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Jacob
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Bob
1-800-contacts. We review RuPaul's Drag Race Season 18, Episode 11. There are. After this episode, there were only six queens left. We are getting down to the nitty gritty and at the very, very, very, very time episode. Can I say hello?
Jacob
Hello, everyone. Welcome to the podcast. Thank you.
Bob
No one has gone home, and the girls seem irritated. Cause they all think you should have gone home.
Jacob
Yeah, but I think it was. I wonder why people always have all these speculations about why y'.
Advertiser
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Jacob
It's never really because people did such a good job. The network orders a certain number of episodes and they have to fill that like. So Paramount off, they bought 16 episodes of Drag Race. So whether somebody goes, it's a double stay. Or they do an episode where they just remember all the lost girls, that's what they ordered. So it's not because it was just such a good. Even though it seemed like it was a such a good experience and RuPaul was really splitting hairs, they still have to fill out the number of results. So it's not this, like, crazy thing. I just want to just note that
Bob
I actually think that you might be underselling it because it could be a. It could be a number of things. They could still make it to that amount of episodes with a still eliminating girls. No one says it has to. So. So. So I think that they have the option to eliminate girls, and they chose not To. I don't think it was just like. Cause I think that the lazy set of thinking is like, production told them they had to leave a girl. I don't think it was like that. So I think that they could have. They actually could have eliminated a girl and still fulfilled all their episodes.
Jacob
And how?
Bob
By changing the number of the top people. It doesn't have to be a top three. It can be a top two. They can push the episodes down the line. That's why they can do double eliminations at a time. Like, it doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to be what we see as like a top four or top three. They can go to the finales however they want to. And they've proven that. They've gone with four. They've gone with. I think it's four the most or five of the most. They've gone with the finale with. I can't remember.
Jacob
5.
Guest
4.
Bob
They've done the top five.
Jacob
Who had a top five?
Bob
I think there was a top five ones. I can't remember what season, though.
Guest
Maybe it was.
Bob
What about Sasha's season? Sasha, Lux, Mistress.
Guest
Oh, sorry, Sasha. Oh, sorry, Sasha.
Jacob
Sasha. No, it's four of them. Sasha, Mistress, Luxx and whoop you. You don't remember either, so don't whoop me.
Bob
This is crazy.
Guest
Didn't the last one have a top five?
Bob
Who are you erasing?
Guest
Who are you? It was Jewel Sandstar. Oh, no, no.
Jacob
Oh, maybe it was diabetes season. Who won that Willow pill?
Guest
Daya, Betty, Willow, Daya, Lady Camden, Angeria's.
Bob
I can't remember.
Advertiser
Anyway.
Guest
Yeah. And Nigeria. That was the top five.
Bob
What I'm getting at is they could go to the finale however they want. They can go with two, they can go with three, they can go with one. So I think that I genuinely feel
Jacob
like the girls going into a finale like that is. Go ahead.
Bob
I do think the girls did a good job. And if there was one episode to actually not eliminating one, I would say that would be the one, to be honest Work.
Jacob
Um, and I mean, yeah, there wasn't really much. The girls are still. Oh, yeah. The girls are still harping on the Willow pill.
Bob
Someone just clarified. It was Willow pill, Bosco, Diabete and Jerry Akam. They went to the top five. They can do whatever they want, really.
Jacob
Okay. The top seven. Um, I. The girls are still harping on this Discord cheater. Do you. Do you. After having. After sitting with it for some time, do you think that Discord cheated?
Bob
No, I don't Think. I think Discord bent the rules. And I think if she cheated because it is a. There are legalities around the show, she would have been eliminated. And I think that she took some liberties. I think that what she did actually was punk rock. Someone pointed out y' all are screaming when the top. When the. When the punk rock girl breaks the rules or punk rock girls pushes the boundaries. I think she pushed the boundaries. Was it cheating when I did two Sasham characters were cheating. When lil mama from Seattle burlesque girl went down and her look was from the back was a casket, the other one wasn't. Is it cheating or. Yeah, Bosco. Is it cheating or is it pushing the boundaries? You know?
Jacob
Yeah, I don't think it was cheating. I don't think that top 12 of them, everyone in one episode. Sorry, I did the thing Cray dawn said. Top 12, Eliminate everyone in one episode.
Bob
And listen, guys, if you want to watch with us, you can join. Join our Patreon and our top tier and our top tier Patreon. You get to actually watch us record our podcast and we read their comments alongside with us. So let's keep moving on. So Nini Coco then asks Discord how she feels. And Discord says, all I heard was that Aman says that I should be a designer. And honestly, that is a great answer.
Jacob
To be honest.
Bob
That is a great answer. Like, y' all may have wanted me to go home, but Aman, who is a. Who is a supermodel who works in fashion and knows all the top designers, says I should be a designer. So honestly, I don't care. That would have been one of the moments. Like, it doesn't matter what y' all thought. That that went. That went past my head. When Iman said I should be a
Jacob
designer, the girl doesn't know my track record. And I think. Does Jane don't have one of the best track records ever? She has three wins.
Guest
Yeah, she's. She's beaten a record of most top placements in a row. And I think she extended the record this episode as well.
Jacob
And she's never had a bottom placement. Every placement has been high or win.
Guest
Yes.
Jacob
Josh. Jane don't has the best. I mean, Simone had five wins, I think her season, but she had two bottoms. So it's like. Like, how do you. I think this. I think a clean, like always high winning three. Maybe a fourth one. Jane Doan might have the best track record ever of any, but Bianca, always
Guest
Bianca, she's the longest. She has the record for the longest top streak. In Drag Race history work, she would have worked.
Bob
I mean, she's doing a fantastic job.
Jacob
Obviously. She is, but she.
Guest
She.
Jacob
She's doing such a good job that the girls are not even trying to compete with her. They're like, she's gonna be good. Like, it's like. It's like with Jane. Don't. Besides Mikey. The rest of them are just competing for a second. Like, that's the energy and the vibe at this point.
Bob
What's going on is that Discord and Darlene are the only two girls who do not have a win. And by the end of the episode. By the end of the episode, Discord is the only queen in the competition who does not have a win, which obviously does not bode well for Discord at all.
Jacob
I mean, but no, Cameron. Oh, no. Cameron Michaels won his episode by eight.
Bob
His.
Jacob
Yeah, I've told you this several times. You RuPaul Cameron Michaels. I call all of y' all his all the time.
Bob
Why? Cameron Michaels is not even her real name, but Cameron.
Jacob
Cause Cameron to me is a. Is a. Is a. I mean, I know call Cameron Diaz him. I'm about to say they are Cameron Diaz and stuff, but when I see Cameron Michaels also. Because Cameron's also. His whole thing is, I am the bodybuilder. Like, I'm the bro. E. Whatever. So I just. I go with him.
Bob
I was just wondering if Cameron Diaz got the same treatment.
Guest
All right, so what about Derrick Berry?
Jacob
Derrick Berry?
Guest
I don't know.
Bob
I don't really.
Jacob
I don't really talk about Derek often. I don't know what I would say about Derek. Do you. Do you are the queens that you. Him, Bob?
Bob
Not really. No. I mean, kind of. I mean, I hem you sometimes. I'll hem people sometimes, but not normally. I see her people who aren't even drag queens.
Jacob
Wait, you hear me about my drag name?
Bob
Yeah, n. What the fuck you gonna do about it?
Jacob
First of all, with your delayed ass camera, with your fucking cheap ass WI Fi and that fucking shitty ass building you at, nigga. First of all, Your mouth is 10 hours delayed from what the fuck we're hearing. So fix your shit before you come for us.
Bob
So what are you gonna do about it?
Jacob
What are you gonna do about it? Oh, no, we got to suffer through it. Everyone in the chat, me, Jacob J. We're all looking at you.
Bob
Struggle with you, sir.
Jacob
What are you gonna do about that? Oh, honey, that's. Oh, you can owe me one, honey, because the man is everything.
Guest
Comes into the workroom and announces the Mini challenge is all.
