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Monet x Change
I'm Kiana. And I leveled up my business with Shopify. Once I figured out that Shopify was a thing, I never turned back. I can create a site with my eyes closed. Shopify thinks ahead of us, you know, and it thinks about the customer more than anything.
Bob the Drag Queen
Every day, I'm thinking about some other
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new business, but Shopify is doing it to me because it's so easy to use. It's like, I can't stop.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm addicted. Start your free trial@shopify.com. my name is Bob the Drag Queen,
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and I'm Monet x Change.
Bob the Drag Queen
And this is simply rivalry. On this week's episode, we discuss petty theft.
Monet x Change
We talk all about books, and we
Bob the Drag Queen
find out what made Monet say this.
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You took the words right out my pussy. And we found out what made Bob say this. Do you know how dirty I am?
Bob the Drag Queen
Macaroni, eggs, cheese.
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So, yo, Bob walks around his entire office with a Yeti mug and a vape. It's just. And now a fucking trader's robe. It's too much.
Bob the Drag Queen
You gave me this robe.
Monet x Change
Cause you're a traitor. Do you want to talk about anything that I'm wearing today?
Bob the Drag Queen
Is that what the fan gave you? Monet, Give me my shit. No Monet. Okay? A fan came up to Monet at a gig and was like, I have some gifts for you and Bob, and Monet is stealing. This is mine.
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They didn't say what was for what. So as far as I'm concerned, everything was mine, and I could choose what is yours.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, then, bitch, give me something. They say this is for you and Bob. So what do I get then?
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Maybe if you behave yourself and I'll see. Maybe if you behave yourself for the rest of this podcast, you might get this.
Bob the Drag Queen
These are my things. Give me my stuff.
Monet x Change
You might get it. Well, behave. If you behave, you'll get stuff.
Bob the Drag Queen
You can behave. My nuts, they drag across your motherfucking chin, okay?
Monet x Change
Right now, you're not getting anything. So if you want to, I'm going to get something. Fix your attitude. Or if you're getting shit, you're stealing, fix your attitude.
Bob the Drag Queen
You and your whole crew. All y' all do is theft.
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You have something there. When you and your fucking boyfriend walked into my home and literally stole my $300 vacuum, you told us we could. You stole it out of my home.
Bob the Drag Queen
You told us we could.
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Or I'm sorry, another time when you guys came and I left the ring at your home and you guys stole. Stole it and Photoshopped it into a picture. Somebody was yours.
Bob the Drag Queen
Only thing I ever stole from you was your car. I did steal your car one time.
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And my. And my robot.
Bob the Drag Queen
I did steal the robot. Yeah, I did.
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So one of us has stolen from the. I've never sold it. The only thing I've ever sold it for you was one time I found $100 in your old apartment on Amsterdam, and I didn't know if it was mine or yours. I thought. I assumed it was mine.
Bob the Drag Queen
What do you mean, assumed? You found. You don't again. You don't buy money in my home. You steal money from my home.
Monet x Change
No, because I was unpacking my drag and I think it was mine.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't ever tip $200.
Monet x Change
Okay, that is not true.
Bob the Drag Queen
Anybody ever tipped you $100, honey? So you know that was mine back in the day, y'.
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All.
Bob the Drag Queen
This thing we would do when you tip the queen, this little thing. One time a guy came up to me with a hundred dollar bill. He tried to get cute, baby. I grabbed it. I'm quick. I'm quick like one of them. What's one of them little crabs that be punching real fast. I grabbed it, and now me and him have a hold on it. He was like, I was kidding. I was kidding. I was kidding. And he was like, please let go of the money. Please, please let go. And I was like, I'm not letting go. This my money now, baby. We re ripped it in half. And then he's like, please give me the other half. I chewed it and swallowed it. And I said, now no one has money.
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You swallowed it?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yep.
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You know how dirty money is?
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you know how dirty I am?
Monet x Change
Yeah, you get down at the gutter dirty, honey. And what of it? No, I really. This sweater is very cute, and I. I get a lot of compliments on it. I like it a lot, actually.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, you're going to give. It's my sweater.
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No, it's mine.
Bob the Drag Queen
This.
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You can have this.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's also very cute, but I don't carry tote bags. You know, I don't carry totes because,
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you know, your book is coming out,
Bob the Drag Queen
so my book is coming out. Harriet Tubman Live in Concert.
Monet x Change
Wait, so I think so the person. Wait, is this. Do you have this picture or the person did this? Like, they made this.
Bob the Drag Queen
They made that on their own? Yeah. I mean, that is the font on my book, though.
Monet x Change
Yeah, yeah, yeah. How did you choose the font? How did you go about thinking of choosing the font?
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, they sent me a bunch of options, and then I just thought that wouldn't fit them. You know, I like playing stuff. Like, I like it to be kind of like. So I only wanted two colors. I wanted it duochromatic, and I knew that I wanted a picture of. Sorry. This is a sticker for someone to write this. This is for Raven. Simone. And it actually is. Simone. I knew that I wanted.
Monet x Change
I literally said it when we talked about the podcast.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's it. Yeah, I say it, actually, Simone. I didn't know. I knew that I wanted Harriet Tubman's hands holding the microphone. Those are actually Harriet Tubman's hands, by the way.
Monet x Change
Yo, that was. Those are my hands that we made this little Harriet Tubman post.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I wanted the microphone to coil down and wrap around, and I wanted a broken chain. So that was what I.
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Why broken chains? Why would Harriet Tubman want chains to be broken?
Bob the Drag Queen
Why would she want them to be together is the question. That's the real question. Why would Harriet Tubman. What chains? Why would Harriet be bound? Honey, you think if.
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You think. You think if. You think if.
Bob the Drag Queen
If.
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I mean, this. This might be a crazy question to ask, but, you know, I've asked crazy questions on this.
Bob the Drag Queen
I wrote a crazy book, so, I mean, it's fine.
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Like, you think if we were slaves, do you think that you would have, like. Do you think that you would have. What it is, like, what it is to, like, run away and leave and, like, try to, like, escape?
Bob the Drag Queen
I would run. Yeah. I don't know that I have what it would take to come back and grab more people. I'd be like, bitch, I'm gone.
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I know, but even. Even. But it's even scary to even try to run away. Like, you know what I mean? Like, that's. That's just scary to think about. The.
Bob the Drag Queen
Running away is obviously incredibly scary. I. I feel like I would try to run for sure. You know, I'm a runner. I'm a track star. That's a TikTok reference. You wouldn't get it because you're older than me.
Monet x Change
I know. I'm a runner. I'm a track star.
Bob the Drag Queen
You don't know that song. That's why you're mumbling. By the way. We've reached. By the way, just as a side note to you.
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What?
Bob the Drag Queen
We've reached the deadline.
Monet x Change
What's the deadline?
Bob the Drag Queen
Hands up, Mone. Hands on the. Hands in the air.
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Wait, why?
Bob the Drag Queen
Monet, just do it. Trust me.
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No, I don't trust Bob. I don't trust you. You're literally wearing a traitor's ring.
Bob the Drag Queen
What am I going to do from here? Monet. We're miles away from each other. Hold your hands up. I need to hear the Queen's.
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Wait, what was the deadline?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Three months.
Monet x Change
Okay. It's not three months onto the day, though.
Bob the Drag Queen
It is three months. It's overdue, actually. Hands up. Hands up. Do it. This is crazy.
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Rosetta Tharp. Santee Gold. Bessie Smith. Nina Simone.
Bob the Drag Queen
Just.
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Just. I know I said just on this section. Just the first name on this section. Do you know it?
Bob the Drag Queen
If I could just get.
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If I just get over this hill.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jenna Tharp. Santigo. Bessie Smith. Nina Simone. You see, it's this part. Is this.
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It was just this one name.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob. What is it? Jacob.
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Just the name.
Bob the Drag Queen
The first letter.
Jacob
It is.
Bob the Drag Queen
It starts with a B. Rosetta Tharp. Santigo. Bessie Smith.
Jacob
It is not Badu.
Bob the Drag Queen
Rosetta Tharp. Santigo. Betsy Smith. Nina Simone. What is it, Jacob?
Jacob
Bette Davis?
Bob the Drag Queen
Betty Davis? Shalon's nose?
Jacob
Nope.
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No, no, no.
Jacob
Um.
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Rosetta Tharp. Santee Gold. Bessie Smith. Nina Simone. Bette Davis.
