Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race S18E13 "Karens Gone Wild"

Summary

Sibling Watchery: RuPaul’s Drag Race S18E13 “Karens Gone Wild”

Podcast: Sibling Rivalry (with Monét X Change & Bob the Drag Queen)
Episode Date: April 1, 2026

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Main Theme & Purpose

In this lively episode, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change review RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 18, Episode 13, “Karens Gone Wild.” The duo dissects the drag queen acting challenge centered on “Karen” stereotypes, critiques the queens’ runway looks under the “Wholesome to Fulsome” theme, and react to the shocking elimination of a frontrunner. Expect the usual rapid-fire banter, insider drag wisdom, and audience interaction as they break down the drama, the wins, the lip sync, and where the season is heading.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Energy and Podcast Banter

• Monét’s LA update, post–Moulin Rouge run, and the mood between hosts (00:05–01:17)
• Quick Patreon shout-out and reminder for top-tier benefits (01:44)

2. The Top Three vs. Top Four Finale Debate (01:12–01:44)

• Monét: “I love a top three. Top three is better than top—anything.”
• Bob: Recalls the show’s history moving from top two, to three, to four, and favors a focus on fewer queens for narrative clarity.

3. Mirror Message Censorship & Drag Race Production (04:51–05:43)

• Bob reveals that Discord’s exit mirror message included “Eat the rich, Black Lives Matter, and Protect Trans Kids”—which was cut from the final aired episode.
  • Bob: “They didn't air it. They didn’t like… The show cut that off, obviously.” (05:00)
  • Monét: “They wiped it.” (05:14)
• Discussion about queer activism being sanitized for TV.

4. Analysis of Contestants’ Progress & Unique Qualities (06:05–07:53)

• Darlene’s unexpected longevity and underdog narrative; both are surprised she’s lasted so long and agree her distinctive style and perspective set her apart.
  • Bob: “Now, I have a clear idea of who Darlene is. If you put all of Darlene’s clothes in a thing, I would know exactly which one is Darlene’s.” (07:30)

5. Mini-Challenge Trainwreck (08:23–09:29)

• The mini-challenge is unanimously deemed a flop by both the queens and hosts.
  • Monét: “I think this is the first time no one’s won a mini-challenge. RuPaul was like, Y’all are so bad I’m gonna just pay the crew extra.” (08:45)
• Discussion of fake laughs in comedy (“Your fake laugh, it sounds fake…” [10:03])

6. Improv Main Challenge: Role Choices & Strategies (11:13–14:19)

• RuPaul gives the queens a “Karens Gone Wild” acting challenge with himself as scene partner.
• Notable moment: Juicy is again helping shape her role as a “spicy Latina Karen.”
• Darlene gives Juicy advice, helping her performance—Monét jokes, “Is this not her M.O.? Someone helped Juicy get through another challenge. Unbelievable.” (13:41)

7. Pre-Challenge Judges’ Walkthrough (18:26–19:11)

• RuPaul singles out Juicy as the most concerning for the challenge.
  • Bob: “He looks at Juicy and says, ‘I’m… I’m the most concerned about you.’” (18:44)
  • Commentary on how producer/judge feedback shapes confidence and performance.

8. Challenge Breakdown: Queen-by-Queen Critique

Juicy: “Parking Spot Karen”

• Humorous highlights: crawling over the pole, crying, the “kids are in salsa making class, not salsa dancing” line (19:12, 20:12).
  • Monét: “Her crawling over the pole, that was funny to me.” (19:21)
  • Both feel Juicy delivered a strong, funny, but could have gone further.

Darlene: Unorthodox Take

• Amused by Darlene's choices but “wasn’t Karen enough.”
  • Bob: “Darlene was funny, but she was not a Karen.” (21:19)
  • Debate whether it fits the challenge brief or is just funny improv.

Mikey Meeks: “Traffic Stop Karen” & Challenge Winner

• Praised for clear structure, variety (antagonism, seduction, running away), and physical comedy.
  • Monét: “Her character really explored all the ways to get what she wants. And I genuinely think this was the best one. Easy.” (24:05)

Jane Don’t: “Ms. Flight Karen”

• Underwhelms with lack of creativity and missed comedic opportunities.
  • Monét: “She missed a lot of opportunities and RuPaul was really throwing her softballs.” (25:23)

Nene Coco: “HOA Karen”

• Missed jokes, repetitive delivery, and let RuPaul beat her to punchlines.
  • “She should’ve gone to Mommy Dearest. No decorations ever.” (27:32)
  • General consensus: lacked escalation.

9. Runway Discussion: “Wholesome to Fulsome” (32:01–41:19)

Juicy: Alice in Wonderland → Cheshire Cat (kink: chastity)

• Both love the reveal and concept.
  • Bob: “She didn’t reveal her shit right at the top… It was nicely paced.” (33:17)

Darlene: Campy Take on Piss Play

• Monét loves the concept, Bob thinks it doesn’t go far enough visually.
  • Bob: “Just looked like a stone… I thought it was boring.” (34:26)

Mikey Meeks: Rose → Thorny Leather (kink: pain/bondage)

• Creative bouquet-to-whip reveal. Debate over terminology (bodysuit / leotard / catsuit).
  • Monét: “I love her. Her bouquet turned into a whip—that was really clever.” (35:09)

Jane Don’t: Wuthering Heights → Wax Play

• Both dislike the aesthetics; critique the proportions (“looks miniature,” “like the Trunchbull”).
  • Monét: “As a woman of a certain size, you gotta be really careful with that stuff.” (38:34)

Nene Coco: Statue of Liberty → Oxidized Kinky Liberty

• Smarts points for concept, but confusion over what the actual “kink” is.
  • Monét: “Is her thing oxidation? …I do like she went from copper to oxidized copper. That’s clever.” (39:41)

10. Judging, Elimination, and Lip Sync (41:48–47:51)

• Mikey Meeks wins ($5,000 prize).
• Notable drag banter on weak Drag Race prizes: “They said, you can see it in Florida, baby. We’re not flying you out.” (42:26)
• Nene Coco and Jane Don’t land in the bottom; both agree with this result.
• Nene triumphs in the lip sync, delivering a showy cartwheel-back tuck.
  • Monét: “She did a cartwheel, threw her legs to the sky, landed like Simone Biles.” (45:41)
  • Both see Jane’s elimination as shocking given her consistent high placements.
  • Debate: Should this have been a double save/shantay?

11. Who Should Win? Season 18 Predictions (53:01–54:51)

• Both now pick Mikey Meeks as most likely winner, but Bob questions if Mikey “feels like a star.”
  • Bob: “Jane Don’t is a star… Mike doesn’t give winner.” (53:28)
• Chat chimes in with support for Darlene and Nene as possible winners.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Monét (on Darlene’s styling generosity): “Meanwhile, I’m the stylist for the whole fucking crew for everybody.” (30:01)
• Bob (on Jane Don’t’s elimination): “I think sending Jane Don’t home is criminal.” (47:51)
• Bob (on Mikey): “I really like Mikey Meeks. But she’s not a star.” (53:27)
• Monét (on spicing up Karen acts): “I wish someone embodied that woman who said, ‘My kids are in the car listening to Kidz Bop!’” (27:49)
• On Mini Challenge Failure: “This is the first time no one’s won a mini challenge. RuPaul was like, Y’all are so bad I’m gonna just pay the crew extra.” (08:45)
• On judging critiques: “Jane genuinely did a fantastic job this season. She was amazing. She deserved to go home this episode. I’m so sorry. It is what it is.” (50:34)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Top Three vs. Top Four Finale Debate: 01:12–01:44
• Censored Mirror Message & Production Choices: 04:51–05:43
• Mini Challenge Failure: 08:23–09:29
• Karens Acting Challenge – Roles and Beats: 18:23–22:59
• Runway: Wholesome to Fulsome Commentary: 32:01–41:19
• Lip Sync Breakdown & Elimination Debate: 43:15–47:51
• Winner Predictions & Jane Don’t’s Legacy: 53:01–54:51

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Audience Interaction & Podcast Chemistry

• Banter about personal anecdotes (e.g., hair care and “exploding” shoes)
• On-air disagreements playfully escalate, often involving the chat and producers (Jay and Jacob).
• Occasional “edit this out” jokes, breaking the fourth wall and referencing fan-favorite podcast moments.

