The One About Dancing

Summary

Sibling Rivalry – “The One About Dancing”

Date: October 7, 2024
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change

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Episode Overview

This episode of Sibling Rivalry, titled “The One About Dancing,” sees Bob and Monét at their sharpest and funniest, diving into a dynamic conversation about dancing, movement, rhythm, and all things physical performance. While officially "about" dancing, the conversation weaves through kitchen drama, thrift shopping tales, drag culture, iconic group dances, and takes a few iconic detours—always with the duo’s signature playful bickering and competitive energy.

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Main Topics & Key Insights

1. Leafy Greens, Cooking Definitions, and Culinary Debates

(01:25–07:31 approx.)

• Leafy Greens Preferences:

  • Bob expresses his hatred for spinach in salads, prompting a playful argument about the ranking of leafy greens (“Spinach is not my favorite leafy green. It might be—no, it’s not my least favorite, but it’s bottom three for sure.” — Bob, 02:23).
  • Monét weighs in: “I hate iceberg. It’s like you’re just chewing on fucking water.” (03:03)

• Massaging Kale & Cooking Definitions:

  • Bob claims expertise in “massaging kale,” describing the prep process. Monét questions whether this counts as cooking, launching a debate that leads them to the dictionary.
  • “Cooking implies heat. I didn’t know that. Did you know that until just now?” — Monét, 05:54
  • “I’m not your mirror, baby.” — Bob, 06:00

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2. Thrifting, Yard Sale Struggles, and Fashion History

(08:28–10:24)

• Monét describes Burlington, Vermont (“Everyone looks like a lesbian here, which is kind of fierce.”), her self-realization that she isn’t much of a thrifter, and Bob’s nostalgic tale of thrift shopping for theater costumes.
• Classic humor about a former teacher called “Ms. N. Finger” (her name was actually Infinger).

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3. Food Fails: Overpriced Sandwiches and Lemonade Discourse

(12:47–17:55)

• Monét details an $18 “half sandwich” disaster and Bob recounts the time Monét devoured a meat-laden pizza.

  • “Whenever I eat bite into a meat lover’s pizza, it just feels ridiculous.” — Bob, 14:16

• Lemonade Showdown:

  • Bob is disappointed by “handmade” lemonade at restaurants: “They’re lying. You did not squeeze lemons. You did not sweat churning this.” (15:51)
  • The conversation escalates to a proposed lemonade (Bob) vs. Caribbean squash punch (Monét) “drink off” at a future party.
  • “My squash will eat. People will gag at my squash over your lemonade.” — Monét, 18:40
  • “If I decided to make the squash, mine would be better than yours. That’s the craziest part.” — Bob, 22:01

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4. Dancing: Talent, Rhythm, “Mover” vs. “Dancer,” and Cultural Commentary

(22:22–43:22; returns at 44:20 and after)

• Dance Ability & Group Choreo:

  • Bob and Monét agree Bob picks up choreography fast but laments losing “the knees”: “I can pop, I can lock, I can drop it. But I can’t bring it back up to do it all over again.” — Bob, 23:37
  • Monét confesses she’s “a mover, not a dancer,” differentiating between having rhythm and mastering choreography.

• Line Dances & Cultural Practices:

  • They reminisce about the Cha Cha Slide, Electric Slide, and Cupid Shuffle, debating if a “gay slide” should be created.
  • “Now, dye your hair blue. Everybody go and dye your hair blue!” — Bob, riffing on how a queer version would sound, 26:11
  • Discussion on how line dances bridge cultures and the struggle of uncoordinated family members at parties.

• Rhythm, Genetics & Culture:

  • Bob argues that rhythm is cultural, not genetic, and touches on stereotypes about Black athletes:
    • “I don’t think it’s genetics that makes Black people historically better rappers than white people. Like, it’s not genetics.” — Bob, 29:14
  • Monét pushes for representation and athletic excellence yet clarifies she’s not asserting racial superiority.
  • Jacob, their recurring fact-checker, provides stats: About 70–75% of figure skaters are white/European descent, 15–20% East Asian, 1–2% Black/African descent (35:33).
  • Hilarious moment: “How many 90-year-old women you think are in Dragula?” — Monét, 46:47

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5. Dancing in Queer Spaces & Drag Legends

(40:23–42:37)

• Monét highlights Leiomy Maldonado’s iconic performance from America’s Best Dance Crew, praising the artistry of blending vogue with hip-hop:
  • “It is one… it’s such a beautiful piece of dancing art. To me, that takes more talent than just doing like a straight up modern thing, bitch. They’re mixing like three or four different types of dance and making this beautiful…thing.” — Monét, 41:03
  • Bob recounts dancers hurting themselves for the art, referencing the dedication (and injuries) of ballroom and ballet cultures.

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6. Dragula & Physical Endurance in Drag

(45:20–49:01)

• The hosts marvel at Dragula’s wild elimination challenges (swimming with sharks, cockroach-blowing, getting tattoos for the show).

• Neither would do well: “You know, I don’t have what it takes to compete in Dragula. And I can acknowledge that.” — Bob, 48:39

• Lighthearted sparring on staple placement:

  • “Staple my belly? That’s fine.” — Bob, 48:59
  • “Your knees can’t take too much more, girl.” — Monét, 49:10

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7. Footwear Woes & Baldness Banter

(49:15–52:25)

• Monét credits open-toed shoes for saving her drag life, as she has wide feet that suffered in pumps; Bob ribs her about years of “one shoe off” drag mishaps.
• Extended, affectionate (and savage) teasing about each other’s hairlines, methods for shaving their heads, and who is “most bald”:
  • “Let me be clear. If we grow this back, one of us gonna be looking like George Jefferson. Only one of us, it’s you.” — Bob, 54:31
  • “You have a whole cul de sac, bitch.” — Bob, 55:10

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Baby, you accusatory.” — Monet, 06:07
• “This lemonade is going to go go. It’s going to go crazy.” — Bob, 17:47
• “You think your handmade punch is gonna be better than my handmade lemonade?” — Bob, 18:05
• “Why is it...at a chemical level, do white people have bad rhythm?” — Monet (joking about group dances), 26:23
• “I aspire to your level of delusion. It is admirable.” — Monet to Bob, 22:03
• “Bring it back up. Dropping is easy. Picking it back up—that’s where the challenge comes in.” — Bob, 24:01
• “We don’t want to use your feet to scare the crows away from our crops.” — Monet (on Bob’s foot secrecy), 52:08

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Leafy Greens Debate: 02:23–07:31
• Thrifting & Thrift Store Fashion: 08:28–10:24
• Sandwich & Lemonade Rant: 12:47–17:55
• Lemonade vs. Squash Punch Rivalry: 17:55–22:22
• Choreography, Rhythm & Dance Lineage: 22:22–29:14
• Group Dances (Cha Cha, Electric, Cupid): 24:20–26:46
• Cultural Representation & Rhythm: 26:34–29:40
• Figure Skating/Race Representation Debate: 29:40–37:08
• Dancer vs. Mover/Performance Pain: 43:22–44:20
• Dragula Challenges: 45:20–49:01
• One Shoe Off/Footwear Solutions: 49:20–52:25
• Baldness Banter: 52:25–55:51

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Episode Tone & Style

True to form, Bob and Monét bring boisterous energy, playful competitiveness, and frequent sidetracks that keep the conversation hilarious and unpredictable. They oscillate between affectionate jabs, genuine insight into dance and drag, and cultural critique—all laced with irreverent, LOL-worthy wit.

