Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race S1E9 "Re-United" Review

Summary

Sibling Watchery: RuPaul's Drag Race S1E9 "Re-United" Review

Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob The Drag Queen
Air Date: October 4, 2023

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Monét and Bob revisit the iconic “Re-United” reunion episode from Season 1 of RuPaul’s Drag Race. The duo dives deep into the looks, drama, and memorable moments from the cast, sharing fresh commentary and throwing plenty of shade—classic Sibling Rivalry style. Their trademark blend of insight and hilarity turns this nostalgic recap into an essential listen for Drag Race fans, especially those interested in the origins of the franchise’s drama and artistry.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Quick Catch-Up and Banter

• The episode opens with playful banter about cross-coastal travel schedules and recent celebrity run-ins (Chelsea Handler), before jumping into pop culture news and Beyoncé’s Renaissance movie announcement (02:06).
• Memorable Quote:
  "Believe women one day. Believe women." - Bob (01:59)

2. Skipping Episode Seven and Reviewing Other Podcasts

• The duo clarifies (03:06) why they skipped reviewing Episode 7—it’s just a recap/filler and “not worth watching.”
• Suggests listeners check out other podcasts (Race Chaser, Nina Bonina Brown’s recaps) for complete S1 coverage.

3. Weather, Fashion, and Personal Preferences

• Lighthearted debate about personal comfort, fashion choices, and the cultural significance of thermostats in Black households (04:10).

4. The Reunion Runway: A Look-by-Look Breakdown (05:31 - 11:15)

• Victoria "Porkchop" Parker: Simple little black dress; “not particularly exciting.” (06:31)
  • "It's giving New York and Company... Ashley Stewart." – Bob (06:33)
• Tammy Brown: Bandana-over-eyebrow mystery; “Mugler for JCPenney” look.
  • "That's not a—" "That's a read. You're reading her." – Monet (08:32)
• Akasha: Standout legs, but Bob is fixated on an oil sheen stain.
  • "Bitch, get like, okay, bitch. It's season one." – Bob (06:00)
• Jade: Black sweater dress; “looks like the makeup artist on set.” (11:06)
  • "She looks gorgeous, but this dress is... She looks like the makeup artist." – Bob (11:06)
• Angina: Love for her runway walk and headpiece, featuring a live call to Angina about whether she still breakdances (23:20).
  • "I can only do that one move, and honestly, my knees keep reminding me..." – Angina (24:13)
• Chanel: Vegas/high-roller/mom/preacher’s-wife vibes.
  • "She looks like the preacher’s wife or the slut who fucks the preacher." – Bob (25:07)
• Rebecca Glasscock: Criticism for her metallic strip dress and harsh makeup.

5. Reunion Drama Rundown

• Rebecca vs. Everyone: Sharp commentary on how most queens clearly did not like Rebecca. (26:31 - 30:02)
  • "These hoes do not like her... I can't even imagine what it felt like for Rebecca to be sitting there..." – Bob (29:26)
• Chanel’s Meltdowns: The infamous “I chose to go home; I didn’t lose to you” speech.
  • "I have no jealousy toward you, whatever. I did not lose to you. I chose to go home." – Chanel (paraphrased by Bob, 26:48, 27:15)
  • Monet calls Chanel’s claims about her “Medusa head” a “fucking lie.” (27:38)

6. Behind the Scenes of Drag Race Fandom

• Discussing what it’s like to be in the “villain” chair—Becky, Chanel, and modern equivalents (Valentina, Vixen, Mimi Imfurst, Laganja, Serena ChaCha). (30:02 - 32:14)
  • "When she was like, 'I feel very attacked'... I'm on her side nationwide." – Bob (30:47)

7. Judges' Critiques and Contestant Reactions

• Negative vs. Positive Critiques Debate: Tammy questions why judges must be negative, sparking a lively philosophical breakdown from Monet and Bob about the value of tough feedback. (47:09 - 48:38)

  • “You are there to get their honest opinions… sometimes they're bad ones because sometimes they didn’t like your outfit.” – Monet (47:09)

• Personal Worst Critique Memories: Bob and Monet share raw accounts of their own negative critiques (Michelle calling Bob “ratchet”; Monet feeling unfairly judged in the Martian Eleganza challenge—resulting in “the piss episode”). (53:01 - 54:02)

8. Classic Reunion Moments

• Iconic Quotes:

  • RuPaul vs. Tammy Brown:
    • "I don't see you out there walking children in nature!" – RuPaul (54:38)
    • "You forgot you were a star!" – RuPaul (54:54)

• Industry Firsts & Fashion Disputes:

  • The “houndstooth” trend, earliest drag queen singles/releases, and loving (but competitive) squabbles over fashion influence. (41:19 - 42:27)

9. Representation & Homecoming Threats

• Bebe Zahara Benet: Talks about receiving threats as a queer African drag queen. (42:43 - 43:18)
  • "If you come home, we're gonna burn you alive... It's wild." – Bob (42:58)

10. Friendship, Boundaries, and Podcasting Meta

• Candid convos about setting boundaries, privacy (house tours!), and how real-life friendship translates to their podcast chemistry. (31:20)

11. Closing: Future All-Stars and Miss Congeniality

• Reflecting on who from Season 1 returned to the Drag Race franchise, and hope for Victoria Porkchop Parker’s return (58:38).
• Nina Flowers crowned Miss Congeniality, making history as the first—and only—runner-up to win the title. (58:23 - 58:38)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On skipping a recap episode:
  "We’re not going back. Go to Race Chaser if you want that." – Monet (03:06)

• On Akasha’s stained dress:
  "There’s a big stain on her dress that is driving me insane." – Bob (06:11)

• Chanel on losing:
  "I did not lose to you. I chose to go home." – Bob (as Chanel) (26:48)

• On Rebecca’s isolation:
  "I can’t even imagine what it felt like for Rebecca to be sitting there..." – Bob (29:26)

• “I feel very attacked!”—Laganja Estranja Debate:
  "When she was like, 'I feel very attacked.' I’m on her side nationwide." – Bob (30:47)

• On negative critiques:
  "You didn’t go on the show and say, I only want constructive criticism, a positive critique.” – Monet (47:09)

• RuPaul to Tammy Brown:
  "You forgot you were a star." – RuPaul (54:54)

• Bebe’s struggle:
  "If you come home, we're gonna burn you alive..." – Bob, recapping Bebe’s experience (42:58)

• On enduring fashion statements:
  "Can you just acknowledge that I am a part of the reason why houndstooth is popular?" – Bob (41:19)

• Bob’s Win:
  "Who do you think you are? Do you know who the first drag race girl to drop a single on the day she won Drag Race was?" – Bob (33:24)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Recap & Banter: 00:42 – 03:00
• Episode 7 Skip/Other Podcasts: 03:06 – 03:27
• Runway Looks Breakdown: 05:31 – 11:15
• Rebecca vs. Everyone: 26:31 – 30:02
• Chanel Drama: 26:48 – 28:09
• On Negative Critiques: 47:09 – 48:38
• Personal Critique Stories: 53:01 – 54:02
• “Walking Children in Nature”/RuPaul’s Yelling: 54:38 – 56:04
• Bebe’s Struggles: 42:43 – 43:18
• Miss Congeniality & Returns: 58:23 – 59:18

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Tone and Style

Throughout the episode, Bob and Monét combine incisive Drag Race analysis with genuine camaraderie and raucous humor, alternating between deadpan reads (“Mugler for JCPenney”) and thoughtful reflection on the realities behind the sequins. The tone effortlessly swings from biting to affectionate, always underpinned by deep experience in both the industry and the subject matter.

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Final Thoughts

This episode, as always, blends nostalgia, humor, and real drag queen honesty to illuminate the enduring influence of Season 1 and its Reunion. Whether it’s dissecting the shade or celebrating the trailblazers, Bob and Monét keep it lively, insightful, and joyfully irreverent. If you missed the “Re-United” episode, this rundown is the next best thing to being in the workroom.

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Next week: Sibling Watchery will dive back into listener advice—exclusively for their patrons!

Transcript

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[Bob]

That was really nice.

[Monet]

You said it wasn't really nice or it was really nice?

[Bob]

I said that was really nice.

[Monet]

You're really nice. Bob, how you doing? Look at you back in. You know what, y'. All. So Bob was in New York for a while, and then literally the day I flew here, he flew back to la.

[Bob]

That's not true. We actually had a crossover. You were there. I was there last night.

[Monet]

Oh, you were. I thought you were leaving yesterday.

[Bob]

I left this morning because I saw that you went to Chelsea's show last night.

[Monet]

Mm. I love Chelsea Handler so much. What a nice lady. What a nice lady.

[Bob]

She's lovely.

[Monet]

So funny.

[Bob]

She actually invited me out to. To. To her show, but I was like, girl, I have. I'm. I'm. I got work, and I. I would love to have come.

[Monet]

Well, so she. That's this thing. She, like, like a few weeks ago. She's like. She's like, girl. I was like, hey, girl, what's up? She's like. She's like, are you. Are.

