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Bob the Drag Queen
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Monet X Change
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Monet X Change
Y'. All, listen, this is s Living Rivalry podcast. We only have 8,000 reviews on on Apple and we should have.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's shady.
Monet X Change
We have hundreds of thousands of. Hundreds of thousands of listeners, bitch. We have almost 20,000 on our Patreon. So. So there should be at least 20k reviews on Apple podcasts.
Bob the Drag Queen
So if you all could please go and give us a review over on Spotify, over on Apple Podcasts, over on Everywhere, wherever you listen to your podcast. Please, please, please. It helps a lot. So give us that review. We need those sweet, sweet delicioso reviews.
Monet X Change
And also, even if you don't listen on Apple podcasts, you get it as an Apple user, when you have, if you have an iPhone, just download the app and go. Leave a five star review and a comment. That's all you gotta do. It's going to take you literally, literally one minute to do all of that. Thank you, Rob the Drag Queen. We are here at episode five of Sibling Watcher, season one of RuPaul's Drag Race. You know, I want to do a mid season check in. How are you feeling about this season so far?
Bob the Drag Queen
This remains one of my favorite seasons. This is the season that made me love Drag Race. This, this is. These are a lot of the queens that you know. The more I watch this show, the more I realize a lot of these things are really etched in my brain. And I don't think I have. The only time I've ever rewatched a season was on this. This podcast. We rewatched season eight. We re. We rewatched ten.
Monet X Change
We started ten. We started doing watch parties on ten on a Patreon. But.
Bob the Drag Queen
And then. So I've only ever rewatched things through sibling rivalry and. But I'm really gagged at how much this stuff is etched. Etched into my brain. 16 years later. It's kind of gaggy.
Monet X Change
I mean, yeah, it's tv. I don't think we realize how TV has a big impact on like, a lot of us, especially like our generation. I was thinking, obviously if I was born before TVs, I wouldn't miss it. Cause it's something that wasn't around. But that's not true. Cause as I've gotten older, I feel like I'm watching less TV because I don't know why. I'm just watching less tv. Before I used to be like, bitch, I didn't watch my programs. I watched this thing, blah, blah, blah, blah. And now I'm just not like that anymore. The older I get, I'm kind of like, I don't need TV. But TV's very. Yeah, I don't know why. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. Do you feel like you watch a lot of tv? I want definitely watch less than I did before. You say what?
Bob the Drag Queen
I do not watch. I don't watch a lot of TV now.
Monet X Change
Yeah, even like. Even like big shows like secession people like, oh, you got to watch this thing. I'm like, yeah, sure. And I just like kind of just don't do it. I want to. I just don't.
Bob the Drag Queen
Some of them I do watch and I really do love them, but, you know, I really have gotten into FD signifier. Who is this amazing youtuber. I want to give a big. A quick shout out to FD signifier. And I think it's not paid, by
Monet X Change
the way, the Bob just giving people free promotion.
Bob the Drag Queen
Honestly, I think FT signifier deserves it. He's really. He makes really, really good content. And I think his name is Lone Eyepatch Wolf. I might be saying his name wrong. Or Lone Wolf Eyepatch or I can't remember. Okay. Oh, his name is Super Eyepatch Wolf. Super Eyepatch Wolf is also great. And then the last two I will give you a shout out to if you like video essays. I've been really into video essays lately. Super Eyepatch Wolf. FD Signifier Cat Black. And
Monet X Change
I got into Cat black back in Azraya days, as Ray put them onto cat black back in, like, back in saliva times. Because they. They used to have a lot of discourse on Facebook, I think. I don't remember as rabbi got consciousness of cat block. Yeah, she's very, very, very smart.
Bob the Drag Queen
But speaking of black people back in the day. Speaking of back in the day, let's go to episode five of season one of Republic Drag Race. This is Drag School of Charm.
Monet X Change
You are so cringy. That transition was crunchier than that wig that Rebecca Glasgock wore last episode.
Bob the Drag Queen
So Jade just went home, right? And I. I really did forget how much these queens do not like Rebecca Glasscock. These girls do not like her. They are mad.
Monet X Change
Well, it's also. It's like the first thing Chanel says. Like, the camera, they come in the workroom, and Bibi's like, it's weird or whatever. And the first cutaway is. I'm talking. The first confessional talking head of sh. Being like, you know, know, Rebecca should have went home. And I just really do not like her. Like, she just like.
Bob the Drag Queen
I real. She go. She goes, jade and shouldn't go. Jade had a great personality, and Rebecca does not.
Monet X Change
Right. It's like. It's just. It really just feels like.
Bob the Drag Queen
Have you ever been disliked like that
Monet X Change
or Assassination of Rebecca Glasscock. And every chance everyone gets in a
Bob the Drag Queen
confession, have you ever been disliked by group people?
Monet X Change
I don't think so. I've always been a pretty well liked. Even when I was a fat, feminine, black fucking kid in school, I was always well liked by people. I don't know. I wasn't popular, but I was always well liked. It's always kind of been my thing. But I cannot imagine watching a season back and being like, oh, my God, it's my first time on tv. I can't wait to see myself on tv. And every. Not every, but a lot of the confessionals, when people don't do not like someone, it's about me. That would be really unfortunate to watch.
Bob the Drag Queen
When I was in college, there was this one guy, and I cannot remember his name, but this was when Facebook groups were big. And I don't know if you guys know this or not, but Facebook groups were often used to bully people. People would often use Facebook groups as a way to bully other people. You can make Facebook group groups, and you have to request to join it. And there was this group, it was called, like, let's say the guy's name was like, Kevin Caldwell. It was like, Kevin Caldwell is a piece of shit. And this group had so many people in it. It had, like, so many people in the group. And I don't know. I would just. That would crush me if I saw that. That was like. I don't know. Actually. I don't know how I feel about it, but I know that it can't have. It cannot have felt good.
Monet X Change
Well,
Bob the Drag Queen
yeah. The Lady Gaga group, I remember used to use Facebook groups to bully people. There was one called Stephanie Gianbernada, you will never be famous.
Monet X Change
I did not know her first name was spelled, so. That is such an Italian way to spell it. S, T, E, F, A, N, I. Wow.
Bob the Drag Queen
She tells you she's Italian. Yes. Stephanie Germanata. You will never be famous.
Monet X Change
And a picture is just a picture of Gaga. Well, Stephanie Germanotta. That is. That is so mean. Oh, my God.
Bob the Drag Queen
I forgot about the years of Facebook groups to bully people. I almost completely forgot about this group.
Monet X Change
I never experienced that for myself or anyone else. I was never part of one, or one was never made about me. I didn't know these were a thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. There used to be this group at csu, this group that was very controversial called Whites at csu. And it was a group for the white people at my college. And we, the people of color, we got wind of. And we was like, what is this group? So we was like, we going. We going. We going to get up in this group and see what y' all got going on in there. They would not let us in. We were like, we're going to find out what is happening in this group. So then they end up starting this other. So I was like, did you guys know there's a group called whites at CSU? And it. the time, it really irritated. I was like, y' all need to. We need to know what y' all doing up in this group. Let us up in this group so we can see what the hell y' all doing. It was a whole thing. A whole thing. And then someone else started a group called Let Christopher Caldwell join Whites at csu. It was. It was insane.