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For Listeners: Why This Episode Shines

This episode is Sibling Rivalry at its finest: deep dives into queer dance lineage and performance, honest “mover vs. dancer” self-appraisal, uniquely queer pop culture banter (from the chaos of Dragula to the woes of drag footwear), and hot takes only Bob and Monét could deliver. Whether you’re here for the drag, the dance, or the shade, this one's a blast.

Transcript

[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen

[Monet X Change]

and I'm Monet x Change. And this is simply rivalry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On this week's episode, we argue about who's the most bald.

[Monet X Change]

We talk about dancing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we find out what made Monet say this.

[Monet X Change]

How many 90 year old women you think are in do draguly think? And we found out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That feels like common knowledge.

[Monet X Change]

No, I want to start. We have to start over again. But I wanted people to hear because sometimes Bob has these criminal takes on things and I feel like criminal is wild. When I think when he knows it's criminal, he's trying to be like, well, we don't have to talk about it, Monet. I was like, yeah, I want to know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not true. What it is is sometimes Monet and I will. Because we travel a lot, we have these. Sometimes we have pretty bad wi fi connections and stuff.

[Monet X Change]

So sometimes even at some of us have bad wi fi, you know, sometimes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And that's okay for you. And we ended up having a bad connection this time and I didn't want to redo rehash the conversation. To which Monat goes, I'm an actress. Which lets you all know that she's pretending on the podcast half the time. Let's just. Let's clock that tea.

[Monet X Change]

Why you lying? Why are you lying?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Since you want to be. Since you want to wear a mistress Isabelle Brooks shirt. Let's go ahead and clock that T, honey. Anyway, the take is. And this is. So I'm eating a salad from Chipotle and I do not think. I don't like spinach. I don't feel like I ordered spinach. I don't feel like I asked for spinach, but I ended up with spinach in my bowl. Spinach.

[Monet X Change]

Is that what they put in the salad? Chipotle? They put spinach.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They either put lettuce or spinach. Like. Like iceberg or whatever it is, or spinach, and I ended up with spinach. I'm upset about it. Spinach is not my favorite leafy green. It might be. No, it's not my least favorite leafy green, but it's. It's bottom three for sure.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. How many do you know? I like, like my leafy greens are. I like mixed greens. Romaine. No, mixed greens. Spinach. Romaine. I hate the. Really, like the see through lettuce. What is that? Is that iceberg? I hate iceberg. It's like you're just chewing on fucking water.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Iceberg lettuce. It's not always see through, though.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I say see through. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like almost like white green.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. Can y' all hear that water around me? Okay, if you can't hear it, it's good.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. What is that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's a washer. I'm assuming there's kale, which is the king of. The king of leafy greens. She's number one, the only one. She's the icon. She has a point, and she is the moment. Now, come on now. Like, kale is just the best. It tastes the best. It has that nice little bitterness to it. It bites back just a little bit. It enhances every. You can have it raw, you can have it slightly massaged. You can have it cooked, and it tast tastes better.

[Monet X Change]

Are you out here massaging your kale?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have massaged my kale. Yes, I have. Yes, I have.

[Monet X Change]

V. You don't even cook. You go home, you don't cook. When the Would you cook?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, massaging is not cooking. It's prepping to be clear.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so you. So you just. So you just prepped your kale and then. And then who cooked it and then? Or you just.

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[Monet X Change]

You took your kale.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hold on.

[Monet X Change]

You took your kale off.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When you massage your kale, you put it in. When you massage your kale, you put it in some warm water, and then you take it and then you let it sit there, and then you take it out of the warm water and then you put some oil on it, and then you just give it a slight massage and you slightly crimp it to release the bitterness and the flavors in it. And then you'll mix in, like, some. Then I made, like, an apple. Like, basically I made a Waldorf salad with kale, like, apples.

[Monet X Change]

And that's cooking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, is that cooking? Like, if I make a fruit salad, am I cooking?

[Monet X Change]

Yes. Cooking does not. Cooking doesn't mean heat. Cooking means you prepare. I think you cook food to eat. So you prepare food to eat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're gonna have to go to Google to figure this one out. Because I feel like you can't make a fruit salad and say, I cook this. You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

Yes, you can. I made this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, okay, wait. Oh, here, wait.

[Monet X Change]

I was looking for.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, the first definition is a person who prepares food for eating like a cook. The second one says a technical or industrial process comparable to cooking food. So, like, these definitions are kind of. I was like, what?

[Monet X Change]

Cook?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Verb definition. Cook verb definition.

[Monet X Change]

Or prepare food to be consumed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Prepare food, a dish or meal by combining. Ooh, you will leave out stuff. Ooh, you will leave out things.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I literally. I not. I'm not reading anything. I'm literally just talking out loud. What I think the difference is by

[Bob the Drag Queen]

combining and heating the ingredients in various ways. Heating.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, heating. Eating. So cooking. So cooking implies heat. I didn't know that. Did you know that until just now?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think I implied that. I was like. I don't think you can just say you mix some. You're the one who didn't know that. Don't try to put it back on me. I'm not your mirror, baby. Questions.

[Monet X Change]

Baby, you. You accusatory.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The answer is you didn't know that. Anyway, that being said, kale. So there's kale, there's bok choy.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Actually, there's arugula.

[Monet X Change]

Rocket, as they call it. They call it in the uk and also rocket.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's collard greens, there's super greens. The fuck is a. No, kale is a super. What's a super green?

[Monet X Change]

It's like one you mix. You shave, Brussels sprouts and some other things. Brussels sprouts, cab and something else. They call that a super. Greens. Greens.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, there's. Yeah. I mean, and I'm not really into Rock it, but. Ooh, anytime. There's a kale option. Kale.

[Monet X Change]

Caesar.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Woo.

[Monet X Change]

John and Vinnie in la, they do an arugula salad and it's so well done. They like arugula.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sorry, Arugula is such a ridiculous word.

[Monet X Change]

Who is that? Who's the cartoon that does that? Ahooga.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's the wolf. It's the Looney Tunes wolf within the zoot suit. The wolf in the zoot suit.

[Monet X Change]

In the zoot suit. Yeah. They do night one. They like, take the rocket and then they whatever to it. Salt, vinegar, oil, and they put a little lemon in it with a little. With a light, light, light, light, light Parmesan on there. It's very delicious.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Speaking of the lemon and the reason

[Monet X Change]

I don't like kale is that kale is too coarse. Kale feels like you just shaved off some bark from a tree or you took your foot and you shaved the bottom of it and then you put it in a thing. To me, that's what Kale says.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kayl doesn't like you either.

[Monet X Change]

I don't like her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you hear their music in the background?

[Monet X Change]

I went to school with somebody named Kale. His name was Kale.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you hear that music in the background? No. Okay, good. I need to ask them to, like, have them not blast music right now. Hold on.

[Monet X Change]

Why was flexing that? Flexing? Oh, all right, honey. Bob said shut it down. Shut it down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said. I want to ask them to not tell me. Look at you.

[Monet X Change]

You feeling a puss puss, ain't you? Shut it down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What I said was, I'm going to ask them to have them not blast music right now. And to which you.

[Monet X Change]

Which you interpret as shut it down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Shut it down.

[Monet X Change]

We want to see the text messages. We want to see what you done said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't hear that? They are blasting it.

