The One About 2025

Summary

Sibling Rivalry – “The One About 2025”

Episode Date: December 31, 2025
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change

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Episode Overview

In this year-end special, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change take a hilarious and honest look back at 2025, offering their trademark banter and playful bickering. The duo covers everything from movie box office records and pop culture milestones to personal reflections, travel tales, and New Year plans. As always, their infectious chemistry and biting wit create a fun, unpredictable ride through their lives and the year’s culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Updates & Tours

• Bob’s Broadway Debut: Bob shares news about joining the cast of Moulin Rouge! on Broadway as Harold Zidler, starting January 27th at the AL Hirschfeld Theater.
  • [00:39] “You can come see me, Bob the Drag Queen, on Broadway… Get tickets at seethdragon.com.”
• Monét’s Comedy Tour: Monét is touring with “High Heels, Bad Knees,” her stand-up show, expressing pride in her new material.
  • [01:05] “I am coming across America… It’s some really funny stuff, and I can’t wait for people to come see it.”

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2. Music, Movies, and Disney Pop Covers

• Disney Song Covers: Spirited discussion about pop artists re-recording Disney songs for movie credits, name-dropping Panic! at the Disco, Demi Lovato, Celine Dion, Vanessa Williams, and others.
  • [01:53] “Every Disney movie, they take one song from the show and they do a pop cover.” (Bob)
• 2025’s Top Movies:
  • Zootopia 2 and Sinners are discussed as top-grossing films.
  • For Good is mentioned for its high opening weekend, but the top spot worldwide is Nature by Beijing and Light.
  • [04:13] “For Good is not one of the… And the number one spot is a movie called Nature by Beijing and Light.” (Bob)
  • [04:35] “Everybody said double Zootopia. That’s crazy.” (Monét)

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3. Random Knowledge: Global Geography

• The duo debates the size of India vs. the US, as well as world land masses.
  • [05:00] “India is about half the size of America… The largest country is Russia, Canada is second.” (Bob)

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4. Would-You-Rather: Bob vs. the Polar Plunge

An extremely memorable set piece: Bob insists he would rather eat a spoonful of feces than do a polar plunge in Antarctica.

• [06:14] Bob: “Eating the shit.”
• [06:15] Monét (in disbelief): “Really?”
• The two debate the relative horror of eating feces vs. jumping into freezing waters, escalating into silly specifics about the size of the spoon and “chasing” it with lemon juice.
• [09:05] Bob: “If it’s a kitchen spoon, I’d rather eat the kitchen spoon. If it’s a ladle, I’d rather jump in the lake.”

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5. Reflecting on the Year – Grading 2025

Each host assigns a letter grade to the year:

• Bob: C+ / B–, noting past years like 2016 and 2018 as “A” years (his Drag Race win, new relationships, returning to theater).
  • [10:50] “2025 a C plus, maybe a B minus.”
  • [11:51] “2016 and 2018 were both A’s for me.”
• Monét: B, highlighting her engagement, major accomplishments, and touring.
  • [11:20] “I got engaged this year. Okay. A B. I give 2025 a B minus.”
• Both reflect on how grading has shifted post-2020.
  • [12:26] “I’m appreciating… like in New York City, when it finally gets warm...”

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6. Cold Weather & Seasonal Depression

• Recollections about surviving brutal New York winters versus L.A.’s balmy Decembers.
• Bob admits he doesn't get seasonal depression, joking, “I got that year round shit.” [13:45]
• Monét attributes hers to grey Portland winters but now mostly feels thrown by the early sunset.

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7. NYC Memories: Peacocks & Pizza

• The hosts reminisce about peacocks at St. John the Divine cathedral and offer a New York City pizza recommendation (Cornet Pizza at Broadway and 110th).
  • [18:06] Bob: “You gotta go see the church at Amsterdam and 110. It is a stunning church... the largest cathedral in the northeast.”
  • [20:11] “Huge slices of pizza. That is so good. On my life.” (Monét)

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8. Petty Bets & Podcast Debts

• Riotous back-and-forth over outstanding podcast bets—Monét allegedly owes Bob $1,990 (or more), including $1,000 for Mortal Kombat, $1,000 for Smash Bros.
• The argument becomes a showcase of their absurd competitiveness and mock outrage.
  • [24:43] “No, this… Monet owes Bob $1,990. And you just lost a $10 bet. So I’ll put it up to... 2,000.” (Bob)
  • [25:33] “Anyone out there, don’t trust this… she will scam you at DragCon.” (Bob)

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9. Voicemail, Communication Styles, and Gen Z

• Discussion about whether anyone checks voicemails anymore, generational differences in communication, and their own missed calls.
  • [26:25] “Who checks voice notes? Who checks voicemails?” (Bob)
  • [27:01] “I have not checked a voicemail in literally in years.” (Bob)
  • Leads into a Patreon poll request: Who checks their voicemail?

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10. Holiday and New Year Party Plans

• Monét discusses her engagement party; Bob and studio staff debate why they weren't invited.
• Plans for a New Year’s party surface, including Nick Smith joining and reflections on last year.
  • [28:21] “Nick Smith is gonna be in town. Should we do a big, like, New Year’s Eve party?” (Monét)

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11. Personal Anecdotes: Clubs & Hookups

• Recounts of trips to Puerto Vallarta for New Year's and Thanksgiving: strip clubs, karaoke, “bear” parties, and group dynamics.
• Discussion of hooking up with flight attendants, and Bob’s preference for “Delta guys with big fat asses.”
  • [36:30] “I want to hook up with a flight attendant so bad. They’re so hot.” (Bob)
  • [36:40] “They always look so slut in… every man who works for Delta has that big fat ass.” (Bob)

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12. The Traitors Experience

• Both will have seasons of “The Traitors” premiere in consecutive years; Monét expresses excitement to see Bob’s season and vice versa.
  • [38:03] “You had some of my favorite… when y’all were doing the thing with the statues… that was hilarious.” (Monét)
• Bob notes how physically demanding the show’s challenges were.

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13. Residuals & The State of Entertainment

• Updates on how strike-era union deals improved streaming residuals, with both sharing experiences on what TV/film work pays back.
  • [40:17] “Have you noticed that residuals have been way better?” (Monét)
  • [41:41] “I get pretty good checks from… Black Lady Sketch Show.” (Bob)

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14. Pop Culture: Grammys, Kendrick, SZA, Mariah Carey

• Discussion about Beyoncé finally winning Album of the Year and her genuine reaction.
  • [42:03] “No, she finally won album of the year.” (Jacob)
  • [42:21] “Why… I think that was a genuine reaction.” (Monét)
• Deep dives into SZA’s record-breaking career: “She just beat Michael Jackson again…” (Monét) [44:09]
• Mariah Carey retaking the music record for “All I Want for Christmas Is You” after briefly losing it to Lil Nas X.
  • [45:27] “The torch… The torch is back in her hand.”

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15. Space in 2025: Katy Perry, Gayle King & Other Celebrities Become ‘Astronauts’

• Mockery and amazement at Katy Perry and Gayle King’s spaceflights, poking fun at celebrity space culture and public backlash.
  • [46:46] “Also the iconic moment in April where Katy Perry became an astronaut. Katy Perry. Gayle King became astronaut.” (Bob)
• Debate if they would go to space; Bob is reluctant due to the Challenger disaster and space sickness.

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16. Wish Upon a Pile (of Shit?)

• Bob reveals that some “shooting stars” are just burning waste shot from the ISS.
  • [48:22] “Did you know that sometimes shooting stars aren’t shooting stars? It’s just coming from…when you look up and you wished…you wished upon a pile of shit.”

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17. Movie Song Oscars & K-Pop Demon Hunters

• Excitement over the “Golden” song from K-Pop Demon Hunters possibly winning the Oscar; lively discussion about the best original songs in film this year.
  • [51:22] “I think Golden’s going to win the Oscar this year.” (Bob)
• Monét fangirls over K-Pop Demon Hunters, expresses anticipation for a sequel and other upcoming pop-culture events in 2026.