Monet X Change
Interesting. Well, I'm sure if they had Facebook groups when they filmed this, they would definitely have everybody except Rebecca Glascock or, like, Rebecca Glasscock is a bitch group for Drag Race season one. They absolutely would start one of the. If they had their cell phones.
Bob the Drag Queen
Um, and now I want to. So we. So the. The Rumail comes on, right? And then walks in. She has a lot of these athletes with her. And for some reason, upon. Upon the entrance of these athletes, these. These These. These women in athletics. Bibi is very stressed out. Very stressed out.
Monet X Change
Well, Bibi, Zahra, Bine. Um, it's also so interesting to see B. Bibi back here also just to see the eyebrows of these girls again. We know eyebrows definitely go in fashion, in and out of fashion. And everyone's eyebrows are so thin here. Did you notice that?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I did notice, yeah. Yeah, for sure.
Monet X Change
Like pencil things.
Bob the Drag Queen
I've been thinking a lot about trends and how they come and go. It's been really interesting. I've been looking at it a lot lately, and just. Especially the visual aesthetics and how things come and go. And, you know, the real truth is this may come as no shock to anyone. I have never been on trend with any sort of fashion or aesthetic. I very much always kind of marched the beat of my own drum, especially fashion wise, so I've never really been on trend. And Monet, you are very good at being, like, hip and what's. What. What folks are doing nowadays, and, like, you know, very good at finding out what the. The cool thing is and doing the cool thing. And that has never been a strong suit of mine as long as. As long as I've been alive.
Monet X Change
It's because I'm a New Yorker. We kind of. Kind of just. It's kind of like our nature is that we, like, function. Because also, New York is a very trendy city.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I mean, I lived in New York City for a while. Yeah, I understand that. Um, but. But I just. I just. I've just never been good at. I don't know, being on train is not. Is. It's too much. It's too much for me. I'm like, I gotta do my own thing.
Monet X Change
So the athletes come in and RuPaul tells them. Well, they have the. The one athlete speaks, and then they find out they're gonna have to do this kind of, like, physical strength training with these. With these athletes. And it is so interesting. Well, so funny to see these, like, faggots trying to be physical. I mean, they're kicking a bag and they're acting like they're. They're. They're. They're. They're kicking on a wall of bricks. I'm like, girl, you're kicking a bag. It's not. It is not that physically demanding. It is. I think it's very comical. I'm like, girl, come on, it's not that bad. They have to be putting up with a camera. It's a bag.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think they're putting. I think some people are Just not that physically fit. I think some people are just. Monet. I think that you forget that some people don't. They dabble in physical athletics. Some people just are not in these streets throwing kicks and punches, I guess.
Monet X Change
And clearly, I mean, Chanel literally, like, breaks down. She. She. She. She punches the bag, and she starts to hyperventilate. She needs time. She needs to. She needs some water. She needs some cpr. She needs a defibrillator.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was like, I'm obsessed with Chanel's kicks. I'm obsessed with Chanel's kicks, the way she is kicking. So they go through the kick thing, right? And then they go, okay, we're gonna have this thing where everyone has to ground and pound or you kick, kick, kick, hit the ground. Kick, kick, kick. No, is it punch, punch, punch, Hit the ground. Punch, punch, punch, Hit the ground. Punch, punch, punch, hit the ground. Punch, punch, hit the ground. And as they're all punching, BB Is the first one out. BB Is like, I'm out. Cause first Chanel was like, I can't do this, Chanel. After the kicks and the grounding, pal, Chanel was like, I'm tired. But then she was like, no, I'm gonna get back in this. I'm not gonna let Rebecca Glasscock fucking win. So then Bebe is the first one out, and all the girls are peeling off like flies. It comes down to Chanel and Rebecca Glasscock, who are. Who kind of been established at this point as enemies in the show, because
Monet X Change
everyone is Rebecca's enemy. Rebecca's enemy, everyone.
Bob the Drag Queen
There seems to be a thing. What I'm getting is this visual that Rebecca is succeeding. Chanel is not, and that is driving Chanel crazy. Especially in this episode. Especially in this episode. So it comes down to the last two, the last two girls. And Chanel has to acknowledge that Rebecca Glasscock is the fitness queen.
Monet X Change
Well, before, Rebecca's mortal enemy was J. Julie. I mean, Jade Sotomayor. So now that Jade is. Now that Rebecca has vanquished Jade, now Chanel is her new fucking big bad in this season. It's like every time she gets rid of one, she has to take care, take another one out.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you feel bad for. Do you sympathize with her? Do you relate to her?
Monet X Change
I absolutely sympathize with. I absolutely sympathize with Rebecca Glascott, because, again, you and I weren't there, right? But I cannot imagine that Rebecca is behaving in such a way to warrant so much hate by these people watching this thing back. I I. I just.
Bob the Drag Queen
But. But they all hate her. So are they. So either the question is, are they all acting wild or is she acting wild? Right.
Monet X Change
Yeah, you're.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're.
Monet X Change
That is correct. There'll be something she's doing that they all are having this reaction, but it just seems. I mean, on camera, we're not seeing what this behavior is that is making her so hated. Like on your season. On your season, was. Who was the. The villain of your season was Derrick G. I think.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
Was. Was Derek that. When you watching it back, was Derek that crazy? Was Derek. Was that warranted?
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think that Derek was the villain in the way that. I don't think any of us. None of us said we hated Derek. I don't think anyone was like, derek is a bad person. Derek is the fakest I've ever. No one was. We weren't saying those things about Derek. So there were no sound bites of anyone being like, Derek is the fakest bitch you will ever meet in your life.
Monet X Change
We.
Bob the Drag Queen
We just thought Derek was kind of annoying. Was Derek annoying? In the moment? Yeah. But also like, kind of charming too, though. And I think in a competition setting, it was annoying, but in real life, Derek's not annoying. No, but in a competition setting, when you don't know each other that well, it was. Derek was a little bit annoying, but I don't think that that is a true trait of Derek. It was just like the competition made us feel that way toward Derek. In my best. That's fair. I can't speak right now. And the only people who argue with Derek DNA.
Monet X Change
Only later on was there someone in. I'm trying to think of Dragger's history who kind of got this same Rebecca Glasgow treatment. Sharon and Fifi.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, Fifi got certain. I mean. You mean he got like a villain edit. I mean, Fifi got. I mean, Jeremy got Jeremy. Jeremy Carrey got a villain edit.
Monet X Change
Not villain edit, but like she.
Bob the Drag Queen
Cuz.
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Cuz.
Monet X Change
Cuz Rebecca Lana.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, well, annoying at it got annoy.
Monet X Change
Rebecca's not being. Rebecca's not being painted as annoying. They're saying, like, she's fake. Like, I'm trying to think who in
Bob the Drag Queen
Drag Race has been the fake Tatiana Tat. Or they were like. Like she's. Or she's. Her book is shit. Her. You remember that quote? Tatiana was like. You called me. I would never call you shit. Then it cuts ribbon going, she is her book is her perfume is her essence is she is shit. Maybe, maybe not.
