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I started Ornod in 2013 and we make bike apparel. The best part of Shopify for me is our ability to run the business as essentially non technical people. We're able to admin everything on the back end, front end, and sell things online easily. If Shopify were a bike accessory, I think it would actually be the bicycle. It's the thing that you do the thing on. We run the business on Shopify. So start your free trial on shopify.com. my name is Shannon Maldonado. I'm the founder of Yaoi, a gift shop from the lens of artists and handmade objects. I chose Shopify because when I was testing other platforms, it was definitely one of the most user friendly. It was important to me to think about where we would be in the future. All of the tools for reading your sales, like planning inventory, they're just right there on your dashboard. For anyone starting a small business, the biggest thing I can tell you, it doesn't have to be perfect. Shopify can help you build upon it. Start your free trial on shopify.com. It's Beyonce. 1, 2, 3, 4.
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Oh, from the Cowboy Carter album.
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Yeah. And we. And we gonna make it a do. We're do. Yeah, yeah.
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You know, I'm not super familiar with, with, with the Cowboy Carter album, but we are not gonna go into a deep, long conversation about Cowboy Carter because we are on a mission today. Yes. That's right, y'.
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All.
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We are back for Swing Watchery. It is officially RuPaul's Drag Race. Season 17 has kicked off. I will say this, by the way. I'm grab. I'm going for my notes, which is why I'm looking down, y'.
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All.
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I realize now why they don't ask me back.
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Damn. Can I say. Can I talk? Nigga, you want to. You want to talk on the first time it's on the podcast.
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Can I say something? Well, you.
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You.
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You went to your whole Beyonce Dia tribe. I let you talk. You talked about Beyonce.
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Yeah. You just started going off and you
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told me, can I jump in time to talk about Beyonce? Anyway, Chillin's episode.
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We are back for season 17 of Drag Race.
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You're gonna say everything I just said. You're gonna use your time to say everything I already said. Yeah.
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In my way. And we're so excited. Sleeping Watch 3 has become, in my opinion, and I think they're putting on many others. It has become a staple Drag Race review series in the Zeitgeist Girls. Watch this.
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Hey, I can see y' all for sure. This is where all the fights happen. For sure.
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For sure. You think Ray Shay's against.
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In fights?
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Do they get into fights or is it just us?
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I mean, probably. I mean, we. I don't really know what's going on over there, so they probably do. We just don't know about it. But they probably do though, ours, so.
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So do ours feel louder to us because. Because we're involved us.
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But I mean, they might, they might be. They might be throwing down hardcore. I. I have no clue. Be honest. I don't watch Race Chaser. I don't listen to Race Chaser, so I don't know.
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Also, the day of Race Chaser, they should think. They should think about that. I just heard it. I just said in my mouth, I just heard it. Race Chaser.
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Yeah. Do you know why they call it Race Racer?
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I know why.
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Yeah.
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Like guys who want to fuck Drag Race girls. Yes.
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But also, we have to talk about this episode. This is not about Race Chase, not about Beyonce. This is about RuPaul's Drag Race. Season 17, episode 1. I now see why they don't call me back to do Drag Race, though, because I would not have done this. I would not have done this.
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You not have done what?
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This pie scene. The pie scene.
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Oh, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't. I would, I would. That's not something I would sign up for. And they didn't. You know what? They didn't ask me sign up. So now I see why I never
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get called to do Drag Race stuff. Because that does not seem.
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No, last season you were there, but you were there to be the roast master, which is nice. Right? I went back to be it like
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a little three second thing.
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Yeah. I mean, but it was, you know, you were held in high regard. You were being that girl. You know what I mean? You were honored for your talent. Huh.
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And you did the season 10 thing. I know, but my thing. Those are what, years apart.
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I was snatched Game of Love. And that was nice. You know, I was a. I was, I was, I was a snatchler. Um, but yeah, being. Being thrown with pies with and messing up your. Your makeup and your lashes and your hair. No, Even though maybe. I'm sure Drag Race probably paid for it. If, if, if you were messing up girl stuff, I'm sure they compensated them for it. But still, I would be like, no, it's not.
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Why are you so sure of that?
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Um, because I. Because I think at this point, Trinity, I know Trinity did not go up there and get pied in the face and did not get compensated for it in some way. I know she didn't.
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You don' assuming that.
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But I am my.
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We can call her and find out.
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I'm about to call. What time is it over there in Florida?
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Later than she's three. It's noon late. Later than it is here. We're. We are. Unless you're in Hawaii, there's nowhere in America you can be that makes earlier than here. Forwarded to an automatic voice message system. Damn. She don't like you no more. She don't like you no more, Honey, her drag daughter's on drag. Her drag granddaughter's on Drag Race now. She don't need you no more.
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You like her drag daughter? I mean her grand. Her great great granddaughter.
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She did not need you anymore, honey. You are old news now. She has someone on the show currently on a current season. Not from seven season. You're from seven seasons ago, Monet. You're an old dusty drag queen from seven seasons ago.
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That's the bitch. That was 11, you dusty fucking fossilized bitch.
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Seven.
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Ew.
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You're 11. You bought you literally four more than me.
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You're 11. I mean two. You're. You're nine. You were nine seasons ago. Whatever the fuck you were. You were in public school.
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They keep it. So let's go on. There's something funny to me about RuPaul turning around wearing that Sleep no More mask.
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They kind of painted it or something.
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But I did enjoy, I did enjoy this giant, this heat little Pound Cake. I thought it was actually very camp. It was very, very funny.
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Yeah. And yeah, I mean, I mean, I guess the draggers knew when Squid Game was premiering. Obviously. It's all lined up perfectly. Squid Game duly just came out last week into Squirrel Games. But, yeah, I thought it was really dope. It was. I, I, I thought it was a cute challenge, but I thought, isn't it weird that none of the season 17 girls got pied?
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The season one girls.
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None of the season 17 girls got pied.
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Maybe it was set up.
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You think?
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I think so. So you're saying Squid Game is set up. She said so. You said by treasure to property, that means the Beast games are set up.
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And it's all also Lil Pouncake being the first one to be pied. Is that. That is forever going to be her. Her. Her lot to bear. The first to get eliminated, first to get pied, first to get everything.
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It was Pork Chop. Not. You thought her little pound cake.
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I mean Pork Chop. Yeah, sorry.
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Yeah, I think it was. It was. I think that's the bit.
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I know. I get it. I. Thank you, Bob.
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I know.
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Just really quick, I'm gonna say this. So we had a secret Santa in my house. I don't even talk about this. And then Secret Santa. This is washery. No, I need to say this. And then, so secret Santa in my house, Jacob brought this penis holder thing as a Secret Santa gift. And I got it. I got to open it. And Bob stole it from me. He knew that I really wanted this penis pencil holder, and he sold it for me after I've given Bob so much of my lifetime and energy, and he did that to me. So I'm going to take that into 2025. That is an omen for 2025. Know that. Continue.
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I don't care. Also, the other part that's camp is that it was supposed to be selling from your house that you, you know, had around for a while, but that you were willing to part with and wanted to give to a secret Santa. So I was like, that's fine. I don't really need this. I can give this to somebody else. And now it's back in our house. You know what? And I don't care. And I'll do it again. Bop, bop, bop. Let's go on to these queens. So the first queen of walking is Lexi Love. Jacob, you have. Where's Lexi? Oh, there she is.
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She's the first one. Lexi Love. She says, why y' all gagging? I haven't even stepped on any. On any necks yet.
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So let me say this real quick before we get started, because of that Squirrel Games thing in the beginning, I feel like we had very little time with the queens after they walked in, so I don't have a ton of notes for everyone. That being said, I think we should critique these looks. I feel like it's meant to be posted. As our elder queer, and she's 32 or 34, which is wild to me. I mean, that is older than I was on Drag Race, but it seems wild. But she is obviously younger than I am right now. I do like this look. I think this look is really cute. I don't love the hair, but I do like pretty much the rest of the look. I love.
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I think that. I think. But also. But just in drag, she's an elder, right? She's been doing drag for 13, 14 years. So, like, that is a long time to do drag. When. When you were in Drag Race, how long had you been doing drag?
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Seven or eight years.
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So, yeah. So she's almost. She's almost doubled the amount of time that you've done drag. So she definitely probably knows her way around a lot of drag secrets. Hacks, beeps, bops, boops. And this is. I think this entrance look is proof of that. She looks really beautiful. Her. The body looks right. I think her makeup and hair look beautiful. I love this Victoria's Secret moment. I think she looks great.
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Yeah. She said she's avant stupid, and I said, oh, God, we got another dumb bitch. I think we do. We have another stupid, stupid, dumb season. Is this cast full of dumb idiots too? We're gonna find out soon. But we got it. We got it. We got a stupid girl on our hands here. Self proclaim. That's her. Avant stupid, with two O's, like, boobs. Then we have Joella, y'. All. I can't pronounce this, but I'm gonna try. Dajiho, Dajaho. Welcome to the Joella dynasty. And then she hits the gong. I do love this look. I love how she walked in with the gong over her head. I thought it was actually placed there. I thought it was, like, supposed to stay there. And by the way, this. What she said is manner in Chinese reading, say like, hello, everyone, or how's everyone's day? But I. The only thing, only. Only critique I have with this look is that as this. As the scene progresses, her wig is doing the childhood house slide.
