The One About Atsuko Okatsuka

Summary

Podcast Summary: Sibling Rivalry – "The One About Atsuko Okatsuka"

Release Date: June 9, 2025
Hosts: Sibling Rivalry (Monét X Change & Bob the Drag Queen)
Guest: Atsuko Okatsuka
Duration: Approximately 69 minutes

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Introduction and Guest Welcome [03:44 – 04:44]

The episode kicks off with Monét X Change and Bob the Drag Queen welcoming their special guest, Atsuko Okatsuka, a multifaceted artist known for her HBO and upcoming Hulu specials. Bob enthusiastically introduces Atsuko, highlighting her global presence and creative prowess.

Bob the Drag Queen: "We welcome Atsuko to the podcast." [03:48]

Setting the Stage: Sibling Rivalry Dynamics [04:44 – 06:04]

The trio delves into the playful dynamics of their "sibling rivalry," emphasizing their deep friendship rather than actual familial ties. They humorously discuss the concept of a "restraining order" in jest, symbolizing their playful disputes.

Monét X Change: "Don't let Monet get you gathered. Monet was trying to get people canceled." [05:16]

Personal Histories and Meeting Story [11:06 – 12:19]

Atsuko shares the story of how she met Monét, highlighting a serendipitous encounter on a Delta flight. The hosts laugh about the immediate connection and the blend of personalities that defined their friendship.

Atsuko Okatsuka: "I was flying into Delta, and I saw someone in this beautiful, colorful kaleidoscope duster coat. We connected instantly." [11:27]

Fashion and Style Banter [08:12 – 10:20]

A playful discussion ensues about hairstyles and wigs, with Bob and Monét teasing Atsuko about her wig choices. They brainstorm the idea of a "sibling wiggery" segment, showcasing their infectious chemistry and creative flair.

Bob the Drag Queen: "Would you try on some wigs for us one day?" [09:35]
Atsuko Okatsuka: "That would be a great video for the channel." [09:39]

Career and Personal Endeavors [14:29 – 16:19]

The conversation shifts to their respective careers, with Bob discussing his HBO special and Atsuko revealing her new Hulu special, "Father," set to debut on June 13th. They encourage listeners to support each other's projects, reinforcing their supportive friendship.

Atsuko Okatsuka: "Your new special 'Father' debuts on June 13th on Hulu. Big congratulations, girl." [66:31]

Navigating Friendships and Social Interactions [24:13 – 27:18]

Monét and Bob discuss the challenges of making friends as adults, with Atsuko chiming in on her experiences. They explore the dynamics of friendship formation without the pressure of actively seeking new connections, emphasizing organic growth.

Monét X Change: "I'm a people pleaser. I do not like conflict." [27:20]
Bob the Drag Queen: "I'd rather be rejected than have to reject someone." [27:18]

Emojis Game: Deciphering Messages [55:26 – 68:15]

A highlight of the episode is the engaging "Deciphering Emojis" game, where Atsuko and Bob attempt to interpret various emojis sent by the hosts. This segment showcases their humor, quick thinking, and deep understanding of each other's communication styles.

Bob the Drag Queen: "You're not bad at deciphering emojis. You're literally perfect." [65:07]
Atsuko Okatsuka: "I think we're going to see flesh and skin under there." [34:37]

Personal Anecdotes and Experiences [41:22 – 53:43]

The trio shares personal stories, ranging from modeling experiences to humorous encounters at theme parks. Atsuko recounts her Vanity Fair photoshoot, while Monét and Bob discuss their adventures at Disneyland, highlighting their unique personalities and camaraderie.

Atsuko Okatsuka: "It was the first time they put me in wires and had me flying in the air. I felt like I was in Crouching Tiger." [51:20]
Monét X Change: "I kept asking to get off the rides. It was the scariest ride." [48:30]

Addressing Misconceptions and Clarifying Facts [46:44 – 47:30]

In a humorous exchange, Bob corrects Monét on the misconceptions about nurse sharks, emphasizing their benign nature. This segment underscores their ability to blend comedy with informative content seamlessly.

Atsuko Okatsuka: "There are no reports of nurse sharks biting humans. They eat other fish." [46:44]

Final Remarks and Upcoming Projects [66:31 – 68:15]

As the episode wraps up, the hosts highlight Atsuko's upcoming Hulu special and encourage listeners to check out her work. They reaffirm their bond, promising more entertaining content in future episodes.

Bob the Drag Queen: "Check out 'Father' on Hulu and follow Atsuko on social media for tour dates." [68:03]
Atsuko Okatsuka: "Thank you for having me on this dynamic duo. We love you all." [66:25]

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Notable Quotes

• Bob the Drag Queen: "Don't let Monet get you gathered. Monet was trying to get people canceled." [05:16]
• Atsuko Okatsuka: "I was flying into Delta, and I saw someone in this beautiful, colorful kaleidoscope duster coat. We connected instantly." [11:27]
• Monét X Change: "I'm a people pleaser. I do not like conflict." [27:20]
• Bob the Drag Queen: "I'd rather be rejected than have to reject someone." [27:18]
• Atsuko Okatsuka: "There are no reports of nurse sharks biting humans. They eat other fish." [46:44]

Conclusion

In "The One About Atsuko Okatsuka," Sibling Rivalry delivers an episode rich with humor, heartfelt moments, and engaging conversations. The chemistry between Monét, Bob, and Atsuko shines through as they navigate topics ranging from personal experiences to playful games. Listeners are treated to an authentic glimpse into their lives, fostering a deeper connection with the hosts and their guest. Whether it's decoding emojis or sharing career milestones, this episode encapsulates the essence of what makes Sibling Rivalry a beloved podcast.

Transcript

[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monét X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Atsuko Okatsuka]

And I'm Mon Exchange.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this is simply Rival.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

On this week's episode, we decipher emojis.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We welcome Atsuko to the podcast.

[Ryan]

And we find out what made Monet say this.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

In my brain, that made sense. And we find out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't let Monet get you gathered. Monet was trying to get people canceled. And we found out what made Atsuko say this.

[Ryan]

Whoever is the one leaving is the bitch. Right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hello, everyone. We are gonna jump right in with our absolutely beautiful special guest. She is hilarious. You have seen her all over the world. She has an HBO special. And now she has a special come out on Hulu on June 13th called Father. Let's make some noise. Monae, you wanna help introduce our guest? She's gonna sit there, lady, go to work.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

She's very fabulous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My friend. And my friend.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Optico is absolutely my friend.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I knew Oscar way before you did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Asuka will clear this up. Give it up for Asuka.

[Ryan]

Oh, my God. Hello. Hi, beautifuls. This dynamic is too fun to watch, but sometimes I get scared. I'm like, oh, they mean it. They mean it. And I really kind of sometimes, I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We do.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

We do.

[Ryan]

I guess I could see that because I had heard you live not too far from each other. There is a way. Like you're in the same town right now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it is three minutes for me.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah. I left three minutes on the roof from Bob.

[Ryan]

Right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The restraining order is the restraining order that Monet put.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I enacted the restraining order for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because she's a little bitch. And she had to get the law involved.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Atsuko's grandmother going to watch this. Bob, be careful. What's the.

[Ryan]

What's a risk? What's the restraining order where it's just three minutes away? Like, this is good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it's the sr. It's the SR Law. It's a new one. Sibling rivalry. The SR Restraining order. But it's something that we had to work out with our lawyers, and it should be rolling out nationwide soon. Around the time Trump rolls out his gold card. $5 million gold card. This should roll out around the same time.

