Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race S1E4 "Mac Viva-Glam Challenge" Review

Summary

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Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race S1E4 "Mac Viva-Glam Challenge" Review

Podcast: Sibling Rivalry
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob The Drag Queen
Episode Date: August 30, 2023

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change continue their retrospective watch-through of Drag Race, this time reviewing Season 1, Episode 4, featuring the iconic “Mac Viva-Glam Challenge.” The duo recaps the episode’s drama, runway, and challenges, while also reflecting on how topics like HIV/AIDS and drag culture have evolved since 2008. True to Sibling Rivalry form, their lively banter is peppered with shade, drag wisdom, and a dose of pop culture tangents.

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Episode Breakdown

1. Flashback to Season 1, Episode 4 [00:53-03:35]

• Both hosts reflect on the “old school” feel of early Drag Race.
  • Bob recalls living in Long Island City during 2008, setting a nostalgic tone.
• They discuss the differences between Season 1 and more recent seasons.
  • "Once you're done, you're banished. You don't exist anymore. It's the unknown. There's no mirror message." – Bob [03:35]

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2. The Drama: Constructive Criticism Segment [04:21-06:37]

• This episode features a moment where RuPaul encourages queens to give each other "constructive criticism," which sparks immediate tension.
  • “That bitch knew what she was doing. Because, girl, when you're in the competition setting, you don't want no motherfucking construction criticism from your competitors.” – Bob [04:52]
• Special focus on Chanel feeling singled out and taking the feedback very personally.

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3. Mini Challenge: Painting Each Other’s Faces [06:42-10:21]

• Queens had to do each other's makeup in 30 minutes.
  • Monét: “I cannot think of something in drag I enjoy less than putting someone else in makeup.” [06:06]
• Both hosts agree it's one of their least favorite drag-related activities.
• Commentary on the time-consuming nature of Season 1 mini challenges.
• Quick shade on mini challenge outcomes. Standout moment: Chanel’s self-confidence and feeling she deserved to win, despite nearly everyone’s makeup looking “crazy.”
  • Bob: “I would highly doubt that anyone in this competition can do makeup the way I could do makeup.” – Quoting Chanel [09:39]

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4. Parking Lot Tangent [12:07-13:06]

• The conversation briefly detours into Bob’s love for walking in empty parking lots to get steps in. Pure, classic Sibling Rivalry humor.

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5. Main Challenge: Viva Glam Commercials [20:08-32:36]

• Queens are tasked with filming a Viva Glam campaign—a serious, less punchline-driven challenge by today’s standards.
  • “Back then, this wasn’t the goal of this. The goal was to actually... we're talking about a very serious topic." – Monét [35:08]
• Each queen’s performance and look is recapped:
  • Nina Flowers: Looked stunning, but lacked energy and struggled with English. Judges thankfully didn’t fixate on the language barrier.
  • Rebecca Glasscock: Gave an emotional, if factually inaccurate, story about her friend with HIV/AIDS. Bob dives into the then-and-now understanding of HIV, noting the ignorance of the times.
    • Rebecca: “There’s millions of people dying each day due to HIV and aids.” — Bob fact-checks that on air, noting it’s way off [26:16].
  • Chanel: Over-delivers, tells a drawn-out personal story. The hosts beg for the unedited footage.
    • Bob, mocking: “‘Hi, my name is Chanel, and I stand before you as your Viva Glam goddess...’ She did it for 10 minutes. I demand it!” [35:08]
  • Jade: Monét likes her energy and choreography, Bob thinks she’s too stiff.
  • Angina: Praised as heartfelt and authentic, ultimately wins.
  • Bebe Zahara Benet: Poised, regal—serves polish beyond her years.

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6. Runway & Judge Critiques [42:29-52:45]

• The runway prompt is unclear—everyone wears black and white.
• RuPaul’s Look: Both hosts love Ru’s “aubergine dress.”
• Quick-fire on the queens’ runway presentations:
  • Bebe impresses but gets nitpicked on color-coordination.
  • Rebecca’s look is panned for both makeup and styling.
  • Angina: White blazer over tulle; simple but effective.
  • Chanel: Body-ody-ody, revealed, and juggles! “I am obsessed with her... If I’m gonna leave, I’m gonna leave out with a bang. And I’m also gonna juggle.” – Chanel, quoted by Bob [48:09]
  • Nina Flowers: Judges “overly harsh,” even calling her masculine-presenting on the runway.
• Judges, especially Santino, are notably meaner than in later seasons.
  • “The judges were so ruthless back then. Santino just looks at Rebecca and goes like, I hated your look...you just look like a raccoon.” – Monét [51:21]

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7. Lip Sync & Elimination [53:05-54:55]

• Bottom two: Rebecca Glasscock and Jade Sotomayor.
• Lip sync is awkward, choreography underwhelming.
  • “When Rebecca started, like, pushing her to the ground, I was like, what is happening?” – Bob [53:45]
• Jade is eliminated. Before leaving, she reads Rebecca for filth.
  • “Rebecca is the fakest bitch I’ve ever met in my life. She lacks professionalism, she lacks talent, and she lacks personality.” – Jade [54:13]

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8. Angina’s HIV+ Reveal and Its Impact [56:10-56:47]

• The hosts highlight the importance of Angina coming out as HIV positive on national television, acknowledging both the courage and the lingering stigma even today.
  • “That is a very brave thing to do, especially with, again, with all the stigma that was still going on back then.” – Monét [56:47]
• Bob and Monét encourage listeners to support causes like AIDS Walk NYC.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Season 1’s Harshness:
  “Once you're done, you're banished. You don't exist anymore.” – Bob [03:35]
• On Constructive Critique:
  “That bitch knew what she was doing. Because, girl, when you're in the competition setting, you don't want no motherfucking construction criticism from your competitors.” – Bob [04:52]
• On Chanel:
  “I would highly doubt that anyone in this competition can do makeup the way that I could do makeup.” – Chanel, quoted by Bob [09:39] “If I'm gonna leave, I'm gonna leave out with a bang. And I'm also gonna juggle.” – Chanel, quoted by Bob [48:09]
• On Angina’s Big Moment:
  “...to have this moment and say with her full chest on TV that she is HIV positive was a big moment and brings her to her fucking knees, girl.” – Monét [56:47]
• On Rebecca’s Farewell:
  “Rebecca is the fakest bitch I’ve ever met in my life. She lacks professionalism, she lacks talent, and she lacks personality.” – Jade [54:13]

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Key Timestamps

• Season 1 Vibes & Early DRG: [00:53–03:35]
• Constructive Criticism Segment: [04:21–06:37]
• Mini Challenge Recap: [06:42–12:00]
• Parking Lot Tangent: [12:07–13:06]
• Viva Glam Challenge Rundown: [20:08–32:36]
• Runway Recap: [42:29–52:45]
• Lip Sync & Exit: [53:05–54:55]
• Angina’s HIV Moment / Reflection: [56:10–57:01]

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Final Thoughts

Bob and Monét revel in the rawness and camp of early Drag Race, especially with characters like Chanel and Rebecca stirring drama. They analyze how audiences’ and contestants' understanding of HIV/AIDS has shifted since 2008 and celebrate moments of drag bravery on TV. Their back-and-forth is full of roasting, reverence, and a genuine appreciation for the franchise’s OG season.

