The One About Armageddon

Summary

Sibling Rivalry Podcast

Episode: The One About Armageddon

Date: August 5, 2024
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob the Drag Queen

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Episode Overview

In "The One About Armageddon," Monét X Change and Bob the Drag Queen, the dynamic duo behind Sibling Rivalry, tackle everything from early morning construction woes and drag queen flexes to doomsday prepping, black cultural identity, and which post-apocalyptic world they’d try to survive in. The episode is classic Sibling Rivalry: equal parts hilarious, irreverent, insightful, and deeply personal, with the hosts’ trademark banter and non-stop digressions. Fans of black culture, pop politics, queer humor, and drag will find plenty to love in this riotous conversation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Construction Drama and Neighborhood Flexes (01:25–07:00)

• Construction Complaints: Monét describes being forced to record at a friend’s house due to early morning construction (as early as 7:05am), debating with Bob about whether that’s legally or morally acceptable.
• Blue Collar Solidarity: Both agree they’re “team blue collar”; Bob jokes about Monét’s supposed anti-union stance.
• Union Credentials: Playful competition over who joined a union first, trading stories of working as actors in New York.
  • “I was part of Local 6 in New York City when I worked at hotels.” – Monét (05:14)
  • “Actors Equity… you had to be part of Equity to work at Jekyll and Hyde Club.” – Bob (05:31)
• Restaurant Audition Anecdotes: Bob recounts auditioning to sing at Ellen’s Stardust Diner and being rejected after singing “Valerie.”

Memorable Quote:
“I auditioned for Ellen Stardust nine years ago... you have to sing two songs... I did ‘Valerie’ by Amy Winehouse. Then he said, thank you, but no thank you.” – Bob (08:35)

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2. Hookup Stories & Grindr Culture (09:39–14:35)

• Atlanta’s Grindr Reputation: The hosts share the unique, sometimes “bottom-shaming” experience of using Grindr in Atlanta.
• Sexcapades & Mishaps: Monét shares a series of recent sexual encounters, including an incident with “numbing dick,” leading to speculation about what could cause a mouth to go numb (13:20).
  • “So when I was sucking the d***, it numbed my mouth... I just started throwing up.” – Monét (13:20)
• Monogamy & Openness: Brief mention of moving in and out of open relationships.

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3. Podcast News & Announcements (14:35–16:11)

• Behind-the-Scenes Shifts: Announcement that Land Romano, former audio editor from Starburns, is returning.
• Patreon Updates: Hints at genuinely new Patreon programming coming soon.

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4. Celebrity Encounters & Drag Daughter Drama (16:11–21:24)

• Caroline Rhea Story: Bob tells a hilariously awkward story involving his drag daughter Free, Caroline Rhea (from Sabrina the Teenage Witch), and the etiquette of taking fan photos.

  • “You want a picture? …Free took the picture with his phone... You can tell Caroline Rhea is just being accosted by this drag queen.” – Bob (19:29)

• Comedy Store Flexes: More neighborly competitive flexing, Bob trying to extract stage time as a joke at the Comedy Store.

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5. Social Media Check-ins & Drag Scene Banter (21:24–22:40)

• Instagram Stalking: The queens discuss checking if people who DM them on Grindr also follow them on Instagram and which Drag Race girls “count” towards clout.

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6. Armageddon Planning—Where to Hide & How to Survive (23:35–27:27)

• LA Geography for the End Times: Debate over whether Bob’s city apartment or Monét’s Valley home would be better for surviving a societal collapse.
• Security Measures: Discussion on security, neighbors with guns, apartment buildings vs. ground-level houses.
  • “Anyone can walk into your place at 7am and just start drilling…” – Bob (26:08)

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7. Memes, Culture, & Black Journalists vs. Trump (28:28–31:14)

• Recent Political Spectacle: The AABJ’s interview with Donald Trump, including Trump’s comments on Kamala Harris’ blackness.

  • “He went on to question her blackness... I never knew she was black, now she’s claiming to be.” – Monet (30:26)

• Decline of Trump’s Campaign: The hosts agree that the Trump campaign and VP pick JD Vance’s recent moves are backfiring.

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8. Civil War Fantasies & Prepper Logic (31:14–34:06)

• If Trump Loses: Predictions that Trumpers may refuse election results and fantasize about civil war.
  • “There are Republicans actually going to the podium calling for civil war... your little pew-pew versus the US Military?” – Bob (32:52)
• Doomsday Prepping: Monét describes taking practical steps like installing bulletproof windows.
  • “Every day you’re becoming more and more of a doomsday prepper.” – Bob (34:51)

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9. Disaster Scenarios & Apocalypse Preferences (36:43–43:20)

• Zombie Apocalypse vs. Hunger Games vs. Mad Max: Extended debate about which post-apocalyptic universe they’d survive best in.
  • Bob: Favors top-floor high-rise living and fancies himself a survivor due to Boy Scout skills and good knots.
  • Monét: Would want to be “Effie Trinket” in Hunger Games, and proposes a “District 69” for all queers.

Notable Quote:
"If I was to be chosen to represent my district, I would be obviously District 69 with all the queers, because I think... our district will be so... we will work so well together." – Monét (40:44)

• Archery & Shooting Skills: Both brag about their potential as marksmen; plan a future “archery outing.”

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10. Blackness, Perception, and Celebrity Experiences (49:44–58:45)

• Identity vs. Experience: Highly nuanced, sometimes heated back-and-forth on black identity, representation, and perception within and outside the Black community.
  • Amber Rose’s and Rachel Dolezal’s blackness are debated.
  • Bob argues: “You cannot unblack yourself.” (52:26)
  • Monét’s take: It’s about individual experience and self-identification as well as societal perception.
  • Mariah Carey as example: Many didn’t know she was Black growing up.

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11. Light-hearted Wrap-up: Deadpool, Neck Anatomy, and Shady Banter (61:10–end)

• Deadpool vs. Wolverine Review: Both loved the movie for its entertainment value, didn’t find the gay jokes offensive.
• Famous Tendons: They bicker over whether Monét’s visible neck tendon is her aorta (spoiler: it isn't), leading to a fact-check by Jacob, their producer.
  • “Your aorta is not in your neck. It’s in your chest. You’re wrong.” – Bob (64:10)
  • “I have a different anatomy than y’all.” – Monét (63:58)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Atlanta has a reputation for being a town full of bottoms who really, don't want to be around any bottoms.” – Bob (10:27)
• “You want a picture? …Free took the picture with his phone... You can tell Caroline Rhea is just being accosted by this drag queen.” – Bob (19:29)
• “Every day you’re becoming more and more of a doomsday prepper.” – Bob (34:06)
• “If I was in Hunger Games... I would want to be an Effie Trinket person... I would be obviously District 69 with all the queers...” – Monét (40:44)
• “You cannot unblack yourself... If Ambrose has a black parent, she’s black. And that just is what it is.” – Bob (52:26)
• “Your aorta is not in your neck. It’s in your chest. You’re wrong.” – Bob (64:10)
• “I have a different anatomy than y’all.” – Monét (63:58)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• Opening Banter & Construction Woes: 01:25–07:00
• Grindr & Atlanta Hookup Stories: 09:39–14:35
• Podcast News & Team Update: 14:35–16:11
• Bob’s Caroline Rhea Saga: 16:11–21:24
• Post-Apocalypse Survival Debate: 23:35–27:27; 36:43–43:20
• Blackness, Identity, and Celebrity: 49:44–58:45
• Neck Tendon / Aorta Anatomy Riff: 61:10–end

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Tone & Vibe

True to Sibling Rivalry form, the tone is hilarious, quick-witted, and at times earnestly sincere—particularly when the hosts spar over cultural and social issues. Their signature queer humor, pop culture shade, and willingness to lean into both conflict and affection keeps the conversation lively and unpredictable.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode is a quintessential Sibling Rivalry experience—bouncing from neighborhood squabbles to political anxiety, from drag, sex, and Grindr mishaps to cultural identity and serious real-world prepping for the end times. Listeners come away both entertained and stirred to think: about identity, politics, survival, and which of their neighbors might have the best snacks (and defenses) for Armageddon.

Transcript

[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Jacob]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[Monet X Change]

And I'm Monet X Change. And this is sibling rivalry. 1, 2, 3. I told you we don't have to clap at the same time, y'.

[Advertisement Voice]

All.

[Monet X Change]

Our editor Jay has told us countless times we're going to clap at the same time. I think. I think it's something that brings you warmth and comfort. Is that what it does for you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not necessarily. I mean, there's no reason. I don't. I don't understand your strong objection account, Jacob. I already did it.

[Monet X Change]

And you was over there fussing around with curtains and beads or whatever the hell you was doing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Beat what? Beads. Beads were.

[Monet X Change]

First of all, you are an accordion pleated full jumpsuit, so please come shake your cup all the way down because you have come into this podcast on a 10 with your wardrobe alone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, calm down, because I'm wearing a shirt. And what are you wearing? A gray sweatshirt with some. With a baseball cap. You gonna talk about my clothes?

