The One About Being Cool

Summary

Podcast Summary: Sibling Rivalry – "The One About Being Cool"

Release Date: March 16, 2026
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
Episode Theme: What Does It Mean to Be Cool?
Podcast Network: Studio71 & Confetti Cannon

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Episode Overview

In this uproariously candid episode, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change dig deep (and get sidetracked, as always) on the theme of “being cool.” From their personal definitions to playground tales of popularity, accidental window peeping, the curse of people-pleasing, and whether either would write a memoir, the duo explores the social construct of “cool” with their signature humor and unfiltered honesty. Expect playful bickering, reflections on their own lives and careers, and plenty of off-topic gems.

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Key Topics & Discussions

1. Icebreaker Game: Counting with Weird Rules

Timestamps: 02:00–07:00

• Jacob introduces a classic improv game: replace numbers with random words or sounds when counting to 10.
• Highlights the group’s chaotic energy and competitive cheating.
• Notable quote:
  • Bob: “Bitch, I thought we were saying oatmeal. 3 is oatmeal. How did you lose already?” (02:58)

2. Couch Preferences & At-home Nudity

Timestamps: 07:11–14:00

• Debates about couch cushions and sitting habits.
• Monét admits to walking around her yard pantless and sitting around the house in just a T-shirt.
• Bob is worked up about the hygiene of sitting bare, especially on living room furniture.
• Notable quote:
  • Bob: "Are your booty cheeks just spread on your living room couch?" (14:09)
  • Monét: “No, I'm not sitting on my couch naked. But, like, for example, right?” (14:22)

3. Peeping, Privacy, and City Life

Timestamps: 09:31–13:45

• They discuss whether it’s weird to glance into open windows when walking city streets.
• Stories of accidentally seeing neighbors naked or doing more.
• Notable exchange:
  • Bob: “I don’t think that’s crazy. If I walk by and your window's open and I look in, that's not weird at all.” (10:25)
  • Monét: “If you stand for 10 seconds, that's an intentional peeping Tom.” (10:55)
  • Bob: “I used to catch my neighbor masturbating all the time for hours. Hours.” (13:00)

4. High School Popularity & The Origins of "Cool"

Timestamps: 19:24–22:14

• Monét and Bob reflect on their own perceived popularity in high school and what it really means to be “cool.”
• Socioeconomic limitations—Bob couldn’t buy a yearbook or graduation ring.
• Notable quote:
  • Bob: “We couldn't afford one. They're very expensive.” (20:31)
  • Monét: “Sorry to that, man.” (20:44)

5. The Case of the Iowa Test (ITBS) and Educational Gaps

Timestamps: 22:14–29:00

• Bob quizzes the group about standardized tests, referencing the Iowa Test of Basic Skills (ITBS).
• Monét and friends didn’t take it, sparking a debate over educational standards, regional differences, and confusion about acronyms.
• Notable exchange:
  • Bob (after polling friends): “You are the minority here. No, they did not.” (25:36)
  • Monét: “We've called for—who takes the ITBs. Four people now.” (25:42)

6. Digression: Paying for Meals and Social Etiquette

Timestamps: 48:33–52:31

• Riffs on how to handle splitting restaurant bills, who pays, and whether it’s ever fair to just divide things equally.
• They reminisce on the days when meals were much cheaper and complain about the high cost of fast food.
• Notable quote:
  • Monét: “Girl, in 2026, if you go to anyone getting a $12 entree, bitch, you can't get a $12 entree. At fucking McDonald's. McDonald's. The entrees are 20 or $19.” (51:22)

7. What Actually Is “Cool” in Adulthood?

Timestamps: 37:14–42:54

• Thoughtful back-and-forth on what constitutes “cool” now that they’re adults.
• Bob makes an argument against the performative “cool” persona and praises unabashed individuality.
• Examples given: Jinkx Monsoon (authenticity), Ocean Kelly (originality), Naomi Smalls (effortless attitude), Brennan Lee Mulligan (nerdy passion).
• Notable quotes:
  • Bob: “There’s something really cringey to me about being cool these days…like aura farming.” (37:36)
  • Monét: “I think someone who is effortlessly cool…just existing.” (38:58)

8. The Curse of People-Pleasing

Timestamps: 42:01–47:42

• Bob and Monét deconstruct how being a “people pleaser” can make someone less cool and, frankly, unpleasant to be around.
• Hilarious real-life example of someone refusing to use his Sharpie backstage, insisting on getting another one to not inconvenience him.
• Notable quotes:
  • Bob: “Your people-pleasing is not pleasing. It’s really not.” (42:15)
  • Monét: “That's not a normal interaction, though.” (44:52)

9. Memoirs, Memory, and Documenting Family History

Timestamps: 53:18–70:50

• Would Bob write a memoir? He doubts it, not thinking his life is as interesting as others.
• Monét proposes a memoir as an exploratory journey with his mother—highlighting the power of sharing and archiving family stories before they’re lost.
• Bob recounts secretly recording conversations with his mother before she passed.
• Notable exchange:
  • Monét: “Your first paragraph begins you having…well, how much you came to New York City with?” (66:18)
  • Bob: “I wouldn't start my book in New York City. My story would start when I'm in…” (66:43)
  • Bob: “You all listening? You should definitely document your parents while they're alive. Once they're gone, it’s gone.” (69:09)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Bob (on “cool” people): "I actually find it…cringey. Something about it just doesn't…Something about it is really—and I actually, what I think is more interesting is people who are like, so themselves. Even if other people find it cringey or unappealing…I actually find that really cool." (37:36)
• Monét (on city privacy): "If I walk by, you have all your windows open. That's not weird. But if I stop and I'm like, that's too…" (10:31)
• Bob (on bills): “When the bill comes, I assume we're paying for our own food…if I'm with like a friend and I will offer to pay, I will offer to pay for people's food, but if they give any protest, then I just go, okay." (50:00)
• Monét (reflecting on memoirs): “I'm like, curious about my own, like, life and my family before I was around.” (68:30)

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Memorable Segments and Laugh-Out-Loud Moments

• “Are your booty cheeks just spread on your living room couch?” (14:09) – Bob to Monét, on bare-butt couch etiquette.
• The “counting game” fails, with oatmeal and giraffe as number substitutes (02:00–07:00).
• Complimenting outfits through a webcam and the running gag about Monét not wearing pants (09:00–09:39).
• Ongoing friendly “iconic vs better” banter about who is the superior drag queen (29:40–30:15).
• The recurring thread about the elusive ITBS test and Bob's bewilderment at education outside the South (22:14–29:00).

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Final Reflections

Monét and Bob’s exploration of “being cool” tracks a journey from superficial standards to genuine self-possession. While the conversation zigzags gloriously—from naked lounging and school tests to social norms in paying for dinner and deeper personal history—the pair returns again and again to the virtue of being true to oneself, and not bending to people-pleasing or trends.

Their warmth, constant ribbing, and honest vulnerability make this episode not just fun, but also a quietly profound meditation on living with authenticity—coolness be damned.

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References & Recommendations

• People Mentioned:
  • Jinx Monsoon, Naomi Smalls, Ocean Kelly, Brennan Lee Mulligan
• Memorialized advice:
  • Archive your family stories while you can!
• Running Joke:
  • If you’re going to lie, make it worthwhile—because the other sibling will absolutely fact-check you.

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For anyone who has ever questioned their own “cool factor” or survived the insecurity of high school popularity contests, this episode offers laughter, wisdom, and the reminder that the coolest people are the ones being exactly who they are.

Transcript

[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet x Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen,

[Monet x Change]

and I'm Monet x Change. And this is simply rivalry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On this week's episode, Monet's gonna pod out with her hog out.

[Monet x Change]

We talk about being cool, and we

[Bob the Drag Queen]

find out what made Monet say this.

[Monet x Change]

That's not a normal interaction, though. And we find out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are your booty cheeks just spread on your living room couch?

[Jacob]

Okay, so the first part is, you're gonna take turn. You're gonna count to 10 in each of the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're gonna say, I know this game.

[Jacob]

Every number. Bob, you're gonna go. One, Monet, two. Bob, three.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I know this game is fun.

[Monet x Change]

I don't know this game. What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Jacob, you're gonna count to 10,

[Jacob]

and you're gonna take turns with each number. So, Bob, start.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

One. Yeah. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Now, Jake, you have to keep track of these things. Okay? So now three is oatmeal. The number three becomes oatmeal. You ready?

[Jacob]

So instead of saying three, when you're counting, you say oatmeal.

[Monet x Change]

Okay?