“It’s a fun season. And, yeah, go Drag Race.” – Monét [57:23]

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Transcript

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I'm addicted. Start your free [e-mail]. Monet I am transported back in time. By the way, we had to redo this entrance five times because Monet keeps doxing people. By the way, Monat keeps doxing people and spreading personal information. So this is our third attempt at starting this podcast. What I said in the initial one, which is I am watching season one of RuPaul's Drag Race. I feel like I'm transported back to 2008, living in Long Island City, which is, you know, when I was sharing a two bedroom apartment with Lindsay and Bobby Katsopoulos. Bobby and Chastity.

[A]

Was Bobby Jewish?

[C]

Yeah, it was a married couple. They are Greek. Well, Bobby's Greek and Lindsay. I don't think Lindsay's Greek, but Bobby was Greek. Yeah, that's their marriage. I don't know why they were the Cottopolises.

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Bob, we need to go. Well, you were just there. We need to do. We need to do a sibling. Oh, my God idea. We need to start the sibling family vacation like a family vacation. And like, you and I and like, we'll put a thing like, you know how people can. Like cruises. You can do, like, a thing.

[C]

And.

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And we do a thing where all the siblings, cousins, whoever, can go on, like, the sibling family vacation. And we do, like, a whole cruise.

[C]

You know, I thought about that before. I didn't think about that before, but I think we should start with something small, like a family reunion. You should start small before you start doing starter. Hi, Bobby. Going full throttle.

[A]

When I was like, oh, Bob, we should do like a partnership with some lip balm. Bob's like, no, we're starting our own company, Monet. So now you want to be small.

[C]

Okay. I've learned things in my process. I recently found out how much it costs to charter a cruise ship. So I'm. Now that I have more information, now that I know better, I'm doing better.

[A]

Got it. Okay. Sounds good.

[C]

But a little. But a family reunion could be really cute. You know what I mean?

[A]

Make it really cute. We'll do it somewhere. Let's do it in Atlanta. There's more space.

[C]

You mean more than California? Yeah, there's more space in Atlanta than California. Unless you go out to the Valley more, which don't even start. I told you, Jacob, we're moving to the Valley. At some point, Jake can come join

[A]

me out of the Valley, baby. Love the Valley.

[C]

His dick's gonna be bare knuckling the Hollywood. So let's talk about when they walk in the room. Okay. Lil Mama just went home. Tammy Brown.

[A]

No, Akasha just went home.

[C]

Oh, that's right. They also, they don't really talk about the girls who just went home on season one. Girl, once you're done, you're banished. You don't exist anymore. It's the unknown. There's no mirror message. There's no mirror message or anything I have to say. Wait, really quick, straight up.

[A]

You are literally rivalry. Bob and I really gave you guys, we gave you guys a little Aretha Franklin. And y' all did not receive us and give us our flowers for giving y' all Aretha Franklin.

[C]

To be fair, it was very cringy and not great. So I'm not mad at them. I, I, I, I stand with you all. I stand with you all. I stand, stand, stand with you all,

[A]

you fucking fake bitch. Anyway, continuing with your little story.

[C]

So Akasha just went home and they have all the mirrors are covered up. And then RuPaul asks him to do something that is just gonna start a fight. There's no other way about it being like, what advice would you give this person? What advice would you give that person? And I'm like, I can't see any way. I can't see this ending good in any way, shape, form, or fashion.

[A]

Well, he tried. He said, guys, we're going to do constructive criticism with each other. It was coded to be that bitch

[C]

knew what she was doing.

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Exercise.

[C]

That bitch knew what she was doing. Because, girl, when you're in the competition setting, you don't want no motherfucking construction criticism. From your competitors.

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And then, I mean.

[C]

And it had that exact effect. The girls were like, caramel.

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Chanel was like, oh. You know, she's like, this is hard to hear, but I'm like, Chanel, like, st. She was going to have, like, a come to Jesus moment, but she's

[C]

also taking it very hard. I mean, Chanel is all but sure that she is the most hated person on the planet during this episode. She's like, they hate me. I'm just going to leave. I've already packed my bags, guys. Don't worry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I even came here. Also, at one point, B.B. ruPaul calls B.B. bebe. I don't know.

[A]

I can tell if he was doing a bit or like, he just had, like, a brain fart.

[C]

I think Rue has the brain fart track record. That's what I think. What would you say to Rebecca? She was like, well. She's like, well, who the hell is Bebe? Let's start with that. Let's start with me trying to find out who the hell Bebe is. Do you like the little mini challenge where they had to do makeup for each other in 30 minutes?

[A]

I mean, yeah, it was fine. I mean, I've said this before. I mean, you've said it before, too. You and I are not people. I mean, I speak for you. I do not get off on putting other people in makeup. I don't like. It's not like my. I'm not really good at it. I'm good at doing my makeup. I'm not good at doing other people's makeup. So that. But it is a mini challenge, so the stakes are not that high. But I still. I cannot. I cannot think of something in drag more I enjoy least than putting someone else in makeup. I cannot think of another activity in drag that I hate more than doing someone else's makeup.

[C]

I'm also thinking about a mini challenge taking an entire hour. That's kind of wild.

[A]

Yeah. Plus. And that's just like the. Plus the filming and everything, right? Because mini challenges. Normally, y', all. When you see the mini challenges on Drag Race, like now, that's these. It's usually like 20 minutes and then. But it kind of moves quickly. Especially the ones that happen in the room when you have to do the sudden. When you go outside and come back in, blah, blah, blah. Those are a little longer. But the ones in the room tend to happen pretty quickly. But this is like an hour plus cameras and blah, blah, blah. So it probably took, like, two hours. To do that fucking challenge, which is annoying.

[C]

Yeah. When it's the reading challenge. The reading challenge is done in, like 20 minutes. When it's like. But like, not an hour. I was like, this is chacha. No cha cha bitch. Was like, 20 minutes. Maybe not even that.

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Yeah.

[C]

So I was gagged at spending that much time to edit down a two minute thing. What are you doing?

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You're cha cha bitch.

[C]

Oh, no, it was. It was you trying to be too kind. It was like, also, why. Why are you wearing shades indoors?

[A]

Huh?

[C]

Why are you wearing shades indoors?