[Bob]

Are.

[Monet]

Are you in town on the 30th? On the 30th, you should come to my show. And I was like, yeah, where is it? She was like, at the Beacon. I was like, Chelsea, for the 40amount of time I live in LA, not New York, but I also just happened to be here on the 30th, so

[Bob]

I guess she was right. So she was right.

[Monet]

She. She didn't know.

[Bob]

She thought of the name, but she was right. But she was right. Is what we're getting down to. Believe women one day. Believe women.

[Monet]

I believe women in stem. Oh, did you hear the news? What, about Act Two Renaissance? No, it's a movie. It's coming out December 1st.

[Bob]

Oh, how exciting.

[Monet]

I know. I mean, I have to imagine beyond. I mean, you can imagine, but all those costumes, all that stuff, to not have it documented. Some fierce film. It's gonna be so good. Her and Taylor Swift are like fucking wild in these streets. They're fierce.

[Bob]

Anyway, they're both doing a lot of stuff, so I hope everyone Enjoys Renaissance on December 1st.

[Monet]

Well, that's. It's not. It comes out. The official announcement comes out this morning at like 2am or something. So we'll see.

[Bob]

We also know Beyonce will drop a date and retract the date, too. We know that. She was like, y' all didn't see nothing. We were like, we saw that.

[Monet]

Dino, who's not retracting, dates RuPaul in

[Bob]

the reunion of season one one, RuPaul's Drake, episode nine. Yes, we did skip episode seven.

[Monet]

Right. And we're not going back. We're not going back. So if you want that, go, go, go to Race Chaser. Maybe they're going to do it for you. We're not going back.

[Bob]

I heard Nina Bonina is also reviewing season one, so maybe she'll do a great recap of season seven. So you have options. There are places you can go. You can go see, go to watch Raw View, or you can watch Race Chaser or listen to Race Chaser. And I'm sure you will get.

[Jacob]

Just explain what happens on episode seven. Why we chose not to review.

[Bob]

Episode seven is like a kind of.

[Jacob]

Like a.

[Bob]

Like a recap kind of, but also like a drag thing. And it's like, it's weird. It was just not a good. It was not worth watching, worth reviewing, in my opinion. It wasn't. It wasn't like an episode with contestants. So the. The contestants weren't on the episode like that.

[Monet]

Why do you have on a full on. Are you that cold in your home?

[Bob]

No, but it's cold enough for me to wear this. It's just cold enough.

[Monet]

You. You're. You're such a little temperature bitch.

[Bob]

Am I?

[Monet]

Yeah. You're always cold. You're always cold.

[Bob]

I am frequently cold. That is true.

[Monet]

Do you think you're anemic?

[Bob]

No, I'm pre diabetic.

[Jacob]

Can you tell us about why you're wearing a sweater as well?

[Monet]

Because I'm in New York where it's actually cold. Not y' all fake LA cold.

[Bob]

I was in New York last night.

[Monet]

It's not that cold last night, baby, if you want to be somebody. Oh, I forgot you have a weather app.

[Bob]

What is the weather?

[Jacob]

Looking at the weather in New York right Now it's currently 72 degrees.

[Bob]

Yeah, it's 72 degrees. Why are you wearing New York?

[Monet]

You're in Los Angeles, and that's cold.

[Jacob]

62 degrees.

[Bob]

It's colder in LA than it is

[Jacob]

70 degrees in Los Angeles.

[Bob]

It's colder than it is there.

[Monet]

So it's good because I have my temperature on, baby, and my temperature is on 68.

[Bob]

So you're the one I love to bundle up.

[Monet]

Oh, the weather outside is right cool.

[Bob]

You're in a prison of your own design.

[Monet]

Okay.

[Bob]

In a prison of your own design. You know, but, you know, when you

[Monet]

walk into a hotel and you're like, you know, it's cold, but, like, I'm like, my ride coming here was so late. Cause the thing got late, and I was like, I just need to, like, set up my stuff.

[Bob]

The first thing I do in my hotel is, first of all, search for five minutes trying to find all the light switches. And then after that, I immediately go to the thermostat. I don't fuck around with the thermostat. Me. Me and little Miss Thermostatiana. Immediately. Immediately.

[Monet]

That's one of the blackest things about you.

[Bob]

So let's go into this. We are going to talk about the reunion episode of RuPaul's Drag Race Season 9, Season 1, Episode 9. Sorry. And the first thing that is tickling me pink is that as RuPaul announces, the girls are standing at the top of the Runway. They're just standing right there. RuPaul didn't talk about them. And they're just like. They're just standing there.

[Monet]

I didn't notice that.

[Bob]

It really takes me out. And Akasha has a stain on her dress.

[Monet]

It's from the oil sheen.

[Bob]

I know what it's from, but bitch get like, okay, bitch.

[Monet]

It's season one.

[Jacob]

The bitch.

[Monet]

They had fucking plugs and outlets and switches just all around her dang care about her damn dress.

[Bob]

I still am very upset about this oil sheen on her dress. Like, it is just driving me crazy. There's a big stain on her dress that is driving me insane.

[Monet]

Tammy. Tammy. Look is.

[Bob]

So we're going to order by the looks. So I jumped the gun. Let's go with Victoria. Victoria Porter is going about the ones

[Monet]

that, like, made us. That had an impact.

[Bob]

Well, we should talk about every look. I mean, we have time. I mean, there was not. There was a challenge episode. So Victoria Porkchop Parker is literally just wearing a little black dress. She looks good, but this is not particularly exciting. It's Very much giving New York and company is giving Ashley Madison. I mean, Ashley Stewart is actually Madison. A hookup app. Yeah, the hookup app where you married people.

[Monet]

Yes.

[Jacob]

Yeah. People looking for affairs.

[Monet]

Yeah.

[Bob]

You want extra Madison?

[Monet]

Tammy Brown is so interesting because I don't understand the choice to have. Yeah, sure, use your natural hair, but then put the bandana around where your eyebrows would be like. Do you think that was a choice or she just fucked up her eyebrows? I feel like this.

[Bob]

She has a theory that she didn't want to do her eyebrows, so she put the. That's what Jacob's theory was. I mean, we were just sitting there. Jacob was like, she didn't want to do her eyebrows. And I was like, I don't know if that's the case.

[Monet]

That makes sense. It's so strange to put the thing right over your eyebrows. It's so wild.

[Bob]

Jacob, where did you find these GIFs?

[Jacob]

There's a website that compiles all. All the drag. It's like the drag race Wikia. Not Wikipedia, but like Wiki. It's like a fan.

[Bob]

Like Wiki Race. Like Wiki Drag Race.

[Jacob]

Basically, they have like all the ones. That's also where I pulled up the photos of Monet's wigs. It's from. It's from the same website. An archive of all the looks.

[Monet]

I'm screwed even y'. All. You see now, now Jacob trying to be funny. They have you. You find other pictures. You. You trying to be funny. Bring that up again.

[Bob]

The fans. Sheon you, honey.

[Monet]

Well, the. About the many times they sheen on you. It was. I was about do.

[Bob]

And yeah, Tammy's look is. Is kind of cute. It's giving. It's giving Mugler for JCPenny. You know, that's not a.

[Monet]

That's a read. You're reading her.

[Bob]

No, because it's Mugler for JCPenney. Like, I would wear a dress from JCPenney, but the Mugler for JCPenney would be a high end JCPenney, a low end Mugler.

[Monet]

You better clean that, Rita, because you know Tammy gonna cuss your ass out in Spanish because, you know, you don't understand it.

[Bob]

She does speak well. You know what? I'm not against saying I don't like her look. I'm not. I do think this look looks nice. It's not my favorite look, which is why I'm giving it Mugler for JCPenney. You know what I mean? Um, let's go. Natasha in her stained dress. She looks good. I just realized how wild her Eyebrows are, though.

[Monet]

She looks like Wendy Williams also. She's. These are her natural legs. So either she. She had these, like, little pads, or she's stacked like that. Whatever it is, she look good. Oh, no, she. They are pads. I can see them now.

[Bob]

Yeah, she has little pads, but she has. She has. She has amazing legs.

[Monet]

And, yeah, her legs look great because the legs are thick. That. That. That's how people know that I don't have a bbl. For real, because my legs. My thighs match my legs. I am a big lady. I'm big all around.

[Bob]

Okay.

[Monet]

Okay. What?

[Bob]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Monet]

Clear it up. Okay.

[Bob]

What? Okay. I don't want to spill. I don't want to put your business in the street. I'm your friend. I don't want to put your business in the street.

[Monet]

I'm obsessed with this fucking fake story that y' all have started telling.

[Bob]

I'm not telling a story. All I said was I don't want to put your business in the street. That's literally all I said. That's literally all I said. I don't want to put your business in the street. Do you want. You asked me to respect your privacy, and this is me respecting your privacy. So.

[Monet]

Okay. Don't. Don't respect my privacy. What?