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Conclusion

This episode of Sibling Watchery delivers an energetic and insightful breakdown of a notably wild “Drag Race” episode. Bob and Monét debate fairness, comedy, production politics, and the importance of individuality, with signature wit and a no-holds-barred attitude. Their disappointment at Jane Don’t’s elimination is palpable, but they agree Mikey Meeks stands poised for the crown. Listeners get both the week’s tea and enduring wisdom about how to stand out in drag—and reality TV.

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Transcript

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Foreign.

[Monét X Change]

Hello, everyone. I'm back in Los Angeles, California. I finished my run on Moulin Rouge Musical. Go see Megan Thee Stallion playing Ziddler in Moulin Rouge. I saw her performing once with no audience, and it was really entertaining. I had so much fun.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you. Are you in such a good mood today to fight the Bob's and the Mood allegations?

[Monét X Change]

I'm just in a good mood. Can I just be in a good mood? You're trying to ruin it. You're trying to ruin it. Which, by the way, is easy for you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'm gonna say we. Look, when you're in a good mood,

[Monét X Change]

I think your light's too bright. You look a little. A little ashy. Can you warm it up? My God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can't just call a black person ashy. That's crazy.

[Monét X Change]

There you go. You look dry. Kind of like your vagina. We are reviewing RuPaul's Drag Race Season 18, Episode 13, the Karen's Gone Wild. Is that the name of the episode?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I think that's right. The Karen's gone wild. Episode 13, episode 13 of season 18. Which means we have three more. And it looks like. I mean, the previous. For the next episode, looks like we're going to a top three. Because there's another challenge, like a regular episode next week, which is, like, kind of wild.

[Monét X Change]

I love a top three. Top three is better than top, top anything. More than. I mean, whatever. It is what it is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But when it's more than three in

[Monét X Change]

the top, I think it's a little while.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Really?

[Monét X Change]

I think so. I think. I think it should. I think it should be a top three. That's kind of how we started out as a top three.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we.

[Monét X Change]

A lot of.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it used to be top twos. Used to be top twos, and then it changed the top three on a Fifi 4. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Monét X Change]

I mean, since we've done those, like, live audience finales, it seems like. In my opinion, that top three works best. In my opinion.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why? Why is the top three work best? I'm genuinely curious. I'm not trying to be.

[Monét X Change]

Well, but you can focus on each girl more. You don't have to worry about too much. You know, it's just. It's just you can really zone in on one person. Also, I want to remind you all that our patrons get to view this, watch us record these live, our patrons at our top tier. And if you would like to join that, then please feel free to join our Patreon. Go to Sibling. Go to patreon.dot com. Type in sibling rivalry podcast. Do you mind if we hop into the episode? So Mikey has her. Has secured her. Hey, what's up?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're back home. Hi.

[Monét X Change]

I know. I wish you were here now. You're in New York and I'm in la.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know. It's not funny how life works.

[Monét X Change]

Life do work like that. Life do work like that. We have the same micron. Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Twins twinning. Oh, my God. Really quick. I. This really hot guy today after.

[Monét X Change]

Can you describe him, y'? All? By the way, y' all about to keep on his downfall.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Describe him.

[Monét X Change]

Money's like. Money's like, hot. Whenever I describe my guy. Hi, guy. Hot. What's happening? He's hot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's hot.

[Monét X Change]

Skinny, fat, black, white, Puerto Rican. Like, give me something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He was tall, Puerto Rican from Boston. He's. He plays hockey in New York City. I'm like, you play hockey? New York City? And he's like, yeah. I was like, so? He's like. He's like, can I come over to your hotel? I was like, so sure. He's, like, in, like, a rush. I was like, where are you now? He's like, I'm over at the public library. I'm like, why are you the public library? And he's like, cause I'm here for hockey. I was like, you play hockey? Hidden scene. I mean, I don't.

[Monét X Change]

You just outed him. Tall Puerto Rican. Narrows it down. Come on, Connor. Cory.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no. Should we. Should we. No. Should we take that out?

[Monét X Change]

It's not my business, I'll tell you that. That's great. You didn't have to throw in from Boston. That's crazy. Tall Puerto Rican, plays hockey from Boston.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're going to see.

[Monét X Change]

We need to edit some of that out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jay.

[Monét X Change]

This is live. We're live.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're live streamed.

[Jay]

We always do this live.

[Monét X Change]

Monet. I just think it was crazy until Bob made such a big stink about it. You see, it would have been fine if I said it. No one would.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No one would have thought about it.

[Monét X Change]

Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, you outed him now?

[Monét X Change]

You made a whole thing out of it. Lmao. Definitely outed him. You really meant.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, you know what?

[Monét X Change]

Let's move on. I'm reading Jessica Banks says lmao. Definitely out of him. I'm reading it. Move on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Move on. Anyway, so wait, Jimmy said, call Puerto

[Monét X Change]

Rican from Boston in New York City for hockey. Okay. What's his Social Security number? Can we move on?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, the girls come in, and we

[Monét X Change]

want to hear more about this Heated rivalry you're having. We're not moving on. Honey, what are you doing?

[Jay]

Would you say like 5, 11?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. Anyway, we're moving on. I'm not talking about this anymore or another. Anymore. Listen, listen, listen, listen. Linda, listen.

[Monét X Change]

Did you hear this?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So this little mirror method has a drama. Apparently, the show cut off some of Discord's mirror message. Did you hear about this?

[Monét X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So she wrote her message, whatever it said, and Jacob, can you pull it up? I mean, probably I should have asked before this, but at the end of it, it said, eat the rich, Black lives Matter, and something about something else. And the show cut that off, obviously, because we didn't hear about it. You didn't even know she said it.

[Monét X Change]

They wiped it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, like, the show didn't air it. They didn't like.

[Monét X Change]

There we go.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, so Discord said this. What is generally wrong with y' all on this fandom? So her former message said it ended, Eat the Ridge, Black Lives Matter, and Protect trans kids. And Drag Race. Cut that part out of her mirror message of the girls reading it.

[Monét X Change]

To be fair, she said, though I think it may have been cut out, I didn't zoom in on them. I used to, like, zoom in and try to read the mirror message, but sometimes the handwriting is pretty brutal. Well, Nini read it out loud and

[Jay]

they cut off part of the mirror.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, the girl always reads it out loud. Whoever reads it out loud, they showed it, though. You could see it. And even when Discord left, I think she said, eat the rich or whatever. So, I mean, if they wanted to censor it, they could have cut her saying that too. And they did.

[Monét X Change]

Well, they gonna be gnawing on RuPaul's long ass legs, honey,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And eating one of Trixie wigs.

[Monét X Change]

So Mikey has her second win. People seem to be just genuinely rooting for Darlene. I think there's a few things. I think there's a little bit of shade. Cause they don't think she's a. She's a threat at all. Which is gaggy because she's lasted longer than a lot of these girls she has.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I will say I'm genuinely shocked. Like, going into the season, I had no, I did not think that Darlene would be here this long. Like, at the beginning of the season, I had. Did you think Darlene would be here this long?

