The One About Being Late

Summary

Sibling Rivalry — Episode: "The One About Being Late"

Released: April 12, 2023

Episode Overview

In this episode, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change dig into the loaded topic of lateness—social, cultural, and personal meanings around being “on time.” They jump from pet peeves about scheduling to a viral discourse about time being a “colonized” concept, collaborating with sharp humor and their signature rapport. Along the way, the duo veers into tangents about cartoon characters’ identities, growing up broke vs. comfortable, and their struggles as busy drag artists (and friends) trying to juggle projects, memory, and expectations.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Glasses, Eyebrows, and Drag Prep

• [01:52–06:00]
  • Bob reveals he wears glasses without lenses for video lighting reasons and wonders if viewers notice.
  • Monét walks through her eyebrow routine—microblading, filling in faded ends on camera, and how she used to shave them off for drag convenience:

    “I am a sweaty, sweaty fucking queen. And I was so sick and tired of covering my brows…After I saw myself on TV…I just shaved them off.” ([06:01])

  • They reminisce about glue, soap, and other eyebrow cover methods in their younger days.

2. Growing Up with Cartoons and Class Markers

• [06:31–13:35]
  • Debate ensues over which kids’ channels were tied to class or personality:
    • Bob’s theory:

      “If you watched Disney, you were rich. If you watched Nickelodeon, you were edgy. If you watched Cartoon Network, you were mid. PBS was for nerds.” ([06:35])

    • Monét’s retort:

      “PBS was for the broke bitches. As a broke bitch, I could tell you.”

  • They discuss cartoon characters that are “Black-coded,” like Skeeter and Patti Mayonnaise (with deep dives into color, hair, and voice).
    • Memorable moment:

      “His name should be first name Ray. Last name Sis. Because this shit is racist.” — Bob (about Michigan J. Frog) ([10:17])

3. Tanning Culture & Race

• [13:36–15:47]
  • Reflection on white people’s attitudes toward tanning, and discomfort when white friends boast about “getting as dark as” Black friends.
  • Bob:

    “More than likely, that’s probably false. I’m not…”

    • And:

    “I’m dark for a Black person. Even Black people who get darker in the summer don’t get as dark as me.” ([15:47])

4. Stress, Projects, and Drag-Busy Life

• [17:47–18:49]
  • Monét admits to being stressed and somewhat distracted due to multiple upcoming (sometimes “super secret”) projects.
  • Bob references their teamwork:

    “We’ve been really doubling down…working really hard…” ([18:09])

  • Light banter about the LA River and geography ensues.

5. Estuaries and What Counts as a "River"

• [19:06–20:52]
  • Tangent about the East River in NYC not really being a river but an estuary, leading to an offhand Harry Styles joke:

    “Rivers only flow in one direction. So my question is: Harry Styles.” — Bob ([20:52])

6. Do Plants Feel Pain?

• [21:19–24:42]
  • Monét brings up scientific studies suggesting plants respond to harm. Bob is skeptical:

    “Are you high? What the fuck are you talking about?” ([21:45])

  • They conclude that, while plants may transmit electrical impulses, it’s nothing like pain as humans feel it.

7. Who “Harps” on Arguments

• [25:14–30:55]
  • Bob is puzzled why he is always accused (by listeners) of “not letting things go” in debates, when Monét also debates back.
  • Monét breaks down their personalities:

    “You like to make sure that your point is heard, and…that the exact point that you want to make is understood by all parties.” ([26:47])

  • They banter about who’s the real “harper,” referencing Nina Simone and Regina Spektor lyric trivia as a case study (“Let me be clear: you were wrong about the name of the song.” — Monét [29:43]).

8. Merch Shirt Story

• [31:04–31:55]
  • Bob’s custom shirt (by Layla McQueen) spawns a jokey dispute about who gets credit when it becomes merch.

    “At this point, you’re literally the last person to talk about this shirt being merchandise.” — Bob ([31:34])
    “I can’t roll my eyes any harder. I’m trying to.” — Monét ([31:44])

9. The “Late for the Podcast” Fiasco & Island Time

• [34:04–35:29]
  • A recent memory: Monét was in “LA traffic,” calling Bob to confirm a podcast recording for which he wasn’t prepared due to a calendar mishap.
  • They banter about “island time”:

    “Is island time a thing?” — Bob
    “No, that’s not really a thing.” — Monét

10. Being Late & If Time is a Colonized Concept

• [35:53–46:59]
  • Viral TikTok discussion is analyzed: Is “insisting on being on time” a form of upholding white supremacy?
  • Both hosts express willingness to decolonize their minds, but see punctuality more as a sign of respect.

    “I feel like being late—consistently late—is rude behavior. Is that because my mind has been colonized? I don’t know. But…if we all say we’re meeting at 7 o’clock…and you show up at 7:30, in my opinion, that’s rude…” — Bob ([36:52])
    “Maybe there is some deep-seated way that my mind is colonized with time…But I just think of it as respecting, right?” — Monét ([37:40])

  • Examples: Waiting in the cold outside NYC restaurants, missing Broadway show beginnings, and how lateness can “taint” shared experiences.
  • Bob adds:

    “I think you can want to be on time and still enjoy relationships with people and have a relationship with the earth.” ([38:33])

  • Discussion of how partners handle punctuality:
    • Monét’s partner Andy is “always late,” leading to real arguments and sometimes ultimatums:

      “If you’re not in the car by 6:15 I’m going to leave you.” — Monét ([42:22])

    • Bob and Jacob are more aligned.

11. How to Handle Lateness in Relationships

• [43:02–44:40]
  • Bob and Monét share their approaches—sometimes just going separately, sometimes leaving a partner behind.

    “I don’t want to now be a late person because of you. Now I’m late by association.” — Bob ([43:19]) “I think you should be allowed to leave him. And it shouldn’t be a thing…” — Bob ([44:14])

    • Jokes about whose mind is “decolonized.”
  • Generational perspectives surface:

    “This is such a Gen Z talking point…But this is one of the most Gen Z things I ever heard about, like time…” — Monét ([45:03])

12. Being Independent & The Dignity of the "Irish Goodbye"

• [46:59–49:10]
  • Both hosts love when friends are independent at parties and don’t pressure others about leaving early.
  • Monét was known for just vanishing in New York—doing the classic “Irish Goodbye.”

    “That shit is delicious.” — Bob ([46:59])

13. Family, Accessibility, and “Julietta” Lore

• [49:10–52:54]
  • Monét laments the trouble and cost of visiting her mom in St. Lucia; Bob appreciates the privilege of visiting his mom easily.

    “It’s very fabulous…I 10 out of 10 recommend.” — Bob ([49:29])

  • Jokes about Monét’s family housekeeper Julietta—description guessing game (her actual traits vs. Bob’s “maid-collar with florals” imagination).