Monet X Change
Maybe.
Bob the Drag Queen
Maybe. I don't know. Maybe Maybe, I don't know, Aiden Zayn a little bit. I feel like a lot of girls did not like Aiden Zayn that I remember to the point where Heidi had to come and fight in her defense.
Monet X Change
Oh, yeah, Brita. Brita hated Brita. Aiden Zane. Oh, my God. Britain. Aiden Zayn. That's like the Rebecca and fucking Jade. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, so Rebecca wins the mini challenge, and as a prize, Rebecca gets to pair up all the queens with the athletes for the makeover challenge. Yeah. So we find out this is. This is the first ever makeover challenge and in the history of Drag Race, which has been a staple in literally every single season of Drag Race since then. And this time they're making over women who don't typically wear a lot of makeup.
Monet X Change
How would you do in a physical challenge that they did? I would do very well.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. I would do well. Yeah. I mean, I, I work out enough and when I do work out, people are always like, oh, you're not a big fat slob. And I'm like, yep, I am. I'm. I mean, I'm not, I'm not a world class athlete, but I am, I'm fit enough to engage in physical activity. So when I go to, when I go to the gym, I'm not like, you know, so to answer. To answer your question, I. While I'm not. Whilst I would not consider myself an athlete, I would say that I am physically fit. How do you, how would you classify?
Monet X Change
I'm definitely, I'm definitely physically fit. I think I do a ver. I wish Drag Race had more physical challenges like that, honestly, like, I would have loved to do, like that wrestling challenge of season four. I would have loved to do the chair leaving one of season nine. Like, I wish I want draggers to have more physical challenges.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, it sounds like you keep naming a lot of physical challenges.
Monet X Change
What they do have.
Bob the Drag Queen
It seems like you keep naming all the physical. You mean like one for every season?
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2.
Monet X Change
Two out of the millions of challenges at this point.
Bob the Drag Queen
I guess there's also the kickboxing challenge, the dance, the dancing challenge. They just did the mini kickboxing thing with the kicking in the box, in the bags and the ground and pound.
Monet X Change
Yeah, yeah. Three out of, like, all of these challenges feel like season 10 hadn't. Did not have a single physical one. There was.
Bob the Drag Queen
Because you would have got crushed. Cameron Michaels, who want to see this?
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Monet X Change
Carol Michaels. We would have definitely give you a run for my money.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's the only person not about strength when it comes to, like, proportion, strength. Aquaria is a very fit person.
Monet X Change
Aquaria is fit when it comes to what? Strength. Proportion. Strength. Strength.
Bob the Drag Queen
Strength in proportion to your body. So obviously she tiny, so she can't bench press, but I bet she can do like a lot of push ups and a lot of sit ups and like, she has a lot of endurance.
Monet X Change
Aquaria, Aquaria is not a physical. Aquaria is not that kind of girl. I know what you're talking about.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think she can do more push ups than you.
Monet X Change
I don't, I don't. I don't think so.
Bob the Drag Queen
Aquaria right now upload a video of you doing push ups and then Monet will try to match it. She will try, try, try. Very physically fit.
Monet X Change
Do you know how many. Do you know how many pitches I can do just free?
Bob the Drag Queen
Not as many. Not as many as I know. Not as less. You know what?
Monet X Change
Okay, you know what? But I know not do more than you.
Bob the Drag Queen
Look at you. Can't even get the words out.
Monet X Change
I can do more than you.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can't even get the words out.
Monet X Change
I can do more than you, nigga.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can you? Can you lift more than me?
Monet X Change
Absolutely.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can you?
Monet X Change
Bob, this is not up for debate. Not even a question in my mind. Absolutely. I can bench more than you. I can lift more than you. I can squat more than you. Unequivocally, I have never been more sure of anything in my life.
Bob the Drag Queen
Interesting.
Monet X Change
Yeah, interesting. And we don't need to be next to each other to do this. We can literally do it virtually. And I will crush you in a physical challenge.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. Whenever you want. Literally whenever you want. Okay. Okay. When I tell you this is something I'm literally not worried about. Literally.
Monet X Change
You genuinely think that you are more physically fit than me?
Bob the Drag Queen
Whenever you want. Literally whenever you want. What are you doing today?
Monet X Change
What do you mean?
Bob the Drag Queen
We're gonna have a push up endurance contest right now. You can see, you can do the most push ups.
Monet X Change
We can do it right now. Right now.
Bob the Drag Queen
You ready? Here we go.
Monet X Change
Okay, well, angle your camera down. Well, actually, Jay's gonna be so mad. Jay gonna be like, what the you got.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm afraid, my camera back. I want to point out that every time we've ever arm wrestled, I have destroyed this little ass. This little weak short arm wrestling. Every time. Every single time. You have been crushed. You're boyfriend and your boyfriend and your boyfriend.
Monet X Change
Let's do the push ups right now.
Bob the Drag Queen
And your boyfriend. I beat both of your ass. Yeah, you and your boyfriend. You, Andrew. Every single time, you and your weak little bitch ass boyfriend rushed Jacob. And we have video proof of that, honey, we'll do it again.
Monet X Change
You've never. First of all, you've never arm wrestled me. That was only Andy.
Bob the Drag Queen
You've been crushed. And we can. Next time I see you on site without, I will grab your hands and break deflecting.
Monet X Change
But y' all see him?
Bob the Drag Queen
This is.
Monet X Change
This is Bob weaseling his way out of the push up challenge. You see? Y' all see this? This is how he works.
Bob the Drag Queen
I just said we're doing the end of the podcast. If we're doing the podcast, we're doing the end of podcast. That was verbatim. What I said we're going to do the whole podcast. Oh, I didn't hear that.
Monet X Change
Okay, at the end of the podcast, shake on it.
Bob the Drag Queen
By the way, you also already owe me like $35,000. We've already covered that. Which you'll never pay me money.
Monet X Change
No one is betting money. We're just saying I will crush it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I want to point out something we said last week. I told y' all that Monet would never write that fanfic, that romance novel. I am.
Monet X Change
You lying.
Bob the Drag Queen
Open your document. Open the document right now. Send me the document.
Monet X Change
And what? And send it to you? I'm not sending to you.
Bob the Drag Queen
Send me the document.
Monet X Change
Send me the document anyway. I'm writing my screen.
Bob the Drag Queen
Share it, Monet. You can screen share it
Monet X Change
anyway. We have got off the rail.
Bob the Drag Queen
Look at Monet Weasland. Because she's. I'm trying to type right now. Monet's like, let me go ahead and get some. You are lying. Yeah, Monet. Is that. You are a bad liar. You're a bad liar.
Monet X Change
You are a bad liar, and you're. I may be a bad liar, but you're a bad person. How about that?
Bob the Drag Queen
Next time, you just got to go to chatgpt. Chat GBT could do it right now. You could have. You could have had GBT do it. You say, hey, this is fire.
Monet X Change
This is how team bought the Drag Queen things. Y' all see that they already think about Chat, gbt and all these. That's how Team Bob the Drag Queen operates.