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18. Video Game & Marvel Hype (and Fatigue)

• Anticipation for GTA 6, commentary on Marvel’s struggle for soul amid big blockbusters, and Bob’s nostalgia for older superhero films.
  • [52:09] “We’re getting GTA 6 finally.” (Bob)
  • [52:55] “Story be damned… it just looks like this big, massive money machine.” (Bob)

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19. Looking Forward: Podcast Announcements & Projects for 2026

• Teasing new show launches, the return of “Anything You Can Do,” higher production values, and continued weekly Drag Race reviews.
  • [55:06] “We’re filming it for real… we’re bringing back Anything You Can Do but we’re beefing it up.” (Bob)
• Shoutouts to Jacob, Kane, and their team—heartfelt gratitude for eight strong years of Sibling Rivalry.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I would rather eat shit.” – Bob [06:14]
• “Honesty is impressive.” – Monét [00:34 & 30:02]
• “You only get one bite of the apple.” – Monét [05:56]
• “No, not me, honey, what? Juice from my man. I’m clean, honey.” (on accidental feces consumption) – Monét [09:48]
• “I got that year round shit.” – Bob, on depression [13:45]
• “You owe me more, so there’s no me paying you.” – Bob, on podcast bets [21:56]
• “If you’re a flight attendant and willing to bring your uniform to my hotel, please DM me.” – Bob [36:52]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [00:26] – Looking back on 2025 begins
• [06:08 – 10:03] – The polar plunge vs. eating shit debate
• [10:12 – 12:16] – Letter grades for 2025 & previous “A” years
• [13:45] – Year-round depression, Portland depression story
• [20:25] – Arguments over who owes money to whom
• [27:30] – Who actually checks voicemail? Studio poll
• [36:30] – Hookup tales, attraction to flight attendants
• [37:46] – “The Traitors” reflections
• [40:17] – TV/streaming residuals and industry talk
• [42:03] – Beyoncé’s overdue Album of the Year Grammy
• [51:22] – Oscars predictions for film songs
• [52:09] – Anticipation for GTA 6 and Marvel talk
• [55:06] – Announcements for new podcast and show projects

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Tone, Language, and Vibe

The episode is packed with Bob and Monét’s signature mix of fast-paced, irreverent, and deeply personal banter. They alternate between playful shade, honest vulnerability, and sharp pop culture commentary. They are unafraid to get gross, silly, and surprisingly insightful—all in the same breath.

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Final Thoughts

Fans of Sibling Rivalry will find this a classic, wide-ranging episode shining with both nostalgia and forward-looking excitement. Newcomers will get a strong sense of the duo’s unique chemistry, comedic style, and their take-no-prisoners approach to pop culture, friendship, and self-reflection.

Transcript

[A]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[B]

And I'm Monet x James.

[A]

And this is sibling rivalry.

[B]

On this week's episode, Bob contemplates taking a polar plunge.

[A]

We look back on the year 2025.

[B]

And we find out what made Bob say this.

[A]

I would rather eat sh. And we find out made Monet say this.

[B]

Honesty is impressive.

[A]

Hey, y'. All. You can come see me, Bob the Drag Queen, on Broadway starting January 27th seventh at the AL Hirschfeld Theater in the amazing show Moulin Rouge.

[B]

Rouge. If Jacob was here. How the fuck would you.

[A]

We wouldn't do our podcast at all if Jacob wasn't here. We can't do our podcast at all without Jacob. I'm very grateful that he's here. Anyway, you can get [e-mail] and I'll be playing Harold Zidler. What are you up to, Monet?

[B]

I am doing the High Heels Bad Knees tour. I am coming across America to different cities. You can go to monashade.com to get tickets and come see me in my High Heels, Bad Knees, Stand up tour. I'm very proud of this material. I think it's some really funny stuff, and I can't wait for people to come see it.

[A]

Have you thought about High Hopes, Bad Attitude?

[B]

That song High High Hopes, no limit. Who sings it? Panic at the Disco. Yeah, Panic at the Disco. They just take songs and they, like, pitch it up, Right?

[A]

So Panic at Disco is one person. I found this out.

[B]

Wasn't it a band?

[A]

It used to be a band, and now it's just the guy.

[B]

But it was a band.

[A]

Yes, it was. Yes, it was. It's now the Guy I die, man. You people ever heard of. And they did. Into the Unknown.

[B]

Yeah, but I mean, after Adina. Yeah.

[A]

There's all. Every Disney. So all the Disney movies, they do a pop cover of.

[B]

Of all Disney songs.

[A]

No. Every Disney movie, they take one song from the show and they do a pop cover. So that's why Celine Dion sang Beauty and the Beast. That's why Vanessa Williams sang not Colors of the Wind.

[B]

Colors of the Wind? No. Cause she. No, she sang the original in the one that's in the movie.

[A]

No, she does not sing that.

[C]

They play it during the credits of the movie.

[B]

Yeah, okay. It's in the credits.

[A]

And they had Demi Lovato do Let It Go, right?

[B]

Did she? Well, you know, Disney did that whole album where it was Tori Kelly, Irena Grande. They all redid remade Disney songs.

[A]

Yeah, I remember that because I can't remember who did King like? Me. A man like you.

[B]

It was good.

[A]

Ooh.

[B]

I want to be like. Yeah.

[A]

Who was it? It was.

[B]

I forget who it was.

[A]

I can't remember.

[B]

It was good though.

[A]

But yeah. So they always have some major celebrity or some sort of a pop vocalist do that. Fallout.

[B]

Fallout Boy.

[A]

Fallout Boy. That was so. Yeah. Panic at the Disco.

[C]

I think the Jonas Brothers maybe.

[A]

Panic at the Disco did the one for Frozen two.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

Wait, did you tell that Zootopia is outselling for good?

[B]

Let me tell you something. Zootopia. Zootopia1 the OG is one of my favorite anime movies of all time.

[A]

I don't know. Zootopia went this hard. I've never seen it. People are going crazy for Zootopia too.

[B]

It's so good.

[A]

It might end up being one of the highest selling movies of the year. I don't think it's gonna outdo Sinners because I think Sinners is the highest selling movie.

[B]

I, Michael B. Jordan and Ryan Coogler win at the Globes. The. I know they got. I know they got nominated for Globes. They haven't dropped Oscars yet, right? I don't think so, no. Yeah.

[A]

But I could see Coogler winning for a film. I don't know if I could see Michael B. Jordan considering because I feel like those kind of movies, those kind of actors in those movies don't normally win. Like scary movies, action films, they don't normal. The actors don't normally win Oscars for that.

[B]

They do sometimes Weather Conduct Forever got nominated. It was like. Oh my God. Was it an Oscar nod for actors? Yeah. Not actors for. For the film. No, no. Angela. Angela Bass was nominated for supporting. Yeah. For Oscar work.

[A]

But yeah. So right now Zootopia is clocking in at $1,136,670,004. And for good is on the list.

[B]

It's not in the top 10. Wait, what is this for the year? What is this? What is this?

[C]

Highest grossing film.

[A]

So I guess is it high grossing film 2025? Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. It's not up there.

[C]

I don't think it is. It was maybe. I think For Good had the highest grossing opening weekend.

[A]

Maybe there's no way.

[B]

For Good is not one of the. I just don't. And the number one spot is a movie called Nature by Beijing and Light.

[A]

And it was.

[C]

It was a huge hit in China and Asia. But it didn't make the crossover to the US it kind of flopped when the US Version came out.

[B]

I mean, Asia for Good.

[A]

It did double zootopia.

[B]

Everybody said double zootopia. That's crazy.

[A]

2,250,000,693.

[B]

You know, yesterday, and we were talking about. I don't know how we're talking about India. And Andy was like.

[A]

He says.

[B]

I was like, what? He was like, well, you know, India is about the size of America. And I was like. And I was like. I knew that wasn't right. I was like, really? And we're talking. I was like. I was like, I know they have one point something billion people. So no population.

[A]

They are way. It's the most populated country in the world.

[B]

But I was like, in terms of the size. And I was like, there's no way. And then as we were talking, I was like, Andy, there's no way. There's no way. India is.

[A]

It's about half a size America. Yeah, about half. Australia is almost big. Almost the exact same size. I think. I think the largest country is Russia. And I'm pretty sure the second largest country is Canada. Oh, Canada. As far as. As far as land. Land mass goes. But I think Russia is the. The largest country by land mass. And I'm pretty sure that Canada's number two. And I think that. Yeah, Russia. Oh, Antarctica, technically. Is that Antarctica country?

[B]

No. Bob, should we go? Should we go? Should we enter? Can I finish? Go ahead. Should we go to my Auntie Annie in my aunt.

[A]

Antarctica. I would love to go to your aunt's house. I don't have any desire to be in Antarctica.

[B]

So cold. I mean, you and I, we. We have to go. We have to do that little polar plunge thing. We will not be doing that. Bob. You live once, girl, you got to like, just try stuff out. You leave. You get one bite of the apple.