    “You didn’t think I would expose you and how your family treats Julietta! Yeah, you’re shocked!” — Bob ([50:13])

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “Are you high? What the fuck are you talking about?”
  — Bob, [21:45], when Monét brings up plant pain.

• “Maybe there is some deep-seated way that my mind is colonized with time. I just think of it as respecting.”
  — Monét, [37:40]

• “If you want to identify as a river, then let it be. What is it bothering you?”
  — Monét, [21:06]

• “I think you should be allowed to leave him.”
  — Bob, [44:14], on dealing with a perpetually late partner.

• “If you’re complacent, move on. If you’re…by moving on, shut up and move on.”
  — Bob, [30:22]

• “That shit is delicious. Being able to be at a party and then having someone go, I’m going home. And no one gives them shit.”
  — Bob, [46:59]

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Suggestions for Listeners

• If you love candid conversations that blend social commentary, drag artist realness, and a sisterly roast, this is a classic Sibling Rivalry episode.
• The discussion about lateness, respect, and cultural attitudes toward time is particularly resonant for anyone who’s juggled friendship, work, and a calendar.

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Key Timestamps

• [01:52] — Glasses, eyebrows, and the realities of drag makeup
• [06:35] — Cartoons, class, and coded identities
• [13:36] — Tanning culture, race, and awkward comments from white friends
• [17:47] — Drag work stress and project overload
• [21:19] — Do plants feel pain? (plus Bob’s epic skepticism)
• [25:55] — Who “harps” more: Bob or Monét, and the art of being understood
• [31:04] — The mysterious merch shirt
• [34:04] — The great “late to the podcast” caper
• [35:53–46:59] — Does punctuality equal white supremacy? A deep-dive
• [43:02] — Handling lateness in partnerships, and when it’s OK to leave
• [46:59] — The joy of independent friends and mastering the Irish Goodbye
• [49:29] — Family visits, privilege, and the ongoing saga of Julietta

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Tone: Playful, irreverent, candid—true to the hosts’ voices. The episode is part roasting, part real-talk, and sprinkled with pop culture and nuanced reflections on identity and social behavior.

Transcript

[A]

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My name is Bob the Drag Queen.

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And I'm Monet X James.

[B]

And this is Sibling rivalry.

[A]

On today's episode, we discuss if plants can feel pain.

[B]

We talk about being late.

[A]

And we find out what made Bob say this.

[B]

Are you high? Is my question. What are you. What the fuck are you talking about? And we find out what made Monet say this again.

[A]

Maybe there is some deep seated way that that's. That my mind is colonized with time. I just. I just think of it as respecting. Right?

[B]

I have a question to the viewers. So I wear these glasses because I feel like my face doesn't have a lot of dimensions because I'm bald and I have no hair on my face, so I'm kind of giving egg. So I wear these glasses because I think it kind of gives my face a thing. But I wear glasses without lenses because I'm sitting in front of two big lights and you see these lights on my lenses, and it's kind of distracting. So when you all watch at home, do you all be like. Do you all be like, bob ain't got no lenses in them glasses? I wanna know. Are y' all like. Are y' all like this? Bitch, do not have. Or have y' all never thought about it? Anyway, comment below.

[A]

What are you doing? Well, I watch you and I don't. It doesn't look like that to me. It looks like you just have glasses that are really dope and you can't. And they're just well done.

[B]

Do you Ever take the lens out of your glasses?

[A]

I do sometimes, but I also. So, Michelle Visage, what are you doing? I'm years. I'm filling in my brows, bitch. What does it look like I'm doing?

[B]

But I've never seen you. You've never done, like, your brows in the middle of the podcast.

[A]

Well, we were. Well, I didn't know we were recording. Your sound wasn't on, so I thought.

[B]

I don't know what we were going to say. I kept saying, we're recording. Maybe you didn't hear me say we're recording.

[A]

No, your sound was up. You were muted. Jacob, unmuted.

[B]

You got it. Are these not working? Oh, they're right by the. Right by your computer. Like, right in front of you.

[A]

So with me. So years ago, Michelle Visage on Drag Race one year. Like, on, like, one of the years, I think it was All Stars, four hours on there. It was, like, in, like, a break from filming, like, while the cameras were paused. I was like, Michelle, like, on the stage, I was like, Michelle. She's like, what, Monet? I was like.

[B]

I was like.

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I was like, how are you able to wear glasses on camera all the time and they don't reflect? She's like, girl, well, you gotta go to this. You gotta go to a glass place, and they need to replace your lenses for TV lenses so you. And you can wear them, and you don't get the glare or the reflection. So I did it for a few glasses, but cheap ones that we just get. Get at, like, a place I. I have never done before. But, like, I have, like, two Gucci pairs of glasses. I've done it for.

[B]

Gucci glasses.

[A]

Gucci. See, that looks so much better. So in case y' all don't know, I mean, I've said it many times on podcast. I have. My eyes are microbladed. My. My eyebrows are microbladed. This half is microbladed, but they kind of fade over time. The last I got them done in October. Some redo for re up. So when I do it, when I'm in between, like, they're just so faded on the end. So I fill them in on camera so it doesn't look like I have, like. Because these are my real brows, and the fake ones start here, which I cover this up in drag, and I use this for my drag brow. Anyway. Hi, Bob. How you doing?

[B]

You know, I thought about microblading, but I just don't think that that's the life for me. I think I would. I think I will end up Looking crazy with my folk. Because I don't. I don't have. First of all, I don't have any part of my. There's no part of my eyebrow that is real. There's no real part. And when I. When I do grow my eyebrows, they are using them. They're very sparse. They. They. They. If you step, like, four feet back, you can't even tell that I have eyebrows. You can only tell when you. When you're, like, up in my. That I have eyebrows. And this might. No, this is like the. This is kind of like what I can grow. That's kind of like. But I've always kind of been, like, really, really, really sparse in the eyebrow department, you know?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, you've expressed that to me, and I would hate for you to get it done. And you just look back and you're like, oh, my God, why'd I do this? I have. So. I used to shave my eyebrows. Y' all watch season 10, and I think all stars four. Yeah, all stars four. My brows were shaved. I used to completely shave my brows off. Cause it just makes getting a drag easier. I am a sweaty, sweaty fucking queen. And I was so sick and tired of covering my brows. And then I would sweat so much. I didn't use pros a day. I used glucose. There are two methods to glue your eyebrows. And without fail, when I glue my

[B]

eyebrows back when I was in college, we used to use soap.

[A]

Oh, that's cool.

[B]

Yeah, in college, we used to use soap to cover our eyebrows.

[A]

So before black people had civil rights.

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Okay, I wasn't in college that long ago, but also, I would say you're right, because we are still struggling to get a lot of.

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You're about to say bitch. Yes.

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Last year. Last year.