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I had a late night.

[C]

Did you. Did you go out late last night? What'd you do?

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No, I'm just talking about this, though.

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No reason. Oh, my God, you're ridiculous. Would you have kept them on the whole time if I said nothing?

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I was waiting to see how long you didn't say anything about it. You're being so weird.

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You were frozen for a second. Would you have kept them on the whole time if I said nothing? Yeah.

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I was waiting for you to say something, but you didn't say anything. You're being so weird.

[C]

I'm not being weird. You the one coming with sunglasses, trying to provoke a response. But I'm the one being weird. Interesting tape.

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I'm very tired. I'm loopy. I'm very loopy. I'm very exhausted. I'm loopy.

[C]

You literally just admitted to coming in, trying to manipulate me, and then act like I'm the one being weird. Like I'm tired. You're so tired. You become. What are you on Ambien? Who are you?

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Roseanne was Roseanna. Ambien queen.

[C]

She took Ambien and she started getting racist.

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The Ambien made her racist.

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That's what she said.

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So anyway, and then, I mean, I

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thought the bitch was white.

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Nina had Jade looking crazy, and Angina had Chanel looking crazy. It's wild.

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Yeah. And I mean, I don't think that Rebecca and BB did each other any favors either. You know what I mean?

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Yeah. I think Bibi used too much of Rebecca's contour because Rebecca was definitely a shade or two darker than her usual makeup.

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But Jade ate from Nina. Nina, like, Nina looked great. I was dragged.

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I agree. Angina made Chanel look so. Because Angina was the worst.

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Yeah. And I think Angina acknowledged that. You know what I mean? Yeah. I wrote down. Okay. Some of the quotes that Chanel had this. I wrote down almost all. They're so good. This quote got me. I would highly doubt that anyone in this Competition can do makeup the way that I can do makeup. That was a great. I would highly doubt that anyone in this competition can do makeup the way that I could do makeup. And then once Jade won, which I think I agree that Jade should have won, she goes, I should have won. I should have won this challenge. I deserve to win this challenge.

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I'm obsessed with Chanel. She's great fucking tv. And I. I mean, I wrote that

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I should have won this challenge.

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I said, chanel thinks she should have won. Do you agree? And no, I don't think she.

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I mean,

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no one blew it out

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of the park, though.

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Like, let's. Like, let's be real. Like, the real rip. No one, like, was like, oh, my God, this is incredible. It was all fine. No one was like, amazing. So are you making.

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They weren't in full drag. They weren't in. But they weren't in full drag. So we don't know. Like, it's kind of hard to tell. You can kind of have an eye because we do drag and we kind of know. But even to the trained drag eye, even on yourself, once you get the full fantasy on, you're like, oh, now I'm giving a look. Like, I've had a few girls do my makeup on my page. And, you know the queen that I had do me, the two queens who really put me in, who chose my hair and my outfit. Once they put the hair on, it just. It was. It was such a different look. Naomi had me in that. That hair done by, I think, Killian. And then Plastique put me in one of her own wigs, and it really just changed the whole vibe. I was wondering that. I'm thinking to myself, could I redo Plastique's makeup? And I don't think I could.

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When you went plastic with you, you had that dress on. You had that long moment. I was like, wow, look at this lady. So different.

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Well, you've seen me that dress a lot of times, but I am still very much a hair pullback kind of girl. I just love the way my face looks when my hair is.

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When it's unobstructed, we know I need someone. Bala Dragon needs to do a compilation of. I just love this. Bob loves. I just love some random thing.

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I just love said apples. I just Apples.

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I just love dancing. I just love apples. What's the one you said the other day that sent me into orbit? What was it you said? I just.

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I like walking in parking lots. I do like walking in parking lots.

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No, you don't.

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I do. I love walking in parking lots, which is true. I love walking in parking lots.

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Yes, you do. But you are giving it too much weight. I just love walking. We're not going to go down this road. We already did. I'm not going down this road.

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Well, I would tell you why I love walking in parking lots. Anyone else wants to get into. Walking in parking lots is actually really, really great. It's a fun thing to do when I go to small towns for we're here or if I'm traveling and I can find a big empty parking lot, especially after hours or on a weekend when the place is closed. You walk up and down the parking lot. You will get so many steps in. Y'.

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All.

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Do you want to talk about closing some circles, baby? You will close circles in the parking lot. And then what I do is I set my. My little watch. Every minute I do 10 squats, I walk. And then every minute I do 10 squats, I try to do about 100 and about 120 squats.

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Work

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and your legs will be sickity, sickity sore, honey. Are quite nice.

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I was going to say something to you. Oh, I need to tell you something at the end of the podcast, Mike Monet, you had to. You said you have to tell me something.

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Say it now because you're not going to remember. You don't have to either write it down or say it now.

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I cannot say it now.

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Then write it down. Write it down because you're never going to remember. By the way, just so y' all know, every time Mon's ever asked me to sit down the podcast, we stop down and go, what was it? She goes, girl, I don't remember. And then I'm left with a sense of existential dread, never knowing if it was some sort of a life saving tip for me. I don't know. She was like, they're on the way. If you get this message, it's already too late. They have to do. They have to replace. Wait, wait.

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The AC's mad loud.

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Is someone here to rob you too? Is someone breaking in your hotel too?

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Is that loud? I can't. Oh, my God. Okay, it's off.

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Did someone breaking here, breaking in here like at your house? No, it was.

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The AC was on. It's right there. It's making my noise. Oh. So they get done with the challenge and Rebecca asks a question. She poses a question, I guess to maybe production and we or whatever she's a room like, do we have to wear this makeup? And then Nina tries To get on her, like, kind of shade her acting. Like, for the Mac Viva Glam challenge, where they want you to do your signature look like she wants to be in somebody else's makeup. Like, I feel like Nina really blew that shit up when it was really not that deep. No one wanted to wear some other bitches makeup or hot. Like, no, you want to do your signature thing. So stop trying to act like Rebecca's saying that it's some, like, big problem and, like, blowing it up. That shit really irritated me.

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Yeah. I wrote down. I don't know why they don't like. Like, the girls do not like Rebecca, which I will say this. Typically speaking, if everyone doesn't like one person, it might be something that person's doing. I will say that. But a lot of. A lot of girls do not. They don't believe a word she's saying. They do not trust this hoe. They think she is shady. The girls do not. The last. The final quote of the episode, which. Which we remember as Rebecca. Rebecca's the fakest bitch I ever met in my life. Like, she has done something. She has unsettled these queens. They are very unsettled. So. So we find out the reason why Rebecca said this. Because they found out. They have to. They have to recreate RuPaul's Viva Glam makeup. So RuPaul is the first official face of Mac Cosmetics. RuPaul is the first spokesperson to ever be the face of Mac. And, you know, Mac Cosmetic has a Viva Glam lipstick, which 100% of the proceeds go toward fighting HIV and AIDS. And, of course, a lot of legendary people have fallen behind. One of my favorites was Whitney Harlow, who recreated RuPaul's.

