Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race S17 E4 "B.tch, I'm a Drag Queen!"

Summary

Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race Season 17, Episode 4 – "B.tch, I'm a Drag Queen!"

In this episode of Sibling Rivalry, hosts Bob the Drag Queen, Monét X Change, and Kim Chi dive deep into the fourth episode of RuPaul's Drag Race Season 17, titled "B.tch, I'm a Drag Queen!" Released on January 29, 2025, this episode unpacks the pivotal moments, standout performances, and drama that unfolded in the latest installment of the beloved drag competition series.

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1. Episode Overview

The hosts kick off their discussion by setting the stage for Episode 4, which centers around an acting challenge. The queens were tasked with creating commercials for “I'm a Dreaming Volume One and Two,” blending their acting skills with their unique drag personas.

Monét X Change reflects on the emotional weight of watching the season, sharing how she and Bob caught up by binge-watching episodes on the treadmill:

“I think you're on mute Workday starting to sound the same.” ([00:23])

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2. The "B.tch, I'm a Drag Queen!" Challenge

The central challenge required the queens to produce captivating commercials, showcasing both their creativity and performance abilities. The hosts dissected each queen's approach, highlighting successes and missteps.

Susie Toot impressed with her seasoned performance, portraying Valentina with grace and clarity:

“Susie seems to be a really seasoned performer who knows how to get her message across very easily.” ([26:48])

Conversely, Corey King faced criticism for her execution, with Bob questioning the effectiveness of her physical comedy:

“She was so excited to go grab that fucking dress. But I was like, girl, that is a sequin dress.” ([31:35])

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3. Standout Performances and Looks

The discussion delved into specific queens and their runway looks, analyzing the creativity and execution behind each outfit.

• Lydia Butthole Collins brought a conceptual flair with her "Cat Lady" ensemble, though Monet had mixed feelings about the proportions:

  “I can't tell. I don't like the proportions of what she made.” ([46:09])

• Joella emerged as a fan favorite, with her traditional Chinese-inspired drag receiving high praise for its cultural representation and fierceness:

  “She just was so exuberant. And her voice was so good.” ([71:17])

• Crystal Envy stole the show with her stunning ensemble, combining a structured coat with sleek styling:

  “This look was just insane. Insane.” ([56:16])

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4. Hosts' Insights and Opinions

Throughout the episode, the hosts offered candid opinions, balancing critique with admiration. They highlighted the importance of authenticity and cultural representation in drag, applauding queens who showcased their heritage with respect and creativity.

Kim Chi emphasized the significance of cultural looks:

“I love seeing cultural looks on Drag Race because culture is not a costume.” ([40:34])

Bob the Drag Queen shared personal anecdotes from her Drag Race experience, relating to the emotional challenges queens face in the competition:

“Being in the bottom one Drag Race, y'all, it stinks. It really, it's genuinely not fun.” ([73:12])

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5. Memorable Moments and Drama

The episode didn’t shy away from the drama that often accompanies competitive reality TV. The elimination of Lucky Star sparked discussions about showmances and the emotional toll of being sent home.

Monét X Change recounted:

“Lucky Star's going home must have felt traumatic.” ([05:19])

Additionally, the hosts touched on the infamous "white nose" controversy surrounding Michelle, debating its impact on her drag persona and audience perception:

“Whenever anyone says something about the way we do drag on TV, it becomes our identity.” ([68:14])

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6. Predictions and Conclusion

As the episode wrapped up, the hosts speculated on the season's trajectory, offering their predictions on potential winners. Lexi Love and Susie Toot emerged as frontrunners in their eyes, each bringing unique strengths to the competition.

Bob the Drag Queen confidently backed Susie:

“I'm gonna say Susie Toot for the win. Work Suzanne Toot.” ([81:54])

Monét X Change had her sights set on Lexi Love:

“I like Lexi Love, too. I like her vibe.” ([81:45])

Kim Chi expressed admiration for Arietti, praising her performances and potential:

“I really like Arietti. I think she's cool.” ([81:31])

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Notable Quotes

• Bob the Drag Queen on the difficulty of being in the bottom:

  “When you are in the bottom one Drag Race, it stinks. It really, it's genuinely not fun.” ([73:12])

• Monét X Change on cultural representation:

  “I love seeing cultural looks on Drag Race because culture is not a costume.” ([40:34])

• Kim Chi on group dynamics:

  “Rehearsal is always a nightmare because there's always that one queen who plays hard to get.” ([28:08])

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Final Thoughts

Episode 4 of RuPaul's Drag Race Season 17 proved to be a pivotal moment in the competition, showcasing a blend of outstanding performances, creative challenges, and intense emotional moments. Sibling Rivalry offered an engaging and insightful breakdown, providing listeners with a comprehensive understanding of the episode's highlights and the queens' journeys. As the season progresses, fans can look forward to more electrifying performances and dramatic eliminations, with Lexi Love, Susie Toot, and Arietti leading the charge towards the crown.

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For those who missed the episode or want to relive the highlights, Sibling Rivalry ensures you're always in the loop with thorough recaps and vibrant discussions. Stay tuned for more episodes as the competition heats up!

Transcript

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[Kim Chi]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

We are back for Sibling Watchery. We are reviewing episode four drag queen season 17. And we have Chicago drag legend, makeup mogul. I know makeup beauty, fashion icon Kimchi on the pod today.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, some would even say the desion of la.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, well. And I know one girl who wouldn't say it. I know one girl who wouldn't. Honey, you're not the. You, you are a sl, but not the premier.

[Kim Chi]

My God. Just to be clear, I've never claimed that title. Naomi said it on Pissed up and Monet. And then next thing you know my DM was like filled up with people like, yeah, SL Diva of la. And I'm like, what are these people talking about? Because I haven't seen the show at.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That time, the premiere. Also not Manila, Luzon, who's lived in forever and ever found dead Manila. Angina found dead. Also Raja found Raja found dead, but also Manila.

[Monet X Change]

Actually, Manila was a New York queen when she did drag race. No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, when she did drag race. But. But I mean, she was there longer than Kim and Raj's been there since I think the Tar Pits were Just.

[Monet X Change]

Getting started boiling dinosaurs from.

[Kim Chi]

But you know what? It's not just like one Asian queen. Takes rules all. You know, there can be many of us representing different aspects of drag.

[Monet X Change]

Give us pageant era. I can't.

[Kim Chi]

Representation matters.

[Monet X Change]

Can we get Shade. Shade Chi back? That's what. That's the Kim I need. Shade Chi.

[Kim Chi]

No, Shade Chi's been here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's shady when she needs to be. Not shady just for the purpose of being shady. Kim understands the art of shade. It's not just shade.

[Kim Chi]

Shady with purpose, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Exactly.

[Monet X Change]

Shady with a purpose, Kim. Okay, so you have been watching this season. Do you love? Do you hate?

[Kim Chi]

Okay, so I'm not gonna lie when Jacob texted me this morning about doing this, and I'm like, oh, my God, I haven't seen the season. So then I went to the gym and I walked in the treadmill, and then I, like, watched all the episodes it took, and I finally.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it's four hours.

[Monet X Change]

Four hours.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. But, you know, there's. There's a lot to do at the gym.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe Kim was on that treadmill. Honey, Kim said, I live here now.

[Monet X Change]

Can I tell you that? Like. So I have recently gotten into watching a program on while doing cardio. How the time will fly.

[Kim Chi]

It goes so fast. When you see the music, especially when you know the music. Time goes by so slow.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, yes. The music makes it talk about. So. But a show done.

[Kim Chi]

Especially if it's a show that you haven't seen before. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, no, you're fine. I'm saying, I just. I feel. It depends on what you're watching though, right? I. What I have found works for me is either watching, like, Tony Award performances. Baby, I. I'll do maybe four or five. I'm like, oh, my God, 30 minutes have already passed. Once I. Once I'm. I'm on the. On the treadmill doing anything goes with Sutton Foster. I'm like, girl, I can do a couple more. I can do a couple more rounds.

[Kim Chi]

And also downside to watching this is, like, I watch a lot of Korean dramas too, and sometimes they get really sad and sappy. So I'm on the treadmill, crying as I'm watching this, screaming, looking like a crazy person, like, crying on the treadmill.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

These people just going through their dramas, families dying, and you're like, wow, this guy really loves working out.

[Kim Chi]

I'm like, who's that fat bitch in the treadmill? Just, like, crying because she doesn't want to be there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

With that in mind. We should go ahead and hop into this episode. Here we have an episode called Bitch, I'm a Drag Queen. And Lucky Starz has just gone to the house.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They sent the girl home.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. And, you know, I. I didn't see Lucky Stars. I did not see Lucky Stars going home so soon, but she did. And I think now because. What? Cause, Kim, I don't know how much. Yes, you caught up. But Lucky and Arrietty have this, like, showmance, and in untucked, Lucky was being very cold. Like, yeah, that sucks. But now she's, like, getting very emotional, and I love to see the love that. That these two have for each other.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think she was cold. I think she was just, like, uncomfortable. But she. Arrietty has been the driving force behind the showmance. And Lucky Star's kind of, like, cool sis. And Arietti's like, give me that jingling. Give me that paper mache dingling, honey.

[Kim Chi]

Also, like, she wasn't in like, a mood to, like, you know, like, celebrate, you know? So what is she supposed to do, you know?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I guess.

[Kim Chi]

However, my favorite thing about watching drag queens on Drag Race is watching them get salty. That is my favorite thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We stand salt. We.

[Kim Chi]

We love salt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love a good. I love a good umami queen. You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

Salt bay.

[Kim Chi]

I love a good salt queen. I'm gonna lick it like a salt lamp.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Arietti, Susie, and Luck devastated that Lucky Stars has gone home. And Joella literally cannot understand why the girls are. She's like, why the hell they might.