Bob
So the next day, Nene floats the idea to a couple of girls that a double elimination could be on the way. And everyone seems annoyed, which I find funny, because just a few minutes ago, y' all were annoyed that no one went home, and now y' all are thinking that Nene Coco is the gloomy. What do you call it? Dementor. What do you call the things that suck the room? The dementment. The mentor for acknowledging that there might be a double elimination coming up now. Nene's the devil. Yeah.
Jacob
Like, and we're gonna talk about this later. This, like, this. This negative Nene narrative that is a thing. Like, if this is her thing on Drag Race, it has not been portrayed to me through the screen. I have not felt this until this episode, everyone talking about it. But, yeah, I agree. I was like, it's not that crazy to see a double elimination might be coming. Like, everyone's acting. Like, she said, oh, well, you stink, and I'm gonna take a knife and gut you. Like, it's like, girl, it's like, not all that she.
Bob
They're making it sound like she said, well, someone could die today.
Jacob
Like, really. It was really a lot, which is crazy.
Bob
The second girl, they're all like, someone needs to go home. Someone needs to go home. And then she's like, let's do two at a time. And they were like, okay, you went too far.
Jacob
So RuPaul teases a challenge, and it's very interesting to me that this is
Bob
being a cookie challenge, so sponsored by Sigma.
Jacob
Hold on. I wasn't done.
Bob
Okay, let's do this.
Jacob
Ruth teases the challenge in, like, the little video thing, and then he comes in saying that there's going to be a mini challenge that. But it's. It's interesting to me knowing that from it's gonna be a roast, that they did the reading challenge last week and not the reading Challenge this week. To me, that's. That's so, like, those, to me, go hand in hand.
Bob
Has the reading challenge challenge ever been on the same episode as Roast?
Jacob
No, I'm saying, like, not. But. But they've been far enough apart. I'm like, why do we not. Like, why do not do the reading challenge for the roast episode?
Bob
Well, I didn't give it much thought. They do this. They do this scent bird challenge where they have to make ads for fragrances because this is so sponsored. I don't love it. Because they didn't let the girls get as dirty and filthy as they wanted to be. And they seemed also overly produced because they're. They have to look nice, right? So there's no quick drag. I don't know when these girls shot these. They are in full drag. They look fantastic. They start out of drag, they spray it, and then they go into these new looks. My favorite one was Kenya Pleaser saying, I like my wigs. Like, I like my relationships messy. That was my favorite one. I would have given the win to. To Kenya. Kenya Pleaser, but they gave it to Mikey Meeks, and she won $2,500, and she gets to choose the order of the toast to Alyssa Edwards.
Jacob
I don't remember what Mikey Meeks one was like. None of them. I didn't watch any of them. I think maybe Darlene was the one I chuckled at the most, but none of them that I wore stood out. Like, this was great. I didn't really give it a note.
Bob
So when they started writing, Darlene, you know, reveals that she has never done a roast before. She's never roasted anyone before.
Jacob
And Darlene, I think it was a roasting Alyss. For those who are the girls, this episode, they are roasting Alyssa Edwards. Last year was Plane Jane, Kandi, Muse, and somebody else. I like this. I like bringing back old draggers girls, and having them be roasted by the girls. I think that's fun because how many times are we gonna do the roast of Michelle, the roast of Carson, the roast of Rue? Like, I like that they bring back draggers girls.
Bob
And she's never gonna put us on the judges panel, so we might as well get to sit and get made fun of like we're on the judges panel. You know what I mean? So during this, Darlene realizes she's. Or tells everyone or at least tells Jane that she's never roasted anyone before. And Darlene's making herself laugh, but Jane is laughing, but it seems like she's laughing at her as opposed to laughing with her, but she's not being mean about it.
Jacob
Yeah. And Jane says. She says, I think that it's an essential that this. That roasting is an essential part of being a queen. Do you agree? I don't think so.
Bob
I would say it is quintessential queendom. Like, it is a staple with queens roasting and reading. But I wouldn't say it is an essential part, but I would say it is very par for the course. I would say that.
Jacob
I was gonna say not even queens. I feel just queer. People. Like, I feel like I learned about roasting and reading and shading each other. When I was in high school and with all my friends in ballroom, like, I feel like that's when I learned what reading and shade was. Not necessarily drag queens. I mean, just like a, like, queer culture. Like, shade, like, throwing shady thoughts. I don't know if it is.
Bob
I mean, we used to roast when I was a kid, but it wasn't queer. We were just. It was all the kids. We would all get around and roast each other. We loved roasting each other. But then as I got older, I do think that straight people are less bitchy and reedy to each other than queers. Than queer people are. I will say that. But not all queer people. There's some folks who are just, like, really sensitive. Like, some folks, like, just don't want to be read.
Jacob
Paige Turner.
Bob
Some folks do not want to be read. Even some queens don't want to be read, because they don't, you know. But no queens defense. They don't read either.
Jacob
You know, Kendall Pleaser says in her talking head, she said, you know, I think I'm a funny bitch. And I'm telling y', all the lack of. Of self confidence. She says this with. I'm like, girl, you don't even believe that you're a funny bitch. Like, I was like, girl, what.
Bob
I think that Kenya is operating from a place of humor often, but I don't think she's particularly funny. Yeah, but I think that she's. I think what's happening is Kenya says things. People acknowledge that it is a joke, and they laugh out of a social norm. They're like, ha, ha. Even though what she said wasn't particularly funny. I'm the awkward bitch who won't laugh when someone tells a joke. I don't think it's funny if I don't think it's funny. I just don't laugh at. I'll just look at you blankly. But a lot of people will laugh at the acknowledgement. Laugh at a joke as acknowledgement as opposed to actually laughing because the joke is funny.
Jacob
Yeah. So miss Mikey Meek gets to. As Bob said before, she won the mini challenge. So she gets to choose the order. And I've said this before, I say it every time. The order really does not matter. The order is really it. It's a reality beat to get people in their feelings. And what I think. But the order really doesn't matter, because I think if you're at a comedy club or if you're at a thing, something that's more official, the order will matter. But in a challenge on Drag Race, where the judges are there to laugh. If someone really bombs and you have to reset the room, sure. But I don't think the order really matters in these. If I'm being quite honest.
Bob
I agree. I don't think the set is long enough for it to matter. When a set is really long, when people are doing, like, 10 minutes each, then a set can. Then order can matter.
Jacob
You have a minute and 30 seconds, basically.
Bob
But here on Drag Race, I don't think it matters that much. And actually, the time it does matter is following someone really bad, because you actually. It is harder to follow someone who's bad than it is to follow someone who's good, because you can ride the waves of someone good. You do not want to ride the waves of someone who's doing poorly.
Jacob
On Drag Race or you mean in life?
Bob
On Drag Race or in life in general, if someone's bombing before you, you don't want to go up after them.
Jacob
I disagree. I think on Drag Race, if someone bombs before you and you are just anything, you're not the funniest or the best. Just you being not as bad as the bitch before you. Like, whoever went after Utica, if you are not that awkward and made the room so weird, you're gonna look better. You know what I'm saying? And Drag Race at a comedy show, I agree with you. But on Drag Race, I think going after someone that was really bad is good.
Bob
I mean, I've never done comedy on Drag Race in this format, like stand up or roasting. So I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I would. I wouldn't really have that context, to be honest. Let's go into the coaching. So Atsuko is the coach, which I love seeing Atsuko there. She's really. It's really exciting to see her.
Jacob
Wait, wait. Before you get there, when Miki's. Miki, when Mikey is talking about how she's gonna choose her order, she kind of like, I don't know. I'm gonna choose her. But then at the table read, when Michelle starts asking her questions about why she put who where she divulges, like, yeah, bitch, I did it strategically.
Bob
But I don't really understand the strategy. Like, I don't really personally get her strategy personally, but, I mean, it didn't hurt her.
Guest
I'll say that.
Bob
It didn't hurt her.
Jacob
I got it. I think that. I think. I mean, the only one. I got it, which I didn't. I don't see how Kenya didn't clock that this was Shady that Mikey put Kenya before her because I think Mikey knew that Kenya was not gonna do well and it would make Mikey shine because Mikey would do a good job. I think that's the one strategic, one play that may have worked for her, I guess.