[Bob]

No, no. That's the trick. That's a trick. Y' all don't ever fall for that trick. I respect my friend's privacy. I. I believe in boundaries. And you set a clear, undeniable boundaries.

[Monet]

Because for the past 12 years, nary a boundary asset has been respected.

[Bob]

So when did that fall? Saying 12 years to me feels very microaggressive. I don't like Nobody saying no. 12 years. Nothing. 12 years are nothing to me. 12 years is not. I don't like how you said that. Wait. Wait till next year. Or you should have said this shit last year. But don't. Don't say it during this calendar year, honey. Cause something about it felt like a microaggression. I'm gonna go ahead and just throw that on the ground. It's very colorist of you.

[Monet]

Oh, my God. You're so such a freak. I think Akasha looks really hot, and she looks very fuckable, and she looks like a Real Housewife of Atlanta. She looks hot.

[Bob]

I agree. I can't get over the stain, but the rest is great. Let's go on to Jade, who's also. It is little black dress season. Jay is up here in a. It's just like, a sweater dress or like a. Like a cowl neck or. I can't tell if it's cow or if it's collared with a. I love her ponytail. And she looks beautiful.

[Monet]

Human honey. Human honey.

[Bob]

Neck up. She looks gorgeous. She looks gorgeous. But this dress is. She looks like. She looks like the makeup artist. She looks like she is literally the makeup artist on set.

[Monet]

That Mac. Yeah.

[Bob]

Once I, like, did a comedy show, and this one comedian was there, and we were. We were filming it for Comedy Central, and this one come in was dressed in all black, and I literally thought she was the makeup artist. I went to her, and I was like, can I get a little bit of.

[Monet]

Did you really?

[Bob]

Yeah, because Monet, she was hanging out by the makeup station, dressed in all black, doing her own makeup. She was literally by the makeup station, dressed in all black, holding makeup. What was I supposed to think? That's like, if I go to. If I go to. If I go to Foot Locker in a striped shirt and somebody come up to me and ask me how much these J's cost, I can't act shocked.

[Monet]

Let's go on to Angina. Who. I like this Angina look. I like the fasting of her head, and I love. Okay, this might sound shady.

[Bob]

Wait, before we go to Ajina, I want to talk. Because I want to talk about the talking. So these. This group came out in a chunk all the way up to Jade came out in a chunk. And I'm gonna talk about some of the things that I wrote down, something that. That Victoria Pork Chop Parker said. This has. This has been kind of a groundbreaking show, and I think it would live on in history forever. Honestly, she ate that. Like, she really saw the potential of this show. And, you know, when I first watched Drag Race, up until season four, we always. We were always like, the. The word on the street was like, this last season, every season up until season. Like, when season five came about, we stopped saying it in the club.

[Monet]

Swear. People swear they know.

[Bob]

Oh, we swore we knew. We thought we had inside information. We thought we. We thought we knew. Ted Viacom himself. Honey, no, I don't think Viacom was actually anyone's last name. I just. I just like saying Ted. And then, like, whenever I say Ted Walmart, Ted Target, Ted Paramount, Ted Viacom, Ted hbo. Because of Ted Turner. Yes, that's why I like to say it.

[Monet]

I got you. I know you better than yourself.

[Bob]

You know about Ted Turner, of course. Per. But anyway, we all. We all thought it was gonna be the last season. When did you start? You started season two.

[Monet]

Two. I thought it season two, but I didn't. I. I saw. I watched season two, like, while season three was airing. I was watching that, and I was kind of watching season two at the same time, I think. I don't remember exactly.

[Bob]

So what did you watch in real time?

[Monet]

Probably season five as I watch over real time. Oh, season four.

[Bob]

Oh, my God, you're such a little late bloomer. I'm screaming.

[Monet]

Yeah, I watched season four in real time. I think. I don't remember. It was so long ago.

[Bob]

How old were you when this season came out? Season four one.

[Monet]

Season one came out in 2009. Yeah, I was 18.

[Bob]

So you're in college or in high school?

[Monet]

I'm screwing. I was just. I was just leaving high school.

[Bob]

Oh, is there a high speed chase? Is the building you're in burning down?

[Monet]

Which I probably. It's in New York City, most likely.

[Bob]

Can I tell real quick about a size. So I saw this with this. This. One of my mutuals on TikTok made this video.

[Monet]

Oh, my God. I saw you. Oh, my God.

[Bob]

No. What are you talking about?

[Monet]

Oh. Cause you tagged me in that video.

[Bob]

Oh, no, that means I text her and she told me to tell you not to do a house tour. And you. And if you don't. And if you don't, you was like, I'm gonna call Architecture Digest. No, don't call nobody. Mind your business. And don't do a house tour. Let them mind their business. And I love that she. That she said that. And then I. And I did tag you in it, and I text her and then she was like, yeah, don't be doing no house tours. Don't be doing no house tours.

[Monet]

I love her.

[Bob]

See, you'll listen. Why would you listen to what she said, but you don't listen when I say it? How come I had to say it 10 times and it didn't mean nothing? She said it once. She said, tell her no unless she has 24, seven armed security guards posted at her house. It's a setup. That's what I've been fucking saying. How come when she said it makes sense, but when I said it, it was just flim flam?

[Monet]

I'm gonna cry.

[Bob]

I'm gonna cry.

[Monet]

I'm gonna fucking. Why would it straggle you?

[Bob]

Why was it flim flam when I said but it was gospel.

[Jacob]

Damn.

[Bob]

Y' all want to be acting like I don't know nothing. Anyways. Anyways. With a Z. Oh, so this girl, she posted online about how she was like, she moved to New York City, and she lives in East Flatbush, and she hates that she's really far from the train. She's about a 20 minute walk from the train. She was like. So people on Twitter were roasting her. Fuck you. If you don't like it, leave. We need to build borders around New York City. Fudge this shit. Go back to Atlanta, you dusty, crusty, musty, raggedy bitch. And I was like, first of all, y' all acting crazy. As someone who moved to New York City from Atlanta, who moved 20 minutes from the train, I can. I can tell you it is. It is. Everyone in New York City wants to live near a train. I don't know why these folks are acting. Everyone in New York City wants to live near the train. Maybe the time when I. When I moved to 106 in Amsterdam, I. When I tell you my life was changed, I didn't even know life could be that good. When I lived in Ozone park, when I lived in Long Island City, I used to walk across a bridge to get to the train, to walk literally 25 minutes to the F train across the Roosevelt Island Bridge. Used to be a welfare island. Across the welfare island bridge, down the welfare island.

[Monet]

Yes, transplants want to live by trains, but, like, a lot of people live in, like, Canarsie and, like, Brownsville. Stuff like that.

[Bob]

Like, the train goes to Canarsie. If you live in Canarsie, you live in a train.

[Monet]

There's, like, one train that goes to Canarsie.

[Bob]

A lot of one train. It goes. It stops. It stops at the beginning of Canarsie.

[Monet]

Yeah. A lot of Canarsie cannot be accessed by train. So, like. But a lot of people who live that far from the train, they have cars. Like, I grew up, like, a lot of people, like, and I lived, what, 11 blocks away from the train. But a lot of, like, my friends that, like, whatever, like, grew up in New York, like, they have cars.

[Bob]

Yeah. No, obviously. Okay, when I say everyone, I'm being a bit hyperbolic. Not everyone wants to live under the train. But those of us who don't own a bodega or a fucking auto shop or have a job out in Flatbush, most of us don't work in our neighborhoods. And you know this. Most New Yorkers, yeah. Do not work in their neighborhood. But these career. These lifelong New Yorkers, y' all be living working in the same neighbor. Y' all niggas don't never leave Brooklyn. 18. I ain't never been to Manhattan. Proud as hell. I ain't never been to Manhattan.

[Monet]

Once you. You're joking. I have Bob.

[Bob]

I know people who have no mon. I live in New York City. I know.

[Jacob]

For.

[Bob]

I used to live. I know. I used to live in Queens with a woman who told me she'd never been to Manhattan. She was in her 40s. I was like, how have you never been to Manhattan?

[Monet]

I think it's kind of fierce.

[Bob]

How do you live in Queens? You have never been. You are in your 40s. You've never. This is insane.

[Monet]

Because you have everything you need and probably a 10 block radius.

[Bob]

Bitch, leave Queens. You have to be avoiding Manhattan to live in Queens and not go to Manhattan. You have to be actively avoiding Manhattan. You got everything you need, girl, you've never met your friends. Do you go to concerts?

[Monet]

Yes. In Queens, actually. Yes.

[Bob]

The City City Brooklyn. Maybe in Brooklyn City Field.

[Monet]

But you don't go to Field, honey.

[Bob]

You don't go to msg. You don't go to. You don't go to Barclays in Brooklyn. You don't go to. To Manhattan Ballroom on 34th. You don't go to Webster Hall.

[Monet]

You don't.

[Bob]

You ain't been in. You ain't been to Terminal 5.

[Monet]

Which also I found this out. It was a fucking. This thing that they made up that MSG was this, like, horrible thing for you in Asian food. It was such fucking racist propaganda. And I did. You grew up. You grew up in this time where it made you feel like if you eat Asian food that's bad for you, it is fake news. That's bullshit.