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I didn't notice that.
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Her wig is here. It's here, it's here, it's here, it's here, it's here. Her wig is moving all around, all around.
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As a girl on season 10, y', all, I was sweating on my season. I was nervous. I was excited. So my wig was looking crazy a little bit. So those first day jitters are a lot. So I get that. I, you know, I didn't at first watch, I didn't love this look. Now I like it a little more. And I think in context of all the looks we see Joella do this episode, this is definitely her shining moment of the episode, if that makes any sense. But I do think that I was confused. What was around her wrist. Is this supposed to be part of the hair? I don't understand what this braided was.
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He used it to hit the gong. I mean, it might be part of this costume in general or part of this traditional garb in general, but she used the thing at the end of it to hit the gong.
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Oh, got it. Yeah. So Joella, work. Honestly, the more and more I see Joella and just see her personality online now and see how she interacts with the girls. I'm kind of becoming obsessed with Joella.
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I think that Valentina ushered in this wave of being like, you really have to represent your culture super, super hardcore on Drag Race. And I think a lot of people connect to that. And a lot of folks, especially from, like, people of color, marginalized communities, specifically those windows communities, refer to their race or their ethnicity. They really want people to see them represent their ethnicity on Drag Race. And I do love that. And she looks great, by the way.
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Let's go on to Ms. Corey King.
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And also, I want to point out that clearly, clearly we have had, you know, Chinese drag queens on Drag Race before. Yohamasaki has obviously famously walked in. So I'm not saying that Joel is the first Chinese queen ever do this. I just want to give. And Yuha probably wasn't the first Chinese queen. I just know Yuha is Chinese and she came in in a very traditional Chinese garb is all I'm saying.
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Yeah. Let's go on to Ms. Corey King. She walks in and she has Good Morning Kingdom, which is obviously a play on her name, Corey King. And I think in even, I'm just like, even better than plain Jane. Corey King's body is so right. Like, I just love how thick and voluptuous her fucking thighs and ass are. And also in proportion, you know, with her. With her shoulders and that teeny eeny beanie, tiny itty waist. I think Corey's body is so hot, so sexy.
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I can't tell if Corey King is short or if she's tall. I literally cannot tell because in this picture, she looks like she is one foot tall.
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Like she. Like she could be Jax.
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Yeah. But in every other photo, she looks like she's 99,000ft tall. I have no clue how tall this woman is. I do like this. Is this supposed to be like a Barbie inspired look?
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I think it's like. It's like Drag Race does Barbie. It's because it's that signature Barbie pattern. Yeah, the black and white.
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Yeah. And also, Corey King has a she. I don't know if she's bald or not, but if she is, why is her wig always so low?
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Yeah, her wig used to be pushed.
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Your wig can be anywhere. Why is her wig always, like, right here?
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I mean, Patty. Patty and Ty make fun of me. I. I like. I like a three head when I'm in drag. I put my wig down too. I don't like having a lot of space So I get it. But I think hers is a little too far down. It needs to go. It can go up, like, half an inch and it'll be good.
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I mean, I don't think your wigs are that low. I've never been like, oh, my God, this is so low. I've never felt like your. Your wig was, like, absurdly low or anything, but I do feel that about this wig. I feel like this wig is just too low, in my opinion.
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It's too low.
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Yeah.
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But I love that she matched her shoes to this. In this picture, I'm noticing she had, like, a. Listen, I love a matching panty. She's like, no, I'm not. I'm not going to throw some raggedy black panties. I'm going to match my panties to my dress. That's the extra mile that I. That I appreciate in a bitch. Yeah, it's cute.
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I mean, I think she looks really good. I think that. Yeah, she looks great. She looks fantastic. I think. I just. I just. This wig does drive me a little bit crazy. Besides the wig driving me crazy, I think she looks pretty. Pretty damn good. So let's go on to Lydia Butthole Collins. I like this. Lydia Butthole Collins. I love this name.
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Let me turn you. That was really sorry, listeners, for that. That's a lot.
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Butthole. I. I feel like she said, did someone say my name three times.
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Mm.
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Which is obviously a reference to Beetlejuice. And I don't understand. What is Beetlejuice about this?
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Look?
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I mean, I get that her name is Lydia, like Lydia Deetz, right?
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Oh, maybe.
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Oh.
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Oh, I didn't even put that. I missed that part. Right. Lydia Dietz is Christina Ricci. No, the lady.
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Winona Ryder.
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Winona Ryder's character.
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Yes.
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Right, right, right, right. Yeah.
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But other than, like, maybe she's like a Tim Burton Stan or something.
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Maybe.
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But this outfit is not. She's not dressed like Beetlejuice because. Okay, so Beetlejuice is. Beetlejuice is wearing stripes, but they're black and white. This is black and gray with white lines outside on the white stripes surrounding the black stripe. And then also, Beetlejuice's stripes are vertical. Hers are almost all horizontal. And. And then I don't get. I don't get it. I don't get how this is supposed to be Beetlejuice. Besides her name being Lydia and there being stripes.
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I don't think it's on the nose. I don't think she's trying to, like, be. She's not. She's not doing she's not doing a fucking Beetlejuice impersonation. It's like just a little. A little nod to a little reference of Beetlejuice, I think with the black and white stripes on her legs.
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They're not black and white stripes. They're black and gray stripes.
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The ones on her legs are black and white, babe. And also Bob is like, if she's not. It's not as green hair. If she's not Michael Keaton, if she's not throwing up with green fucking, she's not Beetlejuice. She's just doing a reference.
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This is like being like, I'm. Because I'm wearing polka dots. I'm now Minnie Mouse because I did a pot. No, no, no. Minnie Mouse wears polka dots and I wore polka dots. So this is obviously a Minnie Mouse reference because. Just because the pattern, like. No, I don't like. If it was. If it was. If she was wearing black and white stripes, I would be chill about it. But they're not even, you know, Layla McQueen's interest outfit was more Beetlejuice than this.
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I would agree with that. I would agree with that. And I don't.
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And I don't like the look.
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Either Layla's or this one.
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This one. Do you like this look?
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Um, you know, I don't know. Like, I don't like it, but I do like it.
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I do like the.
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I do like the hodgepodge, like, so much going on. Like, I love the. The. What's the word? Not. What's not the opposite. Minimalist. I love the maximalist aspect of this. Like. Cause it has like this like, blazer on it with. She's like embellishing with these stones and these chains and she has like the tinsel on it. And like just having this jacket, I. I hate it, but I kind of like it. It's messy, but I kind of like it.
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Then you should wear it since you love them.
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Let's go on to Arrietty, who is from Seattle, daughter of Irene Dubois who went home first on her season. And she's. She's giving me one of those Alien Seattle girlies. Alien Seattle bitch. This hair is fucking dope. This hair is so fucking dope. I would wear this hair. It's so cool. It's like anime. It's like Goku meets, like fucking Naruto. Which means.
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Are there a lot of Alien Seattle girls?
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I mean, there's Irene the alien.
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Is the way you said one of those Alien Seattle girls as if it was like a lot of Alien Seattle girls.
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No, there might be a lot of them. I know too. Arietti and Irene. And there's also Cynthia.
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Cynthia who?
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He looks like Cynthia Dragg. Something like that.
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She does alien drag too?
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Yeah, I believe so.
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Oh. I always think of campy redheads or theatery, even though Ben's not a redhead. But like that whole like. Yeah, I love this look. I think she looks absolutely amazing. I love everything about this look. I love that she walks and goes.
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Hi.
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I. I thought this entrance was just great. From. From the look to the entrance. I have no notes. I think she looks really, really cool. She's very conceptual.
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She said this nose highlight is gonna be really tough for me to get into. I just. I mean. And I don't think it's bad. I'm not knocking this thing. I think she is. Her signature is her thing. That's cool for her. But it's gonna take me a minute to kind of get used to it. Cause I don't think. But it may be one of those things. Like over the time it's gonna. I'm really. I'm fall in love with it. And I'm gonna hate Tim Twitch when she doesn't have it. I know. Who's gonna hate to see it all the time. I can already. I. There's no way. Michelle is not gonna be like, girl, we've seen the highlight. What?
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She already mentioned that she doesn't like it. She's already mentioned that she doesn't like it. I mean, and she looks like one of the creatures from Avatar.
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Avatar? Like the Na' Vi or Avatar the Last Airbender or the Blue People?
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I don't know. Which one do you think? Which one does she look like?
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I mean, Avatar the Last Eminem has weird. Has interesting characters like this. Yes. I mean, not exactly like this, but they have interesting characters.