[Jacob]

And you replace it. But it doesn't have to be a word. It can be a sound. It could be a movement. It could Be something crazy.

[Monet x Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

1, 2, oatmeal, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, oatmeal, 10. Bitch, I thought we were saying oatmeal. 3 is oatmeal. How did you lose already? This is crazy. I thought you said three is oatmeal. No, I said three is oatmeal.

[Monet x Change]

Got it. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. We gotta start over.

[Monet x Change]

We gotta start over.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We should get it wrong. You have to start over. That's how the game goes.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't have to play if we're exhausted. You don't have to play the game. I'm so sorry.

[Monet x Change]

Okay. One, two, three.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sorry.

[Monet x Change]

Oatmeal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, we starting over.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, like, so. There are no. There's just regular numbers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nothing. That's how the game works.

[Monet x Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Okay, do you want to pick what one is? What one of the numbers is?

[Monet x Change]

I'll. I'll choose the number I want. Two is going to be giraffe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. One giraffe. Three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. All right, seven is.

[Monet x Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

One giraffe. 3, 4, 5, 6, Eight, nine, ten.

[Monet x Change]

Okay, now. Yeah. Since you're trying to give me a number, I'm gonna give you one. Six is now. Ow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, let's find the side.

[Monet x Change]

No, you're odd.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Otherwise, you're getting the same way every time, and it makes it easier.

[Monet x Change]

So I gotta do. Ow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. One giraffe, three, four, five.

[Monet x Change]

Ow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Eight, nine, ten. Okay, five is seven.

[Monet x Change]

Five is seven.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, my God. That's ridiculous stuff.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, so one giraffe, three,

[Monet x Change]

four, seven,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Eight, nine, ten. Jesus Christ. This is hard.

[Monet x Change]

Okay, now, three is. Three is 12.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, one giraffe, 12, four, Seven. Ow. Eight, nine, ten. All right, one is. One is.

[Monet x Change]

Broadway composer Angie Lloyd Webber like that whole sentence?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yep.

[Monet x Change]

That's so stupid.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, Broadway composer Andrew Lloyd Webber.

[Monet x Change]

Giraffe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ooh, Ooh. Wait, is this one just itself? No, this one is something.

[Monet x Change]

It is something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

5, 12. 3 is 12.

[Monet x Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Damn, this game is hard.

[Monet x Change]

Also, we have a delay, too, as I make. It's a little difficult.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I should have got that. I'm not making excuses for myself, Bob.

[Monet x Change]

I challenge you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

At the age where you have to put a pillow behind your back in a chair, like, there comes an age where if a pillow. If a chair doesn't have cushioning on it, it's insane. And I reach that age, how does. It's crazy to me. What? He takes the cushions off the couch.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, my God. I do too. I don't like stuff behind my back. So when I did my E recap show, the show I do with E and stuff, every. All the other hoes have a big ass pillow behind them. I'm like, can you guys. Can you guys move the pillow from behind my back? I want to be Move the pillow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He takes the cushion off the couch. Well, the back.

[Monet x Change]

Are your couches not. Are your couches deep? Maybe Tao wants to feel like deep.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I reckon so. I think it's crazy. And it means the board's all pushed up against my back. I'm like, this is uncomfortable.

[Monet x Change]

Do you know what I think about? And you can tell. We can cut this out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What? I can't.

[Monet x Change]

I don't know why. I think that nothing to do with me. I don't know why it comes to my brain. I don't know why. But because I sat on it was so comfortable. I think about that sofa you gave your ex.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh. Oh. I mean,

[Monet x Change]

for the three times I sat on it, it was such a comfortable couch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The one time I sat on it, it was also quite nice. The one time I sat on that couch, it was.

[Monet x Change]

I don't know why. Literally for the past week, because. Oh. Cause I think about getting a couch for my bedroom, and I was like, I should ask Bob where he got that couch from, because I actually really like it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, it was like three years ago, so I'd really have to scour the Internet to see where I paid for that thing. But I will say, the very few times I sat on it, it was a very comfortable couch.

[Monet x Change]

Are you gonna compliment my shoes and my outfit for my show tonight?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't see your shoes or your. You mean this Levi's top?

[Monet x Change]

No, the picture right here that I'm pointing to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I can't. I mean, I can't really see them. Are they pink and blue?

[Jacob]

Can you bring them closer?

[Monet x Change]

They're lavender.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is crazy. You want me to compliment a pixel in the background? Yeah, go ahead and waddle over there and get them shoes.

[Monet x Change]

No, I don't want to show like, I have cause. Cause. No, I don't want to get up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You brought this whole cause you're not wearing pants or what? What the fuck?

[Monet x Change]

I have no underwear on. No pants. Bitch, I am. All I have on is a T shirt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You walked to your yard with no pants on? Just pooing it.

[Monet x Change]

It's a private yard. No one else is here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can see into your neighbor's yard, which assumes your neighbor can see into your yard.

[Monet x Change]

But My neighbors aren't looking over there. That means they're looking over the wall. No one's looking over the wall. Also, if you look over, you see me naked. Mind your fucking business, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I think that looking into someone's yard is not a lack of minding your business.

[Monet x Change]

It is. What are you looking for?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, you're looking in your field of vision. Like, I've looked into your neighbor's yard. I'm just like, oh, I'm just looking around. Like, I'm just looking around. And I will say, actually, I want to take it a step further. Looking through someone's window, like, from the street. I don't think that's crazy. If you like. And if you're, like, standing and staring. But if I'm walking down the street and your window's open and I look in, that's not weird at all.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, that's not weird. Like. Like, if you walk in on. If you walk into New York City and you're in the Village or whatever, and you. And you pass by someone's brownstone and you can see in their apartment or just an apartment, like. Like you would on the first floor. If I walk by, you have all your windows open. That's not weird. But if I stop and I'm like, that's too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How long does the stopping become weird? I think if you stop for anything less than five, maybe 10 seconds, that's not weird.

[Monet x Change]

Five seconds? Yes. If you stand for 10 seconds, that's an intentional peeping Tom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I don't. I don't know. I don't know what peeping Tom laws are. Like, if your windows are open and you're standing in front of the window, I don't know if that's a beeping time, Bob.

[Monet x Change]

10 seconds. You know how long 10 seconds is?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

One. But also from the street, mind you. From the street, yeah.

[Monet x Change]

And that's even more weird.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bitch.

[Monet x Change]

Why are you stopping in front in the middle of the block, just staring at my apartment?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, why is your window open?

[Monet x Change]

Um, why is my window open? Because I. I just. So. Because I'm on the first floor, I can. I have to not have my windows open. Because you can't control yourself.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I didn't say you can't have your windows open, but I think if your windows open and someone looks in there, if someone stands for more than 10 seconds, I believe it is strange. But if someone's like. Like, if I walk, like, for example, I used to go next to the monster. Used to be this. This guy. Who. Who had a window that was just open. And I'd be like, I'm gonna look and see what's going on in there.

[Monet x Change]

Did you ever see anything you liked?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, his apartment was a little bit lifted up. So you're really just seeing, like, the roof and, like, the tv. Yeah. Like, three feet in up. You can't see the floor. You couldn't even see a couch. All you can see is, like, the tv, the ceiling, the paintings, and, like, him.

[Monet x Change]

One day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

One day.

[Monet x Change]

Can you and I buy Brownstone together? I want you and I to buy Brownstone in Harlem.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think I want to own a house in anywhere where it snows.

[Monet x Change]

That's only because right now you're in. Girl, you're in the thick of it. You. You chose to make your Broadway debut in the season in New York, where it is snowing. Y' all have had two blizzards this season.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've never wanted to own a house anymore where it snows, ever. Have you ever caught someone, like, having sex through a window unintentionally?

[Monet x Change]

Uh, no. I mean, I think when I used to, when I lived on 144 and Broadway, in my bedroom, I could see a. Because it was facing another building, like, the back of another building. So I could see. And I think sometimes I would see him walking around naked. But never, like, jerking off or anything sexual.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. When I lived at 106 in Amsterdam, I used to catch my neighbor masturbating all the time for hours. Hours.

[Monet x Change]

So he was an exhibitionist for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, maybe because the way the. The way. The way the building was all of. Like, we were. It was in the alley. And if you're living here, so, you know, there aren't really alleys. Like, there's not really alleyways. I mean, that kind of are, but, like, not really, especially in Manhattan. But there is space between buildings on the block, so you can get back there, but getting out is not easy. So if you went on our fire escape or if you look. So all of our windows were facing each other. Everyone's like, bedroom. All of our. The back of our apartments are all facing each other. And from my bedroom, I could just see him masturbating, like, almost every day.

