The One About Colorism

Summary

Sibling Rivalry: "The One About Colorism"

Release Date: March 8, 2023
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change

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Episode Overview

In this engaging and hilarious episode, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change dive into the complicated, nuanced topic of colorism within the Black community and beyond. They approach the subject with their signature humor and candor, sharing personal stories, cultural commentary, and sharp social insight. From childhood experiences and pop culture references to global perspectives and personal growth, the conversation is loaded with both laughter and depth.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Birthday Drama & Drag Queen Banter

Starts at 01:00

• The episode opens with playful drama over missed birthday invitations and group chats.
• Monét describes her birthday paintball adventure, complete with battle wounds, and Bob laments not being invited (despite evidence to the contrary).
  • Notable Quote:
    “Well, nice of Andy to invite me to something when I wasn’t in town.” — Bob (02:38)

2. Nerd Culture & Drag Life

Starts at 06:00

• Discussion turns to random drag queen possessions like swords and comic/fantasy weapons from Comic Cons.
• Both hosts reflect on Halloween, cosplay, and the difference between queer and straight costuming.
• Video games: Bob and Monét debate Zelda: Breath of the Wild vs. God of War, and recount their rivalry in Super Smash Bros.
  • Notable Quote:
    “Sometimes, you just gotta get your ass out there. It’s like no one wants to work anymore.” — Bob (15:55)

3. Black Streamers and Gaming Spaces

Starts at 18:37

• Monét raises the topic of Black streamers' visibility on TikTok and social platforms.
• Bob highlights prominent figures like IShowSpeed and SonicFox, championing diversity in gaming.
  • Notable Quote:
    “The gamer of the year was a Ishowspeed… Ishowspeed is a massive, massive gamer.” — Bob (19:22)

4. Defining Colorism in Their Lives

Starts at 19:46

• Bob provocatively asks Monét: “Are you team light-skinned or team dark-skinned?” (19:46)
• Both share when they first became conscious of colorism—Monét in high school, Bob from early childhood.
• Discussion of color classifications: "light skin," "dark skin," "high yellow," "red bone," and regional differences.
  • Notable Quote:
    “I am like darker skinned than most Black people I know. And I definitely got a lot of shit as a kid for being dark skinned.” — Bob (21:48)

5. Personal Stories and Cultural Context

Starts at 22:35

• Bob recounts being nicknamed “Blackie” in all-Black schools, and illustrates the internalized biases present even in Black spaces.
• He shares vivid experiences of racism and colorism growing up in the South and in Alabama, versus Monét’s more insulated upbringing in St. Lucia, where colorism wasn’t as overt or pronounced.
  • Notable Quote:
    “They would say it to our faces… they’d call us all kinds of N words... it just immediately turned racist. Like, immediately.” — Bob (24:24)

6. Pop Culture: Representation & Controversy

Starts at 27:32

• The hosts unpack issues of colorism in the entertainment industry—Nina Simone biopic controversy with Zoe Saldana, Beyoncé’s “Dream Girls” moment, Tyra Banks’ infamous “America’s Next Top Model” race-swapping challenge.
  • Notable Quotes:
    “Because Nina Simone was very dark skinned and Zoe Saldana… had to darken her skin. That was a very big controversy.” — Monét (27:32)
    “There’s the infamous Tyra Banks Top Model challenge… That was kind of wild.” — Bob (28:39)

7. History, Schooling, and Race Education

Starts at 29:53

• Bob reflects on attending Black schools in Georgia, where Black history was constantly taught—what some label now as "critical race theory."
• Discussion of Morgan Freeman’s controversial comments on Black History Month and the complexities of “not seeing color.”
  • Notable Quote:
    “If Barack Obama is affected by racism, then how is my Black ass safe?” — Bob (34:43)

8. Global Colorism: Latin America & Asia

Starts at 35:42

• The conversation examines colorism in Cuba, with Celia Cruz as an example, and the dynamic of “white flight.”
• Insight into skin tone hierarchies in Asian countries, referencing Kim Chi and Jasmine Rice’s experiences in Korea.
  • Notable Quote:
    “Colorism is not a uniquely American problem.” — Bob (36:22)

9. Mainstream Beauty: Role Models and Standards

Starts at 42:07

• Bob shares a powerful anecdote about Whoopi Goldberg’s confidence in her beauty despite public perceptions, and how internalized standards affected his self-image.

  • Notable Quote:
    “She was like, 'Do you ever wish you were beautiful?' And Whoopi Goldberg had to be like, 'I am beautiful.'” — Bob (42:58)

• Commentary on media representation: Vanessa Williams’ Miss America title being stripped (50:14), and the injustice involved.

10. Modern Colorism: Online and in Industry

Starts at 51:28

• How colorism currently shows up: online discourse (e.g., Chris Brown’s alleged club preferences), casting, and the entertainment business.
• Recognition of generational progress thanks to Gen Z; both agree colorism is decreasing but by no means gone.
  • Notable Quote:
    “These little Gen Z shits… they are gathering us and not letting us breathe a second… y’all keep it up.” — Bob (51:41)

11. Cultural Commentary: Blackness, Identity & Perception

Starts at 53:26

• Both describe awkward incidences with white acquaintances making ignorant comparisons about “how dark they get” during tanning.

  • Notable Quote:
    “I am Whoopi Goldberg’s complexion… so when a white person says they get as dark as me, I gag every time. That is…” — Bob (54:29)

• A lighter segment: debate over who “counts” as Black, based on cultural background and appearance (with references to Amber Rose, Mariah Carey, and Michael Jackson’s changing appearance).

  • Notable Quote:
    “Did you think Mariah Carey looks Black?” — Bob (57:33)

12. Generational Change & Hopes

Starts at 62:29

• The hosts ask each other: If you could do one thing today to combat colorism, what would it be?
• Monét: “Go to Brazil and make Nayara Justino the Brazilian queen for the next decade.”
• Bob: “I think it starts with kids and the way they perceive themselves… [I’d] not allow little kids to make fun of each other for the color of their skin.” (63:12)
  • Notable Quote:
    “I have a dream today that my four little children will one day be judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.” — Bob (as MLK, 64:29)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Exchanges

• On childhood insults:
  “And my nickname was still Blackie. Isn’t that crazy?” — Bob (21:48)
• On media controversy:
  “Because Nina Simone was very dark skinned and Zoe Saldana… had to darken her skin. That was a very big controversy.” — Monét (27:32)
• On privilege and racism:
  “If Barack Obama is affected by racism, then how is my Black ass safe?” — Bob (34:43)
• On generational change:
  “These little Gen Z shits…they are gathering us and not letting us breathe a second…and honestly, y’all keep it up.” — Bob (51:41)
• On tanner comparisons:
  “When a white person gets the gall, the unmitigated gall, to tell me that they get as black as me in the summer, I gag every time.” — Bob (55:09)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:00 – Birthday party drama & group chat receipts
• 08:00 – Comic Con cosplay & drag queens with swords
• 11:00 – Video game rivalries: Super Smash Bros., Zelda, God of War
• 18:37 – Black streamers & representation in gaming
• 19:46 – Defining colorism; light-skinned vs. dark-skinned
• 22:35 – "Blackie" nickname and experiences with intra-Black colorism
• 27:32 – Colorism in media: Nina Simone, Beyoncé, Tyra Banks
• 29:53 – Schooling, Black history, critical race theory
• 32:31 – Morgan Freeman’s critique of Black History Month
• 35:42 – Colorism & “white flight” in Cuba, Asia, and Brazil
• 42:07 – Beauty standards & Whoopi Goldberg’s interview
• 50:14 – Vanessa Williams & title controversies
• 51:28 – Modern forms of colorism in entertainment and clubs
• 53:26 – Colorism in casual white conversation (“tanning”)
• 57:33 – Celebrity identity: Amber Rose, Mariah Carey, Michael Jackson
• 62:29 – Hopes for combating colorism: children, role models, and empowerment

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Tone & Style

The conversation flows with rapid-fire wit, friendly shade, and deep social insight. Bob and Monét balance vulnerability and humor, challenging each other on tough subjects while laughing through the discussion. Their authenticity and chemistry bring the heavy topic of colorism to life with much-needed nuance, laughter, and hope for change.