Bob
I do not think following someone who's doing bad is good. As someone who's just been doing comedy for a while, there is no part of me that wants to go up after someone has absolutely just destroyed the vibe. There is no part of me I don't want no part in that. You know what I mean?
Jacob
No, I love that because then you get to make the. Literally the just you have a pocket full of jokes and be like, well, that was. Well, that person was shitty. Well after that bomb, you know what I mean? Like, I think that girl, like you have a built in arsenal of three or four jokes you can do.
Bob
I also, I also don't think those jokes are funny. That was something. I think that's a. I just think it's a really lazy joke and it's one of those jokes I think people are laughing at. There can be a moment where you're laughing and you're, you're acknowledging something we all see. But I think they're lazy. I don't think they're that funny. And it is the most expected joke in comedy. That was great. I don't think that juice is worth the squeeze. It's not worth it to go after someone who's doing terribly just to get that fucking joke in there.
Jacob
For me, I like them when the person instead of just saying something really vague like, well, that was bad. When they reference a specific part of their step that was bad. Like after Utica making a funny joke about it being bad but referencing the whale thing, I think that would. Then it's funny. But if it's just a basic, like, well, we. Well, well that. Well now, now onto from that bomb, like, okay, yeah, sure.
Bob
That's what we got today. That's literally what we got today. The table read crayon says the table read was kind of weird. I wouldn't want to say my jokes in front of the other queens. Let's go on to the table read then.
Jacob
So especially after the last season.
Bob
So Osco is, is coaching and judging on the judges panel. And Discord actually does pretty well at the roundtable. I think her jokes are landing. She's not like crushing it, but she's certainly not doing poorly, which I think is a good thing.
Jacob
Yeah, I agree.
Bob
Why did she change her joke about quickly what's her name? Or they may have just cut it. But that is an objectively funny joke. And either I don't know if she cut it or she changed it. It looked like the joke changed when it got to the thing. There's a chance that sometimes they cut. Sometimes they do cut the joke that they tell at the roundtable. Because you don't want to.
Jacob
Yeah, because you've heard them already. Yeah. Also, also, she may have, like, rewritten. She may have thought that she can make it. Punch it up and make it better on her own. Yeah. Nene does her jokes, and they're not landing at all. And, you know, I say this oftentimes. Everyone does not have to be good at everything on Drag Race. And Nene is good at so many other things on Drag Race. She is a great designer. She's a great performer. Her Wonder Woman show is great. She's shown a lot of places. Maybe comedy right now is just not her thing. So I'm not holding it against her. She's really good. But maybe comedy is just her bad girl.
Bob
I don't understand why she says she's trying to shrink herself. Like, I did not. I don't. I don't see what benefit you could possibly have in a competition where you're meant to stand out by trying to shrink yourself. That is, to me, that is a crazy goal to have to minimize yourself.
Jacob
Yeah. And I wrote down, like. Like, again, this narrative they're trying to tell that Nene. Like, Nene's talking about this, her relationship with the other girls, and I guess she's trying to say that she doesn't want to roast them in a roasting challenge because she doesn't want. Want to fuel the fire more that she says the awkward thing. I'm like, girl, I think it's a reach. I think it's a cop out. I think she's not good at telling jokes, and she's using this, like, vibe with the other girls because she doesn't want to be too mean to them. I'm like, girl, it's a fucking roast. Like, it is what it is. What are you talking about? You don't want, Like, I think it's a cop out.
Bob
The other girls are seconding what she's saying. It's not like Nene. Nene's not creating this narrative on her own. The other girl's like, yeah, she's weird. Her vibes are off. She doesn't read the room. So it's. So it's not in Nene's Head.
Jacob
No, it's not in Nene's head. But I think she's using that to be like, oh, yeah. Well, yeah, that's why I'm bad. Cause I don't want to be too mean. And also, Nene is very fucking smart. I'm like, girl, you know, it's a rose. Like, you can. You can make jokes. But I think she knows, like, this is what the girls have said. They've said it on camera. It is the thing. She's like, oh, yeah, let me say that I don't want to be too mean. That's why I'm not doing good in this one challenge, because I just. Because I just don't want them to think I'm too mean.
Bob
Nene, in my opinion, more like Nene, uh. Oh, that's how they act like she is negative. Nene. Here comes the, you know, Eeyore of Drag. Um, Juicy's latter joke is so weird. You know, she might as well just say, but enough about me being dropped on my head as a baby. That would be funnier than being like, but enough. But now I'll tell you later. I'll tell you the story about me being born from a ladder. But, like, I would just be like, but enough about me being dropped on my head as a child. That would make it way quicker.
Jacob
But in her mind, all right, she's not a comedian. She doesn't write jokes. Maybe she just thought that she needs to paint the picture more for it to be funny and bless her. But, yeah, that was a really, really strange joke.
Bob
Sierra Cruz says Monet can't believe a girl. A girl, actually. I can't believe a girl actually sucks at a challenge. Maybe she just sucks and she just is bad. It's just bad because I don't know if she said she was holding back because she also didn't acknowledge that she was a great comedian. Um, and this one I wrote. I didn't realize that. I didn't realize the girls thought Nene was shady. I guess it just has not been shown on the show. I did not realize that Nene is an awkward downer. Was part of the experience on RuPaul's Drag Race season 18.
Jacob
Yeah, I agree. I didn't get that at all. Um, that's all. And Mikey. And Mikey was. Mikey was good. I thought this was weird. Like, Mikey had a. She had some good jokes. It was good. It's crazy to me that she went back home and reaction, maybe not redid her set, but she, like, obsessed and, like, I guess. Yeah, she. She rewrote a lot of her jokes to me. That's crazy. It's acting like she had, like, an indie experience. Atsuko and Michelle both said, great job. That's funny. Why would you go home and re. Rework. Rework the material.
Bob
Well, as Mikey said, while they were getting ready to do their makeup, Mikey said she woke up on the wrong side of the bed. She's in a bad mood, and maybe she's woke up not feeling good. She was like, maybe she's, you know, somebody wake up in a bad mood, and you're just like, I don't know. I'm not feeling good. You wake up feeling negative, and you're
Jacob
like, maybe she had the Nene Coco
Bob
soundtrack playing in her head, and she
Jacob
was like, this is all shit. Everyone hates me.
Bob
We're all gonna die. There's gonna be a double elimination.
Jacob
Yeah. When I wake up on the wrong side of bed, I hate. Sometimes I hate the kitchen counter cabinet I chose. I don't wake up in a bad mood, take a sledgehammer and destroy my whole kitchen. Like, well, I hate it. Move on.
Bob
You gonna read that?
Jacob
Damon Joseph said, and I'm talking about. He said, wait, Jacob, put it back. Jamie Joseph said, in a dug. Mikey said, I wanted to wear something gorgeous. And Nene lightly joked, so why'd you wear that? And everyone acted like she took Mikey up back and shot her.
Bob
Like, do the girls not. Do the girls just not like Nene?
Jacob
I think that Nene is very talented
Bob
and maybe shadier stuff than Nene does. But I will say Jane was funnier.
Jacob
I will say, then they need to not be on a season with Mistress Isabel Brooks, because they would have unalived themselves. Mistress would have been there 13th, 14th, and 15th.
Bob
Reasons, well, Jane does go check in on Nini. I think she gave some good advice about navigating, like, how to be a little bitchy, but having the girls still like her, because Jane seems to have figured this out. Like, Jane is a little bitchy, and the girls really like her. So I would say that Jane was very sisterly. She was a sister, and she went over and gave Nene a little pep talk.
Jacob
Yeah, I agree. I wrote that. I wrote that one too. And Jane gave a really good pep talk. Pep talk.
Bob
You want to get into the challenge?
Guest
Yeah.
Jacob
Yes. Let's get into the challenge.
Bob
All right, I'll start by saying, Alyssa Edwards looks fantastic.
Jacob
Girl, I think this look is great.
Bob
I love this wig. I love this. This silhouette. This dress just looks amazing. She looks phenomenal.
Jacob
Yeah. Alyssa looks incredible. Her legs. Her leg looks amazing. This. Yeah, she looks divine. I love Alyssa. I bet the moles are good, too.
Bob
I can't be sure, but I bet the other leg looks good, too.