[Monet X Change]

I think I can hear it now. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm here in Burlington, Vermont, and it's very cute, very sunny, it's very green. I think everyone looks like a lesbian here, which is kind of fierce. And I went to this little flea market yard sale thing and across the. Which I realized I'm not a yard sale person. They have people who are really good at thrifting and vintage finds and getting. I'm just not a good thrifter vintager, are you? I really want to be, but I'm not good at sifting through a bunch of things and trying to find a way. Also, I'm not advertised.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In my youth, I was a great thrifter. I discovered the joy of thrift stores through costume department of my theater program. We would always have to go get our. I mean, my high school didn't have a lot of money, so we had to get our own costumes. So whenever we did, we always got them from the thrift stores. And I figured out how to make like period clothes or style something that looked like it was from the, you know, the 50s. Because we're doing Grease and I had to go do all the shopping and the, the wardrobe. Ms. End Finger. Shout out to Melody. Melanie End Finger.

[Monet X Change]

Ms. N. Finger.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Her name was Melanie Infinger, but she preferred to go by Melanie or Miss. She would prefer to go by Miss Mel because she didn't want the kids to call her Missing Finger.

[Monet X Change]

That's hilarious.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She didn't want to be called Missing Finger. But anyway, so. So I used to be a really great thrifter. I used to be obsessed with thrifting all the time. That's why I used to wear all these vests. When I first moved to New York City. There's. I try to find a slew of pictures that you all can put up in a row of me wearing just vest on vest on vest on vest. I really loved vest back in my day, but I was never much of a vintager like for like furniture and pictures and stuff because I don't really like that. I mean I do have one Life magazine in my living room that I have framed that I think looks really gorgeous.

[Monet X Change]

From your birth year.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it for my birth year, Jacob, or is it just from or did I just think it was cool. I thought it was just like cool looking. I saw it, I was like, wow, what a cool looking Life magazine cover.

[Monet X Change]

Got it.

[Jacob]

Yeah. It's not from Birthmare.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Is there a magazine cover you love to grace? Is it like if you got an offer from your publicist? Like, hey, this magazine wants you to be on the COVID If there was one that you could get, which one would it be? Oh my God, I'm so proud. I'm like, I can't believe I'm on the COVID of this magazine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, which one do you really want? Playboy.

[Monet X Change]

Playboy in drag or out of drag, bitch?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Whatever it takes.

[Monet X Change]

What's the answer?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Either way, you know what's the name was on Bretman Rock was on the COVID Playboy.

[Monet X Change]

I know, he looked so hot. Bretman Rock is bleeding as hot guy. Have you seen his boyfriend? They're hot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which is crazy because I really thought I stood a chance. And then I thought I was like, oh, this is what you pull. Damn, that's crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Matter of fact, I would absolutely watch them. So I need an eyelid. Do you see that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I gotta be honest with you, I'm not particularly interested in continuing the conversation about I live. You're not going to get it. Every, every third episode here I'M sitting

[Monet X Change]

here and I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I could really benefit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, you're right. You desperately need an eye lift. It's desperate at this point, actually.

[Monet X Change]

But I told you the problem. Dr. Davis said, like, I don't have a fucking. I don't have hair. I can't hide anything back here. So it had to be my eyebrow anyway. And I was saying, oh, yeah. So I was walking down around here in Burlington. I stopped at this place to get a breakfast sandwich. I said, best breakfast sandwiches in Burlington, blah, blah, blah. So I get.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, I have. I was just in Burlington. I've literally. I was literally there like two weeks ago.

[Monet X Change]

What's the place when you go toward

[Bob the Drag Queen]

the university, when you walk to the right out of Burlington, out of the comedy club, like out of the coffee shop, you go up the street and then you pass the, like the main campus area and then you turn left on that main street with all those. With all those spots like the coffee shops and stuff. And they have the street kind of shut down. Like a huge base, like a massive sidewalk. I think it might even be like brick or cobblestone down there. And then you look like to your left, it's like across the street from a clothing store. And it says, best breakfast sandwiches in Burlington.

[Monet X Change]

Well, this must be the other place. It was literally right around the corner from where I, like, two blocks down from the Comedy Store.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe they're all the best breakfast sandwiches in Burlington.

[Monet X Change]

Kind of like when you go out to New York and everywhere is number

[Bob the Drag Queen]

one Chinese food, number one pizza, every spot number one slice.

[Monet X Change]

So I got it and you can get it on a bun. I didn't want it on a bun, so I got it on sourdough brunch. She said, you want sourdough? I'm like, sure, bitch. My sandwich was one slice of sourdough bread, right? This is sourdough bread. They cut that in half, made my sandwich all on one half and put the other half on top. So my sandwich was literally half the size of a regular sandwich. And I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So sourdough bread is really big pieces of bread, though. It was like a giant piece of sourdough bread.

[Monet X Change]

Hell no. This was a medium average sized slice of sourdough bread.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was it thick salt? Was it stacked?

[Monet X Change]

No, I mean, I got sausage and bacon on it. So I mean. Cause I got extra shit. But this sandwich was $18. What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nothing. This time Monet came to my apartment and she got a piece a slice of pizza from downstairs. And I had never seen this in my life, y'.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

I gagged. I think this pizza had every piece of meat in this shop available on it. Like, when I tell y' all it was a thin crust, but Monet came up with some Chicago style. Like, this shit was deep dish, but Monet got done dealing with. It was like that.

[Monet X Change]

I love a meat lovers. I love a meat lovers pizza.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I remember looking and being like, this is crazy. Whenever I eat bite into a meat lover's pizza. It just feels ridiculous. Don't you feel ridiculous biting into a meat lover's pizza?

[Monet X Change]

No, I feel delicious.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It doesn't. It doesn't make sense.

[Monet X Change]

What I mean, doesn't make sense? It's just. So what's different than that in like 19, like, than a fucking supreme pizza that has mushrooms, zucchini, eggplant, onions? Like, I don't eat those either.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, everyone knows. Not everyone knows, but my favorite pizza, my friends all know is pepperoni pizza. I prefer thin crust, one kind of meat. I will also eat a chicken barbecue pizza. Ooh.

[Jacob]

Woo.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Chicken barbecue. So good. Or.

[Monet X Change]

Or I was like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I ordered a full sandwich. She's like, that is a full sandwich. And I just put my tail behind my legs. Somebody eliminated. Ate my sandwich.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now.

[Monet X Change]

It was a very. I will. This was a very good sandwich. I was just gagged at how small. I'm gonna go back tomorrow. I have to order two. $36 for a whole sandwich.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have been very disappointed in. I'll tell you guys at this break what I've been disappointed in.

[Jacob]

Actually,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have been incredibly disappointed in the handmade lemonade in restaurants. I've not had a good handmade lemonade since I worked at Jesus Chicken.

[Monet X Change]

Mm. That's. Honestly, that's a. That's a. That's a. That's a pretty. I would say. I would agree with this take. Anytime you get handmade lemonade, it doesn't. It tastes like it's just minute made from the bottle.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're lying. Yeah, because they. It's handmade. Because they're mixing the Minute Maid from the fucking pack themselves instead of connecting it to the. To the fucking carbonation mach. You're lying. You did not squeeze lemons. You did not put sugar in here. You did not sweat turning churning this. You didn't. You're lying to me. And because I used to make lemonade at Jesus Chicken, I know what handmade lemonade tastes like.

[Monet X Change]

So do you. So do you know the recipe?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I can make some. I can make some Lemonade.

[Monet X Change]

Still to this day. Still to this day. If a gun to head, you can make the Jesus chicken lemonade.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but it would be like five gallons of it.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, Bob, scale it down to a smaller size.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet. It's what I have gunned ahead. They didn't say make one cup. They said make some lemonade. So I got you at your next pool party. You want me to bring lemonade to the pool party?

[Monet X Change]

I would vav. I would fucking love that. Okay, but you have to put a little vodka in there too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will not. You can just put vodka on the side. Put vodka on your own. I'm like, why can't you just add your own vodka to it instead of having everyone have the vodka? That sounds wild.