[Monet X Change]

I know. I'm trying to think if there's anyone like that on season 10. I don't think there's anyone on season 10 that we got emotional, like, overemotional about. There's no one that we left. And we were all boohooing, crying. We were all like, okay, sad to see you go next.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. On our season two, like, at first, it was, like, sad the first couple episodes, but then after that, we're like, all right, whatever. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, to be fair, Kim and I were crying pretty hard when Acid Betty got eliminated. I don't think it was because. I don't think Kim was crying because Acid Betty. I was crying because Acid Betty went home, and Kim was crying because she was like, wow, this is a really hard competition. I still hold this to this day. Kim, me and Kim are side by side. It's a sad clown leaning on. Leaning on this. This crazy clown. And she go. And we're both boohooing. So bad. The more esteemed had to be like, bob, stop. Do you remember that? She goes, bob, stop. And then Kim's looking at me and she goes, I didn't know it would be this hard. Like, as a sad clown, I didn't know it would be this hard. We were both just balling like Kimchi, watching the Korean drama on the treadmill, bitch.

[Kim Chi]

And, you know, luckily all of that was cut out. Like, you know, none of us saw there, thank God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you know what?

[Kim Chi]

As far as anyone, I didn't cry. It was actually Bob who cried, you know, I did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You got me there. So Arietta says, Arietta is like, so they're asking the girls, the girls, like, you know, congratulating girls and asking other girls how they felt. So arietty, who, in my opinion, should have won the challenge, I like her outfit the best. Agreed to go when they're like, hey, how did you feel? She goes, it is what it is. But that's what she said to the girls. But her confessional, she is like, I can't believe Sam, start one in that ass boot scoot boogie ass, Walmart ass, lame bus driver ass wig.

[Monet X Change]

I, I will say the wig was suspicious. Like, I, I, I, I, as a kitty cat connoisseur, that was a suspicious kitty cat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why? I thought it was a nice kitty cat.

[Kim Chi]

I kind of like that wig. I thought it was cute. It looks like something you would have worn on Work the World.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honestly. It does. It was like a styled, it was not like a shake and go. It was a literally styled nice kitty cat wig.

[Monet X Change]

It looked like a helmet. It looked like it was hard. It looked like a helmet.

[Kim Chi]

It's like a finger wave. It had a little volume in it, you know, I was not mad, you know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think it's better than the kitty cats? You were on Drag Race.

[Monet X Change]

Why are you trying to be funny, though?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm asking. This is a legitimate question, Bob.

[Monet X Change]

You know. You know you're trying to be funny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm just. You don't have to answer. I'll answer.

[Kim Chi]

Get her, Bob.

[Monet X Change]

It's better than the ones you are in Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, first of all, I, I, I still stand by this for the most part, almost across the board. I had great. But not only did I have pretty good wigs, my wigs, every wig I wore was better than every wig you wore on Drag Race. That's just never.

[Monet X Change]

Bob, the fudgeing red one that you wore in the, in the, in the, what is it? The octaroons? What is it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Called we were. That wig is that red bowl cut. I love that. That red bowl cut was the fucking.

[Monet X Change]

Two tone Madonna wig.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, oh, the Madonna wig also. Great.

[Monet X Change]

Give. Can you please give? Talk to me as a Madonna superfan. Tell me about this, about, about this Madonna wig.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who had the best wigs? The question, me or Monet on our original seasons.

[Kim Chi]

Okay, I'm coming into this like, and looking at this objectively.

[Monet X Change]

Objectively.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bring up some receipts, Jacob.

[Kim Chi]

Objectively as like an outsider who was not involved in it and not taking any size. I would say Bob did have nicer wigs coming into Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you.

[Kim Chi]

Especially some of like there was like a custom hairline one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you.

[Kim Chi]

With that being said, I don't know if the wigs all fit properly, but they were nicer wigs that you brought in.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I did not learn Kim's art of big wiggery. Kim knows how to get the wigs for the big headed hoes. Taught me big headed girls need special wigs. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. So as we keep going on. So it's a new day, right? And Arietti is called out for being quiet because the girl like do us the impersonation of each other. So then I think Sam star does impersonate Marietti where she's quiet. And then Arrietty says a cunty bitch doesn't have to say much, but an ugly bitch does. And she sends it to Sam Starr. I was like, jesus Christ.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, honestly, I think I agree with her. It was pretty egregious that she did not win that song competition. I think her outfit was light years beyond Sam's. So I mean, she's probably just still really pent up and salty about that, which I agree.

[Kim Chi]

But you know, sometimes I genuinely feel like some of these winners are chosen to be like social media bait because if everybody won that where the general public agreed with, no one will be talking about the show on social media and things. So sometimes I feel like they purposely give the win to someone maybe that wasn't the right winner. And then it gets people talking. They get talking people talking on social media.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you two think you've ever been robbed of a win or given a win you didn't deserve?

[Kim Chi]

No, probably not.

[Monet X Change]

I think on All Stars 7, there were definitely some I could have won that I did not for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Were you ever given a win you didn't deserve?

[Monet X Change]

I'll give him one. I didn't deserve either one. I'm trying to think like either One either season I was on. You mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, sure.

[Monet X Change]

I. What did I win on? I don't remember. In. In my view, probably not. But in others, not the main win.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, the kitty cat. Honestly, I actually like that kitty cat. That's a nice kitty cat action. I like that one. That one I like.

[Kim Chi]

I think I was robbed during Perfect.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, who won?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Victor. Oh, Chichi.

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Chichi did a good job. Gigi ate big. Perfect down. She did.

[Kim Chi]

She wasn't as good as me, you know, but.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, they. They edited out Kimchi doing an upside down, which is shady to me. Get on that clock. That. No, I'm kidding.

[Kim Chi]

I'm not gonna take chichi. Shine away.

[Monet X Change]

RuPaul comes in, he announces a maxi challenge, and the girls are creating commercials for I'm a Drafting Volume one and two, which is basically a acting challenge, kind of. So this is what people are doing. Susie is doing the Valentina. You're perfect. You're beautiful. You look like a model. Sam is doing Kandy and Tamisha. Star quality.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone's. This is. Are you.

[Monet X Change]

We don't have to. We don't have to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I thought about writing them all down. I was like, this is a lot, but you can do. I mean, it's fine. What are the highlights from it that you. That you saw? Like, the ones that you.

[Monet X Change]

I'm just. Because there's still more in between that. Yeah. Anya's doing Put yout Lighters Up. Lydia is doing no Class, no Manners, which I don't remember. Like, no one cares about Morgan McMichaels thing from that. We only care about Bitch. I'm from Chicago. No one cares about Morgan had to say, no.

[Kim Chi]

No. The iconic. Sweetie, you need to fix your hair. Fix your mug. Yeah, that's. That's Morgan McMichaels. Me and Violet Toschke quote that to each other all the time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I did write down. I wrote down no class, no matter shit. We call bitch. I'm from Chicago.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Like, I was like, why that. Lexi is doing this is your moment. Lana's doing the Morgan Michaels part of the no class, no Manners. Corey is doing don't like. That's another one Trade. Oh, no trade. Didn't like the session. Right. Joella is doing we write the stories. That was another random one. I was like, Mariah, like, why that.

[Kim Chi]

Okay, so Mariah's, like, a amazing queen, you know, but all the other, like, speeches were very, like, prolific and, like, iconic. And Mariah's speech, like, I genuinely, like, don't remember seeing it. And I had to, like, go look it up, and I'm like, this. Yeah. Why would they pick this one?

[Monet X Change]

I think it was so. Because Drag Race, we have so many iconic things. Why? That was so weird.

[Kim Chi]

But I'm happy for Mariah to get her little moment to.

[Monet X Change]

You know, Jules is doing back rolls, Harmonica is doing I Nominate Myself by Chanel. Crystal is doing unprofessional. Another weird one to me. Oh, no. Yeah, it was. Arietty's doing back rolls with Jules, and Acacia is doing star Quality with Sam.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know why it drove me so crazy. You read all those. I was like, this is. This is killing me. This is killing me.

[Monet X Change]

People who listen to the podcast, they want. They want clarity.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm assuming they already know because they want. They watch the show. That's not the point. That's not the point. The point is, I really liked. If I would have got one, I would have wanted the Glamazon bitch one that Corey King pulled. That's such. Such a great. It's probably one of the greatest, like, monologues. It's up there with, you're perfect, you're beautiful. You're like a model.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I'm annoyed that, like, I. I hate that they. They chose it, but you didn't know what your genre was. Because I'm like, that's a big part of it. Like, so, I mean, I guess that's also part of the challenge is whatever it is, you just have to do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you don't choose them. You just take the one on top. They weren't choosing.

[Monet X Change]

No. Yeah, right. So it sucks to me that you, like, you. You're just. You're just thrusted with. With a genre that you may not do. Like Joella doing gospel. She maybe should have been better doing country and western. I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you would have gotten. They didn't pick them. They. They were just given one, so they would have gotten the genre no matter what. They can't change the genre.

[Monet X Change]

I know. I'm saying that part sucks about not. Not being able to choose a genre that you get.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, and then I would love to have to, like, the queens, you know, like, fight over, like, which genre that they wanted. That would have provided great drama, too, instead of, like, just getting stuck with whatever they pulled.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I agree.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

RuPaul says. RuPaul says, these are not imitations. You're not doing impersonations. Make it your own. She wants it to be reimagined. And then at some point, I hear Jules being Like, I'm going to ch. Channel Alyssa. And I was like, ooh, that's not what she has said. But it didn't end up affecting it because I don't think she really channeled her.

[Monet X Change]

I'm about to say, if she was channel Alyssa, it wasn't that. Would that read for me? And in her thing, can I say.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

One of my favorite things is when they're. When they're listening to their music. I just wrote this down. Love, Alana goes, I pray for something. Cunt. I love it. I pray for something that is like, I want to show this. I pray for something kind. That is such a great, unintentionally brilliant line. I pray for something cut.