[Monet x Change]

Yeah. I mean, my preferred way of being at home is naked. Like, I like being naked at home, so. And I'm not. Not so. When I used to live in New York City, I'm not. Not going to be naked. Like, then. I mean, like, I don't know, like, it's like, it's like a weird thing. Like, I would, like, put my. Try to have my curtain, but sometimes I want the natural sunlight. I wanted to walk around my apartment naked.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't like walking around my apartment naked. I. Then also now all I think about is if you're at your apartment naked, you just rubbing your ass crack all over all your furniture. Like, is your. Are your booty cheeks just spread on your living room couch?

[Monet x Change]

No, I'm not sitting on my couch naked. But, like, for example, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's say you walk around, but you don't sit down. You walk around naked, but you don't sit down naked.

[Monet x Change]

No, don't be in bed. I mean, I typically watch TV in bed. I'm not a. Do you watch TV on the couch?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Only I don't have a TV in my bedroom.

[Jacob]

Aren't you sitting naked on this chair right now?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Aren't you sitting right now on a chair with your butt cheek on my office chair?

[Monet x Change]

No one else comes in here but me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So this is the only place you've sat down. You don't sit down anywhere else in your house naked? Cause you just said you don't sit down naked. So I'm just curious.

[Monet x Change]

And I said I don't sit on the living room couch naked.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, so you sit on every other surface naked, but it's not the living room couch.

[Monet x Change]

Well, I don't. I. Where else do I sit down in my home?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I really like in the kitchen.

[Monet x Change]

I don't. I don't sit in my kitchen. I stand up. I. I stand up if I get a meal. Also, you know, I don't have a dining room table.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have that. Like, you're standing. You do have a dining room table. It's right there, right Front door.

[Monet x Change]

That's not. That's. That's not. That's not the dining room. That's like the front area.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is a dining room table.

[Monet x Change]

It's a game table, we call it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that how they. Is that how it was branded when they sold it? It's also not a good game table, by the way, a game table should have felt on it like a game table should. I think a good game table is fabric and felted. I've been thinking a lot about this. This is a.

[Monet x Change]

This is such a bomb statement. I'm thinking a lot about gaming table.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I thought about buying a gaming table for the. And I realized that all game tables, they're felted or they have some sort of fabric on them so that the cars can't Slide too far and you can pick them up more easily.

[Monet x Change]

Rob. Rob Anderson had a game table at his house when he lived here in la.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was it Grilton? I don't remember.

[Monet x Change]

This is a long time ago. Well, a long time, but at least like, three years ago. I miss Rob. Shout out to heartthrob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Rob.

[Monet x Change]

I love Rob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you? I don't know Rob like that, but he seemed. The few times I hung out with, he seems nice enough. I didn't know how to engage with that. Like, you're closer to him than I am. I don't know. How do you want to respond to that? This episode is sponsored by Airbnb. I've been having so much fun partnering with them because between drag gigs, filming, and touring, I'm always on the move, and hotel life can be pretty draining. I'm serious, y'. All. Booking stays with Airbnb has changed the game. When I go on tour, I need a home base that actually feels like a home. I love having extra space to spread out. It's those extra, like, everyday comforts, you know what I mean? Like sitting at a real kitchen table or having a cozy living room to decompress in that makes it all the different, you know what I mean? Plus, chatting with hosts gives you that local perspective you just can't get anywhere else. It makes me feel connected to the neighborhood instead of just passing through it. I booked this gorgeous mountain chalet in Jackson Hole on Airbnb with a full view of the Grand Tenns. While I had a show out there, right, I could fully rehearse in the living room or without anyone banging on the walls, barging in, knocking on the door, trying to bring me extra towels and stuff. There's a giant mud room for all my drag at night, and honestly, I sit in the outdoor hot tub under the sars. It felt like a really glamorous retreat.

[Monet x Change]

Traveling this way just feels more authentic and human. So glam up your trip by using Airbnb to find an amazing place to stay.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet x Change]

You know, anyway, go ahead.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What? I don't know how to respond to that. I'm not super close with it.

[Monet x Change]

There's like, no, I'm thinking about that viral. I don't know if his breakfast club was something. Someone says something and then the princess goes, okay. And then it moves the next. I can't remember what viral. What viral thing it is, though. I just remember one chair.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me try again. Say it again.

[Monet x Change]

Shout out to heartthrob Rob. Shout out to heartthrob Rob. I love Rob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Best wishes to Heartthrob. I hope everything's going well for him. Is that good?

[Monet x Change]

That was good. In my opinion, I think Rob is like a cool kid.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, what makes someone cool?

[Monet x Change]

What makes him. You said what makes him uncool or

[Bob the Drag Queen]

someone cool makes someone cool.

[Monet x Change]

I think things that. I think things that make someone cool are their, like, demeanor, their attitude, like how people think about them. I think people think Rob is cool.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you cool?

[Monet x Change]

I don't know if I. I don't. I. I don't know if I'm classified as cool, to be honest. I really don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I mean, it's your own metric.

[Monet x Change]

In high school, I wasn't cool. I mean, I wasn't not cool, but I wasn't cool. I was someone everyone liked, though. So I don't know, but I don't know if that makes you cool, but, you know. No, no, that's not true. In high school, they're like cool kids. They're the cool kids that everybody wants to be friends with that everyone is like, oh, my God, that. That kid is cool. I was not that kid.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In high school, were you popular?

[Monet x Change]

I don't know, to be honest.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I was very popular. I also won a superlative. I can't remember which one, though, to be honest.

[Monet x Change]

I don't remember what my. I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe.

[Monet x Change]

Do you still have your. Do you still have your. Your high school yearbook?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I Never got a high school yearbook.

[Monet x Change]

Why?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We couldn't afford one. They're very expensive.

[Monet x Change]

Sorry to that, man.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you have any other questions? I didn't get a school. I didn't get a graduation ring. I did not get a yearbook. My mother said they were too expensive, so we didn't get one.

[Monet x Change]

I don't think we got graduation from. I don't think my school was such a little artsy. Fartsy school.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think we got.

[Monet x Change]

Girl. I don't think we got anything in any. We didn't have pe. We didn't get grad.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't.

[Monet x Change]

We had to have had a yearbook, but I don't know if I ever got one. I don't remember if I got one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You had to have some physical activity.

[Monet x Change]

I've told you this 19 times. No, we did not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You didn't have a dance class? No, Moni, I think like the national criteria says, you have to have some physical activity. You have to.

[Monet x Change]

Well, they're probably a loophole around art schools. We did not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So your art school doesn't have dance? What kind of art school is this?

[Monet x Change]

They had dance, but for the dance majors. I was a vocal major. Vocal major didn't have dance.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's crazy to me.

[Monet x Change]

Also, is this. Are you shocked that America isn't meeting a standards for all the kids across the country? Is that shocking to you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it is shocking that a school is allowed to operate below the minimum criteria. I do find that shocking, yes. This is someone who came from a school that. Literally a whole county that lost his accreditation. And we had fucking P.E. so, yes, I'm shocked, quite frankly. You always talking about how great the fucking education is here, y'.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y' all great reading level. Y' all niggas can't even walk in a circle. You didn't do physical fitness tests.

[Monet x Change]

We have talked about this 19 times.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now, remind me, you. You've never taken a physical fitness test in school?

[Monet x Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is insane.

[Monet x Change]

No, we did not do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob, did you take a physical fitness test?

[Monet x Change]

Jacob went to fucking Montessori school.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You didn't take a physical fitness test?

[Jacob]

Well, I went to a private school so we didn't have to play by the government's rules.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is insane.

[Jacob]

Maybe we did, but not like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is.

[Monet x Change]

Are you jealous?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bitch, I'm just shocked. Did you take the. Did you take the ITBS test?

[Monet x Change]

I told you this. No, I don't know what that even means.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's the Iowa Test of Basic Skills.

[Monet x Change]

Okay, See, I Think that for y', all, they had to have y' all do that because y' all of the South. So you're like, we got.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone needs to take the ITBS test. This is. First of all, Iowa's not in the south, so why would Southerners take the ITBS test?

[Monet x Change]

What do you mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The word in the south, you said that's Iowa. It's the Iowa Test of Basic Skills. Why would Southerners specifically be taking the Iowa Test of Basics? Sometimes your lack of understanding of how the south works is so bizarre to me.

