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Bob the Drag Queen
I started Ornad in 2013 and we make bike apparel. The best part of Shopify for me is our ability to run the business as essentially non technical people. We're able to admin everything on the back end, front end, and sell things online easily. If Shopify were a bike accessory, I think it would actually be the bicycle. It's the thing that you do the thing on. We run the business on Shopify. Start your free trial on shopify.com My name is Bob the Drag Queen and I'm Monet X Change. And this is simply rivalry.
Monet X Change
On this week's episode, Monet talks about a guacamole disaster.
Bob the Drag Queen
We talk all about Christmas and we
Monet X Change
find out what made Monet say this.
Bob the Drag Queen
It honestly has sounded great, but I've never met anyone else who has done it. And we find out what made Trinity say this.
Monet X Change
That was the end of that.
Bob the Drag Queen
Uh, I. Look who is back in the house. The Twinners are here, reunited. And it feels so good.
Monet X Change
I don't know that I've ever seen you with this much scruff, bitch.
Bob the Drag Queen
I know, I know. I'm getting.
Monet X Change
You been on vacation?
Bob the Drag Queen
Um, no. Well, yes, because I'm getting. I'm getting surgery tomorrow.
Monet X Change
Surgery?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I'm getting. I'm having ffs.
Monet X Change
Are you really?
Narrator/Host
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, not. I'm having foot feminization surgery. Not face feminization surgery.
Monet X Change
Okay. What are you really having a foot surgery?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, foot on both my feet to make them pretty. Yeah.
Monet X Change
You're Lying. You are gaslighting me right now.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I am. Even Jacob, though, I'm 1 million percent serious. I am. I'm dead. I'm dead serious.
Monet X Change
So why. What. What about them?
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, because I have, like. Because before drag, I had beautiful, gorgeous, amazing feet. Drag has ruined my feet. So I have, like, these slight bunions coming in, sort of shaving those down. And then I have, like, corns on, like, two of my toes, and they're basically, like, removing those. So. But it's like an invasive surgery, so I'm like. And yeah, so I'm here in Florida. Well, you're not home, but I'm in Florida to do it.
Monet X Change
And how long is that the recovery for that?
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, so that's the thing. The doctor was like, you'll be able to walk out of surgery. Which I was like, whoa. And then he was like, yeah. Like, I. I have to wear these, like, soft shoes for, like, three weeks, and then I can, like, then. And I can't get my feet wet. I had to, like, be off my feet for two weeks and then. But beginning of January, he said, you should. You'll be back in regular shoes. So about five weeks, I'll be back in regular shoes.
Monet X Change
Okay. Work, bitch. You be doing shows and flip flops,
Bob the Drag Queen
honey, I know I have, like, a few shows to do. Well, no, I guess I took all of December off. So my first show is for my tour in January, which is January 9th. So I was like, before the surgery, I was like, doctor, I have a thing on January 9th. Will I be able to wear heels to my show on that day? He was like, yes.
Monet X Change
So if not, bitch, you better be finding you some fierce flat tha boots.
Bob the Drag Queen
Trinity. I have big fucking gargoyle feet. I. Y', all, here's the thing about Trinity. Trinity will pop in. Like, Trinity will come to a gig and not have a shoe. Trinity can go to any store and find a shoe that works for an outfit. I don't have that luxury, bitch. I have to order my shoes because my feet are so big.
Monet X Change
What size shoe do you wear?
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm a women's 14.
Monet X Change
You're kidding.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't.
Monet X Change
I didn't know they made shoes that big. Girl, I've never. There is not a shoe in a store for that.
Bob the Drag Queen
I know. Well, Payless used to. Back in the day, when I first started drag, Payless used to go up to. It depends. Like, comfortably. Comfortably a 14. But a lot of my shoes are size 13. Hence the reason why we're here. But open toe, I can get it with open toe, I can get away with like 12.
Jacob
You.
Monet X Change
You can't get away with that. No, you ain't getting away. Trust. We notice. We notice. We noticed that size, bitch, the toes are hanging on.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no. In 12. I don't know, for whatever reason, but with this surgery, bitch. So my big toe and my big toe is staying the size. The same size, but all the other ones, they're all going to go down, like, slightly. They're all going to go down like an eighth or a quarter of an inch, something like that.
Monet X Change
Bitch, if you get inserted, you might as well be like, cut off the big toe. Cut off the big. I want. I want a size 10.
Bob the Drag Queen
I thought about it. I really thought about asking, can you make me any size I want? He's like, you don't want that. He was like, no, you do not want that. But then my other friend, she's like. I had a friend that got a similar surgery and she didn't, like, listen to the doctor or whatever. And now her second and fourth toe just flap. Just flap around. Like, they don't. They don't have. They don't have any. Like, she can't move, though. Those second and fourth ones kind of like flap her out.
Monet X Change
It's like those dogs, the dog toes that. That's, like right here on the dogs that they sometimes amputate. You didn't know that they have like a little dog claw that's, like, back here that just flops around. It doesn't. There's no. There's no need for it. It's just a. A little.
Bob the Drag Queen
I never seen that on. Wait, do all dogs have this?
Monet X Change
Yeah. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, now I never noticed.
Monet X Change
Yeah, it's. It has, like. It's made out of cartilage, but it's like basically just skin just hanging there. It doesn't have movement or anything.
Bob the Drag Queen
Huh. I actually look closer at that potato, then I didn't notice that.
Monet X Change
Yeah, some dogs, the vets will say you should remove it for the fact.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Jacob
Oh.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, shit. So why do they have that? The dogs just. Did they just evolve to not need to use that.
Monet X Change
Got it. It's like some humans have different extra bones that they don't use anymore.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Yeah. They had a girl in my elementary school, she had an extra pinky and. Yeah, she.
Monet X Change
An extra pinky.
Bob the Drag Queen
It was like a tiny, like. Yeah, literally like a tiny little pinky, which I. But I've seen it a lot on people, but I don't think she. She didn't opt to get her removed. Like she had. Was around during school.
Monet X Change
Girl. So to tell you a quick story. What. When I first started drag, there was this drag queen in a city near where I lived. It was like 30 minutes away and I. It was my first time doing a show there. Well, there's this drag queen. Her name was Bambi. And love, love Bambi. She. She's passed away now, but I was a special guest. I just started drag. I was getting dressed in a separate bot than the other cast. And so I didn't notice Bambi until we were doing callbacks. And so she was second.
Bob the Drag Queen
Was the cast of the show.
Monet X Change
Girl. Like four, four people than me.
Bob the Drag Queen
They got it. Got it.
Monet X Change
But, but the club was so small. Like they, like, the dressing space was literally like a broom closet.
Bob the Drag Queen
Got you. Gotcha.
Monet X Change
So they had like two little closets that they had us dress in. So two in one and two in the other. And so Bambi went out. Did you know her callback? Then I went out and did our callback and we had to like hold each other's hand to do a bow. Girl. No one told me. And you know, I, it just was a startle because I just didn't realize.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
Bambi's hand that I was grabbing was like a little, like a, like a little hand. Like it was a little arm and it only had three fingers.
Narrator/Host
Oh.