[Ryan]

Oh, my God. Where you love the person like, enough. Where it's like, okay, three minutes away is good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Exactly. You told me back then that you have a. That you have a Bob in your life. That you are Monet and you have a Bob in your life.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Oh, my God. Who's your Bob?

[Ryan]

My grandma. So Bob embodies a Taiwanese 90 year old grandma?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Honestly, that scans. That scans. That scans. That sounds like Bob the Dragon. 100%.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm an icon is what you're saying. I'm an icon.

[Ryan]

People love her. People love her. I'm good. I'm good. I feel. It's so wild. I mean, I've seen. I've seen. I feel like more of Andy than the two of you.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I know you've been hanging out with Andy. It's very upsetting to me that you hang out with Andy way more than me. Like, I'm like, I'm like jealous. Y' all want to help me together.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not an upgrade.

[Ryan]

I am not superficial. I am about, you know, I'm just about human connections. Whoever it is. I don't care about followings or followers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I tell the fans something that you just told us? Asuka said that she just woke up and you look great for someone who just woke up. This is like. Like, do you. I. I know, I know you probably get this question line.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I don't want.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't want to harp on this because you're probably. You probably can't talk about the haircut more than you've already spoken about it. But like, do you have to, like, did you have to like, cause or do you. Wait, are you. Are you. Are you ready? Are you shake up and like, ready to go?

[Ryan]

No, no, no. This is. Yeah, this is product. You know, there's heat protection, some sort of spray I got at Nashville to, you know. Yeah. There's moonshine. Yeah, right. I know it's hard for me. Nashville is One of those places where every time I go there is. I don't feel. I left. I leave not feeling good, you know? Do you feel that way?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is valid.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I've never played Nashville. I've only in drag or in my stand career. I've only ever. I did Tennessee one time. Bob and I did Memphis, Tennessee, on our tour in 22. Remember, Bob?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do remember. My cousin came.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah, we did Memphis, Tennessee. And that's the only time. That's the only. I've never done anything else in drag. I mean, which. Thank God, because drag is fucking banned there anyway, so.

[Ryan]

Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So exactly where. And that feeling is there. You know what I mean? Even just me trying to look for a. I needed a hair trim in Nashville, and so I was like, of course here, out of all places, I need a hair salon that understands. But, you know, they all do long blonde hair. They're all doing the, you know, the country music. Long blonde hair.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you came out with the long. If you came out with the Kim Zolciak, people would be like, what is happening?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Oh, my God. Oh, Atsuko, you need to come over to my house one day. We're just going to just plant some wigs. I want to put Atsuko in a middle.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Her name is Atsuko.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Atsuko.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, you're saying Atsuko. Her name is Atsuko.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I said Atsuko. That's my accent, bitch. That's how I pronounce.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You were saying Atsuko. Her name is Atsuko.

[Ryan]

Here we appreciate all cultures, all accents.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Thank you very much.

[Ryan]

Intonations.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Thank you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't let me butcher your name.

[Ryan]

I just come in with an announcer voice once in a while. That's how we'll settle this. Here we are all inclusive. Buffet. What?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

But, like. But could. Could you imagine Atsuko wearing this wig right here? Ms. Orange right here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you try on some wigs for us one day?

[Ryan]

I would love that.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

That would be a great video. That would be a great video for the channel.

[Ryan]

I just had to clean out my closet of. I had, like, really cheap ones. You know, when I was, like, a dreamer and I was like, oh, maybe, but.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, that's gonna. We gotta be. Me and Monat. We got some nigga wigs, so we can't. We can't put you.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I got you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We can't put you in our, like, dreadlocks in our brain.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

We.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We have to really curate the wigs, Oscar.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah, definitely. Definitely. No dreads or cornrows or braids. But, I mean, it's orange, so it's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

That's different.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You better have her like a Dale with bantu knots and the Jamaican flag with a big.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

No, she'll do this one. I think I won't be fine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet, don't. Do not put that wig on. Don't let Monet get you gathered. Monet be trying to get people canceled. Don't I. I'll make sure I'm there for the wig trying on because would do some goofy shit.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Okay, so we settle. We're gonna do sibling. We're gonna do sibling wiggery. Atka's gonna come over, and we're gonna put a bunch of different wigs on her we love.

[Ryan]

Yes. And it's. It'll be in private, but. Yes. For sure that, you know, when it gets dicey. When it gets dicey, I'm like, you know what? I'll just keep this haircut. That's chill.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why did I think you lived in New York? I would have bet my entire. Like, I would've bet the whole fortune. I'd have been like. If it. If it came down to Double J. And they were like, the category is Otsuko. And I'd be like, you know, I think I'm gonna be pretty good on this.

[Ryan]

And then, damn, that's very low stakes if that's the category. And then you're on Double Jeopardy. Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And if the answer was like, osco lives here. I'd be like, what is New York City? And I would be so confident having bet everything. I would have gagged when they said. When they said la.

[Ryan]

When they said three minutes away, as well, when they said, actually, Monet and Atsuko live together.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Well, you know how we met, Bob? I was literally. I was flying to this, whatever it was, and then I'm coming into Delta, and I see someone in this beautiful, like, colorful kaleidoscope, this, like, extravagant big duster coat. I was like, who is this person? I look up, and I was like. And we had never met, and I probably look like a crazy person. I read. I was like. I was like, oh, my God, Oscar. I'm a huge fan of her. She was like, Monet.

[Ryan]

I was like, oh, my God, that's who I am.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

And then we kindred spirits connected, and we exchanged numbers, and then it's been hers since then, honey.

[Ryan]

Yes. And that was lax. And I love that Delta line. I love that Delta priority at LAX.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yes, 100%, but yes.

[Ryan]

Well, it's because Bob And I met in New York. And so, you know, people could guess LA, NY all day. But when there's fashion going on, people guess New York.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is true 100%. Especially you have a New York vibe. You have the vibe of a New Yorker, you know?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ryan]

I feel like that's why. Yeah, I would guess y' all are New York, too. LA's, you know, workout clothes, workout clothes. Workout clothes all day in the streets.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do think that you are one of those people who could be like a. You could pull an Adele, right? So, like, Adele says that when she doesn't want to be noticed, she will literally just wear bright colors and a hat, and no one will know who she is. She's like, I just walk the streets. I just. Because she always. She only. She only wears black on stage. She only wears black. So if she just wears, like, a bright color.

[Ryan]

You mean the bandeau knots?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The bantu knot, besides the bantu knots.

[Ryan]

When you say she wears black on stage. When you say, oh, you. That was her in the. That was her in the streets. She only wears black in the streets. On stage.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, she only wears black culture in the streets. She only wears black color.

[Ryan]

Oh, my God. That's the streets. That's the streets.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love this picture. If you dress all black and put on a blonde wig, I really think that you could. I genuinely think that you could go on stage at your own show and people would be like, oh, this is the opener. Cause you're so synonymous with your bowl cut and with your bright, festive fashion.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Which, by the way, I love what you wore in your special. Those pants. Was it a skirt or were they pants? I couldn't tell, but they were fierce.

[Ryan]

It was a skirt. We put some wiring in it to look kind of like a flower petal.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah. Gorge. Very beautiful.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You put it in there yourself or someone. Or someone else did.

