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Bob the Drag Queen
Hello by the Drag Queen.
Monet X Change
You're in a good mood. How are you today?
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm in a good mood.
Monet X Change
I feel great.
Bob the Drag Queen
How you doing?
Monet X Change
Pov? You're having lunch with a person with Invisalign. And like, it seems like Invisalign. I guess my only question, like, why is. Why is like Invisalign? People, they never take. They never think to take, by the way. You can feel free. But they never think to take the Invisalign out before they're like sitting at
Bob the Drag Queen
the table because you're supposed to wear it for the maximum amount of time. So I think in, like, in that 25 minutes, you're waiting for your food to come and you're just having drinks, you can still have your Invisalign in. Got it.
Monet X Change
Because I feel like it's always at the table. It's always like at the table in front of it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, you know, how about you stop making it awkward for us and just letting us do our thing instead of commenting on it.
Monet X Change
Maybe it is awkward for us though. Cause we're right now.
Bob the Drag Queen
You've been about it for three years now. It's not awkward for you. You're fine.
Monet X Change
Yeah, if it's three years, is it working?
Bob the Drag Queen
So I had the same conversation with my dentist. So annoying.
Monet X Change
Baby, this is a scam. You have a hairless cat and your Invisalign is working.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's literally for this. And it has gotten a lot better. It's just like a small gap here I'm trying to close. That's literally all I'm doing it for. Literally. That's it. Everything else is fine. It's literally just. It. It's insane.
Monet X Change
How much have you paid for this?
Bob the Drag Queen
All you pay is one thing. You pay $3,000. It was $6,000, but my dentist gave me a deal because this was back before I had insurance. She's like, this is really expensive. Let me see what I can do also, anytime he goes like a. I'm very. Which I'm very grateful for. My orthopedist, Dr. Trulby, he gave me a deal on it.
Monet X Change
But, you know, like, what's your orthopedist?
Bob the Drag Queen
They do. Dentists. They do like. They do.
Monet X Change
And what's orthodontics?
Jacob
Orthodontics is dentists. Orthopedics, I think, is foot, isn't it?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, no, no, no. Dentist and an orthodontist are different. An orthodontist does. I don't know the difference, but they're. They're braces, right?
Monet X Change
Don't orthodontists do braces?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, but I don't know what the whole study is, like, what the story of orthodontry is. Jacob, can you look it up? Because orthodontics are something. And then dentistry is something.
Monet X Change
So.
Jacob
Orthodontist. Yeah, but a dentist is trained to diagnose, prevent and treat teeth and jaw irregularities and.
Monet X Change
Let's see. So what's an orthopedist?
Jacob
Orthodontics are.
Monet X Change
No, no. You said orthopedics, didn't you?
Bob the Drag Queen
I meant orthodontist. If I said orthopedics, Oh, I was like, what?
Monet X Change
I was like, what is it?
Bob the Drag Queen
A podiatrist is feet.
Monet X Change
Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
So. But, but, but you. You wear orthotic shoes for your feet. So I don't know what an orthodontist or an orthodox orthopedist is, because peed is foot, so something with the feet as well.
Jacob
Okay, so orthodontists specialty. The orthodontists are a subsection of dentists who specialize in correcting your bites and how your teeth.
Bob the Drag Queen
Got it. Got it. And what's an orthopedist?
Monet X Change
I don't think that's the word. Orthopedic definition is the healing correction, bones and muscles.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, so not just feet, Just bones. But is it petty is a foot. Petty is a. Is a root word for foot, isn't it?
Monet X Change
Yeah. Orthopedic is bones and muscles. I don't know what you want me to tell you.
Jacob
Giatrist is foot. Orthopedic bones in general.
Monet X Change
I don't think you'd be an orthopedist. I don't think that's a word. I think orthopedic is a word, but orthopedist is not a thing.
Jacob
An orthopedist is a medical specialty focusing on injuries and disease affecting your musculoskeletal system.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Nigger. Nigger.
Monet X Change
First of all, you were here saying, go. Being like, yeah, no, Such thing as orthopedics. Orthopedics.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
Nigger, shut the fuck up. Bob.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is not civic rivalry. This is civic watchery. And we have decided to jump into season one of RuPaul's Jack Race because I have never seen it. And every time I say I haven't seen it, people give me like, I can't believe. How can you be a. How can you understand for a season? I'm like, because I didn't. Bitch.
Monet X Change
What happened mood you're in? Well, the study of Dr. PDH has really got your mood together.
Bob the Drag Queen
Before we jump in really quick, did you ever want to be a doctor as a kid?
Monet X Change
No.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. I did.
Monet X Change
I wanted to be an account. I wanted to be an accountant.
Bob the Drag Queen
I can see as a lawyer. Oh, my God. Y', all, Y' all. As well as best friend. This. Well, now, y' all know this now because he's, he literally has a TikTok devoted to his debating. Bob is obsessed with debation and arguation.
Monet X Change
I'm an orthobatist.
Bob the Drag Queen
You'd have been an amazing lawyer.
Monet X Change
Is your desire to be a doctor as a kid, Was that part of your West Indianness? You said Nigerians and West Indians have a lot of crossover. And I know a lot of Nigerians say that they're pushed to be doctors and lawyers.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, for sure. Your parents. Are you going to be a doctor, A lawyer, or is this another one I forget, but Dr. Or, or a doctor lawyer. Yeah, yeah.
Monet X Change
Where you represent doctors specifically.
Bob the Drag Queen
Right. Which is probably a lot of money there.
Monet X Change
But yeah, I did consider going to law school, but I mean, I'm a horrible student. I'm, I'm a really, really bad.
Bob the Drag Queen
There's so much reading. To be a lawyer, you have to do so much reading, so much case study, you have to like, it's.
Monet X Change
But online reading, you have. I reading.
Bob the Drag Queen
You have. You have a good memory, though.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I don't mind reading. I just hate school. Like, I really am.
Bob the Drag Queen
Not for the school streets, but I'm the difference. I, I, I don't like reading because I've told you guys, my mom used to make me read for hours to correct my speech impediment because it was really bad as a kid. So that made me hate reading. But I like school. Like, I like going to school. I like sitting in the class getting information. I like studying for a test. Like, I like those things, but I don't like to read.
Monet X Change
But this is not, this is not civil rivalry. This is where we delve into our lives and Our opinions about. You know, this is a show called Watch, where we're going to specific Opinions about Drag, where you are watching Drag Race, the two winners of RuPaul's Drag Race. So I think we are. We are qualified to give our opinions.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
Although that's a.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let them know for all y' all motherfuckers that be like, what qualifies Bob and Monae to talk about drag? Because we fucking won the show. Okay. That's number one. Number two, this is our motherfucking podcast, bitch. If you want to talk about the way the plants grow, that's. That's our motherfucking prerogative. And you chose to listen.
Monet X Change
Okay, Edinburgh put a. Put a battery in your box, haven't they? You are energized, honey. Edinburgh got. Got you. What the.
Bob the Drag Queen
Did you just put a battery in your back?
Monet X Change
Okay, in Edinburgh, they put a battery in your back.
Bob the Drag Queen
Money.
Monet X Change
Rob.
Bob the Drag Queen
You are screaming.
Monet X Change
Well, sorry. They all come to your show in Edinburgh. Sorry for you. My apologies. For crying out loud.
Bob the Drag Queen
For crying out loud. You know, I have to say I love Edinburgh.
Monet X Change
We have to get into the episode.
Bob the Drag Queen
We do. We know. I have to go soon.
Monet X Change
All right, so our first. First of all, we're meeting the queens, and the first queen to ever sashay into the workroom is Chanel.
Bob the Drag Queen
Chanel Imon Diamond. Dupree.
Monet X Change
That is not her name. Just so everyone knows. There is. There is someone named Chanel Iman Diamond. It is not this woman.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wait, Bob, before you even do that, they show. Before this episode starts, they show the trailer. And I have to say, if I was. I didn't see the trailer for that. I didn't know this was a show. If I would have seen the trailer. The trailer is very. It makes you want to watch the show. It is a very exciting trailer, and it's. It. It really sells the fucking show, in my opinion.
Monet X Change
So let me. Let me just say that I was flipping through TiVo. That's how long ago this was. Flipping through TiVo. Could be. And I had just moved to New York City, and I found out there was a channel called Logo, which is just all gay. Everything on the channel was gay. And I was like, oh, I'm gonna watch Logo, which, to be fair, did not really have great programming. It really did not, especially.
Bob the Drag Queen
But I think they were showing reruns of Noah's Ark.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I mean. Yeah. I mean, also, we talk about. I was telling someone, like, I. I didn't watch L Word or Queer as Folk growing up. I'm not sure I Watched. I only watched two gay shows. I watch Will and Grace, and I watch Noah's Ark. Those are the only two, like, queer shows that I watched as a young one, as a. As a. As an ed. As an adolescent. I was a. I was an adult when I started watching Drag Race, but I was looking through TiVo and I saw that RuPaul had a show, and I was like, I am watching. I was like, RuPaul has a show. And I tivoed it and I went to work and I came home and then I watched it and I was like, oh, my God, this show is amazing. I was.