Bob the Drag Queen
But your thought is polite. Monet's first thoughts go, I am writing. And be like, you are writing. Then screen share it.
Monet X Change
No, I'm not gonna do it for your satisfaction.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is literally Kandy Muse and the huge train. But, like, I have the train. It's in the suitcase. I'm not gonna show you. I'm not. But I assure you. But, baby, the train is there. I still have it. To this day, I'm never gonna show anyone. You are Katie Hughes with the train right now.
Monet X Change
We are 27 minutes into this podcast, and we are not even a quarter of the way through.
Bob the Drag Queen
See, look at my trying to work her way out of. Just admit you don't have it so we can move on. We'll move on. You don't have. You didn't write anything. Which I have.
Monet X Change
I have it. I'm not entertaining this. Anyway, I want to say this.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're lying. I want to say lying.
Monet X Change
I want to. Oh, did I just delete my notes? Oh,
Bob the Drag Queen
I deleted it. Oops.
Monet X Change
Why does Chanel always have a skull cap on? Do you think Chanel's balding?
Bob the Drag Queen
I haven't really given that much thought, to be honest. And I didn't notice that she was always wearing a skull cap.
Monet X Change
She's always wearing that, Scully. When she's not in drag. At least she's not wearing a drag.
Bob the Drag Queen
Maybe she's cold. Or maybe that's. I don't know. Maybe it's her. Bitch.
Monet X Change
They can afford AC back then. Season eight, they could barely afford. You think season one, they got it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I hadn't really given much thought to why she wears that skull cap, to be honest. Rebecca, there's no more immunity, and Angina is wishing at this point that she had some, which we found out later that that. That is a. That was appropriate. And she probably does wish that she had some.
Monet X Change
Well, not now, Jacob. That's Chanel now. Oh, my God, she looks so different.
Bob the Drag Queen
Time changes things. Hat
Monet X Change
so, yeah, so they get the different makeover partners. And we found out that Chanel's person has never put on makeup before.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was like, yeah, she's actually being really like. Every time Chanel gets closer to the makeup, she's like, ah, ah, ah, ah.
Monet X Change
How do you go so long and never having. I just can't imagine. I guess there are people out here that never put makeup on before. Makeup is just such a part of obviously my world. I just couldn't imagine. Not even like a little. A little something never put on ever before in their life. That's very interesting to me.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was talking to someone the other day who told me they had never worn a pair of heels. Never were like, almost 30. Who was it? I don't know who it was, but I was like, you've never worn a pair of heels ever. Like, you've never once, even as a goof, ever put on a pair of.
Monet X Change
Straight guy. I can get it. But if you. Anyone outside of a straight.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think it was someone gay. Or maybe one of the dancers was like, I didn't wear heels until I did this gig or something. Maybe that's what it was. Maybe one of the dancers, like, I didn't ever wear a pair of heels until. Until this gig or something. I was like, how have you gone this far in life being gay and you never want a pair of heels?
Monet X Change
Right?
Bob the Drag Queen
Or. Honestly, I also don't understand how. I've heard when people say, when I do we're here. I hear a lot of people say, I've never worn a wig. And I'm like, not even for Halloween. You've never put a wig on your head. That's what. And I get it. I get it. I wear more wigs than most people. I. That's not. That's not lost on me for sure.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
How you can make it that far in life and never have worn a
Monet X Change
wig, like, go to, like, a fucking spirit Halloween or something and never like that. That seems wild. Not even like a little shitty, shitty Chucky wig or a little shitty little plastic party city wig? Never.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, that's wild to me. Yeah. But she. Sweet Pea. Her name is Sweet Pea. Sweet Pea has never worn anything. She's being very nervous about, you know, getting this makeup on her face. And it's really interesting to see each queen's relationship with their athlete, especially Bibi, at one point says to her, athlete, you will do what I want you to do.
Monet X Change
I wrote that.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm really writing down quotes. You will do what I want you to do.
Monet X Change
I was like, yeah, because Bibi's person, they don't like to wear a lot of makeup. They put it on before, but they don't like a lot. And Bebe just in the most serious way, she goes, she said she's like, I don't like a lot of makeup. And Bibi goes, you are going to do what I want you to do. And I was like, that is very off putting. I would not like that. I would like. Excuse me.
Bob the Drag Queen
You will do what I want you to do. Well, I mean, these girls are also like, now they realize girls are going home and they do not. Speaking of tough love, baby, Rebecca is not fucking around with Temple. Rebecca is letting Temple have it. Letting her have it.
Monet X Change
Love it.
Bob the Drag Queen
And.
Monet X Change
But I mean, Temple is very whiny. Like, she's like whiny. She's like, oh, can we have to. I just like, Temple is whining a lot and. And I, I'm like, girl, they're just heels. You're not walking.
Bob the Drag Queen
Why?
Monet X Change
People put on heels for the first time and they act like they're walking on, like, I get it maybe hard, but they act like they're on razor blades and their feet are burnt. I'm like, your feet don't instantly start hurting when you put on heels. Like, it's not like that. I never understand that.
Bob the Drag Queen
Maybe not your feet. Maybe your feet don't necessarily start hurting.
Monet X Change
I think my feet would. I have big old shrek feet.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay.
Monet X Change
I know that this bitch is not coming from the trek community.
Bob the Drag Queen
If so, I will say, I mean, my feet don't hurt the moment I put on heels. But I will say, if so many people are, like, doing it, then maybe there's some truth to it. Maybe. Maybe some heels do hurt some people's feet. It's not an experience I have for sure. My feet, I can. I mean, my feet hurt now more than they did when I first started drag. When I first started, baby, I could wear heels until the cows come home. Now I have like a. Before I have to take my shoes off, I have a solid. Well, it depends. If I'm on stage, I can do the whole show. Obviously I can do the entire show. But the moment I'm off stage, we're taking these shoes off. Like, the moment.
Monet X Change
But you and I have both had the experience of putting on heels for the first time. And I'm thinking back to the first time I put on heels. They were definitely way too small. They were not my size, but it wasn't like the very first time you put on heels, did you have. Did you. Were you stumbling around and like. Like. Like, did you have that experience? I just don't remember having that experience. Like. Like, I was like, no, this feels.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is a different.
Monet X Change
A new sensation, but I can do this. It wasn't like, whoa. It wasn't all that.
Bob the Drag Queen
That wasn't my first experience. But I will say that I am in a unique position where I've seen a lot of people put on heels. For the first time. I felt like. I felt like just short of working at a shoe store, I have seen probably more people put on heels for the first time than most people have. And I will say it is a very common, very common sensation. Or even people who just don't wear heels very often, they're just like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You know what I mean?
Monet X Change
Oh, this thing is gay. Gays. Gay men are like. Well, I mean, you are working with gay men as well. Oh, you've seen a lot of gay men. I think gay men are like, bitch, we got this. Like, we're just. It just innate in us. We, like, just, like, we're predisposed to being able to walk in heels from the very first time we put them on. I feel.
Bob the Drag Queen
Watch. Loved it. The queens and the athletes have swapped places because the queens were getting their asses handed to them, and now these athletes are getting their asses handed to them, and these athletes are just not faring well. They are not keeping well, honey. Which goes to show that there is a level of endurance, athleticism, and strength that comes with drag.