[Monét X Change]

Girl? That was me and Yvie, oddly, like, just from Meet the Queens. I was like, I like this girl. She's charming. But then I was like, no, she's eating Like, I literally. I literally did not think Yvie. Oddly, I thought Yvie was gonna be. When I just saw just promo, I was like, yvie's gonna be one of the first out. But I love this girl. Then she just ate everyone and won the whole fucking season.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you think Darwin's gonna win the season?

[Monét X Change]

I don't. I still think Mikey's gonna win the season. I don't think Darwin's gonna win with her one win.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Um, Evie had one win. Who? Yvie only had one win.

[Monét X Change]

Oh, really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monét X Change]

Uh, the girls cannot take Darlene getting good critique. They can't take it. Like, when they were like. And you put these panties over this, and this is what law roach. They can't take it. Darlene is marching to the beat of her own drum, and she is super unique. And I think that, honestly, is something that a lot of the girls are lacking. They don't have a perspective like Darlene has, in my opinion. I agree. I agree.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Darlene has a very unique, unique perspective that we haven't seen on Drag Race. I will say, like, even in, like, her makeover and, like, some other stuff she worn, like, now, like, I have a clear idea of who Darlene is. If. If you put all of. If you put Darlene's clothes in a thing without her in it, I would know exactly which one is Darlene's, which I can't say for a lot of the other girls.

[Monét X Change]

I agree with you. Except maybe Nini Coco, if it's got those spikes all over and one of her little face genies or her little cap she'd be wearing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jane don't. Like all this conversation about her being, like, she's saying in her confessional. And as they're all debriefing, she's, like, being the bottom. It's never gonna happen again. And she's saying all the girls have been threatened by her the entire time and obviously know what happens at the end of this episode. It goes to show you can never be too confident on Drag Race. Cause the show will pull the rug from right out under you.

[Monét X Change]

Yank it out from underneath you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monét X Change]

Um, let's hop into this mini challenge. It is. Okay. Now, this time, we cannot blame. No one can blame the editing. Because even the girls during the challenge are like, damn, we suck. Everyone's saying they suck. No one can blame the editing. All the girls are like, this is bad. I think this is the first time no one's won a mini challenge. This is the first time RuPaul was like, Y' all are so bad. I'm gonna just pay the crew extra.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I don't think that's ever happened before.

[Monét X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think that Mikey and Nene were actually that bad. I don't think they were hilarious, but I thought they were just fine.

[Monét X Change]

Maybe the editing saved them. I mean, I will say I like when Jane at the end, when she goes, that's pretty much all they say about me. That was getting a lot of laughs. I don't feel like two minutes is really that long to do. Did you do a puppet show?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, and I've never done a puppet show.

[Monét X Change]

On Drag Race, we did a. We did a puppet show. I don't really get why they're all drink. Why they're all struggling. Cause this is. This is a pretty funny group. Like, they've been pretty funny in the past. They've excelled at a lot of improv challenges. I do not get why they are doing so poorly. And it's pretty brutal because RuPaul's like, oh, you like improv ing? Cause you're about to do it again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also, RuPaul's not helping either. RuPaul. I mean, RuPaul, there's things that RuPaul just like.

[Monét X Change]

I mean, how much can you save something that's going poorly?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I'm a. We.

[Monét X Change]

We.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We talked about this on a podcast a little. I don't know if it was this washery or rivalry. Are you saying when something's not funny, you won't laugh? If someone's selling a joke, even though I don't think it's hilarious or it's not the funniest joke, I will still give a courtesy.

[Monét X Change]

I don't do that. Cause it sounds fake. It sounds fake. No. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I don't. I don't really go like, I. I engage like, I don't know. Okay.

[Monét X Change]

I'm not like, I've heard your fake laugh, and it sounds fake. I've heard your fake laugh, and it sounds fake.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's my fake laugh?

[Monét X Change]

You're like,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't do that.

[Monét X Change]

It doesn't sound real. And by the way, the people know. The people who are telling you jokes, they know. They know you don't think what they're doing is funny. They know what you're offering is kindness.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They can tell you don't know when I do it to you.

[Monét X Change]

You've never done it to me. First of all, you would never give me. You would. You would never give me anything. I have to take everything I've ever gotten from you. So let's go into the getting ready. So there's no argument. The girls do the improv video. They get to film with RuPaul, and no one argues. Everyone just picks a role, and everyone gets it, and it's not a big deal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, RuPaul was talking about. Because he was saying that they're gonna do a scene with an iconic guest. And he goes, you know you're gonna be doing this with. You know, he's like, you know, in the past on Drag Race, we've had iconic guests who only need only go by one name. Liza, Lizzo, latoya. I was like, you mean latoya Jackson.

[Monét X Change]

But you knew who he meant.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I know RuPaul loves Latoya. No one just says Latoya. If you say Latoya, bitch, I think Latoya lucky Latoya Jackson.

[Monét X Change]

But everyone knew. Everyone knew. RuPaul's talking about Latoya. I mean, RuPaul.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because RuPaul loves Latoya Jackson.

[Monét X Change]

RuPaul was obviously doing a bit. But we all knew who RuPaul was talking about, though, so she kind of ate low key.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thinking Luckett over Jackson is crazy.

[Monét X Change]

I mean, that's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love latter. I'm torn in between the two. Cause I really want to be with you. When RuPaul says improv, juicy, immediately RuPaul says improv. Grabbing your head on the mention of improv is crazy.

[Monét X Change]

Girl, calm down. So what I'm intrigued by is that when they pick their roles. Juicy. And they're talking about what they're gonna do. Shocker. Juicy wants to pay a spicy Latina who. This is unbelievable. Who could have seen this coming? I think that's wise.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you're not. She's not super confident in improv. Cause the last one, she didn't do well. But RPDR was improvisable, and she did a good job. But anyway, the best one she did

[Monét X Change]

when she did the New Jersey. The New Jersey accent. That was the best. That was her best. That was her funniest thing she's done on the show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but if you are not confident and you're like, I know how to play Latina, like, that's what. That's my bread and butter. Like, let me play that role. Like, I'm like, I think that's smart for her to do.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah. I mean, I'm just. I didn't say what Badger said. Shocking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Shocker. Yeah.

[Monét X Change]

By the way, they had to walk through. Rue threw her sister under the bush. I think about my sister I was like her sitting at home watching, like, what she said, fuck me for.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love Rozzy. You know Rozzy loves it. She listens to Cinnamon Rob recent times.

[Monét X Change]

Well, Rozzy, I'm sorry that RuPaul. Did you like that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ru?

[Monét X Change]

Did you dirty. You go, what did you say fuck me for? You ever seen that clip of 50 Cent?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monét X Change]

There's a clip of some. Someone says something about fuck you to

[Bob the Drag Queen]

50 Cent and he goes, what'd she

[Monét X Change]

say fuck me for? It's basically the same as now. Why am I in it? It's the same thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

50 Cent, aka Curtis Jackson, is such a messy celebrity. He is so messy. He is messy. Every time when he did 50 Cent doing something crazy anyway, or filling in for Drew Barrymore. Oh, yeah, he has done that. I love that they're all, like, working on this stuff. And Darlene is giving Juicy some advice on character choice, and it gives Juicy a light bulb, which I think fuels her to do well in the challenge, which I'm like Darlene helping out the other girls.

[Monét X Change]

Shocker. Someone helps Juicy through a challenge. I mean, I'm no shade, but, like, someone helped Juicy get through another challenge. This is unbelievable. Like, is this not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me say that again.

[Monét X Change]

It's just this guy on TikTok, this. This teacher on TikTok who always does that. This is unbelievable. It's. This is kind of her mo. I need help. I'm. I'm a spice to Latino who needs help. Also, Juicy's not spicy. What is a non spicy Latin dish? Ceviche. She's not spicy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She.