Bob the Drag Queen
You saw episode one, season one.
Monet X Change
Episode one, season one. I have been watching in real time since episode one, season one.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wow, you're really. You, you. You're really out here. You're a fan.
Monet X Change
I am a fan. And I just. I just saw. And the first Drag Race girl that I ever saw live was Nina Flowers at the Ritz. Nina Flowers came to the Ritz, and it was so packed, like, you could not even.
Bob the Drag Queen
It was so bad.
Monet X Change
No. So packed, you could. Like, I was. I just was like, standing at the very back of the Ritz, like, and. Because, like, what the Ritz is, it's like a bar and then like a tunnel, like a. Like a hallway and then a dance floor. Not a very big dance floor. The dance floor is maybe like twice as wide as the hallway. Like maybe three times as wide as the hallway, literally. And I'm like, trying to look over and see Nina Flowers performing in this absolutely jam packed nightclub. And she's the first RU Girl. Well, post Ru girl that I saw. I saw. I met Mimi M. First, before she was ever on Drag Race. The first girl I saw. First time I saw a girl from RuPaul's Drag Race, after RuPaul's Drag Race was Nina Flowers. And it was a really. I was like, I can't believe that I'm. I can't believe Nina Flowers is here. This is crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
Is Nina still around?
Monet X Change
Yeah, she's a DJ. She DJs. I think she's from Denver. I think she lives in Denver now.
Jacob
Denver?
Monet X Change
Yeah. Who's your first Drag Race girl? You saw the.
Bob the Drag Queen
My first Drag Race girl I saw. I don't wanna. I feel bad saying this. I'm not really trying to start any drama, but it's the truth. I saw Sharon Needles in Hell's Kitchen saying profanities and.
Monet X Change
Oh, yeah, I remember. Yeah. At the Ritz.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yep. Some racist stuff.
Monet X Change
Always the Ritz. Always the Ritz. So. So so as we, as we judge the girls, we are, we are going to. Well, I can't speak for money. I'm going to be judging them through the lens of seeing it. Back in 2008 or 2009, whenever this came out, that's how I'm going to be judging. How about you? Are you going to be. Are you going to be giving them through the All Stars lens?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I'm going to.
Monet X Change
Some of these girls have been on All Stars.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. But I'm going to judge them as I, as, as in the time. Like, you can't judge this. Drag Race is a game. Is a completely different show now. Well, actually not really, because I haven' note later on, but in terms of fashion, it was just a different thing. So you can't look at it the same way. That's like, that's like people going back and watching old things. With Judy Garland, I'm like, Judy Garland was doing blackface. I'm like, well. Or she was in a thing with someone that did blackface. Like, how come we're not chastising?
Monet X Change
Oh, she did blackface.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was like, well, it was a. Yes, it was bad. It was a different time, though. That was not common practice, but people often did it.
Monet X Change
But she laughed about it.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I'm kidding. I don't know.
Monet X Change
I don't know the shit of that. So Chanel. So Chanel walks in and she is wearing this like zebra print. I don't even know if they are. There's like a squiggly thing. I actually like this outfit. Even for today. I love this outfit. I think Chanel looks amazing.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think so. Now. Looks amazing. I love this hair. I do like this outfit. I don't think I would like it now if it was now. I would want the pants to be something different, but I love that her ass is out. I love this, this, this, this, this stole she has hanging on her hand. I think her body looks. She looks incredible. Chanel, huh?
Monet X Change
What's wrong with the pants?
Bob the Drag Queen
To me, it's just such a stark with that, with this black and white thing with like bodies color. I, I would just want a different color pants or maybe a different texture.
Monet X Change
Interesting. I love this outfit. I think she looks stunning. And I guess we'll get to the photo shoot. We'll go, go back and do the photo shoot. We just do the intro. I love that she says she's the Barbra Streisand of drag. Is she still. Do you think she's still called the Barbra Streisand? Of drag. What?
Bob the Drag Queen
She said that. What is the. What is. She explained it, but I was.
Monet X Change
I didn't write the comment because she. Because she's aggressive, because she's talented, and because she, like, demands her way and she can be bitchy.
Bob the Drag Queen
Barbra Streisand was aggressive. I know she was.
Monet X Change
She was very known as a bitch.
Bob the Drag Queen
Really?
Monet X Change
Yes. Barbra Streisand is so if you heard of the Barbra Streisand effect, Google it. Barbra Streisand, like, went to task because this guy took a photo of her house from a drone. But not just her house. He was, like, taking pictures of the coast of California, and she was like, not my. Not my house, honey.
Bob the Drag Queen
How did she know? Did she be like, oh, drones?
Monet X Change
Because someone like Pingo was like, oh, your house is in this project, this guy where he's taking pictures of the entire coast to California, and she lives on the coast. And because she was like, you can't take a picture of my house. Then everyone went and googled it because she. So when she painted, it had, like, four views. But after she made a big stink about it, it has, like, millions and millions of views. Now everyone knows. Knows what her house looks like and where it is.
Bob the Drag Queen
Cher lives on the coast too. If anyone's in California, you're driving up that Malibu highway. Cher. I mean, let me put share business out, but Cheryl lives in Malibu on the coast.
Monet X Change
You know, Sher gonna start a podcast and say where you live. She's gonna be like, go to my. Go to my Twitter for the. Or my. Go to my X page. It's not Twitter anymore. My X page for the. For Monet's coordinates. Sure. Put an air tag on you. One of those little Apple tags.
Bob the Drag Queen
Sometimes I get alerts that someone is following me or that this air tag has. And I'm like, oh, my God, did someone tag my car with one?
Monet X Change
Just because someone near you are probably on the plane with you or in the same restaurant as you.
Bob the Drag Queen
But this happened to me. I was. I was at the airport and I was, okay, that's fine. When I got home, I was still getting the notification.
Monet X Change
And that's a coincidence. And don't check into it. And Jacob, make sure the tag is still.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let's go on to the next queen. To enter, do we charge flowers?
Monet X Change
They say they're. They're. They're out of drag names.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, yeah, I wrote that too. Everyone introduced themselves by boy names. I was like, hello, my name is
Monet X Change
Jorge Flores, but my dragon name is Nina, But I'm Also known as Nina Flowers. After they stopped doing that, like, season two, they, like, immediately stopped that.
Bob the Drag Queen
They watched that back. They was like, we shouldn't do that anymore. And I think Nina looks great. This hair is fierce. This fucking outfit is dope. Her makeup, Nina is such a. I love Nina's drag.
Monet X Change
Yeah. This look is amazing. This look stands up still today.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
The mug. Everything about this look is so. It combines so many elements. Like, there's, like, a 60s vibe. There's a club kid vibe. There's a Barbarella vibe. There's so much going on in here. That's so amazing. She looks like a superhero. This is really, really cool.
Bob the Drag Queen
Also, I know this is. Y'.
Shannon Maldonado
All.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is before entrance lines, so people didn't have interest lines. They were just saying, like, literally, like, hey.
Jacob
Yeah.
Monet X Change
I was like, my goodness. Oh, wow, wow, wow.
Bob the Drag Queen
People say they filmed it in the basement of. Wow. I don't think so. It's way too.
Monet X Change
That's a joke. That's a joke. I actually was trying to find where they filmed it, because when they walk away from the thing, you can see in it, you can see a partial of an address and a building name on the building across the street. And I was trying to Google it and find out where that is, but I couldn't quite figure it out. I didn't have enough time because I watched it right before filming.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. You see?
Monet X Change
But I will be on the case. Do what?
Bob the Drag Queen
Nothing.
Monet X Change
Worry about the air tag attached to you. Worry about the tracking device that's been placed on you.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wait, we have BB next. But she didn't come into the work room next. She was last.
Monet X Change
Well, I guess we're gonna do anyway, because she's up next.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wow.
Monet X Change
And Jay's not. Jay's not in there. Jacob, by the way, Jade's picture is not in there, so I guess we'll just use.
Jacob
Yeah. So there. It was hard to find a good photo of her because, like, they show her entering because she. She doesn't, like, have a full entrance look. And, like, there aren't great stills of her. So that her photo shoot photo is really the best thing I could find of her whole office.
Monet X Change
That's fine. Let's just kill baby, then. All right, so. So let's go. So Jade Sotomayor. Jay looks really good, actually. She looks stunning.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I think Jay looks good. She didn't have, like, a lot of these, like, Nina Chanel. A lot of these students have big energy coming. I think the. Well, yeah, they have big energy coming in But I didn't get that from Jade.
