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My name is bob the drag queen,
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and I'm monet x change, and this is sibling rivalry. On this week's episode, Violet Chachki Saves the Podcast, we talk about desert animals, and we find out what made Bob say this.
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Does anyone like us? And we find out what made Monet say this.
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All of my friends are white. I do not know any people of color.
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I woke up very angry with you.
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Why? What happened?
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And I was livid. I was like, I was so mad at you when I woke up this morning.
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Why?
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I was considering ending the friendship.
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What happened?
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It was something you did to me in a dream.
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What did I do in a dream?
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So we were podcasting at, like, some studio. Like, it was. It looked like a iheartradio or serious or something like that. And we were podcasting, and I kept. Like, I was talking to you, but you kept talking to people on the phone or, like, some. There was someone behind you. And, like, while I was trying to podcast, you were like, yeah. And that's when I told her I
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didn't even want to.
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And I was like, monique, can you do the podcast with me? And you were like, keep talking. Talk. I'm just doing something else. But this went on for, like, 15 minutes of the podcast, and. And I was so angry that I rage quit the podcast. And then you were like, you're being dramatic. And I was like, no, Monat, we're, like, trying to do our podcast together, and I'm trying to literally work with you and communicate with you as your friend, and it feels like you don't wanna do this project with me. It feels like you're not interested in podcasting anymore. And you were like. And then you were. You were acting like I was being really dramatic. And I was like, monet, it's just not professional for, like, a 15 minute. I remember, like, I. I fucking timed it. I was like, it's not professional. For a 15 minute of the podcast, you did not say a word. And not to me, but you're speaking to other people also, away from the microphone. And then in this building, we were in, like, one of those giant buildings, like, one. You know, like, one of those skyscrapers where, like, you're just in the building somewhere. Violet Chachki was DJing a party in the building.
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So I went to Violet, and I
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was like, violet, like, can you believe Monet did this? And she was like, girl, it's okay. Sometimes when you. When you have your best friend, you work together, they're gonna have off days, and it's probably not personal, and it probably doesn't have anything to do with you. And I was like, no, I'm done. I'm not doing the podcast anymore.
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Like, I look at the voice of reason. This was definitely a dream.
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We were. So. I caught Violet by the front door, and it was like one of those, like, long runner tables, and we were, like, looking at ourselves in the mirror. And then she pulled me into the bathroom, and she was like, I go to this with God mix sometimes, but I just try to give her the space that she needs and. And make sure that she knows that she's being heard. And it probably isn't about you. And I would say, honestly, just put that episode in the. In the trash. Don't air it, and work out your grievances together. And. And then you came around the corner. And then I woke up, and I was. I've been sleeping on my arms lately, and my arms have been falling asleep. Every morning I wake up, my hands are completely numb. One of my hands, like, I can't even feel it. Like, literally, like, not even tingling. Like, it feels like I don't even have fingers. Like, these two fingers were gone.
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Like, you see from, like, this.
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I don't know how I'm sleeping. I just wanna wake up and I'm like, ugh, I can't move this. And then I was probably. It took me maybe, like, 10 to 15 minutes to realize that it was a dream.
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Like.
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Like, I was so angry with you this morning. I was like. And I was about to call you and be like, that was so ridiculous. And then I was like, that didn't happen. We don't. We're not in a big building. That's crazy.
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So what I take away from that is you were talking shit about me to Viola Chachki. That sounds about right.
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And I was speaking my truth to Violet. And honestly, Violet saved our podcast.
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Girl, there's no way. Violet would never be like, yeah, fuck her. Burn the witch with her.
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She's wearing a red dress with, like, some, like, dangly sequins on it. Like, the sequins were, like, dangling from it. And she was. And she had a.
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That's so weird, because the devil normally wears a blue dress.
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Oh, my God. And then she had her hair parted down the middle. Long black hair. And she. So, Violet, thank you for saving our podcast this morning. You really talked me off a ledge.
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Is Violet considered goth?
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No, Mick is Goth.
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Mick is Goth. I think Violet is, like, Goth adjacent, though. Like, look at some of Violet stuff. She can get pretty it's like. It's like pinup Goth adjacent.
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Well, she's dark sided for sure. Like in her appearance. No, her appearance is like a little bit dark sided. It's all got a little edge. But is it because she has. Because she has like pale skin and dark hair?
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I think pale skin, red lip, dark hair. She like, she lies. Like, she likes, like lace and leather and like, she's very. That.
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That's kind of kinky, but it's not goth. It's kinky, Mick. I mean, Violet is definitely kinky, that's for sure. Violet is like, obviously kinky. What is that?
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Like what. Like what fashion is that called? Just kink fashion?
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Well, kink is not a fashion because kink goes. Some kink is how you dress and some kink is how you act.
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So, like, what would Violet's fashion be called? Because Mick is definitely goth. Violet is like, maybe Violet has a genre that's of her own fashion. Kink. Kink fashion.
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I'm not gonna go as far as say that Violet created this.
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I know. Don't give this bitch any accolades. Cause she will ride that shit into the sun.
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Violet deserves accolades. Violet has Violet a lot for Drag Race and for drag in general. She'd hate to admit that she's done a lot for Drag Race. Cause she probably. I don't think she can stand the show anymore, but she's done a lot for drag, I would say. Last night, Monet and I had a game night. Well, I hosted a party at Monet's house.
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You did not host a party at my house, Bob. I feel a home. Bob loves to say that he is hosting a party with me or he held a thing at my house. You do.
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We host together. We have hosted things together.
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We have. Last night was not one of them.
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Last night was one of them. I'm the one who got it together because we. But I coordinated with Mateo and Nick. They were going to come over.
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True, y'.
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All.
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And then we told you we were coming over because we were coming over to Andy's super, super duper block party house party 12.
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You misremembering the whole thing. So Andy and I were having a.
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That's your drag name, honey. Misremember.
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Literally. We're having a pool. Your name. We were having a pool party at my house on a Sunday. Nick and Matteo flew in from. From New York. And then I sent everyone the partyful invite. And then in very Mateo fashion, Mateo was like. He was like. Well, I think Nick too was like 30 people. They're like, girl, we don't want to hang out with. No, I mean, I'm supposed to realty. Can I?
