Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race S17 EP13 "Drag Baby Mamas"

Summary

Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race S17 EP13 “Drag Baby Mamas”

Podcast: Sibling Rivalry
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
Date: April 2, 2025
Episode Focus: A detailed, comedic, and heartfelt review of RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 17, Episode 13 — the iconic Drag Family Makeover challenge (“Drag Baby Mamas”).

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Overview

This episode of Sibling Watchery dives deep into the Season 17 “Drag Baby Mamas” makeover challenge, widely considered a staple for emotional moments in Drag Race herstory. Bob and Monét, with their trademark banter and chemistry, break down not just the queens and their familial counterparts, but what it means to see acceptance and vulnerability unfold on TV. The duo discuss big moments, runway looks, and the spectrum of support and emotional connection across the contestant’s families, peppered with hilarious tangents and plenty of quotable shade.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Emotional Stakes of Drag Family Makeover

• Both hosts acknowledge the deep emotional resonance of the episode.
  • Monét: “This is one of the best motherfucking episodes of RuPaul’s. Even though no one went home, y’all know that's...my least favorite thing in the world. This episode was, y’all...There’s a chance they might win the Emmy again this year.” (04:10)
  • Bob: “So emotional. This was a very emotional episode...It was very beautiful to watch...season 17 has taken me on a rollercoaster of emotions.” (04:47)

Personal Family Reflections

• The pair riff about how their own relatives would react to being featured.
  • Monét with her late mother and father: “If my mother was alive and she came in...I would be a doll...Like, how did you get here?...And my dad would be down. My dad has all gold teeth, so he’d be grilled up.” (05:25–06:23)
  • Bob: “If my grandma came, I would gag...She’s just such a beautiful person. She’s done so much for me.” (16:48–17:04)

The Makeover Challenge & Spectrum of Family Support

• The episode showed a wide variety of family dynamics, from enthusiastic support to reserved acceptance.
  • Bob: “I love the spectrum of openness we’re seeing...the array…the spectrum of what acceptance looks like.” (23:15)
  • Monét: “Lexi’s mom was the thing that made me cry...using her proper pronouns and then correcting herself on TV. What a great example...today is Trans Day of Visibility, and like, what a remarkable thing to see on this day.” (27:46)
  • Both discuss how impactful these moments are for audiences and queer families at large.

Runway Looks & Critiques

• Extensive, highly comedic commentary on each queen’s makeover execution.

  • Monét gushes over Sam’s transformation of her mom: “Sam’s mom...the makeup Sam doing to her mom is so good. Sam ate her mom like her. Just this...she really did her mom.” (29:57)
  • On Lexi’s look: “There is clearly a family resemblance here. Like, clearly.” (34:11)
  • On Susie’s mom’s discomfort: “She does not want to be here. No, she doesn’t want to do this. But she’s not complaining. But it’s all over her face…” (29:03–29:13)

• Shenanigans over arbitrary judging:

  • Bob: “The judging on this fuck every fucking season. It’s so arbitrary... Sometimes the rules they have for this season, they don’t do the next one.” (35:03)
  • Monét: “You can have a family resemblance without wearing the exact same fabric.” (35:20)

Noteworthy Runway Moments

• Susie Toots’ padding on her mom draws hilarious ire:
  • Monét: “Susie is going to prison for this padding on her mom. She took the Astro Booty pads right off the shelf. Put it right on her mama. Girl, trim the motherfucking pads down for your mama.” (38:21)
• On the disastrous Ice Climber look for Jules Sparkles and her dad:
  • Bob: “The ice climbers. Jules Sparkles... They do look like the fucking ice climbers.” (40:12)
  • Monét: “I was just waiting for the thing. It never came. I actually prefer the hair without the hood on...This is a bad look.” (41:38)

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Memorable Quotes & Banter

• On being outdone:
  “You tried to keep a bad bitch down but I got mine, honey. ...You will never have a leg up on me, darling.” — Monét X Change (02:11)
• On the range of Drag Race names this season:
  Bob: “The names this season...I can’t. With the name Jewels. Multiple jewels. They’re all sparkling. Susie is farting twice.” (22:45)
• On padding mishaps:
  “Susie is going to prison for this padding on her mom...You put her on out in these streets with some curves and swerves.” — Monét X Change (38:21)
• On family acceptance:
  “Lexi’s mom using her proper pronouns and then correcting herself on tv...that was just so sickening to me.” — Monét X Change (27:46)
• On RuPaul’s iconic runway:
  “This is the best she has looked all season...Mark my words, this will be the promo look for next season.” — Monét X Change (32:57)
• On Drag Race judging:
  “It’s so arbitrary...the most arbitrary, random. So I can’t even. I’m not even going what they’re saying because they just be saying shit.” — Bob the Drag Queen (35:03)
• Queens' banter on genitalia if they woke up as a woman:
  • “I would want to take a mirror to my pussy...I want a fat one. I want one that’s spilling out.” — Bob (31:28–32:27)
  • “You would have a very skinny pussy...there’s nothing wrong with squiggly pussy.” — Monét (31:46)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [04:10–04:47] — Hosts’ emotional reactions to the episode, predictions on RuPaul’s Emmy prospects
• [16:44–18:34] — Reflections on which family members would make them cry if they walked in
• [20:00–22:14] — Assessment of each queen’s family dynamic, especially Sam and Susie’s mom
• [27:46–28:19] — Lexi’s mom’s pronoun moment (Trans Day of Visibility)
• [29:57–30:19] — Makeup critiques: Sam’s work on her mom
• [34:11–35:20] — Makeover runway critiques: family resemblance discourse
• [38:21] — Susie Toots’ padding controversy
• [40:12–41:38] — Jules Sparkles’ “ice climber” moment breakdown
• [51:26–54:47] — Lip sync and bottom two reactions; deep discussion of comedy queens and performance
• [55:25–56:44] — Snatch Game and challenge performance debate; hosts discuss their own Watchery seasons

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Episode Wrap-up

Who’s the Comedy Queen?

• Ongoing debate: Monét roots for Jules Sparkles, Bob backs Anya Nerve, both agree on their strengths and contributions to the season. (54:38–55:25)

Season Predictions

• Both hosts firmly support Anya Nerve as their pick to win Season 17.
  • “I’ve been saying it for weeks now, Anya Nerve for the win.” — Bob (57:24)
  • “Anya Nerve 4D win.” — Monét (57:28)

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Final Thoughts

This episode showcases not only the humor and signature irreverence of Bob and Monét, but also the heart of Drag Race itself: acceptance, family, and emotional vulnerability. Their analysis, while playful, never loses sight of the importance of queer representation, making this one of their more resonant recap episodes. If you missed the episode, between runway breakdowns, nuanced discussion of family on reality TV, and Bob and Monét’s playful arguments about “squiggly pussy,” you’re fully caught up.

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For Untucked, deeper tea, and bonus content, the hosts direct listeners to the Sibling Rivalry Patreon.

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Notable Quotes [Quick Reference]

• “There’s a chance they might win the Emmy again this year.” – Monét X Change [04:10]
• “This is one of the most emotional ones we’ve ever seen on Drag Race for sure.” – Bob the Drag Queen [16:14]
• “Lexi’s mom was the thing that made me cry this episode...What a great example to be setting.” – Monét X Change [27:46]
• “You can have a family resemblance without wearing the exact same fabric.” – Monét [35:20]
• “Susie is going to prison for this padding on her mom.” – Monét [38:21]
• “These looks are bad. I do not like...I don’t even understand what the point of view was.” – Bob [43:44]

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End of Episode Summary

Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now.

[Monet X Change]

Our book club doesn't give out books. You gotta get your book on your own. You know, listen to it, audio, however you get it. But join me over on the Patreon to talk about my book Harry Simon Live in Concert. And to join the book club. Just join the Patreon. If you're already member Patreon. See you there. You tried to keep a bad bitch down but I got mine, honey. I got mine, honey.

