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Bob the Drag Queen
1-800-contacts. My name is Bob the Drag Queen.
Monet X Change
And I'm Monet X Change.
Bob the Drag Queen
And this is simply rivalry. On this week's episode, Monet preaches to the children with train station ministries.
Monet X Change
We talk about art.
Bob the Drag Queen
And we find out what made Monet say this.
Monet X Change
I feel like I was transported back to like cave people time, but only but like, like neocave people. And we find out what made Bob the Drag Queen say this.
Bob the Drag Queen
I know you had your keys on you. No, you. Your shit was jingling. You would like have them in your hand. Monet Macaroni X cheese. Monet Sex Change. What are all the names, all the other names that came up with for you? Monet Gender Affirming Surgery that didn't make sense. Monet Sex Change.
Monet X Change
Anyway. Oh, got it, got it. How are you, Bob?
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm in a great mood. Welcome back. I. Monet went to her. Her. Her birthday. Her aforementioned birthday celebration. Then it sounded like you had a lot of fun.
Monet X Change
I had a great time.
Bob the Drag Queen
Who was. Who was all there?
Monet X Change
A couple friends.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, okay.
Monet X Change
Well, I did invite you and Andy came, but you just. Well, I guess you. You had stuff to do yesterday.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I was working.
Monet X Change
What did you pick today?
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, when I picked up a friend from the airport yesterday.
Monet X Change
Who? A friend. Do I know this person?
Bob the Drag Queen
Basset. You know Basset?
Monet X Change
Basit. Basit.
Bob the Drag Queen
Basset. They're really dark skinned, non binary. Bassit Queen Singer. No, Basit. B A S I T. That's their name. That's Their real name, Basit. Anyway, picked up a. From the airport. We hung out for a little bit,
Monet X Change
and then I. Oh, Jacob's going through with the pictures. I feel like I've seen Busted before, but I'm not. I'm not, like. I'm not like. I don't. We've never spoken. Or maybe we have.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I don't think you and Busid have any overlap. And then I did something Watcher yesterday with Dahlia Sen and Girl. We recorded the juiciest Patreon exclusive content. It was. It was when we had his. We. We got that big fight that one time.
Monet X Change
You and Dahlia did.
Bob the Drag Queen
Me and Dalia Sin got into a fight on Twitter one time because I made a joke about her that she
Monet X Change
didn't like some of her going home.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes.
Monet X Change
And then I remember.
Bob the Drag Queen
And then. And then she exposed our tea.
Monet X Change
Oh, that. You guys hooked up.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, she exposed our tea on the Internet.
Monet X Change
And then you spoke about it before that. You talk about you. You.
Bob the Drag Queen
That is not true. Not with you, Monet. Yes, in person. I talked about it with you, but I never talked about. On the Internet or on the podcast or anything. She spilled our tea, girl. Which. Which was probably. I mean, I'm not, like, ashamed or anything, but I was like, oh, we're spilling our tea. Honey. Yes, honey.
Monet X Change
Like, did y', all, like, go in detail about what you did?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, no, no, not in detail. I mean, kind of. A little. A little bit. It was very fun. It was very juicy. Very fun. She is a real.
Monet X Change
This is juicy.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, it is. I mean, you've seen it. She posts on the Internet all the time. She. She got that Denali. Denali Fox ass. Girls bigger ass is bigger than Denali's.
Monet X Change
Oh, yeah. She. She also got, like, lipo, and she got a little fat transfer. Like.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, I don't know. I don't think. I thought. She's got lipo. I don't. I can't remember. I know she did. She did document her experience with.
Monet X Change
Yeah, with.
Bob the Drag Queen
With plastic surgery, with cosmetics procedures, with plastique tiara surgery. What did you call Your bleaching? Your bleaching. An aesthetic procedure.
Monet X Change
What did you call it? An aesthetic procedure, which, by the way, I want to again say anal bleaching. Maybe because I'm black, bitch. It does not work. It just. Anal bleaching.
Bob the Drag Queen
Maybe it's because your hole is just so dirty.
Monet X Change
That is disgusting to say.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm just kidding. Well, I think that obviously. I think hyperpigmentation is obviously more of an issue for Darker skinned people than it is for lighter skinned people.
Monet X Change
But it's even hyper. It's not hyper pigmented. I just wanted to. I don't know, it's. It's. It's.
Bob the Drag Queen
Post a picture of your anus on the Patreon Patreon exclusive and we'll all let you know. I'm sure there's a doctor in the Patreon who can tell us if your anus is hyperpigmented or if it's like. Just post a picture of your anus. You have one. I know you have a picture of your anus.
Monet X Change
It's supposed to be like, to tighten and to like, I don't know, to rejuvenate your butt, not just like, make it lighter.
Bob the Drag Queen
Did your butthole need to be tightened?
Monet X Change
I mean, I don't know. I don't think so. But I was like, hey, it's free, I'll do it. And I was like, girl, it feels and looks the same. Which is great, by the way.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you. Oh, we're in a new room. We're in the living room. Oh, my God, I just realized we're in the living room.
Monet X Change
Yeah. As you know, my lovely little darling angel baby Patricia is staying here for a few days. A few weeks.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's right.
Jacob
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
But you had fun at your birthday celebration, did you go to Mesopotamia again?
Monet X Change
I did not go to Mesopotamia. I did at one point think that I was. I felt like I was transported back to like cave people time, but only. But like neo cave people. So, like I was this. Because everyone was huddled around this fire. This fire.
Bob the Drag Queen
What is a Neo cave?
Monet X Change
I don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
What does that mean?
Monet X Change
Like, new cave person? Like, if cave people were to like, happen now with technology,
Bob the Drag Queen
why you always going to places that like these weird places that don't. Like, what is a. I don't know what Mesopotam. What does that even mean?
Monet X Change
Mesopotamia is like the ancient. Like, Mesopotamia is kind of like where Macedonia is like Middle east somewhere.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let me Google. I have no clue. Wherever you go is always obscure. It's a place. I can't be that we can't.
Monet X Change
You don't remember learning about Mesopotamia in school?
Bob the Drag Queen
Wait, Jacob's in the mic. What is Jacob?
Jacob
It's like Syria. That area.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, it's like Syria. I mean, I've known the word Mesopotamia, but I will be honest, it is a little lost on me. I'm a little bit confused as to where, what or when. Also money. Will you please, please, please get on the discord?
Monet X Change
Well, I didn't know. We set it up. Did they set it up for us?
Bob the Drag Queen
It has been set up. It is honestly so fun, and I'm having a blast. And I want you to come to the Discord and join us.
Monet X Change
Okay. I bet you we did not have a meeting. I didn't even know it was a thing. No one told me.
Bob the Drag Queen
We told you we were doing the Discord.
Monet X Change
Yeah, but we. I mean, this is backroom talk. We're supposed to have a whole meeting with hi. Juan about it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, well, maybe you were. Maybe you were in Neo. The Neo Cave.
Monet X Change
Anyway, so as a Neo Cave person, like, everyone was, like, sitting around the fire and then. And I felt like I was like their teachers. I was like. So I became this character. I was like. And I was like, that's very funny.
Bob the Drag Queen
And what were they. What were they saying?
Monet X Change
They were just learning. They were just staring at me. It was like. And I was like.
Bob the Drag Queen
And did you feel like you were communicating?
Monet X Change
No, I knew I wasn't saying real words. It was just. It was just, you know. You know, one thing that you and I will do, you and I will definitely commit to a bit. So it's a bit. I started, and I was like, I'm committed to this. And I did it about 20 times.
Bob the Drag Queen
Got it. But. So it didn't feel on the same level as your Mesopotamia trip?
Monet X Change
No, no. Mesotamia was on another level. Bitch. Bitch. I went to. I know you think I'm being, like, funny or whatever. I legitimately. I think my bot from, like, a. From like a previous life, I felt. I feel like I was really brought back to Mesopotamia at that time. It was great.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wait, do you believe in previous lives?
Monet X Change
I do and I don't. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. Oh, yeah.
Jacob
That's fair.
Bob the Drag Queen
How about astral projection?
Monet X Change
Oh, my. I mean, I've never astral projected, so I can't say if it's.