[Ryan]

Do you make someone else hit?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you do any sewing?

[Ryan]

No, I do not have. I do not have really skills at all. Besides. Yeah, I can dance a little bit. I just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A little bit.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

You kill that opening. Because here's the thing. Akbar is one of those people. You could tell she's like the singer version. Someone who, like. Oh, yeah, I don't really sing. Then it comes to karaoke, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I can't sing.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I feel like that. Cause you say you're not a dancer. You were busting it out at the beginning of the special. You are a dancer. You dance a lot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When you do comedy, comedians, you tell me if you Think you're a better dancer than them?

[Ryan]

Okay, well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, here we go. Do you think you'd be a better dancer than Chelsea Handler?

[Ryan]

A hundred percent. We already know this. We've done this. We've tried dancing together.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think you'd be a better dancer than Mattel Lane?

[Ryan]

Yes.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yes. Okay, I see that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think you'd be a better dancer than Nicole Byer?

[Ryan]

I. Well, with pole, I don't know. We've. Yeah. I mean, she has those, that upper body strength now, so she does.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And, and, and those legs. Yeah. And, and she has very strong legs.

[Ryan]

Oh, yes.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Last one, she posted a video the other day. She was in these, like, they look like 8 inch platform stilettos. I was like, she better work. I can't, I can't. My. At 35, the humble age of 35, my body cannot wear those kinds of shoes anymore.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Here's my last one.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Do you think you'd be a better.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Dancer than Bianca Del Rio?

[Ryan]

Yes, yes, yes. But, you know, we're comedians. We're not known for dancing, so I'm like, pretty good for dancing. I'm just afraid to be like, yes, I dance. And then there I am having to audition for, you know, Step up seven, you know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like you'd be a beautiful addition to Step up seven as part.

[Ryan]

Of like an Asian dance crew that's like the antagonist or something. You know what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm in Maine right now. Let's go for Step it up seven.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Well, would you, would you ever do like Dance with. Dance with the Star situation?

[Ryan]

Oh, I guess so. I don't really watch that show. Are you into that?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I'm not, but apparently it's still huge. I was talking to somebody the other day. I was like, oh, yeah, season, whatever it is, it's as big as it's ever been before. I'm like, really? I think I don't hear about it anymore. But it's.

[Ryan]

So, yeah, I think I'm not big into like the foxtrot, you know what I mean? And things like that. Right. Like, and, you know, the ballroom. Yeah. But, yeah, I don't think so. That's so many weeks of your life. I mean, look at me trying to win already. That's so many weeks of your life that you're, you're missing for what, three months if you win.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you competitive? Are you competitive?

[Ryan]

Not at all. I went to game night at Monet's and I was like, pretending. I was pretending that I was competitive, but I was like, I Could lose right now. And I would be happy. I would be happy to just watch these people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There was one game at Monet's where this singer. This one of Monet's opera singer friends was. She was trying to lose the game, and she ended up winning the game. Your opera singer friend, the one who was like. She was like, I think I'm a little high. And then she kept. She felt bad that she was the witch.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Oh, yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she. Okay, I wasn't gonna spill her name, God damn it. And she felt bad that she was the witch and she was killing people. But then she kept. But then she was like, guys, I'm the witch. I feel bad. Please don't attack her. And everyone was like, no, it's the one you told us not to attack. Yeah. And then this bitch won the fucking game. So I don't know if she was not competitive. I don't know if that was a brilliant strategy, but it was great.

[Ryan]

I was gonna guess that game that it's that, you know, one where you have to deceive.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right.

[Ryan]

Being aloof in that kind of game is a way to win.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Could you deceive?

[Ryan]

No, I'm too honest. I will be like, I am. I did it, you know, with blood on my hands. I'd be like, yeah, that's what I.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Said about Bob is a liar and a deceiver. Bob is very good at these games because he's good at deception.

[Ryan]

Yes, I know. An icon. How about you, Monet? Are you a truth teller?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I'm a truth teller, so in games like that, I tend to. What was that reaction remix?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you making up history? We have entire clip. We'll talk about it after the break because that was. That was. You're trying to do it to Oscar. You know what? We'll be back. Okay, let's be honest. When was the last time you actually went to the doctor? The moment you needed to? I've definitely pulled the classic, I'm too busy, it'll heal on its own. I don't even know which doctor to go to. I could take care of that with a little bit of ointment. Listen, we've all made those excuses. Booking a doctor's appointment can just feel like another chore on the to do list. But that's why ZOCDOC exists. It makes finding and booking doctors so easy. There's no reason to delay anymore. Now, have you ever woken up with, like, a swollen, itchy eye or a weird rash that immediately went full WEB MD Detective? Yeah, we've all been there or you go in like you know, TikTok doctor mode. Yeah, I've been there girl. But rabbit holes don't replace real doct. Zocdoc helps you get the care you actually need. And let's be real, have you ever had a therapist whose only opening was Tuesdays at 11am or a dentist who won't stop talking while their hands are in your mouth? Or a doctor you had to wait six months to see? Yes baby, we've all settled at some point. But with ZocDoc you don't have to ZocDoc is a free app and website where you can search and compare high quality in network doctors and instantly book an appointment. We're talking about in network appointments with more than 100,000 doctors across every every specialty from mental health to dental health, primary care to urgent care, and more. You can filter for doctors who take your insurance, are located nearby, match your medical needs and are highly rated by verified patients. Real patient verified reviews. And once you find the right doctor you can see their real appointment times and pick one that works for you and book instantly. Appointments made through Zocdoc usually happen very fast, typically within 24 to 72 hours, sometimes even the same day. I've used Zocdoc and it really helps make the whole process simple. You just open the app, the free app. Find a great doctor who takes your insurance and boom, you are booked. Stop putting off those doctor's appointments and go to Zocdoc.com rivalry to find and instantly book a top rated doctor today. That's Zocdoc.com Rivalry Zocdoc.com Rivalry this episode of sibling Rivalry is brought to you by booking.com, booking. Yeah. From downtown hotels to cozy cabins in the woods, booking.com has the perfect summer stay for absolutely anyone. Even that one friend who travels with their own pillow and backup pillow. Whether you're booking for yourself, you're asleep, light rise early mom or your high maintenance group chat that somehow agreed on that one weekend, you can find exactly what you're looking for on booking.com When I book a place, I have two priorities. Lighting and silence. I need a window that lets in the golden hour glow for selfies, and walls thick enough to muffle my snooze button symphony. Bonus points that there's a mirror taller than me and a couch that looks like it was curated for a lifestyle blog. If I could find my perfect stay on booking.com, anyone can find exactly what you're booking for. Booking.com, booking. Yeah. Book today on the site or in the app. Booking. Com. Booking. Yeah. Osco, she's trying to spin you right now.

[Ryan]

Okay?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

See, Monet does the. She's trying to do the groundwork for the next time you come over to the next game night. She'll be like, oh, I'm gonna tell Osc that I am a really honest person. I never lie. I don't like to lie. Monet's doing the. The groundwork now. But I know you play the game. I see how you play. And she don't. Monet is. Monet loves to lie. It is her favorite pastime.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

That is not true.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I haven't. I don't think I've seen that. When there's. Okay, next time, if there's money involved, maybe we'll all really show our true selves. You have to up the game. You have to up the game.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone needs to put. Everyone needs to put 40 bucks in. Everyone needs to put 40 bucks in.