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Closing Thoughts

Bob and Monét’s exploration of colorism is as much about their personal journeys as about the systemic forces at play. They emphasize progress, advocate for education and open dialogue, and acknowledge the complexities at the intersection of race, identity, culture, and perception.

You don't need to have listened to the episode to feel the resonance of this conversation—it's both entertaining and deeply enlightening.

Transcript

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[Monet X Change]

And I'm Monet X Change.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this is sibling rivalry. On this week's episode, we talk about the Burton crime family.

[Monet X Change]

We talk about colorism.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we find out what made Monet say this.

[Monet X Change]

Now I have a bone to pick with you, bitch. You black bitch. I have a bone to pick with you. And we find out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was also the same week that my mom told me that RuPaul was a man. And I was like, what is happening? I was like, y', all, come on. Someone gotta tell the truth in this house. Cause apparently we'll just to say anything. Monae. Happy belated birthday.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you, Bob. I wish you were there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wasn't invited.

[Monet X Change]

So cuz you were in New York City rehearsing, You don't know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, you don't know what I was doing.

[Monet X Change]

I do. I know exactly what you were doing. Because we had a meeting that the day before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All I'm saying is I wasn't invited. That's all I'm saying.

[Jacob]

No, Alan, that's not the truth.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wasn't invited.

[Jacob]

You absolutely were invited.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where?

[Monet X Change]

Thank you, Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will allow both of you to screenshot. Show me. Either one of you can show me where I was invited.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not Monet telling you I'm invited. When did I get invited?

[Monet X Change]

Great.

[Jacob]

Here is the text message from Andy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it to me? Is it to me.

[Jacob]

It is to both of us. Andy and Caldwell.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it to me, Andy?

[Jacob]

Caldwell.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, is it to me? Oh, Jacob Ritz. Mm, mm, mm. With the motherfucking receipts. Well, nice of Andy to invite me to something when I wasn't in town. Very, very friendly of Andy. Very friendly of Andy.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Very friendly.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob. That tasted like a caviar. Filet mignon. Branzino gnocchi, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Spell branzino. Spell branzino.

[Monet X Change]

B R, N I, N O. B, R, A, N, Z, I, N, O.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Define brand

[Monet X Change]

type of fish, honey. Anyway, Jacob, that was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And where is he native to? And where is it native to Thing

[Monet X Change]

I have ever experienced in my life? I am literally going to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where's the friends, you know? Native to.

[Monet X Change]

I am going to come in my pants right now. Thank you. Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where were you? Where were you on my birthday?

[Monet X Change]

Monet, Remember when I threw you a birthday party?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where were you on my birthday? Where were you?

[Jacob]

On a side note, I'm looking back at this text. Andy sent this at 5 in the morning. She'd been at work.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I was asleep. So. So what?

[Monet X Change]

So you don't read your text messages when you asleep.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And what was the date? And what was the date? What was the date?

[Monet X Change]

Who cares?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What was the date, Jacob? I want to know the date right now. What was the date? Oh, now you quiet now. I was like. You quiet. What was the date?

[Monet X Change]

I watched. I watched a compilation of the Bob the Dragon geek.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wanna know the date.

[Jacob]

January 30th.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, January motherfucking 30th. Wow. Anyway, there's some shade.

[Monet X Change]

My birthday was very fun. We went to. We went paintballing. We got 12 of us. We went paintballing. And honestly, Bob, you would fucking love paintball. It was so fun. I did not think it'd be that fun. It was so much fucking fun. I was like, we wanna go back and do, like, all the time. It was fucking dope. Anyone that has done paintballing before, you know, that shit was dope. I think Jacob would have a good time, too. I was afraid because, you know, you see things where you see it's gonna hurt you, but it really does not hurt. Especially if you wear, like, a thick sweater and, like, sweatpants. You don't feel the balls that you like that. And I thought it was so fun. Patty, you know, Patty gets real Mississippi when it got to things like this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I wouldn't hand no redneck a gun girl. I don't know.

[Jacob]

Didn't Patty get shot in the face. No, Somebody got shot in the face. I know. Assad's boyfriend got shot in the ear.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Assad's boyfriend got shot in the air and Andy got shot in his head. But that's. That's about it. Everyone else got shot.

[Jacob]

Oh, yeah. Andy was bleeding. Cause it missed the.

[Monet X Change]

I heard that.

[Jacob]

Bleeding.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm out bleeding.

[Monet X Change]

He had a bruise.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y' all niggas always bleeding.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway, so it was a lot of fun. And your arch nemesis, Jenny Jaffe was there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you stop this narrative? Would you stop this?

[Monet X Change]

Your arch nemesis.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you stop? Would you stop? Stop.

[Monet X Change]

Jenny and Jacob are good friends now.

[Jacob]

Oh, yeah. I was just at her birthday party. It was really fun.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's this? Jenny and her little husband get whoops. Ok.

[Monet X Change]

I love Jenny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think I could take both of them out at the same time?

[Monet X Change]

No. Dan would tear you up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You think so?

[Monet X Change]

Dan will tear you up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't remember what.

[Monet X Change]

Dan has a sword. He has a real sword.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Does he carry it everywhere?

[Monet X Change]

He gonna carry it to fight you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I used to have. You know, I used to carry. You know, I used to have those two swords. You remember my Deadpool swords?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, you did? Where are they?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I gave him the Domino because Domino does cosplay stuff. And I. And I had these swords forever. I had these swords for a long time. And I was like, I. I bought the swords at D at Denver Comic Con. And I was like, I bought these swords, like one day I'm gonna use these Deadpool swords. So I bought these two swords and then I bought them before I ever had the outfit. Then for Look Queen, I had the Lady Hyde make me a Deadpool gown with the swords. And I put the swords on the back and I wore it, I think, one time. And I never wore those swords ever again. And I would just sit around with just swords in my house. Two entire swords. But the thing is, you can't unsheathe them like they do in the movies. In the movies, it's like.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I think if you're skilled, Bob, if you're someone who knows how to do it, you can do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it's about the length of your arm. Because I would put. Even if I pulled my arm, even with my long ass arms all the way out, the sword was still in the sheath. So I couldn't do both at the same time. I have to like take one.

[Monet X Change]

Like, it was like, look at looking clumsy as hell.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe there's some way to do it. But I felt like the sheets were just too long or something.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I remember those dude swords. I mean, that's drag. Drag queens always having random shit in the house. And it's always when you give a shit away, you throw something away. That's when you're like, oh, I wish I had. Fuck. I gave it away to someone like last week.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I haven't needed those swords, but every once in a while, I do wish I had some swords because I used to love swords as a kid. Whenever I go to Comic Con, I'm always tempted to buy a weapon because they make these really, like, fantastical looking daggers and axes and battle axe and hammers and Wolverine claws, and they look so cool.

[Monet X Change]

I want Wolverine claws. I want Wolverine claws.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is very attainable. That's very, very attainable. They make a bar. They're like on a bar. You never been to Comic Con?

[Monet X Change]

No, I've never been to a Comic Con before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wouldn't go to New York. I went to Denver because I just happened to be in town. I was doing drag in Denver at the time, and for me, the most exciting thing was seeing the costumes. But honestly, I'm not gonna lie to you. This is no shade to. This is no shade to Comic Con people. But, like, I'm used to seeing a certain level of costumery. You know what I mean? And there are some. There are some. There are some comic concussions that are like, oh, my God. But most of them are like, oh, not the straight people doing Halloween. Not the straights doing Halloween.

[Monet X Change]

But you did go to Denver. Like, the big one. Everyone who talks about. I always hear about is San Diego Comic Con. That's the drag. That's the big Comic Con.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What are you saying about Willow Pill? What are you saying about. What are you saying about Yvie Idling?

[Monet X Change]

The big one is San Diego Comic Con. That's the one that's like fierce and legendary. So I imagine that that one is where people pull out all the stops.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're probably right. Yeah. But the weapons were really cool. I now want to go buy a sword. Is there a sword from a sh. Because they look cool. Like, swords look cool. I mean, I got rid. I mean, I bought two and I got rid of both of them, but they just look really cool to me.

[Monet X Change]

I want the katana from. Or the. Yeah, the katana from Avatar.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Katana. I'm not sure. I'm not. Let me google Avatar.

[Monet X Change]

Or maybe it's not called a katana.

[Jacob]

Do you mean the last Airbender or like the blue people?