[Jacob]

Where?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, where?

[Monet X Change]

Don't Worry about that. Don't worry about that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She probably came to your gig, huh?

[Monet X Change]

Just know that you tried to keep a bad bitch down. But, baby, grab.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Grab me that.

[Monet X Change]

That cream hood, that cream sweater. But, baby, I'm gonna get mine. You will never have a leg up on me, darling.

[Jacob]

Never.

[Monet X Change]

Not once, darling.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y' all see that? This. This I just had.

[Monet X Change]

What are you picking your teeth with?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y' all see that? I got it. What are you picking your teeth with a post it?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I clean my nails with post it sometimes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Listen, y', all, you know, dude, wait. Hold me low. You calm your ass. Let me see. Let me see what else they got. You.

[Monet X Change]

And, baby, listen, I got the whole. You can never keep a bad bitch down, darling. Keep that in mind.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, tell me, where did you see her?

[Monet X Change]

I'm not. That's. That's none. That's literally none of your business, Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you don't tell me I'm not the episode. I'm going to hang up the call right now.

[Monet X Change]

Hang it up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Prove it.

[Monet X Change]

I'm calling your bluff.

[Jacob]

I haven't updated his website yet, so if you want, you can go to seethedragqueen.com and look at all of his most recent gigs. And it's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know what his movie was, but when I got it was in Austin. I know you were not in Austin recently, so the person had to.

[Monet X Change]

You don't know where I am, Bob. You don't have access to my.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

None of your books that I was in Austin. I know you were not in Austin recently.

[Monet X Change]

Listen, can we talk about this episode of RuPaul's Drag Race, please?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yo, I want to fight you, Silver. I want to take my fist and take it into your cheek like this. What I want to do.

[Monet X Change]

Well, listen, if you bring your gnarled, grizzly, abrasive hands across my smooth skin, I'm calling the cops. And on that note, y', all, this is not silic rivalry. This is Silvic Watchery. And we're reviewing season 17, episode 13 of RuPaul's Drag Race. This is one of the best motherfucking episodes of RuPaul's. Even though no one went home, y' all know that's my. My, my Krypton. Like, that's, like, my least favorite thing in the world. This episode was, y', all. There's a chance they. They might win the Emmy again this year.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So emotional. This was a very emotional episode. Cause of many things that happened this episode. It was very beautiful to watch. And, you know, I think that with the joke stealing episode, and this episode, season 17, is doing it for me now again, season 17 has taken me on a rollercoaster of emotions.

[Monet X Change]

If Jackie walked through the door, do you think you'd be emotional?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Uh, no, I wouldn't mind. I would not be emotional.

[Monet X Change]

I feel like that's Monet's mom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just so y' all know, I would be so gagged. Cause, I mean, you met my mom. My mom has a big personality. I don't think she would thrive front of the cameras and stuff. I think she. She'll get shy in front of the cameras. She said, where's the scotch, y'?

[Jacob]

All?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I told her story already. That was crazy.

[Monet X Change]

If. If I. If my mother was alive and she came in this. In that door with her walker and her little oxygen tank, I would be a. A doll.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, you sure? I. You 100%. Cuz. You would just be gagged that she dead. They got her there. You would be so gagged. They got her to California.

[Monet X Change]

Like, how did you get here? I like, did y' all drive her? She does not fly. I'd be like, what are you. I. Ariana, what are you doing here?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What if. What if. What if. What if a Frank Pridgen walks in?

[Monet X Change]

If my dad. My dad. I think my dad would do it. My dad would definitely show up. He would definitely do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He would be.

[Monet X Change]

He would be into it. Um, I don't know how well my dad would do in drag, though. I mean, I don't know how much me and my father look alike either. Like, in my mind, I think I look more like my Uncle Steve than I do my father or not look more like my mom than I do anyone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Dad. Um, I see you definitely. You definitely look more like your mom than your dad, for sure.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but, I mean, my dad would be down. My dad would be down. My dad has all gold teeth, so he'd be grilled up. You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's his name?

[Monet X Change]

My father's name?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Frank. Honestly? Frank.

[Monet X Change]

Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob and Frank the drag queen.

[Monet X Change]

Frank. Bob and Frank. Frank the drag queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's so ridiculous.

[Monet X Change]

What's Jackie's name?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

How many. How many more exchange puns can you do? How many more money. How many more money puns do you have? In the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In the bank, it will be. Oh, Lucy, change.

[Monet X Change]

There you go, Monet. You're running. You're running out of puns, bitch. You're running out of puns. Short change. Pocket change.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Petty cash.

[Monet X Change]

Petty cash. Carincia, exchange. The Original name.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Before we go in, there's one. There's a queen of PG named Sweet Tea. Her name is Sweet Tea the drag queen. Sweet Tea, your kid?

[Monet X Change]

No, I think a lot of people just use. I think that I have popularized the use of the drag queen. Now my drag daughter, Free, her name is actually Alfresha, but she goes by Free the Drag Queen, partly because she's my drag daughter, but also because it's

[Bob the Drag Queen]

just a great way to be like American chattel serving.

[Monet X Change]

No, it's because her name, like, her name is so, like, Free. It's just F R E E. But I. But we named Alfredo. I named Alfredo Alfresha before he ever did a single bit of drag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why Alfresha?

[Monet X Change]

Because his name is Alfredo. And I just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you, Bob.

[Monet X Change]

And I just. What feminine spin would you put on Alfredo?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why does it have to be their name?

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I like to give people, like, a feminine version of their name. I just think something about. I think is funny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's my.

[Monet X Change]

What's the feminine version of Kevin Monet?

[Jacob]

We call you Monica.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I do call you Monica. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I love. I love a good. I love a good perversion of a name. I think it's funny. So I've been calling Free Alfresha for a long time. Also.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is my first time seeing Bob City Book Tour. I started reading your book. I started reading it on Monday last week. I'm up to part three now, and I am so proud of you in writing this book. When I read it, I'm like, wow. I can't believe. I don't mean like, wow, I can't believe Barbara wrote this. But I'm just like. Cause again, you have some words, some things in there. I'm like, this is so Bob. I just read something today about something. Somebody was built like a shit brick house. And I was like, that is such a Bob saying a brick shithouse about the big dude.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, thank you. And if you guys want to get my book, you can go to readthread queen.com if you want to know. The. The best way to support me to get. Help me get to the New York Times. I would say do a local bookstore. If you want to know the cheapest version for you, it would be Amazon. If you don't know how I make the most money is buying it off the TikTok shop. When you click my link on TikTok. So do what you want to do. I would like to be on the New York Times and then worry about money. Later. But those and also. And also audiobooks help as well. So anything you guys can do, I'm greatly appreciative and I will be forever in your debit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm going to request someone. Someone's partner reading the book while the. While the. While someone is sucking their dick. If you do that, tag me on Twitter. I want to see someone reading Harriet Tubman live in concert while their partner's sucking them off.

[Monet X Change]

This is. And, well, you have all the tools you need to make that happen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'm saying. But I want to see people do it. But I'm trying to tell people to buy your book and fucking tag us in it.

[Monet X Change]

I want to say you have all the tools you need to make to make the art you want to make in the world. You want to see in the world.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you want to see a video of me sucking Andy's dick while he's.

[Monet X Change]

What was sibling jerkery? Was our sibling jerky was the thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, this will be too. We sure this. This. This going to be sibling. Sibling bookery suckery.