Bob the Drag Queen
But you went to Mesopotamia. Where did you go for real? I think you did astral projection.
Monet X Change
I guess. You do. But I feel like with astral projection, every time I've seen people talk about it or like they've done it, it's always been like.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I think you're right. It's like they see their bodies there and they're walking around in the real world, but they're not with their bodies. Is that what you're thinking?
Jacob
Right?
Monet X Change
Yeah. Yeah. And that's not what I was doing in Mesopotamia. I was going back to, like, old memories of, like, when I used to live in Mesopotamia.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know what used to bother me as a child watching movies? How ghosts can walk through walls, but they never fall through floors. That used to drive me crazy.
Monet X Change
Like, ghost. Do you ever see Ghost dad with Bill Cosby? Redacted, by the way, if you have
Bob the Drag Queen
not watched me talk about Cosby. Kamal did such a good job with that.
Monet X Change
Kamal Bell is so smart, bitch. He's so great. He's so funny. He's. I want to watch it. I don't have Showtime, so I need to, like, find a way to watch it. But Kamal Bell is so brilliant.
Bob the Drag Queen
I watched it on Amazon.
Monet X Change
I think it was on Amazon.
Bob the Drag Queen
But there's a chance that I do have Showtime, that my Amazon just automatically links it, because I bought Showtime because I wanted to watch the good Lord Bird on Showtime, which I didn't even finish because I just. It was just too slow for me. But there's a chance that I probably do have. I probably do still have Showtime, but I watched it on Amazon, which was just. Oh, my God, it was so good.
Monet X Change
A friend of mine in New York was saying that now that, you know, stuff is going. Stuff is pretty much back to normal in New York. The kids are starting Showtime. Showtime on the train again, you know, it's Showtime, but apparently they're just so rusty because they haven't done it in so long. Bitch, they are falling and hitting people now more than ever. That is wild cutting, bitches.
Bob the Drag Queen
If you go to. If you ever witnessed a Showtime on the train, it is flawless. These. These kids are like. They're like. They're. They're better than Cirque du Soleil. They don't touch people. They don't. It. It can be packed, and they will somehow seamlessly fly through this train without touching anyone. But I do love the notion also, bitch, I imagine all the niggas that were doing Showtime, they're fucking 50 now.
Monet X Change
Oh, my God.
Bob the Drag Queen
We've been in quarantine so long. All these Showtime n.
Monet X Change
My friend said she was on the A train and it is short time. And they literally, legitimately, she said they hit about five people. They hit one lady's purse on the floor. They kicked this one guy. I was like, oh, my God.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's no time is what it actually is.
Monet X Change
Should we start a Showtime tradition in la? Do you think we can be the Showtimes of la?
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know that. I mean, I have done Train performances before, and I've done.
Monet X Change
What'd you do?
Bob the Drag Queen
Me and Frosty Flakes and Honey Le Bronx used to get in drag and get on the trains. I only did a few times, but Honey and Frosty did a lot of times where they would get on the train. They would just. They would literally just sing Proud Mary. They would get on the train, sing Proud Mary, and people would just give them money. They'd be in full drag. You're on the train. Two drag queens get on the train singing Proud Mary, and then they go around and take money and they just get off the train. They used to make a lot of money doing that, too.
Monet X Change
You know, my friends and I used to do that in high school. We were. We called ourselves TSM Train Station Ministries. And we used to go. We used to go right to Times Square, you know, by the two entrance right there, like, the big time Square entrance. We'll go in the thing and turnstile. I think there's a video on YouTube. We'll put in the video of me and my friends in the video.
Bob the Drag Queen
Because y' all be dragging us when we don't actually get the videos and pictures.
Monet X Change
Wait, let me double check really quick. But, yeah, we used to. And we used to make bank. It was five of us, and we would, like, sing, like, gospel songs and make, like, money. Honey.
Bob the Drag Queen
Was it Train Station Ministries?
Monet X Change
Tsm Train Station Ministries.
Bob the Drag Queen
Did y' all preach?
Monet X Change
Dude, no, we didn't preach. We just sang.
Bob the Drag Queen
And what were some of the songs you were saying?
Monet X Change
One was this one that we learned at church called. It was, like, stuff from our choir. You know, I was in that church choir. Songs with Solomon. It was songs from that. It was like, I don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can you sing one for us, please?
Monet X Change
I'm trying to remember. Oh, my God. What are we saying? There's a song that Amelia used to lead.
Bob the Drag Queen
I can't remember. We used to sing a song that goes, Jesus, he will fix it for you oh, yes, he will he knows just what to do, what to do Whenever. Whenever you call him he'll help you get through and Jesus, he will fix it after all, you know what's so
Monet X Change
charming about your singing is that you don't. You don't kind of do it. You go full throttle or nothing. And I love that. It's very charming.
Bob the Drag Queen
That sounds like a read.
Monet X Change
It's not a read. It's not a read.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, you know, it's my commitment as a comedian. I know that comedy really works best when you commit, 100% commit to the bit. I try to just take that into my musical. Proud. I'm gonna. I'll say prowess. I'll say it. Prowess. Also Can I just say, all of your music friends, they remind me of music people. They remind me of the music department at my college, Arcia and dejuan. And is the one. The one that I met the first time. Who is the most. Just RC And De Juan. They just remind me of people from the music department at my school because I was a theater major. And the music majors, it was just. They were just different. It was like.
Monet X Change
I'm trying to explain it, because musicians are better than normal music.
Bob the Drag Queen
Other people who had cars before, like, they were the first people in their high school with cars. They were this, like. It's like this, like, teenager who's, like, kind of an adult, but also not a teenager. They just seem to be kind of further in life when it comes to adulting than the rest of us. Whereas theater majors are like children. Like, even in college, we're like ninth graders. Whereas something about the music, they just seem. But. But they still have artisticness to them. They all seem like they, like. Like they're already working in their field. They're all. They're already. These theater major music people are already like the choir director of a local church or the kind of person who always has their car keys in their hand or wears it around their neck on a lanyard. That's who. That's who black music majors are. The kind of. What I'm talking about is like, do you know. You know that video Calesta Day?
Monet X Change
Calesta Day. Is that a singer?
Bob the Drag Queen
You know this woman. I might be saying her name wrong.
Monet X Change
Oh, the one that says she sings
Bob the Drag Queen
really high and really low and she has a lanyard with keys on it. That's who a music major is. That is what? Black music. In my mind, that's a black. I know you used to carry your keys everywhere in college. I know you had your keys on you.
Monet X Change
I mean, that's everyone.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, your shit was jingling. You would, like, have them in your hand.
Monet X Change
Like, I have orange Jennifer keys.
Bob the Drag Queen
Everyone else put them in their pockets or their purse. But something about music major, they carry them, like, in their hands. They're always, like, leaving.
Monet X Change
You're so weird.
Bob the Drag Queen
What do you think about. There are no theater majors at your college because everyone was a music major.
Monet X Change
No, they had theater majors. They were the only department on the other campus.
Bob the Drag Queen
What did you think about the theater majors?
Monet X Change
Theater majors. They were always. Honestly, a lot of theater majors in my school just were pretty much the same person. Besides, like, the one token black kid that was like the. Like. Like the singer that would like, he Would do all of, like, the big roles. Everyone else was like a. A twinkie white boy or like a really femme white girl.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's so interesting. I wish you could have got part of me wish that we knew each other in college. Obviously, we were not in college at the same time because we're about five, four years apart, but, yeah, don't forget it. God, you're a monster. But I still wish that we could have, like, interacted or had some sort of a. I don't know. I just want. If we would have been friends in college, I think.
Monet X Change
I think. I think would have been friends. I think that I would have seen your extraness and how crazy you were, and I would have liked it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think that. But I also. But me from college, I wouldn't have been accessible because of my drinking and my drug use.
Monet X Change
And I go to parties and stuff in college all the time.
Bob the Drag Queen
I wasn't fun when I. I need to reiterate. I was not fun. It was. It's not like you and your friends drink. It's not like that. I was like, I wasn't going to Mesopotamia. Okay.
Monet X Change
Where are you going? To the pits of hell.
