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Monet X Change
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Bob the Drag Queen
my name is Bob the Drag Queen.
Monet X Change
And I'm Monet X Change. And this is simply rivalry.
Bob the Drag Queen
On this week's episode, we find out what show Monday Almost did instead of Drag Race.
Monet X Change
We talk about competition.
Bob the Drag Queen
And we find out what made Monae say this.
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I'm not giving you a talent that you don't have, Bob. And we find out what made Bob say this.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, shit. This got my brain shook.
Monet X Change
I'm wearing booty shorts Cause my paper long. It's Friday night, My nigga ain't at home. It's giving her face ass titties.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know the song that I do. I am a big fan. Well, I'm not a huge fan, but I really like Glorilu. I find her so charming. I just. I like her a lot.
Shannon Maldonado
I love her.
Bob the Drag Queen
I love her. Her little accent. Yeah, I'm from Memphis. What you know about me? Big Gl O in the Gl.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I like her little too. I mean. Yeah, I like her too. I think I. I like, like her vibe. I like. Her album is actually really good. I can. Except she has a. Except. I mean, good for her. She has a song with Kirk Franklin. So like, just after she's talking about her face ass and it's like a song with Kirk Franklin, I was like, whoa. I think Kiara shared us on it too. I was like, this. It feel like it comes out of left field.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, she said that she couldn't do the demure Trend because of her accent.
Monet X Change
The demure trend.
Bob the Drag Queen
Demur. It's giving very curtsy. Demure. It's very, she's, she goes. Giving very curtsy, very demure.
Monet X Change
That's so interesting because she can't say cute and demure.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's cute.
Monet X Change
But even though I have an accent, I can, like, do other words, like if I, you know what I'm saying? So that's, I find it so interesting. People who have accents that prohibit them from saying anything else, like saying something else.
Bob the Drag Queen
Some people can't turn their accents off,
Monet X Change
you know, so interesting to me.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, Arnold Schwarzenegger cannot not have a. He didn't even speak German much anymore. He can, he, he doesn't, he doesn't even do interviews in German anymore.
Monet X Change
What do you mean, in German?
Bob the Drag Queen
I believe German is, Germany is German as well.
Monet X Change
He doesn't do interviews in German.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, he, he, he, he, he doesn't. Yeah, he doesn't. But he will, like, he'll respond. Even if he goes to do an interview in Germany or in German, he'll respond in English. Like, it's very rare to hear Arnold Schwarzenegger speaking German because he doesn't want
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to, or he just doesn't speak German anymore.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I had a teacher in High School, Ms. Hendrix, who was our geometry teacher, and she was German, but she didn't have an accent. And then I was asking her, like, oh, do you still speak German? She goes, no. I literally. She goes, it was my first language. I, I, I came to America, I did not speak English, but I have not spoken German in so long, I just can't even do it anymore. She's like, I literally can't speak German anymore.
Monet X Change
That's so interesting. I get people who, like, speak multiple languages. Like, the language, typically the language that you're born speaking, like, that's like, you do it no matter what. But I guess it can go away. I didn't know that was a thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Ms. Senora Jimenez always said, if you don't use it, you lose it.
Monet X Change
So you think. So you think right now, if you move to Spain, you, you live in Spain for the next 40 years and you only see Spanish, you think, you think that you'll forget English?
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think so, because I think Ms. Hendricks was 18 when she moved here. So I'm almost 40 now. So, I mean, but girl, in the next 40 years, I might forget a lot of stuff.
Monet X Change
No, you're pretty much 40, not almost 40. You are 40, basically.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm not 40. I'm, I'm over a year away from 40.
Monet X Change
No, you're 30. I mean, you're, you're, you're close.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm 38 years old.
Monet X Change
You're closer to 40 than, than, than 30.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, that's not how. That's not how that works, Monet. Yeah, I'm also closer to 50 than I am to 20. But I'm not, I'm not almost 20. I'm not. I'm not almost 50.
Monet X Change
You're 40.
Bob the Drag Queen
When I. You know what? One day you might live long enough to be 40. One day you might reach my age. If you're lucky.
Monet X Change
There's no doubt that I will be older than you, that I will. Like, I will live longer than you.
Bob the Drag Queen
Based on.
Monet X Change
I'm gonna be just as how the cookie crumbles. I'm gonna be fucking cleaning out the shit out of your fucking dirty asshole and fucking feeding you shit up in your fucking nursing home. And when you finally pucker out at 95 years old, I will be living outliving you till about a hundred.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. We'll see. Well, girls, we shall see.
Monet X Change
Who do you think. Who do you think is going to be cleaning up your shitty diapers? Me or Jacob?
Bob the Drag Queen
I'll probably die before my diapers get shitty. People in my family die pretty young, so I'll probably die in my 50s or 60s.
Monet X Change
Well, you know what? I know a witch that can put a curse on your ass to make you live until 95. Her name is Judy Darling.
Bob the Drag Queen
But you know what? Maybe. I don't know. Do I want to live that long?
Monet X Change
I don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't have a lot of. I only have one person in my family who lived really long. Dad's grandma. And I always remember thinking to myself, she should have died a long time ago. Like, I remember being like, this lady should be dead.
Monet X Change
But did she want to die, though?
Bob the Drag Queen
She was out of her mind. She was completely out of her mind. Like, she was not only bedridden, but she couldn't think straight. She was. She was completely out of her mind. So, yeah, I don't know.
Monet X Change
I always said that I don't want to live to the point where I'm like. Because, you know, I mean, Annie knows this about me. Like, I hate people, like, having to, like, wait on me and, like, dote on me. Like, even though I have, like, two assistants and all this stuff, I, I, I try to do as much of it. I try to do as much as. As you have. As you have Rob sitting there and Kennedy puppeteering all your And Jacob, posting on your social media at Taylor your closet. But I'm the great. Anyway, y', all.
Bob the Drag Queen
Mona said. Mona, even though I have two is in a guard and a gardener. Right?
Monet X Change
I do have a gardener.
Jacob
And.
Monet X Change
And, And. And.
Bob the Drag Queen
And is there. Is there a housekeeper that comes out and cleans up?
Monet X Change
No.
Bob the Drag Queen
What about your pool?
Jacob
Does anybody clean your pool?
Monet X Change
Y' all could fucking suck my hole anyway.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you do your own accounting?
Monet X Change
No. The same person that does mine. Yours.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is crazy, y'.
Jacob
All.
Monet X Change
Well, let me tell you something. Everything that I have, Bob has, okay?
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't have a gardener. I don't have a yard, and a
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lot of it we should. So who you think. Who you think upkeeps the yard in your fucking building? You think that somebody just come and
Bob the Drag Queen
does it for fun? But I don't have a gardener. I don't. You also don't have a pool. You have a gardener and you just have a pool.
Monet X Change
Hold on. You do have a gardener. And your HOA fees pay the gardener, so you do have a gardener.
Bob the Drag Queen
And what about the pool y' all have.
Monet X Change
Y' all have that little rinkening pool on the roof?
Bob the Drag Queen
There's no pool in my building.
Monet X Change
There is a child swimming pool.
Bob the Drag Queen
Listen, all I'm saying is you are living in the lap of luxury.
Monet X Change
Anyway, so everything I got, Bob has. We literally have pretty much all the same stuff. And a lot of it we share.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm gagged right now. That was crazy Monet. Broke. That was crazy. Brokey.
Monet X Change
What game were we playing at game night?
Bob the Drag Queen
Mario party. When someone loses all their coins, it's so fun to yell Broky. When someone gets to a star, but they don't have 20 coins. Brokey. So fun.
Monet X Change
When I was you, me, Jacob, Mikey, we all played. That was actually fun. I was. I felt like. I felt like I was part of the polycule.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, well, you could be, probably. There's. There's three options of people to court, so.
Monet X Change
Well, no, I don't. I don't court. I get courted. So it's already. I'm already incompatible.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, well, no one's interested, so let's. Let's move on.
Monet X Change
You literally. You literally said there are three.
Bob the Drag Queen
I didn't say where anybody said you could be. Obviously you're not. You said you're incompatible, so.