[Monet X Change]

No, the last Airbender. The one that. That. That I'm watching so long. The brother Zuko. No, not Zuko.

[Jacob]

No, no. Sokka.

[Monet X Change]

Sokka saka sword. The one that he. That's his, like, sword. I want one. It's, like, dark. It's like, from, like, alien metal.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Sakasaurus.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, this thing.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

that's cool.

[Jacob]

You can. Etsy is really good for finding stuff like that.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I don't really want to. Where am I gonna put that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I also kind of want Psylocke's weapon,

[Monet X Change]

the light up thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I also want Cabal from Mortal Kombat. Those two hook sword things. I like Cabal's weapon, and I also like God of War. That. Like that ax he's swinging around. Oh, my God. Bob, have you played God of War? No, but Jacob plays it. Oh,

[Jacob]

I made him play the old one. Got the old and the new ones, and he played, like, the first two hours and then stopped.

[Monet X Change]

So good. It's such a good game.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I played. I played before sometime. When Jacob plays games, he introduces me to certain games he introduced me to. Sometimes I love them. He introduced me to Spider Man. I was not really into that one. He introduced me. What I said, oh, you probably didn't hear me. Maybe because you haven't had. Because your ears aren't as clean as mine. Not everyone's ears are as clean as mine. On the last podcast. And then Jacob introduced me to Zelda Breath of the Wild, which I loved.

[Monet X Change]

Hate that game.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob introduced me to Fortnite.

[Monet X Change]

Too much Breath of the Wild is too much. You have. You're left too much to figure to do on your own. It's. I need. I need, like, a guided story to take me through.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, no. There is a guided story. There. There is a guy.

[Monet X Change]

But there's so much choice in that open world. That is too much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, well, choose to follow the guide, bitch. Choose. Choose to follow the guide.

[Monet X Change]

But there are different things you can do in the guide. It's not as linear as God of War and God of War, there's a linear path you can go. With Breath of Wild, there's four paths you can go and I can't. I can't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would say there's probably more than four. I mean, on Breath of the Wild, you could, in theory, go straight to the final boss and get your ass kicked if you want to. Everything's already everything. What I love about it, that everything already exists in the world. You know what I mean? Like, all the stuff already Exists. You have to just build up and build. I think it's really. I think it's really cool. Jacob introduced me to Fortnite, which I absolutely love. I just got back into Fortnite recently, but I'm so bad at it now. All my friends, we all started Fortnite at the same time, and now everyone is so good, and I'm like. And I spent, like, a year and a half not playing, so now I'm just, like, garbage at the game. And everyone's just a thousand years past me. And of course, I don't know who introduced me to Smash. Was it you or was it Jacob?

[Ad Voice]

Me.

[Monet X Change]

You started playing Smash. Cause you had a vendetta. Like, you had to beat me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh. Cause you said. You said you will never beat me in smash. And do you want to apologize for that now?

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You never want to apologize for anything. Have I ever got. Have I ever gotten an apology for you on this podcast? I actually don't know if I've ever gotten. I'm actually starting to think. I don't think I've ever once gotten an apology from this podcast. And we've been doing this for. How many years have we been doing this for now? Have you ever apologized to me? Have you ever apologized to anyone? Can you name one person you've apologized to? And can we get them on the podcast to verify it, please? Did you apologize to Tamisha?

[Monet X Change]

Did you. Did. I did apologize to Tavisha, but I did at Dragcon.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Mm.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We'll see. Wait. I found a. I found a text the other day. I mean, I'm not going to be able to find it because it was on. I shouldn't bring it up because I'm not gonna be able to find. You know, when you try to find something, you can't find it. And it's like, I might as well just shut up now. Okay, I'll just shut up. Cause I won't be able to find it.

[Monet X Change]

Literally, us on a podcast all the time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You mean there was. I saw. How do you look up your memories on Facebook?

[Monet X Change]

Your mem. I don't. I.

[Jacob]

Girl.

[Monet X Change]

I have not been on Facebook.

[Jacob]

I don't think you can.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like. Like, sometimes when you log in, they're just available there.

[Monet X Change]

Facebook. What?

[Jacob]

Yeah, because it does it for each day, depending on the year ago.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I saw.

[Monet X Change]

What was it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I saw a Facebook status from someone who, like. Who, like, does not like. Well, I. I don't know that for someone who. Who I've had discourse with online before, but it was, like, such A friendly. It was such a friendly Facebook status to me. And I was like, I forgot they used to like me. If I find it, I'll read it. But I won't say it's from. But I'll read it though.

[Monet X Change]

What was I gonna say? Smash. I've been really heavy my smash back lately. So I've been. So I've been. I'm a good young link player. But I would wanted to take my young link to like the next level. Cause I played this one computer because now I'm in above 10,000 GSP with Young Link. So I'm finding like really good players. And I fought one that when I tell you I could not get my feet on the ground, this motherfucker was juggling me like he was Bozo the fucking clown. Like, I could not touch ground. And so I want to be a better youngling player. So I' really, really. I mean, look, I've been watching like YouTube videos and practicing a lot. Let's get my young link, like out of this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you ever played with. With what's her name? What's her name?

[Jacob]

Jake, Kyra and Mithra?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. La Mama from Drag Race.

[Monet X Change]

Kamara Hall.

[Jacob]

Kamora Hall?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, girl, she's really good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She will gather you. You talk about you can't catch her breath. Can you keep up? No. When she's really good, if she gets one hit with that fucking bayonetta, it is a rap.

[Monet X Change]

She's really good. But like, there's so much. There's so much to being. And like they're using all like these, like all the oldest language. You have to do a bear, a fair, a hop squad jump, a hop squad leap up. And I'm like, what? I bet she has a whole vernacular, a whole vocabulary. I don't know for that, like really good players use, like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you watching like videos and stuff?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, videos.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, like about, like how to play sometimes. I've been watching little videos, like how to be a better smash player too. But sometimes I'm like, you just gotta get your ass out there. And it's like no one wants to work anymore.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, who do you think? Okay, who is your best smash player? Like your best, best, best smash player?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Me, Gunner.

[Monet X Change]

Really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm best.

[Monet X Change]

It's not Villager.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just love playing Villager. So I am pretty good with Villager, but I play with Villager the most. But when it's like I need to win, I'm gonna pick me gunner for sure.

[Monet X Change]

How does that work out for you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When we play, I Think there's online footage and evidences.

[Monet X Change]

Let's play tonight then. What's up? What's good, Mary? Do you know. Okay, do you want to start. Do you want to start on a silver marvorie? TikTok us just doing. I want to know how to stream games on TikTok and we could just. Because, I mean I spent hours playing smash. We should do like start putting it on our. On our civil rights.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob knows how to. Jake knows how to do it and so does Mitch. You just gotta. You got Kevin, who you hot.

[Monet X Change]

Kevin.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, he know. He knows how to do it too. Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, whatever his name is. Kevin the stream.

[Monet X Change]

Kevin, Kevin, Kevin.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kevin McDonald. He knows how to stream too. Yeah, we have a guy specifically though. Yeah. Yeah. We have a game capture how to stream TikTok. Yeah, you need a game capture card and restream.

[Jacob]

It's its own thing. You. TikTok doesn't let you stream on it. Anybody's. TikTok doesn't let Jacob. We're gonna take a break. We're gonna come back.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, let's take a break.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we're back.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure because I. I was trying to look it up. It's TikTok. TikTok is different. It's like. It's like its own. It's not like the. It's not like the little capture card thing. It's different.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, that's like a restream link.

[Jacob]

No, Tick Tock grants out stream links as they see fit. So not everybody can stream live stream on Tick Tock from like Twitch. You probably can because you have enough followers, but you need to look into it. They. They grant it to you.

[Monet X Change]

Got it. I mean, I. I mean, I don't know this is true, but I don't see a lot of black streamers. Maybe I'm also not looking. I also like stumble upon them. I'm not like looking. And I remember seeing that there's definitely black streamers. Well, I stumbled into it into, into into a tweet thing about saying I know black people, the bias of black streamers on TikTok. But I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The gamer of the. The gamer of the year they're streaming was a Ishowspeed who's like a really. He's like huge right now. Ishowspeed is a massive, massive gamer.

[Jacob]

I just sent you and Sonic Fox.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sonic Fox? Is that the first Sonic Fox? Yeah, he's the best Mortal Kombat player like in the world apparently. Monat, I have a question for you.