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Yeah. Wake it up. Wake it up. Wake it up, Mo.
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Wake it up. Bob was like, Mo was like, mo, Mateo and Nick don't want to hang out with a bunch of Andy's sober friends.
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I was like, I didn't say sober. I said, Andy's friends. And based on the puke in your toilet that's still there, I would say that not all of them were sober.
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Eddie's friends are all sober. Well, anyway, so what happened was Andy, like I was saying, we had some little technical testicle difficulties. You know what Queen said that Queen's low sane on the mic. Sorry, we were having some testicle difficulties.
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It really is a drag standard. A drag staple, for sure.
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And then so Andy and I were in a big pool party about, like, 35 people coming over.
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Does it look weird when I'm looking at you, not the camera? Does this look crazy?
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Yes, that looks crazy.
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This looks crazy, right?
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Yes. You look ridiculous.
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Like I'm staring into your soul.
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Yeah, I don't like that. That looks awkward.
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Now you look at. Now you look at the camera. I don't think it looks weird. That's. Don't talk to me, girl.
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No, I don't like that. I feel. I feel crazy. And then so happy over. We said, Bob, and notoriously does not check partiful. I guess neither does Mateo or Nick. So I had to tell them by mouth. And then so Bob was like, monet,
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very black back in the old days.
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Very black. Who Coming over. I said, we have, like, about. Like, about 30 plus people. And then so he relays information. Then the next day, Bob is like. I was like, so like, are you guys coming over? Like, let me know. Bob was like, monet, can I tell you something? I was like, what's up? He's like, Monet. I was like, what? He's like, mateo, Nick did not want to hang out with a bunch of Andy's friends. I was like, okay, well, we want
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Andy to find out. Matteo asked me not to tell you
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that, by the way, Andy won't care.
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And I kept. I was like, andy, Monet will not care, girl.
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We really won't care. And then so he. So I was like, oh, well. I was like, so, y' all come over on Monday. We'll just do it.
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What I didn't say was Mateo asked me to find a way to have a day without Andy's friends, but he didn't want me to tell you that he didn't want to hang out with Andy's friends. He just wanted to be a small group. And I was like, it's just easy if I just say they don't want to hang out with your fucking friends. And I didn't. I had. I. I can normally be. I can normally have more decorum and discrepancy than that, but I. I didn't have the capacity on that day.
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And then. So I was like, oh, that's fine. The next day, Monday, we'll just do, like, a friends thing at the house, and we'll all hang out at the house. Y' all come over. And then. Which they did. They all came over yesterday, and we had extra, like, burgers and hot dogs. Andy, which you never said thank you. Grilled up the rest of hot dogs.
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Everyone literally gathered around the kitchen and said thank you. Everyone literally was like, andy, these are so delicious. Thank you so much. Literally all of us.
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You know, I apologize. I must have missed that. I didn't hear that part. I apologize. And then. So Andy.
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Oh, new woman. Oh, who is this?
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Andy slaved.
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Am I back in the dream? Are you Violet? Joshua from the dream?
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Andy slaved over the grill and grilled y' all some food. And we like, what should they be doing, honestly? And then Amber, Wallen, and Ben came over with the babies, and then we played Secret Hitler. We played Anomie, and it was a good night. How was this your event at my house?
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You know what? We about to really wake it up. And we'll wake it up after this break.
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What happened? What's going on?
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No, because just of the world. I just opened my thing and I. Because you know, with them detaining migrants and deporting people. What's happening now is the children, like children who are like 4 and 5 years old have to now are being sent to immigration court. And these babies had to represent themselves in court because they do not get a public defender or they don't get anything. So you have these like 4, 5 and 6 year olds in a big ass courtroom talking to a judge and some of them, they don't speak English and have to make their case and plead their case about why they should stay in America. It's just. It's all so fucked. And it was just like I've been, I was like a doom scroll of that and a bunch of those videos online this morning and it's so disheartening and it's so awful to think about and see and I just hate that this is where our country is and we are and that. And imagine how traumatizing that is for the rest of your life that you had to fight for your existence as a four year old with no adults helping you. And people who are supposed to be protecting you and helping you exist in this world are literally like yes, sit down there and talk for yourself. Defend yourself.
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When I lived in Minneapolis, this actor that I work with at Climb Theater was undocumented. But they something. I don't remember the law. Maybe they're a dreamer or something. But like on their 21st birthday they became a US citizen after living here since like 3 years old.
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Wait, they became a US citizen on
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their 21st birthday after living here since 3.
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Got it. So it sounds like maybe dreamer, I don't know. No dreamer's when you were born of. When your parents are immigrants but you're born here?
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I don't know.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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But anyway, I remember when he became a citizen and I didn't know that he wasn't. I didn't know he was undocumented. I had no clue because he went, he went to elementary school here. He went to middle school, high school, college, worked in America, like all this stuff. And I just remember one day going to work and he was so cute. I was kind of obsessed with him actually. And he was like, just boohooing, not crying, boohooing, girl. And he was just like, this journey is over. He was like, it's finally over. I can finally just relax.
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Because for 18 years he probably just had to be on kind of on edge a little bit.
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No, I would. Yeah, a lot, actually. And he. Yeah, and I just saw like he was a new person. It was crazy. It was insane. This was back in 2005.
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Wow. Yeah. And I mean, and also, I know we haven't said it, I think on our individual, on our own socials, obviously we speak as though we haven't said on a podcast before. This will always be a pro Palestine podcast. We stand with the people of Gaza. The fact that people, politicians, whoever are trying to look at this genocide and say it's not real is crazy. The fact, the fact that people, when people speak out against for Palestine and for the people of Gaza and being labeled as anti Semites is crazy. The fact of the matter is 55, at this point, I think 57,000 Palestinians have died. And it's horrible, it's very sad. And it's just. And I don't mean to bring the vibe down, but it just.