Monet X Change
Yes, I am. I'm incapacompatible and you're incapacitated. So now what?
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, you almost. You almost had a conniption fit trying to get those words right.
Monet X Change
I haven't had anything to eat. Since 9am I flew over. Dude, I'm fucking hungry.
Bob the Drag Queen
Was that even a full sentence? Why have you not eaten food? I was eating in between bars. I planned it.
Monet X Change
There's no time. There's no time. I had to rush hands set up so we can do this.
Bob the Drag Queen
I. Why did you. Monet, everyone knows this.
Jacob
You texted me an hour before we started saying you got to your hotel, and we can start an hour earlier, but that'd be.
Monet X Change
And then when I looked up delivery food, it was saying it was gonna get hair. Fucking 6:45. Which is too late to fucking eat it.
Bob the Drag Queen
So to be clear, this is what I did. I'm not saying that I'm better at planning than you, but what I did was I ordered my food and I ate it. And I stopped eating it right when we started filming my podcast. I wait. I took a bite during a break, and then at the end, I ate again between the. I finished my. My. My Grand Slam. I don't.
Jacob
I don't.
Shannon Maldonado
I don't. I don't.
Monet X Change
I don't ask you for what you do with your food. I just said I'm hungry.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm just giving you. It's something. You presented a problem and I presented a solution.
Monet X Change
I don't think I presented a problem. I did not say. I did not say I've had a problem. Being hungry is not a problem you exit for me. It's not. I'm not. It's not a problem.
Bob the Drag Queen
Then why are you complaining?
Monet X Change
Huh?
Bob the Drag Queen
Then why are you complaining?
Monet X Change
I can complain just because everything I complain about isn't a problem. I complain that the sun sets too early these days. It's not a problem. I just complain about it.
Bob the Drag Queen
They complain a lot, huh? So you complain a lot when I.
Monet X Change
When I'm. When I'm doing stuff with you, for sure. I.
Bob the Drag Queen
But when I do a sun setting
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early, I had a lot of reasons to complain.
Bob the Drag Queen
I have nothing to do with the sun setting. I know. I. I know when I show up, it seems like the sun has risen, and when I leave, it seems like the sun has gone down. But I have nothing to do with the sun setting and rising and falling. I promise, baby. Nothing to do with that. Not me, anyway.
Monet X Change
So Bob is leaving on tour. Well, at this point, y' all seen as. Bob is already. Bob. Bob. I think at this point, Bob's come back. We're recording 29 episodes a day. So you might be back in the.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think I'm. I think I'm still in Europe. I might still be in Europe. We'll see. How.
Monet X Change
How is. How's your tour going so far? If you had to make a prediction.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my God, it's so great. Oh, you know what I did on the first episode? On the first night of the tour, I came out in my traitor's opening look outfit.
Monet X Change
Ooh, that's cute.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
Okay, question for your trader's outfit, did you wear a corset with that or are you wearing.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, the top part is kind of like a very soft corset. The top of it is. It's three pieces. It's a jacket, a corset, and a pair of pants and a big hat. So that's four pieces. Yeah.
Monet X Change
So are you coming out for your first night? Are you doing it in drag or are you just doing like.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I'm going to do a drag version of it.
Monet X Change
Got it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Cute. I was doing out of drag just to give the exact look, but then I was like, how would I do the meet and greet?
Monet X Change
Just bitch. Okay, here's what you do. You get in drag for the meet and greet de drag and do your show in the traitor's look. Why not do it?
Bob the Drag Queen
What if I. You know, when people look all like a. Like a. Like a. Like a badger or something with their eyes all.
Monet X Change
You have a whole hour before the show of the meet and greet and an opener. You have an hour, 15 minutes. You can't shower.
Bob the Drag Queen
But I also think that part of doing it with out of drag is having the beard. Because I had a beard on the show.
Monet X Change
Bitch, you better paint one on. You won't say, nobody looking that close. Paint one on.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was going to get in drag. I mean, I already got in drag. It's already done. I'm a drag right now. Full drag, full dragoons. And I listen a lot of the girls, you know, if you. Tis the season to be bearded. A lot of queens grow their beards during December and January because there's not a lot of. Because the gigs dry up in. In January. Notoriously, the gigs kind of drop in January.
Monet X Change
I don't think I've ever experienced that. Not that the gig dropping.
Bob the Drag Queen
Hey, Candy had a beard, a little mustache and goatee.
Monet X Change
Candy has been all year round. No, she's not do bearded mustache drag. She will. She'll do looks just in drag. I mean, with mustache and beard.
Bob the Drag Queen
You say mustache.
Monet X Change
A mustache.
Bob the Drag Queen
That sounds. Is that. Does that sound British? A mustache. A mustache.
Monet X Change
I didn't say a mustache. A mustache.
Bob the Drag Queen
Am I mustache?
Monet X Change
Mustache, mustache.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob, how do you say it?
Jacob
Oh, God, that man has A mustache.
Bob the Drag Queen
A mustache. You've been. You've been in Britain too. You've been in UK too long. A mustache.
Monet X Change
Well, you know, a lot of St Lucia was owned by, by the UK, by the Brits for a long time. So a lot of, like, there's a lot of karaoke. Like, we spell words like color with a U or we're like parla P A, R, L, O, U, R. It's all alarm. Alarm. You spell it the same way. A L, A R, M. Isn't someone
Bob the Drag Queen
who does a L, A R, U, M, like alarm?
Monet X Change
I don't know.
Ad Read Voice
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Bob the Drag Queen
Didn't say. Lucia gained its independence, like, since I've known you.
Monet X Change
No, they get. They gained it before. Before you met me. When I think, like 1970 something or 1980 something, I don't know what it was.
Jacob
1979.
Monet X Change
1979. All right, Jacob is on it today. All right, 1978. Anyway, so I, I, I, I spell a lot of words British. Like, Britishly. Robba, walk behind this camera.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's Cameon for the ninth time. That's Cameo.
Monet X Change
Oh, is it a party? It's Camion. It's Rob. It's Trixie popping her big ass head with a wig on.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's Dip down so I can see you. Hey.
Monet X Change
Hi, Cameon.
Bob the Drag Queen
Um, Camion's here. Taylor's here. Alessa and Rob.
Monet X Change
Alessa.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my God.
Monet X Change
I like Alessa. I like Alessa.
Bob the Drag Queen
She's lovely. Yeah, we're. We're all packing for tour, so I'm
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touring with right now with Audrey, who is also from the same company.
Bob the Drag Queen
I know Audrey.
Monet X Change
Wait, is about frozen.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, good.
Monet X Change
Okay, you got me, bitch. I thought you were frozen. I thought you.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, yeah.
Monet X Change
Okay, okay, wait, wait. Remind me. I have a thing for Patreon too. I'm gonna say can you. But I don't want to forget it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Type it in the chat, bitch. Type it in the chat.
Monet X Change
Okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
You also didn't send those tweets from the last thing you mentioned that about Tyra and RuPaul.
Monet X Change
What?
Bob the Drag Queen
You were like, this is what Tyra said. This is what Tyra tweeted about.
Jacob
I can't organize that. That's easy to find. I can find. But we do need pictures of Monet in drag.
Monet X Change
Oh, no, Jay has it. It's a picture of my hookup. Look, Jay has it. Cause annually he'll send it to me. Like, remember when you sent me a picture of you going to get trade? And I was like, yes, and I'm
Bob the Drag Queen
proud of looks like you're having fun on tour. Tell me about it when we get back.
Jacob
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Jacob
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Jacob
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Monet X Change
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Jacob
Exhale.
Monet X Change
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Monet X Change
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Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, so it looks like you're having fun on tour right now.
Monet X Change
Yeah, tour is going really well. I'm having such a good time. I really love this show. I love how people are responding to the show.
Shannon Maldonado
I.
Monet X Change
And yeah, we're the little tour that could. And we're having a really good time. I'm very happy. I'm very happy with how the tour has turned out. It's making me. It's warming my heart. People are coming to meet and greets and wearing sponge looks and blah blah, blah. It's all been very lovely.