Bob the Drag Queen
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Monet X Change
And we're black. Yeah, I mean, I've said it before on the podcast. I would have loved to witness you a couple times when you were drinking. I know you said you weren't fun. I just cannot, Bob, because you're already crazy. You don't drink, and you are already on another level. I can't imagine what drinking does to you.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't drink, I don't think. But let me show you how I fell in this sink. It just. It was just. It was just goofy. Maybe. Maybe. You know, actually, I will one day get one of my old college friends, maybe Jaime, to come on the Patreon. I'm not saying when. Don't. Don't, like, mark your calendars, but I will get Jaime or maybe Shane, my roommates. From college to come on the podcast and talk about what I was like when I was drinking.
Monet X Change
Can I ask a favor?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. What's up?
Monet X Change
Next year, since it's your 13th year
Bob the Drag Queen
of sorority, June will be 14 years.
Monet X Change
14 years. So for my next birthday, do you want to just come and do just, like, a little mushrooms with me? Just mushrooms. Not alcohol. Just a little mushroom.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know? If I get to 20 years of sobriety, I will throw it all away for you. If I make it. If I make it. So I'll see you.
Monet X Change
Is that fair?
Bob the Drag Queen
So I'll see you in six years. If I make it that far.
Monet X Change
But, you know, sometimes people consider, like, doing drugs like art. Don't you think?
Bob the Drag Queen
I knew you were gonna. I don't know if I would consider doing drugs on art. I will say this. We talked to weed heads. Potheads or weed heads.
Monet X Change
You got me.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm trying to use your language. Weed heads. No, no.
Monet X Change
You were saying how that was your normal inclination to say weed heads. You know, it was. Don't you try to act like you're
Bob the Drag Queen
doing it for me.
Monet X Change
It really was not.
Bob the Drag Queen
When you talk to potheads about their behavior or, like, when you walk in. I saw a meme online that was like, you can literally walk into a cannabis shop and be like, I'm trying to fall asleep, but I don't want to be drowsy the next day. And I still want to be alert. And they'll just look at you pensively for, like, 10 seconds and go, have you tried smoking skibbly? Do pop pop or something? Like, they really be serious about this fucking weed.
Monet X Change
They do. They do. Because, I mean, also, like, back in the day, there just wasn't that much research, right? It's like, you bought weed. You did not know if it was indica, if it was sativa, if it was purple haze, bluegrass, whatever the fuck it is now. There are so many different strains, and they all dress. I mean, I don't know. I'm just saying words. I don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's music.
Monet X Change
All I know is sativa Indica. I don't know. I guess people get different ones for different flavors. They all taste pretty much the same to me. So kind of like alcohol. You talking about tequila? Tastes different. Vodka. Tequila and vodka taste the same to me. I do not taste the difference.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's categorically false. Monet. I can.
Monet X Change
It does not. That's me, bitch.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's just, I think that you're not allowing yourself a moment. Cause I can literally smell the difference. If you put a booze in front of my nose. I could blindfold it. I would be like, that's vodka. That's tequila.
Monet X Change
It's funny you say that because at. Because at the party, I brought that vodka you gave me. The cow. Cal. Cal. Cal. Pen Vodka. And it says vod called. You'd. Can't be serious. Vodka. And then everyone opened it. They were like, this isn't vodka. This is tequila. And I was like, mmm. And everyone was like. They were passing around, and they were like, girl, that's tequila. So. But it's vodka.
Bob the Drag Queen
The Andy char.
Monet X Change
Andy did not smell it.
Jacob
Oh.
Monet X Change
So everyone was like, girl, that's tequila. It's not vodka. And I'm like, I don't know. They all smell and taste the same to me. I don't smell a difference.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, y'.
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All.
Bob the Drag Queen
Y' all were in. Y' all were in the cave. Y' all niggas don't know. Hooda, hooda, hooda.
Monet X Change
I felt like Jay and Silent Bob. Have you seen. Not Jay and Silent Bob. It was that cartoon that used to be on Nickelodeon, and he was like a cave person with, like, a. It was like Prometheus and Bob. Maybe it was what it was called.
Bob the Drag Queen
You don't remember this? I know the name, but I never saw it, though.
Monet X Change
Okay. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think that if you let me sit down with you and. Okay, so the thing about tequila, first of all, tequila smells buttery.
Monet X Change
You say that. I don't. Tequila. I'm gonna. Hold on one second. I'm gonna pull up a bottle.
Bob the Drag Queen
Not me being a sommelier.
Monet X Change
I have two. I have Tito's and I have Casamigos. Tequila, I'm gonna smell. So tequila smells buttery, but.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, but you don't want to stick your. You don't want. It's not poppers. You don't want to get in there, just kind of waft it to you, and it has, like, a buttery smell to it.
Monet X Change
Okay, let me smell the. What?
Bob the Drag Queen
It smells like vodka smells closer to rubbing alcohol. Like, vodka doesn't have a good smell. The smell of vodka, it is almost like rubbing alcohol. Whereas I feel like tequila smells like rubbing alcohol with butter in it.
Monet X Change
Girl, this shit smells the same. I'm not even doing a thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
I wish I could swap them around and have you close. I wish I could, like, do this
Monet X Change
in front of you.
Bob the Drag Queen
Just taste a little taste.
Monet X Change
Oh, God. Really?
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. And then you cannot tell me that tastes like this Tequila. For example, if I. If I made you a margarita with vodka, you'd be like, what is this?
Monet X Change
Maybe I'm just a dumb girl.
Bob the Drag Queen
Maybe your taste buds are damaged from all the. All the spicy food you.
Monet X Change
You've been eating since you.
Bob the Drag Queen
Since childhood.
Monet X Change
But I love my food spicy.
Bob the Drag Queen
One day, I'll make you a cosmo with tequila, and you'll be like, this doesn't make sense. And then I'll make you a margarita with vodka, and you'll be like, again, it doesn't make sense because it does taste significantly different. That's why margaritas have tequila and, you know, cosmos have vodka, but not. Anyway, that's just my background as a. As a. As a mixologist.
Monet X Change
But again, mixology is an artist.
Bob the Drag Queen
I. I would say I was very good at it. I'm telling right now.
Jacob
I can't.
Bob the Drag Queen
I've never made your cocktail before, but I can make great cocktails.
Monet X Change
I'm really makes great cocktails, too, actually.
Bob the Drag Queen
The sober ones. Listen, we know because we. We've drank all of it, so we know what's good and what's not. And gin has this taste that's kind of like metal.
Jacob
Y.
Bob the Drag Queen
Gin is a little metallic in taste.
Monet X Change
Huh?
Bob the Drag Queen
And whiskey is a little, like, burnt in taste. And rum is a little fruity in taste. Rum's a little fruity. Gin's a little metallic. Tequila's a little buttery. What are you saying, Jacob?
Monet X Change
What did Jacob say?
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob said, let's move to the topic. We get off topic sometimes. Jacob. Anyway, tell me about this art behind you. What's your favorite piece of art in your house?
Monet X Change
My favorite piece of art in my home is probably this one. This was. I think I've told a story before. I was. I was on Instagram and one of those random days when you check your request folder, and this guy sent me a message. He was. Of this picture, and he's like, hey, Monet, I painted this little picture of you. He was like, I would love for you to see it. So I opened it. I was like, oh, my God, that's so cute. I was like, you know what? I'd like to buy it from you. And he was like, really? I was like, yeah, I'll buy it from you. And then I was like, you tell me how much, and then I'll pay for shipping. Da, da, da. And he told me that it was like, €2,000. I was like, €2,000. I was like, bitch. Is you, Banksy? Is you fucking Basquiat, bitch? I was like, $2,000? Cause in my mind, I thought it was. Cause the way he sent me the picture, I thought it was maybe this big. I was like, oh, it's like a little hand thing he did. And I was like, okay. I was like, I'm not trying to. I don't want to devalue your work. I don't. You know, I was not expecting to spend €2,000 for this picture. And he was like, yeah, that's how much it costs. And I was like, okay, how much does it weigh? What are the dimensions? And he was like. When he sent me the dimension, I was like, oh, it's like six feet tall. I was like, this is crazy. So I ended up buying it from him. And it's one of my favorite pieces in my home. I know it's of me. It's a little vain, but I love this picture very much.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's very.