Monet X Change
And so it looked like, respectfully, it looked like a Tyrannosaurus rex arm.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, like it's like she'll show a smaller hand.
Monet X Change
Yeah. And then in her other arm was fine. It was like normal. And then she would put, she would put nails on those three fingers.
Bob the Drag Queen
Girl. Word.
Monet X Change
And, and so I went to grab her hand and I was startled because nobody told me. I mean, like not, not making fun of her. I just, I just was startled.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Yeah. Also, also on drag shows, everybody's always doing something crazy. Like it's just been doing a bit or, or is it a thing? You know what I mean?
Monet X Change
But, but the, the funny part is, is I think she noticed. She obviously noticed that I got startled and she like, she laughed at me. She's like, yeah, that's my, my Tyrannosaurus rex arm. She said something like that. So what I love about Bambi is she always like made fun of herself. She's very self deprecating like I am.
Jacob
Yeah.
Monet X Change
And such a fun gal. But sadly, she's not with us anymore.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is, this, this was back in your old Alabama days.
Monet X Change
Alabama days. Way before Drag Race. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, I love, I mean, shout Out, Shout out, Shout out to all the differently abled queens out there doing their thing. There is a queen in New York, Neon Calypso. Who? She's a Brooklyn queen. I think she's from Boston. But she became a New York queen because she moved anyway. And then. So it was the first. It was when I did nightgowns. It is Sasha Velour's nightgowns. And Neon was also in the show. And we're in this theater in Brooklyn or whatever, this venue in Brooklyn, painting, doing our thing, blah, blah, blah. I'm sitting next to her during the course of painting. She just goes, oh, I gotta get makeup off my eye. And I was. Because, like, as we're getting ready and Neon pops her eye out. And I was like. She's like, oh, girl. What? It's a glass eye. And I was like, bitch, you better work. But the way she popped her eye, I was like, oh. Like, it was again, kind of. It was like, so, so startling. But we all had, like, good old Kiki Ka. Oh, girl. Yeah. All this because I seen her makeup, like, you know, like, foundation or whatever would, like, get her on her eye, and she had to, like, take the eye out to, like, clean off the.
Monet X Change
That's crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
I know, I know. So shout out to all the differently abled queens out there doing their thing. Honestly, that would be a gag if, you know, if I had an eye like that, I would do some. Knowing me, I would do some crazy shit in a number. Especially back in my days. I used to do this bitch, I used to do this fat number I used to call my fat mix. And I would, like. I took clips of. It was Kelly Clarkson's like, you're a drug. It's like you're a demon. I can't face down.
Monet X Change
What's that song? It's like I can't breathe.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That song. I don't remember the name of it.
Monet X Change
Addicted to youo.
Bob the Drag Queen
Addicted. It was Addicted, Addicted. Yeah. So I would do that. No. And I had it spliced, like, different. Like clips from, like, movies of, like, that scene from White Chicks when she's, like, trying on the dress and she's like, oh, I'm Shamu. Whatever, whatever. So then at the end of the number, I think I put it on Patreon a while ago. At the end of the number, it's like the build up for the song. I pull out this shopping bag and I get a bowl out and I put like, Crisco mayonnaise icing all These things. And I mix it like nine ingredients. I mix it together and I start eating it on stage. And the audience would always like, nah, it was such a crazy number I used to do. And I kept. And I used to eat that shit on stage to swallow it for perfect.
Monet X Change
And that's my worst nightmare. Condiments. A bowl of condiments you ate.
Bob the Drag Queen
Girl, you ought to know. Trinity hates condiments. Trinity does not want any condiments on her food. That is crazy.
Monet X Change
No, girl. And so I. My show that I did the worst cooks in America celebrity that we. That I did like last year, it airs in January and girl, I have to cook with condiments. Y' all have to tune in because it gets wild, girl.
Bob the Drag Queen
It gets wild. Is there a single condiment that you do like? Is there one condiment you like?
Monet X Change
Oh, yeah, there are a lot of condiments. I love anything with like vinegar and oil. Like oil based stuff. I like. I like barbecue sauce. As long as it doesn't have mustard in it. I like soy sauce. I like.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay,
Monet X Change
I just don't like cream basis stuff like no mayonnaise, no sour cream, no mustard. Stuff like that I don't like.
Bob the Drag Queen
I went through the story of. It was when I was on Work the World the first year and we were in Stockholm and the promoter like takes us out to dinner in Stockholm as we get there, which was rare because, you know, on these tours, you know, you don't. You don't really interact with the person brings it. But for whatever reason, this buyer in Stockholm wanted to take all the girls out for dinner. So we all get dressed to go out to dinner. And he was like, I'm taking you guys to the number one Mexican restaurant in Stockholm. Oh, right.
Monet X Change
Red flag Mexican food in Stockholm, Germany, girl.
Bob the Drag Queen
Stockholm, Sweden.
Monet X Change
Sweden. No, I don't know my geography.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, so, but your reaction is the reaction we all had. We were like the number one Mexican in Stockholm. Um, okay, so we out to dinner. We're doing the thing and we are, you know, we order our food, whatever. The food comes out and it looks fine, but the guacamole looks strange.
Monet X Change
It's not green.
Bob the Drag Queen
So it's green, but it just doesn't look like, you know, like when you get to guacamole D, you can see like little chunks of avocado. Like, you know, like, you know, it looks like something that was mashed. You can see some bigger chunks, but it just like smooth, flat. We were like, okay, whatever. I think detox or maybe let's. Or Kim One of them goes to take a chip and took in the guac and girl, it wasn't guacamole in Sweden. It was green colored mayonnaise with tomatoes and onions chopped up in it to like look like guacamole. But it was like green colored mayonnaise.
Monet X Change
That is my worst night, girl. This is why I could never do a show like Dragula. Like they'd be making you eat some weird ass. I would, I could never
Jacob
do that.
Bob the Drag Queen
Or get exterminated and get, and get eliminated. You're such a competitive person.
Monet X Change
Send me home, girl. I don't want the hundred thousand.
Jacob
You.
Monet X Change
You want me to eat brains? Absolutely not.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I don't. I, I like to think that I could stomach like for the four competition for like I could stomach through and I could get through it, but I don't know if I could eat like, you know, you ever seen that thing? When I think it's a, it's a delicacy and some in an Asian country. I've seen it where it's the egg and you open it and it's the embryo inside with like the feathers and stuff on it. Still no. Yeah, I like to think if there was money on the line of competition, I could do it, but that would be really tough for me. That would be really tough for me to get through.
Monet X Change
No, I couldn't do that. Like I'm. I'm really smell sensitive too. Yeah, all these, all these like ripe booty eaters on Grindr, girl. No, no, no, ma'. Am.
Bob the Drag Queen
Bob likes it. Bob doesn't like a booty fresh out the shower. He likes it like, you know from like, let's say you're at the club and you guys go home. He likes that.
Monet X Change
Nope. So I was dating. This was years ago. This was that back in 2016 because I remember because the election with Hillary Clinton. I was dating this hot, hot Puerto Rican man and.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wait, wait. Let's take a quick break and then we'll talk about your hot Puerto Rican man.