Bob the Drag Queen
Are you getting any fan art or gifts or anything?
Monet X Change
I got a few gifts in Portland. Was that. Or was it Seattle? And yeah, people. You know, I love little Tre. I haven't got any like big crazy pieces like a big artwork or anything like that. But people are bringing little, little knickknack patty, whack digger bones. I'm always, always very nice. Cause also I was like, I'll see like SZA or Beyonce, someone. I wouldn't even think to bring a gift. So I'm always, it's always very nice to be able to bring stuff.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you compare yourself to other girls who've gone on tour or who've been to venue that you've been to or who are on tour at the same
Monet X Change
time as you compare them. Compare ourselves? Like, like, like in what way?
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, how was their show? How were they received? Were they nice? What was your, what was their meet and greet like when you, when you, when you were them? Are they at a bigger theater? Did their show, Was their show better? Are you competitive like that? Or do you compare yourself a lot?
Monet X Change
I have to be honest, I really don't when it comes to that, to like show. Because we're all so different, right? Like if it was someone else doing like a one woman show and maybe like BenDeLaCreme was touring with a horrible woman show at the same time. I like, oh, I wonder if people liked her show better than mine or something like that. But I don't really know literally any other queens out touring one woman shows besides myself. So I don't feel any competition that way about this at all. When I was on big tour like Work the World, whatever. I didn't think, I think maybe in the show you hear the girls that get really big reactions from the crowd and you always look like. Or in the Work the World opening number, when everyone does their first thing to the audience and their first interested audience like you, you know, sometimes they'll be like, oh girl, they really went up for you that night. Or something like that. So maybe like that. But as far as a solo thing, no, I don't, I don't feel that competition.
Bob the Drag Queen
Who would always get the biggest applause on Work the World when you did it?
Monet X Change
It would vary. Cause, okay, I also did at Work the World right when I had won All Stars. So I would, I would get a pretty big reaction, which was great. But people always go up for. Naomi Kim would always get a big round of applause. Violet would like, I think how many times. I can't remember how many times I've done. You know, I can't. I think I did two Work the Worlds. One was a fill in. So I wasn't part of the. I came in and I did a few cities here and there and that was during season 10. And then I did one a whole year where I was a cast member of the show and that was. Yeah. How many did you do? 3.
Bob the Drag Queen
2.
Jacob
2.
Monet X Change
And you were a cast member both times or you were filling in?
Shannon Maldonado
One?
Bob the Drag Queen
I was a host both times. Wait, is that true? Yeah, it is. Yeah. I hosted both times and I have filled in once as a cast member.
Monet X Change
Did you ever feel competition with the other girls in the cast?
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I'm a very competitive person in general. So it's always, like, friendly competition. Like, it was never, like, anything. But also it's. It's different on tour because, like, we're not changing our numbers. You know what I mean? There's nothing to, like, you can't change anything. So maybe, like, initially, what I'm seeing, like, oh, that was really fun. I wish I thought of that. Or, oh, my God, that was a cool idea. That. That was so creative. But never, like, anything. Terribly competitive in that regard. I mean, I am a very competitive person, but not, like, I wouldn't say that I'm, like, toxically competitive. I think that my level of competitiveness is fun, in my opinion. But maybe other people disagree.
Monet X Change
But what about. Well, what about when. What about when you are. Well, like, when you're on your solo tour, Are you, like, comparing your.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes, constantly. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Constantly. I'm like, when were they here? How many they sell out? Did they. How many shows they do here? Were they nice? Were they friendly? Did you enjoy them? I don't. It's just I'm also a bit of a nosy body, like, a busy body.
Monet X Change
So that information. Who. Who's telling you how you find out this information out?
Bob the Drag Queen
I just trying people. I'm like, was she nice to everyone? Or I'll just talk to him around and be like, so be honest. Who could you not stand? Who's come here? Stuff like that.
Monet X Change
Got it? Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. But also. I guess also because we're like, what there. How many of us are doing standup? Right? It's you, myself, Bianca. Who was this?
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob, shut the fuck up.
Monet X Change
That's a great.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, all the girls who have specials like Darion Lake does stand up,
Monet X Change
but goes out to comedy clubs and does stand up in theaters and stuff like that. And I'm really trying to think who does the stand up, which is so interesting. There's so many girls who get on Drag Race to try to do standup, but they aren't really comedians that are working in that space. That's such an interesting thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, to be fair, are the girls who sing, are they singers and do they work in that space?
Monet X Change
I mean, I. But I think that's a little more varied. You can be a singer and, like, just do your own shows, right? Or do, like, open mic nights here or, like, when you do your.
Bob the Drag Queen
But other girls. But these girls, do they even do their own songs? Like, like, once off the show, do they continue doing songs? Like, are they. Are they making songs? They did their Song for the show and that's it.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I mean, I. The season. What was the NAMI season? Season? 15, 16, 16. 16 girls. I mean, I've seen Tsunami at like, Love Ball and stuff like that. She's. Shay does her own music, so I think there are a handful of use as music. Yeah.
Jacob
I don't know.
Monet X Change
She has two songs out, I think.
Bob the Drag Queen
I did not know that. Used to me.
Monet X Change
But yeah. So I. I think, like, are you. You, Bianca and I are the only three who, like, actually do stand up. Right. No, sorry, sorry. I don't mean it like that. I mean, like, actual talent.
Bob the Drag Queen
When I said actual talent, working out
Monet X Change
and doing, like, comedy clubs, like doing festivals, doing.
Bob the Drag Queen
So they said actual talent. I will say this. I mean, Trixie Mattel did do the standout comedy festival with me.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. But I don't think she does comedy clubs. I don't think Trixie does comedy clubs, though. Yeah, I don't think Bianca does comedy
Monet X Change
clubs, but I say Bianca does the comedy clubs. You're not the only two to do that does comedy clubs, right?
Bob the Drag Queen
Probably, I think maybe. Yeah. But I mean, where's Bianca working out her material?
Monet X Change
That's what I was literally having conversation. I was like, where does B work out her material? And I think what she does is before tour, she does a lot of Drag Race things. Like, she'll do, like, she. She. She'll do, like, perform on the thing at. dragcons. And I think that's what she's testing on material, I think.
Bob the Drag Queen
Interesting. I. I've never even stopped to ask Bianca where she works at her material. I've never even thought to ask her. Never even once. But now I'm like, where does this bitch work out her material? That's wild that she. Is she working out? It's like, oh, shit, this got my brain shook. You know what I mean?
Monet X Change
Yeah. So where else. I mean, when you before drag in New York City, I mean, okay, I think that's what I felt competition before in New York City, when I was trying to work my way up the rankings and, like, you know, get my own shows and different bars. Like before, I was, you know, an icon. I think I did feel a lot of competition there. What?
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm just gagging at you being, like, the icon.
Monet X Change
I was an icon. I would find myself. Cause I don't live in.
Bob the Drag Queen
You said that. Right.
Monet X Change
Anyway. So anyway, I think I would put competition there, like when I would. Like when I would get a chance, like, do numbers at people's bars, competitions, or get like, or get to guest host for someone. Cause, you know, Peppermint was out for a thing. So they asked me to do this for a night. I would feel like, okay, bitch, I gotta come out there, do my best number, and fucking blow these fucking. These owners out the water so they can give me my own night. I felt a lot of competition when I was in New York.
Bob the Drag Queen
Are you competitive?
Monet X Change
I don't think I'm a competitive person like that.
Bob the Drag Queen
Post school game nights where you literally just compete. Go ahead. Okay.
Monet X Change
Game nights are not about competition, though. For me, game night is more about the community and having fun and inviting a lot of my friends over. So we are like Kiki and laughing. I'm not.
Bob the Drag Queen
See for you. Why don't you play. Why don't you play non competitive games? None of your games are the only games you play that are non competitive. The ones that I. That I recommend.
Monet X Change
I mean, but. But you.
Bob the Drag Queen
They.