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No, you're speaking your truth. The other day I was talking to one of my close friends, a friend of mine, and they were like, my father is undocumented. And they were like, but he's still pro Trump. And I was like, that's so crazy. That's so crazy. And he was like. They were like, girl, his brain is just like he's cooked. Like he's just. They didn't say that. These are my words. I'm really paraphrasing here. They were like, he just believes that. He drank the juice, he sopped the sauce.
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You know what I mean? To see those fucking disgusting politicians used to go cuz fucking old, old Bibi came to America and he was in Congress. And to see all these fucking senators, especially Cory Books, raggedy bald headed, crusty ass, sitting in that picture and posing with Benjamin Netanyahu but hiding his, but he was, he was trying to hide behind, I forget whatever stupid senator was in front of him, hiding, being a fucking coward. No bitch stand ten toes down, you still, you sit on, you stood on the, on the, on the Congress floor, wherever the fucking floor you was and, and spoke for wherever many stupid hours. But the fact of the matter is you sat on in Congress and took a picture with Benjamin Netanyahu. Fuck you.
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And be clear, that is not the same thing as Monet posing with Meghan McCain with that cake. They are very different things.
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Such a fucking.
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Not the same. Monet could have walked away, but she chose a state of solidarity.
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You are such a fucking cut. You're such a cut with the.
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With the. With the official rue, girl. The unofficial rug, girl. No, I. Oh. So the other day, I didn't wake this up A. Y'. All.
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You just using mistress stuff. Y', all, y', all, y'.
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All.
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Jacob keeps saying it and it has now permeated my entire, like, close friend group. We're all saying, wake it up. By the way. It's waking up to nothing. Like, we will literally be in the car at Taco Bell and then. Or someone will be like, should we go to Taco Bell? And then Jake could go, yeah, let's wake it up. Like, he says it to everything and it's so funny.
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Anyway, I tried to get Andy out the bed this morning. I said, girl, wake up. And he was like, what?
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What?
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Wake what up? I was, bitch, no, get out of bed, bitch. You gotta go to the gym.
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Yeah, wake it up. We. So I was in bed the other day and I woke up to this text. I was like, hey, there's a student. Which partner by myself.
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Work.
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Cause I have alone time as well.
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Work.
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And I got.
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I woke up to a text from a. Let's just say a Broadway. A famous actor. Not that famous, but like Broadway music director type. And was like, hey there. There's going to be a. What did it say? A. I actually, I want to read the text. So I woke up to this text, which was, by the way, which. Which is whatever text to wake up to. Right? Yo, yo,
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context. Is this person black or white?
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No, It must be something. Whatever. On Monday, there is a top secret Pride event happening in Washington D.C. it's top secret because it's at certain performance venue that has recently been taken over by an elected official and they don't want anything gay there. Lots of amazing people. Prob. People going to be there and yada, yada, yada. Are you available to do it in D.C. i said, I don't know if I'm available because I don't know when it is. Lol. He goes, Monday, top secret. You can come down on Monday or they could also get you down there on Sunday with your. With a hotel for both nights. Whatever you want. I said, what are they asking for? How much stage time? A song rehearsal. Plus I live in la. I don't think I'd be able to do it, though it does sound Fun. There are speeches being written by Harvey Fierstein. This person, Moselis Kaufman. You can. You can read. You can read one of them. Also, the woman who wrote Funhouse is rewriting One Day More as a big group number. Just having you in the giant press photo would be fantastic. My first thought, I was like, why are you trying to use my black face for your thing? Whatever. Anyway, it would be fun, but I have to. But, but, but I have way too much to cancel. Are you looking for a drag queen? And then, and then we're going back and forth about, like, other stuff. And then I said, listen, if you need a drag queen, I can help
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you out,
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but I can't. I can't do it. I don't want to do it. I can't do it. And then they wrote this back. In conclusion, tell me if you can do a game night tomorrow and send me contacts for a drag for drag people in D.C. whom you like and aren't crazily anti Israel. Because I can't take that shit. Out of nowhere, out of nowhere. I'm still in bed. I haven't even brushed my teeth yet. I said, all the drag queens I know are fervently against what's happening in Palestine. So I can help you with that. Best of luck on your search. To which he responds, that's too bad, because they would be murdered in Palestine because they hate gays. The only country in the Middle east that is progressive is Israel. Sadly, they are misinformed, uneducated, and anti Jewish. It's also disgusting that Jews for decades have stood for civil rights for everyone and no one is standing on for our civil rights. I'm ashamed of the people that I fought side by side with for decades. And then, I'm not gonna lie, I did tokenize my boyfriend. I'm not gonna lie. Jacob, I need you to know I did tokenize my boyfriend.
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I did.
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I did. Jacob, I'm sorry. That's crazy. You have anything to say about that, Jacob? No, you're good.
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I endorse. I endorse him.
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I said, my Ashkenazi Jewish boyfriend and his entire family begged him.
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That's crazy.
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I said, but again, best of luck on your search. To be against what's happening in Palestine is not anti Jewish. Israel and Jewish are not synonymous. But I rest my case. And I have not heard from him since. And I think this last time I'll ever hear from. From that man.
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That's fucking wild.
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Yeah.
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And I think, you know, for some people, they're nervous to put their ideologies out there because they're afraid how that's gonna affect their business. And that's valid. That's your concern. But at this point, I just feel like it's just so. Selfish is the wrong word. But I'm like, you can't. We can't, like, look at what's going on in the world. Like, you know, this is going. This history is going to be like. This is a historical moment we're all being a part of. And whether you're engaging or not, you are a part of this. You are alive in history at this time. You're part of this. And you're going to have to, like, look back one day and be like, what did you say? What did you do? How did you help? What did you think? And what did you think and feel when you knew that what happened over there? And it's just. It's just. It's really awful. It really is. It's really awful. But that is how the tone shifted on. That is crazy. Also, where did. Where did. What the fuck did game night come from?
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Oh, I skipped some parts of text.
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Oh, got it.
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But also real T. I had to do. I had to Google how to spell Ashkenazi.
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I would. Okay, let me see if I can guess. Is this problematic? No, it's not.