[Ryan]

Maybe a little more than that. Like, a little. A little where. A little more where we're all uncomfortable. A little uncomfortable about how much money we put in.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would say that start. For me, that starts at $75. And what $100 is like. I am now willing to hurt your feelings.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Oh, my God. That's actually. Y' all. That's a good idea. Okay, so the next game night, we have to pick a game where there is a pot. And also, like, if we play like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There was pot last time. That's why you're.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

If we play. If we play Secret Hitler, everyone playing puts in 100 bucks, right? If we play Secret Hitler, if the fascists win, they split the pot. Or whichever ones kind of like traders, whichever fascists are alive at the end, split the pot. And if the liberals win, they split the pot. That's such a good idea.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You are talking about running an illegal gambling den. I just want to go ahead and.

[Ryan]

Throw it out there, right? No, it's a test. Test. It's a test of who's gonna be their true selves. You know, are we that sweet? Are me and Monet that truth tellers? You know what I mean? Is Bob actually a sweetie? And, you know, it's all a front.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

You know, he is. It's a front.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You talk about having a hard time making friends, which in your special. Which I find interesting because, like, you seem so lovable. You seem really approachable. You see, you seem like someone that people want to approach.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Hence me running at you. Running at you. Face forward at an airport. Like, oh, my God.

[Ryan]

Probably too much of a people pleaser a little bit, though. It's more like, you know, I'm hard on myself, probably. Right, Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And not everyone understands. Not that we care about Nashville, but I was there on, like, Halloween night. My show was on November 1st, and we were at this hotel. You know, everyone there is dressed like Elle W. Everyone. Everyone is Elwoods. Hundreds of Elwoods.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They weren't in costume. That was Nashville.

[Ryan]

But they did try to have a Chihuahua in their purse. At least they did that. And they wore all pink, right? And then I was stuck in an elevator with a bunch of them. They're all like, bachelorette party vibes. And one of them just goes, nice costume. And I go, oh, I'm not wearing a costume. And then she goes, oh, so you just look like this on a Thursday. And I was. And the whole elevator. I'm like, why is this elevator so slow right now?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

What is your.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You were dressed as.

[Ryan]

That's. You see, you just spin. Every time I'm in Nashville, some weird comments like that. Just like. I don't know. I was like, they're just not used to the hair. My face. You know what I mean? What is it? Right? But of course, you're the one spiraling and just things like that. Things like that. Where. Yeah, you know, it'll make me crumble.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

But I think to your point, though, it's the. Specifically in your. Especially when we're talking about adult friends. Because I agree, as an adult, I mean, you do have certain gyms where I met you and Ryan, and we become friends. But I am at this age. I'm not trying to. I know people who, as adults, actively be like, okay, I'm gonna go out tonight and make some friends. I'm like, no, bitch. I have friends. If I meet someone, it happens organically, sure. But adults who set a mission to go make friends, I'm like, that is. I don't have that in me. I have all the friends I want, and the new ones that happen organ welcome them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't have ever set a goal to make friends, but I will set out to make friends with someone. Does that make any sense? Like, I, like. Like, for example, like this past year, or maybe a little more than a year actually, I met my time. My timeline's fucked up. But, like, I was like, I want to hang out with Jasmine W. And Amber Wallen. Like, I want to be their friend. Like, I want to be. I want to find out if we can be friends. I wasn't, like, in the world, like, who? Like, it's not like, it's not like hunting for deer. It's more like hunting for Moby Dick dick. Like, I don't want any. Well, I want that whale. Where the 150. Like, any deer. Any deer I see, I'm gonna shoot it. You know what I mean? I'm shoot my friends and hunt them.

[Ryan]

And that's scary to have a goal, though, because they could also. They could not reciprocate, you know?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Right. I've had that word.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, baby, I've shot. I've set out to make friends with people, and they were not into it at all. That's. But I would rather that than. I think I want to be your friend. We don't want to be friends. And then I find out, like, I'm not into you, but you still want to be friends. I would rather be rejected than have to reject someone.

[Ryan]

Oh, that's so hard. Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How about you, Asuka? Would you rather reject someone or be rejected?

[Ryan]

I would be rejected all day. I'm submissive. I am a people pleaser. I do not like conflict. I do not like telling someone, hey, it's. Cause, like, you do talk all the time. You know, I don't. What. That's. And then what? Just like. You know what I mean?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah. Everybody.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you rather be rejected or reject, Monet?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Well, but, Bob, you know me, it takes me years to stop doing things I don't want to do because I feel bad hurting someone's feelings.

[Ryan]

Oh, yeah.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I would do something to the bitter end. I'd be like. If I'm like. If I'm like, Monet, you have that. I'm like, no, girl, it's fine. I'm working through a girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I. I, yeah, I get heartbroken having to reject someone, But I also feel like at this. For something. At this point in my life, I've learned to take rejection very well. And my therapist shout out Dr. Shelley, my first therapist, she was like. She was like, oh, you move on really quickly. And I was. I was like. I was like, I know I'm dragging this out. She goes, no, you're not. She was like, you actually move on really quickly.

[Ryan]

Wow. Your first therapist.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You won't get out of my life, Monet. If you get out of my life, I will move on. You are reinfecting the world.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I was like, can I meet this Bob that moves on? Can I meet this person?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Meet my nuts, bitch. With your lips dragging the.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Meeting this Bob. Moves on hours ago. Bob and I are still hatching out fights that we had six years ago about things.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's your part in this, Oscar? I feel like you attract craziness. Something about you says, be crazy around me. Do crazy things near me. I was watching a clip of yours online, and someone. There was a breakup.

[Ryan]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right in the middle of your show, you really went into full therapy mode. Everyone was rooting against the girl. They were all rooting for the guy.

[Ryan]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you explain this scenario for people who may have not seen this viral clip of yours?

[Ryan]

Yeah, I'm always telling people to be their true selves, so it is my fault, but. And I do thrive in chaos. Ye. Yeah. I mean, they were in the front row of a show at the palace of Fine Arts in San Francisco, so I had to acknowledge it. They just get up. They're just like, fuck you, I'm leaving. You know, and it's like, front row. So there was no way I could just ignore it. She got up, and he's like, oh, he got up too. And so she starts taking off. And so I had to acknowledge it. I was like, what's going on? You know, and the girl is the one leaving my show. And the guy's like, I'm staying. I was like, well, this is progress. Usually it's the girl that's my. My fan, you know, and. And yeah, it actually. So it's a little darker than, like, I showed in the clip, but he was. He was, like, drunk, and he was kind of, like, excited, so he would shout out a lot during the show. And so she got. She got annoyed. She was trying to tell him, like, be quiet, you know, but, you know, I think from the clip, it looked like, you know, whoever is the one leaving is the right.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ryan]

But you have to investigate. You have to know what's really happening. And so he stayed, and then Ryan, you know, Ryan came in and, like, you know, grabbed. Grabbed him and was like, hey, you know, your lady's still out there. Let's go get her. Like, it was the Karamo talk show or something. Like, what now? We're facilitating, you know, people getting back together.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I love that that's giving me a question. So how do y' all handle this? Like, sometimes I do shows, and, like, there is someone, like. Like, I'm on stage doing my thing. Everyone's having a good time, and you hear someone who was, like, reacting, like, so much more than other people and then having, like, a little, like, talking. And then I try. I'm Like, I don't wanna give it attention, but I also want. Cause I don't wanna read them. And then. So how do y' all handle that when someone is just too engaged?