Monet X Change
We did not get a lot of Jade this episode. This was a very quiet episode for Jade. And if I recall correctly, there's a lot of talk about Jade's penis this season. Like, a lot. Like, a lot of talk. Spoiler alert. About why she can't tuck properly because it's so big. If I recall, it's been. It's. I have not watched this in about 15 years, so I'm trying to remember, but I believe there's a lot of talk about Jade's, like, meaty tuck.
Bob the Drag Queen
Got it. All right, let's go on to Ms.
Monet X Change
Angina Onina is she looks like.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like a cunty Peter Pan. Like a cunty pirate.
Monet X Change
To the c. To the kind of kind of pan. C. To the. To the kind of kind of pan. Fly for. Fly. For Fly, fly, fly, fly, Cunt. To the. To the kind of kind of pan. Never, never, never, never land. Never, never, never, never, never, never, never never land. I.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I think this is. This is cute. I like this outfit. I do like this outfit. I like this. I think this is cute. I think it's. I think it's fashion. I like this corset with this, like, fluffy top and these pants. I think it's cute.
Monet X Change
She's so fashionable, and I remember immediately loving Angina. Like, as soon as she walked through the door, I was like, I love her. And just being like that. I'm so excited to see this queen on my TV screen. And she really has had some of the best moments in the history of Drag Race on the show from this season. She did so many iconic moments, and she's really set a standard for a lot of things on this season. And I. I'm a big fan of Angina.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, she turned it.
Monet X Change
Let's go. Rebecca Glasscock, who was one of my first friends when I moved to New York City, actually.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, yeah, she moved to New York, right?
Monet X Change
Yeah. Javier. Yeah. Yeah. When she first moved to J City, we were like, good Judy's. And we hung out together.
Jacob
Oh, really?
Monet X Change
For, like, maybe like a year and a half, two years. And then we kind of just. Then she moved back to Florida, and then we just kind of moved in different circles and kind of felt like,
Bob the Drag Queen
do you think you're just friends with her so you can one day get on Drag Race? Do you think that's what happened?
Monet X Change
Probably not, but maybe there was a secret, secret undercurrent. I never even thought about auditioning to Drag Race until season, like, four.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, good.
Monet X Change
Rebecca.
Bob the Drag Queen
Cock is fully going to the mall. I mean, now there's casual drag. This is liter something from the mall.
Monet X Change
Mon. I'm not trying to be funny, but this is. This is essentially what you're wearing when you do your standup. This is like, this is outfit.
Bob the Drag Queen
You won't even wear a corset. You won't even tuck for your stand up.
Monet X Change
Monet. Can we put up, can we put up a picture of Monet up here in. In essentially this outfit? And by the way, this, this is in 2023 that you're out here wearing a pair of jeans. Wearing a pair of jeans for the mall.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm not walking into RuPaul's Drag Race.
Monet X Change
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're at a gig where you're being paid thousands and thousands and thousands. And I know exactly how much you get paid because I do the exact same gigs, but my tickets cost a little bit more than yours, honey.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob, put your screen off.
Monet X Change
Yeah, you and wilding out. Yeah.
Jacob
How about.
Monet X Change
Yeah, this is your wilding out, but you are walking onto a television show.
Jacob
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
You want to come into wilding out in a ball gown looking crazy.
Monet X Change
I would have.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, looking crazy. I would've that scans, but I miss
Monet X Change
you at a tank top in 2023.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm doing stand up.
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Monet X Change
And Rebecca Glasscock had me rolling. She's hilarious. I was dying laughing. I actually think so. Thinking back, I remember thinking myself how absolutely stunning she is. She's so. She is really good looking. Her drag is. Her makeup is just so. She has. She really has a great face for drag. And she really is that young ingenue type character that she, that we, that we. That you really need on tv. And she's giving it full on. Like, I agree.
Bob the Drag Queen
She looks great. Those lips, those eyes. She's. She, she's great.
Monet X Change
Akasha girl.
Bob the Drag Queen
Akasha. She comes into the room and she is reading Chanel in the first minute in the room. She's like, yeah, she has her butt showing. Hers is Flabby, but mine. And it's what moves a lot. Mine is muscle. It don't move. I was like, damn.
Monet X Change
I mean, she's giving good tv. She's giving good tv. I mean, I'm so grateful to these girls. They really are blueprinting. They're blueprinting. They told. They showed us how to do this show. And Akasha is a great. She also has some amazing moments this season. She has some growth. She had victory, she had failures. She's charming. She's funny. She's feisty. She better work. I. Yeah, she. She better work.
Bob the Drag Queen
She's very funny. This outfit. I like this outfit. I think I wish the pants were longer, but also. I get it. She probably bought this from a thing or maybe someone made this. I don't know. Someone. Someone could have made this as well. But the pants are high waters. Other than that, I like the outfit, and I wish you would have a little padding in the hip. Just give a little more this.
Monet X Change
I think RuPaul is the only queen wearing padding this entire season. Maybe I need to go back and look again. Also, is it just me or can Akasha not walk in heels?
Bob the Drag Queen
I didn't notice that.
Monet X Change
I was like, I don't think Akasha can walk in heels very well. It's kind of clumpy when she walks.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, I didn't notice that.
Monet X Change
So let's go on to Tammy Brownisha Brown. So interesting. I forgot how.
Bob the Drag Queen
She is.
Monet X Change
What was that break? You weren't looking? I was doing. I was doing her expressions. Oh, like with the. The.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. And I forget how thin Tammy used to draw her eyebrows because now she doesn't do it anymore. But it's so interesting because they've gotten huge.
Monet X Change
Actually. They've gotten. Actually, they were. There was a stage where they were
Bob the Drag Queen
gigantic, which is because her natural brows are big but didn't dry. But also, this is the era. This is in, like, late odds where people would. The thin brow was a thing.
Shannon Maldonado
People.
Bob the Drag Queen
Everyone was thin browing.
Monet X Change
I'm kind. I'm. I'm into this look. I'm into Tammy Brown's look, actually. I think she looks really good. I think she looks really cool. I mean, this. Using your natural hairline is a choice when. When this is the hairline you have, you know, But. And this is coming from someone with a much more compromised hairline than Terry Brown had at this time.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm gonna be.
Monet X Change
What?
Bob the Drag Queen
This is an interesting choice for someone with a receding ass hairline like this.
Monet X Change
Not what I said. What I said was, when this is your hairline, it's interesting to use your natural hairline. It's an interesting choice is all I'm saying. Like, I wouldn't use my hairline, but where.
Bob the Drag Queen
What hairline?
Monet X Change
I have a hairline one. This is my hairline. My hairline is this. Let me show you guys. This is my actual hairline. Okay? It goes like this. That's my hairline. Like, it starts back here, goes back to there, and then comes down. That's my hairline. Now show us yours, bitch. But, yeah, but I still love this look, though. Like, it's such a cool look. I don't. I don't understand the faces she. But she's making these faces throughout the entire episode. Like, every time you. Rebecca Lasso's.
Jacob
Right?
Monet X Change
She's always looking and winking and. And I would be exhausted.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I wonder when. Like, how did the. How did they find out about these auditions? Right? Like, how did they find? Like, were, like, people just, like, going out to gay bars and telling girls, or was it, like, a Craigslist ad? People responded because people auditions. You auditions used to be posted on Craigslist all the time for things like, I'm wondering, how did the ape, like, the calls go out for this audition?
Monet X Change
Paul used to go out to these bars. RuPaul used to go to the bars and, like, work this. Didn't you hear that? We probably used to work the spotlight at, like, some bar in LA. RuPaul showed up, and they're like, we don't have a spotlight. RuPaul's like, I'll do it. It's like pre Drag Race. And I remember Peaches Christ being told pretty early on, they were like, oh, we're doing this show. We should do a screening here with you, Peaches Christ. We're doing this show. It's called RuPaul's Drag Race. It's gonna be great. Like, all. It was, like, it was so low key back in the day, and RuPaul was running.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wait, what the spotlights are. I'm talking, like, you just say that. Like, he used to just. He used to go out about. And just be in the club. Just chilling.
Monet X Change
Yeah. At the club. And then Delta working them were out at the club one night and then doing their show, the Showgirls. I think I might not have been showgirls. Dream girls. Dream girls, yeah. Because Showgirls said Mickey's. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
And it might not been that. It was somewhere and RuPaul, and they didn't have a Spotlight person. Rupaul just did the spotlight for them.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's hilarious. Imagine today, RuPaul just shows up. Mickey's like, y' all do it
Monet X Change
for $80,000.
Bob the Drag Queen
He did ruble in the boots up my son. That's wild. Oh, my God.
Monet X Change
So let's go on to Victoria Pork Chop Parker, who is so charming. I was immediately charmed by her.
Bob the Drag Queen
I wasn't charmed by them thin ass eyebrows that she had on either, but I. She is charming. I do like her look. I love this hair.