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Oh, yeah, he did. I just watched Whitney Harlow her Architectural Digest. My goal, I would love to have an Architectural Digest moment. If anyone from AD Listens to this. I'm currently renovating my home, and I would love to do an AD moment.

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I'm gonna reiterate one more time. I don't think we should be doing home tours. I'm gonna say that one more time. I'm gonna say it very loudly and clearly. I really don't think we should be doing home tours of our personal private homes. But that's just me. Of course you can. Since you're in a doxxing mood. Don't let me stop you.

[A]

So AD Hit a group bitch up. I would love to.

[C]

And you know, AD Is not going to come back and give you security once the fans find out where you live. You know, that right. Mm. Anyway, you know what? I be giving Monet advice every once in a while. Monat and Monet in five years, be like, you know what? You was right about that. And I hope that I don't have to ever say that about this. That's my dream.

[A]

Yeah, you won't.

[C]

You know, the fans found out where your sister the fans found out where your sisters live. You know that, right?

[A]

What sisters?

[C]

Several of our drag racers. They know where a lot of those girls. A lot of these at their houses.

[A]

A lot of. Are not my sister. Do not ever call these my sisters. There are select few that I'm.

[C]

They're yours. So they're your besties. They're your besties. They're on your. They're on your wedding guest list. They are your sissies, honey. Okay? Know where they live. And they go to their houses and wait outside and stand across the street. And I'll bring them crazy Monet. I'll bring them lemonade.

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I'll bring them snacks.

[C]

Now, see, what you're saying is going to want to make them want to come. Now they're gonna. Now they're gonna be like, oh, if. Now you're incentivizing them to come to your home, because they think that if they go to Monet's house and stand outside, you're going to bring them lemonade. Do you hear what is happening right now? Money? You need to maintain some level of privacy in your life that is important.

[A]

Obviously, I'm being silly. I'd be hyperbolic. No, I'm not gonna bring nobody no snacks outside my house.

[C]

Also, remind y', all, Monet didn't even want to say hi to that one fan who was saying, waiting for us outside of hello$. You think she about to bring you fucking snacks? Monet's gonna turn the hose on y'. All. Y' all gonna find out who. Y' all gonna find out who the real money. Y' all think. Y' all think Monet is the sweet one, y'. All. One day, it's all gonna come out in the end in the wash. Y' all gonna find out. Wow. Monet was never the sweet one. And just like that fan, just like that one guy in Florida found out. Just like that guy in Florida found out. And all those people in that thread. Yep, that one. Even that one guy in Florida, your biggest fan. The one about Monet's biggest fan, just like he found out. Or all those fans at DragCon UK who was like, monet was really rude to me. Bob was really Sweet. Monet kind of ignored me, talked over my head. I encourage you all, go back to the dragcon UK Reddit thread and just have a heyday.

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No, I'm gag of the guy from Florida. Remember that? That fucking lion ass bitch. Remember that? That was so crazy.

[C]

Was he lying? Was he lying? Anyway, corroborated. Sorry. This is tragic. Or as you say, cobble. Wait, this is drag race.

[A]

So they're doing the Viva Glam thing. So they have to basically do. This is like one of the first little improv, not improv ads.

[C]

Well, they have an opportunity to write them. They have an opportunity to write these things down if they want to. Also, Jade has an extra. So Jade has more time to get ready and she has an extra 15 minutes. No, no, no.

[A]

She has 15 minutes total instead of 10. She has five extra minutes and she

[C]

had more time to get ready too.

[A]

Right?

[C]

So, yeah, extra five minutes. All right. She had an extra five minutes to record her Aviva Glam challenge.

[A]

So they all go into the room and the first up is Nina. And I think Nina. Wait, Yeah, I think that Nina is fine. I don't think Nina is. It's fine. Nothing about it is extraordinary. She's fine.

[C]

So you froze for a second. Say that again. You think Nina what?

[A]

I think that Nina was fine. I think that Nina looked really good. I love this, like, this like little like braided up little ponytail, mohawk thing with like the hair. I think Nina looks good. But her campaign, overall, it was fine. It was nothing special about it. Wasn't. She didn't have that much personality. It was a fine moment.

[C]

I agree she looks stunning. Well, I think her stunning look. I think her look was actually, like, pretty. I think her look was actually probably my favorite of all the looks for the Viva Glam challenge. But I do think that her.

[A]

Her.

[C]

Her thing was just. Was just fine. She mentioned that she's having a language problem, a language barrier, which I am really grateful that drag. That. The judges did not drag that.

[A]

Like, that was. That.

[C]

That would have been a bit weird for me, although. Which seems pretty. Advance for season one of Drag Race. We know these earlier season of Drag Race were not popping, girl. Something about Rebecca Glasscock pacing the workroom wearing these jeans in this T shirt is sending me Sending looks.

[A]

I am sent crazy. The wig look like, since she pulled out of the bottom of her suitcase, she didn't even brush it. She just pl. Do you know what, y'?

[C]

All, if you.

[A]

I told that story about Bob falling and then grabbing a wig from his shelf. It was a wig like that. That was what Bob pulled off of his head. His wig shelf, and put on his head and went to work. It was something.

[C]

I was, like, such a fucking bitch. Tell this story you right now, y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

This day, I was literally prepared to never speak to Taylor or Monet again. And I didn't speak to Taylor for, like, two years. But, like, I was literally. I was so mad this day that I was like, I'm literally never speaking to these two. I remember thinking to myself, like, we're going to ride down here in this car, but after this show, I'm going to just smile on their faces tonight, and I'm going to. I'm going to delete their numbers, block them on Facebook, because I can't talk to them anymore. It was. It was. That's how mad I was. Especially because y', all, you know. You know, I love a joke and a prank, but not when it gets physical. And, you know, I thought y' all pulled the chair on purpose, and I was thinking to myself, why would they. Why would. But. But I hit the floor and. But t. No, Taylor moved the chair. Taylor says he didn't move it on purpose, but Taylor moved the chair, and I hit the ground. And, you know, I don't play. I don't play like that. So hot that day.

[A]

Then Bob grabbed Rebecca Glasscock's wig and put it on his head and said, let's go.

[C]

So I would have read some of the things that Rebecca Glasscock said. Okay. The girls don't seem to think Rebecca's telling the truth about her friend, which I don't know, I don't want to.

[A]

I don't know either.