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What about the other one? Do they have anything kind of like this
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with spikes and leather?
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The nose contour. When they were talking about the nose contour.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They had that in there. Yeah. You know what? Interesting.
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We'll be in public and I'll be like, oh, my God, look at that guy. He's so tall. Monet will look into the group of them. She'll go, which one? I'll be like, the tall one. Monet. Not sure we've had this exact. I go, the tall. It'll be like one who's like seven feet and everyone else is five. Monet will literally say, which one? I'm like, monet, the tall one. The tall one.
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Bitch, that's a diaper. You such an over exaggerator.
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That has literally happened before. Which one, bitch? Anyway, I like this look a lot. Let's go on to Jules Sparkles, which I just want to say again, Jewel.
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It's a single Jewel. Jewel.
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Her name is Jewels Sparkles.
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I don't think that's. Ryan.
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It's written here wrong. Her name is Jules Sparkles and I do not. And. And I remember this because of how much I hate her name. Yeah, sorry. She on her Instagram, her name is Jewel Sparkles. I apologize.
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Well, I'm going by what Jacob said. Jacob. No, I'm not apologizing. Tell Jacob to apologize.
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I'm sorry. I. I should have added that. I would like to apologize to our listener.
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Spreading misinformation.
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Don't let Monet believe.
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Thank you, Jacob. Thank you so much.
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But anyway, like I said before a thousand times, I do not like this name. Her name should be Jewel Sparkles. Jewels Sparkles makes me crazy. I hate that.
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That is a lot of emotion for.
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For.
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For that Roberta.
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It doesn't make sense. The name doesn't make sense. That being said, she goes, don't worry, I'm not just a bitch. I'm that.
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Love that fucking great entrance line. I love that line.
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And she looks like. She looks like spice dressed up like sugar
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because of the dark end of the.
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Doesn't she look like spice dressed up like sugar.
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I can see that. I can see that. I think this is a great entrance look. It is. I mean, she clearly is a big Ariana Grande. Stan on her social media, blah, blah, blah, blah. So she's kind of doing a nod to Ariana Grande, which on your entrance look to drag. I guess your first season is not that egregious. Maybe on All Stars if you were like, still referencing someone else. Like, girl. Wait, no, you're a whole reference.
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But is this an Ariana look?
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I mean, it's a high pony.
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This.
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I mean, this says Ariana Grande to me. You don't think so?
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I just didn't know if it was like a recreation. I don't know if it was.
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I think it's a recreation. I think it's in the world of Ariana for sure.
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No, it definitely has Ariana ness to it for sure. I just didn't know if it was a recreation or not.
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Those. These shoes are cool. Which they look made like. They look like she. She got not made, but she like wrapped the shoe and she had covered. So this looks. I love that she made this custom shoe. I love that she said that.
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She is just. She has one brain cell, so. Oh, shit. We got another dumb bitch. Oh, God. Dumb bitches are falling from the ceiling. We got dumb bitches all over one brain cell over here.
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Also, she sounds like a woman. If I was to close my eyes and listen to, I would think this was a sigil and a woman just walking around the workroom. I don't think we had a bio queen this season, girl.
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That was me with on your nerve. I was like, on your nerve is a cisgender woman. But yeah, I. Oh, she also said, I don't even think I'm just another look queen. Like, girl, I don't know if I qualify you as a look queen. Like, you're pretty, but you're not a look queen. Arietta is a look queen.
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Lucky star is the look queen.
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Lucky star is the look queen.
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Yeah. I wouldn't categorize as a look. Also, I love her earrings. I love, love, love. And in this era of my drag, I'm into a custom or not. Just like a airing. I love a statement airing these days.
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Let's go on to Lana Jarret.
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Great name.
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That's the motherfucking drag name, Jules.
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Jesus Christ.
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Good. Gooda morning. Because her cat's name is Gouda Morning. Gouda Morning. Dreamers.
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Oh, girl. She. She said dreamers. As a girl, in this political climate, I mean, go off, girl.
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She's saying Jeremias. Like, Jeray, I get.
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I know what she's saying, but I'm like, in this political climate, she would have. That's right. To solidarity with the dreamers. As you should.
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She's acknowledging the dreamers.
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I love them.
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This queen is so hot. I love. I will say the only thing I'll say about her is like, my God, her eyebrows are gigantic.
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It's giving Naomi Smalls eyebrows season eight.
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Like, she has gigantic eyebrows. And I do want to say to everyone out there who was talking about her cliffhangers, sometimes even if the shoe is the right size, when you're wearing open toe shoes, your feet just keep slide forward, sliding forward. Cause you're standing like this. They're not. They're not flip flops, y'.
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All.
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We're not standing like this. We're standing like this. So when you're whole body weight, if. If you stand long enough, your toes just kind of creep over the edge. Now, that being said, these look like
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they are a hair too small.
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Yeah. That being said, that being said, these do look too small. Now that we. Now that we've got that out of the way, these shoes are too small.
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But like. Yeah, because look at her left foot. Like, it's. The whole thing is like her heel is where it should be, but her toes are just a little bit over the edge.
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Yeah. Yeah. So. So y'. All. Y' all ate, y'. All. So she. She deserved that smoke.
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She did. And I say on a. On a chocolate diva. I love, love, love a copperish red and yellow combo. Delicious. She looks delicious. She looks sexy. She looks gorgeous.
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Let's move on to Sam Star. While I've heard y' all were looking for America's next drag superstar, I hate that opening line, girl.
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And also when the Daughters of the Confederacy is happening here, she.
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She thought she was on the season with the Jada 1 promo picture or some.
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I know season 12.
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That was very impressive that you knew. That's off the top of your head. Yeah, well, you know, Evie won season what?
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Evie won season 11. Simone 13.
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Did you really know all the. Are you guessing? Cause I wouldn't even know.
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I'm guessing. No, I'm guessing. I know. I know those. I know those. Um, yeah, so in the pitstop. I did say that. Willow pillow. Who? Willow Pill, 14.
B
Wow. Very impressive.
A
Um, I. When I was talking about this look, I can acknowledge this looks like a very well made garment. And it is, obviously, it looks amazing on her. It is good I just don't. I'm not an Americana kind of girl. I won't think besides our presidential palette, when Bob and I did that video when we were in red, white, and blue to promote our palette, that's one thing. I would just never. I would never wear something like this. I'm not saying it's ugly, just not for me. And it's not something that I appreciate but go off good for her. She looks great in it.
B
Do you like Beyonce's Americana?
A
Beyonce's Americana and what, Cowboy Carter?
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah, I did love that. That was fierce. But again, I wouldn't wear that. I would never wear.
B
We're not asking if you wear. We're asking if you like it.
A
No, I, I, I can acknowledge it looks good on her. It's fierce and sexy. I don't like that.
B
We're not asking if you would wear. We're asking if you like it, Nick.
A
I just said I don't like it. Do you need me to say I'm French?
B
You don't like Beyonce's Cavalcardo look?
A
No, I do not like the Americana. No, I think it's a fierce look. It's not for me.
B
So do you like it or no, we're not talking about for you, bitch. Do you like it or not? Do you like Americana or do you not like Americana?
A
I love.
B
I love. I love America.
A
Ferrara.
B
So do you like Beyonce's look or no?
A
Americana sounded like we have to look for funsy.
B
What did you just perform? You are so flim. Flim. What the fuck? What the fuck is that? What the fuck is that?
A
What is. What is. What is this?
B
This is when they got that Arrietty nose contour.
A
No, I don't. My nose contour looks normal. What are you talking about?
B
Okay, let's move on. Get this off the fuck. What is that? Let's move on. Now that we've caught Monet. It's from your world of wonder show. Monet's herstory exchange. You have a show called Monet? How did I miss this whole chapter of your life, Girl?
A
I don't even remember what this was. This was like. It was right after season 10.
B
Let's move on to on your nerve. On your nerve. This, baby. She goes, well, it do take nerve. And I agree, because this look is not good.
A
Do take nerve to wear this fucking hideous outfit, baby.
B
I'm sorry. Because on your nerve seems sweet, but there is so much wrong with what's happening on screen right now. But it.
A
I know.
B
There is so much There is so
A
much going on, and I love her energy, too. And I loved. I love her face, and I like her, you know, her hair and her face. But this outfit was such a wild choice to enter the work group on your first season, any season.
B
And what I'm realizing is I think there must have been a big chunk of time between the first episode and the premiere and the promo, because the promo is, like, legit. One of the best looks I've ever seen on the. Like, I've never seen a. I've never seen a selection of queens from their original season look as good in their promo as these girls did. And now we have how they look when they walked in. And a lot of these girls had it glued up. A lot of these girls had glued up.
A
I say that, yeah, she must like the 70s. I like the 70s. But there was a way to do this, and it'd be like drag and make it look cool, but it just was not. She looks like. She looks like she was in the Jackson's American Dream movie.
B
I do not like this look.