Jacob
I can't be sure, but I can't confirm, but probably.
Bob
Let's go on to our first queen who goes up with Discord. I think what you wear does matter, and I don't think this is crazy enough to make it awkward, but it is a little bizarre.
Jacob
It is really weird. It's such. It's so weird. This bitch refuses to wear a corset. She will not wear a corset ever. She hates it. This outfit, it was distracting to look at because I was like, what is this bodice? What am I looking at? And I said, the only thing stiffer than Discord's walk is her delivery. She is so stiff in this delivery. I'm like, even when she was at the table read, she felt more comfortable. I guess that makes sense why you would feel more comfortable at the table reading just Michelle and Atsuko. Now RuPaul is staring at you like this. So I get it because you're in drag.
Bob
Physically uncomfortable.
Jacob
Yeah. Well, is she uncomfortable? She had no damn corset on. What the fuck she uncomfortable about? But her delivery was so stiff. And I think that if she just worked on her delivery, I actually think she had funny material. It was just so stiff and so robotic. And her cadence and the way she delivered the jokes was just weird. I.
Bob
So first of all, I thought her toast was actually pretty good. Her little toast she did about Come on her. And something about Michelle. Yeah, but the issue with her delivery, that she's. You can see that she's literally. Literally reading like. She's literally like. And then that was the. That. That was what it sounded like, which I don't think was cool. I don't. I think that was a big part of the problem. Um, and then at some point, she. She was like. She made a joke about Kenya Pleaser reading the menu at California Pizza Kitchen. No. Cheesecake Factory.
Jacob
She's getting back there. Which I thought was funny.
Bob
And then Kenya goes, cause I'm fat? I wish she responded, no, cause you can't read. That's what I thought would have been a great way to one up it. You know what I mean? Yeah, but. But she didn't. I don't think she had that.
Guest
That quick.
Bob
But I think the main issue with her set was really her delivery. Guys think of. Think of jokes like food. If the delivery is Poor. It's gonna get there cold. You know, everyone's gonna be in a bad mood eating it. Like, the delivery is as important as the food itself, quite frankly.
Jacob
Yeah, I agree. Let's move on to our next scene. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Sorry, Jay for pay says something about Discord's comedy just gives. I think that everything I'm saying is the funniest thing that anyone's ever said. I don't. I don't. I don't think. I don't. I mean, she is delusional. And she has said many times, every time everyone says she's in the bottom, she's like, actually, no, I wasn't. So she is illusional. I would hope she's not that delusional about her comedy. But, you know, who knows? I don't know this girl.
Bob
Let's go into Jane. Don't. This look is perfectly fine. I think the judges were kind of glazing this look a little bit. This is a perfectly fine look. Michelle was like that stunning red. Like, she looks nice.
Jacob
Yeah, that looks good, y'.
Bob
All.
Jacob
I'm sorry. This was my winner. We're gonna get to who the winner was. I thought Jane fucking killed it. Her jokes were so good. The one about RuPaul is so old. The first time she. She said why I gotta be black? She's talking about the plague. Was funny. Michelle was seven on Strictly Come Dancing first and Strictly Come Guzzling. So good. Julie Love Dion being the.
Bob
The only.
Jacob
The one child George Bush left by.
Bob
It was a really great set. These were really funny jokes she did. She had the best writing.
Jacob
Yes.
Bob
She seemed most comfortable. It never sounded like she was reading.
Jacob
Yeah, this was.
Bob
This was great.
Jacob
This was so good. It's like, in my opinion, Leap Like Lightyear is beyond everyone else. But I'm not a judge on RuPaul's Dragger Season 18.
Bob
Let's go to our next girl, Juicy Love. Dion, can I ask what is a bichon fleece? What is that?
Jacob
I don't know.
Guest
Is it a, like, a white poodle, like, dog? Let me.
Jacob
Oh, it's her dog.
Bob
So she's saying you were her fairy
Guest
Godmother, and Shrek 2 has one.
Jacob
I don't remember that.
Guest
There we go.
Jacob
Oh, that dog. Oh, wow.
Bob
Yeah. That was a bad joke.
Jacob
Her jokes were really sad. It was a bad joke.
Bob
I mean, the biggest laugh of her set was Alyssa's comeback about taking more than three times the winner. She was like, from looks, girl, you don't take more than three times. That was the biggest when the biggest laugh from your set is someone else tagging your joke. This is not. This is not a great moment. I will say, love this hair on her.
Jacob
Weren't you on one a few weeks ago? You were saying that you don't like her with big hair or long hair. Wasn't that you?
Bob
No, I think I just didn't like her in that hair. But she looks good in this hair.
Jacob
Yeah, I think. I think big hair looks nice on her. I really do. I don't remember what this outfit fully was, but looking at hair, I don't like it. But maybe it was cool, though. The podium is in the way a little bit, you know?
Bob
Let's go on to our next queen, shall we?
Jacob
Yeah. Up next, Darlene mc, smoking crack, shooting meth, boof and coke up my booty hole. I did not understand the hype around this performance. I was like, maybe I am dumb and I just don't get it. The way everyone on the stage was guffawing, cackling, falling over. The judges are on the table, like, snapping, crackling, popping, back flipping. I was like, was it really that good? I was so curious what you thought about this performance.
Bob
This might be one of those moments where they know Darlene should have won two challenges by now that they stole from her and gave to someone else. She should have won this last design challenge. And maybe this is one of those Oscars that they give you after you didn't do as. Maybe it's one of those moments. You know what I mean? Maybe that's what's happening here. I don't think she was bad. I think that she was. I genuinely think she was solidly safe. I do think, though, that whenever someone's at a roast, and I've seen this in real roast too, and they're not good at roasting and they choose to do, like, some alt joke bit. I don't love it. I don't love when, like, what's his name? From Lonely Island. He was on snl.
Jacob
Lonely Island. What show is that?
Guest
Andy Adam. Andy Sandberg. Andy Sandberg.
Bob
Andy Sandberg. Andy Sandberg did a set like this at a roast where he. He went to do a roast, and instead he was just being really, really nice. He was like, I can't remember who it was. He was like, he's so nice. He took me to dinner and paid for the bill burn.
Jacob
And I was like, oh, I remember this. It was on one of the roasts.
Bob
Yeah. And the bit was funny, but it feels like. It feels like a cop out. It Feels like maybe you shouldn't have taken this gig.
Jacob
Yeah.
Bob
You know what I mean?
Jacob
I was so irritated. I was so irritated by this pulling all the fucking. I did not think the banana or the fucking purse was funny. I did not think the burger was. I did not think it was. I was like, bitch, this burger was funny.
Bob
I thought the burger was funny. I like where she goes, but I can't see it. Takes a glass off, and then she goes, a burger. That was pretty funny to me. It kind of reminds me of this bit that Bo Burnham used to do where he'd be like, my dad always accuses me of being gay. And then he takes a fistful of glitter and goes, what do you mean? Like, that little moment is really funny to me. I do think she took it a little to a moment where I didn't think they were all funny, but I also didn't.
Jacob
Clown nose. The clown nose.
Bob
The moments I liked were the burger, the clown nose, and the shoe at the end. Those were the three I liked. The banana was really not funny to me at all.
Jacob
The shoe was the only thing I was funny because we had a reference for that. The Misha hunted. Whatever. The burger and I think was funny. The banana, I thought was funny and the clown nose. I was like. I was like, now that you come in to do your roast with all these props and like, yes, we do, like a. I do like a character for us. I don't mind doing a character or whatever, but, like, Coco Montrese being RuPaul's cousin. But I don't like. I did not. I did not get this. I was so irritated by this. And I'm like, this is. Remember when they gave. They. Did Lexi win or. Lexi was supposed to do something, and they were like, ugh.
Bob
The Snatch Game. She didn't win, though.
Jacob
All right, Gilbert Godfrey. But she got high praise for bombing the Snatch Game. I'm like, what are you talking about? She wasn't even a character. This is literally like a character game.
Bob
I agree. I don't think she should have won this challenge. I think she should have won last week. And I think that, oh, the gerbils are off the table.
Jacob
Business.