Bob the Drag Queen
You don't know it, bitch. I'll see you in three months. I'll see you in three months. Mark your calendars, everyone. Mark your motherfucking calendars.
Monet x Change
That was good. You Bob hosted the Queerties the other day and you had, like, a beginning bit of you coming down to Traders Row. It was very cute.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. And I actually took a robe from the. From the production. They gave me two options, and I was like, I don't want to use that one. And then I did want that one. I took it and it's mine now. I guess.
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At least you do. See, you're a thief. You're a klepto.
Bob the Drag Queen
I learned from the best.
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You know, I never. I don't think I've told anyone this story. Can I tell you the story? What? So back when I first started doing dragons, I mean, I was making fine money. I don't know what it was about me. Not a fine money. Like, I wasn't like, you know, I wasn't like, down and out.
Bob the Drag Queen
This story's getting crazier.
Monet x Change
No, but I wasn't rolling in the dough. But anyway, so I was at Target, and I needed, like, makeup stuff. I needed, like, liners and stuff like that. And I went into the Target and I. And I put, um, you have the whole story, actually a gel liner, liquid liner in my bag with the intention of stealing it. And then when I go to check out Bitch the fucking SWAT team and like, circles around me at the Target thing and like, literally, as I'm going through the exit. And they're like. They're like, can you come with us, please? I was like, why?
Bob the Drag Queen
I was like, why?
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We need you to come with us, please. I was like, why? What's going on? I was like, we need you to come with us or we're gonna call the cops. And I was like, okay. But she took me to that back room. And they were like, you stol. They're like, we know that you stole. Da, da da, da, da. And I was like, no, I didn't. And they're like, yes, you did. I was like, take it out. Take it out of your belongings right now or we will call the police. And bitch, they. I took it out. They called the police. I got arrested. And they took me to. And they took me down to the station.
Bob the Drag Queen
This part you did not tell me.
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Yes, bitch. And they took me down to the thing and everything. And they were like. I had to, like a. I had to do what you call it, not truancy. What's the thing? When you had to. Restitution. Had to pay. Restitution for the. It was a whole thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
How much was it? Like $7.
Jacob
Girl.
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It was like, bitch, eyeliner, gel liner. That shit was like, $22 together.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, it was when you started drag, so. So that long ago. I assumed it was, like, 50 Cent.
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And. Yeah, it was the most embarrassing that's ever happened to me. They took me out of the Target in handcuffs. I was. It was so embarrassing, and it was, like, wild.
Bob the Drag Queen
Why would. Why would you do that?
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I don't know. I don't know. I just. I just. I don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
You don't even know the rider. Shit.
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And after that, I have never stolen anything ever again.
Bob the Drag Queen
Except all of my jokes, ideas, likeness. The literal hoodie you're wearing this very second. Yours, by the way, whoever the fan was, can you comment in the chat and let us know who was the hoodie Monae's wearing? Show them the hoodie. Mon Scoop back Sc and see it. Who was this hoodie with this picture of me, this beautiful rendering that you did or maybe commissioned or found? Who is this hoodie for? I would like to know, please? I would like to know who. Who this. Cause Monet had a picture of her. Her character from. Really cute sweater, by the way. It was. So did you cut the neck or was it already cut like that?
Monet x Change
I cut it. I always cut my necks on crew sweaters.
Bob the Drag Queen
It looks really cute. Is there. Is there a Gertrude one?
Monet x Change
Huh?
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't like what you're. I see how you play the game. I see you move. You were playing with the right one, honey. It don't gotta be house. It don't gotta be Real Housewives. Now where's. Now where's Barbara Walters?
Monet x Change
Yeah, Listen, and also, y', all, let me tell y' all something right now, okay? Y' all are doing such a good job for a long time of going to and giving us likes on. On Apple podcasts and y' all have dip Talk. We are at 9,446 ratings. We need to. I. I want to see a 10k, y'. All. I know there.
Bob the Drag Queen
We can do 12.
Monet x Change
12. Oh, yeah, 12. I mean, yeah, I would love that. That's 3,000.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, we can do that easy, light work.
Monet x Change
I know, I know. So please go on Apple podcasts and give us some ratings. Y' all don't understand.
Bob the Drag Queen
It really helps us Spotify as well. Go to Spotify as well. Podcaster. Wherever you. Wherever you listen to your podcast, we would Google reviews. Wherever you listen to your podcast. Please, please, please, please give us a review. Honey, I want to read.
Monet x Change
I was reading some of the reviews this morning. There was someone. I'm going to choose a random one to read. Uh, okay. Here we go. I don't know. I don't know. It has. It has four. Four out of five stars. I enjoy listening to the podcast and appreciate the engaging discussions of interesting guests. However, since it's Also recorded for YouTube, there are moments where it feels like the hosts forget that some of us are only listening.
Bob the Drag Queen
And we do.
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Guests aren't always introduced properly because their senior viewers can see who it is. And sometimes important voice are communicated through gestures rather than words, leaving audio listeners in the dark. A little more effort to Bob, in acknowledging the podcast. Aud, she. I added this, Bob, like, verbally to do the guests describing visual moments.
Bob the Drag Queen
I. We. We do have 16.2k reviews over on Spotify.
Monet x Change
Gang gang, gang, gang gang.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know the review. I don't know if you have to actually, like, write something in, but we have 16.2 thousand over on Spotify, which I greatly, greatly appreciate. Monday. Do you know that we have been podcasting for seven years? Our first episode came out seven years ago. That's this month.
Monet x Change
Crazy. That's crazy, Bob. That's fucking crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
And there was a short time where I was like, I don't want to do this shit no more. I never told you that. Actually, I never told you that. Yeah, I told Jake. I was like, I don't Think I want to do when. Do you remember this, Jacob?
Monet x Change
I do.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
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Tell me when.
Bob the Drag Queen
It was after one of our. One of our big disagreements, and it was at some time where the patronage was being crazy and they were acting wild. It was maybe after we had someone, like, maybe it was after Todrick or someone on the pod they didn't like, and you and I had disagreed about something, and I was just so irritated, and I was like, I don't need this. But then I said. But then I stepped back and I thought about why I started the podcast and how much joy I get whenever I get to hang out with you and see you and just be basking in the glow of your wonderful personality, even though you do are literally wearing stolen merchandise right now, by the way, before you give it to me, can you do the little cut?
Monet x Change
I don't know how to do that on a. I don't know how to do that on hoodies.
Bob the Drag Queen
It looks so cute. They cut it right here.
Monet x Change
Yeah, I wouldn't trust me to do that. I don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
I really need this hoodie from you. Okay.
Monet x Change
And I want some stuff from you. I think we can barter.
Bob the Drag Queen
There's no bartering. And you're not getting that pencil holder.
Monet x Change
I literally said, if you want this hoodie, you have to get the pencil holder.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're not getting the pencil holder.
Monet x Change
Well, then you're not getting the hood.
Bob the Drag Queen
I got the pencil holder fair and square.
Monet x Change
Okay. And I got this fair and square.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, we'll talk about after this break.
Monet x Change
I went down to Austin, Texas, and I. Or in. Yeah, Austin, Texas, and I use my. My money, my player, my miles, and I got this stuff for you. So if you want to. You're going to. You're going to have to. You're going to have to barter.
Bob the Drag Queen
Orange of the. You know what? I don't know where to put it. You don't. You don't. You get rid of a lot of clothes. I don't know where to find it. I'll just go to your closet and grab it. Know what you're doing? What are you going to do? Okay, but you going to hide it also.
Monet x Change
You come get this protein you have at this house, because I can't. I don't want to hear about you and Andy and this motherfucking pro, y'.
Bob the Drag Queen
All.
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Andy and Bob and this fucking protein. No, I didn't steal more. He said he told you his hair, and you said you're going to come by, swing by and get it. He's not Stealmore. So can y' all see I have
Bob the Drag Queen
a stolen protein here? By the way. I've never even used it. I have a. I have it in a bag over here. Never even used it. The other day my office manager was like, do you want to. I said, no. On principle we are keeping.
Monet x Change
You are ridiculous.
Bob the Drag Queen
On principle we are keeping this fucking protein powder here. Me and my nephew got this big debacle about Reese's Peanut Butter cups. Tell me if I'm the wrong y' all.
Monet x Change
I need.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is the. Am I the asshole? Moment. So I bought these Reese's peanut butter cups because I was in my. I was back in my. It's a little cold now, so I'm doing it now. But I was in my. What do you call it?