[C]

Assume. But the girls don't think she is because Rebecca said my. I started thinking of my friends, who has aids, who has aids, hiv. And I'm like, you know, HIV and AIDS are two different things, right? One progresses, one can. HIV can become aids. Full blown aids. Yes, but you don't have aids. Hiv. You know what I mean? And then she said, he's my best friend, he's my sister. Wait, this is not funny, especially if it's true. Yes, but this sentence was just so out of pocket. This was such an out of pocket sentence. She said, he's my best friend, he's my sister, you know, and he's going to die.

[A]

Well, when I was watching this, I was like, I'm taking it into context, right? This was 14 years ago. And I just think, I think this shows how much the stigma around HIV and AIDS has changed. Like, I think like 14 years ago, like, I'm thinking about. That's when I was. This was 2008. I was just graduating high school. I knew nothing about HIV and aids. What are you vomiting about?

[C]

Nothing. Go ahead, continue.

[A]

I was just graduating high school and I was like, I did not know anything. Like, so I'm trying to think about where I was back then. I think there was a lot of ignorance around the topic and people really didn't know that much. So that's why she's speaking about it in this way. Like even to have, even for Anjana to have this moment. Well, sorry, we'll talk about that later. So I think that I believe her.

[C]

It's not a spoiler alert. We're literally 16 years late. So there's no spoiler alerts here, y'.

[A]

All. So, I mean, so I think that there was just a lot of ignorance around it. People didn't quite know the language to use. And you know, and at this point, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, I don't at this point. We knew by now, by then that the HIV was not a death sentence. But I think a lot of people still thought that it was when now, like, it is a known. Everyone fucking knows that it is. No, like, you're not going to die now that you are diagnosed with this disease. Like, you can live well.

[C]

Something else that she said in the middle of her thing, she said, this one was though. This was the. This one. I was like, this is wild. She goes, there's millions of people.

[A]

What did she say?

[C]

There's millions of people dying each Day due to HIV and aids. Oh, did she say that is. Yes. That is just not true. That is a completely. I did a little bit of research. At the height of the AIDS epidemic, the most deaths there's ever been in one year for HIV and AIDS was in 2004. And there were about 5,400 people dying a day. About 5,400 people dying a day. Not millions a day. And then around the time this was filmed, this was 2000, maybe film in 20. In 2010. No. But now in 2022. Roughly. In 2022, roughly 1700 people were dying a day. But the fact that she, she got on, got on Diana Ross's television and said, millions of people die every day due to HIV and aids. I was like, that is wild. How do they live? They make it into the show. This is crazy.

[A]

Yeah, I think it's just again, more of like the ignorance a lot of people still had about the disease. Even so, you know, since the early 90s, it was what, 17, 19 years later we're still so ignorant about it. But yeah, but she just looks crazy. I cannot believe that she would decided to wear this outfit for a challenge. Like the high water jeans, them black boots, them that black and white, that top with that stupid hat and the hair. She looks so bad.

[C]

It was very of that time, though. It's kind of Paris Hilton. It's low key. Paris Hilton. Bob.

[A]

The hair, though.

[C]

There's a thing where I. I can't say that I actually will be able to say this about myself except for certain times, but I really love the idea of looking at a picture of someone from the 70s and being like, this was the 70s. Some like looking at someone in the 80s and being like, this was THE 80s. And I feel like in the late 90s, I was in the early 90s, I was definitely giving 90s, early 2000s, I was definitely giving 2000s. And I think that somewhere around 2000, like 12, my style just kind of. I don't think you can really tell what year it is unless I tell

[A]

you like, you personally or you mean like globally?

[C]

Me personally.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

I think that.

[A]

I think that a lot of.

[C]

She's giving 2008.

[A]

Say it again.

[C]

She's giving 2008. Not in a great way, but she is.

[A]

I mean, in that time, in like mid 2000s, that's like also like the double, like the, like the double collared shirts with like the collars both popped up together, all that kind of stuff. I think that I pretty much. I don't like Follow trends. But, like, right now, like, I. I don't know. I guess I go in and out. Also, style is so cyclical. Like, a lot of shit from the seventies has come back. Like, people are doing, like, a lot of 90s. Like, it's just. It's so cyclical.

[C]

I could see Hannah Montana wearing what she wore. I saw a clip of Miley Cyrus going. I saw a clip of Miley Cyrus holding a laptop. She goes, little draw. Her voice is so. I love the way. Because her voice is so deep, but it's also. She's like, the drama.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I am obsessed with the way Miley Cyrus talks.

[A]

She's talking about the final episode of Hannah Montana. She's in that thing, talking about, this

[C]

is how I say goodbye to everybody now. I just say, I do everybody the same way.

[A]

Well, you know I do. So I was with someone else, some. A very popular queer person. And they were saying, well, you know, she recently did, like, a big mass unfollowing of a lot of queer people. I was like, oop. I was never followed, so I wasn't part of that. Yeah, apparently Miley did. Apparently.

[C]

Wait, Miley unfollowed a bunch of. Well, probably. Here's another thing, baby. Molly would just follow, like, a bunch of people and quit. Like, maybe everybody she follows is queer.

[A]

Allegedly. Again, I was not.

[C]

She did part of that. Well, I was. I was never followed, so. She follows. Sza. She follows.

[A]

This is not queer.

[C]

Lizzo. Saweetie, Spotify. Okay, Matt Peterson, because these are the

[A]

people that you follow.

[C]

That.

[A]

Because it's showing you the people that you follow that she follows. And you. And you follow a lot of gay people.

[C]

No, this is. No, this. No. This is just showing her followers. I don't follow all those people. I only follow Lizzo. That's the only one that I follow that she follows. I think the only person that we both follow is Lizzo.

[A]

Got it. Well, also. Well, I'm gonna say this. Ariana Grande unfollowed me, and I don't know how I found that out.

[C]

We also both follow Erykah Badu. We both follow Lizzo and Erica Badu

[A]

out of your shield.

[C]

She was just at Massacre Garden recently.

[A]

Work. I love Erica Badu.

[B]

Her.

[A]

Her online pres. She's so interesting. She did this video. She had these, like, long braids, like, from all the way down to literally the floor. And she's, like, pushing this thing around her neighborhood. It was so interesting. Erykah Badu is such an interesting person.

[C]

Badu. Badu. Badu.

[A]

Badu.

[C]

All right, so let's keep going on. I need. I also love this other quote that Rebecca said. Can you put a price on life? He is sending me.

[A]

So in her thing, she's obvious. She's overcome by a lot of her emotions, and she kind of got through, like, one pass, and then she just excuses RuPaul. She, like, this was my favorite part. She snatches the bottle of water from RuPaul and she goes to the bath. I was like, imagine being on drag race now. RuPaul had used RuPaul, and you just take it and snatch it from. Imagine that today.