[Ryan]

Oh, right, Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I. If someone is doing too much, I don't acknowledge them because they want the acknowledgement. And then it seems like it is a permission slip to keep interacting. And now they think we have a duo show.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I just ice them out, and then eventually they get the point.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

What do you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you do, Asuka?

[Ryan]

Well, sometimes they're like, attention, attention. So you really have to say something. Yeah, I mean, then I'll just acknowledge that. Like, I do say that. Oh, now. Well, now it's just a hang. And I'm trying to be nice, too. Yeah, it's. It's a fine line, you know? Yeah, yeah. It's just like, kind of reminding them, like, oh, you know. Oh, look around really quick. Oh, look around. Yeah, See, it's kind of more like a. It's a show. You know what I mean? Like, oh, you know, there's. There's more people here. Whatever it is, it depends on what they're saying. You know, it's hard when they're excited. It's hard when it's because they were stoked.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah, they're generally excited. They really want to do that, but they're just laughing louder than everyone in the room, laughing longer than everyone else.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm like, shut up. Let me do my show. I think that we should introduce a Wario World version of Asuko to the world where you get to be mean, like, but. But it's not you. It's kind of like doing it. It's kind of like a ventriloquist. Like, Asuko's not mean. You know, maybe this is. Maybe this. This is Abigail. I don't know who this is. You know what I mean? Maybe it's. Maybe it's Osco Scos. I'm trying to say her name backwards. Atsuko Sko ots. Whoever it is, you have this. This. This Wario Watsco.

[Ryan]

Yes, Watsco.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I like Watsco.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Watsco wears Black Island. So, like, let's say there's a moment happening in the show, and you. And you're over it. You just go, I'm sorry. You take out your black eyeliner, you put on black lipstick, and then you clip the bangs back. And now Watts goes here, and she is ripping people to shreds.

[Ryan]

Clipping bangs back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's reading people down, letting people have it. And then once the threat has been neutralized, you unclip the bangs, you wipe off the eyeliner, you put back on some orange or red or, you know, pink lipstick, and then you just go, all right, so where was I? Oh, yeah. I like to stand in every corner of my apartment.

[Ryan]

Oh, my God, I do. I love that. That would be very freeing. But clipping the bangs back, ooh, that's terrifying. Showing my forehead. I don't have one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So can. Okay, listen. Okay. You don't have to do this. I want you to know that you're in a space where you can always say, no. This is a safe space. But we could have a sibling rivalry exclusive where we could find out if you do have eyebrows. I don't have them, so you're in safe space. Could we get an eyebrow sneak peek? If there are eyebrows, you don't have to look back just a little up.

[Ryan]

Oh, please. No, I am happy to show you. Okay. And what if there's a third eye? There's a third eye. It's blinking. It's blinking. I'm happy. This is why I haven't shown anyone. Okay, there's a little baby. There's a little baby that I've been hiding. Okay, ready? My. My forehead is very short.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, wait. Before you show. Before you show me, before you show. Monet, we want. I want to talk. Let's. What do we think we're going to see? I think, I think they are. There are eyebrows there.

[Ryan]

That's very sweet. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And they're, they're, they're pro. I feel like they're thick. Like, thick Eugene Levy.

[Ryan]

Oh, yes. I would love that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you think we're going to see? Mon to.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I think this. Call me crazy. I think we're going to see flesh and skin under there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Describe the eyebrows.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I think Osco's eyebrows. I want to say. Not Eugene. Eugene Levy is crazy. That girl. Those are, those are once a century kind of eyebrow. There's no way that's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm going to say there's.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

They're nicely manicured, not overly bushy, but like a nice, like, like a nice. Think of like 2012 eyebrow. Like, not the, like, not like the crazy thick makeup brows, but the nice, like thin, like gottmiki brows.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cause you wouldn't have to. Because if you. You would never have to get your eyebrows done. Cause you don't really show them exactly.

[Ryan]

Yeah. So that's very nice. You said manicured. You know, because sometimes I forget. I scream when, when, when it's Windy. When the Santa Ana winds. When the Santa Ana winds are going, I do not leave the house because I'm like, oh, man, this is too vulnerable.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monét X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Prime.

[Monét X Change]

Whatever you're into, it's on Prime. From streaming to shopping, it's on Prime. Visit Amazon.comprime to get more out of whatever you're into. Amazon.comprime and we are back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, an exclusive.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Anyone has ever seen this? Ryan come in the room. Ryan, you want to see some new.

[Ryan]

He's hiding. He's frightened right now. I think I heard him lock the door actually.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I know YouTube is gagging because the video just off oh, yeah.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

YouTube. That cuts off of them. Yeah. Great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, let's go. Let us see. This is. Move that bus.

[Ryan]

Damn it. Oh, I should have taken the whatever. I'll show you to you. Okay, ready?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Taking the what? The what? Wait, what?

[Ryan]

Here we go. I should have taken the break to draw something on my forehead, but whatever. Oh, man. Okay. Whatever.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

This is so exciting.

[Ryan]

I had no time. I. Okay. What? Well, I don't know what I would draw. I don't. Just like, some.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are there stickers? Do you have stickers? Stickers?

[Ryan]

A poster that just says, help me just Tylenol. I'm sponsored. I'm sponsored by Tylenol.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, here we go.

[Ryan]

Okay. Okay. Here we go. Here we go. Okay. It's going to be so underwhelming. It's so tiny, isn't it? Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You look like a different. I don't even recognize you.

[Ryan]

Question. I did used to do this in the mirror. Because you know how this. When you do a middle. Middle part, that's leading lady, right? This is Jennifer Aniston. This is leading lady, right? And then villain.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There it is.

[Ryan]

Villain, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're too sweet to be the villain. You're too sweet to be the villain, Oscar. You're way too fucking sweet to be the villains.

[Ryan]

Okay, Leading ladies, lady, art gallery owner.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There it is. Preschool teacher.

[Ryan]

Wow.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Exclusive work. That was brilliant.

[Ryan]

Why was it. Why was it paler than the rest of my body?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have a. I have a theory. I have a theory.

[Ryan]

Oh, my God. It's malnutrition.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, wait, so what were you studying in college?

[Ryan]

I studied psychology for a little bit. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Bob clearly doesn't listen to Monet talks when we talk about it on Monet talks. Thank you, Bob. Because sureness, you don't listen to my show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is true. I don't support Monet.

[Ryan]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And even though I love Asuko, I had to avoid. Because of the Monet stuff. I actually have Monet on mute for this whole thing. I just read her lips and assume what she's saying. But why? How much college did you finish before you were like, it's a wrap of here?

[Ryan]

It was, I think, a year and a half. A year and a half. Yeah. Right. It was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What made you decide to leave?

[Ryan]

Well, I was driving there too. I was doing like an hour and a half commute, but also each way. Yeah, yeah. Because I didn't want to live on campus. I just. I don't know. I was living with a boyfriend at the time, and it was Santa Clarita. So I'm insane. Who wants to live in Santa Clarita Rita? Me.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I mean, they have.

[Ryan]

They have.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

They have the Six Flags up there. That's pretty nice.

[Ryan]

Yeah. Right? And you just need. But you need to go once a year.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah. Yeah. Not every day.

[Ryan]

I don't know. Are you a thrill seeker?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I like thrills.