[Monet X Change]

I'm saying that you look nice, so calm down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, the way you said it. Don't do it the way you did. It's a compliment. That's whack. Why are you sitting where you're sitting?

[Monet X Change]

Cause I'm at my friend's house recording. They're doing construction in the back. And it's so loud. It's like, really? Right by my drag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, we hear it.

[Monet X Change]

Can you hear it? Really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. Oh, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

It was so loud. It's so loud. Oh, here's the thing. And I had to do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You should have went to a friend's house.

[Monet X Change]

The new construction at my house. And like, they showed up. Tell me this is inappropriate. They showed up at my house and they started working at 7:05 in the morning. That's. That's out of, like, that's inconsiderate for my neighbors. Right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, don't you. They show up against your will, like, bitch, weren't you.

[Monet X Change]

No, but. No, I told. No, they didn't. Like, we. They just showed up. Sometimes they just show up and start working.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They just show up at your house, start working out.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, they have my permission to do the project.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They might not be working. There might be people, just random people.

[Monet X Change]

They have permission to work on the project. But on that day and I. And the first day they came and

[Bob the Drag Queen]

like, is my light too bright?

[Monet X Change]

No, it looks good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like I'm on the surface of the sun. Oh, it's not warm.

[Monet X Change]

Bob will adjust his lighting after the podcast has started.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is much better.

[Monet X Change]

They have information to do the project, but they show up sometimes. And I, the first time I was like, hey, guys, I really need you guys to come after 8am because I feel like that's a reasonable time to start work. Bitch. This morning at seven. Seven, seven.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, they're probably. That's probably when the legal time to start construction is. You know, there's a legal precedent for when construction can start when it hasn't stopped. Yeah, Every state has one. I don't know what it is in. I believe in New York City, it's

[Monet X Change]

7 or 6am 6am in New York. That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me see. What time can construction work start? Oh, in New York City. Let's see. In New York City it's 7:00am to 6:00pm yeah.

[Jacob]

In California it's also 7:00am yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So if they're starting at 7:05, that's probably because that is a legal time where you can start.

[Monet X Change]

Probably rude, though. If I'll be. If I'll be mad as hell. If I was my, If I was my neighbors, I mean, I wouldn't be mad.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I lived in New York City and I heard a lot of people starting construction at 7am it was pretty common. And it's also so they can get work done faster if they show up later. There's going to.

[Monet X Change]

I know. And it also.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You also have to stop at 6 o' clock or at least I don't know what it is in la, but in New York, you. You legally cannot do construction.

[Monet X Change]

And it's the middle of the day. Get so hot. It is so hot. Right. Pushing his heat wave. It'd Be hot as hell.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, to be honest, I'm on their side with this one. It seems like they're really on time, really professional, and they are probably going to get this project done in a timely manner. So I got to be honest. I'm team Blue collar workers.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. Just for the work. I want to say I am also team blue collar workers. I feel like sometimes Bob says statements on his podcast and it makes me seem like I'm on the opposing side of the argument.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's nothing to do with me. That's you now. That's how you're representing yourself. Okay. But you have expressed some anti union sentiments on this spot.

[Monet X Change]

What anti. Out of the two of us, I'm the one of us that was on a union first.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, that's also not true.

[Monet X Change]

I was part of. I was part of Local 6 in New York City when I worked at hotels. When did you become part of the SAG union?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, I wasn't. I wasn't SAGs at the first union. I'm a member of multiple.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, which one? State them. List them. Actors Equity and drop the number so we cause a week we can verify.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I give you guys my SAG number. Actors Equity, which is how I did Berkeley. And I also was working for the Actors Equity when I was at the Jekyll and Hyde Club. As an actor, you had to be

[Monet X Change]

part of Equity to work at Jekyll and Hyde?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Really? Yep. And what. What year did you work at the Jekyll and Hyde Club?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I started working at Jekyll and Hyde in 2009.

[Monet X Change]

I started working in hotels in 2009 as well. So we may be around the same time. I hate when you do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You did have. You did have to be active Equity to work at. To work as an actor. Jekyll and High Club. But when I started, they had actually dropped that.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, word. That seems like a lot to work. No, no shade. But I mean, okay, just so y' all are aware, actors, normally people who work in Actors Equity are people who are on Broadway tours or work through Broadway. So it just seems like a big requirement to be like, to be a

[Bob the Drag Queen]

server at this restaurant.

[Monet X Change]

Who's going to have to be part

[Bob the Drag Queen]

of Actors for the Actors, not the service for the actors.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I guess I'm confused at what. Jekyll and Hyde. So Jekyll and High, like Medieval Times?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Jekyll and High Club is like going to a restaurant where there are mad scientists and doctors who roam around while you eat. And they also. And there's also a show they put on during the dinner service as well. Okay, so it's more like a interactive dinner theater.

[Monet X Change]

Have you ever seen. There's this new. I mean, everyone knows Elaine Stardust. Well, not everyone. People who go to New York who have theater people knows Elaine Stardust. On Ellen Stardust.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm screaming at Elaine Stardust.

[Monet X Change]

Who is it? Who is who? Stardust.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ellen's. Ellen's Stardust Diner.

[Monet X Change]

Are you sure it's Ellen?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

100% positive.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you quote that one guy from Patreon who hates when I say this, and this is not up for debate, let that trigger him again. He said, I wish someone would say this after. To debate. For debate to Bob. And I was like, girl. Although Jacob, just. Just like with Trump and those black journalists. Can we get a real time fact checker, please?

[Monet X Change]

There is. There's a new one that I've seen on. On Tik Tok that I'm obsessed with. And the people at Ellen Stardust are fierce, too. With this one bitch. These bitches are going up. I want to go.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe Elaine is the one you're talking about. Maybe Elaine is the newest.

[Monet X Change]

Maybe that's the one. But I want to go. Can you and I go to one together? Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I auditioned for Ellen Stardust nine years ago.

[Monet X Change]

You don'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I auditioned.

[Monet X Change]

I believe my name is thinking of

[Jacob]

Gail's Gale's Broadway Rose.

[Monet X Change]

Maybe that's the one. Yeah. Is it downtown?

[Jacob]

I think so. Let me look.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I walked in. This is when I was like, 23, 22 years old. I walked in. I was like, hey, I would like to work here at Ellen's Tartar's Diner. And the guy was like. And the guy goes, okay. And then he goes, all right. I was walked in with my server application and my actual resume. And. And I was like, I can. I want to be a waiter here. And then he was like, all right, come back at. During the lunch rush or something like that. I think he come back. Or either I came during the lunch rush or something. He was like, all right, sing a song in front of everyone right now.

[Monet X Change]

And Bob goes, you want to leave?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You have to sing. You have to sing two songs. You have to stick around during the service and sing two songs.

[Monet X Change]

Like, during regular people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Regular service with. With. With. With. With tourists in tow. So I did. Dev went down to Georgia and I, which he really enjoyed. And he was like, that was actually incredibly entertaining, But I need you to do something that's a little more singy. He goes, because it's not just about being entertaining. It's also about being a good singer. And then apparently, if someone does a really good singing thing, he comes, he makes him the next song be something really entertaining. And then I did Valerie, or I think I did Valerie by Amy Winehouse.

[Monet X Change]

Can you give us a little snippet of that? No, I always, you know, I like when he's singing the podcast anyway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And so. And then he. He said, thank you, but no thank you. Yeah, but I was like, in my early 20s or.

[Monet X Change]

This is what I think I admire about you, Bob. You. You. When you want to do something, you will do it. Like, you are committed to it. You will thing. And if it's a no, you're like, all right. I said, no, But I tried a thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I went for it, and I guess I did try it. Okay. That was me on In Atlanta on Grindr this weekend. This guy, I wrote this guy said, hi, and he drove back and said, not interested. I said. I said. I wrote back. I said, you know, you didn't. You didn't have to respond. You could have just. You could have just not said anything. He goes, but I did. I said, okay. And he goes, and you look like a bottom anyway. And I was like, oh. And I said, oh, you're one of them. I said, I don't think we would have gotten along. He goes, yeah. And I clocked that. And that's why I. That's why I said, no. And then he blocked me. I was really gagged.

[Monet X Change]

I will say this Atlanta Grinder gets. I've been bottom chain on. On Atlanta Grinder, and it doesn't happen often. Like, here and there you get bottom. But in Atlanta, at least, like, three or four times I've been bottom chain on Atlanta. Like, you a bottom now, and they'll, like, block me or something like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Atlanta has a reputation for being a town full of bottoms who really, it don't want to be around any bottoms. That's kind of Atlanta's reputation, like, New York City is known for being all bottoms, but the bottoms will sometimes get together in bump purses. But in Atlanta, it is known for being a town full of bottoms who really cannot stand on the bottoms, which that can't be.