[Bob]

Yeah, yeah. Anyway, and I meant Maskeware Garden. I miss. Anyway, long story short, y' all stop gaslighting that woman. Y' all know that most New Yorkers want to live near a train. And I hate that she felt so bullied.

[Monet]

We have to go to a concert, Bob, at the MSG Globe in Vegas. I saw videos of it.

[Bob]

Oh, is it all by Master Garden?

[Monet]

I don't know, but it's called MSG Sphere.

[Bob]

Oh, I want to go. I saw it. It looks insane.

[Monet]

It looks crazy. And when we go, I'm taking a mushroom. I'm going to be living my best life.

[Bob]

Why we ain't going together? Go. Go with Kim and Naomi and do your little. Do your little mushroom shit. I'm not babysitting. No, no. High bitch tripping balls. We sit here trying to watch concert. You're like, whoa, I'm not. I'm not hanging with no bitch stuck in Mesopotamia.

[Monet]

First of all, I am like an. Mushrooms don't do that to me. Anymore. Like, that was the first time. It doesn't do that to me anymore.

[Bob]

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[Monet]

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[Monet]

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[Bob]

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[Jacob]

So the next queen walking down the Runway is angina.

[Bob]

Okay, so wait, I also wrote this Tammy Brown. And so they go on about how Akasha is really abrasive, apparently.

[Monet]

Yeah.

[Bob]

And Tammy Brown said, I think it's appalling and it hurts my feelings. Tammy is in her feels on this episode. She truly is.

[Monet]

Well, I mean, she's atoning for. Did she call somebody, like, a dumb African bitch or something?

[Bob]

No, she called Bibi her. Her little African something. I don't think she got her a dumb African bitch, but she did call her little African rose, I believe is what she said.

[Monet]

She was too, though. She said that one and something else in the same episode, like, right after the other. I was like, this is crazy.

[Bob]

Also, this is not. This is not atoning. But she goes, I think it's appalling. And it hurt my feelings. And also, Ru would not let go of the talk about Jade's tuck. I was like, oh, my God.

[Monet]

I know.

[Bob]

It was a. I was like, RuPaul said, the question on everyone's mind, how big is it? You don't have to answer that. No, I'm kidding. Just show me with your hands.

[Monet]

Also, I think it was very sweet to see Akasha be vulnerable, have this vulnerable moment, because, you know, she was kind of like, not the villain of the season. Because also I.

[Bob]

No, we know who the villain was.

[Monet]

Yeah. Chanel.

[Bob]

Yes. No, the villain was Rebecca.

[Monet]

But I wouldn't say they made it seem like everyone was. Was bullying Rebecca. It didn't seem like Rebecca was this villain. Chanel seems like the villain to me.

[Bob]

Interesting.

[Monet]

You think that Rebecca was like a villain. She was just like, malicious, evil person.

[Bob]

No, it's not about none of them evil. But Rebecca was late. She didn't see the. The narrative seemed to be that she was always late. She didn'. And she did have her little demo where she's like, you never rush a drag queen. This is ridiculous.

[Monet]

I think that Chanel was made of Villa.

[Jacob]

Like she.

[Monet]

She always wanted to be praised. Felt. Felt like she was never got her just do. She felt like. Felt like everyone was getting things that she deserved.

[Bob]

And like, I wrote down some Chanel quotes this episode too. She was wild. I. She is the quot. The quotable queen of the sea. Of the sea song. Honey of the sea song. Let's go on. Yeah.

[Monet]

Ajana walk is a workroom. I have to say, I did not get the whole Angina walk thing. Everyone said Ajana's walk was so fierce. Blah, blah, blah. In this reunion, I see it. I think Ajana's little walk is actually. It's kind.

[Bob]

I love it. And once she did, I remember that Angina did a breakdance move at the end of the. At the end of the run. I completely forgot that Angina just started straight up B boy breakdancing at the end of the Runway. That is so fucking funny to me.

[Monet]

Wild.

[Bob]

Like, honestly, she looks sick.

[Monet]

Yeah, it looks. Look really good.

[Bob]

I wonder.

[Monet]

I wonder if Ajana can still do that.

[Bob]

Should we call her an asker?

[Monet]

We can.

[Bob]

Hold on. It's probably poor taste to call someone on a podcast without telling her on the podcast.

[Jacob]

Hold on.

[Monet]

I mean, we're gonna tell her when we answer. Sure.

[Bob]

Like, what the hell are you doing? Are you calling the right person? Johnny, you're on speakerphone, and I'm doing the podcast. I have a quick question for you.

[Monet]

Okay. This is legit question. Are you.

[Bob]

You're called the right person. Do you know that we're reviewing season one on. On Sibling Watchery? Wait, what? We've been reviewing season one on something Watchery.

[Monet]

I heard.

[Bob]

People have been telling me, but I can't afford your Patreon, so I haven't listened. Oh, we'll send you some links. We want to know, can you still break dance like you did at the end of the Runway on.

[Monet]

I can only do that one move,

[Bob]

and honestly, my knees keep reminding me

[Monet]

that I should stop, probably.

[Bob]

When's the last time you did it? Oh, like last brunch. Oh.

[Monet]

Oh, recent. Okay. Work.

[Bob]

You better work.

[Monet]

You.

[Bob]

It's the one move I have. Let me have it. No, it's amazing. I love it. We're praising it. We were just talking about how great it looks. It's an amazing move. I'm obsessed with. I'll teach you one day.

[Monet]

All right. I love you so much.

[Bob]

Bye. Bye. I love you. Bye. There you have it. She still got it.

[Monet]

Audrey was about to drink.

[Bob]

She's about to get Dick in that ass.

[Monet]

Like, motherfucker, that's my woman. Let me have my shit.

[Bob]

I was like, I love it, I like it, I love it. I want some more of it.

[Monet]

Chanel looks like a high rolling mom. Like she's a high roller at some casino in Vegas and she is walking in, like, go to have her drink and just sit at the blackjack table all night long.

[Bob]

Yeah. To me she looks like a preacher's wife or the slut who fucks the preacher or. Yes. Yeah. I think also your depiction of her is great too. Like some sort of a Texas. She's like a Texas mom.

[Monet]

Doesn't she look a little brown to you?

[Bob]

Not particularly.

[Monet]

Work.

[Bob]

Let's go on to Rebecca Glasscock.

[Monet]

Oh, Lord.

[Bob]

The reason for the season, the reason for the six. Oh, we didn't go on their looks. I like Aunjana's look, by the way. I think she looks really cute.

[Monet]

Yeah. Aunt looks really cute. The fascinator. The paper. Yeah, she looks great.

[Bob]

Yeah. And the fascinator is. It is a alligator eating a bird.

[Monet]

It's wild. It's a little wild.

[Bob]

And we talk about Chanel and Rebecca. The little back dress. It really is back. And I don't understand what some of this strip of metallics going down the middle of the dress. I'm not interested.

[Monet]

Like a tie. Kind of like fashion. Like a tie to be.

[Bob]

I don't like it. Her makeup is also really harsh here. More harsh than normal. Yeah.

[Monet]

I think she saw herself on tv. She's like, oh, I don't know when this was recorded, but she's like, I'm gonna go for the gold.

[Bob]

So let's talk about what we have. So let's. Now we have these.

[Jacob]

These.

[Bob]

The next couple out, let's talk about what's going on with. Okay, so girl, these bit. I forgot these. Don't fucking like Rebecca.

[Monet]

I mean, first, but first, Chevelle goes off on this I should have won montage. Like, I should have won this. Like, like, I mean, sorry. They played this montage of her saying I should have won all the things she should have won. And I was like, I didn't realize how much she really thought this. Pretty much every episode, multiple times an episode that she deserved things that she did not get.

[Bob]

And how many did we not even get and how many did we not even get to see is the real question. She says, I have. Chanel says, I have no jealousy towards you. Whatever. I did not lose to you. I chose to go home. So whatever you. So I want you to know that first and foremost, I'm. Read that one more time. I have no jealousy toward you. Whatever. I did not lose to you. I chose to go home. So I want you to know that first and foremost, do you believe that that's true?

[Monet]

I think that Chanel wanted to go home, and they still had to do the format of a lip sync. And she was going to go, because in that lip sync, I don't feel like Rebecca's that face of a lip syncher. You could have justified either one of them. But Chanel wanted to go home. She literally asked. She said, please send me home. I'm ready to go home. And they're like, okay, lip sync and go home.

[Bob]

I mean, do you believe that Chanel really did the. The Medusa head thing on purpose?

[Monet]

That bull fucking shit. Bullshit. That is a lie. That is a fucking lie. She said that. She said she jumped and she'll get a Bullshit. She's a liar.

[Bob]

Why don't you believe her, Bob?

[Monet]

You know that was a fucking. You think that she planned that?

[Bob]

Not particularly, no.

[Monet]

I also gagged for the audacity to say to RuPaul, I feel like from day one, I was the one person you didn't like here. I was like, work.