Monet X Change
Okay. Yes. Okay, honey, Close your eyes. Exhale. Feel your body relax and let go of whatever you're carrying today.
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Bob the Drag Queen
And we're back.
Monet X Change
So the hot Puerto Rican man.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
I was dating this guy, and we were taking it slow. Like, he was a gentleman. He was a sweetheart. We had, like, went on three dates, and then he had invited me over because he wanted to cook for me, and so we did that. And then. So this was like the fourth date. We finally, like, fooled around and.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, so, so, so, so demure. You wait till the fourth date. That's very sweet.
Monet X Change
No, that's very uncommon for me. But because I was really into this guy. We. We were just taking it, you know, we were just getting to know each other.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
So we did. We were doing stuff or whatever. Well, he, you know, he went to go eat the peach, and I noticed, like. Like, he was like. It was kind of weird. And after we got done with everything, he was like. It was like. He was like, oh, that was great. Blah, blah, blah, blah. He's like, but next time, I don't want you to shower. I said, that was the end of that, sweetie. That was the end of that. You don't want me to shower? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. And luckily, I did not. Normally I love to munch and crunch, too, but this time, for some reason, I didn't. And thank God I didn't.
Bob the Drag Queen
Girl, you get back there. You get a nice surprise. Girl.
Monet X Change
Bitch, I'm not trying to open a box of chocolates. I am not trying to try the delicacy of some condiments back there. No, ma'.
Bob the Drag Queen
Am. Open up. I never. I don't know if you just coined that term. I never heard that before, but I'm not trying to open a box of chocolates. Is a great. That is a great euphemism for being painted on in the rear back there. That's pretty.
Monet X Change
I just made that up.
Bob the Drag Queen
I love that. I love that. Trinity. I've been thinking, and I don't know how they do it.
Monet X Change
Surgery.
Bob the Drag Queen
But, you know, with. We're going to talk about surgery in a second with show. You know, Peppermint was first on. Was on the first. Well, not the first. Yes. Was on the first. The second American season of Traitors. Bob was on the third one. And if only. Then there's only one drag race or queer person. I don't know who needs to hear this. Traitors Season 4. You need to have the Twinners on Traitors Season 4.
Monet X Change
The chaos.
Jacob
The.
Bob the Drag Queen
It would be. It would be. Let me tell y'. All. Y' all need to have the Twitters Trinity. The Tuck and Monet. X change on season four. Traitors. Casting whoever. You're missing out on great television and another Emmy.
Monet X Change
Yes. Yep. And then who knows if one of us becomes a traitor and then girl, it would be. We would already have an alliance. How would we know?
Bob the Drag Queen
I know. Well, that's the thing on the show. The people who in like all this, all the Survivor people, like have an alliance, like all the people from Housewives, but with Drag Race and also being the only queer person like you are, you have to find. Cause there is no one else to make an alliance with. Like all these people are coming with built in relationships and friendships. Except the, except the Drag Race person.
Monet X Change
So that's why Peppermint got eliminated also because that girl was transphobic for sure. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
What's her name? Alex. Not Alexis.
Monet X Change
I don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
Trishell. Trishell.
Monet X Change
Yeah, Trishell. She don't look like a Trishell. She looks like a Tracy. One of Trixie's cousins, honey. And when I say Trixie's cousins, probably one of my cousins too, if we're being real.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, but like I was like, I, I would, I. If we were on Traders together, that would be so. It would be so good.
Monet X Change
It would be really good. We should. How do we apply? Bob knows you had the in.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't, I don't think, I don't think you apply. I think they like, they kind of reach out to celebs. They want to be on it. I, I don't think, I don't think there's a, there's an application you can do. I think there's like, see people then they want to get on the show.
Monet X Change
So also we should try to do the circle together but like not do it as ourselves. Like we'll go in together as one person.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, that would be fun.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
I haven't seen a circle in a long. I haven't seen it since like season four. Is, is it still good?
Monet X Change
I haven't watched it in a while either. But what I remember, it was really, it was really fun.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Yeah, me too. Yeah, it was, it was, it was good as fuck. So, bitch. Have you been seeing all these new celebrities popping out with all the surgeries? First people are talking about how great which she looks. Incredible. Christina Aguilera is out here looking in.
Monet X Change
She looks better than she did when she first came out.
Bob the Drag Queen
Girl.
Monet X Change
Girl.
Bob the Drag Queen
Because also that's what the altered they show. Like the makeup these loves used to get done in early 2000. I'm like, I'm like, is this going to be what we look at. What we look at makeup now. Like, how. Why were they painting people like that back in the early. Like, the makeup was just bad.
Monet X Change
It was bad. But back then, we were, like, living.
Bob the Drag Queen
I know. We thought it was everything.
Monet X Change
Well, I mean, girl, I was looking at my makeup, my drag makeup from years ago. I was like, oh, God. And everybody was thinking I was gorgeous. Girl, I look like a brick.
Bob the Drag Queen
Looking great. Lindsay Lohan popped out looking sickening. Like, she literally looked 20 years younger. It's kind of crazy.
Monet X Change
It is Another one that looked better than she did when she first started. It was. It's crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
And now Donatella Versace, they got another one.
Bob the Drag Queen
And another one. Thank you. Look at Donatella fucking Versace. This bitch looks so good. She posted. She posted it on Instagram. She said, rsv. Rsvp. Yes. The Devil Wears Prada for its opening. Oh, she was. I thought she was making a joke about the Devil Wears Prada. Cause she's Dolce. Cause she's a Versace. Got it. She went to go see this is the opening night of the Devil Wears Prada, which I want to go see that bitch.
Monet X Change
Girl, look, her hair's different. Her makeup is different. Her surgery is definitely different. Girl, this is just for somebody like me. This is a menu. I'm like, I want this because, girl, look. You could see it in here. This under my eye. Girl. She turns 40 in a couple of days. She just needs a little.
Bob the Drag Queen
Whoa. Go. This zoom in is crazy. She looks so stunning.
Monet X Change
Yeah. Don't even look like her.
Bob the Drag Queen
It don't.
Monet X Change
That's.
Bob the Drag Queen
Honestly, I'm so happy to live in a time where we. I mean, this. This isn't accessible because I'm sure This
Monet X Change
costs, like $200,000 for a facelift from this doctor.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. So it's not accessible, but we live in a time where this is possible. Is nice. So which means in like 10 or Jake and want to mute. Oh, no, that's Trinity. So 10 and 15 years when we need to do it, it'll be way cheaper.
Monet X Change
Yeah. Hopefully by the time I'm. I'm, like 60, and I could look 30 again.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I'm doing it. I am. I. I'm up in that. In that doctor's chair. Make me young, girl.
Monet X Change
I. I'm. I'm seriously thinking of in the new year, because I'm. I don't know if I told you this. I'm planning on moving to LA in March. Yes. I gotta get out of a red state. I got. I just. I'M done with it. So I'm selling my house. I'm gonna move to LA after I get settled. I. I think I want to go get FFS work bitch.
Bob the Drag Queen
And. Oh, so wait, not. Not foot. Not on your feet.