[Monet X Change]

Right? Right? Like, if you think of, like, there's no way there are more bottoms in Atlanta than anywhere else in the world. Like, I don't think that's how.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't say more than anywhere in the world, but maybe. Maybe there's just three really tired tops in Atlanta who just Been working their asses off and are just really exhausted and brutalized and abused by all these bottoms in the town. And these three tops are just trying to escape but they're chained somewhere Onto some skinny little queen's bed There was.

[Monet X Change]

I had a. I was. I was singing. I was in New York this past week, and I was seeing Williamsburg, and I opened the Grind, and they were just like, really? And someone hits me up. Beautiful body and everything. The profile was just like this, right? And starting to ask a bit. I was like, at work, so we're talking, and then they're like, zero feet away. I was like, oh, are you staying at this hotel, too? He's like, no, I work here. I was like, oh. And he was like, do you mind? I was like. I was like. I was like, that means that you can, like, come up here anytime you want. He's like, yeah. He's like, give me a room number. But I had. So when was this? When was this? Yeah, like yesterday, two days ago. Okay. But before that, I hooked up. Okay. So I hooked up with someone. Someone. Two people before that. And I went to suck his dick, but his dick. I don't know what was on his penis.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was numbing skin.

[Monet X Change]

No, but I put his dick in my mouth.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He didn't have any skin on his penis.

[Monet X Change]

Shut the up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's crazy. You're like, no, of course not.

[Monet X Change]

Sometimes I like my dick. Like, I like my chicken breast skinless. You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know? I do know what you mean. More flavor.

[Monet X Change]

So when I was sucking the zig, it numbed my mouth, and I was like, what the. I was like, that's so weird. So he wanted to stop me, but I left my douche here, and I didn't buy a new one because I was like, that's so annoying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You did?

[Monet X Change]

Anyway, no. I was like, no, I can't. He's getting aggressive, which is kind of hot. But I was like, no, I can't. So we just. We finished that, and then another dude came over, and he was so beautiful. Beautiful body, beautiful face. His breath smelled like a sewer, but he was so beautiful and hot. And I was like, so this was great. But then after him, that's when the guy at the hotel hit me up, and I was like, busy day. The guy at the hotel hit me up, and I was like. But then the nausea from the numbing dick. Two dicks before was hitting. So I was like. I just felt super nauseous. I was like, no, I can't. Sorry. I can't I was like, maybe I'm just hungry. I went to get food, bitch. I took two bites of my food. I just started throwing up. And I don't like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This story is not as. I don't know if you think this story is hot, but it's not.

[Monet X Change]

I'm just talking about my experience, but I was just thinking, like, what was. Does anyone know what could have been on his dick that made me, like, sick? It made me, like. It made me nauseous and sick. I was like, did someone, like, do a bump of coke off his dick? Like, why was. Why did it numb my mouth and why did it make me nauseous?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is a big cry from back in the day when I'd be like, maybe you could hug another person. Like, I am my nana wife.

[Monet X Change]

Well, instead of a body copy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you ever thought about holding strong eye contact with someone?

[Monet X Change]

Don't ever, ever. I've said this to the flaw. Anything I go about, we do. We go in and out of monogamy and openness, and right now was a period of openness.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Apparently, y' all are bust wild open.

[Monet X Change]

Can y' all hear this? Like, is it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is. Louder. We can't hear it.

[Monet X Change]

Is this gonna be. Is this gonna be unusable?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's probably no less usable. We got a lot of. We got a lot of blowback from you brushing your teeth with that thing on the podcast. On the podcast last time. A lot of people were really upset.

[Jacob]

They were.

[Monet X Change]

And, and, and, and, and guys. Oh, let's take a break. I'll tell you guys about the very important big news happening over here at Similian Rivalry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's the big news at Silver Rivalry?

[Monet X Change]

So. So, as y' all know, when Silver Rivalry started, we were not represented. Bob and I did it ourselves. We uploaded ourselves. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Bob edited it. Then we joined Starburns Audio, which was. We were with Starburns Audio for a long time, for about two years. Then we transitioned to studio in this new iteration of the podcast. We're going the. The amazing Senior Vice president. I forget. I don't know his exact title. His name was Land Romano at Starburns. That's. You know, he is an amazing audio editor. He's coming back to audio. He'll be editing the audio of our podcast. And he's amazing. So he's joining our team again. And we're so excited to have Land back on Civic Library.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I ran into Land at the Comedy Store. I did Justin Martindale's podcast Love Land

[Monet X Change]

isn't He so sweet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yolanda's very lovely. Well, you know, anything said with Justin Martin. That's crazy.

[Monet X Change]

I do. First of all, I want to put you on that podcast. They asked me. They're like, should we have Bob? And I say, yeah, you should have Bobby's. Amazing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How did you put me on a podcast where Justin Martindale and lan already both knew who I was?

[Monet X Change]

What do you say, Jacob?

[Jacob]

Can you tell the Caroline Ray story after this?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. The answer is, I will tell the story. I feel like it's not that great of a story, but I will tell about.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. Because. Yeah, okay. Because we also. So you. So I say all that to say Linus coming on the podcast also, just so I know. I know we always tease about things happening over at Single Rivalry and Patreon, but we really. Bob and I are really working on some really amazing ways that we're beefing up our Patreon stuff. Some brand new things that are coming down the pike. For real. This is not like the movie. This is not like. This is real programming and real things that are actually happening that will be coming to fruition very soon. You're ridiculous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I will tell the story. I don't think it's a great story, but I will tell. I feel like you have to have so much context.

[Monet X Change]

Fill me in. Y' all started texting that in the group chat, and I had no idea what the context was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have a friend named Free. Free is my drag daughter. Free is this drag queen living in New York City, and Free is not known for being particularly kind. Okay. Free also does make some outfits for me and Monet. You've seen some. You've seen me and. Me and Monet in outfits made by Free on. On Drag Race and on tour on Freemae, the Bob the Drag Queen Elizabeth dress.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, he did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why is your. What is wrong with your head, bitch?

[Monet X Change]

And I'm taking the ginkgo biloba. And I told you that shit don't work. I'm doing all the things to circumvent.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You waited too long. You waited too long. I've been recommended for eight years. Maybe the damage is done.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway, continue with your story, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So anyway, so one day, Free was meeting me at the Lincoln center when I was going to. I was hosting an opera, an Evening of Opera, before Monet ever got the opportunity. I was hosting an evening of opera at the Lincoln center, doing Stonewall, the Opera, back when Monet was doing little club gigs.

[Monet X Change]

Can you tell a story and not be a horrible person for five seconds

[Bob the Drag Queen]

back when Monet was still doing Cooter slams for. For dollars soaked in beer. And so on the way headed there, he and I were like, I gave Free this, this, this dress. I had this rainbow dress. It's like rainbow reveal dress. If you look up my season performance in New York City, there's this dress I do over the rainbow, and then I pull the dress and it becomes a rainbow dress. And then I had a new version of that dress made. So I gave Free the old one because Free's a little skinnier than me. I gave Free the old one and a little. And then I got the new one and then we both did a reveal together and then we watched the offer together. So on the way, Free was like, I ran in.

[Monet X Change]

Was that. Was that when he went with you to Paris? You know, we're like wearing Paris together, Something like that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Free, no. Oh, Free did go to Paris. No, we did that. We did that. We did that video together over in Lincoln center or climb a circle. So anyway, so on the way to the. To the venue, Free ran into Caroline Ray. He was like, oh, my God, I ran into Caroline Ray, if you don't know. Caroline Ray was one of the aunts from Sabrina the Teenage. She's a stand up comedian, but her most famous role is she was one of the aunts in Sabrina. Sabrina the Teenage Witch with.

[Monet X Change]

With Zelda. I forget her name.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Her name's not Zelda. Her name is.

[Monet X Change]

I know. I don't know her name, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I mean the. The actress who played Clarissa.

[Monet X Change]

Melissa Joan Hart.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

With Melissa on Hart. Not with. Not the new one. The one with Melissa Jo. Anyway, so according to Free, the story goes Caroline Rae walked up to Free and was like, oh, my God, you're in drag. How beautiful. Like, happy pride. And then she goes. Free goes, my name is Free. And she goes, I'm Caroline Ray. And he goes, I know who you are. Which is a very free thing to say. I know who you are.

[Monet X Change]

Alfredo can be a little bit aggressive sometimes, but I love it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then she was like, oh, okay. And then Free. And then Free was like, do you want a picture? And then she was like. But then Free took the picture with his phone. Like, it wasn't like, let's take a picture. And like, Free took the picture with it.

[Jacob]

With.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

With his phone, clicked it, and then you get. It's in the picture. You can tell that Caroline Ray is just like, is being accosted by this drag queen who's saying, you want a picture when the truth is she wants a fucking picture. And then I was in drag the other day and I just ran into Caroline Ray, so I felt the need to recreate the photo. Now, when we're gonna put the photo up here, this is the picture that. This is the picture that Free took with Caroline Ray. And we thought it was so funny because it seems like Caroline Ray does not want to be in this picture. Caroline seems to have no desire to be in this picture. And Freeze seems very pleased to have Carol Ray in this photo. And then this picture is when our friend Mateo Lane drew redrew the image. So then Mateo drew a depiction of the interaction. And then I ran into Caroline Rae the other day. I told her the story. And then I have this picture of me and Caroline Rae.

