The One About Drag Con

Summary

Sibling Rivalry Podcast: "The One About DragCon"

Date: April 13, 2022
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob The Drag Queen

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change dive deep into their personal, often hilarious experiences attending and working at RuPaul's DragCon. They share stories from their first (often chaotic) DragCons, dish on famous and infamous booths, discuss the business behind con appearances, and trade tips for both fans and fellow queens. Their unfiltered banter highlights both the fun and the hustle of DragCon, while offering insights for veterans and newcomers alike.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Neverland DragCon Debacle

[02:18–07:25]

• Monét's Management Saga: Monét tells of joining Neverland Management, influenced by their reputation for landing queens brand deals and sponsorships. Bob strongly advised against it (“Monet, they crunchy. Don’t do it.” – Bob, [02:37]).
• Alleged Mismanagement: Monét describes disasters, including missing payments and logistical chaos on a UK tour—no transportation, hotel, or contacts upon arrival (“Our connection to Scotland...everything in Glasgow was missing.” – Monét, [05:09])
• DragCon Fallout: Neverland promised fully set-up booths for a fee, but failed to deliver—most queens arrived to find nothing prepared (“When I tell you we had nothing. We had nothing.” – Monét, [06:42])
• Notable Moment: Kim Chi “allegedly” screaming at Neverland in the middle of DragCon, tearing apart her booth ([07:00]).

Booth Design Fails and Triumphs

[07:25–11:10]

• Sibling Riverly Sign Disaster: Bob & Monét recount how their first UK DragCon booth had a sign misspelled as "Sibling Riverly", which neither noticed for two days. (“The sign said Sibling Riverly. That shit was wild.” – Bob, [08:25])
• Early Booth Setups: Their first booths were basic. Bob started with just a big vinyl sign (“...just had a big vinyl thing that said Bob.” – Bob, [09:40])
• Evolution of Booths: They credit Shea Coulee for pioneering complex booths, with chandeliers and private photo areas ([09:55–10:09]).

The Booth Experience: To See or Not See the Line

[10:19–11:25]

• Visibility Preferences: Monet prefers closed-off booths for privacy; Bob likes open setups to watch the crowd and line.
  • (“Monet does not like to see the finish line. ...I want to see how far I have to go. That feels more comforting to me.” – Bob, [10:58])

DragCon Logistics and the Money Question

[11:45–13:10, 37:24–39:02]

• Booth Costs: The cost for a queen to attend DragCon with a designer booth can be $10k–20k, factoring in setup, costumes, staff, and merchandise.
  • (“It can be easily, easily between 10 and $20,000 just to do drag...just to do it.” – Bob, [38:01])
• Necessity of Charging Fans: They make clear why queens charge for photos and meet & greets—it’s to recoup massive upfront investments.
  • (“I cannot believe these girls are charging. Bitch. I can. ... Otherwise I would be losing my money.” – Bob, [38:13])

On Comfort and Endurance

[22:04, 22:36]

• Advice: Comfort is key! Bob and Monét stress that DragCon is a marathon, not a sprint, and recommend low-maintenance outfits and shoes (“When I tell you it is an endurance game. ... Comfort should be your number one priority.” – Bob, [22:04])

The Queen's Walk and Setting Traditions

[23:46–25:23]

• Bob's Royal Walk: Bob claims to have pioneered the dramatic “royalty walk” at DragCon, inspiring future grand entrances by winners.
  • (“Let me just acknowledge that I changed the game.” – Bob, [24:33])

Memorable Booths & Favorite Merch

[19:15–21:19, 27:52–28:48]

• Standout Booths: The hosts recall eye-catching booths, like Sasha Velour’s minimalist neon-lit curtain design, Ms. Fame’s interactive barrier of hands, and Vanjie’s red laundromat.
  • (“Sasha Velour always has a really nice booth. It’s just like floor to ceiling velour curtains with these...neon lights.” – Bob, [19:40])
• Best Merch: Highlights include Shea Coulee’s "Shady Koolaid" shirt and Alaska’s high-quality fanny packs, praised for their originality and execution ([28:14–28:29]).

Behind-the-Scenes & Awkwardness

[31:10–32:41]

• Fan Interactions: Both are surprised by the number of families attending with young children. Monét tells of being moved by the sight of parents and children together ([31:10]).
• Booth Mishaps: Monét once nearly collapsed the wall of Bob’s booth—leading to playful ribbing and accusations of “adding sauce” to the story ([32:18–32:43]).

The Realities of Meet & Greets

[34:30–36:33]

• Armpit Woes: Tall queens like Bob and Monét laugh (and gag) over the downside of meet & greets: fans’ armpits at head level and sweaty hugs.
  • (“I am ... so conscious of people’s wet, sweaty armpits. ... Like, literally, that spot on my dreads was wet.” – Monét, [34:30])
• Health Risks: Both describe always getting sick post-DragCon, leading Bob to enforce “no touching” and mandatory hand sanitizer ([35:03–35:57]).

Panels and Making Money

[36:33–39:02]

• Panels vs. Booth Time: Monet’s handler, Patty, restricts her to the booth to maximize earnings, allowing panels only if it’s for Sibling Rivalry.
• Activism Panel Drama: Bob shares a moment when he urged respect for all forms of activism, especially for marginalized communities.
  • (“...this is not the first time we’ve had a president be against us. ...this feels like the last 400 years.” – Bob, [40:01–40:36])

DragCon: Would They Do It Again?

[42:39–43:36]

• DragCon Fatigue: Both are ambivalent about returning unless sponsored or if things are made significantly easier.
  • (“If I can get someone to sponsor my booth...I want to show up, sell merch and leave.” – Bob, [42:49])
• Feeling for Others: They recognize the awkwardness of seeing queens without lines, expressing empathy for those with fewer fans ([43:27–43:40]).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Monet, they crunchy. Don’t do it.” – Bob, warning Monet about a management company ([02:37])
• “When I tell you we had nothing. We had nothing.” – Monet on her first DragCon booth disaster ([06:42])
• “The sign said Sibling Riverly. That shit was wild.” – Bob on their infamous misspelling mishap ([08:25])
• “Comfort should be your number one priority when it comes to participating in DragCon.” – Bob’s advice ([22:04])
• “If you have three sweaty ones, that’s enough to give you some odor.” – Bob on meet & greet perils ([35:03])
• “It can be easily, easily between 10 and $20,000 just to do drag...just to do it.” – Bob on the real costs ([38:01])
• “You want your booths to look nice...which is also about why I don’t do DragCons anymore.” – Bob on glamour vs. finances ([38:31])
• “This feels like the last 400 years.” – Bob puts contemporary politics in historical context ([40:36])

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Timeline of Important Segments