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Spelling words is. No.
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Yeah, Ashkenazi. Okay.
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A.
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Am I right? That's how I do it.
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We're not going to give you. We're not going to verify every letter. Bitch, do the whole thing. A, S, C, H. No, you're already wrong.
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Okay, okay, so one more time. A, S, H, K, A.
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No.
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Damn. What the fuck is it?
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A, S, A, S, H, A, S,
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E, S. What letter is that?
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A, s, the 27th letter of the Alphabet. Oh, my God. A, S, H, K, E, N, A, Z, I. Ashkenazi.
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Ashkenazi. I think we should try to put this episode out sooner rather than later because I have another thing that happened recently.
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Well, real quick, before we do, I want to ask y' all a question. I want to say this, and I hope Andy listens to this episode.
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He doesn't.
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Let's wake it up. This episode Andy needs to listen to.
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Ok, if you're one of Andy's friends listening right now, please send him this clip.
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Oh, God. First of all, one of his friends won't be doing it because she's trying to start drama the other day and
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she won't be sending anything. First of all, you and Monet were not hosting that party at your House last night, me and Monet were hosting. Your party was the day before. And me and Monet's party was the day after. Let's just make that clear. You were, no, you were not part of the planning of this party. You were just, you were just present. And you're lucky we let you attend. Let's make that clear. Ok. Because we did a request that you stay in your room.
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First of all, Andi and I live here together. Andy and I host things here together.
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I don't care. Andy could have. We could have requested you stay in your room. But we graciously, Me and Monet graciously let you come downstairs.
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And then Bob and Andy, in typical Bob and Andy fashion, at any game night, they will get into a semantic. Well, that's a semantic. An argument about something.
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About something was mad cause I clocked him during the game immediately. But then we played Anomia and I need to. Anyone that plays in. If you don't know. Anomia is a game where you have to like, basically you look at cards and you. And you. I can't even explain it. Just go.
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Everyone picks one card and you have to. When cards match symbols, you have to say what's on the person's card before they say what's on yours.
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So if my card says brands of shoes and Monet's card says brands of cars, I have to say Hyundai before she says Nike.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Googling answers to other people's cars under the table is cheating.
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Okay, I will agree with that. I will agree with that.
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But you didn't agree in the moment. In the moment you stood by your man. Like. Like I was the one that called him out.
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You know, I, you know, I have a camera too. We can run that back. Because I was literally was the one that called him out on it.
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Were you? You weren't even there for that game.
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I was there for that game when he was looking up Cockney. Cockney slangs or whatever it was.
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You were there for that game. Yeah. So he's. He's Googling Cockney slang. He's Googling answers to other people's cards while the game is playing. And everyone's like, andy, that's cheating. Andy, that's cheating. He's ignoring us and acting like he doesn't hear us all. And we're all like, andy, that is cheating. And when that car comes, we're not going to give it to you because you're cheating. And then Andy does thing where he's like, well, in my home, I He. Well, you. You can make the rules when you host it at your home, but in basically saying, in my home, I stack the rules in my favor so I can win. And he still lost every fucking game he played.
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Let's wake that up.
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Wake that up. Yeah, let's wake it up.
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I would say Jacob is weirdly, really good at anomia. Jacob went on.
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Well, that last round.
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That's memory recall.
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Jacob went bananas. I don't know what Jacob was doing last night. I was like, jacob wouldn't have gotten.
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Well, you didn't see. Jacob went banana.
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Gave up.
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Jacob went into the drag room and did a little. He took a little bum.
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And I will say this. I viciously attacked Amber Wallen last night.
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Like, three times.
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Viciously.
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Three times.
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And then. So that was only one game.
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Amber had never played the game. The game of Secret Hitler. Amber had never played the game before. So, like, when people. And Nick was also playing and Nick. I don't know if Nick. Since we've left New York City, Nick's brain stopped working properly. But we. We were trying to explain Nick every step of the way. Nick had a question for. Literally, we were like, nick, you have to draw a card. He's like, this card, and what do I do with it? I'm like, nick, just. We play the game.
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You will get there.
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Trust us. Like, wait, but how does the card work? I'm like, you pick it up and put it down, girl.
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Meanwhile, on Nick's fifth round.
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Yeah, like the fifth round of the game, they could not process the game anyway, so, you know when you first play the game, I'm trying to, like, help Amber and walk her through some steps. And then Bob goes, monet, women don't need to help a man. They can figure out.
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But meanwhile, the next breath on Amber,
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it was attack on me. But with the next breath, you were trying to mansplain to Amber how to play the game, which was so rude and out of pocket. I didn't like that.
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I'll tell you what really happened after this break. I'll tell you what really happened after this break. Okay, so this is what actually happened. Amber Monet tried to help Amber with something physically. And I said, monet, she's not pregnant. Right? Come on, Amber, she had a baby seven weeks ago. I said, monat, she's not pregnant right now. Amber does not need. Amber does not need no man helping her reach stuff. She can reach things. It was something she was. That she was leaning to grab. Monet jumped in and grabbed it for her. And Then. And then Amber asked a question, and I answered it.
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No, but y'.
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All.
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But Bob was.
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Bob was answering the question. Like, Amber was one of her kids. Two years ago, he like. Well, he's like, well, Amber, well, when you. When you play the game, you have to take the card and discard it here and, like, send us. I'm like, she's in a fucking game.
A
That's not what happened. Roll the footage. And I have cameras in the beautiful bean footage. That's not what happened.
B
I have the secret cameras in there.
A
Roll that beautiful bean footage.
B
Release that. But it was very fun to have Amber and Ben, I promise you, you
A
never will release it. But I did attack Amber because I thought she was. I thought she was a fascist. And immediately, like on the first. But also I tried to do a mind game on her, and she fell for it, but not really. But she's answering away. What I said was, to be fair, Amber, it is really hard to play secret Hitler if you're a fascist your first time playing. And she goes, yeah, it is. And I was like, boom. Signs still delivered, y'.
C
All.
