Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race S1E8 "Grand Finale" Review

Summary

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Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race S1E8 "Grand Finale" Review

Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
Date: September 27, 2023
Episode Theme:
A hilarious, insightful recap of the first-ever RuPaul’s Drag Race grand finale (Season 1, Episode 8), with Bob and Monét reflecting on the show’s beginnings, the growth of drag pageantry, and what made the season and its winner, Bebe Zahara Benet, iconic. The episode is packed with personal anecdotes, sharp observations on drag, heated debates, and playful banter.

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Main Discussion Points and Insights

Setting the Scene: Drag and Merch Talk

• The episode kicks off with the duo dressed up for the occasion—Bob in a suit “to dress for success” following RuPaul’s legendary advice, and Monét promoting her newly released pajama merch (01:13-02:33).
• Bob jokes about RuPaul's supposed masterclass wisdom:

  “You want to make money? Wear a suit.” (02:43, Bob)

• Monét teases Bob about setting up podcast guests surrounded by her collection of shoes (04:03).

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Early Season 1 Nostalgia & Behind-the-Scenes Gags

• The hosts reminisce about the pared-down nature of early Drag Race finals, including Merle and Santino entering the workroom instead of RuPaul.
• Monét vividly recalls a chance encounter with Santino Rice scooping vegan ice cream after his Drag Race exit (05:14-05:50).

  “He was just scooping ice cream at this ice cream shop. It was so wild.” (05:46, Monét)

• A tangent on vegan ice cream sparks recollection of the duo’s infamous real-life fight about veganism, which was “way worse” than their staged podcast arguments (06:30-07:14).

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The Final Challenge: Music Video and Verse Writing

• Bob points out Season 1’s uniqueness: it was the first time queens wrote their own verse for a RuPaul music video—an innovation that would become a franchise mainstay (08:03).

  “This is the original write your own verse challenge this season.” (08:03, Bob)

• Monét prefers writing verses as a display of artistry over just looking pretty in a video (08:23).
• They dissect Bebe’s self-reflection on being “from a different cultural background” and comment on the awkwardness of her comparing being Cameroonian to her competition’s Puerto Rican heritage (09:09-09:27).

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Judges & Choreographers: Retrospective Shout-Outs

• Choreographer Ryan Heffington’s surprise cameo: Bob googles him mid-podcast and is floored by his impressive resume (10:21-11:44).

  “This motherfucker is in some moo…He does a lot of work with Sia.” (11:09, Bob)

• Conversation about guest judges’ sometimes confusing feedback—Monét jokes about being told to make just “some sections” of choreography perfect (12:07).
• Bob explains sometimes, like in Chicago’s “Hot Honey Rag,” certain scenes demand strict synchronicity (12:44-13:24).

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Iconic Finale Moments: Tic Tac Dinners, Verses, and Wig Fails

• The hosts recall the original, now-outdated, staging of the “Tic Tac” dinners, bouncing between emotional interviews and songwriting sessions.
• They highlight the comedic genius of Rebecca Glasscock’s clunky verse with Caswell:

  “Uh huh bass honey glasscock for your nerves, mama!” (15:16, Bob, quoting Rebecca)

• Caswell’s ruthless critique stands out:

  “Okay, you have four bars of nothing.” (18:34, Bob, quoting Caswell)

• They drag Rebecca for being late to the music video shoot and wearing a basic dress for the finale (20:23-33:41).

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Runway Reviews and Finale Pageantry

RuPaul’s Iconic Look

• Bob is obsessed with RuPaul’s “lace afro” and describes it as his favorite Ru look ever, comparing it to her AJ and the Queen costume (29:19-29:48).

Contestant Critiques

• Nina Flowers: Praised for the side-seam train in her finale dress—Monét muses if Nina invented the look (30:00-30:34).
• Rebecca Glasscock: Both hosts drag Rebecca for her lackluster and possible “out of options” gown (32:36-33:41).

  “She don’t love herself.” (32:46, Monét)

• Bebe Zahara Benet: Both agree Bebe looked “incredible” and her hair was so iconic that Bob tried repeatedly (and failed) to recreate it (34:58-35:31).

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The Final Lip Sync and Winner Reveal

• Both reminisce about the famous lip sync moment, especially Bebe’s choreography and dramatic use of Nina’s train (37:40-38:16).
• Discussion on the practicality of lip syncing and being crowned in full drag gowns: it looks great for the crowning but is awful for performing (38:02-38:27).

Memorable “Real” Winner Reaction

• Bob notes how viewers saw Bebe’s real winning moment on camera, in contrast to later seasons (where winners react privately), and recalls Monét and Trinity’s “confused” expressions as double winners (39:40-39:51).
• Monét candidly shares she likely wouldn’t have cried even if she’d won alone:

  “Literally the shit underneath my toe.” (40:36, Monét, joking about Drag Race)

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The Prizes & What They’re Really Worth

• Discussion of winner’s spoils—a $10k check, $5k in MAC makeup, diamond jewelry, and an eyewear contract. The hosts joke about the true value of diamonds, riffing on the arbitrary price of luxury (41:02-43:58).

  “They’re just rocks that we just said are expensive.” (41:51, Monét)

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Art, Value, and Culture

• The conversation veers into art world parallels: how both art and diamonds are worth what tastemakers say they are, not based on rarity or technical skill (43:58-45:13).
• Bob quizzes everyone on the world’s most famous paintings—Mona Lisa, Starry Night, Girl with a Pearl Earring (45:02-45:44).

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Finale Reflections and Predictions

• Monét is effusive about Season 1’s quality and impact:

  “It is clear why this show is such a success and a phenomenon, because this first season was dope as fuck.” (50:07, Monét)

• The hosts speculate on RuPaul’s potential Drag Race retirement:
  • Monét bets Ru will host at least until Season 20 (51:22-51:27).
  • Bob teases having “inside information” but won’t share (51:59-52:08).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Rebecca’s Verse:

  “Uh huh bass honey glasscock for your nerves, mama!” (15:16, Bob quoting Rebecca)

• Caswell’s Brutality:

  “Okay, you have four bars of nothing.” (18:34, Caswell, recounted by Bob)

• Bebe Emotion:

  “She’s like. She’s like. She’s like crying. She’s like bent over crying. And Ru is just staying demure, like RuPaul be doing.” (16:25, Monét)

• On the value of Drag Race:

  “Literally the shit underneath my toe.” (40:36, Monét, tongue-in-cheek)

• Final Winner Call:

  “The winner of Drag Race is Bebe Zahara Benet. And do you think she deserved to win?” (39:31-39:40, Bob)
  “I think Bebe did a great job, if I’m being honest. I think she deserved to win.” (39:40, Monét)