[Monét X Change]

A little tangy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ceviche. Ceviche.

[Monét X Change]

They use. They use.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They use lemon and onion. I mean, lemon to, like to season the chicken, to. To. To cook the fish a little bit. So I would say maybe a crudo lemon spice. I don't think crude is.

[Monét X Change]

Lemon is not spicy. What is a crudo?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, he said tangy. Oh, tang.

[Monét X Change]

Is crudo like a flavor profile?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think, but I think. I don't think crude oil is a. Is a Latin dish. I think it's. I don't know what it is.

[Monét X Change]

What would Juicy do if no one helped her in the show? Lip sync every week.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And that would not be the tea, because I think we were not over.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, flan. She's not spicy. She's Latina. She's not spicy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's flan, not flan.

[Monét X Change]

Are you that person?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you.

[Monét X Change]

Are you at the. At the fucking Olive Garden asking about brisket?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I am And Bob, I mean, we literally have. Literally our recent episode of podcast is us speaking Spanish, and you were speaking for Spanish, so it's not like you can't do it.

[Monét X Change]

What do you call the stuff? The. The. The stuff made of avocados and, like, lemon? What do you call that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Avocado and lemons?

[Monét X Change]

Yes. Avocado, lime, Avocado, lime, onion.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you call that stuff with tomato in it?

[Monét X Change]

Yeah. What do you call it sometimes? What do you call it, though?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Guacamole.

[Monét X Change]

No, you don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bitch, I've been with you.

[Monét X Change]

You call it guacamole. You call it guacamole.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When I'm at Chipotle, I say, can I please have a side of chips and guacamole?

[Monét X Change]

Bitch, I've been with you to motherfucking Chipotle. You say, can I get guac? Or you call it guac? You don't go guaca. Boile.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why? I say why? I normally say guac.

[Monét X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monét X Change]

let's get to this challenge.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, Juicy.

[Monét X Change]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. What? What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, whatever. My other note, I said, oh, RuPaul. When all the girls had the walkthrough with RuPaul, he's talking to all of them as I walk through and he said, oh yeah, you're going to do good. I'm excited about this. He looks at Juicy and says, I'm. I'm the most concerned about you.

[Monét X Change]

That valid?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like God damn.

[Monét X Change]

Well, Juicy was concerned about herself too. They're on the same page.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I would want to know that, but that would throw me, that would send me into.

[Monét X Change]

Well, I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, fuck my drag, I guess. I guess I might as well go home now.

[Monét X Change]

I mean, but she's fighting, you know, she's. I will say, I do. I admire that she's willing to ask for help when she needs it. She is not ashamed to be like, I need help. Help me, help me. Yeah, I agree.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I agree.

[Monét X Change]

So Juicy is the parking spot Karen. She actually has some great lines. I love the line about her kids are in salsa making class, not salsa dancing class. That was fun.

[Jay]

That's funny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Funny? Yeah.

[Monét X Change]

Her crawling over the pole, that was funny to me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I, I think that she could have went Further, though, like, I feel like in all of them, I think they all. They all could have stand to go to go on a little far. But I do think that Juicy did a really good job. And just overall, honestly, this is, like, a really fun challenge to do. Like, this is like a really. This is like, a really fun challenge. And, yeah, I think that her. I'm surprised all of them didn't do something with hitting, because that's what Karens always do. Karen's always. In every Karen video. Like, 75% of them, they always. There's some hitting going on. Either they're hitting someone or someone's hitting them. So I think it was smart that she went to hitting, because that is, like, a typical trope in any Karen video.

[Monét X Change]

I want to ask you if this is a good drag name for a drag king. Phil in the Blank.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bill, Fill in the blank. I like it. I know it's my favorite.

[Monét X Change]

Like, Philip Nathaniel the Blank. So he's Fill in the Blank. I like. My name is Philip Nathaniel DeBlank.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why Nathaniel? I don't get Nathaniel.

[Monét X Change]

This is Phil a middle in the Blanc. Maybe it's the Phil in de Blanc.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So it's like, I like that better. I like that better.

[Jay]

Feel free to grab.

[Monét X Change]

They wanted that drag name. Feel free to grab it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When then we get into Darlene and girl, did you see RuPaul did your dance move? What are you dancing? What he did.

[Monét X Change]

That's DJ.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was like, not RuPaul doing the bob. No, RuPaul doing the ball.

[Monét X Change]

Doing the RuPaul doing RuPaul. Yeah, I know. You don't play about that move. She don't play about that motherfucking move.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think that Darlene did a good job, but she was not a Karen.

[Monét X Change]

I didn't go over all things for Juicy. Juicy. I also enjoyed Juicy. The only one who cried, which I feel like is kind of a trademark of a Karen, is to start crying if things. If things are going against you when Ru gets out of the car. And then she also. When she stops crying to go, good luck in jail, and then goes back into crying. I thought it was very, very funny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I thought it was good, too. I thought she did a good job with Darlene. I think that Darlene was like, Darlene was funny, but she was not a Karen. Darlene was doing, like, a. Like, just a regular acting scene that she got in her class, and she was with her scene partner. Like, there wasn't no Karen in it. She was just being funny and doing biscuits. Rupaul it was missing the Karen for me.

[Monét X Change]

I mean, kind of. I think that Karens don't always have to be so vapid. I think that she was trying to steal and use her privilege as a white woman to get out of this thing. Um, kind of like how I will get there. Mikey kind of did a similar thing. Like, Mikey didn't go full off. She had a little bit of spice, a little bit of, like, using her. Using her whiteness to get out of stuff. I think she actually did a pretty decent job. I thought she was really funny. I like how she pretends to know the owner. That's a great Karen move. She knows the owner of the store. And when she came back and said, can I have the chips? That. That was the only genuine laugh I had watching. I mean, there were some moments I was like, this is funny. But the time that I actually laughed out loud was when she came back in the store and said, can I have the chips?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I guess I don't have. I don't. That was my experience. I was like, yeah, this is funny. But I'm not getting Karen at all. It just seems like a funny improv, improv scene that would. That, like. Like, she didn't fit the brief, which I think is something that I've been seeing a lot with Darlene. Even when, like, Snatch, not Snatch Game, the roast, where Darlene kind of didn't grow. She just was doing, like, a. A fucking tight five of her, like, her weirdness. I'm like, I think it's. It seems to be a common trend with her that she doesn't always do the challenge. Kind of like doing her version of the challenge, which is a little irksome to me.

[Monét X Change]

Chania Martin said, I think they miss how nasty Karens are for real. They just insult and degrade and belittle people, and none of them really got that. To me, I think they were scared to go there with ruin.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, especially in the piranhas of Drag Race, y'. All, in these acting challenges, RuPaul wants you to go. Everything is bigger, over the top, crazy. Darlene was just, like, doing jokes.

[Monét X Change]

Um, and. Okay, so let's go on. You want to go into Mikey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mikey motherfucking meek. See, I thought Mikey was good. I thought Mikey had dynamics. Mikey started, like, traffic stop. Karen. Yeah, traffic stopped. Karen and Mikey, like, had dynamics in hers, which I think made her excel like hers. Her story had a clear beginning, middle, and end. And, like. And she started, like. And she did different things. Right. She first started off, like, antagonizing RuPaul. Then it was seducing him. And then like the running away I thought was funny. I think that's what set her part. Is that hers? Her, Her. Karen had a journey. It wasn't just like, let's talk about a little later. Nina Coco. That was just on 10. Nina Coco hit it full throttle. She was going in like Mikey gave like a bit of more story and I think that's what edged her over everyone else.