[Monet X Change]

I just saw your bitch work.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monat. Okay, question. Are you team light skinned or are you team dark skinned?

[Monet X Change]

Oh my God, you're such a messy. You're a bad person.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Were you ever asked that as a kid?

[Monet X Change]

No, I was never asked that as a kid. Not once could I remember. I try to remember when I was really conscious of colorism and I don't think it was not until like high school I realized it was such a big thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you identify as dark skinned?

[Monet X Change]

I think, I think I identify as somewhere in medium to dark somewhere there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who's light skinned? Can you name a light skinned black person?

[Monet X Change]

Naomi Smalls is light skinned. Robin Theed is light skinned. Tichina Arnold is Robin Thede. Oh, Thede. Yeah, I mean Tisha Campbell is Tisha Campbell.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm gonna say Tatina Arnold.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who? Red Bone.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Who?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Red Bone.

[Monet X Change]

See, it's okay. I thought red bone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I liked it high yellow.

[Monet X Change]

No, right, like the, all those little ones. Those are very southern and up north like in New York it was only like light skin and dark skin. No one was like high yellow or as Asia would say, paper sack. Paper sack brown. Like we don't, we didn't use those kind of qualifiers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I think it's because of the, the extreme status tied to skin color amongst black people as a result of Jim Crow in the South. That makes southerners black Southerners. So tied to their identity in regards to their, you know, a proximity to light skinnedness.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Y' all say dinner? Yeah, we used to say light skinned and dark skinned. What other. Well, what other words did y' all use? Like I know paper sack brown, high yellow. What are the other ones?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was it high yellow?

[Monet X Change]

Is it only for light skinned? Is it not for dark skin?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I never Heard anyone. I never heard any for dark skinned people besides just dark skinned. I mean, you know, I'm pretty dark skinned. I'm a relatively dark person. I am like darker skinned than most black people I know. And I definitely got a lot of shit as a kid for being dark skinned. It was, it was really kind of annoying. I was, I was also like a dark skinned. I was never light skinned. You know, like we're like got darker as they got older. I was like a, even like pictures of me as a small baby. I was like a very dark skinned baby, you know what I mean? And I went to all like all black schools and I, and my nickname was still Blackie. Isn't that crazy? Like,

[Monet X Change]

I mean, not true. Sorry. I mean, I mean, I mean, yeah, I don't think that's crazy because when you have all black kids, you're gonna have such a wide range of black kids, right? So everyone is trying to like find their, their color tribe, even within all the black kids. So it's not crazy. Like I can see how that could be a thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it happened. Whenever people hear that my nickname was Blackie, they. A lot of people just assume that I went to like an all white school in Georgia and I was like, no, all black. And the nickname was still giving Blackie.

[Monet X Change]

Imagine white kids calling you Blackie in school. That would. Nah, that's Cor Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I went to school in Alabama too. So, you know, I've heard white kids call black people a lot of crazy stuff. I think in the north that sounds crazy, but in Georgia that does not sound like, that does not sound that crazy because I used to live. So there was one point when I lived in Alabama. For my time in Alabama, I lived in a white neighborhood. There were three black families in this whole neighborhood. And now I think it is, I think it is now a black neighborhood. I think we reverse colonized that shit. And I remember we moved in and there was a black family next door. And the dad was black, the mom was white, and the kids were all light skinned black people. And then me and my family were right next door. So we were like the two black houses side by side. And then years later, this family from Syracuse, New York moved in around the corner. And I remember they were Jehovah's Witnesses. And I was afraid of them as a kid because I was afraid I was witnessing a child and that was the only black. And baby, when I tell you those white kids were very creative. And not just the kids, baby, their parents, they were very creative. When it came to describing me and my brother and my mother, oh, they got really rambunctious.

[Monet X Change]

How did y' all know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because they would say it to our faces. They would say it right to our faces.

[Monet X Change]

Monetization.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, they would call us all kinds of N words. They would, like, like, you know, kids fight and stuff, but it just immediately turned racist. Like, immediately. It would just turn into, like, extremely racist name calling. Or, like, their parents would be like, I don't want you hanging around my son. I know what you and your black brother are up to. Really? Oh, yeah. Like, it. Honestly, like a scene from a movie.

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy. That is absolutely insane.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And that's on Phoenix City, Alabama.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I don't. That's not my experience. Like, I've talked about. I've talked about. I've talked about this before, and I don't know. It's because I was so young. I just wasn't aware of it. But in St. Lucia, like, the colorism and racism was not something that was very prevalent. And again, I lived there from the time I was 1 to 10 years old, so that's really young. But a lot of my friends, like, their first experience with racism and colorism, they remember from, like, when they're, like, in single digits. So I don't remember having that experience in St. Lucia. But when I moved to America, I

[Bob the Drag Queen]

realized that, racially speaking, is it relatively homogenized in St. Lucia? Did you go to school with any white kids?

[Monet X Change]

Well, I was gonna say not many. There were maybe, like, one or two. But you would think that would be even weirder, right? Cause they're like, oh, there's that one person that's different, you know? But no, like, there were, like, maybe one or two white kids in school, and there were white people that lived around town. And, like, you know, the white families live in St. Lucia. That's not a strange thing. But it was just not that big of a deal. But. And not even colorism, either. I mean, again, I don't want someone listening to this from St. Lucia and be like, girl, what are you talking about? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I just did not see colorism play a part in my development. I was not conscious of it at all as a kid.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, no one's gonna make fun of you because you were literally the child of the richest woman in St. Lucia, so they're all afraid of you. I mean, one bad word about you and Jackie would have their heads. Like, I mean, literally, they saw what happened.

[Monet X Change]

Someone attacked me in the. In in the BTDQ compilation of you talking about Monet's rich kid. And I was watching it and I was laughing at.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, it's. It is the funniest thing. This is the. Let me try it now. BTDQ videos if you're listening. That one is the funny. I was cackling scream. I was on the plane watching on the plane to New York City and I was like, they're gonna throw me off this plane cause I'm laughing so loud. That is the funniest shit in the world.

[Monet X Change]

The. One of the funniest, one of the funny moments is when I'm talking about how I was a kid and I was like. I was like, yeah. And so I got the scar on my leg when me and my brother were running and they were adding and you were like adding to the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Adding to the estate. But yeah, Monet, no one made fun of you because they know what happened when Julietta back talked you one time. That's why no one knows who she is to this day. So I think it makes sense that you had a very privileged upbringing. Monet, no one would dare speak nasty about the crown prince of Saint Lucia, honey.

[Monet X Change]

Anyways, when you see movies, right? Like for example, the Nina Simone movie where Zoe Saldana got into a lot of controversy because she darkened her skin to play Nina Simone. Because Nina Simone was very dark skinned and Zoe Saldana, she's Afro Latina and she's. She's like light skinned or medium to light. So she had to darken her skin. That was a very big controversy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you remember that scene in Dream Girls where Beyonce. It's like a. It is like a moment during. During that's my Dream where Beyonce is like painted like a dark skinned woman. And it's literally for like.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, I remember. No, no, no. It was like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was like.

[Monet X Change]

It was. It wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't that moment. It was like in like the compilation that you see that after she leaves. It's like her rise to stardom. It's like all these different cuts and she is dark. I know she's in like. She's like a Nefertiti thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, was it during? Was it during? Listen.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, it was that. It was. It was. Or. I know it's. It was like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it was during. It was during. That's my Dream where Jamie Foxx is singing that's My Dream. And it's. And it shows because it shows her doing the Cleopatra, like all this stuff and then.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, maybe you're right.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I think you're right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I might be wrong. It's been a while since I watched the movie, but there was a scene where. Where Beyonce. Where Beyonce was, like, painted dark skinned. And of course, there's the infamous Tyra Banks top model challenge where she made people change races and darken their skin and lighten their skin. That was kind of wild.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I mean, I. Go ahead.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you once did blackface in one of your music videos, and I had a black. I had a photo shoot that I did in blackface that I used to hang in my living room years ago, too.