Monet X Change
Yeah. I think she looks great. I think Victoria looks great. I love her outfit. I love her style. I really like her makeup and her hair. I think she looks stunning. I was really sad to see her go first, but not that I wanted anyone else to go. I just. I was just sad. I remember being sad to see her go because I wanted to see about someone who had been doing drag for as long as she has. She had 21 years.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's wild.
Monet X Change
So she's now been doing drag for 36 years?
Bob the Drag Queen
21 plus eight. No, this. Oh, no.
Monet X Change
She was drag in 1987. She's been doing 36 years.
Bob the Drag Queen
Damn. Good for her. Good for her.
Monet X Change
Yeah. She's really. I was so sad to see her go. And people say she's come back, which it would great see her come back. But, I mean, I. I'd be annoyed. I'd be like, now that I'm 36, I've been doing this for 36 years. I would love. I would love to have gotten my great opportunity at like, year 15 would have been great. How long you been doing drag?
Bob the Drag Queen
I've been doing drag for. What's it. Since 2012. So that's.
Monet X Change
That's 11 years money about to have a nose bleach.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, God.
Monet X Change
So let's go now. Let's go.
Bob the Drag Queen
The BB's are. Harry.
Monet X Change
They are. Can I just say, the elegance, the grace, the dignity. I really feel like this show is so lucky to have Bibi Zahara Bene on it. And I'm not being camp. Like, I was immediately obsessed with this drag queen. I bring a lot of international influence.
Bob the Drag Queen
I. I wrote down BB walking like she's. That she's auditioning to be a White House press secretary. She walked in and she was just
Monet X Change
like, with, with that big ass purse. She had a, like a. The purse of an actual mother. A massive purse she's carrying. And she walked in like it was like. Like the, like it was the Sasha Kobe meet greeting. She was Sasha Kobe. Like, she was letting these. I'm Obsessed. I. And I knew she was gonna win.
Bob the Drag Queen
I love this hair. I think the hair looks really great on her too. I love this whole look because with. I love, I love a minute, a little black dress with black tights. I think that is such a good look.
Monet X Change
But yeah, I think she looks good. And I love, I love the, I love the kitty cat on her. She looks so elegant. I really, that, you know, she's the reason I wear black lipstick for the first like five years of my career.
Jacob
Gag.
Bob the Drag Queen
So she's the one.
Monet X Change
She's the one, the only one. She's one of one. She's so RuPaul walks in at the age of 48. RuPaul is 48 years old when they film or probably 47 next when they film the season of Drag Race, but she's not even 50 yet.
Bob the Drag Queen
Gag. And she looks also. It's so funny to hear how her voice has changed again. She's. She's 15 years old. Oh, her voice is so, it's kind of like you watch old videos of Beyonce, like from 15 years ago as well, and your voice is just much lighter. It's just, you know, over time your voice gets a little heavy. It's so interesting to hear her change in the, in the, in the, in the tonality of the voice, of her voice.
Monet X Change
I don't even want to. My voice is going to go because when I hear my voice just from Drag Race, which was just eight years ago, I sound so different.
Bob the Drag Queen
Rubber up here. He's like, yeah, ladies. So yeah, I said, you're here, we're in Hollywood and we're going to film the show. Now he's more like here. He's like, yeah, ladies. Well, you know, I need. It's a slight. You can hear it a little bit.
Monet X Change
I don't think I have the ear to hear such a subtle difference. I need to hear the gravel of 22 year old, 37 year old Bob versus 22 year old Caldwell landing in New York City. Being like, I'm in LaGuardia.
Bob the Drag Queen
I wrote RuPaul makes a Trump reference and a Tyra Banks wearing a fat suit in July. And I'm like, it is so interesting the things that were topical and like the pop culture back then. It's so. It's a little Easter egg.
Monet X Change
You need to be more enterprising than Donald Trump and more something than Oprah Winfrey.
Bob the Drag Queen
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Bob the Drag Queen
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Monet X Change
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Monet X Change
1-800-contacts. So they do this photo shoot. Let's do a quick bing, bang, boom on the photo shoot.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, Ru looks wild in the roommail. Rue looks insane.
Monet X Change
Oh, yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you think Ruda is making for this or this? Was Matthew on. Matthew started season two.
Monet X Change
I don't know. I assume this is Matthew because Matthew's been with RuPaul since way before Drag Race. Like, Matthew Paul, you know that Matthew and Zaldi used to date, and they used to be, like, creative partners.
Bob the Drag Queen
What?
Monet X Change
Yes. So Matthew and Zaldi were dating, and they were working on RuPaul at the time as, like, I do your. I do her outfits, you do her hair and makeup and take her photos, and we create the supermodel of the world image.
Bob the Drag Queen
I had no idea. So does all make the you better work supermodel?
Monet X Change
I don't know. I don't know exactly which Bizalti has been working with RuPaul for. Since Supermodel was always been with RuPaul for a very long time. Very, very long time.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's right.
Monet X Change
I want.
Bob the Drag Queen
I wonder. I wonder if. Rude just. I wonder if he gets paid per look now or since Drag Race or he gets, like, a budget for the show and he just makes a bunch of shit. I wonder.
Monet X Change
I'm not sure. I mean, I should probably probably ask the costume designers from where here. It's probably something similar where there's a. There's a wardrobe budget, but then there's also probably a salary for the. Actually, I have no clue. I'm talking like, I know I don't work in wardrobe. I do not know. I don't know why I'm acting. I know. Let's go through these looks. And. And so the thing about photo shoots, I don't trust a reality TV show photo shoot. They will use whatever picture they want to get whatever story they want.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yep. Because they're not telling me this was Chanel's best look. We saw what she was doing. You cannot tell me this was her best one.
Monet X Change
Well, I think she looks good. I'm more focused on how dirty they did Victoria Pork Chop Parker. You cannot convince me that that was Victoria's best one. Where they Were like, well, you got to look at the camera. I'm sure she did. That was one of the notes. Victoria, you have to look at the camera, bitch.
Bob the Drag Queen
That being said, my top looks were Nina Bibi. I like Jade a lot too. Those are my top ones. Nina, Bibi, and Jade.
Monet X Change
I'm gonna leave the top one to Jade. Jade looks amazing. Jade knows her angles so well. She looks so stunning. And the guys are not pulling focus at all. Like, you barely look at Nina.
Bob the Drag Queen
Nina is her. That leg is up. She's looking straight down the brow of the camera. She has one hand behind the head. Like, Nina looks like she is like she's like an evil villain and she is luring them into. She's gonna fuck them and steal their souls.
Monet X Change
I agree. The only reason I'm giving to Jade is because Nina's sharing the spotlight with the. With the hot guys. And with Jade, they vanish into the background magically, somehow.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know what? We. I wish this may be a very lofty goal for Cinema Rivalry. I wish one day that we can get a bunch of the Drag Race photo shoots together and we get Tyra Banks as our special guest and have her, like, pick which one would. Which one she would have, like, made win for the week. That could be so fun.
Monet X Change
Have you ever seen Tara Banks in real life? No.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was supposed to do her for my talk show, remember? But I was caught in Asia.
Monet X Change
I saw her when I went to go watch Dancing with the Stars, and she's the host.
Bob the Drag Queen
How. How is.
Jacob
How.
Monet X Change
She's stunning.
Bob the Drag Queen
She's a beautiful woman.
Monet X Change
Tara Banks is absolutely stunning. She. It's like you're looking at a supermodel, which you are.
Bob the Drag Queen
Was she. What did you, like, Were you, like, next to her?
Monet X Change
No, she was pretty far away. She was on the. She was like. I was on the opposite side. So the, The.
Jacob
The.
Monet X Change
The. The dance thing is a rectangle. Is a, Like a rectangle. So obviously it's longer on the sides and shorter on. On two other sides.
Bob the Drag Queen
Thank you for rectangle to us, Bob. We appreciate it.
Monet X Change
Anyway, so I wasn't lengthwise. I was width wise away from her, so she wasn't super, super far. But she was in the spotlight and she's very tall, and she's just say, that's my question.
Bob the Drag Queen
Does she. Does she give. Does she look. Does she feel as tall as she looks on film?
Monet X Change
Yes, she looks like a supermodel. She. I mean, she is a supermodel. And it looks like you're looking at a. At an. At an incredibly beautiful Person work. Love it. Yeah, it does. It was giving. I was very excited to still look at her. So RuPaul, I love this Southwest Airlines
Bob the Drag Queen
shout out because the sponsor Mac and Southwest, we're like for the episode we need at least three mentions, baby.
Monet X Change
Like Southwest, like because it's really funny because one of the, one of the pre roll trailers is RuPaul being I flew you first class in this competition. Not on Southwest, you didn't.
Bob the Drag Queen
Not on Southwest. They short the fuck though because of cattle call.
Monet X Change
I flew you Southwest to this competition. The grand prize is $20,000.
Bob the Drag Queen
$20,000 and a cover in paper magazine. And you get to be. You do the Absolute Vodka tour.