[A]

You have to try something you want.

[B]

To do or something like that.

[A]

Well, Monet, eat. Eat a piece of shit. You got to try. No, you got to try. You have to try stuff out.

[B]

I want to go to Antarctica, girl. Come on now.

[A]

My desire to eat shit is similar to my desire to do an Antarctic plunge.

[B]

Okay, if you had a gun to head, which one are you doing?

[A]

Eating the shit.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. A spoonful versus jumping in the Antarctic depths of those waters. One, I cannot swim. Two, I don't like the cold. I would rather eat.

[C]

You would have a life vest in this scenario.

[A]

Like you would be. I don't want to do it.

[B]

They connect you to a robe.

[A]

I. Yeah. I feel like no one's listening to me.

[B]

Let's. Let's. To quote you, let me Be clear.

[A]

Let me be clear.

[B]

You have a gun. There is. Hold on.

[A]

You don't even have to cock the gun. There is a revolver. You won't even get the gun put on my head before I'm like, okay.

[B]

How big is the spoon? Like a tablespoon or like a ladle?

[A]

Okay, this is.

[B]

Okay, I'm telling you. This is a ladle.

[A]

This is. Now you doing too much.

[B]

It's a ladle packed with dog feces. They said you ate this ladle. Or jump in the Antarctic cold.

[A]

How long you got to be in the water?

[B]

It's literally you.

[A]

I'm just getting specifics.

[B]

It seems the whole ordeal maybe lasts maybe. Maybe 10 seconds.

[A]

How long am I in the. I'm in the water for 10 seconds.

[B]

Yeah. Like, you jump in, and they pull you right back out. This is a little picture.

[A]

What am I wearing?

[B]

I think you wear a bathing suit.

[A]

Jesus. Am I jumping? Because I've seen. Cause I believe that Marty Go Cummings did it. Yeah, she did do it, but she jumped through ice. Like, she was.

[B]

I didn't see that one.

[A]

Maybe I made that part up.

[B]

No, girl.

[A]

I feel like they cut a hole in the ice and she jumped through it. Girl.

[B]

If the tide takes you on into. Marty's gone forever in Antarctica.

[A]

Well, she's on. According to you. I don't think. I don't think there's a tide. I think they would do it in a place that doesn't have a strong tide.

[B]

But I think when you. When. When you. So I. I'm, not, you know, super versed in ice plunging and ice fishing, but I think you can't control the current is under there.

[A]

Like. Well, ice fishing is usually on a lake, and there's no currents in lakes.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

There's no tide at a lake. So typically, spe. Ice fishing is done on a lake.

[B]

Have you ever seen.

[A]

Have you ever walked on a lake, A frozen lake?

[B]

No, and I would never. When I see people do that shit, I'm like, how do you. Are y' all fucking ice experts? Like, how do you know? I'm sure there are ways to tell, because people who are. Who do this, they can tell, but I would never trust it.

[A]

When I lived in Minneapolis, I did walk on a lake. And, I mean, I saw a car on there, so I was like, I'm good.

[B]

You saw what? A car. Oh, okay.

[A]

Someone drove their car onto the lake. There was a car on the lake.

[B]

What if that car was when the bow broke?

[A]

It didn't. I walked on and I walked Off.

[B]

Got it. Have you ever seen those really. Those really, really, really dope reels?

[A]

But if it's a ladle versus jumping in. But then I have to. Then I have to, like, be out there in a bathing suit. Oh, how big is this ladle? Ladle. He ate up.

[B]

You remember that mercy song? He ate up on the ladle, the ladle, the ladle. And ate him on the ladle. And his name was Nathan.

[A]

Dumb. No. Okay. If it's a. If it's a. If it's a. A like a kitchen spoon, I'd rather eat the kitchen spoon. If it's a ladle, I'd rather jump in the lake.

[B]

It's a ladle.

[A]

I would like to. I would like to take the chicken, take the spoon, and then scrub it so that's flat. My desire is to scoop up the shit, flatten it out, and then. Can I put sugar on it now?

[B]

With sugar?

[A]

Can I chase it?

[B]

Yes, you can chase it.

[A]

I'm going to chase it with lemon. With lemon. With lemon juice.

[B]

But I want. I want to taste it with Clorox.

[A]

That's dangerous. I would chase it with lemon juice to kill the taste. And.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, here's the thing. Here's the real tea, okay? For all you motherfuckers out there, if you were eating booty.

[A]

I've probably eaten something before.

[B]

You've absolutely eaten shit before.

[A]

So, like. And all you feel. No, not me, honey. What?

[B]

I. Juice from my man. I'm clean, honey. But no, there is still fecal matter and shit. There's no way.

[A]

Can we not. Can we not. There is no. Can we move on? I'm, like, getting ill. Can we. I beg of you, if you could ever do anything kind.

[B]

Can we move on, Bob? Okay, overall, if you had to give your 2025 A grade, you're giving your 2025 A grade. A letter grade.

[A]

What.

[B]

What grade is 2025 getting for you?

[A]

Well, I gotta compare it to some other years, right? 2020 is getting a solid four.

[B]

Bitch. A letter grade. Who you get a four. That was rude.

[A]

That was rude. That was rude. That was pretty fucking rude. 2020 is getting a D. Okay? For me, personally, 2024 is getting an F. Yeah. I would give 2025 a C plus, maybe a B minus.

[B]

Okay. Yeah, for me, I would say I'm in the realm of A. I'm about to save a page. Actually. I'm getting a. I'm getting. I don't know how to train this year, but yet. Doing trainers. But now I'M gonna see it in 26. So I think seen it is obviously the thing. You're like, oh, I got to finally see this thing I did. So I'm gonna give 20, 25. I got engaged this year. Okay. A B. I give 2025 a B minus.

[A]

Okay. Yeah. I mean, what year gets an A?

[B]

A would have to be. I would say A is 2019. Let's say it was a great year. I won Drag Race that year. I had exchange rate that year. I did a lot of really amazing touring that year. I think that was the year I paid off my grandmother's car. So 20. I think that was a. That was like, oh, my God. I felt like that year. It was a year that kept on g. Every time was a really amazing opportunity thing.

[A]

2016 and 2018 were both A's for me. I won drag race in 2018, and I kind of became 2016, I mean, and I started traveling. 2018 was a great year. I was in Berkeley. I met Jacob. I got back into theater after not doing it for almost 10 years. But I don't think 2025 was as good as those years for me.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

But it wasn't. But it's. But it's not been terrible. I mean, we. I feel like we went through a lot of really crummy years, but also, I think I'm kind of grading on a. On a. On a sliding scale now, because 2020 was so crummy.

[B]

Right.

[A]

That I. I'm appreciating. It's like in New York City when it finally gets warm and it's like 60 degrees, and you're like, baby, I'm wearing shorts.

[B]

Pull a plunge, honey. Exactly.

[A]

I'm gonna put a tank top because you've lived through this. Horrid. I think it snowed in New York, by the way.

[B]

Wait, what do you mean?

[A]

I think New York got its first snow.

[B]

Oh, yeah, girl. They said this year, 2026. The winter 2025, 26 is going to be brutal for New York. Just in time to welcome the Ice Queen back home. It's going to be a brutal year. This is going to be cold as fuck.

[A]

I've lived through. I got to say. Is this crazy? I just got so used to the New York wind. I lived there through the worst snow, the worst winter on record in, like, 100 years. Apparently, you were there, too. It was like 2014, maybe 2013, something like that. And I just got through it. Something. I just got so used to the New York City winter that I was like, when it came around, I was kind of annoyed, but I was like, it kind of is what it is. I got to the point where I just don't mind the New York City winters for some reason.

[B]

Yeah, again, we talked about this. Since moving here. I think my blood is thin Again, if I had to live through it, obviously I can. The cold's not gonna kill me, it's not gonna break me. But if I can choose, bitch, hell, the f. Adventure does break people. Oh, yeah, for sure.

[A]

I've also never really had seasonal depression. I got that year round shit.

[B]

No, I definitely go through. I get seasonal depression for sure. It started when I moved to, when I lived in Portland for those for that time. Because Portland, it is so gray and it gets so dark so early, blah, blah, blah. I was like, and it's so cold and dreary. I think that's where my seasonal depression was birthed was when I lived in Portland. I was like, oh, this is a real thing.

[A]

Do you still have it here in la?

[B]

I do find myself in the winter.