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The.
Bob the Drag Queen
The cream. My ninja creamy phase, where I make these, like, protein ice creams. So you can get, like, 40 grams of protein in a pint of ice cream. It only has, like, 200 calories in it. It's really great. And you can mix in, like, a little Reese's cup to. To, you know, give a little ba, ba boom. So I come home and I bought these Reese's cups just for this. And I put them in the fridge, and I came home the next day, I came home. I'm going to have. It's going to be great. My Reese's cups are gone. I said, camion, did you. Did you take my Reese's? I suppose. I said, jacob, did you eat these Reese's cups? Jay goes, no, I didn't eat the Reese's cups. I was like, cameron, did you. These Reese's cups? He goes, yeah, I didn't know they were yours. And I was like, what do you mean you didn't know they were. They were my.
Monet x Change
Do you buy them? He didn't know they were yours.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was like, did you buy them? I don't know who they were. I said, but, you know, they were. You know, you didn't buy them. But it wasn't like. It's not like a bag of chips or a carton of sodas or a box of soda. What do you call company Canada? It's not like that. It's not like a house. It's like. It's like individual Reese's cups. It's like, clearly not house food, in my opinion. You know what I mean? So I said, what do you mean you didn't think they were those. Those are obviously mine. Those are clearly mine. Like, you took. You stole my Reese cup.
Monet x Change
That stole the. Stole his creed. You did not steal.
Bob the Drag Queen
I didn't say. So I said, you took something that didn't belong to you. He goes, well, I didn't know. There you are. I was like, well, I am going to need these Reese's Cups replaced when I get home.
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Restitution.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I need those cuffs when I get home.
Jacob
Just. This is also. This is actually a very important, critical part of the story. They were not Reese's Pieces cups. They were the Reese's pizza wafer sticks.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, no, mine were the Reese's cups. I had the Reese's cups.
Jacob
Oh, you did?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. And I said, I need these Reese's cups replaced when I get. I need these Reese's. That's what I said to him. I said, I need these Reese's replaced when I get home from work Today. I come home from work and then Cameon has Reese's sticks in the fridge. I said, cameo, what are these? He's like, oh, you asked for the Reese's. You asked me to get you some Reese's. I said, yeah, but I asked you to give me back what you took from me. You took Reese's Cups. I want Reese's cups. These are Reese's sticks and I want some Reese's cups. He's like, well, I could just give you the best. I don't want the money, Cameo. You think. You think I need $7? I don't need the money. I need the Reese's Cup.
Monet x Change
Yeah, my Cameron looked at you. He said, well, you do look down bad.
Bob the Drag Queen
I said, I need the Reese's cups. And it was like 10 o'.
Jacob
Clock.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I said, well, Cameo, I need these before. I need these before midnight. I don't know, you gotta walk to the store, you gotta Uber eats, You gotta do something. But I'm gonna need these cups, and I'm gonna need them before. And I had a gig to go to. I said, k, I'm going to this gig. I had one more gig that night. I said I was going to do the. Not the lyric. Hyperion. So I was doing Margaret Cho's show. I was like, I need you when I get back. I need to. And we got into this. He was like, this is crazy. This is not crazy. You took something that did not belong to you. And I'm asking you to make it right. I'm asking you to give me back what you took from me. I'm not asking for anything more. I'm not asking for anything less. I just want the thing that was here that you took that you knew did not belong to you and I would like it back, please. So I left. And then me and him, it was. It was like. I have never heard. Came in. Raise his voice in my life.
Monet x Change
We were like, girl, I've still never heard Cameron raise his voice.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think you ever came in, like, speak. His voice came in. Kevin is a very, very quiet man. He's very, very calm. Very, very quiet. So he and I are going back and forth. He's like, this is. I was like, it's not crazy. I need these Reese's cups. Are we going to have some? He was like, I'm not getting them. I said, camia, not to be shady. You don't have a lot of bargaining chips. You don't have a lot of bargaining chips, honey. So I need some cups when I get back. And then when I came home, the cups were there. Do you think I went overboard?
Monet x Change
No. I think it's a valuable lesson that you taught Camion. I think that now, hopefully someone does Camion wrong and they do something. Like, he doesn't expect less than what he's owed.
Bob the Drag Queen
That was the whole point. The point was, like, if one day someone's gonna do you dirty and you deserve exactly what you want, and they don't get to decide when you are whole. You get to decide when you are whole.
Monet x Change
Yeah, I think. I think it was a valuable lesson that you read.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you read a lot of books? You know, there's a statistic that men read, like, a third of the books that women read.
Monet x Change
So I used to be a big book reader in school, but I think I lost a lot of my pizzazz for reading because I have a.
Bob the Drag Queen
Did Sister Soldier stop writing?
Monet x Change
No, because I used to have y'. All. I remember said this before. Very bad at speech impediment. Like, when I was in, like, middle school. Like. Sorry. Like elementary school. It was like. Like I could. I would like, like, that was. It was really, really, really bad. So to help me out, my mom would. I would have to sit at the table and read for hours. Miserable. I just had to read books out loud. Read books out loud so I can, like. And it. To her point, it worked. I mean, again, I still have a speech impediment, but it is not anywhere near what it was. So that kind of, like. So now I see books. I just. It's like I have ptsd. I just think about having to read out loud for hours, and I just. I can't always get into it. Now there are some books that I do fall in love, and I Can still read. But I definitely. I feel like I would have been a more impassioned reader if I didn't have to do that.
Bob the Drag Queen
But then you weren't forced to read.
Monet x Change
Yeah, but then I'll have a speech impediment, so then there'll be other things, you know.
Bob the Drag Queen
I have read several books actual, like, holding the book. I actually. The first book I ever read cover to cover was actually Mick Foley's memoir, autobiography, Blood, Tears and Sweatsocks. It's the first book I've read cover to cover. I was in high school when I read it.
Monet x Change
Mankind. Mick Foley.
Bob the Drag Queen
Is that true? That's the first book I ever read of my own accord, like, without, like, the first book I ever remember reading. The first, like, novel I read cover to cover was the Giver in seventh grade.
Monet x Change
Oh, yeah, girl. All those. All those books in school, we were
Bob the Drag Queen
all given a copy of the Giver and we had. But we had to read. So I read books like that. But Blood, Tears and Sweatsocks was the first book I ever read of my. On my own. No one asked me to. No one forced me. I was just reading it myself. And I read a lot of books. I have never read a book out loud. Monet, I don't know how you. This is, y'.
Jacob
All.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's actually. It's actually reading it out loud, like,
Monet x Change
sitting there and just reading it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I read my book for the audiobook.
Monet x Change
Oh, you mean, like. Yeah, okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
Reading a book out loud. I'm not gonna say that you went through cruel and unusual punishment, but it makes you crazy.
Monet x Change
I think so. I really think so.
Bob the Drag Queen
But, like, I. Cause when you're reading by yourself, you're just kind of reading it. You low key, like, skip over words, but still forming sentences in your brain. Because it's just how your brain works when you're reading. When I was having to read this book out loud, getting it word perfect, by the way. Cannot skip a word. Word perfect. I remember thinking to myself, I think I'm gonna go crazy. It took me about 10 hours to read this entire book word for word. And it got to a point where I was like, I don't even know what I'm saying. Like, my brain. Have you ever been driving?
Monet x Change
Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
You just look up and you're like, I'm driving?
Monet x Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, it's not. Like you're not. Cause you're still stopping at red lights, you're obeying traffic laws, but you just. It's like you come out of a brownout, and you have been driving for like 15 minutes.
Monet x Change
What the fuck is a brown out?
Bob the Drag Queen
A brown. It's not, it's not a blackout. It's kind of like you just kind of like a little fuzzy, like you just. You just kind of.
Monet x Change
Is that. Did you just make this up or is that a thing?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, it's a thing. I might be slightly using the term wrong. Let me just make sure. Let me see. What is the definition of a brown? This might be like a power outage thing. Is it a gray out? Brown out?
Monet x Change
Brown out. Stunning.
Bob the Drag Queen
Brown out meaning temporary reduction of voltage. No, that is electricity. Is it gray out? There's a term where you're like, it's not a blackout gray out.
Jacob
It actually brown. It is also brown out. Brownout. Drinking is a term that refers to a state of intoxication from alcohol consumption that causes people to have spotty memories or missing periods of time from their long term memory. Otherwise known as a fragmentary blackout.