Monet X Change
Did you, did you also an LA Works campaign. They did a big like top winning money winners of. Of Drag Race. And I think you're like number nine or ten out of like all the. Out of. Is that it? Out of. Out of everyone who's ever won money from Drag Race, you're like in the top 10. Take it up with, Take it up with the eight girls who are ahead of you. Take it up with Jinx Monsoon. Take it up with Trinity.
Bob the Drag Queen
She's number one, right?
Monet X Change
Yeah, Jinx number one.
Jacob
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
I also did. You did notice this? Rue walks in and he shakes everyone's hand. Imagine today, Pre Covid.
Monet X Change
Well, there was no structure. They're not lined up.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know what I mean?
Monet X Change
Yeah, yeah. And also Jacob's old boss is here. Mike Ruiz.
Bob the Drag Queen
Mike Ruiz is.
Monet X Change
So Jacob told boss, I know he
Bob the Drag Queen
used to work as his assistant. You won't stop telling us.
Monet X Change
Do you have any exposing stories, Jacob? Jacob once stole a hat from. From Paris Hilton.
Jacob
Hat from Paris Hilton. She left the hat at a photo shoot and it had been over a year and Mike is like, was like, do you want this hat? Paris Hilton left it at a photo shoot a year ago and I don't think she's going to come back for it. So I was like, okay. And I took that hat.
Monet X Change
Do you still have it?
Jacob
I mean, do I still have it? It's probably somewhere in my parents basement or attic, but I don't know where it is. But I do own it still, I'm sure.
Monet X Change
What are you laughing at? One day you say you sell something for Madonna. No. Yes, you did. Give it to me. I'll take it back. Give it to me. Give me what you stole from that. I'll take it back to her right now.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh my God. Stop saying I sold it for Madonna.
Monet X Change
Over and over on the podcast, you're the one who said It. What did you steal from her? You said you stole a wig.
Bob the Drag Queen
A wig. No, I did not.
Monet X Change
What did you steal from Madonna? Give it to me. I'll take it back.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was. I was kidding, girl.
Monet X Change
And Jacob, bring that and give God Mick a Paris Hilton's hat. We're. We're collecting debts today, honey.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, it was on the God Control music video, and it was a ring.
Monet X Change
Oh, the ring that you swore you had forever that I wore the ring.
Bob the Drag Queen
The one that you stole. Do not gaslight me about this. We've already figured it out. Do not. We're not going back. And yeah, straighten your face.
Monet X Change
So you stole the ring. Yeah, so you stole the ring and you're mad that someone said someone. That's. So you stole it, left it at my house, and then acted like I stole it from you. Just by the way. We're not going to revisit it. But just so you all don't know if those. You don't know what. What axe happened with this ring is monetary. Left a ring at my house and then accused me of stealing the ring. And then I gave it back to her immediately upon asking for it. Immediately upon asking for it. But I did Photoshop some pictures of me wearing the ring first and acted like it was my ring. That we did do. But Monet left the ring in my house and then said I stole it from her. Monet would also come. Monet comes to my house and picks things up and goes, is this mine? No, bitch Money loves to be in my home and go, oh, my God, this is I. I have we bun. Yeah, me too. I'm a drag. Money. I'm a drag queen too. I also have weave bond in my house. Don't spit my or money one time picked up 20. I found 20. You did not find 20 in my house. You stole 20. Put my money down.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, because sometimes I've lost money, so I'm like, not in my house.
Monet X Change
You didn't. Oh, so the only.
Bob the Drag Queen
I can't lose money at your house.
Monet X Change
You haven't lost money at my house. I say, you can't say you haven't lost money at my house. Let's keep going with the episode. Talk about gaslighting.
Bob the Drag Queen
Also, I noticed Akasha wants to fuck everyone. She thinks that Rebecca's hot. She's someone else. And she's like.
Monet X Change
I was like, oh, I love how
Bob the Drag Queen
she also just confronts Rebecca. She's like, Rebecca. So everybody's asking about your lips. We all think that they're being honest. Was like,
Monet X Change
not.
Bob the Drag Queen
We all Think. Yeah, we all.
Monet X Change
We. We've all conferred. I. I've consulted with the judges, but the final decision is mine to make. I think your lips are fake. RuPaul comes in and announced that they're going to be doing drag on a Dime as the ch. Which is. They're going to be. Matt. Cosmetic is going to give you some makeup. They're going to give you some underwear from the lot. And. But they're going to have. You're going to have to accessorize the clothing with stuff from the dollar store. And this is the first time that we ever hear the phrase charisma, uniqueness, nerve, and cunt.
Bob the Drag Queen
And he makes him say it twice. He's like, say it with me.
Monet X Change
I. It took me, I think, maybe four or five seasons before I realized what they were doing. Literally, Literally.
Bob the Drag Queen
Damn. No, illiterally.
Monet X Change
Oh, I know. It's very funny.
Bob the Drag Queen
And RuPaul always makes a challenge. And Chanel is like, Mama, I have $25,000 worth of concerts with me. And she's like, listing all these things that she had. This is that she ends with. And I even have Versace buckles on.
Monet X Change
Yeah, things. Things with Versace buckles on them. That. That I. I remember that, too. I have things with Versace buckles on. Not Versace.
Bob the Drag Queen
Not Versace.
Monet X Change
I have things with ve buckles on them.
Bob the Drag Queen
That is. I was correct.
Monet X Change
So, Jacob, can I talk about this? Jacob, are you okay if I talk about this one thing? We'll see.
Bob the Drag Queen
He doesn't know.
Monet X Change
Yeah, yeah, that's fine. Is it okay, Jacob? So Jacob. Jacob's like, is into these. Into these knockoffs, and Jacob found this place that will sell the Prada label. They just. And then you just put it on something. So he has, like, a product tie, but they just send you a. He just goes and buys a tie, and then you just put a product label on it.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's hilarious.
Monet X Change
Honestly, it's kind of iconic. Jacob's kind of eating, like, one day, me and J. One day, Jacob and I will do a YouTube video for the channel where we review some. Because I recently went to Greece, where they were. They do a lot of knockoffs in Turkey. In Greece, there's a lot of knockoffs. So I bought a real.
Bob the Drag Queen
In the city. Like, knockoffs. Like that.
Monet X Change
Yeah, but they have, like, full storefronts, though. They're not like, on the street. They're like. They're like, full storefronts work. So I bought a real Louis Vuitton bag, and I bought a fake Louis Vuitton bag. And then I want to just get a bunch of the. And I bought some real Balenciaga shoes. I'm gonna get like a bunch of knockoffs and real stuff and do a video where we can try to see if we can get someone to see like if they're. Which one is which one?
Bob the Drag Queen
I wanted. I can tell.
Monet X Change
You think you can tell?
Bob the Drag Queen
Absolutely.
Monet X Change
Okay, well, I, well I gotta get my hands on a real Birkin bag, which I've been trying to do for a while, but they're just, they're just so expensive. They're just so expensive.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob, stay rolling down the river. They start to get ready.
Monet X Change
Well, oh, Jacob, people want a video of you doing the thing. People want to, people want to know what it looks like when you do that. Just maybe, maybe record a video of yourself doing it. Because people want to see what it looks like when Jake, Jake.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob's going to get in full drag just to be like, oh girl, Jacob's
Monet X Change
going to be in, Jake's going to be in. Jacob is not going to be. Jake would be like in lighting, angled
Bob the Drag Queen
his Gucci, his, his Gucci suit.
Monet X Change
But usually it'd be Jacob like,
Jacob
oh,
Bob the Drag Queen
I wrote down that they're getting ready and Victoria Porchard park is talking about sweating. Now this was before they had the machine of Drag Race, right? Like having. I cannot imagine how fucking hot those studios were. Like season one.
Monet X Change
Yeah. Because season one was, was filmed before air conditioning was invented. So I don't even know what it was like back then.
Bob the Drag Queen
The iconic story about how in season eight they couldn't have the AC on two sets, so when RuPaul was coming in, they would shut theirs down. So I can imagine.
Monet X Change
Yeah. So we, we filmed Drag Race in Hollywood and, and now they film it like far out in the Valley, somewhere in Sloma. And the, like the, the, the Hollywood studios are just way older. The, the, the, the Valley studios are really nice. So like typically people want to, A lot of people, if you ever drive through Burbank and you drive by Paramount Studio. Not Paramount, it's Warner Brothers Studios.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, wb. Warner Brothers.
Monet X Change
Those are so, they're so nice. I filmed on the one, I filmed on the Warner Brothers studios before. They're really, really, really nice. And this Hollywood studio was crunch tickety tonk down. It was, it was like so crunchy. It was so crunchy.
Bob the Drag Queen
Drag Race now is frigid. Like it is so cold. Like you be, you be. Everyone who's working for Drag Race is in parkas cuz it's that cold back there. Like, it is.