[A]

Because it is December 15th right now. It is warm outside.

[B]

It is warm. But the getting dark early really bugs me out. Like when I look up at like 4:00 clock and it's already dark, I'm like, God damn, my day is gone. That's all these y' all niggas that live in Iceland and these countries that. You know this in Scotland.

[A]

You wanted to go to Iceland and.

[B]

I went to Iceland. I mean, I did it for a week. Not for my life. Cause they do that for six months out of the year. Well, you know this in Scotland. I didn't realize that when you film the show Traders, it's summertime and it.

[A]

They get. It's cold, it's cold.

[B]

But why is it more super cold for us? But they get so many hours of daylight. Like it doesn't start getting dark until like about 11:00pm and then the sun rises again about 3:30, 4:00 clock in the morning.

[A]

I could never see myself living in the Scottish Highlands.

[B]

I started keeping Zbiotics pre alcohol on hand anytime I know drinks are on the table, whether it's dinner with friends, a game night, or just relaxing at Bob's studio. Because even when I drink responsibly, I still wanna feel good the next morning. Plants don't stop just because you had a couple the night before.

[A]

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[A]

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[A]

Did y' all have midges? Probably.

[B]

We.

[A]

We were more concerned about the ticks. They were. They were like. They were like the ticks. There are ticks everywhere and they were like the peacocks.

[B]

Did you see the peacocks?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, we got a stern talking to about those peacocks.

[B]

Like to not Touch them.

[A]

Do not. Don't look at them. They were like, this is their house. Like, they live here. They were like, don't talk to them. Don't touch them. Don't feed them. And if they walk by, get out of their way. They were like, you respect these peacocks.

[B]

Well, you know, I. But I'm.

[A]

It's their home.

[B]

Yeah, but you. You know, they have one. They had one by your house in. In New York.

[A]

A peacock?

[B]

Yes. They have one that lives on the street, that lives on the grounds of St. John the Divine.

[A]

Oh, I didn't know. You mean the one over at 106.

[B]

Yeah, 106.

[A]

That big ass. Yeah. I gotta say, I'm not into churches. You gotta go see the church at Amsterdam in 110. It is a stunning church. I think it's the largest cathedral in the northeast.

[B]

Is it really?

[A]

I think it is. And they. And they. And they built it by hand. All those carvings are done by hand. They're still building it. It is the. Is it the large or. It's like the longest built. Something about. There's some. Some record.

[B]

It has.

[A]

And there's this. There's this super weird sculpture outside where they. It's like a. It's like a crab on a. In a giraffe and on an angel's back. And you never seen the sculpture. It's like an angel fighting with a goat. And there's like a crab on it. And there's a giraffe in it. It's like a crazy fucking sculpture.

[B]

Okay, this is.

[A]

I used to go by this sculpture all the time.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Giraffe and an angel. Yeah. Wrestle on a crab. So for our audio listeners. So they're standing on a crab, and there is a giraffe which is kind of fucking a goat that an angel is wrestling.

[A]

That's not. His crotch is way back there.

[B]

I mean, listen, this is clearly some crazy creature. You don't know where his pussy's at or his penises.

[A]

Well, I thought it was. It was a giraffe. And there's like a moon at the bottom.

[B]

Yeah, this is. This seems pretty secular for a church sculpture, right?

[A]

No, there's an angel.

[B]

That's the only thing.

[A]

Like what. This looks like something that would be in the Bible. This one looks this. Like something would be in the Bible.

[B]

This scene. Yeah.

[A]

Girl, have you read Revelations?

[B]

And the Revelations get crazy, crazy.

[A]

And have you seen the way they depict angels?

[B]

I know they're not. They're not pretty.

[A]

Like, it's mad creepy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This Is this is actually more tame than what would be in the Bible. This go.

[B]

We say all this to say at St. John the Divine, this church on 1 10th in Amsterdam in New York City. There are peacocks that live on the grounds there.

[A]

And if you're there, just walk over to Broadway in 110 and have cornet pizza.

[B]

It's great pizza. Oh, my God.

[A]

You going to be giant slices. Huge slices of pizza.

[B]

That is so good. On my life.

[A]

Me and Cracker and Mo used to go there all the time.

[B]

Damn it. No.

[A]

I want to find and then go by the west side Market. Monet. Love that. Monet was obsessed with that.

[B]

Salads were great.

[A]

Monet was obsessed. This is back when Monet tried to convince us she only eats organic. If y' all don't know, by the way, I want my $10 and then in cash.

[B]

And you also owe me $20.

[A]

What is this from? Where's your proof?

[B]

It was. It was because you said on the podcast. And listen. I listened to the episode. You said that I called Darlene a man. And I said I did not call her a man. You said. You said Monet. Yes, you did.

[A]

Rewind.

[B]

I said I did not call her.

[A]

I said a dude.

[B]

Exactly. But I Exactly. I said I did not call her a man. I called her a dude.

[A]

And then we better.

[B]

We bet $20 on it. Show me. It's in the episode. What do you mean show you?

[A]

Because everyone called you out.

[B]

Yeah, and then you owe me $20.

[A]

Because you said I called also Monet X change videos. No, we did not. You owe me money. She crunched the numbers. You owe me at least eighteen hundred dollars. And I'll accept my $10 this very second.

[B]

Joe Jacob's gonna run the.

[C]

Do we say it in the Patreon exclusive one or the public one?

[A]

If you go to their comments, it'll be under the comments. Because everyone kept being like, monetary. Absolutely. You try to gaslight me.

[B]

You guys, let me.

[A]

Do you have $10?

[B]

You owe me. You.

[A]

You are net, Mone. We've crunched the numbers. You owe me money, but you owe me.

[B]

Okay, so then the last thing, I owe you 10, and then you owe.

[A]

Me 20 from the every bet we've made.

[B]

So what about the bet about the $20 about Darlene?

[A]

It's still you owe me over $2,000.

[B]

So now you renigging, nigga.

[A]

No, Monet, you owe me money.

[B]

But we said we're talking about this episode.

[A]

I'm talking about all the money, and I want my cause What I. You is you owe me more, so there's no me paying you, so I. I will accept.

[B]

Oh, so you never. You. You never pay.

[A]

Because, Monet, you're in a deficit right now. I don't owe you anything. You owe me.

[B]

What is this magical number you're talking about, Jacob?

[A]

Go to. Go to. Go to Monet X, Change videos on YouTube. Run to the end of the video and find out how much money Monet owes me. So how do I owe you money? Make it make sense.

[B]

And we never said we're talking over this bad.

[A]

We never said we're starting over.

[B]

I did.

[A]

So I can't. You can't wipe your debt from me. That's not how that works. Did you. Did you call your student loan and say, I've started over? I've decided we're good now? Is that how that works?

[B]

Wait. Wicked Christmas music? Jacob, are you listening to Wicked Christmas music?

[A]

Y', all.

[B]

Y' all's obsession with Wicked needs to be studied again and again.

[A]

Who bought up Wicked here?

[B]

Because I just saw it on the screen.

[A]

You brought up Wicked? Yeah, run it to the end. You were at the video. What happened?

[B]

Oh, was it that.

[A]

It was here. It was. It was right at the top. Or maybe.

[B]

Maybe bets make your way to the top.

[A]

Oh, but type in bets. But. Yeah, you owe me money, and you trying to get $20 of me is some weird extortion that you're not gonna get. You are gonna give me my motherfucking money or I'm gonna beat you up.

[B]

Oh, God. You ever look at. Wait, pause really quick.

[A]

I look.

[B]

I was looking at my old confessionals on Drag Race. The way I allowed myself to go on TV should. It was criminal.

[A]

Well, how did you gonna see me?

[B]

No eyebrows, not a stitch of makeup on.

[A]

What's wrong with no eyebrows?

[B]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[A]

No, no, no, no. What's wrong having no eyebrows?

[B]

I look crazy without any eyebrows. Have my little glasses on, not a stitch of makeup. I look like I would Dee drag the night before and get on for my interviews the next morning. Like, hey, I look haggard. I've been reviewing on my YouTube, reviewing my old drag, my old audition tape, and for my season eight audition tape, I did it at Ms. Cracker's house, at Ms. Cracker's little apartment she had over there on 138th Street. And Bob, I look sad. I look crazy. It looked like I just came from Barracuda or whatever and just was slopping this video together. I was like, no wonder they didn't Pick me. I looked awful.

[A]

I don't remember. I don't think I've seen that video. I think I've watched her.