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So, yeah. So by the time. Bob can attest to this, by the time show was done, splotchy Ona might have sweated through, melted through my eyebrows. I just shaved them off, and it just made it getting easier. And then after I saw myself on TV twice looking crazy with. Not crazy, but I look like, what's that kid? Not you. What's that kid? That cartoon with the turtle. And he's definitely coated black. You know what I'm talking about?

[B]

Vaguely. It's giving pbs. I never watched pbs.

[A]

Yeah, I was talking to someone the other day about character.

[B]

Well, PBS was for nerds. Like, if. Like, if you. Like if you were. Okay, if you were. Here's my. Here's my. My thing. Monet does not agree with this, but this is my thing. If you watch Disney, you were rich. If you watch Nickelodeon, you were edgy. If you watch Cartoon Network, you were mad. And if you watch pbs, you were a. You were a. A straight up, can't eat sugar, organic food, nerdy ass, a kid who's like, kid who's not. Like, in my mind, if you watch pbs, you weren't allowed to watch Nickelodeon because it was too edgy.

[A]

No, pbs. PBS was for the broke bitches. Like, as a broke bitch, I could tell you. Cause you say Disney was for cable. I mean, was for rich kids.

[B]

Wait, you grew up as a broke bitch?

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In St. Lucia, we had.

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On one hand, you were telling me you were comfortable, and now you're a broke bitch. I'm lost. I'm lost to where you and your family lie. Because on the one hand, you swear y' all were comfortable, and now you were a broke bitch. I'm really trying to figure out where Kevin lives.

[A]

PBS was. Was. Was public broadcasting. It was free. So that was for. Because you were.

[B]

I didn't say you were rich if you watched pbs, that you were nerdy. Because some of us. Some of it. Like, for example, when I was in middle school, my mom stopped paying for cable, but I still did watch, like, cartoons and stuff. But we just watched Saturday morning cartoons, which were still free.

[A]

So that was on abc.

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That was when Disney put stuff on their channel for broke people. So you'd watch the Disney cartoons but on Sunday, on Saturday mornings.

[A]

And I reject this notion about Cartoon Network. Cartoon Network was for the rowdy bitches. Cause Cartoon Network, no, Cartoon Network has always been salacious. Has always been like, first of all, Nickelodeon kids, y' all them freak Nick niggas, okay? Because Nickelodeon had things like Rock was Modern Life, where he worked at the Choking Chicken Factory. He was literally a phone sex operator.

[B]

That's why I said Nickelodeon was for, like, people who were, like, edgy. Nickelodeon was edgy. In Cartoon Network, you were mid. If you liked Cartoon Network, you wanted to be a bad kid so bad. You wanted to be hip so bad. But you weren't allowed to. So you were. So your version of getting wild was like watching Powerpuff Girls. Ooh, him so edgy. No, bitch. Rocco's better than life. Ren and Stimpy was straight up wild. Like you think. If you think powerful girls, edgy. Ren and Stimpy was just straight up. It would be. Ren and Stimpy would be on Adult Swim today.

[A]

Let me tell you something. Cartoon Network was for the people who are ahead of their time. Bitch him. He Was the only. Like, he was one of our first queer icons. He was the one that taught all these other motherfucking little Drag Buzz Bunny.

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Drag Buzz Bunny.

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For sure.

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Bugs Bunny is the best for the cat drag.

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Bugs Bunny was one of them shady ass cartoons that back then he was getting dragged. But now he like, oh, yeah, drag ban. But Bug buddy probably want to bag ban all the drag now. But back then he was all in his little dresses and stuff, making money off of us. That's the rules.

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Now he's a senator for Toonsville. The mayor of Toonsville.

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Did you watch the Animaniacs as a kid?

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I did, yeah. Very much so.

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That was Warner Brothers. What was Warner Brothers?

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Warner Brothers was his own. I think it was his own channel. Yeah, the wb. The wb, yeah.

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Oh, my God. Remember the Frog on Warner Brothers?

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Yeah, his name was. He was low key racist. He was very. Talk about black coated. His name was. Oh, wait, no, the Frog had a name. His name was Franklin.

[A]

Was the Turtle Franklin?

[B]

No, the Frog. Okay, I'm going to Google the frog name, but I want to know it before I.

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We definitely talk about this before. They're going to be like, Bahama Monet. Can't we talk about that before? Yeah, I can't remember.

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We definitely. Michigan J. Frog.

[A]

Michigan J. Frog?

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Yeah. Michigan J. Frog was definitely. That was a. That was. That character was. Even as a kid, I was like, this is racist. This is Ray. First name. His name should be first name Ray. Last name Sis. Because this shit is racist.

[A]

What are some other black coated characters like? Frankly, Arthur was definitely black. Well, Skeeter, we talk about this all the time. We don't agree on this.

[B]

Skeeter's black. What is he then?

[A]

No, no, no, no. We were talking about, like, yes, we are both of her in Skeeter. I'm talking about all of them because I think Patti Mayonnaise. I did not think she was black. You think she's black, right?

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She's black. Patti Mayonnaise is. It's like canonically. She's canonically black. So this is.

[A]

I don't think Patty.

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It's not a matter of opinion. Patti Mayonnaise is. Cut. Let me Pat, is Patty Mayonnaise black? It already pops up. And to answer the question,

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I mean, let me do my own research to y'. All. Cause y', all, look, that's how you know. That's how you know Bobby, he's like,

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no, no, there's multiple. That's. First of all, first of all, Monet, you know, I would not lie. There's this weird sentiment on the podcast, which I want to reject, that I always say when I'm wrong. There are so many clues of me saying, when you're right, you're right. I always say when I'm wrong. I will. I do not everyone lies a little bit, but I do not lie. Anyway, in the original Nickelodeon series, Patty has dark skin and wavy blonde hair. And the Disney version, Patty looks the same. However, she has slightly lighter skin and her previous wavy blonde hair is now straight and styled to the pixie cut she's known for in blue hoops. So they don't. I feel like there was a whole.

[A]

She was tan.

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They say.

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They say. Look, my identification with this character caught some of my peers by surprise, especially since from her vantage point, Patimanes was a. Was a. Was a tan white girl.

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Wait, I don't think she's. It's not like you just changed the.

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I just read it as I said.

[B]

Was it. You said. You said Patti was a tan white girl.

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Patti Mayonnaise was a tan white girl.

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Shady. I feel like Patti Mayonnaise was black and was. Has a black mom and a white dad or some shit like this.

[A]

No, I think Patti Mayonnaise was one of these white girls that live in Malibu. She goes surfing every weekend with her family. She is tan, dungeon down with her blonde hair, but she's white. That's what I thought. Got Patti Mayonnaise ass.

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Patti is. All right, y' all comment below. Is Patti Mayonnaise black or is she white? Patti Mayonnaise is just okay on Reddit. Okay, this is Reddit. So we can't use this as a actual point of reference because it's Reddit. Oh, and also it has like 9 comments. So here's the interesting take. It says, honestly, I don't think race exists on the show. It is never mentioned and no amount of searching will reveal anything about anyone's ethnicity. That is a pretty valid.