[Monet X Change]

Where did you run into her at? Where were you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

At the Comedy Store. I was doing Justin Martindale's podcast.

[Monet X Change]

You did it in drag?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Yeah, I ran into this guy. You know, I like to say stuff that's awkward because I think it's funny. And I went. I left my fanny pack in the dress in the green room and I was like, oh. I went back and get it and then I just looked at the guy and I was like. I was like, do you guys mind if I do like 40 minutes of stage time tonight for your show to these strangers? I thought. I just thought it was funny. And the guy was like, oh, I don't know, man, let me just see. Cause like, you know, maybe on another show. I was like, no, I really need like 40 minutes, like tonight, night of stage time during y' all show.

[Monet X Change]

Did they give it to you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, of course. Eventually this other guy who was like, really hot was standing there and then he was like, I don't want to say his name because I don't want to say his name because of the way the interaction happened. I was just like, you know, I was very funny. So all the comedians like, wow, you're really funny. Especially they don't know who I am.

[Monet X Change]

Justin Mar's podcast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So this was a group coming in after this is the show, after Justin Martindale Martindale show. So they were. They were there watching the tail end of the show.

[Monet X Change]

Got it, Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And they were like, you're really funny. I was like, thank, thank you. Yada, yada, yada. And this one guy was just really hot. Me and Jared Goldstein were like, man, that guy is so good looking. Jared Goldstein is a comedian. He hangs those techno towers. He's Asian guy. Anyway, so then the Guy. But I think the guy gave me a fake name.

[Monet X Change]

The hot guy. Was he gay?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

You can. You know what? Somebody's gay. Girl, you do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But he didn't know who I was, so apparently he can be gay. Let me tell you right now.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. You're.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyways, every fag in this. Every in the world knows this one.

[Monet X Change]

Honey girl, let me tell you, the world will end and faggots won't know who the hell you are. Okay, but people know who I am because the name on everybody's lips is going to be Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When you. When someone writes on Grinder, do you check to see if they are following you on Instagram first?

[Monet X Change]

If they have the Instagram, I check, yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What are they following me but not following you? Would you believe them? And they're like, I don't know who you are.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. If they're following you and they're not following me, I'm like, you're lying. There is no way that you're following Bob and you don't know who I am.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's one person who they can follow but not know me. There's one person, but. But only one. There's only one rude girl. I will accept that you might know them and not me, and that's Naomi. Naomi Smalls.

[Monet X Change]

Why?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because they might have been watching her on your season of Drag Race. So if. Let me rephrase that. Anyone who's, like, associated with me that I know, not any rude girl, but, like, I know Naomi Smalls, but there's a chance that you saw Naomi on All Stars and did not know that she was from season eight, and there. I will accept that you are following Naomi, but not. But if you're following Kimchi, Bianca Del Rio, Jinx, Monsoon, Peppermint, Monet, X. Change. Anyway, any of my. Any of those. Of my. I was being a little. But if you're following, like, one of my close drag friends, I say, my closest drag friends from Drag Race. Are you Pep Kim. Naomi, you're probably just Monet. Don't do this. Who did I miss? Who did I miss? Say it now. Show me. To me, Rachel. Show me Rachel. Who did I say? No, I'm good. I didn't skip anything. I skipped nothing. That list was intentional.

[Monet X Change]

Now, we need to talk about this. Although I'm feeling more optimistic about our future here as citizens in this world. But if a motherfucking global collapse happens, if the apocalypse happens, what the fuck is we doing? Number one, if we're both in la Are we finding our way to each other or are we keeping separate? Because I'm like, hollywood, where you at is going to be pandemonium. It is going to be a Panda Express over there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

I think over here in the Valley is a much safer and a much better place to be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's a bold assumption.

[Monet X Change]

It is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is bold. I agree.

[Monet X Change]

Hollywood Mobbing. Ski, Min Lutin. Hi, Joe. Bodies. It's gotta be crazy over there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think. Okay. You act like I live in. You sound like one of the fucking Trumpies. They destroyed Chicago. They burned down Minneapolis.

[Monet X Change]

Bob, you're in a. You're in more of the city. Like, there are buildings. There's, like, a lot going on over there. Over here in the Valley is residential. Like, this is a safe. We can hanker down in this house and we can, like. We can, like, be safe here also. All my neighbors have a license to carry. We can band together.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think that the laws for carrying are different in the Valley than they are in the city? Okay.

[Monet X Change]

I think I would reckon that the more people. How many people do you know have a license? How many of your neighbors do you fucking ladies. Owners. You think they have a fucking musket and a fucking rifle ready to go?

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, I talked to one of my neighbors. That's not true. I talked to. There's two that I talked to. The doctor and his wife and then lady in their office.

[Monet X Change]

Y' all hear that? Y' all hear these little flex. First of all, I talked to my neighbors. I talked to. I talked to the. I talked to the orthopedic surgeon and I talked to the lawyer.

[Jacob]

Y', all.

[Monet X Change]

Y'.

[Jacob]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said the doctor and his wife and lady and their office.

[Monet X Change]

Y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All.

[Monet X Change]

Y' all heard it. Y' all heard it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And who a Betty upstairs. I haven't seen Betty in a long time. I have not seen BET in a very. Betty lives in the penthouse. Betty lives in the nicest on this.

[Monet X Change]

A penthouse. Yo, Y. Yo, I cannot.

[Jacob]

Y.

[Monet X Change]

Bob loves his little. His little flexes. His little flex. His little flex of flex.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said Betty lives in the penthouse. I don't live in the penthouse.

[Monet X Change]

There is luxury in here, but there's a pet house. House.

[Jacob]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, I think the reason why my place would be safer than your place that I live in. I live in an apartment building. You are on the ground level. Apparently, anyone can walk into your place at 7am and just start drilling. There's no. You don't even have security.

[Monet X Change]

People.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

People are People are sneaking into your garage. People are just walking onto your, your, your, your, your land and drilling. You don't even know they're there until you look. Until you hear the. In the morning.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you know why? That's because as you know, the Fed fencing is literally coming into my place now. So I will be very secure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay? The fish you're getting built is not like the wall that Trump tried to build. It's a fence, girl. They can be knocked over easily. I live in a building you have to get through a few doors for you get to my door.

[Monet X Change]

First of all, the second door don't even work the second door. My place does work in your building. Once you get through that, that, that

[Bob the Drag Queen]

first door, which, I mean, it's not supposed to be locked. That door doesn't lock. It's just supposed to be, you give me a hammer.

[Monet X Change]

You give me a hammer, I will

[Bob the Drag Queen]

open that first door in every building. And we lived in New York City. You and I both know that there's a door that you have to have a code or a key to get into. And the second door is just a door. Like everyone knows the second door is just a door that has no code. Everyone that's every. Everybody's building. The second door is just a door that has no code or anything.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I'll have to say your first door all being very nice with glass and shit. Bitch, you give me a screwdriver, I will ka ching and open the door. So what was it about? It's safe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then do it. No, I'm not gonna.

[Monet X Change]

You want me to get shot and killed in your neighborhood?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then Rocket. Then Rocket. Are you familiar with. Are you familiar with Then Rocket?

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's Blac Chyna arguing with her mother. And then she's like, something Black China put her hand on her face and something. Then. What's Black China's mother's name?

[Monet X Change]

Tokyo.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Tokyo Tony. She was like, you did it again. I'm gonna rock your world. Then Black China goes. Then rock it.

[Monet X Change]

I'm obsessed with the memes of. It'd be like Tokyo Tony in a car with the wind blowing through her hair. Like me leaving my trade at 7am in the morning, just knowing I have

[Bob the Drag Queen]

decided Tokyo Tony is really a mess. I mean, she's going to come for us something, probably. But she is like, you see her interviewing her interviewing Ms. Charles, Netta and Ms. Charles.

[Monet X Change]

Tony interviewing Netta and Charles. So Netta and Charles and Ms. Charles. I'm screaming at that Ms. Netta and

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Charles and also Tia Camp and one other person were interviewing. It was basically the black journalist versus Trump, but in reverse, which is another

[Monet X Change]

unhinged thing that happened last week. Our politics is so unhinged.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, let's take a break before we talk about it. Hold on. Let's take a break before we talk about it.

[Monet X Change]

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[Jacob]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I thought it would be fun

[Monet X Change]

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[Monet X Change]

Okay, we're blocked.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So the, the, the. The what was the AABJ

[Monet X Change]

Association?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that what an mbga J A? Yeah, they sat down to have a conversation with. With former president of the United States, Donald J. Trump. You know what the J stands for?