Monet X Change
So. Side note, I went to go see Les last night.
Bob the Drag Queen
The one in. Well, obviously in Hollywood.
Monet X Change
The one at. At. At the Pantages.
Bob the Drag Queen
Uhhuh.
Monet X Change
This is one of the best shows I have ever seen in my.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I want to go see. I've never seen it. Should I. Should I go see it?
Monet X Change
You need to go. It's. It's three hours long. It is an emotional roller coaster.
Bob the Drag Queen
I dream the dream.
Monet X Change
But also, it helps if you're familiar with Les Mis. I'm. I'm incredibly familiar with Les Mis. But this show.
Bob the Drag Queen
All I know is the hair buzzing scene. That's all I know. And this.
Monet X Change
It's not buzzing. It's that. It's not clippers, Mona. It's not like
Bob the Drag Queen
scissors. Yeah. That's awesome.
Monet X Change
The scene from Barbershop.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, we got.
Jacob
Let's.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can we get to. We got to get to the runways, Bob.
Monet X Change
Well, I want to say before we get to Runway, I want to talk about the walkthrough where. Where. Where these outfits is. So season one is so season one. Like, because they don't. We don't. They don't. They don't have the clues, like, embrace the materials and stuff. Like. Like, Rebecca last clock is like, I put a flask of water in the collar if you don't make this goddamn outfit. She was like, this just looks like it's from the rack. She go, I did put a fly sweater in the collar, and I was like, girl.
Bob the Drag Queen
Which is genius. To keep it stiffen up. That's genius.
Monet X Change
Yeah, but not to. It's not genius to keep you from getting eliminated. That's not genius.
Bob the Drag Queen
Rebecca Glasco. She's so beautiful.
Monet X Change
She really is, by the way, in and out of drag. Rebecca Glasscock is just stunning.
Bob the Drag Queen
Does she still do drag?
Monet X Change
I don't think she does anymore. She's an. I think last time I checked, she was an esthetician or maybe a flight attendant.
Bob the Drag Queen
I work. Do you know what? The flight attendant. I see them not all the time, but seldom I see them. Titania on Delta.
Monet X Change
Oh, Magnolia. Is a fight attended, too. A lot of flight attendants.
Bob the Drag Queen
Magnolia Crawford.
Monet X Change
Well, she was a. Fighting for a long time.
Bob the Drag Queen
I wouldn't even know who I know if.
Monet X Change
Titania from. From New York City. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Titania Steele from New York.
Monet X Change
Oh, yeah. She was so fierce.
Bob the Drag Queen
She was so fierce. We talk about it. We talk about it. We put the picture in an episode. One of the most iconic looks Bob and I have ever seen was that fucking mirrored look. It was everything anyway.
Monet X Change
Yeah, she was A sickening fucking queen.
Bob the Drag Queen
She truly was.
Monet X Change
So let's go on. So RuPaul makes her very first entrance on the main stage of RuPaul's Drag Race. I love this look.
Bob the Drag Queen
I love this look, too. I think it's very beautiful.
Monet X Change
I love the hair, the movement. Hair do what?
Bob the Drag Queen
The movement of the. Of the gown is beautiful.
Monet X Change
I'm surprised that Rue didn't choose to be blonde for the very first episode.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, she's like. Well, she's this redhead. Interesting.
Monet X Change
Also, I went to. I went to Renaissance. Almost everyone is blonde. I just rarely noticed.
Bob the Drag Queen
Beyonce made that. That's the thing. All the dancers have to be blonde. Every single one.
Monet X Change
Oh, and the musicians. And, like, there's. There's like. I think there's like, one or two guys who's not blonde. Like, his. Like, they're so short. Like, one of them was, like, bald or something. There's also this pregnant lady who plays trumpet that I'm obsessed with.
Jacob
When blue comes on, is she blonde? Who.
Monet X Change
Oh, no, Blue wasn't blonde, I don't think. I don't think blue was blonde.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, blue is the only person. Yeah. Imagine Beyonce like, blue wanna be the stomach. Gotta be blonde, baby.
Monet X Change
That's my kin, folk. There's this pregnant lady playing trumpet, and I. I don't know what. I love her. Like, I just am obsessed. And there's one dancer who kind of looks like a very young Lillius White, who I'm also like. I can't stop looking at her. I could not, like, every time. I can't be like, oh, my gosh, she looks like Lilies White. Back when she did, like, once on this island.
Bob the Drag Queen
The thick girl.
Monet X Change
Yeah. And this fucking pregnant drum player. I kept being like, this bitch is about to pop out a. A C note and a baby.
Bob the Drag Queen
Have you seen. Have you seen that fucking. I don't know why I'm going so hard. This TikTok of this guy, like, compiling all of. All of Beyonce's unhinged moments on tour. It's so funny. They're like. Like, she, like, she just says, like, random words, and she's, like, making jokes, like, on during numbers. I'm like, I. This is hilarious. That she's just so funny is because.
Monet X Change
Because Beyonce doesn't do a lot of that. The bar for what's silly for her is so low. Like, for Cardi B, she'd have to be upside down with a. With a milkshake in her. But Beyonce goes like. And everyone's like, she's so crazy. And meanwhile. Meanwhile, like, the stuff that, like, some of these girls don't do, it is so wild.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
But, yeah, anyway, also, Michelle and Rue
Bob the Drag Queen
have been best friends forever. Michelle's on his show. Why do you think Michelle wasn't on the first season?
Monet X Change
I recommend you read the book the Diva Rules by Michelle Visage. It's actually a great book. I listened to it on audio, and it's a short listen. I think I listened to it in, like, one or two days. It took me, like, two car rides to get everything I need out of the book. She was in a contract with her radio show, and she could not leave. Yeah, she was in a contract, and she couldn't leave for the first couple seasons.
Bob the Drag Queen
Damn.
Monet X Change
So Mer Ginsburg.
Bob the Drag Queen
And as soon as the contract was done, R was like, merl, Bye.
Monet X Change
Essentially, you're not fully wrong. So let's go into these looks. Nina Flowers looks stunning.
Bob the Drag Queen
Everything.
Monet X Change
Amazing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Everything.
Monet X Change
This is.
Shannon Maldonado
This.
Monet X Change
It's very Vivian Westwood. It's very punk rock.
Bob the Drag Queen
They love seeing the Vivian Westwood thing. This is Vivian Westwood. Like, this look gives Vivian Westwood down. Nina looks so great. Like, this was fierce.
Monet X Change
Now, I agree. This is great today, on this very day. This look is absolutely stunning. I'm so glad we got Nina Flowers drag on the first season of Drag Race. We're so lucky. We're so blessed.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Let's go on to Ms. Akasha. And I don't know what's from the Dollar Store. It looks like. And I guess this is, like, a hat off to her and her sewing skills. But this looks like a dress that I would see a sexy bitch wearing in the club. Like, this looks good. The hair and the styling looks great. I just don't know what is. What is Dollar Store?
Monet X Change
Yeah, I don't. I don't get it either. I don't understand why this would be considered. I see why she was in the bottom because she didn't embrace materials. And RuPaul walked through and she's like, I, you. I really need you to use something from the Dollar Store. And I, I, I. Yeah. This just looks like she just, like, kind of repurposed the dress. Or maybe she took a dress and, like, cut it out or made it different. But it's. It's not giving Dollar Store at all. By the way, season one of Drag Race is keeping the kitty cat industry in business. Money. You missed your season. You missed your season.
Bob the Drag Queen
A single lace front on this show. These are all hardcore wigs.
Monet X Change
RuPaul's wearing a lace front. How dare you? How old are you doing the Season of Drag Race.
Bob the Drag Queen
How well would I do? How old were you in 2008? I was 18.
Monet X Change
It was 2009.
Bob the Drag Queen
What year? What month?
Monet X Change
February. 2009. February 2nd was it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was 18.
Monet X Change
They probably filmed it in 2008, though,
Bob the Drag Queen
so I was 18.
Monet X Change
Okay. I'm just. All I'm doing is telling you the year. That's literally. You said 2008. That's 2009. This is very aggressive. All you said was 2008. And I said, oh, it was actually 2009. I don't know what. The fight with the fist fight. Ever since I. Ever since I mentioned that Mitch was my friend, you've been acting crazy. You're like, we all know who. You have a friend, bitch. I'm like, all right.
Bob the Drag Queen
Also, I don't know what they're doing
Monet X Change
to you in Edinburgh, but you need to calm down.
Bob the Drag Queen
Laud, she's giving. Akasha's giving Adina Howard freak like me down.
Monet X Change
You know, Angina's runaway walk is etched into my brain like this walk. The way that she walked when she was doing the up scoop back, that is, like, etched into my brain. This was one of my favorite looks from the episode, actually.
Bob the Drag Queen
I love it. This is one of your.
Monet X Change
I loved it, Bob.
Bob the Drag Queen
She looks like a square. She has no shade. What do you mean you love it?