[A]

But we can agree that Skeeter is black.

[B]

Skeeter's black coated, right?

[A]

That's how he'd be black coated.

[B]

And I think Patty Mayonnaise is literally the color of black people.

[A]

I think that Patty Mayonnaise is a tan white girl who lives at the beach. She's like, have you ever seen. Have you ever seen those? Not like tan mom aggressive, but have you ever walked around and you see a white person really tan and you're like, this is. This feels bad to watch you. This tan.

[B]

There's a lot more of it In New York and then there ever was in Georgia. Tanning, I think, is much more of a thing in, like, with the Long island girlies than it is with the. With the Southern girlies, in my experience.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

From living. Living between the two.

[A]

Yeah. Southern people. Yeah. I guess I'm trying to think, like,

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if I was new tan, but, like. But, like, that whole Jersey shore, like, laundry. What is it? Gto tan laundry is like, that's not. That's not really part of the. From what I. I mean, I'm not white from the south, but from the white people that I do knit that I knew growing up, that wasn't really part of their experience. And I didn't really start meeting white people, so I was, like, in, like, college really, but that wasn't part of it. But I was also with theater kids who weren't like gtl, you know, and

[A]

it's also the part of that when they're like, ugh, I get. I get really dark. It's just. It is this really fierce virtue for them. Like, oh, yeah, bitch. Oh, this is nothing. I get darker. Oh, I love when I get so dark. And I know there's nothing wrong with that. People can tend to do what they want. I'm talking about my experience. Hearing someone white say this to me, it feels bad. And I'm always looking, like.

[B]

I don't think eye rolling. I think what it is, is for white people, being pale is not a point of pride. I think for white people, being pale is actually a point of, like, it's not aesthetically pleasing to be pale.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

So I think the more tan they can get, the more proud they are of their ability to be tan.

[A]

And then they always sort of let you know, like, oh, yeah, well. Cause. And, like, the reason why I can get this dark is like, my grandmother's father's sister, she's half Portuguese. So, like, I. Or like, my. Like, my uncle's dad's cousin, we're like. We're like. We're like Southeast Asian. So we, like. We get really dark. I'm like, work. Good for you.

[B]

I guess I just didn't grow up with a lot of white people who were, like, really going on about their tans. I did grow up with a few white people who would say, in the summer, I get as dark as you, Which I'm like, that's more than likely not true. More than likely. That's probably false. I'm not.

[A]

I don't know if you saw. Imagine Kennedy came one summer, and she is almost as dark as you from tanning.

[B]

It would be alarming because I'm. I'm dark for a black person. I'm dark. Like, even black people who get darker, the summer don't get as dark as me. So I would be incredibly shocked if a white person was able to achieve this level of. Of. Of melanin. That would be very, very shocking.

[A]

Bob, I'm serving with these brows, aren't I? They look good.

[B]

I feel like this is how they. The short answer is yes, but I feel like this is how your eyebrows always look. I don't know that, nigga.

[A]

I don't want the short and long.

[B]

I don't want the.

[A]

I just want the short. I don't want the long.

[B]

Well, it's about what I want to give, not what you want to get.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

You can request. You can request all day long, but. Okay, after this break, I want to talk to you about something that I've been having.

[A]

I talked about something, too. I need something about something, too.

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Okay, we're back. You go first.

[A]

I'm very stressed out today. Well, not just today. Like this whole week, I'm stressed out. And you. It's just like a bunch of stuff. I don't want to say it online. Well, I'll tell you afterwards. Just like a bunch of stuff I'm like, really stressed out about.

[B]

None of it you can say online. Not even one of the things.

[A]

Just like a lot of work I have to do with, like, different projects coming, coming, coming about. And it's just really stressful.

[B]

We've been. I feel like I can. We can say that we've been really working. We've been really doubling down on bomo. Working really hard.

[A]

Yeah, that's like a layer of it. But, like, private projects about some other stuff this summer and, like, in the fall. It's just really stressful.

[B]

Super secret project. So what did you want to talk about? You said, I want to tell you something. I want to talk about something, too. You just want to say your shit out.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I want to say to you. If I seem a little like. I'm like. I'm like, just. I'm like. My brain is like, thinking about all these things, you know, it was one of those, like, this past week, like, if my. If another different person calls me about another thing of a thing that has to send a thing and send a thing. I'm gonna fucking throw my phone into the river.

[B]

Anyway, there's no rivers.

[A]

Hi.

[B]

Are there rivers in la? There is.

[A]

There is the LA River.

[B]

Wow. Are you. Is it really a river, though? Because, you know, you know, the east river isn't really a river. Isn't that wild?

[A]

It's not.

[B]

It's an estuary.

[A]

Yeah. You know. You know what? I was. You know, Selena was gonna. Her first name. She was gonna do Selena Estuaries. And we're like.

[B]

They're like, girl, are you being serious?

[A]

Dead serious. Her name is gonna be Selena estuaries.

[B]

The east river is not a river. It is an estuary. And I found that out. Or is it the West? Or is it the Hudson? Wait, which one is between Queens and Manhattan?

[A]

That's the East River.

[B]

East River. Yeah, because that's the East.

[A]

Yes, because rivers go to lakes or something like that.

[B]

No, because rivers only flow in one direction. And I used to walk over the east river every day. And then I would realize that when I was going home, the east river is flowing in a. Is literally. It has literally changed directions. And I would look down and be like, this river was flowing that way when I went to work. And now I'm coming from work, it's flowing that way. So I googled. I was like, can rivers flow in two directions? This is like, am I. Am I losing my mind? It's an estuary. It's not a river.

[A]

I think. Cause, Bob, because when you went. And we were walking this way. So it's going down this way. And when you came back this way.

[B]

No, the east river goes with the east river, goes with the tide. So the tide comes in and out through the East River. So when you. So the water goes one way and then it literally goes the other way. It wasn't my perspective, I don't think. I mean, I was also very young, I'm pretty sure. Does the east river flow both ways? It pops up. It does. Yeah, it does. Because, see. Yes. I Googled this a long time ago. The East. Thank you. I was like, I know. I'm not crazy. The east river is an estuary. It's not a river. And it flows in both directions. And I remember thinking to myself, there's no way this river is flowing both ways. This is not possible, because rivers only flow in one direction. So my question is Harry Styles.

[A]

You're obsessed.

[B]

Oh, is he from one direction? Got it. So my question is, is the LA river really a river?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Cause we be in these streets calling stuff rivers, just saying river. What else? Saying a river.

[A]

If you want to identify as a river, then let it be. What is it bothering you?

[B]

The east river doesn't want to identify as anything. It is a. People are putting this on the East River. That east river has no feelings. It does not want to identify as anything.