[Monet X Change]

Why can't you just make 2? 1 with vodka, one without?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I'm wondering how am I gonna get it to your house? Traveling with, like more than a gallon of lemonade feels really stressful.

[Monet X Change]

Are you serious about the five gallon thing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I could scale it down if I really needed to.

[Monet X Change]

You could at least do half and do two and a half gallons. You can at least just cut the ingredients in half and make two and a half gallons.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, then what are you gonna. But I feel like bringing less than 2 gallons. How many people are at this party?

[Monet X Change]

I think if I had a party in my home, I would be comfortable. You know, I'm very numbers girl. I think I would be comfortable with 40, about 50 people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's five gallons of lemonade.

[Monet X Change]

But you're assuming everybody wants lemonade. They're gonna be lemonade. I'm not only serving lemonade, it's gonna be other things as well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This lemonade is going to go go. It's going to go crazy. What are the drinks you gonna have? What are you gonna have that's gonna beat my lemonade? What do you have?

[Monet X Change]

There's gonna be like a punch there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's gonna be punch.

[Monet X Change]

There's gonna be what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who's making the punch? Me.

[Monet X Change]

I can make punch. I'm from the Caribbean, bitch. I can.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You think your handmade punch is gonna be better than my handmade lemonade?

[Monet X Change]

100%.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And to be clear, I'm not talking about you pouring cranberry juice and pouring a bunch of juice that already exists. I am squeezing lemons with my hands, nigga.

[Monet X Change]

I'm squeezing my tropical fruits into the thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then pouring in your cranberry juice myself. And then pouring in your cranberries and then pouring in your cranberry juice.

[Monet X Change]

No, I'M going to make bitch, first of all. Okay, you know what? You know what I would do? Oh, bitch, I know how to make squash. Do you know what squash is?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

It's basically Caribbean lemonade. You wanna show up with fucking lemon. You wanna show up with. We make our shit with limes. It's called squash. And my squash will eat. People will gag at my squash over your lemonade.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will give you. First of all, Monet's not gonna bring her Caribbean. Money's gonna show up with a firecracker. Money's gonna show up. Money's gonna show up. Selling them $5 a pop in these unmarked bottles. If y' all don't know a firecracker is. What is it?

[Monet X Change]

Nutcrackers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A nutcracker. Nutcrackers are these.

[Monet X Change]

These.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If at every Pride down near the New Jersey Transit, there's a bunch of kids with coolers selling you nutcrackers. And it is basically a cocktail they made in their home. And then they just bottle them up, bring them over via the PATH train and sell them down on Christopher Street.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, they sell them all over New York. They sell them all over the. All over New York City.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I only sell them down on Christopher Street. I only ever saw them at Pride.

[Monet X Change]

Really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, always.

[Monet X Change]

My friends, we used to buy nutcrackers all the time, like in high school and stuff, and just take them down by the pier and drink them, whatever a mess. And going back to. I can't believe I used to drink. Like, who knows what they were putting in there, but they could have had fentanyl in there. I was drinking. We were just drinking nutcrackers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you and I are gonna have a drink off.

[Jacob]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. We have so many offs. Bitch, come cancel your tour. We need to take a week and record. We gotta go to the gun range. We gotta go to the action throwing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anything you can do is coming back.

[Monet X Change]

It is really coming back, y'. All. Cause my squash mob will gather you. I'm not. I don't even.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not even.

[Monet X Change]

Let me. Let me calm down because.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, you need to calm down before you embarrass yourself.

[Monet X Change]

First of all, because the thing about Americans, like American Americans, Caribbean Americans, know this. Like, we have. I think. I think can y'. Squash St. Lucian thing. I don't know. I don't know if it's all over the Caribbean.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you don't know it, it must

[Monet X Change]

be a seventh thing. Saint Lucians know the deliciousness of squash. And because Americans don't even have a Concept of how delicious this can taste. People is going to blow their fucking minds when I make squash.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And what I'm relying on is for a lot of Americans to have a taste. They remember something that reminds them of home.

[Monet X Change]

It's not even traditional for you. You just taking. Mr. Mister, Mr. Jesus. Chicken recipe is very popular recipe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now, lemonade actually is a Southern thing. Lemonade actually is a Southern thing. If you really now, if I really wanted to. If I really wanted to you up and embarrass the shit out of you, I would make an Arnold Palmer. And really gather you. Really gather you. Because the Arnold Palmer. I cannot wait. Take your little squash. And in four,

[Monet X Change]

we're gonna. Anything you can do is coming back. And my squash. And what are we gonna. We're gonna make them. Then we're gonna go to. On Hollywood and Vine. No, on Hollywood and Sunset Boulevard. And we're gonna be hanging them out. And people are gonna vote for which one tastes the best. Your shit blindly, though. They're not gonna know who made what. And we're gonna see who's gonna win the motherfucking competition. I guarantee you it will be me and not you, you fucking redhead scarf bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And what are you gonna do when you're wrong?

[Monet X Change]

There's nothing. I can't even fathom that. Cause there's no way that I will be wrong.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know what the crazy thing is? This is the craziest part. If I decided to make the squash, mine would be better than yours.

[Monet X Change]

You're so ridiculous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's the craziest part.

[Monet X Change]

I aspire to your level of delusion. Cause I will say it has gotten you very far in life. This level of delusion has gotten you very far in life. And I really, honestly, it is admirable.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I could say the same thing. I could say the same thing. But I'm choosing not to.

[Monet X Change]

It is really fierce, bitch. Even like six dancing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you remember that or what? What are you ki ki ki ki ki ki ki ki. Ing about?

[Monet X Change]

I need to find it. I need to send it to Jay. The video of you and I of Sony doing the cinema live at the Sony Playhouse, whatever. And we're trying to do that, not dance. And Nancy, you and I are out of breath. We are winded. We cannot make it through. It's the most embarrassing. I have that number. I have to find it. So Jacob, put it in this video. Jacob, please. I don't want to stop the podcast, but Jacob, remind me. We have to put this in the video. This is a very important video. That we have to put it here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, and I have to put in all the pictures of me and my vest. No, I think that I. Well, when it comes to dancing, I certainly consider myself someone who can dance. I have rhythm. I have pretty good rhythm, actually. And I tend to be able to pick up on choreography pretty easily. You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

You do pick up choreography. You pick up choreography fast. I will say that. But you do pick up choreography very fast. But also, you have a good memory.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do have a good memory. I don't. I do not have the knees in me anymore. Like, I do not have the knees in me anymore. I don't. I'm not that girl. I will never be that girl again. It's only going to get worse as I get older. Unless I do something about it. And then it might get a little better. Then it'll get worse again. But I do not have the pop, lock and drop. I can pop, I can lop. I can drop it. But I can't bring it back up to do it all over again.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Dropping is easy. Picking it back up. That's where the challenge comes in.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, literally.

[Jacob]

You.

[Monet X Change]

You literally told us how to do this in your song.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bring it back up in verse first. Yeah, but you know, I was telling people to do what to do also.

[Monet X Change]

I remember.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think I miss when dance songs used to tell you exactly what to do. Slide to the left, slide to the right. One hop this time. So, like, everybody stand up, go to the bar, get a drink. Now, y'. All.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my gosh. Should you and I make the new cha cha slide? The gay like, Bob, should we write the new gay cha cha slide that all the gay bars like, did you know? Cause the chaos slide is a very. An electric slide are very big for the black community. At mostly every celebration, a wedding, a birthday party, kick house, whatever. We do the song. We should make one for the gays to do at the gay bar.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do y' all do that in New York? Is that a thing? Do I do it in the Caribbean? Do y' all do the Chacha slide? Oh, I didn't know that.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I will say in the south, you will do the electric slide. But it isn't. It's very rarely to the song the electric Slide.