[Ryan]

I like.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I like thrills. I like rides. I mean, I like a lot of thrills. I wouldn't jump. I wouldn't skydive. That's not for me. But thrills that are a little lower stakes. I'm into that one. Seems like a lot of stakes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can we catch the Coop? Monet, Jumping off a building?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah. That's not. That's not. That's not jumping out of an airplane. And also, that one, you're connected to, like, 19 wires. The plane is just you attached to some motherfucker. You. You are. Your whole life is in this person's one hands.

[Ryan]

I know. Remember when. I think it was like, George Bush Sr. Did that, and then he, like, skidded. Oh. Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is Monet saying she's not a thrill seeker.

[Ryan]

Sky tower.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet. Monet decided to vlog herself jumping off of a building.

[Ryan]

Good. Because it's once in a lifetime. Oh, it's so terr. Terrifying.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

It was an awful New Zealand. It was so fun. Oh, my God, that wig. You know, what can I tell y' all about that? So I went up there. I was like, you know, I have a plan. I was like, I'm gonna go in full drag. And I wore. I was just off of All Stars 4. So I was like, oh. When I did the double kitty cat reveal, I said, okay, I'm gonna wear two wigs. What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna reveal it as I'm falling off.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

As soon as I left off that.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Building, every thought I ever had in my mind evaporated. I couldn't find the fucking gumption to do with my wig.

[Ryan]

Did you do the reveal? You land and then you do it? Is that. I mean, one hand is on the GoPro, the other hand is just holding your heart. Right? I mean, what can you. You can't. You can't. You know.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Would either of y' all do that? Jump off a sky tower?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Ryan]

Never. Never. I. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow. I don't even go in the. I don't even. I don't. I refuse to go into the ocean.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

That's good to know.

[Ryan]

Same.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

What?

[Ryan]

I just learned how to swim. I am like a new swimmer.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I Will not set one foot in the ocean. I will go to the beach, but I don't fuck with the ocean. Only I'll be on. The ocean is on a gigantic ship a hundred feet off the surface of the water. I am. I don't seek any thrills. I don't want to drive fast. I don't want.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

You get. A roller coaster is. That's the thrill. That's a thrill.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A roller coaster's safer than your car. Like a roller coaster is like, ooh, this like a. There's a difference between an adrenaline rush and thrill seeking.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I think a roller coaster is a thrill is a. They're literally called thrill rides.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A roller coaster is called a thrill ride.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you. Are you just making up more things again? Are you, Are you. Are you. Are you starting the Wikipedia page right now?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Thrill rides at Disneyland. And there's a bunch of roller coaster thrill rides at Universal. There's a bunch of roller coasters. They're called thrill rides.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Again for me, it's, for me. Anyway, it's more of an adrenaline rush than a. Like, for example, watching a scary movie. I'm not an actual. I'm not. There's no actual thrill. Even in the movie called a thriller. I'm in no danger. Thrill seekers are doing stuff like jumping from building to building type rope walking, mountain climbing, running with the bulls where there's an actual danger. I don't want any thrills where there's actual danger.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Thrilling does not mean danger. Thrilling just means exciting. That's what it is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't want any danger.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

It's not dangerous excitement.

[Ryan]

Didn't you swim by sharks too? Or like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh my God.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah, I went scuba diving. There were, there were some. There were some, some, some, some nurse sharks and reef sharks.

[Ryan]

And it was just you, like nearby. You didn't have like, you know, I don't know what is, like, what is it? You're in a cage or something?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

No, no cage, but nurse sharks and reef sharks, they're like maybe like 3ft, 3 to 3 to 6ft. And they don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They don't.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

They don't eat humans. They don't. They don't. They eat other fish.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bite.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

You don't have to be eating. You can be bite.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bitten.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

They don't bite humans either.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But not dangerous.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

There are no. There are. I'll give you to the end of the year to find there are no reportings of nurse sharks or reef sharks biting humans. They. They bite and eat other fish. They don't bite humans.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're called Nerd. Sharks.

[Ryan]

Neuro. Neuro.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

No. Nurse. Nurse.

[Ryan]

When it. When it comes to maybe danger, I'm. I am more like Bob. And then when it comes to maybe like just, I don't know, spirit or something, I'm more like Monet. But, yeah, I. I saw you swimming in the ocean deep, and I was like, whoa. I mean, that's bottom feeders right there. Where. Yeah, I, you know, I did like, bob around at the, like near the shore once, you know, but I was screaming every time the waves were coming.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Wait, so when y' all went to Disneyland. Disneyland. Disneyland. Did y' all. Did you get on Tower Terror? The Guardians of the Galaxy?

[Ryan]

Yes. But I kept like. They were like, before we started, I kept asking to get off. By the way, your. Your boyfriend, that's the real seeker. Yeah, he is everything. He was like, yes, yes, yes. I. Every time they would shut the doors, they shut the doors on you. You're in like an elevator. It's frightening.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I love that.

[Ryan]

Traumas in elevators from Nashville.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, the south is. It's scarier than going. Going to the south is scarier than going to Six flags. It is 100%.

[Ryan]

They shut the doors and I said, excuse me, Excuse me, can we. I would like to get off. I said that four times. And then I felt bad. I was holding everyone up in ride, so I was like, fine, I'll do it. And yeah, so that was the. That's the scariest ride.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Incredible company, Otsuko. Because I'm really not the. The type of person who'd ever be petty because I would never, ever do that. But anyway, Business Insider has an article. It's really quite stunning. It's that a model was bitten by a shark by. By a nurse by shark while on vacation in the Bahamas and now says she has. Facing the sexist backlash. She was bitten by a nurse shark.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I said, a reed shark.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You said nurse sharks and reed sharks. Anyway, she had a time. It took me less than three minutes to find that. Dang.

[Ryan]

Dang. So it's like this. So is there always. Bob always has a laptop out for when y' all are hanging out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I Google everything. When you have friends like this, you have to fact check. When you have friends like. Like that one over. Over next to you, you have to fact check.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Wrong side. I say this every time. I'm always to your left.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yes.

[Ryan]

But you're into science, right? Like, so Monet's into. I feel like you're. You're, you know, you're.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah, well, Bob Bob famous on this podcast, want to. Wanted to abolish libraries, which I believe in libraries. Bob doesn't like libraries.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Monet wanted to abolish antibiotics. So I guess we all got crazy things we do, huh?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

You know, we all. You know, it was the thing where before I had health insurance and thought the doctors. Atsuko were just trying to, were just trying to scam me for more money. I'm like, if my, if I feel better, why do I need to finish the antibiotics? I can just save it for the next time I'm sick. That's what my. I mean, my brain. That made sense.

[Ryan]

Sure. Right. Stretching it out. That because, because medicine has failed us.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Exactly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, and, and, and, and I do want to repeat on this podcast, it is very important, if you are prescribed antibiotics, finish the entire round of antibiotics prescribed to you. Do not stop your antibiotics. Once your symptoms go away, you will be. You, you, you could be creating a super bug or even a tolerance against antibiotics. That being said, you are a model. You're not just a comedian. You are a full fledged model. You are a stunning, stunning woman. You did, you did this vanity photo shoot, like this Vanity Fair shoot. Tell me about that experience.