Monet X Change
I also love the ass one. The ass one is great.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, that ass. Yeah, the lady in the shower.
Monet X Change
Yeah, the lady in the shower is gorge.
Bob the Drag Queen
And we'll post a picture. Monet will post a picture. Who did that? Now, talk about the one about how you got that one. Old lady in the shower.
Monet X Change
Yeah. So I was walking through SoHo in New York City, and then I was going to the Birkenstock shop. The Birkenstock shop. And then this guy this afternoon. I love Birkenstocks. You wear Birkenstocks all the time, Roberta.
Bob the Drag Queen
Now you wear TOMS all the time.
Monet X Change
No, that's Birkenstocks. You wear them.
Bob the Drag Queen
Toms used to wear monetization.
Monet X Change
I used to wear TOMS all the time, y'.
Bob the Drag Queen
All. It would be. If you know what toms are. Toms are basically socks with a little bit of rubber on the bottom. Monet would be in the snow. Monet would be in the. In this. It would be raining outside. And Monet would be wearing these toms. It did not matter. The weather. And when I said. When I said these helmets were on their last leg, honey. They started out as Thomases, and they became Tom's when they wore them down.
Monet X Change
Well, also, my feet run hot. Like, my feet run hot. So even if it would be, like, super cold outside, my feet would always be, like, great. My feet would not be cold. I have hot feet. Mmm. Post a picture. I was walking in soho, and this African man was on the corner, and he was selling paintings, and he had these little portraits, kind of like this last guy, little portraits. And I was like, oh, my God, your artwork. And it's all women with big butts. I have three of the small ones and the big one. And then I was like, you Know what? I'd like to buy some of this. And he was like, really? I was like, yeah, you're selling it. I want to buy some of it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Ain't you selling on the street?
Monet X Change
You know? And then he goes on. He was like, you know, I haven't had business in so long. This is really great. I'll give you whatever deal you want. I was like, no, I don't want a deal. I want to buy this work from you. And then so I bought the big one from him, and he gave me the three small ones. I was like, I want to pay for the three small ones. He's like, no, please. And then. So he just. Yeah. And he was very sweet, and it was great.
Bob the Drag Queen
How much did the picture cost?
Monet X Change
The picture was $500.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, that's a great deal. And it's pretty big.
Monet X Change
It's a great deal. It's a big picture. What's your favorite art? You have all those red stencil ones?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, they're being framed right now. That's from an artist named Rom that Jacob went to college with, who was actually got named in the 30 under 30 in Forbes, which is, like a way to make an impact when you're under 30 years old. It's like young people in business. And he got named for that. And he's really, really talented. And we. We. There are these, like, sketches that he was doing. Not sketches. They're like. They're smaller, little, like, doodles. Because he does these, like, big, big canvas pieces, but they're, like, small, and they're on paper. And then we. We bought them all. It's like a collection of his artwork to put in this frame, which we're really excited about. We got them all framed. We don't have them back yet, but can I show you. And I will show you pictures of those. I'm gonna show you my favorite work of art in the house, though. I will be right back. Jacob is so over me right now. I'll be right back. So this actually was from a podcast sponsor. What's it called?
Monet X Change
Yeah. And both of y'.
Bob the Drag Queen
All.
Monet X Change
Both of y' all cashed in on it, and I didn't get the sponsorship. Y', all, you.
Sponsor/Ad Voice
And.
Monet X Change
Because you and Jacob both have one, and y'.
Jacob
All.
Monet X Change
Both. You used yours and mine.
Bob the Drag Queen
You can still get one.
Monet X Change
Okay, well, then how about you. How about you run me my coupon?
Bob the Drag Queen
Monae, no one's holding yours from you. You can still have one. You are still perfectly okay.
Monet X Change
What's my coupon code, bitch?
Bob the Drag Queen
I Don't know. We'll get it to you after the podcast, but there you still have one. Also, I want to remind you guys, people send us stuff on the podcast and all of Monet's shit is at my house. I bring it to her house. She goes, I don't. I don't want. I have STD kits in this house. I'm stacking up lotion. I have the massive boxes of wine. I don't even drink. I'm just housing Monat. Monat lives in a massive home, bigger than mine. I'm just holding Monet shit over here.
Monet X Change
Our houses are the same size. I just have two floors. You have. You see this? Okay, three floors. The gaslighting Queen. But I'll talk about. This is. Oh, my God. My home is not massive. Bigger than Bob's. Our houses are about the same size. Mine is just two levels. Bob, Actually, yours is bigger than mine. Yours is 2,000 square feet. Yours is 2,000 sq ft. Is it not? Is it? Is it or is it not?
Bob the Drag Queen
It is not. My apartment is 1700 square feet. A modest 1700 square feet.
Monet X Change
Wow. Must be nice. Big flex.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's not that big, Monet. That's a standard size home.
Monet X Change
I mean, I'm just saying.
Bob the Drag Queen
I would tell. I drive a Toyota. I live in an apartment. I'm not living this. I'm not living this crazy life y' all think I'm living. I drive a Toyota and I live in a three bedroom apartment.
Monet X Change
Bob got two homes. Bob got a car? No. Between you and your partners, you have two cars, two homes.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't own. You do everything.
Monet X Change
You do everything in couples. Two cars, two homes, two boyfriends.
Bob the Drag Queen
You have a bus. And y' all niggas own a cabin in the woods, don't you? Since everything's in groups anyway. Wait, what's the name of this painting thing? Baby, Paint my life. So I have one in the other room. I'll show you a picture of that one, too. But this picture of Jacob. Jacob, would you want to join the podcast for one second, talk about your feelings on this? It is so great. By the way, everyone who sees a picture loves it.
Monet X Change
I want to say this. I see that you're decorating your home with lots of art, and that was not. I think you got that from somewhere.
Jacob
From me. You're right.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. You created the idea of having art in your home. Okay, first of all, since you met me in New York City, I had two massive pictures on my wall. I didn't have that much wall space. I Had a picture of Jackie Beat, a picture of myself, and then I had my friends do paintings, which I. Which I've had. I also had this painting on my wall.
Monet X Change
I'm just saying, you know, I've had very big pieces of art on my walls for a long time now. And, you know, that's nice that you do as well.
Bob the Drag Queen
That massive Jackie Bean picture is not tiny Monae. Anyways, and anyway, so, yeah, so I really, honestly. I truly recommend you all get these paintings. They're. They're honestly. So what you do is you sit and. This is not. They've already paid it. This is not another payment they're giving us. They are. They paid us once, and they. They haven't advertised with us since then. But what I will say is you send them a picture, and then they just send you back an actual painting they, like, hire. I do wish they let the artist sign the painting, though. That's the only thing I wish. The artist doesn't sign it, but the artist. It does come with, like, a note, sound like this was made by so and so, but it does not let that they don't sign the painting, which I wish they would do.
Monet X Change
When you. When you lived in New York, did you go to a lot of the art museums in New York? I regrettingly did not. I did not go to any museums in New York, only the Museum of Natural History. And I was on, like, a high school field trip.
Bob the Drag Queen
I went to the Met for China through the Looking Glass. I. I went to the MoMA on one of their free nights. They used to do free every Monday or every Wednesday or something. I. I went to PS1 for a. For a PS1.
Monet X Change
PS1. What is that? Where is that?
Bob the Drag Queen
PS1 is like the Momas Queens location.
Monet X Change
Okay?
Bob the Drag Queen
It's like the moment in Queens. And I went there for a. What do you call it? Performance art piece. It was actually. Let me tell you about this. It was really interesting, actually. So it was this piece where this. I want to give a trigger warning for sexual misconduct and sexual assault. This is your trigger warning. I'm gonna say it again. This is your trigger warning for sexual misconduct and sexual assault. So this guy advertised his. His show that he was gonna. He was gonna rape someone at the show. He was like, someone's gonna get raped at this show. So everyone.
Monet X Change
Wait, this is. This is the artist who said this?
Bob the Drag Queen
This is the artist? Yes. Part of his performance was that he was gonna rape someone. Like, really? This is what he said. Let me get through the story. So me and Ms. Cracker went together, me and Ms. Cracker. Cracker took me to this, actually.
Monet X Change
And he was just in hotel being raped.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let me get through this story.