[Monet X Change]

I think we see Crystal taking the. Taking on this, like, group leader role. And it always surprises me to this day on Drag Race, we went too far.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I want to. We scooped over something real quick. Harmona Lisa is sitting here in a shaking and go wig saying she has never worn a shake and go wig. And before it wasn't it. I was like, bitch, you are. I've, like, in a shake and go wig saying I have never worn. And that's how she goes. And I don't even think she shook it.

[Monet X Change]

A hard front wig. Not even a girl. Not even a lace front. A hard front shake and girl wig is crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's in the Roscoe's Drag hall of Fame now. It is.

[Monet X Change]

It is. No. Oh, yeah. Then I saw another clip that she gave it to somebody else somewhere else.

[Kim Chi]

Has a. I'm sure she has multiples of this wig.

[Monet X Change]

You know, multiple. She's a Santa Claus. Going to different gigs and giving this wig to different people. That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To be fair, she probably bought them in, but she could have bought five at a time. They don't look terribly expensive if we're.

[Monet X Change]

Gonna keep it a buck.

[Kim Chi]

Do you remember Peppermint's border wig?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Border? What do you mean, border?

[Kim Chi]

So on work the world tour, Peppermint had a wig that, like, she kept in her bag. And then every time we cross the border between Canada and, like, North America, and then we have to, like, like, show our passports and all that. Peppermint, put on this wig.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it. It's probably the hair she's wearing on the passport. Probably.

[Kim Chi]

So then we call it. We ended up calling that wig the border wig.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm screaming in the border wig. Word.

[Kim Chi]

The border. Here comes the border.

[Monet X Change]

My worst part about a fucking bus tour is having to wake up at 4 o'clock in the morning or 3 o'clock in the morning to have to fucking cross the border. Anyway.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was like, is there beef we don't know about?

[Kim Chi]

But also, at this point, I said, we accepted as drag community. It's okay not to pad.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I think we do too. But Sam is definitely, like, she can tell she's an old school southern type of drag person. She probably doesn't feature that type of drag at all, which is her prerogative. But yeah, I mean, at this day and age, I mean, I think I see. I see if you go to a bar, you will go and see a couple of bitches with no pads on because they want to have their toes out and, like, out and yada, yada, yada, yada.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can have your toes out, not your legs. You can have your knees down. You can even have, like, high thigh down and wear a pad. I mean, I still wear a pad. I think it. In my humble opinion, I do think that most queens look better with pads on, in my opinion. Unless you're wearing something that doesn't. That doesn't hug your body. But what do I know? I'm just. I'm just some drag queen.

[Kim Chi]

I think it's fine if you, like, proportionalize it. Like, I see queens, like, fully padded with hip, but that they wear no breasts.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then the lip sync or, like.

[Kim Chi]

They'Ll pat the side of the hips, but then they don't feel the back. So then it's like, yeah, girl, that be.

[Monet X Change]

That's the part. What do you. What do you go all the time putting hip pads on and no butts. When you turn to the side and you are just.

[Kim Chi]

Just like flat in the back, you know, if you're gonna do it, like, fully, like, sculpt yourself, you know, don't do it, you know?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that's the part that'd be a little fishy for me. So I was saying, Chris Lu's taking on this lead before they even get into the challenge. Like. Like when they're just working the workroom. Crystal's taking on the lead group leader role of her team, and it's still it. It surprises me when girls do this on Drag Race because at this point, I can't think of the last challenge when Rude judged it as a group. Like, I can't think of maybe Season three, like, that has been a thing. So why would you put yourself, like, in this position?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, not season three. They judged it as a group on our. On our season.

[Monet X Change]

On season eight.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They did, yeah. And they've probably done it. I'm sure they've done it after that. I'm sure.

[Kim Chi]

Also, it changes, like, depending on, like, how the girls do sometimes.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

Like, they'll be like, all right, we're gonna judge this group this time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, it does make sense. If a group is overwhelmingly bad. You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

To have a leader.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. To judge by groups. If one team is overwhelmingly bad, then I say yes. Judging by groups.

[Monet X Change]

Where's my thing? Do you think. Do you think they decide that. Do you think, like, ruin them? Decide that, like, after they see them, they're like, okay, this was so bad. We have to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would.

[Monet X Change]

100.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

But I think you should know that going in.

[Kim Chi]

But, you know, like, Drag Race has never been about, like, let's get the best person or whatever, you know?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

Everyone chosen, you know, for a political statement or, you know, for a reason.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But sometimes they get it right.

[Kim Chi]

Not our season, but.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So. Okay. One thing that drives me. How do you guys not know this? Like, tumbleweed rolls with wind when, like, tumbleweed is not just, like, picking up momentum by itself. They're like, let's just toss. I'm like, girl, no, Tumbleweed is being blown through. I don't know how they don't know that.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. And I also think if she was going to play the Tumbleweed, they should have, like, stuck some straw on her or something, because out of context, she's just rolling in the back. You don't understand what it's supposed to be. I'm like, girl, they have just cut some of it and glue it on her elbows or, like, on her. Like, it just looked. I could have held. She could have held it in her hands and tumb.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

That's how you going to hold in your hand and tumble.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You just hold it. Just.

[Kim Chi]

But also, you're expecting drag queens to, like, know gravity and science and all this, you know, like, what else.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Physics.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's that?

[Monet X Change]

Queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who's that queen from kind. The queen from Canada who's, like, a mathematician.

[Kim Chi]

A kind.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, she. You know, she's like a. She's like a legit mathematician. It's kind of crazy.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, she released a book. I wrote the blurb for it. So, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've. I've.

[Monet X Change]

I've written. I've Written a forward on a book before too. Bob, have you written a forward on a book before?

[Kim Chi]

A book?

[Monet X Change]

He wrote a book.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wrote a whole book. Wait, Kim, do you still do any graphic design work at all?

[Kim Chi]

Not really.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, okay, that makes sense. You're doing other stuff anyway. I wrote down that hitting someone in the face with a powder puff but not using a lot of powder seemed crazy to me. I agree.

[Monet X Change]

I really should have had like, it should have been like a slight gag. But also. Well, I guess at this point you don't, you don't care if your makeup gets ruined. But it's also just powder. It'll brush off. But yeah, I agree. Like you're hitting it, but there's no effect. There's no like, you know, just based.

[Kim Chi]

On like how like the queens are doing. I was like, a lot of them don't have like experience like producing and like directing because these are the little details that only people who have done it before would know or even like how things are going to read on camera, like costuming wise.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I also don't like that when queens have to be funny, they're like, I have to do my makeup crazy.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I'm like, why can't you just like do your standard face and then just do something funny like smear their.

[Kim Chi]

Makeup for like a stand up routine? And I'm like, that's not really funny. You just have bad makeup.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I'm like, I don't, I don't, I, I don't personally get it. I mean, I don't and I like, it just didn't make it. One of the, I can't remember, one of. We had these giant lips that they would never do. I was like, this doesn't look good and it doesn't make sense, guys. Like, come on, let's, let' let's think outside. Let's think, let's not think this far outside of the box, you know?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't remember seeing that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Harmona was, they felt like Harmona wasn't doing a lot, but she felt like she was doing enough. And to be honest, in the end I think I thought it worked.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, she was the, she was the Chanel.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, are we talking about the, are doing them recording it or the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When she was recording it, the girls were like, she's not doing enough. But then when they play back, it looked like she was doing a lot.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I would say so, too. And also, I think that when Cory was doing hers, like, I was, like, trusting, like, Corey's vision. Cause Cory seems to be a pretty funny person, and she understands comedy a little bit. So I'm, like, trusting the process. I'm like, you know what? It's one of those things that looks crazy doing it, but it's gonna turn out well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cut to. Let's go to group number two. So Susie. I think Susie has some really good ideas. Susie seems to be a really seasoned performer who knows how to get her message across very easily.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I wonder what. I mean, she's from Florida. Does she. I know she's a theater queen. Mean, like, she likes theater. Do we know that? Did she work in, like, does she work in theater?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

Let me call her up.

[Monet X Change]

Hey, Susie. Jacob, see if you can figure it out really quick.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I mean, Anya. Also, I've noticed that Anya doesn't seem terribly interested in working with the group. Group, like, in general, she's. She's giving herself very much lone wolf vibes.

[Monet X Change]

I agree. I hate group projects. I hate group projects. I don't like them at school. I don't like them at work. I hate doing with other people. Like, when. When it feels that there's, like, there's, like, a lot on the line, I. I don't like relying on other people with my work.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kim, how do you feel about doing the. The group numbers on Work the World?

[Monet X Change]

So.

[Kim Chi]

They always come in so much drama. Always, always, always. Like, there's always a queen who thinks, like, she's, like, too cool to do, like, certain parts, so then, like, they'll get in, like, fights with everybody. Rehearsal is always a nightmare because, like, everybody always, like, flies in, like, several days before. But there's always, like, that one queen who would, like, fly like, on the last day just because, like, to hold power over. So then everybody, like, rehearses over and over again. And when the queen gets there, we have to, like, basically teach her and then rehearse over and over again. So then everybody's, like, exhausted, and then.

[Monet X Change]

I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

[Kim Chi]

And then, like, that Quinn is always, like, the messing up. And, like, you guys never taught me. And I'm like, you showed up late.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How do you feel about. Did you have any thoughts about the group. The group numbers on Work the Realmo.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I. My first time going to Work the World, I think I was just always just excited to be on tour with, like, all these drag. Drag race queens that I loved And I always wanted to work with. So I was just more so, like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God, I get to do.

[Monet X Change]

Numbers with all these girls. The second time I did Work the World, I was like, all right. I was like, these group numbers, they're still fun, though. I actually like them. I think I like it all the time.

[Kim Chi]

I love.

[Monet X Change]

I love chaos and the grooming. Group numbers that work the world is chaos. People don't want to do this. People can't do this. It's like the energy is so chaotic, and I kind of love it.

[Kim Chi]

And also, it is kind of, like, cheesy, but that's what I like about it. I love cheesy parts of drag, too. You know, we can be, like, grand for our own numbers. And then, like, group numbers were like.