Monet X Change
She does have shape. The loofah's giving her the bulbous, and then the top is. This is a great silhouette.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're bugging. You're bugging.
Monet X Change
I just want to be clear. You legitimately think that the sponge dress was a better shape than this?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes.
Monet X Change
Muy interesante.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think that. I don't know.
Monet X Change
Also, side note, did you know that Rebecca Glasscock didn't speak English, like, four years before Drag Race?
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, really?
Monet X Change
She didn't speak a word of English.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wasn't a Swahili. What did she speak before that?
Monet X Change
Spanish. She's Puerto Rican.
Bob the Drag Queen
What?
Monet X Change
She's Puerto Rican. She spoke Spanish.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, I thought you said she spoke Spanish and Puerto Rican.
Monet X Change
I was like, that says Spanish. She's Puerto Rican.
Bob the Drag Queen
Got it.
Monet X Change
But a lot of. But a lot of space people tell you there is a difference between Spanish and Puerto Rican Dominican. They'd be like, dominic, there's Spanish and there's Dominican.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, they have different dialects. Sure. But they're. They're both.
Monet X Change
Yeah, they all speak Hispanic, but. But there's a. Act like, you don't live in New York City and know that Spanish speak people. People are like, they're Spanish, and there's them. Don't act like you've never heard a Puerto Rican. Be like, Dominicans. You acting like you ain't. Like you ain't never lived in New York City. You act brand new.
Bob the Drag Queen
I live in New York City. I. We're not gonna go into this.
Monet X Change
Are you.
Bob the Drag Queen
Anyway, let's go to the Porkchop, Parker.
Monet X Change
Or are you from Atlanta? Because it's like the one. You live there? Or are you from St. Lucia?
Bob the Drag Queen
This look.
Monet X Change
Or are you from New Jersey?
Bob the Drag Queen
This look is hideous. And I don't know what she was eating.
Monet X Change
I don't know either. It looked like Kashi Golen.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, really?
Monet X Change
It looks like some dry cereal. Like some sort of. Like a. By the way, you ever had Grape Nut cereal? Like, I love Grape Nut. I don't understand it as a concept.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't get it either.
Monet X Change
Anyway, yeah, she. This look is not great. But the first thing she said, though, as soon as she just wrote, she goes, I hate my outfit. That is the first thing she said. The moment just went away. She goes, I hate my outfit. I hate my way. And I let go. That makes. That makes thousands of us.
Bob the Drag Queen
That is so funny to me.
Monet X Change
It's not great. It's not a great look, but she
Bob the Drag Queen
lives on to Vivi Zahara Binet. And she looks great. She has that little. I guess you could call it a reveal. But it was cute. I think baby looks great.
Monet X Change
It was camp. It was camp. Yeah. Bibi looks great. She's so sickening. BB Is so elegant. Like, I love this drag queen. She's so elegant, and she really set the trend. Like, she is. Like she is. She really blueprinted a lot of us hoes. And that's. That's our.
Bob the Drag Queen
Our manager had a birthday 40 birthday party, and Bob and I went and Bibi came and BB Being on, and we had. They had some performance. Robin S Ultra. An alternate Robin S. Crystal Waters. Crystal Waters and Cece Penniston. And the three of us were just on the dance floor. Karen. And Bibi is just. She's just such a kiki. She's just so damn funny.
Monet X Change
Me, I am the boss. I got the sauce. I'm opulent. I bring too much sauce. Me, me, me, me, me, me. Meow.
Jacob
Can I say something really quick?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Jacob
I've met a lot of Drag Race girls, and, like, in general, Jaco in general, like, who they are in TV is going to be a little bit different for who they are in real life, because they're only. You're only seeing a part of them. On tv. BB Is exactly the way she is in tv. In real life, she is just like that all the time. What you're seeing on TV is Bibi all the time. And it is amazing.
Monet X Change
Yeah. The level of extra. Like, everyone's like, Valentina's so extra. Bebe walks so Valentina could run like she. Bibi's a harbornet, so Valentina can run.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay.
Monet X Change
BB Is in the. BB has been giving the BB experience full time for a very, very long time. She really has.
Bob the Drag Queen
She really has. Also today I forgot about how delicious. I don't know, it just randomly popped in my head and I was on the computer. I was like, oh, my God. Yeah, that Jesse Williams nude scene.
Monet X Change
And it is Jesse Williams.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jesse Williams, the guy from Grey's Anatomy. Black guy with the light eyes.
Monet X Change
I didn't watch. I didn't watch Grey's Anatomy.
Bob the Drag Queen
You. You look at him. You look him up, be like, oh, him. He was in a Broadway show called Take Me out and he has this new.
Monet X Change
Oh, no. Yeah, no, I heard about that. Yeah, no, that was. That was big news.
Bob the Drag Queen
I know. I remember back then. I decided to look it up again. And the video girl, just. Yo, that.
Monet X Change
Yo, y'.
Bob the Drag Queen
All. Y' all look it up. Go to. If y' all go to. What is it? Arrow me dot com. It's on there. The video. They have multiple scenes, multiple angles. Delicious.
Monet X Change
Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was a whole thing that he was nude on stage and. And apparently quite scrumptious or something.
Jacob
Everything.
Monet X Change
Anyway, back to. Back to discussing.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know why I thought about that when I thought about B.B. maybe I want to see B.B. nude. Let's go to Chanel.
Monet X Change
Amazing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Also, I like this. This graduates needs to do this. I didn't realize this put the girls Instagrams put their mentions on their. On your thing.
Monet X Change
Oh, wait, was this on this show?
Bob the Drag Queen
Apparently it's on the. It's on these gifts Jacob has in here. Like, I don't understand why she doesn't do that. Now under your name, it should be your mention.
Monet X Change
I don't think. Maybe it wasn't the show. I don't remember, to be honest. It has a little Twitter look. This look is great. She looks amazing.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is a great look. Chanel turned this out. I see the dollar store. I see the fashion. Her bot. Her. Chanel 8. 8.
Monet X Change
Yeah. She looks phenomenal. She did. She. To quote, she really did what needed to be done. This was so, so well done.
Bob the Drag Queen
And her walk is so good. The walk is so good.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I Agree. This is great. I think she could. She could have won the challenge too. It could have been. I also love. She was like, I can tell that the judges think I think I'm gonna win, so they're actively choosing not to give me anything.
Bob the Drag Queen
I live.
Monet X Change
She said, these want to humble me, but I will never be humbled, honey. And you should never be humbled.
Bob the Drag Queen
You shouldn't have to be, baby.
Monet X Change
Let's go on to Jade the Lion Queen. Jade Sotomayor. You know, this look is fine.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, it's fine. It's not. It's not bad. It's not good. It's just very middle of the road. It's fine.
Monet X Change
She said she's had such little camera time this episode, but, you know, girl
Bob the Drag Queen
ain't talk at all.
Monet X Change
Rebecca Glasscock. Her walk is not great.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Even when she walked and she. For her critiques, she came down there, she sat. Her legs were she. She. It was. Yeah, it's not great.
Monet X Change
But she looks stunning, though. I actually like this outfit. I love this idea that the little triangles popping off the back is really a cute idea.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I think I did like this look, too. I didn't think it was a bad look. And then Merle tried to come for her, saying that it was. Or whoever it was, her dress was too short. It was Merle. And I was like, it is not too short. What is. What is. What is too short about that?
Monet X Change
Well, Bob Mackie was like, you can go shorter, right?
Bob the Drag Queen
I was like, merle, shut your ass up. That's why. That's why they sent your ass home.
Monet X Change
Would you all remember? Which was one of my favorite bits of Drag Race trivia is the very first ever extra special guest judge on Drag Race was Bob Mackie. Bobby Mackey, which is wild. Go on to Tammy Brown. I don't know what are these things she's wearing on her head and her body?
Bob the Drag Queen
They're butterflies on her head, on her body. I don't know what it is, but it reminds me of those, like, 60s. Like, ladies would, like, wear those to the pool and, like, take that off and have like their full thing and the, the.
Monet X Change
Like a camisole or like a. Like a.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like a cover up.
Monet X Change
Like a sarong maybe?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, like a sarong cover up situation. But she made it out of, like, I don't know what the material. What, what. What it actually is. It looks like something very.
Monet X Change
I mean, she looks good. She looks good. I like, I like this look for her, actually.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I think Tammy looks great. It looks very undead.
Monet X Change
They Ripped Akasha to shreds on the judging.
Bob the Drag Queen
Tammy. Tammy looks like. She looks like. She looks like Jimbo's. What's that girl Jimbo did?
Monet X Change
Oh, Shirley Temple.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, she looks like. She looks like Jimbo doing Shirley Temple.
Monet X Change
I can see that. It's really funny that we think of Shirley Temple as so young, because obviously she lived to be much, much older, and she kind of just got out of the business, but she. We really. She really just cemented as. But she also had quite a public life after being a child star.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes.