[Monet X Change]

You don't have to do it go to any song.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Only do the cha Cha slide to the cha Cha slide.

[Monet X Change]

Cause that one is so specific.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but the electric slide, you very. You rarely hear it. Is the electric Slide. That's pretty Rare to hear that song. Yeah. Although. Oh, my God, I haven't heard the electric slide in so long.

[Monet X Change]

But it's electric boogie woogie, woogie, woogie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's the one that goes? Now kick, now kick, now kick, now kick.

[Monet X Change]

To the front, to the front.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is that song? Cupid Slide. The Cuban shuffle.

[Monet X Change]

The Cupid Shuffle.

[Jacob]

There we go.

[Monet X Change]

Bob, we gotta make the gay one. The gay is the. Sorry. We need to make the queer slide song. Like, the queers need a slide. Although. But the thing about. I mean, we've all been at. I know I have. In my family, we have some white folk and watch. Sometimes it is pain. It's painful to get the white people on the right beat to do the electric or the cupid.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We just make it easy. We used to be like, now dye your hair blue. Dye your hair blue. Everybody go and dye your hair blue.

[Monet X Change]

So I think it'll be really hard to make a queer slide because, girl, white people. Why is it. Why, at a chemical level, do white people have bad rhythm?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I don't think that white people inherently have bad rhythm. I think that it's the reason why Filipino people can sing so well. I don't think that they have a genetic code that makes them better singers. I think they're steeped in music culture from a very, very young age, which happens to be why a lot of Filipin, not all Filipinos, just happen to be really good singers because they are just singing nonstop. There's karaoke at the mall, karaoke at the. Every party. They're just always fucking singing karaoke all the time. And I think that dancing and music is a big part. Specifically, dancing is a big part of black culture. And not all white people have that because there are obviously a lot of white people with really fucking great rhythm. You know what's weird to me?

[Monet X Change]

That's true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I tell you a really hot take? Oftentimes, people I know who are ballet dancers don't have rhythm.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know a lot of ballet dancers. So I can't even. I can't even. I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, they're not. Like, whenever they try to do something that's not ballet, I'd be like, what the fuck is this? What's happening? Why does it look like that?

[Monet X Change]

I don't know if I agree with your take before, because, for example, like, obviously not all black people are great athletes, but black people, I think genetically we are, like, across. We're more superior and we are better in sports than white folks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I would like to give you the option to reflect on that and how problematic it could be when insinuating that black people are big, stronger.

[Monet X Change]

I did not say that. Did not say big and stronger and stronger.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know what I'm saying? But it could insinuate, why does he

[Monet X Change]

be the biggest or the strongest to be a good athlete?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I just want to let you know that it could lean that way, which could lead to this notion that black people are bigger, stronger, and more athletically inclined than white people, which makes us ultimately kind of scarier, which makes it feel like we can't experience pain at the same level. I'm not saying. You're saying that. I'm asking you to.

[Monet X Change]

I want to be very clear about. That is not what I'm trying to say. That is a whole lot of things on what I'm trying to say, which is literally not in neighborhood of what I'm trying to say.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I'm just trying to let you know how you can reflect on how that could be inferred, because a lot of people use that kind of notion. They were using that to see why black people shouldn't be allowed to play basketball, why black people shouldn't be allowed to run in sports, why black people shouldn't be allowed to box, because they're just these big, strong super Negroes who are gonna beat up us white people.

[Monet X Change]

I hear that inference, and that is neither what I'm trying to say. I'm saying that if you look at the history, like black folk, we just excel at sports. We are very good at sports. And that does not mean we are the biggest, not mean we are the strongest. That just means that we are just genetically we are fucking good at sports. Like, whatever that means.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That might not be genetics, though. It might be something else. Like, for example, I don't think it's genetics that makes black people historically better rappers than white people. Like, it's not genetics.

[Monet X Change]

Well, that goes. No, but that's different. That's rhythm.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But it could be. But it could be cultural. Like, for example, I think that white people tend to be better ice skaters. I don't think that's genetics. I think it's cultural.

[Monet X Change]

But is that true, though? White people tend to be good at ice skating. Is that true? I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They have more. If you look at the gold medals, more white people have more. White people, even if you look at

[Monet X Change]

it, I don't know, Even if you

[Bob the Drag Queen]

look at it in comparison to how many in relation to population, you know what I mean? Percentage compared to population. There's gonna be more white people. Or if you look at gymnastics or something. Well, not gymnastics, because Simone Biles has done change that game.

[Monet X Change]

But it's probably Dominique Gauss. A lot of the black people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's probably more of a cultural thing than it is a. Like, black people are genetically better at sports. There's no. There is no. Nothing to support that. You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know. I'm looking. I don't think white people have more medals than figure skating. I don't think that's true. I'm trying to find some. I don't think that's a thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you name a black figure skater?

[Monet X Change]

I don't. I can't name a white one either. The only figure skater I can name is Michelle, the one I told you who is the cultural. Sorry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can't name more than one figure skater. You can't name Johnny Weird.

[Monet X Change]

John. Oh, Johnny Weir. I remember her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can't name.

[Monet X Change]

Tanya isn't Johnny. We're Asian.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Johnny Weir is a man. Johnny Weir is a white man.

[Monet X Change]

Say that she wasn't a woman or. I said. I just said I heard of her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jenny Weir's a white man from America. Johnny Wears.

[Monet X Change]

I thought Johnny Weird was Asian.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You never heard of Tanya Harding?

[Monet X Change]

I'm talking about. She's the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You never heard of Tanya Harding?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah. I. Tanya? Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You never heard of Nancy Kerrigan?

[Monet X Change]

Those two in that movie?

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Christy Yamaguchi.

[Monet X Change]

Don't know who that is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't know who Christy Yamaguchi is?

[Monet X Change]

No, I know Michelle Juan.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Apollo. Anton Ono.

[Monet X Change]

Is that Yoko Ono san?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, he's a. Jesus Christ. That was crazy.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not a Winter Olympics girly. I'm not a Winter Olympics girly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not either. But these are. But they're huge. They're huge athletes. Apollo. Anton. I don't know. Is this speed skater?

[Jacob]

Speed skating?

[Monet X Change]

No one's watching speed skating.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Someone's watching speed skating, I assure you.

[Monet X Change]

Duh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But yeah, I can name lots. I can name. I can name a few figure skaters.

[Monet X Change]

Debbie Thomas.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thomas. Who is this woman?

[Monet X Change]

Who is she?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just a black figure skater?

[Monet X Change]

No, she's a black figure skater.

[Jacob]

So I did some research.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did I say skater? Is that what I said?

[Jacob]

There might be more, but as what I can tell. Just doing quick research. It looks like there have been three black women who've been in the Olympics. Figure skating. There might be more, but that was just what I found quickly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like, it's pretty common. That feels like common knowledge, being. Than black people in the Olympics. She's the one. She's the one who did the backflip. I remember the moment she was the

[Monet X Change]

first one to go back to the

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Olympics, and it was illegal when she did it, but then after she did it, it became, like, cool to do. Monet. What's quite. Is it even being presented with the

[Monet X Change]

fact that there's not a lot of

[Bob the Drag Queen]

black women in figure skating, you're still like, it's not true.

[Monet X Change]

I don't say there's not a lot of black women in America.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In America, there are more white women figure skating than black women.