[Monet X Change]

I know, the group numbers be so cheesy. Put your right foot in and put your right hand.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, any of you, I don't know if. I don't know if Kim's still working the world. She's done a lot of time. But I will tell you this. If any of you girls want to know how to. How to work the world, talk to Kim Chi. When I. You did the Halloween show a couple years ago when I came. Was that you? Did you do the Halloween show?

[Kim Chi]

I did. Yeah, baby.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When I came back to the. When I tell you, Kim has it down to a science. The other girls are backstage trying to get their stuff together. Baby, Kim is. Kim's waiting to know you at the dough. Kim's bag is packed. Kim has. She. She. She meticulously plans her outfit that she is wearing. Like, the thing that's the. That's the Easy to take over the end. She is so meticulous that Kim is not only putting on a great show, wearing fantastic outfits, but she is ready to. When. When I tell y'all, Kim, don't play around. Kim is efficient at these.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, my bag is, like, fully, like, packed and closed even before the show is over.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it's very impressive. I was gagging. I was like. Cause when I had left, you hadn't quite figured out the system yet. When I came back, I was like, oh, my God, Kim. She's like, yeah, girl.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Kim and Naomi taught me a lot about touring. I learned. I learned. I really learned how to tour a lot from Kim and Naomi. Like, Naomi laying out Naomi laying out every rhinestone nail hair of a brush that she might use is all. I'm like, okay, that's good. Good to know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So back to Drag Race. The girls don't tell if they're living for what Lexi's doing, and she's doing the Jasmine Kennedy. I'm trying to think like, Monet, were you gagged that you didn't have a moment in there?

[Monet X Change]

No, I don't think I have any moments on Drag Race. That would.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jesus. No point. There's no big, like. I think it's gotta be like, a big monologue, low key, or a huge fight.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Do y'all have one? Y'all think that would have been longer than there?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, we didn't really have any monologues. I mean, we had. We had a fight between Derek and Naomi in a fight between me and Derek. And I think that was, like, the biggest fights of our season.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I mean, maybe. I mean, I think. I think if they was. They weren't such controversial figures at this point. I think maybe Eureka and Vixen could have some. But I just don't think, you know, the Vixen and Eureka had so many moments our season. So many, baby, you don't know me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So they reveal. The reveal that Corey King is trying to do is not giving the fantasy she thinks it is giving. She was so excited to go grab that fucking dress. But I was like, girl, that is a. She got bedazzled, crusted. Baby, it's a sequin dress.

[Kim Chi]

She's like, I'm gonna be a chicken. And then she just, like, ran with that chicken idea. But, like, the original Spirit of Kendri speech wasn't even about being a chicken.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, it was. And also. Cause she was grabbing the dress that she revealed to the one that she had on from the episode before. But I was like, it's not, like, iconic enough.

[Kim Chi]

Or.

[Monet X Change]

Or maybe in the season, she felt that this dress would have more moment. Like, it would be. There'd be more weight to it, but it didn't really have the weight she thought it was gonna have.

[Kim Chi]

She thought this dress was gonna be like her sponge dress.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I think so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also, the thing is, like, she should have done, like, they should have done, like, a TikTok reveal where she's actually wearing the dress and then someone grabs it and rips it off. But then they just cut the cameras and they just pull it, and it looks like they ripped it off. Off. Versus just literally laying the. Laying the dress on top of your. Laying a stretch dress, which, by the way, is smaller than your body on top of your gigantic hips. I was like, girl, what is happening here?

[Kim Chi]

But with that being said, we love. We love delusion. That's like, another. My favorite aspect of drug that I love. I love delusional queens.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, last thing I'll say about Corey, too, I do think that Corey. Actually, I do think there was a way to edit Corey's thing to be funny, but I do think on a base level, it wasn't that funny. Also, she was like, comedy comes in so many different forms, and I am not a physical comedian. My humor is rarely through my body. Sometimes it's like a little bit of waist up. If I'm doing like this, like, Simone in person, that can be kind of funny, or, you know, the Utica Hoo. Hi. Ha ha. Like, there's. There's a physical aspects to that thing, but, like, falling is such a specific form of comedy that I don't do. Just so. Just because you're funny doesn't mean you will be good at physical comedy.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. And on the heels of delusion, I love this moment. On Drag Race, everyone comes back from the challenge, whether it be this improv thing or Snatch Game, and be like, everyone is confident. Everyone feels like they nailed it. Everyone thinks that, oh, I know I was funny. I know I'm not on the bottom. Everyone is so confident, and I'm like, I love that because it's so delusional. But also, you don't have an audience to react to them. So you think. I definitely suffer from this. On Drag Race, I remember coming back from Whitney Houston, I was like, honestly, put me on. Put me on snl, girl. Put.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I.

[Monet X Change]

Put me on snl, baby.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I get so mad. I told you not to do that, and you did it. I told you. I told you. I also love. This is the. This is the schadenfreude to me. But I also love when they come back and everyone's like, girl, I'm in the bottom. I love when they come back, like, girl, this is the shittiest week we've ever done. Girl, none of us are going to be in it. None of us ate, girl. No one ate.

[Monet X Change]

Was there a challenge for Wolf, y'all, in Season eight that y'all felt like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That, where no one ate?

[Monet X Change]

No, we.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honestly, we had a pretty talented season, and we. A few people flopped, but no one. There was never like a. We all. We never had, like, a Season four Snatch Game, but not all of you.

[Monet X Change]

I'm just saying this. Was there a challenge individually that y'all like. Y'all went and y'all was like, oh, I killed it. Or you thought you did really bad, and you actually did really good one. There's not one chance that both of y'all felt that way or one of y'all.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There were times I thought I did bad and I did do bad. I, I did, I thought I did poorly and I did do poorly, but I never thought I did great and did poorly, though.

[Monet X Change]

And vice versa.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I, I, I still to this day think that my book look was great, but I didn't enrich the materials, apparently. Do you think, do you think your book look was better than Chi Chi's? No, I didn't say I should have won the challenge. Do you think it was better than Kim's? And do you think it was better than Naomi's?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone else there. No, wait, who else? There was with someone else there. Derek.

[Monet X Change]

And it was better than Derek's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was better than Derek Barry's. That is, Everyone will give you that. Is there no one else there besides us?

[Monet X Change]

Top five?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah. Then I guess I, I guess I should have been in the bottom too.

[Kim Chi]

No, but also, like the entire season had been leading up to, like, Bob versus Derek lip sync. So, you know, it made sense. You know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Crystal feels very confident because she took a. She took on a leadership role. But then there's a moment where every time Joella opens her mouth about feeling good, the other girls are all like, oh. Whenever Joella. Whenever Joella cannot breathe without these girls being like, okay, okay.

[Kim Chi]

I am, like, kind of obsessed with Joella. I feel like she's, like, the flavor that's been missing from Drag Race again.

[Monet X Change]

Look at my screensaver. I'm obsessed.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

I am obsessed, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We are currently living in the Joella dynasty, honey. We are so lucky to be in the time of the Joella dynasty. Ms. Thing.

[Kim Chi]

Honestly, like, I want her in every episode. I just want to see her be her, you know?

[Monet X Change]

Cam, imagine. Imagine Joella coming to a game night.

[Kim Chi]

Which game would he play with her?

[Monet X Change]

No one. I can't imagine Joelle playing Secret Hitler. I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What if she's the super Smash Brothers queen and she eats you down? Then what?

[Kim Chi]

I feel like that's not possible.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. No way.

[Kim Chi]

Not. Not with this. Not with this lineup.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So Kim and I, for sure.

[Kim Chi]

I mean, like, our game night already gets so tense because between you, Monet, me, Selena, Naomi, Andy, and. And then other people, like, the throw there, like, we are all very, like, chaotic, competitive people. So.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, see, so the girls are all.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Saying, when they started drag, I'm a Pride Queen. How about y'all your college? College show?

[Monet X Change]

I was college. First time in drag was college. But the first time I did, like, in the world, like, for real was Pride.

[Kim Chi]

Mine was Halloween.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're Halloween. Are we Shame? Like, why would I shame. Like, shaming Halloween queens is the thing that I didn't. I didn't realize, like, boo, you're a Halloween queen. I. I said, on my season, like, there's. There's. Most queens do two of these things. Halloween or Pride. Like, a lot of queens are Halloween queens or Pride Queen. I was a Pride Queen. And I didn't know we were shaming Halloween queens. Now, that seems wild to me.

[Monet X Change]

I figured we do that prize. You like finding yourself. You like being okay with being gay. You're going out to Pride, like, as, like, a fucking drag queen. Who's the most? Literally, we are. We are the most. But we. That is our equinox. We're the most powerful at Pride versus Halloween, where everybody wants to be a sexy whatever, and they just throw on a wig and be slutty. You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Halloween Kim just told you she's a Halloween queen. This is crazy. You know what?

[Kim Chi]

Monetary. I guess you win. I guess you're better than us. If that helps you sleep at night, good for you. You win.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Lexi was thrown out of her home for being queer. And this is a story that we get on Drag Race a lot. She was, like, thrown out, clothes out the window, and she lived in, like, a not evacuated, dilapidated, foreclosed home. But she was like. But honestly, it was better than being with my family.

[Monet X Change]

Girl, I can imagine. That sounds so traumatic. Sounds so traumatic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

As queens who I think have connected to their culture on RuPaul's Drag Race, it's really cool to see Anya and Joella having a conversation. But also, Joella did. I mean, she came in that traditional Chinese inspired drag, which I think was really fierce. Have we had that many Chinese drag queens on the show? I feel like we only had, like, two Chinese drag queens on the show.

[Monet X Change]

We have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You are and Joella.

[Monet X Change]

Who else?

[Kim Chi]

But also, I personally love seeing, like, cultural looks on Drag Race because culture is not a costume, so we. We can't see anybody else do it. So even if queens is, like, not in touch with the culture, I love to see them, like, research it, get to know more about their culture, and then have chance to, like, showcase those looks. Yeah, Like, I personally love that, so.