[Monet x Change]

Well, first of all, I didn't know that. I don't know that ITBS stand. Why would I think ITBS stands for Iowa?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I just said it. I said, it's the Iowa Test of Basic Skills.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, I heard. I heard. I didn't hear Iowa. I heard, like, I like. You were saying, like, I. Something like I like I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Iowa, the state. Iowa. Got it.

[Monet x Change]

So Iowa set the standard for the entire country.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, there's just. Well, I don't know how the Iowa ITBS test became a thing, but I don't even know if they still do the ITBS test. But I remember nationwide, apparently, except at y' all schools, people were taking the ITPS test. It's like a middle school version of an SAT test.

[Monet x Change]

So you're the minority here. Jacob did not do it. I did not do it. You're the minority here. You're not the minority.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A lot of people took the itv. I promise you right now, if you call anyone who's not from Montessori, New York City Monster School, they would be like, yeah, put the ITPS test.

[Monet x Change]

I'd be called Patrick Minor.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Patrick definitely took the itbs. We're almost same age. Patrick definitely took the ITBS test. I don't know if they still have it.

[Monet x Change]

Patty, you're on the podcast. Did you. In school, did you take the ITBS test?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know what that is.

[Monet x Change]

Thank you, Bob. You're the minority.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's the Iowa Test of Basic Skills. I'm telling you, Patrick took the ITBS test.

[Monet x Change]

It is the Iowa Test of Basic Skills. What? It's a test of grade.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Seventh grade.

[Monet x Change]

It's seventh grade.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, no. I was gone most of that. Oh, yeah.

[Monet x Change]

Unlike Lil Kennedy, Patty was working. Patty was a working touring musician. Honey. Thank you, Patty.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know that Patrick would.

[Jacob]

Let's try Taylor.

[Monet x Change]

Patty. Patty was. Yo. Patty was. Patty was in the King and I. Patty was with Backflips. Patty was a touring Broadway star. Star.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honey. Yeah. With this fifth grade education. You're on the podcast, Taylor. Okay, what's up? Did you ever take the ITBS test when you were in school? What? The Iowa Test of Basic Skills. The ITBS test. I've never heard of this test. I'm telling you, all of you guys,

[Monet x Change]

you are the minority. No, they did not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We've called for. Who takes the ITBs. Hold on.

[Monet x Change]

Four people now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

ITBs test. Why is my phone. ITBS test?

[Monet x Change]

Yeah. Cause even your phone is like, this is bullshit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The Iowa Test of Basic Skills is. Are taken by students in kindergarten through eighth grade to measure core academic skills. Hold on. Wait, Taylor, we gotta do the podcast. Oh, he's gone. Okay. To test core academic skills. Widely used in public, private, and homeschool settings. These assessments evaluate general. Evaluate knowledge and reading, language arts, mathematics, science and social studies, grades one through K through eight. Take this primary. Primarily covers reading, language, vocabulary, and math, with science and social studies often included.

[Jacob]

Okay. I think that we. We definitely took standardized tests that were similar, but I guess ours wasn't specifically the ITBS test that was out the rant. But we did take, like. There was a big thing where we're like, I think they sold the test.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They don't take it anymore, apparently. They don't do it anymore. Apparently.

[Jacob]

But we did have to do, like, some government. Like, some standardized testing.

[Monet x Change]

It wasn't that in New York State. We had the regents. But those are, like, testing like

[Bob the Drag Queen]

a.

[Monet x Change]

What you call a subject, not like a basic test of skills. No, we did not do a basic test of. Can I touch?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, ITBS covers all the subjects. It's not like.

[Monet x Change]

It's not like one for each subject. What'd you do? One for science, one for math? Or is it just one test to do all of it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like you weren't listening to anything I just said. It covers. It covers reading, language arts, mathematics, science, and social studies.

[Monet x Change]

I know, but I'm saying was. Did you do, like. So. So did you do, like, one test that was focused only on social studies and the next year you did math, or was it just one test?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is one test that covers multiple. It's like. It's like the SATs. Like. It is one test that covers multiple

[Monet x Change]

topics and you take it one time in seventh grade.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm getting a random call. Devin, hold on. I'm on the podcast. Can I ask you a quick question? Go for it. You're on the podcast. Devin is from New Orleans. Devin, born and raised. Baby. Born and raised baby. There you are. There's Devin, have you ever taken the Iowa Test of Basic Skills or the ITBS test?

[Monet x Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Never. What is. What are y' all doing in your schools?

[Monet x Change]

This is your school.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then there's another one SAT and.

[Jacob]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like state test that we take. I can't remember. It's been. It's been a while. That's high school. ITBS is for eighth grade. And lower. You.

[Monet x Change]

The. You the only.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They had to test y'. All.

[Monet x Change]

Y' all in Georgia because y' all weren't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well. Let me tell right now what it is. That. Yes, they care that we learn things. Shocker. Shocker.

[Monet x Change]

And for your. For your. For your. As we looked it up. Your fucking 30% reading level.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honey, that's not me. Honey, that was you.

[Monet x Change]

We looked it up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honey, it's not me. Me right now. I'm the one bringing Georgia scores up. You're the one bringing new scores down.

[Jacob]

Bob really quick. Can you spell trouble?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

T, R, O, U B, L, E. Now what? And you're lied. You're fully wearing shorts. Why do you lie so much? Why do you like lying? What's your thing with lying?

[Monet x Change]

Well, I want to give you more ammo for your next video. Your next. So when he needs to do a Eureka o' Hara takedown video, you can center it around me again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is a Eureka o' Hara takedown video?

[Monet x Change]

Just like your Ginger Minj takedown video.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is a Eureka o'? Hara? Who's. Who's made a Eureka o' Hara takedown video?

[Monet x Change]

I said if you make one, you can center it around me instead of her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why would I make a takedown video on Eureka o'? Hara?

[Monet x Change]

Because you're probably going to do something

[Bob the Drag Queen]

shady that doesn't even. Nothing you're saying even makes sense.

[Monet x Change]

You don't think that there's a world that you'd have to make a Eureka o' Hara take down video?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't imagine why I would need to make a video trying to take down Eureka o'. Hara. Eureka. And I don't. I have me and Eureka and I don't have any beef.

[Monet x Change]

What about. What. What about all the stuff that the blogs are saying about you guys?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's money.

[Monet x Change]

You're.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is not the traitors. And this is why you got killed after fucking five episodes. Yeah.

[Monet x Change]

Longer than.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're not good at this game.

[Monet x Change]

Longer than you. Better than you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know what? But are you more iconic than me?

[Monet x Change]

Better than you. I am better than you, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you more iconic than me?

[Monet x Change]

I don't care If I'm iconic, I'm better than you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Quickly.

[Monet x Change]

I'm better than you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, you might as well be fucking Lord Ivor stuck around a long time.

[Monet x Change]

Better than you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I gotta be honest, in all honesty, I don't think you were, but that's all.

[Monet x Change]

I was better than you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And what is your metaphor?

[Monet x Change]

You can only argue the facts.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, there's a snowstorm here in. It's still.

[Monet x Change]

I thought it was done.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, the storm is done, but the effects are still here.

[Monet x Change]

Did y' all have the show yesterday? It was Monday, so I got a dark on Mondays. Right. I gotta have the show today.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

100%. I'll be there kicking and singing and

[Monet x Change]

dancing, kicking and singing all over that stage. You have one more month left.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have, yeah. Four. Four weeks. Yeah.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, my God. Are you sad? Are you. So you're, like, halfway through your run. Are you sad? Are you gonna be leaving soon?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'm not sad. I mean, I'm happy that I did this. And. No, I don't wanna get too sad when things end. I don't remember the last time something ended and I was sad, to be honest. I'm usually like, well, I'm glad that I had that experience, but I'm rarely ever, like. I mean, probably when I was, like, really young, when I was, like, a kid, and I'd be, like, really sad that, like, summer camp was coming to an. I never did summer camp, but I

[Monet x Change]

think we talked about this before. We never did summer camp before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do what?

[Monet x Change]

So we talked about this before. We said that you never did summer camp. I was like, now you did summer camp.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, but I did, like, day camp for summer. Like, I did summer theater, which felt like day camp, basically. I mean, Monday through Friday, I would go to the theater and be there for, like, six to eight hours, which felt like day camp. And I would also. I've also done, like, a Bible camp, which is also day camp.

[Monet x Change]

Bible camp. What the. Are you. You know, the. Are you doing Bible camp? Are you just studying the Bible?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. You learn about Jesus in the Bible work.