[Monet X Change]

I'm like, I don't know if that's true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

Is that true? Is it a fact, Jacob? Like, I think there are a lot of. I think. I mean, there are a lot of Asian women that figure skate as well, is for. I mean, just because I. One of the top ones I know is Michelle Kwan. She's like, the most decorative figure skater that we have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's Asian.

[Monet X Change]

Is Chris. Is Christy Yamaguchi a white. A white woman. An Asian woman. Right. So, like, I didn't say more white women.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And the most figure skating in America there are black,

[Monet X Change]

you said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think they're also more. How many black women have won medals in the Olympics for figure skating? Jacob? I mean, also, even that way is still. Still probably gonna be the same way. I'm talking about black people. We're talking about black people excelling in sports because they're genetically.

[Monet X Change]

The original quote was white women or white people have the most.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, there are more white people figure skating in America than black people. That seems like common knowledge to me. Just like there are more white people in the PGA than there are black people. That just seems like common knowledge to me.

[Monet X Change]

Well, that I know because. That. I know that because of Tiger was history and how he broke so many barriers because he was, like, one of the first black men. Or not. Maybe not one of the first or whatever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also growing up knowing that it's

[Monet X Change]

cultural, that makes sense.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So what I'm saying is I don't think black people are better at sports. I don't think it's genetics. I think it's a cultural thing.

[Monet X Change]

I'm trying to find, like, this breakdown of people in figure skating.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why don't you let Jacob do that while we continue talking?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Jacob, look up some more sass on the figure skating thing. I don't know if figure skating.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Somehow you're trying to Paint a notion that figure skating is a sport that is predominantly black, which you're never gonna find that.

[Monet X Change]

I never said that is not the notion I'm trying to talk about. I'm trying to talk about this statistic. We were talking about figure skating. Now my brain is like, oh, figure skating. But we're naming a lot of Asian women who are good into sport. I'm just curious as to what is the demographic. Who is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We named two Michelle Kwan and Chris Yamaguchi.

[Monet X Change]

And those are probably the two most popular ones. Would you disagree?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. A lot of. I think Tonya Harding and Nancy Kerrigan, but that's because of the scandal.

[Monet X Change]

They had drama like one try to break someone's legs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then there's also Johnny Weird. And then I also was talking about speed skater Apollo Anton Ono, who is a.

[Monet X Change]

Who is an Asian American man.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's not. He's a white and Mexican.

[Monet X Change]

Got it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Ono.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What? Apollo Anton Ono.

[Jacob]

Okay, I have some numbers. Keep in mind this is just done from a quick Google search over, like, a couple sites. So it looks like 70 to 75% of figure skaters roughly are white or European descent. That's like Russia, Sweden. I would say East Asian. It looks like somewhere between 15 and 20% for East Asian. And then black and African descent, 1 or 2%. And then other like miscellaneous is 3 to 5%.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That feels so. Black people are the smallest part of figure skating. I feel like everyone knows black folks don't be figure skating.

[Monet X Change]

No one was saying the argument was not about black people. I was more so saying white people. It was about black people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was saying there are more people.

[Monet X Change]

No, no, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Originally I said there are more white people figure skating than black people.

[Monet X Change]

No, you said no, that was not what you said. We need to rewind. Jay, play the clip. You said that white people have the most medals of figure skating. I'm like, is that true? Because my is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then I also said there are more white people figure skating than black people. I've said that several times.

[Monet X Change]

But that was not the original argument. So my brain is going, well, the ones that I. The most popular names that I know, figure skating are Asian. I was thinking Michelle Kwan, Johnny Ware, who I thought was Asian, who was not, apparently. And then you say Chrissy Yamaguchi because that's like your favorite figure skater, right? You've talked about her before. So that's my favorite.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's not my favor. I don't have a favorite figure skating. I'm not really into figure skating.

[Monet X Change]

Like that. So in my brain, I'm going, like, it seems like there are a lot of Asian people who do very well in figure skating. So that's in my. It wasn't a black and white thing. It was like white people. I think maybe Asian. Asian people might be dominating the sport, but apparently it is white folk.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, clearly we're having two different conversations.

[Monet X Change]

We are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was right either way. Anyway.

[Monet X Change]

We're talking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I was right. But I was right either way.

[Monet X Change]

Instead of talking to each other.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I was right either way.

[Monet X Change]

Let's go back to dance. Oh, I was gonna say. So in sports like this, like, when you do, like, for example, like, if I guess you need to have a rubric to judge people so you can, like, everyone. So there's a fair way to judge everyone. But bitch, if I bust out a backflip and it's not allowed yet, like, bitch, just give me. Give me the. Give me the highest mark that you would score that. But I guess no. Cause you have to, like, there's like a council kind of why they took Jordan Chiles. Her. Not why they took her medal, or they're trying to take her medal away because Jordan Child, she won the bronze for women's all round or women's ball.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is all round?

[Monet X Change]

What is that all around gymnastics? Like, you do all five categories and she did a move or something. Anyway, long story short, there's a council of people that they have to go back and forth. So I guess if you do a move that isn't cleared by the council yet, it wouldn't be fair because then you can't adequately judge it. And so I'm kind of answering my own question, but I'm like, if you are fierce and can do a move that everybody else can't do, like, bitch, Give me my 10. Give me my tens.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I guess I don't really understand the rubrics of ruling, and I don't really get it, to be honest, but apparently this happened with that French lady when she did a backflip at the Olympics. I saw like a little short, a short mini doc on this backflip. It was really legendary and it was really emotional and everyone went crazy. But she received low scores because of the backflip. And I think she's the first person to do a backflip at the Olympics. And then there was one with. And I believe there was something with. I can't remember I Tonya very well, but I feel there was something about her doing like a certain number of turns or something. But when she did it, they didn't make it illegal, but maybe they did. There was something about her doing, like, a certain number of turns that no one had ever done before. But honestly, I can't remember. I wish I could remember it better than I do. I'm just gonna stop because I don't.

[Jacob]

The triple axel. She was the first woman to complete a triple axel, which is, I believe you launch in the air and do three turns, triple axel.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And land on one foot.

[Jacob]

100% sure. But, yes, that was her thing. The triple axel.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, and then. I mean. But then also, you look at old videos. Let me just get back to dancing. We look at old videos of, like, when they show, like, the flashbacks and Olympics of, like, you know, the 70s or the 80s. It's just like, how complex gymnastics has gotten in the past, what, 70, 50 years is kind of crazy. Like, the moves they're doing, they just seem so simple and so clean. And as time has gone on, these girls are doing these crazy twirls and flips and dips. I mean, Simone Biles has, like, three moves named after her. Like, the Biles. Like, you go and someone does a wchenko. That's named after someone. And Simone Biles, in her time as one of the greatest athletes of all time, is doing, landing her moves that are named after her. That shit is fucking bomb.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's basically me with drag. Basically.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway, so dancing, one of the most.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, someone who, like, changes the game and people imitate my stuff and, like, do what I try to do, what I do.

[Monet X Change]

The clip that came up that I live for.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why are you brushing over that is.

[Monet X Change]

What's her name? Legendary. Leiomy. Leiomy Maldonado.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hold on. Why are we brushing past my impact?

[Monet X Change]

Leiomy Maldonado at America's best dance crew, or. No, it wasn't America's best dance crew. Yeah, it was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was America's best dance crew with

[Monet X Change]

Vogue, Evolution, and them doing, like, doing the Beyonce Crazy in Love number. And like, in my mind, it is one. To me, it's such a beautiful piece of dancing art. Cause you're seeing they're taking the dancing style of Vogue and infusing it with hip hop and R and B. And it is so seamless in my mind. To me, that takes more talent than just doing, like, a straight up imma. Just do a modern motherfucking thing, bitch. They're mixing, like, three or four different types of dance and making this beautiful fucking thing. It's one of my favorite videos online.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just remember specifically her running up those guys backs in high heels.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then jumping off and doing a diff. And I was like, stepping on my back in high heels is diabolical.