[Monet X Change]

I do, too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, we're gonna use the runways, but. But what's her name did a very Asian inspired look on the Runway. Lana Jarret.

[Monet X Change]

When?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Today on this episode on the Runway.

[Monet X Change]

It was Asian inspired.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We'll get to it. You'll see it. You'll see it when you get there.

[Kim Chi]

I was gonna say. Which one is she? I can't remember.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The tall, skinny one.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Lux, but stretched out. When we get to it. I went too early, so, in fact, we're here. Let's look at the Runway. Is RuPaul wearing pads? It looks like she's not.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. It's an interesting dress. I mean, RuPaul normally has body on, and I've heard through the grapevine that he, like, he, like, RuPaul was like, I'm going to wear body, like, whatever.

[Kim Chi]

But, you know, RuPaul's on so many seasons. You know, if Sean's like, you know what it. I'm just gonna wear a flowy dress at no pass. You know what? Who am I to judge?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I'm not judging. She looks pretty good. This dress is not terribly form fitting, but, like, is Rue now one of.

[Monet X Change]

The no padding girls, maybe. I wish she was. I wish she was one of these get my hair done girls. Because this wig was crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's wrong with it? I'm not. It's so small. I don't remember looking at it too hard.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know.

[Kim Chi]

It does look like it had, like, been in luggage and gotten a little flat.

[Monet X Change]

Literally. This look like this. Like she's on. She's on a show show. 38 of 40 of work the World Michelle looks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Michelle looks amazing. Can I say, one of the best times I ever had on Work the World was when we decided to bring a hairdresser on tour. I don't know why that was not being done every single time, every single.

[Kim Chi]

Wear, every single game, honestly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God, y'all.

[Monet X Change]

I'll say some.

[Kim Chi]

Some girls did take, like, advantage of it where.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, they did.

[Kim Chi]

They'll literally give like 10 wigs to a stylist and style all of these and then they'll just like, take those wigs to their gigs and not even, like, tip the hairdresser.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, they did. Yes, they did, Kim.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I've only known. Worked a role with the wig stylist, but that was also the tour that the wigs house, one of the queens got into a fight and had to leave the tour at some point. And I was like, this is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, girl. That wigs house was always fighting the queen. Probably the same queen got into in a epic showdown at Universal Studios. I mean, epic. Screaming. Yeah. Were you there for this cam?

[Kim Chi]

Oh, I was. Oh, I fully. I remember every detail because I was, like, so mad. So Bob and I. So there are half the people who drink and the other half who doesn't drink. And we were on like a guided tour where they could basically take us through all the rides, like through the back. So we get to, like, go through all the rides. But all the drinkers wanted to get a drink after every single ride. So then all the non drinkers were literally hanging around for 30 minutes waiting these people to, like, getting drunk. So then they're like, can we split the group in half? And they're like, yeah, we'd love to split the group for you. So the non drinkers can keep on going on the rides and the drinkers can, like, do things at their own pace. And then one queen's like, no, everybody wants to stay together. Why are you trying to split the group? I'm like, we're not even hanging out. You guys are just getting drunk anyways.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then. And then during the showdown it was it, y'all. I mean, one of the biggest fights I've ever seen that didn't actually come to blows. Like, it was disrupting the entire restaurant. Scre. We were in a private section, but still the whole restaurant was like, what is happening in there?

[Kim Chi]

Yes. Oh, yes. I also remember that. Yep, yep.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yo, that's why I tell y'all I'm sorry right now. These producers are not making these. Any girl, who told you the producers make them fight. They're lying. Drag queens fight on their own, of their own. Even when cameras aren't around, the queens are fighting, I assure you.

[Monet X Change]

We should go into these looks, though.

[Kim Chi]

Okay. That was also the same day where I got called the N word by a drunk person. Do you remember that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. Yes, I remember. I'm the one that told you. I'm the one that told you.

[Monet X Change]

Y'all see, y'all let me say something. This season, ten girls and up. We are. We are nice and sweet and kind. These older.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It wasn't a queen. It wasn't a queen that called it Kim the N word. But I went and I told Kim. I was like, this is what. What? This is what this person just said to you about you. He was like, don't tell her. Don't tell her, please. And I was like, no, no, I'm going directly to her. That was crazy. That was insane.

[Kim Chi]

And meanwhile, I was just, like, sitting there, just, like, minding my own business, literally doing nothing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet literally just sitting there, like, either, like, drinking something, eating something, or just walk looking around, looking at her ticket. And I was like, what the. I'm going to talk to Kim about what you just said. That was insane.

[Monet X Change]

Or let's go on to the running. Which category was. It was quilted. Quilted for the gods or something like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Quilted for her pleasure.

[Monet X Change]

Quilted for her pleasure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, okay, I think I've come to the conclusion that I don't think I appreciate Butthole's perspective on garments. Like, what am I looking at?

[Kim Chi]

Is this the cat lady one?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Yeah, she's the couch.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, wait, wait. Sorry, sorry. Kim, Jacob should probably send you the doc with the looks on.

[Kim Chi]

I'm looking at the doc, but I still don't have, like, I still can't tell the queens apart. Like, a lot of the queens.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is Lydia Butthole Collins, who was doing the. Who was doing. She was the cat. The cat. The couch.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The cat lady lets her cats.

[Kim Chi]

You know, this is actually one of my favorite looks, and I feel like the Cat lady look, of course, has been done on, like, the main stage before, but, you know, like, Cat lady representation matters, too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I get. I just don't. I don't. Maybe. Maybe this drag is too conceptual for me. What do you think, Monet? We need a tiebreaker.

[Monet X Change]

I think that. I think that what I've struggled with Lydia before is. I can't tell. I don't like the proportions of what she made. Like, that yellow thing. It was just a hodgepodge of mess where this. I like that we can see, like, we can see her waist section, obviously her midsection. Now, I love that she is. I never. I've never seen a white person with this much body lotion or oil ever. This bitch is lubricated more than.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it glitter?

[Monet X Change]

No, I think it's lubricated. I think she's lubricated. I think it's. She want to work or oil. So I like that. And I do think the. I didn't know what y'all. I did not like it before, but now I know that she is a cat that scratched a couch. I was like, oh, that's why she doesn't have any hands. And that's why, like, she. The thing is spilling out. So I like it. It's not a. It's not a. A shoot, but it's. It's a toot for me. I like this outfit.

[Kim Chi]

I'll say, like, one thing I wish she did better was, like, a little more contrast in the outfit because, like, the cat just kind of, like, it's dark, so it just blends in with the background and then everything else.

[Monet X Change]

What's the cat? There's a cat on it.

[Kim Chi]

There's a cat on it? Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I didn't. I didn't even see that.

[Kim Chi]

Like, I wish the cat was, like, a little. Or just, like, multiple cats on the outfit. Just, like, driving home the point instead of just like a cat.

[Monet X Change]

I also think, y'all, this is something with Drag Race needs to address or something now as this new stage, that's this sleek black thing. When girls wear black on the Runway, it loses so much definition. You can't, like, really see stuff, because before y'all, if I remember this, it used to be a silver tee, so you can see more dimension when someone wears black. Now when you wear black, it just disappears on the stage.

[Kim Chi]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, when me and Kim were on Drag Race, the stage was literally a tee. There was no. There was negative space. If you fell off the stage, you would fall, like, four feet to the ground. But then Directly after our season, they put in these platforms, and the girls are lip syncing all throughout the platform. They're walking around. We had to lip sync on the tee.

[Monet X Change]

No, no, no, no. Season 10, they only put it for challenges. For season 10, we were still. We were also the tease as well, which is crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We were lip syncing on this little two strips.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, you lip synced.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I did, Kim. I did.

[Monet X Change]

Gather that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've already gathered Kim. Okay, let's gather that, honey.

[Monet X Change]

Let's go to Lana Jarret. I thought her makeup was so beautiful. The colors on her eyes, doing the white eyebrows. I thought. I thought the concepts was beautiful. And I like this look from the shins up. I don't like the things on her shins or her legs. They were weird to me. But everything else.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Outfit. Not Sailor Moon. Am I crazy?

[Monet X Change]

Sailor Moon.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. It's kind of like a wrinkled Sailor Moon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Like, it's got, like, the thing. No, like, just quilts, but. No, but the. The. That thing Sailor Moon does with the. The school girl thingy.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She kept me like, this is a really unique. So I was like, this is. Girl. This is cool. To Sailor Moon, I would say, dude.

[Kim Chi]

She looks very beautiful, but I think, like, her outfit is kind of like, I'm going to burning men. But I don't. I don't know if there was, like, a much concept to it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I think that she.

[Kim Chi]

It's just, like, colors and wrinkles.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

She does look at the wrinkles. Read.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She does look good. But I. I do think she thought she ate harder than she did. But she does look good. Good. But I think. But how much of that is just that she happens to be very. Are you in a tornado? Is there an earthquake where you are? I think. I think most of it. She happens to be really beautiful. And not that the outfit is, like, really giving all this, like, fantasy. She. Sometimes when you're, like, really skinny and really pretty, it's really easy to make stuff look good. That's why I say if you're a skinny, pretty girl and you look bad, I don't know what the you did.

[Kim Chi]

I feel like this, like, look is very, like, second number on a Wednesday night.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Really?

[Monet X Change]

Y'all?

[Kim Chi]

I mean, I like it, you know.

[Monet X Change]

But I like it. I thought the hair was cool. The makeup looked cool. I thought it was cool. The hair reminds me of that. Remember when. You know that. That neon hair that Naomi did?

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

With, like, the puffs, the palms. Which it might be for something else, too. I just know it from Naomi.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go on to what I think will be the golden boot of the season. This is a century. This.

[Monet X Change]

The fact that she got the email with the prompts for the runways she saw quilted and she thought about this as her look to bring to Drag Race is insane to me. And why. She is one of the most iconic queens, I think, that has ever been on RuPaul's Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I think she literally just went and bought a quilt. Like, she literally just bought an actual quilt. This is crazy.