• On early Drag Race spectacle:

  “It is this perfect storm of queerness and femininity.” (50:21, Monét)

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• Podcast Opens / Fashion Banter: 01:13–03:19
• Drag Race S1 Judging Dynamics: 04:52–05:14
• Vegan Ice Cream & Bob/Monét Vegan Fights: 05:47–07:14
• Writing Verses vs. Just Performing: 08:03–08:23
• Choreographer Ryan Heffington Recognition: 10:21–11:44
• Rebecca Glasscock’s Verse & Caswell’s Feedback: 15:13–18:58
• Music Video Run-Through / Late Queen Drama: 20:12–23:17
• Runway & Finale Look Reviews: 29:19–35:31
• Bebe’s Crowning & Reaction: 37:40–40:09
• Prizes and Diamonds Value Riff: 41:02–43:58
• Season 1 Impact Reflections: 50:07–50:36
• Speculation on RuPaul’s Retirement: 51:22–52:08

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Tone and Style

True to Bob and Monét’s signature style, the episode is packed with smart, fast-paced banter, candid personal anecdotes, playful roasts, and queer cultural analysis. They seamlessly pivot from joke to insight, never missing a chance to poke fun at each other or the quirks of early Drag Race (and their own Drag Race journeys).

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Summary Verdict

For Drag Race historians and new fans alike, this episode perfectly captures the rough-around-the-edges magic that made Season 1 legendary—insightful, hilarious, and rich with both critique and celebration. Bob and Monét’s takeaways are clear: Bebe’s win holds up, the finale is full of iconic, memeable moments, and Drag Race’s cultural legacy was clear from its debut.

Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

Hello. Oh, you're dressed. Oh, the girls are dressed up for the finale.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

Guys, the new merch is out. Make sure you go to my website to get my new little pajama set. It's very cute, and we say pajamas, but I wear this to the airport. Bitch. She's setting a hole. This very sexy and cute and lovely. Hello.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is your. Is, like, your name on it or something?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that's my. It's my. Right here. MXC. MXC. MXC.MXC.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

got it. Got it.

[Monet X Change]

Very MCM.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's MCM?

[Monet X Change]

It's a brand.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh. Do you wear them?

[Monet X Change]

I have a bag I think someone gifted me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you like the bag? Hey, Bob, do you like the bag?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I do like the bag. I do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nice.

[Monet X Change]

My other friend gave me these coach bags, but these are way better.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Interesting.

[Monet X Change]

That's interesting. Why are you dressed, though? What are you wearing? Why are you wearing a suit?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I just felt like dressing nicely for work. Some people like to dress for success one day. How about that? Okay.

[Monet X Change]

Is this what you wore to the thing last night?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, this is what I wore just for this podcast. This is the only reason I'm wearing this is because of this podcast. There's no other reason.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I'm at work and I want to bring my best foot forward. You want to make money, wear a suit. Do you want to make money, wear a suit?

[Monet X Change]

Is that what they say?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You never heard RuPaul say that before?

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

RuPaul in his masterclass always goes, you want to make money, Wear a suit?

[Monet X Change]

Lock on you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Lock on you. And I would say he does wear suits, and he does make money. I mean, I can't argue with that.

[Monet X Change]

You cannot argue with that logic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can't argue with the results. I don't know that he's making money because of the suits, but I do know that he does wear suits and he makes money.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know that. That the causation equal. You know, that's necessarily the cause and effect, but we know that one and

[Monet X Change]

then the other one. Do you think that Bibi. Do you think that that's why Bibi won $10,000 because she wore a suit one time?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure Bibi's worn a suit at some point in her life. And we have well documented proof that Rebecca and Nina have literally never worn suits or even seen suits. The first time they saw a suit was when RuPaul wore one, and they were like, what is going on? And RuPaul was like, you're not going to win this fucking award. You're not winning. You're done. You're done. Well, ladies and gentlemen, this might be one of my last podcasts in this room. I hate this room. I need you all to know that sitting down in front, like, I. At home, I have this, like, great setup with, like, nice lights and, like, microphones.

[Monet X Change]

Do you have a setup?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me tell you. Y' all notice that when we have guests, they go to my house and film, not Monet's, because I have a. Yeah, once you set up. Yeah, Monet's gonna have them sitting in front of a bunch of shoes. Yeah, drag her, Jacob. Drag this bitch. You'll have them sitting in front of your shoes.

[Monet X Change]

Beautiful shoes. Shoes that you could never afford.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Beautiful shoes. Big ass shoes. Y' all don't realize Monet trying to trick y' all by putting them away in the back. Bitch, we know how big them shoes is. Go grab one. Put it next to your head. Yeah, yeah. So I will be hopefully out of this. It just. It looks. Why are hotels, like, brown and orange, like, so often?

[Monet X Change]

I mean, tell us. Can you tell us the name and the address? Maybe we can look up. Why?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bitch, what?

[Monet X Change]

You asked us a question. You want to help me answer?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Merle Ginsburg and Santino Rice into the workroom and not RuPaul. And the girls are gagged. And I just realized that they have never seen the girls out of drag.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I mean, we think so. I mean, it was so pared down back then. Maybe they have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what they said.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, did they?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They were like. I never would have noticed.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or recognized you.

[Monet X Change]

Can I tell you, years ago, when I first got on Drag Race, like, after season 10, we were in LA doing something, and myself and two other friends were walking downtown, and I walked past Santino's ice cream shop. Cause, y' all know, so after Santino. Yeah, after Santino left Drag Race, so he kind of, like, left the industry altogether. He started working, like, a vegan ice cream shop. And I just randomly was walking past this ice cream shop, and we go in, and I'm like, I didn't say anything. Cause obviously he doesn't watch the show. He doesn't know who I was. But I was like, oh, my God, that's Santino. He was just scooping ice cream at this ice cream shop. It was so wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Does he own the ice cream shop or does he work there?

[Monet X Change]

I don't know. I don't know. But I know it's a vegan ice cream shop, and Santino Rice was in there scooping up some ice cream.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you buy some?

[Monet X Change]

I did not. This was back then when vegan. Well, I'm not saying it was new to everyone. To me, the concept of vegan ice cream was new. I'm like, I don't know. Damn vegan ice cream. Now I've had vegan ice cream. It's actually pretty. Pretty on par with regular ice cream. But back then, I was like, I want a damn vegan ice cream.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ew. I guess it's not that it wasn't that new to me because I was in the world of veganism and vegan. I had a vegan roommate when I was in, like, 2010. So I was like, in these vegan ice cream streets, honey. In these vegan ice cream streets.