[Monét X Change]

She also had actual jokes. This is Toyota Coma. And then she fell asleep. The leaning back in the chair was great physical comedy. The challenging RuPaul, I mean she, I think, I honestly genuinely think that Mikey did the best. Her trying to flirt was great. She used different tactics to get what she wanted. Her character really explored all the ways to get what she wants. And I genuinely think this was the best one. Easy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I think so too. I agree, I agree, I agree that

[Monét X Change]

it was go into Jane, who is a Ms. Flight Karen. And first of all, she's not thinking out of the box, which is crazy for Jane.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's not what?

[Monét X Change]

She's not thinking out of the box. Like she's not. I feel like Jane is more creative than this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know what I mean? Yeah. And it was so funny that they said the 250 pound line. Cuz I wrote that too. And while watching, I was, I, I, I was like, what? Jane had no reaction to the, to the rude 250 pound line. I thought that was easy one.

[Monét X Change]

She, she went whoa or something. She did have a reaction.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sorry, a joke. Yeah, a joke. Also when she said I'm flying to Palm Springs for a girls weekend, she said like little things like that. Like I'm flying to Palm Springs for a girls weekend with my guys or the gays or something to like, she just like was just being really service. Which is very weird for Jane because Jane is very funny. We've seen Jane be extremely funny. Like so it was so weird that this was maybe it's just being that long. The competition was getting to her. It just seems so out of like the norm for her.

[Monét X Change]

I wish she had been like, I'm flying to Palm Springs. You would know about that. It's funny. Palm Springs, where all the old gays go. You should know about that. You know what I mean? Like they're really, she missed a lot of opportunities and RuPaul was really throwing her some softballs. Like some just real underhand, easy to hit softballs. And she didn't hit any of them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah.

[Monét X Change]

Really is narwhal by nature, pointed out in the beginning, she did go like, I don't like those Karen videos. They make me uncomfortable. So maybe she doesn't understand the. How those videos work because she hasn't watched them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's no way you are a fucking Gen Z or millennial in. In 2026. And you don't. You. You don't. Even if you don't watch them. You understand the concept of. Of Karen. Karen is part of our lexicon. I think Karen is in the fucking dictionary now. We all know what a Karen is.

[Monét X Change]

So off. So she doesn't get a full. Like, I. I know what the housewives are, but I don't watch much, actually. I've seen enough clips.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I.

[Monét X Change]

There are things that I know what they are, but I'm not super familiar with it. Maybe she's. I mean, she said she didn't watch the video, so I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't buy it. If I. If you've never seen a housewife, I think you would buy just public and, like, social media. You would know how to play a housewife in the workthrough.

[Monét X Change]

When Ru asked the girls, what.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What am I looking for?

[Monét X Change]

When Jane gave the answer, Ru was

[Bob the Drag Queen]

like, that's exactly it. So even though she doesn't watch it, she knew what to do.

[Monét X Change]

Well, apparently Jane and RuPaul are aligned because RuPaul asked for whatever Jane said. RuPaul was like, that's the thing. But she didn't deliver in the. In the challenge that I know she was. She did not give what needed to be gave in the challenge. Let's go on to Nene Coco.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nene Coco.

[Monét X Change]

I mean, I wish that she would have. Like, I can't believe she let RuPaul beat her to the homo joke. Like. Like, I'm on the hoa, the Homeowners association. You're on the hoa, the Homos of America. Like, I think that she. She let RuPaul beat her to too many jokes and she would no end.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

RuPaul said, oh, you mean the homo thing? And she was like, no. And she said the thing. I was like, she was literally knowing. You didn't get to catch that.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, I mean, I knew that for whatever reason, what she was doing was not working.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, she missed such a good line, like, again, to placing RuPaul when she was taking on the decorations. She was like. She was just like, no decorations, no decorations, no decorations. She should have went to mommy dearest. No decorations ever. Like, shit like that.

[Monét X Change]

Shania just pointed Out. I wish someone embodied that woman who said, my kids are in the car listening to kids bop.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kids bop. Yeah.

[Monét X Change]

Interesting. Like, no one chose a specific Karen to embody or to evoke. No one chose, like, a specific Karen to, like, lean into.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I, again, I think the girls were not taking it further. Like, I think a classic line is what you could have did was. Was at RuPaul's house, try to. Try to go into his house and act like it was her house. And I could like, something like. Also, she should have, like, threw a line about the bitch. Well, maybe because she white, she like, bitch, this ain't the Brewster Project.

[Monét X Change]

You can't be. You can't be hanging. Should have said it, because it's a direct line to RuPaul.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know what I mean? I know like, shit like that.

[Monét X Change]

I'm like, girl, like, just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But, yeah, it wasn't great.

[Monét X Change]

So let's go on to the makeup. They're doing their makeup the next day, and Darlene's feeling good about her performance. Juicy's feeling good about her performance. I find it funny that Juicy says that she took a risk by playing a Hispanic Karen. I'm like, girl, how would that say that's what you've chosen almost every time. How is that a risk?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was. When else was she. Did she choose someone Hispanic?

[Monét X Change]

There have been times where she kept being like. Or if she was, like, resting on her lower, like, she didn't do it. But for Snatch Game, her go to before she did JoJo, her go to was to be a spicy Latina. But then. Cause she was like, I'm gonna do this thing instead of playing jojo Siwa. So even though she doesn't always do it, I feel like each time, whether she did or not, she has mentioned at least, I think I'm gonna be a spicy Latina, with the exception of the New Jersey thing, because the character was already chosen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, maybe she was. She didn't want to be, like, offensive to her community. And she. Which I think is. Some people may be a little, I. E. Kenya. Kenya, please her. You're like, why does she have to play a fat black lady?

[Monét X Change]

I didn't say why she has to play a fat black lady. No matter what she does, she's going to be fat and black because it's who she is. It's not that she is black and fat. It's that she always plays into, like, I want some Kentucky Fried Chicken. It's too much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I think so. I think that's what Juicy is Maybe afraid of. She's afraid of, like, doing something that may be offensive to some. Some Latinx people watching, which, sorry, Latinx people know. Latino people watching. I've been schooled on that 19 times

[Monét X Change]

on the Internet forever. A lot of people in the Hispanic and Latino community are very split. Some folks are like, I like Latinx. I don't know what to say. I can't. We can't. You can't please everybody.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have not.

[Monét X Change]

I have not seen it across the board. I don't like this. I've seen a lot of people who are Hispanic who are like, I like Latinx, so I don't know. I'm not Latino. I can't tell you what to say. But it seems like whichever one, somebody gonna have a feeling about it. Um, that being said, Darlene gave Juicy that dress. You worth a challenge. What did these girls bring for themselves? Y' all making fun of her clothes? Meanwhile, she is the. Literally the stylist for the whole fucking show. Like, at this point. At this point, Darlene is a shoe in for Miss Congeniality easily. Darlene gave Juicy the dress she wore for the challenge. So at this point, what are. What are the Who's. Y' all can't make fun of my clothes. Meanwhile, I'm the stylist for the whole fucking crew for everybody.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everybody here. And wig stylist, costume, dress, dresser, prop props. She truly is.

[Monét X Change]

So she's obviously. She is a shoe in for Miss Congeniality. I mean, there's no way anyone's getting Miss Congeniality out over her at this point. No way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's lovely.

[Monét X Change]

She's kind. She's. She's dressing everyone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If anyone else wins, she's important.

[Monét X Change]

She's kind. She's impotent.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's impotent. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Monét X Change]

And Jane says she feels cautiously optimistic about her performances. Emphasis on the cautious rip. I think the truth is those are hard because the girls, I don't think they. I don't know if they watched each other's performances.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They didn't. They didn't get to see each other perform. So that's so. So, yeah. So they don't know.

[Monét X Change]

Let's get into these looks, shall we? RuPaul and the judges. Everyone looks great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Stunning. I love this RuPaul outfit.