[Bob]

I mean, Chanel was in her feelings, like she is really. And everyone's got a problem with. Also, it was pretty clear from the time that Jade came out that all the girls thought that Rebecca was just some dumb, ugly piece of. Who was actually not ugly. They all thought she was a dumb piece of evil, monster, gruesome, who should. Who should have gone home a long time ago. And then Tam Brown was like, I. She was like, everyone thinks that I should have won that lip sync. And Tam Brown was like, I second that. And then when RuPaul had to go out and raise her hands, they were all of a sudden, most of the girls got a little quiet. Quiet, yeah. But they was talking that shit in the group chat.

[Monet]

Well, also like it also when Jade is having this moment with Rebecca, like, with the lip syncing thing, saying how Rebecca, like, pushed it down and scratched her. Blah, blah. Reka may have scratched her, but Jade aggressed her first. Jade, like, grab. She grabbed her boobs. She grabbed her pussy. So then Rebecca was just playing with her back. If she was scratched. Looking at the lip sync, it does not look like it was an intentional. I'm going to harm you. They were. You touched her. So T touched you. And, like, you can see Rebecca realizing this in a moment. She was like. Because she Said it like, yeah. Cause, like, you touched me first. And she was like, yeah, yeah, like, you touched me first. Like, Rebecca, like, forgot that it happened. You can see her, like, realize it in that moment. I was like, good. Yeah. Let that bitch know.

[Bob]

Yeah, I agree. I think that the Rebecca hate got a little wild. The Rebecca attacks got a little crazy this episode, and I was like, these hoes do not like her. And I honestly can't even imagine what it felt like for Rebecca to be sitting there with essentially, Jade, Chanel. Tammy kind of, like, echoed a sentiment

[Monet]

earlier,

[Bob]

all being like, we don't like you. We said what we said. Like, have you ever been in a situation where, like. Where, like, a lot of folks didn't like you?

[Monet]

No, I really haven't.

[Bob]

Well, you were there when. Wait, no, that wasn't your season. Never mind. Valentina wasn't your season.

[Monet]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Bob]

When everyone, like, turned on Valentina, that was, like, so wild to watch. I just don't know how she felt that moment.

[Monet]

I think we talked about it when we did the episode that she did last week, kind of a little bit. We touched on it.

[Bob]

Because I don't think everyone. I don't think everyone was really against the vixen.

[Monet]

Yeah, no, we were not all against the vixen. No. No.

[Bob]

I wonder how Mimiyeon first felt when everyone was against her in All Stars 1.

[Monet]

So mean.

[Jacob]

And Laganja and Serena Chacha.

[Bob]

I feel very attacked.

[Monet]

Yes.

[Bob]

When I go back and watch that. I'm on Laganja's team.

[Monet]

Yeah.

[Bob]

I'm on her team. When she was like, because you. When there's a point where everyone just keeps talking about how. How annoying you are. She's like, I get it. I'm annoying. I'm stupid. You guys can't fucking stand me. I fucking get it. And then. And then Adora's like, we don't want you to feel attacked. And then she goes, I feel very attacked. And I was like, honestly, I'm on her side nationwide. Although isn't Lagarde the one of the ones who thinks we don't like her?

[Monet]

Yes. So now I see. Oh, my God.

[Bob]

Wait, do we not see them? Have we not discussed on the podcast? Oh, I thought we talked.

[Monet]

We did not.

[Bob]

I forget because the reason I forget is because our private conversations are just like our podcast conversations, y'. All. Me and Monet, we really don't switch it up, so I be forgetting what we talk about. Also, whenever I'm over, like, over at rehearsing with Madonna, Some. Someone will be like. I remember someone was like, you always talking to Monet. And I was like, we're friends. We're real life friend. We are friends for real. Someone's like, damn, you always talking to Monet. Yes, I'm always talking to Monet. We are friends in real life.

[Monet]

Yeah. Oh, I also wrote down because. Because, I mean, they bring out. Are you ready to bring out.

[Bob]

Do you find that people often when you say something and they're like, you gonna put it on your podcast?

[Monet]

Yes, they do say that. They do.

[Bob]

And sometimes we do,

[Monet]

but, like years later, not like in the moment. We did like a few months or a few years later.

[Bob]

All right, sorry, go ahead.

[Monet]

You're saying something. I was saying that they bring out Nina next.

[Bob]

Yes. Nina Flowers looks so good.

[Monet]

She looks really good. Me, bitch. Seeing her in these contacts, I was like, oh, my God, those contacts were such a time. Everyone was obsessed to these crazy color contacts. Some stuff died.

[Bob]

Speak for yourself. You. You were one of the main perpetuators, honey.

[Monet]

Okay? That's because you couldn't put them in your eyes if you. Bob. If you could, you would have.

[Bob]

That's not true. I never tried. I never even thought I had a thought to put contact my eyes ever, even once. What if they don't work? What a bold assumption you've made based on literally nothing. First of all, Monet, if. If anything, you know that I'm notoriously off trend. I am notoriously never on trend,

[Monet]

says Mr. What's. What's that thing you got you be flying around now? Drones are a trend.

[Bob]

Drones are not a trend. Drones.

[Monet]

Drones are a trend.

[Bob]

Drones are not trendy, Monet.

[Monet]

Not right now. But they were once upon a time,

[Bob]

which I'm telling you, I'm never on trend. I'm always either behind or way ahead of the trend.

[Monet]

Please, like, what. What make clear, what trend were you way ahead of?

[Bob]

Let's be clear about that, honey.

[Monet]

What trend were you way ahead of?

[Bob]

I was the first New York City queen to win Drag race Houndstooth. You were not. Who was? Bianca.

[Monet]

Bianca.

[Jacob]

I know.

[Monet]

BB Season one.

[Bob]

I was. I was ahead of houndstooth. Bibi's not. Bibi's from Minneapolis. I was way ahead of houndstooth. Oh, hey, all this houndstoothing going on. Who do you think? Who do you think you. Who do you think? Who do you think you are? Do you know who the first drag race girl to drop a single on the day she won Drag Race was? Do you know who that was? Do you know that was Alaska. Do you know who the tea. Alaska. First of all, I won Drag Race before Alaska did. Let's be clear about that.

[Monet]

Did you?

[Bob]

Yes, I did. And the truth is, it was actually Violet Chowski. I'm kidding. Actually, I don't know. When Wylace dropped her. Dropped her?

[Jacob]

It was. It was. It was on the night she got crowned.

[Monet]

Yeah.

[Bob]

It was violent.

[Monet]

Come. Come through.

[Bob]

Honestly, her yelling come through is such a great moment. I think she hates it now, though.

[Monet]

Does she?

[Bob]

I think she hates. Come through.

[Monet]

I had dinner with her the other day. She. I said this already. She's so fucking funny.

[Bob]

She is very funny. Have you ever watched her tiktoks?

[Monet]

No. Violet. Violet does TikTok.

[Bob]

They are so strange. What is it like? It's like there's, like a clip of her, like, vacuuming. And then I was like, what is this? And she was like, it's a TikTok. Bop. Wait, Violet.

[Monet]

I can't even think what Violet is even fucking doing on TikTok.

[Bob]

Like, the one of her vacuuming is so strange. Or they're really bad. Like this one here.

[Monet]

I'm not mad at you. I'm mad at the dirt. Is she doing the drag?

[Jacob]

No, she's not even one of that guy interviewing Dita Von Teese. That's my favorite.

[Bob]

Oh, yeah, the one of the guy. Yeah. The guy's being like. Like something. Like, can you come. Can you, like Violet Chachki? Can you come for her? And then something about, like, being sassy. I don't know. It's is so interesting. She's just. She's a. It's honestly a great tik tok. You all should go check it out. It's really funny.

[Monet]

Oh, I see. Violet's such a cute boy.

[Bob]

Why don't you go her in the ass then, Monet? Why don't you go Violet right up her poop Shoot.

[Monet]

I would.

[Bob]

I would like. I would like to see. Have you seen that meme, Monique? I would like to see it.

[Monet]

I'm Kiana, and I leveled up my business with Shopify. Once I figured out that Shopify was

[Bob]

a thing, I never turned back. I can create a site with my eyes closed. Shopify thinks ahead of us, you know,

[Monet]

and it thinks about the customer more than anything.

[Bob]

Every day I'm thinking about some other new business, but Shopify is doing it

[Monet]

to me because it's so easy to use.

[Bob]

It's like, I can't stop. I'm addicted. Start your free [e-mail].

[Monet]

no, that was my sister they have. There is not one draggers girl. I'm like, oh, I would have. I didn't. I don't. It's not about a drag. Like, I would.

[Bob]

It's giving. It's giving. It's a drag thing, but not. It's giving. Toxic masculinity.

[Monet]

Not any girls that I'm friends with like that. Like, there are one or two, but not any of my friends. Like, but that's just not even a dragon. Just friends. I. I'm not a. Are you. Person. Like, well, you. You are. I cannot fuck my friends.

