I was like, she's the only host who was never a competitor on Drag Race. But there are some people who do it. But they. But they are. But she is a drag queen. And the other ones are like, people who get put in drag to host the show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, the bitch from Italy.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. Meanwhile, did I ever tell you I got asked, I got an email from, like, Korea's Drag Race. And so, you know, I'm like, oh, my God, am I about to be, like, the RuPaul of Korea? And I'm like, like, shaking, shivering. Open up the email and then it says, we'd like you to come compete on Korea's Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

And then they also, like, sent, like, list of, like, judges they had lined up. And these are, like, actresses that are like. Has been. That are like, is it Drag Race

[Kim Chi]

Korea or a different. Different company?

[Monet X Change]

It was like, a company that was, like, producing or trying to produce, like, Korea's Drag Race.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, but it wasn't like, Drag Race Korea.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah. So then it was just, like, just, like, washed up, like, actresses that are. Aren't even, like, queer or, like, in the LGBTQIA community. So I'm like, I'm not about to go on the show and then, like. Yeah. And be judged by, like, bunch of, like, people that don't even know drag, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Hell no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That sounds horrible.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, we've already done that once. We've already gone through that once. So RuPaul wastes no time telling Joella she's in the bottom off the bat. Joella, sorry, made you in the bottom. Then she turns regular Anya. She goes, and you win. And now she makes the other girl sweat. Right? So she's making Arrietty and not Plane Jane Corey King sweat. And we find out that it is indeed Cory King in the bottom. And I think this bottom two is correct. What do y' all think?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it's. There's. I couldn't see anyone else being in there. Corey King and Joella. This is. Honestly, this is the most accurate judging we've seen on Drag Grace in a long time. Like, I agree with everything RuPaul done had been done said this episode.

[Kim Chi]

I agree. And to no one's surprise, Corey King. First of all, every time the camera cuts back over to Joella, this, The fucking mattress is like, getting floppier. And it's sending me. Because she just keeps getting sadder and sadder. And it starts up here, but then by the time it's done, like, half her face, you can just see her nose. She looks. Looks like she's having the worst day ever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because what I had heard is that, you know, she doesn't revealing this. So apparently she was up there holding it with her hands up the whole time. That's why she was holding it up.

[Kim Chi]

Criminal. I would have grabbed two sticks or something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, boss, you're gonna find two sticks.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, brooms. Every broom has a stick attached to it. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't. It's not the. It's holding something like this, for.

[Kim Chi]

I would have held the sticks like this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This.

[Kim Chi]

Put him in the corners and then

[Bob the Drag Queen]

you reveal then what on stage.

[Kim Chi]

Then I. I start taking the broomsticks. I hit him with a

[Monet X Change]

just like heart, like. Exactly.

[Kim Chi]

So to no one's shock or. Or surprise or awe, I keep going to call her Plain Jane. Corey King sends Joella home. Um, and I want to say too, I. I think that the. The chocolate and the levers just let the girls go home. Just let them go home. And if someone's gonna stay behind, give them that fucking. That what's her name, that fucking candy Muse. You get to stay, give them that. That Alyssa Edwards versus Tatiana. You get to Stay. Give them that. Roxxxy Andrews versus Edwards. You get to stay. Like, just. Just make it, like, fun. Like, I've just decided, but, like, let these girls leave.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's easy for you to say, Bob. The knowing that you have a moment to say. I think I would hold onto that. Like, that I would have liked the opportunity to know that maybe I could have done a last ditch thing for me to say.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so this is, like, my thought when I was, like, watching this. After the girls get eliminated, how long do they wait for Michelle to go change into the bathing suit and go up there?

[Kim Chi]

I was thinking about that too, because her hair is different. They have to put those levers on the stage.

[Monet X Change]

And Michelle's not someone that can just, like, all right, guys, I'm ready to go. You know, like, she's. She's gonna make sure she looks right. You know, before.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, like, I was. I was thinking about it too. What is the. What. How long does it take to reset?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, doesn't it happen when they go to untucked? I think it happens when they go to untucked, but then there.

[Monet X Change]

But isn't Michelle, like, watching the lip sync, though, like, in a different outfit?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

So then after the lip sync, then she's, like, changed and then up on that little.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.

[Kim Chi]

It's kind of gaggy. But on her way out the door, she says, at least I didn't. At least I didn't die a local girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And the local girls did not like that girl. Twitter was ablaze this week. Joella had to issue an apology.

[Monet X Change]

I can't believe you still use Twitter. That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know. I don't use Twitter.

[Kim Chi]

I feel like when I. Well, that's not true. We can show the receipts. I feel like, like, Monique, your tweets are literally there. People can go look right now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where. No, they're not, because they're gone.

[Kim Chi]

Okay, sure. I'll be reposting them before you delete your account tonight. So people. So people can't see you post dated this. Look at what they grabbing her phone. When I. When I was a local girl, I don't remember being that hurt by this.

[Monet X Change]

I. I was not. But also, like, I've been doing drag for so little. But also there are, like, queens that's been doing drag for, like, 20 years that's been, like, holding up their, like, local scene. Like, usually gets, like, really offended by it. Have you ever done a gig where you, like, go to a show, and this queen has been, like, a showrunner there for, like, 30 years, and then she acts like she doesn't know who you are, and, like, what was your name? What season were you on?

[Kim Chi]

Okay. I would say there was a queen who's working at Bebop who'd be like, I never watched the show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know who you are.

[Monet X Change]

And then she's like, give it up for, like, the. The funniest comedian of season eight. Give it up for Bob the Drag Queen. It's like, oh, so you know who we are, Literally.

[Kim Chi]

And then. And then on the way out the door, like, she's like, I love. I love when you yelled at Derrick Barry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, she's crazy.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who do you think? Who do you think is winning season 17? Give.

[Monet X Change]

It's really too soon to tell for me, but I really like Arietti. You know, I know. I don't know if that's, like, a grave yet controversial opinion, but I think. I think. I think she's cool. I like. I like Lexi Love.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I. Lexi Love, too. I like her vibe. I. I would say between Lexi and

[Kim Chi]

Susie, for me, pick one. Who's winning?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Winning. I'm gonna say Lexi Love.

[Kim Chi]

I'm gonna say Susie. Toot for the win. Work Suzanne Toot. All right, y', all, thank you so much for joining us. Kimchi, where can they find you? How can we find out what's the latest thing with kimchi chic beauty?

[Monet X Change]

All right, so we always had some fun, crazy sale going on, so. And a lot of our products do sell out, so get it while you [e-mail] I also just launched THC Mochi Gummy through Sunday flowers, which is like these, like, delicious edible gummies that are yuzu kimchi flavored. So get on it. They always sell out.

[Kim Chi]

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[Monet X Change]

Yeah, please buy FOMO Beauty. Beauty.

[Kim Chi]

I mean, at this point.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you, Kim. We love you. Thank you for coming into the show.

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