[Monet X Change]

Jerome.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Donald Jerome Trump. My name Donald Jerome Trump.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, they sat down to talk with him, which I didn't. Also, can I. I hate when people call him President Trump. He's former president. He's not, he's not the current president. You don't say president.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I don't think that's how president people do say President Barack Obama. President. President. Yeah. President Rocco.

[Monet X Change]

I just won't give him any accolades. Don't fucking anything. Anyway, they said I was talking to him and that whole interview was wild. People were upset because they were like, oh, they offered his Kamala Harris. But Kamala just couldn't make that. She also offered to do it virtually, but they were like, nah, nigga, if you can't be here in person, we don't want it at all. Which Trump acknowledged when he was there, which was almost like interested that he said that. But he went on to question her blackness. She was like, well, she's Indian. I never knew she was black. And now she's, like, claiming to be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like I already said was, she only ever promoted Indian heritage. She was only. She only ever had Indian heritage. She only ever promoted Indian heritage. Then all of a sudden, she turned black.

[Monet X Change]

Turned black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And now she wants to be known as black. And then next thing I know, she turned black. I didn't know she was black.

[Monet X Change]

I can't. But anyway, it was just a fucking. Honestly, I think all of these and JD Vance, they're all contributing to the decline of his campaign. Cause they're unraveling. They look so fucking crazy, but. So him even agreeing to go to the nbja, I'm gagged that he agreed to it because I thought he thought it would garner him some black votes, but it ain't. It did the exact opposite. And I was upset at first that these people gave him the time of day, but I think it was actually in the long term, it was a smart move for him to go on there for us.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I'm intrigued by what him and Vance are gonna try to do to. To regain their footing in this election, because it's not particularly going great for them.

[Monet X Change]

I think what we're looking at is that when it's. I think what we should be prepared for is that because they've done it before, right? It's a scenario that they lose, they're not going to accept that. So I think that the next. What we need to be thinking of is what does that look like when they refuse to accept the results of the election? Because I think that is gonna be their next move. Their next move is if they don't win, they're gonna be like, well, it was rigged. It wasn't fair. It's wrong, and we have to be prepared for what action happens.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, a lot of Republicans are saying stuff like, there's going to be a civil war. There are Republicans actually going to the podium at these rallies calling for civil war and civil unrest if Donald Trump does not win the election. And I'm really intrigued by that notion because, like this someone's like, and I'm glad that we got guns on our side or something. And I'm like, okay, I want to be clear. If there were a civil war between Trumpers and the US Government, it wouldn't be people who voted for Trump versus people who didn't vote for Trump. It'd be a few Trump dissenters versus the United States government, right? So your right to carry your little. Your little pew pew. Your little blickety Versus what? The US Military. I mean, not to like y'. All, these people who think they stand. You wouldn't stand a chance against your local police department. Do you think you stand a chance against the National Guard?

[Monet X Change]

That's a good perspective, Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, they, they swear it's going to be everyone who voted for Trump versus everyone who voted for Kamala. That's not how. That's, that's not how that works, y'. All. It's going to be you versus the National Guard. You with your little makeshift. You with your little camo that you brought down at the Duck Dynasty. Yeah, the, the Duck Dynasty gift shop.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You went, you went under the pro bass shop, bought some camouflage. You're gonna be going up against trained Navy seals.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hiding in your bushes.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I need to, I mean, again, so, so Sunday night.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sorry. Especially, Especially because the, the, the head of the US Government will be that, you know, the chief of commander will be at that point, at the moment that, that she wins. It'll be Joe Biden until January. And then on the day that it's on the day that, on the day of the inauguration, it'll be Kamala Harris.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, like, who do y' all think they're gonna listen to?

[Monet X Change]

Right? Well, I mean, again. But this is why, like, when I got my house done, all my windows are bulletproof.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I gotta be honest. Every day you're becoming more and more of a, oh, what do you call a doomsday prepper. And, and I feel like the more we talk, you, you, you start leaning a little low key. Conspiracy theory.

[Monet X Change]

No, not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe you and Carrie Colby need, need a pod.

[Monet X Change]

I, I. Not the smart thing. Like, when I was choosing window options, it was like $5 more per window to just get ones that are bulletproof. So why not like, so you, you

[Bob the Drag Queen]

got bulletproof windows, but you, but you wouldn't get an air tag. Oh, okay. Oh, oh, okay.

[Monet X Change]

Bitch this. Bitch it is. This is the hottest. This is no longer. Because you know what we would see growing up? Like, this is the hottest day since 1920 something. This year we have reached the hottest days in recorded history. It's no longer, oh, this is the hottest day since 1937. This is the hottest day we have ever recorded since we have had the ability to record his temperature.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you afraid your windows are going to explode if it gets hotter?

[Monet X Change]

No. Natural disasters, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, what natural disaster could California have besides a earthquake?

[Monet X Change]

Earthquake?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think your windows are earthquake proof.

[Monet X Change]

No, I mean, but my House is in California.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We build a house.

[Monet X Change]

You have to do things to, to, to earthquake proof your home and like

[Bob the Drag Queen]

the foundation to stabilize it.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah. So I have this many.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's many natural disasters that can harm your windows in, in, in. In California. California is not known for its tornadoes. Now I'm from Georgia. We get a lot of tornadoes in Georgia.

[Monet X Change]

Did Georgia get tornado. I thought that was more of a Midwest thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Georgia gets probably about 30 tornadoes a year.

[Monet X Change]

Really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Roughly, I'm sure.

[Monet X Change]

Oh my God. Are you coming? Are you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where's, where's California? California? New York get like barely. No, like I don't think New York gets any tornadoes a year.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. No, no, that's not true. Long island like last year there were like a lot of record Z. A lot of recorded tornadoes in Long island last year.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think New York. Jacob Google how many tornadoes a year.

[Monet X Change]

New York State gets his headlines about it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

People are like, there were a lot of tornadoes.

[Monet X Change]

Not a lot, but more than the average. Like New York. I would never have tornadoes. They were like three or four in Long island last year.

[Jacob]

10 a year in New York.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

10. 10, 10. That's not a lot of tornadoes.

[Monet X Change]

You said Georgia has a lot. Y' all have 30. That's. We're a third of the amount y' all have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, a third. That's, that's, that's, that's a lot. That's like. That is over 200% more.

[Monet X Change]

What? No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

100% would be 20, right? And then another 100% would be 30.

[Monet X Change]

But I'm saying 10 is a lot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean it's not nothing. Wait, how many does Georgia, how many does Georgia have? Jacob? Georgia probably has like 30. I'm assuming Geor. 40. 40 work.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, well. What, what, What a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, like have you ever had a tornado drill?

[Monet X Change]

No, never.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, then you don't live in a place tornadoes. Because Georgia, we. We used to have tornadoes all the time work. And some of those tornado Joes we had as a kid, they were not drills.

[Monet X Change]

I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They were straight up tornadoes, which they would tell us they were drills because

[Monet X Change]

we were children and which one of these post apocalyptic scenarios would you prefer to live in? Zombie apocalypse clips, Hunger Games, like you know, District 12 and Katniss Everdeen and shit. What's that day? That movie with Jake Gyllenhaal and they in Manhattan in the world. Like the day. The day after tomorrow or like Mad Max like desert and like, like why

[Bob the Drag Queen]

would we go ahead and get rid of day after tomorrow? Because day after tomorrow was like a. A flood in New York City. Like, it was like the Empire State Building that, like, became the first floor on, like, it was like either I. I can't swim for one. I don't want to live in a wetland for two. So.

[Monet X Change]

No, you're being wet all the time. Well, it was just. It flooded. Everything froze over. That's what it was like. It's like a crazy polar vortex. Like, after everything flooded, this crazy thing that froze everything and being cold and I don't like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, no. So I don't want that one. I just do not want that one.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob will be there. Like, woo.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is nice. This is nice. It was a little toasty. And then I don't really feel like I want a zombie apocalypse, even though I feel like I might fare relatively well in one. I don't think I'd be allowed to.

[Monet X Change]

Why would you care? Well, in a zombie apocalypse.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I have more. I have skills that you don't know about.

[Monet X Change]

What skills do you have in that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can. I can do. I'm very good with knots. I also can start a fire from scratch.

[Monet X Change]

No, I can start a fire. I learned how to do it for Survivor audition.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I didn't say you couldn't. I said I could.

[Jacob]

Yes, you did.

[Monet X Change]

You literally said, I have skills that you don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said skills that you don't know about. We don't now. One of the skills I have is listening. That's when you don't have to. That's one that you don't seem to be working well with. I can start a fire I'm really good with. I was a Boy Scout, so I actually have some wilderness skills.

[Monet X Change]

I'm so intrigued of seeing little Chubby then Skinny Bob the drag queen in Wilderness Scout training. I am so. I want to see pictures of you and your little gay uniform.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They don't exist. We didn't room because we didn't have any. Like, cameras are expensive, man. Also, this may shock you, but all of my family's pictures were recently burned to a crisp. That. That also happened. I go, okay. My trauma. Okay.