• [02:18–07:25]: Neverland management & DragCon fail stories
• [07:25–11:10]: Booth setups, sign fiasco, evolution of presentation
• [13:10–18:39]: Changing DragCon rules, economics of booths, global variations (UK vs US)
• [22:04–22:36]: The paramount importance of comfort
• [23:46–25:23]: Bob invents the queen’s walk
• [27:52–28:48]: Favorite merch and booth finds
• [31:10–32:41]: Fan/family moments, Monet’s booth “demolition”
• [34:30–36:33]: Meet & greet drawbacks, hygiene, sickness
• [37:24–39:02]: Detailed booth cost breakdowns, why queens charge
• [40:01–40:36]: Notable activism panel, quote on politics
• [42:39–43:36]: Would they return to DragCon? Sympathy for queens without lines

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Takeaway

This episode captures the Sibling Rivalry duo at their best: playful, candid, and revealing about what really goes on behind the scenes at DragCon. Their stories serve as a guide—and a warning—to aspiring queens, fans, and anyone navigating the high-glam, high-stress world of drag conventions. In the end, both agree: DragCon is both a drag (pun intended) and a unique opportunity—for queens, fans, and the entire community.

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Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

name is Bob the Drag Queen and

[Monet X Change]

I'm Monet X Change and this is simply rivalry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Dragcon. How many dragons have you done?

[Monet X Change]

I have done. I did the infamous Neverland dragon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, wait, why was it Neverland? Tell them what Neverland is.

[Monet X Change]

Neverland was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh my God. Okay, before you say it, I just want to say out loud, monet, tell them. Okay, before people said, I just did.

[Monet X Change]

You just did that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I want you to tell them what Neverland is, but I want to tell this thing about Neverland that Monet was like, I'm signing up for Neverland Management. I said, monae, they crunchy. Don't do it. Monet said, they're fierce. I want it. Okay, tell your story.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, but okay, before that I was like, I'm trying to. I was. This is when I first got on drag race season 10 and I was talking to Bob about management and Literally, your advice was, you should go to a management with girls who are doing things that you like to do. Because I'm not gonna tell you go with PG just cause I'm with pg. I think you should go with a management with now knowing Bob, not nail knowing Bob, but now you know. Y' all know Bob's. Bob's crazies. Like, you're like, I think you should go to imagine that has girls doing things like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which makes sense. And what were the girls in everyone doing that you wanted to do? They were like, you were an actor. You were a single. I almost started doing. None of the girls over there were doing that. None of them okay with.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What they were doing. Selling T shirts, bitch. What were they doing in everything that you were obsessed with?

[Monet X Change]

Kimchi and Naomi?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like, what were they doing that you love?

[Monet X Change]

Brand stuff at that point, Neverland girls are doing a lot of the brand work and other girls were not. And at that time, that's how that was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What does that mean?

[Monet X Change]

Like, they had like a lot of brand. Like, Kim and Naomi used to do a lot of stuff, like digitally, like on Instagram, like on like, like paid posts. They used to do a lot of that kind of stuff. And at that point, I mean. You mean a lot of currency.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sponsorship pictures, Sponsorship deals.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, say sponsorship deals. We get brand. Brand sponsorship stuff. So I was like. And that was like, big currency. I'm like, bitch, I'm trying to make. I was like, I just got to drag this bitch. I'm trying to make this motherfucking money. And those are the girls who are doing a lot of that stuff.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You want to do that more than acting and singing and music.

[Monet X Change]

At that point, I was like, this is my little toe in the spotlight. Let me try to get some coins.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bitch, you can get coins from dancing. Okay.

[Monet X Change]

But now that I know again, now I have more experience in the industry, I better know what I want for myself.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I told you not to go to Neverland anyway.

[Monet X Change]

So Neverland tell you not to go there. Neverland was one of the big management companies. You had Neverland, but back then it was Neverland and pg. Pg. And they had Kings and Queens Entertainment. And there's also the Benedetta group, e p. Dr. Episode. Talent was separate from Together. Yeah. And it was one more. And then Latrice also had a management company, so like about five or six. But the big one, Entertainment, I think. Yeah, but the big one was Peg Neverland and Michael Benedetti EP Talent. So those are the ones that were Like, I was talking to everyone, and I ended up going with Neverland and bitch. Neverland fucking it was bitch. I don't know if I can sell it. Bitch never paid. Yeah, but he's still suing people, so maybe I should be able to care about what I'm saying then. Allegedly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is all alleged.

[Monet X Change]

This is all alleged. It's all alleged.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We don't know if there's any of this accurate.

[Monet X Change]

We have no idea. This is all alleged stuff. But, yeah, girls weren't. People started missing money. But Patty and I, we went to the UK and we got this itinerary for the uk for this UK tour. Bitch. And then one of the chunks of the city, Scotland, our connection to Scotland, everything in Glasgow was missing. So two days before, Patty's hitting them up, like, hey, we need information. Need information. Never got nothing, got to Scotland. There was no one to pick us up. We didn't know what hotel we were at. We had no contacts for anyone. So we called them and we call the owner of Neverland. And then allegedly, allegedly. And then we get a. And then he answered the phone, and no one answered the phone. And we get, like, a call two minutes back. Why the fuck are you blowing up my phone at 5 o' clock in the morning?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I cannot believe he allegedly said that to you.

[Monet X Change]

I cannot believe he allegedly said that. So Pat. And they were like, are you. I was like, are you fucking kidding me? Allegedly. I was like, I allegedly cannot believe you were saying this to me. And that was like, the beginning of me. Like, I had to get the fuck up out of here. And that's when everything started blowing up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So wait, so what was the Neverland dragcon?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, the Neverland dragcon. So Neverland, they had. Allegedly, they had this, like, thing that they would set up where you could. Or you pay them. It was like they would take. They would collect, like, 6,000 bucks from you, and they would arrange everything for you. Like, your booth would be fully set up. You just give them the concept. They would get your four squares. They will set up your thing. It will be perfectly done. Boom. They're getting everything. Lights, electricity, promote secure line. Everything. Like, it was like all in deal. So all of us paid that. All the Neverland girls, allegedly, we paid that. And then, bitch, we got to dragcon. And when I tell you we had nothing. We had nothing. I had.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I remember this time. You were freaking out.

[Monet X Change]

Pat and I were. It was like. It was my. It was my first DragCon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You were losing. Yeah, I remember that. I felt so Bad for you. I was. Really. Because you.

[Monet X Change]

Why weren't you at that DragCon?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. I think I was. Maybe. I'm in Berkeley. I was in Berkeley Prep. Yeah. Cause I didn't actually get to see. But I remember you telling me. You called me. You were like. I think you might have been crying.