[Ryan]

Oh, my gosh. It was the first time they put me in wires and had me flying in the air. Me as a non thrill seeker. I was like, how long? They were like, you're a football player. You are flying in the air. You are catching. That was the first time I ever held a football.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said, that's hilarious.

[Ryan]

I kept dropping it. They were like, can you please? You're. They were like, you are the. What is it? The quarter back. So I said, okay. And so I held the ball and I kept pointing. They had football players, they hired football players to like be in the shoot too. And so they were like, you are the quarterback pose like it. So I held the ball and I kept pointing at the football players. Like I was about to throw it at them and they had, they had to be like, stop, stop, please stop. Quarterbacks don't do that. They don't point. And I was like. I said, why not? Why don't. Why wouldn't you point at the person you're about to throw it to? They were like, because it gives it away. I was like, I don't know what you have me doing something that's not of my interest, playing football, you know, but I was in these like beautiful dresses in the air. Yeah, that, that was cool. I felt like I was in like Crouching Tiger, you know, I'M so goofy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I thought you were. I literally thought you were jumping. I did not know you.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I was like, girl, you got hops. That is hops.

[Ryan]

Oh, incredible. Yes. Yeah, yeah, that's so. That was all wires. That was all wires. I probably get 2 inches off the floor on my own.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you athletic at all?

[Ryan]

I guess the dance like, you know, because I did dance like as a kid and stuff. Like the former. Yeah, a little bit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because of dance, the truth comes out. Oh, I can't dance. Now we find out that Osco has a full on eight years. Tap, jazz, ballet, lyrical and hip hop. She's like, yeah, she's like, well, when. Well, when I was at Juilliard for dance, that's when I realized that's when.

[Ryan]

I dropped psychology was to.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Well, also this photo shoot looks like something out of like Top Model. Remember like when Top Model would do Tyra Banks would have them do like again, as a model you'll have to sell milk to. As a basketball player playing football and you're like, it's giving Top Model photo like Tyra is off screen. Jay Manuel is there telling you hire Atsuka.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hi.

[Ryan]

Yes, that's, that's, that's what I felt like. Yes. But it was a man. It was a man being. Being like quarterback. You quarterback. Okay, okay, okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I love that. I don't know much about football, but I. I love that you keep saying I was holding the ball. I don't know why. Why a quarterback would hold the ball like a loaf of bread.

[Ryan]

What are you holding? Is that. Oh, your tissue box.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it's. I think it's the. Like this.

[Ryan]

Oh, wow. Unnatural. She's a natural.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because this, they're not pointing, but this gives you leverage to. To throw the ball.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Got it.

[Ryan]

Oh, okay. Athletes. And the truth comes out here. And the truth comes out here. Excuse me, former shot put.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Here comes.

[Ryan]

I'm like, I'm so sorry. What? Oh, wow. Varsity football. Football.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Imagine I was expecting of the drama.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Club, honey, there should have been varsity drama club. That would have been cool.

[Ryan]

So, yeah, then real bullies would come out. Oh, you're just jv.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I know. Oh my God. Like drama people need any more reason to be pretentious and annoying. The drama kids in my school were the most annoying. They always. They were all sleeping with each other. They were all so rude. Ugh. The drama kids were the ones worst.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I'm sure the singing department was great. I'm sure the singers were lovely.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

The singers were amazing. No drama. We all cause Singers, we care about community. Like, we care about fostering community and love with each other. That's what we like, you know, I did kind of.

[Ryan]

I did kind of half and half. I. I did theater the last year, and then we kind of worked together with, like, the choir a little bit because. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So what is your. What is your issue with. With emojis? Why can you not decipher emojis?

[Ryan]

Emojis, I throw a lot around too, because I don't have time to be, like, witty in text. You know, when people are really witty and funny, I'm like, oh, my God, that must have taken 10 minutes. I just want to let you know where to meet. I just want to let you know this is the restaurant we're meeting at. But you know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

I do want to impress. And so I put emojis so people know that, like, you know, hey, this is meant to be nice. Okay. And. Or, you know, I'm sending you love, and so I just use for over and over. Over. Honestly, it's. I guess the hug emoji, the one that I was trying to just be nice with.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

And then the heart and then, like, heart face.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah, I don't use that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Eyes, you mean?

[Ryan]

And then there's one where there's hearts all over your face like someone just kissed you.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah. I mean, I'll use a group. I love you putting an emoji in a group text. First of all, I don't. I don't love a group text, and I hate when someone in a group. Group text. This is not. This is not to shade Android people. I'm just saying when someone in a group text is. With an Android device, you can't leave because group text with only. Only. Only when it's all Apple people. You can, like, leave the conversation when it's. When. When there's just one viral Android person in it. You were locked into this group text until people just stopped texting.

[Ryan]

Oh, wait, Ryan's unlocking the door right now. He's coming back out. He's gonna fight. No, he's an Android person. And at Disneyland. At Disneyland, they went. Was a. I got my.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I got my. I got my pixel. And also to be clear, pixel, too.

[Ryan]

Oh, wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And to be clear us with pixels, we can leave. I can leave. And you're trapped in the group text that I created.

[Ryan]

Oh, my God. I should know. I should have known everything when you were saying that that it was pointed at Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's always Asuko. If there's ever Shade. If it's mean, if it's nasty, if it's rude, if it's distasteful, if it's bullying, it's directed at me. If it's coming from Macaroni x cheese, it's directed at me. My favorite emoji is this one. I cannot stand.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Wait, you're frozen. I can't see it.

[Ryan]

Oh, show us. Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is my favorite emoji. That's my fave. I love that.

[Ryan]

I'll show you what he just did.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Oh, that one.

[Ryan]

You can't do it right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love that. I love that.

[Ryan]

Can you describe it for our audio only listeners?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

So thank you, Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you all can do this at home. Close one of your audio eyes, stick your tongue out and kind of smile, but your tongue's a little to the side. That's the way. And it's like that. In my mind, the sound that goes at emojis. Da. I was just playing.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Really?

[Ryan]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

No, that one. I. I can see with emojis, context matters. Often if you send that after, like, maybe with someone you've hooked up with or someone you want to hook up with, it has a really. You're not telling them. Ah, now you're telling them, like, hey, hey. Like, I think context matters with. With all the money, I wouldn't send.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That to someone I just hooked up.

[Ryan]

With because they might get confused.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

It's fun and flirty.

[Ryan]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't. Yeah, I guess it is fun and flirty. Yeah. For me, so much is, like, connected to food. I don't know why. That one's like. That was tasty. What? I don't. I must read.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I must tasty.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're hungry.

[Ryan]

I'm. I'm. Yeah, I'm usually starving. Always starving. I like the other one that's, like, more wacky. It's also tongue, but the eyes are crossed, like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah. I'm gonna give it a shot.

[Ryan]

The head is tilted and the head is tilted.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I cross my.

[Ryan]

Yeah, that one. That one.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah, I like that one too. So we have a game that we want to play with you, Atsuko and Jacob, our producer, has prepared it where he's gonna give us emojis and we're gonna decipher them. Jacob.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I have some obscure emojis. You're just gonna talk about them, what we think this means means, and what.