Monet X Change
I'm gagged.
Bob the Drag Queen
So we. He's like. He was like, one of the biggest artists in performance art at the time. He was. He's like. He's one of the. What's that lady Jacob? The big lady who did the. The gun feather trick.
Jacob
Gun feather. Marina Brovovich.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, he's like the Marina Abravic of of now, basically. So there's, like, there. So he. He was like, all right, so you go to the show, and then he's just laying in the middle of the room. We all go into the room. He's just in the middle of the room, face nude, face down, right? And then he's like, I need help moving my body. So he's like, I need a volunteer to, like, lift my right leg. And then they would, like, scrunch the leg. He, like, now pull up my shoulder. And then people would, like, move him around. He's completely nude. He's like. He's maybe like a. Maybe like a five, nine, black guy, average Bill. So he's like. He's like, now put my hand on my head and point my finger toward the sky. But he's not moving his own body. Someone else has to move his body. So this goes on for, like, 20, 30 minutes, and then he leaves the room, and then he comes back dressed, and he goes, all right, now's the moment that you all have been waiting for. Now I'm gonna. I'm gonna rape someone. Now is the moment where I rape someone. And then he goes, if you are okay with. This is where it gets weird. He's like, if you're okay with me raping you, then stay on this side of the room. If you don't want to get raped, move to that side. So a bunch of people. He was kind of like, it. Actually, it started off, he was like, if you're okay with me pulling your hair, stay on the side of the room. It started with, like, that, and that's
Monet X Change
not quite what it was, so it graduated.
Bob the Drag Queen
So a bunch of people moved. And then some folks were comfortable, so he, like, kind of tugged their hair a little bit. He goes, all right, if you're okay with me forcefully kissing you or stay on this side. Then more people moved, and then he's like, all right, if you want to get raped, stay over here. And then everyone moved except this one lady. It was just this one white lady. Everyone's on this side. But this one white lady is, like, toe to toe with him. And he's like, you really want this? And she's like, yeah, do it. And he's like, wait, you. You really. Because I'm gonna. I'm actually gonna do it now. And she goes, yeah, do your best. Do what you got to do. And then right when he was, like, going to do that, this other lady walked into the room. And when she walked in, everyone started cheering. She was like the other Marina Abramovich of this time. She was like another massive person in the. In the world of performance art. It was. It'd be like if Beyonce was doing a concert. And then. Then, like, Lady Gaga showed up. Everyone was like, oh, my God, what is she doing here? And she was like, don't do this. You can't do this. This is not okay. And then he was like, but she wants it. Look at her. She's standing here. She wants me to do it. And he was like. And she's like, but what does it mean? And then it was this whole thing. And then. And then he didn't rape her. And then the performance was over. And that was the whole.
Monet X Change
Do you think it was. Do you think that was part of the performance?
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know. It was re. It was so. Okay. I think that her coming in was part of the performance. I don't know if the lady standing there was part of it, because she was. It was like she was, like, going through something herself. It was like she was gonna. Like, she was really challenging him. It was like she was mad about what he was doing almost. She was, like, upset or something. And she was just, like, giving him a really hard time. But she was also being like, if you're gonna rape me, then rape me now. Do it. If you're gonna do it, then do it.
Monet X Change
It was probably part of the whole. The whole thing. Because, I mean, again, that's what probably made it so electrifying, right, that someone really was there trying to get raped and he was gonna do it.
Bob the Drag Queen
And it was very. I mean, it was very uncomfortable. Cause we started off kind of, like, giggling. Cause we were so uncomfortable. And he was like, I'll pull your hair. It was like, I'll touch your body. I'll kiss you. And then finally, the big deal. And we were all standing on one side, just watch. Just looking, like, not knowing what to do. Even though there were probably, like 60 or 70 of us just in this big open room, this big, empty white room, watching this guy, like, aggress this woman. It was very strange.
Monet X Change
Yeah. I've never seen performance art. I would like to go see some good performance art, but I've never. I've never seen it. I mean, and I would. I would love to. Patti is so stupid. Patty, we talk about the rape thing. Patti was like, are y' all talking about me?
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my God. Patty. A mess, right?
Monet X Change
Yeah, I've never been. I've never seen performance art. But performance art does. There's this episode of Sex in the City when Carrie starts dating the Russian guy. And where she meets him at, she's at this. And I think it might be the Iran Maana Brovich lady. You talking about Marina.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you know Marina? I'll tell you about her. After Maria. I think her name is Maria.
Monet X Change
Maria Brovovich.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, no. Marina Abramovich. Yeah, I'll tell you about her in a second, but go ahead.
Monet X Change
And it's a woman. She's in this big white room, and then she has, like, a ladder of knives, and then she's on the top of this thing, and then she doesn't. The Exhibit is open 24 hours for a week or something like that. And people can just go watch her. And then she's not eating. She's not doing anything for a week. Sistering up there. And it was a really interesting art piece. But, yeah, I've never seen performers art, but I would like to.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know.
Monet X Change
There had to be some good ones. I want to see some, like, some really crazy shit.
Bob the Drag Queen
So Marina Abramovic is probably the most famous performance artist in the world. She's probably the most famous performance artist alive right now. And she did this famous piece, and I'm gonna misquote it. I'm sure Jacob can help us out with this. She put, like, a gun, a bullet, a knife, a feather, and, like, something else on this table. And she just sat down and she just let people come in and do anything they wanted to her. She would not stop them. She would just sit there, and they can do whatever they want to her body. Some people. Some people cut her with a knife. Some people. Some people tickled her with a feather.
Monet X Change
People really cut her with a knife?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes, people actually cut her, like, just, like, do, like, little cut in her body with a knife. And then apparently at one point, this guy put the bullet in the gun and then put the bullet put the gun to her head.
Monet X Change
Well, now what if he would. Now what if he would have killed her ass and blew her brains out? Then what?
Bob the Drag Queen
Then maybe she would have. I Mean, she already had the most iconic performance art piece of all time, but it would have been even crazier. What's the name of the piece here, baby? Do you remember the name Jacob told me about?
Monet X Change
It's called Gun, Feather, Tickle.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wait, Marina.
Monet X Change
And this is not the lady from Sex in the City. This is not the lady that was Sex in the City.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I don't think Marina and Bromovic is still. Is. I don't think she does spots on Sex in the City. But it could have been based. It could have been based on her, though.
Monet X Change
Based on her. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
So it was. It's called Rhythm Zero. I. I recommend y' all look it up. It's called Rhythm Zero. But, yeah, she. She is. It's like a huge piece that she would just let. And at some point, it escalates to a point where this guy had a gun to her head in this room. I kind of want to get involved in performance art. I've kind of always wanted.
Monet X Change
I'm just about to ask you. I was like, would you do a crazy performance arts piece?
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I want to do it anonymously, though. Like, I. I want to, like, just put on.
Monet X Change
Just put on a more suit.
Jacob
And it was Marina in Sex in the City.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, it was actually Marina. Oh, Marina actually did the Sex and City spot. I guess she was spoofing herself. Or was it. Was she playing herself or playing. Playing.
Jacob
I mean, it's two different things. One is, a lot of the times Marina will have other people do her performance art afterwards. So Marina did recreate a piece she did for Sex in the City.
Bob the Drag Queen
Got it. Got it.
Jacob
I don't remember if it was actually her, but it was a Marina piece.
Bob the Drag Queen
A Marina piece. But, yeah, I kind of want to. I've always wanted to have this anonymous second Persona who can go and do these interesting art pieces, but I don't want anyone to know that it's me. I don't want my. My. My current, like, public status or my current public image to taint the piece or change people's perception of it, you know?
Monet X Change
Yeah. I mean, I want to do, like, a crazy performance arts piece where I just go and shit on top of as many cop cars as I can. And then, see, let's just do it, like, in the middle of the night, like, very, like, Banksy. Just go to a police car and just shit on top of it. And then.
Bob the Drag Queen
What's the name of it? What's the name of this piece?
Monet X Change
Shitty Car.
Bob the Drag Queen
Shitty Car. And do you think that is there? Do you film it or does the piece just exist in the world? You have to go see one of the cars.