[A]

Well, do you. Do you believe that plants. I mean, I know they are living organisms, but do you. And people. And there are, like, some people, like, there are studies that say that plants, like, feel things. Do you. I mean, I guess if a study says it is. And that's what it is, it's not for us to decide whether we think it's true or not. But I'm like. When you, like, rip. When someone, like, cuts down a tree or does something crazy to a tree, like, they've done studies, like, the tree is, like, out. Not out, but it feels that bitch.

[B]

Are you high? What? Are you high? Is my question. What are you. What the fuck are you talking about? Are you. Did you have an edible, One of your edibles right before this? This is crazy. That is a real.

[A]

That is a real study. I've got into a whole little deep dive about it. Like, there are studies that trees feel pain.

[B]

I think that. Okay, trees. I don't. I don't think trees have nerve endings. I think what can happen, though, is trees, when you pull them or pull at them or cut them, their flow is disrupted. But I don't think that the trees don't have a nervous system, so they don't actually feel any pain.

[A]

They don't have example.

[B]

For example, like, carnivorous plants, they can get. They don't actually feel hungry, and trees don't actually feel thirsty, but they need water because I think you need nerve endings to feel hunger and, and pain. And the roots are not a nervous system. The roots of a tree are. It helps it grow. I would, I would say it's probably more likely akin to a, a, A pituit. Not pituitary. Is it pituitary? What makes your nail. What system makes your nails grow? Hold on. Body system that makes nails. That makes your nails grow. Is integumentary system. It's probably more akin to that than it would be akin to a nervous system.

[A]

So I'm gonna say this article. Yes, Plants, they don't have nerve endings or pain receptors, but they have these things in their cells called something, something, that kind of act as.

[B]

Oh, something something. Okay, go ahead, continue.

[A]

Gonna find the name for it.

[B]

I don't know. Something, something. Now you better. You shut me up with that one.

[A]

It's this, like. It's this thing that plants are still capable of generating. Yes. They have these electrical impulses that kind of act as pain receptors when they are injured or like, they're hurt. But, like, you're right, they don't feel pain. Like, you cut my arm. If I'm like, ow, that hurts. But it does create an electrical impulse in their body. In their body, in their being that kind of acts as pain, but not the way we feel pain, which is.

[B]

So are you trying to, like, like, is this study, like, trying to get people to feel bad about eating plants? Because I also don't. Like, like, you know, whenever I look at a video of a lion trying to eat a gazelle and the gazelle gets away, I feel bad for the lion because that lion has, like, a family to feed. And these people have to. These people, these animals have to eat animals or they won't live. So, yeah, the gazelle got away, but now there's some hungry little cubs.

[A]

But what about the gazelle that wants to get home to help its family, to help its little baby Zell that just got done, honey. That just came out the womb to get it some grass. Cause it can't reach a little tree.

[B]

Grass is on the ground.

[A]

I mean, little shrub. I mean, little whatever.

[B]

You know what I mean? I guess you are tired.

[A]

You better throw that phone in the.

[B]

You better throw that phone in the estuary. You better throw that phone in the estuary.

[A]

Estuary. What did you want to talk to me about?

[B]

I want to ask your opinion about something. There's two things. One, I Want to talk about the time thing later. Oh, but for right now, what I want to talk about is this. Whenever someone, like, let's say me and you are going back and forth in the podcast, which we do all the time, but we keep going back and forth, you and me, we're both going back and forth. Why does it end up being like, Bob won't let it go? I was like, but I'm not arguing by myself, Like, I'm not by myself discussing this without someone else countering their part on the other end. So why does it end up being. And by the way, you're not the one saying this. So you probably don't have the answer to this. So you probably don't have an answer to it.

[A]

I think that personality wise, I think that people who have been on this sibling rivalry journey with us for a long time, they love us. They love our podcast. I think that they see that I just had the propensity oftentimes to kind of like, just say something and like, and like. Or also, it's honestly sometimes attributed to my memory. Cause I just literally, this is no secret to me. I just have a bad memory, bitch. I cannot remember anything. So I think oftentimes, like, I might. Often times I just forget or I'll just, like, move on. Well, I think that you like to like, you like to make sure that you.

[B]

I like the way you say you. I don't like the way you say you. Can you rephrase it and say it? Say it in a way that sounds like, can you, can you redo that, please? Can you

[A]

See, this is case in point. Case in point, Bob. See, I. We'll just let that go.

[B]

Why you say I like that? Why you say I like that? Say it with less tone.

[A]

You like to make sure that your point is heard. And like, everyone is on. You say this oftentimes. I want to be very clear. I want to say this. And you want to make sure that your point is being heard so that your words are not misconstrued and that the exact point that you want to be, that you want to make is understood by all parties involved. And I'll say it. And like, if people get it, they don't. If they do, they do. They don't. They don't. And I kind of move on. But you were like, I want to say one more thing, Monet, you da, da, da. And you will go back into the subject so that you get your point across and your voice is heard.

[B]

To quote Obama, let me be clear. I Do feel like it is. But I also think that my desire to be understood and my desire to, quote, unquote, harp on things, I think is actually one of my stronger suits in life. And I think that I am also. I don't think that it makes you complacent if you don't harp on things. But I find that people who don't, who tend to really make sure that things. Their point of view is being heard in life, tend to be less complacent people in general. But I haven't done a study that's just like me noticing that about people who really want to make sure that they're. That they get their point across or that they're not being misunderstood. To quote Nina Simone. I don't know if Nina Simone wrote that, but I know she sang it.

[A]

What song is that?

[B]

Please don't let. Please Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know how much I'm Nina Simone.

[B]

I don't know whose intentions are good. Oh, Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood. You don't know that song?

[A]

No, I don't know a whole bunch of Nina Simone. I know, like, I don't know if that's a hit, but I know, like, the big ones. I would like to learn. You know, I really intended on watching the animals. The animals from the Orange Is the New Black. That song.

[B]

No, that's. That's. What's her name? What's that? Not Fleetwood Joni Mitchell? No. Who does that theme song to the animal to. I want to. I want to get it before anyone looks it up. I want to say it before we look it up. Oh, my God. Her name is Regina. Regina Spector.

[A]

Regina Spector.

[B]

Wait, Google that. Did Gina. Did Gina Spector. Regina Spector write theme song to the theme song? We're all over the place. Today's theme song to Orange is the New Body. Did I get it right?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yes. Regina Spector did that one. And the song is called the Animals. But the Animals, I believe, did the song Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood, which was later. Wait, you're talking about Orange is the New Black?

[A]

Yeah. Yes.

[B]

The song, I believe, is called you've Got Time Drag Me.

[A]

So you were wrong.

[B]

No, I was wrong about the name of the song. Yes. But I did get the. But I did get the name.

[A]

Let me be clear. You are wrong about the name of the song. I want to make sure that. I just. I just want to say this. You were wrong about the name of the song.