Monet X Change
They can be contorted and twisted into competition for you. Like the fucking karaoke game. You would twist that into a competition
Bob the Drag Queen
so you can be like, did I twist into one?
Monet X Change
You would, you would. And I don't know. I don't know what's going on in your head, but I would assume that you are.
Bob the Drag Queen
What did I do? What did I do to make it to the competition?
Monet X Change
What did I do?
Bob the Drag Queen
Explain it quickly.
Monet X Change
Oh, when we did it the first time, you're like, well, Monet, I did mine. I did mine faster than yours. And again, I did not. I do.
Bob the Drag Queen
By the way, just so you guys know, I have all of them recorded. So I clock Monet's lie in 4K. Every single one recorded.
Monet X Change
Not for Christmas when we did at your apartment, like a year ago.
Bob the Drag Queen
Also recorded. Also recorded.
Monet X Change
Okay, then fucking get it. Find the footage, then.
Bob the Drag Queen
Find the footage. Find the fake footage.
Monet X Change
I will say I most likely. I most likely said a snide comment or said something to elicit that response, but you did say it again.
Bob the Drag Queen
Reminder, I have it on camera. So I'll be digging through iPhone footage from a year ago, just from over a year ago, just to show you that Monet will make y' all know. Monet will just bold face, make something up.
Monet X Change
Y'.
Jacob
All.
Monet X Change
And y' all think that's crazy. Everything I know about Bob the Drag Queen, the traitor, y' all know that this nigga will.
Bob the Drag Queen
I did not choose to be a traitor. The traitor. Life chose me.
Monet X Change
And you know what?
Bob the Drag Queen
You did not.
Monet X Change
You are playing. You are working it well. You are leading.
Bob the Drag Queen
I rose to the occasion.
Monet X Change
I bet because it's your true nature, who you are. You are me, me and girl Regina George. You're a bitch.
Bob the Drag Queen
I am a very nice person, and everyone knows it. Even Dorina said I was nice.
Monet X Change
Are you a competitor? Oh, yeah. We know you're a fucking competitive person. 100%.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
When did you become competitive, though? I want to know your fucking villain origin story. When did you become.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm not a villain. I've always been competitive. I love competing. But honestly, for me, the reason why I think competition is fun for me is because I don't mind losing. Like, losing is not the end of the world to me. I really don't have. I don't know some people who can't stand losing. Like, I'm like, if I couldn't stand losing, I wouldn't play. I wouldn't play. I just wouldn't play. Like, for me, just the competition itself is fun, but people who, like, hate to lose, I'm like, I don't know how y' all are navigating. Like, why would you even compete if losing is that big of a deal for you?
Monet X Change
Because I think. Because the glory and the satisfaction and the. Of winning is greater than that. They don't care. Like, that. That winning is. That's the thing that's gonna edify them, make them feel great.
Jacob
What about that one pageant in New York?
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I mean, again, it wasn't because I lost. It was because I hadn't slept for two days. I was hungry. I was emotional. I was tired. There was a lot going on with
Monet X Change
that pageant, but the losing set that all off. Bob, if you won. If you were.
Bob the Drag Queen
It was the combination of the pageant being over. I mean, first of all, we don't know, because I lost. So I could. By the way, again, I lost before that, too. Like, I lost other nights before that. I. I competed in. In our latest saliva more than once, and I lost. I mean, I lost Miss Hell's Kitchen. I lost America Got Talent. I lost Last Coming Standing. I didn't even make it past the first round of those shows. And it was. It was a combination, like, all the madness and all the stuff that. That went down, especially because I was staying up so late, and it was just. I was just so exhausted. I've. Sir, I have certainly cried for being exhausted before. Monet see me cry from being exhausted. I remember crying on stage. And that was that show we did in London during. During Sibling Rivalry. And I was just crying.
Monet X Change
Oh, yes, I see my. The show Civil Rivalry Live, you mean?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, yeah. It wasn't like a night. Yes. I'm rivalry. And I started crying on stage. I was just like, I'm so tired.
Monet X Change
It was, why are we tired?
Bob the Drag Queen
Why were we.
Monet X Change
Where were we coming from?
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know, but I was tired. I remember being tired and just crying and just being like, I am overwhelmed and I am now crying on stage during. During the show. If I'm emotional, I will start crying for sure.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I don't.
Bob the Drag Queen
Not emotional, but if I'm, like, tired or exhausted, I will just. I will just start crying.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't have that same thing. But I'll always be there for you, to support you and pick up.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, you do cry when you tell. You remember you were on show. Like, I don't know why. We were playing Mind Meld. You started crying because you were tired. Like, I think I'm just really tired right now.
Monet X Change
No, I didn't say I was tired. I was crying because it was. My brain was working from this fucking game that I don't understand. I don't understand.
Bob the Drag Queen
I cried from just, like, feeling overly emotional. We were, like, having a regular conversation. You were like, I'm just so happy
Monet X Change
and proud and I just been working so hard.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm just really. I'm just so. You will also just don't act like you don't cry, bitch.
Monet X Change
No, I did not say I don't cry. I said don't cry from being tired or whatever or something dumb. I will cry because I cried in that video because I was just really happy. I just moved to la. I was just happy my family came.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, moving is kind of, like, exhausting and tiring, right?
Monet X Change
No, but I was in LA for three months, four months. At that point. I was crying because I was just excited. I was in a new place, things are going well. I was in my new. My family came to see my place in California. What?
Bob the Drag Queen
It was three months?
Monet X Change
Yes, because I cried in September and I moved to la and it was more than three months. It was almost like five, six months.
Bob the Drag Queen
I guess you just always seem tired, so I just assume you're tired.
Monet X Change
Why you have to be such a fucking nasty bitch, huh? Why? Answer that question.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was just born this way, I guess.
Monet X Change
Fucking tangerine dream over there is Camion.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think I'm a dream. What'd you say?
Monet X Change
Wait, what dream?
Bob the Drag Queen
I said, oh, you think I'm a dream.
Monet X Change
Is Camion going on tour with you? Why is he there?
Bob the Drag Queen
Cause he just hanging. Cause I'm his uncle. He, like, hanging out with me. Oh, ok. Why is he there?
Monet X Change
Just asking. You said we're all packing for tour. I'm like, oh, is Camion going too?
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob's here too.
Monet X Change
Where?
Bob the Drag Queen
You're in the same building.
Jacob
I'm a pg. I'm in the office.
Monet X Change
Oh, I was saying. You came on the camera earlier. I was like, well, I get. Well, I gotta say. Whose Christmas tree's at?
Jacob
Can't even.
Monet X Change
Still got her stockings, her Christmas tree, the lights. She still got everything up.
Bob the Drag Queen
Why are you clocking everybody?
Monet X Change
Christmas trees.
Bob the Drag Queen
Why are you clocking Christmas trees, girl?
Monet X Change
January 1st, I had Andy's ass up on that fucking ladder taking all them lights around from down from around the house. January 1st, it's done. I'm done. I'm done. I don't like that.
Bob the Drag Queen
Why did you do yourself?
Monet X Change
Because we did it together. It was a collaborative effort.
Bob the Drag Queen
You said you had Andy up there doing it.
Monet X Change
Yeah, on the. And I was doing other stuff while he did that.
Bob the Drag Queen
What did you do?
Monet X Change
Why do you care what I did?
Bob the Drag Queen
You don't have to tell me. I'm just wondering what you did.
Monet X Change
Yeah, then you don't need to know what I did now. I took all the lights. We took the ornaments off together. I took the lights from around the. Packed it. I got all the little. That little. Oh, my God. Weren't our little Santa Clauses on our entrance table so cute? The black and white Santa.
Bob the Drag Queen
I didn't clock them. Sorry.
Jacob
I did. And they were cute.
Monet X Change
Thank you, Jacob. I even had a little thing. We even had a little. Hold on. We even had a little oi to the world with the Star of David for Jacob to make Jacob feel warm and fuzzy and welcome at our place.
Bob the Drag Queen
We'll talk about that problematic take on after the break.