[Monet x Change]

You know, I love when I want TikTok. And I see these people who, like, they're ex religious folk, but, like, ex. Like, they went to, like, these people who went to this one woman. She's a white lady with red hair and these other. The other. So she's a white woman with red hair. And she's often debating Christians about the Bible, but she's super informed because I think she was. She's some type of ex. She wasn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's an ex.

[Monet x Change]

Maybe not ex Christian is the wrong term, but she doesn't go take part of organized religion anymore and she is. And she went to seminary. So she fucking knows the Bible. And she be glutton these it be. So she be letting them have it because she's like for every point they think they have, she's like, but actually in Leviticus, in Leviticus 3, 1 da da da. And she just knows the Bible like the back of her head.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And it's.

[Monet x Change]

It's so satisfying to watch her debunk all the things that these like crazy evangelists are trying to say on TikTok. It's. It's so satisfying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean I used to want to get into seminary studies and learn more about the Bible specifically like the original versions of the Bible for the purpose of debunking. But I don't really have the. My desire is not strong enough to

[Monet x Change]

like you wanted to go to seminary just so you could debate people about the Bible?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, just so I can learn more about it especially, but so I can deconstruct it. Yeah. For that purpose. Yeah.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

To get back to our topic on cool, what I realized is I don't think that in my adulthood I don't find people who are the standard of cool to be very cool. I actually find it. There's something really cringey to me about being cool these days, if I'm being fully honest. Like there's something about being and seeming and appearing cool that seems pretty, try hard to me. Like aura farming. You know what I mean?

[Monet x Change]

What the fuck is aura farming?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Aura farming is like when you're like basically trying to be really cool. It's basically trying to be nonchalant, trying to be chill, trying to make like, feel like nothing matters, everything's cool. And I actually find that really cringy. Something about it just doesn't. Something about it is really. And I actually, what I think is more interesting is people who are like, so themselves. Even if other people find it cringy or unappealing or not interesting, I actually find that really, really interesting. I find those people to be cool to me.

[Monet x Change]

Like, can you give me an example?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, Jinx Monsoon is someone. Jinx Monsoon is someone who is so herself. Ocean Kelly is someone who's so himself. I find that they. Despite, like, I think I look back at those old pictures of Ocean Kelly, like going to the, going to the club with his wigs on and his blue makeup, and it may have not looked very cool in the moment, but something about it just to me is way more cool than fitting into a standard. I've also never really been one to really follow trends, to be honest. So I just don't find. I don't find following trends to be cool at all, to be honest.

[Monet x Change]

I think someone who is effortlessly cool and just their disposition, how they just their POV of the world, how they worry about the world is just effortless. And that to me is cool. I think it's Naomi Small.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who? Naomi Smalls.

[Monet x Change]

Yes. Amy Smalls has an air like she's just doing her own thing. She's not trying to be cool, she's just existing. She likes her little weird OCD habits about getting prepared and stuff. And I think she just, she. She gives off an air of just cool, but it's not, it's not trying to be. She's just literally just existing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I, I find, I, I find That I like that she's trying to be.

[Monet x Change]

I don't know. I don't think she is, though. But I'm.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't. No, I don't think. I don't. I don't see Naomi as someone who's trying to be cool. But I also sometimes find people who like what they like and go hard for it to be cool as well. Like, for example, someone like. I'm thinking Brendan Lee Mulligan, like, Brennan Lee Mulligan, likes to think that he likes. They're really nerdy. But I actually find it really cool and charming how much he loves dungeons and drag queens and how much he loves improvisation and how much he loves, like, those kind of things. I actually find it really interesting, and I think that's really charming.

[Monet x Change]

See, the thing about Brennan Lee Mulligan, to me, the thing that makes him cool to me is his is how smart he is. Like, I've watched. Seen a bunch of podcasts that he's done. Not centered around dd, just whatever. And he's such a knowledgeable person, and I find that to be very cool and attractive in someone when, like, no matter what topic is he's talking about in these podcasts, he has this, like, wealth of knowledge of him. I'm like, how do you know so much about everything? I think that. I think I find that to be really, really attractive.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But, you know, I find really uncool wanting to be liked. I find. I find wanting to be liked really cringy. Something about it is just gross. It gives me the ick. When someone wants to be liked. When someone wants.

[Monet x Change]

Which is so interesting because that. That's the whole Jinx's whole thing. She's so. She's so neurotic, and she wants everyone to like her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think that's a different thing. Jinx doesn't want to upset people.

[Monet x Change]

No, Jinx wants. We've literally. Literally on All Stars, and we have a whole thing on episode.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She talks about, oh, I'm stretching my toes. You don't mind.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, it's no shade. It sounded like a little fart.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, no, I moved a box. There's a. There's a box. Crazy. No, I have a box here, and I just moved the box to my foot.

[Monet x Change]

Is it a box?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I farted.

[Monet x Change]

That's okay. I farted on camera several times.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I farted. You caught me. It was a fart.

[Monet x Change]

Yeah, we do a whole thing. Also, I started talking about her thinking about wanting to be liked, which, again, but I Think that it's not like she acknowledges it. It's not just like wanting to. But it's not a wanting to be liked to be cool. It's just wanting to like. It's like a thing about, like, people pleasing and just never wanting to upset people. And so it's not coming from a. I just want everyone to like me because I want to be the. The. The most liked person. It's just I don't want to offend people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do find people pleasers to be really annoying sometimes. I can still like you as a people pleaser, but I do find people pleasers to be. And also to all the people pleasers out there, I'm not trying to, like, give you a complex, but like, I don't want to make you feel weird, but your people pleasing makes people not pleased. Like, I'm telling you, your people pleasing is not pleasing. It's really not. It's actually. It can be really irritating and upsetting and very unpleasant. You ever been around a people pleasing? You're just like, so unpleasant you feel unpleased around them.

[Monet x Change]

I think Marty's a good combo of people pleaser and wanting to be liked.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You didn't answer my question.

[Monet x Change]

Worried about what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You weren't even listening to my question. This is crazy.

[Monet x Change]

You were saying, have I? Have I? You were saying, like, have I been around a people pleaser?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Oh, my God. You don't listen to me when I talk.

[Monet x Change]

I do listen to you when you talk.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You weren't listening. You just act like I didn't ask the questions and you just kept going. What I said was, have you ever been around a person who's a people pleaser and found that to be very unpleasant?

[Monet x Change]

Okay, so see, my brain made a connection of. I heard that question. Yes. And I think that person for me is Marigold Cummings. I want to say he's a combo of that. To me, though. Like, he's a fine line of that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why is they them?

[Monet x Change]

Oh, they them, they. They're a combination of that. But also Marty has a level of charm that offsets it. So it kind of like brings you back to neutral, if that makes sense.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The other day, someone came backstage with a friend. Like, a friend of mine came backstage. Do you agree with that? A friend? What? Do you agree with that about Marty? I find Marty overwhelmingly charming and kind of annoying. But I told her that, like, girl, you're kind of annoying. But for the most part, I find Marty overwhelmingly charming because of the neuroses. You know what I mean? Um, but like, an example of a time that I found someone's people pleasing to be really irritating. The other day, a friend brought a friend backstage and they were like, can you sign this playbill? I said, of course, I would love to. And then I was like, oh, shit, I don't have a Sharpie. And they were like, I'll get one. And then I said, oh, actually I have one right here. They're like, no, I'll go get one. And I was like, I have it here. Like, I have the Sharpie here. But like, I don't want to inconvenience you. I'll just go get one. And I was like, the Sharpie's on my person. Like, I have.

[Monet x Change]

Well, that's weird.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's in my. They're like, I don't want to, like, I don't want you to have to, like, dig through your bag and get your Sharpie. I'll just go get one. And I was like, this is driving me crazy. Just let me just sign the playbill.

[Monet x Change]

That's not a normal interaction, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't say it was normal. I said it was annoying.

[Monet x Change]

I know I didn't say you did. I'm just. I'm just speaking out loud. I'm saying, like, that's not a normal interaction. Like, Like, I think in any other instance, if. If the options are, we're right here, the Sharpie is here, or I can go inside and get one. Most people would be like, okay, we'll just use the one here. Like, that interaction seems like, like an. Like an outlier. Like something that does. That's not typical. This person must have. That's like a clinical, people pleasing situation. Like, or like, I don't want to disrupt you situation.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not here to diagnose anyone, but it was unpleasant. And it's also like the time I'd be like, oh, I'll just give you a ride home. I'm headed that way. And they'll be like, no. And I'd be like, it's not an issue. I don't mind doing it. I actually like driving people around. And it's literally on the way. It is not an inconvenience at all. And the more they started bucking against that, I'm like, I am now annoyed.