[Monet X Change]

But I think you and I were particularly evoking minstrelsy and, like, minstrel shows where people who probably were our color were still doing their faces up like that and also white people doing it. So to me, that was, like, different than painting to be a dark person. It was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We were doing literal blackface, and it was to provoke thought in further conversation.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, because I think that even though. Because I was surprised when I did that a lot of people did not know what menstrual shows were. I'm like, but that's something that I even learned in school in, like, America. And I was like. I thought that was like, that's, like, part of the curriculum to learn about minstrel shows.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, man. We learned, like, American in the South. And I wish I could impress upon you how much of history in Georgia is black history? Like, you're taught a lot of. At least when I was in school, maybe because I went to black schools, but it is always Black History Month when I was in school. I live, like, and everything.

[Monet X Change]

Ooh, keep on talking. I'll look up something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's really interesting how I felt like a lot of times when I was in school, we were actually being taught something that people might today call critical race theory. We were talking about the impact of. Of racism and racist acts and how they affect us today. We actually used to do that a lot in school. That's why I'm so shocked that people are like. But at the end, again, I went to all black schools where teachers were. A lot of my teachers were black, and if they weren't black, they were teaching black kids. You know what I mean? So it wasn't a shock to us.

[Monet X Change]

Morgan Freeman recently had this thing about. Did you see Morgan Freeman and the concept of Black History Month? Did you hear about this?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, that's not new. He said. He said he doesn't. He doesn't like Black History Month.

[Monet X Change]

What happens when the Prostate enlarges and the urine channel. Oh, my God.

[Shannon Maldonado]

What?

[Monet X Change]

Not the prostate.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What are you googling? Y' all don't know? Y' all not Monet trying to figure out how to find the prostate. Monet, how old are you? You just turned 33. You should know how to find the prostate by now. Po Andy. Po Andy. You should be digging around. I don't know what you're looking for.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. Anyway, he does a whole quote about how he doesn't, like, he, like, perpetuating Black History Month. I mean, doing Black History Month perpetuates more racism. Because we need to, like, stop talking about. I don't. I mean, I want to say exactly how he said it, so I don't, like, bastardize what he's saying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You didn't mind playing the prostate clip, so maybe you could play the. Since we all had to listen to your prostate lessons, can we listen to Morgan Freeman talk about colorism now? I mean, Black History Month, please?

[Monet X Change]

So the person says, on Black History Month, you find. He says, ridiculous. They said, why? He said, you're going to relegate my history to a month? The person says, come on. He says, what do you do with yours? Which month is White History Month? Come on, tell me. He says, I'm Jewish. Freeman says, okay, which month is Jewish History Month? Wallace says, there isn't one. Freeman says, why not? Do you want one? Wallace says, no, no. Freeman said, I don't either. I don't want a Black History Month. Black history is American history. And then he goes on to say, and then Wallace says, how are you going to get rid of racism? Until Freeman says, stop talking about it. I'm going to stop calling you a white man. And I'm going. Stop calling me a black man. I know you as Mike Wallace. You know me as Morgan Freeman. You're not going to say, I know this white guy named Mike Wallace. Hear what I'm saying? What do you think about that? I thought that to be very interesting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, to answer the question, Jewish History Month is May. Like.

[Monet X Change]

I get the sentiment of what he's

[Bob the Drag Queen]

trying to say, but there is a Jewish History Month.

[Monet X Change]

But there is such a disparity, and I think right now more than ever, we are. We are literally seeing in Florida, they are actively not teaching about black history. So you have to relegate an entire month to it, because if they have their way, we would not talk about it at all. So you can't just say, it's separating us more? No, because of that, you need to do It.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I would not approach it in the way that Morgan Freeman is approaching it. This idea that if we all just act like. If enough of us act like racism doesn't exist, it will just go away. I don't think that most of us, including Morgan Freeman, can choose to opt out of racism. You know what I mean? I understand that race is a social construct.

[Monet X Change]

Well, people with money, though. Bob, go ahead. Sorry. I'm sorry. Go ahead.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I understand that race is a social construct that comes from white supremacy, but you can't. But most people, especially black people, cannot just opt out of racism. You can't just be like, I'm not gonna acknowledge we're all part of the. We're all part of the human race. I really have a. There's something that really irks me when people say we're all part of the human race. That is a red flag to me if someone says we're all just one race, the human race. It's not giving what you think it's giving. It is a red flag. And I am going to either roll my eyes or say something, depending on where we are and if it's appropriate, like. Like hearing like, we're all one race, the human race. That is. That's not what you think. It's not the serve you think it is, Mary. It is not the serve you think it is.

[Monet X Change]

But to your point of saying about Morgan, recruitment can just erase himself in racism. I think that sometimes when people have a lot of money and access, they really think they can. There is that fucking crazy clip of Lil Wayne being like, man, man, what are you talking about? Some black kitchen, man? What are you talking about? Black people, man, look at me. I'm making money. Because he has so much money and so much access to him. The concept of racism and being black being not being a hindrance to being successful is his reality. So he feels that he can erase racism from his experience.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but it will. But racism can and still will find you, even if you have a lot of money. I mean, if Barack Obama is affected by racism, then how is my black ass safe?

[Monet X Change]

Lil Wayne says it does not affect him. It is not a thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, maybe, you know, I don't know Lil Wayne's experience, and maybe he's genuinely just not affected by racism, or maybe he's changed his mind. That was a while back. Maybe he's in a different place now. You know what I mean? Maybe Lil Wayne is now, like, actually, I've done some reflecting, and that's not the case anymore. I Don't know.

[Monet X Change]

I hope so.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I found out that apparently and I might be misquoting and I'm sure that someone in the comments will drag me. There was kind of like a white flight from Cuba where like a lot of light skinned people were leaving Cuba and like the black people weren't leaving Cuba and which is why. So one of the most famous black singers from Cuba, her name is Celia Cruz. And Celia Cruz, she's the, the famous singer who would always go Asuka during her songs because she always like to sprinkle a little bit of sweetness into her songs. And Asuka means sugar in sugar Spanish. And anyway, she's a black woman.

[Monet X Change]

Oh my God. Asuka. Asuka and Picante.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Asuka. Picante. But, but anyway, they. She ended up doing this song because she's a black. A black woman from Cuba. She ended up doing this song called La Negrati, which means the black girl has it. So it's basically this because. And apparently obviously, you know, colorism is not, is not, is not a uniquely American problem. Colorism is not a uniquely American problem. I know America's funked up, but it is a problem in a lot of Latin. Latin American countries. It is a problem. Apparently, according to Kim. Kim told me while years ago, it is a kimchi. It is a, it is a pretty big problem in a lot of Asian countries that you just do not. If you come from Asian country where most people aren't dark skinned, they're like, you just do not want to be dark. You don't want to get dark.

[Jacob]

You do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You do not want to get dark.

[Monet X Change]

Jasmine Rice is telling me this in Korea, like the whiter, like that's why you see like the, like the wider you can get your skin, like the more, the more privilege you have and the more acceptable it is. I'm like, that is crazy girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Isn't that crazy? You live in America, Is it that crazy?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, but I mean, I mean, yeah, it's just so narrow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it's wild when you think about it because like, because like the race is a little bit more homogenous over there. They're not as Many the population, racial makeup is not as diverse as it is varying.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So it does seem shocking that they would be like that, especially when, like, in America, white folks are out in these streets trying to get tans.

[Monet X Change]

And that's what I was about to say. These motherfuckers are spending hours on a beach to get darker.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And as a kid, were you ever told to stay out of the sun so you don't get blocker? I was.

[Shannon Maldonado]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I was told that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, was I. Because you're gaslighting yourself. Monet's finally decided to start gaslighting herself. Thank God I get a break.

[Monet X Change]

Well, my family, we would go to the beach literally every Sunday. We would go to the beach from sun up to sundown, and we'll be out on the beach playing around and doing that literally every Sunday. So it wasn't a thing of. Don't go to what? I think that as I got older, when I moved to America and I would, like, go to the beach with my friends and cut school and stuff, I'm like, I want to be in the sun. I want to get darker. That's. Remember that. I don't think that came from people at home or family or friends. You know, is there a big difference

[Bob the Drag Queen]

with your American family? And you're like, you're a St. Lucia family. Like, your family, who's been living here most of our lives. Do you find that culturally they are a little bit different?

[Monet X Change]

No, because all my family that lives up here, like, all my aunts and uncles and stuff, they go down to St. Lucia at least once a year, and they're very in touch with our roots there and, like, our family there. And they do a lot of your.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is your brother very American?