[Monet X Change]

Maybe not Harriet Tubman, but maybe not a hair tub of book. So get some. Get your dick sucked or something else. Maybe listen to one of my song. Something I. Something about reading hair tone, booging and dick suck just seems off. That being said, top of the episode. Sam is so emotional. This is the real Sam. Can I say that it's real now? When Sa. Sam is spicy. When they're joking about her going home next. When they say sh. I will never been a bum again. She said cut to Sam was like that. That I. I feel it's so much easier to connect to Sam now. And. And I feel like this is actually the real version of Sam that we. That we have been trying to say. When they say they want the vulnerability. When they say they want the you to loosen up. I believe that that's what they were talking about. Personally.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, people are multifaceted. I think Sam is all. All those things and this thing. Because later we're going to talk about it untucked. But she. She doesn't have friends back home. Because I think the other Sam we've been seeing is also part of Sam. That turn that turns people off.

[Monet X Change]

I. I found that version of her charming. I mean. I mean, she was. She was kind of pounding, but like, she was. She was being real. I found it quite charming. But it was weird that she still somehow blamed Lexi for her. The. The what? How is it Lexi's fault? Because she didn't join your team. Lexi did what she had to do to make her. To advance her game. I know Lexi was. Lexi was looking out for Lexi. But it is weird to me that Sam's like. And I blame Lexi. I'm like, okay, that's a. That is very misguided energy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, not misguided. You know, some girls. Some girls always need a fall guy. I saw that TikTok of you and Dylan Efron. Dylan.

[Monet X Change]

What about me and Dylan? We haven't seen each other in a minute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There was something.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, was it in the castle?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, we filmed that in the castle.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So y' all get to y'.

[Monet X Change]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So y' all could, like, film TikTok and shit for later on.

[Monet X Change]

They give us a phone, but it's not our phone. They just give us phones and they will. Then they will mail us. They will send us the footage or something. Screaming. But the crazy thing is that he filmed that literally moments before going in there and trying to. And kick me out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, guys saw you with the outfit you had on, and you were like, oh, I'm gonna eat you up in this outfit. Literally, probably an hour later, he was like, not even.

[Monet X Change]

Not even. I said literally. There's a comment that literally, moments later, he grouped together. I was like, this is crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Listen, these white people. You cannot trust these white people as far as you can throw them. They will turn on you.

[Monet X Change]

I can throw Dylan pretty far. I feel he's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's pretty.

[Monet X Change]

He's not that big.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob.

[Monet X Change]

That is a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You think you can throw Dylan Efron far?

[Monet X Change]

I could throw Dylan Efron at least

[Bob the Drag Queen]

three feet, and that's far.

[Monet X Change]

How far could you throw Dillon Efron? Like, what the fuck?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You act like you. You could throw in my yard, But I didn't mean.

[Monet X Change]

I think three feet is pretty far to throw a grown man.

[Jacob]

This.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not.

[Monet X Change]

We can't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We can't get into this. We are rivaling too much.

[Monet X Change]

Is that gonna be one of our. Anything you do, we're gonna bring Dylan out front. We're both gon throw him and see who can throw him the furthest. He'll do it. He be rock climbing. He'll let us throw him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Awesome.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. So the next day. It must have been a long weekend, because Sam. Was it. Was it Veteran day weekend? What? What? Cause Sam came back with a whole beard.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I mean, you grow your facial. Do you grow your facial hair fast? I don't remember, to be honest.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, not particularly fast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I Grow my facial hair pretty fast. You give me a weekend if I start Friday, I shaved yesterday. By Monday, I would have a beard in for sure.

[Monet X Change]

You know those girls who be those people, those men who be having beards by five o'. Clock.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yes. Like queens.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, just men in general. Just people. People like people who grow like Mitch. If you shave Mitch at noon, by 1 o', clock, he's going to be a full beard. I know he would. I know he would.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Mitch is. Mitch is 100% like a wolf person, though.

[Monet X Change]

Then they come into the mini game, spill the tea, where they have to basically give out superlatives. I love this game.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it's a fun game as well. Some of the ones to note, obviously, everyone choosing saying, Jude's gonna go home, which I'm gag she. But she's aware about it though. I'm like, bitch, you have the least amount of wins of courts are gonna say. What are they gonna say?

[Monet X Change]

I also wanted Susie to like, first of all, Susie, like, do your real fake orgasm. There's no way that was your fake orgasm. Like some. Someone A is lying. As they said a couple episodes. A is lying. That was the name of the episode of. Anyway, a lie. I'm like, girl, do your real fake orgasm.

[Jacob]

That's not.

[Monet X Change]

That's. That is no way you're gonna.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I hear your fake orgasm?

[Advertiser]

Have you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, have you ever faked an orgasm?

[Monet X Change]

No, I never faked one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have twice before.

[Jacob]

We have on this podcast before.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I don't remember.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I definitely faked an orgasm for sure.

[Monet X Change]

And do you think they believed you how.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I know they did.

[Jacob]

And they weren't like, where to go?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, because I was inside of them.

[Monet X Change]

But still, where'd it go? Then they went to the bathroom. Where'd it go?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think. I mean, he did not expel the load in front of me, so I don't know. I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

He's a bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is lying. I don't know how long he kept it in there, but it wasn't in front of me. That it was. He was babysitting, he was incubating baby.

[Jacob]

So.

[Monet X Change]

But I'm really intrigued. So, like, Jules and Anya both vote that they want each other. That they want each other. I'm like, y', all, it's not who do you want to go home? It's who do you think will go home? It's not who do you. Cause at one point they were like, who would you love to see go and whose time is it to go? Those are two different questions.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right, right.

[Monet X Change]

Um, but what was shocking to me was, like, if the point is to. If the point is to get points, and Jewel says she knew everyone was gonna say her name, bitch, why didn't you just put your own thing up there and get a point?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I. Yes, logically, that makes sense, but you also don't want to, like, agree with everyone. Feels so shitty. Like, I feel like you don't. You. You don't have faith in yourself.

[Monet X Change]

I want the point, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, true, true.

[Monet X Change]

But Anya wins. Anya is eating the girls up in every aspect, every possibility, every which way turn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maxi Minnie, Tinny girl. Every challenge, she's just.

[Monet X Change]

I want to see how far you can go with all those versions. I wanted to see. I wanted to see how long that would go.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not very long, girl. Yeah. Anya is always eating the girls up. RuPaul announces it is a makeover challenge, and the girls are. He brings in their family members. And this is one, honestly, in Drag Race history, one of the most emotional ones we've ever seen on Drag Race for sure. Like, it is super emotional. Bitch. I think the biggest one is Anya. Anya. When Anya realized from the first one, her. Her eyes started, well, with tears. And when her dad came out, she was emotional, fully just up. But it was so beautiful and cute to see. I love it.

[Monet X Change]

Do you have any family members that would elicit a big response from you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My grandmother, maybe. If my grandmother came, I would be. I would. I would gag.

[Monet X Change]

What's your grandma's name?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cecilia.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cecilia.

[Jacob]

Exchange.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, why? Cecilia.

[Monet X Change]

Exchange. Cecilia. Cecilia. Deal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cecilia.

[Jacob]

Deal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's good one. Cecilia. Deal.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If my grandma came, I would gag because my grandmother has. She's just done. She's just such a beautiful person. She's done so much for me in her life. And I would gag to see my grandmother.

[Monet X Change]

I would like to see my dad there. But if my Aunt Hazel.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love your Aunt Hazel.

[Monet X Change]

Walk through those doors. The tears I would cry. The scream I would scrump. Would be insane if my beautiful, sweet Aunt Hazel walked to their door. And, y', all, she's so stunning, and she's such a little fashion diva.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's gorgeous. I'm obsessed with your Aunt Hazel. I think she's so fierce. I would love to see Aunt Hazel. Can you. Can. Can your Aunt Hazel walk in heels?

[Monet X Change]

I've never seen her walk in heels, but I don't think she has lupus, so she. She has bad joints, and ankles are a Joint, so probably not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, my grandmother had probably. She was like this much of a scootie.

[Monet X Change]

But my Aunt Faye can walk in heels. She's my other fashion aunt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like heels or heels?