A
Don't ever trust her. And then into the game, the liberals, we won. So I jump up. And the liberals, we all started high fiving each other. I high fiving, Andy, me and Jacob were high fiving. And then Amber, I said, amber, put your hands down. But she. Meanwhile, she was fully innocent. But I high fived Mikey. And Mikey was fully evil.
B
I know. Yeah, Mikey was evil as hell, so.
A
And Taylor was the worst Taylor for me, because I've known Taylor for very long, and Taylor does not have a good poker face. And, baby, I know Taylor was sick of me clocking him. I know Taylor was sick of me clocking him every 10 seconds.
B
Girl, anybody with two eyeballs can. Girl, Taylor, you. Taylor will blow up hard and just be smiling like.
A
Like, what the fuck are you smiling at?
B
It's so guilty.
A
Okay, because you saw him turning red, I guess. I guess I can't read.
C
Patrick.
A
Patrick ate. Patrick ate down. I was like, this is very impressive, what you're doing today.
B
From the first round, when Patty pull up.
A
When Patty did a good job, too.
B
No, when Patty tried to pass that first Paul, y' all violent. She's turning violent. Patty's entire face started turning red because he was so for cleansed with his lies. His entire head looks like it's about to explode. Look, he like that lady from. From the boys about to pop his fucking head clean off his shoulders. Girl, it was crazy.
A
Patrick gagged me Patrick gagged me. I was. I was literally shocked, literally. And Andy was so mad that I clocked him immediately. Andy was livid. He was livid that I. I think within the first round, I was like, andy's evil. Let's keep going. Let's keep going.
B
Um, and there's also. This happened. So I did the. The Nicki Minaj challenge when I had the party, and everybody came over and I posted it. And I typically never respond to comments, but it was this comment. Someone goes, wow, Monet, why are they all white? And clearly in the video, there are all different types of people in the video. And it now responded to this whole thing about how now all the comments now they start saying, well, y' all know Monae and Bob only have white friends now it's put over to TikTok how you and I only have white friends. And I'm like. And I'm not gonna feed into this. Into the mire of confirming every friend I have. It's just so irritating that people do this dumb ass shit. And so the comments do make me laugh.
A
They are funny. But I don't understand how one video.
B
Now I am back into the zeitgeist of all of my friends are white. I do not know any people of color. I am a coon, apparently. It's crazy. What.
A
Can you name a black person? What? I was talking. I was talking to. Oh, I was talking to Rob. And Rob said, Rob. Rob.
B
Rob Ryan.
A
The Silas. I said, rob, be honest. Do I give. Do you. When you. Before you work with me, did you think I didn't know any black people? And he goes. He was like, do you know black people? I said, he goes. He goes the name of black friends, but not Peppermint, Not Larry, not Monet, not the other Larry. Not the other Larry. Not Naomi. I was like, you're. You're naming. Like, is that crazy to be like. He's like. He's like, name Prince and our white, but not Kim, not Godoy, not Naomi, not Monet, not Peppermint, Not. Not Too Face. Not Larry Owens, not Larry Darnell, Penn Whitfield. Not Keisha Carr.
C
Not.
A
I was like, not. Not Mila Jam, Not Tao. Not. I was like, this is when. When you have. You're just naming every. All of my friends of color and then leaving just the white ones. That's crazy.
B
It's crazy. It's crazy how people jump on the stage.
A
Why do you think people think you don't know any black people?
B
I don't know. I generally don't know someone who they see me twice a week, literally, with online, is the blackest person I know.
C
You.
A
Who's the blackest person? You know, you're the alcohol cut out for a second.
B
And then, like, I mean, I post videos a lot with dejuan, with Arcia, with. I'm like. But also, I'm not gonna run. I'm gon not going to run that down for the people. Like, fuck. Like, I'm not going to do it, because that's letting them not win. But that's like playing into what they want. I'm like, I'm not doing that. First of all, that's so fucking rude to my friends. I'm not going to have to show all my black friends all the time.
A
Counting your black friends, even when you're black, is crazy.
B
It's crazy. But they always say this about us.
A
But it also is weird to me because the queens that I am most publicly aligned with, the people on the Internet that I am most publicly aligned with, are you Peppermint, Naomi, Kim Chi, Nick Smith, Mateo Lane. Who else am I publicly aligned with online? That's kind of it. That's like my. That's my Internet. As far as the Internet knows, those are my only friends. Peppermint, Monet, Naomi, Kimchi, Mateo Lane, Nick.
B
So who's at the Peppermint? Monet. X Change. Got it.
A
Oh, I said Monet.
B
Did I say Monet after Prepper Man.
A
Oh. Anyway, so as far as the Internet knows, I have six friends now. Yes. I have other friends. Oh, Jacob as well. Jacob as well. So. And, you know, I. I'm not. I'm not secretive with my partners, really. But after one very online relationship, I have chosen to be less like, this is my partner because I don't think it's good for your relationship personally. And I honestly think that if Jacob was on this podcast, that nigga wouldn't be on my motherfucking socials either. Y' all wouldn't know about him either. And one of my friends. What's her name? You know, when you know someone by their screen name so much, you forget their real name. Yori. Jesus Christ. Her name is Alluring Skull, but her real name is Yuri. Yori did a video with her girlfriend, and she was like, I am not putting my girlfriend on my page anymore. She was like, it's a wrap.
C
You.
A
You guys have lost that access y' all are being so weird about. Puts strain on your relationship 100%. It puts stress and strain on your relationship. So I'm not trying to be like, I'm. I'm not trying to, like, put my other partner on the Internet. I mean, he's there, he's in stuff, he's in things. But I'm not about to be like, blasting my partner all over the Internet and being like. Because I just don't. I've gone through it before, and I think every partner since. I'll just say it. Ezra has been like, not. They haven't been like. But they've noticed that I don't really post my partners online anymore.
B
Yeah.
A
You know what I mean?
B
Yeah. Yeah. I would never. I would never. I mean, Andy and I seldom do. I put Andy on my social media. If we, like, go to, like, a nice thing, like, you know, go on my page. How many pictures of Andy will you see on my page?
A
I'm looking for the truth. Hold on.