Bob
Jln. So she goes. Something I've gathered from spending the time with you, RuPaul, that gerbils are not off the table. That is a pretty funny bit as well, if you don't know. That's a reference to people gerbiling, which is where you take a gerbil, put it in the condom, put up your asshole, which there's actually no confirmed cases of it ever happening anywhere. Um, but that. That was a funny bit. So I. I don't think that she deserved to win, but I do think she deserved to be solidly safe.
Jacob
Yeah, I would have been safe. Winning was crazy.
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Bob
You want to move on to Nene Coco?
Jacob
Let's go on to Lanifia Coco.
Bob
Okay. A really odd moment in this. I think this outfit is cute. It's fine. A moment I thought was really weird is when she said. And she was like, asuka, who does your hair? I want to avoid them. And someone goes, aw, come on.
Jacob
Who said that? I didn't hear that. I don't know.
Bob
It didn't say who it was. It just showed her being like, show me. I want to find out who did your hair so I can avoid them. And then someone goes, oh, come on. And I was like, why are they trying to build this narrative? This is crazy. This is a roast. She can't say she wants to avoid Atsuko's hairstylist. This is ins, y'.
Jacob
All.
Bob
We're doing too much. We're doing too much, y'. All. Did anyone else catch that? Oh, come on.
Jacob
I don't know.
Guest
I was like.
Bob
I was like, this is crazy. Y' all are doing way too much now. Y' all are. Y' all are doing too much to push this. Nini Coco is awkward. Awkward situation.
Jacob
Yeah, Michelle said it. Okay, whatever. Yeah, I think it was. I think again, her set was not great. It was fine. Um, I think it was perfectly low safe, I think. I think her placement she got was. Was fine. There was no joke of note that stuck out to me. Um, and this outfit was interesting. It's so weird seeing her. This hair is weird on her because she's. I don't know. She. Something's afoot here. I don't know what it is.
Bob
Can I see?
Jacob
You know, no titties. The titties. She got no titties on those. And those pointy shoulders.
Bob
You said she had the time. Can I say what's really weird is something. There's a thing on reality TV now where they don't outright call someone autistic, but they really strongly insinuate it. And I feel like there's a strong insinuation that during this episode that Nini Coco doesn't pick up on social cues. She doesn't know how to read the room. She doesn't understand when people are having a good time and they feel like there's, like, an insinuation that Nene Coco is a little tizzy.
Jacob
Well, I mean, albeit. I think that, you know, she's a bad comedian. She's not funny.
Bob
And there are some very hilarious autistic people. Let's go.
Jacob
Autistic. Some of my best friends are hilarious autistic people.
Bob
Let's move on to another very unfunny person. Kenya Pleaser.
Jacob
Bob, come on.
Guest
She was.
Bob
Oh, she wasn't.
Advertiser
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Bob
Oh, come on. First of all, she looks amazing.
Jacob
She does look good. I mean, I don't remember the dress, but was she the one that spilled her cocktail as soon as she got up?
Guest
Was that her?
Bob
It was discord.
Jacob
No, it's. Oh, yeah. Maybe it was a discord. Yeah, she does look beautiful. I mean, all the times that she wanted to look like Lizzo, now she look like Lizzo.
Bob
Okay, can I. Okay, so she does this thing that I really don't like when comedians do, which is when your joke's not working, and then you try to tag it in real time. Like, she'll tell a joke and the joke bombs. And then she goes, am I right, girl? That's what I'm saying. You know what I'm talking about? But she don't know what's going on. I hate that shit. That shit. It's like, girl, just let it die. You're dragging. You're putting the joke on life support. And we wanted to watch her pass
Jacob
away quietly, which was crazy, because her. What am I saying? Her table read. She did a good job. The table read Again, she wasn't like, knee slap. Oh, my God. It's the funniest person lie. But the pacing was good and the jokes were funny. She got on that stage and she flipped the script on herself and bombed. Bomb, bombed, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bombed. And I was. I was gagged. Cause I thought. I thought that we were gonna get a gag, that Kenya was actually gonna impress us and be, like, safe, maybe in the top. But because of the table read and. But yeah, she. It was not great.
Bob
I think what's really gagging me is that no one had any reads about Kenya Pleaser. Not knowing the words. I am genuinely shocked that no. Or at least it didn't air. Like, the fact that Kenya Pizer has known so few words. Including this episode. Including this episode.
Jacob
I think she has a thing with. I think she has a memory. And as someone who suffers with memory problems, I can. I get it.
Bob
That's beside the point. She doesn't know the words.
Jacob
Okay, it is part of the point. But I'm not knowing the words because you can't remember.
Bob
But that's beside the point. She needs to know the words. This is. We need to. This is. This is the lip sync. Valentina, we need to see your face.
Jacob
Like I said, Ashana said. At least she didn't mention fried chicken. Were you happy about that, Bob?
Bob
I did enjoy that, yes. And I. But my favorite part was her doing the Rigor Morris Nigamora's joke. And that cuts to RuPaul just blankly staring at her. She was like, rigga mor. Can you call us something else? I was like, what'd she call us? Go back, y', all, and watch. It's just RuPaul.
Jacob
Oh, my God. I'm getting a second hand embarrassment again. Because I was watching it. I rarely cringe and, like, have to look away from the TV. I had to look away from the TV. I had to look away from the TV because I felt so uncomfortable. Cause RuPaul was not engaging. The only other black person in the room. RuPaul was not engaging. I was like, nigga, come on, just throw her a bone, girl.
Bob
But then she tries to. Cause she does the thing and tried to tag it. She goes, rigor Morris. I was like, rigor Morris. And then RuPaul doesn't go. She goes, what? I was like, what she call us? And then RuPaul's staring. She goes. Cause you know. Cause I was like, they were Paul. Just like, RuPaul.
Jacob
Like, she. She ain't talking to me.
Bob
That.
Jacob
I think RuPaul could give her just at least a smirk. Girl, I was so uncomfortable. I was so uncomfortable.
Bob
Like, Jesus. Jesus Christ.
Jacob
It was rough. Let's go on to our last. Oh, go ahead.
Bob
Let's go on to. No, there's two Mikey Meeks.
Jacob
Yeah. Um, I think Mikey looks great.
Bob
Mikey looks great. Can we go ahead and just say right now that Mikey meets almost across the board. Actually, I can't think of a single time Mikey has ever not looked fantastic on this season.
Jacob
I think her entrance was her and was. I think. I think our entrance was weird. But anyway, um, yeah, I thought Mikey was great. I mean, from the time I we found out it was a roast challenge, I knew she looks great. I look good.
Bob
Mikey always looks good. Mikey is a stunning queen. She looks great every time she's on that goddamn stage. If she's on the camera, if she's in a challenge, she looks good every fucking time.
Jacob
Well, let's see. I just see Bendelacreme. I see Mikey, Mickey. I just see Bendelacreme out of drag. I mean, in drag.
Bob
I'm not gonna lie to you guys. I still see an Asian woman and I'm so sorry. I cannot figure out what it is about her. That looks Asian to me.
Jacob
No, I agree. I agree with you. I see Asians.
Bob
I cannot figure it out.
Jacob
But I think that from the time we knew it was a roast, I knew Jane and Mikey wouldn't be the best ones there. And I still think they were. And I think Mikey did not disappoint. I think she had great jokes. Grace, like Grace Jones great jokes. I think her referencing herself by doing her smash game Drew Barrymore character with Ross Matthews. The Ross Matthews bit was funny. I thought Mikey did a stand up job. She was so good at the roast.
Bob
She found out how to do a little bit, but not take it too far. She did it just enough times, and I think she had one of the best jokes of the evening. A trade war for Alyssa is when her trade. When her trick finds out she's the top bitch.
Jacob
So good.
Bob
Okay, whoa, whoa, whoa. Not too much. Hold on. Not too much. Okay, now y' all doing too much. Peyton Rickey says episode idea, Roast of Bomo.
Jacob
Honestly, should we do the roasted Momo?
Bob
But half the cast roast Bob and half the cast roast Monet. And the opposite person does. The table reads.
Jacob
The table reads.
Guest
So you. Would you.