[Ryan]

Situation you would use this in. Ooh, nice. Fun.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So to the listeners at home, this is a woman with. It could be a bob. It could be longer Hair. But it's a white lady with her. She could be. She could also be Hispanic. She might be Puerto Rican. And she's wearing a purple sweater. And she has her hands over her head. Like, her arms are around her head, and they're over her head, like, slightly overlapping. Asuko. What are we looking at? What am I taking. Telling you? So just to be clear, I just left your house, we had a wonderful evening. We had pizza, we ordered out, and I just send you just this emoji. What am I trying to communicate?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I know exactly what it's. I. I know exactly what it's saying. But you. Yeah, I know. Go ahead. School.

[Ryan]

I. I have no idea. I. Is she saying that everything was perfect? So her entire body says, saying, yes. She's circling the night.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There we go. Monet, what do you think's happening here?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Okay, so if we're just out. I was at your house, had a lovely dinner. I left home. I said, okay, I'll let you know. I get home when I send this. That means I got home. I'm home for real.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's a house.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I'm home.

[Ryan]

It's a house.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I'm in my house.

[Ryan]

Her arms are not long enough to do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're not body shaming.

[Ryan]

No, I know. I know. But they drew her, so why not give a little more arm? I don't. That's a house.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah, right.

[Ryan]

You know, I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, so try that one out. Monae, can you give us the next scenario for this next emoji, please?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Okay. Next emoji. Okay.

[Ryan]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Okay. So we were all. We all just went out. We had, like, a nice birthday out. At a nice birthday party at someone's birthday. We went to Dave and Buster's for the evening. And then we're at the table, and we're ordering food, and then. And a shady friend came, and Bob texts to you. What is Bob saying to you?

[Ryan]

Okay, should I describe this for the listener?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Oh, yes, yes, yes.

[Ryan]

So this is what I think is a Chinese man, because he has a. That's a Chinese hat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is Asuko's voice. Just say, oh, no, that's not Bob. That was not Monet.

[Ryan]

Oh, yes. No. This is me describing my people. But I think that's a Chinese man with a Chinese hat from, like, you know, back in the day, like, Emperor Dynasty. And so. But that's what I'm seeing again. I'm not really good at inter. I've never been good at pictures.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You nailed that. We're at dinner, and I'M letting you know he's very sensitive about his heritage. He does not want to be called and do not ask him. I'm just letting you know. He really wants people to know that he is Chinese. So. Asco, you actually nailed that. That is exactly what I was trying to communicate. Thank you so much there.

[Ryan]

Oh, my God. And to all the people out there who are Chinese and sensitive about it, get over it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, Watsko's back here.

[Ryan]

Hey, we accept you. All right. So that's why. Yeah. Oh, my God. These get harder.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So this is, this is what. This is what has just happened. Okay.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

This is y' all the yellow emoji with the smoke or bubbles around it. I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, so you have just. You. We're in college now. Okay. We are in college. And you. I asked you, do you want to come come over? You say, well, who's all there? I say, it's just me and Jacob. And you say, what are y' all doing? I send this emoji.

[Ryan]

Oh, my God. You know, I didn't finish college, so same. This is already cloudy. High five. So this is. Hmm. Okay. I said, who else is there? And you send this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I say, jacob, and you say, what are y' all doing? And I send this emoji.

[Ryan]

What are y' all doing? Yeah, this is. Is really. Oh, maybe you're both. You have a. You both have a cold. And so you've turned on. So the humidifier is on. It's cloudy. It's cloudy in there. And so that's. What you're doing is just some self care.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is literally exactly it. Yes. Jacob and I have turned on the vaporizer. We have put tea tree oil in the humidifier. You are literally nailing these. We have one more. We have one more.

[Ryan]

I can't believe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet. What's the scenario?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Okay, okay, okay. So again, we're at another. Out for another birthday party outing. And then we. This time we went to an. We went to the Golden Corral the. Of an all you can eat. We ate all, all, all, all, all the food. And then. And then Bob goes to the bathroom and text us to the group chat. What is he trying to say to him?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you all know this is the emoji where he. He low key looks half baked. His eyebrows and his eyes are all kind of facing down. His mouth is smiling. There's drool, two driblets of drool, one significantly larger than the other one dripping out of the side of his mouth. And it's not a face it's not like the face, like a human face. It's the circle, like a. Like the Walmart guy from the early stalkings.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Oh, my God, the Walmart guy.

[Ryan]

What is Bob trying to say from the bathroom? I feel like he's saying, y' all, there's a better snack in here. I found one. I found. I found him. He's. Get over here.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Honestly, you nailed it. That. That is Bob behavior.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're not bad at deciphering emojis. You're literally perfect. You figured almost all of them out. Yes, I am having a snack in the bathroom out of charact.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

It's not at all. Bob done found a twink in the bathroom and he's having his second dinner.

[Ryan]

Oh, my God. But to tell all the friends. But to tell everyone. Get over here.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You just got back from you. If you have any other. Any other tour days coming up. Where can people see you? You are so funny. You're so stylish. You are so charming. You're so fucking sweet. Where can people come. Where can someone come and break up with their girlfriend in the front row? Your shirt.

[Ryan]

Oh, my God. Well, that's Bay Area behavior. So that's in the Bay. Well, yeah, I'm just, you know, on Otsuko comedy.com is where all my dates are. My fall tour, I'll be announcing very soon. So exciting.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

And your new special father debuts on. Congratulations. Hoo. HBO. Hulu. Your new special father debuts on June 13th on Hulu. Big, big, big congrats, girl. That's so fun.

[Ryan]

Thank you so much. Y' all are the sweetest. No matter what anyone says and no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Matter what we say about each other.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Each other.

[Ryan]

About each other. And thank you for having me on this dynamic duo.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Also, your special is debuting during Pride. Rightfully so. We love you.

[Ryan]

Oh, my God. I told. Here's the thing. I'll really quick. Mateo's is this month with Hulu, right? May. And I was telling Bob because Mateo, I guess Matteo shot first, so he was like, I'll go May. And then so Hulu was like, you got June? And I was like, doesn't that makes more sense that I go during Asia Month and Mateo get Pride Month? And I think they said. They said, well, you know, Mateo said he's more than just gay. And I was like, well, yeah. Yes, but yes. And I'm more than Asian. Yeah, but I'm not gonn. But we tell the press that. You know what I mean? All Pride Month, it's going to be about the parades, commercials, all the sponsors, it's all pride, pride, pride. And then I'm just going to be like, hey, watch me, watch me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you got these two queens over here who will be telling people to go watch your stuff. I am, I am, I am more than black and gay, but I am mostly black and gay. I'm mostly. That's most of the whole thing. Thing, to be honest. That's, that's like 70% of what this is, you know.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Yeah. But you know what, we are happy to, you know, accommodate. We, we love our honorary Asia Matteo.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Amen. Amen. Osco, thank you for, thank you for coming on by the podcast. This is such a fun episode. We love you so much.

[Ryan]

Oh my gosh. Thank you for having me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y' all be sure. June 13, check out Father on Hulu and go to Oscar those social media to check out when, when the fall tour will be happening. And we love y' all. We'll see y' all soon.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Monét X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hello friends old and new. Do you like video games?

[Ryan]

Do you like interviews with industry insiders? Do you like stupidity?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm Jess Pardue, host of the brand new podcast Stupid Little Games.

[Ryan]

Every other week I sit down with various members of the gaming industry. From CEOs of AAA studios to indie devs shipping their very first title. We chat about our current gaming obsessions.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We tell stories from projects past or present. And then we play a stupid little game that I've written specifically for each guest. So search for stupid little games wherever you get your podcast.

[Ryan]

See you next Tuesday.