B
How many pictures of Andy? How many pictures go on my Instagram right now? I'll let you tell me. How many pictures of Andy. Andy.
A
Andy lives on your story. Lives.
B
That's true.
C
Most recently he was on June 9th.
B
Okay, June 9th.
C
So about a month ago.
A
Hold on.
B
Yes, Nick.
A
Often this. This is every. Every two weeks. Monet and Andy. No.
B
You're such a liar. No, you're not. Oh, my God. Nick is Alabama. I haven't seen Andy on Monet's page in a very long time. Girl.
A
I did not put up my only special occasions.
B
Will she post Andy right?
C
Like the.
B
Like. Like the.
A
You already got the invite to the pool party, Nick. You're. You.
C
You're good.
B
Like the GLAAD Media Awards or like something like that, or like a holiday. But I do not post any of my Instagram. Girl. Not you. Okay, baby? You and Ezra Paxley had a couple's account.
A
You're not. That's what I'm saying. I don't do that no more. I learned. I have learned my lesson.
B
And you are trying to say that I. I post Andy as frequently as you and Ezra used to post each other.
A
I never said that. You're creating so creating stories on a
B
scale to zero to Bob and Ezra. Where do and I call?
A
Me and Ezra were not the 10. My page has always been me. Me and Ezra were not the epitome
B
of a couple of your page. But postcode, that means don't say zero
A
to Bob and Ezra because me and Ezra were not. We weren't. Who's that? Who are those? Yeah, we weren't.
C
One of them is French and the other one is not French. Oh, you've seen Them got it. They broke up a while ago, but that was their whole page.
B
Got it.
A
Or it wasn't like Ian Padgett and Chris. Chris. Whatever his name is. They were couples pages, not whatever his name is.
B
That's crazy.
A
I don't know Chris like that, but I know Ian. Ian's my friend. I love Ian.
B
Ian Paget, actually.
A
I actually don't know Ian that well.
B
I don't know why I'm acting like.
A
Me and Ian hang out. Me and I can hung out. Me and Ian hung out literally one time ever. His name is.
B
He was on my plant based show.
A
He gave me a ride home from Les Mis one time, which I really appreciated. And I didn't know he was going to be there.
B
Work.
A
He gave Taylor Ron home too. He's very nice. Ian is very, very lovely. I've only hung out with him one time at a show at Les Mis where we didn't know we were both going. But anyway, another point. So I would say on a scale of zero to the French boy and his ex, I would say you and Andy are like a five. Six.
B
I would say three. Two. Two, Three.
A
I think seven is where they start coming on your page. Like your. Your wall.
B
For me. No, I think that's five.
A
I mean, Jacob's been on my. Jacob's been on my wall several. A few times. A lot. Yeah, it's been eight years.
B
Okay. No one say you.
A
But also, Jacob doesn't really like. Jacob doesn't like. When I film him. Jacob doesn't like. So every once in a while, if there's like an idea, Jacob will let me make a video or something. But Jacob doesn't really like being on the Internet like that. Which is kind of crazy because when I met Jacob, he was like, really, like in these streets, doing stage shows, doing plays.
B
And well, well, he spent the past eight years of you dimming his light to shine yours brighter.
A
So I have never.
C
Dimming real tea is that a lot of the Drag Race fans are just low key crazy and toxic and I'm not really specifically interested in having them comment on me.
A
That's fair.
C
Like, the amount that I get from this podcast is already like my baseline. Like, that's a good amount. I'm good.
A
The fact that Jacob even did an episode for you fucking hoe. You should be so fucking lucky. Go back and watch the one with Jacob Ritz. Let's wake it up.
B
Oh, my gosh. Can y'. All. How about all y' all go to sleep, go to bed, but also let Me.
C
Just be clear. Sorry, let me clear that we have a lot. There are a lot of drag race fans who are great, who are really chill. Like, I think that the baseline there. There are more people who are like chill and great than not chill. It's just like the people who are crazy are the ones who comment the most.
B
And I'll say drag fans are monsters. There are a lot of drag fans that. That, that. That can be monsters.
A
No, no, baby. And let me tell you right now, you about to find out. Next January, you better find out who's. Who's monsters. Housewife fans. Oh, baby, let me tell you right now, you. You think drag race fans are monsters. No, you about to find out. Come January, you about to find out that housewife fans. I've said this before. I said again, at least drag race fans will be crazy, but at least we are brave enough to do it. From our real account, It'll be like Dr. Smith, DDS with a blue check calling you garbage. But then these. How about it's like Nene's wig, Teresa Judice's hairline, or. Or Teresa Giudice's shackles.
B
Bethany Frankel's knee. What happened to her knee?
A
I don't know. I actually don't know anything about Bethany. I'm trying to name housewives. Then I ran out of references. I don't. Because I don't watch housewives. So I ran. I ran out of references really quickly.
B
Yeah. Cause you don't know who Robin is.
A
I know who Robin is. Robin.
B
I'm just saying what you said at Pride to that guy.
A
Jacob was there. And Jacob can attest that I did not tell that guy that I know. And I want that. I want that guy, the owner of whatever that spot is. This is your open invitation to come to the pod and clear it up. Because you lied to Robin's friend. What's her name?
B
Trishell.
A
Trishell. The blue eyed Bandit. Green Eyed Bandit. You lied to the bandit. Giselle. You lied to Giselle, Honey. So I want you to come on this. What's it. I don't know what your name is. But you know who you are. And those of you who know who he is, clip this and send it directly to him. Not a link. I want you to download an entire. Text him the video, and then I will send you an open invitation and you can do it through Robin. Whom I know. Who I know. Is it whom I know or who I know?
B
Who.
A
Whom.
B
I mean, you can use whom as well. Or you'd say Whomst you would say whomstein.
A
Now you don't know. Jacob, the last five minutes, we need a grammar quiz.
C
Okay,
A
let's wake it up. I cannot stop saying let's fuck it up. It's so stupid. Are you still a mistress, Stan? Because I don't know. If you listen to the podcast, do you know that Naomi is now a full mistress apologist?