Monet X Change
No, on my. On my face. I wanna, I wanna see. That'll be the first step to see if I wanna progress even more with other things. Okay. But if I. That'll be the telltale. If I wanna be other than in between.
Bob the Drag Queen
Got it. Oh. Oh, that's major. Yeah. Get.
Monet X Change
Get things cut off. I want to have my silicone removed. I want everything. I want to look like Lindsay Lohan and, and Christine Aguilera or. Honey, I'm a dm. That doctor. Do you do discounts? A payment plan?
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, there's this, this doctor that I, that he's coming out on a future episode of my show. Monet Talks. He's gonna be. His name is Patrick Davis. He's a big Beverly Hills facial plastic surgeon. And he was. And I don't know. Do you follow Neo or do you. It's on TikTok. Her name is Neo It Girl.
Monet X Change
I don't think so.
Bob the Drag Queen
She's a trans woman, a model living in New York. And she. And she like. And she talks about like the surgery and her. I mean, she looks amazing. And she kind of goes down the list of all these surgeries, these facial surgery that that Lindsay and Donato and all these people have probably done. And it's.
Monet X Change
You know your wife.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, her.
Monet X Change
And she's gorge. I'm gonna follow her.
Bob the Drag Queen
Beautiful. She's beautiful. On her. Tick tock later you should watch a video. She talks about like all the surgeries and that she's done to her face and what she. And I'm like, honestly, it's, it's it. She said the one that it looks like is the deep. Do you know?
Monet X Change
It's like the deep, clean, plain facial. Yeah. Facelift. Yeah, Facelift. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I'm like. Cause that's when you go under the muscle and not just surface. Cause she's like, bitch, you do this and in five years when it's out to fall, then you get like a fucking Nike swoosh. You gotta go under girl. Under the muscle and pull all of it tight.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I need to get the foot lift of the face.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, wait, so you're in drag. You're on where you at right now?
Monet X Change
So I'm in London, Canada right now. So I, I'm in face because I have to do this podcast. I have to do one More podcast and rehearsal before we do meet and greet at 6. Work.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wait, rehearsal? Work.
Monet X Change
Yeah, with. You know how they do. They make us do one number with dancers and, you know, I'm gonna do a one, two step.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was Christmas store. I'm so. I. I. I want to do another crowd. I need to hit a mermaid. Peter. Be like, hey, guys, let's bury the hatchet by going through.
Monet X Change
I thought you already did because you came back for another one.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I did come back for another one. We did. We did bury the hatchet, actually. But I would love to come and honestly just pop on for a few days, because what I miss most about the Marin Peter tours and any big tours is just the vibe of all the girls together and everyone being messy and silly and fun. I miss that.
Monet X Change
Yeah. This is the first day of the tour. We just.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, is it?
Monet X Change
Yeah, we just got to Canada today, so the first one, so we'll see how it goes. I like the cast. There's nobody that's, like, too loud,
Narrator/Host
because
Monet X Change
you know me, I'll be on the bus and get in my bunk, and I'm in.
Bob the Drag Queen
Sure, girl. The show gets done. Trinity, first of all, she takes her makeup off in, like, two fucking minutes, and she packs up the bag, goes onto the bus, into a bunk. You don't see Trinity until the next day when we get into the venue.
Monet X Change
Yep. That's why I get along with people.
Bob the Drag Queen
Except when she started doing edibles and I met her on the tour bus.
Monet X Change
Oh, now that. That has been fun. You. Heidi Jan, girl, when I'm. When I'm touring with y', all, bitch, y' all be getting me. That's the only time I am social.
Bob the Drag Queen
When you got a little edible idiot. Yeah, girl. Howie, how is. Wait, also. So when you post it on Thanksgiving. So this was where your was your drag dad and your. And your drag mother. Were they not friends?
Monet X Change
No. So they are friends, but my drag father lives in Florida, and my drag mother, she lives in New Jersey, so they. They're. They're never in the same area and.
Bob the Drag Queen
Got it, got it, got it.
Monet X Change
My drag mother came to stay with me for, like, the holiday season, and.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, cute.
Monet X Change
So that was the first time we ever had them to, like, in the same room, basically.
Bob the Drag Queen
All right, cute. Yeah, yeah, cute. I was like, oh, is Trinity help healing? Is she healing her drag family by having them in the. In the same place together, like, a thing?
Monet X Change
Oh, no, no.
Narrator/Host
They.
Monet X Change
They totally get along. They just, you know, one lives on, like, way up northeast and one lives in Florida, so.
Bob the Drag Queen
Got it. Yeah. Are you.
Jacob
Are you big. We have. We have breaking drag news that I would see your reactions to if you just give me one second.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, breaking news. Breaking news. Oh, the. The. Oh, that. Who is that?
Monet X Change
That's Nymphia.
Bob the Drag Queen
That looks sick.
Monet X Change
Oh, my gosh. This reminds me of All Star seven. Kinda.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes. Because, like, it's like. Okay, so Nymphia, y'. All. You're seeing pictures of it. This Nymphia look, she's like. She's basically a nude bodysuit. And I guess the. The theme is water, and it's just, like, water thing pouring around her. That look, that is a. That is a really cool look, girl.
Monet X Change
She has somebody's dead grandmother's urn on top of her head pouring out water. Bitch, I am living.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's so fucking co. Gorgeous.
Monet X Change
And that's actual water. It looks like she's literally wet. Her pussy is wet.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, they're walking. Yeah, they look like they're walking on a Runway of water.
Jacob
This is for the intro for the Meet the queens for season 17.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, this is the intro for the Meet the queens of season 17.
Monet X Change
That is fierce. Gorgeous.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's. Look, see, this is what I mean. When, like, girl, you don't always have to reference a thing like, this bitch created this. This is such. And now fashion is gonna probably kind of try to recreate this. Like, this is a. Not. Unless it is something. Watch me be completely wrong. This is a recreation of something. People are gonna be like, no, you stupid. Not fashion, bitch. This is a recreation of something. But I don't know.
Jacob
It.
Bob the Drag Queen
It looks cool to me.
Monet X Change
Well, the tea is. Jacob, I sent you something. Me and Chantel will be doing a review of this season work, and
Jacob
we
Monet X Change
heard about the theme and recreated our own versions of a look. Like, we both. She made her look, I made my look, and it's in the theme of the.
Bob the Drag Queen
The Meet the Queens.
Monet X Change
The. The promo. Yeah, the promo. The promo.
Bob the Drag Queen
Ooh. Okay, y' all heard it here. Trinity and Shanta Sparkles will be reviewing this season of RuPaul's Drag Race season 17.
Monet X Change
Yep.
Bob the Drag Queen
Cute. Oh, that's gonna be. So. I can't wait to see how you interpreted water. I can't wait. I know it's. I know it's gonna be ridiculous.
Monet X Change
Well, mine is more like ruffles and stuff to kind of get, you know, be like water. But Chantel's is. She's a mermaid, basically. Work.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, let's. Let's take a break, and we'll talk a little bit.
Monet X Change
More.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let's take a little break. I want to talk a little bit about the theme, honey. Okay, well. Cause also, Chantel is an incredible seamstress, and I know that because of you. Like, I've seen, like, the things she's made for you, and then I've seen the things on her own she's made. She's an incredible seamstress.