[C]

Well, try to imagine RuPaul being like, oh, no, you have more time. Hey, baby, don't worry. Hey, it's okay, honey. That was the unbelievable part for me. RuPaul is sweet. I didn't say RuPaul wasn't sweet. That's not what I said. I just thought that RuPaul's like, hey, hon, no worries. Hey, everyone. Hey, y'. All, don't worry. We got. We can do this.

[A]

It was season one, honey.

[C]

He shoots in a hot second.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

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[C]

So we have Chanel. I want to see Chanel's unedited footage petition to release Chanel. Chanel walked in in that fucking sportswear Ms. Continental interview suit, and she said, hi, my name is Chanel, and I stand before you as your Viva Glam goddess. When I was 19 years old, I met a lady. Her name was Suzanne. Suzanne and I, of course, were friends for years. Suzanne was one of my closest confidants, actually in access to this very day. Now, Suzanne And I would go to the store, and we loved Mac Cosmetics. It was just our happy place. We love to go to Mac Cosmetics and just smile and just laugh. And here's what I discovered. Viva Glam Lipstick. And I said to myself, what's the boy gonna do with lipstick? I tried it. I tried it. Whatever she did, she did it for 10 minutes. And I want to see that footage. I demand it. I need to see that footage.

[A]

She tried to do too much. It was too much, too, too, too, too much. And it just wasn't fun. Also, this was back before when everything on Drag Race had to be a punchline and a joke. Like they were actually doing like, an actual, like, campaign that could live on Aviva Glam. Cause now, I mean, we all know and 100% of challenges, the goal is to always be funny, be stupid, and make RuPaul laugh. Back then, this wasn't the goal of this. The goal was to actually. Because it also. We're talking about a very serious topic. So it's interesting to see this frame, like, this framework of a challenge in, like, what the machine of Drag Race is now. It's very interesting to me.

[C]

How do you think you would do this challenge? I think I would.

[A]

I think I would have done a great job back then, if I'm okay. Me back then being some young, what, I was what, 6? I was 16, 17. I don't. I didn't have that. I was probably like, Rebecca. I did not have a lot of information about the disease. But now I think I would do a. I would fucking kill this challenge. I would turn it out.

[C]

You know, I know the word is disease. Think about the word disease. Just, Just. Well, it gives me dis. Ease. And it's just, I don't know, just like people with this disease, it just feels so. Maybe it's because of the way that my mind has been tainted by the stigma around it. And it just seems mean to be like. But I know that is what it is, but it just seems with people

[A]

living with, living with, living, not dying from disease land. He among the.

[C]

I think that's.

[A]

I mean, we don't.

[C]

We say STI now, right? We don't say st. We. We say sexually transmitted infections. Cuz infection is a destigmatized way.

[A]

We say STI now.

[C]

Yeah, we're saying we say STIs now. Did you know they don't say nap anymore? Well, not they, but like a few folks. Like, we don't say nappy.

[A]

Oh, really?

[C]

And I was like, I was like Oh, I didn't realize that. Well, I called my hair nappy in the podcast once. They were like, listen up, Bob. You can tell she hates herself because she called her hair nappy. And I was like, whoa, That's not what that means. The way that I refer to my hair.

[A]

Also, having nappy hair isn't. What is your problem? That you think nappy hair is ugly or is bad? There's nothing wrong with nappy hair.

[C]

Why people think I should be saying 4C and not nappy or. I don't know what they think I should be saying.

[A]

Like, was the word nappy? I don't know why is the word. Is the root of. Was that like a. Was that something that people use as a. Some type of slur to people with tattoos?

[C]

I don't know. I just grew up. I just grew up saying nappy because we just had nappy growing up. I had nappy hair. And like. But then people are like, you can tell that Bob hates himself the way that he says and calls his hair nappy. And I was like, I feel like we were all dancing when Beyonce said nappy hair. We were all up, and she's like, nappy hair. And I feel like that we were all doing that. But now I said. And everyone's like, bob hates herself. You can tell. I was like, all right, sure. I mean, first of all, I don't have hair when I could grow it.

[A]

Jade. Jade comes in.

[C]

She's very boring.

[A]

I think Jade is fun. I think it's an energy shift. Jade is, like, dancing. She has, like, a whole little skit plan. She's like, I love just her walking in. She hands the guy. I think she's like, thanks, hon. I love all that. I thought it was camp. I lived for J's. I liked hers.

[C]

You ever had someone refer to one of your drag numbers as a skit? That shit is so funny. I used to see them skits you used to do. I think Jade is engaging me every

[A]

time, and it has movement, and I like Jade's a lot. I really do. I really enjoy Jade. So that's why I was gagging when people were like. Even when they showed the edited one.

[C]

My issue with it is that it's too stiff and it's too rehearsed, and it's too. It's like. Whether you're dancing or at a photo shoot or on film,

[A]

that's literally what the challenges are.

[C]

Now be prepared. I didn't like it. I didn't think it was interesting. I thought it was really stiff. If I saw the commercial on tv, I'd be like, what the fuck is this?

[A]

Someone posted a clip on TikTok of the podcast, and we're talking about, I think, season 14, and we're talking about a challenge like this. And I'm like, but this thing. You're like, I didn't like it. Like, but, girl even did this. He like, I didn't like it. And I was like, but, girl, you're like, monet, I did not. Monet, I like it.

[C]

Jesus.

[A]

What do you want? I did not like it, bitch.

[C]

Well, you kept trying to convince me. I was like, bitch, I don't fucking like it. I watched it too. I don't like it.

[A]

I think that shit is so funny

[C]

because I want you to like it. It's usually because I'm usually articulating myself why I don't like it. And then you keep trying to convince me otherwise, and I'm like, I don't like it.

[A]

Mo.

[C]

Now, Angina did a great job. Hers was fun. It was full of energy. Hers was great. I thought Angina did a very good job.

[A]

Yeah, I like Angina, too. Again, hers was an energy shift because she was right after Bebe. Cause BB Was so poised and she was regal and she spoke. She was very demure, and she was very. And Aunjana came like an explosive explosion. So I agree. Angina's felt was. Felt really nice.

[C]

It's kind of weird when I think about the fact that, like, looking at people who I know the way I know them, it's weird to look at Bibi and know that she's younger in this video than I am right now.

[A]

She's younger in the video than you are right now. In real.

[C]

In real life, she's younger on Drag Race. On Drag Race, she's younger than you are.

[A]

How old is BB in this?

[C]

But that's not, like, 29, bitch. Excuse me.

[A]

Oh, wait. I am now. Got it.

[C]

What? The brain. The brain is the brain. Brain. What's going on over there? Is it kind of weird to look at this. It's weird to look at these clips of BB and be like, she's younger than I am right now. That's so wild because she has such

[A]

a. I don't mean this in a shady way. Bibi has, like, an older. And even in this, she feels like an older woman. You know what I mean?