[Monet X Change]

Also, the iconic civil rivalry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Shout out to Tofutti. Shout out to Tofoodi.

[Monet X Change]

The iconic Bob and Monet fight about veganism, which was so much on the podcast, it was way better than the one in real life. Bob and I got, like, mad, mad. Like, we didn't talk for, like, a day,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

and I stand my ground.

[Monet X Change]

So we did one on the podcast that was funny and it was cute, but, like, maybe, like, or like a year before that or whatever, we had, like, a Real fight in life, like, in real life about veganism. For, like, two hours, y', all, we

[Bob the Drag Queen]

were going back and forth because you were being wild. You were being wild.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, so every time. It's always. It's never you. It's always me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't say every time. I said that time.

[Monet X Change]

It was you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You were being. I remember being like, this bitch is really trying something.

[Monet X Change]

That shit was so funny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet has changed her arguing style. But back then, she used to. Monet would go straight to. So since everyone's so horrible, since we're all just murderers and just animal killing, I'm like, I didn't say that. It's not what I said. That's not what I said. Since we're all just out here just murdering and killing animals. Didn't say that. I didn't say that. So, anyway, basically, Santino and Merle tell them they're gonna be doing a music video with RuPaul, which. This is the only season, I think, that did a music video and wrote a verse.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, is that what happened? Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is the original write your own verse challenge this season. Right?

[Monet X Change]

I'm trying to think in season two. Yeah, season two. Cause they were just in the video. They didn't write and were in the video. Yeah, true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You've written a few verses. Would you rather write a verse or be in a music video with RuPaul?

[Monet X Change]

You know, I think that, as a final challenge, writing a verse shows more of your artistry, and I would like to do that. Being in a video. You can just be pretty. Like, everyone knows I can do that. That's easy. But do they know I can write a verse? And I think I proved that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone knows. Let's go.

[Monet X Change]

Also, I wrote at the top of this, Vivi goes. She's going. She's like, do they. The camera cuts to Nina. She's like, do they want someone that's just a boy? And then she goes to the record. Do they want someone that's just not ready, or do they want someone who's an international fierce diva, but just. They don't want someone that's a boy. I'm like, she's not a boy. She's just androgynous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did she say a boy?

[Monet X Change]

She's still a boy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I was really wild when she was like, someone who is from a different cultural background. I don't know if by that she meant that the other two are both Puerto Rican. Is that what she meant?

[Monet X Change]

I don't know. Or she's like someone who's so exotic because she's from Cameroon. You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, but they're from Puerto Rico. I know. They are from a Commonwealth. You know, it was very. It was very. It was very interesting. I was like. I was like. She acted like she up against two from Michigan.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So the music video.

[Monet X Change]

Go ahead.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll go.

[Monet X Change]

I'm gonna say the music video is going to be directed by Mike Ruiz because it's kind of like a full circle, because the first challenge was photograph

[Bob the Drag Queen]

a clap slate, which is why we're all. We're so off. Like, Monae, you clap, you count. So you can see how far apart we are.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. 1, 2, 3, Clap. Next week.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's how I felt. So. Okay. So anyway, so I was really intrigued by this. So Mike Ruiz is going to be directing the music video. Who did their photo shoot at the beginning? Jacob's old boss, who. Who, by the way, came in with some hot takes during the video. I was like, micro Wes is acting wild right now and saying some wild stuff, but then this guy named Ryan Heffington comes in, and I was like, let me Google Ryan Heffington and see what Ryan Heffington's up to. Ryan Heffington has a very impressive resume. Ryan Heffington was a choreographer at the Oscars in 2023. He did Florence and the Machine, Heaven is Here. He does a choreographer on Euphoria, Choreographed Tick, Tick Boom. Sia's movie music, Birds of Prey, transparent pose. Like, the list literally goes on and on. Like, this motherfucker is in some moo. He does a lot of work with Sia. Like, a lot of Sia work. Several Sia. Big girls Cry. He did a lot of cheap thrills.

[Monet X Change]

Big Girls Cry also is my favorite.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Big girl, bigger cry. But, yeah, anyway, I was gagged. I was like, this thing has done a lot of stuff.

[Monet X Change]

Good for him. I mean, he. I think he looks familiar because of Drag Race, but that's all I know him from. I don't. I don't know him from that other stuff, but work. That's fierce.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Anyway, shout out to Ryan Heffington. I hope. I hope you're doing well. Nothing. I mean, I was.

[Monet X Change]

The season of Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. Maybe I didn't.

[Monet X Change]

I didn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, you're probably right, but I was just really. I was really gagged. His resume is just very, very impressive. I was, like, screaming, yeah, I live.

[Monet X Change]

I love when he's choreographing Them. And he goes. He says, there are some sections where it needs to be perfect and you guys need to be perfect. I'm like, don't they all need to be perfect? To me, I feel like that was such a strange note to give them. There are some sections that need to be really good. I'm like, they should all be that good. Ryan Effington.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I mean. Well, I don't think I share this. I'm not a perfectionist. I don't think that. I don't think everything needs to be perfect. So, I mean, are you a perfectionist?

[Monet X Change]

I wouldn't say I'm a perfectionist, but I do. No, I wouldn't say I'm a perfectionist.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So maybe he meant, like, for example, in the musical Chicago, there is the Hot Honey Rag. The whole point of it, that it literally has to be in perfect time. That's part of the whole gag, is that these two women are moving perfectly in time. But other times, you can still have your own little flavor and go in your own way. And if some dealer's choice, if you want to go up or you want to go down, you want to do this. Maybe that's what he meant. I don't know. I'm all just, damn, child abuse. Child abuse. Don't ever touch my niece like that. Hey. Hey. Don't ever touch my niece like that ever again. Colleen, come back.

[Monet X Change]

It does not work. They're rehearsing, and Bibi will perform barefoot. Bibi loves being barefoot. Every time I see Bibi perform, she has. She has her shoes on when y' all did. When I see her at Minneapolis, she is. No, no, she had no shoes on both times.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't notice that.

[Monet X Change]

She better work. Yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm obsessed. So they go in their tic Tac dance with RuPaul. RuPaul is in full geesh, honey. Full geeshe for these tic tac dinners, which I don't know if, you know, they've, re, like, branded how they do their TikTok dinners.