Monet X Change
I agree. Also, we find out that Sweet Pea has also never worn a bra before.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I'm actually kind of. And I'm kind of triggered by Nina's drag daughter, because she's. She's Russian or Ukrainian. And I'm just thinking back to my drag. My drag child on the show, who was. Who was Russian.
Monet X Change
Oh, we're here.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, on RuPaul's Drag Race. On the swap.
Monet X Change
On the.
Bob the Drag Queen
On the. On the drag makeover, I had a. I had a Russian lady.
Monet X Change
You did. Oh, this is what you did when y' all did the Little Women of la. I mean.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, little Women. La. Yeah. And. And they were. And my lady was Russian, and she was, you know, very particular about her face, and she wanted to do her own makeup, but the producers will not let you do your own makeup. So she kept being like, why don't you do this? And they produced a lot. And then. Well, actually, the producers weren't gonna say anything, but the girls were like, she's helping Bob, she's helping. The girls are like. What do you call it when you. Loudspeaker? No, megaphone. Their megaphone. They're like, she's helping Bob. She's doing her eyebrows. And then they made her wipe her face off. And then this is one of the reasons why I was so late. Cause then. Cause she started her face and then I had to.
Monet X Change
Oh, that's the reason.
Bob the Drag Queen
Also one of my. Also my outfit broke as well. There was a lot going on. I had to remake her outfit or my outfit, I can't remember. Anyway, so she had to wipe her face off and I had to redo her face and then do. It was low key. Wild. That was a wild episode.
Monet X Change
So for season 10 or All Stars 4, yesterday, they brought out our best Judies. I think we talked about it before, but they had hit up Bob and they also hit up Jay, who edits this podcast. And then ultimately they got Patty. Like, could you imagine if Bob was my makeover? That would have been so fun.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, they called me to ask me who. They never called me to ask me if I could do it. They called me to ask me who I should whoever. And I said. And I said, kumika and Patty got it.
Monet X Change
They called Jay too. I don't know how they got Jay's number.
Bob the Drag Queen
Girl on the bathroom stall. Girl in the bathroom stall. Honey, we've all got Jay's number mistake.
Monet X Change
You know Jamie doing that guac walk. 3,000.
Bob the Drag Queen
Honey, you think Jay does. You think Jay gives. Gives a good gog. Gawk. 3000.
Monet X Change
Do you remember that time when we were on the thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Don't disrespect my girl.
Monet X Change
We were on the thing and we were somewhere. I think Eugene and I were on the phone for something or. And you just. You were actually. You were like, jay, you be sucking thick. And Jay was. Got very uncomfortable because Jay was very nervous. Jay was like, what are you talking about? Jay was like, no, you're like, jay, answer the question. And he was just laughing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you think Jay's gonna keep this part in the podcast?
Monet X Change
He better. Bitch, Jay should not be out here deleting footages. He would be sued.
Bob the Drag Queen
Bitch, you gotta get sued. All this with the fucking.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Anyway, so Chanel is about something that Chanel said. I love these quotes. I love writing down what Chanel says. Chanel is about representing eyes and glamour and diva and strength and body.
Monet X Change
She looks great. I really like Chanel.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wait, let me read that again. Chanel is about representing eyes and glamour and and diva and eating and potty. I ate a Chex mix. Yeah, I had a Chex mix here. I did. I did have a bite of a Chex mix. Now this. I didn't think I did it right in front of you.
Monet X Change
I didn't notice. You are such a Bob. You are like a hood. This was, you know about
Bob the Drag Queen
that is. First of all, I am not. You can always tell me I'm. I am not hood bitch.
Monet X Change
You like some.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm a little country. I am a little country, but I am not hood. Never been talk to you.
Monet X Change
But country people can be hood too. That is the hood, y' all just not. Y' all just don't call it the hood.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, the country. We have hood in the country. I'm just not from the hood. I'm not hood. You claim you're a hood bitch. I'm not a hood bitch. Ok?
Monet X Change
Everything you just did was just hood. Just Chanel is about
Bob the Drag Queen
that is not
Monet X Change
so Ru comes in and Ru loves a twist on a makeover challenge. He's like, ladies, one more thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
In their defense, I could because normally everyone's like, what? But this time legit, right?
Monet X Change
Like asking someone who has never put on makeup before, never worn heels, now asking them to Lip sync, like, now you have to teach someone how to lip sync. People were like, oh, it's easy. Just lip syncing. Lip syncing is an art form. Like, lip syncing is not just as easy as just moving your lips to a song. There are different as well for it to be good. There are different aspects that come into making a lip sync good, and that's emoting and teaching. Like, and I think Chanel's actually doing a good job. Well, we didn't see what the other people, what the other girls did with their person, but Chanel was like. Was really. Honestly, I feel, gave her good insight how and how to do a good lip sync. I was like, oh, these are very good tips for. For. For someone learning how to lip sync Chanel.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I don't know that they paid off, because, I mean, I know we're fast forwarding a bit, but those performances were garbage. Oh, they were bad. They were bad. And I kept thinking to myself, I wonder if they made them lip sync the entire songs, because I cannot imagine sitting there, what, six times or five times watching that.
Monet X Change
Five times.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, watching that five times. No, negative. So bad. So bad. So bad.
Monet X Change
Yeah, it was. It was. It was not great.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I feel like, am I wild or. Let's go head over to the main stage. Did Bibi's girl wear heels or am I like, loony? Let's talk about RuPaul's RuPaul's dress. I love RuPaul's dress. What are your thoughts?
Monet X Change
I like it, too. I like. I wish it went in more at the knees, actually, to give us more of a silhouette. And at the waist, like, because now RuPaul be snatched up into ways RuPaul gives you. VA voom.
Bob the Drag Queen
Here.
Monet X Change
It's a little loosey goosey.
Bob the Drag Queen
I can see that. Yeah. This is before. This is before RuPaul got that Ozempic, honey. This is back. I do not know RuPaul on ZIC. That was a bit. Do not go and say confirmed RuPaul's on OIC. I do not know.
Monet X Change
That was a bit.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I. I really need to make that abundantly clear to everyone today. That was a.
Monet X Change
And then they're going to rope me in Monet and Bob said the RuPaul. No, I did not say anything. First of all, let's be very clear.
Bob the Drag Queen
Mother Ozippi. Mother Legendary house of Ozempic.
Monet X Change
I did not say this joke. It's not me
Bob the Drag Queen
from the legendary house of Way Govee. Give it up for Mother Ozempic.
Monet X Change
Oh. Because there Is. Oh, someone. I was out last night and someone was telling me.
Bob the Drag Queen
They were like, it's always been skinny, though.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I was out last night and someone was like, this queen who apparently hangs out. She was like. You know, a few months ago, we were at. I was at Michelle Visage's house, and we were on the couch watching. We were, like, watching YouTube clips and a clip of you and Bob talking about if Michelle's husband was cheating. We were talking about, like, if people's spouses were cheating, would we tell them? And then Michelle was like, I can't believe Bob. And when they said that they wouldn't tell me, and I was like, it's not our business.