A
I do not like it.
B
Let's go on to Susie Toot.
A
This is a face that should. I hate how her makeup looks. I've never. I don't think I've hated makeup on someone more than this girl.
B
I hate, hate, hate.
A
Oh, tiny.
B
You know, there were several moments where Susie Toots face would cross the screen and I'd be like, ugh.
A
Jump, scare.
B
Like, what is. What is happening? But she's going for a very stylized thing, right? She wants to be from the 20s. She wants to be in the prohibition era. She wants to be one of those gals. And you know what? Okay, there's a few things. One, she has the opposite of what Corey King has, which is this girl has a six head. She is pushing her hairline very, very, very far back. And she could bring it forward a little bit.
A
That's what I think. As a drag queen, when you can choose any hairline you want, why the fuck would you choose that?
B
I mean, because it works for some queens, that's why. But they think it works for them. Like, for example, RuPaul's hairline is really far back. And for some reason, look at pictures of RuPaul. RuPaul's hairline is all the way back. Look at a picture of RuPaul right now. Literally any picture. Just type in RuPaul's name. You will gag at how far back her wig is. You're going to be like, oh, my
A
God, the promo for this Season and
B
it's pretty far back, girl. And every single picture of RuPaul, her wig is far back. But for some reason it just works for her. It does not work for everyone.
A
Yeah, Jay, can you put the promo of the season 17? RuPaul's hairline is. You're right. RuPaul's hairline is pretty far back in his promo.
B
But it, but for some reason it. It just works for her.
A
Well, Susie girl, this face is. Oh, if we have to look at this all season, I will literally unlock myself. But I will say the outfit is brilliant. I love this outfit. The black and white is gorgeous. I love that she put the. She added little bows to the shoes, the opera length gloves. This outfit is. I would wear this outfit. It's very cute. But this fucking makeup and this fucking wig trash.
B
It is a cute outfit. Does she have wear padding or does she have thick legs?
A
She is. I'm sure it's a little padding.
B
How about sick of this girl got some thick ass legs also out of drag.
A
She looks like Alana Glaser a little bit.
B
No, this outfit is cute. I do like this look.
A
I love this look.
B
Let's go on to Harmona Lisa. Hello, loyal subjects. It is I, Harmona Lisa at your service. Wow, that sounded annoying. Well, that was annoying. I do not like this look. I do not like.
A
Well, why does she look like she's in grayscale? Is that just. Just how wild the camera. The picture came out wild. But this bitch looks like. Either she's very pale or she's like almost gray. I don't.
B
I don't like this outfit. I don't like the hair. I don't like this. I'm not interested. I'm not. None of this speaks. Also, I'm gagging when the girl said so. She didn't watch your tape.
A
I know also how she talks about how she got hand selected by RuPaul at his book tour, but she don't know they asked her questions about the book. She don't know a single thing about this book. This bitch. This bitch scammed RuPaul to get on the show and didn't even have the nerve to read a paragraph of his book. That's shady.
B
To quote Corey king, you followed RuPaul with a flash drive and begged.
A
How do you feel about her being hand selected by RuPaul?
B
I think that's really. I mean, that's really. That seems really cool. I mean, good for her. That sounds that sound like it'd be really exciting if that happened for you, bitch.
A
When Raven said she looked like fucking, fucking sadness in her confessionals, it sent me over the edge.
B
Raven? Who's Raven?
A
Raven, you haven't seen this, Mom.
B
Raven did the Pit Stop with Monet for this episode. Oh, no, I have not. I have not watched the Pit Stop.
A
And she said that in her confessional, Hormonalisa looks like sadness in pastel pink from inside out.
B
She does look like sadness. She does like sadness.
A
She does.
B
Let's go on to Crystal Envy.
A
So Crystal Envy gives me. You know, she's from New Jersey, but her drag feels very like Cameron Michaels Southern type drag. Like, a lot of opulence, a lot going on. Like, she has these crystal bow shoes, the big fucking ostrich feather skirt. I hate the front skirt. Like, the length of it makes her look so short. She looks so tiny.
B
She said, Yeah, I envy.
A
Me, too.
B
I'm not really sure that I understand what the Jersey drag scene is. I'm not saying Jersey drag doesn't have an identity. I'm just saying I don't particularly understand the identity of Jersey Dragon, because whenever I see a queen from Jersey, they always are so. They're so different. Like, there. There doesn't seem to be a through line with. With Jersey drag. Cause I know there isn't a huge Jersey drag scene, though. Like, the Jersey drag scene is not very big. A lot of folks from Jersey go to Philly, they go to New York City, they. They even go over to Pennsylvania to do drag.
A
Philadelphia is in Pennsylvania.
B
I mean, no, Jersey. Yeah. Other parts of Pennsylvania, like, probably Pittsburgh or maybe. I don't know. I mean, no one really goes to Pittsburgh. If you're from. If, like, Pittsburgh is so far. Pittsburgh is so far away from everything else in. On the. On the east that it's kind of wild.
A
But I think her face is very beautiful. And I do like this thing. I just hate. Like, that should have just been. It should have been a gown. I don't understand why she just threw. She just. It should have been a gown with a slit. Like, why are you giving us this little miniskirt in the front? I thought that was. I thought that was such a weird choice.
B
Yeah. I don't need all this feathers and tulle on the back. I would have. I would have preferred that this, whatever is going on in the bodice, continue to the floor without the feathers and leave this training thing off. That's what I would have preferred.
A
Yeah. And I like her entrance line. Yeah, I envy.
B
Me, too.
A
I think that's A good entrance line.
B
I like, I think it's good. I'm not here to play, I'm here to fight. I said, okay, let's see.
A
Oh, she said that.
B
That's what she said. I'm not here to play, I'm here to fight. I said, all right, Ms. Thing, work. Let's move on to Acacia. Forgot this. She said, totally tubular.
A
She loves the 80s. This is an 80s queen.
B
I do not like what I'm looking at.
A
You know, I didn't. But seeing it here, I don't hate it as much. Like, I do think this, it is very 80s. This is a very. From the hair to the fucking blush to the colors and, like, and the exaggerated sleeve, this feels very 80s. And seeing it in this, like, I honestly, I'm not doing a bit. I honestly don't hate it. I, I think it, I like it. I think, I think with different hair, I think it would have been cooler, but I, I, I don't hate this outfit.
B
I also don't see how a bolo tie goes with what she's wearing at all. In out of drag, she looks like she's like 25 in drag. She legit looks 43.
A
Jesus Christ.
B
Like, I don't know. She said she wants to be the next big thing in country music. Trixie found dead.
A
Did you see? She's talking about you laughing at her video and Entertainment Weekly. The way she said, she was like, it was nice. She was like. She's like, no, I saw that. She's actually like, I didn't watch it. People sent it to me. She was like, but that was. She basically said, that was my old music. My new music is really good.
B
Oh, gang, gang. I can't wait to catch the new stuff.
A
Yeah, let's go on to Miss Lucky Stars. Lucky Stars walks in and says, oh, daddy, I think I stained, I think I stained the sheets. I think that's funny. This is an explosion, a confection of color and texture. And I think this is a really, really, really cool look. I don't know if she's supposed to be a melted candle or I don't know what she's supposed to be. What is she?
B
She seems like Lumiere. Only thing I don't like is that the pain stops at her ankles. Besides that, I. Her, the pain stopping her ankles really gave me fever, but besides that, I love this look.
A
Yeah, it was really cool. I, I can be honest when I see girls like her and wanting to do this, my brain can't even conceptualize how this Is I. Obviously. I know they adhering paper and stuff to their face, but I need to, like, see how it's done because I'm such a sweaty girl. I don't know how the paper doesn't, like, wet and slide off. Even using Pros Aide or something.
B
It was weird to me that they decided to do the. I mean, we'll get there in a second. So then RuPaul enters the workroom. Lana Jaray has won the first challenge they didn't realize was a challenge. They were doing a photo shoot during that squirrel game challenge. And Lana wins $2,500. And then we found out the queens who. Then they find out that they're gonna be split into two groups. Two queens. Two groups of queens will be performing in a talent show. Drag Race got Talon, and they have to decide who's doing it.
A
Yeah. Which I think is cool. Ru is giving them enough rope to hang themselves. Let them choose the order. Whatever. Whatever. It's giving them more autonomy. So you're basically. So you can choose. Be in charge of your own destiny more. And in the first group, we have Acacia, Lucky, Susie, Jewel, Arrietty, Butthole, and Joella.
B
They started de dragging. And Corey King has. Has shown an interest in Lydia. Arrietty has shown an interest in Lucky. And Arietti is trying to flirt, and it is incredibly awkward.
A
Girl. She's laying on. She's laying on thick.
B
She's like, how are we? We are. We are flirty. And Lucky was like, flirty. I'm giving y' all flirty. She's like. I was like, damn, Lucky. You ain't giving her no regular flirty.
A
No, I think it's cute. Listen, I mean, also.