[B]

You watch all of them?

[A]

All right, skip to the end so we can find out how much Monet owes me.

[B]

You look good here, though.

[A]

Let's get. Let's get the tally. What is this?

[C]

This is a compilation of all the bats.

[B]

This.

[A]

You still owe me money.

[B]

How do I owe you?

[A]

How to get more. Name on a Combat Smash Bros. A Thousand. Pageant Lingerie, Chase Bank Weight. I don't understand. I don't get this. I don't see the final number.

[B]

That is the final number.

[C]

Oh, I mean, I think it's 2000. 1000 for Mortal Kombat. 1000 for Smash Brothers. Whatever. This one is zero.

[B]

We never did the pageant.

[A]

And then where did this negative $10 come from?

[C]

I think it was. She was right about the Chase Bank.

[A]

Well, how do you. What is it? What is that? What does that mean? How does that total.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

No, this mono's Bob. $1,990. And you just lost a $10 bet. So I'll put it up to. I'll put it up to 2,000. And so. And now you tweet. So now we're right back at 990.

[B]

That is incorrect. It'll be $1,980.

[A]

1,990. And then I won 10.

[B]

Okay, so that's 2,000. And then you won 20.

[A]

So.

[B]

We should have bet on that.

[A]

So you owe me 19. 1980. So how. How is. How do you figure I'm going to give you $20 when you owe me $1,980? We did not say that.

[B]

Yes, we did.

[A]

No, we did not.

[B]

In my mind.

[A]

M. You owe me money. This is why. This is why. If you anyone you out there, don't trust this because one you know, she will scam you at DragCon. You scammed that guy at Dragon. He confronted you and the fans cleared you. I'm glad they. They cleared you cleared you.

[B]

This how you act after not see you for so long. You haven't seen me in a week and this how you act when you see me.

[A]

You were ignoring my calls. It was really. I did not.

[B]

I literally called you back the next day. Y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

Here's the thing about Bob the Drag Queen. Bob will call you and you miss a call. You call Bob back. He does not answer the phone. And then Bob will call you the next day. Like Monday. What happened? I tried to call you. I Was like, I called you back. He was like, yeah, but I called you and you didn't answer the phone. I was like, I know. And I called you back. You act like I didn't try to call you back.

[A]

I didn't see the call. Maybe I was on a plane.

[B]

I called you back.

[A]

And then.

[B]

You can't leave Bob a voice note because for the past 15 years, his voicemail has been full.

[A]

Who checks voice notes? Who checks voicemails?

[B]

Literally, who.

[A]

Do you check voicemails, Kane?

[C]

I read them now.

[A]

Have you checked. Do you check voicemails?

[C]

Yes, girl.

[A]

Yes. I have not checked the voicemail.

[B]

Just go and delete everything.

[A]

No, I don't even know how to. I don't even know how to check my voicemails. I literally. I genuinely do not remember how to check voicemails. I remember when we got visual voicemails and I was so happy.

[C]

You call your number.

[A]

I call my own phone number.

[B]

Well, on iPhone, it's just a voicemail app.

[A]

I don't know, there's a voice note app, but you have to like log into it or something.

[C]

It's like a four digit code.

[A]

I don't. Yeah, I don't. I have not. I have not checked a voicemail in literally in years.

[B]

Can you talk? Can you. Can you talk?

[A]

Send a voice. Now you can literally send a voice note.

[C]

It's been full since we started dating.

[B]

Literally. Girl. It's because I've known Bob. His voice has been full.

[A]

Just send a voice note. Why you don't read your text messages. Thank you. But I listen to the voice notes. I listen to every voice note I've ever been sent. That's. So if you. Why do we even still have voicemail if you can literally just send a voice note?

[B]

Because sometimes. Okay, because. Because if someone is calling that doesn't text you, then they leave a voicemail after they've called.

[A]

Like, if people do not check voicemails, comment below, Comment below. If you do not check voicemails, people don't check voicemails.

[B]

Okay, comment below. If you do check your voicemails and.

[A]

How old are you? Only person who I check my voice are my uncles and my aunts. No one else in my life checks their voicemails.

[B]

Yeah, Jacob, can we post a poll to the Patreon, please?

[A]

I have to know, like, who's checking voicemails?

[B]

I'm checking my voicemail.

[A]

I want to tell you. In years. I have not.

[B]

We know.

[A]

I used to get visual voicemails. I used to read my only People to see me were my mom and fucking Jack. One.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

And the two people, they're all full of Jacqueline and my mom's voicemail, and they're gone now. So there's no one else to send voicemails to me. There is no one else to send voicemails to me.

[B]

Okay, so we're both gonna be here. So we. So people listening to. Is this episode coming out on New Year's Eve?

[C]

Yeah, that's the plan.

[B]

So you're gonna be in town? I'm gonna be in town.

[A]

Nick's gonna be in town.

[B]

Nick Smith is gonna be in town. She would do a big, like, New Year's Eve party. I'm so mad you guys missed the engagement party. It was really lovely. It was really lovely.

[A]

Must have been nice.

[B]

We dressed up the whole house. It was catered. We had a bartender.

[A]

It was really.

[B]

Taylor told me it was really fun.

[A]

Kane, did you enjoy the party? Oh, wasn't invited.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

So no one in this room was invited?

[B]

I just didn't even think to invite.

[A]

Hey, and we know you didn't think to invite any. The people that you see at work all the time. You didn't think to invite any of them.

[C]

Did you invite Jay Defeo?

[B]

No.

[A]

Did Nate have fun at the party?

[B]

Nate was not in town.

[A]

Oh, was he invited, though?

[B]

He was not in town.

[A]

Oh, you didn't know that?

[B]

I didn't know that.

[A]

You didn't know that. You found out the day before.

[B]

No, that's not true. Cause Kane knows, like, two weeks ago, we were doing the podcast. I was like, what are y' all doing for the Christmas?

[A]

So you asked him what he was doing, you heard that Kane was free, and you still didn't invite him?

[B]

No, because I think in my mind, I thought they were both going to New York for the thing, but you.

[A]

Think the camera was gonna run themselves.

[B]

But you're staying here.

[A]

You thought the can was gonna run themselves.

[B]

So Kane is in. So Kane can't live his life once we're recording a podcast. Kane has to stay in la.

[A]

Cain works. And Kane is so professional that he schedules his trips out of town around wherever I live.

[B]

But it's a holiday, so make some concessions for your employees, bitch.

[A]

Kane wanted to be here. Okay, but I'm saying.

[B]

But let's say Kane wanted to go to New York with you.

[A]

He's not allowed to. Might.

[B]

So what should we do? Like, should we do an extravaganza for New Year's Eve? So last year, for New Year's Eve, I.

[A]

You got that from me.

[B]

What?

[A]

That thing you do with your voice. You wanna be me. So badass. It's kind of crazy. Last year you never did that before you met me.

[B]

You make me sick.

[A]

Last year, that's literally the way you.

[B]

Think the world revolves around crazy. Do you wanna eat anything about nachos? The way you think the world of war is around you? Honestly, it's impressive. Different times to be that naive.

[A]

Different times when I was on topic before the ad break.

[B]

That would be great. I've been trying.

[A]

There have been times when I've gone back to eat my nachos and they were just gone.

[B]

Like, the way you think the world revol. The way you think you are the center of the universe is insane. So last year, I don't know what it did. I think Andy and I. No, last year Andy and I, we went to a park. No, I don't know what I did last year. What did you do last year?

[A]

We were in Mexico. You were invited and you chose not to come. That is actually true. That is true. That's not even a bit. You said you didn't want to come.

[B]

I really need to find out what I did last year. Sorry, I gotta find out. I'm gonna call it.

[A]

Well, while you do it, we're gonna take a break.

[B]

Let's take a break. Foreign.

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[B]

What did y' all do when y' all went to PVD jail? Like, watch the ball drop? Did y' all go to a restaurant?

[A]

We went to dinner, and then we went to the strip club. No, the strip club was the night before we went to dinner. Then we went to the. To the. To the clubs. Like, just to go to the regular clubs. And the strip clubs were the night before.

[B]

The strippers in pv, they are aggressive. Girl, they will. They. They. They will together. Do you know they close on. Did you go to the really seedy one across the bridge?

[A]

We did not.

[B]

Okay, that one is.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

But that one's shut down now.

[A]

I found one where they knew who I was, and they were going to treat us nicely.

[B]

The wet dreams one with the water.