[Kim Chi]

I mean, it's clearly sewn, and then, like, there's, like, structures in it to, like, keep this up. So obviously someone actually spent time on this. But Also, like, the RuPaul, like, face on it is just a little too, like, kiss ass for me, you know? Like, Drag Race is your time. So, like, why are you making your look about RuPaul and not you?

[Monet X Change]

And why is Ru cockeyed? Why is Ru looking at the camera like this?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm screaming. I forget that you can make your eyes cockeyed. This such a talent that I.

[Monet X Change]

You can't do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'll go all the time. My eyes look in the same direction. I think they can go in, but you can make one go in, which is insane.

[Kim Chi]

I mean, I'll say this, though, because Drag Race and how popular it's gotten, it is hard to get things made, like, from designers nowadays, because all the designers are pretty limited who can do it in, like, a limited time. And then they all know, like, what day you're leaving. And they know, like, they can ask for whatever price, and you're gonna pay it because you want to go on drag, Grace. So you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

As we say, to quote Alyssa Edwards, mama, this is garbage. And I think it would have been better if her face was poking out of the quilt.

[Monet X Change]

I saved this look.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, let me finish. If her face is poking out, like, the quilt is like, think Lady Gaga when she did Art pop, and her head was on that big blank thing. Instead of your face being behind it, your face is, like, in it. Right? And then if the quilt was like, some. If it was wrapped around her body but not like a big quilt, but instead of being like a. A blank, like a big rectangle. If it was somehow wrapped around her body in some sort of a form fitting way, because she does. She does pad pretty well when she wears titties. So this look was. This look was just insane. Insane.

[Kim Chi]

I think this look could have been something had she, like, ripped a quilt up on the stage and there was, like, another look underneath it. I think that would have been. Yes, but to have justice look.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I thought a reveal was coming. Like, I thought there was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh.

[Monet X Change]

I was like, there's for sure reveal is coming. And then that was a reveal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The reveals. RuPaul, girl. When. When. When. When this walk down the Runway and y'all thought it was real. Y'all literally said, I pray for something cunt. We did the. The prayer of Lana Jaray. I pray for something cunt. But we did not get. We got. This is actually cut in its own way, but in the most uniconic. In the most ironic way ever.

[Kim Chi]

It's, like, to wear this, you know, it's iconic, ironic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's move on to Arietti and it.

[Monet X Change]

The. She's. I think this is a very fine, thin quilting fabric, but it doesn't give quilting. I think. I think Bianca has a video of her stitching something like this, and someone showed it on Twitter, and I think Bianca made.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bianca made her fat. Her dress.

[Monet X Change]

No, no, no. Bianca, like, used the same fabric. Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bianca made her dress. It's crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Bianca used the same fabric in something a few years ago, and this is a very, like, the thinnest. I mean, like, quilting, like a. A sheet of paper is not. When you think of quilt, you think it's, like, a little heavier and thicker. So I think technically, it is quilted, but it doesn't look it. I think it's a cool outfit. I like is the cats under it with this thing and the glass and, you know, I think it's, like, a nice outfit, but it just doesn't give. Quilted.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. I think she looks extremely high fashion, and she looks really good, but I don't know if it's, like, a look to where I'm going to be, like, inspired by her. Like, remember?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Sometimes when you go too out of the box, you end up missing the mark, and you end up with something that's just. You try. It's just too out of the box. Let's move on to Jules Sparkles. This look is fine. I don't hate it. It looks perfectly fine to me.

[Kim Chi]

It's kind of like, like 2012. Like, pop diva, like, music video look kind of.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, a little bit. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I can see. I can see Gaga wearing this in something a while ago.

[Kim Chi]

I feel like she's gonna perform, like, get this party started, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, very.

[Monet X Change]

That.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's move on to Hermona Lisa, who. Who is doing a. A nod that Monet has done on RuPaul's records before I did. Yeah. This is her. She said this is her. Inspired by Code of Many Colors.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I didn't even hear her say that. I. I think this is good. I think. I think what's. What would have been really cool is if the thing under it wasn't a leotard. If it was a catsuit, maybe like a fully full foot. Like, it would be very like, Richard Quinn vibes, you know what I mean? And feel like super. One thing and it'd be more high fashion. But it just being a leotard underneath, I think made the thing look cheap. Although it was quilted. Her mom quilted it for her. The coat. I love the coat. I just hate it. Reveals are just a leotard.

[Kim Chi]

I would say, like, she looks good in this one, but to me, this is clothes, not necessarily fashion, but she does look good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't like this hair on her, though. This. This was not the hair.

[Monet X Change]

Agree. The hair.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's like a head wig in the Angry inch or something.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah.

[Kim Chi]

I feel like with the styling, this could have easily been some sort of, like, a concept, you know, like a country music star or something. But it's kind of like I'm just this outfit and quilt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go on to Crystal Envy everything. Wow.

[Kim Chi]

She looks stuff like Scarlet Envy here.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No relation, though.

[Monet X Change]

Ate this up. Her body looks incredible. The coat was dope. And then revealing that it's catsu. That it has cool to going up the sides of it. The hair was really cool. This was such a great fucking look. Only if I had to nitpick about something so tiny, so minute. Would be as if her whopper. Those Whopper poppers, the snaps were the same colors of fabric because, you know, to make them in almost every color, that would have been nice. But other than that girl, everything.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. Sickening. Stunning, Beautiful.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think this is the best look of the season so far.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I think about that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think so. I mean, I. I don't. I'm recalling everything but this. That look was really good.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I don't remember what the last episode.

[Kim Chi]

That's a very, like, deep compliment. I'm not gonna say that yet, but I think she looks amazing.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go on to Susie Toot. And I. I do love. Okay. I don't know why Susie Too doesn't. I'm no shade to your signature thing. I do not know why Susie too doesn't do her makeup like this all the time. I did not know. Susie, too, knew how to do makeup. That was not bad, for lack of a better word.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, she looks beautiful. It's also not everyone. I don't know if it's, like, the Runway, but, like, the outfit is kind of, like, forgettable to me, mostly because it just blends into the background.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. You can't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're not wrong, girl.

[Monet X Change]

With this new Runway, I'm telling you, dark colors. They had to revisit it the upcoming season. Dark colors just disappear. You can't see dimensionally because it's so reflective in the colors. Like, it's really hard to see. And also, they read the other girl for quilted. What the fuck was quilting on her outfit?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, well, no, I mean, we're gonna read it. I'm gonna. I wrote it down, actually, because. Because. Because obviously, as you know, Carson Kressley is like, a fashion bible, and he knows every reference to everything ever. I mean, it's in my other notes. I'll get to in a second. Carson, Chrisley said that it was a. Hold on, hold on. He said it was a.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. Why you do that? I'm gonna say, I think that tramp art quilt. What does that mean? Tramp art quilt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's a quilt. It's a specific kind of quilt from the 1930s called tramp art quilt.

[Monet X Change]

This bitch. She got her fabric from the 30s, too. Jesus Christ.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I'm just saying. I'm gonna go back and say, like, her makeup looks great. Like, the reason my makeup was bad on season eight, because I didn't know how to do better makeup. She knows how to do better makeup, and she's choosing not to do it. That's crazy.

[Monet X Change]

And what is your excuse now?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That wasn't even a good one. Anyway, should we move on?

[Monet X Change]

I was gonna say, I think that I was more so, like, I was, like, mesmerized by how pretty she looked. I think her makeup and, like, how beautiful she was able to make paint herself. I was, like, mesmerized by that. That I didn't even pay attention to the fact that her outfit. I mean, I can' apparently, it was some 1920s boop boop quilt that I've never fucking heard of. But I think. I think her makeup was so pretty. But I hate also that she still did that small lip. I'm like, bitch, give me a big. Give me a big mouth.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did she do small lip?

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Kim Chi]

I guess not all of us are naturally blessed like Monet, you know, that's why I draw.

[Monet X Change]

You can literally make it up you can make these lips as big as you want.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Should we go on to Sam Star? I love this. I feel like this is kind of like a concept that we've seen a few times.

[Kim Chi]

The Victor and Ralph like, inspired.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I feel like I haven't seen one where the hair goes into the pillow like this.

[Monet X Change]

Jada did it on her season for the finale or something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She did the hair into the pillow as well.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, she had a black wig and it went into the pillow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, work then. We have seen it. But I mean, just because it's been done doesn't mean you can't do it again. She did it well. She honestly legit looks great. Great.

[Kim Chi]

She looks amazing. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I think she looks really cool. I think it's a cool take on a sleeping bag. It was cool.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go on to Acacia Forgot. Acacia forgot has her grandmother's doily and her mother's quilt. Like, she actually has family heirlooms in this garment. And honestly, she looks pretty good.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, she looks good. I like it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I like the hair. I think this outfit is cool. I don't like the sleeves of this dress, but I do love the structure of this dress. I think it's very flattering to the body. I love she has this, like, old. Like 19, I guess. I'm gonna guess it's from the 80s. Although I think a box like that is more from. This is more like a 50s thing. And I love that she put the doors in the hair. I think her hair and the dress are good. I hate the sleeves.

[Kim Chi]

Only thing I wish, like, that was different with. Maybe she was wearing like a lace tights or something instead of just like, bare leg with this look.

[Monet X Change]

That could be cool.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's not wearing fishnets.

[Kim Chi]

Fishnets. But, you know, I mean, instead of just like, legs, I feel like she should have been, like, covered up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I had a pair of fishnets that. That like one pair. I don't think anymore I haven't found them. That has a seam going down the back of the leg. I love this.

[Monet X Change]

They still make those. The black fishnets with the seam in the back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I need to give more. I love Very sexy.

[Monet X Change]

They're very sexy. Those. Those kind of fishnets. Let's go on to Ms. Anya Nerve. I thought on your nerve looked beautiful. The only thing I would did not like was that you have this diagonal motif of the quilt going to the top and the bottom. And at the bottom, you shrink yourself by having just it going horizontal. I think it was such an interesting choice not to like why shouldn't you keep that motif?