[Monet X Change]

You were really upset. Cause it was my first DragCon. I had no. Patty and I, we were fucked up. We could not believe this. So thank God. Honestly, thank God for fuck. Patti is such a fucking trooper. Patty just got it together, and he did, and he just started getting things to set up our booth. But Kim, this was. Kim was, like, notoriously, like, screaming at the Never. She allegedly was screaming at the Neverland team in the middle of dragcon, like, tearing pieces of her booth apart. And, like, it was crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was a wild moment. I will say Patti did. We're gonna. Okay, Patti's great. I'm just gonna say out loud, Patti is fantastic. The infamous Sibling Riverly dragcon uk. Patty is the. Patty. It's not Patty's fault.

[Monet X Change]

It was the bitch that designed it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, listen, this is what happened. So Patty found these people. Tell me where I'm lying.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Patty found a people to design our booth, and they did a pretty good job up until a certain point. And then we. That we want. Then we just want. All we need is tartan. One in yellow, one in purple, and we need to have a sign in that says sibling rivalry in the middle. And then Patty went there. Patty was like, oh, yeah, the booth is set up. It looks really great. But then in Patty defense, Monet and I also showed up. We were like, yeah, it looks great.

[Monet X Change]

We could not see it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everything looks fantastic. Monet and I, for two days at

[Monet X Change]

dragcon, posing in front of the sign, living it up, laughing it up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On day two, at the end of the day, on day two, someone said. Someone just said Sibling Riverly, y'. All. The sign said Sibling. This is a picture of it. The sign said Sibling Riverly. The fact that we were just sitting in front of the sign for two days without a clue. I mean, completely clueless, with a sign that said Sibling River. That shit was wild. Honestly, I'm kind of glad that it ended up being a kind of like.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

But also.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But all the.

[Monet X Change]

But again, so it's not Patty's fault. Bitch. Everyone. People stood in the line for it for hours, and no one saw it because the way the text was, it was really. It was like one of those curse rings.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It looks like it's cursed, so you can't see the. It got past me.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So that was. So My first dragon was a fucking nightmare.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was your first one? It was my first one ever. Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

Poor baby. But after that, bitch Patty slayed. It's the one after that. New York. We did, like, my little stoop setup, which was really dope.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was really nice. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

This one, I had the garbage cans, the walls. Yours. Yours. You did the Sale Asylum?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I did. Yeah. I did the. Yeah, I did the padded. The padded wall with the bad. And I had the bed, and I had my name carved into the wall.

[Monet X Change]

It was great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was in a straight jacket on the bed. Yeah, that was. That was very. That was a. I had some bangers at DragCon. My first DragCon.

[Monet X Change]

The clown one, my.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. My very, very, very first dragon was just. I just had a big vinyl thing that said Bob. I like. It was the second dragcon, and it hadn't evolved to this whole, like, people doing these intense.

[Monet X Change]

Who was the first big, intense booth person? I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think one of the first big ones was actually Shea Coulee. Shea had this. I might be wrong. Shea. Cool. A. In New York had this really intense thing. There was, like, a chandelier in there, and, like, she would mail you, email you your pictures.

[Monet X Change]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She, like. Her. Her prices were higher because she was giving a much higher product a big experience. Yes. It was really. It was like you couldn't see inside. You had to go inside, though. It was really this.

[Monet X Change]

I love those. Bob doesn't like those. All of my boobs. You had to. You could not see me from the outside. The only way you can see me was you had to come in to see me. But you don't like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I just didn't do. I just never did that. I also just. I just feel like I'm in a cave. Like, I feel like I'm just in a dragcon is. You're all. You're sitting there for so long, and I want to see people walking by. There's, like, really beautiful people in fun costumes, hot guys, you know, families. You see celebrities walking by, and it seemed it just. For me, it's more fun to be able to see them. See people, like, living their lives out in the thing. You can see the line also. I. This is something that. Oh, that's like. You don't. Monet does not like to see the finish line.

[Monet X Change]

No, I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet just wants to be surprised with the end. I want to see how, like, when I'm working out, when I'm doing. When I'm working, when I'm. When I'm doing paperwork, anything. I want to see how far I have to go. That feels more comforting to me.

[Monet X Change]

No, no, I want it to just happen. Because if I. Because if I. If I'm constantly focused on the end of it, that's all I'm thinking about. So. And then I. And I don't want to, like. Because for me, if I see that, then I'll, like, start to, like, rush you. Because I think. I think I'm running out of time. I want to give everyone the same experience and not, like, cheat anyone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So if you're in a treadmill, do you put, like, your phone over the. Over the.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, my phone goes over the things. I don't see how many hats I have to go left. And then when it's done, I'm like, whoa, it's done. Great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is. That is very. I. I am. I am the exact. I love to see how far I have to go. So give me all your boosts. So I didn't finish mine. So first was the big vinyl, and then I did this throne. I had two thrones.

[Monet X Change]

So by myself, I was a clown one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm getting there.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, did you too, Bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've done a few. So by my second dragcon, I was over the constant touching, and I got sick. My very first dragcon, I got very sick immediately after dragcon. And I forgot to say all this. They used to do dragcon on the same week as the finale of Drag Race. So I need y' all to remember this. On my very first DragCon, I was doing, you wake up, you have to get to Dragon, or you can get whenever you want. You set your own hours. But if you want to make more money, you show up around, like, 9 o' clock in the morning in full drag at Dragcon in LA. I did not live here, so I had to ship all my stuff here, get all my. All my stuff to la. Luckily, my management company is here, so I had my merch here.

[Monet X Change]

Allegedly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Allegedly. So I was. I had to wake up at nine in the morning. No, I had to wake up at, like, 6, 7 to be able to get to DragCon by 9. And then you do the whole thing. And then after dragcon, which ends at like, five or six, we would go into rehearsals for the finale, and then you would do it again the next day. And then you would film the finale the day after DragCon. And then Kim, Naomi And I did press two mornings in a row. We had to be in full drag. I remember at this fucking whatever show, Billy Bush, Hollywood insiders or whatever Billy Bushes were. Billy Bush, by the way, is the guy who said, grab. Grab him by the pussy with Donald Trump. The one that Donald Trump's talking to is Billy Bush. Me, Cam and Amy put him in full drag.

[Monet X Change]

I remember this. Wow. So you're. So. You believe you should just grab one

[Bob the Drag Queen]

by the vagina or maybe we got grabbed.

[Monet X Change]

You can say that, Monet. Did you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I got it.

[Monet X Change]

Not at all. Billy was exposed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Billy Bush did not.

[Monet X Change]

Did you grab his bush?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, we did Billy. I. I actually didn't do anything. I actually didn't put him in drag because Kim and Amy were upset. They were like, we want to put him in drag, Bob. You can't do the makeup.