Monet X Change
Why is that problematic? We have a. Anyway, let's take a break. We'll talk about it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Someone was like, oh, you. And we hang some kente cloth so you feel comfortable.
Monet X Change
Monet, it's not kente cloth. It is the holiday season.
Bob the Drag Queen
We have kente and someone's like, monet, you're coming over. We hung this kente cloth so you would feel comfortable.
Monet X Change
Jacob is Jewish and Jacob celebrates.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're black. You're ancestrally from Africa. We have kente clothes so you feel good.
Monet X Change
Jacob celebrates Hanukkah. So for our holiday celebration, we wanted to have things inclusive of Kwanzaa, Hanukkah and Christmas in our home.
Bob the Drag Queen
Monetize.
Jacob
Why did you have inclusive of Kwanzaa?
Monet X Change
Huh?
Jacob
Why'd you have. Inclusive of Kwanzaa.
Monet X Change
We had a, A canara, a big ornament on the tree. I guess Jacob didn't. Jacob ain't noticed that.
Bob the Drag Queen
Monet.
Jacob
Wait, so you had your one Kwanzaa thing was an accessory for a Christmas thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Monet said, and to honor Hanukkah, we put a Star of David on the Christmas tree.
Monet X Change
No, we had. No, it was the Oys of the World placard that we had on our front table.
Bob the Drag Queen
They said, and to honor Hanukkah, we put Artemis on the Christmas tree. I don't see what the problem is.
Monet X Change
Kinara.
Bob the Drag Queen
What are some of.
Monet X Change
That's a, that's a, that's a beautiful name for, for, for a kid. Kinara. Kinara.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I said Kinara lights. Well, you love, you love. You love competitive reality TV shows. You like the strategy based ones more than any.
Monet X Change
I do, but I also, you know, Patty made fun of me and I didn't realize I did this. Pat was like, he noticed this when we were in Edinburgh for the French Festival. We were in the same apartment together. And like, all during the day before, we would record our podcast and shit. I will watch food competition shows like it's the fucking Super Bowl. I've seen every episode of Chopped, y'. All. Chopped has 52 seasons now, and there are 19 episodes per season. And I just find it so entertaining. And again, it's the same fucking thing every episode. You get four fucking ingredients, three different states. But I, like, I'm yelling at the table like, oh, my God, why would you use the fucking scissors there? No, salt and pepper are not proper seasonings for Sushi. Like, I go in, I love food competition shows.
Bob the Drag Queen
So the year is 2018. You get a call from RuPaul's Drag Race and you get a call from Chopped. Which one are you going on?
Monet X Change
Wait, you just said 2018.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, you're back. You're back on. You got a call to be on season 10 of Drag Race, and you got a call to be on season 87 of Chopped Girl Drag Race. OK, you get a call from Drag Race. You get a call from Dragula.
Monet X Change
Drag Race.
Bob the Drag Queen
You get a call from Drag Race.
Monet X Change
You get a call from Big Brother Drag Race.
Bob the Drag Queen
Ok, but you get a call from Drag Race and you get a call from Survivor. $1 million.
Monet X Change
That's a tough one. I don't know what I would do. Okay, If I'm going back in my mind. 2018, I did not like Survivor yet. I was not a big up. So I probably chose Drag Race. If I'm going with the knowledge I have now about both, like, knowing what both they are, I would probably still go with Drag Race.
Bob the Drag Queen
Was your Survivor love started after you were on Drag Race?
Monet X Change
Yes, it started on Pandemic.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, how did I not know this?
Monet X Change
Oh, yeah. Pandemic was what started my. I just. I watch every season. I watch every season from 13 to current.
Bob the Drag Queen
I do remember thinking to myself, when did this bitch start loving Survivor? I remember being like, I don't remember the moment. I used to love Survivor like this. That is. That. That's. That makes a lot more sense now for sure. I mean, to be fair, y', all, Monet got a call from this show called. What was that show called?
Monet X Change
Oh, my God, Bob. We had some friends that were actually on it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I know. I mean, it's not shady, but you got a call from. What's it called again?
Monet X Change
It was Shade, Queensland, New York, when
Bob the Drag Queen
they got a call from Shade, Queensland, New York, and RuPaul was dragging at the same time when they came to me, and she's like, well, which one should I do? I was like, bitch, the fuck are you talking? She was like, I just don't know because, like, you know, the hit show Shade Queens of New York, starring Marty Gold Cummings and Brita Filter and Tina Burner and Tina Burner is just gonna be. It's gonna be huge. I said, monat, do Drag Race. She goes, but what if I don't win? I said, who cares if you don't win? She said, what if I. Girl, go. Monet was literally like, oh, I just don't know which one to take. I was like, bitch, if you don't shut your ass up and go on Drag Race.
Monet X Change
Yeah. Yo, Bob was being so rude. He was like, he's next to Monet, girl, go on the show. Like, he's like, why would you. Yana. Bob, remember, I'm passionate about something. I had a whole fucking lecture in my fucking apartment about why I should go at drag races.
Bob the Drag Queen
Did you go watch J Queens in New York? Did you even watch it? Not compete? Did you even watch it?
Monet X Change
No, I did not.
Bob the Drag Queen
I rest my case. Your Honor, I rest my case. This is a little off topic, but it's kind of on brand for us. I finally watched Joker 2.
Monet X Change
Oh, God. How was it? Is it terrible?
Bob the Drag Queen
So listen, spoiler alert. This is your chance. This is your opportunity. Okay. You're good. So the movie's not great, but I thought that the ending was honestly kind of brilliant.
Monet X Change
Interesting.
Bob the Drag Queen
So do you want me to explain to You. Or have you seen it already?
Monet X Change
You can tell me, but, no, I
Bob the Drag Queen
think I want to.
Monet X Change
I don't know. I think I want to watch it. I'm thinking. No, don't tell me. I need to watch that and Beetlejuice.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I want to talk to you about it on the podcast with Jacob.
Monet X Change
Well, I wouldn't want you to ruin the spoiler for me.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, I respect that. I respect that. Personally, me, I don't want to say
Monet X Change
when I've given spoilers before. It wasn't. I wasn't a setup. If you. If we had a conversation, you were like, I would not do that. So, anyway. Okay, here's for you.
Bob the Drag Queen
All I'm saying that I respect. I respect the noreposis. That's all I'm saying. They didn't have to do anything with you.
Monet X Change
We're whining to 2016. You get a call for Drag Race or Big Brother Drag Race. I've never even seen Big Brother Drag Race or Survivor.
Bob the Drag Queen
I would never do Survivor Drag Race,
Monet X Change
Drag Race or Celebrity Big Brother uk.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm not a celebrity yet. And I'm. And I'm. And I've never watched Big Brother Drag Race or Traitors. So in this world, the traitors exist. Back then.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
I would still do Drag Race. Yeah.
Monet X Change
Drag Race, the House of Villains Drag Race. Is there any competition show you do instead of Drag Race?
Bob the Drag Queen
If it was. If we go back to the 2004 and I could sing American Idol.
Monet X Change
Okay. Okay. Now you're creating alternate timelines. You, like, if I was a prima ballerina and it was the first ballerina competition series or Drag Race. Like, no, you're adding that you can.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, you've made House of villains exist in 2016, so I can't do a little bit of time bending, too? Reality bending.
Monet X Change
I'm not giving you a talent that you don't have, Bob.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, oh,
Jacob
oh.
Bob the Drag Queen
The truth comes out. Will the real Monet X change please stand up? That was. You've been holding on to that. That's been deep in you for a long time, hasn't it?
Monet X Change
I am tired. You are exhausting me.
Bob the Drag Queen
That has been burrowing in your soul for how long? How long did you want to say that to me?
Monet X Change
Oh, my God.
Bob the Drag Queen
How long have you wanted to yell that into my face? That was insane. I would love to have been on if I could sing. I would love to have been on the first season of American Idol because, I mean, within the first five seasons, y'. All. American Idol. I would. I'm gonna say I'm thinking about this really hard. I don't think a show has ever created this many stars. Huge stars, massive stars. Like American Idol. Not this. Not this many of them.