[Monet X Change]

I know. I thought it was really funny before, but I think because of, you know, to be sensitive, they stopped that. But I used to think. I've always thought the TikTok thing is so funny, all, like, the little jokes and puns he makes. I think that's hilarious.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I'm sure you can see why they stopped.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And so what I'm intrigued by is, like, in this. In this version of RuPaul's Drag Race, they are doing. They are showing I don't know if they still do this. They're showing the Tic Tac dinners and the writing challenges, like, simultaneously. So they're bouncing back and forth between them all, which is interesting. And, you know, Nina Flowers sits down with Ruid. It's not terribly eventful, but what is eventful is Rebecca Glasscock's verse session with Caswell. She goes, let me tell you something, girl, from a voice from experience. You got to fix that walk if you want to be fierce. I know a simple, unfixed way to better it all. You got to put some bass into that walk. And then she goes, uh huh bass honey glasscock for your nerves, mama. I am obsessed way more than the word she wrote. I love her going, uh huh bass honey glasscock for your nerves, mama. Like, she wrote that. I'm screaming.

[Monet X Change]

You know, Rebecca Glass Clock clearly is not a rapstress. I think she was really trying to pull out her inner Fox Brown, Lil

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kim when Lemon called herself a rapist. By the way, I listen to Limbs album. It is very good. I'm gonna go ahead on her ep. I'm gonna go ahead and give Lemon that. She did a very good job. I was. I was very impressed.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway, I haven't listened yet, but the fans love Lemon's verse on Priyanka's song. Does it come through? No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Come through and then come, come through. And we're gonna come through.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is, it is. It is a wild verse. But this is kind of. It's on brand for Black for. For Rebecca in the season, though. It is on brand for the Glasscock, I would say.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. When she said. When she said, huh, bass honey glasscock for your nerves. I just could not stop screaming. I was just screaming. And then Bibi got pretty emotional during her dinner.

[Monet X Change]

She did, she did. Talking about, you know, Cameroon and the lack of support in her country. I'm supporting resources. It was. Yeah, she's like. She's like. She's like crying. She's like bent over crying. And Ru is just staying demure like RuPaul be doing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And yeah, RuPaul cried. Every once in a while, RuPaul will get a little on camera, full on

[Monet X Change]

hug plastique and cried in the workroom. Remember that time? She's like, I'm your mother now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I remember when. And it really upset Ra' Jah when you are the one getting the hugs and all these things. Where was that? When I needed that? When I needed that. Well, I don't want to get you into that. And all of those things. I don't want to spend too much time talking about those things. Honestly, my Raja impresses pretty good.

[Monet X Change]

That's. That was a pretty good Raja. That was a pretty good Raja. I love Rajah o', Hara, by the way. She's such a. She's such a. I love her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can we please give a round of applause for our winner this week?

[Monet X Change]

And when Rebecca does hers with Ru, Ru kind of takes on inquisition. She's like, well, what have you done to make them treat you this way? Rebecca talked about she's had a hard time in the competition. And Rupe's like, well, what have you done to make them treat you this way?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's almost as if RuPaul has footage and knows everything they're doing, because even though she's not back there, she knows what's going on.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I mean? Very funny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now that was a. That was a very. She really came in hot with that take. RuPaul was like, so what's the real tea? Ms. Mama, Ms. Mamas. I also just love when Caswell, by the way, Caswell is on. I forgot that Caswell's on this season.

[Monet X Change]

I completely forgot that New York City rapper Caswell. Is Caswell from New York or he just lives here? He lived here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think Caswell's from Philly, I'm almost positive. And he lives in la.

[Monet X Change]

Well, he used to live in New York.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did well at this time, Caswell would

[Monet X Change]

live in New York.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone used to live in New York, right? I'm not sure when Caswell moved to LA personally, but Caswell, did you live in New York? That I know for sure. I love when Caswell said to Rebecca, okay, you have four bars of nothing. I don't know why that. I don't know why that sent me. Okay, you have four bars of nothing. I was like, damn, Caswell was stone cold. Stone cold.

[Monet X Change]

Because she's supposed to have eight. And I think because she wrote so much, she's like, oh, this is eight bars. But no, baby, it was only half the assignment.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, no. She had four bars that went, uh huh.

[Monet X Change]

No, no, no, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For your nerves.

[Monet X Change]

Oh,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

so check yourself, bitch. Don't ever come for the rapturous.

[Monet X Change]

So they finish with Kazmo, they finish their dinners, and then now it's time to get up in drags and do the challenge to come in. And Nina does hers. And Nina looks really good. I think that Nina is giving the realness with the fabric. She's throwing her chiffon. She's enjoying the wind. She's tossing her hair. And I think Nina looks like she's doing a good job.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I want to see.

[Monet X Change]

Did this video come. I should have looked it up. I want to watch the final video. Are they all in it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You never seen. We need to pause to watch this video. You have to watch CoverGirl. I can't believe you never seen this video.

[Monet X Change]

Well, let's. I'm gonna watch over here on my side so we don't have to like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, watch it on your side. We'll watch it on our own. And we're back the way.

[Monet X Change]

There are no close ups of Rebecca, but there are obviously a B because she won. And Nina has some moments. There are no moments. There are no camera closers of Rebecca. Also, she was performing like this a lot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was like. Well, to be fair, as we know, she was late for the shoot. Bebe and Nina did extra rounds of videoing because Rebecca was late. And this episode does not shine Rebecca in the brightest of lights. So I think there may have been some either animus or a lack of footage of Rebecca Glasscock to use. Also, did you notice that Lucien Peone is in this video?

[Monet X Change]

He is the. I was gonna say the gas station attendant. I was gonna say. Is that a drag king? That's Lucien.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's Lucien Peony.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I thought it was a drag king.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, girl, that is Lucian Peony, who

[Monet X Change]

wrote your arch nemesis.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not my arch nemesis who wrote a lot of music for RuPaul and was basically doing all the challenges before Leland. Now that. Now that. Now Leland does it. Before Leland, it was Lucian Peani.

[Monet X Change]

Lucian Peony.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Lucian Peony is not doing that anymore.

[Monet X Change]

The video is. I mean, it's of the time. It's not RuPaul's, you know, it's not Supermodel of the world kind of drag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Drag.

[Monet X Change]

Supermodel of the World is like an iconic music video. This one is good. Drag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

RuPaul.

[Monet X Change]

The realness is pretty cool too. Would you have gagged if you got to have a verse on the realness?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe I should just write a realness verse now. Maybe I should just. Still. Maybe it's still not too late to just re release a realness verse.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I mean? I just put solution for the footage.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Put your money down and place your bet and spin the wheel. Real is what you feel. Feelings aren't real.

[Monet X Change]

Come on, freestyle it off the top. 5, 6, 7, 8.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Too early.