Monet X Change
You have to go see one of the cars, and I do it, and then we photograph it and then we put it on the Internet. Kind of like. You're like, bank, like, how do people just find out about Banksy stuff? Like, how do people know if something is a real Banksy?
Bob the Drag Queen
Banksy authenticated his stuff with his Instagram. So the way. The way that Banksy was working and I. And I saw a document, I think it was Exit through the Gift Shop maybe, or maybe another one. I think there's maybe two or three Banksy documentaries. And Bank. So Banksy is. And again, y', all, I am not an art curator or scientist. We should probably. We honestly probably should have Ms. Cracker here, because Ms. Cracker actually is like a. Like a. She was an art curator. She was an arts curator for the African. For the African Arts Museum when I met her, actually.
Monet X Change
She's.
Bob the Drag Queen
Was she a grant writer? She was either a grant writer. Schoenberger. No, for the arts. For the African Arts Museum.
Monet X Change
I think that is a Schoenberg on 135th.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, I don't know. I thought it was called the African Arts Museum. I don't know. But anyway, I think it was called the African Arts Museum. That's not the point. So Banksy was. This. Is this artist whose work is somewhere between visual art and performance art. He makes these, like, real these. He makes sculptures. He makes stencils. He. He does immersive environments, and then he posts them on his Instagram. And everyone just kept running. He doesn't sell his art. He. He only sold one piece ever. And the. I believe. And the piece that he sold was this painting. And because everyone wanted to buy a Banksy, and then once they bought it, it just. It just shredded the whole painting. Like, the paint. The frame had a shredder. Divine had a shredder attached to it, but they couldn't see it. So this thing sold for, like, a. Can you find out how much that sold for, baby? So this painting sold for, like, a lot of money. And then the moment it was sold at auction, someone hit a button, and then it activated the picture. And then the picture. How much? Oh, just let me know.
Monet X Change
When you said, I'm gonna guess 10 million. What are you guessing?
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm gonna say it sold for 2 million. 25.
Monet X Change
$25 million.
Bob the Drag Queen
So this painting's over 20. This Banksy's over. Cause Banksy had never. He had never sold. They are before. So the Banksy sold for $25 million. Once it sold, it shredded through the thing, but apparently the shredder was supposed to shred it all the way, but it only shredded halfway. Like, it.
Sponsor/Ad Voice
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Bob the Drag Queen
It. It just kind of, like, up somehow. It did. It didn't fully work, so it actually probably is now worth even more because of the stuff around it. So now it's just a picture frame. Half of the art is in the picture. Half of the art is shredded at the bottom of the picture. But that. Honestly, that is a stunt.
Monet X Change
Does anyone know who Banksy looks like?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, Banksy's been exposed at this point, but it's still kind of. It's kind of like Sia, I think Banky picture.
Sponsor/Ad Voice
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Monet X Change
I want to. I want to.
Bob the Drag Queen
What?
Sponsor/Ad Voice
Look.
Monet X Change
See what Banksy looks like.
Bob the Drag Queen
Did you ever watch the documentary?
Monet X Change
He has a documentary where.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, there's one called Exit through the Gift Shop. And it was. I'm. I think that's the one I saw. And what. What Banksy does is he basically documents how he would. He would travel. He would, like, post about this art, and then everyone would, like, run and try to get it, or run and try to get pictures of it. But he would post them on, like, building. So you can't. You can't take the art because it's on a building.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
There actually was a Banksy across the street from my old apartment in.
Monet X Change
Remember that.
Bob the Drag Queen
If you. If you want to. I was. I used to live at 106 in Amsterdam, and across the street there is a Banksy. It is by. It is on the wall. It is behind plexiglass. And it's. I think it's right above a fire escape. No, a fire hydrant. I think it's like someone's head on the fire. No, no, it's a little kid with a balloon. Yeah, it was a kid with a balloon. And you could. It was literally just. It was. I mean, literally, it was across street from my home. If you go to. It's on the. It's. It's on Amsterdam between 106 and 107 on the west side. Somewhere on that wall there is a bank.
Monet X Change
I remember that.
Bob the Drag Queen
And it's behind a piece of Plexiglas. So they're, like, preserving it so that no one else can, like, paint over it or. Or it up in some way. And that started happening all around New York City. People started trying to preserve their Banksies. If your building got a Banksy, it was this whole thing. Then Banksy did, like, Mobile art. But he has a lot of money. I don't know how he's doing it. Like, one of his things, he made this, like, crazy, like, sculpture inside of a. In the back of a, like, truck. It was wild. I don't even know how he does this stuff.
Monet X Change
Well, I mean, if he stole One thing for 20, he probably has a normal job or, like, a good job. Maybe it comes from money. But if you stole One thing with $25 million, girl, he probably. He's fine for a while, but I
Bob the Drag Queen
don't think that he. They. I don't think that he got the money for it. Like, I think.
Monet X Change
I think they did.
Bob the Drag Queen
Did he get the money?
Monet X Change
I mean, I don't even know. I'm literally just saying anything.
Jacob
I believe he has a gallery representative.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, he has, like, a gallery represent. I mean, maybe. Maybe Banksy was just doing this big thing where he act like he wouldn't sell any art for the first. After everyone is dying for it, then he'll start selling. Maybe. I don't fucking know. Honestly, I think that Banksy is. Is a really brilliant pop artist. Would you consider that Pop art, Jacob?
Monet X Change
Yeah, it's popular of the time.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, Jacob's making a face. Jacob's giving. Jacob's art. Art school kid said, I don't know.
Monet X Change
I'm. I'm an art school kid as well, and I studied fine art for a semester.
Bob the Drag Queen
We're talking about visual art. Someone who has a degree in visual art.
Monet X Change
Okay. Paint that could. That's visual and fine, honey.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my God.
Jacob
Yeah. I would say Banksy is a pop artist. There are two different types. There's a pop art movement, which is. Generally has a number of artists associated with it, and Banksy is definitely not part of that. But, like, on the whole. Is, like pop art as a concept.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, on the whole. Talk about the whole.
Monet X Change
Do you. Did you like. Did you like taking art classes in school in, like, high school and middle school and shit?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I loved. I loved sculpture. I made this really fierce flower when I was in seventh grade. It was so good. And then you glaze it and then. Oh, my God.
Monet X Change
Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes. And if you. And if your art was really good, what they would do is they would. Oh, my God. I will never forget this. This was like. I remember feeling like, bitch, I made it. I remember being like, I'm gonna be an. I remember thinking to myself, I think I'm gonna be a sculptor. I think I'm gonna be a sculpture. You. You make. Make this. This sculpture, and if it's really good. They display it at the grocery store. So there's a grocery store called the Food Depot, but it was a really, like, down. Bad grocery store. Like, they used to call it Roach Depot. Like, that's how crummy the store was. It is not. It was not a classy place. So we. But if you. If you did a really good job, that would display your art at the Roach Depot. And my art, I remember taking my mom to look in the. And be like, there it is. There's my sculpture.
Monet X Change
Not Bobby being up in. Not the Roach Depot gallery.
Bob the Drag Queen
The Roach Gallery right next to the fucking donuts. Right next to the deli section. Yeah. Where's your art, honey?
Monet X Change
I did not have a mom that would put my art on the fridge. Did your mom do that? When you get artwork from school? Would she put. When you did them little turkey things? When that came home.
Bob the Drag Queen
When that art came home from the gallery, it went directly to my closet. My mom was like, we are not putting this. It was. It was. She's like, we're not putting this on. I'm gonna tell you where. This is not going on the fridge. No, it was. It was like a sculpture thing. And when I was young, I think my mom put maybe one or two of my things on the fridge, but it was not. My mom used the fridge as a vision board, actually.
Monet X Change
A vision board?
Jacob
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
The fridge was a vision board.
Monet X Change
We love that. That's smart. So, I mean, use your fridge every day. Yeah, I didn't do that much. I liked art classes in middle school, but I really love it in art class. We had a. We had a. We did the thing when you. Is it sculptor sculpting? When you put stuff in, you glaze it and put it in, like, the killing, and you burn it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, that's. That's a sculpture. Yeah, Pottery. We did potter.
Monet X Change
Pottery.
Bob the Drag Queen
Pottery can be. Oh, pottery can be sculptures, too, as well.