Bob
So you. So half the cast is roasting me. Half the cast is roasting you. You're with the cast roasting me and I'm with the cast Roasting you.
Jacob
Oh, that's cute. That would be a good idea, Bob. Should we do that? We can do like a. We can do it at a venue here in la.
Bob
Oh, you don't. You don't want a picture of the world wonder?
Jacob
No, thank you. I'll pass.
Bob
Damn. Damn. Now they're never gonna give you the hosting position. You were actually being considered for the next host, and now that you said that, they'll never call you toots anyway.
Jacob
Yes. I thought Mikey killed it, but there's no surprise. Like. But okay, who do you. Do you. Do you like me? Do you get the sense that the girls are competing for second besides Mikey?
Bob
Yeah, maybe besides Mikey. I think that. I think, in my opinion, Mikey's gonna win this season. Mikey should win this season. She has proven you think Mikey's doing
Jacob
a better job than Jane Doanes.
Bob
I do.
Guest
Really?
Bob
I think.
Jacob
What is she just.
Bob
She's just more for me. She's just more for me. I'm more interested in what Mikey does than what Jane don't does, to be honest. Maybe that's. I don't. I don't know what it is. I just think she's. You know what it is? She's better in the. I think she's better in the acting challenges. Jane is good in the acting challenges. I think Mikey's better also. Watching Mikey essentially coach Juicy through the thing showed a lot about Mikey's talents, like, and how she views comedy, how she views people on stage. I just think she's really good.
Jacob
I think that on paper, I think Janie's done a good job. I think I've liked more of what Jane has worn on the runways as well. I think that Jane is up there with Nina Coco as two. And honestly, she hasn't drag racing in a really long time. I've just really been impressed with Jane's entire overall package of her clothes. I think she's so fucking talented. She's very smart. She's a very funny person. I think she had the best roast hair. And her acting, I think, is great. I do think, personality wise, I do like Mikey Meeks more like not saying I wouldn't be friends with her. Jane, don't. But if I had two phones, I could only text one of these girls ever. I would choose Mikey over Jane. But I do think Jane is in for the competition doing a better job. I do.
Bob
Also, if Jane wins Drag Race, we'll all suffer for her.
Jacob
Okay, let's move on.
Bob
Since you mentioned Jane's amazing looks, let's Talk about some looks on the Runway. Okay.
Jacob
Transition. Oh, so you transitioning now?
Bob
There it is. Let's wear these looks. I love. RuPaul is wearing a tall shoe.
Jacob
This fucking outfit. Henry. That tall bitch came across that thing. I said RuPaul better work. This is such a cool look.
Bob
Yeah. And everyone looks great. I have no critiques for anyone. Everyone looks fantastic. I love this hair on Ru. This is her coronavirus hair. I call this her coronavirus hair. It looks great. Let's go on to the next one.
Jacob
Let's go on to the first Discord. Awful.
Bob
Awful rule.
Jacob
And the category was. What was it? It was blowing the wind.
Bob
Swept Away. Swept Away.
Jacob
So they had, like, a big ass fan at the end of the Runway. So the girls were prompted with, your outfit needs to blow in the Runway. I don't know if they knew they'd have fans, but that was a prompt that they told them they had to have.
Bob
So it looks like she's doing, like, a Mugler nod. You think this is awful.
Jacob
I did not like this. I did not like this.
Bob
You think it's awful?
Jacob
Yes. I did not like it.
Bob
Interesting. I think she looks. I think this is a cool look. It's not like a blow away, but I think she looks good. I think it's an interesting look. I don't agree with Michelle that it wasn't blowing in the wind. It is structured, and it's blowing in the wind. This is every bit as structured as the wings on Kenya's outfit. So I don't understand why. Maybe it's because it's connected. Because I saw Win moving through it. But I think she. I like this look. It's not like a knockout, but I think this is honestly a really cool. Oh, she said that too. Let's go. Let's move on to our next look. So Michelle Grammar said Kings boys weren't boring either. Let's go on to Jane. Don't.
Jacob
I thought this was good. I was. I was, like, blown away by it, but I thought it was good. I thought it was a.
Bob
What are you.
Jacob
I can't believe.
Bob
Is it opposite day? This looks amazing.
Jacob
I thought it was good. I wasn't. I didn't think it was like a knockout. I thought it was good.
Bob
What's happening today.
Jacob
Because she went more with, like, a street sweeper. Swept Away. She was like, I'm gonna clean the stage. Not blowing the wind.
Bob
I think this looks really cool. She looks like someone in one of those old Bob Mackie video set dresses or outfits. This looks like this looks so cool. If I saw this, it would just in person, I would be like, my God, this looks amazing to me. I really, really, really like this look. I think she looks amazing. I love this headpiece. I love these. The fringe on the sleeves. I love the fringe on the leotard. I love this look. This look is fantastic.
Jacob
Yeah, I don't love this. I thought it was fine.
Bob
Let's move on to our next one. Next we have. Okay, I have a big problem with this outfit. How is that piece connected to this outfit? Not physically, thematically.
Jacob
Oh, yeah, I would agree with that. Maybe even just changing the color to be something in this, like, fiery color would have been, like, made more sense, but, like, just this white level of
Bob
design in it too. Can we get an applique, a rhinestone? It literally looks like she got dressed, laid down, grabbed a fitted sheet, and then ran to the stage.
Jacob
It did look like a fitted sheet. It really did.
Bob
Why were they gagging for this? I'm so. I'm so confused. I'm so confused.
Jacob
Also, girl, throw on some pads and some titties.
Bob
I hated this thing. And the problem is that it actually looks really cool. It's a really cool effect, but we can't get any element of design in that thing. I could have made that thing behind her in my first six weeks of being a drag queen. Literally, it is a big sheet, several pieces sewn together with. It's a fitted sheet with either elastic or some sort of a string pulled through. This is crazy. This is crazy.
Jacob
That is not a parachute.
Bob
That's what she kept saying, but also, why? What's happening? This is so lazy.
Guest
She released this YouTube video where she redid the look and made it a little bit better. I mean, that's still. I guess this doesn't want to see.
Jacob
That makes more sense. Yeah, but I would.
Bob
Go ahead, Ma.
Jacob
I said I would. Yeah. Like this. This one. This white, her and all in white. That she should have won that on the show. That makes more sense. Like, this is more appealing than the things she ended up wearing. If I was doing this, I would have been a bungee jumper or a skydiver and have my parachute as my thing. That would have been the con.
Bob
That would have made more sense.
Jacob
Yeah.
Bob
Let's move on to our next look.
Jacob
Jacob, she's talking about in this. California king. Yes.
Bob
This was the best Runway of the week. I'm sorry. This Runway was so fun to watch. I think she actually looks really cool. I genuinely enjoy, and usually I'm with Naomi on like, they just walk the Runway. I prefer that she did it this way. Her miming was giving down. Like, I thought the. I really thought the wind was taking this bitch away. The way the scarf flies back is so cool. The way. This was great. This was really good for me. This was the best Runway of the week. True.
Jacob
Yeah. I thought. I thought it was good. I liked her concept and I love. Even her talking about the look was also really engaging. And her thought about. She's like. She's like. She's talking about this, this, this. This rhinestone umbrella with the spiders ain't saying. Stopping me from nothing. Whatever. I forget what she said, but it was all funny. Very kitschy. Yeah, I thought it was good. I liked it. Let's go on to our next queen. Oof.
Bob
Was wolf this.
Jacob
Kenya, please look what's cunt to you.
Bob
Okay. I didn't go that far, but woof is crazy. I think she looks good.
Jacob
I didn't like it.
Bob
I love this hair. I do wish that the wings were bigger. Like, girl, big girl, big girl. Like, at least reach your wrist. Can you please? It looks to be roughly at minimum five' ten.
Guest
Girl.
Bob
At least match your wingspan. Mama, this is tiny. You're tall. You're giving tall.
Jacob
You know what it is? She looked like. Have you ever seen how to you. Have you seen how to train youn dragon?
Bob
No.
Jacob
Well, they had one of the dragons that's a bigger dragon and it got little tiny ass wings on them. That's what she looked like. She looked like. She looked like if she was to take off flight, her wings would not support her and she'd just be flying and she can't get off the ground. And so the scale of that. And as someone who.