Monet X Change
She made one of the girls almost her entire package and then made some stuff for one of the other girls and both of their entire hair package. Chantel is absolutely incredible. I cannot believe she's not been on Drag Race yet. Yeah, she's like one of those, like, multi talented queens. Yeah, girl. I feel like she's better at drag than me.
Bob the Drag Queen
Where's the question? Did you teach Chantel or. She came with these skills.
Monet X Change
Chantel and I met when she, like, within the first year of her doing Dragon. We met because she auditioned to be a backup dancer for Andy Bell from Erasure when I was touring with that before Drag Race.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I remember this. Sorry. Yeah.
Monet X Change
And she. We cast her as a dancer and she was a little rough around the edges, but she was a hairstylist, so she already kind of knew the basics of, like, wigs and stuff, and she knew the basics of makeup and stuff. So, like, I just helped her finesse a little bit.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay.
Monet X Change
And taught her the basics of sewing. And girl, she just has, like, turned that out and is the best at hair, the best at sewing, the best at makeup out of. Yeah. The two of us, like, she's just way better.
Bob the Drag Queen
Got it. Work. Well, I think the Meet the Queens is coming out today, right, Jacob? Or is it out already?
Jacob
Yeah, right now, as we're recording this episode, so we can talk about it a little bit, I guess. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe we should wait. I don't know what they are, but I think we can talk about the general cast list because it will be the time this episode debuts.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. Yeah. So the cast list, bitch. You have basically two drag children on this season.
Monet X Change
Yes. So I have my drag daughter, Sam Star, who is from Birmingham, where I'm originally from. She's like good old Southern pageant queen. Her. Her drag is kind of old school for her to be so young.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
Very charismatic. And then Chantel has a drag daughter, which is my jewel. I'm a. I'm a drag glam maw. And Jules is like this cute, like, very current skinny fashion Puerto Rican girl from. From Tampa. She's. She's really bubbly. Very, very bubbly. I'm Trying to think of what she reminds me a little bit of Valentina mixed with Gigi. Gigi, good, good. That kind of girl. Like very young, very fresh, very fashion, very like supermodel.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, work. So we. There, there, there are, there are lots of odds that another crown is coming to the Tuck Dynasty.
Monet X Change
Yeah, we'll see. Hopefully, I mean, girl, maybe a little bit of me is like, hopefully not. So they can't rub it in my face. They won on their first try. But I did help with sending them every kind of contact that they needed, you know? You know, like a good grandmother. Mother. Mother does. Yeah, we get them together. I did sign an NDA.
Bob the Drag Queen
You said you said. You said you did.
Monet X Change
I did. I had to because I was, I can't. I don't want to reveal too much, but I was part of one little thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Got it, got it, got it, got it.
Monet X Change
But I had to sign an NDA anyway.
Bob the Drag Queen
Work well, you know, I mean, this cast looks really dope. I am genuinely excited for the season. Kind of like how I felt about season 16. I was like. And I love the energy I saw in the promo for that and made me excited for the season. And it was a good season. And I feel that about the season too. It looks strong. It looks good.
Monet X Change
I feel like it's all really young girls. Really young, very young.
Bob the Drag Queen
The oldest person is 33, girl.
Monet X Change
Really young. And then I know that there's gonna be a lot of drama.
Bob the Drag Queen
A lot.
Monet X Change
Uh huh.
Bob the Drag Queen
But so we've seen your. Your home bitch on when we've done podcasts before and I feel like. And you have a lot of decoration or you have. Your home is like nicely put together. Your library experience. Do you, do you go in for Christmas? Are you like a. You like, go wild?
Monet X Change
I have eight Christmas trees.
Bob the Drag Queen
Trinity. Eight Christmas trees, girl.
Monet X Change
I have a five bedroom house. Yeah, I have eight. I have one in my foyer, one in my office library, one in my bedroom, one in my guest b bedroom, one in my other guest bedroom, one the main one in the living room, one in the kitchen and one
Jacob
one
Monet X Change
at my front door outside.
Bob the Drag Queen
That is insane, girl.
Monet X Change
Yeah, but I didn't decorate this year because I'm on the tour. So I was like, girl. And my boyfriend, he can't, he, he is not a decorator.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I cannot, I, I cannot imagine Joey trying to decorate.
Monet X Change
No, girl. I mean he would, but it would be like hodgepodge.
Bob the Drag Queen
See, that's my thing about, about holidays and decorating is the act of just doing it. I'm like, like I wish I could just pay someone to come out and do it and then take it down when it's time because. But people like that. People, like, enjoy, like, oh, playing music and drinking eggnog and hanging the reef. I'm putting the garlic. I don't like that. I just want it to come. And it's all done.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I. I regret it, having eight Christmas trees. I think what I'm going to do is when I move, I might just give all of my Christmas decorations, other than, like, one tree to peg, because we can use them. Like, the girls can use them for props and stuff for. Yeah. When they shoot Christmas stuff.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, yeah, that's. That. That's. That's a really good idea. Yeah. My. My, my. Andy, he likes to decorate. Like, we're. This year I'm gonna be recovering from surgeries. I was like, we'll see if I even participate. But this year, where he's having, like, a decorating party, which I never understood those because. So people are coming over and helping you decorate and, like, it's just an
Monet X Change
excuse to drink, honestly.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, he don't drink.
Monet X Change
Oh, well, that is boring.
Bob the Drag Queen
So. Okay.
Monet X Change
Well, it's just an excuse for you to drink and watch, Honestly.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm gonna put a Sitting there with my feet up. Just an edible. An edible. And I'm having a fucking mushroom edible. Not even a weed one. I'm gonna be really on Mars.
Monet X Change
Um, yeah, give your kitty one.
Bob the Drag Queen
There's also, like. What is a. What is a tree trimming? You ever heard of a tree trimming party? Why is my camera blurry? There we go. Like, the tree trimming party is dick. What is it? Do you know what that is? What's a tree trimming party?
Monet X Change
That I do that at least once a week.
Bob the Drag Queen
Tree trimming party. What is it? A tree trimming party? Yeah.
Jacob
I mean, I'm Jewish, so I have no actual experience with that, but I can do a quick search and let you know what I found.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, like, it's a. It's also known as a tree decorating party. So, like, I guess, like, trim. Like, you put, like, trim on a. On an outfit. Like, trim. Like that. I thought it was, like, trimming the tree.
Monet X Change
Literally.
Bob the Drag Queen
What? I'm. I'm an idiot. Okay, whatever. Have you ever celebrated anything besides Christmas? Like Hanukkah or Kwanzaa?
Monet X Change
Me? No, I would, but I. You know, I grew up in the. The. The deep south, girl. There ain't nothing but a bunch of, like, snake kissers out there, honey. Evangelicals.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I do that. At least once a week, too.
Monet X Change
Kisses. Oh, at least once a week.
Bob the Drag Queen
At least once a week.