[Monet X Change]

He is very American. Very American.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right. Do they think you're very. Do they think you're very. Are they. Do they ever make fun of you for being American? Are they like, ooh, Kevin is American, honey?

[Monet X Change]

No, because when I get around my family, Bomb. Like, I know y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All.

[Monet X Change]

Everyone makes fun of that video and, like, how I talk and stuff. When I get around my family, that's literally how I talk. And I just. Like. I just fall back into all those old habits. Like, if you ever come with me to St. Lucia, I think you would be. You would be. You would be tickled pink. You would be like, what is going on? Like, it's just how I behave with my family.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, like, paintball. I've never been invited, so maybe one day, if any of the St. Lucia people ever Want to invite me to meet. To meet their families and go to their mansions. I'm assuming you all have mansions. I would love to come hang out with you all because I'm never gonna go fucking. And if I do go, I am gonna start the documentary Fighting Julietta.

[Monet X Change]

Fighting Julietta.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. The documentary is stop saying her name wrong.

[Monet X Change]

Can you please try saying one time with the accent instead of saying Julietta.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, let's say it again. I don't want to say it again. I said it. I think once is enough.

[Monet X Change]

You sound so good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't ever say my family's my family with their accents.

[Monet X Change]

I do. I call grandma Julia. Who else got an accent?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Her name is grandma Julie.

[Monet X Change]

But you said someone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, we call her grandma Julia. So some people call her Julia, but it's Grandma. Can you say grandma? Grandma. It's not Grandma. It's grandma.

[Monet X Change]

Grandma. Grandma Julia.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then Justin. Justin and Martha. Martha. It's Martha.

[Monet X Change]

Martha.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like what's your mom's name? Martha. Martha. How would you say Martha?

[Monet X Change]

Martha. Martha.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is such a country name. Martha. I'm sorry, Martha is a, is a old lady country name. Could you imagine like a. Like a 14 year old from New York City named Martha? Like imagine a New York City 14 year old girl. Like, what's up? My name's Martha.

[Monet X Change]

But it's just the time, Bob. Name change. Like now kids are named Apple and all these crazy names.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Apple.

[Jacob]

And watch.

[Monet X Change]

Oh. So I remember watching this small documentary on YouTube and it's about, it's about this channel in Brazil called Globo and they do this thing, this annual competition called the global called the Globaleza to find a carnival queen. Right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet, Name some of your favorite light skinned people. Oh my God, you're so about to start naming. This is so messy. You were literally about to be like, oh yeah, let me think.

[Monet X Change]

No, I just said literally I was processing. I just said I was like my favorite. And I was like, oh, he's being silly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you remember your first time seeing like, was there anyone that you ever saw on TV that really changed the way you look? I just saw this fucking interview recently and it honestly kind of drove me crazy and also made me feel deeply sad for the, for the women in the interview. It is Whoopi Goldberg and Joan Rivers. So Joan Rivers. Joan Rivers had really low self esteem about her looks. She felt really bad about her looks. She talks about it all the time. She always, always thought she was ugly. She was always going on and on and on about how ugly she Thought she was all the time as she's sitting down in an interview with Whoopi Goldberg, and she's like, do you ever wish you were beautiful? And Whoopi Goldberg was like, I am beautiful. And she was like, no, no, no, no, no. Like, you know what I mean? Like, there are these girls. She started naming, but she's like, do you ever wish that you were, like, really beautiful? And Whoopi Goldberg had to be like, what?

[Ad Voice]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, could you. Like, how.

[Monet X Change]

What year was this?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just type in Joan Rivers versus Whoopi. Joan Rivers, Whoopi Goldberg interview. It was. It was. It was honestly gaggy. I could not believe that. That she asked her, have you ever wished you were beautiful, Whoopi Joan Rivers. I was blown away. I could not believe she had the nerve to say that to her.

[Monet X Change]

That's tough. Now. Did you ever wish you're beautiful? Like the you talking to?

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Didn't that shift at points? I mean, not for me. Oh, honey. Oh, wouldn't you like to be thin and gorgeous? Truthfully, I am. I am gorgeous. You know, listen, for me, it used to be the Brat girl.

[Shannon Maldonado]

Wow.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

On the back of the magazine and just never moved. That to me, was the epitome. And then I realized that, you know, somebody had to build that, you know, that. That wasn't like when you wake up in the morning. When I wake up in the morning these days, I look at the mirror and I think, you know what? Oh, really? Yes, yes. You've been thinking.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, Whoopi. But also when I handle that like a boss.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And when I was a kid, I used to, like, hear about Whoopi Goldberg being ugly, and they just. It was so ingrained because it was such a popular line from the Color Purple. You showy. You show. Exactly. It was this very popular line from the Color Purple. So I kind of grew up with the idea that was ugly, which is upsetting because I look like Whoopi Goldberg. Like, I'm telling y', all, if I wear the Whoopi wig. Can we please put the picture here of me dressed as Whoopi Goldberg? Like, I. Like, I literally look like Whoopi Goldberg. So I had to just kind of accept, well, if Whoopi's ugly, then I have to be ugly, because they said she's ugly. Oh, Roberta, you're beautiful. Okay, anyway, but what was.

[Monet X Change]

Why is it okay like that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me process my feelings. No, it was really. It was just really upsetting to see. But then I look back at old pictures of Whoopi Goldberg, and now Even now, and just think to myself how gorgeous she is. Like, I think Whoopi Goldberg is just. Has always been just so beautiful. Truly beautiful. Did you see when someone was shaded to her on the View recently about her weight?

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Who?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it was Judge Shapiro. I think it was Judge Shapiro.

[Monet X Change]

Well, she's a fucking crazy, dumb bitch. Of course she would. She's that crazy, conservative bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe it wasn't Shapiro. It was some. Who was it? I'm not. Someone's gonna remember. Someone said something about Whoopi's weight on the View, and it was. It was. It was not received well. It was.

[Monet X Change]

It was like, Whoopi going on her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was. Was it Sunny Hostin?

[Monet X Change]

No. No way, Sonny. Who's talking about Whoopi's weight?

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

I think sometimes when there's a singer that loses weight, sometimes they lose their voice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it wasn't Sunny. It was someone on the View, and they were like. They said something about losing weight, and they looked at Whoopi Goldberg, and they were like, oh, it's like two pair of. This is like, my pants are like two pair of your pants or something like that. I was gagged. No, I was gagged. And everyone was kind of like, what? Also, can I tell you real quick, Tell me you're familiar with. With Joy Behar versus RuPaul.

[Monet X Change]

Of course. RuPaul gathered her like a. RuPaul gathered her like a ponytail. Honey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She said. She said. I was not. I was not dogging her ass. I was just telling, like, a tr. Years. Okay? That's one of my favorite. I was not dogging her. You call me butch. Well, you're a bitch. Well, all of it. Is that you? You know, Then she starts imitating Joy Behar's voice. She goes. You go, why do you look so good? And then Joy Behar goes, you think I'm going to take fashion advice from a drag queen? And RuPaul goes, well, honey, you better take it from somebody. When she. When she said, well, you think I want to take fashion advice from my drag queen? Well, honey, you better take it from somebody that is. I'm gonna. I. Can we put that in?

[Monet X Change]

We have to play. Yeah, we can't. It's not. It's not copyrighted. I'm gonna find it and play it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, it was so. And I mean, I want them, like, actually put the sound in. I want them to put the sound in. Well, you know what I have to say? When I saw her backstage, I have to say that they did fem her up. I love the haircut.

[Monet X Change]

The hair looks great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you're wearing nice, nice colors and stuff. I love nice colors and stuff. That's my new favorite compliment. You wearing nice. You wearing nice colors and stuff.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

She looks fabulous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think that I'm going to

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

take fashion advice from a drag queen?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honey, you better take. Listen, Joy, you better take it from somebody.

[Jacob]

All right? I have the Brazilian thing finished.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You think I'm gonna take.

[Monet X Change]

I'm gonna take fashion advice from a drag queen. Well, honey, you better take it from.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You better take it from somebody.

[Monet X Change]

This voice is so fast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you better take it from somebody.