[Monet X Change]

No, my Aunt Faye can walk in heels. Aunt Faye walks in heels. This is my father's sister. Aunt Faye is that girl. Aunt Faye really is like Aunt Faye and my Aunt Hazel are my two most fashionable aunts. And Aunt Faye is. She puts on heels. Aunt Hayes is more like a demure classy. And Aunt Faye is like tight clothes, big booty, tiny waist, hair covering one eye.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. You know a black lady is doing her big one. What when the hair come and give you this

[Monet X Change]

baby. That is my own Fae obsessed.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

So they get into the challenge and. And the parents show them in the workroom. Sam's mom is country. Sam's mom makes Sam look like she is from New York City.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They are very country people. They are. They are bump like, okay, y'. All. As a northerner, when I think of. When I was. When I think of Southern people, I thought all Southern people were like, Sam's mom and Sam. I thought that's what all Southern people were like. Black, white. I thought that was what Southern people were.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Sam's mom makes Trinity the tuck sound like she's from London. Okay. It's a very cute accent. A little triggering for me, being from the South. But it's a very cute accent, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And also, I will say, she came here. She bitch. She's basically practically wearing 301 lashes. Did you clog this?

[Monet X Change]

She's another woman girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Her lashes. She's wearing 301, y'.

[Monet X Change]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And 301s are the big drag lashes. Like, her. Her mom is wearing drag lashes out of drag.

[Monet X Change]

Well, she's like a Southern. She seems like a Southern city woman. Like. Like, I don't know where she's from, but it's g. Birmingham, Montgomery is giving. Mobile is giving. Like, one of the big cities in Alabama. It's not giving. Andalucia. It's not giving, you know, Biloxi, Mississippi, vibes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Got it. Yeah, I like her. Susie's mom is so reserved, and she's very, like, I feel like this. Y'.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

My mom off camera would acts like Sam's mom. Obviously not the country ness of it, but, like, big personality in front of the camera. She'll be Suzy's mom. And I mean. Yeah, Suzie's mom. And she's very. She's very, like, quiet. She's, like, very, like. She's this tiny, little, meek little lady. She's very cute, though.

[Monet X Change]

Who, your mom or Suzie's mom?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Su. Sorry. Suzie's mom.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. But Suzie's mom is. She's so sweet, and she just seems like. But Susie's mom. Every time I look over, I'm like, this poor lady. This is. This is not her thing. This is so clearly not Susie's mom's thing. And when I see what's going on with Susie and Suzanne, which it is so crazy to me that Susie just straight up stole her mom's name, Just straight up took her mom's actual name and was like, that was my drag name. Now they'd be like if my drag name was Martha Caldwell. That'd be crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Martha the Drag queen. Do what? Martha the Drag Queen.

[Monet X Change]

But I will say Susie's mom's last name is Toot, and Susie's name is Toots. So I guess that's where.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, Susie. I thought it was Susie Toot.

[Monet X Change]

No, Susie Toots.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Miss. What the fuck is this?

[Monet X Change]

Is that her mom? Who is this?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ms. Rose?

[Jacob]

This is a drag queen who has my mom's name.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, Rose Ritz.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Rose Ritz are screaming. That's hilarious. That's hilarious. Wait, wait. Susie's name is Susie Toots. Like, she's farting multiple times.

[Monet X Change]

Look it up, Jacob. Yeah, her name is Susie Toots. Like, she has.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, that's right, Bob. I think it's Susie Toots.

[Monet X Change]

Look it up. Jacob, you got the.

[Jacob]

No, Bob is absolutely right. That's crazy.

[Monet X Change]

The whole time, y' all didn't know that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I thought it was one toot. One toot.

[Monet X Change]

No, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Two toots.

[Monet X Change]

One Susie, two toots. These.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The names this season have been.

[Monet X Change]

They are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't. With the name Jewels. Multiple jewels. They're all sparkling. 1. Susie is farting twice.

[Monet X Change]

Mikey Stars.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't.

[Monet X Change]

You can and you will. You can and you will. But every time I look over her mom, she's just so, like. She's like. She's like, I don't have a lot of energy, and I can't really wear the heels. I was like, this sweet lady, but she is showing up for her son.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know, I know. And, like, later we talk about Susie. You know, Susie kind of discusses her relationship with her mom. Like, yeah, she's out and everything, but it's, you know, it's still. It's a little tepid. It's not like, you know, it's not like slamming her mom, which I think I love that the show is that the show shows. Well, I guess they're not choosing this. Like, you don't, you know, who's people's par or what they are, but they're showing the array. I mean, the spectrum of what acceptance looks like, right? Like, you can be, you know, like Lexi and her mom, who clearly have a thing. Or like Susie mom, who is accepting of her, but is kind of like at arm's length a little bit. And San's mom is all in, bitch. She doing drag herself. Like, I love the spectrum of openness we're seeing.

[Monet X Change]

I. I immediately said, Anya, nurse dad should name should be Robin Banks. And they said Roberta, but I can't remember what they said. But, like, Robin Banks. And I wish that Anya just let her dad do his thing. His name should be Robin Banks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Great name. And I was saying. I mean, Bob, they should have went to that. What is it called? The. The. The fabric wall back in the day. Whatever.

[Monet X Change]

The fabric wall. The. The mood wall. No, that's. That's. That's probably running away. I can't remember it. Fabric or Fabric World or something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Something. They should have fucking. If. If Anya would have scrapped her outfits, let her dad be Robin Banks and make two cat burglar, like, Catsu things,

[Monet X Change]

bitch, she would have went on to cancel. She told you she can't sew.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, she. She has Sewn, she sewed.

[Monet X Change]

She said she made her first outfit

[Bob the Drag Queen]

on Drag Race, the green one. She was almost won that week, the design challenge.

[Jacob]

I think she did. She didn't win that week. Didn't she?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, she was top two. She was top two. She didn't win.

[Monet X Change]

But she. But she was. Maybe she didn't feel confident because she was like, girl, I made my first outfit on Drag Race. She was like, I be sewing, but not outfits. What are you sewing? Pillowcases? What the are you sewing? Duvets? The. Are you making? Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Lexi's mom.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. And. And Jewel's dad is very attractive. I mean, Anya's dad is very attractive. I'm like, this guy is hot. So I'm glad that La Roach called it what you like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jules, dad is hot.

[Monet X Change]

No, no, you're doing too much. You're doing too much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You did. You're doing too much. You.

[Monet X Change]

No, you're doing too much. No, I mean, that is not what I said. You're doing too much. You're doing too much. Mr. Sausage. You're very. Mr. Sausage. You're very handsome.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Anya's dad is hot. He is very. He's very cute. If I happened to be incarcerated at the same time he was, I would definitely try to slide down his pole for sure.

[Monet X Change]

Why did Anya's dad say Viola Davis would handle the big boobs? Is. Is Viola Davis known for her giant boobs?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe the straight man. I don't know, girl.

[Monet X Change]

Like, do people be like, damn, biodiversity. Got some big ass titties. Is that a thing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you see that interview of her recently when she, like, apologized, like. Cause when they shot Ma Rainey's bottom, she admitted, like, I was so annoyed or upset at how, like, Chadwick Boseman, because his wife was there, they had scented candles to get him massages, and she didn't know that he was. Basically, they were preparing for his death. And she was like, I felt so bad that I was so annoyed by that.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway, did she voice her annoyance?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, she. She did. She just. She just did an interview with Variety and she talked about that like. No. Yeah, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Jacob]

Gang, Gang.

[Monet X Change]

Well, big on her to say that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Even what's her name apologized.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which.

[Monet X Change]

Which never. She never. About Jasmine Boseman. Jess. Hilarious.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did she really? What did she say about him?

[Monet X Change]

She made fun of him for being skinny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

God.