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Monet X Change
Yeah. And I remember doing that, and I made, like.
Bob the Drag Queen
You mean like. Like, Like Unchained Melody from ghosts?
Monet X Change
Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
Did you see. Did your teacher come from behind you?
Monet X Change
And I mean, I wish. No, no, she was a. She was a. In art school, in high school. She was a bitchy lady.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can you sing? I think Unchained Melody is tied to pottery for the Forever.
Monet X Change
What's Unchained? Oh, is that this one that plays while Patrick Swayze. My love. There she goes.
Bob the Drag Queen
My darling, I hope Hunger for.
Monet X Change
What was that? What is that? Arpeggio?
Bob the Drag Queen
My darling, my darling I hunger for your touch do you know.
Monet X Change
Do you Know solfege.
Bob the Drag Queen
Solfege nar.
Monet X Change
Huh? Yeah. You probably do. Do fasolatito.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, yeah. You mean the scales.
Monet X Change
Yeah. Silfe.
Bob the Drag Queen
Got a little boogie, boogie.
Monet X Change
Boogie wonderland.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Yeah. Doremi fa so latito.
Monet X Change
Okay. Okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do a deer. A female. Dear Ray, why do you say deer like that?
Monet X Change
A dia.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, that's how. That's how Dame Julie Andrew says it in the Sound of Music.
Monet X Change
I've never seen the Sound of Music.
Bob the Drag Queen
Music, I mean. Well, that's how she says it. Do a deer. A female deer. She's British, so that's what she talks.
Monet X Change
Yeah. Did you like music? Art, I guess. Yeah. Did you like music classes in college? I mean, high school?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. My teacher came. Ms. Kim.
Monet X Change
Ms. Kim. Kim Chu was your teacher?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, her name was Kim, but I don't remember her last name. But for some reason, I knew her first name. I remember she was a beautiful. I remember being mesmerized by her voice. Voice. Mesmerized by her voice. And she. She was an adult with braces. I remember that as well. She was probably. I don't actually. You know, when you're in high school, you actually can't tell how old people are. Like, you think these people were, like, they were fully 33.
Monet X Change
You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, for sure. Or like, young girls, 25. But in your mind as a kid, you're like, oh, this person is a teacher. They must be old.
Bob the Drag Queen
But I do remember her showing up with braces one day, being like, you got braces, you're too old for? I remember thinking myself, you're too old for braces.
Monet X Change
Not shaming the teacher for fixing her grill.
Bob the Drag Queen
And she taught me that the violin is supposed to mimic the voice. That's what she said. She said the point of the violin is, like, in music, to mimic the voice. That's kind of like how violin is written into music. That's what she said. I trust her because she was my teacher, and she had a degree in music.
Monet X Change
I mean, not the violin specifically.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't.
Jacob
I don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's what she said. I'm not trying to defend this lady's point. This is a lesson I got in 2002. Can I. Can I move on to my next point, please? So. So.
Monet X Change
And.
Bob the Drag Queen
And she was the first person to ever. So my drama teacher was like, you need to take music classes. Ms. Baker was like, you. Ms. Baker really believed in me. I was like her star student. She's like, but if you're gonna. By the time you go to College, you're gonna need to learn how to sing. So you need to take music classes. They used to dog. They used to dog me in. In musical rehearsal before I took this class. Like, like the way they used to treat me so bad. Professor Odom. Stephen Odom. If you're listening, Dr. Stephen Odom of Music Full Government. I was playing Franklin Delano Roosevelt nanny, and there's a small, little, Little Franklin
Monet X Change
Delano Roosevelt and Annie.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, he's a character in Annie. Yes, he is. And I. And I was.
Monet X Change
Who is that?
Bob the Drag Queen
He's the president. Monet.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I'm saying. But like, what, like, what is it? In the musical Annie, there's a role for the president of a boy. What does Annie have to do with the president?
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, there's this issue, and it goes all the way up to the president. The president is in the play. When I don't. The president is in the play. And I was.
Monet X Change
It's like getting, like, what did he, like, pass or orphanage reform?
Bob the Drag Queen
He basically, like, stopped Rooster and Lily St. Regis from being shady with Ms. Hanigan. Like, it was Daddy Warbucks because Daddy Warbucks is friends with the president.
Monet X Change
God. Cuz he's so rich. Got it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. And there's. And, and there. And there. Also. America's in the recession during Annie because there's Hoovervilles and Daddy Warbucks is like, trying to help get out of this. And he goes to the. The president did, like, fix it or somehow, I can't. I can't really remember. But Dr. Stephen Odom was like, I will never forget. I was in this rehearsal in front of all these people, and he was trying to get me to sing. And at one point he just looks at me, he goes, just speak your part. And then, and then from that point on, whenever I be in a musical with him, we would get these CDs with the mute with all the music rehearsal, rehearsal music on it. And he would write light on the disc. Speak your part. Every time I did a music with Dr. Steven Odom, I got a note that said, just speak your part. And then I will never forget the last thing I said about Dr. Stephen Odom.
Monet X Change
Why even cast you?
Bob the Drag Queen
Because I'm a good actor, Monet. And I don't know. So. And so. So the. The biggest thing was we did Les Mis. I played. I played the character Clock Zoo. Clock Zoo is one of the. The bad guys. No Clock is Due is one of the revolutionaries. And he has a song where he has a small solo in the song Sleep With Me. It goes, Sleep with me Two days gone by could it be we fear to die Will the world remember you when you're going what?
Jacob
I think the song is called Drink With Me.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, it is called Drink With Me.
Monet X Change
Drink with Me.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, it's called Drink With Me. What's that called? Sleep With Me.
Monet X Change
Sleep With Me. I was like, well, I've never seen Les Mis. I was like, maybe there's some, like. Some, like, rapey story in that one, too.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, there is, actually. There is, but. Oh, God, it's called. Because there is.
Jacob
Anyway.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's called Drink With Me. Sorry. Thank you, Jacob. Fuck my ass. Fuck this tight hole. No, it was called Drink With Me, and I would never forget being like him. Like, I got cast in the role by the director, but he didn't like that I was casting this role and he wanted someone else to play the role. So then he was like, can you even sing it? And I was like, yeah, let me try. And then he was like, okay, 1, 2, 3. And he starts playing the song, and I couldn't keep up. I feel like he was doing it faster than it was supposed to be. And he was like, you can't sing it. You literally can't sing it. So we're gonna give the role to this guy instead. And he just took. Took. He just took the role from me and cast me as one of Tenardier's henchmen.
Monet X Change
Damn. Well, you know, maybe he was trying to save you from some embarrassment, but also just trying to sing a song for the first time someone plays it like you haven't had much. Any rehearsals and stuff.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's the entire cast, by the way.
Monet X Change
Oh, that is shade. That's shady.
Bob the Drag Queen
40 of us in front of the entire cast. And I was so embarrassed. Honestly, it felt racist. It really felt racist.
Monet X Change
Did it?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes, it really did feel racist. That's. That's my. I'm not saying it was, but I'm just saying how it felt to me at the time. Being one of few black kids in this production of Les Miz and having him take my part. Like, ask me, can you even sing it? Clunking out the pieces before even counting me in and then be like, you can't sing it. And then he snatched the role and gave it to a white kid in Clayton county, of all places.
Monet X Change
What about in high school? One of. The first. One of the first music. Music besides when it took us to. To see Rock in 10th grade was that my high school perform was Bat Boy. Have you seen the musical Bat Boy?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. I know. Bat Boy. Yeah.
Monet X Change
And I just remember the choreo. Love me, Bat Boy. Kiss me, Bat Boy. Waiting to die away Bat Boy. Bat Boy. It was great.
Bob the Drag Queen
I would love to see you in a musical. I would love, love, love to see you in a musical. I wish. I mean, honestly, if you had not been doing Drama Drop Drop Kick, Death Drop in the middle of the Ponder Replay, I would have come to see it.
Monet X Change
Oh, my God. Well, in Death Drop, when I did it, I don't know how, because it's changed a lot since I did it. There was one big cast number, and then Courtney and I had a duet at the end. But, yeah, I would listen to a musical. I think it'll be great. I'd have a lot, you know, I was supposed to do. Then when they did, they brought Head Over Heels to la, to the Pasadena Playhouse, and I was supposed to do it.