[Bob]

I don't. I would. I don't fuck all my friends, but I would fuck some of my friends and I would. I would fuck several Drag Race girls.

[Jacob]

Monet. What about the girl from All Star seven?

[Monet]

That was different. It was before we were on drag. Oh, my God.

[Bob]

I would fuck a lot of Drag Race girls. And I would. And I. And I. And I do fuck a lot of my friends. So

[Jacob]

you.

[Monet]

Okay. Do you prefer fucking friends?

[Bob]

Not necessarily, no. I have people I hook up with that aren't really friends. We're just kind of like. We're just like fuck buddies. But I also don't fuck, to be clear, I don't fuck most of my friends.

[Monet]

That's what it sounds like. I know you. And the takeaway from me was that you fuck most of your friends.

[Bob]

I don't fuck most of my friends, but I fuck some of my friends.

[Monet]

Bob, you're so wild.

[Bob]

Why?

[Monet]

I think you. Well, that's the thing. You are one of the most progressive people I know, but also one of the most conservative people I know. It's so wild.

[Bob]

How am I so conservative? Because I don't want to show my fucking nut sack on the Internet like you because I don't want to slide my G string to the side and show whole. On Instagram, Bob dresses.

[Monet]

Bob dresses like a nun. Bob is covered from your chin down to the pointy part of your little long shoes. Just every inch of you is covered.

[Bob]

Well, it's just how I like to dress. What do you want from me?

[Jacob]

Okay. We were. We were staying at Bob's mom's house for a holiday and Bob had like a cousin who was like a baby, like a toddler, a two year old toddler. And the toddler was running around in his diaper and his mom was like,

[Bob]

he needs to be wearing clothing. He's a baby. Growing up in my house, you weren't allowed to walk around shirtless in the house.

[Monet]

Really?

[Bob]

Yeah. I couldn't Walk around shirtless in the house. I had to walk around.

[Monet]

Oh, we walked around shirtless in my house.

[Bob]

No, no, you could not walk around. No one. Boys, girls. You could not walk around the house shirtless. I come from a very modest family.

[Monet]

Oh. My mom, my mom used to walk around titties hanging out sometimes.

[Bob]

I've maybe seen my mom boobs maybe once in my life. Maybe once maybe.

[Monet]

And my mom has, like, h. Boobs. Like boobs.

[Bob]

No, my mom has small boobs.

[Monet]

Got it.

[Bob]

What'd you say, Jake?

[Jacob]

You've seen the overalls, though, Monet, haven't you?

[Monet]

I've seen overalls.

[Jacob]

Every once in a while when Bob is really, really feeling it, he has one pair of overalls.

[Monet]

That is true. That is true. I see Bob and overalls like once

[Bob]

a year, but it's a great day also.

[Monet]

When I met, when Bob and I used to hang out in Amsterdam, Bob used to wear his little booty shorts. Bob would wear these over. Oh, those overalls.

[Bob]

The little cutoff overalls.

[Monet]

All his little ash shit cheek meat was hanging out. But now he's just so conservative.

[Bob]

Girl, once a year. Once a year, girl. We need to move on to the next topic. So Nina Flowers looks amazing, and I'm low key obsessed with Bibi Zaharbonet's hair. I don't know what's going on with it, but I love.

[Monet]

Does look really cool.

[Bob]

It's like this spiky kind of like, it kind of looks like Cher. You remember when Cher had that spiky hair? It was when Cherry. How do I describe this dress? How do I even Google it? Cher, Bob Mackie hair. Oh, yep. That actually did it. Yeah, it's her. The Oscars in this.

[Monet]

Oh, yeah, I see that. I can see the.

[Jacob]

Can you send that to the group chat just so I can get it to Jay?

[Bob]

Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I, I love this hair and I think that she looks really good.

[Monet]

Yeah, I think this was, this was such an error in drag when people would just throw a corset on on top of a gown. Love throwing a corset on top of a gown.

[Bob]

Yeah, I don't love that. I, I, I'm guilty. I've done it, I've done it in my day. But, you know, if you want, if you want to solve this problem, what you can do is you can just make a corset cover. I can actually show you guys a picture of that too. You can make a corset cover. And honestly, it actually, it actually looks really nice. I'm gonna show you guys a picture of me. By the way, when I tell you I've been in this houndstooth game for a while, this will let you all know. Baby, when I. When I did the piss out, that was not my first. That was not my first time venturing into my love for houndstooth. I have been in these houndstooth streets. Can you just acknowledge that I am a part of the reason why houndstooth is popular? Can you just say that out loud, please?

[Monet]

I don't think that's why.

[Bob]

Why do you not want to give you my flowers?

[Monet]

I'm giving you many flowers.

[Bob]

Why did I want me to be. Why do you Don't. Why do you. Why do you. Why do you not want me to be a fashion icon?

[Monet]

Why do you want me to lie to you?

[Bob]

You're just afraid that I'm going to be the fashion icon iconista. You're mad because you found out it was true. Because. Because it has suddenly occurred to you that it might be true. Do you know who that is?

[Monet]

No scar.

[Bob]

Oh, that's

[Jacob]

Nina.

[Bob]

Nina Simone. She went during her concert where she. She goes, I am a queen. And you are laughing because it has occurred to you that all of a sudden that it might be true. Anyway, this is the picture. I just sent it to the group. That is. That is how you can take a cor. You basically. You basically make a sock and put it over the corset. And then it doesn't look like you just have a corset on. And it can give shape to the dress, too. And this is from. What year is this? Since we asked. In 2011.

[Monet]

Not the black tights.

[Bob]

2011, honey.

[Monet]

That doesn't.

[Bob]

11. I've been in this game for a minute, honey.

[Monet]

First person in the game with a stamp from Rue.

[Bob]

And I'd have been around the world. Who the fuck are you? So what I have written down for this section, which this is when it starts, this one, it got wild. First of all, real quick, BB Talks about getting threats for being a queer African and being, like, a drag queen and African, which I can't even imagine. That just sounds horrible. Being like, if you come home, we're gonna burn you alive. Like, what? It's wild.

[Monet]

It is wild. Oh, before they talk to Bibi, I wrote down that Nina is such a graceful loser. And I don't. That sounds shady, but I mean, like, she said, like, RuPaul asked about losing, and she was like, I'm honored to lose to Bibi. Like, she's amazing. She's great. And I'm just happy, basically. I was happy I was here. And I'm like, imagine though, Chanel, she's like, well, she didn't deserve someone. I should have won.

[Bob]

We don't have to imagine. We saw it. There's no need to imagine. We saw what happened when Chanel didn't win Drag Race. It was right there before our eyes. I should have won because I am amazing. So when Rebecca was telling her story about her friend who was living with hiv, the girls were looking around like, we don't. They were looking like, we don't believe this bitch.

[Monet]

Awkward as fuck.

[Bob]

All the girls are like, awkward. They were like, we. They didn't say. No one said it, but their faces were giving to me. Bitch, we don't believe you.

[Monet]

Oh, yeah, for sure. It was all said with just a look. Also. Just a look. And. And. And. And this is where RuPaul asked them about the wig. And I want to say emphatically, just like, Candy's train gown, Chanel, that shit did not. These things did not like Chanel. Wait, what did Chanel say about the wig? This is when the wig thing happened, when she said that she did it intentionally.

[Bob]

Oh, got it, Got it.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Monet]

I want to reiterate that. Lies. Can y' all comment below what you all think she's lying to? Telling the truth. Because I. There's not a single ounce of me to think that. That she's telling the truth on that.

[Bob]

No, Wait, so do you. Wait, what came with Candy in the train? Does she still have it or did she get rid of it? Is she. Did she chop it up and came with something else? What happened?

[Monet]

I don't remember, but she said that she had this train and she just didn't use it. And we all asked her to post a picture of it. Just show us a picture of it. Nothing. This fucking train dress. Like, what?

[Bob]

I don't know why. I don't know why you versus Kandi's train is so funny to me. We just want to see a picture. We just want to see. We just. We just want to see a picture.

[Monet]

Like, girl, it's bullshit.

[Bob]

It's the Bronx versus Brooklyn. It's the Bronx versus Brooklyn and Brooklyn.

[Monet]

Brooklyn will always win.

[Bob]

Brat.

[Monet]

What up?

[Bob]

Cardi would like to have a word with you.

[Monet]

That's so messy. That's so messy. We don't need to put women in rap against each other. So this is when Chanel has this backup.

[Bob]

Oh, I think he's from Queens.

[Monet]

No, I was going to say look him, but that's Too much. Yeah. Chanel is.

[Bob]

Are they rappers from Manhattan? Oh, Azalea Banks.

[Monet]

Azalea Banks. Yeah.

[Bob]

Nikki is Staten Island. No pitch.

[Monet]

The fuck?

[Bob]

There's going to be some Jersey. There's a lot of Jersey rappers, though. I can't name any women in Jersey rap right now.

[Monet]

Queen Latifah.

[Bob]

Queen Latifah's from Jersey. Whitney Houston is not a rapper.