[Monet X Change]

I guess she does have big boobs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, wow. Yes, she does. Oh, wow. No, go down to the arm.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Look at that. All right, well, this is weird. I don't want to objectify. I mean, you look hot.

[Monet X Change]

Viola, at work, did you Google Viola Davis boot? What? Did you Google Viola Davis boobs? There it is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. Viola, she go to work.

[Monet X Change]

You got the girls out. Honey, did you know she had children?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did it? What?

[Monet X Change]

Did you know she had kid? I didn't know she had kids, no, but I didn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not. I guess I. I never thought about if she had kids or not. Like, I never.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So the next day, we come back in.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, wait, wait. Waxi's mom.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I had to start for Lexi's mama the next day, which is.

[Jacob]

Okay, go ahead, go ahead.

[Monet X Change]

The next day. Come back in. First of all, Jewel's dad is a pro. He is, like, so into this stuff.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, when he walked in the first day, he literally walked in. Hi, Queen.

[Monet X Change]

I was like, hi, questing queens.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, I love this straight faggot. I love a faggoty straight man.

[Monet X Change]

A straggit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A straggit. I love it, love it, love it, love it, love it.

[Monet X Change]

Lexi's mom was the thing that made me cry this episode. Lexi's mom using her proper pronouns and then correcting herself on tv. I think it's one thing that's really powerful that she used her daughter's pronouns. It's even more powerful that she made a mistake and corrected herself on tv. What a great example to be setting. I mean, I know that y' all are. Y' all are watching this a different day, but today is Trans day of visibility, and, like, what a remarkable thing to see on this specific day. It did not air on transient visibility. We're recording this on transient visibility, but, like, that was just so sickening to me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, shout out to TS Madison for opening her. Her house for trans girlies. Her transgender. I forget the name of the house. It's the. Anyway, go on TS Madison's page. It's called the Transgender something house, and she opened today on Transgender day of visibility, and it's so lovely to see. Also, shout out to Bob and your little. Not little. And your book tour looks. You look so cute.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you. And TS Madison actually did moderate my chat back in Atlanta, Georgia, and shout out to you, TS Mad. Thank you so much for that. Now every time the camera cuts over to Susie Toot's mom, Suzanne Toot, I am literally like, this poor woman. Like, every time I'm like, this poor

[Bob the Drag Queen]

woman, she's in pain.

[Monet X Change]

She does not want to be here. No, she doesn't want to do this. But she. But she's. But she's but she's not complaining.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's not.

[Monet X Change]

But it's all over her face, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Yeah. Her energy's definitely like, get me the fuck up out of here. But I'm here for my, my kid. I don't love my kid.

[Jacob]

She seems shy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You have the shy little lady and y', all, you're watching TV and you're seeing camera by camera. You're in that work room. There are six or eight cameras always floating around, getting tied up. Shots on you like this, in your face. Someone is micing you. They probably had to. They couldn't hear you because you. And you're not used to being on tv. So you probably had something like this. They're like, suzanne, can you put your hands on. It's like a lot.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I don't see anymore?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

[Monet X Change]

The camera from behind the mirror. I never see the angle anymore.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We do. We see it. We see it a couple times.

[Monet X Change]

I guess in my head, it's coming from the side. I don't know why.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, we've seen it several times this season.

[Monet X Change]

As they're painting in the workroom, I just think myself, Sam's mom, the makeup Sam doing to her mom is so good. Sam ate her mom like her just this. I'm like, wow, she really did her mom like, is that. Wait, did Sam say she's a, a wedding makeup artist? Did I make that up?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I, I, I don't know that to be true.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know. Maybe I made that up. But if she, if she's not, she could. Because that makeup, actually, even though it was quite draggy, it still looked really, really good on, on her mom. Her mom has, has a really great face for makeup.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, when, when she was painting her after Sam finished her mom, her mom was in the chair and Susie mom was next to her. She turned around. She literally legit, Legit had a jump scare as Susie's mom because Susie's mom look that white makeup. Well, anyway, we'll get to the end of the end.

[Monet X Change]

I'm white with a capital Y.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also rewind a little bit. The day when Anya Nunya business and Salachicha, when they were playing with the titties. Straight men, when straight men get to play with fake boobs. Every time straight dudes come on the show and they get to play with boobs for the first time, they are obsessed with it. They love it. I'm like, girl, get some.

[Monet X Change]

A lot of. When they ask if you woke up as a woman for a day, they're always like, look at. Play with my titties. They're always like. The first thing they do is like, play with my titties. Like, immediately I look at them. Look at my titties and play with my titties.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I guess, you know, if you

[Monet X Change]

woke up as a citizen to woman tomorrow, what do you think you'd do?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would take. I would want to take a mirror to my pussy. I know a lot of people. A lot of. A lot of people with vaginas will look at their vaginas. I want to see my vagina. What?

[Monet X Change]

It looks like you like, I'm going to spend my one day looking at my pussy. The whole day?

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, look at it. I wonder what kind of pussy I like. I wonder if I'd have a fat one. One that's just like kind of spilling out or one that's like.

[Monet X Change]

I think you have a very skinny pussy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You think so? Why?

[Monet X Change]

And it'd be kind of like the squiggly instead of like the big fat lips. And there's nothing wrong with squiggly pussy. This is not a read. It's just an observation. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you understand how I could. How I would feel like it's a read?

[Monet X Change]

I've seen a lot of squiggly pussy. I think they look beautiful. Because pussies can be squiggly sometimes. It's very common to have a squiggly pussy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So why can't I have this a straight up, a noun?

[Monet X Change]

Well, I just. There's not. I don't think pussy's comments up and down. There's like really. There's like really fat pussy lips.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what I want.

[Monet X Change]

And then there's like the squiggles.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So can you. Can you. I want you.

[Monet X Change]

You would have a Georgia o'. Keefe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what I want. No, no, I want.

[Monet X Change]

That's the squiggles.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I want a fat one. I want one that's spilling out.

[Monet X Change]

You're not. You're not gonna get it. Sorry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wonder if it's that thing. If you put like a suction device on it, like a vacuum on it. Like, can you pull it out a little bit or like swell? Like, you know how. You know how guys. How guys pump their dick?

[Monet X Change]

You can pump your pussy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I would definitely pump it. So it's like fat.

[Monet X Change]

Um, can we go on to these Runway looks?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Monet X Change]

My goodness. Ru motherfucking Paul.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Look.

[Monet X Change]

This is the best she has looked all season.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She looks great. This is a really cool outfit all season.

[Monet X Change]

This is a mother. Mark my words, this will be the promo look for next season.

[Jacob]

You think?

[Monet X Change]

Mark my words. Are y' all marking them? Are you marking them?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You think so?

[Monet X Change]

100%. This will be the promo look for next season. 100%. Without a shadow of a doubt, this will be the promo look for next season.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right. You hear it, yo, but I think this is going to be the promo look next season. I mean, she looks amazing.

[Monet X Change]

She's feeling herself too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, she. Look at that pose.

[Monet X Change]

Right? And everyone else also looks great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, doesn't the lady next. Doesn't the guest show. Doesn't she look like Jasmine to you?

[Monet X Change]

Jasmine from Gigi?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

You know, I didn't spend a lot of time with Jasmine, if I'm being fully honest with you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, it looks like Jasmine Rochelle to me.

[Monet X Change]

Let's go on to these family makeovers. Okay, first of all, I love this headpiece that Mimi Lovely is wearing. I love this headpiece. It looks so good to me. I think that her body looks fantastic. I think this outfit looks good. I disagree with Michelle. There is clearly a family resemblance here. Like, clearly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I agree. Plastique was right. The plastique wrote this out to me. The white corsets are taking me out. The white corsets are taking me out. If that corset was red and miss Things, Lexi's was pink, I think that would have been nicer. But the white corset, it's more jarring on the mom because the red and the white is so such a drastic, like change the light thing in the white. Okay, well, the white and red is shocking.