[Monet X Change]

Pop.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's not getting makeup. We'll do it. And I said, okay. So I literally just sat by the. I just sat around telling jokes while they. While they literally did all the work and put Billy Bush in drag. And I was like, y' all can do all this.

[Monet X Change]

I hate, but do you like people? No, I hate.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not. I'm not a makeup artist. I'm not. I don't. I'm not into doing transformations. I don't love that kind of stuff.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so vinyl wall.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So. So then I. I did the. The two thrones because I didn't want to touch people. So I gave you a throw, and I gave myself a throne. Then we would both sit and take a picture. And then I did the clown booth in New York City, the First New York DragCon. So I had this clown. I was wearing this, like, yellow and blue clown costume that I made, like, the night before with a little hat. Actually made the outfit the night before, which is probably not wise. And then I.

[Monet X Change]

It's funny wise.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then I did the clown. The Nutty House. And then my last one was with you in uk, where we do. Yeah, that's my last one. And then I. I have not done a DragCon since then.

[Monet X Change]

So the first one, I was supposed to be like a. Like. Like. Like. Like a bank robber. So my Domino did my outfit for it. It was like this, like, really dope Barbie thing with, like, a vinyl coat and a glass.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, black and white.

[Monet X Change]

Black and white. Yeah. So I was like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, sell it for, like,

[Monet X Change]

$3 on Depop for 250 bucks. Something like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then.

[Monet X Change]

So I was like a bank robber. And I was supposed to Be sitting on a. On a bale of money, like. Like. But the idea was you were going to be walking into my vault. This is a picture of what it would look like. You were supposed to be walking into a vault. I'll be sitting on the money because I heard you want somewhere to sit and then, bitch, also, I was in a corset all day. Who told me to fucking do that shit?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't wear a corset. Don't wear heels, girl, if you're going to wear hills, sit down.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, so I did that and that was the first year, but y' all saw that. Then the second year, we did the Stoop in New York City. I just wanted to make it look. Because it was the first.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It looked really great.

[Monet X Change]

It was. It was really good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's just include a lot of pictures here.

[Monet X Change]

Dan Daly designed it. He's this. He does stuff like that in New York. He's fucking great. Patty found him, of course, and he was really good where he designed the whole thing. Then the third year, then I was New York. And then I was like, you know what? I'm gonna do the same booth in LA and New York. Why am I doing two different booths? So then in LA and New York, 2019, I did the floral booth. It was no.

[Shopify Spokesperson]

Floral.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, no. Oh, yeah. I was a museum. You were at the Monet Museum. So it was like big pictures of me. Like, it was like a flower or something or plants behind me was. Was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what it was. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Like, it was a nod to Kehinde Wild, who painted the Obamas.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Candy Wiley.

[Monet X Change]

Candy Wiley, Yeah. So that. That was. That was. That was mine. And then we did Dragon UK in Riverly and I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The reason I haven't, you know, we

[Monet X Change]

had like one of the. We, like. We were like one of the top lines in uk. Oh, it was wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love that.

[Monet X Change]

Lines.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Top lines.

[Monet X Change]

I like doing a lot off of it. Have you ever done a lot of cocaine?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've never done a lot of cocaine in my life.

[Monet X Change]

I've never done cocaine. Same. I never done cocaine. I don't have any. It makes you really hyper. I'm like, I'm already hyper enough.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would know. I've never done cocaine.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that's what they say. I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I think that just. So let me tell you. So the structure of dragcon has changed. So back. I have not been on Drag Race in seven years, but back on my season. You had to appear at DragCon on your season. So if you did Drag Race. That season you are legally contracted to do Drag Race. Now, they do not make you. They don't make me.

[Monet X Change]

Dragcon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Dragcon, yes. Thank you. Now, they don't make you go all out, that is, you know, they will provide you a completely free table that you can sit at and just sign stuff. And I knew a few girls who did that, actually. Acid Betty did it. Chichi Devine did it. A couple girls. Like, I'm not spending all this stuff. They just. You just. They just give you a table. You sit there, people line up, and you just sign stuff from the table. A lot of us just wanted this big, extravagant experience. If you want the big experience and you had to pay for the booth. And this was the model for a. For pretty much a long time. We pay the same price as the vendors. Like when you say wigs and grays. We pay the same price.

[Monet X Change]

No, no, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I mean, back in the day, we did.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, well, they give you. They give you. Oh, but they give you a break. Like, they.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not. They didn't use.

[Monet X Change]

I'm saying. Well, okay, so maybe season. From season 10 on, they give you a break.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So then at season 10, they gave us this massive discount on the spaces. This massive discount. It was huge. You saved a lot of money. Which is why Milk, that one year, ended up buying 10 spaces, ice skating around and then did like, some, like, some, like, protest thing for Cheshire.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, is that what it was?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it was for. For Cheshire. Anyway, so that was the year that people were. So once they started giving us this massive discount, so you always had the option to go for free. That would just give you a table.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But then, um, Milk did this. This massive thing. A lot of people were doing really interesting stuff. The, The. The booth really went up when you started being able to buy multiple booths for significantly cheaper. And then in Drag Race uk, they flipped the script completely and they started paying the girls to come.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, they. Yeah, they paid the dragon and they

[Bob the Drag Queen]

paid us to come. But again, they pay to come. You don't. They don't pay for your booth. Once you get there, you can do whatever you want. But we chose to do an elaborate booth.

[Monet X Change]

And honestly, if I ever did a DragCon game, which I. Because I'm not doing this coming DragCon. Yeah, I'm not doing it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I might go, though.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I'm definitely going to go. I can go on Sunday. Can we go on Sunday together?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would love to. Sounds like fun.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I'll message someone to get us some passes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Work.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. If I Do it again, bitch. I'm getting one of the fucking tables and I'm literally going to be like, just in like a booth at one of them tables with a curtain in front and a patty going to be the next one selling some merch and. Hi. I'm not, I'm not doing another labyrinth booth.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Why not? Because.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But doesn't it look so kind when you see the picture?

[Monet X Change]

You're like, it's so stressful, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who said some of your favorite booths?

[Monet X Change]

Some of my favorite booths, honestly. My soup one is literally one of my favorites.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You smart. Valentina. Who's my favorite drag queen? I am my favorite drag queen.

[Monet X Change]

I liked mine. I'm trying to think of other ones I've seen that I liked. I've never really been to dragcon. I never went to dragcon before Dragon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you walk around when you had dragcon?