B
But you. You.
A
You can't be that horny bitch. You've been there for, like, a couple of days. How you. How you.
B
Are you that horny already? I certainly can. I certainly can that.
A
You're thirsty for other girls in the competition already.
B
I'd be horny in it. Don't take me more than a couple hours to get horny, Monet.
A
But I mean enough to like to. To. To. To be laying it on thick for other bitches in a competition.
B
Are they. Are they sexy? You being in my competition, that did not inherently make you unattractive. I don't get how. I don't get how you competing against me inherently makes you unattractive, because if I would have thought you were attractive on the outside, I would think you were attractive here too.
A
Yeah. Because. Because you losing to me would make me feel sorry for you. So, like, that would make me. That makes you less attractive when I feel sorry for you.
B
I'm not even gonna engage with that line of thinking. I'm just gonna let that sit where it is, and you got it. But there's always a thirsting moment after the. After the. The thing. Did you thirst after any of these
A
girls, Monet, this season or like, my seasons this season? No. None of them are really my fanciesty. No, I'm not. I'm not.
B
The cast of season is a bunch of hideous dogs. Um, shall we continue?
A
Honestly, I do think Alexa Love's Love is really hot.
B
So Corey does not want to be on week one, and the two country girls want to be on separate weeks, and then Arrieta and Lana.
A
Arrietty.
B
Arrietty, sorry. And Lana Jarrett also want to be on separate weeks. So other than that, everyone is pretty chill about going where they go.
A
Yeah. Because Arrietty and Lana haven't had. They formed alliance. They have formed the alliance very quickly. Like, the competition just started, and they're like, we're gonna have each other's back, which is. I. I think it's wise if you're gonna split it up, have someone on your back on the other week that can prop you. That's gonna put you at number one. So you have better odds that you don't land in the bottom for sure.
B
Except Joella. Joella really wants to go this week because she wants Katy Perry to see her perform, which is. Makes sense. That makes sense to me.
A
Yeah. Which week would you want to go?
B
Um, I wouldn't care, to be honest.
A
We'll choose one bitch. Give a. Give us an option.
B
I'd be happy to go first, but, like, I wouldn't be like, I gotta go first. I gotta go second. I'd be happy to go first so I can sit and chill next week.
A
Yeah, I would. I would. I would want to go in the
B
first group, but if someone really wanted to, I'd be like, okay, whatever. I don't care. Like, I would. I wouldn't. I wouldn't be fighting, like, if I was. If Whoopi Goldberg was the guy I really want to perform on for week one. You know what I mean?
A
Yeah.
B
But other than that, I wouldn't really care. Like, I'd be like, I'm happy to perform next week. If someone is just like, if Joella was dying to do it and I was the one stopping her, I'd be like, girl, you can go. It's not that big of a deal. To me.
A
I'm sure you said it. I just don't remember. Did you ever say what you do for talent?
B
No. I mean, I probably said I would try to do stand up, but I'd most like to do a funny song.
A
A funny song? But, like, what? I mean, you can't just be a funny. What's the concept, bitch?
B
I haven't given that much thought because I don't plan on going back on Drag Race, but if I'm the drag
A
queen who has a million ideas a day, you've never thought what you're going to do for a talent show on Drag Race? I don't believe it.
B
I've never given any serious consideration like I've thought of. I thought. I think it was of all time, but I haven't given any serious consideration for what I would do if I went back on Drag Race for a talent show because I never did a talent show. That was never part of my experience. I just don't think. I just don't think about it very often. You.
A
You also never had to do a Read your Richie voice, but you've written 19 verses for 19 seasons.
B
Yeah, but I do those for online because those are easy to produce. And I have done tons of talent. I have done funny songs since being on Drag Race. To be clear, you can go check out my song Booty, which is available right now. I have done funny songs since being on Drag Race, but you have to just accept my truth. I just have not given it a
A
ton of thought what I would do.
B
I'm sorry to break the news to you.
A
Yeah, apologize.
B
I don't spend my days thinking about, you know, how to do my talent show on Drag Race, which I will never end up doing.
A
Go ahead.
B
So then they go over to the. They start doing their makeup, and Acacia says that she's gonna do an original song. Lydia says that she wants, and a couple girls are doing original songs. There's, like, quite a few girls. Susie's doing an original song. Lucky Star is doing an original song. What do you think about the original song? Panace throughout?
A
I think the original song is good because then you're saying exactly what you want as opposed to trying to do, you know, lip sync to Ariana Grande or whatever you get, they get the rights that you can do. So I think during original song, you have a lot of time to practice your shit and come up with a creative concept that feels more signature, you know? So I think the creative song route is good. It's just making a good one. It's making a good one that the judges are gonna find. You know, they want something funny. Although there have been some fierce ones. Right, Jewel? You know, spoiler alert. Jewel wasn't funny, but it was fierce. And they liked the other girls, rated it high.
B
So you've done two talent shows.
A
Two. Yeah, you're right, too.
B
One you did. Why? About Nike Herbert, you know, one you did an original song, and one you did an aria. And how did you feel? Like, so. But. And you were. You were safe the first time. And did you win the second time?
A
Yeah, I won a second time.
B
Yeah. So original songs can be a good choice.
A
Yeah, they can. But I think mine was also different. It's an aria. I mean, I could have written.
B
We're talking about original songs. I'm talking about when you did the original song.
A
It was.
B
I said, you can be safe doing the original song.
A
Oh, yeah, for sure. But I'm saying that. No. Cause you said original songs can. Yeah, yeah, original songs can be safe. And I was just saying, like, I could have written maybe an original aria that would have been even fierce. I don't fucking know. But.
B
Oh, maybe that. Maybe. Yeah. So if you would have written aria, then maybe you could have won. Maybe. But people. I mean, obviously people have won with original songs. You wouldn't be the first person to win with an original song. Obviously. This week, Susie II won with original song.
A
I have to get a composer. Oh, my God. That sounds.
B
Did you go to college with composers?
A
I did. I don't keep up with any of them. Though I did meet a fierce Hollywood composer the other day who was. He does a lot of big stuff.
B
Anyway, about to become the age, by the way. Me and. Me and Mateo were talking about this recently. When you are rounding 40, people start reaching out to you again. Something about being. Tell me if you're 40. Ish. Tell me if you have friends. Once you turn 40, people start reaching back out, being like, hey, I'm turning 40. I want to reach out. It's a really odd thing that happens.
A
Reach out about what?
B
I don't know. Being 40. They just want to reach out to old friends. It's really strange. It's a whole thing. I swear it's real. So Lydia said that she wants to judge fairly. Lydia's like, I'm gonna judge fairly. Would you judge fairly?
A
Um, I mean, I would probably try to start an alliance with someone, and whatever we wanted, whatever we decided to do together, which if I'm starting an alliance and the answer is probably no, I'm Gonna. I'm. I'm. I'm gonna help that person out.
B
So you're there with Cracker and. And. And Aquaria and Yuha Hamasaki, and you are the New York City girls, and you have the opportunity to save each other. Are you going to do it, or are you going to be fair?
A
I would if they agreed to it. I feel like a query. Wouldn't. Aquarium would not join the lines. Cracker and Yuha. Would Aquarium be like Aquarius Wouldn't. And I'll. And I'll. And I'll. Give me time.
B
Your aquarium impersonation, huh? Were you about to do your aquarium impersonation? I haven't talked to her in so long. I hope she's okay.
A
I know, I know. I haven't talked to her. Yeah, I love Aquaria, but Aquaria would absolutely not participate in an alliance at all.
B
Talking to Aquaria is so funny because she also talks to herself while she's talking to you.
A
That is very true.
B
Like, she will have a full side conversation with herself while she's talking to you.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's wild.
B
So Katy Perry walks in, and she recognizes Joella. She's a Katy cat, um, girl. And they have, like, a cute little moment.
A
Joella's overcome with emotion.
B
She's actually holding it together pretty well. While Katy Perry's in the room, she actually. While Katy Perry's in the room, she actually holds together pretty well.
A
Yeah. I mean, you must have to go to a lot of. She'd been to a lot of Katy Perry meet and greets for Katy Perry to know her that well by drag name.
B
She's like, oh, Joel, hey, girl like you.
A
You still come over tomorrow? Oh, no, you'll be here. Okay, well, just hit me up when you get back.
B
Yeah, very. The hey, girl.
A
You need a ride home, Literally. So she must spend a lot of money on Katy Perry meet and greets. And Katy Perry is a Joella fan.
B
Katy Perry said, I think the way to win is to play with your alter ego. I want to say, bitch, how would you know how to win Drag Race? I would have been like, thank you for your advice, but bitch, sing firework and hit it.
A
You don't.
B
Don't give us no advice how to win Drag race. You wouldn't know how to win drag Race, honey. Okay.
A
Damn.