[Monet X Change]

When did plastic say that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When did pit stop?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, work.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah. And also, also to get your 61 year old mom on national television and have her ass out, albeit in tights or whatever. Fierce.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you said your mom be at be at carnival with her fucking ass out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She does.

[Monet X Change]

Is your mom not sexy though, is she?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, my mom's 60.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, gang, gang. Yeah, let's go. But, but I disagree with the theme that there's no family resemblance. Like, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, let's just say this, y', all, this, the judging on this fuck every fucking season. It's so arbitrary. Sometimes the rules they have for the, for this, this season, they don't do the next one. It's just, it's the most arbitrary, random. So I can't even. I'm not even going what they're saying because they just be saying shit.

[Monet X Change]

It's like what Michelle wants is you to have the same fabric. And I'm like, you can have a fan resemble without wearing the exact same fabric.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, but they knock people for having the same fabric, Bob. So you keep. That's not even a thing.

[Monet X Change]

Sam Star and Sassy Star both look so fantastic. These looks are great. Only thing that bothers me is that Sam's titties look sad and Sassy's titties look great. Sam's titties kind of like caved in in spots. Maybe they got crushed in the suitcase. But Sassy's titties look fan. These cones. These, like, Gaultier inspired cones. But you know the gay cone bra was invented by a black woman.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, you told me. You told us when you started working with Madonna.

[Jacob]

We got.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We. We here. We got.

[Monet X Change]

I did not find out with Madonna.

[Jacob]

Actually.

[Monet X Change]

I found out on the Internet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, we heard about it when you started working Madonna.

[Monet X Change]

Not true. Cause I only found out about, like, two weeks ago when the woman who actually invented it talked about it. So you didn't hear about it. So you made that up. I literally just found out about it less than a month ago.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, y'. All. Can y' all comment below? When Bob was doing Madonna tour, you told us about this cone bra. You told us about this cone bra at some point.

[Monet X Change]

No, I told you that I had the cone bra in my room. There was a day where the cone bra was in my hotel room with me back during the Pride show. And I don't know if they knew was in there, but I had an original Gaultier comb bra from the tour. Not hers, but, like, one of the dancers bra from the tour in my room with me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Got it.

[Monet X Change]

Like an original.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I apologize. All right, calm down.

[Jacob]

Slow down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Susanna.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. Yeah. Yes. Say you sorry again. Say it again so we can all hear.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyways, I thought this was so, so good. Oh, what do you think about this? So these were two outfits.

[Advertiser]

This.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

These outfits are from Chantel Sparkles, who is Trinity's other drag daughter, Samsar sister by via Trinity. What do you think about Sam Star having a lot of her. Her Runway looks from.

[Monet X Change]

Like, I don't want. Why would I. I don't care about that. Like, I don't understand the girls who are like. Like, who cares?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, I was Aiden saying it is saying got went off on the girls

[Monet X Change]

about that stuff hasn't been seen on Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

And like, why does everything on Drag Race need to be only worn one time? I don't understand. Like, it's the first time it's ever Been. I don't get it. These outfits look fantastic. Trinity is right. A lot of times the runways don't even count. These girls are going broke, taking out mortgages to go on Drag Race. When she has perfectly beautiful outfits that I personally have not seen. I've not seen Chantel Sparkers wear these outfits. They look fantastic. And even I have seen them. Who cares? These look great. Let's go on to. Let's go on to Suzanne Tooth. I know the girls were punching the air when Law Roach said, you are the most fashionable. Honestly, I was happy for Su in that moment because I was like this. That must feel so vindicating when everyone's like, you're garbage. Your outfits are garbage. You have no fashion. And she was like, law Roach said this from Law Roach that this is the most fashion forward outfit out here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just don't. I mean, looking at the outfits, yes, it is.

[Monet X Change]

Out of.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If I was looking at all five of these, shortest, most fashion forward outfit there. But I don't think that it's fashion forward that makes sense.

[Monet X Change]

I think that Susie's outfit is more fashionable than. Than her, than her, than Queenie's. But I will say Susie is going to prison for this padding on her mom. Susie is going to prison. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's wild.

[Monet X Change]

Has slim legs. Girl, you gotta trim the pads down, girl. She took the Astro Booty pads right off the shelf. Put it right on her mama. Girl, trim the motherfucking pads down for your mama. This is your mom, bitch. You put her on out in these streets with some curves and swerves.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Also, she could have gave her mom a petticoat. She didn't need to put her in hip pads in this kind of skirt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And the fucking makeup was so crazy. I just don't. Also, how is this Betty Boop?

[Monet X Change]

Do you know the curl on the hair, the black and white?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's it. That makes a bloody boop, I reckon.

[Monet X Change]

But also, it's. So this is the route that I did when we.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When we.

[Monet X Change]

When we had to do grayscale makeup. Because I. I don't have the skillset to do grayscale makeup. So I was like, I'm just gonna be a black and white clown. But I felt like Susie was trying to go for grayscale, but I guess it makes more sense because Betty Boop wouldn't be grayscale. She'd be, like, black and white. Like, literally black and white because it was a cartoon and not like an actual thing. But that being said, I actually like Susie's look. I think her outfit is actually really cute. I would wear these pants in real life, to be honest.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wear the pants overall. I just did not like this for the makeover thing. And again, how you gonna look like Lexi's mom and her and saying. There's no family resemblance to say. And they say. And you see it here. Like, I. This is what I mean. It'd be so arbitrary to make no sense.

[Monet X Change]

That should be because they're both in stripes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Lexi and her mom are literally in the same outfit.

[Monet X Change]

I agree that Lexi and her mom have family resemblance. I agree to that. I'm not Michelle. Don't take. I don't. I don't know what triggered you from which season of Drag Race you were on. I don't know what Michelle said to you, but, baby, it wasn't me. I have never been there when you filmed Drag Race. That was not. I have not critiqued you on Drag Race. It's when she said, save that smoke for visage.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's when she said that me and Tyler Oakley looked like we were coworkers and I was taking my little coworker Stacy out for dinner and I said, what the fuck?

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, you. Yeah. That was. That was. You was. You was biting back. You was getting your lick back on that one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go on to fucking Nana and Popo. The ice climbers. Jules Sparkles. That's all you.

[Monet X Change]

They do look like the fucking ice climbers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Fucking ice climbers, girl.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, that's hilarious. First of all, your dad said he wanted to reveal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know.

[Monet X Change]

And you. And we're so. Because we heard this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what I said.

[Monet X Change]

Now we're waiting for the reveal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what I said. She should never have told us about a reveal.

[Monet X Change]

Or. And obviously she had a reveal, so. Does her dad have one, too?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think he did. Maybe. Maybe the one for her dad didn't work out, so that's why they didn't do it. I can't imagine they make it work.

[Monet X Change]

Bitch. It's Drag Race. Figure it out. You give even. Give him. Pick one of your dresses. Borrow a dress from someone. If it doesn't fit, put him into something sparkly underneath or anything. Give this man. He said he wanted a reveal. This man said he wanted a reveal. You told us we wouldn't get a reveal. And this man walked out looking like. Like you said, like. Like ice climbers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just don't understand the point of view of this outfit. Like, even the furry. Like, I just. I. Yeah. This is wild. This is a wild choice girl for a makeover outfit.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. It does not. It is a bad look. This is a bad look. I was just waiting for the thing. It never came. I actually prefer the hair without the hood on.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

This is a bad look.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Let's go on to even a fucking worser look.

[Monet X Change]

Anya Nerves and Robin Banks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This fucking steel punk saloon girl. Anime Kawaii Harajuku. This was awful.

[Monet X Change]

This is not a good look. This is not a good. But also. But she was like, lana's gone. I'm gonna pick where she left off. Anya said, this is something I normally wouldn't do for myself. I said, is. What is. Is this. Is this a demon? Someone else possessed by a brand new shit demon?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's that movie you watched the other day at my house? Hereditary.