Monet x Change
That's from drinking.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, but it feels like you're coming out of a brown out and you're like, oh my God. I have literally just been driving for like 15, 20 minutes.
Monet x Change
Right?
Bob the Drag Queen
It's kind of scary.
Monet x Change
Yeah. I mean, I don't think I've had like a brown out. Like, maybe I have. I do have the thing where I'm driving sometimes. And you kind of like, like you said, like, I'm still obeying all the traffic laws and everything, but you kind of just like, you're kind of on autopilot for like a good like 30 seconds. You're like, oh, shit.
Bob the Drag Queen
It feels dangerous.
Monet x Change
I know, but I mean, I think it's normal human behavior.
Bob the Drag Queen
But yeah, Right.
Monet x Change
So when you, when you were a kid, did you have to read a lot? Well, so you only read stuff at school and you read things that you wanted to read?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, so I was never. I was. My mom didn't force me to read anything. I never had to sit at the table and my mom never really made me do anything.
Monet x Change
I didn't want to do work.
Bob the Drag Queen
I. My mom was like, I remember one time my mom tried to force me to eat food that I didn't want to eat. And she was. And I just wouldn't do it. I was a very picky eater. And then one day my mom was like at work at Burnham Services in the accounting department. She was like, my son will not eat the food I cook. I just don't know what to do. And this lady said to her, she said, martha, is he a good kid? And she said, yeah, otherwise he's A great kid. And she was like, pick your battles. Just choose peace. And then my mom, that day, my mom came home and she just started cooking me a separate meal. I literally, my mother, if it was a meal I didn't want, she would just make me a completely separate meal.
Monet x Change
Couldn't be me. I'm like, you gonna eat these damn, these damn pork chops?
Bob the Drag Queen
What do you do when your child's just not eating?
Monet x Change
I'm sticking it down his throat.
Bob the Drag Queen
But you can't make them chew, you can't make them masticate, you can't make them swallow it. Like, what are you gonna do?
Monet x Change
I can baby bird him.
Bob the Drag Queen
You can what?
Monet x Change
Baby bird him?
Bob the Drag Queen
But you can't make them swallow it. There was a thing one time where me and my aunt went through a whole thing where she, it was my Lisa, aunt Lisa, where she made me these Idaho spud brand potatoes with sour cream on them. And I did not, I don't like, I don't like sour cream. I've never liked sour cream. And I was like, I don't want to eat this. I'm not interested in this. And I ate everything else. I just didn't eat this. And my aunt was like, you're going to eat these, these, these spuds. And I said, I'm not eating those, I'm not eating those potatoes. I don't want to. And she goes, well, you're not going to leave this table until you eat these potatoes. So. So I just slid the potatoes to the side, laid my head down, and I went to sleep at the table. I fell asleep at the table. I woke up in the morning, there was a fresh plate of potatoes right next to me. A fresh plate. She had recooked them. Everyone else had breakfast and she had for me the potatoes.
Monet x Change
Oh, no.
Bob the Drag Queen
She said, I bet you're hungry now. I said, I am, but I'm not eating that. I just refused. I said, I'm not eating it. And I didn't. I went to school hungry. I ate breakfast, lunch and breakfast and lunch at school. Came home, there was a fresh plate of potatoes on the table again. She made this three times. She probably had to go back and store, grab it again. And she was like, you can't leave this table until you eat the potatoes. So I just, at that point, what
Monet x Change
are you fighting for?
Bob the Drag Queen
I slid them to the side, I did my homework and I took a nap at the table. And then when I woke up, she was like the table. She would go, just go, go do something. She gave up. She just Gave up. I just wouldn't eat. I was like, I was going to starve to death. I was like, I'm not eating. I think it was a Friday. What I'm gonna do? Not eat all weekend.
Monet x Change
Not about doing a. A boycott.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, what do you do when your kids just like, I'm not eating that.
Monet x Change
I have a question. Are your earrings. Are you just wearing mix match ones or are they. Are they not supposed to mirror each other? Like, are you wearing two of the same side of a set?
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think they come in size, do they? They're probably just. They're probably. I don't know. Maybe it's the design.
Jacob
I don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
I have no clue. These are old earrings. I've had earrings forever.
Monet x Change
I know. Well, because yo Bob used to do this thing in New York where he'll go to the wholesale people and buy 100 pairs of the same earrings. And just. So he just swapped them out.
Bob the Drag Queen
I remember. I cannot believe you had these earrings for that long. I'm like, girl, these are not the same earrings. These are not the same earrings. I've had these earrings for years.
Monet x Change
The first book I read from COVID to cover was the coldest ones ever. So Sister soldier of my own.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you remember the opening line? I know I've read on here a few times.
Monet x Change
Yeah, Something about, he bust my big back open with his big dick. Some shit like that.
Bob the Drag Queen
Hold on. And I think they changed it since Nicole's winter ever opening.
Monet x Change
I'm gonna do the hottest summer. The hottest summer ever.
Bob the Drag Queen
Real hot, girl. Shit. What are the first lines in Cold Day ever? First line I remember reading and being like, oh, my God.
Monet x Change
I read it in high school.
Bob the Drag Queen
Now I can't find it anywhere on the Internet.
Monet x Change
Oh, no. It's busting out my mama's coochie. Something like that.
Bob the Drag Queen
It was like, Jacob, maybe you can find it and read it in your voice, Jacob. If you find it, you know, that
Jacob
doesn't feel appropriate, but I can definitely send it to the group message.
Monet x Change
Jacob. No, we're giving you permission, Debbie.
Bob the Drag Queen
There's no N words or anything in it. Ain't no niggas in it.
Jacob
All right? And here it is in the thing.
Monet x Change
I am not reading it, Jacob.
Bob the Drag Queen
Monet, can you read it?
Monet x Change
Sure. Brooklyn Born. I don't have no sob stories for you.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, Monet, give us. Come on. Hey, hey, hey.
Jacob
That's not it.
Monet x Change
There's no way that's the first line.
Jacob
Maybe it's the one a little bit lower. The coochie Part is there, okay?
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, the coochie part is there,
Monet x Change
okay? Brooklyn born. I don't have no sob stories for you about rats and roaches in pissy pew hallways. I came busting out my mama's big coochie on January 28, 1977. Dream one of the worst. One of New York's worst snowstorms.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's the part I want. Busting outta my mama's big coochie is crazy unhinged.
Monet x Change
I'm not gonna be like, I'm Brooklyn Bourne, you know, I got some sad stories for you about being gay and shit. But you know what? I come from the hard knocks streets of East Flatbush. I came. I came swimming down my dad's big ass black dick on February.
Bob the Drag Queen
And on that note, we're gonna take a break.
Monet x Change
Close your eyes, exhale.
Bob the Drag Queen
Feel your body relax and let go
Monet x Change
of whatever you're carrying today.
Bob the Drag Queen
While I'm letting go of the worry
Monet x Change
that I wouldn't get my new contacts
Bob the Drag Queen
in time for this class.
Monet x Change
I got them delivered free from 1-800-contacts.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my gosh, they're so fast.
Monet x Change
And breathe.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, sorry. I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order. Oh, sorry. Namaste.
Monet x Change
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Bob the Drag Queen
The mildest spring ever by monetization.
Monet x Change
Oh, my God. Should I do my. Should I really do that? That would be kind of. Kind.
Bob the Drag Queen
Would you write like a, like a smutty book or would you like. If you were to write a book, what would it be?
Monet x Change
I would either write a smutty book or I love fantasy and I do want to. I do want. I do want to write a book. It would be like, like, it would be some type of crossover between, like, vampires, like, gay, like gay. I mean, now we have.
Bob the Drag Queen
There are no straight vampires.
Monet x Change
That's not true.
Bob the Drag Queen
There are no straight vampires. Vampires don't come as straight.
Monet x Change
Edward, Edward Cullen is straight.
Bob the Drag Queen
Kind of gay. They're all kind of gay. All vampires are kind of gay, but it'll be about vampires. Don't you. They're all kind of gay. Yeah, all vampires are kind of gay.
Monet x Change
It would be about, like, vampire, like assassins, though. Like, they're like, like they're, they're just like in the secret, like, society of like, vampire assassins. And I'm with. I'll be, I'll be. I'll be.
Bob the Drag Queen
Are they assassinating vampires or vampires who are assassins?
Monet x Change
They're. They're vampires or assassins kind of, like, on, like, Blade. They're. They're good guys.