[B]

I agree with you. I was wrong with the name of the song.

[A]

Great.

[B]

Now, see the difference? See, that's the difference. Whereas I wasn't rebuttaling you. I was like, yeah, you're right. I was wrong. See? But I will reiterate myself. If someone's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And then I'd be like, well, but we can both agree I was right about the name of the song. I was wrong.

[A]

You see, that far. But we already established that you're so. We're just so.

[B]

But also. But I'm not arguing with myself, though. You keep talking. So if you're.

[A]

If so.

[B]

If you're complacent, move on. If you're. If you're. By moving on, shut up and move on.

[A]

I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna be like. Because you will take it back to. Okay, but I wasn't about to give a song like, we're not talking about this artist. We're talking about the song specifically. Yeah, but I just want to reiterate. I'll be very clear. I was right about the artist. Regina Spector. I was just right about the name of the song, and that is.

[B]

But if you're fine moving on, then move on. If you're fine moving on, prove it and move on. Yeah.

[A]

What is this shirt you have on you? You're. You're evoking the colors of my motocross jacket. Oh, was this a merch shirt you had? Did you sell this?

[B]

No, I'd never sold this. This is something that Layla McQueen made for me for. We're here, and you should sell out.

[A]

Buy that if it was available.

[B]

Maybe one day I will. But for now, there's only one in the world. Layla McQueen designed it.

[A]

Can we document this, y'?

[B]

All?

[A]

When this. When this shirt. When Bob starts selling this shirt, y' all better make sure y' all say, who gave him the idea to sell us a shirt?

[B]

You did not. First of all, you did not give me the idea to sell this shirt. Me and Layla have discussed this. Me and Danika have discussed this. You are literally, at this point, you're

[A]

literally the last allegedly KMD and I

[B]

have talked about this shirt. At this. As of 1229 Pacific on March 29, 2023, you're literally the last person to talk about this shirt being merchandise.

[A]

I can't roll my eyes any harder. I'm trying to. I can't roll them any harder.

[B]

Let it go, then. Let it go. Since you like letting me Go. Let it go, let it go. Move on.

[A]

Move on. So I gotta tell a funny story. So yesterday.

[B]

Move on.

[A]

Well, yesterday. Well, so like a few weeks ago we both had this to be guests on this podcast. And then I think I had a.

[B]

Let's talk about this. No, no, no, no, no, no.

[A]

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[B]

That was not.5 seconds. Jay about to gather you J.

[A]

But I know five seconds. Sorry. Five seconds.

[B]

1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Give you a Bronx gathering.

[A]

Oh my God. I do want to give a shout out to our lovely editor Jay. Who girl sometimes I was thinking the other day, bitch, we gave him because of. You know, again because Bob is busy, I'm busy with doing stuff. Bitch, we gave him watch re like Sunday morning at like 10am and we still had it to post on the Patreon that night. So shout out to Jay who edits our videos.

[B]

Also, just so you guys know, the photos not being in there is never our editor's fault. It is always me and Monet. We never look up these pictures. We never look up the pictures. We never find them. And we're the only people with access to them. So it is usually me and Monet swearing we'll get a picture. And then what it is is when because Monet and I were part of the New York City and I've seen it is like there are more pictures of us than there are of most people. So looking through pictures is insane. Insane. Especially from like Look Queen where or.

[A]

Or.

[B]

Or Saliva Tuesdays where they used to hire these photographers and then like every night there's like dozens of photos, you know.

[A]

Yeah. So we had this to do this to be guests on this podcast together like a few weeks ago, but we had to switch it for whatever reason. Scheduling. Oh no, they canceled. Cause they had a schedule thing. So then we got rebooked to do it yesterday. So. So I was doing something, running around. I see a missed call from Bob at like 2:50. Oh, I think I answered. I said, I'll call you back. Whatever. It was at like 2:55. And we had to be there at 3:30. So I'm in my car driving. There's so much fucking traffic in LA, trying to get downtown. So like 3 o' clock, I call Bob. We're talking, shooting the shit about different things, talking about blah, blah, blah, blah. No, but Bob called me. He's like, monet, is Caribbean island? Is island time a thing? And I was like, I'll call you back when I get in the car. I'll call you back. He's like, okay, call me back. So we get in the car, we resume the conversation, talking about being late about island time. I'm like, no, that's not really a thing. Da da da da. And then like about 3:18, I was like, bitch, it sounds like, where are you at? Are you not in your car? In my car for what? I was like, for the podcast. He's like, monet, what are you talking about? I was like, bob, we have a podcast at 3:30. He's like, no, Monet. Monet, no. And I was like, yes, girl.

[B]

He's like, are you doing a thing?

[A]

I was like, no, I literally in my car trying to get downtown for 3:30.

[B]

And then I guess somehow in the rescheduling, it did not make it back into my calendar, which was, I mean, which was so annoying. I hate it.

[A]

But we ended up getting there. Bob was a little late and we got there. But it was a really great podcast. I can't wait for it to come out. It was actually really fun.

[B]

That's not. That's not. But that's. But I want to talk about this time thing. So I was part of this.

[A]

I'll start really quick. The podcast was we said what we said with Ricky Thompson and Denzel Drag her, Denzel Dion.

[B]

So I was chicken. Ridiculous as I. So I was on TikTok, which we have another, what, two weeks of before Shoot you gets thrown out of the country.

[A]

Shout you.

[B]

I mean, I'm probably mispronouncing. We're probably both mispronouncing his name, quite frankly. But anyway, what happened was there's this conversation about how being on time, harping on people being on time is upholding white supremacy. And I am very open to decolonizing. I am very open to decolonizing my mind. And I'm willing to hear I will say I feel like being. I feel like being late is consistently late is rude behavior. Is that because my mind has been colonized? I don't know. But I do know that, like, if we all say we're meeting at 7:00 o' clock and the movie starts at 7:00 clock, and you show up at 8:30 or 8:00 clock or 7:15, and we were all waiting for you, I mean, I guess as long as you're not. As long as you're not preventing us from doing the thing. Like, like something about New York City restaurants in most New York City restaurants will not see you until the entire party is there. That's like a thing. New York City restaurants will not see you. Not every restaurant, but they're most. You know. You've seen this, right, Monet?