B
And then she asked for a tucking tape, and she puts her foot on the table, and you can see her little sticker on the. Something about her sticker on the bottom where she was sending me the Size sticker. I don't know why that sends me, but it was her first time ever wearing that shoe. I feel like she had never worn that shoe. She busted out the new drag for drag race, honey.
A
100% that's. That's real, Honey. Katy Perry is nothing. If. Not. If she's nothing, she's real. Remember that.
B
So you think Katy Perry is nothing? That's crazy. Let's go on to the Runway, which I thought was weird. They did it before this talent show. Is that weird, right?
A
No, that's how they always do it. Because then you do the runways and then you do the thing. Because you present their thing and then sit down. Interesting.
B
Acacia forgot. I don't like it.
A
Horrible. First of all, if he's gonna be a snowman, why is he sad? Like, why is a snowman sad? He should be happy. He's on Drag Race, girl. Like, that's crazy.
B
Why is he a snowman? Is it because it airs in January?
A
Maybe.
B
Y' all know how hot it was
A
when they filmed this?
B
I hate it. I don't like it. Let's see.
A
I think it's a good look, Joe.
B
Oh, the case. By the way, the category is mask for mask, right?
A
Oh, yeah. Mask for mask. Yeah.
B
Joella, what is the. She keeps doing this silhouette. It is a catsuit with a bunch of crazy shit on it and a cape. I'm not saying Cuba. I've seen it twice now. This is her. I'm starting to think that this is Joella's signature drag, which is the crazy catsuit.
A
It's wild to me. I don't like it. And, girl, you just put a plate in front of you. That's not a mask. You just put a plate in front of you and just reveal to this. It's just this catsuit is not the most flattering thing. It's not particularly sickening, but I just love. I'm not even doing a bit, y'. All. I love how confident she feels. I love that Joella's like, bitch, I'm sickening. None of you bitches could never. I'm obsessed with that mentality.
B
Are these shoes too big?
A
I think they're a little too big.
B
Never been a problem for me. That's not true. I once borrowed a pair of shoes from Trixie that were too big. And I borrowed a pair of shoes from you that were too big.
A
Yeah. One time I borrowed some shoes from Ball that were a little.
B
Now, that ain't true. I have borrowed shoes from Trixie and Monet that have Been too big. What I'm saying is literally just true. Monet and Trixie both historically, documentedly have bigger feet than me.
A
I don't think documentedly is a word.
B
That's what I. What it is.
A
Now let's go on to jewels. Sparkle. Multiple jewels. And they're all sparkling.
B
I hate it. What?
A
This is a great look.
B
No, I hate the name.
A
Oh, got it, Got it. This looks fantastic. Was fucking gorgeous. I love. What kind of police are these called? You. You probably know. And you're a little fashion head. Your. I don't know.
B
They just like regular pleats to me.
A
No, there's a name for it. Marco. Marco. Or maybe something that had this. They're called like knife pleats or ribbon. Anyway, this was really cool. This was a mask that she revealed. I think that the cuddle looks beautiful on her. I love how the gloves or the hand things went over her finger, the middle finger. The volume of this. The matching shoes. She looked absolutely stunning. This was a beautiful garment.
B
I'm having a hard time recognizing them out of drag. This is the one with the back problems and the curly hair, right?
A
Yes. Yes.
B
Yeah. Okay. Got it. Yeah, Yeah. I loved her whole storyline, this whole episode. I was so happy to see her. I was really happy for her. She has some really, really great moments. Episode. She looks absolutely stunning here. She has been looking pretty consistently great. Is she the one who looked like spice versus sugar?
A
Yes, yes, I understand.
B
Yeah. I think she looks fantastic. Yeah, I really think she looks great. Love it.
A
Let's go on to Ms. Arrietty in this fucking dope ass look as well. I love, again, a mask. I love how she had this blood motif continue on through the whole thing. The little capelet of draclet thing I think was really cool. Is her mask supposed to be some type of version of a dream catcher? Am I bugging?
B
Not that I know. I don't understand. She said that she's like some elven goddess or elven something who was attacked by her people. So maybe it's like sort of a magic thing where the feathers are floating around her head and they shot through them. I wasn't fully following the story, to be honest. It was a little convoluted. But she looks stunning and I know that.
A
I mean, I do hate. I hate. My only critique on this is a mermaid that starts at the knee when it just has that line.
B
I mean, I don't have that strong
A
feelings about it, to be honest. Really? How do you not do that? I think it was with Naomi. Do you put a godet to make that not happen. How do you not like two godets on the side?
B
Well, I'm not like some seamstress or something. But if you put godets on the side, then you have what's called a trumpet. Right? It's more of a trumpet. And then if you add a giant one to the back, then you end up with a train. It's not really a mermaid. A mermaid kind of has to start at the knee. If you want it to be an actual mermaid, it has to be that big circle thing. It doesn't have to be. But I don't know any other way to make it, quite frankly.
A
Got it.
B
But I have made dresses that have trains and go days on each side before that. Just kind of have this volume at the bottom. But if you wanted to have that big. I mean, I like when. I like when a mermaid is giant. When it. Like, if you look at the way like. Like Alexa Mateo has done a few where it comes from the knee, but it's massive.
A
Who the fuck is Lexi Taylor?
B
Lexus Mateo.
A
Oh, got it, got it, got it, got it.
B
It comes from the knee, but it's huge. I do prefer one of those.
A
Yeah, let's go on to Ms. Butthole. I don't understand what I'm looking at. I did not like this. I didn't think it was cool. This is not for me at all.
B
I don't get it, but I don't mind it, you know, Like, I don't think it looks bad, but it is weird. Like she's an alien, I guess, and the mask is her entire. But also, remember, she loves puppets. She's the puppet queen.
A
Oh, yeah, true. And this kind of looks like the puppet she does in a talent show. Like, the face of it. Like, is this like her. Her signature? Is this her puppet? Like her fucking. The movie. Jacob knows the Golden Compass when they had a little familiars. Is this her, like a puppet version of her familiar?
B
I don't know. They're called demons or demons Damons.
A
Yeah. Interesting. The thing around her head was cool.
B
Yeah. Let's go to Lucky Stars. She's a piece of pizza. Which I think from the tits up. I like this. This corset gets really weird. Her hip padding is kind of strange. And again, why does it always stop at the ankles with her?
A
Yeah. I don't know why she just. Just paint the rest of it or like embellish the rest. That seems. That does strain. Not even the ankles, bitch. The shins. It stops at the Shins.
B
Yeah. I don't like that. She keeps stopping there. Like, girl, you went all the way to the top of your head. You can't just continue down to your feet.
A
Also, I will say I. I love this. I love her. Her drag. It's really cool. But I mean, I will say we kind of get into like the same thing. Big thing on her head, like three times in the episode. There's a little, you know, you gotta be a little careful with that on Drag Race because they will read you.
B
Let's go over to Susie Toot also.
A
Is it a mask? Did she have a mask?
B
Yes, she had a. She had a pizza box.
A
Oh, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right.
B
Susie Toot. I gotta say the reveal. I'm not saying. I'm not saying. But what I am saying, I'm not saying this. I'm saying this. And what this is, is to reveal
A
to that face is crazy.
B
But what I'm not saying is anything about her face. I'm just saying revealing to that face is wild.
A
Is a bold choice.
B
I would never be so bold.
A
Oh, my God, this fucking wig. What the fuck is that? This is crazy. This is crazy. To show up on Drag Race. This is crazy. But we trust.
B
Her lipstick is gonna start driving me crazy. Like, it's gonna start getting to me.
A
Yeah. In toot we trust, 1933. You're right. She's an old time gal.
B
She likes what she likes.
A
What did we just say a few seasons ago that you hate? When girls do reckon to time going by, I think with somebody, you're like, what are you. What are you trying to remember?
B
Well, is that 60s housewifey drag that I don't like. I don't like that. What are you trying to hark into these times for?
A
Oh, it's so good.
B
Why are we trying to make America that time again?
A
You know what I mean?
B
Yeah.
A
Suzanne Toot.
B
I did like when someone said, you know what really made me cackle out loud was when Michelle said, if I had a nickel, you should see what I do for a quarter. I cackled. If I had a nickel, you should see what I do for a quarter. Let's go on Tori King. She looks like Diana Ross. I love this look. Yeah, fantastic.
A
It was my only thing she revealed right at the top of the thing. She didn't give her. She. She didn't. She didn't let her look cook at all. She turned this, this, this, this, this bitch like, she didn't walk. She didn't even step. I Was like, girl, give us time to take it in and give us the drama.
B
How tall is she? Is she tall or not?
A
She's tall for sure. There's no way this bitch is not. I'm going to say at least six 1.
B
Corey King, I know you're listening. How tall are you?
A
You don't know she's listening. Don't be so presumptuous.
B
She listens. Let's go on to Harmona Lisa Harmona Lisa. What was her mask again?
A
She was a skunk, which I thought wasn't interesting. I would never think to be a skunk, but it did feel more helmet. Like her and Susie had helmets on.