Bob the Drag Queen
Are they killing? So they kill, like, demons and stuff?
Monet x Change
No, they're killing, like, real, like, regular people. But there is, like, akill, like, you're already a vampire.
Bob the Drag Queen
What makes it cool about a. Like. Like, I even get. I get through the. I want to apologize. I want to. That's not fair. I want to say you were just telling your story idea and I shit on it, and that's not fair. And I want to apologize because then
Monet x Change
what they realize is that they're. They're being hired to kill regular people, but there is, like, a secret society that is acting against them of witches. So it's really vampires versus witches.
Bob the Drag Queen
Are you a witch or you a vampire?
Monet x Change
I'm a vampire for sure.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm a witch, 100%.
Monet x Change
Oh, yeah. Gertrude is a witch. Yeah, you're a witch, bitch.
Bob the Drag Queen
Easily. I'm very witchy. Very, very witchy. I mean, I don't believe in any of that stuff, but if I was. But if I was to be, I wouldn't want to be. I wouldn't want to be a vampire. It doesn't seem like a fun light. Oh, so are your vampires, are they like Twilight? Do they just sparkle or do they die in the sun?
Monet x Change
No, no, we do not. They do not sparkle in the sun. We die in the sun.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can I say, that feels like lazy
Monet x Change
writing that they sparkle in the sunlight.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Like, makes it so now your vampires can go anywhere they want. Like. Like, what's the downside? Like, you just live. You have all this power. Like.
Jacob
No, I mean the downside. It's like an unnatural sparkle. Like they can't go into the sunlight because it is so obvious that something is weird with their skin.
Bob the Drag Queen
But. But. But who cares? You have. What you gonna do? What you gonna do to me? I'm a motherfucker. What you gonna do?
Jacob
Vampires can. The vampires in the Twilight books can
Bob the Drag Queen
still be killed, like, with the safety of the heart though, right? No.
Monet x Change
Oh, yeah. Yes. And that and pulling off their head and shit.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. You mean the same way that humans are killed, which is harder? So vampires can be killed. Everyone knows vampires can be killed. But like, a part of what makes it interesting to me as a reader or as a viewer is the vampires have to navigate through these. What is the Eddie Murphy vampire film called?
Monet x Change
Vampire in Brooklyn.
Bob the Drag Queen
Vampire in Brooklyn. Like, it is hard to navigate life, and yet you have these powers, but you also have. It's like. It's basically like if Superman. If Kryptonite Just made Superman itchy. Like we have to have a way to make it like where you like, like can the vampires in, in, in, in Twilight, can they just walk in your house?
Monet x Change
Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
So what the fuck then? Like, there's no restrictions. You just a strong ass nigga going around fucking people up sparkling like you're covered in fucking ab stones.
Jacob
Okay, so I think the central idea in Twilight is that like why the vampires are strong like a group and a mass of humans is technically stronger. So like while one vampire could theoretically kill like a hundred people pretty easily, like if you had guns, if you had an army up against them and people were like, you could take out the Cullens.
Monet x Change
But kid you though.
Jacob
Well, that's, that's why the entire. That's why they need to keep it a secret. Like the entire contention of the second book is that he's going to like reveal to him the world that he's a vampire. The other vampires are like, are going to kill him.
Monet x Change
Well, so, you know, I haven't read those books. It's been so long since the movie. I don't remember. But also, isn't it obviously that the, the werewolves. The werewolves can also kill them as well?
Jacob
The werewolves can also kill the vampires? Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can I say True Blood is a much better depiction of vampires than Twilight, in my humble opinion?
Jacob
Absolutely. For sure.
Monet x Change
I love Blade. I love Blade. I love the story of Blade.
Bob the Drag Queen
Did you see blade in Deadpool vs. Wolverine?
Monet x Change
Yes, I did actually.
Bob the Drag Queen
That was pretty sickening.
Monet x Change
Well, that movie got. I mean, I know they would do. I know it was supposed to be a parody of all. Not a parody, but it's like taking a really big piss at the Marvel at the Cinematic Universe. But it was. There were too many characters. It was too.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can you do a New Orleans accent?
Monet x Change
Yeah, baby.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can you say more than three words?
Monet x Change
No. No, baby.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, baby, I was going. Baby, I went down to New Orleans. I go and have myself a cool, cool pop. Do you remember my dancer Chiron?
Monet x Change
I don't think I ever met your dancer. Kyron.
Bob the Drag Queen
Kyron had a, like a slight. Like he had a. He had a New Orleans accent. And I just remember where did he
Monet x Change
dance for you that would have met
Bob the Drag Queen
him on the Crazy Black lady tour?
Monet x Change
No, I never met him.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I just thought his accent was so cute. And I was, you know who's like rip to the original Queen of Flips in my book? It's actually probably Kenneth Davenport, but Chi Chi Devane. Chi Devane had the cutest New Orleans accent. I remember when me and Derrick Ray were fighting. She goes, babe, baby. Yeah, I love that. Have it.
Monet x Change
Have you seen a black and white video? Well, that black and white video of Kennedy Davenport performing from, like, from 1978.
Bob the Drag Queen
Black and white. Monet.
Monet x Change
I'm pretty sure it's in black and white.
Bob the Drag Queen
Is it in black and white?
Monet x Change
I'm pretty sure it's in black and white, babe.
Bob the Drag Queen
I want to be clear that they had the capacity to film, color film at the time.
Monet x Change
I didn't say anything when they had the capacity. All I know is I know the video I fucking saw is black and white.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think someone put a filter on it to make it black and white to give it a nostalgic feeling when they re uploaded it. Because, y', all, Kennedy's not that fucking old y'.
Monet x Change
All.
Bob the Drag Queen
She's like 47 or something, girl.
Monet x Change
The video is in black and white.
Bob the Drag Queen
Are you looking at it right now?
Monet x Change
Yeah, I'm trying to find it on TikTok.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's, it's on Drag Archives.
Monet x Change
You better know it. Is that a TikTok?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Drag Race Archives. Yeah. They put a filter on that? No, it's 1998. You could not even find a black and white camcorder in 1998.
Monet x Change
I'm just saying. Well, all I know, the video I saw is in black and white. I don't know who chose to put in black and white, but the video I saw was in black and white.
Bob the Drag Queen
How old were you during the, when that, when that video came out? Eight years old.
Monet x Change
I was eight years old.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was.
Monet x Change
That's so crazy to me, that me, as someone who is my contemporary now in the industry, when they started, I was eight years old. I would not start drag for another 14 years.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, when they were. I was 14 and she was 19.
Monet x Change
Was she 19?
Bob the Drag Queen
It says around the video, 19 years old.
Monet x Change
Oh, no, she was 18.
Bob the Drag Queen
18 years old. So I was. I'm only four years younger than her. Well, the math ain't mathing, because, because,
Jacob
no, she's 44 right now, so she's 6.
Bob the Drag Queen
She's, she's five years older than me. I'll be 39 this year.
Monet x Change
So what's not math?
Bob the Drag Queen
And maybe the math is actually perfect. I went to public school in Atlanta.
Monet x Change
Please don't.
Bob the Drag Queen
Girl, we don't need, we don't need your elitism.
Jacob
It looks like you were 12 when she was 18 in 1998.
Monet x Change
Yeah, but the, you're six years younger. Do you, do you know what the. You were born.
Jacob
I mean, I, I, I think to Be fully honest. It feels like that Instagram account doesn't actually know the exact year it was and was just putting, like, a arbitrary.
Monet x Change
I don't know how old she is now.
Bob the Drag Queen
8 +4 is 12, y'. All.
Jacob
We can't do math. None of us are math girls.
Monet x Change
We all have a fucking high school diploma. We should be able to do this.
Bob the Drag Queen
Eight plus four is 12. I was 12. I was 12 years old. I did the math wrong.
Monet x Change
But you did the meth right.
Bob the Drag Queen
I've never done meth before.
Monet x Change
Me either. Nothing about it sounds exciting to me. People would describe. I'm like, this is not like a fun drug.
Bob the Drag Queen
You do it, describe it, say it's the best. Like, the first. Most people I know, I. I want y' all to know. Actually, I don't want to say this.
Monet x Change
I don't.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't want to. I don't want to say this.
Monet x Change
Well, can you write it down? Because I want to hear what it
Bob the Drag Queen
is, but I don't want anyone to. It sounds like I'm condoning meth.