[Monet x Change]

See, that's twofold. Sometimes I'm like, I don't wanna ride with you, though. I think this has happened to me before. And I'm like, it's not about being in your way or it's not being on your way. I don't want to ride in the car with anyone. I want to be on my phone and talk to someone else on my ride back. Or I just. So I think when. Sometimes people offer that, and I'm like, that's very kind, but I'm not interested in riding with you. I want to get on the phone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

People, please. I don't mind saying that. Like, I remember one time when I first met Mohart years ago. I was in some. She actually had nothing to do with the story. I just remember that I met her this day, her and Widow Von Duke. And I was backstage and this guy tried to grab my bag and take it to the car. Said, no, it's no worries. I'll actually. I'll take it back myself. He goes, no, I don't mind. I said, I don't. And I said, I gotta be clear. I don't want you to take my bag. I prefer to bring my own bags. The stuff in here is quite delicate. It's organized in a certain way. I've seen people toss my shit around. I do not want you to touch my bags. Please don't touch my bags. Anyway, that's. At the whole remote. They were like, oh.

[Monet x Change]

And I was like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But it was like three back and forth and me being like, I would prefer you not touch my bags. I would, like, like, he was not getting the message. And I was like. And I didn't say no to. I said, what. Actually, what I first said was, I prefer to carry my own bags, is what I said. I prefer to carry my own bags. And he was like, no, it's okay. I really don't mind. I said, I understand you don't mind. I just prefer to be in charge of my own bags. And. But I. But I am quite comfortable saying things that make people feel uncomfortable. It doesn't bother me at all.

[Monet x Change]

Well, I think with the. What. I think the thing that's different with the ride thing is that, like, I don't owe you an explanation why I don't want to ride. Like, we're going to a place, you know, I can take you. I'm going that way. No, it's cool. I'm just going to call an Uber. No, like, for real, like, it's cool. Let me just take you. I'm going that way. Like, no, I'm going to take an Uber. Like, I don't owe you an explanation of why I don't want you to take me. I'm like, no, because maybe. Maybe I'm going to give him a hookup maybe I'm gonna go buy some drugs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The difference between I don't want to inconvenience you and actually I prefer to ride an Uber. In that explanation, me saying like, oh, I actually, I actually like taking Uber, I prefer to ride alone or blah blah blah. It's not like I'm not going because I'm going to get my back broken in 10 minutes. I don't think that's being like, actually I prefer to take, I like taking Ubers. I like to do this, I like to do that. I don't think saying, I don't think saying, I think when you say I don't want to inconvenience you, what you're doing is you're giving a reason why. And the reason becomes I don't want to inconvenience you.

[Monet x Change]

Yeah, I think that's different. But I think we should normalize. If someone says I want to do it, like, no, it's okay, I don't want it. I think we should normalize that being it, like does it need to be. I prefer. It doesn't need to be a. I think let's just say if someone says like, no, it's okay, I don't want to like then move on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, yeah, to an extent. I mean, I think we're having two different conversations here. Cause that's not the conversation I'm having. It's like whenever I like, for example, if we go out somewhere and you keep trying to pay famously, I don't argue, you can pay, I don't care. I'm not gonna argue with you about paying for the food. I'm telling you right now, you won't even get a back and forth out of me. If you offer, you're paying, I'll do one.

[Monet x Change]

Like let's say like we all go out to dinner and like, and like you pull out your car. I'll be like, oh no, we could split it. And then you say no, no, no, I'll pay. I'm like, okay, cool, but I wanna like give the offer. Just like you said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You give one though. That's not even one.

[Monet x Change]

I'm like, no, no, we can split it. And then, then the person says no, no, no, I'll pay for it. I'm like, okay, cool. Like cuz like your one is the first one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Your one is the first one.

[Monet x Change]

Yeah. The person pulls a card, be like, I'll pay for it. I'm like, no, no, no, let me do it or we'll split it. I'm like, no, no, no, really, I don't mind. I'll pay for it. Me, Me this time. You, you get us next time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cool. Yeah, I guess if someone offers, I just let them pay for. If they offer the first time, I don't go, no, no, no. I just go. Okay, well then I'm assuming if you're offering, you want to do it now.

[Monet x Change]

Do you wait? Like, let's say the bill comes. Like, do you wait to see, like, as soon as the bill comes, are you pulling out your card or like, the bill comes. Sometimes the bill comes down. The bill comes, and we've been sitting there for like 25 minutes and no one has pulled out a card. I'm like, I'm just gonna pay. You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When the bill comes, I assume we're paying for our own food. Yeah, like, I assume you're paying for what you ate and what you drank, and I'm paying for what I ate when I drank. So usually when the bill comes, I will pick it up and I'll. I'll be like, I'm gonna put in this much and then I'll pass the bill around. I mean, it kind of largely depends on who I'm with. But if I'm with like a friend and I will offer to pay, I will offer to pay for people's food, but if they give any protest, then I just go, okay. Like, I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't overly offer.

[Monet x Change]

Yeah, see, I'm. Yeah, I'm typical. Well, I know it's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's been.

[Monet x Change]

I'm typically like, just split it equally among everyone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't like that.

[Monet x Change]

I know, but sometimes it just makes it like everyone got. Got roughly. If everyone got roughly an entree appetizer or like, okay, here's the thing. Let's say we shared appetizers like it was eight of. It was five of us and we shared two appetizers and everyone got an entree. It's just easier to just split it evenly around everyone that would, like, unless you get. My entree is $22. My entree is $25. So, like, we're splitting hairs. It was just say again?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, my entree was $12. Now what?

[Monet x Change]

Their entree is not $12. That's not a thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They could be a twelve dollar entree, I mean, depending on. I guess not in the fancy places

[Monet x Change]

you eat, girl, in 2026, if you go to anyone getting a $12 entree, bitch, you can't get a $12 entree. At fucking. At fucking McDonald's. McDonald's. The entrees are 20 or $19.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now, that McDonald's entree is not $19.

[Monet x Change]

Girl, look up a girl. Go get. Look at a Big Mac value meal. It's more than 15.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And a McDonald's entree is not. There's no way a McDonald's entree is $19. I'm looking at Uber Eats right now. I'm not eating at McDonald's in a really long time. And McDonald's number one combo, the extra value meal, it is 14.59 for a big Mac.

[Monet x Change]

That's crazy, bitch. I remember I used to get a Big Mac at getting off the. Getting off the cheeseburger. $7.59.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you're old, so.

[Monet x Change]

I am older.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm. Oh, my God.

[Monet x Change]

I'm in my late mid-30s.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I. I mean, I. I like to. I mean, when I was in College, a number one at Chick Fil A was $5.13.

[Monet x Change]

That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

$5.13.

[Monet x Change]

You know, we're gonna be. I was saying this to Patty the other day. We're gonna be these.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know.

[Monet x Change]

You know, like my grandma would say. Oh, and I used to get a newspaper. Used to be a nickel. We're gonna be those people. Like, it's gonna be like when I get a new.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Gonna be.

[Monet x Change]

We are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, when I was a kid, toothpaste used to be a dollar. It was five. Thirteen with tax.

[Monet x Change]

That's crazy. Yeah, it was. It used to be 759 with tax, so it was probably like seven bucks or whatever. I don't fucking know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I vividly remember, one, cause I used to work at Chick Fil A. And two, because my roommate borrowed money that he never paid me back.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, yeah, Jaime.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, his name was Malik. Malik.

[Monet x Change]

Malik. Was this the bank robber?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The very one.

[Monet x Change]

Would you ever write a memoir?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Actually, it was Morgan. It was Morgan Chigawa. Actually, Morgan. I think Malik is still alive. Morgan's dead now. Yeah, Morgan's dead. He got killed by the cops.

[Monet x Change]

Rest in peace to that man.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Rest in peace to this man, honey. And I never got my fucking money back.

[Monet x Change]

And you never will.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I never will. I'm so irritated. You know, the real estate company I used to work for still owes me 500 bucks. I'll never forget it.

[Monet x Change]

Well, get it from them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wrap it around. I don't even think they're around anymore. I went back to work one day. The whole. The office was closed.

[Monet x Change]

Yeah, girl, that's. Yeah. Companies are Wild. You know. You know the company I bought my solar from originally, they foreclosed. To quote Lady Buddy in that Bianca Bianca podcast. Yeah. She's the mother of a house that's foreclosed. The company's foreclosed. And now this new company wanted to sell me more solar. And I'm like, how I know y' all not gonna shut it down? Cause solar companies. I don't know the data on this. Solar companies close down. They bankrupt so often.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that a thing? Is this based on the one or is it something you, like, looked up?