[Monet]

Chanel is so hung up on others opinions. I don't understand why Santino, like, why his opinion is so important to her. Why?

[Bob]

This is when it got. This is when it got crazy. First of all, before we go on to the. Before we go on to what she said to Santino, I just love when they asked Angina what she felt about lip syncing after she won. And Angina said, oh, I wanted to slap you into pieces.

[Monet]

I know. To RuPaul that's what she wanted.

[Bob]

That is such. I think Aunjana needs to sell Emergency. It says, oh, I wanted to slap you into pieces, while smiling. I wanted to slap you into pieces. So she said. Chanel said, santino, you are the reason I left this show week after week. You gave me such horrible critiques. When I walked down that Runway and I juggled, that was amazing.

[Monet]

It was.

[Bob]

And they all were like, yeah, it was. Yeah, we agree. They were all like, we agree. I just didn't like some of your outfits. They're like, we're not saying you're ugly. We're not saying you're busted. We're not saying you're not talented. All we're saying is, I just didn't like some of your outfits.

[Monet]

And she was so hurt about, like, it really upset her. I just understand why.

[Bob]

Well, Tammy Brown agreed with her. Tammy Brown was like, why do we need to be negative? So, I mean, so I'll pose the question to you. Why do the judges need to give negative critiques?

[Monet]

Because they. Because you are coming on this. Because you're coming on this show. And not that they have to give negative critiques, but you are there to get their honest opinions about your. About your talent, about your presentation, about all that stuff. So their honest opinions are not always glowing reviews. Sometimes they're bad ones because sometimes they didn't like your outfit, but most times they did. Like, you're opening yourself up to that critique. Good, bad, or ugly. You didn't go on the show and said, I only want constructive criticism, a positive critique. You're going on there to be judged by people.

[Bob]

Well, we have seen a season of Drag Race without negative Critiques we have.

[Monet]

And that was their prerogative that specific season. But for this one, they're like, no, we want to give you our unfiltered, honest opinions. And I thought your outfits were ugly. Could you juggle? Sure. Your outfit was ugly. Your hair was uneven. You look dusty.

[Bob]

Do you think that the season is better when they give honest critiques or. Or. Or not? By the way, giving. Giving. Giving positive critiques does not mean that your critiques are dishonest. It just means you're looking for something positive to say. So my question is, do you think that it makes the season better when they give their full, unfiltered critiques? Yes, because also, seven was a good

[Monet]

season, but it was also a very exceptional season. Right? Like, they were like every, like, week after week. Like, a lot of the runways were amazing. A lot of the performances and challenges were all really fucking good. But that's not always the case, right? So I think that. I mean, I like the good and the ugly. I think it makes the show spicier. It makes bitches a little more hot. It makes shit to me. It makes it a little more fun in my honesty.

[Bob]

I'm on your side. I'm just asking Tammy's question. Obviously, me and you are clearly not above giving negative critiques. Obviously. It's gotten us into a lot of hot water over the years. There's been no drama this season. I think this is our only season of Watcher that we've not gotten this drama over. Like, our only one. But it's probably because it's the old season. They've already. They've already hashed these feelings out, girl. They're like, we're good on this, honey. Have these. Don't even do that what you say, Jacob, did we get.

[Monet]

Do we get. Do we get drama? Last season for all start for season 16 15. Who won that season? Tell us who.

[Bob]

Who got Lucy or Mayeri and.

[Jacob]

Oh, yeah, Malaysia, baby doll Fox.

[Monet]

Oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah,

[Bob]

yeah, that did. That did happen.

[Monet]

Did Lucy get mad at us?

[Bob]

I think she might have got mad at us at once at one point. Which, to be honest, your anger and your critiques are all valid. You are perfectly free to get mad at us. We don't rebuke you. And if we have the right to come on the Internet and talk about your outfits, you have the right to come on and talk about our critiques. You have every right in your valid.

[Monet]

So just, you know, so after Chanel has this meltdown, Angina goes on to say that, yeah, like, that one comment.

[Bob]

Wait, before we move on, can we talk about that? You paid too much. $560 pants. He goes, you paid too much. I used to. I used to say that all. I used to always go, you paid too much. You paid too much. That was. That was part of my personality. Saying you paid too much twice was part of my personality in, like, 2009, up until 2010. You paid too much.

[Monet]

You paid too much to get in the bar. And you. Anjana's saying that. Yeah, because that one comment made about my pantsuit really hurt me. I was like, oh, my God. I'm like, girl, what?

[Bob]

And Tammy Brown really took it. She said, you called. You called me a loser.

[Monet]

And they're like, no, we did not say that. And if that did happen, we did not see it on camera.

[Bob]

She was like, you called me a loser. I just can't imagine they'd be like, you're a fucking loser.

[Jacob]

Right?

[Monet]

Like, that just does not sound plausible. That's what I'm saying. Like, maybe they said I didn't like something. And you.

[Bob]

I mean, she did say, sashay away, which does mean that you've lost the competition. I don't know if that necessarily constitutes to. To calling you a loser, but it is very. It is. If they did not call her a loser. That is a bold statement to make, girl. And.

[Monet]

And RuPaul goes in this Oprah era. And Rua and her Oprah. RuPaul in her Oprah era and hug Chanel. I was like, oh, that's cute.

[Bob]

And then she asked Chanel if Chanel wants to hug.

[Monet]

No. She act like this motherfucker was the Antichrist. No, not him.

[Bob]

Janelle is not having it with Santino Rice. Not having it. In her defense, I will say this. When you are being negatively critiqued on stage, it does not feel good. It does. It feels bad. Is it? It more than doesn't feel good. It feels actively bad. You're being critiqued. And. And the power dynamic is there's. There's. You have no power. You are a submissive competitor. While you have this. These judges who are adjudicators judging you and you. And if. And if you say anything back, then they're like, shut the fuck up. Don't you ever speak back to us. What's up?

[Jacob]

Literally, what was your worst critique experience on Drag Race?

[Bob]

Michelle called me Ratchet, which I didn't like, and I didn't understand why I got called Ratchet. And Kim and Naomi kept, like, saying, it looks like I was not Kim. Kept saying, it looks like you're literally not wearing any makeup at all. And I'd be like, okay, I can admit that it looks like I'm not wearing a lot of makeup. But she goes, no, it literally. She kept going, it literally looks like you're literally not wearing any makeup. It looks like you just put on a wig and you went on the Runway. And I was like, well, that's. That's just not true. That's just not true.

[Monet]

Those are the first two things you told me. The makeup thing and the nails thing. Those are the first things you told me when you came back.

[Bob]

It was driving me crazy. She kept telling everyone that it looks like I was literally wearing no makeup. I was like, that's not. That's not true. That's not true.

[Monet]

So my worst critique. I don't know what my worst one was. I don't know.

[Bob]

I was told to.

[Jacob]

I remember more like, the experience of it. Like, what do you remember? A moment of, like, getting critique that you're like, specifically, like, the biggest downer.

[Monet]

Even though I think my first time at the bottom with a pound of the alarm, that red thing. Cause I gen. To this day, I genuinely do not think I had the worst makeover outfit on. I'm not makeover.

[Bob]

You sound like Chanel. You literally sound like Chanel. There is nothing you can say that would convince me that I should not have won that challenge.

[Monet]

I should. There were worse Martian eleganza looks than mine. Mine was not that bad, but they made it seem like mine was so egregious. Especially my second one was really fudgeing good. And my third one was. Was. Wasn't the best, but it wasn't the worst. It was okay. And to stand up there and tell me that my shit was bad drove me insane. Found me alarm so bad that I peed on myself. I fucking pissed on myself. I was so fucking livid. I was angry.

[Bob]

That was the piss episode.

[Monet]

That was the piss episode.

[Bob]

Damn. What were you wearing when you pissed yourself? I was wearing my. I was wearing this gown.

[Monet]

I was wearing my red Martian eleganza fucking outfit, and I was wearing miss Cracker's red panties that she let me borrow, and I didn't wash them.

[Bob]

Now you pissing yourself in her. I'm gonna. I'm gonna send you guys the picture of me in this gown. Jacob. You're gonna get it. You're gonna get it.

[Monet]

Jacob. Jay has pictures of me in my Martian eleganza.

[Bob]

So. Yeah, and then we got the famous. The famous quote. I Don't see you. I don't see you out there walking children in nature.

[Monet]

I just love RuPaul getting his wife. No, no, no, I did not. No, I did not.

[Bob]

No, no.

[Monet]

Tammy, you forgot who you are.

[Bob]

Tammy, you forgot who you are. I didn't. No, you forgot. You forgot you were a star.

[Monet]

Oh, yeah, you forgot you were a star.

[Bob]

Well, it also is one of my favorite quotes if. If I had a nickel for every time someone told me I couldn't make it as a drag queen, I'd have a million, billion dollars. That is also. That's one of those things. I said it with RuPaul when we were watching it today. If I had a nickel for every time someone told me I wouldn't make it as drag queen, I have a. I have a million, billion dollars.