Bob the Drag Queen
If I caught Michelle Hudson cheating, I'd be like, look, I'd be like,
Monet X Change
michelle is upset. She's like, I cannot believe that Bob and Monet said they would not tell me. She's upset.
Bob the Drag Queen
Baby. When I say I didn't see nothing,
Monet X Change
I can see I'm blind.
Bob the Drag Queen
Blind. I thought that was his cousin. Anyway,
Monet X Change
everybody kissed their cousin like that.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I actually like that Bebe didn't make her athlete dress up in African drag. Like, that would have been weird to me.
Monet X Change
It would have been weird. It would have been weird. But I'm guessing, bb, this person is doing something that is culturally appropriate for them.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I think she obviously chose. Like, I think that her. Her. Her. Her athlete was Indian, and obviously BB is. Is Cameroonian, and, like, is Bibi born in Cameroon?
Monet X Change
Cameroon?
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, she has an accent, and so.
Monet X Change
So she is.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I don't know where she's born, but she. At least. Well, I know she. She. She wasn't born in America because she just became American, like, two years ago.
Monet X Change
Oh, really?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Bibi's like.
Monet X Change
BB's like your surrogate drag mother. You should know this.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm the one that told you. I'm the one telling you right now.
Monet X Change
Oh, yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Also, shout out to Assad, who just got his green card, like, maybe, like, a couple of months ago. American Boy aside, Mom calls me American Boy, which is so funny to me. American Boy.
Monet X Change
I think that Bibi looks gorgeous. Actually, I'm living. I think BB's outfit is very. I. She looks great to me.
Bob the Drag Queen
I agree. And I. And I. And I think that her. That her. Her athlete looks great. And I'm glad that she didn't make her dress up in African, you know, in an African aesthetic. I think that that was smart, and I think she was good. Except I can't tell if she's wearing a flat, but I feel like she was wearing flats. And if so, that irritates me.
Monet X Change
I didn't. I guess I didn't. I didn't even notice that. But so I got to take your word on it. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't notice see that at all.
Bob the Drag Queen
Chanel and Sweet Pea.
Monet X Change
I think they Both look sweet.
Bob the Drag Queen
P.E.
Monet X Change
is wretched.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, it's not great, but it's not horrible. You and I, in our defense, have both worn worse wigs, and probably on RuPaul's Drag Race. Okay, this is season. This is season one.
Monet X Change
I never won a bad wig on RuPaul Drag Race. Every week I've won a RuPaul Drag Race has been great. I'm not even trying to be funny or do a thing. What? Which one was bad?
Bob the Drag Queen
One. One.
Monet X Change
Anyway, I've never worn a bag. I have had bad outfits. My hair. I can't say. I can confidently say I've not worn a bad wig on RuPaul's Drag Race.
Bob the Drag Queen
Listen, that's you. The fans are going to be the ones taking your pictures, not me. The fans gonna be taking your pictures. That's between you and your. And your. And your Monet.
Monet X Change
Oh, my God. And my God.
Bob the Drag Queen
Honey, honey, your constituents are about to turn on you, Miss Mama.
Monet X Change
Here goes Jacob. Here goes Jacob. That is not a bad wig. I love that wig.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, that's a bad wig.
Monet X Change
That is not a bad wig. It's not a bad wig.
Bob the Drag Queen
Mama. This is garbage. Mama, this is. This is not a bad wig.
Monet X Change
What are you talking about?
Bob the Drag Queen
Then wear it tomorrow. Wear it to your next gig.
Monet X Change
I don't have it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Then get it remade just like that and wear it to your next. If it's so good, keep wearing it. If this wig is so great, wear it again.
Monet X Change
First of all, I just don't wear wigs like that anymore. That is not my aesthetic. But that is not a bad wig.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's a great wig.
Monet X Change
The tail was bad also. Oh, my God, look at my makeup. We got to go through. Okay, after this watchery, we just need to do one Watcher is going to be just us going through looks we've worn on Drag Race. Well, I mean, I have a million at this point. You have, what, 10? No, you have, like, 13. Or we're going to toot and boot everyone's look. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Drop that fucking. That damn galaxy. The poof. You know, I love the pouf. I literally wore it last year on tour.
Bob the Drag Queen
That'll make it good. That does not make it good. I don't care if you wore. I don't care if you wore. This morning on Good Morning America. It's not a good wig. We're not going to call the poof. The poof is literally a ponytail. It is a draw is great.
Monet X Change
You are such a hater. The poof is a. I love the poof. And also, I don't care what you think. I love the poof. That's why I literally wore it on tour.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's. That's your new guy name is Ewan.
Monet X Change
You and you alone.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is garbage. This wig is shit. So, you know you're going to defend this wig, too.
Monet X Change
Okay, Let me tell you this,
Bob the Drag Queen
Jay. Use these features. I'm screaming. I'm screaming.
Monet X Change
Okay,
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, your memory got real short, real quick, didn't it? Real short, real quick.
Monet X Change
Fucking domino
Bob the Drag Queen
this. You the one said, all my wigs, honey. Bad wigs. Where.
Monet X Change
Okay, I will say this is the only exception to the rule. This is the only exception to that rule. I said earlier this was a bad wig.
Bob the Drag Queen
All right, let's keep moving on. So. Okay, I think that Sweet Pea and Chanel look good. Um, and they match each other. Also. My whole thought process is like, this is before people anyone knew. Like, did they know there was gonna be a makeover challenge? Like, is this outfit from Chanel's closet? Did they like, what's going on here?
Monet X Change
Yeah, I think this. I think this had to be. Yeah, I don't know. You're right. Like, Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe they told them that they would have to. Like, how they tell us now, because if you guys don't know how it works now, I mean, from season. Season 10, we didn't bring outfits for our. Wait, what was season 10? Yeah, season 10, they did not tell us to bring two outfits. But All Stars 4, we knew that it would be a makeover thing. So that's why I brought something for a small person from something for a bigger person. So I can't speak for him before All Stars 4, but for season 10, we did not know that we should
Bob the Drag Queen
bring something for All Stars. Or did you just, like, do it on your own of your own volition?
Monet X Change
They. I. Yeah, you're right. I don't know. I think. I think I just did it on my own. I think. Actually, I think you might be right.
Bob the Drag Queen
Cause I didn't, because I. Cause we. Part of our challenge was that we had to make our drag kids costumes so on. So for ours, it was a design challenge. So we Made our costumes. And we made their costumes.
Monet X Change
That's crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
They're in the studio.
Monet X Change
Yeah. Season 10. I made Tyler's or I made my reveal. That's what I did. I made the top piece and the bottom piece for my season 10 1. And I cut his into. And I made his into. Yeah, I made his into a leotard.
Bob the Drag Queen
There's a great clip of Tyler sitting next to Lady Gaga while she does her 100 people in a room speech. It's kind of hilarious, actually.
Monet X Change
I hate this hair, but the outfit is nice.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let's go on to Nina Flowers. I love the way Nina Flowers looks. She looks so good to me. Her drag child looks amazing. They both look really good. They match. They go together. This is sickening. This is so sickening. To me.