Monet x Change
You're not condoning meth. We do not. We do. I mean. I mean, let me just say.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm not condoning meth. Okay. But people who have done it said the. The first time. The first time, they were like, it's the best high you'll ever have in your life. But after that, you will. Then they say, you will never get that back.
Monet x Change
They're like, you will never chasing your.
Bob the Drag Queen
Get that high again.
Monet x Change
That's a lot of drugs. Like, people are often trying to chase the first high, like, the first time that they felt, how that thing made them feel. They're trying to recreate that, but y'
Bob the Drag Queen
all don't do it. Do not commit suicide. Who said that?
Monet x Change
Alaska.
Bob the Drag Queen
No.
Monet x Change
Oh.
Bob the Drag Queen
Amanda Lepore.
Monet x Change
For what?
Bob the Drag Queen
They were doing this, like, big. Like, I think it was for the Trevor project. They're trying to get celebrities and to say stuff. They're like, amanda, do you have a message for queer youth? She goes, do not commit suicide. Do you get asked about messages for
Monet x Change
the youth all the time, Often last night at the Queerties.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you have a message?
Monet x Change
My message in these times, what I say, what's on my heart is that this thing that queer people have not. We didn't create it, but I think we have. Definitely. We talk about it a lot, and I think it's true for a lot of us is this idea of chosen family. I'm like, chosen family is something that really speaks to my heart because it helps me. It Helps me get through a lot of stuff. Right. We have to have, like, people like Bob, other chosen family. And having that and not saying that my family is shit. I don't want my family. But other queer people and chosen family is what's really getting me through these days.
Bob the Drag Queen
Does your family listen to the podcast? No, not my family either. I honestly don't think my family's really. I. No, no, no. I have. My. My. My cousin Renee is really into what I do.
Monet x Change
Renee. I met Renee, baby Renee.
Bob the Drag Queen
Really enjoyable. Other than that, like, my. My aunts, my uncle. I mean, I think my Aunt Hazel watched We're Here. They all watch. No, I think my Aunt Hazel watch We're Here, and she watched Drag Race, but none of them. If it's not on TV, they're not watching it.
Monet x Change
Yeah, they're not coming to YouTube.
Bob the Drag Queen
They're not coming to YouTube. They'RE NOT.
Monet x Change
Did they watch Traitors?
Bob the Drag Queen
No one's mentioned my brother. My brother, I think, just called me yesterday. I'm going to start watching Traders. And he was like, everyone here. Sometimes my family is really shocked that people know me. They're like, my. My father is like, oh, my God. People here in Orlando know you. I'm like, yeah, girl. He. He go.
Jacob
He.
Bob the Drag Queen
He got. He's like, do you know that you have fans in Orlando? I'm like, yes, Frank, I know that I have fans in Orlando. He's like, I cannot believe it. People in Orlando know you. Like, you actually have fans here. And also, how does that come up? Me and my dad don't look that much alike. No one's like, are you Bob the Drag Queen's dad? I think my. My mommies do this, too. They see gay people and they're like, you know, my son's Bob the Drag Queen. There's no way I came up organically in conversation when my mother was at the fucking deli and Walmart. There's no way Bob the Drag Queen just organically came up a conversation.
Monet x Change
Maybe. Maybe they had like a. I'm sure your mom probably has some of your merch or something on it. Someone's like, oh, my God, I love you. Know what I mean?
Bob the Drag Queen
My mom saw a gay guy and said, my son's Bob the Drag Queen. I can almost guarantee you that is exactly what happened. Oh, my son's Bob the Drag Queen. My mom probably went to the car, put on her Bobby drag queen shirt and started walking around the deli section until someone said something.
Monet x Change
Also, you had your mom on TV and super fans, and they're like, oh, I'm in Atlanta. You know what I mean?
Bob the Drag Queen
I know my parents, they saw a gay, and they said, I'm about to flex.
Monet x Change
Well, it has been a thing, too. When I'm out with my family, and we would be in a space and then with gay people, and they'd be like, you know, that's morning exchange. I'm like, oh, my God. And then they'll do this thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
They'll ask the fans.
Monet x Change
They'll be like, do you want a picture? So now my family is running the meet and greet. I'm like, y'.
Bob the Drag Queen
All. You know, it's really awkward when you're with a fan or with your family member or a friend, and they see a gay guy or someone, and they're like, watch this. You know, that's about the drag queen. And they be like, who?
Monet x Change
Never happened to me.
Bob the Drag Queen
I be like, you did me dirty with that one, y'. All. Y' all did not have to do me like that.
Monet x Change
No. Everyone always knows who I am.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, okay. Sure, sure. Jan, you know who gets noticed a lot?
Monet x Change
Who?
Bob the Drag Queen
Nick.
Monet x Change
Nick Smith.
Bob the Drag Queen
Nick Smith.
Monet x Change
Notice where.
Bob the Drag Queen
When we were out at Chipotle one time. Because also, Nick Smith dresses the same way all the time. Nick, like, he's in a blouse. He's in that coral De Ville jacket. Nick is also 6 foot 4. Nick looks so much like he does online, and I look a little different than I did when I was on Drag Race. Not much different, but a little different than I did on Drag Race. I just gained some weight, almost.
Monet x Change
Hair.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I was bald on Drag Race. I didn't have any hair on Drag Race. I mean, I am more bald now, but not that you all would know, because I've been shaving my head this whole time. Um, but Nick actually gets recognized all the time.
Monet x Change
Nick, you know, Nick is someone who's six' four. Nick doesn't feel like six' four. Like, there are some people who are tall. Like, oh, this person feels like a big. Like a. Like a tall. Nick doesn't feel. He doesn't feel tall, dude. Do you agree with that?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I think Nick feels very tall.
Monet x Change
Really?
Bob the Drag Queen
Nick looks like a tarantula twink.
Monet x Change
Um, do you know, I was. I was looking at a picture of
Bob the Drag Queen
a. Nick's not tall who. And, like, very short. Who, Raven Simone.
Monet x Change
Yeah. She has big energy, though.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, she is very short. In my mind, she is the same size as Queen Latifah.
Monet x Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
But she's not.
Monet x Change
Where did y' all meet?
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I see Raven all The time. I mean, the last time. I remember, I did our podcast. I'm gonna be on our podcast soon. But I remember we ran into each other at the Wicked premiere.
Monet x Change
Got it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet x Change
Yeah. She has big. She has big energy. It's so crazy when you see a RuPaul next to. Cause RuPaul's husband is substantially taller than RuPaul, and RuPaul's already, what, 6, 5,
Bob the Drag Queen
6, 4, 6, 5? RuPaul's very tall.
Monet x Change
So, I mean, so I think RuPaul's husband must be, like, 7ft.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I am.
Monet x Change
I feel like George has, like, this much on Roo.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're the only person in my realm who's not the only. I'm being a little dramatic, but
Monet x Change
this picture of Bob and Robin.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. I was about to say, Monet, you're one of the only people in my. In my, like, sphere who is, like, average height. Like, everyone else is. Like, there I. I am surrounded by tiny people or people who are, like, taller than me. I was the. I was not even the third tallest person on my season of Drag Race.
Monet x Change
What people on. Were people on Traders Saw. I'm trying to think of when you were lying up to everyone. Rob the. Boston Rob is pretty. Is average. Right?
Bob the Drag Queen
Boston Rob is. No. Boston Robins is a little boss Robin, I say is at least six feet tall. Danielle, sitting next to me on that couch at the reunion looked hilarious. It looked like. It always looked like someone did this to me in the picture. Like, I look like someone, like, scaled me up in the picture.
Monet x Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
J Jay, can you post this picture of me, Rob, and Layla McQueen at the photo shoot for the. For the reunion? Like, it. It looks like people are. Like. People keep being like, is this photoshopped?
Monet x Change
Layla McQueen. Where's my motherfucking lashes, bitch? I ordered some lashes. I ain't get my lashes yet.
Bob the Drag Queen
There's also a picture of me next to Elliot. Page I can try to find. I hope it's on screen right now.
Monet x Change
Tales of the City.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, Tales of the City. Me and Elliot Paige are sitting side by side. But it's also exacerbated because he's in a short director's chair and I'm in a tall director's chair. People are like, this has to be Photoshopped This.
Monet x Change
But there's one someone did Photoshop. There's the real one. That is crazy. And there's another one Someone, like, made it even crazier. Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
Which. Which is. Which looks so fucking funny. I'm still convinced that they're Photoshopping. Those are not the heights of the judges on Drag Race.