[Monét X Change]

Everyone looks fantastic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's got a matching shoe to it, too. It's a matching shoe.

[Monét X Change]

I really love this dress that I love. When Michelle breaks out of wearing all black, I'm really into that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I think she looks good. Let's go into our first queen, which is so. So the category was from wholesome to fulsome.

[Monét X Change]

Yes, from wholesome to fulsome.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Love is Juicy's first look is actually

[Monét X Change]

a little bit kinky in and of itself. It looks like. It looks like a latex housewife dress kind of. I don't think it is latex, but it looks like it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. She's doing it. She's doing Alice in Wonderland and she has a big bow at the back and this iconic Alice Wonderland shape. And she has a big old size bottle of poppers and she smells it and then she reveals into this like sexy leotard catsuit. Well, Cheshire Cat catsuit. Which. The cat have yellow eyes like that. Was he like striped?

[Monét X Change]

The Cheshire Cat?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's pronounced?

[Monét X Change]

I thought it was the Cheshire cat.

[Jay]

No, it's the chassis.

[Monét X Change]

That's not true. Y' all know about the gaslight me? It's the Cheshire Cat. You know what? The gaslight me. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The Cheshire Cat.

[Monét X Change]

The cat. I think, I mean the one from the Disney. Disney is. I think the only mess like canonic about the Cheshire Cat is that his eyes like float when he like he floats around and his eyes appear.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But that's the one I'm talking about.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, I think that's a Disney one for sure. But I think the only thing that's like canonic about the Cheshire Cat is that his eyes are yellow or that they kind of float around like without his face attached to it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Got it.

[Monét X Change]

And he has a huge smile. That's the thing. The Cheshire Cat has a massive, massive smile.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I think she fits the brief. I think this is. I think this is a really dope take on it to go do it. Alice in Wonderland theme and reveal. And also I love that she didn't was like one of these girls. She didn't reveal her shit right on top of the thing. She came down. She did the whole thing. She came all the way down to the bottom of the run, did her proper thing, went upstage genreveal and did it. Which was. It was nicely paced. So I like that about it.

[Monét X Change]

I agree. This is she. This is probably the most she's worn. Not the most, but like she's worn way less clothes than this. Her legs look great, her ass is fantastic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I love the way that it's the way that garter is like pushing up her butt.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah. I love that she did chastity as her kink. I like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Let's move on to the next one.

[Monét X Change]

Up next, Darlene. This Was a really. This was a really fun take. Like, I think boring. I thought this was really camp. I thought it was really fun. I like that she had the hankies. I like that she had this piss on her dress, on her T shirt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, you doing piss play? You're gonna do this little piece of yolk. Like, this is piss play. It looked like she looked like an egg darling. Looked like an egg on the top.

[Monét X Change]

Well, in the context of this challenge, I think it was quite clear what it was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but it was too boring. I'm like, girl, you gotta be doing kink and fold. A piss play. Like, I think she could have went further with the piss play in terms of, like, making it look like piss. This just look like a stone. A yellow egg yolk on her thing. I. I thought this was black and I thought it was boring.

[Monét X Change]

I. I like it. I like it. Crayon said, why are her legs so damn dark?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, she.

[Monét X Change]

We've discussed this before, and I do not know why. Let's go on to our next one. Up next, we have Mikey Meeks, who goes from a rose to a thorny spiked leather look. This is really. I think this is really cool. I think I love her. I think what I love the most was that her bouquet turned into a whip. That was really clever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that was cool. I think that was cool. I will say Mikey has won a lot of body suits and she has not been critiqued on it. Have you noticed this? Norman Michelle is like another bodysuit.

[Monét X Change]

I hate when they call leotard's bodysuits. I don't know why that drives me crazy. I do not know why that drives me crazy, but it does drive me crazy. I'm gonna open up. I'm gonna come clean about that. It does drive me crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I think in there's a debate between, I mean, not leotards, but bodysuits and catsuits. Like, people, people, people call a cat suit a bodysuit. Like, you, you call this a leotard. Some people call this a body suit. Some people call the thing, the full thing with the legs and the arms a cat suit. Some people call the legs with no arms a bodysuit. So it's like.

[Monét X Change]

And some people call the one with the legs and arms a unitard. Some people call it a cat suit. Some people call it a unitard.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't forget your favorite. I think only Bob calls it this. What? Good. You used to love these in drag, Your little bike tards.

[Monét X Change]

No, you call them bike tards. I got that from You. I got that from you, drag dog. I got that from you. You're the one saying bike tard. He was obsessed with bike tards.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Bob, you just sold them for me. You called it a biketard.

[Monét X Change]

I don't. I'm pretty. I'm almost 100% certain I got that terminology from you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, ma'. Am.

[Monét X Change]

Let's go on to our next one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like this look, though. It does look good.

[Monét X Change]

And it was very close.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's cute. Jane.

[Monét X Change]

Jane.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't. I don't understand Wuthering height. She's like, Wuthering Heights.

[Monét X Change]

Is there a candle. I haven't read whether the heights since I was in high school. Is there a candle in Wuthering Heights?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm assuming yes.

[Jay]

Not as, like, a plot point.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it was a way to work. To work a kink in, like. Because then she's like, wax play and like, all over her tits later on. So I think that's a way to work the kink in.

[Monét X Change]

This is a really kind of boring kink.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like wax.

[Monét X Change]

I mean, I don't know, honey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you. That means you. That means you would never have the right one to give me the right wax, baby. Because wax could be a turtle or something. Put it on your booty hole. Wax on your booty hole. Would.

[Monét X Change]

It look.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would get like, a little cinch, girl.

[Monét X Change]

I don't know. I just heard my girlfriend in high school and I. We would, like. We tried, like, food. It was a. I would never again will I ever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Uh, I was. I was. I was too fat to be using food. I felt being R.C. me and R.C. was like, Girl, there's one thing that we can't do. Like, we. We are too big to be. To be adding food to the bedroom. That's too much.

[Monét X Change]

Um, but I. I also don't. I don't love this look. I. I'm not really into this one, to be honest. I think that I do. I will say that her breastplate is immaculately hidden.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that a joke?

[Monét X Change]

I think it is really well hidden because the seam is perfectly under that line and I don't see the. And it's under her neckline.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When she turned around, the racerback was like. You could see it clearly from the back. It was very obvious in the back.

[Monét X Change]

Why would. Why would your breastplate have a racer back on it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know.

[Monét X Change]

Interesting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But yeah. And I was also, the way the tits were positioned, they looked weird. Like, they looked like they were.

[Monét X Change]

I didn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love it also Something about the reveal. She just like the reveal outfit. She just looks really, I don't know, like short.

[Monét X Change]

She looks like he has short legs. I think that she looks miniature and I think that her like her, her corset's a little too long and the pain is a too long.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think maybe that's what it is

[Monét X Change]

that makes her legs look really short and stout.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, she looks like, she looks like the damn trunchable.

[Monét X Change]

It's giving a little bit of trunch bull. Yeah. And when you're a woman, as a woman of a certain size, you gotta be really careful with that kind of stuff. Which is why I don't have, I don't have giant boobs. I'm enjoying. My boobs are not huge. Because it can go trunchable real quick.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Patty thinks, Patty thinks I need to go small with my boobs. You dad. To go small on my boobs. I said Patty, I think my boobs are.

[Monét X Change]

You don't even have tits.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, I do. I wear tits all the time. And jar.

[Monét X Change]

What are you talking about now you wear those tiny, tiny little pads you don't have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not true. I wear a 38C.

[Monét X Change]

That's, that's mostly because of your back. That's mostly back and shoulders and height. Let's go to the next.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To the next. That's it. Oh no.