[Monet X Change]

It's too early for you feeling what you're feeling. I'm feeling mighty real. My Face will look like Seal. I'm Amanda Seals. That's not chartreuse. Oh, bitch, is that teal?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We need to move on. I think it's time to move on. So here's some of Mike Ruiz's hot takes that. I was like, what is happening? He was like, so Mike Rudy was trying to give everyone a compliment. I just remember going, well, Rebecca Glasscock is the realest of them all. And I was like, not even my realness. I'm screaming. I am screaming. And I also love when Nina's whipping her braids around. He was like, spin those locks. Spin those dreads. Spin those dreads.

[Monet X Change]

The box braids.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I'm also really grateful for Rebecca for bringing the drama this episode because we needed some drama, and Rebecca brought the. The drama. You never rush a queen. This is fucking ridiculous.

[Monet X Change]

And also, walking out there, I just understand what. How she got caught up putting the wig on and just had in her boy hair at the front. And it was just. I was like, girl, it's just a shake and go. Just put it on your head. Like, what, What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

[Monet X Change]

What is there? You're not laying down a lace. Like, I was so confused as what her confusion was it putting the wig on. Like, it was her first time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I love it when she. Honestly, I will say this about her, though, when Rebecca. So Rebecca is obviously late because she's having problems with her wig. And by the way, we all know I've had a rough hair day one day where the wig just won't go on the way you want it to go on. And you just. You ever had a day where the wig just will not go on the way you want to go on? And then your friends yank your chair from underneath your seat and then you run it. Anyone? No, that's just me. Okay. Anyway, I've gone through that before, and. And I would say normally the wig does go on how you want to go on, but every once in a while, have you noticed that your nails just will not glue to your nails? It's like you're trying to glue them on with, like, water.

[Monet X Change]

Well, back when I used to use glue. Now using the gel tabs, I don't go through that anymore.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My life, I do the job. I do gel tabs, too now, but they're not. But they're not. It's not as strong as glue. I would say they're just not as strong as blue. Every once in a while, you just like picking up nails. Anyway, that's not the point. The point is what I was stating was that Rebecca Glascott goes away because she needs to get her shit together. When she comes back, the way that she seamlessly walked into the scene was very cunty. I was very impressed. I was like, hello, somebody.

[Monet X Change]

Shoot. It was fierce. It was fierce,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

and I love that. Bebe says, well, first of all. And once Rebecca starts doing her thing, Mike Ruiz is letting her have it. He is giving this drag queen fever. You're just, like, walking like this. It looks weird. Like, walk on the line, Rebecca. Look. Smile, Rebecca. You're, like, doing this, like, walk on the line, bitch. Walk on the fucking line. You dumb bitch. You late dumb bitch. With your hairline showing. And then it cuts to Bibi, and Bibi says, I wrote this down. I don't want to say, Rebecca, you're a. No, I do not want to say that.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think she's gonna be the. I think she's trying to dance as opposed to walking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just love the quote. I don't want to say, Rebecca, you are a. No, I do not want to say that. Well, then who's forcing you to say it?

[Monet X Change]

Micro ease, apparently.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you have any moments where, like, a guest judge was giving you, like, a lot of fever or, like, a really hard time?

[Monet X Change]

No, I've always been pretty well liked by the faculty of Drag Race. I've not experienced that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not teacher's pet. Damn. Teacher's pet. Ass bitch. Oh, teacher.

[Monet X Change]

Were you a teacher's pet in school?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I was getting in trouble for not even one.

[Monet X Change]

Not even drama teacher. You were, like, the drama kid.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I mean, I was a good. I was a good student. I was the president of the drama club. But I was. I was. I used to get in trouble for talking. I was. I was constantly getting in trouble for talking too much, and it always, like, never shutting up. And I was. I was never, like. I was never, like, you know who's so great and well behaved? Caldwell. It was always like, please stop talking. Please. I'm literally begging you to please stop talking. Please. I'm just trying to do my job. Can you please stop talking?

[Monet X Change]

That was me, too, and everything else, but in choir and chorus or the music, I was. I was. I wasn't a teacher's pet, but I was. I was very well liked in chorus.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My teachers liked me, but they just. I just. I talked to. I was never, like, a model student. I was never, like. I never had a teacher go, y' all should be more like Caldwell. That I've never had. Never. Not once have I told Have I had my teacher be like, everyone be like this rebellious ass kid who's trying to start a mutiny right here in class. So on the last day of school, they all come back and they are giving their government names. And I'm just so intrigued by the fact that RuPaul, that Bibi was like, my name is Nea Mashakuringua. And then Nina was like, my name is Jorge. She's like, what? Imagine. Imagine being like, my name is Neha Marsha Kuringua. And then someone else like, my name is Jorge. She's like, what? What the fuck is that name? The fuck is a Jorge?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I thought she was doing a bit, but they didn't like cut to it a joke. So I'm like, I think she was having a hard time saying Jorge. I was very confused as to why that was hard for her to say.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, maybe they cut the bit. It's just weird considering that BB has a name that a lot of people haven't heard. People in different cultures haven't heard too. And I was like, this is low key wild. I imagine we get a lot more Jorge in the States than they do in Cameroon, probably. In America. Jorge is not a weird name because we get a lot of Jorge here, obviously. I don't know how long she's been living here. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. We should ask her.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. We should have had her as a guest for the finale. Maybe we can have her for the. For a guest for the. For the reunion next week.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That reunion was wild.

[Monet X Change]

I can't wait. One of the best ones.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I literally can't wait. I literally don't have the ability to wait. So we have to do it now. Mona, you're okay with that?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I'm ready. So they're going. Go ahead. I'm gonna go to the final present, to the final presentations. Do you have something else to say before that? Nope. All right, let's go to the final presentations in RuPaul. Okay. This is my favorite RuPaul hair. I want this hair, this laced afro and all its beautiful teased out. It looks. This is my favorite, favorite, favorite RuPaul hair ever, ever, ever, ever. I love this hair.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, this look is stunning. This look kind of looks like what she wore in AJ and McQueen in the last scene where she leaves the pageant and she's running down the street to go find AJ and she's like in the field.

[Monet X Change]

I forgot about AJ the Queen. I forgot about AJ the Queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she's like. And RuPaul's like, in the field, like, crying with AJ. It looks like this dress when Ruby. When Ruby is in the field crying with aj.

[Monet X Change]

Got it. I didn't see that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, this is stunning. RuPaul looks absolutely gorgeous. This is. I can't think of a single bad thing to say about this. Anything about this look. This look is so good. The whole thing, head to toe, looks amazing.