Bob
Say it again, I say, yeah.
Jacob
As someone who likes a small forehead. This is her hairline is on her eyebrows.
Bob
One head. That's a One head.
Jacob
That's crazy, girl. And put your hair like. Why is it the wig down here? That's crazy. So all this, this, this. No, but show it. Show it as a. As a full grown adult.
Bob
This is crazy.
Guest
Is it this one?
Jacob
Yes.
Guest
I don't actually know enough about how to train your dragon to know which.
Jacob
Why are you laughing at Bob?
Bob
So you think her teeth are fucked up?
Jacob
Yeah, girl. It looked like her fucked up teeth. Anyways,
Bob
Ashana says this is how people dress at Coachella. This is how people dress at Coachella.
Advertiser
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Bob
You're right. I might be. Y' all might be turning me on this. I actually think I might. The Wings are just too small. They need to be bigger, bigger, bigger. On the week that Alyssa's there, you should know they need to be bigger. You listen to the podcast, you've heard us say bigger a thousand times, girl. Bigger, bigger.
Jacob
Her eye makeup was pretty, though. Let's go on to our last queen, Ms. Mikey Meeks. I thought this was cute. I mean, it's not giving Runway on Drag Race. This is like a dancing costume for a dancing challenge. She does look gorgeous. She looks beautiful. But this is not a run around drag race. This is a dancing. This is a dancing costume.
Bob
I would say there was a moment in ear tuck that really sent me when she was like. Said something about somebody's wig and I was like. She was like, if Darlene wins in this wig, I'm throwing away my wigs. I'm like, girl, you literally have a ponytail on.
Jacob
Literally.
Bob
I don't wanna hear you talk about nobody's wig. You literally pulled that out of a bag and brushed it. You might have flat ironed it. You might have flat ironed it, maybe. Don't act like you got on the world's biggest wig, mama. Yeah, y' all know I like Milky Meeks. Don't act. Don't act like you got on a Trixie Mattel Lady Bunny wig, baby. You're wearing a ponytail on top of your. Your real hair. Calm down.
Jacob
Yeah, I agree. This was. This was a dancing costume. It's not a Runway for Drag Race, so I thought this was fine.
Bob
She does look really good, though. She does look really good.
Jacob
Yeah.
Bob
Let's go into the judging, so. Oh, Also, Mikey goes 20 yards. Girl, don't talk about 20.
Advertiser
20.
Bob
I'm covering the stage in 20 yards of fabric.
Jacob
That's not that much. It's not 20 yards.
Bob
She said it was. Oh. Oh, shit. So it's between Lux's wig, Kandi's train, and then Mikey's fabric.
Jacob
Girl, everybody swears.
Bob
You're saying they're all lying ass hoes.
Jacob
Yes, Each and every one of them. The fact that Kandy has not just not even in her free time, pretended to have a trainer's fact that Kandy still selling us this fantasy of this damn train.
Bob
Should we do a mini doc on this finding the. Because at some point. What's his name? The guy who did it.
Jacob
Who did the.
Bob
Who did all the.
Jacob
Tanner. Abel.
Bob
No, he did the bicala. Bicala. Bicala's got to have a picture somewhere, right?
Jacob
Y', all, Bob is in his documentary era. We were talking about something, and Bob wants To do a documentary about everything. You are out of control. I'd be like, yeah, girl. My Uber Eats driver didn't come. I'm like, she would do a documentary about it.
Bob
It's gonna be called Is the Train Still Running? But, no, I think she looks good also. Even if it was 20 yards, girl, this is. Whatever you have on your body is not enough to say you're covering. Don't say covering the stage. That's why I know it's very pedantic of me when a girl says every inch of this is covered in rhinestones. Don't say that. Don't stay completely encrusted if it's not. You can say, I'm wearing a lot of rhinestones. Don't stay completely encrusted if it's not completely encrusted. Because we've seen things on that Runway that are completely encrusted. And we're smart enough to know the fucking difference.
Jacob
The way Bobby. Picking and choosing. When. When. When words matter, they always matter. Okay, Bob.
Bob
Okay.
Jacob
I'm not even gonna get into it. I'm not even gonna get into it.
Bob
Yeah, don't get into it. I know. Because you have your legs to stand on. What movie?
Jacob
The Roseburn. If I had. You know what? Do you know who had a train that covered the whole Runway? Jacob, can you pull up Lady Gaga adding the Mayhem ball. The train. Now, that train covered the whole paparazzi. Yes. That covered the stage. That's probably 20 yards.
Bob
That was way more than 20 yards one day.
Jacob
I know.
Bob
That thing had to be. I mean, if I had to guess just from.
Jacob
No, not 100. 100 yards is a football field. It wasn't a football field.
Bob
It was probably at least 60 to 80 yards, if not more. Had to be. Had to be.
Jacob
Yeah. That was fierce.
Bob
Someone said, Alexis Michelle almost. Hillary Michelle says, Alexis Michelle almost went blind stalking that outfit. I forgot she said that. Let's go to the judging. Train. The judging here.
Jacob
Kenya.
Bob
Kenya has a very emotional moment with RuPaul and Maru does a thing where she repeats, it's from Good Will Hunting. You say something really poignant and you keep repeating it, and the more you say it over and over again, it's really simple, but it's really poignant. And the more you say it, the more it breaks down the person you're talking to.
Jacob
What are you saying?
Bob
Have you seen Good Will Hunting?
Jacob
No.
Bob
It's not your fault. It's not your fault. It's not your fault. It's not your fault. You Break down. So she keeps going to Kenya, please. She goes, you are enough. No. You have everything you need. You have everything you need. You have everything you need. And then, of course, Kenya breaks down and, you know, talks about the little. The little child inside. You know, someone said three times. The third one is slower. You have everything you need. You have everything you need. You have everything you need. There it is. Works every time. Oh, it was. You have what it takes. That's what it is. You have what it takes. That's what it was. You have everything in take. That's what it was. But this is a really cute moment that she had.
Jacob
I have everything in take.
Bob
I have. This is a really cute moment with RuPaul. What did you think of this moment? I mean, it was charming. It was emotional.
Jacob
It was very cute. It is charming. I think it's. So far, I'm so removed from Drag Race, I forget. I really forget Bobby's more than me. Cause I've done it three times now. But you forget how emotional you get on that show because you are dissected. Dissecting your art, dissecting your challenge. The judges are letting you have it, and someone like Kenny is not doing as good as she thought she would. So it is very disarming, and it is very cathartic. I think Drag Race is a very cathartic experience
Bob
for the most part. People got actually pretty decent critiques. Minus Kenya Pleaser and Juicy Love, Dion, Darlene ends up winning the challenge.
Jacob
Wait, we missed a Runway. Nini Coco. We just talk about Nini Coco. Where's Nini Coco?
Bob
Nini Coco.
Jacob
I.
Bob
Okay, can. I know I'm pedantic, but she said this is monochromatic. And the back of it has these little, like, white or pink piping in it. I'm like, it's monochromatic. Yeah, there's. There's a moment on the back that's not black, and I'm like, it's not monochromatic, Bob.
Jacob
That's monochromatic. Girl, please.
Bob
It's not monochromatic.
Jacob
Anyway, I thought this was, like, monochromatic means something. I thought this was one of my favorite looks for this week. I love the stone parts.
Bob
Cray dawn just said Kenya definitely didn't have everything she needed. She had to make three runaways the night before.
Jacob
Cray dawn is reading this entire episode. I thought this is a really dope concept, too, about spreading the ashes and the blowing back in her face. I thought this was really good. Nini Coco never disappoints on a Runway. This was even having these on ashes. What are these? Are these marabou, not maribou? What kind of feather is that? Do you know?
Guest
Sure.
Bob
I'm not sure. Yeah. I love the big chiffon or paper or confetti ashes that she was throwing. I do think the urn should have been black. That's beside the point.
Jacob
But I think it would have lost
Bob
it a little bit maybe, but could have been rhinestone. Who knows? I think that this is really, to quote you, everything.
Jacob
Everything. Doesn't need stones to quote you.
Guest
Not everything.