Monet X Change
Yeah, you're right. You have Kelly Clarkson, Fantasia. Oh, my God. Fucking Carrie Underwood.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jennifer Hudson.
Monet X Change
Jennifer Hudson. Who else?
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, Jordan Sparks.
Monet X Change
Oh, yeah, Jordan Sparks. They're all for like two years.
Jacob
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Rupert was pretty big for a while. And these are huge. These are like Grammy Award winners, Oscar award winners, Emmy award winners, Tony Award winners.
Monet X Change
How come we don't do. I guess they should. How is that not a music theater competition show for, like, Broadway roles?
Bob the Drag Queen
There have been.
Monet X Change
Have there.
Jacob
There. There was.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, there was one. Go ahead, Jacob.
Jacob
There was a series in the UK and it went for a while, like, casting different UK shows, and the winner got cast. And then it came to the US for one season with Grease. And the. The Broadway actress who came out of that was Laura Osnes, who was really popular until she came out as an anti backstorm Republican.
Bob the Drag Queen
So there's also a show for Legally Blonde.
Jacob
Oh, Finding lifestyle Woods Incredible.
Bob the Drag Queen
For years.
Monet X Change
Were they not successful? They weren't like, why were there only one season?
Jacob
They were like, theater successful. Like, most theater kids know them because they were kind of camp. They were like, in order to do seven shows on Broadway as a week, you need to have stamina, which is why today you're gonna run on a treadmill by belting out the track score from Weekly Blonde.
Bob the Drag Queen
It was really wild. Oh, my God. Oh, my God, you guys. Looks like Elle's gonna win the prize. If there ever was a perfect couple, this one qualifies a talent. I don't have. A talent. I don't have. Bitch.
Monet X Change
Why you mad?
Bob the Drag Queen
Cause my pussy pops severely and yours don't talk.
Monet X Change
What happened to her? I don't know. I was saying this the other day. I wish they were, you know, for our sisters and. Cause queer people would be fucking feeling the fucking meme memology of it all to monetize that a little better, right? Like Jasmine Masters to monetize Ni OOP in some way that like, literally, like, I guess then that would change the whole face of the Internet. If you had to, like, you have to purchase the memes to use them, then they wouldn't be as popular because they would be free.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think you have to just somehow capture Ride the wave. You have to do what Brittney Broski did, or you have to do what Antoine Dodson did.
Monet X Change
Or you have to do what is that where the money reside?
Bob the Drag Queen
Antoine Dawson was The redhead. Hide your wife. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, Antoine Dawson, but apparently his didn't really work that well because he did that song with those guys. And apparently those guys made all the money. Apparently. I don't know. Honestly, I don't know all the logistics. Allegedly. I don't know all the logistics behind that.
Monet X Change
And remember Sweet Brown and I ran for my life I don't care if she was enough in Jesus.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think those two guys did that song too.
Monet X Change
She had a song too. I don't remember.
Bob the Drag Queen
They just. They just literally just sampled and turned to a song gag.
Monet X Change
Yeah, like, see, like, sampled, like, you should have to pay for that.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, I think they did pay them. I think there was a thing where they said they paid them or something. I honestly don't remember all the details about it, to be honest. And Sweet Brown has passed away, I believe. Keto. Check the base. Jacob. And Antoine Dawson is a black Israelite now. He. He really is a lot. You didn't know this?
Monet X Change
No.
Bob the Drag Queen
He's a black Israelite. Yep. My brothers. Yeah.
Monet X Change
Do you think that somebody can be ungayed?
Bob the Drag Queen
No. No. Not even a little bit. You can stop having sex.
Monet X Change
But was you, you think once you. You. You bite the forbidden fruit and you start sucking it like a dick, like, that's it. Forever.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think that's the act of having sex is what makes you gay. Just like, I don't think the act of transitioning is what makes you trans. Right. Just like, I don't think. I can't think of any more examples, but whether. So just because you never had sex doesn't mean you're not gay. You can be a straight virgin, so you can be a gay virgin. You know, like, for all we know, half these nuns are fucking lesbians. We don't fucking know. I bet a lot of nuns are lesbians. I'm gonna go ahead and say that out loud.
Monet X Change
If you are a nun and you're a lesbian, can you comment below?
Jacob
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
If you're. If you're a lesbian nun. Please, please. Oh, by the way, we haven't done this in a while. I want to give a big, big, big shout out right now to everyone right now wearing green Crocs. I know it's not a lot of y' all out there, but a big, big shout out to everyone listening to this. Currently wearing green Crocs.
Monet X Change
Green Crocs. Um, and I want to give a shout out to anyone wearing a black baseball cap. Black baseball cap. Gang, gang. We out here.
Bob the Drag Queen
There's gonna be so many people, though. You think, yeah, I was wearing a black baseball cap before I put this hat on. Yeah, backwards. You would call it black. Also, I want to let y' all know this hat is cute. Y'. All. That were hating on this cat on the last. On one of my podcasts. Y' all are haters. This is a very cute hat.
Monet X Change
And I will say just like, nigga. First of all, yes, the fucking colorblind bitch gonna fucking tell me about colors. I wanna say, when you wore that all black outfit, Ableism, to the white party and we threw the picture up, everyone was literally like, is Bob smoking crack? That is clearly an all black outfit.
Bob the Drag Queen
The ableism was really intense there. The pants were gray. They weren't black. They're still gray.
Monet X Change
It was black.
Bob the Drag Queen
To be clear, colorblindness doesn't work like that. That's not how colorblind works.
Monet X Change
I can see gray wash black jeans, which make them gray.
Bob the Drag Queen
I can see gray very well.
Monet X Change
Apparently, you don't very well.
Bob the Drag Queen
Because I saw people coming, being like, at my job, we call this pastel black. That's not black, bitch.
Monet X Change
Why?
Bob the Drag Queen
If you asked me to paint your room, if you asked me to buy a black car and I brought back pants that were the color of those pants, you'd be mad at me.
Monet X Change
No, but that's not how. But that's not how denim works.
Bob the Drag Queen
Right? Show up in a black dress and I showed you that dress, you'd be like, that's not a black dress.
Monet X Change
Yeah, but when you are. But when you. But context matters. When you wear that with a black corset and the black shoes and when you go buy denim, that is literally acid wash black. Acid wash what? Black is what that color is. You don't go and say, I want the gray genes. That's acid wash black.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Killer whale's not a whale.
Monet X Change
Killer whales are whales.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, they're not. They're. They're. They're porpoises, I think.
Monet X Change
No, they're a whale. Whales are mammals.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think killer whales are whales.
Monet X Change
That's. What are they whales you're thinking about? You think about whale sharks. Whale sharks aren't whale whales.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, whale sharks aren't. Yeah, whale sharks aren't whales.
Monet X Change
They're fish.
Bob the Drag Queen
Is it killer whale? A whale?
Jacob
Killer whales are whales. Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, that's what I said. Killer whales are whales.
Monet X Change
No, you said killer whales aren't whales.
Bob the Drag Queen
They aren't killers. You're not listening,
Monet X Change
Y'.
Shannon Maldonado
All.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, this is what I meant. Koala bears aren't Bears. There we go. Koala bears aren't bears.
Monet X Change
Y'.
Shannon Maldonado
All.
Monet X Change
Y' all just saw. Well, I mean, y' all have been seeing it on TV for a long time.
Bob the Drag Queen
You didn't hear anything. You didn't see anything. Monet's lying to you right now. This is all Monet. Gaslighting.
Monet X Change
No, I'm about to say the Gaslighting. That, that, that. That you have transgressed against me on this podcast has made you into the formidable player you are on the Traders. So what you should be telling me is fucking thank you for giving you the skills to be a good player this game. That's what you should be saying.
Bob the Drag Queen
Be clear. The only lie that I'm telling on the Traders, that I'm a faithful and I have to tell that lie. I'm not telling any other lies.
Monet X Change
You looked at at the end of episode three, what's that boy name in
Bob the Drag Queen
the staircase, at the word Dylan Efron.
Monet X Change
Dylan. You looked at him dead in his eyes and you gas lit the fuck out of him.