[Monet X Change]

You know, some of my family artifacts were damaged in the rain storm and St. Louis show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not a competition, Monet.

[Monet X Change]

It's not a competition. You don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't have to go trauma for trauma.

[Monet X Change]

So you want to be in Katniss in Hunger Games?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think I might do well in the Hunger Games because it's just a numbers game. Like, what are the chances I would be first of all, I'm too old to be picked. I've aged out. Let me be clear. I've aged out. I'm past that. I've already made it beyond when they're going to start putting kids in the Thunderdome, you know what I mean? And also, I would want to try to get like a Lenny Kravitz. I wouldn't get chosen. I mean, the odds are. The odds are just so terrible. Like, what are the odds I would be chosen? Like, what are the odds? And also, when they chose the adult, weren't the adults. They chose people who were former winners?

[Monet X Change]

I don't remember.

[Jacob]

And you are a former winner.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Of Drag Race. I would. But you apply for Drag Race. Okay. I don't believe I would. I don't believe I would ever get chosen. I just. I just don't think from a numbers game. I feel like I would choose. And what was the last one?

[Monet X Change]

One Mad Max.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, not having to, like, fight for water feels really exhausting. Like you, like, having there be such little water feels. Because I think that's in. Pretty much the main premise of Mad Max is how little water there is.

[Monet X Change]

If I was in Hunger Games, first of all, I would want to be like an Effie Trinket person. I would like audition to be that. To be like that person.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Part of the establishment. That's crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. If it's down to that, I'll be part of the establishment. I need to survive.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Damn, that's crazy.

[Monet X Change]

And then. But if I was to be chosen to represent my district, I would be obviously District 69 with all the queers, because I think they should blue. Honestly, in that scenario, you can't be in District 69.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You have to be. If you want to be Effie Shrink, you have to be in the Capitol.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I'm saying. I'm saying if I'm not Effie Trinket, if I have to be in the district, I think they should put all the queers, let us live together in one district. Our district will be so. We will work so well together. The lesbians would have us together. The gays will design us to hell. The not the enbies are going to keep us honest and keep us, you know, great. I think put us all together in District 69.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're all. They're all going to be farming enemies. Love to farm. Non binary people love to farm.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. And then so I would represent District 69. I think the weapon of my choice would be archery. Here's a video.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What would the bisexual People do.

[Monet X Change]

Say it again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What would the bisexual people do?

[Monet X Change]

The bisexual. They will keep us happy sexually. Like they would be. They would be going back and forth. Yeah, they would be our handmade.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jesus Christ.

[Monet X Change]

Jesus.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm sorry. To our bisexual listeners. Blessed be.

[Monet X Change]

My weapon of choice would be a bow. So, Andy, here's a video right here, Andy, for one of Andy Owens took me on these fucking white excursions. Although, you know, I'm trying to get myself out of. Stop saying that white people are. Black people do archery too. And we're very good at it as well. As I'm watching the Olympics, I'm learning this. So black do everything too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What A lot of us do our.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, there's a lot of archers. There are a lot of black archers this year at the Olympics. And so I went to do one of these. One of these activities and I was really good at archery. Bitch, I was fucking killing it. Which you and I should go. I would love to go do it. When you get back after your tour, I really want us to start doing some. Anything you can dos and we can take an outing, get someone to. I have someone that can come film us and let's go archery. Doing archery. Would you do archery?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My toxic trait is thinking that I would be good at archery without any training. I just feel it in my heart. I just feel it in my heart. I was really good at axe throwing. When I asked her, I was. I was axe throwing.

[Monet X Change]

I vaguely remember you telling me that you going, arch, I'm sending. I'm sending the video to Jacob now before I forget. I remember you doing archer. You doing this? A video of you doing this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, it is. I have pretty good hand eye coordination, so that's why I feel like. I feel like I would be a great marksman. I feel like I'd be with. With a gun or with. Also, I feel like with a gun it feels pretty easy. This is like.

[Monet X Change]

Like a gun is not easy to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't want to diminish the skills of all the people who train with guns. But like there's like a scope on the end. There's like a little thing on the gun. It's like a thing right there. There's like a little thing on the gun.

[Monet X Change]

It's not easy, though. It's not. It does not make it easy. I'm telling you. It's hard.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I bet. I'm willing to bet money that if we go and shoot guns, I'll be better than you. I just know I will.

[Monet X Change]

Well, we're doing it. I know you're away for a while. We're doing it. Jacob. Can we start running? Tackle. We're doing arts. Archery. We're doing guns. You know what? No, let's do the one where they throw the thing in the air. The ski. Ski shooting. And I bet you I'll break more plates than you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I mean, I want to be clear that I'm visually impaired, so moving targets might be a little bit harder.

[Monet X Change]

There we go. Now she. Now she. Now she got a disability.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I don't make fun of your plantar fasciitis.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, wait. Because you have a little astigmatism.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have astigmatism in both eyes. And I've been wearing glasses since I was 4 years old. Where they at now then? I don't travel with them.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, so you can't see nothing, but you never wear your glasses?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I don't travel with my glasses because sleeping with your glasses on a plane for me is really uncomfortable. Like being on a plane and you're asleep and your head. And then you wake up and your glasses are smushed into your face. Does any other glasses people have this experience where you're sleeping in public or you sleep with. You can't sleep with your hand like this when you're wearing glasses or like you can't do this.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Jacob, what do you do?

[Jacob]

You take your glasses off and put them into your glasses case and then put them in the seat pocket.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't carry a glasses case because it's so big and bulky. So I usually put my glasses here on my. On my shirt.

[Monet X Change]

I'm hearing a lot of. And no solutions.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not like, I gotta look at. I've always used the glasses, but I haven't looked at the glasses cases. Thank you so much for bringing that up, Jacob.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so you don't think my place is a good place. Place for apocalypse? Where do you think is the. Is that is an ideal place to the top.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The top floor of a high rise.

[Monet X Change]

The top floor of a high rise.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If there is a. If there is. If. If the end of the. If we are in a kind of situation where people are now? Yeah. If. Like what's. What's the. What's the movie where they all break the law?

[Monet X Change]

Birch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. If we're in the purge, I want to be in the top four of a high rise.

[Monet X Change]

I guess that's not bad because then to get to you because, I mean, we're. Well, are we assuming that electricity Is not working.

[Jacob]

Working.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Electricity works.

[Monet X Change]

Then let's take an elevator to come up to your floor.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But the thing is, when you're in a high rise and I don't live in a high rise, but when you live in a. When you. I always thought this to myself, when you live in a large building, like the chances of you getting burgled are just less. There's so many apartments to choose from. They're just. So why would you choose my apartment? Like, what about my apartment would make you choose mine?

[Monet X Change]

That. The penthouse. The penthouse you saw. If someone is at the. It's at the, at the, the top. You're like, oh, they have a lot of money. I'm going to go there. They have the jewels. But I've never lived in it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, that's a good point. But I've never lived in a penthouse. So I would just live like three floors down. Like who's going to come to the. Who's going to come to the floor? Who's going to come to the 10th floor and look at the, the, the one on the third door on the left. Like why would you, why would you ever come to my apartment?

[Monet X Change]

Did you watch station 11? So I guess the, the. So if it's like a 20 story.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sorry. To answer your question, I've never seen session 11. What is that?

[Monet X Change]

It's supposed post apocalyptic. A post apocalyptic TV show on hbo. Max. I forget what happened to the world, but basically it's you know, the end times and oh, there's, oh, there's some virus that starts to get to people that start to get, that starts to get people sick and everyone is fine. But then like, you know like airport, airports and everything gets abandoned. Everything is abandoned. And did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're describing the current world. This is COVID 19. You're describing the real thing.

[Monet X Change]

I think it was something. It was like made after pandemic or it was like made during something like that. But yeah, it's, it's. It's a post apocalyptic. But if you haven't seen it, then there's a lot of context that I can't explain it anyway. So I guess. Yeah, so if it's like a 20 story building, you're saying live on like floor 17.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, well, and then be like in a random. Like why would you ever come to my apartment? Like why. Also if you're in the penthouse, you probably have a little bit of resources. You got to just pay people to protect you. But then you have to offer them something too. Like you have to give them something so they feel like you're getting something as well.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I mean, I don't know. But it's also at that point, like money is if, like banks and shit shut down. Money is finite. Like, hard you getting money to pay these people resources.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm looking at the video of you shooting now, and baby, you are fucking flatness. Every day. Flat foot. Every day. Your feet are so flat.

[Monet X Change]

Very flat feet. Wait.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Flatness. Your feet are so flat.

[Monet X Change]

Girl, look at that bullseye. I know. I have very. I have very flat feet. Very flat feet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know when you've been paint, it is just an oval with five little dots. Like, literally just a rectangle with five little dots above it.