[Monet X Change]

Fabulous ninta flowers. I love this color. I love that she put the train into the side seam. If they didn't point that out, I probably would not have noticed it. That's really cool. I've never seen it since. Is this Nina's invention or is this, like, a thing people do? Because that's kind of fierce.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. She's the first to do it and the last to do it. I mean, there's nothing new in the sun, so I'm sure someone did it before her. Probably. But that doesn't mean that she saw them do it. But I will say that it looks really cool. And I do love this side seam train. And I. Low key want to do it.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it's fierce. It's fierce, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. This office. I mean, she always. Nina really is a stunning queen. And she also, from watching her other video, I was like, this can dance. Like, this can dance. She's a good. She's a really good performer.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A lot of energy. Remember?

[Monet X Change]

Let's move on to those performers in Puerto Rico. The videos you used to show me of them, they used to do, like, Harry Potter, and they used to, like, Addams Family. They were like this, like, crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Addams Family.

[Monet X Change]

Can you send me the link? I want to watch it again today. It used to be so fierce.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I used to watch the Addams Family one, but, I mean, I'll try to find it. I don't remember the Harry Potter one, but that. But the Addams Family one is like, if you go to YouTube to type in the Other Cousin, it. I believe. That's why I used to type in. I used to watch these videos all the time.

[Monet X Change]

You showed me the Harry Potter one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I probably did. I mean, I just remember the one that I used to constantly watch was the Other Cousin. It. It was bananas. And the page is called. I believe it's called Daliok. Yeah. Cindy Ross. It is so good. It's so good. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

It's the Bellatrix one, y'. All. It's the Bellatrix performance. It's so fucking fierce.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, what drag queen is it?

[Monet X Change]

Who.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who's the queen?

[Monet X Change]

It's Me, Ross, Amy Ross, all the Rosses.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The cousin. It is Cindy Ross. Yeah, we.

[Monet X Change]

That's what I'm saying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I always wanted to open up a club like this where they're doing these massive production numbers. It looks so fun. Cool.

[Monet X Change]

Like, I obar in Manila, everything.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We don't. I feel like we don't have one of these in America.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I don't think we do. The close country is Queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, no, no. That's in New York. They have bigger ones in other. But don't. Don't do. Don't do America like that. Don't do America that dirty. Wow, Bob.

[Monet X Change]

I have friends that work at Queen, and they're really good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go on to Rebecca Glasscock. I'm screaming that Rebecca Glasscock wore this dress for the finale. I am screaming, girl.

[Monet X Change]

She don't love herself.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, what's happening? What's going on here?

[Monet X Change]

I think she's a baby drag queen. She ran out of. Honestly, bitch. It's giving. Bob the Drag Queen Season 8 finale. Last episode, you got to the end, and you used all your things. You had to wear what you had left.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, what I wore, I planned to wear. I did not run out of clothes. I planned to wear that. Yes. I planned to wear those pants.

[Monet X Change]

No, you did not, Bob. I was the only pack. You planned to wear the little biker short leotards and the sparkly jacket.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

That you wore for the music video. That's why you had to wear the pants.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no. Yes, Monet. Bitch. I'm the one who was on the show. It was my package. I planned to wear those pants. I had no other outfit to wear those fucking. Those Urban Outfitter pants to. The plan was to wear the Urban Outfitter pants the whole time. That was the plan. The whole time.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you had told me that you were planning to. Cause what Bobby used to wear was that sparkly blazer, the white shirt, and these high leotard pants. But then when they threw in the twist of the challenge, he was like, oh, I have to wear these shorts for the challenge, so I don't want to wait for the Runway. So that's why you swapped them out. That's what you had told me when you came back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I used to wear. You mean my sparkly panties?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, I did used to wear those in your seat all the time. But I guess I felt like on Drag Race, I was like, I shouldn't be wearing a leotard on the last episode. Like, for the last, last final moment on the Runway. I shouldn't be out here in a pair of sparkly leotards. Leotards are in Paris in a sparkly leotard. My original, original concept was to wear this hand painted dress. When my friend ever painted the dress, that was a whole thing. Oh, fever. But anyway, the difference between what me and Rebecca Glascock, what we're wearing, is that what I was wearing, I fucking. It was a jacket. It was sequin, and I fucking won that episode. How dare you?

[Monet X Change]

You did win. But I was just saying. I was just saying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, just say a little less.

[Monet X Change]

Say a little fresh for you, Michael. Bitch, I am. Hey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, let's go into Bibi, the Harbornet.

[Monet X Change]

Bebe looks incredible. This hair is really good. This dress looks gorgeous. Bebe looks really, really, really good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I agree. She looks stunning. I love this look. I just think that, you know, I was really into these hair clips for a while after I watched this and trying my best to recreate it and failing miserably every single time to recreate it. I've tried to recreate this hair so many times. And did you notice that she changed her hair when she put on her crown?

[Monet X Change]

Yes. Yes. Or I think what it is, she just took off. Because it was probably pieces. She probably just took off the loaf pieces so they could put the crown on her head. Yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Took off a loaf. So take a loaf off, girl. Say down. Take a loaf off. So by the time they finished doing their runaway, RuPaul wasted no time letting Rebecca know she was not gonna win Drag race. I mean, RuPaul was like, anyway, Rebecca, move over. So now that we have you two, I was like, screaming, what's going on?

[Monet X Change]

Wait, Bob, hold on one sec.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So have you ever done the loaves?

[Monet X Change]

No, I've never done loafs. What's his name? Marco. Marco. Not Marco.

[Advertisement Voice]

Marco.

[Monet X Change]

Marco. Marco's wig. He did a piece for me, but it was just. It wasn't a loaf that he put on. It was all one. That was the first wig Marco made for me when I won, when I did my first Miss Hell's Kitchen. And this kind of looks loafy, but it's not a piece that stopped on it. Probably was when he's designing it, but yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And to those of you wondering, that wig was on RuPaul's Drag Race? I wore it when I lip synced against Derrick Barry. That is the. The wig one they talking about is the very wig I wore while lipsticking against Derrick Barry. Um, which. Which someone tagged me in again on Twitter recently. And I was like, not this. Making the rounds. Every once in a while, something from Drag Race will make the rounds. And also, just so y' all know, I need y' all to hear this out there. Whoever is doing this online, Monat does not respond to Yalls texts and Yalls tweets and Yalls comments. Okay? Now, tagging me will not get me to show Monet the tweets that y' all are. Someone said Mon never responds to tweets, so maybe Bob will show her this. I know Bob's always on Tik Tok. I know Bob's always on Instagram. I will not show Mon. I will not. I will not be sending Monet your comments or your videos. So I'm not. You need to take it up. Take it up with Monet and. And. And. And. And her hr or her. Or her head of social media as to why she's not responding to your social media comments.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you so much, Bob, for that. You're so. You're so congenial.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I feel like when they do their lip sync, honestly, that moment where BB was, like, doing this little. That is etched into my memory.