[Monet X Change]

I think she was doing. She's on the balls of her feet still.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What if you slip? Now what? Now I got a back piercing.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, well, let me tell you something. You watch Vulgar. Vulgars are. I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's a lot of these dancers. I don't know if y' all know this. All these dancers, if you ever travel with dancers, they're all wearing knee pads, knee braces, fucking back braces, wrist, wrist braces, the crutches. They are hurting themselves. They are breaking their bodies into pieces.

[Monet X Change]

Not at balls they don't be wearing. Sometimes they do, but sometimes they'd be at balls in videos and stuff. They just be there with just their bare knees. Just over and over.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, when they're there, but then when they go to fucking, when you see them rehearsing in the studio, what they got on a knee brace, a back brace, a leg brace, an ankle brace.

[Monet X Change]

They're all hurting, like, even to contort, even when you're doing a dip in your heel sometimes. What's her name? Kamalae was like, bitch, I have all these scars on my back from my heel, like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Exactly. These people are hurting themselves. Like, these dancers are beating themselves to smithereens to give you a little pot of beret.

[Monet X Change]

Ballet dancers. But J toes be fucked up. So at PPAs we had the ABT department, which was the American Ballet Theater. So the dancers would always be in the hallways stretching their fan. Bitch. And their feet be fucked, girl. Their shit be bleeding. Their shit. They literally bleed for their art. Daily shit is fucked up. I couldn't be a dancer. I just don't have it in me. I call you said that I can move very well. I have a bad memory, so it takes me a while to remember. Choreo in the moment. I can do it. It takes me a while to remember it. And I had to really practice it over and over and over. So it gets just in my body, so I'm not thinking about it. But I would consider myself more of a mover, not a dancer. I can move, I have rhythm. But I wouldn't say I'm a dancer. I wouldn't categorize myself as a dancer. I say that I'm a mover.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's the difference between a mover and a dancer?

[Monet X Change]

I think a mover is someone who has good rhythm and can, like, I can find a beat to A song and, like, I can step and I can chill in the club. I can give, like. You know, I can give, like, I'm moving to the thing, but you throw choreo at me. Choreo takes me a long time. I think dancers are good at choreo. Like, you can, like. You can, like, pick up choreo pretty quickly. I can't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I mean, I feel like it would make. Maybe what makes a dancer is someone who, like, practices it a lot and, like, maybe has a history in it outside of just doing it, you know, at the club for fun. I would say I'm someone who moves. I would never call myself a dancer in a million years, but typically speaking, whenever I'm part of something and there's time to learn choreography, and I learned it. Someone's always like, oh, my God, Bob, you learned that? And I'm like, yeah, I can dance. I always seem shocked, shocked that I can dance. It, like, blows people's minds.

[Monet X Change]

Like, oh, well, maybe you start calling yourself a dancer then. I don't think she can dance so well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I mean. But I don't feel like a dancer. But it is weird that everyone's always shocked that I can dance. I'm always like, what y' all think I was gonna be up here? What'd y' all expect?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Even though you ever get there, folks are like, oh, you can dance.

[Monet X Change]

No, I think because a lot of people, if they're digesting or know me from Drag Race, I think Drag Race has painted a picture of me, that I'm a dancer or I can dance very well. So I don't. I don't get people shocked that I can dance.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, there's no. There's really no dancing of me on Drag Race at all. And there's certainly not. Well, there is a lot of dancing of me on. We're here, actually, but I guess people aren't watching.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

damn. Ate us up with that one, y'. All.

[Monet X Change]

Hey, you up?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Four Seasons is actually a great run. That's a. That is a great run for TV show. That's one season less than Breaking Bad.

[Monet X Change]

The girls over there at Dragala, they are turning it out, apparently, for the first extermination this season. The budget is off the charts because for the first challenge, the person who was exterminated, they took them to an island or took them somewhere, and they had to go swim with sharks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, what?

[Monet X Change]

That's what I see on my Twitter. I was like, what? I was like, the Boulay brothers are as the extermination as the examination has to go swim with live sharks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wouldn't do it.

[Monet X Change]

I wouldn't do it either.

[Jacob]

I mean, how do they make a winner out of that? Like, I don't know, whoever was the least afraid with the sharks, like, what. What is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who's eating the least?

[Monet X Change]

I. I don't know.

[Jacob]

I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

I just saw it on Twitter.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was arbitrary. It feel. Honestly, it feels like a lip sync for your life. Where the judges. I like that one more. I've seen a few that were more like. There was one where you had to. Like there was a cockroach in a tube and you have to blow the cockroach into the other person's mouth. Like you're blowing the cockroach.

[Monet X Change]

No, no, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So basically, you have to sustain your breath longer or else you get a cockroach in the mouth.

[Monet X Change]

Send me home. Could you do that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It depends on who I'm going against. If I'm going against an opera singer, they'd probably be able to blow it into my mouth. But if I'm going against, like, I don't know, a 90 year old woman, she's gonna be chewing on bugs.

[Monet X Change]

How many 90 year old women you think are in do Dragula think?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know how them bitches are. I don't know how old the ghouls are. Are they ghouls or monsters? Monsters, ghouls. The Dragula ghouls. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I heard about the stapling one. The tattoo. The tattoo one. Someone just. Other cast may have to tattoo you, right? Or something like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, they get a Dragula tattoo. So you get either the bulets or dragula tattoo on your body, and then one of them got the tattoo tattoo and still got eliminated.

[Jacob]

So it's. You choose where the tattoo is, but somebody else in the cast choose which one of the awful tattoos you get

[Monet X Change]

by Awful. Like what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, they're nice tattoos. It's just a Dragula tattoo. Oh.

[Jacob]

Or it's like. It's like cum slut. Like, dumb. Like, Like, I don't know, like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But it wasn't. I thought they were Dracula specific tattoos. I feel like I remember. Yeah, yeah, that's possible.

[Jacob]

Let me look into it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But yeah, I believe it was James Majesty who got a Dracula tattoo, but she won that challenge. It was someone else lost that week and then they ended up with. They just got eliminated and now they have, like, the bullets tattooed on them.

[Jacob]

I also think they did it twice.

[Monet X Change]

Also. Is it.

[Jacob]

I remember Hollow Eve Got a tattoo in their armpit.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, that's a sensitive spot. That's a sensitive spot. Is how big Was it this big? Or was it like. Like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe like that? Or that.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, that's the tattoo?

[Jacob]

Yeah. This is a tattoo. So they are Dragula themed, but they're also like.

[Monet X Change]

You're a. I'm a filthy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm a creep. I'm leaking. Bander is better than me, hon.

[Monet X Change]

They're kind of fierce. That's. That's fierce. I. I would get that. I would get that.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I don't have what it takes to compete in Dracula. And I can acknowledge that.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, for sure. I would do horrible at Dragula. These sounds horrible. The stapling thing. Stapling me. That sounds crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, staple where my butt. That'll be fine.

[Monet X Change]

No, I don't want.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Staple my belly. That's fine.

[Monet X Change]

Staple your belly?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that's fine.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. Where's not fine?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My shoulder, my knees, my elbows, my ankles, my feet, my hands.

[Monet X Change]

Your knees can't take too much more, girl. Your knees cannot take too much more.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And what can your feet take?