B
Yeah, I think this. I think this look is cute, though. I think this. Yeah, it's cute. I like this look. I think she looks good.
A
Yeah, it was cool. I like. I thought it was a good look. Let's go on to Ms. Crystal Envy, who is doing the face crack of the century. And I thought this was a very smart, cool mask. Something I would never think about. She did the hair reveal to whatever. But why this hideous dress? Like, I guess she's trying to do like a doll. Like, Like. Like a doll baby. But isn't. Isn't that a cuter doll baby? You could have been, instead of this fucking ugly shit.
B
I don't. I like this. I think this looks really good. I actually wish she had kept this big hair on as opposed to revealing to the ponytail. Because this hair, that big hair looks like the hair that would be on a baby doll that size. And the ponytail just wasn't fierce enough for me. But I think this look is so cool. I like the fact that it cracks open and it wraps around the hair. This is a really, really cool look. And I like the dress. I'm into this look.
A
I like the dress. I love the hair and the face crack. I think it's like the engineering of it all. It was on her face. It wasn't floppy doppy. It wasn't. It was great. But I don't. I don't like this dress at all.
B
Let's go on to Lexi Love. And I loved the way she walked out. It was really cool.
A
Sing that again, Bob. Even interpolate.
B
You could literally never. I thought this look was really cool. I love this look. I thought Lexi looked really cool on this look.
A
I think so, too. And to have, like a quilted look on and have it cinch to the waist like that. Brilliant. And people said Monash, but she's wearing a helmet. You didn't read Her. But I think the look was so cool that I was. I looked over the helmet of it all and it just. It looked really cool. And I said what I said and I think she killed it.
B
Yeah, I don't mind that there are some helmets in that mask. I don't care about that. Um, because it's easy. Like for example, Alana Jarret. Let's move on to her. This could be considered a helmet too. Cause it goes around her whole head. What was really bothering me the most is that hers wasn't stable. Like when it was. It was like flopping and she had to hold it. That was. You get really uncomfortable as an audience member when you watch someone having to take care of their garment on stage because they're afraid it's going to get harmed. So I did not love that. And. But the cats is pretty cool though.
A
I wish it went down to the toes. And I don't understand these gloves. Do you get the gloves? I don't understand why they're like cat hands.
B
Like sometimes cats fingers are different colors than the paws. Like their paw. Their fingers are. You know, the little fingers be different colors than the rest of their paws sometimes.
A
I mean, I have a cat. I, I get it. But that doesn't, it doesn't look like that. Like, it looks like she just had a cat suit and she had a black. A black opera left glove under it. And she put a little holsters on it. I, I didn't love that. But I did think the cat. The cat head was cool.
B
Let's move on to Onya Nerve. I do not like this look. And I want to like on ya Nerve so bad. Cause I love her personality. But like. And I think what it was. I loved her look so much during the promo. So I'm just surprised by what we're getting visually here on the season. Because I thought her look during the promo was really, really cool.
A
Yeah, this was an interesting outfit. Just looked like a lot going on and it doesn't like. Yeah, it doesn't look really great. Like, and, and it. And there is a way to make this silhouette and this thing. I've seen it like someone take a bunch of different materials and fabrics and textures and make it look really cool. But this hair is also not great. Yeah, it's a tough look.
B
Yeah. Let's move on to Sam Star. You know, this look is perfectly fine. This feels like a hat. I just wanna say. And I know there's the helmet, the mask, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. Whatever this is. This is Just a hat.
A
This bitch is wearing a hat.
B
And, and I also did not like the wig underneath the hat. I thought it did. I, I, it was, it was. I did not like. If, if the point is the mask, then I don't like this look.
A
I don't understand also what is like. Yes, you're a rain cloud. Raining. But is this like a rainbow supposed to be coming through after the rain?
B
Rainbow. There's rainbow after the rainbow.
A
Got it. Don't like it.
B
Yeah, same.
A
Um, let's talk about the talent shows. Bob.
B
So during the talent show, Jules Sparkles does La Leche. And I thought there were some funny parts. I think she's a really good performer, but the fact that her boobs did not shoot milk is just crazy. That's crazy. The fact that her boobs didn't shoot milk is insane.
A
That would have been a nice touch, actually. I didn't think about that. Uh, but yeah, I think she's a very obviously, I love the, the, the ponyt. She's a good dancer and a good performer. I did think as she was doing it, I was like, ooh, girl, you're doing all your tricks, girl. All your tricks. Which is I always play. The downfall of doing the talent show to begin the season, it's like these girls are busting out their tricks. Well, the ones who decide to do a number and lip sync and dance like that, like they're giving us all that they have at the top of the season.
B
What if those aren't all her tricks, though?
A
Maybe you're right. Maybe, maybe there are more. I mean, she lip syncs later on and we didn't see anything different. But, you know, who knows?
B
Maybe she's the pacing queen. Who knows? Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
Let's go to Arrietty. Arrietty. This nose contour with this outfit was very upsetting. Yeah, it was very upsetting. I was like, I'm angered by looking at this because her every, every other thing about her hair, her makeup, her garment, her everything was very like, standard drag or even like traditional garb. And then just this random nose in the middle of it all just really threw me off.
A
Yeah. And I think. And she did a traditional dance, which was dope, cool. Love it. I think a way that she could have made it more interesting was keep on taking off layers of the skirt, but still to give her the drama. But I don't know, just do take off more to make it a little more exciting. It just felt once she started doing it at the beginning, that's all we got. For the entire thing. I wish she varied it a bit more and give us a little more to take away from the summer, but it was just all kind of one note.
B
Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't super fantastic. And I don't know how that dance is. The truth is, if anyone listening is a. Or watching is a practitioner of this kind of dance. If you perform this as well. How did she do? Did she do it really, really well? Did she do a really good job or did she do a just fine job or did she do a bad job? I don't know. I really don't know. I've only ever seen a few people. I saw. What's her name, Yara Sofia do this on Drag Race before.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
And I've heard in Cynthia Lee Fontaine and I have talked about it. I think it's a Puerto Rican thing.
A
And was. And was. Yara's good.
B
Well, Yara Sofia did it during comedy challenge.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
No, it wasn't. Yara Sophia. Yara Sofia did it during comedy challenge, but someone else did it during a lip sync or something.
A
You think you talking about coke, mon trees and yellow things.
B
No, no. Yasuvia did it during comedy challenge, and then someone else did it during a lip sync or something. I can't. A girl. All these episodes later, my brain started turning to mush. You know what I mean?
A
Let's go into Ms. Butthole. Who she did an original song, and she starts as her butthole puppet, which was really cool, the Using the bravado with the jaw. The puppet was really, really dope. And then she reveals. And then she reveals the puppet. Although this was, like a. A safe number. It wasn't exciting, it wasn't horrible. It was safe to me.
B
I agree. And I think after the face, this puppet is up to the head, which is, by the way, I want to say, just to be clear, I could never make that.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
I could never make that. But once you get past the head of this puppet, this puppet's really poorly made. Like, the body is really. I could make the bottom of this puppet easily. And I honestly feel like I could probably do it in less than three hours. Like, I really think I could learn. I could make that in less than three hours easily without ever having a lesson. And it started off really strong, and then it just kind of got whack to me. Two years.
A
Yeah. Yeah, I agree.
B
But I did love the face. The face of the puppet is really, really cool. And Susie, too, is like having Susie toot is obsessed with this like. I'm obsessed with the fact that Susie Toot is so obsessed with this performance.
A
Cause this puppet looks like it has a little feather in hell. It looks like a little 1920s, 1930s puppets. Suzy.
B
Got it. You're right.
A
Let's go on to Lucky's Lemonade Stand where she's doing her lemonade number. She is. It's an original song. She's squirting lemonade out her tits. Bryce is trying to catch the lemonade to drink it. She has lemon, lemon boobs, lemonade, lemons on her ass. And she has a big lemon head. I think this was a very exciting number. It was a really fun. Anytime you're squirting shit on the stage and getting it dirty and dancing and shit, I'm having a good time. So I, I, I enjoyed this number.
B
I would really love this number in the club. If I saw this number in the club, I would absolutely be obsessed. I love her eye makeup during this. It is so fucking cool how gigantic it is. Her head is this big bucket of lemonade. I wonder how much of this she made ahead of time. I'm just so curious as to what goes into the process of making a Lucky Stars costume or outfit, you know?
A
Yeah.
B
I really love this number. I thought it was really well done.
A
Yeah.
B
Can we move on to Joella?
A
Nuh. Not just Joella. The Asian diva of Los Angeles. The Solasian Asian Desalasian diva of Los Angeles.
B
At one point, she stopped the number and she said, y' all thought. Stop the music. Y' all thought that was sickening. And I was like, no, I didn't. I have. To be honest. I didn't. I have to keep it a buck with you. I did not.
A
Also these shoes. I gagged the shoes. The shoes gagged me. The shoes took me out from the top of the number. I was gagged. And
B
I'm becoming obsessed with Joella.