[Monet X Change]

So I remember, I think I watched. This was a YouTube thing I watched or maybe I watched a documentary on Netflix or something like that. But Brazil does this annual competition, it's called the Globazilla, to find a carnival queen. And they dance on multiple shows. And it's the big thing that people do in Brazil and generally.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it like Miss America?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but a little different. But the same thing, right? I don't think it's not all the same categories. I don't think it's more about dancing and you being the carnival queen. And then it always goes to light skinned women. Well, a dark skinned woman named Nayara Justino won the title for the first time. She was the first dark skinned woman to ever do so because it was a public vote, like people from Brazil were voting for this woman to win. And she is stunningly fucking beautiful. Okay. But after she won, there was a lot of racial, racist backlash against her for winning on Facebook and Twitter, people saying all kind of shit. So they removed the title from her and they never gave her a reason why.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And what happened after that? I don't remember.

[Monet X Change]

They gave us another light skinned woman, but she. Because she was dark skinned. And people were commenting that they didn't like a dark skinned person won. They took the title from her. It's like this prestigious thing that everyone, the whole nation comes together to choose this carnival queen and they strip the title from her. Isn't that crazy? Because she's dark.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So it's weird because obviously most people wanted her to be the carnival queen. So if most people wanted her to be the carnival queen, it seems like there were just a few people complaining, like, how does that work? How does that even work?

[Jacob]

And the one other part of that story that is is the network didn't say that when they fired her. So they said it was her. The network said her artistic skills were not a match for the role. So. But like the Implication. That is what the implication is. It was because of her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you know, the first black Miss America got her title stripped too. Who? When? Why Mon, you don't know who the first black Miss America is? Tell me.

[Monet X Change]

This is Vanessa Williams.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, Vanessa Williams. The. I didn't realize she got it.

[Monet X Change]

It was stripped from her. I did not know that part.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She got had a strip for taking scandalous photos.

[Monet X Change]

I did not know that it got taken from her. Gaga, but I don't even think the

[Bob the Drag Queen]

photos were that scandalous. I think it was like vaguely scandalous. But she was black.

[Monet X Change]

You're Mike Jacob that like, I don't want to, you know, I'm not going to look it up. I don't want to disgrace Vanessa. Jennifer Williams. Vanessa Williams.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're discussing her history. She's a big part of American history. Let's see. Why was Vanessa Williams stripped of title? Williams became the first black woman to win the Crown in 1983. But when Penthouse magazine published unauthorized nude photos of her, I guess they were nude. She was forced to resign her title and apparently there were unauthorized nude photos, according to.

[Monet X Change]

That's so shady.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

DefenderNetwork.com I have a question.

[Monet X Change]

How does, how does colorism show up in your life? Like, do you see your, like, do you. Is this something that you like, are constantly or you have a lot of interactions with? Like, do you experience colorism a lot, you think?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe not as much as I did when I was younger. I think the world is actually getting a lot better. When I was younger, it just kind of felt like it was just constant. Like it really, as a child, it really felt like it was just constant. But I think the world is getting better. I. That's why I am so grateful for these, these little Gen Z shits because I think they are honestly, they are gathering us millennials and these Gen Xers and these boomers, they are gathering us and not letting us breathe a sea second and honestly, y' all keep it up, keep the pressure on because this is what, this, in my opinion, this is truly what we need in our next generation. This is what we need from. In my opinion.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I agree. I don't, I don't think it shows up a whole lot in my life. I mean, I see the discourse about it a lot online. Right? Like you have like. And he says that he doesn't. But there are literally like screenshots and things online that exist how people like Chris Brown, like, they don't let like darker skinned girls into the VIP or saying that light skinned girls Only like, I see, like a lot of. I see a lot of discourse about colorism that way. Not necessarily. And obviously I'm not stupid. I know it shows up in ways professionally.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that obvious?

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That you're not stupid?

[Monet X Change]

I know that it probably shows up a lot in work and because I don't have a traditional job where I'm like, you know, in an office. But I'm trying to think of, like, things that if I've encountered colorism or seen it at play on set or on different things, I don't think I have. But I know that it does show up there. But I agree with you. I think it is getting better. And the younger generations are. Is very. Is a big reason, Is a big reason in part why that is happening, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For some reason, I don't really like when I think it's just my past trauma, but I don't like when other people, especially white people, acknowledge how black I am in a room full of people. And it does happen every once in a while, and sometimes it is pertinent to the conversation, but other times, just like, I don't know why we need to discuss how. How like. And not just that. Not the fact that I am black.

[Monet X Change]

Does that happen a lot? That's not crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not a lot.

[Monet X Change]

But it just happened at all? Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it has happened before. Yeah. Cause like, somehow whatever the conversation going on and you know, it usually comes up when white people talk about tanning. When white people talk about tanning and how dark they get in this, especially white people who tan and go, I get really dark in the summer.

[Monet X Change]

They love telling you just, just as much as they like telling you how much their eyes change color. White people love telling you how dark they get.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you ever had a white person tell you they get as dark as

[Monet X Change]

you in the summer? Yes, many times, Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've had white people tell me they get as dark as me, y'. All. And for those of you who are, who are strict listeners and you've never watched this podcast, yo, I am black. Like, I'm maybe not as dark with a capital black with a capital. I am. I am literally Whoopi Goldberg's complexion. I. I am like one, one shade lighter than Lupita Yong'. O. I'm the same shade as Wesley Snipes. I'm a shade of Bernie Mac. I'm a shade of. Who else? Like, just name a dark skinned celebrity. Like, I am that black. Like Michael. Y' all know Michael Blackson the comedian. I'm literally that Black Bob is so black.

[Monet X Change]

Jeffree Star doesn't carry his shade range. Literally.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So when someone looks at me and says, when a white person gets the gall, the unmitigated gallery gall, to tell me that they get as black as me in the summer, I gag every time. That is.

[Monet X Change]

Even saying as dark as me is

[Jacob]

problematic

[Bob the Drag Queen]

is just a lie. It's just a lie.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Amber. You don't get as black as me. It was Amber. Oddly enough, I know way more black girls named Amber than I do. Like, I know more black women and girls named Amber than white. White women and girls.

[Monet X Change]

I know that's true. For me. The only white black Amber I know is Amber Riley.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But that's the problem. I went to school. I went to school with mostly black people. So all the girls that were schools were called, were they?

[Monet X Change]

Nah, we get it. You went to school a whole bunch of niggas. We get it. Damn. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not the hard R. Not the hard

[Shannon Maldonado]

R.

[Monet X Change]

Not the hard R. Rewind.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The tames.

[Jacob]

Amber Ruffin.

[Monet X Change]

Amber Ruffin? Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who's Amber Ruffin? Y' all know Amber Ruffin?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. The late night host?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Yeah. Shut the fuck up.

[Monet X Change]

Shut the fuck up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So now you have Peacock. Name two other shows on Peacock then, since you're the queen of Peacock.

[Monet X Change]

Schraders. The Freshmans of Bel Air.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you was a trailer. Have you watched Chris Folk? Chris Folk didn't get renewed.

[Monet X Change]

I know. That sucks.

[Jacob]

Amber Rose.

[Monet X Change]

Amber Rose. She's like, is she black?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is she black? Yeah, Bob. Oh, I saw Amber.

[Monet X Change]

My God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't know she was black. I thought she was. I thought Amber Rose was.

[Monet X Change]

Amber Rose is black with a capital black. Yeah. She's from Cape Verde on the coast of Africa.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. Charlize Theron is from Africa, too.

[Monet X Change]

But Amber Rose is black. What do you mean, is she black? She looks black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Her father does not look black to you. She doesn't. Her father is Irish and Italian descent, and her mother is of Cape Verde and maternal Scottish. So she's a. So she's 3/4 white and one quarter black, according to this thing I just read.

[Monet X Change]

That's so much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not. I mean, I'm not saying she's not black, but I'm just saying. I'm just saying it's giving light skin. Oh, this is the problem. Sorry. That was a bit. It was a bit. I joke. I played too much. I know, I know. I joke too much. I know, I know. Okay, here's the question I always ask people, which is Crazy to me that some people don't think this. This is crazy to me. Do you think Mariah Carey looks black?

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so growing up, I did not know Mariah Carey was black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you think it's crazy that I didn't know Amber Rose was black.