B
Meaning like. Like she apologizes for mistress's behavior.
A
She's like, I gotta see where she's coming from
B
with the aja thing specifically.
A
Not quite. But she just. Like, I was laying into Mistress and she was kinda like, I don't know. I was like, that's Naomi. That's crazy. That's crazy. I said, not a mistress apologist. This is insane. Now, granted, I will acknowledge I am a Tina Burner apologist.
B
That's crazy. There's something you said on the episode. You was like, tina Burner is a flawless queen.
A
And what are you? Flawless?
B
I just. I just. I never said I was flawless.
A
So how would you even know what flawless looks like?
B
The fact that you opened up. So how would you even parted your dick, suckers. And you said that Tina Bren is a flawless drag queen is fucking insane.
A
You need to be committed. They're also clit lickers, bitch.
B
Whatever. No, this. This is your clit licker. That ain't. These ain't clit lickers. Do you. Do you with your lips?
A
That's because you don't know how to do it.
B
You even know how to lick clit, nigga.
A
If I don't do it, and I
B
know how to do it better than you.
A
If you don't know, if you're not a floss drag queen, how would you know to spot one? What happened? If you're not a floss drag queen, how would you know how to spot one?
B
I'm not a fucking pilot, but I can spot a pilot, bitch. I don't need to be one to spot one.
A
That.
B
Wake that up. Yeah, wake that up.
A
What are they? To quote Cafe to Jimmy and Sister, Act 2. You don't gotta bite the donut to know a sweet.
B
She did not say that. Since act two. That was his act one. It was.
C
We literally actually did just watch this react too. Well. She's talking to the class about sex. She's like talking to the high school class about sex.
B
Okay, okay.
C
How do you know about sex? You're a nun.
A
Can I tell y' all right now? One of my favorite moments during Anomia is knowing I'm right and watching Andy and Monet Google and Google and Google. Last night I got one of my cards taken. Cause Monet was like a kangaroo is not a desert animal. I said a kangaroo is absolutely a desert animal.
B
Jacob, Rick, Jacob, can you, can you, can you look up as a. I'm put on the screen right now. Is a kangaroo a desert animal? Put it on the kangaroo.
C
It is a desert animal.
A
No, no, I read the AI it said that kangaroo is not exclusively a desert animal.
B
Okay, so that means that it can be.
A
No monetary. That's not what that means.
B
Jacob, I need you to put it on the screen. I don't want to hear your word. I need you to put up on the screen so our patrons can read or whoever, whoever's watching.
A
Don't, don't, don't become monation on this one and try to edit the image.
B
I don't want.
C
This is a Planet Earth segment about how kangaroos stay cool in the hottest place on earth.
A
No, no, no.
B
I want the Google thing so we can put on the screen. Is Google search on Google?
A
Is it desert animal? Courtney act. Are you watching? Chime in. Courtney, where are you? Karen from finance, we need you.
B
I'll call Courtney right now because she'll answer my call. She won't answer yours.
A
Well, we'll see. Oh, call. Let's see what she answers for. Hold on. Korea is like 2 o' clock in the morning over there.
B
Oh, yeah. No, it's 9am the next day.
A
The person you are calling cannot accept.
C
We can also call Kane.
A
That was cra. Kourtney, you're not my friend anymore. Does anyone like us?
C
We can call Kane as well.
A
I'm calling Kane.
B
Kane and Abel.
A
No, Kane the cameraman. Damn, she hate us, girl. Kyle, I don't think Kane's ever been awake before noon unless I had to ask him to come in.
B
I don't think I've ever seen Kane
A
awake before noon ever once in my life. Girl. Do we.
B
And you won't. And you won't see him today. Awake before noon. Yeah, he's. He's not answering.
A
What? Do we know any other Canadian, I mean, Australians who live here? Kane. Is Kane the only Australian who lives here?
B
No, that's not true. I know other Australians.
A
I mean, who the girl patties hang out with.
B
The girl? Yeah, in New York City.
A
What was her name?
B
Akiki Twitsy.
A
She has some stripper name. Poopsier.
B
Kiki is not a stripper, Dave.
A
Kiki is a stripper name, girl. Kiki, the Australian stripper.
B
I love Kiki. Kiki was. Kiki was she? Because, you know, prostitution is not prostitution. What's the word I'm looking for? Yeah.
A
Oh, Kane, I have a question for you. You're on the podcast, just so you know. Okay.
C
Okay.
A
Hello. Hey.
C
Hello.
A
Is a kangaroo a desert animal?
B
A desert animal?
C
It is one, but it can be
A
on, like, beaches and in forests and things, too. Thank you so much, Kane. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
B
That's what I said.
A
Monet. He said, it is a desert animal. Why do you keep blocking out Monet?
C
Can you name another desert animal?
B
An armadillo?
A
But they're not only in the desert.
B
Huh?
A
But they're not only in the desert.
B
They also was.
A
Well, no, but. So wait. No, no, no. But it's not exclusively the desert. Exactly. So. Exactly.
B
And the card said exclusively desert animal.
A
No, it did not. It said desert animal.
B
I'm gonna get the card. I'm gonna post a picture on here.
A
Jacob was there, and he was wearing his glasses, and you weren't wearing yours. And Monet likes to lie, but she doesn't wear glasses. Monet wears glasses.
C
Armadillos are desert animals, but they're also known to inhabit grasslands.
A
Well, you also Googled.
B
If I googled. If I googled kangaroo on a toilet, it was going to show me one of the fucking toilet bowls. Jacob.
C
Okay, here's a Google. Here's some armadillo on grass. Look. Look at all this. This is just a straight up armadillo Google search. That's one of the biggest armadillos living in these grasslands.
B
This is a desert oasis.
A
Armadillos. Armadillos are on the side of the road. Everyone's seen a dead armadillo on the side of a road in the desert in Georgia. I've seen them dead on the side of the road in Georgia. There are no deserts in Georgia.
B
But you never visit a desert in Georgia. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
A
There are no deserts in Georgia.
B
You, up until a few months ago, you were like, oh, the beaches in Georgia are ugly. Then I showed a picture of the beaches in Georgia that are gorgeous.