[Monet X Change]

No, I'm. I'm in my booth making money the whole day. I. I see the people around me immediately. Peppermint had a nice, a nice diner one or something. She did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Pepper had this diner thing one time. Cracker had like a kitchen table. Silky Nick Ganache had like a restaurant type thing. Sasha Velour always has a really nice booth. It's just like floor to ceiling velour curtains with these really cool, what do you call it? Neon light. It's like the eyebrow and the eye,

[Monet X Change]

but it's so simple.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Very, very simple, but very, very effective. Ms. Fame had this really cool. Where there was this big. You know, fame is. Fame is known for the fashion headache and the fashion toothache like this. So it was this big thing where there was these hands, but they were between her and the people. So you could not get. You couldn't get to Miss Fame. You literally could not reach her. I think that Dusty Ray Bottoms had a really cool booth one time where it was kind of like a maze.

[Monet X Change]

Dots.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you had to go through like a maze to get to her. Of course. Shea Coulee with the chandelier, I never saw that one was a great one. I think Vanjie was at like a laundromat. I feel like Vanjie did a laundromat theme one time.

[Monet X Change]

Why?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I might be making that up, but I feel like I remember going to see Vanjie her first year and she was like, at a laundromat.

[Monet X Change]

Why?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. Bitches. I don't know. I'm not Vanjie. Jesus Christ. Because she cleaning up all these holes. I don't fucking know.

[Monet X Change]

So Aggressive.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Willem had like video games at her booth one time where you could like play video games. Yeah, it was a laundromat.

[Monet X Change]

It was a red laundromat. That looks cool. That looks really cool.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why?

[Monet X Change]

Because it's all red and why, bitch? I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bitch. I don't know. She was at a fucking laundromat one time.

[Monet X Change]

That's cool. You like that booth?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It looks really good. I thought it looked cool when I first saw it and I still to this day think it looks cool.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, if you could do. If you could. If, let's say you were you're going to do another lab review with, what would it be?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I might do one. I mean, I, I love a theme. Everyone knows me. I love a good theme. I might maybe pick one of my looks from where? Here? And then base a booth around that look like maybe my, my, my floral priestess look. And then maybe I have like flowers all over the wall.

[Monet X Change]

Very bohemian.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it's like you're in like a garden. Oh, that'd be so cute.

[Monet X Change]

No, you need to do the hair look and have like a whole like a beauty shop. And then all day just play the season eight theme. Season eight is gonna curl your hair.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But the outfit's not comfortable. And that is the most important thing about dragcon is you have to. When I tell you it is an endurance game. You need to be comfortable, baby. Believe me, anyone out there, whether you are a vendor or a drag queen who's gonna be on the show coming up, Listen to me when I tell you. Comfort should be your number one priority when it comes to participating in DragCon. Either as a merchant, as a patron, as a queen. No matter what you're doing, it is

[Monet X Change]

a long haul and Bitch. What was it the year. Bitch. My last DragCon New York DragCon and the Thing. Bitch. I was, I was comfortable. I was wearing my. I wore my oversized sweaters. I wore your.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Your. The. The. The Doc Martens you gas lit me on.

[Monet X Change]

I do wear those. Yeah, I was comfortable.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honey, you. Are you wearing this? The shirt.

[Monet X Change]

The shirt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The shirt. Just like one of. One of your legend mon shirts. Like a button up shirt?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I wore it. No, that. That was the stoop year.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In my stolen jacket.

[Monet X Change]

That was a stoop year.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I. I was very comfortable that year. The. The mon and I were separate. But why did they put miss Fame between us?

[Monet X Change]

I don't know as fuck with us.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, I. I was very confident. I was wearing my straight jacket that the lady Hyde made me and I Was wearing a little bit of tulle underneath it. I was not wearing corsets. I just had on titties. My wig. The wig was by Serena Chacha. And I got my wig on time, and it was lovely.

[Monet X Change]

Hey, Chacharinas.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And actually, I went and bought the wig from her booth. I literally went straight to her booth about the wig.

[Monet X Change]

Allegedly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Allegedly. Allegedly. And. And that. And also. Can I say what you're gonna say? I probably am making this up.

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I think that I changed the game.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. On what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On the. On the. On the Queen's walk. So they do this thing where they would. So here's the thing. So the. My. The season. The season after one Drag Race, they were like, hey, we're gonna do this thing where all the queens. I said. I said, hey, I wanna make a grand entrance into Drag Race. That's what I said. They didn't used to do these big queen walks, the royalty walks. They did not used to do them. They did not used to do them. And I said, I'm the queen this year, and I want to make a big grand entrance. I want to get, like, a band

[Monet X Change]

or get Bob dragcon started with your season.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it did not. Dragcon was the season before my season.

[Monet X Change]

What season?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My first season. So when I. When I did my first DragCon, I hadn't actually won Drag Race yet.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And that was the second dragcon, so the third dragcon, I was the running queen.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so you don't think there's a chance they didn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm saying.

[Monet X Change]

They're saying that they were figuring. It's the second. It was the second annual. They were figuring it out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was a third.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So anyway, so. Cause my first dragcon, there was no Queen wall. They didn't do any kind of a queen wall. Why are you hating? Let me just acknowledge that I changed the game. So I called him up and I said, listen, I want to do a very big entrance for myself. I want to do. I wanna get, like, a band or do something really elaborate and exotic so I can enter DragCon, let everyone know the Queen is here. That sounds really fun to me. And they were like, yeah, let's arrange that. And then they were like, you know what? Actually, we're gonna have everyone. We're gonna have all the winners walk. So we're gonna do a big seven people, and then we're gonna have you come out in the end. And I was, okay. So it literally was my idea. I told them, I said, I wanna do a Grand Engine. They said, we're gonna get all the winners to walk one at a time. And then I had this throne that was on these things. I had these guys lift my big ass up and we did not practice. And they were like, oh, they were like this.

[Monet X Change]

Who are the guys?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do I know them? I can't remember.

[Monet X Change]

Some dancers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, someone here found them for me. I think a dancer I worked with previously, a dancer from the Purse Verse video. I think Barbie's Addiction actually found them for me. I was like. I was like, I need large, strong people to hold me up. And she found these four. These four guys who I had this like, grand music playing. And they. They. I cut around the corner and I was on this. It was like literally like. You know when they're holding you on. On the shoulders, the rod on the shoulders.

[Monet X Change]

Very Cleopatra.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Cleopatra. But getting down was a T. I was like, you have to get. We have to be out of eyeshot before you. Before you put my ass down. Because it was a whole kiki. Trying to get my big ass off that thing. So I really did, actually. My. My calling was saying I want to do the big walk.

[Monet X Change]

Was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was the beginning of the. The royalty walk. You're welcome. The one that you participated in, the one that I.

[Monet X Change]

The one we did that one year. And then I was after Trixie and then. And I jumped on top of her. Her thing. And there's this picture of Trixie because she had no idea what was coming. I just run and I jumped on her horse and she. There's a shot of me like. And she's like, it's very cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They make you and Trinity walk together?

[Monet X Change]

No, they. They decept separately.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you were wearing. That was when you were wearing the. The flannel.