[C]

You ever see pictures of your parents younger than you, and you're like, how are they younger than me?

[A]

No time is fake.

[C]

It's not. Or have memories of your parents or memories of your parents being younger than you? Like, I remember my mom being. I was in, like, eighth or ninth grade when my mom was 37.

[A]

Well, I don't have a mom, so

[C]

I know your memories don't kick in until 11th grade. I know your memory kicks in at 16 or something, but, you know.

[A]

Let's get to the Runway, shall we? I do not understand what the prompt for this Runway was, do you?

[C]

No. And they don't say.

[A]

They don't.

[C]

Like, they don't. They never say everyone was wearing black and white. I haven't even thought about that. I don't even. I haven't even thought about what the hell this Runway could possibly be.

[A]

They're all wearing black and white, so it has to be something with black and white. But I don't. I don't know what the prompt was.

[C]

The Runway theme is Viva Mac Glam.

[A]

There's no way.

[C]

Got it. Okay, well, let's go. Let's start with RuPaul's look, which, by the way, is absolutely. I love aubergine dress.

[A]

RuPaul was Bob the Drag Queen. Just putting. Put it. Putting a. Putting a belt on a gown.

[C]

This is. Okay. When have you ever seen me wear a belt on a gown?

[A]

Bob, you used to wear that yellow. You used to. You would wear that yellow belt on leotards, gowns, catsuits, everything. Don't act like you didn't put it on everything.

[C]

Okay. I don't know that I wore it on gowns. I'm there. I might have probably worn it on a gown, but usually not.

[A]

Oh, my God. Did you hear that? Did you hear what you just did? You did this probably. You just sounded. You just sounded West Indian. You sounded West Indian, probably.

[C]

Anyway. RuPaul looks really. I love this fucking dress and this hair, too. What is Jade wearing? I just can't imagine. This is the first. This is the very first season of Drag Race. We need to keep that in mind. But this is wild.

[A]

It is a little wild. And I don't. It's like a coat with the leotard. Yeah. I don't know what this look is supposed to be. She said dominatrix, right? Or she was, like, doing something sexy like that.

[C]

I don't know what the fuck she said. It's not. I don't know what it is, though.

[A]

Yeah, it's not my thing. I wouldn't go for that.

[C]

I love Bebe Zahara Biden's look.

[A]

Bebe looks great. Bebe looks really good. I love this look. As well.

[C]

I mean, and her face is sitting. When she walked back with that last out of her, I was like, oh, my gosh, she looks amazing.

[A]

Here's my only critique. The thing. The catsuit is blue and white, right? The writing is blue, but the hat is black. I wish that the hat was blue, like a deep navy blue, like the text was or the graphic on the catsuit. That's my only critique.

[C]

So you think B deserve to go home.

[A]

But also, is this nude illusion? How does she get this fabric to stay up like that? Is that nude illusion?

[C]

No. Maybe that's just the way it falls, you know, work, I guess. Rebecca Glasscock does it again. This look is so wild.

[A]

Why did she. And I guess she. I know she wanted to change it up, but why would she just paint that star? That is not a star. Whatever shape she thought she was doing, it just goes completely flat here. There's no thing here.

[C]

Well, there's that moment where she just looks at the camera completely tired, and she goes, well, I just wanted to try something new and do something experimental. So I painted this star.

[A]

Also, she's wearing this wig a lot.

[C]

I have beat this girl down.

[A]

They really have.

[C]

Has she already worn it?

[A]

I think she wore it. She wore it in the season already, for sure. Angina. I love this angina look. It's very. It's just some gathered tulle with a white blazer. But she looks dope. I think angina looks really cool.

[C]

Yeah, she looks great. I like the way that Angina is dressed. I like the way she looks. She looks stunning. Also, quick side note. There's been a resurgence of comments about my sniffles in the comment section lately. And yes, guys, I have a deviated septum. I sniffle a lot. This is just a part of who I am and a part of my existence. I do not know what to tell you. I'm not intentionally sniffling into the mic.

[A]

That was disgusting. Jay, please edit that one out. That was wild.

[C]

Jay, put an echo on that one. Let's go on to. Okay. The judges were overly harsh of Nina Flowers look.

[A]

I agree. I think it was fine. I think it looks good. I like this hair a lot, honestly. Nina always has some really interesting hair, but I like this look.

[C]

They straight up said, bitch, you look like a fucking man. They're like, you look like a fucking man, bitch, with your man ass body, manly body. And I hate this outfit. And you look a man. I was like, jesus Christ.

[A]

Let's go on.

[C]

I love it. I love the hair. I love what she was doing with those. With those cuffs over her face.

[A]

I just love what the fucking prompt. Everyone looks like they're going to do something different. Everyone. No two looks can tell me what this, like, Runway is. I'm so frustrated by that, Chanel.

[C]

Speaking of the prompt, we heard the prompt as Viva. We've heard the prompt as Viva. Gwen. Did we know Gina?

[A]

Yeah, we did.

[C]

On Gina. Yeah. Now, speaking of. Speaking of, what is the prompt? Chanel is. Chanel does it again with another quote. Chanel is the gift that just keeps on giving. I am obsessed with her. She said, if I'm gonna leave, I'm gonna leave out with a bang. And I'm also gonna juggle.

[A]

But that being said, though, it's a gag. When she came, I just wrote Chanel in capital. Exclamation, exclamation, exclamation. And her body looks fucking incredible. She looks so sexy. When she turned around and does the reveal. You see her ass? Chanel looks fucking divine. And if no one else, like, I don't understand what their issue with this fucking look was, because no one else followed the prompt. So whatever. She's wearing black, and I think she looks great. I live. Give it a second.

[C]

This look is absolutely stunning. This look is amazing. The juggling is so on point. Everything about this look is just great. She looks really, really, really good. Truly, she looks amazing. Yeah.

[A]

I would love to see Chanel recreate this look if she ever got a chance to be on Drag Race again. And I think this. She just. It was divine. I was like, this is sexy. This is hot. This is fierce.

[C]

The juggling is so camp. It's so camp. That quote. She needs to. If she saw that shirt, I would buy it. If I'm gonna leave, I'm gonna leave. I'm gonna go out with a bang, and I'm also gonna juggle.

[A]

I was watching the way that Chanel

[C]

just convinced herself that they were she. From the moment they started rolling the camera, Chanel was like, I'm done. It's a wrap on me. Thank you. Hey, guys. Thank you so much for having me here, everyone. I just. I gotta go. They just. They want. They want me to leave. They hate me. They want me to leave, so I'm just gonna leave.

[A]

I wish I could juggle. You can juggle, right?

[C]

Kinda. Not like that. Not like that.

[A]

It's such a cool talent. I was watching this because I really hated.