[Monet X Change]

The other day. It was like three months ago.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The other day. We talked about it.

[Jacob]

Technically was the other day. It was another day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The other day is up to three

[Monet X Change]

months, literally, when I. Other day. She said the other day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, the other day.

[Monet X Change]

But. But yeah, these looks are. It was. It was. What about hereditary?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because you're talking about the demon that passes.

[Monet X Change]

That's not what hereditary is. Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The demon.

[Jacob]

Yeah, that is what hereditary.

[Monet X Change]

That is it. No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Did it pass to him?

[Jacob]

Spoilers for hereditary. The demon goes from the grandmother and then it goes into Toni Collette and then Tony Collette. It goes from Tony Collette into the sun.

[Monet X Change]

I think it went straight to the. Cause it wasn't clear if the son had it the whole time or if Toni Collette was just viewing people differently. Like, the son thought he was like, okay, here's what the theory I saw online. The son, when she goes. All I get back is that fucking face on your face. Because he's actually making a face at people that he doesn't realize he's making.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's a theory that's up to interpretation.

[Jacob]

But either way, it's. The demon is hereditary. It's getting passed on from generation to generation. Even if it's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I am right. Thank you. Jacob, gather this fucking bald bitch.

[Monet X Change]

You're the one shining bitch. You balding bitch. Take off her hoodie, bitch. No, These looks are bad. I do not like. I do not like either one of these looks. I don't like this shiny corset. Like, if your corset has, like, a metallic quality to it, I'm more than likely not gonna. Unless it is like a. Unless it's like a RIP Abraham Levy type shiny corset.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, this is not good. I don't even. I don't. I don't even understand. I don't understand what the point of view was. I don't understand what they're supposed to be like. Like, I don't. I don't see the story. I don't get it. I don't want it. And I think it's bad. The makeup on the dad isn't terrible. The eye makeup isn't the best, but, you know, whatever. But the outfits are God awful.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. It looks like a queen who likes to do cosplay but then got into drag. But it still has a heavy cosplay influence. So she still does stuff like wears the corsets and wears the cosplay wigs. I don't like this look.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then she was cast in Back to the Future Part three, When They Go into the Wild Wild west and a small.

[Monet X Change]

And also did some background work on Westworld.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, so that's why she had this outfit. She's like, oh, I'm going to drag it. I'm going to wear this.

[Monet X Change]

Zoe Saldon's from Westworld, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, that's Thandi Newton.

[Monet X Change]

That's Sandy Newton.

[Jacob]

Sandy Newton is Maeve. She's the brothel owner.

[Monet X Change]

Got it. Does she look like Zoe Saldana?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, they're both light skinned, skinny black women. Okay, hold on to Zoe Saudana. Consider herself black, even though she looks black.

[Monet X Change]

She does. She looks out on. I had a whole speech. I'm the first black Dominican woman to ever have this thing. It's a whole thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But that's. I think that's after the Nina west debacle.

[Monet X Change]

Then maybe she understood that she was black. Maybe she was like, I am black. Yeah, they look alike. Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's someone else. Says her mom confuses her with. Not her mom screaming.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, See, I was like that woman. I was like, they look alike. I mean, sometimes people like, like some people just realize they're black down the line. It's okay to realize you're black because a lot. No shade. A lot of. You know this Monet, you're from New York City. A lot of people, especially Dominicans, are raised to believe they're not black, girl. They're raised to say, I'm not black. I'm Dominican.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

So, so maybe she's. Maybe she unlearned a lot of what she, what she was raised learning.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she's from New York and she's Dominican.

[Monet X Change]

There it is. These New York Dominicans will be blacker than Me be like, I'm not black. Fro. I'm not black. Wide nose, dark skin, big lips, Afro. I'm not black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm like, you know what?

[Monet X Change]

Don't be black then. Do you think you're. Do you think black people are native to the Dominican Republic? Like, black people are not.

[Jacob]

Y'.

[Monet X Change]

All. Do y' all know this? I have to say on a quick tangent, black people are not native to the Caribbean, y'. All. Black people were brought to the Carib. Every Native Jamaicans aren't black. Native Haitians aren't black. Anyway, So during the judging, we find out that Sam Star wins, and obviously she deserves it. She. For me, it wasn't even close.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I agree. I agree with that. And the bottom two are Anya Nerves and Jewel Sparkles.

[Monet X Change]

You know it's one nerve.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Onion.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, well, you thought it was Susie Tootsie. You thought it was Susie Toot. One toot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did know it was one nerve.

[Monet X Change]

She's get on one nerve. You get one chance.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it is one nerve.

[Monet X Change]

You get on a song. I thought about what you do one time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You think you.

[Monet X Change]

What a song. A song. I thought about, like, trying to sample and remix. And I saw. One more time. One more time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're going to celebrate.

[Monet X Change]

I want to be like you get to try me one more time. One more time. I'm on to throw some hands. Oh, yeah. All right. And get to swinging, y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All. This, this, this a little like being friends with all the drag queen. In the course of this podcast, you've. So you said about three ideas. You've. You've had what you want to do.

[Monet X Change]

But how funny would that song be? You could try me one more time anyway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you throw the pillow away?

[Monet X Change]

No, the pillow's over there. Okay. You miss it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I don't miss it. I don't miss that fucking pillow. I really don't. Don't put that pillow in this shot. I hate. Next time I go to your studio, I am. I'm.

[Monet X Change]

You miss her.

[Jacob]

This is a message to any fans of Monet X Change. If you are seeing Monet live in concert, please make her a pillow like this and bring it to the meet and greet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do not. Do not, please.

[Monet X Change]

That'd be so tight in a picture of her with her mouth open.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I hate that fucking pillow.

[Monet X Change]

It's so cute. By the way, someone in my office moved it. Otherwise, I would not have moved it because you know. You know me. Don't tell me you don't like Monet. I wore the fucking Purse, purse, impressions, wig for a whole season. Because one comment said they didn't like it. I said, oh, did you, baby? You're getting the wig.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me tell you something. The comments on YouTube would gather me so, you know, for the ugliest dress, Runway, pit stop. I wore the loosely Duke outfit. One comment, like, why would that. When the sponges were sitting in your house the whole time? I said, you know what? You not wrong. It's fuck you.

[Monet X Change]

Also, by the way, y'.

[Advertiser]

All.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, do you. Did you. Did you get rid of that dress?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The sponge dress?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I haven't.

[Monet X Change]

Because you thought about it once. I think I had to, like, talk you into keeping it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, I was always gonna keep the sponge dress. No, nigga, I was. Oh, I never want to. I told you. There is that fucking place in Florida that says they have my sponge. Royce. Every day I get tagged over, like, here I am in Florida. Look at Monet sponge. That is not my dress. My dress. I have my dress.

[Monet X Change]

So someone recreated the dress and said it was yours.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And it's on display at, like, the Game Museum in Florida.

[Monet X Change]

How do we know? How do we know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because first of all, look at how.

[Monet X Change]

Do you have a letter of authenticity?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, me. I am the letter of authenticity.

[Monet X Change]

So you think they would just lie? You think they would just make it up and lie?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, they're lying.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, sure, sure, Mo. They're just lying. Whatever, Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's continue.

[Monet X Change]

You display the dress.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

[Monet X Change]

Why don't you display. I display my dress?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. That's the dress you want in, right?

[Jacob]

I was trying to find the sponge dress in the museum, but I did find this picture of this fan art of your Dungeons and Dragons character wearing the sponge dress, which is really cunty.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Bob, trying to be funny n you.

[Jacob]

You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're displaying the dress you won in.

[Monet X Change]

I also display the dress. The I display the dress. Okay. You were safe in the sponge, right? I was safe in my pur. My purse. My purse. First dress.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where is it?