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I think she should have adorned herself in more jewelry. Big bangles, big wooden jewelry. Yeah, like the. The bare arm. It needs some big, chunky wooden jewelry, even in bright colors. Painted in bright colors on her arm, I think would look really nice with this.

[Monet X Change]

I agree.

[Kim Chi]

And her makeup looked really cool.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah. She is still doing that, like, 2016. Hard cheek, though. You remember that? 2016.

[Monet X Change]

All three of us used to do that cheek.

[Kim Chi]

I mean, I still do it. I do you sometimes.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, sometimes. Yeah. I mean, I used to. Girl, I. Y'all wanted to paint. I used. I literally used to get a pair of old tights. The box or the. The paper in the box. I would cut it from my cheek and I would go like.

[Kim Chi]

Like, I know I miss it.

[Monet X Change]

And I have that, like, hard cheek. Like, Bob and I used to do that together.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I did on Drag Race. Yeah. Can we go on to Lexi, love, I.

[Monet X Change]

Bob, you will start this podcast with the computer unplugging the last.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, it was. It was doing well, but you drain it. Like, when I'm by myself, it's you. When you get on my computer, it's drained the power. I sympathize with this computer. I love this look. I love this look. This look is so cool to me.

[Monet X Change]

I thought it was cool, too. I love. You know, Utica made this.

[Kim Chi]

Oh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I see that.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I think she looks really cool. I thought. I think Lexi also often also, like, these, like, skinny girls. Girl, one day, like, they can just, like, wear anything, and I'm always, like, over, like, oh, my God, that looks really fearful, fierce. I think it looks really beautiful. I think she wasted the black stones on that thing. Let me say something. Blackstones are such a waste when you like stone things. With Blackstone, it is just. You're wasting your money and you're wasting time.

[Kim Chi]

I agree. It never shows up.

[Monet X Change]

Never.

[Kim Chi]

Also like rhinestone in general, for television, unless it's encrusted, don't even bother, because it does not show up on camera.

[Monet X Change]

It doesn't show up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Here's a. Here's a debate. Me and monies to have. Kim, what do you think? I think putting stones on top of sequins does not make it pop more.

[Kim Chi]

No, absolutely not.

[Monet X Change]

For stage. For a stage. If you put. If you like. If you put stones on a sequin, like, I wouldn't do it anymore, but I would love the little accent things when I would wear this. Because on stage. Because sequins, sparkles A little different on stage with stage lights. So that's why I would do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think it does that much unless it's the mesh cutouts in it and you stone on the mesh. But if you're just putting stones on top of sequins. I used to be like, what are you doing? When it was like, it's. I mean, she doesn't do it anymore. Mo used to be like, this is the only thing, honey.

[Monet X Change]

Well, honestly, you're the only one doing it.

[Kim Chi]

When you're stoning a garment, mostly you're not necessarily stoning it for stage. You're stoning for the queen's backstage. It's like, oh, like all of this is stoned, you know, like. But most audience, I don't even, like, know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Unless you were a violence attack on pre sequined fabric.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, she was like. She was like, I only do, like, custom sequin. And I'm like, yeah, well, so not everybody wants to spend like $10,000 on like one outfit.

[Monet X Change]

You know, my girl, she is. That girl is so crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also all she does is trap herself. Now she can never again be seen in a pre sequined fabric. All she's done is ruin the herself because now she can never again wear a pre sequined fabric. And who. What designers? How much has she limited the designers that she could work with because they refused. They were like, bitch, I'm not. I'm not about to fucking do no fucking sequins on fabric.

[Monet X Change]

Let's go on to Ms. Corey King wearing this look. The hair needs to be bigger. The hair needs to be way bigger. Also. I love her in this color hair. Corey King has a. She's been wearing a lot in the season. Like, that's like that, like, brassy blonde color. That's like a little hard. And I don't think it works nicely with her skin tone. But when she wears tones like this, with this dark color, she's done it a few times. It looks so beautiful on her. It softens her a bit more, you know, I don't love this outfit. I think the hair could have been way bigger. It could have been like some on your nerves kind of hair. Like a fro or, I don't know, not a throw. But it could have just bigger. I need a bigger. Bigger.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I needed like some texture and just bigger. It was just looked like this. She had like a small little thimble koofy on her hair.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. This outfit did not do her any favors. It is very poorly made. It Is not great. This is not one of my favorite Corey King moments. And now think about it. I feel like Corey King hasn't had a lot of great Runway moments on this season. I'm thinking hard about this. Out of the four.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. The tiny little thing on her head looks a little silly proportion. It looks a little off. I wish the gloves were like, even more like upper lengths.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah. Girl, let me say something. This type of glove needs to be abolished from every drag queen's wardrobe. Your glove should never be this glove, girl. Always go full opera.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Courtney King is big.

[Monet X Change]

That is not an opera limp glove. I know exactly what size glove that is. It's the one that every girl goes at. Her drag queen should never wear that glove. It should always be opera. Or if you're doing like a little southern charm little look, maybe the wrist.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For a long time, I did not know thigh high boots were actually supposed to go to your thigh.

[Kim Chi]

We know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I had no clue, you know, because I've never. I've. I've only seen one or I've had. The only boots I have to go to my thigh are custom made boots. Boots. They just don't make it to my thigh. They just don't make it up there. You know, whenever their boots go up to their, like mid thigh, I'm like, oh, my God, that looks so good, Bob.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. You and I are the same size. I definitely pleasers make those thigh high.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Boots 4 inches taller than you.

[Monet X Change]

But in your lot of size. Our legs are the same length. You have longer. You have a longer torso than me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You just made that up. You just. You're just making up proportions. So let's go on to the judging. So at this point, we realized that. So Lydia, Sam, Star, Lexi, Lana, Jules, Harmona, and Acacia are all safe. They're all safe. And if this won the competition, girl, you should be lucky. You're safe. Like, you want to at least make it a Snatch Game, you know?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I agree. I think, and I think I had a. I had a good little idiom. A little phrase I said earlier about being safe and I forgot. Oh, fortune favors the same because you get to live and you get to fight another day for another thing. And that's good. I've never been the girl who was upset. I was safe. I'm happy. Except for All Stars 7. Actually, I was a little annoyed. I was safe a lot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's the same. People just kind of flip around. Because isn't saying supposed to be like, fortune favors the brave?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I'm saying Fortune favors the save.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Fortune favors the young. To be honest, fortune favors the rich. That's what really goes on. Okay, so Michelle says, explain the white nose to me. And then she goes, I would never try to change you, which we know is not true, Michelle. If there's one thing Michelle will do, it will be to tell you to change the thing you're doing in drag. Like, we. We all know this for a fact, right?

[Monet X Change]

Although Don tweeted, which we may talk about when we talk about later. Dawn, Don tweeted about this, and I was like, oh, actually, that's a really. A different perspective. No one has offered it yet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I guess we'll talk about it in the untapped exclusive. How do y'all feel about the white nose? I think sometimes it doesn't work. Like, in her promo look, it looks so good. There are times where I'm like. Like a few episodes ago, I was like, it really is just taking me out of the. And I think what it is, because the rest of her makeup, that episode was such a. Just standard beauty, and the nose was such a specific thing. It just. It took me out of the moment for some reason.

[Kim Chi]

I don't mind her signature because I think it's done well. I don't care whatever you do, as long as, like, you do it well. And I. She does it well, and if she likes it, that's cool. Only thing I, like, feel bad for her is because now Michelle set this on tv and these, like, fans who basically, their opinion is, like, whatever the judges say. So whenever Arietta posts any picture or they see, like, any, like, post over on social media, they're going to be like, oh, she's doing that nose again. And this is probably going to hunt her for the rest of her drag career. And I hope she continues to do nose because, you know, I think it's cool, and. And if she likes it, that's cool. But she's gonna have to deal with that because it became a thing. Now.

[Monet X Change]

I don't mind the white nose. I just don't like the wide one that goes like, that's crazy. V. Sometimes I think it works, but in the design challenge last week, when she did it, like, it was narrower, it was still white and, like, you know, clown white. But I don't always love the V thing, but, you know, it's her thing, and she probably don't like what I do with my makeup either, so I totally wasn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think all four of us have been the victim of something being said about the way we do drag on tv. And it does not matter how much you improve. It does not matter. I will always be drag it ratchet. Kim Chi will never know how to walk in hills. And Monet will always wear kitty cat wigs. It doesn't matter if. If Kim is Naomi Campbell's level walking. If Monet wears a wig bigger than lady Bunny, and if I am the most opulence high end thing. Once it's on, once it is said on tv. That is just who you are now.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I so Carson grossly said this. A tramp art quilt. And that just feels a specific. He really. He really knows a lot. Like, I'm always. I am constantly impressed by his ability to pull things out of his bag of knowledge.

[Kim Chi]

That's a common knowledge. Like, we all knew what trim quilt is. It's like when you take, like, pieces from, like, an old clothing and then repurpose it. Like, Monet knew about it.

[Monet X Change]

I didn't know about it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone knew. So they were living for on your nerve. On your nerve was like. They were, like, obsessed with on your nerves moment. And the reason why they're laughing is because we. We already recorded this. And they found out on the air. Now they're acting like they knew, but the recording got lost. And I'm gonna act like they knew what tramp art was.

[Kim Chi]

Well, I was just, like, making up facts now. That's crazy, right, Monae?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Bob. Wow. Alternative facts. You're really leaning into the Trump era.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll let you all at home judge what you think is real.

[Monet X Change]

I think Anya nerve killed it. I felt this was so well done. I was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sorry. Sorry.

[Monet X Change]

I thought that, like, watching the tv, I was like. I was literally smiling watching her performing. Cause just. She just. She was just so exuberant. And Horatia and her voice was so good, which she did not brand herself as a musician coming into this in her meet the queens or anything. So it's kind of like a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know who the real musician is.