[C]

The guest judge said, angina. That guest judge said, angina, you're so pretty. You don't. You're Too pretty. You don't need that much makeup. Shut the fuck up. Not on a drag show. Not on a drag show, sir. Come on.

[A]

It was ma' am you meant. The ma' am said. Oh, no, he did say that. The guy did say that. Or was it the lady?

[C]

Yeah, it was a guy.

[A]

I was watching this and no shade to Rebecca Glasscock, but I was like, where back? Because you can tell she got some. She got some roach killers. Where do. Where back then? Where did Bigfoot bitches get shoes from? Like, because, you know, only Maker and Payless wasn't up to, like, size 13 yet. Like, where did people with big feet.

[C]

Payless is always low big. That's not true. Payless has always sold big shoes.

[A]

Heels.

[C]

So has Nordstrom Rack. Yes, Payless has always sold big heels. First of all, Payless doesn't even exist anymore. So it's not like Payless is selling big shoes now. Payless has been known for selling big

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shoes for a long time, but they only stopped at 13. They didn't go above 13. Trust me. When I was trying to find shoe, they did not go above a 13. And I have wiped the wrong one if I had to go 14.

[C]

Also, because you're. Don't give us. Don't give us. Don't give us the Donald Trump measurements. Give us the real measurements, okay?

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What?

[C]

Don't give us the Trump measurements, please. You didn't see. Trump said he was 6, 3, 2, 15. Did he really say that on his arrest forum? Trump said he is 6, 3, 2, 15. I said, I'm screaming. When I found out that I was slightly shorter than Trump but slightly heavier, I screamed. Imagine my shock.

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The judges are.

[C]

I was.

[A]

The judges were so ruthless back then. Santino just looks at Rebecca and goes like, I hated your look. Like, with that thing in your eye, you just look like a raccoon. And it just feels mean. It just feels mean. It's just so mean spirited the way that the critiques are this season. I'm like, oh, my God.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. Santino was. Was out of pocket with a lot of these critiques. I was like, this is wild.

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That's why Latrice gathered.

[C]

They did not like Nina's look. They did not like Rebecca's. Look at all. They loved on Gina, obviously. They loved her so much that she won this week's challenge and Jana is the winner of this episode. The be the glam challenge. And she comes out. I don't think she won anything. Did she win anything?

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I don't. I don't think so. No, no, no. Yes, you do.

[C]

Oh, no. She wanted to be in the campaign.

[A]

Yeah. You're like. You're in a game. You're in a glam camp, which let me look it up. Did it ever come out on Gina?

[C]

I think it's the one they recorded. I think it's the one they recorded. You hear me?

[A]

Oh, no. She had, like, a full photo shoot.

[C]

Oh. And not just the one they recorded.

[A]

No. Interesting look for her.

[C]

That'd be on my resume.

[A]

But no, she. But she didn't get a lip sync, though. She did do, like, a photo shoot, I think.

[C]

Well, I don't see the photo shoot. Doesn't matter. She looks amazing. We found out the bottom two queens are Rebecca Glasscock and Jay De Sotomayor. And of course, Chanel was shook, shattered, and strong when she realized she was not going home that week.

[A]

Yeah, she really thought she was going home.

[C]

She finally breathed. And this. This lip sync was very awkward.

[A]

It was because Jade has built itself as this. Like, she's like. She's like. I mean, she's like, I can. She said I can dance like Rebecca can. So she's like, this is like my thing. I'm about to turn it up. And it was a little lackluster,

[C]

but which I. Which, I mean, Rebecca can sell, but not like that. So I think her sewing was as good as Rebecca's. I didn't like that split to the split to the motorcycle thing was. Was cut, though.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. But. And honestly, it should have been.

[C]

When Rebecca started, like, pushing her to the ground, I was like, what is happening?

[A]

And then her waves will start flying, sliding back into the duct tape. Yeah, it was a lot.

[C]

So Rebecca Glasscock stays and Jade Sotomayora leaves.

[A]

And it is unhinged to make your last moments on a TV show. I recorded it because I thought it was so iconic.

[C]

I could have easily gone home losing

[A]

to any of the other girls except for Rebecca. She likes to professionalism.

[C]

She lacks talent, and she lacks personality

[A]

because she is fake. Rebecca is the fakest bitch I've ever

[C]

met in my life. She has a strategy, and she's just going with it.

[A]

And you know what?

[C]

It works for her. It is what it is, girl. It is making like, oh, my.

[A]

Your last moments are all about somebody else. No,

[C]

Rebecca is the fakest bitch I ever met in my life, but she

[A]

clearly ain't meet you.

[C]

She said that with her whole chest. Do what?

[A]

She clearly ain't never met you.

[C]

I met her. I met her, but not at that Point. I hadn't met her at that point.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

We have met, though.

[A]

We met her on season 10. We did. On. On season 10, we did a whole, like, old. And because it was season one and season ten, so they paired us up with season one girls. It was the thing we did with them. It was my first time meeting a lot of them. When season 10. At the season 10 finale.

[C]

And you were. You wore the same dress as somebody.

[A]

I did, yeah.

[C]

You went on the season.

[B]

The. The dress.

[C]

You were on the stage. Another girl got the exact same dress made from a different designer or the same designer. It was. It was like green and yellow, and I had a hip cut. Like a cutout on the hip. Like, that was a little bit. I can find it. So, you know, so Jade Sotomayor has gone on to glory, and Rebecca Glasscock, the. The established villain of the season, going on to glory.

[A]

That's like. But she ain't die.

[C]

What in the church? And Rebecca Glasscock, the established. The officially established villain of the season, stays to slay and annoy the other girls another day. And what do you think so far of this season? Continues to. I'm like, this is a great season.

[A]

That's a good season for sure. Obviously, we didn't talk about Angina's moment. Her. When she wins a challenge, she breaks down, and she has a very visceral reaction to winning because Aunjana had been, at that point, HIV positive for two years, and this is a television show airing that was gonna be on tv, and she didn't tell her parents or her family. So to have this moment and say with her full chest on TV that she is HIV positive was a big moment and brings her to her fucking knees. Girl, that is a very brave thing to do, especially with, again, with all the stigma that was still going on along back then

[C]

and without. They're still stigma today, and we can do our part to get rid of some of that stigma. And if you want to figure out how you can help in the fight again to end HIV and aids, of

[A]

course you can go to.

[C]

There's so many organizations that you can. That you can look up and, you know, I love the AIDS Walk is a really great foundation that I love to support here in New York City.

[A]

ALC is.

[C]

What do you think of this season so far?

[A]

It's good. I think a lot of us who are watching this with us for the first time are thoroughly enjoying ourselves. It's a fun season. And. Yeah, go Drag Race.

[C]

All right, we'll see you all next episode.

[A]

All right,

[B]

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