[Monet]

Watch your mouth.

[Bob]

Excuse your mouth.

[Monet]

What do you think RuPaul was thinking when she said, he's probably like this. What the fuck is wrong with this?

[Bob]

I mean, we've already established that Tammy's nutty. We had it. We said it right top of the show. So I don't know. RuPaul can't be shocked. Like, if. If you invite a mouthy friend over, you can't be surprised when they mouth off.

[Monet]

I just like RuPaul in this moment. He probably is like, what the fuck? Like, I just yelled at her. What the fuck is wrong with her?

[Bob]

But how would you. How. How would you handle it? You've been. You've been in the room for one of RuPaul's famous yellings.

[Monet]

Yeah. I cannot imagine RuPaul yelling at me like that. That would feel.

[Bob]

You've been in the room when he does one of his yellings. How does it feel when he does one of his yellings?

[Monet]

Oh, when RuPaul does one of his yellings, it feels like it's like you're seeing your mom do some crazy shit or something. You're just not expecting. Like, the room gets quiet. The room gets quiet, and no one.

[Bob]

Not Asia Ohara, not Asia. Asia wanted to fight.

[Monet]

Oh, yeah. Aja did. Well, I'm talking about two. So to that episode, I told y', all, when they were taking so long to start, and we were all sitting there dragging. These bitches are sitting here in full fucking drag. Y' all are just toying up with these lights.

[Bob]

Get these cameras rolling now.

[Monet]

And then we were all just like. And then, bitch, in two minutes, the cameras were rolling and we were recording a reunion.

[Bob]

I was like, so why couldn't we do this?

[Monet]

10:30 minutes ago. Oh.

[Bob]

But as soon as RuPaul yell, y' all get the. Anyone who knows Camera crews are notoriously all waiting on each other. When you do a film, when you film something, everyone's waiting on someone else. And then everyone goes, oh, we're all ready. It's every time everyone's like, so one person goes, what are we waiting on? And then everyone goes, oh, we're ready. It's like, oh, well, let's start filming. What was the tone in the room when Asia, like, was, like, fighting back with RuPaul?

[Monet]

I was the next advantage. And we were both gagged. We were both grabbing each other's knees, and it was, like, very. It was gagged, like, in sexual tension. Yeah, well, I was trying to get her dick. Cause, you know, Vandy. But it was very strange to see Asia talk back to RuPaul. I need to watch it again. Cause it's been so long since I experienced it and seen it. But it was very gagged. Cause also. Cause Asia is one of the people. When she yells, she's shaking. Like, she's. Cause she's, like, about to. She crying.

[Bob]

She was crying. She was crying? Yeah, she was crying.

[Monet]

So it's always when I hear someone yelling like that, it's always funny to me because it's just so funny when people do that. I find it to be very.

[Bob]

How many people were on Asia's side?

[Monet]

It was just Monique and Asia.

[Bob]

And was everyone else neutral? Were you guys like.

[Monet]

Like, I was neutral. I know I was neutral because I was like, well, it's. I was like, she want to leave. Let her leave. I was like. I was like, why are we. I was like. Because I also didn't see her point. Like, I didn't. I didn't understand the vixen's point,

[Bob]

and I need to rewatch it too. And was Asia saying. Was Asia saying that someone should have gone after that? What Asia was saying?

[Monet]

Yeah. And I was like, why? Oh, she wanted to go. I was like, she doesn't want to be here anymore. Like, why are we chasing her?

[Bob]

You can't make me. You can't make people do things they

[Monet]

don't want to do.

[Bob]

Right.

[Jacob]

And they did. They sent a producer after her?

[Monet]

Well, they did because they wanted to finish it. But I was like, girls, just let her go.

[Bob]

So after RuPaul yelled at everyone, they came back, and we found out that our Miss Congeniality is Nina Flowers, who I believe is the only ever first runner up to be a Miss Congeniality.

[Monet]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bob]

And of this cast who has been back on Drag Race. From this cast, Bebe, Zahara Benet, Nina Flowers, Nina West. Nina West, Nina Flowers, Angina, Tammy are the only ones who've been back. So we still have room for Victoria Pork chop Parker, Akasha, Jade Chanel, and Rebecca and Rebecca Glasscock to return to Drag Race. And honestly, I would love to see some of these girls back on my screen. Specifically, specifically Victoria Pork chop Parker.

[Monet]

Yeah, I'm surprised they haven't had her back yet.

[Bob]

If anyone should get a second shot is her, in my opinion.

[Monet]

I would agree with that.

[Bob]

Especially someone to grow. They give second shots to him, like, for real.

[Monet]

Okay, damn. Drag them.

[Bob]

You know, every time you were like, okay, yeah, sure, sure. When I say sure, Jan, I didn't mean j.

[Monet]

Bob, but come on now, that's not cool.

[Bob]

When I say sure, Jan, I didn't mean jan. I meant the saying sure, Jan. That's not cool. It was not about Jesus, Lord. When I say sure, Jan, I meant the saying jan. Not literally Jan. I like. Jen's actually really talented.

[Monet]

She's amazing. I love Janice.

[Bob]

So what you guys don't know about Jan is a great singer.

[Jacob]

Yes.

[Bob]

This is undeniable. Everyone knows she has a great singer. Go look at her singing. Oh, holy night. Jen is a crazy lip synchronous. Like, Jan's lip syncing is very on point.

[Monet]

I think about her talent show often. Or maybe not talent show. When she walks in, she's like, I'm gonna rule the world. Was that her lip sync?

[Bob]

It was. It was the rusical. The Madonna rusical. I wanna rule the world. It is based on a Madonna interview where she goes global. A complete global domination. It's an old interview of Madonna from, like the 70s or the 80s, and Madonna's like, complete global domination. I want to rule the world.

[Monet]

Got it. Sounded really good.

[Bob]

Speaking of which, you all should go see me and Madonna on tour together.

[Monet]

I'm going.

[Bob]

Starting the 15th. I think our first.

[Monet]

I don't think what city I'm going to because I know everyone's gonna like, bombard me in that city. So I'm not gonna say what city, but I'm going.

[Bob]

Oh, but you want to do a house tour. Okay, sure, sure, sure, Jan. But you want to show everyone but you want to show everyone your home address.

[Monet]

They're not going to see my address.

[Bob]

But that's how. But they can easily dox you. That's what me and this girl trying to tell you.

[Monet]

First of all, she's not a girl. She's a woman. Stop calling women girls. She's a woman.

[Bob]

Ok. Me and this grown woman are trying to tell you. These two grown women are trying to tell you this.

[Jacob]

Did people come up to you when you went to see Beyonce?

[Monet]

Yeah, I got, I got, I got. I got stopped a lot, which was felt again because they're like huge celebrities, like, walking around there, right? Like, Lizzo comes in, everyone's like screaming and carrying on and stuff like that. So I'm like, bitch, I am not nearly anywhere close to as famous as Lizzo.

[Bob]

Exactly.

[Monet]

Don't try to come for me. When I came for you, your little Kate McKinnon video.

[Bob]

Exactly.

[Monet]

I played a small part. Yeah, small.

[Bob]

Small.

[Monet]

Very.

[Bob]

Don't try to. Don't try to do a reboot of old joke. We're not.

[Monet]

We're not doing reruns that Joe. Gathered you.

[Bob]

We're not doing reruns, honey.

[Monet]

Gathered. Cleared.

[Bob]

Now go back to how unfamous you are. I'm reading your shirt. You. I'm treating your shirt.

[Monet]

You're sick.

[Jacob]

You just demonetized this video on YouTube.

[Monet]

Right, Jay? Please bleep that.

[Bob]

Oh, but you can wear the shirt, fag. The fag can wear the shirt, but I can't say fag. Nice.

[Monet]

I've worn this on the podcast many times.

[Bob]

He knows that all those episodes are demonetized. Have you noticed that?

[Monet]

That's not true.

[Bob]

You don't go to the. You don't go to the YouTube page and look. You don't actually look at our statistics. You literally never do your due diligence.

[Monet]

How do you think. How do you think I wire all the money to my account?

[Bob]

Girl. NT ways.

[Monet]

Freudian flip. Freudian flip.

[Bob]

We have the winner for post Drag Races. She's the very first winner. She is incredibly deserving. She released the first Rug Girl music video. She's the first winner. She's international. She is. She is truly, truly an icon.

[Monet]

I think we should do some advice. I missed advice. We should go back to advice for a little while.

[Bob]

I like that, too.

[Monet]

I agree.

[Bob]

So next episode, we'll be giving you all some advice. So we're going to be either digging in some archival advice or picking up some new stuff. We do take advice exclusively from our patrons and we do give advice exclusively to our patrons. So no shade to those of you who aren't patrons. But if you want to get your advice question possibly answered, then please go to sippingriverypodcast.com support or go to Patreon. Type in sibling rivalry.

[Monet]

Yes, ma' am.

[Jacob]

All right.

[Bob]

I love you, Money.

[Monet]

Love you too, Roberto. Bye.