[A]

I. No, we went to one next door to that one.

[B]

Next. Okay.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, the one just past it.

[B]

That one, they're doing, like. They're doing, like, stunts and acrobats at that one.

[A]

We there. So there's. There's one that's upstairs. It's, like, bluish and, like. Like, really overly lit. Went up there. We didn't like it. We went to the wet one. The dancers there were too aggressive. And then the one in the middle, it was just right. And I love that. When I was the madam, I was living my dreams.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

So d. I would sit there and be like, who do you want? And I would take money, and I would go to get the dancer and be like, you're from my friend Mateo. You're for.

[B]

Mateo indulged.

[A]

Yeah. Nick did not indulge. Mateo indulged. But Mateo ended up. He said that in his special. You should go watch his special. But he literally ends up. He literally ends up, like, talking to the guy about his candle business. Like, we send Mateo over to get a lap dance, and then we look back, and they're sitting side by side, and he's telling Mateo about his candle business.

[B]

That's hilarious. Yeah. Wait, why? So does Nick do dances make Nick uncomfortable?

[A]

I just feel like he likes it.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

I just think he's just not into it. So. But he'll. But he'll. He's not, like, a grumpy. He's enjoying his time, but he's just not. He's just on his phone, and he's, like, making jokes and stuff.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

Like, it's also like, he doesn't like the dancing clubs either. So he was just like, so what the.

[B]

So, so Nick is so.

[A]

No, but he's having fun, though. Like, we went to the party, and so Mitch really wanted to go to this, like, bear in space bear kind of party. It was like, it was like hairy guys. It was all hairy guys and harnesses and stuff. So we go upstairs, and Nick and Jacob are just over to the side. And then Mikey's like, I want to go into the club. So we, We, Me and Mikey go in and we're, like, having fun. And then we. Mitch. Mitch is getting sworn. Mitch is very hot. They all want their. Put their hands on him. He, he looks like all the guys in there, right? And then at one point, I, I.

[B]

I go scratch it.

[A]

It's fine. And then one point, I look back at Mikey, and then Mikey shirtless. And then. Yeah, well, Mikey. Mikey went to go, like, check his clothes, and then I was like, oh, shit. Mikey's. It was like, it was like, it was like, literally like, Like I look and he was dressed, and I look back and he, like, checked his clothes, and I was like, oh, shit. So then me and Jacob and Nick ended up sitting in the corner, and I went, I was like, bouncing back and forth and then. But then it was like we were too close to the smoking section, so I got too smoky.

[B]

Where was Mato?

[A]

Mato? He didn't really love that club so much, so. Because before that, we were karaoke. We, we had, like, taken over this karaoke bar, and we were all doing performances, y', all such of Disney songs.

[B]

You even, Even.

[A]

But Mitch didn't love the karaoke, but he still, he was. Everyone there was a good sport, Even if, even if it was something they didn't love. Everyone is a pretty good sport for the most part.

[B]

See, on shows like that. I will Irish goodbye the group. I will Irish goodbye everyone. Because I just, like, if I like, find a hookup or something and then.

[A]

You can go hook up. You can go hook up. Okay, but I'm saying, but you would, like, leave if you didn't want to do what the group is doing?

[B]

No, no, no. I'll do what the group is doing. But let's say, like, the group wants to stay out until 4, 4am or like 5am and I'm tired by two other guys. I'm out.

[A]

No, that's fine. We did that too. I ended up hooking up this guy, but he wasn't Mexican.

[B]

I think he's from, like, Portland he's from Portland. He's from Puerto Rican.

[A]

He's Puerto Rican. He was this guy from, like, this. This, like, random guy from Portland that I. That I was talking to.

[B]

And so I went to PV for Thanksgiving. I went with. Dejuan invited me to go. And dejuan's friends were all. Dejuan has these other friends that he's met. Cause dejuan goes to PV three or four times a year. These other guys he met in pv, and one was celebrating her birthday, and it was like, a bunch of these, like, hot black gay guys who are all flight attendants in PV flight.

[A]

I want to hook up with a flight attendant so bad. They're so hot.

[B]

Everyone was very beautiful.

[A]

And the Delta flight attendants, those guys are wearing slutty, slutty clothes.

[B]

Shout out.

[A]

They always look so slut in. I don't know what it is, but I feel like every man who works for Delta has that big fat ass. And they are always so attractive.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

God, I want to hook up with a flight attendant.

[B]

These were not.

[A]

If you're a flight attendant and you're willing to bring your out your uniform to my hotel, please DM me work.

[B]

Please DM me role play. So y' all were sitting on the bed, and he's like, you want some peanuts, sir?

[A]

And I'll say, can I move seats? And I'll be like, can you please not wake me up when I'm sleeping?

[B]

And so we're there, and it was a really good time. We were going out, like, every night. It was a really fun time. But, yeah, like, that was a big group of people, but everyone was kind of doing their own thing. It was nice to be.

[A]

Let's talk about the year 2020. 2025. So we're kicking off our 2025 and our 2026 in very similar ways. We're both having our seasons of the Traders premiere in the early year.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How was. How was you? How was your experience? I'm excited to have the experience that you had. Watching you on The Traitors in 2026.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

How was it for you watching it in 2025?

[B]

I love to get all interviewy. It's like. It's like Gail King's question. I love. Tell me more about how was that for you. Traitors was fun. I've said this in many interviews.

[A]

Yo, watching me, bitch. Watching me.

[B]

Oh, watching you do Traitor.

[A]

We're talking about 2025, your experience.

[B]

Oh, got it. That's what you're saying. It was great. You know, I love watching you on tv. You're very funny. Bob is obviously a very dynamic person. And you had some of my favorite song by 20th, one that people don't talk about, which I don't understand why I thought it was hilarious when y' all were doing the thing where you had to take the big statues. Statues of the hill, and then you said to. What's the name of the black girl?

[A]

Robin.

[B]

No, not Robin. Danielle.

[C]

It was.

[A]

Oh, Ciara.

[B]

Ciara. You like. I think you said something to her, girl. People are saying your name and she was. And she was like, for real? You're like, yes, bitch. And you just walk on the thing. I thought that was hilarious.

[A]

They didn't air, but I was doing this thing where I was like. I was like. Like, I got so tired because those things are really heavy. Like, really, like y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

The. The challenges on Traders are actually quite physical.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

They weren't made of stone, but they were really heavy. And I thought. I just sat down and I just looked straight into the camera. There was a cameraman focused on me, and I was like, I can't remember what I was saying, but I remember it was like, some really funny stuff about the Faithfuls, and I was trying to give them clues and give them hints and actually help them, but no one was listening to me. I don't know if that footage is ever going to be going to surface, but it was really, really funny.

[B]

Yeah. So it was great watching you on the show. And what really made me, like, what really got me in my head, I was like, I wish they would put us on the show together. I wish you not on the show together.

[A]

All Stars.

[B]

All Stars, Traders, All Stars.

[A]

You never know.

[B]

You never know. But, yeah, so it was great watching you. And now you get. No, no, we're gonna have, you know, similar to.

[A]

I'm very excited to watch you on the Traitors. It's gonna be really thrilling. I love watching you on tv. I just. I've watched every TV show you've done.

[B]

No. Did you watch Survivors ever?

[A]

I. I didn't. I. I don't even know where to find that.

[B]

It's on YouTube.

[A]

What's on YouTube?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Oh, but I've watched your slumber party. I've watched.

[B]

You want some of the party? You were so grown. What's up, girl? Oh, my God.

[A]

I've watched you the Exchange Rate. I've watched every season of Drag Race you're on. I even watched you on Lovecraft.

[B]

Country. Bring back Lovecraft.

[A]

Can I tell y', all, I stopped after Your episode. I didn't finish the series.

[B]

I don't know the new deal they worked on after the strikes. Have you noticed that residuals have been way better?

[A]

Well, I don't get my checks anymore. I now get them direct deposited. And I don't really check the direct deposits, but I used to get them all. She don't got a check. The direct deposit when I was getting like a dollar twenty. Yes, yes, yes.

[B]

I don't gotta check, but you know, boss, some people need that. You don't even know what the fuck is going in. Is fierce work. Work. That's rich. That's a luxury.

[A]

Well, first of all, my residuals are not that great because I, I, I'm not in. I, I've never been in a major motion picture. Rough night, is it? But it's not, but it's not a block. I've never been like a blockbuster. I've never been like one of these crazy. I think the biggest residual I get is probably from Lucifer. And I feel like I'm, I feel like I'm actually, I get pretty good checks from. Because I did two seasons, two episodes on two different seasons of Black Lady Sketch show.