Monet X Change
But no, I've never. I've never. I don't know. I don't really have too many friends that live close to me that are of different religious backgrounds that celebrate stuff. I would totally. Though. I would love to know more. I know that on Christmas tours in the past, Alexis. Michelle is Jewish, so we would do it. And Ms. Cracker, we would do, like, the lighting of the menorah. Menorah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.
Jacob
On.
Bob the Drag Queen
On the Chris. On. On a tourist. On a Christmas store, Ms. Cracker would bring a menorah on the bus, and she would. And. And we would all light one of the One. A light every night.
Monet X Change
Leaving.
Bob the Drag Queen
Leading up to Kwanzaa. Yeah. I mean, growing up, I always wanted to celebrate Kwanzaa because I grew up. I grew up in Brooklyn. I have a lot. I had a lot of Jewish friends and people in my schools and stuff. And I would always. Because, like, I was like, bitch, you got eight days of gifts. Like, as a young kid, I. I wanted to celebrate qualms. Cause I wanted the gifts. I was like, that's fierce. Like, you're. I was like, so every year you're guaranteed a minimum of eight gifts. Bitch work.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
Well, we get eight inches at least, so. Of snow. Of snow. We're in. You know, it's Canada.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, God. Is it snowing up there? Oh, I hate snow.
Monet X Change
It's not snowing, but it is. It is frigid.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, can you see that girl? Oh, yes, I can.
Monet X Change
She is snowy.
Bob the Drag Queen
Don't miss that. Don't miss that. I also. I'm also never. I don't think I've ever met anyone who celebrates Kwanzaa. Like, I have never come across.
Monet X Change
What exactly is that?
Bob the Drag Queen
So Kwanzaa was an African, diasporic American holiday. I think it started in the 1980s. Jacob, can you fact check that? I believe it's the 1980s where it was to celebrate there were. Each day is a principle. And I'm gonna.
Jacob
1966.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, 1966. In the 1960s. And each day has a principal. There's like, Ujima ujama, Nia Nia Imani kujujakalela. And I forget the other ones, but it's a principle. And, like, each day you. Do you light a menorah? Well, it's not called a menorah. It's called something else. The.
Jacob
I believe it's a kinara.
Bob the Drag Queen
The kinara. There we go. The Kinara. You light the canara for each day, and you celebrate each of those words means something, right? Imani means faith, and you celebrate that. Oh, there we go. Umoja, Kujujakalela, Ujima, Nia, Kumba, and Imani. And each one. So umoja is unity. Kuchujakalela's self determination. Ujima is collective work. Ujama is cooperative economics. Nia's purpose. Kumba is creativity and Imani's faith. And each day you celebrate the traditions or you celebrate the things around those words with your.
Monet X Change
But you better know how to pronounce, honey. I would have butchered that. Okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
And it's always sound. It honestly has sounded great, but I've never met anyone else who has done it. And I was like, but also, that doesn't mean that I can't do it and start that tradition in my life. So maybe, maybe, maybe I will start celebrating Kwanzaa. Maybe.
Monet X Change
And do you get gifts?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, but I think they're supposed to be gifts that you make and gifts that you create.
Monet X Change
I don't want it. I don't want it. I don't want it. Joey. No. Joey can't. No, he cannot make. No, I don't want it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Joey coming to you with just a bowl of sticks. You like, girl?
Monet X Change
Nuh. No. It's the thought that counts as wrong. I want. I want gifts.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Tea. What? What? You know what y' all should do on the tour? Like, y' all should do like a. Like a white elephant gift exchange with all the girls on the tour.
Monet X Change
Oh, that would be cute, right? Yeah, that's like a. Like a Secret Santa, basically. Exactly, yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Secret Santa. That would be cute.
Monet X Change
That would be cute.
Bob the Drag Queen
But also, people come on and off the tour, so maybe it wouldn't be like, you have to, like, you know, it would kind of be hard to do it, I guess. Unless if you're not on the tour for the whole time, the white elephant
Jacob
is the one where you steal, isn't it?
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, is that. I don't know the difference.
Jacob
Like, everybody gets a gift and you open a gift and then you have a chance to open a new gift or steal somebody else's already opened gift.
Monet X Change
Gift. Oh, they do that. That's something. They do that in Joey's families when the adults, they will do a. The. They don't call it that, but that's what it is.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'll be like. I'm like, all right, get. Get. Get these kids in here too, because I will steal your gift.
Monet X Change
Last year, Joey's family, he was like. Because I was. I got. We have to switch. We have to have one person that we buy a gift for, and then you can steal gifts. So the person I drew was like, one of his cousins or something. Like some real butch man. And I'm like, I don't know what to buy. So I bought, like, this camping knife set. It was like the butcher's thing. It was like camo. And I was like, this is the butcher's thing. I can think of. I would never. But I was like, some straight man would love this. And Joey is like, oh, they're going to hate that. I'm like, watch. You just watch. And the guy opened it up and he was like, oh, this is amazing. And then all the straight men at the thing were like, oh, my God, this is the best gift ever. And so they kept trying to steal it from each other. I said. I told him. I was like, I told you work vids.
Bob the Drag Queen
You better.
Narrator/Host
You.
Bob the Drag Queen
You. You. You said. You said. You said the bar high. That's fair. Look at you.
Monet X Change
Like, I grew up around rednecks, okay? I know.
Bob the Drag Queen
My friend is doing one. My friend and his partner is their first Christmas together, and they. To his partner's family's house. Family. So he's telling me. So, yeah, so we're doing, like, a secret Santa white elephant thing. And I was like, oh, cute. I was like, what's, like, the limit? Like, because, you know, normally. Normally the ones I've seen, like, the limit is like $30. Maybe $50 is crazy. The minimum price for the white elephant gift is a hundred bucks. But again, right. That seems crazy for a gift exchange.
Monet X Change
Yeah, crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
And it's a big family. So I was like, yeah, these motherfuckers must have money if they're like, the minimum is $100.
Monet X Change
No, ours is 50.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, 50 feels fair. I've been to the ones. They're normally like 20. They're normally 30, girl. But $100 minimum, that's. That's. That's wild.
Monet X Change
That is crazy. Girl. They are expecting the most, honey.
Bob the Drag Queen
I know, I know. I was like, oh, shit. Okay, $100 gift exchange. That's insane. Interesting. I haven't had a Christmas home in so long. Like, growing up, my family, we used to all get together at my family's house in Brookwell. Before 10, it was in St. Lucia. And then when I grew up, when I moved to New York, we'd all get to my family's house in Brooklyn. And I have a big family, so we'd all get together. It Was like, all the kids open and stuff. It was crazy. But now that we're all older and everyone has. Now my brother's married, he has their own family, and then. And so now we don't even do that anymore. So I don't ever really have a Christmas. I don't have any Christmas traditions anymore.
Monet X Change
So you don't go to his family, so.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, so we've. The first year we're together, we went to Denver, but. So his brother's. His brother went away with his girlfriend that year, so me and Andy watched his nephew in Denver at, like, their house. So that was, like, our first Christmas together. And then the next year, his entire family was in Denver, So we did that. And what did we do last year? Oh, last year we just did it at my. At the new house in la. And this year we're just. We're kind of doing the same thing. We're gonna do like, a. Friends are gonna come over. We're gonna do a gift exchange thing, and that's. And that's. That's our plans this year.