[Monet X Change]

I look like some fucking Disney cartoon character.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, my feet are pretty flat too. But you. You take the cake. But yeah, I think that you have to have resources. You have to figure out what you can have. But also, you need to be basically a community leader. You need to figure out how to turn your.

[Monet X Change]

Your.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Your apartment building into a community and how you all can protect each other.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you know Costco has that doomsday box. Like, Costco is literally selling a thing. It costs, like, I don't know how much it costs. Can you look it up? It's like Costco has this thing that they sell and it good for like 12 years. It's like. It's like an emergency thing they're selling now. And I'm like, oh, God, should I buy one and have it just in the house?

[Jacob]

It's $120. It's like aund. It's. It's 104 meals, which is like, enough for one person for like one year, I think. Or. Yeah, multiple people for a little bit less.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How big is this box? I mean, I know you don't have that. Maybe. Maybe one day we'll review the doomsday box.

[Monet X Change]

Guys, we have so much anyway. I think a really great idea we could do. We. We can. We can review it on. At your. At Bob's new headquarters. What are. What do you. What are you going to call your new headquarters?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Your headquarters. Why? We got to.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, we can do it here too.

[Jacob]

I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't care.

[Monet X Change]

What. What are you going to call your new headquarters?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's Press First Productions, I think.

[Monet X Change]

I feel like you call it. Bob, Bob, Bob hq.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm trying to bite off Kamala style. I don't want to. I don't want to take away from her campaign. I don't want to distract Kamala hq. You know, you don't know about kama ski?

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, oh.

[Monet X Change]

I want a blue balla hat. Make America laugh Again hat. I want one so bad.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A blue balla hat.

[Monet X Change]

You know how Jonathan Trump has the Make American MAGA hats, and it's a red one. There's a blue one that says Make America laugh again. Like Kamala Mala M A L A, but they're not selling it on her site. So I'm like, I want to buy one that's actually going to contribute to campaign finance.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why don't you just buy one and then contribute to the campaign separately? I don't know why she didn't keep saying we're not going back. I thought that was going to be the official campaign slogan.

[Monet X Change]

It's not. What is the. What is. What's the official campaign slogan?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe it is. I just haven't heard her saying as much as. I mean, I guess I haven't really heard Trump say make America great again in a really long time. I actually don't know that I've heard him say those words in a really long time. But I was hoping to see more. We're not going back, bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Her at her fucking Atlanta rally was so good. And you know what? It's all these fucking. I get so upset about black people who. And I said black. I mean, I'm not. I'm not going to call black, but the. The has said she ain't black. And then when people said that she said that she ain't black, she's like, I didn't say that. People like Amber Rose and people like, well, here's a clip of you saying that you're not black. You dumb. Like, she, like, she. She did an interview. She was like, you know, wait, real quick.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sorry. Sorry to jump in, but I want to point out that everyone who jumped down my throat about Tyler, Tyler went on the Breakfast Club and said the exact same thing I said.

[Monet X Change]

What she said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Tyler. Tyler went back on the car on the, on the, on the. I was like, just so you guys know. And your race to be your race, social construct, so depending on where you are, you will be considered something different. So in America, Tyler's black, and in South Africa, she's colored. And then she went on the Breakfast Club and said pretty much verbatim that she was like, yeah, I'm black. In different places, I'm considered black. So for all of you who are in these streets so wearing up and down, I was. Y' all want me to be wrong so bad. Y' all wake up in the morning and drink on Haterade, praying for the day that I'll be wrong. And Tyla herself was like, yeah, I'm black in America. I understand that. I'm black. Anyway, I felt vindicated.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, the dumb bitch Amber Rose was. She did this interview for Fox or some bullshit. They were like, what do you think about Megan Eason performing at Kamala. At Kamala Harris's rally? And she's like. And basically talking down about, like, how, like, she feels like it's pandering to black people. People. I'm like, there is nothing wrong with enjoying and embracing black culture at a fucking rally for our president for now, our Democratic president elect who is fucking black. Like, I. Sometimes I feel like the shame of black people to enjoy black things. And I'm like, why can we not? Like, why? What is. What is the problem with having Megan and Quavo and Tyler the Creator performing at this rally, which was predominantly black people? Like what? Like what? And even if. And even if they even was all white people, what is the problem with that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On the topic of Amber Rose being black, I will say this. Like I said to Iguya, you cannot be a unblocked, unblacked. Whether we like Amber Rose or not, if she has a black parent, she's black. I don't know what her parents look like.

[Monet X Change]

But you know what she says she's not black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Again, you. You can't unblack yourself like Monet. If you decide you're not black, that doesn't make you not black. That's not how being black works. You can't just decide one day you're not black.

[Monet X Change]

I know, I know. I can't. But what she expressed, and neither can Amber Rose.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Amber Rose also candidize. She's not black.

[Monet X Change]

What she's expressed in that interview, she's saying that she doesn't like what she was based. She didn't say those. These words exactly, but she was suggesting that she does not have black experiences because that is not experience. Like, she's saying that that is not her experience when she steps onto the world. So I have to take her word.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I understand what she's saying, but that doesn't make you not black. You cannot unblack yourself. So that's what I'm saying. Like, you're. You don't get to be.

[Monet X Change]

We.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We don't get to make someone black when we like them and make them not black when we don't like them anymore. If. Am. I don't know Ambrose's parents, but if Ambrose has a black parent. She's black. And that just is what it is.

[Monet X Change]

But also, I'm going to. By what you tell me to. To. To refer to you as. And respect you as. That's also the. I think.

[Advertisement Voice]

Think.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. You cannot unblack yourself.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is Rachel Dozal black? Is Rachel do all black?

[Monet X Change]

Who? To chinosa.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is Rachel Doll black? That's what she told you to refer

[Monet X Change]

to her as, apparently. But I will say this. Before we knew the thing, Rachel Dolezal was having a black experience. Like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But is she black?

[Monet X Change]

No, she's not black. But you said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Whatever you asked me to refer to you as, that's on the call.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I'm saying, but without context. If I just saw. If Rachel Dolezal dropped off my mail today, I would think it was a black lady dropping off my mail. So I would give her. So.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So we have context.

[Monet X Change]

Rachel is having a black experience.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, she is having you. You can have black experiences. You can. You can have a trans experience and not be trans. You can have a black experience and not be black. But you said. Whatever you tell me, that's what I'm gonna call you. So. Based on what you. Based on that you like. I'm not. I'm. I'm not calling her black because she says she's not black. So I'm trying to see how linear the logic is. So is Rachel do all black? Not that you have black experience? Is she black?

[Monet X Change]

But I will say this. Rachel Zo is now saying that she's not black. She should not refer to it as that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think that's what she's saying.

[Monet X Change]

Y. After the whole. Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think Rachel. Rachel. She. More. From what I understand, her name's not Rachel anymore. But she. I can't remember. I don't. I can't remember her name. But she's more than double down. She's triple down. I'm still black, Roberta.

[Monet X Change]

I think when she got called out and she got dragged by the thing, she rescinded her. Look it up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think that's true, but you're missing the point of what I'm saying. It's not what you. It's not what you identify yourself as. It is not what you identify yourself as. Yeah. Her name is Nkechi. Amari Diallo is an American former college instructor and activist known for presenting herself as a black woman. She is also a former. It doesn't say whether or not she still says she's black, though.

[Monet X Change]

I'll tell you one thing, she's black in an amber rose.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I'm just saying. But you get what I'm saying, though,

[Monet X Change]

Ryan, I get what your point is, but I don't think that. I don't think. I don't think it's. I don't think it's black and white like that, though. I think that if a black person. He's hot. I think if a black person is telling you or what someone we perceived as black and saying, like, I'm not black. I don't have the experience.

[Jacob]

Experience.

[Monet X Change]

I'm going to say, okay, then I'm not going to offer that to you because you're saying that that is not the experience you have and that you're not black. So work. But if a white person is coming up to me and saying, hey, I'm black, I know that. That, that, that. That is a different thing. Like a white person coming to me and telling me, hey, I'm black, and refer to me as a black person, I'm like, but you're not. That is different.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you think you can unblack yourself? You can. You can just be unblacked?

[Monet X Change]

Yes, depending on your experience. Which Amaro is the same. She's like, I don't have black experiences and I'm not black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But every experience that a black person has is a black experience.

[Monet X Change]

But she's saying she's not having those black experiences.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, but every experience you have is a black experience. Every experience you have is a black. So when you went archering, even though a lot of black folks don't do archery, that's still a black experience. Like, for example, Barack Obama being the president was a black experience, even though no other black person ever had that experience. So now being the president is indeed a black experience. So that's what I'm saying. You cannot unblack. You can't be unblacked. Even when it's good, Even when you like the person or you don't like the person. The person. If you're black, you are black, and that just is what it is.

[Monet X Change]

But also, who are we to say that she's having a black experience because she's black?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Every experience you have as a black person is a black experience.

[Monet X Change]

But I don't think there are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There are shared black experiences. Do. I don't think.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think. I don't think. I don't. Pun intended. I don't think it's black and white like that. Like, I'm like, first example.