[Monet X Change]

I have it in my house, literally displayed in my living room.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But that's not the one. That's you. First of all, you sold the one. No, that is the.

[Monet X Change]

That is literally the dress and the. I. Do you know how much I paid for that purse? I had to buy my purse back. I sold it to this guy for charity. And, baby, when I tell you he extorted me. When I tell you I paid double what he paid me. When I tell you he strong armed me and made me buy it back and donate I did donate it to the AIDS life cycle. But, baby, when I tell you that man ran me over the coals for my purse.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what you get for selling it. You shouldn't have sold it.

[Monet X Change]

So that is indeed my dress. And there's a small chunk of the dress cut out, but I think I actually cut it out and re hemmed it. Cause I wore it for something else. But that is my original purse. First dress.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Bob. Okay. Also, y', all, Bob is acting like it's on a fucking mannequin in this home. It's like in a thing. It's flat. My sponges cannot be flattened. It's gonna be.

[Monet X Change]

I don't want that attitude. So you have a very large home. You can find a space.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Vava has it in a nice frame, like on.

[Monet X Change]

Aren't you getting your gaming roommate? Get it put in, like a big giant case or get, like a velvet rope around it. Get a huge piece of glass over it. Get a name plate. Get one of those lights that shines down on it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're ridiculous.

[Monet X Change]

That'd be so cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're so ridiculous.

[Monet X Change]

See, I think it's cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ah, your nerve. And Jules, the sparkles. They lip sync. And, you know, I have to say, I'm happy this is the first time Anya's lip syncing. Cause she's not a great lip syncer.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think she was bad. I mean, I do think that Jules was low key, eating her up. But then Anya did pull out some stops in the end. But I will say, watching this episode, I got pissed off a little bit, just for a second. Cause I was like, no one's going home. I knew I was looking at the judging, sitting with Taylor, and I was like, okay, Anya and Jules are gonna be in the bottom. No one's going home. I was like. I was like, this is gonna happen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How did you know? Like, what. Like, what's going on?

[Monet X Change]

I've been watching this show. I've watched every single episode of Drag Race. I am a drag race. I was like, her storyan. And I was like, I know what's gonna happen. I know what's. I know. I know how you play the game. And you were playing with the right one. That's right. Step out the game. And I was like, no one's going home. And Jules and I are gonna be in the bottom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I have to tell you, I was gagged. I mean, it do take nerve to kick something toward RuPaul direction. Like, I would not even have. I would. There's I would not do that. Cause I was like, I'm going to accidentally hit RuPaul and a red dot is gonna pop on my forehead. He's gonna fuck. I'm gonna be assassinated.

[Monet X Change]

Like, seemed to love it, though. I would have picked it up and punted it.

[Jacob]

Not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not me. Couldn't be me. Y' all are crazy.

[Monet X Change]

You think RuPaul know how to fight?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I don't think RuPaul. I think back in the day, she

[Monet X Change]

said RuPaul is spry. You see them kicks?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She be doing what kick? The one she did on the. The Christmas special.

[Monet X Change]

No, she be doing kicks. RuPaul be doing kicks. What kicks? She kick like this. She be doing this. She be like. Then I, like, bought my arms.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You love the. You love them.

[Monet X Change]

That's her move.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love RuPaul so much. There's. There's little RuPaul can do to be a. I love.

[Monet X Change]

Do you think someone joked and said that RuPaul didn't know she was doing your show till she showed up? Did she know she's doing your show?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not true.

[Monet X Change]

Who said that was like, oh, well, I'm here now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is not true.

[Monet X Change]

It's just a rumor I heard. You can debunk it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but. Yeah, I've always hated rumors. Nigga, give me the source. Nigga, you are the source.

[Monet X Change]

I didn't spread the rumor. Money. Have I ever been timid about. About telling you to your face how I feel? Never. Not once.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, you know, you never, you know, told me that. Yes. You've never come clean about spreading a rumor about me. No, you true. You've never done that.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Because it's never happened.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wise. You started that rumor. I never heard that before.

[Monet X Change]

Um, so there's a double Shantae. I'm actually really glad they both stayed because. Wow, this is a tough position because I do think someone's going home next week. I do not know who it is. It's probably going to be Jules Sparkles. Um, but it'd be sad because I think she's so good, and I think there are actually a few times where Jules could have won, where we could have justified a Jules win, but it just didn't go to her. Um, and I honestly think that. I don't know. I think I'm just. I'm a Jules fan, and I might be a bit of a Jules Sparkles apologist, um, because I think that she is the comedy queen of the season. And I love, in my opinion, Jules Sparkles is The comedy queen of the season.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She is the comedy queen of the season.

[Monet X Change]

She is. To me, watching her performance in all of the stuff she's done, she is the funniest queen of the season, in my opinion.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. They literally had an acting challenge. I think Ani Nerves has out comedy Jules for sure.

[Monet X Change]

Sure, there have been moments, but like in. In Snatch Game, I think Jules outcomed her for sure. The last challenge, which is, in my opinion, one of the hardest. Which in my opinion is one of the hardest comedy challenges.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You think Jules outperformed Anya in the Snatch Game?

[Monet X Change]

I do. That Bigfoot. Did you. That Bigfoot was brilliant.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Eddie went through it too. Her Muslim was.

[Monet X Change]

But I think. I think that Jules was better. I think that. I think Anya is a more well rounded queen. I think Anya is. Anya's better for Drag Race than Jules is. But I think that Jules Snatch Game was really funny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think Anya and Jules both volleyed equally in the Snatch Game. To me, I think we saw Anya's just raw talent again in an improv challenge last week or two weeks ago when Lana went home and Jules, it was an improv challenge for her, and she couldn't quite hit the mark.

[Monet X Change]

Like in the moment where Jules really won me over when she goes, oh, that's blood. Part of her shoe. Her feet. That was so you paying your totals. Oh, no, that's blood. That just sent me. That sent me to the moon. But then now I'm thinking about it, because she did kind of flop in the roast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She also flopped in the.

[Monet X Change]

In the. No, not in the RDR Live.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, she did.

[Monet X Change]

What was she again?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was the. What was she in the RDR Live also?

[Monet X Change]

She was great in the reading. Her reading challenge was really great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But in the role, she wasn't good. And that's just straight up comedy.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, well, maybe you're right. I'm thinking. Let me think about. I have to rewatch it. I've actually never rewatched the season unless I did it for a watcher. What a time did we do my season for watchery?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They stopped us. I think we did yours.

[Jacob]

No, we did. We stopped. We stopped at Monet's.

[Monet X Change]

That's when we were doing live watch parties.

[Jacob]

No, no, no. We.

[Monet X Change]

I.

[Jacob]

We also might have stopped because you got too sad watching Chi Chi, but I do think we watched all your season.

[Monet X Change]

It was sad. Yeah, it was sad. Cause she had. She had recently passed at that point.

[Jacob]

Yeah. But I think we have done watri for all of your season.

[Monet X Change]

I miss you too, but I think

[Jacob]

we stop with Monet's because Monet couldn't get over watching herself.

[Monet X Change]

Monet. Monet. Who is winning Sison 17 RuPaul Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not the Pit Stop. You can't ask that question every week. You want to be the pissed off.

[Monet X Change]

I ask that question all the time here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You want to be the pissed off so bad.

[Monet X Change]

Answer the question. I started that question, by the way. People didn't. I asked. I started that question.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just read what's on the cards.

[Monet X Change]

Anybody think Put it on the card. You're welcome, trailblazer. Pioneer. Pioneer that I am, the woman that I am.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've been saying it for weeks now. On your nerve for the win. On your nerve. On your nerve.

[Monet X Change]

On your nerve for the win. I agree as well. On your nerve, 4D win.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Head on over, y'. All. We're gonna go to our Patreon to do the untucked and talk about that. And with all the shenanigans that happened this week,

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