[Monet X Change]

Is it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I still remember that so well. BB on the ground, scooting back, going, it will always be in my mind. And then her inside Nina's train was so fucking fierce.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it was fierce. It was a nice final lip sync. But although lip syncing in a final gown is annoying, but also being crowned in your gown is nice, but lip syncing in that isn't great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I agree.

[Monet X Change]

So then you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So then you end up lip syncing in something comfortable, but then you get crowned or something that's not as nice.

[Monet X Change]

So what.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's it gonna be? You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's it gonna be now?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. I'm a little Jesus Christ. I sound like now. Go ahead.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So now RuPaul is like, all right, now that we got that loser out of the way, the real. The real girls are here. I can crown a winner. And we only have three seasons of genuine Drag Race reaction videos where the. The winner wins. And you see their reaction on Drag Race as opposed to on YouTube later. My real reaction was on YouTube much later. Monet's reaction was on YouTube much later. But we got to see BB's real reaction. And I was thinking about all the reactions. I think that you and Trinity have the most interesting reaction I've seen on. Because everyone else is, like, crying, and you and her are like,

[Monet X Change]

I'm smiling. She's like, I'm Like, I know the camera's on. I'm like, huh?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you know that video that little girl watching? There's a video of a little white girl watching Little Mermaid, and then at the very end, the camera comes to her, and she goes, is it just me, or was that Whitney Houston?

[Monet X Change]

Very cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was you. That was you. When the camera panned over, you were like, is it just me, or did RuPaul say, is it Tyler?

[Monet X Change]

Cause, like, you didn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cause you didn't get to, like, cry or anything when you. You didn't cry or anything. You just. Do you think you would have cried if you'd have won by yourself?

[Monet X Change]

I don't think I would have cried. I don't really cry for those moments like that. I'm. My crying is my cry. I never happy cry. I do, actually. I happy cried on this podcast. I do, but.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, let me reel back.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think I would have cried for running Drag Race, but other things have made me happy cry before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Drag Race is nothing to you?

[Monet X Change]

Nothing. Literally the shit underneath my toe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So we find out that the winner of Drag Race not only gets the 15 or $10,000, they get $5,000 in Max and Mac makeup, La Eyewear's campaign. They also get, like. Like, I think $2,500 worth of diamonds.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, from. I think it was $2,000 from that. From that diamond store. Basically, like, K. Every kiss begins with

[Bob the Drag Queen]

K. Can $2,000 buy you a nice diamond?

[Monet X Change]

I think I can. Okay, bye. Bye. Some nice, tiny little studs? Yeah, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wouldn't know. I mean, $2,000, like, is a stud. Is $2,000 it?

[Monet X Change]

Depending on what cut and what kind of diamond? Yes. There's obviously there are some that. I mean, you're not gonna get $100,000 carat diamond, but you can get, like, a smaller carat that would be maybe, like, $2,000 for a pair.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you own any diamonds?

[Monet X Change]

I do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where'd you get your diamonds from?

[Monet X Change]

Cartier.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And those are only diamonds?

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you don't, like, like, one or two diamond items? I feel like people who buy diamonds are, like, really into diamonds. Like, I've been following what's her name online?

[Monet X Change]

Jackie Aina.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jackie Aina. And she has, like, a lot of diamonds.

[Monet X Change]

She does. She does. I guess, like, when I think about it, like, just, like, if I was to outright go buy diamonds, I just can't get over the fact that they're just rocks that we just said are expensive. And again, that's a lot of things, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To be fair, Jackie, diamonds are in jewelry. Jackie doesn't just have diamonds sitting in a pouch like Scrooge McDuck, but like

[Monet X Change]

a whole lot of diamonds. I just can't like one or two for me, like, is. I can palate that. But like, when I see people with like a big diamond collection, I'm like, these are just. And again, that's everything we have given value to. We just said this is expensive. But like just diamonds, like, they're so expensive, my brain cannot get around the fact that they're just like really nice looking rocks for you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's the difference between diamonds and that really fancy expensive bracelet you bought?

[Monet X Change]

I know that's what I'm. Because that's. Because that's like one or two as opposed to. I'm saying a collection like, like for like someone like Liz Taylor had a collection of all these jewels, I'm like. Or diamonds. I'm like, they're just rocks though, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you're not wrong because. So there's a. There's a thing that like diamonds aren't actually truly worth that much. The only reason diamonds are worth what they're worth is because we say they're worth what they're worth because diamonds actually aren't rare. Diamonds aren't ra at all. They're not. They're not the rarest. They're not the rarest on the diamonds are hard. I would say they are. They are the hardest stone known, found in nature. But they are not the rarest stone by any stretch of the imagination. Rubies are much rarer than diamonds. Sapphire is rarer than diamonds, I believe. But yeah, somehow diamonds cost the most. But it's because. It's because they. And Jacob basically, they basically like found all the, all the diamonds, then like, basically kept them away from people so the. So that the other diamonds would worth more. And Jacob was telling me about how. I can't remember Jacob basically explaining to me how the art world works and how art becomes expensive. And the way art becomes expensive is essentially like someone who has clout just says it is like it's not about the art. It's not about how the technique or anything. It's just one person with clout in the art world has to basically say this is really expensive. And then it just becomes expensive gag. Isn't that kind of wild?

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy. Art and diamonds. Because sometimes some, some art is sold for. So I mean, we all. There are art pieces that sell for like tens of millions of dollars. And I'M like, that is wild sometimes. I mean, something like Banksy. I can stomach that because of the whole enigma and everything about Banksy and how you just pops up and it pop. Like, that's interesting to me. But other art that just sells for tens, sometimes hundreds of millions of dollars is. I can't. That's so wild to me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I mean, it's kind of like, you know, the Mona Lisa didn't used to be some. Like, the Mona Lisa didn't used to be the world's most famous, most famous and expensive painting. It was just some regular ass painting, and then it went missing, and then it became the world's most famous and most expensive painting.

[Monet X Change]

Is it the world's most famous painting?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I believe that. The Mona Lisa, yes.

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Expensive?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Probably not. May be expensive, but it's definitely the most famous painting in the world, I would say. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

What about the Scream and all them other things? Yeah, the Mona Lisa. Can you guess the second one?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The second most famous painting in the world? I don't know if the Sistine Chapel counts because it's on a ceiling. I'm gonna go with Starry Night by Van Gogh. Yes.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob, look at you. And the third top three. Who's our top three this season? Who's the third one?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm gonna say she has. I'm gonna say don't give me clues. I was literally gonna say Frida Kahlo, but you cut me off.