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[B]

A lot of restaurants will not see until your entire party's there. So let's say it's January. We're waiting outside, it is cold. Cause you can't, by the way, in New York City, you can't. There's no lobby to wait in. It's not like, it's not like the Applebee's in New York City. You wait outside the restaurant on the streets. So if we're waiting, if we're waiting for you to come meet us there and you're late, that's rude. We're outside in the cold because you said you were gonna meet us there at 7, it's now 7:30. In my opinion, that's rude because now I have to suffer the physical consequences of you not showing up on time.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, again, maybe there is some deep seated way that that's. That my mind is colonized with time. I just, I just think of it as respecting. Right? Like, it's just, it's just so. It is rude to keep people waiting for you. And like, if you're going to see a Broadway show and the show starts at seven, bitch, okay, you can show up late, but I'm sitting my ass down. And again, I guess that's your experience. But then as your friend who wants to experience the show with you, from the downbeat to the end of the show and you coming in halfway through the second act, I'm like, that's annoying. And now our experience watching this show together is tainted. You've tainted my experience because we're not sharing this thing together that we bought tickets to go to together. So I think again, it may be a deep seated colonizer mindset that I got going on because it's been baked into the bread. It is Monet, Kevin X Change. But I just think it's rude.

[B]

Well, there was this thing, it was, I don't quite remember the words that she was using, but there's like two ways to look at time. And one is based on people who value, like relationships and relationship to the earth. And the other one is all about, like, productivity and capitalism. And I was like, I think you can want to be on time and still enjoy relationships with people and have a relationship with the earth. Like, for example. And here's the thing. If we go to the. I want, here's something. Monet would say this about me and I'm a pretty on time person. I'm not like, I'm not like, crazy. I'm not one of those people who's like, I won't be like, where were you? But if the show starts at 7, I'm not waiting for you outside. I'm going to go, I'm going to go inside and I'm going to enjoy the show. I will not, I will not be.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

I'm not missing the first chunk of the show for you.

[A]

That's just my, that is your 49, sometimes $175 you pay for these seeds. So what I'm going. Are you gonna refund? Even if you were refunding me whatever percentage of my ticket that was, that's still annoying. That's fucking up my experience. I mean, between you and Jacob, do you guys ever have, do you guys ever have fights about time? Like going to, like going to an event on time or meeting some like a place on time?

[B]

No, me and Jacob are pretty much on the same time schedule most of the time. Every once in a while I will be. If I'm like, I hate when I'm like having, when I'm trying to get somewhere on time. But then I, I, I misplaced something at the last second and I would usually just be like, I am annoyed. And Jacob, I'll be like, Jacob knows that I'm not annoyed with him. I'm just annoyed that I can't find this one thing that I need to get out the door.

[A]

A chair. There was a chair here.

[B]

There was a chair here. So there are some times where I can't, like, one thing is, like, it doesn't happen very often. Usually, Usually I'm pretty, I'm, I'm pretty much on time usually for the most part. And Jacob, Jacob and I are pretty similar when it comes to, like, what it means to be on time. Would you agree, Jacob? We say that. Would you agree, Jacob? Yeah, I agree. Yeah. How about you and. You and Andy?

[A]

No, Andy's always late. Andy's always late. And we have had arguments about her, brag, her. I mean, she knows that. But Andy's always. He's just so great. And like all of his friends, all his family, everyone knows that Andy is the late one. This is. But which is so crazy because he's so organized when it comes to work and everything else. But like just getting to, like getting to a place on time for a thing, he just like kind of throws it on at the window.

[B]

But like, why is he late? Like, it's not like he's like dressing up really crazy. He's not doing his eyebrows. He's not like, like, he's not like trimming his beard. He's not like, his, his clothes aren't like particularly meticulous. Like, I'm not trying to be funny, but like, cold ass bitch.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

What I'm saying is when someone like, who dresses extra like someone who is

[A]

dressing like, we don't have any friends that dress.

[B]

I mean, I think Peppermint's a good thing. Cause Peppermint, when Peppermint is out on the street, she is glammed up. She's not in full drag, but she's glammed.

[A]

She's glammed. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. But like, but if you're showing up in jeans and like some. In some, you know, some workout shorts and a sweater. Yeah. I don't know why, like, why are you, why are you late? Why are you.

[A]

Because, like, late.

[B]

And also, is it shady of you to. Is it shady of you to leave him?

[A]

If you're like, see, that's where I wish, I wish we could get on this podcast because this is something that, this is something. Some contention. So like, let's do the thing at 7:00 clock and the show starts at 7. I'm like, hey, we should probably get it for 6:30. Andy will want to get there at the 6:55. And I'm like, no, I'm just going to start this.

[B]

And we got to get there. We got to park.

[A]

We got to like get our seats. Like 7665 is too late. And I'm like, I'm leaving at 6:15 so I can get to the typewriter by 6:30. And then I'm like, I'm leaving At 6:15. And I'm like, if you're not in the car by 6:1, I'm going to leave you. And then he gets there like, yes,

[B]

I will say, I will say. I will say in his defense. That is inflammatory language. Oh, 100 also comes from. Is there a way to say it that's less challenging? Is there a way to say that? That doesn't, that doesn't sound like it. That doesn't sound like an ultimatum either. Be in the car at 6:20. Are you getting left?

[A]

The ultimatum happens because it's like the fifth time we're dealing with the situation. So I'm like.

[B]

Which I agree. I'm with you on that. I'm very grateful that I do not have a partner like that. Not that you. But like, what I'm saying is I'm really glad that I'm not in a situation where I have to like, where I have to like be like, if you're not deaf. Because I, I would, I would want to leave it. My gut is like, I, I don't want to now be a late person because of you. Of you. Now I'm. Now I'm a late. Now I'm a late person too. Right Now I'm late by association.

[A]

When you're late and your partner stuff like now. Now I'm getting roped into. I am being roped into being the one that's. That's the late one too, when I'm not.

[B]

Well now sometimes there have been a few times where one of. Where either me or Jacob were running particularly late and then we were just like, I'll see you there. It doesn't happen very often, but if one of us is just really not going to meet the time crunch, the other one will just be like, I will just catch a car. I'll see you there.

[A]

No, not us. And he's like, bitch, we rolling together. We not rolling at all.

[B]

I think you should be allowed to leave him.

[A]

I know, Me too.

[B]

And it shouldn't be. And it shouldn't be a thing. But then again, maybe that's because you would not. Maybe that's because Andy has already decolonized his mind.

[A]

That's good for him because he sure helped colonize it.

[B]

Maybe Andy has already declined. Easy for him to do.

[A]

Easy for him to do.

[B]

No. But yeah, I wish I could find. I mean, I don't even know where my phone is to play this clip for you. But it really kind of drove me low key crazy because there's like a big, not a big movie. There's quite a few people on TikTok that I found having this conversation and they're just like, no, no harping on being on time is upholding white supremacy.

[A]

This is such a Gen Z. This is such a Gen Z talking point. Like, this is one of the most Gen Z things I ever heard about, like, time and again. I get it. Cause we're in a time that we are trying to decolonize a lot of behaviors that we have all helped perpetuate just by virtue of growing up in this world. And we're trying to really look at a lot of that. So I get it. But this is such a Gen Z topic. This is so much empathy.