A
I think they're ugly like you. The thing is, I'm saying in Georgia, you don't really go to the beach. It's like, it's not really a thing. Like, you don't go to the beaches in Georgia. If you want to. If you're in Georgia, you want to go to the beach, you go to North Carolina or you go to Florida.
B
And Bobby would disprove It. Because everyone literally signed. Well, I don't know what it's called. Whatever St. Whatever beach it was, everybody's like, oh, yeah, that's a really nice beach in Georgia.
A
Yeah, but it's like one beach, Georgia, for the most part. In Georgia, when you go to the beach, you go to North Carolina or. Or South Carolina or you go to Florida. Most folks in Georgia do not go to the beach in Georgia.
B
I think that's for you. The people down there go to that beach.
A
We don't go to the beach. We don't go to the fucking beach. I mean, I don't go to the beach in general.
B
If you're a Georgian, an American Georgian, and you go to the beach in Georgia, please comment below and please sign off below. I miss your septum, but your septum wasn't that big, was it? You had a pretty big one.
A
No, it wasn't this big, but I
B
mean, it wasn't that big, but it was. It wasn't like this.
A
I wasn't huge. I used to flip it. It was way bigger. I used to flip it on my nose.
B
Yeah. Bring it back.
A
Is this too much?
B
No, I like it.
A
It's need to go. But I just want to point out that there were several moments where you and Andy were both. And honestly, it. It brings me so much joy to watch you and Andy Google and Google and Google and try to manipulate the truth and find your alternative facts when instead of just saying out loud, bob, you're right, and by the way, it's only me. When other people prove them wrong, they will say they're wrong.
B
When I prove them wrong, like, I
A
prove them wrong, they do not want me to be right.
B
And Mikey corroborated this. They had a card that said optician. And then Taylor's like, and again, you misheard him.
A
Hold on, hold on.
B
Mike and I said, we misheard, but we. What we heard. It was. He said, place. And Mike and I was like, just a place in Zaha. And that's what we heard. And then so I looked it up, and everyone's like, monique, why are you looking it up? Taylor said, it's a place. And Mikey and I were like, but yeah, it can't just be any place. I was like, oh, like a place you go to fix your glasses. And Taylor's like, that's what I said. So we were corrected. But so I say that to say, you're not the only one. If someone says something proves my point.
A
Once someone else proves you wrong, you'll just go, oh, you were right. You know, a kangaroo is a desert animal. You are still fighting for your life to try to prove that a kangaroo is not a desert animal. You know it is.
B
We have kangaroos in St. Lucia, Monet.
A
No one is saying that kangaroos only live in deserts. I'm saying a kangaroo is a desert animal. And you know you're wrong. And you just went out of me because you don't want me to be right.
B
That's all I'm saying.
A
You don't care about being wrong. You don't want me to be right because you know I'm right. What are these hands? And on that note, thank you for coming on.
C
Before we start, we're going to do an anomia really quickly. I'm going to paste something into this chat and you're going to do the. You're going to see who does it first.
B
Okay? Ready?
C
One, two, three, go. Oh, wait. It didn't paste. My bad. There we go.
B
It's Harry Potter.
C
Monet.
B
It's a nonfiction book.
A
Becoming Michelle Obama. Monet did not know what a non fiction Monet. We kept getting crazy. Said nonfiction book. Monet named fiction books Beauty and the Beast. Monet thinks. Monet thinks there was a man who turned into a beast in the woods of France. Monet thinks he was like Jacques le Bleu. I am the beast. The only one with a French accent.
B
I don't know. I have a question. Do you think we could start a series of playing anomia? Would that be fun for people to watch?
A
Well, I'm gonna do a. I'm. I'm gonna. Well, I'm not gonna announce it. Maybe we'll talk about it later.
B
Work. All right. There you.
C
Go.
Release Date: July 30, 2025
Hosts: Bob The Drag Queen and Monét X Change
Main Guests/Appearances: Violet Chachki (in a dream), Jacob Ritz, Andy, and others (friends at a game night)
This episode of Sibling Rivalry is a joyfully chaotic blend of sharp humor, personal stories, and unscripted debate, spun around the hosts' relationships, game nights, internet perceptions, and—at last—some contentious facts about desert animals. Throughout, Bob and Monét slip effortlessly between their signature playful bickering and heartfelt commentary on current events and public perceptions.
Violet Chachki “saves the podcast” ... in Bob’s dream.
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| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-----------|-------|---------| | 00:51 | "I was considering ending the friendship... It was something you did to me in a dream." | Bob | | 06:39 | "That's your drag name, honey. Misremember." | Bob | | 11:25 | "…children who are like 4 and 5 years old…have to represent themselves in court… It's just…so fucked." | Monét | | 14:04 | "This will always be a pro-Palestine podcast." | Monét | | 15:11 | "To see all those fucking senators, especially Cory Booker's raggedy bald-headed, crusty ass…" | Monét | | 19:06 | "All the drag queens I know are fervently against what's happening in Palestine… Best of luck on your search." | Bob | | 30:24 | "Now I am back into the zeitgeist of all of my friends are white. I do not know any people of color. I am a coon, apparently." | Monét | | 32:15 | "Counting your black friends, even when you're black, is crazy." | Bob | | 41:05 | "I’m not a fucking pilot, but I can spot a pilot, bitch." | Bob |
The episode blends playful shade, personal storytelling, genuine friendship jabs, and bold social commentary. Much of the humor is self-referential and rooted in recurring gags—about Drag Race, their friends, social media, and each other.
If you haven’t heard the episode, expect a wild ride: plenty of signature Sibling Rivalry banter, inside jokes, and a brilliant balance of irreverence and heart. You'll get everything from laugh-out-loud competitive debates (are kangaroos desert animals?!) to real talk about activism and internet culture. And, as always, Bob and Monét’s chemistry makes even the pettiest squabbles feel electric and fresh—even when they’re just fighting for who “owns” the party.
If you want to skip straight to the "desert animals" argument, head toward 43:00—but honestly, the journey is the best part.