[Monet X Change]

Who walked first?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Me.

[Monet X Change]

Alphabetical, maybe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Diabetical. Diabolical, I think. And then my other walks I've done. I did one time I was on my straight jacket. I had someone will me on a hand truck.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, I remember that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

While I was in the straight jacket and then in the uk, I just.

[Monet X Change]

I just walked. Yeah, we just walked.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They also. They also didn't do us in any order.

[Monet X Change]

Came out. Yes, they did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it was. It wasn't like. Because they normally. It's like the winners. And then. Then they have everyone else come out in la. I was just like, in London, they're

[Monet X Change]

like, whoever's here because they're like, because. Because the real queen is sitting in the castle.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then we. So we walked down. Then Rue came down the stairs yeah. They were like, walk the Runway and then go up the stairs. Everyone walk the Runway and go up the stairs.

[Monet X Change]

You, me, and Vivian were at the bottom. Yeah. And Rue was right next to us.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then. Yeah. We didn't know she was coming.

[Monet X Change]

We did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They did not announce.

[Monet X Change]

That was such a good drag on you. I remember at one point, Ru was on to say ZJ Ing. And I was like, oh, my God, Patty. I want to go see Ru. So Patty wanted me to go. To go watch the show. And, like, Ru is, like, up here in this booth thing, and we were. This one. You were getting your little tooth candy thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

And I was like, oh, my God. Ru, he was like, monet X, change y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All.

[Monet X Change]

Monet X, change, y'. All. And I was like, oh, my God, he knows me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I still have a picture of me and RuPaul that my mom posted of me and RuPaul at DragCon. My. Wait till you see what I'm wearing.

[Monet X Change]

What? Wait till you see what I'm wearing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're gonna be like, boop. Who do you think has the best. The best merch of all the girls you're seeing?

[Monet X Change]

Of all the girls? I don't think anyone has the best merch. I think sometimes I see a girl with something really cool. I'm like, oh, my God, I love that. But there's not someone who I feel like consistently always have the best merch. And also, I think merch changes, you know, I mean, I can't say, well,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

what's some of your favorite merch you're saying then?

[Monet X Change]

I love Shay's shady koolaid shirt with the koolaid, man. I think that's so funny. I fucking love that shirt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. You also love Alaska's fanny pack. You were freaking out. Oh, my God. Alaska fan freaking out about this fanny pack.

[Monet X Change]

Well. Cause it's just so well done. And, you know, sometimes people post merch, people make merch, and it's just not the best quality stuff that kind of falls apart. It's good for a little while.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But Alaska's bitch, I'm possessed by Al Bch.

[Monet X Change]

Who? But Alaska, all of her stuff for her Red Fulfill tour. Cause it got postponed, and she did a show with me, and she gave me some of it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All the tours again. This is wild the way that the tours have all been postponed. It is wild. I cannot. It is. I mean, I can't believe it. Because obviously the whole world is trying to, like, catch up with itself right now, but it is Wild.

[Monet X Change]

It was very. Oh, wow. Shady. Oh. So wait, so they.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's a cute picture, though. I'll send this.

[Monet X Change]

That was the year to Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Jacob can.

[Monet X Change]

That was the other. RuPaul was, like, roller skating around DragCon, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He came early, I think. That wasn't the roller skating. That was. That was. I feel like that was my first dragcon. So that was the second dragcon, and she was just. She was literally just walking around. It was. It was the day before the actual thing, so there was like a. Like a friends and family night or something, right? And it was just like the day before the thing, and she was just walking around, and I was like, oh, my God. Hey, Ru. And she was like, hey, let's go to a quick picture. I gave her a shirt.

[Monet X Change]

Do you think. Do you think RuPaul ever wore that shirt?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

RuPaul put that shit in the trash.

[Monet X Change]

I went to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think I've ever actually seen RuPaul. Might say, I don't think I've ever seen RuPaul in a T shirt that wasn't. That wasn't in a movie.

[Monet X Change]

I've seen him in a T shirt. When on season on All Stars 4, he would come and he would like. On season 10 and All Stars 4, he would come in his, like, in his. In his tracks with bottoms. His red and black tracks with bottoms, and he would have a T shirt on, and sometimes he would take it off. He'll put it on. Oh, exactly. And he would like. And also while we're doing some of the challenges. Cause so Ru can, like, take. Honestly, people are like, oh, Ru has no idea. On season 10 of All Stars 4, Ru would come and watch us do the challenges as we bring them. Like, we would see him there, like, incognigro, not in drag, and he would watch us do the challenges. So, you know, to get an idea

[Bob the Drag Queen]

what happened,

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

And breathe.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you have any specific memorable moments from DragCon, whether it be fan interactions or interactions with other drag queens?

[Monet X Change]

Maybe, but one of the things that I took away, especially from my first couple DragCons. I was so shocked to see how many families came to dragcon. I was shocked to see how many parents were bringing their little 6, 7, 8 year old kids and how they all watched the show together. I was genuinely shocked about that. I mean, obviously I knew there would be some families watching, but the volume and seeing how many kids were there, I was like, wow, parents are really watching us. Like, with, like. They're like little ass children, like their babies. Like, this is like. This was crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

One of my favorite moments is when Monet came to my booth. Monet had just gotten a dragcon, and Monet was like, I'm gonna come see Bob. And Monet was with a camera crew, or I was with a camera crew. There was a camera crew there. Because there's a lot of people who go by just to interview the queens and get for, like, different, like, media outlets and YouTube channels and TikToks and all this stuff. But y', all, like, Monet's was like a building. Monet had, like, two, like. Like two by fours. And mine was just like. Mine was fabric because it was like padded walls. It was like fabric. So Monet comes in, Janky, you know, Juggernaut comes in and hits the wall. The entire wall? Yes.

[Monet X Change]

The entire wall did not fall down?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, the wall started to. The walls. You didn't let me finish. The whole wall started to come in. Monet goes, ah. Ah. So Monet starts grabbing the wall, and then the people at my. At my booth start grabbing the wall because Monet was almost knocked down. The entire. There is literally video of the judge denied.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, There is. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's literally video.

[Monet X Change]

You're adding a lot of sauce. I. Yes. I knocked the wall and, like, may have thinking a little.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The whole.

[Monet X Change]

The wall was not coming out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No one had to, but people grabbed it.

[Monet X Change]

That is not true. That is. I remember the video. It was. It's a very funny video. I had it on my. On my Instagram. Bob is acting like I came in like. Like Shea Kool Lady.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Acting like I started throwing all his walls around. That's not what happened. You are so dramatic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You almost.

[Monet X Change]

You are so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You must have walked around seven times because the walls of Jericho came tumbling down.

[Monet X Change]

Oh,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm getting Botox today.