[B]

Yeah. I get great residuals from Survival. The thickest lovecrack country is great. And again, I was in one episode. It was great residuals. And after midnight.

[A]

Oh, yeah. After midnight. Yeah. And I also get residuals from Survival Thickets too, because they used my song in episode four of season one.

[B]

Oh, did it really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Work. Which one?

[A]

Bitch like me. You ain't never met a bitch like me. You mean when Michelle B Tode is Spoiler. Spoiler. Spoiler.

[B]

It's not a spoiler. Girl. This show is two, three years old.

[A]

I've been getting drags from a spoiler.

[B]

That's crazy. Anyway, but.

[A]

And I think episode four, when, when she, like, breaks up with her boyfriend and she goes in and she goes in to, like, tell him off or take his job or pitch him, and then he was like, trying to use her or something like that where she was leaving. They used my song.

[B]

No, no, that's episode one.

[A]

But it's like down the line. So it was, it was, it was episode one anyway. But yeah, they use my song in there. It was, it was, it was pretty cool.

[B]

Yeah. Wait, Jacob February, Beyonce's Grammy Redemption. She performed at the Grammys?

[A]

No, she finally won album of the year.

[B]

Oh, right, right. And girl, that, that. I feel like that again, talks about that did not get talked about enough either. Her reaction was so funny to me.

[A]

Her like, I mean, she probably was.

[B]

Actually gagged for sure. And I think, again, there's this whole conspiracy. People like, she knew. She knew to get a picture.

[A]

I'm like, why did.

[B]

Why did I understand why there's so much distrust and celebrity and what everything out there? But I'm like, I think that was a genuine reaction. Why? People were like, no, she just putting on girl. She knew. She and J. She and Jay Z called and told them to pick her. I'm like, then they would have done it several years ago.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know if she knew it. It seemed. It seemed genuine to me. I will say this, though, not her best album. I think she should have won for other albums. I would have given it for. To her for. For Beyonce or for Lemonade.

[B]

Interesting. I. I genuinely think A Renaissance is one of her best works. I love her.

[A]

It wasn't Renaissance.

[B]

I know. I know. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Kendrick Bow. Well, you're a huge Kendrick Lamar fan.

[A]

Did you.

[B]

Did you go. You went up my number one artist of the year. Year of this year.

[A]

Yep. I'm so disappointed in myself. Why girl, a sis gender straight man has never made it into my Spotify raps ever. But I was obsessed with. I mean, I'm telling you right now, Kendra Gamar is one of the best performers I've ever seen live. And it's not. And it's not about, like, jumping up and down. His presence is just so good. He connects with the audience in such a way that is so, for lack of better word, cool. It's just really cool. He knows what he's doing. His connection to his music is so fierce. Every time he left the stage, I kept just being like, please. Like, I can't wait for Kendrick to come back. Like, I cannot wait for any. The crowd is going.

[C]

What was happening on stage when he was off?

[B]

Just like. Just like singing and stuff, which is so crazy because I genuinely feel my brother was. It was.

[A]

Was. Was rooting for Sza and I was rooting for Kendrick, which is hilarious.

[B]

Yeah. That's how I feel about Beyonce. I think she's a very magnetic performer. And I know you gotta. Whatever because. Whatever. I. I genuinely feel that about Sza. I've seen Sizzling concert four times now, and every time, I think her connection to her music and her song people also, she's breaking so many records. She just beat Michael Jackson again for the most something because she has most.

[A]

Moonwalks, most cross grabs.

[B]

She has 13.

[A]

Most Jerry curls.

[B]

He has 13. Not number ones. Oh, she has 13 things and he has 12. She just like, she's such a prolific artist and I feel like we're not gonna realize how fucking fierce Sza was until it's too late. And that's the part that really drives me crazy.

[A]

You know, I go crazy for Ms. Mariah Carey who has more, I think the most number ones.

[C]

Sorry, this is breaking news. So Mariah, this is.

[A]

Oh yeah, well, wait, sorry, sorry.

[B]

Jacob, go ahead.

[C]

Lil Nas x Old Town Road beat out All I want for Christmas is you for longest running history music in history. And she did this tweet but she.

[A]

Is sending love and crest l Nas X breaking one of the longest running records in music history. We've been blessed to hold this record with a long. With a song that means a great deal to boys to men, who I believe wrote her song they were all over and myself has touched so many. I don't know, I don't actually know they wrote maybe Boys and Men had it for another song. Maybe it went from Boys to men. Maybe it went from boys to men to Mariah Carey to Lil Nas X. But Mariah Carey is so, she's like. That's so fucking sweet for her to do that. She's, she's.

[B]

Wait, hold on.

[C]

So the news today is that she's actually. The song has come back and it has now re beaten that record. So she's number one again. And this is what she tweeted.

[B]

The torch.

[A]

Torch is back in her hand.

[B]

Yeah. So, so, so what were you saying, Bob? Finish that sentence.

[A]

I love this woman. You better wear those capios.

[B]

I know.

[A]

You better wear them Gopizios, honey. Kim, Mariah, say the N word.

[B]

Yes, that's what I say. Yeah, she's a black woman. I feel like, you know, people like, like light skinned black people who are white passing. Whatever, whatever you want to say, say. I really. It really bothers me when people police. Police people's rights.

[A]

Can Candace Owen say it?

[B]

Yeah. She's black. I wouldn't like it. I would feel weird. I would feel itchy, I would probably throw up. But she is well within her right as a black person to say it. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, yeah.

[B]

Oh, God, don't bring this up. Well, she's actually really niggerish. The Coldplay incident this year. You remember the Coldplay thing?

[A]

Yeah, the Coldplay where they caught that CEO cheating on his wife.

[B]

It was the woman from heading human resources. Who was it?

[A]

Wait, was she the CEO or was he the CEO?

[B]

He was the CEO and she was someone in the Company as well.

[A]

Girl. Honestly, Coldplay is so real for that. I know they didn't do it on purpose, but that's just so funny because they were, like, leaning into it.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Also the iconic moment in April where Katy Perry became an astronaut. Katy Perry. Gayle King became astronaut.

[B]

And the Internet was mad. People were mad that Katy Perry and gay went into space. Who are the other ladies? There were other ladies, too.

[A]

They were astronauts.

[B]

No, there were other celebrities.

[A]

There were some celebrities, but they were like. How many people was it. It was.

[B]

It was.

[A]

But there were, like, three astronauts up there actually. Like, I mean, Katy Perry is an.

[B]

Astronaut and so is Gayle King, but they had, like, three other celebrities as well. Oh, yeah, right. It was Gayle King. Lauren Sanchez. I don't know who Lauren Sanchez is. Aisha Boy. Amanda Nguyen.

[A]

Nguyen.

[B]

No, it's Gien.

[A]

I don't think you pronounce. Is she Vietnamese? You don't pronounce the. It's Nguyen.

[B]

Oh, okay. Oh, she fancy now.

[A]

Well, I went to school a lot.

[B]

Of Vietnamese people and Carrie Anne Flynn.

[A]

Some of them had to be astronauts. Yeah.

[B]

They couldn't send them all there without. There's no way. Yeah, but the Internet hated that. Katy Perry and these ladies went to space, girl.

[A]

They hated it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. They were only.

[B]

They were only.

[A]

They were the only celebrities up there.

[B]

No, Amanda is an activist.

[A]

Amanda. Oh, activist. Okay. Amanda Wayne is an activist. And Carrie Ann Flynn, as a producer.

[B]

Would you go to space as you got the chance to?

[A]

Well, a little bit. Before I was born, the Challenger exploded, and that kind of freaks me out. I think we passed that technology now. But apparently. Also. Apparently going to space actually makes you sick. Like, but they didn't go. But I think that's like going into space, right?

[B]

They just broke the atmosphere or whatever.

[A]

Yeah, but apparently going into space makes you quite sick.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Did you know that sometimes shooting stars aren't shooting stars? It's just coming from. Yeah, it's literal.

[B]

No, that's.

[A]

No Monet. They take the. When you.

[B]

You freeze it. Yeah.

[A]

And they shoot it back into the Earth's atmosphere and it. And it burns up. Some of the shooting stars are literally just flying pieces of shot. Isn't that crazy? There's been a time where you looked up and you wished. You wished upon a pile of shit. Isn't that insane?