[Jacob]

Right.

[Monet X Change]

Let's say Andy Had. No, I mean, and I get what you're saying, because she has, because of the one drop rule. Because she has blackness in her, even though no one perceives her as black. And we don't know, and we may not know that she's black just because she is. She's have like for example, if fucking Joe Biden, we find out that he is an octoroon and he has black in him, then he's having the black experience. Like, then like so, like where's the line? So like if you're a fucking, I don't know the number a fucking decaroon. And generation to generation ago you have black. Are you, are you now having a black experience because your great great grandfather was black? Like where's the line? Is it only your parents? Is it up to your grandparents? Like how do we draw that? How we delineate that line?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, a lot of this phenotype.

[Monet X Change]

I'm so sorry, I'm going to mute when I'm not talking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A lot of it is, a lot of it is phenotype, which is basically like your genetic and how you look. And some part of phenotype is also what you alter yourself to be as well. And not only that, but like someone like Lena Horne, right? Lena Horne had a period of time in Hollywood where she was presenting white. It did not last very long. She pretty much came out black and loud and proud. And that was kind of just part of what a lot of people did at that time. If they could pass, then they would pass. But even the process of trying to pass for white was indeed still a black experience.

[Monet X Change]

I agree with you, but I'm saying, like, where do we draw this line? Like where does it, like where does the line stop at? Who is having a black experience? Like how far back do we, do we stop it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I'll say the line certainly doesn't stop at your parents, right?

[Monet X Change]

So I'm saying, but where is it then? Like we have like who, like who's have like was, was, was Carol Channing having a black experience? Because she's, because she's in the octo room and you know what I mean? Like how do we find who, who decides that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I guess that it is maybe a societal thing because racism, race, construct. So if you're being, if you're being perceived as black and there have been moments where Amber Rose was perceived as black, by the way, this is not me caping or advocating for Amber Rose. It's just, it's just to, to complete my thesis. Where you cannot be unblacked.

[Monet X Change]

I, I, I agree that you cannot be unblocked, but I think there are nuances in, in, in deciding or delineating when that is the case and when it's not. That's all I'm saying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then you ask yourself, when do you redo it? Like, for example, what if you have. What if, what if your parents are both black? Their parents are both black, but you're not having, quote, unquote, black experience? Experience this. Then can you say you're not that? If that person tells you they're not black, do you believe them? I mean, when they tell you they're not black, are you like, okay, well, they're not black?

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I think, I think it's, it's, it's kind of like school towards home. I like how they're perceived. Right. If that person is presenting like they

[Bob the Drag Queen]

look black, they, they look like me

[Monet X Change]

or you like, they look like you're me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but they're telling you. I, My experiences don't. I was raised in a white neighborhood. All my friends are white. I went to a white school. I have a white job.

[Monet X Change]

Then I think phenotype comes into place. Like, like I'm seeing a black person.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But their experiences don't feel, but they're not having, but they don't feel like they're having black experiences, though.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I, I, I don't know. I, I don't know. I am not, I am not a,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not a, a cultural, a sociologist, anthropologist.

[Monet X Change]

I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't know if that's, I don't know if that's the. I, I think, I think it's, it's, it's a very nuanced conversation and, but

[Bob the Drag Queen]

okay, one black parent, one white parent, and they're like, I have light skin and I have a nice Dr. Straighten my hair.

[Monet X Change]

We're talking about, like, what you're being perceived as. I think Amber Rose is someone like, for example. No, this is a real thing. Andy did not realize that Amber Rose was black. And again, that's not for Andy. And he's a white person. That is none of his fucking business. But in, in phenotype or what she, how she presents, how she looks. Andy didn't know. I was like, yeah. She's like. I was like, oh, work, not work. He was like, he's like, I can't, like, how is she going online and saying all this stuff? I'm like, people are fucking crazy. But that I Mean, there are people

[Bob the Drag Queen]

who didn't know that Mariah Carey is black. It doesn't make her not black.

[Monet X Change]

Know she was black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's crazy to me.

[Monet X Change]

I didn't. Growing up, I did not know she. I thought that was a white lady.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is. I just don't see how you can look at Mariah Care and see a white lady.

[Monet X Change]

Can y' all come? Okay, sorry. That's the whole problem.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not. Can y' all comment if Mariah Carey is black? That's crazy.

[Monet X Change]

As I was gonna say. I was gonna say how many people when they were younger didn't, like, didn't know? Like, I cannot be the only one who didn't know that Mariah Carey was black as a kid.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's interesting, I'm sure. So maybe someone else there. I said, like I said, there are people who thought Mariah Carey is white. Which, to me, it was clear that she wasn't white. But then again, a lot of folks thought Richard Oz.

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[Monet X Change]

All right, I think we have to end the podcast here today, baby.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, you got somewhere to be?

[Monet X Change]

I do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You going to go help with the construction?

[Monet X Change]

It's your friend's birthday that you're choosing to miss his birthday again?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, it's not his birthday. I actually took him out for his birthday. I bought him a cupcake. I was. Me and Jacob were the first people to say happy birthday to him on his actual birthday. We. That's how much we cared.

[Monet X Change]

Okay?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I care so much that I called him randomly and he was like, oh, it's my birthday. I was like, oh, we went and saw Deadpool vs. Wolverine.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. What? You. What did you think of it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I thought it wasn't as funny as the other two. The first one was just so funny. But it was so good.

[Monet X Change]

I thought it good, too. I thought that by the third, like, I was a little over him and Wolverine constantly just mutilating each other. Like, it lost some of the fun for me with that. And I think the third fight, when it was him and Wolverine fighting all the Deadpools, I was like, this is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Some people seem really upset by all the gay jokes, but is it weird that I was like, I don't care.

[Monet X Change]

I don't care. I don't think I was a mother by that at all.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was like, I was at this party last night, someone was like, what do you think of all the gay jokes? And I was like, girl, I didn't think about those fucking gay jokes.

[Monet X Change]

Like, what people think that we should, like gay people were offended by them because. Because he's not gay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe she was offended. I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

I love you so much and I'm so happy that we got to reconnect. I can't wait for you to come back home. Although, even though that seems like you're never going to be home again, that

[Bob the Drag Queen]

should be Kamala Harris. The campaign slogan.

[Monet X Change]

No. And Baro's going to say it's. It's. It's. It's also. Anyway, we'll. We'll talk about a Kamala a lot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have so many knows about pandering to the black community. Might be Amber Rose. Maybe she's an expert in this field.

[Monet X Change]

I have so many thoughts. We're gonna keep on talking about this for the next couple of months and hopefully a couple years.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Turn your head again. Turn your head, look back again.

[Monet X Change]

Why is this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is this tendon in your neck?

[Monet X Change]

Tint on my neck.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Tendon. Look back. What is this tendon in your neck?

[Monet X Change]

It's called. Are you talking about this?

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

What the is this, girl? That's. That's your aorta. That is like the biggest vein.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not your aorta. That is not your aorta. That's also not where your aorta.

[Monet X Change]

Where's your aorta?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's in your heart.

[Monet X Change]

No, your aorta. No, your aorta comes to your neck. And now to quote you, that is not up for debate.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think your aorta is in your chest. I'm always part of your aorta.

[Monet X Change]

I am 100% positive your aorta comes up through here. 1. Not even up for debate.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob, where is the aorta?

[Jacob]

You're both right. It's the main. It's. It's in your heart and it takes. It's like a main vein. So it goes from your heart up through your neck.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you. And on that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, you said. You said it wasn't in the. You said it wasn't in the heart.

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You said it wasn't in the heart.

[Monet X Change]

I did not say it was in the heart. I said. I said your aorta is up here.

[Jacob]

The aorta is a cane shaped artery. It starts in the lower left chamber of your heart, and from there it extends up toward your head. A short distance below your neck.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A short distance below your neck. You're saying it goes up the neck?

[Jacob]

No, no, it does go up the neck. Oh. Actually, it. Let's look here. Let's look at this model I have. There's the picture.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The order does not go up through your neck. It connects to something that goes up through your neck, but the aura itself does not go up through your neck.

[Monet X Change]

Hold on. Yes, the aorta arches up here for the neck before curving back down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, the A is not in your neck. The order is not in your neck.

[Jacob]

That's what we were saying. It goes up. You can see it going up toward the neck and then coming back down. But this thing that you were describing on the side.

[Monet X Change]

I have a different anatomy than y'.

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[Monet X Change]

My anatomy is not the same as y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All. Basically, you just say you're wrong. Your A is not in your neck. It's. It's in your chest. You're wrong.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I have. I was presenting my X rays. My aorta goes right here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you just say you're wrong? Because you were so loud and wrong. Your aorta is not in your. It's in your chest. It is not in your neck.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, now it's not about your aorta. No, about my aorta.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, we need to. Because you're not. You're never gonna say you're wrong. I know you're wrong, and we're gonna. And on that note, thank you for coming on my show.

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