[Monet X Change]

But I was also young, not an adult. Like, I was talking about when. Like, when I would see my mom have, like, butterfly CD and the number ones. Like, when I was like 9, 10. Like, I didn't realize when I went to high school, I was like, oh, she's black. I didn't know that. But when I was young, young, I did not know she was black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I knew she was black. She also just kind of sounds black. I know it's problematic to say, but she just sounds like a black woman.

[Monet X Change]

I didn't hear her talk. Like, she wouldn't speak when I was talking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, when she talk. When she sings, she sounds black. When she talks, she has that New York accent.

[Monet X Change]

But there are black. The white people that sound black. Jojo. Jojo sounds like a black one when she sings.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But she's white, though.

[Monet X Change]

I know, but I'm saying, but she sounds like she sings black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's true. For whatever reason, I just knew Mariah Carey was black. Okay, you don't remember that gagged me in life. This is a moment that blew my mind. I was a kid watching the Jackson 5 movie, and I was like, why is this little black kid playing Michael Jackson? I said, mom, why does. Why this guy got an afro playing Michael Jackson as a kid doesn't make sense? And my mom was like, boy, Michael Jackson is black. And I was like, wait, I'm sorry, what? And she was like, chris, Michael Jackson is black. And I was like, okay, I have eyes, right? And I'm. Look, I've seen two. I want to either side of my nose. I have seen Michael Jackson.

[Ad Voice]

He.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is a. That's a white man. Like, that is. My mom's like, no, Michael Jackson. Now this. Everyone think trying to explain being gay to kids or drag the kids try to try explaining that a black man just turned white.

[Monet X Change]

I was like, is wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, what is happening? She's like, he has a disease that makes you turn white. And I was like, well, why is his hair white? Like, why does he have white blue hair? She goes, well, he would have an afro if he didn't wear the wigs or get his hair straightened. And I was like, question.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So the vitiligo turned him white? I thought all this time I thought that he was doing like skin lightening to become white. I didn't realize the vitiligo did that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So there are. So no one knows for sure, but there are cases of vitiligo where a person can. Can lose all of their. It will spread over the entire body. There are some very rare cases of vitiligo where it spreads, and there you're left with very, very, very few dark spots on your skin. And other people said that he had a vitiligo and then he tried to even out his skin by. By bleaching it, as opposed to bleaching it. So no one, no, no one knows for sure. I mean, some. I'm sure someone knows, but it's not public information whether or not he. Whether or not his vitiligo changed all of his skin white or not.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I always knew he was black because I guess I just grew up knowing Michael Jackson was black, even though I didn't, because I heard the Jackson 5 and Michael Jackson before I saw them. So I always knew that he was black. So when I just saw him as an adult, I just thought he was just a light skinned black person. It was when I saw the movie, when I got older, I was like, oh, he was dark when he was young. But I always knew he was black, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, it never made sense to me why Janet Jackson was black and Michael Jackson was white. I was just like. It just. I never. I was a kid, so I just never. My mom was like, well, Janet Jackson's black. And I was like, yeah, she is. I was like, she sure is. I was. I was thinking maybe. Maybe Michael Jackson's mom, you know, got remarried to a black man. And then Janet Jackson came out. I didn't know what was going on. That was also the same week that my mom told me that RuPaul was a man. And I was like, what is happening?

[Jacob]

Really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, y', all, come on. Someone's gotta tell the truth in this house. Cause apparently we'll just. We'll just say anything.

[Monet X Change]

You need to listen to someone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, honey, you have to listen to somebody. But, yeah, I remember. I was like, how is RuPaul a man? That literally doesn't make sense. I'm looking at her. She is. That is. I'm. That is a woman. Like, I'm. I'm literally looking at a woman right now. He went back to being a man. Did you ever think RuPaul was a. Did you ever. Do you remember RuPaul from your childhood?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I remember seeing his show on VH1. I remember, like, scrolling through it on. On TV, but I don't know when. I remember, like, knew he was a drag queen, but I remember seeing his talk show, like, randomly on tv.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You better work.

[Jacob]

Cover girl.

[Monet X Change]

Cover girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Give a twirl, Give a twirl your thing on the. Bob.

[Monet X Change]

How are you gonna combat colorism today? If you could do one thing to combat colorism, how would you do it today?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Break up with your.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God, you're a monster. If I could do one thing to combat Cold war today, it would be to go to get down to fucking Brazil and make Nayara Justino the Brazilian queen for the next decade.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, how would you do that?

[Monet X Change]

I'm saying if I had, like, a magic wand I could wave.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you have a magic wand, I think there's probably. You're gonna waste it on bob. Can I have my thing? Let me have my thing.

[Monet X Change]

I need you to correct my plan. That's what I want.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can have it. I just. It's just that I found out that you. I just found out you have a magic wand and there's all this stuff going on in the world, and you're like, we need to find out who's going to be the queen of Carnival. Honey, that is. That is the. That is the first thing I'm doing. I'm going to restore. And for a full decade. It just feels like maybe, maybe your magic wand could be put to other uses. You know what I mean? Let me.

[Monet X Change]

That's. This is my moment, so I want to do my magic wand. Do what you want with yours, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. If I had a magic wand, I probably would not be working on titles like Queen of Carnival. I would probably maybe like, a wave my wand and my wand could, like. I don't know, something about, like. I think it starts with, like, kids and, like, the way they perceive themselves and maybe all the little. You know, I wouldn't even want and I would, like, not allow little kids to make fun of each other for the color of their skin.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have a dream today that my four little children will one day be judged not by the color of their skin color, but by the content of their character. I have a dream today.

[Monet X Change]

It should have been the content.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The content. Someone should turn Martin Luther King to have a dream speech into a fierce fucking.

[Monet X Change]

I'm sure it's up track. Oh, maybe not that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Imagine.

[Monet X Change]

Guess what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

[Monet X Change]

I'm black with a capital black. I got my little. I got my little Bob the Drag Queen. My letter of authenticity, honey. Now I have a bone to pick with you, bitch. You black bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I'm ready.

[Monet X Change]

I have a bone to pick with you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm ready.

[Monet X Change]

Why Wasn't I number one of 150? Why am I 141, huh?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I have 40 friends that I wanted to send before I sent to you. I have 40 entire people.

[Monet X Change]

40, bitch. 140.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm sorry. I misspoke. 140. Yeah, whatever. And you know who was number one? The rightful. The rightful queen of Saint Lucia.

[Monet X Change]

Julietta Lusa. Yeah, get the country name right. Somebody say Luca.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Julietta, Honey. The. Yeah. The true queen of Saint Lucia who's been done wrong by the. By the. By the. By the Burton crime family for way too long. And we will no longer be bullied. We will no longer be intimidated by the Burton crime family. Do you want to. Do you want to apologize to Julietta's family?

[Monet X Change]

Julietta is living her life thriving. You don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You have no clue. You literally have no clue. Your family doesn't tell you what they do. Your family doesn't tell you when they do their crimes. They don't tell you they want you to stay innocent. Do you remember as a kid how many times your mother told you to go to the other room and put on your headphones? Do you remember when she would say, go to your room. Go to the west wing. She would say, kevin Kevan. Go to the west wing. Go to the west wing. Puts on your headphones. Does that sound for him? And then you. And turn the volume all. You would turn the volume all the way up. And then she would say. And you come out and the whole house smelled like pine. Saw randomly. Is that a coincidence? Monet.

[Monet X Change]

So ridiculous. I had to go. I can't go do what propaganda anymore.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Go do what?

[Monet X Change]

I have things to do. I go to D.C. tomorrow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you have a current housekeeper?

[Monet X Change]

She's not a housekeeper. She's someone who helps my grandmother, which I said before my grandmother.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In the house you live in right now? In the house you live in right now in la.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, no, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't have nobody come over and help you clean your house. You don't have a cleaning lady.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, the same lady that you use. We use the same lady.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah. And that's.

[Monet X Change]

I literally.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I send her to you so I can keep an eye on her and make sure she's safe from you and your crime family.

[Monet X Change]

That's your.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is why the only reason.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, the same.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Cause I don't want you to because you. Cause I don't want you to commit crimes to her. I can keep an eye on her. I check on her when she comes over. She's literally crying every week from what you and fuck and the dog and especially the cat do to her when she's there.

[Monet X Change]

You're wild. The same one you use, bitch, is what I have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you know I'm keeping an eye on her. I love you very much, but I am gonna hold you accountable. But I will hold you accountable. Bye. Bye.