Monet x Change
Oh, yeah, no, they definitely edit those.
Bob the Drag Queen
But why don't they make someone put all the.
Monet x Change
They took all the T.S. madison pictures and put them. Like, they just took it from the picture and put it next to each other on a thing. And she. But she's. It's like they move them up and
Bob the Drag Queen
down, but maybe she's short.
Monet x Change
You know what I'm saying? She's not sure. But they. Her size isn't consistent in their editing, like, in all the different times she's on the show.
Bob the Drag Queen
I want to tell the story. I think. I think she'll be fine if I tell the story. One time, I was at Peppermint show at City Winery in Atlanta, and T.S. madison came in and she said. She said. And we were sitting next to each other, and then Peppermint was talking about how. How hard it is to exist as a trans woman. Like, it's dangerous. Like, people want to hurt trans women. And TSMAS was like, yes, true. It's true. And I was like, yeah, I believe you, girl. And she goes. And you know what? I said, what? And then she took my hand and she put it on her giant breast, and she just put my hand on her titty, and she jiggled it a little bit, and there was something hard in there. And she was like, that's right. I'll leave it at that. She goes, that's right. There was something very firm in that brassiere work that was gaggy. I remember being like. Cause y' all bear in mind, I have never even held one of those in my life. Never once. Go ahead, you can go.
Monet x Change
Well, we will have some time home. We need to do the. Anything you can do. The first one we're doing is a gun range.
Bob the Drag Queen
I've never even held one in my life.
Monet x Change
The first time I went and shot one of the gun races, I didn't hold one either.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I'd still be better than you, but that's besides the point.
Monet x Change
I have someone that can do it, that can film it for us. We just gotta pick some time.
Bob the Drag Queen
I have someone, too. We'll use my guy. We'll use my lady. Wow.
Monet x Change
First of all, you already misgendered me.
Bob the Drag Queen
I have a guy and a lady. We'll use the lady.
Monet x Change
Who's the guy?
Bob the Drag Queen
His name is Kane.
Monet x Change
Since when? I never heard you mention.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, Nick of knows Cain.
Jacob
I do know Kane. Yes. Kane does all of Willem's videos. Or in the past, Kane has worked with him a Lot.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't actually know.
Jacob
No, no, no, that's not. That's not Drama Reed.
Bob the Drag Queen
He's this Australian guy that. That came and filmed for me. And. And I. And I have this lady named Sam, did our podcast yesterday.
Monet x Change
Which one was Sam?
Bob the Drag Queen
The Asian lady.
Monet x Change
Oh, got it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. And there's also Naysha.
Monet x Change
Who's Naysha?
Bob the Drag Queen
Naysha was the. Was the one who was doing the lights behind. We were handing. We were handing Naysha the tables and.
Monet x Change
Got it. Got it.
Bob the Drag Queen
And Diego, who you microaggressed, but I don't want to get you canceled, so we'll just skip over that.
Monet x Change
Okay. I did not microaggress Diego.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you want to apologize to Diego? Diego looked at the podcast.
Monet x Change
I did not microaggress him. I would not apologize for something I didn't do.
Bob the Drag Queen
Monet. What, does growth kick in into your thighs every day to get your ass to grow?
Monet x Change
When I stop working with you, that's when it'll start.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, give me my hoodie and let's wrap this motherfucker up then.
Monet x Change
No, you're not getting this hoodie, Bob. If you want this hoodie, you know what you have to do to get it.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're not getting that.
Monet x Change
Then. You're not getting this hoodie.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm getting that hoodie, y'. All. One day, Monet came to my apartment and stole another thing she stole from me. You stole my taliwallically as hard.
Monet x Change
I did not steal it.
Bob the Drag Queen
And then you vandalized it.
Monet x Change
I did not steal it, Bob. Let's be very clear.
Bob the Drag Queen
And then you vandalized it.
Monet x Change
You asked me what I. I asked you to borrow the leotard. I will say I did stone it without your permission, but I did not steal the leotard from you.
Bob the Drag Queen
Monet stole and vandalized a garment that I gave her, which is crazy, and give me back my motherfucking orange wig. I'm taking my wig back, too. So, Monet, can I tell you something? I actually wanna bring this up, and it's something that. It kind of hurt my feelings, but you didn't do anything wrong, and it's because I'm sen.
Monet x Change
Okay, tell me about this. Lord, I have to say, dating a sober person, being best friend with a sober person, I often. I often have. I'm in this position, which I appreciate. You guys are very aware of your feelings, and you want to talk about your feelings. I'm listening.
Bob the Drag Queen
You asked me for a copy of my book, and I sent you a digital copy of the book. And I know that you have not finished reading it. I don't even know if you started it yet.
Monet x Change
I did start, but I was at
Bob the Drag Queen
your house or something. Maybe I was hanging out with Ty and we were just talking. Somehow we ended up talking about books. And then Ty was like, oh, Monet's reading this book and it's a giant. It's a giant book. It's huge.
Monet x Change
Not a giant book.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, y', all. This book, I thought it was a fucking encyclopedia.
Monet x Change
It's not.
Bob the Drag Queen
Girl, what is that?
Monet x Change
It's Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut. It's not a big book.
Bob the Drag Queen
Maybe it wasn't a big book. I don't remember. Maybe I didn't see the book. But Ty told me that you were reading a book. And I was like, monet stopped reading my book or didn't even start. Started reading a different book and has not read my book.
Monet x Change
I'm reading both books simultaneously.
Bob the Drag Queen
But Monet, my book. This is a. This is a three day read. Look up.
Monet x Change
I know, I know.
Bob the Drag Queen
I read this book in two days
Monet x Change
and I read slowly and I will, I promise it. Before this book is available to the general public. I would have finished it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob had a vacation book and it hurt my feelings too. We were. We were getting ready to go to New Year's and Jacob had this. I mean, y'.
Monet x Change
All.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob had a. It's like, I mean, when I tell you this book. When I tell you Jacob's book was like this.
Monet x Change
I was like, wait, wait, what book is it, Jacob?
Jacob
Oh, I was reading the House of Flame and Shadow.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, that was the giant book.
Monet x Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
So that's the book you're excited about? Bitch, are you fucking with me on purpose?
Monet x Change
We could have written. Written a book together. Written. Wrote in a word.
Bob the Drag Queen
Written. You don't want to write a book together?
Monet x Change
I'll write a book together with you.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think I'm interested in anything that's not fiction though. I don't want to write anything. Stories. And I don't want to do that.
Monet x Change
I'm just into essays. I feel like a book. You. If you and I did a book about essays on like siblings or like essays of like best friends or like, like close knit people who like gone through things and like how to like get through it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'd rather do short stories and have them be fiction.
Monet x Change
I say short stories.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, but fiction stories, like little short pictures. I don't think I want to write any.
Monet x Change
Like what though?
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know. We could figure out a theme. Can we talk about the book that's actually in my hand. You. The one that you.
Monet x Change
The one that brought us anyway?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes, but I mentioned that my feelings were hurt that you didn't. That you stopped reading my book to read someone else's book.
Monet x Change
Well, the only reason I hurt my
Bob the Drag Queen
feelings because you specifically asked for a
Monet x Change
copy of the book.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I remember saying, if you don't read this book, my feelings will be hurt.
Monet x Change
Well, my intention is not to hurt your feelings, and your feelings of being hurt by that are valid, and I would never want to hurt your feelings like that.
Bob the Drag Queen
It only hurts my feelings when people ask for the books. There's also someone else in my life who asked for a copy of the book and I sent them. They have not read it, and I'm still mad at them, too.
Monet x Change
Who is it you want to tell us?
Jacob
Say their name?
Bob the Drag Queen
Depends on. It's someone for our management team.
Jacob
We used to be a podcast that stood for some time.
Monet x Change
Jacob, you took the words right out of my pussy.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, it's.
Monet x Change
What?
Bob the Drag Queen
Someone from our management team. They don't know him. They don't know. They literally don't know who this is. The fans have no clue who this is.
Monet x Change
If they don't know what to say, who cares then?
Bob the Drag Queen
But they asked me for the book. I sent it and they did not read. And I was like, that's. And I remember. And I said. I said, if I send you this, you don't read it. My feelings will be hurt. It's only when they ask for it. Like, I want the book. Please send me the book.
Monet x Change
But Bob will also include something like this.