[Monet x Change]

No, I looked it up. Like these solar companies are constantly going in and out of business. And like, bigger companies, like, they sell your solar because I'm still paying someone for this fucking shit. They sell it to another company and it's just like this weird. It's wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I rented an apartment to Honey Davenport and went to. What's her name, what's that queen's name?

[Monet x Change]

Widow Von Du.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Asian Queen. Pattaya Hart.

[Monet x Change]

Pattaya Hart. See, I was close.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Pattaya Hart. And. And. And I never got my. And I never got my commission for renting those two queens of those apartments ever.

[Monet x Change]

So you. I think you should hit up Honey Davenport until he'll run you a commission.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, the commission was paid. It just wasn't paid to me.

[Monet x Change]

Oh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because when I came back the next day to get my check, the company was closed.

[Monet x Change]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which is. I'm still mad about that

[Monet x Change]

girl. You gotta let it go. You gotta let it go.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I gotta let it go. Then you give me 500 bucks. Then give me 500 bucks. Then you let it go.

[Monet x Change]

No, you have to let it go, Bob. You cannot. You gotta hold on to that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Give me 500 bucks and let it go.

[Monet x Change]

You can't hold on to that. For how long? How long are you going to hold on to this?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My question is, if you give me 500 bucks, how long does it take you to let it go?

[Monet x Change]

I was a part of this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but I'm saying. But If I take 500 bucks and you never pay it back, you got to let it go.

[Monet x Change]

Okay, first of all, I have let go things that you've done to me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ditto, kiddo.

[Monet x Change]

Now what I didn't see, I didn't say you did it this thing to come say me. I didn't say you haven't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But now what is the answer to that question? Answer that question now what?

[Monet x Change]

Why are you so combative today?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now give me the money and let it go immediately. Then moving Right now, my venmo is ob the drag queen venmo me right now. 500 bucks.

[Monet x Change]

OK. Sent.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There it is. Someone as you hit sent. Someone literally just sent me a picture on Grindr, like, right where you said sent it.

[Monet x Change]

Like, literally. Girl, that's what. That's why I text you now, because that's the only way you answer y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All.

[Monet x Change]

Bob, you know, let me not. Let's. Let's not go even go down that road.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You literally don't even have anything. You said. You literally started going, bob, you don't even have anything.

[Monet x Change]

No, it's calling you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then go down where the road is. Go down the road.

[Monet x Change]

A week ago, we were on the phone, but I was like, you know, Monet, I'm here in New York. The phone works both ways. I was like, noted. Heard the next. I spend the next two days calling you twice a day for each day. After that, no more time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

At what time?

[Monet x Change]

What time? I don't remember what fucking time you

[Bob the Drag Queen]

think I might have been on stage?

[Monet x Change]

No. Hmm.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You think you'd be able to. Eight shows a week, and I couldn't possibly be at the theater getting ready.

[Monet x Change]

I'm being conscious of your time, Mary.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you? Cause, you know, we have call logs. You can actually tell us the time right now. You have your phone right in front. You can literally tell us the exact times. Yeah. Take a deep breath and form your lie and share screenshots. Cause we know you lie. Okay, we do know you lie. You lied on this podcast already.

[Monet x Change]

I called you at 10:42am on 2:15. Then I called you again at 1:42.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What was. What day was that?

[Monet x Change]

2:15. Whatever the 215 is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, slow down. The first one was what day?

[Monet x Change]

2:15.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

2:15.

[Monet x Change]

No, no, no, no. The date. The date is 2:15. At 10:42am the date is 2:15.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On a Sunday. When I'm. When I'm in the show. Continue.

[Monet x Change]

Okay, no. 1:42 is what time in East coast time?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

1:42 is 3 is 4. I'm on stage, bitch.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, bitch, you know how to do math. What's 10 plus three? Nigga, that's one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, you said that. I'm on money. I'm. It's a matinee on Sundays, you loser.

[Monet x Change]

And your matinee starts at 2 o', clock, you fucking cunt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you get ready for 18 minutes

[Monet x Change]

before you had to go on stage.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You think, Monet, I'm using that time to get prepared. So what's your next one? Prepared for what? I'm doing my makeup, I'm getting dressed, I'm warming up my voice.

[Monet x Change]

I know you had a man. I was trying to give you one last well wish before your show. Then I called you again. You didn't answer the phone. I was like, okay, maybe he'll call me after the show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When was that one?

[Monet x Change]

The ones at 1:43 my time, which is 4:43 your time. The next show don't start until on that same day, 2:15.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So is this what time my time?

[Monet x Change]

1:43, which would be 4:43 your time, which you off the shade?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm at the stage door. Do you think I get to the theater at 2 and I leave at 3? What do you think happens here anyway? Quickly?

[Monet x Change]

Do you think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think the show starts at 2? When I get there at 1:20, you

[Monet x Change]

be over there bullshitting. That's what you be fucking doing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The show is over two and a half hours long. And then I have to get undressed and then I have to do the stage door because I actually care about my fans. Also, I know at your there's reviews on Reddit right now about the high heels, Bad needs meet and greets.

[Monet x Change]

There is not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay?

[Monet x Change]

You're so full of it. What I know you're not doing after the issue of taking off your makeup with your fucking red ass lips and your fucking eyeliner that be on for the next three days.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, Moni, I came straight from the theater to podcast. But then when I have time, I go to the shower and I use baby shampoo to wipe my face off.

[Monet x Change]

But because of the urgency, I don't

[Bob the Drag Queen]

care about our fans. I hop right on the Internet.

[Monet x Change]

You still use baby shampoo? Yo, that is. Vava's been doing this for years. Why are you using baby? Get a cleanser.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have cleansers, but I also use baby shampoo to wash my face. There's nothing wrong with using baby shampoo

[Monet x Change]

to wash your face.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Baby shampoo is great for washing your face. I use a Squalane cleanser by the Ordinary. I also use micellar water by Garnier, but in the shower, I use baby shampoo.

[Monet x Change]

First of all, call her by her full name, Garnier Fructis.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Garnier. Fructis is for hair. Oh.

[Monet x Change]

So I saw Nymphia Wind and Plastique Tiara at the Serpent's tour.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where? In la.

[Monet x Change]

In la at the Regent Theater. Joella. Joella is like the third character. She happened to be at the LA stop of the show, but she's also the Narrator of the story for the whole tour. And it was great. It was a really great show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

With the regions. I don't know. Is that a big spot?

[Monet x Change]

The region? Did you go see Alaska?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do her.

[Monet x Change]

The Gaga show? Were you there?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, well, that same venue.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What neighborhood is it in?

[Monet x Change]

It's downtown.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How big is it, you think?

[Monet x Change]

If I have the guess, girl, I'm so bad at that. I would say maybe a few. 700

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Regents Theater, la capacity. It doesn't really say on the Internet either. But it was a good show.

[Monet x Change]

It was a great show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did it sell pretty well?

[Monet x Change]

Yeah, I think it was sold out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nice. That's amazing. Congrats for them.

[Monet x Change]

Yeah, they were great. They were great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What kind of stuff did they do on the tour?

[Monet x Change]

It was very civil rivalry. Juicy. Juicy. House of House of Juicy. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet x Change]

It was hot to use a couture. Remember our first tour? It was like. It's a story. Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Remember what was the first one in Canada?

[Thrive Market Sponsor]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

With Omar and Tislarm.

[Monet x Change]

Oh my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And yeah, I'm gonna have to be the historian because you're not gonna do it. Maybe if you took the IBBS test, you'd remember these things.

[Monet x Change]

That's infamous song with Bob and the chicken.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The chicken. Oh, the chicken. The fucking chicken. Because we did it through Europe and we did it through Canada. Yes.

[Monet x Change]

Oh my God, Bob, Can I tell

[Bob the Drag Queen]

you, I forgot that we did that.

[Monet x Change]

In my mind, all we did was the one in the States with House of Juicy Couture.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I think it was a. I thought it was a really good tour too. I thought we did a good job.

[Monet x Change]

It was a great tour. We killed it. But they had like a story. It was about two serpent sisters who are fighting for the love of a man. So there's like a big opening video, then they do a duo number together.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then who plays a man?

[Monet x Change]

There wasn't a man. Like, they had like they had four dancers playing different guys. And then they talk to the audience. Then one leaves, then they.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The.

[Monet x Change]

The more video. Then Plastic is a number, Nymphi does a number. Then they do. They do four numbers actually, back to back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do they talk, like within the characters?