Monet X Change
Cute. That's good.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Be cute.
Monet X Change
I. I get home on Christmas Eve, and normally we go to Joey's families in Connecticut, but this year, I was like, I. After this election, I was like, I know some of them voted for Trump, so I. I don't want to be around them. So I was like, I'm gonna stay at home with the dogs and the cat, and you can go,
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my God. How's your cat doing?
Monet X Change
She is a demon girl. A demon. Like, she. One thing I've learned, because I've had cats in the past, but they were outside cats. One thing I've learned about, like, indoor cats, they would. They do things on their terms. Like. Like, a dog will listen to you. Like, sit, stay. A cat will not. A cat will do whatever the. They want to do. That is true.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Cats don't. Don't they. They do it. They do whatever they want.
Monet X Change
And she, like, cuddles sometimes, but, like, she's a d. She's a villain. She's literally a villain.
Bob the Drag Queen
Does she play nicely with your dogs?
Monet X Change
She loves Bobo, which is my speckled Frenchie.
Bob the Drag Queen
Huh?
Monet X Change
She. They love each other. They love. The. The only one she doesn't really get along with is Snooki, but Snooki's my miniature pincher, and she's like, the oldest dog, and she doesn't like any of the dogs.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. Because she's like. She's so old. She's like, girl, just Leave me alone. I want to get up and nap and eat and shit and like.
Monet X Change
Got it. Got it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Is there a Christmas movie that you like to watch? I don't have any. There are so many now on Netflix. There are so many like little like Christmas holiday movies. But I like older traditional ones. Like, I like. I love A Christmas Story. That one with the leg lamp, I love. This might be. I don't know if people know this one. It's the Jackson Frost. The one with Jacob. Jacob. What's the guy that played the Batman? Is it Michael Keaton?
Jacob
He was one of them.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, yeah. There's a movie where he plays someone's dad who does like Christmas magic that turns him into a snowman. And I love that Christmas movie. It's so cute and it's so sweet.
Monet X Change
My all time favorite Christmas movie is To Grandmother's House we go in 1992.
Bob the Drag Queen
He's called Jack Frost. There we go. Huh?
Monet X Change
The Olsen Twins.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wait, what is it called?
Monet X Change
To Grandmother's. To Grandmother's House we go in from 1992. The Olsen twins.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let me look that up. Have I seen that? To Grandmother's House we go.
Monet X Change
They get like lost and, and all that, that stuff and. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, they were. They were babies, huh?
Monet X Change
And it was fierce, actually. I need to watch it. I'm gonna tell. I'm gonna tell Joey right now.
Bob the Drag Queen
We gotta watch this to grab the top. We go, girl. The Olsen's ones, they have been at it for decades. No wonder that they don't. They don't like to be the spotlight. They don't want to do. They don't want anything to do with celebrity besides making money quietly.
Monet X Change
They like that. And girl, they're making millions off of their, their fashion lines. Yeah, they still get residuals off of all their movies when they were kids.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Because back in the day a lot of people like, that's how these celebrities like, you know, because yes, movies did pay a lot. But you back then, you do get like back end like residuals. Like for example, the guy that, that voices that voiced Simba.
Monet X Change
Simba.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, yeah. His deal was either. It was either, hey, take this lump this like $2 million or whatever it was to do this or you can sign a deal for a lower pay, but residuals forever. And baby, the option B never has
Monet X Change
to do anything for the rest of his life.
Bob the Drag Queen
Ever.
Monet X Change
Never. And I don't think has.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, girl, he has. He was on. He was on Smart Guy. He was on the show. Smart Guy. Oh, he. He's the guy. Y'.
Monet X Change
All.
Bob the Drag Queen
Who plays the brother on Smart Guy?
Monet X Change
I know who that is.
Bob the Drag Queen
It was an old show, and I think abc. I don't remember about this. Like, smart kid that went to high school, whatever, and then. But he played the brother on that. And he did. He did some other things. He was in Drumline with Nick Cannon back in the day. But. Yeah, but his parents were like, no, no, we're gonna take this option, which is a gamble, right? Cause what if the movie's a dud? It doesn't do well.
Monet X Change
Apparently, that's what Disney thought it was going to be, a dud gag. They thought it was going to be a dud, and it ended up being one of their most lucrative movies ever.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, bitch. That became a Broadway show, girl. That movie has. Yes. Lion King fucking did that. Tobey Maguire also did that, too. He was in the first. Toby Maguire was in the first. He was the first Spider man movie that we saw. And he signed a deal to get paid like that as well. And so he ended up making. Instead of making like, two or $3 million to the movie, he ended up making, like, $22 million from signing that type of deal. So, y', all, sometimes it ain't always in. It ain't always in the first number. Sometimes you gotta play. Have some people guiding you to play it, to play smarter, girl.
Narrator/Host
Smart.
Monet X Change
The long game, honey.
Bob the Drag Queen
The long game. And then, like, you look at someone like Tom Holland now, who is in Spider man, and he, you know, he gets, like, maybe like $3 million a movie. But Toby Maguire from all those. What, two decades ago now is still making money from those movies from, you know, because he. He sounded a good deal.
Monet X Change
Yep.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
I wish we were getting some sort of deal from Drag Race like that, honey. Go.
Bob the Drag Queen
What if? What? What if? What? What? What if that's what Chanel and B and them are getting. What. What if they signed a deal like that for the first season?
Monet X Change
Could you imagine? Well, let's. Let's be real. Let's be real about Drag. If we saw. If we. We. We see Drag, we see what everybody wears. And if they was making that kind of money, Biz. Let's be real.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, that would have been fears, though. Like, the first seasons, they're like, hey, y', all, we can't really pay you that much, but we can give you a stake in the show. And I try to think back then, what would I have done? The show would have been so new. I. If I'm thinking about it. Well, I don't know what they were Paid per episode. Cause obviously it's gone up over time. Even between season 8 and season 10, it was so diff. Sorry. Between season 10 and all stars 4, it was so different.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I don't know, but I think I probably would have. Probably went with the base. I probably would have. Option one. Not thinking that the show would be huge. And as big as it has become,
Monet X Change
I think, well, I mean, they probably got paid $50 an episode, girl. So I probably would have been like, girl, okay, give me the stake in the show if it gets going.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, true.
Monet X Change
They only won, what, $25,000?
Bob the Drag Queen
Not even those $10,000 now, bitch. That's like.
Monet X Change
That's.
Narrator/Host
That.
Monet X Change
That.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's.
Monet X Change
That's a. That's a challenge win.
Bob the Drag Queen
I know, girl. Yeah. Yeah. Do you. Do you like creating Christmas mixes?
Monet X Change
No, but I. I do have a new Christmas song coming out on the 11th. It was a last minute decision to do it for the Christmas tour. And it's called. It's a Wrap, and it's another bitter Christmas song about. This one is about someone who lost their job and so they become a gift wrapper and their ex boyfriend cheated on them with a twink at the mall. And, you know, they're trying to find happiness in the fact that the year is almost over.
Bob the Drag Queen
Trinity, you have. I feel like you have a huge discography. You have so much music.