[Monet X Change]

Are you excited?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A little bit. We're going back to film. We're here and.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, where are you getting it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On my forehead.

[Monet X Change]

Can you scrunch it up so we can see? So you want to get rid of all of these little lines. Yeah, got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm afraid of going in and having her be like, oh, you don't want to. Like, in my mind, I'm going to go. I'm going to go, like, so you're getting it here, here and here and here and here, right? And I'd be like, no.

[Monet X Change]

What'd you do? A little filler? Would you do a little. A little.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A little.

[Monet X Change]

That. That would be kind you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not the suggestions.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, not the suggestions. Big full lips.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You mean lip filler? Yeah, like, get, like, me filling in my little.

[Monet X Change]

No, no, no. Lip filler so that your lips just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would never get. I would never get anything.

[Monet X Change]

Get the kea cars.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Get lips done.

[Monet X Change]

I would. I would put some on the top.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's stopping you? You have. You have the resources and the time.

[Monet X Change]

Could you imagine? Hey, vomit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I remember when I'm used to get her lips done and. And she. Her lips would be numb because she couldn't, like, fill them. So she'd be talking and, like, lip gloss would just be pouring, literally falling off of her lips. She'd just be talking and it'd be like thick, like lip gloss covered in the lipstick. And she. She literally couldn't even see it. I was like, naomi, your lips are dripping goo, honey. The next time you see me, this forehead will be immobile, honey. Full on immobile.

[Monet X Change]

So you mentioned the meet and greets earlier, and that was like, dragcons really got me, like, crazy about meet and greets. Cause, you know, I am. You and I are both taller. And then so fans, when they come, they will hug you and they will, like, they oftentimes do this for the picture. And I started to be so conscious of people's wet, sweaty armpits. Like, it would start to fucking gross me out. And then if you're wearing like, if I wear like long braids, that was the year I had those long dreads. Like, literally, like, that spot on my dreads was wet. And when I would smell it, it would smell of so much body odor from. From the whole day. Again, not everyone is sweaty, but sometimes people are. They're excited to meet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you have three sweaty ones, that's enough to give you some odor.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, they're excited to meet their favorite dragon, whatever it is. And it will be like, just a little sweat. I'd be like, oh, my God. I feel. I was like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So before you, before you make it to me, the person in the line would say, you can't touch, Bob. No touching. So I never had that problem. And they would. They were very embarrassing. Like, they would be like, you can't. And they were. They would give you hand sanitizer because I got so sick the first time I got. But I've gotten sick every time I've done Dragon. I have never. You remember? And in the. In the uk, I left and I was like, we're sick.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah. Both of us got sick in uk. That was the first time I ever got sick of Dragon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I got sick. I've gotten sick at every single time. Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

That's when we were both on that flight.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We were coming back up. We were.

[Monet X Change]

There's a vlog.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We can post the vlog link in the chat. It's from my page.

[Monet X Change]

And we were both in the van going home. We were always like. I was like, bob, how you doing? Like, Monet, I'm not well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I am not well. I was fucking sick. So I would make them do hand sanitizer, and they would say, please don't touch Bob. So I never had that. But also, Aquaria tweeted out one time because Aquaria is short. You know, the armpit goes on her right on your shoulder. So Akwera was like, I can just smell every one arm bleed. I was gonna vomit on that all day. Imagine just leaning and being like, oh, God.

[Monet X Change]

It really. Like, it makes my skin crawl. Cause it's always, like, a little wet and moist, too. After they leave. It's like, ugh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You ever had any interesting panel moments?

[Monet X Change]

I've only done. Cause Patty, again, Patty is like. Patty's like a little drill sergeant. Patty's like, monet's not doing any panels. We're staying at a booth all day. And then they're like, what about Bob? Like, Monet's not doing any panels. I think Patty. We can do the same rivalry one. And then Patty would allow me to do the same rivalry panel, but he would only let me literally do the ones with sim rivalry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like. I like doing panels.

[Monet X Change]

I like them, but the more. The less times you're at your booth, the less times chance you have to make money.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's true. And when you. The thing is, y', all. The reason why girls are charging money to see them is because these booths are elaborate. And if you do not. If you don't make the money back, it's just. It just cost you money to do DragCon. So you have to just be there, just constantly selling stuff so that you can sometimes even, like, maybe not break even. But, like, it depends on how much you spend on your booth? I've spent a lot of money on my booth before, and I learned over time, like, it doesn't have to be all that.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So you have to. So roughly, like, the booth costs, like, to. If you get. If you get like a really creative, elaborate booth, maybe cost you. That will cost you maybe about. You're paying the designer the materials, et cetera. That's about $4,000. Then you have. Y' all don't realize you have to pay for electricity. You have to pay for Internet. You have to pay for the curtain

[Bob the Drag Queen]

drapery thing and pay the people who run your booth.

[Monet X Change]

And you have to pay people who run your booth.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So then everyone you see at the booth, they're all working.

[Monet X Change]

They're working. So that's again, another. Maybe you're spending like another 3,000 bucks, maybe 2,000. $3,000.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then costume.

[Monet X Change]

Then you have to. Then you have to pay for your look, your hair. Then you have to buy all your merch. You're paying for all this merch is not free. So you spent like 2,000, $2,000 on t shirts.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It can be easily, easily between 10 and $20,000 just to do drag, just to drive, just to do it.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. And then. So you want to make that money back, plus somewhere else, you're just. You're paying to give people things away.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And everyone. I cannot believe these girls are charging. Bitch. I can. Will say the other day, girls charging? Yeah, I. Yes, I guess I charge.

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy that he has that disposition.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I was like, I can't be. Girls are charging. Go to upset. Yeah, well, I do, because otherwise I would be losing my money. But then maybe isn't that on you for spending too much money on your

[Monet X Change]

booth and out outfit?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What if you want. If you want it to look nice, though, like, you want your boobs to look nice, you want to have a great thing. Which is also about why I don't do drags anymore.

[Monet X Change]

And these kids will. And these kids will come online and read you like you got Bob. Bob clothes won in season eight, season late. Look at how. How tired that booth was. You know what I mean? Yeah. They will go online and drag you for your booth saying that it was

[Bob the Drag Queen]

subpar and you want it to look nice. You want. You want to have a nice thing, so you charge. I. I think it makes sense to. It's kind of why, like, fast fashion is cheap and, you know, other brands cost more because they spend more time on what they make.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which is why the Product costs more, Jacob.

[Monet X Change]

Like, well, isn't your fault being a dumb bit, spending all your money in your booth, you idiots? That's what I heard.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I had an interesting panel one time. I did a panel about activism, and

[Monet X Change]

I had the clip.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you really? What are you talking about?