Bob the Drag Queen
Bob would have wrote the.
Monet x Change
You wrote the book. Obviously, it comes out. You have, like, the paperback ones. You were like, wow, my book came in. Monet didn't even ask you for a copy. So then you feel bad. I'm like, well, I do want a copy. I was going to buy it like a regular person and not ask you for one for free.
Bob the Drag Queen
Again, I'm not saying I'm sensitive. I'm acknowledging that I am being very sensitive right now. But it's because, Monet, it took me four years to write this book. Four years. If you think about from the time I got the book deal to the time I finished the audio recording, it was five years to finish this book. I just put my heart and soul into it. I'm so proud of this book. I think it is so smart, so clever. I'm so proud of how it is well written. The everything, the syntax, the world building. I'm just so Proud of the elements of this book. So I just want people to appreciate it.
Monet x Change
Well, we're gonna have you on Monet Talks. I'm gonna talk all about your book, and by the time you go to do Monet Talks, I'm gonna have read some of it. Not all of it, but I would have read some of it.
Bob the Drag Queen
You can't bring someone on your talk show if you haven't read the book, then.
Monet x Change
Okay, yes, you can. Like, you can.
Bob the Drag Queen
But it feels like poor journalism.
Monet x Change
No, that's not true. I can do.
Bob the Drag Queen
I can go for journalism now. I'm going to journalism.
Jacob
Have you watched Motox?
Monet x Change
Yeah, I have.
Jacob
Well, there you go.
Monet x Change
I don't know if that was a. I thought that was a dig at you or a dig at me. One of us.
Jacob
It feels like. Sorry. Bob said, it feels like poor journalism. And I said, have you watched Motox? That's. That was the joke.
Monet x Change
Not called Motox. I guess you don't watch it either. It's called Monet Talks. Boo.
Jacob
Drag me.
Bob the Drag Queen
Also, Monat went on the. On the Patreon and was like, y' all go vote for Monet Talks. Campaigning against a show she's on. Which did win at the Queerties, by the way.
Monet x Change
We did.
Bob the Drag Queen
Even though you were trying to campaign against our show. That's crazy.
Monet x Change
Well, I had two shows in one category. The Queerties need to not. They can't. I mean, yeah, great, but, like, you could have put in two shows. Two nominations for yourself in one category is wild.
Bob the Drag Queen
Maybe you should just be proud that you got double nominated.
Monet x Change
And I'm happy that Dungeons and Drag Queens won. It was great.
Bob the Drag Queen
You did go on stage and call Dungeons and Drag Queen players losers in the beginning of your speech.
Monet x Change
I mean, I was being honest. I said. I said. What I said was, when I got asked to do is. I used to think that. That. I used to think that playing Desert Dragon, Dead drag queens playing Deserts of Dragons was for losers. Boy, was I wrong. This has been a great process. I've been loved doing the show.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is from the Pokemon pitch. Oh, but Pokemon's cool.
Monet x Change
Back then. I thought it was. You didn't see Ebony? Ebony was. Ebony was decked out. Did you see Ebony? Ebony's glam and everything. Ebony looked so stunning.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, yeah. She looked amazing.
Monet x Change
Beautiful. And Brennan. So we were. When we first got there, everyone was. We were talking with Brennan, whatever, and then someone walked by, and I was like, yeah, I'm here with the Castle Drop. I'm here with the cast of Dropout. Brennan, everyone. And I think it was Assad. He was like, oh, my God. I didn't even recognize you without. Without. Without your beard.
Bob the Drag Queen
And he was like, yeah, it's me.
Monet x Change
Assad went crazy over Brennan. It was very cute.
Bob the Drag Queen
He didn't have a beard last night, did he?
Monet x Change
I know he didn't. He did not. Brendan did not have a beard on.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was so caught up in. Can I tell you something that's kind of silly? I was starstruck with seeing Joellen last night. Is that crazy?
Monet x Change
Oh, my God. I saw her in line, so when she came up in line, I was like, oh, my God. I was like, joella. Yeah. I was gagged to see her as well.
Bob the Drag Queen
Is it crazy? I was like, oh, my God, Y' all. Gagging, honey. Gagging. And by the way, before we go, the last thing I want to say is online is, y', all, if you join our Patreon, you can see that Monet and I, we. We kind of hash out some of our drama on there. And I want y' all to know that Monae lied to you again. Monet 100% purchased those chips. She brought them to my house and she handed. I will. And I will post a picture of me holding the bag of chips, y',
Monet x Change
all, if you believe that fucking shit I have.
Bob the Drag Queen
You bought the chips?
Monet x Change
I have a bridge in Terabithia to fucking sell you. Monet purchased the chips, Bob or Jacob. Any motherfucking chips, Jacob.
Bob the Drag Queen
Did Monet buy the chips or not?
Monet x Change
Yeah. Cause that's a fucking reliable source.
Jacob
I don't know why she's doing a bit like she didn't.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I will post a picture, and we may. I'm gonna post. No.
Monet x Change
Post. Post the video you took of me walking up to your house with the chips.
Bob the Drag Queen
I didn't take a video. I took a picture. You know that.
Monet x Change
Oh, okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
And you didn't walk up to my house. You parked out front of it, and I came outside. Okay, so why you act. Why are you acting like.
Monet x Change
See, Cameron's doing that?
Bob the Drag Queen
You stayed back, and you and I went over to the party, and then you. And then you looked at me and you goes, of course. You know, I got you these chips, and you handed them to me and you said, girl, you know I got you these chips. And you also got the voodoo chips for Jacob.
Monet x Change
You know what? Camion was right about you. Camion should have never got you them fucking Reese's Cups. You just sat your ass there with the ninja creep with no fucking Reese's Cups with Your fucking lion ass.
Bob the Drag Queen
And on that note.
Jacob
And on that note, Bob is now going to read us an excerpt from Harriet Tubman Live in Concert, available worldwide tomorrow.
Bob the Drag Queen
You can get it@rethedragqueen.com and if you want a signed copy, you can go to bobsignedbook. Com.
Monet x Change
Should I. Should I. Should I sign some as well?
Bob the Drag Queen
You'll sign one random book. And if you get a book with double signature, just know this is the one we're talking about. It's also available for audiobook as well. And I do narrate the book and there are two original songs in the audiobook. I think the jig is up. I'm starting to really freak out. This place is starting to feel dangerous to me. And when I say this place, I mean my own mind. I feel like I'm back in church on Sunday with my mother. Can you please. I just need to. Excuse me for a moment. My hands are clammy. I'm tripping over my words. I'm not as articulate as I normally am. I rush over to Buck and pull him into the corner. He's only moving because he wants to. I don't have the strength to actually move his body. I have to stand on my tiptoes to angrily whisper to him. If you told everyone here about me, I'll. Buck crosses his arms in a very intimidating way. You'll what? He asked. I'll be hurt, Buck. I'll be really hurt. I've already gone through this once and I can't go through it again. And I say this loud enough that everyone can hear me. And now they're all paying too much attention to us. What the hell's going on over there? Odessa asks. You know what? My eyes are starting to tear up, but I still stare Buck down. There's nothing going on over here. I gotta step away for a second. I'm headed toward the door when I hear the hammer of a pistol cocked behind me. It's a sound I have never heard in real life, but it is instantly recognizable. Don't even think about it, Harriet says. I know somebody trying to turn back when I see it. You planning on leaving this room and not coming back? I know the look of somebody afraid to continue their journey. Now I done told you I'm in the business of getting people they freedom. And you ain't free from something, baby. Am I the next Walt Whitman? I think so. Thank you all.
Podcast: Sibling Rivalry
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
Date: March 24, 2025
Summary by Expert Podcast Summarizer
This episode of Sibling Rivalry dives into the theme of books—reading habits, book memories, book-inspired drama, Bob’s new release, and whether or not it’s okay to steal someone’s hoodie or Reese’s Cups. As always, Bob and Monét’s banter is playful, shady, and full of hilarious storytelling. The pair talk literature, recount embarrassing moments of theft, argue about ownership of fan gifts, and muse on Queer community and chosen family, all while keeping listeners laughing.
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Equal parts hilarious, shady, and heartfelt, Bob and Monét riff naturally and often veer wildly off-topic (from drag math to family pride), but always circle back to core themes of friendship, artistry, and queer resilience. Their comedic chemistry keeps the episode zippy even as it delves into personal or vulnerable memories.
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