Monet X Change
Her dragon looks like. Because she's so tall. She looks like a fucking supermodel.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, like a 90s supermodel, specifically.
Monet X Change
Yeah, for sure.
Bob the Drag Queen
Where they were wearing insane makeup because
Monet X Change
how pale Nina looks. Nina just always kind of looks to me like she's like a vampire. Like she's like a thousand year old vampire that looks 12.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, this look is particularly vampiric with the, with the collar, you know what I mean? And, and the weird sleeve thing. But this look is so good. And I, I think, honestly, the judges were on some with these critiques. These critiques were such. And I'll get to those in a second.
Monet X Change
They always are. The makeover challenge, this, the makeover challenge, the critiques are always fun. It, it, it just never. They can say whatever they want. I didn't like how, how much you guys looked alike and then someone else. You guys look too much alike. It's like, bitch, which one is it?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, let's go on to Angina and. And her athlete. So, you know, Angina doesn't wear a ton of makeup herself. Angina is not beat for the gods. Angina is kind of relying on her natural beauty that she has. So there isn't a big resemblance between her and her, her, her athlete. But also the thing is, a big part of Anjana's aesthetic is the fascinator and the bald head. And obviously this girl wasn't going to go bald.
Monet X Change
You know, Andrea should have put a, should have put a bald cap on her.
Bob the Drag Queen
And Tonna probably didn't know that she was. That they were going to be doing this. That's. That's the thing. How do we even know? How do you know? I was up in the. I was up there asking for stuff. Can y' all get Me a. Can y' all get me a. Can someone go get me a. You know what I mean?
Monet X Change
Yeah, Yeah. I mean, I guess her person was a good. Patty shaved his eyebrows off for me. Patty shaved his eyebrows for me. It goes back here.
Bob the Drag Queen
Now let's go on to Rebecca and Temple. So, Rebecca, these wigs are low key. Killing me.
Monet X Change
I kind of live, though. I gotta live. They're so plastic and synthetic. Like, I live. I low key live.
Bob the Drag Queen
Rebecca look. I mean, Temple looks like a early 2000s bad bitch. I ain't going to lie. Temple looks like a early 2000s bad bitch. For sure, right?
Monet X Change
Yeah. Oh, absolutely. For sure. I think she looks great.
Bob the Drag Queen
She's really stunning.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I think her braids. Her braids are kind of giving volume under the wig, which I'm kind of living for.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I. She. She had more volume than Rebecca. I think that.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think it's her braids underneath.
Monet X Change
I think that Rebecca ate this. I think that she really transformed her person. And they really do look like. They look like. Like mother daughter. They look like drag twins. I think Rebecca did nail this. I think my favorites were Rebecca and Nina, and I would have given it to Rebecca. I think that Rebecca deserved to win.
Bob the Drag Queen
But we do need to have a conversation about how boring these outfits are on Rebecca and Temple. We. We. I think out of every single contestant, these are the most boring. They are both wearing little black dresses. I'm lowkey screaming obds.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I would agree with that.
Bob the Drag Queen
So the judges. One of the things the judge. The judge kept saying was this. This whole you wearing too much makeup critique is so weird and so out of place on RuPaul's Drag Race.
Monet X Change
I don't want to hear no BB
Bob the Drag Queen
yeah, and they've been saying the whole thing. Someone said it a couple episodes ago about angina. You don't need so much makeup. Shut the up. This is a drag show. Who the fuck are you and what are. Who are you and what are those? Like, what's going on here?
Monet X Change
Yeah, it is weird. I agree. I would agree. I would agree. I would agree. But they gotta find some. Something to say. They gotta find some critique to warrant while you go home. I get eliminated. So I get it.
Bob the Drag Queen
They seemed annoyed that Nina's drag daughter looked like a dragon. And I was like, what? Excuse me. You're mad because Nina Flowers, drag kid, looks like a drag queen. Be for real. Like, I can't even. Like, what is this critique? What is that even?
Monet X Change
Also, I don't think I've ever expressed this on podcast. Or whatever. I am obsessed with Lucy Lawless. I fucking love Lucy Lawless. When I found out she was the guest judge, I was gaga. I love Lucy Lawless so much because Xena. I grew up on Xena. I used to watch Xena. I've seen every episode of Xena, like 10 times.
Bob the Drag Queen
I love Lina Lawless.
Monet X Change
Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know. You're such a. Can you do the war cry?
Monet X Change
I can.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you think people ask Lucy Lawless to do that a lot?
Monet X Change
I'm sure, girl. She's probably sick of it. Of course they do.
Bob the Drag Queen
Isn't it I, I, I, I? Or is it I? Isn't it I, I?
Monet X Change
It's I. But I can't do it. I can't. I need the L. I need the L to make so I can pitch up there. It's because it's too high.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know she's from New Zealand, Mike.
Monet X Change
I know she's. She's from New Zealand. She's a kiwi. And you know, her counterpart, Kevin Sorbo, who played Hercules, is like a fucking disgusting. Disgusting. Like Trumper. Like Trump to the core.
Bob the Drag Queen
Really?
Monet X Change
Yes. Disgusting.
Bob the Drag Queen
Had no clue. Had no clue.
Monet X Change
Did you watch Xena?
Bob the Drag Queen
No. Did not watch Xena. I watched. I watched one episode of Conan the Barbarian because it had Grace Jones on it.
Monet X Change
I need them.
Bob the Drag Queen
They need. Like.
Monet X Change
How have they not done a reboot of Xena? Come on. Well, bitch, we ain't rebooting nothing anytime soon. But when Haunted gets back, would it be. Ooh. It would have to be someone new. A fresh face. I can't think of anyone right now that could do it. Could you?
Bob the Drag Queen
You think so?
Monet X Change
A fresh face. Fresh face.
Bob the Drag Queen
Also, it was Conan the Destroyer. Not Conan the Barbarian, but Conan the Destroyer. Grace Jones played this amazing character that I was obsessed with. Michelle.
Monet X Change
I don't know what Conan the Destroyer even is. I don't know what that even is.
Bob the Drag Queen
I love Grace Jones in this show so much.
Monet X Change
Grace Jones. Oh, my God. Beyonce's birthday show last night. I'm so jealous. I was gonna go, but I had no one to. I was gonna like, pony up and get like front, front front row seats, but I had no one to go with. And it was just so last minute. But yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Cause I saw where you were sitting. You seemed. Seemed like you weren't very close. Did you bring your binoculars to watch?
Monet X Change
A friend got me tickets and I was very happy to go with my friends and it was very nice. I had a great time.
Bob the Drag Queen
Did you bring binoculars?
Monet X Change
You're such a bitch. You're Such a bitch.
Bob the Drag Queen
Could you even. Did it look like a bunch of Legos on stage?
Monet X Change
I was not. First of all, I was literally on the floor.
Bob the Drag Queen
Were you? Were you? I could have gently tossed Beyond. If Beyonce would have asked me to, I could have gently tossed her a bottle of water, like.
Monet X Change
You would not.
Bob the Drag Queen
You could not.
Monet X Change
Gently. You don't have to chuck that. Stop it.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I'm telling you, Money. I could have literally gently tossed Beyonce a bottle of water. I don't think you could have cleared that much space. You would have had to.