[B]

That is crazy. That's one of my favorite Disney Channel original movies. Wish upon a pile.

[A]

When you wish upon a pile of shit.

[B]

I mean, this was one of my favorite moments from the year K Pop Demon Hunters. It was. It was. It was on my harmonize.

[A]

One. I go. I'll go low, you go high. One, two, two. We're going up.

[B]

What key are we in?

[A]

The one I'm singing. One, two. We're going up, up, up. It's our moment. Okay, now I'll go up.

[B]

We're going.

[A]

Count me in.

[B]

One, two.

[A]

We're going up, up, up. It's our moment. I was just doing the octave up.

[B]

Huh. I don't know how to harmonize. You still never got into gay pop Deeper Hunters, though.

[A]

No, I watched it.

[B]

Oh, you watched it?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You loved it. Yes.

[A]

I gotta say, y' all lived up to the hype. There have been a few moments. There were something like, for example, I want to go see Jacob. You didn't want to come to Jacob's concert yesterday.

[B]

Correct. At Boycottage and Selena City.

[A]

Anyway. But there was this one where they build up this song. This guy was like, building up this song. He was like, this song is great. Everyone goes crazy. And I was thinking myself, he's doing too much. And they did this song.

[B]

Song.

[A]

And it was.

[B]

What song was.

[A]

It's called Hanukkah and Santa Monica. And it was a banger.

[B]

Like, why was it a banger?

[A]

It was. It's just a fun song. It's a really fun song. I was like, oh, everyone's clapping. Offbeat. But they were clapping. I hate when the audience.

[B]

Let me tell you something.

[A]

Let me tell you something. They were dancing. They were dancing.

[B]

Let me tell you something, as someone. As a singer who didn't show choir. And the audience will never. It will never, like, stop choirs, show choirs. Stop asking the audience to clap. It will always be off, and it will never happen. The audience just started clapping.

[A]

They were dancing.

[B]

The audience just started clapping.

[A]

Spontaneously just started clapping.

[B]

Not simultaneously. What the word I'm looking for.

[C]

Spontaneously.

[B]

Spontaneously.

[A]

And it was kind of simultaneous. No, it was Bibbletop.

[B]

Yeah. Audience was never, never clapping time. And especially if it's a predominantly white audience. Even if it's not, they would do it on the 1 and 3, not the 2 and 4. Every time.

[A]

They weren't on the 1 and 3. They were just. It was just like. Like there were so many claps that it was like, never not clapping. Because. Because I think what's going on is. Even though the space is not gigantic, it's a pretty big theater. Everyone's not actually hearing it at the same time.

[C]

Right.

[A]

And that split difference can actually be enough to make it like. Like, you know, we're going up, up, up. It's our moment, you know?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Now you invoke this.

[A]

I think, I think Golden's going to win the Oscar this year.

[B]

First song. Okay, sorry. Golden. What else is up there?

[A]

Wicked.

[C]

Sinners.

[B]

Sinners.

[A]

It's going to be either Sinners or Golden. I, I don't think that, I don't think that Wicked will win. It's the original song. You can't win an Oscar for it. And I, I, I don't think that the original songs from Wicked. What? No Place Like Home and Girl in the Bubble are, don't, they don't hold a candle to a single song in, in, in, in K Pop.

[B]

I would say golden. I say golden.

[A]

I mean, I mean this song was a massive cultural moment.

[B]

I can't wait for this for the first for K Pop. De Hunters too. I'm so excited about it.

[A]

They'. Too.

[B]

No, but they are, they said they're working on, but they haven't announced the name or anything like that.

[C]

It's coming out in like 2029 or something.

[B]

Which by the way, can I tell you. 2020, 2026. I am so excited for the video games coming out. We have some really great video games coming out.

[A]

We're getting GTA 6 finally.

[B]

I don't, I don't know, I don't play that.

[C]

But we are.

[B]

Yes. Yes.

[A]

Really? Is it real? They've been saying it for every year.

[B]

Every year though, right? There's so many good video games.

[A]

You remember when they kept teasing Breath of the Witch while I don't even know.

[C]

November 19th is the current date. So end of 2026.

[B]

But yes. Damn, that's so damn far. Also, 2026, they're bringing back a lot. It's going to be a big year for Marvel. Marvel is like, okay, we're sorry. We got rid of Jonathan Majors and we try to ride the wrongs of our past. 2026 is a lot of great action. Do you like action movies?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What was the hype like?

[A]

I like them. I gotta say, I watched one of the Avengers and it kind of turned me off on one. The one where Spider man grabs a Captain America shield where he flies in.

[B]

That's Civil War, I think.

[A]

And the, and the, and Ant man was on the Civil War and I just thought to myself, like, I don't think I like these movies like I used to. They're something that they've kind of lost their soul or they're just, it just looks like this big, massive money machine and they're just like, how many. How many celebrities can we cram into it, story be damned? And, and there's something about, like, the first X Men and the Batman with Heath Ledger. And those movies were just so. They were just so good. And I feel like now it's just like there. It's like a copy. It's like a Mad Libs almost. It's like you just. You just fill in the skeleton and make it what it is. And I just find them less impressive, to be honest.

[B]

I gotta say. I don't know if I have the hots like you or you have the hots. I take when it comes to these Avengers movies and, And Marvel movies or dc as if the story is a five. I'm good. I'm going for to see powers and see all, like the people I used to watch in cartoons do their powers on tv.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

But all I really care about.

[A]

I mean, I love that. But we used to watch those, Those movies and they had so many powers in them. But like, can the movie still be good? Like when this big scene and, and, and, and, and Wanda comes in and.

[B]

And, and then in Endgame when all. Everybody.

[A]

And then as soon as she's gone, Captain Marvel comes in. And then as soon as she's gone, t' Challa comes in. As soon as he's gone, Thor comes in. And then as soon as he's gone, Ant man comes in. Then as he's gone, Mickey Mouse comes in. It's. I. It just. It feels like, see? See? See? Whoa. And I'm like, come on, guys. Like, just.

[B]

I like it. I mean, I'm in the theater clapping.

[A]

Like, last time you and I saw one together was Aquaman.

[B]

Man, awful movie.

[A]

Laur, you said I was talking to the whole movie.

[B]

Apparently you were. You were, but you. You were. You were roasting the movie next to me while I'm just trying to enjoy the movie and learn. You're.

[A]

You were laughing. You should have been encouraging me.

[B]

We gotta go.

[A]

Happy to. Happy to. Happy New Year to you all.

[B]

Happy New Year to y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

From the siblings to y'.

[A]

All, y'.

[B]

All, listen, 2026, we ain't slowing down. We have a new season of W coming out.

[A]

We have a new series coming out.

[B]

A new series.

[A]

That's.

[B]

We're filming it for real.

[A]

Yeah, we filming in a couple days. Yeah. Yeah. We've already filmed two episodes.

[B]

We're filming one tomorrow.

[A]

Yeah, I know. That's what I said. Yeah. We're bringing back anything you can do but we're beefing it up.

[B]

Saying it.

[A]

I'm saying it. I said it. I said it.

[B]

Yeah. And then we're doing it way better this time. Bigger budget, really cool stuff. So we're really excited for that to come out on December.

[A]

And I saw that some of you were saying that you miss our Riverside dynamic. Just for nostalgia purposes. Some folks are saying that. But don't worry, you're going to get it when we review All Stars. Because I'll be. Because we'll have episodes that are in person and we'll. Because we. We front a load of those. And then we're also going to be giving you our Weekly thoughts on RuPaul's Drag Race season. 18.

[B]

18. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

So thank you all so much. Happy New Year, y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Thank you all for, for, for making this podcast possible. We are going eight years strong.

[B]

Eight years strong.

[A]

Which I'm really, really proud of us for making it that way. Thank you, Jacob, for helping us out so much. And Kane, Jay DeFeo, Mitch Farino, our management team. Jake slain David Chapantier Kennedy. And Patrick Naomi Smalls. Naomi Smalls for jumping in Selena's titties. Kim Chi for joining us all. People who. All of our guests we've had this year. All of our guests who joined us this year, you've made this podcast. I said, I said Kane. And also Nene and, and, and, and, and Taylor.

[B]

Cause y' all know. Cause y'. All. What y' all don't know is hair in the studio.

[A]

Hair.

[B]

When this bitch gets it all audience. That's why she be put on this. Be performing for the audience more than having.

[A]

I gotta go.

[B]

Bye, everyone. Bye.

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