Monet X Change
As a diplomat. Yeah. It's just so interesting. I think she looks like almost 90 or something.
Bob the Drag Queen
They're going through the critiques, and Santino's talking about Victoria's. This is one of the ones that stuck out to me about Victoria's photo shoot. And he just goes, you just look like a double stuffed Oreo. I was like, jesus.
Monet X Change
Yeah. Santino was going with ham. They're gonna give out a 20 blowjob, a hand job. And then RuPaul's like, that's not a bad thing. They ripped Akasha to shred. They were like, you look, like, grumpy. You don't look happy. Like, you look mad as hell. Like, are you. Do you want to be here? Why you like you about to give hand jobs we hate.
Bob the Drag Queen
Maybe this. We're missing context because we weren't there. But I was like, I didn't get that from who I saw through the tv.
Monet X Change
Same. I didn't even. And even Kasha was like, I'm happy to be here. What?
Bob the Drag Queen
She's like. She's like, bitch. She's like, bitch. I took off of work.
Monet X Change
I wrote that down. That was so funny. She goes, I took off work. I don't know why I took off work. Killed me. That was so funny to me. I took off work.
Bob the Drag Queen
I took off work to be here. Like, girl.
Monet X Change
But yeah. But also, you know, I got. I got called Ratchet on my first fucking episode of Dragon. I was like, that was the first episode.
Bob the Drag Queen
Said that on Twitter the other day. I was like, that was crazy that that was a comment made to you. Like, this, like, ratchet drag. I was like, that's so interesting, because, again, there's nothing wrong with that. But knowing you for all these years before you went on Dragon years, nothing about your jacket would be described as ratchet. It was so interesting that that was a critique.
Monet X Change
I also don't think that I especially don't think I was giving Ratchet at any point in the competition, at least up until that Point anyway. You know what I mean?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
So I don't know if you guys know this happen. Ratchet is actually a term based out of Shreveport, Louisiana. You're very ratchet. Which is funny because we actually had a queen from Shreveport, Louisiana, on the season. On the season.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, it was weird.
Monet X Change
It was weird. Anyway, so in the judging, yeah, they. They let Akasha have it. She never stood a chance against them. They. They just were so aggressive to her. And Nina Flowers ends up winning the very first challenge ever on RuPaul's Drag Race with mainstage challenge. She won the first ever mainstage challenge.
Bob the Drag Queen
She won the first mini challenge too.
Monet X Change
Oh, wow, she's stacked, honey. And we find out that the bottom two are Akasha and Victoria Pork Chop Parker. And pretty much as soon as this album lined up, I was like. I remember at home watching and being like, I don't think Victoria's gonna stand a chance against her.
Bob the Drag Queen
And, I mean, the first ever listening song on Drag Race was Supermodel of the World by RuPaul Charles sitting right there. And I think they both did a good job. I honestly think they both did a good job, but there was just a level of fierceness, charisma that Akasha had for this song that Victoria just did not have.
Monet X Change
And also, Victoria was. The wobbling. That clip of Victoria wobbling is probably gonna haunt her for the rest of her life.
Bob the Drag Queen
I didn't even. They showed it. It wasn't. I was like. It didn't look that crazy to me, though.
Monet X Change
Well, they didn't do. Because they didn't. They didn't have what they have now, which is now they'll like. They do that crescendo noise, and they slow it down, and it's like.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
To make it, like a. A crazy moment. They did loop it, which I was gagged.
Bob the Drag Queen
And then Akasha beats Victoria portrait Parker, and she's the first eliminated girl in Drag Race herstory.
Monet X Change
So we. We have a special place in our hearts for Victoria Pork Chop Parker. She is truly, truly actually an icon in the world of drag. She's a continental winner. She's not a continental. One or no. In and out of Drag Race, she is a pretty big deal. So much love to Victoria Pork Chop Walker. I don't even know if she's still doing drag. I mean, she's. I mean, Maybe she is. 36 years is a long time to be doing drag. That is.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, look at Darcelle. Darcelle did it for, like, 50 something years.
Monet X Change
I mean, let me see Victoria Pork Chop. I don't think she has an Instagram anymore either.
Bob the Drag Queen
She did. She did win Miss Continental. She absolutely.
Monet X Change
She did work
Jacob
Ms. Continental plus.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, she won it.
Monet X Change
Pork chop.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob.
Monet X Change
Plus Porkchop has not posted on Instagram since 2019. Ooh. Should have worked.
Bob the Drag Queen
All right, Bob, who do you think is going to win this season? Who do you think is going to take it?
Monet X Change
I think it's going to. I think it's going to be Pork Chop. I think she's going to come back and win it all.
Bob the Drag Queen
I could see that.
Monet X Change
And by that, I mean our hearts. And I was right. She did win our hearts.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, Roberta, this was so fun. I can't wait to watch the rest of the season.
Monet X Change
How do you feel watching the season?
Bob the Drag Queen
Honestly, it was very exciting. It was an exciting episode. I held off on not wanting to watch it. I was like, it's not gonna be. It's not gonna be the drag Race that we know today. And I was also gagged. There are so many staples in how Drag Race functions that started in the first season that's still going today. Like, I thought that a lot of it had maybe changed by season two and three, but from this first episode, so many things. Like, a lot of ruse lines, ruse isms, like, a lot of the underscoring music. All this stuff is consistent through still today in the franchise. It's fierce. Yeah.
Monet X Change
The people who made this season, really, I don't know if they even knew how persistent some of this stuff would be or the show itself. Even.
Bob the Drag Queen
Even the eliminated song. When RuPaul says that sting the dunk, dunk, dunk. Leave it. I was like, they had that from episode one.
Monet X Change
Episode one, don't it up. Episode one, don't it Up. Episode one. All right, I'll see you all next time. And we'll be watching episode two, season one.
Bob the Drag Queen
All right, bye, y'.
Shannon Maldonado
All.
Sibling Watchery: RuPaul’s Drag Race S1E1 "Drag on a Dime" Review Podcast: Sibling Rivalry — August 9, 2023 Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob the Drag Queen
In this inaugural "Sibling Watchery" episode, drag superstars and RuPaul’s Drag Race alumni Monét X Change and Bob the Drag Queen sit down to re-watch and dissect the very first episode of RuPaul’s Drag Race, Season 1, “Drag on a Dime.” With signature irreverence, nostalgia, and insights only winners can provide, they share memories, drag history, and sharp commentary on the queens, the show’s humble beginnings, and the legacy it launched.
Monét’s Background as a Day-One Fan
Bob’s First Live Drag Race Queen
First Impressions of the Season 1 Queens
Noting how rudimentary and unpolished Season 1 production and wardrobe standards were—and how far the show has come.
Notable critiques of runway looks:
On Who Gets to Critique Drag Race:
[06:44] Bob: “Let them know for all y’all motherfuckers that be like, what qualifies Bob and Monét to talk about drag? Because we fucking won the show. Okay? That’s number one. Number two, this is our motherfucking podcast, bitch.”
On S1 Drag Evolution:
[52:23] Bob: “A single lace front on this show. These are all hardcore wigs.”
On Chanel’s Confidence:
[60:01] Monet: “She said, ‘these judges want to humble me, but I will never be humbled, honey.’ And you should never be humbled.”
On Legendary Ru Girls:
[18:22] Monet (on Ongina): “She really has had some of the best moments in the history of Drag Race on the show from this season. She did so many iconic moments, and she’s really set a standard.”
On Drag Race’s Enduring Format:
[68:00] Bob: “Even the eliminated song. When RuPaul says that sting...I was like, they had that from episode one!”
| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:34 | Episode Start; Invisalign Banter | | 07:28 | The Queens’ Entrances Begin: Chanel, Nina, etc. | | 09:18 | Monét on Watching S1E1 Live | | 12:13 | First Looks Commentary (Chanel, Nina Flowers) | | 18:22 | Ongina’s Entrance, Early Impact | | 33:45 | Photo Shoot Judging & TV Editing Skepticism | | 41:48 | The First Use of “Charisma, Uniqueness, Nerve, and Talent” | | 51:04 | Runway Looks: Sponges, Loofahs, Kitty Cat Wigs | | 55:36 | Porkchop’s Elimination | | 64:42 | Nina’s Win, Bottom Two Announcement | | 65:01 | First Lip Sync: Akasha vs. Porkchop – “Supermodel” | | 68:00 | Reflecting on Drag Race’s Longevity and Staples |
Bob and Monét’s Sibling Watchery debut is a triumphant, laugh-filled return to the “lost” Season 1 of Drag Race, underscoring the mix of comedy, critique, and historic appreciation that remains core to both the podcast and the Drag Race fandom. Their summary: Season One is rough around the edges, but the DNA of global drag phenomenon is already working its magic.
Next episode: Sibling Watchery: RuPaul’s Drag Race S1E2 recap!