Monet X Change
Sit your back. Sit your blue eyes.
Bob the Drag Queen
I could have been. I could have been like, hold on, hold on.
Monet X Change
Well, it was the concert. I had a good time. Anyway, Anyway. So we find out that Rebecca is the winner of this challenge. Rebecca finally wins something
Bob the Drag Queen
here. Rebecca has won the challenge, and of course, Chanel feels like she should have won the challenge. Obviously. That is. That. That's. That's clear. Um, Bebe and Anjana are both in the bottom. And during the lip sync, Bibi Zahara Benet starts to lose her wig. We have the first ever queen falling apart during a lip sync in the history of Drag Race.
Monet X Change
But it's the first. It's something weird to me about saying the first ever, like, was the first season.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, but some things didn't happen in the first season. You know, Bob, you cannot eat on the podcast.
Monet X Change
You cannot eat on the. And then here's what this thing. This nigga put some checks in his mouth, then wait to talk, then be like, wait, hold on, hold on, Monet. Yeah, because at least when I would eat, I would, like. I would. I would. I would ask a question that as you're entering, I'll be like, no, this
Bob the Drag Queen
is how you eat this. This is Monet. This is Monet. One time. Okay, can I tell the story?
Monet X Change
What?
Bob the Drag Queen
I'll tell it. One time, I was doing. With this drag queen, and during the interview, it was like. Like, it was like some, like, news outlet during the interview. That was like, 15 minutes, 10 minutes. Like, we're all on, like, zoom, right? And, like, during the interview, you just
Monet X Change
see this one going, is Bob frozen or am I frozen?
Bob the Drag Queen
And she keeps doing that. Every, like, 30 seconds, she's like. With a fork.
Monet X Change
Like, a fork.
Bob the Drag Queen
She's eating.
Monet X Change
She had a fork, and she's like, oh, her. Got it.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I was like, bitch, stop eating during this. It was like. It was like Good Morning America or something. She's. It was. It was the. Cause you could still see the fork, but she'd cover the Food and be like.
Monet X Change
But like.
Bob the Drag Queen
But act like she wasn't eating. It was so wild. I was like, this is crazy.
Monet X Change
I live.
Bob the Drag Queen
Anyway, so, yeah, Bibi's falling apart. She rips her wig off, and she. RuPaul is so torn up about this. RuPaul cannot even gather herself to finish filming the episode.
Monet X Change
Basically, I know she had to excuse us. She's like, this decision is too hard. I'm gonna have to excuse myself. And as she walks away, they go through talking. So this has. Rebecca has won. This has nothing to do with Rebecca. Rebecca is backstage celebrating. She's like, ooh, I won. Chanel is excused. Nina's excused, right? So then Ru excuses herself to make the decision. And then it cut. And as he walks away, it cuts to Chanel being like, I think RuPaul made a really bad decision letting Rebecca stay.
Bob the Drag Queen
She does not like this bitch.
Monet X Change
It has nothing to do with Rebecca. And she says, I think RuPaul made a really bad decision letting Rebecca stay.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I was like, what the fuck? Leave this girl alone. You know? Girl, that was wild. RuPaul comes back, and she says to Angina, you know, I thought you were going to go all the way.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
And then she sends Angina home and tells BB to. To stay. And. And Anana is sent packing. And we are now down to what, Four girls.
Monet X Change
Four girls. Top four.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my God. Not the top four. I did what?
Monet X Change
I did a gig at Heart. I did Moist for Godoy and Sadie's birthday. I did a gig, and Angina was there. And I was like, oh, yeah, Bob and I are doing season one. She's like, okay, well, episode five is coming up. If you want me to be a guest, let me know. And I was like, why? We want you to be a guest on episode five. And I found out why when I watched this episode yesterday.
Bob the Drag Queen
Why didn't we take her up on the offer?
Monet X Change
Because it was. Because I don't know why we didn't do it. Actually.
Bob the Drag Queen
I didn't even know the offer was available. This is shame.
Monet X Change
We can have her next week. We can still have her next week.
Bob the Drag Queen
Not Monet. Gatekeeping the guests. Damn, you're gatekeeping the guest. If you're watching and you were had. Did not know. Had already had known. Who do you think would win right now?
Monet X Change
Like, the season or this episode?
Bob the Drag Queen
Say again?
Monet X Change
You saying who I think. Who do I think should have won this episode or this is going to win this season? I would say Rebecca Glasscock.
Bob the Drag Queen
For me, right now, it's between Nina and Bebe. Zahara Bonet for sure. They are just to me in a different category than the other girls. Chanel is in a great category but her self sabotaging and I know that's a buzzword in drag Race but like she is trying to take herself down basically. She's like not letting herself have a moment's rest, you know.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I agree. But Chanel is probably one is my favorite part of the season I think. She's so funny and her talking heads are great.
Bob the Drag Queen
So good.
Monet X Change
She'll be my fan favorite for sure.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you know, do you know how the rest of the season plays out? I mean I know you know who wins, but do you know how the rest of it plays out?
Monet X Change
No, I have and I know nothing. I don't know anything work.
Bob the Drag Queen
All right, well we will see you all next week when we review episode six. Bye everyone. Bye.
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Monet X Change
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Monet X Change
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Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
Original Release Date: September 13, 2023
Episode Focus: In this episode of Sibling Watchery, Bob and Monét recap and dissect Season 1, Episode 5 of RuPaul's Drag Race, “Drag School of Charm.” Their signature mix of humor, shade, nostalgia, and cultural commentary drives a lively review, featuring notable quotes, behind-the-scenes anecdotes, and candid observations about the queens and the evolution of drag reality TV.
The duo reviews the season's first-ever makeover challenge, reminisces about the cast and climate of Drag Race Season 1, and dives into the infamous “Rebecca Glasscock Hate Train.” The conversation is packed with laughs, friendly bickering, fitness showdowns, and reflections on how TV shapes queer and drag culture.
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“It really just feels like…the Assassination of Rebecca Glasscock.” — Monét [06:12]
“Facebook groups were often used to bully people…‘Kevin Caldwell is a piece of shit.’” — Bob [06:51]
“It is so interesting, so funny to see these faggots try to be physical.” — Monét [11:24]
“You will do what I want you to do.” — Bebe (quoted by Bob) [28:20]
“This is before RuPaul got that Ozempic, honey. This is back…” — Bob [39:25]
“We need to have a conversation about how boring these outfits are on Rebecca and Temple.” — Bob [51:59]
“Every wig I’ve worn on Drag Race has been great…” — Monét
“That’s you. The fans will be the judge.” — Bob [44:01]
“I fucking love Lucy Lawless…I’ve seen every episode of Xena like, ten times.” — Monét [53:17]
“You’re mad because Nina Flowers’ drag kid looks like a drag queen? Be for real.” — Bob [52:57]
Sibling Watchery continues to be not just a recap of Drag Race, but a hilarious, authentic commentary on queer culture, nostalgia, competition, and friendship—served with a double helping of shade.
This summary skips advertisements, show intros, and non-content tangents for clarity and flow.