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Monet X Change
But I was filming November. I was. I was going to play the oracle, Peppermint's character.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my God.
Monet X Change
There we go. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Ezra auditioned for that role too, actually. But when I look back at it, Ezra is not right for that role. Ezra actually would have made more sense as the shepherd than as Pio.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
But I. I went to go see it. I went to go see it with me and Ezra went to go see it with Alaska and Aaliyah delaria. And Alaska was stunning. Stunning.
Monet X Change
I know, alas, is great. I, you know, I obviously, I know Alaska for a long time, but I've worked with her a lot in, like, the past couple months. Am I like, really, Stan? Alaska is so great, professional, on time. She's great. Talented.
Bob the Drag Queen
Should I post my. So Summer McCusker, who is one of my oldest friends, sent me a video of me in Midsummer Night Dream Dream. When I was like 19 years old in college.
Monet X Change
What character were you?
Bob the Drag Queen
I was bottom.
Monet X Change
You're. You were bottom.
Bob the Drag Queen
His name is Nick Bottom and he's one of the mechanicals. So they're it. So you know, Midsummer Night is the world's most produced play. It's like no plays ever been produced more time than Midsummer. So in the woods, there's this group of actors who all live there. They're. They're. They're. I mean, there's our. The show is a comedy, but they are the extreme comedy related relief of a show that's already a comedy. Like a romantic comedy. They're the extreme comedy. And Bottom gets turned into a donkey, but he doesn't know he's a donkey. And then he has this great death scene. At the end, part of me, I. I honestly. I'm gonna check with Summer, and if we can get it all copacetic, I will post the entire production of Me at Columbus State university. I was 19 years old. I had long dreadlocks. I was skinny as this mic stand performing. It was the first play to ever happen at the Riverside Theater Center. It was the first show that we opened the theater.
Monet X Change
Interesting. I mean, I would love to see. I would love. I would love to see you. I mean, I didn't get to see
Bob the Drag Queen
you in Angels in America.
Monet X Change
Angels in America.
Bob the Drag Queen
Shangels in America.
Monet X Change
Shangels.
Bob the Drag Queen
I always want to say Shangela. Like, shangelos in America. I don't know. Just in my head, I was trying to make it work. I wish you'd come see me. I was holding a resentment for you for a while because you didn't come see me. But I'd learned to let it go, Bob.
Monet X Change
You know, I couldn't come to see. I was like. It was like prime Drag Race time. I just got on Drag Race, and I was doing all this stuff. You knew. I didn't know how to.
Bob the Drag Queen
I said how to organize my skit. I'm just saying Naomi came.
Monet X Change
I know how to organize my. Cause Naomi was on your season, y'.
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Monet X Change
I didn't know how to, like, say no to gigs and do stuff. Like, I was like. I was still new. I didn't know my power.
Bob the Drag Queen
I have said I've let it go. But at the time, because at one point, you were like, bob, I was preparing for All Stars, and I was like, naomi came while preparing for All Stars.
Monet X Change
Yeah, because Naomi was on the show already. Naomi had, like, a way different life than me.
Bob the Drag Queen
Listen, I have let it go. I'm not holding it against you.
Monet X Change
You don't have just brought it up.
Bob the Drag Queen
I know, because I'm still. I am probably still. I'm still slightly processing my feelings, but I realized that it wasn't intentional. I know that you would have seen me if you could,
Jacob
but you were.
Bob the Drag Queen
You came to the theater one day.
Monet X Change
Yeah, because they had us. Because Patty and I had a gig in sf, I think we were at Oasis, and I was like, oh, my God, I'm in SF today. I was doing, like, that whole Northeast circuit. And then. So of course. Of course we came. But my show was that night as well. Like, I had to, like, go to. Had to be at the place by, like, the time your show started. Something like that.
Bob the Drag Queen
To be honest, I crushed it.
Monet X Change
I know you did. I believe you.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're Very talented, but I definitely. Maybe we can pay Peach's Christ one day, too, to see if we can get a performance of Bring it on, Queen.
Monet X Change
Oh, Bring It On, Queen. Yeah, that'd be great. Just for the Patreon.
Bob the Drag Queen
Or do it. Maybe it'd be a viewing party. Maybe we can convince her to a viewing party.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I mean, she can come too, and if she's into it and talk about it. I would love to. Yeah. Your little dragon. Mom, are you going to wear your little snazzy jacket?
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, maybe I will. Maybe I will. Actually, that'd be a cute little thing to wear for. For that event.
Monet X Change
I would love to do. The one rule I would love to do is the plant in Little Shop of Horrors.
Bob the Drag Queen
I want to see you as a plant. I am still advocating for you in the movie. You got to stop doing that, though. Every time you try to talk about the plant, you do that noise. And that's. That's not going to get you cast.
Monet X Change
When I.
Bob the Drag Queen
You always go,
Monet X Change
wow, Shade.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think that what's going to get you cast is your vocal. Your vocal prowess, not your. Not this goofy laugh you're doing. Also, the laugh you're doing is based off of Levi Stubbs. You can't just recreate what Levi Stubbs.
Monet X Change
I know, I know. I'm not gonna do exactly what Levi Stubbs did.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm trying to coach you because I want you to get this role. I saw Amber Riley do it at the Pasadena Playhouse.
Monet X Change
I. I ain't asked for your coaching.
Bob the Drag Queen
Speak your partner.
Monet X Change
I'm kidding.
Bob the Drag Queen
All right, we gotta wrap it up. I love you very much, Mo.
Monet X Change
Oh, so you and Jacob are wrapping it up now?
Bob the Drag Queen
I also, by the way, I want you to know that you're being subpoenaed to court.
Monet X Change
What?
Bob the Drag Queen
You're being subpoenaed, bitch.
Monet X Change
For what?
Bob the Drag Queen
You know what you did. You know what? Just go on. Once you get in the discord, you'll find out. How about that hula bitch?
Monet X Change
Bye. Bye,
Bob the Drag Queen
Sam.
In this lively and hilarious episode of Sibling Rivalry, drag superstars Monét X Change and Bob the Drag Queen dive into all things art—from their favorite pieces at home, memories of making art in school, and wild stories about performance artists, to musings on Banksy and even a detour into performance art they'd like to try. The episode is quintessentially Sibling Rivalry: playful bickering, storytime, and their signature infectious chemistry.
"I felt like I was transported back to like cave people time, but only... like neocave people. Everyone was huddled around this fire." — Monét (06:08)
"We called ourselves TSM Train Station Ministries...we would sing gospel songs and make, like, money. Honey!" — Monét (11:52)
"I know you had your keys on you. Your shit was jingling. You would, like, have them in your hand." — Bob (15:44)
"It was very uncomfortable...It was just this one white lady is, like, toe to toe with him. And he's like, you really want this?...And she was like, yeah, do it." — Bob (36:03)
"He only sold one piece ever...Once it sold [for $25M], it shredded through the thing...It didn't fully work, so now it's just a picture frame with half the art shredded." — Bob (44:54–45:20)
"An aesthetic procedure, which, by the way, I want to again say anal bleaching...maybe because I'm Black, bitch, it does not work." — Monét (04:48)
"He told me that it was, like, €2,000. I was like, is you Banksy? Is you fucking Basquiat, bitch?" — Monét (25:28)
"Now is the moment where I rape someone. And then he goes, if you are okay with me raping you, stay on this side of the room; if you don't want to get raped, move to that side." — Bob (35:15)
"[With comedy] you have to commit, 100% commit to the bit. I try to just take that into my musical...prowess." — Bob (13:43)
"Something about the music, they just seem...like they're already working in their field... always have their car keys in their hand or wear it around their neck on a lanyard." — Bob (14:32)
"Once it sold, it shredded through the thing...It didn't fully work, so now it's just a picture frame, half of the art is shredded." — Bob (45:20)
This episode of Sibling Rivalry delivers an unfiltered, laugh-filled journey through the world of art as framed by two of drag's most charismatic voices. It’s a must-listen for fans of art, drag, theater, or anyone who relishes the uncensored joy of two friends gabbing about everything from performance art shockers to whether or not Banksy is pop art...and why music majors always have their keys out.