A
That's what I said, Bob. It do take nerve. The confidence it takes to be this bitch. I'm obsessed.
B
I am becoming Joella obsessed.
A
She is. She don't care.
B
Y' all thought that was sick of me.
A
No, but you thought she was sick.
B
Let's move on to Acacia Forgot.
A
Nuh, not just Acacia. Forgot the country.
B
This your new bit? I'm obsessed with this bit. This is a great bit. Monet
A
girl.
B
You know what?
A
I will say her talent should have just been playing the guitar. I know she's a singer, she likes to sing, but she. Her guitar playing was very impressive. Okay. She would have got up there and just did a bunch of fingerings and stuff. That would have been impressive enough. But she added the singing.
B
The singing was good.
A
I'm saying the singing was bad. But all in all, just. I think she was just focused on the guitar and like, fucking us up with some really crazy trills and finger patterns. That would have been really gag worthy. Cause we've never seen that before.
B
Didn't Trixie do the thing?
A
I forgot what it's called. Harvard chord. No, Harvard Accord. Looks like a piano. This is called something else. It's not a harpsichord.
B
Whatever. But didn't Trixie do that for a talent?
A
She did and she sang. But hers is a slow song, I think.
B
Oh, she sang as well. She said what I thought interesting was like, from the instruments I was hearing, the guitar was the one I wanted to see the. See the least. If she would get up there and start fiddling. And I mean, not violin and fiddling. The milk jungle. I believe it was called an auto harpoon. Start going. That would have been Bob in 60 seconds.
A
What do you want this bitch to do?
B
Also, the banjo is a very impressive instrument. Like, to see someone play a banjo is bananas, y'. All.
A
And you should say she.
B
She says she plays the banjo.
A
Well, she should have done that maybe. But yeah, I think. I think her playing would have been impressive because. Yeah, we still seen some. Honestly, next season, can someone do a piano? I was the one to come on stage and get who? You've already seen it.
B
Who? Her name is the Reverend Sokinah. Megan Knox play piano.
A
Oh, did she. Was it good? Did she win?
B
She did not win and it was not good.
A
Well, I want a classical. I want someone to get up there and be like, give me some Rachmaninoff, give me some Chopin and fuck it up. That's what I want. I would gag.
B
I want someone to give them play Chopsticks.
A
Okay, got it. Thank you, Jacob. Jacob is coming through. Jacob said, I am working today.
B
Let's move on to. Who came out and did a tap routine and an original song. Sorry, are we boring you, bitch? No, sorry, I just. No. The answer is no, you're not. Because I actually really enjoyed this number.
A
It was fun. Yeah, this is a good number, Suzy. Good. I mean, I'm not versed in tapping. I'm not like, this bitch, like, wants a lot of tapping or. I didn't go to school with theater people that tapped. So I don't know what's good tapping, what's bad tapping. I mean, that's not true. Bob has shown Me, the fucking Sutton Foster 20s apartment 19 million times. But that's also. I recognize that's like the top tier of tapping. So I would say top tier.
B
I would say top tier. Like Savion Glover. Savion Glover, Gregory Hines, Elizabeth Powell. I would say Joe Robinson. That is some top tier tapping.
A
Got it.
B
In my opinion.
A
Well, yeah, I think Susie did a great job. I was entertained by the number. It was great, albeit her face and how she looks, you know, whatever. But the number was very entertaining. She did a great job.
B
So then what ends up happening is lucky Arrieta and Lydia are safe. Ariet, Arrietty and Lydia are all safe. And then Acacia is the bottom queen of the week. And Katia said she was one of the only queens to show true talent,
A
which is such a. Like, what do you mean true talent? That's so stupid. True talent because you sang and played instrument, that's true talent. So Susie wasn't doing the talent dancing that Jewel did is not talent.
B
That's crazy that it was an overproduced song.
A
Well, and she in the bottom looking sad, bald headed and confused. Which leaves Jewel Sparkle and Susie Toot as the top two queens of the week. They lip sync and what'd you think of the lip sync they do?
B
Woman's World by Katy Perry. And to be honest, I thought that, that Jules won. I thought Jules performance was better. And Susie's tap dancing didn't even go in time with the music. And when she started doing a little toe, I was like, girl, if you don't fucking start huffing, if you don't start doing. It's a woman's world and I'm lucky to be living in like, girl tap. If you're gonna say you're the ten tapping toes of Philly or wherever the hell you're from, they start tapping.
A
Well, I think that she was referencing her Morse code thing from her earlier number. And also, do you know? I mean, I know sos.
B
If she would have did that, if she would have hit them with that, she would've been like, this bitch is about to be in trouble. Somebody better help this bitch. You are the nine tapping toes of Tampa.
A
What happened to the tenth one?
B
Did it fall off? That's what she said.
A
Um, yeah, but I mean, I disagree only because we had just seen Jewel do literally Jewel before the first chorus. Jewel did a spin, a split and it was just like, girl. Like, I think that Jules got excited and I'm calling her Jewel. Jules got excited and she wanted to win so bad and she Just gave us all of it before the first chorus. And then she had nowhere to go. At least Susie paced herself and she gave us, like a little more of a performance of a show, you know what I mean? That's why I think Susie won, I guess.
B
So Susie 2 ends up winning. She wins $5,000. She's the first winner. And then she says, they finally see that I'm a threat. Girl, it's the first episode.
A
I mean, the first girl that wins. Like, when Mayhem won our first episode,
B
we were like, they finally see.
A
Finally. Got it. Got it.
B
I'm like, girl, she was talking to girls back home. That ain't had nothing to do with these girls here. Girl, that was a vendetta you had from back at the house. These girls. She had been waiting to say that for a long time. And finally. And nobody.
A
Where's she from?
B
Tampa, I think.
A
And nobody in all of Tampa. No drag queen that there is or was.
B
No bush queen that there is or was. I said, she is.
A
Is never gonna see me, ta.
B
Literally, I was like, girl, okay, girl, you got some trauma to work out. And that's fair.
A
That's fair. I mean, that's fair. We'll see. We'll see how this ends up going for Susie, but hopefully she gets this fucking makeup together. I can't. I can't.
B
So next week, a case youe forgot is going to be lip syncing against somebody who's gonna end up in the bottom.
A
You want to predict who's going to
B
be in the bottom for the next group?
A
Who's the next group?
B
Well, yeah, who is the next group? Actually, no, it's not predict. I don't want to predict because I honestly can't remember them at this point. It's too early. It's too early to remember people.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah. But that being said, we have our first. You know, I gotta be honest. This group. I think we need to go back to shooting the promo during the first episode because I. The difference between that and Is crazy.
A
But they've been doing that first since season 10. No, since like, season 12. And it's been fine.
B
This one was. I have not seen one this jarring between how you were and how you are.
A
Yeah, how you were.
B
Like, it gagged me. I was truly gagged at how they looked versus how I thought they were gonna look. Like, genuinely. I was shook.
A
I'd agree. I'd agree.
B
We need to go back to shooting during the season. All right. Because you're in your season.
A
Yeah, ours happened. Episode two, right after Episode two.
B
Yeah.
A
All right, Bob. Well, who's going to win?
B
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Who's going to win? We always do this. Who is going to win season 17 of RuPaul's Drag Race? Who will be the winner?
A
My. Okay, no, wait. We don't do top two or top three.
B
I. I mean, I don't want to say who's going to win, but we can do whatever you want.
A
I want to say my top three. I think my top three are Lana Jarret, Jules Sparkle, and Lexi Love. Those are my top three.
B
Well, because I ain't no bitch, and I'm not scared. I'm gonna pick one. Lingerie is gonna be the winner of season 17 of RuPaul's Drag Race. Work, Mona's Ray. Congratulations. You are. You are the winner of rup. You are the America's next drag superstar. Welcome to the winner circle. Sis. Welcome, welcome.
A
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Date: January 8, 2025
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob The Drag Queen
This episode of Sibling Watchery marks the kick-off of RuPaul's Drag Race Season 17 with a detailed, hilarious, and often shady review of episode one, "Squirrel Games." Monét and Bob bring their signature banter and deep Drag Race knowledge to break down the queens’ entrances, the Squirrel Games (a Squid Game-inspired mini-challenge), runway critiques, talent show performances, and their impressions of this season’s new cast.
Split into two groups for “Drag Race Got Talent.”
Bob and Monét are quick-witted, irreverent, and unafraid to be shady. They combine genuine drag knowledge with over-the-top reactions (especially about questionable wigs, makeup, and silhouettes), and aren’t afraid to poke fun at each other or the queens. Their recaps are full of laughter, inside jokes, bold opinions, and nuanced drag analysis.
If you missed the episode, this Sibling Watchery recap offers a hilarious, thorough, and unfiltered lens on the first episode of Drag Race season 17—balancing sharp shade with insightful commentary, and giving you every reason to be excited for the season ahead. For Untucked and additional takes, head over to their Patreon!