[Monet x Change]

No, they're just like talking. Talking to the audience. Yeah, it was a fun show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I kind of like the idea of like keeping the character thing going. Like something I kind of thought was missed back when I did work the world was that the theme was like only. It was only a visual theme. And even still it was kind of loosely visual. You know what I mean, like, I was like this, like, captain on this plane that was taking us around the world. Like, when y' all did, like, the world, the nations or not the world nations and, like, everyone's different planet. I just felt like it should have been more. I don't know, it would have been interesting if it was kind of been scripted and more on theme.

[Monet x Change]

Did you see that show? I don't remember you coming to see that show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was in that show, the Planets.

[Monet x Change]

Oh. Cause you covered for me, but we never did it together. That's the thing. We never, like, you never.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You never.

[Monet x Change]

You never came to see it. And when I was in it, I didn't see. When you were in it, like, you covered for me for like a week or something like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did one show. I did one show in Paris.

[Monet x Change]

Wait, did you. Did you do. Did you do my number? Did you do my magic to do number.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I did my own number.

[Monet x Change]

Okay, you did your Phoenix one? Yeah, yeah, with Bob wearing. Wearing little scooties?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, by that point, my feet had already healed, actually. Wait, what happened to you? Like, you.

[Monet x Change]

You rolled your ankle or something? No, you. You sprained your toe? Your pinky toe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I broke my toe jumping into a swimming pool.

[Monet x Change]

Why were you jumping? You don't even like pools. Whose fucking pool are you jumping into?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was on a cruise ship.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, right. Okay, I remember.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I remember all this. Me and Mitch were dancing at the disco party, and I jumped in the pool, and it was much more shallow than I thought it was, and I broke my toe.

[Monet x Change]

So I'm the fucking Bob the Dragon hit story.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know.

[Monet x Change]

I know your fucking lore, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bitch, I was the one who filled in all the gaps. I filled in all the gaps, bitch. To answer your question from a couple minutes ago, I would never write. I don't think. Not never. I don't think I would write a memoir because I honestly don't think I would read my memoir.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, you don't think. I mean, you have a very interesting life. You don't think there's a lot of bunch of life people want to hear?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think it's that interesting, to be honest. Uh, oh,

[Monet x Change]

you have to run that back. Cause I don't hear none of that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was saying I don't personally find it all that interesting, to be honest. Like, it's interesting enough. And everyone's like, no, but you did this thing. But like, everyone's like, no, but you tour with Madonna and like, yeah, but we didn't do anything crazy like I did my thing, she did her thing. We went home. No, but you did RuPaul's Drag Race. Yeah, I went there. I went to my room. I came back from my room. Everything I did was on camera. No, but you did this thing. I'm like, yeah, but I didn't. I'm telling you, like, Monet will tell you. I don't be doing crazy stuff like, I don't live.

[Monet x Change]

I know you, and I know a lot of your life. And I think what. I think what you're not understanding is people are not just interested in. Yeah, there wasn't like, some. You didn't get robbed at gunpoint on the Madonna bus. Then the thing. But it's not about that. It's about your experience of it. And I know hearing you recount these stories, and I've heard you talk about in several podcasts about the things that have gone on. So they don't sound interesting to you? Cause I think you've lived them, and you've told the stories so many times, you're like, oh, like, that's just whatever. But hearing you recant the stories and talk about your experiences and your feelings through them is interesting. It's not about.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I guess so. I would just never. I would just never read that book. I would never want to write a book. I wouldn't want to read. You know what I mean?

[Monet x Change]

Like, I think your memoir starts about you, literally. Also, just even this opening, the first paragraph is already interesting. Your first paragraph begins you getting the. You having. Well, how much you came to New York City with?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

$700, 500 bucks?

[Monet x Change]

500 bucks? 2,500 bucks. And the whole story about the guy kicking you out of your place, literally your first week in New York City is already an interesting opening to a book. Bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wouldn't start my book in New York City. My story is. My story would start when I'm in.

[Monet x Change]

Your memoir can start wherever you want. It can be just from New York City to now. It can start from when you were a kid.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, you don't. I know, but I'm choosing not to start mine in New York City. If I did start.

[Monet x Change]

You don't want to do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't want to. Do you care? My memoir would probably start with my first memory,

[Monet x Change]

which is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was. I was in preschool, and we got back from Christmas break, and the teacher said, it's the 90s. Do you guys know what a decade is?

[Monet x Change]

Right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we were like, no. And she's like, a decade is 10 years. And I was like, and I just remember being like. I remember being like. I remember thinking I'm conscious, but I remember thinking like. Like, the look. Looking back, I'm like, oh, I'm online. I am now officially online. Like, I remember everything from that moment on.

[Monet x Change]

That's. That's that scene from the Matrix when. When they take that. The plug out. The plug at the back of your head, and you're like, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I remember being in preschool, being like, oh, it's the 90s. Like, I remember being like. So I don't remember any of the 90s, but I do remember the very beginning of the 80s. I mean, but I remember the very beginning of the 90s. Yeah.

[Monet x Change]

So maybe, like, your memoir is like, you can like, Slaughterhouse five it. Whereas, like, it can be. Obviously, it's a book by Kurt Vonnegut where this guy, he's, like, reliving. He is like, in. I read this in fucking. In high school, I think. So I don't remember exactly, but he's like, basically kind of time traveling and, like, reliving his story. But he's like. It's not linear. He's like, going. He's like jumping in this thing that he's going back in time, telling when he was 5. You know what I mean? So that way. To me, that's an interesting version of doing your memoir where you, like, kind of like, re. Like going all over the place and things.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where's your memoir start?

[Monet x Change]

My memoir starts.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know.

[Monet x Change]

To be honest, I haven't given a lot of thought. Maybe starting middle school. I have an idea to write a book called How I Met My Mother. And it's gonna be me and June going through therapy together. Cause honestly, there's so much about my mother I do not know that I'm interested. I don't know how she met my father. I don't know how. Like, I don't. There's so many pieces about my family. Cause, you know, I told you my family story is fucking crazy. Like how. Like that. Some pieces there. So, like, I would like to do, like, a year of therapy with her and we, like, talk about all this stuff. Cause I'm so curious. I'm, like, curious about my own, like, life and my family before I was around.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will say, you all listening? You should definitely document your parents while they're alive. Just record them. Write down what they're saying. Write down their stories. Because once they're gone, it's gone.

[Monet x Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're the only one who knows it. It's not Gonna make it to the next round. So I started recording conversations with my mom without her knowing it. Actually, before she passed away, I have, like, four recordings of conversation with my mom.

[Monet x Change]

They were kind of nutty, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow.

[Monet x Change]

Like nutty. Like, why?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, she was kind of. She was kind of losing it, so she was saying, okay. She was like, oh, I think this nurse is trying to kill me. And I was like, I don't think that's true. She's like. She just too, I don't know, nice or something. And I'd be like, well, okay, well, you wanted to be nice.

[Monet x Change]

She's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, but she. She's too nice. And I was like, well, I can have her. We can get. We can have someone else come back. She goes, no, no, it's fine. It's fine.

[Monet x Change]

Yeah, I want. There's. There's this thing, this, this. These. These cars they sell on. I've seen them on Amazon. Well, I sort of advertise on a. On a Instagram thing. And I was like, let me see these on Amazon. It's basically these, like, box sets for them. And, like, in them, in the cars, they have questions to ask elders of your family. So I want to, like, buy it and go to my grandmother and, like, sit down and, like, her answer some of these questions about, like, they're really pointing interesting questions to, like, talking with their family about.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You should record that. You should record it at least on audio. I'm telling you. Get your elder loved ones on video if you can. Yeah, I will bring it to the studio. You know what? I'll lend you the space. Bring grandma to the studio. You have to pay the technicians, obviously.

[Monet x Change]

No, you pay the technicians.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm good on that one.

[Monet x Change]

How much do I have to do for you? So you can do anything? Try to do something for me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't want to do anything for you. I like the way it is now, where you do everything and I reap the benefits. And you seem like it too, for. It's working for, like, 15 years, so let's just get it. It's been working for, like, 15 years. Let's just keep it that way.

[Monet x Change]

You know, to be honest, that sounds about right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Earlier. You said earlier you got to get over it at some point.

[Monet x Change]

At some point. But I. I choose when that point is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't. I don't like when you do this looks really cringy. Like, what the are you doing? Like, what the is that?

[Monet x Change]

I'm balancing my, My. My heels and my tongue.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Look, we gotta wrap it up. This is crazy. Wrap it up. Wrap it up. Jacob, hit the.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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