[B]

Well, I think what really got me was when the lady was saying, like, you can't. She was saying, like, there are two kind of people, people who, like, value time, people who value relationships with their. I might be missing. That's why I want to try to find. So that I don't end up misquoting her. And I might be able to find it while we're talking, but like, people who value, you know, spending time with people and blah, blah, blah, versus being on time. And it's like, it's not about being on time. I just feel like when we're together, we can have more fun and our time will be more. Less tainted. And if we all, if we're saying like, different people value, like, respect different things and find different things disrespectful. And I think for whatever reason, for whatever, a big part of my socialization, I find showing up late disrespectful.

[A]

Yeah, I do, too. And again, that's not to say that I've never been late again. I want to say I have been late to things. I am late to things sometimes still.

[B]

Well, it depends on what you're late for. That's what I want to say. Depending. It depends on what you're late for.

[A]

Yeah. If I'm going to be. If I'm the one. If I'm the one running late to the theater or running late to meet friends outside to go hang out, I will. I will be the first one. Mom knows this, everyone. I'm like, guys, go ahead again. Because I'm very independent, I'll be like, guys, go ahead. Don't worry. I'll meet y' all there. Or I'll get there later or I'll do my thing. Like, I will always. I would never want to hinder the group or make it everyone else's problem that I can get my shit together and be on time ever. Because I would. I would. I hate that.

[B]

Can I tell y' all what slaps when you are an Independent person. And you have other independent people in your life. That shit is delicious. Being able to be at a party and then having someone go, I'm going home. And no one gives them shit. And everyone just says by that love that it is. That shit is D lit shots. I love that shit. But one who's like, I love it. No can, you know, stay, Stay. And I'm like, I told you I have stuff to do. Like, let. Release me from your clutches.

[A]

I know.

[B]

I beg of you. Allow me to be free. Free in the world, please.

[A]

That or that or the thing where. Or. Well, you.

[B]

I.

[A]

This is something I do, and this was. And I know it's not about time, but you hate when I do this. And in New York, it used to drive you crazy. It's like, monet, can you please not do that, Monet. When we would all be out, we'd all be somewhere, and I was just. I would just vanquish. I was the queen of the Irish goodbye. Like, the time would come, and I would not say goodbye to anybody, bitch. I would just. Peace on my own. Bobby would text me, like, monet, where are you? I'm like, I went home, Monet.

[B]

Well, I think that maybe there's two things. Maybe your Irish goodbye is a response to people giving you a hard time for leaving, and maybe my. Why didn't you say goodbye? Because I wouldn't give you. Maybe, like, I wouldn't give you a hard time. I would just say, buy a grocer tomorrow. So maybe that's probably what it boils down to, because I. Well, now my mom does give me a heart. My mom recently was, like, giving me the business. I'm going to visit my mom for a little bit, and she's like, oh, well, are you gonna see other people while you're here? I'm like, yeah, I will, Ma. I grew up in Atlanta, so I'm gonna see my friends. I'm gonna go see. Probably gonna go see ocean Kelly. She goes, oh, but will you spend any time with me? Yes, Mom, I'm gonna spend time with you. But I also. I would like to spend time with other people. And I don't want to feel bad about it. I do not want to feel bad about spending time with other people. I would like to spend time with other people and have it just kind of just be. Be what it is, you know?

[A]

It's so beautiful that your mom lives here. You can go see her anytime. Like, to go see my mom is like a whole task and a whole to do to get down to St. Lucia. And she wanted me to come this summer, but I can't really come this summer because, like, the summer is not already filled up with all this stuff, and I can't. It's just like a whole. It is really lovely to just hop and go see your mama. I'm very jealous of you. It's very fabulous.

[B]

You know what? I can't lie to you. It is really lovely. And this shit is solid. I 10 out of 10 recommend. Can you fly her to you?

[A]

No, because my grandmother Jacob asked. Oh, he has a mic. Because my grandmother, who is 88 years old, she's very sick and she can't fly. And so my mom can't leave St. Lucia because my grandma is not doing very well.

[B]

Also, as the prime minister of Saint Lucia, she has a lot of duties. And plus, the cell phone company would just crumble. Julietta has to be fed through the cage several times a day, so she can't just leave. Oh, my God. Bob. Yeah. You didn't think I would expose you and how your family treats julietta? Yeah, yeah, you're shocked. You're shocked.

[A]

I do like the fact that you say her name correctly. Now, that's nice.

[B]

Okay, first of all, shut up. You will not silence me the way you silence julietta. And do not try to intimidate me in the same way that you have intimidated the icon.

[A]

When I go down there, I'm really gonna bounce up with julietta and I'm gonna do a video. Y' all are going to gag. I wonder what people think julietta looks like.

[B]

I have a picture of her in my head, actually.

[A]

Can you describe what you think it is? And I'll tell you how hurt you are.

[B]

Julietta is brown skin, like, roughly your complexion. I envision her as she, like, has, like, a slight, slim looking face. So she's pretty average size. But she does have, like, a kind of a big butt. Like, she's hippie. She dresses in florals. Like, she's always wearing, like, some sort of a floral print dress. I do envision her with the maid collar on. Like, I do see her wearing the maid collar in. In yalls. Like, when she's in your house, she's wearing blue with that white maid collar. And then when she is. When she's allowed. When she goes back to servant quarters to change in the west wing that was being built when you. When you and your brother were playing around that time, she's changing back into her florals. She wears braids. She almost always has her hair in box braids. And she. When she's working, she has them pulled back. And when she leaves, they're half up, half down. She does not wear glasses, and she has freckles.

[A]

So pretty much none of her is right.

[B]

Julietta.

[A]

Julieta is my color. About brown skin. She is. She is.

[B]

I was right about that. So I was right about.

[A]

She's thick and she's hippy. Like big boobs, like a thick woman. But Julieta, she had very short hair. So she would always either have her hair out in, like, a little fro, or once she would relax it, she would stick it back and just slick back off her head, but not enough to put in a ponytail. And when she was around the house, she just wore what she wore there. Like, she'd wear either some shorts, really. Shorts down to her knee shorts, like 90s kind of shorts. And like jorts. Jord was a jort.

[B]

Jean shorts.

[A]

Yeah. She wear jorts. Or she'd wear, like, khaki shorts and like, very vibrant colors and like a loose T shirt. It was not that formal. Like, with a maid outfit and a collar. What?

[B]

That's what I envision for that's what I envision. You ask what I envision. That's what I envision also in my mind, she's like. She's just 45. She was 45. Now she's 45 when you were a kid. She's always been 45.

[A]

I can't picture what Julieta looks like older now. That would be so wild. Her daughter Carrie. Either her daughter was Carrie or Kimiko your age. I think it was Carrie. Yeah. We were the same age as kids, and she would bring her sometimes over to the house when she was working. Well, all right. Well, we just did another episode. Bob, I got you a new toy to play with Colleen.

[B]

Oh, I'll hold it. Sorry, I thought I was supposed to be the one.

[A]

You're so silly.

[C]

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