[Monet X Change]

My. I'm getting my feet done, Honey, with

[Bob the Drag Queen]

your brand new toes, it's gonna be everything, bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Y' all gonna be sick of seeing my feet after I get them done. Y' all gonna be sick of my feet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wanna be clear, Monet. What's making your feet hard to walk on is not the corns.

[Monet X Change]

Honey, my feet are hard to walk on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's the explosions. We're not gonna go down this path. We're not gonna go down the path of all the videos of you standing on one foot. We're not gonna do this again.

[Monet X Change]

We've done this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You've been exposed.

[Monet X Change]

I've since fixed the problem. The problem was I was wearing pumps. I think my toes. I don't wear pumps anymore. That's why open toed shoes. Open toe shoes have changed my drag life. Like now I leave my room in my heels. And I just wear my heels at the club, whenever the club. And I come home, like, I don't need to change. Cause open toed shoes have changed my life. Closed toed shoes. Cause I have wide feet. So Chloe soldier, taking my wide ass feet and putting them in a point like this for hours was destroying me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet said it here. You will never catch her with one shoe off again. So if you see her out there with one shoe off, take a picture. It's the rarest day on earth.

[Monet X Change]

It is. It will be a very rare day, honey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I still cannot forget when you was like, I never. And then the girls started coming through with all these pictures of you balancing on one. If y'.

[Jacob]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The real ones. If you were around for that one. Y', all. Y'.

[Monet X Change]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This pimple on my face is in insane. It's pretty big, this one giant pimple. Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

Honestly, I thought it was a little Marilyn. I was like, oh, she's getting back in her piercing. I was gonna ask you, and I forgot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You knew this was a pimple. I said it before we started filming.

[Monet X Change]

No, you didn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, I did.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I didn't hear when you said that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You responded to it. You literally responded to it.

[Monet X Change]

I did not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob was here for it. I'm glad that I did not.

[Monet X Change]

I did not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet, we already know for a fact that you will lie. We know you'll lie. We know you would just make things up.

[Monet X Change]

Nigga, I did not see you talk about this probably before I joined the Zoom, or the Riverside, whatever you want to call it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, you were here. You even responded to it. You guys just acknowledged that's what you did.

[Monet X Change]

I did not. And I'm not going to take your warped perception of reality. I did not. I did not even hear about this. I literally came in and I was like, oh. And I was like. And I saw also. I didn't want to talk about it on camera. I was like, when we end the camera, I was like, girl, you get back in. Because I wasn't sure what it was, because also, your camera's very blurry. I can't even see you right now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My camera's not blurry. My connection's not great.

[Monet X Change]

The camera's not blurry. Your connection is unstable, much like the host.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which one you? Which one you? Cuz I'm not the only one hosting this show, honey. Talk about stable. Put on a closed toe pump and let's see how stable you are.

[Monet X Change]

First of all, with your fucking hot toes out here, you got what to talk with your.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, there is. There is not a. There is not a single footage of me ever, anywhere, dangling off of a shoe.

[Monet X Change]

Toes. Honey, please.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You will never. There is not a. You can scour the earth. There is no footage of me with one shoe on, one shoe off, standing on my tiptoe ever, anywhere.

[Monet X Change]

Because we don't want to use your feet to fucking scare the crows away from our crops, okay? Because you still keep them bitches locked up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In my 15 to 16 years of doing drag at an excellent level, it's Never happened once.

[Monet X Change]

Excellent. Yeah, excellent, Egg. Excellent.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Unlike you. No. You over there sitting, looking like a whole Cadbury, calling me Egg Cellent.

[Monet X Change]

You got some nerve, bitch. You a fucking Christmas Cadbury with your fucking red tip on your head. You got some nerve, nigga. You are crazy looking like a whole Cadbury.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Got to call me. How often did you get called Milk Dud when you start shaving your head?

[Monet X Change]

I don't know. I don't think I get called Milk Dud often. I don't think so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, let me be the first. No, I'm kidding. I first started getting called Milk Dud.

[Monet X Change]

Does Rob help you shave your head now?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do what?

[Monet X Change]

Does Rob help you shave your head now?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, honestly, whoever's near me will help me. Jacob helps me sometimes. Rob helps me a lot. Cause Rob is here. Kennedy would help me a lot. I basically do my whole head. And then I'm like, can you just point where I missed.

[Monet X Change]

Well, Bob. I tried to give Bob several hacks. So you don't just ask people, but you just will not take my advice. No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You want me to use the foils? I'm telling you, I can't use those on my channel.

[Monet X Change]

No, not the foil, babe. I literally said, what I do is I take the mirror, I put my back to it, and I can see. So I don't need anyone to show me anything.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do that as well. But sometimes someone can get up and look closer. Like, I do think I'm just. You think I don't use a mirror?

[Monet X Change]

Well, bitch, I never have. I never miss a spot. So. What are you doing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I hold up a mirror and I go. I hold up a mirror and I just go like this. Actually, I do it from the front. I look in the mirror. Like, I look in the big mirror and I use a small mirror.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, no. I use. I turn my back to the big mirror. Cause then there's more. You can see more. Like, it's a bigger surface, but you can see closer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When you do it this way, I

[Monet X Change]

just go put my head all the way back. I'm, like, pretty much touching it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Basically, my Apple system. That works. We're good.

[Monet X Change]

It doesn't work. Cause you gotta ask people to, like, did I miss a spot? Show me to me, Kennedy. Show me to me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's someone helping me. I have a system.

[Jacob]

Maybe he just has more hair growing.

[Monet X Change]

That's not true. Yeah, that's not true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now, Monet, listen, let me tell you right now. We both know I have more hair growing than you.

[Monet X Change]

This is a Fact, nigga, you are vav. You have this gone. I have this gone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's be clear. Let me be clear.

[Monet X Change]

I knew it was coming. Are you ever gonna retire that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Baby, if we grow this bag, one of us gonna be looking like George Jefferson. Only one of us, it's you.

[Monet X Change]

Well, no, I'm not George. You.

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[Monet X Change]

You go. You. Oh, no, I can't say that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

[Monet X Change]

He passed away. Who you gonna have the John Amos.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

John Amos. But, Monae, you are missing the whole thing.

[Monet X Change]

I'm missing? Yeah, I'm missing here?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, bitch, Monet, don't play games with me.

[Monet X Change]

I'm missing here?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Monet and all the way to the front. Don't act like you're. Just don't act like you. You got a hairline.

[Monet X Change]

My hairline. That's what I said I'm missing here is what I said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Monet, mine does this. I have an m, bitch. You have a fucking. You have a cold attack.

[Monet X Change]

You are wario down here, nigga. You are wario.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you have a. You have a whole cul de sac, bitch. Don't play games with me, Honey. I could grow. I could.

[Monet X Change]

I, I. I could still be saved

[Bob the Drag Queen]

by finessea ride, okay?

[Monet X Change]

No, you cannot, nigga. You are far gone for finesse. You. You bitch. You finesse tried that shit, bitch. Finessa ride would come to you and

[Bob the Drag Queen]

be like, what we supposed to do here?

[Monet X Change]

You finesseda tried it. That's what you did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We can maybe do some eyebrows, maybe

[Monet X Change]

we can do some brows, but we ain't got nothing else in us. You need eyebrows,

[Jacob]

Nigga.

[Monet X Change]

You need eyebrows.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I shave my eyebrows, honey.

[Monet X Change]

Let it be known I cannot deal with you. I think on that note, we're done.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, we're done. I'm gonna get me a Coke Zero. I deserve it after this shit.

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[Monet X Change]

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