Bob the Drag Queen
I told him, I'm not a traitor, which I have to say, but I'm not telling any other lies. You have to say that you. You can't tell people that you're. That you're. That you're a traitor.
Monet X Change
But there was a sentence. You said something, and I meant to literally call you afterwards. You. Yes, you said you weren't traitor, but there was something else you said to him. You were like, I will. I will. I have to watch it again. We deal with it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm a faithful. I said, I am a faithful.
Monet X Change
Something else that I was like, this is crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
But you have no evidence, so you're just making something up. What I tell.
Monet X Change
I can watch it and I will literally send it and we'll wait. We don't have time to wait.
Bob the Drag Queen
We'll wait.
Monet X Change
Come upon some food on this plate.
Bob the Drag Queen
Maybe someone else can find this alleged moment while you and I continue our podcast. While you spread more lies about me.
Monet X Change
If only we had someone that could do that.
Bob the Drag Queen
But like I said, koala bears aren't bears. Anyway, like I said the first time, koala bears aren't bears. Then you start mentioning killer whales for some reason.
Monet X Change
Whatever, Bob, you're diabolical.
Bob the Drag Queen
See, look how competitive you are. I'm not competitive. Look at you.
Monet X Change
I'm trying to find this fucking clip. Go ahead, I'm listening.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let Jacob look it up, please. Pretend the podcast. I don't like doing the podcast while you're looking down at stuff you're not Good at multitasking.
Jacob
I can pull it up, but I don't know what Nimone is looking for specifically, so I can't.
Monet X Change
And I have it right here. It's pulled up. Gonna fucking gaslight me. I know you said something to that little man and he's. He's what? He's.
Ad Read Voice
He's.
Monet X Change
He's Zac Efron's brother. Mm, interesting. Getting cast on that sounds shady. Getting cast on the show as being just someone's brother, I think that's insane.
Bob the Drag Queen
Dylan Heffron has been on. Has been on his own reality TV show.
Monet X Change
What do you do? What show?
Bob the Drag Queen
Just cause you haven't seen it doesn't mean it's not a show.
Ad Read Voice
I know.
Monet X Change
I'm literally asking. I'm asking you what show?
Bob the Drag Queen
Don't you have a phone in your hand?
Monet X Change
Okay, yeah. You don't even know what show it is.
Bob the Drag Queen
That doesn't mean. That doesn't mean I didn't know who Darinda was. That didn't make her not famous. I just don't know the show.
Monet X Change
That's too expensive.
Bob the Drag Queen
So you didn't find it.
Monet X Change
It's just too complicated to find because it doesn't exist.
Bob the Drag Queen
Monet, I did not tell a lie to him.
Monet X Change
Oh, they just give you. Oh, there we go. Okay. There you are in the little staircase.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yep.
Monet X Change
Mm. A terrible service.
Bob the Drag Queen
I will convince you. That was bold to come against me.
Monet X Change
Wait.
Bob the Drag Queen
Fuck, Monet.
Ad Read Voice
It does.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I'm telling you right now, it doesn't exist. I did not tell any lies in the house.
Monet X Change
Besides, and I'll put it so you're saying on camera, you never told any other lie besides that you are a faithful.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's the only lie I told you
Monet X Change
the entire time you were there.
Bob the Drag Queen
The whole time I was there.
Monet X Change
Okay, Done. Okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
What are you gonna do when you're. What are you gonna do when you. When you find out you're wrong?
Monet X Change
I would say, oh, I was wrong.
Bob the Drag Queen
No. Cause you've already accused me. And I want more than just, I would like an apology.
Monet X Change
I don't care what you want. You're not gonna do it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I would like an apology.
Monet X Change
It's nice to want things for you besmirching my name. It's nice to want things.
Bob the Drag Queen
I would like an apology from you.
Monet X Change
It's nice to one thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, let me. I'll make sure everyone knows that you're wrong.
Monet X Change
Okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're wrong. Which you are right now, by the way.
Monet X Change
No, I just don't. There's not a world where you do not say another lie besides yours faithful. I just don't. I don't believe it. And again, deviations of that are different, right? Saying that you. Just because it's related to you being a faithful traitor does not make it one lie like you. There are tell me lies.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. And you allegedly found, by the way
Monet X Change
you were in the air.
Bob the Drag Queen
Why did you abandon the clip?
Monet X Change
You found it because it takes too long. It's like a three minute thing. We don't want to waste the time doing it on the podcast.
Bob the Drag Queen
We'll skip ahead in the podcast. Go ahead.
Monet X Change
No, listen. No, it's fine. We'll find it. You say you do not tell any lies. Then you have nothing to worry about.
Bob the Drag Queen
I know I don't, but you found the clips. We'll skip ahead. We'll skip ahead. I'll wait. I can vape.
Monet X Change
In the meantime, we don't have nothing to worry. We have to do these podcasts. I'm hungry.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, you don't have three minutes. Oh, interesting, interesting, interesting way to admit defeat, Monet.
Monet X Change
X Change many ways.
Bob the Drag Queen
And see, this is your competitive nature. This is why I said years ago, probably will be your downfall. I've said it before and you were wrong. I'll say it again now. And you know what? Your downfall will come one day and I'll be like, I'm going to come by when you were in the gutter. Come by lowest. When you are at your lowest, when I'm the only person left in your life because everyone else has abandoned you. And I'm gonna say pride wasn't it, But I will help you up. Was it the pride?
Monet X Change
I did not want you to help me. Let's be very clear. I did not want you to help
Bob the Drag Queen
me again in this scenario. Everyone else has left you because of your pride. Everyone has abandoned you. But you know everything.
Monet X Change
But you know who will never leave me or forsake me?
Bob the Drag Queen
Your Lord Savior.
Monet X Change
Yes. He will never leave me or forsake me, man.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think he's kind of against you. Low key a little bit, to be honest. God is competitive. God is competing with gods that he says don't exist. Like no other gods before me, by the way. I'm the only one. But that being said, no other gods before me. But I, I just to be clear, there literally aren't any other gods, but none of them before me. Even though they don't exist, but none of them before me.
Shannon Maldonado
Please.
Bob the Drag Queen
Please.
Monet X Change
Yeah. I did not say God. I said Jesus. Jesus is sweet.
Bob the Drag Queen
God is God.
Monet X Change
God. No, God is A kind. Jesus is sweet.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jesus is God. Jesus and God are one. They're the Holy Trinity, the blessed three in one.
Monet X Change
Yeah, but they still were separate entities, right?
Jacob
Yeah. I have a Jewish question. What's up with that? Like, they're all different people, but they're also all the same.
Bob the Drag Queen
The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are all one.
Monet X Change
Yes, the blessed three in one.
Jacob
So Jesus is God, but he also is his own father and sent himself to earth to kill himself.
Bob the Drag Queen
Think the substance. Jesus is the young girl and God is Demi Moore. Right. And one of them has to go, and it was Jesus. He had to go. But he got to come back on season two.
Monet X Change
Yeshua.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's the comeback of the century.
Monet X Change
Well, yeah. Cause the Old Testament is season one and the New Testament is season two.
Bob the Drag Queen
No. Jesus dies and comes back in the same Testament.
Monet X Change
Oh, yeah.
Jacob
Yeah. Jesus isn't in the Old Testament. That's the Jewish one.
Monet X Change
No, Jesus was not in the Old Testament.
Jacob
Yeah, he wasn't.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, he was not came back in
Monet X Change
the New Testament and died in the. Right.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jesus died and came back in the first book of the New Testament.
Monet X Change
No.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes.
Jacob
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
The first four books are the same book over and over again.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Just told from, like, just like different. Different writing styles. Like, now it's in italics. Matthew, Martin, Johnny. The same story that was kind of like. I was like, this is kind of wild.
Monet X Change
Should we. I mean, there are multiple times of the story. Should we. Should we. Should we get dressed in, like, in like, church lady dragon? Go to.
Jacob
Go to.
Monet X Change
Go to church service?