[Monét X Change]

Needy Coco Nini Coco is the Statue of Liberty into the kinky Statue of Liberty.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I thought it was like a really smart thing. But I was, I agree. Like, besides like wearing a kinky costume. I didn't get what her exact kink was. Like. Is her kid going from Xena?

[Monét X Change]

Yeah. Is her thing is her kink oxidation. It's like. Yeah. And I've been oxidized. I don't really get what's going on here because she, I will say I do like that she went from solid like, like a coppery copper to like an oxidized copper. Which I think is quite clever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. She's a very smart queen. Also, she would have wore these like, these girls away. Those. I do not like wearing those tall ass heels. Do you like wearing those? I hate those shoes. I feel like I can't like meet the ground.

[Monét X Change]

I, I, I have some.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, yeah, we know what we're saying. We know.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, we know. Jay, shut your ass.

[Jay]

But I also, I was on the impression that it wasn't. You didn't specifically have to do a kink like some girls did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kinks.

[Jay]

But it was more just about being, like, kind of dirty and slutty.

[Monét X Change]

I feel like the prompt that you get when you. When on your paper is not what they say on the stage. So it feels like everyone did a kink except Mimi, Coco, which seems to insinuate to me that maybe there was something like do a kink in there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know what I mean? That's actually. That's true. I can't confirm. I've been Drag Race three times, and they do me things that they don't be saying. Well, what's. What's Mikey's kink? Flowers.

[Monét X Change]

Getting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Getting money from John's.

[Monét X Change]

No, the thorns. Like, poking in thorns and, like, a little bit of blood. Because she also got a little bit of blood from her thorn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, that's true of that.

[Monét X Change]

I love that someone here said Rick Batita said Nene hates to see a wig coming.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She really does.

[Monét X Change]

She can't stand a motherfucking wig. Don't put a wig nowhere near her. Don't even say wig around her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That opening look is. That opening look is scary. Like, Nini Coco's like the. The. The copper one is scary looking.

[Monét X Change]

Yeah, yeah. Just Liberty. Liberty for injustice, for all is scary. Monet. You're right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can we go back to the lips, Jay? I mean, Jacob. Jesus Christ, the two of y' all on here. I can't keep it straight. Jacob, can you cycle back again, please?

[Monét X Change]

Straight.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honestly, I think Juicy's my favorite this week. She looks great.

[Monét X Change]

She does look really great. She does. I think she might be my favorite, too. Let's go on to the judging.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Judging.

[Monét X Change]

So Juicy, Darlene, and Mikey all got great critiques. Uh, they felt like Jane.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Darlene was not great. Darlene was. They said she was funny, but they said she didn't hit the brief. Really heard it in untucked.

[Monét X Change]

Um, they felt like Jane didn't go far enough in her portrayal, and they felt like Nene was very one note. But Mikey ends up winning the challenge with a. She wins $5,000 and tickets to Stop that Train. Notice they did not say tickets to the premier.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Girl to go see it over there at Magic Johnson.

[Monét X Change]

They said, you can see it in Florida, baby. We're not flying you out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honestly, that's one of my. Can I tell you, that's one of the things I miss from New York City. I miss going to see Woolies at Magic Johnson. It is such an experience. Oh, my God, you have bruxy. I fucking love bruxy.

[Monét X Change]

Were you. Were you in South Betray?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monét X Change]

Are you going. Are you did you get invited to the premiere?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monét X Change]

Are you going?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. I don't even know if I'm in town. I don't think I'm in town.

[Monét X Change]

Damn, you too good for RuPaul. Why didn't I get invited?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, yeah, next time maybe you can stop that train, too.

[Monét X Change]

I was like, I wonder if RuPaul was going to come see me on Broadway because she went to go see Jinx. She did not. Let's keep moving on. Mikey Meeks wins. Nene and Jane are in the bottom. And I agree, they were the two worst.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I could have seen it either. Either Jane, definitely. I could have seen a case for either Jane, Nene or Darlene.

[Monét X Change]

I think. I think Nene did worse than Darlene because at least, even if Darlene wasn't like a super duper Karen, she was just funnier. Like, she was just funnier to me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know what I mean? Yeah. Um, let's talk about this lip sync. I thought that this lipstick.

[Monét X Change]

Well, before you do, this is Nene's second time in a row in the bottom. And this is Jane's first time ever in the bottom. And then Nene says she's up against me and that's bad news for her. I love when a bitch talks shit right before the motherfucking lip sync. Because then you. That's how. You know. Because I feel like I've never seen them do that and then actually have that person lose. That's like when Peppermint said, I actually feel bad for Cynthia right now.

[Jay]

Don't they record them after the lip sync? Don't they do the confessionals recorded after the lip sync?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They are, yeah.

[Jay]

So they've all. They all know that they won, so they can talk shit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But they're.

[Monét X Change]

But they're. But the questions aren't. Their question, like, how do you feel in this moment? And if you're feeling honest, like, that is true. Confident. So they ask you to basically, like, be your real self and, like, say how you truly feel. And if you. If you lost, I reckon you might lie and be like, I don't know how I'm like, you might not be confident. But I'm saying when they put it in there, when they put it in the edit, this bitch is about to get beat. I still. I mean, Peppermint standing about. Cynthia Lefontaine is one of the cuntiest. Like, what do you call them? Interviews or confessionals ever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Talking head. Yeah.

[Monét X Change]

I actually feel bad for Cynthia. This was a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is going to lip Sync.

[Monét X Change]

I do think I'm actually scared for Cynthia. She goes, I'm actually scared for Cynthia. I'm scared for her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was that needy bodied her and especially when she did that cartwheel into the, into the back tuck was insane. I don't think we have seen a back tuck on the show with Jax, but never in this way. Nini is obviously, Nini is a, she covers so many so much ground as an entertainer. She's a, she's a great designer, she's funny and she's a great like lip sync and performer. So Nini is these really dope. She's really, really, really dope. And she, she ate Jane's ass up.

[Monét X Change]

What made it particular?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Whose music is that?

[Monét X Change]

I don't know, Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just playing.

[Jay]

Sorry, I didn't realize I was muted. I was trying to find the clip from Last Dance where Raja o' Hara is going against Scarlet Envy and she's like, it's about to be your last dance, bitch. Or something like that.

[Monét X Change]

I think what makes this cartwheel into a back tuck so fierce is that they did the same move and then Nene just took it a step further. Actually eight steps further. Like otherwise it would have been like, wow, they both did a cartwheel. But bitch, she did a cartwheel, threw her legs to the sky, her head to the ground, grabbed the back of her thighs and stuck the landings like fucking Simone Biles.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was not Simone. Not Simone.

[Monét X Change]

Crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Come on, Simone, let's call you.

[Monét X Change]

Hey, what is this you are doing on these backflippings?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, BC now toxic me after. This is how toxic I am after, after I see her do that, I said, oh, I gotta do it too.

[Monét X Change]

I would round it up, do a

[Bob the Drag Queen]

car and try to backtuck on that stage and correct. I'm like, I gotta do it.

[Monét X Change]

So Nene won. I agree with that. I agree with that. I think Jane was the worst and I think in the challenge and I think Nene beat her on the lip sync and as well as Jane's and by the way, Jane has been immaculate this season.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But girl, but.

[Monét X Change]

But also. It is what it is, my boy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

See, I disagree. I disagree because yes, I, I think Jane did lose the lip sync and she was not creating the challenge. But I think this was the just cause to do a double Shantae because I think that Jane, she was in the bottom last week, but Jane should not have been in the bottom last week. We could all agree that Jane Jones did a good job in, in, in the makeover. So that was Just a bullshit placement last week. So this is really the first time we've seen Jane stumble. And I think her bottom placement here. Yes, it was warranted this episode, but it's her first stumble, and you're gonna send me over my first stumble. Bullshit. It should have been a double. A double Shantae.