Bob
Not everything. I think this looks really good. I think she's really. She had a really good idea, and she executed it really, really well. And I love that she was throwing those ashes into the. Into the fan. It was really cool.
Jacob
See, I think it should have been glitter, Not. Not. Not paper.
Bob
I know. I think that this is better because it's so big. It makes more sense.
Jacob
No, but I'm kidding. Glitter would have been an awful idea. It would have gone in her eyes, all over the stage. That would have been. Throwing glitter would have been an awful idea.
Bob
I don't you be saying crazy stuff. I don't be knowing what you be playing. You're.
Advertiser
You're.
Bob
You're. You're weird, bro. You're a strange one. So. So Darlene wins the challenge. I would have given it to Jane or Mikey.
Jacob
Personally, I cannot believe Darlene won this fucking challenge. That shit is crazy. And I'm still. I will not forget these visuals of her doing that thing. And, Bob, do you see the. The cutaways? People are like, That's crazy. The cutaways were. Were pissing me off, girl.
Bob
Maybe you had to be there. You know what pissed me off was when to cut to. I believe. I believe it was Jane, and she was like, this is genius. We can't just drop the G bomb.
Jacob
Like,
Bob
you will work for the rest of your life doing that act, girl.
Jacob
Java, you pissing me off again. When RuPaul said that, I was like, that was crazy. I'm sorry. No, that was crazy.
Bob
So who'd you give it to?
Jacob
I would've given this to Jane. Doan't. I think Jane, don't. I like Mickey Meeks. I like Meekie. Jesus Christ.
Bob
You know what?
Jacob
Sit down to someone. You have me saying Mickey Meeks.
Bob
I like shout out to Mickey Meeks, by the way. Shout out to Mickey Meeks.
Jacob
I like Mikey Meeks a lot. But. But to me, I don't know. I did like Jane's jokes more. The black Plague one fucking sent me. The cum guzzling fucking sent me. I did like Jane's material a little
Bob
bit more than the cum guzzling is great. I do think the one greatest joke of the night was still Mikey's joke about trade wars. When her tricks find out she's the top, that's the single greatest joke of the night. But I think overall, Jane's package was much greater. Yeah, and I liked her look more too.
Jacob
I did too. I did too.
Bob
So Discord is officially the only girl in the competition without a win. Kenya and Juicy are in the bottom. They lip sync to a. An ama. My God, what a gift. To lip sync to Total Eclipse of the Heart by Bunny Tyler. What a fucking gift, bitch.
Jacob
I was jealous. I was like, oh, my God. Total Eclipse is. What an amazing lip sync songs I have on Drag Race. I was jealous that they got to do that. I'm not even kidding.
Bob
Like, did you get to lip sync to an actual, like, drag? This is like when Chi Chi and Thorgy got to lip sync to.
Jacob
Yeah.
Bob
What a gift. You know, some girls had to lip sync to songs from guests they have never heard of and songs they never heard of either. And you got to lip sync to Total Eclipse With a Heart by Bonnie Tyler. My God, Kenya Pleaser does not know all the words.
Jacob
She knows 90% of them, though.
Bob
That's not enough. But if the other girl knows a hundred, now what? You're cooked. And I will also say there was a moment where I felt like she was like, copying La Mama, copying Juicy when Juicy act like the wind caught her and she was going back. And then next thing you know, she's doing the same thing eight counts behind. I was like, I don't know. I didn't like that.
Jacob
And also, I just.
Bob
Yeah, she's also singing. Someone said she ate those background vocals, though.
Jacob
She was.
Bob
She was singing the. She was singing the background vocals.
Jacob
Yeah. And I just think that Juicy just performed the song better. I loved a lot of Juicy's choices, and she just. She gave me more of the. More of the song.
Bob
And Juicy showed that she does not have to do spins and dips and kicks and splits and backflips to win a lip sync. She can do it off of raw emotion.
Jacob
I mean, to be fair, it was against Kenya Pleaser, though. Like it. Mama. Mama.
Bob
That's crazy. That's. Who sent home one of the best lip singers of the season.
Jacob
Who?
Bob
No Shade. Mia star.
Jacob
Kenya sent home Mia Star.
Bob
Pretty sure.
Jacob
No Bobby keep on saying that. And every time we say no, that's not who it was.
Bob
No. Kenya, please hit on Mia star Jay, you know.
Jacob
Oh, that was Juicy before.
Bob
Okay, so you're wrong. Thank you. All right, moving on. Juicy wins. I agree with this. Win easily. And we have six queens left. Monet X Change. Who is going to be winning RuPaul's Drag Race Season 18?
Jacob
I'm looking at these girls again. Hold on one second.
Bob
I'm ready to go ahead and announce my winner.
Jacob
You've said it literally 18 times already. What do you mean? You could be ready to announce.
Bob
What if someone's just tuning in?
Jacob
What?
Bob
What if someone's just tuning in? What if they skip to the end of the video and they didn't see that part?
Jacob
I think the top two are Mikey Meeks and Jane Don't. And I think that Jane don't is going to be our winner of season 18.
Bob
I think Mikey Meeks is going to win RuPaul's Drag Race season 18, and I think she deserves it.
Jacob
I like Mikey a lot. I will be very happy if Mikey wins. I. I'll be either. I'll be happy if I. If either Jane don't or Mikey Meeks win. I think they've both done a stellar job this season, and they will both deserve it.
Bob
It. Who's gonna be getting Discord?
Jacob
Discord is going home. Discord is going home faster than she could, I don't know, walk her off the stage. Discord is going home.
Bob
Actually think Darlene is going home next?
Jacob
I don't think so.
Bob
I didn't watch what the next. I normally watch what the next week's challenge is, so I don't chat. Let us know. I normally. I normally watch.
Guest
It's a makeover.
Bob
Makeover.
Jacob
Oh, yeah. Where is makeover?
Bob
Ooh, it's a wrap on darling.
Jacob
No, girl, it's no Darling. Are you kidding me? No, it's going to be Discord.
Bob
Oh, it's going to be Juicy.
Jacob
Oh, yeah, Juicy. All right. She can't. Oh, no. But these days, the girls bring in costumes, girl, so it doesn't even matter.
Bob
Yeah, but I don't think Juicy has the skills to put someone else in a dress. Okay, it could be Juicy. It could be Juicy. At some point, Juicy was like, one of the girls. Like, if I have to lip sync against everyone, you get to the finale. No shade. Do you really think you're gonna lip sync against everyone and then win the finale? It might happen in a world where it might happen, but Jesus Christ.
Guest
The question is, who's the bottom two and can Juicy beat that other person in lip sync? Cause if it's Juicy versus Discord, it's Discord.
Bob
What's the song? Is the song gonna be, you know, Evanescence wake me up inside?
Jacob
And Discord's still going home? I want to know.
Bob
Don't count discord out. Don't count Discord out?
Jacob
I won't count Discord out? But I will count that court out.
Bob
We're going to hop over to the Patreon to talk about untucked and this week's drama. There's a lot to talk about.
Jacob
Uhhuh. Including. Including about your friend.
Bob
You all there?
Release Date: March 18, 2026
Hosts: Bob The Drag Queen & Monét X Change
In this episode of Sibling Watchery, Bob and Monét dissect RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 18, Episode 11, aptly titled “A Toast to Alyssa Edwards.” The episode focuses on the latest roast challenge, as the queens take turns roasting legendary queen Alyssa Edwards. Bob and Monét provide their signature blend of sharp Drag Race analysis, spicy opinions, and laugh-out-loud banter, giving listeners a comprehensive and comedic breakdown of the episode’s key moments, performances, and the ongoing narratives building inside the workroom. They engage with live Patreon audience comments, critique runway looks, unpack episode drama, and debate the top contenders for the crown as the competition inches closer to the finale.
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Bob and Monét deliver a lively, shadily affectionate recap, balancing heartfelt insights and clinical Drag Race critique with their trademark humor. They break down why the right (and wrong) jokes worked in the roast, commiserate over Nene’s odd narrative, and offer insight both as former competitors and seasoned comedians. The episode closes with speculation, hope, and playful tension over which top queen—Jane or Mikey—will claim the S18 crown.
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