[Monet X Change]

Acacia Forgot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And a real musician, according to Acacia Forgot has never won RuPaul's Drag Race.

[Monet X Change]

And in case you forgot, I forgot that she's a singer. I think it's a nice little welcome surprise we're getting from Anya. And I'm obsessed with her. Her talent as a singer. She said she's great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I. I think. Okay. I think the Onioner was the best by a mile. Like, it wasn't even close. This performance was so good. It was. It was amazing. What'd you Think Cam.

[Kim Chi]

It was really great. Yeah. With that being said, I gotta pay respect to our musician winners like Jinx Monsoon, Violet Chachki.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, Mistress Violet.

[Kim Chi]

Yes, Betty.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mistress Violet.

[Monet X Change]

Wait. Miss Things.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Miss Fame had a whole album.

[Monet X Change]

Miss Fame. The Fast.

[Kim Chi]

You don't know about Robert song. Robert.

[Monet X Change]

Do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Untouchable. Untouchable. Shout out. Shout out. Shout out. Honey. So I feel so bad because Corey looks so defeated during her judging. She looks like she's having a bad day. And the thing is, when you are looking bad and you're feeling bad and they're saying bad things about you, and the camera just keeps cutting back to you, and you're just like, girl, I.

[Monet X Change]

Have two of those on Drag Race. I hate it. I hate it, I hate it. But nothing's worse than being at bottom twice in a row. I was at the bottom twice in a row. And that, when I tell you, that is the lowest I felt, and I've been called a fat Jamaican bitch when I was in fourth grade on the playground, that being in the bottom twice in a row felt lower than that to me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, was it twice in a row? Was it the second one when you went home, or was it back to back?

[Monet X Change]

You won back to back? I won, but that must have felt nice. Yeah, but before I was like, oh, I'm going home. This was Pound the Alarm then, man. I feel like I went with Mayhem Miller before I did the Listen with Mayhem in Untucked, I looked the saddest, I think of him.

[Kim Chi]

That's crazy. I don't know how you do it, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Being in the bottom one Drag Race, y'all, it stinks. It really, it's. It's genuinely not fun. Even if you're not lip syncing, just being, like, told that you're not that if you're in the. If you're not in the safe group and you're clearly not in the top, you are, like, sweating. This, someone said, and it's true, when RuPaul says lip sync for your life, it feels like life and death there.

[Monet X Change]

It really does.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It must feel different going back to All Stars, though, right? It must feel lighter and easier, right?

[Monet X Change]

Well, especially when no one went home. All Stars 7. I was like, oh, whatever. We can do bad. Who cares? But, I mean, the week.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But before that, the second time, it must have felt a little. Not as bad.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, it felt not as bad. I don't remember. I was only in the bottom once in All Stars 4, and I don't remember, to be honest.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I guess because like when you're on All Stars, everyone's biggest fear has already come true. Well, not everyone, but most people there have already gone home, did the whole goodbyes and everything. A lot of people make it to the top cop, but don't get sent home per se. But a lot of people are like, well, my biggest fear has already come true, so once you live through it, it can't be that bad. Actually. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe. But it seem. People seem to take it, take it easier on all. Except for what's her name. But she had never gone home before.

[Monet X Change]

Who?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Pangina. But she had never gone home before.

[Monet X Change]

She went from being a host to just being a successant on the show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, she's one of the only. That's not true. I was about to make.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know what she want to only host what I was thinking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was the only host who was never a competitor on Drag Race. But there are some people who do it. But they are. But she is a drag queen. And the other ones are like, people who get put in drag to host the show.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, the bitch from Italy.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, my God. Meanwhile, did I ever tell you I got asked, I got an email from, like, Korea's Drag Race. And so, you know, I'm like, oh, my God, am I about to be like the RuPaul of Korea? And I'm like, like, shaking, shivering. Open up the email and then it says, we'd like you to come compete on Korea's Drag Race.

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Kim Chi]

And then they also, like, sent, like, list of, like, judges they had lined up. And these are, like, actresses that are like. Has been. That are like, is it Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Korea or a different. Different company?

[Kim Chi]

It was like a company that was like, producing or trying to produce, like, Korea's Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, but it wasn't like Drag Race Korea. Korea, yeah.

[Kim Chi]

So then it was just like, just, like, washed up, like, actresses that are. Aren't even, like, queer or, like, in the LGBTQIA + community. So I'm like, I'm not about to go on the show and then, like. Yeah. And be judged by, like, a bunch of, like, people that don't even know drag, you know?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Hell no. That sounds horrible.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, we've already done that once. We've already gone through that once. So RuPaul wastes no time telling Joella she's in the bottom off the bat. Joella, sorry, Madiri in the bottom. Then she turns regular Anya. She goes. And you win. And now she makes the other Girl sweat, right? So she's making Arrietty and not playing Jane. Corey King Sweat. And we find out that it is indeed Cory King in the bottom. And I think this bottom two is correct. What do y'all think?

[Monet X Change]

I think it's. There's. I couldn't see anyone else being in there. Corey King and Joella. This is. Honestly, this is the most accurate judging we've seen on Grace in a long time. Like, I agree with everything RuPaul done had been done said this episode.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I agree. And to no one's surprise, Corey King. First of all, every time the camera cuts back over to Joella, this, the fucking mattress is like getting floppier. And it's sending me. Because she just keeps getting sadder and sadder. And it starts up here, but then by the time it's done, like half her face, you can just see her nose. She looks. Looks like she's having the worst day ever.

[Monet X Change]

Because what I had heard is that, you know, she doesn't revealing this. So apparently she was up there holding it with her hands up the whole time. That's why she was holding it up. Criminal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would have grabbed two sticks or something.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, boss, you gotta find two sticks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, they're called brooms. Every broom has a stick attached to it.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. I don't. It's not the. It's holding something like this for.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would have held the sticks like this, put him in the corners and then you reveal.

[Monet X Change]

Then what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On stage, I. I started taking the broomsticks.

[Monet X Change]

I hit him with a just like heart.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like.

[Monet X Change]

Exactly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So to no one's shock or. Or surprise or awe, I keep want to call her Pl. Jane. Corey King sends Joella home. Um, and I want to say too, I. I think that the. The chocolate and the levers just let the girls go home. Just let them go home. And if someone's gonna stay behind, give them that fucking. That what's her name, that fucking Candy Muse. You get to stay. Give them that. That. Alyssa Edwards versus Tatiana. You get to stay. Give them that. Roxy Andrews versus Alyssa Evers. You get to stay. Like, just. Just make it like fun. Like I've just decided but. But like let these girls leave.

[Monet X Change]

That's easy for you to say, Bob, knowing that you have a moment to say. I think I would hold onto that. Like, that I would have liked the opportunity to know that maybe I could have done a last ditch thing for me to say.

[Kim Chi]

Okay, so this is like my thought when I was watching this. After the girls get eliminated, how long do they Wait for Michelle to go change into the bathing suit and go up there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was thinking about that too, because her hair is different. They have to put those levers on the stage.

[Kim Chi]

And Michelle's not someone that can just like, all right, guys, I'm ready to go. You know, like, she's. She's gonna make sure she looks right. You know, before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, like, I was. I was thinking about it too. What is the. What. How long does it take to reset?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, that's gonna happen when they go to untucked. I think it happens when they go to untucked, but then they're.

[Kim Chi]

But isn't Michelle, like, watching the lip sync, though, like, in a different outfit?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah.

[Kim Chi]

So then after the lip sync, then she's, like, changed and then up on that little.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, you're right. You' you're right, you're right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's kind of gaggy. But on her way out the door, she says, at least I didn't. At least I didn't die a local girl.

[Monet X Change]

And the local girls did not like that girl. Twitter was ablaze this week. Joel had to issue an apology.

[Kim Chi]

I can't believe you still use Twitter. That's crazy.

[Monet X Change]

I know. I don't use Twitter.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like when I. Well, that's not true. We can show the receipts. I feel like, like, Monet, your tweets are literally there. People can go look right now.

[Monet X Change]

Where. No, they're not, because they're gone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, sure. I'll be reposting them before you delete your account tonight.

[Monet X Change]

So people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So people can't see you post dated this. Look at when they grabbing her phone. What? I. When I was a local girl, I don't remember being that hurt by this.

[Kim Chi]

I was not. But also, like, I've been doing drag for so little. But also there are, like, queens that's been doing drag for, like, 20 years that's been, like, holding up their, like, local scene. Like, usually gets, like, really offended by it. Have you ever done a gig where you, like, go to a show and this queen has been, like, a showrunner there for, like, 30 years, and then she acts like she doesn't know who you are and, like, what was your name? What season were you on?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I would say there was a queen, he's working bebop, who'd be like, I never watched the show.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know who you are.

[Kim Chi]

And then I give it up for, like, the. The funniest comedian of season eight. Give it up for Bob the Drag Queen. It's like, oh, so you know who we are, Literally.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then. And then on the way out the door, she's. She's like, I love. I love when you yelled at Derrick Barry.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, she's crazy. Who do you think? Who do you think? Who do you think is winning season 17? Kim?

[Kim Chi]

It's really too soon to tell for me, but I really like Arietti. You know, I know. I don't know if that's, like, a grave yet controversial opinion, but I think. I think. I think she's cool. I like. I like Lexi love. Love.

[Monet X Change]

I like Lexi love, too. I like her vibe. I. I would say it's between Lexi and Susie for me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Pick one. Who's winning?

[Kim Chi]

Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

Winning. I'm gonna say Lexi love.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm gonna say Susie Toot for the win. Work Suzanne Toot. All right, y'all, thank you so much for joining us. Kimchi. Where can they find you? How can we find out what's the latest thing with kimchi chic beauty?

[Kim Chi]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Listen, we are supporting b pock companies. Not that any of you bought our makeup, but please go buy kimchi makeup. Someone should survive.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, Please buy fomobile beauty.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, at this point.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you, Kim, we love you. Thank you for coming into the show.