[Monét X Change]

So you wanna see two double Shantaes in one season? Didn't we get that when in what's the name Season? In Kandy's season, we had eight double Shantaes in a row.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't remember that.

[Monét X Change]

I remember watching that season being like, damn, is anybody gonna go home?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, yeah, I think it was bullshit. I think they should have. They should have given. They made a double Shantae, and they could have done that, but they didn't. I think sending Jane. Jane Doan home is criminal.

[Monét X Change]

I don't. I think that Jane did a really good job this season, but you can't just have everything you've done to protect you from doing poorly in a challenge. And it'd be one thing if she, like, was as bad as someone else. Jane Dunt was not only the worst on the Runway, in my opinion, but. But she also was obviously the worst in the challenge. Obviously.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I disagree. I think Nene was the worst in the challenge. She was the worst.

[Monét X Change]

Mm. Well, you just said earlier, you said, Jane don't ship in the bottom, but Nene and Darlene can swap out. So which one is it? No, no, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm saying yes, sir.

[Monét X Change]

You said Jane should be at the bottom, and you said Nene and Darlene can swap out. So you're swapping out the worst for someone else.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Clarity. No, what I said. What I said was I understand Jane as we have Jane's placement. I said I would have done Nene or Darlene to be with her. Not like I wasn't, like, putting them in order. I'm just saying we have Jane. Jane definitely in the bottom, and Nene should be the other one. Nene or Donnie could be the other one with her, is what I'm saying.

[Monét X Change]

But if you think that. If you think Nene was the worst, why would Jane be definitely in the bottom and then swap out Nene for someone else if she was the worst?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I think that her. I'm saying because Jane definitely belongs there and either Darlene or Nidi. What is so confusing about that?

[Monét X Change]

Because you chat. Am I crazy? You were saying that Jane should be in the bottom. Like, yeah, Jane in the bottom. But you're saying Nene was the worst. So why would Nene be your definite bottom, then have Jane and Darlene swap out. What are you not understanding?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I see what you're saying, but I don't understand what you're trying to. What you're implying. It doesn't make sense.

[Monét X Change]

It makes chat. Am I crazy here?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're crazy, but that's on a separate conversation. A different issue.

[Monét X Change]

That's how you sound to me, by the way, whenever you speak.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's very problematic.

[Monét X Change]

And what are you gonna do about it? And what are you gonna do about it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're live. You know we're live. We can't edit this out. Right?

[Monét X Change]

Loop it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God.

[Monét X Change]

Edit. I'm not like you. I don't have Jay edit out things I say.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honey, James, not edit out what I say.

[Monét X Change]

Okay, well, honey. Honey, we'll release. We'll release the most themed files one day. Everything you've edited out that you've asked us to edit out. Yeah, honey, we're going to release the most seen files one day. Play with me. Because me and Jay have it all unlocked, ready to unleash on you the day you ever say something we don't fucking like. Clear it up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're so ridiculous. Anyway, so, I mean. And we're not alone. The Internet was shocked. Everyone was shocked, gathered, shook, shattered. That Jane don't went home today. I agree.

[Monét X Change]

Jane genuinely did a fantastic job this season. She was amazing. She deserved to go home this episode. I'm so sorry. It is what it is. It be like that sometimes. It really. I will say this, though. No shade to the girlies who've been brought back on their season.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But in the diabetic,

[Monét X Change]

she got right back on her season. Yeah. No shade to, like Naysha and Diabet and other girls who have been brought back on their season. I will say this. If you're gonna bring a girl back, Jane would be one to bring back, but she still need to go home.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do we think. Do we think she comes back?

[Monét X Change]

She could. I mean, it'd be weird this late in the game. Like, what's she gonna miss one episode and then come back to the finale? I would be. I would. I would. I would start slashing her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's cute.

[Monét X Change]

I would slash tires.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's cunt. I would not. I would want that to happen. I think she's earned it. Bitch.

[Monét X Change]

I would be outside Rue's mansion in Beverly Hills cutting up her tires.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Doesn't she have three wins and all high placements?

[Monét X Change]

No, she. She had one bottom last week.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

2.

[Monét X Change]

So she had two bottoms in a row.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was in the bottom, though. She's not lip sync. She wasn't in the bottom. That's not at work. She's not in the bottom.

[Monét X Change]

No, but she was. But she was low.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, so she was in the bottom.

[Jay]

She does have the longest streak of high placements out of any real girl

[Bob the Drag Queen]

in history in her.

[Monét X Change]

It was a whole talking point at the top of the episode about how was her first time with a low placement. It was a whole talking point, but not bottom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was in the low bottom.

[Monét X Change]

I didn't say bottom. I said low. Let's put on our. Our listening ear.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God.

[Monét X Change]

Can I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I. I was going through my. Through my Twitter bookmarks last night. I was looking for another video, and I found three bookmarks, and I bookmark of you. Of me catching. Of you saying, I never said this, I said that. And then back in the day when Jay used to loop stuff, brought it back, and I was like, I'm gonna repost these on the fucking civil rivalry.

[Monét X Change]

I was like, cause this bitch. You know how many we have of you? And also all the clips, by the way. Everyone. All people. Monet said she never had an exploding foot. Everyone who was at our show to Rhode island released your pictures of Monet's shoe literally exploding on stage and once again, performing with one shoe on. You performing with one shoe and is something. It is a trademark of your. I would say you're more known for that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Trademark. I would say you're more known for

[Monét X Change]

that than sponges at this point.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. I've had those shoes for a very long time, and they were. The leather was not that long. How long?

[Monét X Change]

So who do you think is going

[Jay]

to win RuPaul's Drag Race Season 18?

[Monét X Change]

I. I still stand by what I said before, that Mikey Meeks is the winner of this season.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I. My winner was Jane, but I think it's going to be Mikey Meeks. Now. Can I say. Oh, God.

[Monét X Change]

Oh, somebody about to piss people off. Say it. Say it. I dare you to say it. I dare you to say it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, I really like Mikey Meeks. I really like Mikey Meeks. But she's not a star.

[Monét X Change]

You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, Jane don't Is like, I'm sorry, Jane don't is a star. Like, you see. Jane don't. This season, you're like, oh, this bitch is a winner. Mike doesn't give winner. Like, I really like her, though. She's probably my favorite personality this season, but she doesn't give, like, winner you know what I mean?

[Monét X Change]

I don't, because I, I. She's been my winner ever since the Frankenstein challenge.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is the chat saying? I can't see the chat. The chat. Do y' all do. Do y' all agree? Do y' all disagree?

[Monét X Change]

Darlene is the winner.

[Jay]

It might have surprised us, darling.

[Monét X Change]

I wanted to read them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh,

[Monét X Change]

Cray dawn says Nene for the win. Season 18.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Season Daddy's on.

[Monét X Change]

That's. I said. That's not what I said. I said Darlene.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, you said the name of the person you were reading.

[Monét X Change]

Crayon. Craydon. Crayon is the one always chatting. Kradon has had more mention than anyone. The chat here. The chat here says, Jay, edit that out. Monet said anything about Mikey. Girl, say it. Monet, we know nothing. Nothing about nothing about Mikey. Someone said. Agreed, Bob. She's Mikey motherfucking Meeks. Says Rick.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Rick Patita.

[Jay]

Somebody else said. Monet, speak your truth.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, again, like, I really like Mikey. Like I said, she's one of my favorites this season. I think she's very funny, but I feel like she knows, like, a little more time to cook, in my opinion.

[Monét X Change]

Someone pointed out Mikey's been in the top the last seven challenges in a row. You know what Jane don't do? Win drag race, season 18. On that note, let's hop over to the to our Patreon exclusive. You guys want to hear our thoughts on Untucked and the drama? Please join us there. See you soon.