[Monet X Change]

No, you're wrong.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, is it Georgia o'? Keefe?

[Monet X Change]

No. Oh, earring.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, the girl with the pearl earring. Yeah, the girl with the pearl earring. Who painted the girl with the pearl earring?

[Monet X Change]

Vincent van Gogh, honey. Vermeer. That's what I meant.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Gather him, Jacob. Gather Monet.

[Monet X Change]

Like a cheap. Do a fainting of me and mine are gonna be the girl with the pearl necklace.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Also, can I quickly say out there, every. Apparently everyone on the Patreon is a patrologist now. Everyone knows. Everyone knows. You looked that word up.

[Monet X Change]

Don't act like you knew that word before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do know. I've always known. I've always known what a patrol is, by the way. It's not like. It's not like I did some. I just know the study of rocks and why they shocked you.

[Monet X Change]

There was like Bobby would come in here and act like he. That he just looked that up to come and read us. They clocked you on the Patreon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, I did not just Google that word. I've known that word, by the way. It's Not. It's not like a far fetched word to know when. I don't know where that's at or no words. I don't know why you guys are shocked that I have an expansive vocabulary. It's actually kind of problematic that you all seem shocked that I would have an expansive vocabulary.

[Monet X Change]

It's not because you black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've never heard you use that word in six years of knowing you.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you, Jacob. Thank you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There are lots of. Well, when have you and I ever talked about the study of rocks? Jacob, when have you and I in our entire six years ever spoken about the study of rocks? Literally, we were discussing whether or not

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we're going to get married.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're discussing engagement rings. And that led into a long, detailed discussion of petrology. Oh, no, Jacob, by your collar. Are you lying? Jacob is sitting on this podcast. Lying. Sitting on. Oh, by the way, real quick, before. Before we move on to the final thing, I want to say out loud that there was a girl who was going viral right now for. For doing the Everybody on Mute challenge and just completely ignoring it. I thought, I am obsessed with her. She's my fucking hero. She said, look around. Everybody on mute. And then she goes, look around. As me and my crew, big energy.

[Monet X Change]

I was, you know, I was. I was there that Houston show and I heard her. I could hear her from where I was down by the stage.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She gagged everyone around her. And honestly, she's having so much fun. Like, I do feel like, look around. You became fun for a while, but then, like, folks just started taking it too far. Folks fighting, wanting to hit people, dragging people through the stadium. Shut the fuck up. It's like, it's like. It's like, are y' all at the concert trying to have fun or y' all at the concert trying to, like, cause a scene? Like what? Like, come on. And this girl is having a blast. She is having a blast. The girls around her were gagged.

[Monet X Change]

The one, the one, the one. The viral video of the girl. She's like,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

oh, in Canada. That was in Canada.

[Monet X Change]

Was. No, it was. It was in Houston. I'm saying that people are reacting to that girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, that. No. Okay, there's two things. So you're talking, oh, oh, there's another girl. Because. Another girl. There's another woman in Canada who did it, but not with that woman.

[Monet X Change]

She just. She.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She just literally goes, the folks who are having fun with it. That's fun. I enjoy that. Having fun and kind of like making looking faces. But, like, when y' all Are fighting in the stadium. What's happening? What are you doing with your life? What are you doing with your life?

[Monet X Change]

Look around. Everybody on mute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Were you. Were you. Were you. Did you rebel and scream? Or are you a little bitch? Were you afraid?

[Monet X Change]

No, I would not rebel and scream. I was. I was. I was. So Beyonce could hear me. If I was doing it, Beyonce would have. Beyonce would have heard me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's. That's the point. Don't you want Beyonce to hear you?

[Monet X Change]

No, I'm screaming.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, so the winner RuPaul's Drag Race season one. America's next drag superstar. By the way, RuPaul's acting like she would return.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, maybe the show didn't go as successful. Maybe she would have, like, B.B. okay, this is just yours now. I'm done. But bitch. After season one. Bitch. She's like, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is good.

[Monet X Change]

Never mind. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Raving. The winner of Drag Race is Bibi Zahara Binay. And do you think she deserved to win?

[Monet X Change]

I think Bibi did a great job, if I'm being honest. I think she deserved to win.

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Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Bibi turned it up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you think Nina deserved to lose?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Nina Loser is what she should change her name to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yikes. Yikes, bro. Yikes. Monet, you finally watched season one? Well, almost. We have a finale. I mean, a reunion.

[Monet X Change]

This was such a good season. I. Again, I said it from the beginning, from, like, episode two or three. I see why this got renewed. Like, if I was watching this in real time, I would have been obsessed, dying to watch another season. Like, it's his. It's just well produced. The drama was great. The glitz, the glam, all of it is just. It is this perfect storm of queerness and femininity, and I just. Drag Race. It is clear why this show is such a success and a phenomenon, because this first season was dope as fuck.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Well, I hope they get renewed for a second season.

[Monet X Change]

I hope so, but who knows, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you believe they're still. Okay, let's predict now, when. When is the show over and when is RuPaul? Like, is RuPaul. Is the show over when RuPaul's done, or does the show go on when RuPaul's like, I can't host. I don't want to host anymore.

[Monet X Change]

No, I think the show's going to go on. I mean, I look at Tyra, look at Top Model. Top Model went on after Tyra left for two seasons, but.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But then. But only for, like, one season. Then Tyra came back, and then it ended. So they did one season with Rita Ora, and then Tyra came back immediate, expeditiously.

[Monet X Change]

Um, I think RuPaul is going to keep on hosting. I think RuPaul has a lot of drag left in her. I say RuPaul is going to be. I think the RuPaul is going to host until 20, at least minimum.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Until what?

[Monet X Change]

Until season 20.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you say another four years.

[Monet X Change]

Five. There's 16, 15. 16, 17, 18, 19, 20. Five more years.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, 16's already been filmed.

[Monet X Change]

Right, but that comes out next year. I said five more seasons, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. I don't know, but I'm saying they're gonna film four more seasons. What? I'm saying we're saying the same thing.

[Monet X Change]

One day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's no reason to fight.

[Monet X Change]

There's no reason to fight. But you say. You mean four. No, I said five.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, thank you all so much for joining us on the podcast.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, what do you think? What do you think? What do you think?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have inside information, so I can't. I shouldn't.

[Monet X Change]

It's not fair. Not insider trading. Yeah. Paula. No. Who went to jail for that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Martha Stewart.

[Monet X Change]

Martha Stewart. Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know the real answer, though, so

[Monet X Change]

I can't with you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I probably shouldn't say anything. Stop with your voice. We need to go. Goodbye, everyone.

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