Monet X Change
I know most of it should be thrown away, but lately though, working with Drew, the new music producer. He's so good. He's really good.
Bob the Drag Queen
He's good. Girl, you have so much music. Like, let me go to Trinity. Spotify, you probably have. How many albums do you have at this point?
Monet X Change
I have. I think I have full albums. I have probably four.
Bob the Drag Queen
You have a bunch of singles.
Monet X Change
I have a bunch of singles. I have an ep, this new Christmas song that comes out.
Bob the Drag Queen
You better work.
Monet X Change
But I'm probably not gonna be doing any more music. But I will say the reason why I'm doing this kind of stuff is because it's gimmicky. And a lot of TV shows and movies and stuff like that will use your music. I've had I Call Shade in a TV show. I have had one of my songs from my first album in a TV show. So you do stuff like that and you could get residuals from those.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, yeah. I've had. I've had a few placements. I mean, a few. I had like two. I've had. Beyonce was in the TV show. And I think. I think Beyonce got placed twice. It was in Two shows. My song Beyonce, that's serious. And yeah, and it's cute. And you get like, and you get like a cute little check and, and when, and you get also residual payments from that too. So that's, that's nice. When you know what you should do?
Monet X Change
You should, you should re release like an EP of your favorite songs that you've done, but as opera songs. Can you imagine, bitch, I'm Beyonce as an opera song. Bitch.
Narrator/Host
Check me up.
Monet X Change
Yes. Bitch. That would be so fierce.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's actually a good idea. That'd be cute. That'll be cute. Okay.
Monet X Change
And it's already content. You already own and done. So you just have to reconfigure how it's, it's saying and like get like,
Bob the Drag Queen
and get like a full orchestra to like play the fucking music.
Monet X Change
Yeah. And you may, you maybe you could even do like a whole full like tour show with it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh God. Girl, let me tell you something. After my tour in January, I'm done. I want to my 2025, I mean we're going to holiday, New year's, whatever. My 2025 dream. I'm, I'm just doing standup shows and I'm doing like focus in on like other things like my Monat talk show. I, I, I, I, I texted Trinity last night. I was like, I have an idea for us to do something that I want to do together that I want us to do. So like I want to focus on things like that.
Monet X Change
But are you gonna tell me what that is?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes. Well, I don't wanna say it on camera. I wanna, I'll tell you on camera.
Monet X Change
Oh, okay, okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, but if you move to LA, that'
Monet X Change
yeah, I 100% AM and it'll be like probably late March. My goal for 2025, besides the move is I'm gonna be working on like a one woman comedy show work. Just because girl, these people be asking you all the time, do you have a one woman show? You have an hour, one woman hour show. That's what people want. So I'm working on that now and we'll see, we'll see what happens with that.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh well, girl, I, I, I have this advice. When I moved to la, I lived in East Hollywood, which is on the other side of the hill. Like, you know, and I love that and that was cute. But moving into the Valley a, you get more space, you have a lot of. Because you had a five bedroom home and you can get more bang for your buck in the Valley as opposed to trying to Be in Hollywood over there.
Narrator/Host
Yeah.
Monet X Change
I think I'm going to, like, Burbank. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm literally. I'm literally two minutes away from pg.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
And it's great.
Monet X Change
I love it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
That's what I think I'm gonna do. I. I've got. I don't. I don't know that I'm gonna buy anything in California right now. Girl, I don't. I don't know about you, but I don't like being a homeowner. It is a lot. It's always something or always something. I've had to. I've lived in this house for six years, and I've already had to replace my air conditioning unit. I've had to replace both my washer and dryer and refrigerator in six years.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, that is wild. Yeah. It's being a homeowner, but that is not for the faint of heart. It is always something. And, bitch, you can't call a landlord because you are the landlord. You can't. Like, if, like, literally I left. As I left to come here, the microwave started being crazy. Like some error code. I'm looking at how to fix this error code, and it's, like, built into the thing. So you can't just, like, unplug it in the wall. It's. Girl, I was like, you know what? Just fucking leave it. I'll figure it out when you get back. I can't. It's always some shit like that.
Monet X Change
Yep. You might as well just turn that one into storage and buy a new one that goes on your countertop, bitch.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's how it's. That's how it be. Anyway, Trinity, thank you so much for coming back on the pod. Listen, y'. All. For the next season, Trinity and Shanta Sparkles, we will. They will be reviewing RuPaul's Drag Race Season 17, so make sure y' all tune. So I'm sure it's gonna be so fun. I'm gonna be watching. It's gonna be so fun.
Monet X Change
And we have tea. We have tea. We have tea.
Bob the Drag Queen
Y' all have inside tea.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I will definitely be tuning in every week. It's gonna be so fucking good.
Monet X Change
Fierce. Thanks for having me again.
Bob the Drag Queen
Thank you, girl.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Thank you for. Thank you for doing it and taking the time. We appreciate it.
Monet X Change
Of course. Bye.
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Release Date: December 9, 2024
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change (with special guest Trinity the Tuck)
This festive episode of Sibling Rivalry brings Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change together with special guest Trinity the Tuck for a laughter-filled, lively, and sometimes unexpected deep dive into everything Christmas. The trio swaps hilarious personal stories, shares frank takes on surgery and drag scene gossip, dishes about reality competition shows, and offers musings on holiday traditions—queer and otherwise. Whether reminiscing about early drag days, unsavory guacamole, or navigating family holidays, the chemistry and comedy flow freely, making this episode a delightful listen even beyond the holiday season.
Shoe Shopping Woes:
"I'm a women's 14... I have to order my shoes because my feet are so big." — Bob [05:05]
Drag Family Pride:
"Maybe a little bit of me is like, hopefully not so they can't rub it in my face they won on their first try." — Trinity [36:09]
Holiday Decorating Regret:
"I regret it, having eight Christmas trees... when I move, I might just give all of my Christmas decorations, other than like, one tree, to Peg." — Trinity [38:55]
On Hanukkah & Christmas:
"On a Christmas tour, Ms. Cracker would bring a menorah on the bus... and we would all light one every night." — Bob [41:45]
On Kwanzaa:
"It honestly has sounded great, but I’ve never met anyone else who has done it." — Bob [44:10]
Gift Exchange Strategy:
"I got... this camping knife set. It was like camo. And... all the straight men at the thing were like, ‘Oh my God, this is the best gift ever!’" — Trinity [46:43]
Taking Risks in Showbiz:
"[Simba’s voice actor’s] option B, never has to do anything for the rest of his life." — Monet [53:06]
The entire episode maintains a candid, biting-yet-affectionate style. Banter is irreverent, sometimes raucous, always supportive, and deeply rooted in both personal experience and drag world lore. Listeners unfamiliar with the drag scene will enjoy the engaging storytelling and humor; seasoned fans will appreciate all the insider tidbits and affectionate roasting.
This episode is a treat for Sibling Rivalry fans and anyone craving queer holiday cheer with a heavy side of drag reality, showbiz know-how, and friendship goals. Don’t miss Trinity and Shanta Sparkles’ upcoming Drag Race S17 reviews—clearly, there’s plenty of tea still to spill.