Bob the Drag Queen
I have. I have several church lady dresses already. You already know this. I'm sure you sold all yours already.
Monet X Change
No.
Jacob
Can we do a Bible episode for the next one?
Monet X Change
Can we? What?
Jacob
The next episode. The one about the Bible and it's a Bible.
Bob the Drag Queen
Would it be a Bible quiz?
Jacob
I don't think it's a Bible quiz.
Monet X Change
I don't know much about the Bible.
Bob the Drag Queen
What would it be like? What would a Bible episode be?
Jacob
I think we would look at notable quotes. I think we could talk about this too. I don't know. I just think it would be funny. Maybe not. Okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm not against it. The Bible. They call it the good book for a reason. It's a good book. The Bible is a good book.
Monet X Change
I'm not interested in talking about the Bible that much.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's called the good book. Honestly. It actually is, if you're. If you're willing to look at it objectively. It is actually a good book. It's a pretty good Book.
Jacob
What about it is. Well, okay, we can.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, there's. First of all, there are multiple. There are so many stories in it. It's basically like watching a TV show that has, like, 80 seasons. You know what I mean? Each season has something new. Then they did Method Mark, Luke, and John, which are just kind of retelling of the same story over and go. Which. Which, creatively speaking, is actually quite clever and quite creative. There are wells eating people. There is murder. There is treachery, debauchery.
Monet X Change
There's murder.
Bob the Drag Queen
Murder. There is adultery. There's animals. There's bears killing families. There's women turning into pillars of salt. Like, the Bible has some really creative writing.
Jacob
Water.
Bob the Drag Queen
There's.
Ad Read Voice
There.
Bob the Drag Queen
There. There's Water Walk. Which Monet. Which Monet would hold until season two. Which, by the way, I hope you all are tuning in to Dungeons and Drag Queens season two over on the Dropout app. It is really, really good, y'.
Shannon Maldonado
All.
Bob the Drag Queen
There is so much to watching me and Monet right now. You have Monet talks, you have sibling rivalry. You have sibling watchery, you have purse first impression reviews of the Traders, you have the traitors, you have the Pit Stop, and you have dungeons and drag queens all at the same time. This is madness.
Monet X Change
And, well, if you missed it, Monet's slumber party is also still out there, and it is on the Dropout app. Why?
Bob the Drag Queen
Why?
Monet X Change
After episodes in between episodes of Dungeons and Drag Queens, watch Monet Slumber Party. Such a great show.
Bob the Drag Queen
And there's still three seasons of We're Here that I was on. I also did RuPaul's Drag Race once.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I have three seasons of drag Race on there, girl. In my opinion, all three of them were quite Chef's Kiss.
Bob the Drag Queen
Which one's best?
Monet X Change
All Star seven was such a good season. Great season.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, I didn't go back and watch it again. I wonder if I was enamored by just how beautiful the outfits were. Like, there wasn't a lot of drama,
Monet X Change
though, which there was no drama.
Bob the Drag Queen
I like my Drag Race a little bit of drama.
Monet X Change
I do, too. It's kind of why.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I need to go back and rewatch it. I need to go back and look at it again through an objective lens. I want to get an outfit from Joshua Ponte.
Monet X Change
Joshua is so great, and he's so hot and he's so sweet. Like Joshua. Joshua is too good looking to be as nice as he is.
Bob the Drag Queen
Have you told him that you could kick me around and overcharge me and I wouldn't Care.
Monet X Change
Like, Joshua is so sweet. He's on time, he's professional, and he's hot. Like, why.
Bob the Drag Queen
Who should do my reunion look?
Monet X Change
Josh. The only thing is I wish. I wish Joshua lived in LA more, but I like to, like, work with John Mo. He is in Chicago, so I had to like, fly there.
Bob the Drag Queen
But he's in la. I mean, Chicago.
Monet X Change
Yeah, he's in Chicago.
Bob the Drag Queen
I thought he was in Vegas.
Monet X Change
Is this the candy picture you just sent?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I am Korea. It wasn't downloading for some reason before my. I think I have bad service over here or something.
Monet X Change
The five o' clock shadow is sending me into orbit. Five o'?
Jacob
Clock?
Bob the Drag Queen
Bitch, it's dinner. Bitch. It's fucking dinner's rush. Honey, she does have a beard on.
Monet X Change
Still is hilarious. She better work.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, but, yeah, I. I would love to do a Joshua Ponte look. That'd be really fun.
Monet X Change
You know he made that. He won't. He made that. Have you ever seen Jada in that silver look with the hat?
Bob the Drag Queen
No.
Monet X Change
She looks like a character from Mortal Kombat. Jacob, I don't know if you can find it. Is Jada in this, like, big hat? It was Sophia. Hold on one second. This might be my food. Hello? Yeah, can you leave the food at the front desk, please? Thanks.
Bob the Drag Queen
Why do you talking to my voice
Monet X Change
on my phone like, what?
Bob the Drag Queen
Hello? Could you leave me to the front desk, please?
Monet X Change
This.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's cute. He also my favorite one that he. The one that he did for Shea for All Star seven.
Monet X Change
Which one? I think he did a couple.
Bob the Drag Queen
The promo look.
Monet X Change
Oh, yeah, that was great too. Joshua.
Bob the Drag Queen
Hello?
Monet X Change
Do I say that?
Bob the Drag Queen
Could you leave it at the front desk, please?
Monet X Change
Hello?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, it's 46.
Monet X Change
Thank you. I did not pitch my voice up like that.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, you did. Hello, can you leave it at the front desk, please? It's 46. Thank you.
Monet X Change
I don't think I talked like that, but.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, you were like. You were like Joshua part. I will suck the meat off his. Hello? Okay, just answer the phone.
Monet X Change
Why did I say I will suck the meat up. Why? Why'd you have to add all that? I never said I will suck the. This and that. You.
Bob the Drag Queen
Would you. Oh, my God.
Shannon Maldonado
Why?
Bob the Drag Queen
Answer the question. Would you.
Monet X Change
You're so inappropriate.
Bob the Drag Queen
Would you.
Monet X Change
That is inappropriate.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, well, you. He fine. He fine.
Jacob
He is fine.
Monet X Change
He's beautiful.
Bob the Drag Queen
Would you.
Monet X Change
Though he's also in a fully. I think. I'm pretty sure Joshua has like, a long spot.
Ad Read Voice
Okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
Give him the opportunity.
Monet X Change
You're so. You're so messy.
Bob the Drag Queen
All right.
Monet X Change
Well, you're a messy person.
Bob the Drag Queen
That means no Josh. Why? She thinks you're ugly. All right, thanks for coming on the podcast, everybody.
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Date: March 17, 2025
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
In this episode, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change dive deep (and hilariously) into the topic of competition—across drag, touring, stand-up comedy, game nights, and reality TV. They explore how competition shows have shaped their careers, the reality of being compared to other queens, their attitudes towards winning and losing, and personal moments from their journeys. The duo’s infectious chemistry is on full display, full of playful shade, memorable one-liners, genuine insights, and chaotic banter.
Tour Life & Fan Experiences
Comparing With Other Queens
Competitive Origins
Bob reflects on where his competitive nature comes from and why, for him, competing is about fun rather than fear of losing:
Monét finds that early drag career in NYC’s bar scene was where she felt real competition:
Who Are the Stand-Up Queens?
Other Drag Talents
If Not Drag Race, What Show?
Nostalgia for Early American Idol
TV Show Banter
Bob’s Traitors Experience
Monét lightly interrogates Bob about lies told on The Traitors, leading to a hilarious debate over who is gaslighting whom and what counts as a “lie” on a competition show.
Accents and Language Loss
Holiday Decorations Feud
Memes and Monetization
Queerness & Identity
Biblical Trivia and Drag
Monét’s sneak shade:
Bob’s reality check:
Monét on competitive drag beginnings:
Peak rivalry banter:
Bob on the “good book,” reality TV and drama:
If you want to understand how drag, comedy, and reality TV careers intersect—and why competition is both essential and complex for queer performers—this episode is a masterclass, served with hearty shade and untouchable chemistry.
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