[Monet X Change]

Go ahead. I'm sure we're talking about the same thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh. Anyway, I was. I have this panel on activism, and this one lady was. Was going on about how, like, it's not enough. It's not enough to just tweet. It's not enough to do this. It's not enough to do that. You have to so and so and so and so. And then me and this lady had this, like, contentious moment where we went back and forth, and I was like, well, that is a very interesting. I can't remember what I said, but I was like, you can't police how people do their activism. Some people do activism in different ways. Some people don't have the ability to go and knock on doors. Some people cannot get up, leave their homes, and go knock on people's doors. Some people don't have the. The funds, the physical ability to do that. Some people, all they can muster up is one tweet. So, like, you know, I just have this. This, like, slight argument moment with this.

[Monet X Change]

Like, this is one of my favorite things you said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me say. I think that in terms of this administration, it's really interesting because I think for the first time in the history of America, an overwhelming majority of the population feels like the administration is against them. I want to say this is not unusual for queer people and for people of color. For people of color, we're not. Like, this is not the first time we've had a president be against us. So I think that, like, straight white folks, like, what do we do? This has never happened. And black folks are like, this feels like the last 400 years points were made.

[Monet X Change]

And Eureka was like, yeah, y'.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mm. Well, it was an activism panel with me, Eureka, Alaska.

[Monet X Change]

And who was that lady?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The moderate? I can't remember. I've done comedy panels before with, like, Jackie B. I've done. I've done a few. I like doing the panels. They're fun for me.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So. So you and I are going to dragcon this year. Well, one year, you came out of drag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, me and Jacob went. This was when you did the museum. No, it was because me and Jacob, I was out of drag, and I was wearing. I was wearing this clown mask.

[Monet X Change]

All right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob was wearing a Power Ranger.

[Monet X Change]

Mask in la. You. Yeah, yeah. Okay. How are you going to go this year? How are you going to hide?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe I won't. Maybe we'll go in full drag and take pictures for free. No, take pictures with other people. I will cut all the lines.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, let me tell you something. I am going.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm cutting the lines.

[Monet X Change]

Let me say something, what I'm doing this year, because she posted, she was like, I am at headquarters. She was like, I am at headquarters and I have spoken to the powers that be and an overwhelming majority of you want me a DragCon. So I will be there this year. I'm going to Tamisha's booth. I'm standing in line and I'm getting a picture with the queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is.

[Monet X Change]

First of all, I don't think Tamisha, if I am out of drag, I don't think she even recognizes me. The Rickon. The Rickon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What if she just hits you?

[Monet X Change]

If she hits me, then there will be two scrapping hoes at drag cards.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I tell you my favorite tweet about the Will Smith thing. Someone said, you're not about to slap me and walk away. We better embarrass the whole black population on stage.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but, you know, but you know, then Chris Rock, like, he. He put out this whole thing in his book that came out earlier this year saying how, like, when he was like, when he was in school. I don't want to bastardize it, but when he was in school, he was get picked on a lot. And then one time he like, he like, it was like he had hit what's. It was his boiling point and he like got crazy on this one bully and it's like he is like scared to go to that place again so that he doesn't allow himself to get that way. So, like, when you have. There are a lot of other things that we don't know about this thing

[Bob the Drag Queen]

that there's a lot of layers. Yeah, a lot of layers. Would you ever do Dragon again? No. No.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I don't know. Probably I would do it again just right now. I just. I really don't have the desire to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If I can get someone to sponsor my booth.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, a sponsor. Maybe if they sponsored everything from like. Yeah, if someone sponsored my entire booth,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I want to show up. Sell merchant leave.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe have one or two creative meetings.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I would do that. And maybe that's what some other girls do. We just don't know. We're not being asked. I have heard of some girls who have done sponsored booths for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would team up with one. I would team up with someone like Wigs and Grace or one of those companies and be like, if you're gonna have a booth, I'll fucking. We can benefit each other.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, people come by Wigs, see the wigs, come see me.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You ever feel bad for the queens who don't have lines?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When you go, that is uncomfortable.

[Monet X Change]

Just sitting there, ball headed and confused.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Girl, it is so uncomfortable.

[Monet X Change]

It's very. And I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It.

[Monet X Change]

It is. Yeah. I don't like seeing that. It's very weird.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. It's. It's hard to walk by and see

[Monet X Change]

a girl just sitting there, just being like. Every time in DragCon when we. Every time I would like go outside, check the line and see like you had no one, I would be like, oh, my God, this. I feel bad for Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not all of us can. Not all of us are fan favorite, you know? All right. I love you very much.

[Monet X Change]

We're not done.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm gonna get Botox.

[Monet X Change]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm so sorry. Tell. Tell us you don't care about our

[Monet X Change]

listeners without telling us you don't care about your listeners.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This episode is already an entire hour long.

[Monet X Change]

This episode is not. This episode is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just want to remind you, everyone, that we have before this, we're gonna do a podcast.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know about this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, we both did.

[Monet X Change]

We said that we're going to. I was here when you said this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. We're gonna record the intro later. You both said this. So if you all look down at your screen, you'll notice right now that this is already at least an hour long. That's why I don't feel bad. These two are now these. The gas light. They have teamed up the gas and the light.

[Monet X Change]

Honey, I look so fire, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I am the match in. Me and Amy.

[Monet X Change]

Listen to Kahlo. You would love her music. Kahlo. I look so fire, bitch. I am the match.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Girl rap.

[Monet X Change]

I look so fire bitch, I am.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it girl rap?

[Monet X Change]

No, my name is Paulo.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said it's a girl rap.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it's like in the same. It's in this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was in the same, like elected layer 47.

[Monet X Change]

Sounds like that. No more Azalea. Banksy.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Britney Spears is pregnant. What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Britney Spears is pregnant.

[Monet X Change]

Shut the up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's 40 now. You can be. You can be. You can be 40 and pregnant just now.

[Shopify Spokesperson]

Yep.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Congrats, Brit.

[Monet X Change]

Should we get Brit on the podcast?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, you can be 40 and pregnant. I mean. Hey, Google, how old is Britney spears, she's at 42. I feel like. Do you get complications with pregnancy that way?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, they say, like, after like, 35, it's. You can be risky and then. But my friend. My friend's mom had her when she was 45. She's fine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Congratulations to Britney Spears.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Oh, my God. Do you think. What are the chances that one of us would be the God?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Slim.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I'd say so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But would you say. Would you accept.

[Monet X Change]

Would you accept the position as Britney Spears of godparent? Yeah. Hell no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why?

[Monet X Change]

I don't mean. No one's godparent. If the person dies, you have to take care of the kids.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, they don't really. That's not. I mean, as a formality, but not really. That's not really.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I'm just saying. That's what I mean. If I ask you to be the godparent of my kid, if I pass away, I have the expectation that you would take this kid as your own.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If I die, you'd be dead. I don't have to live up to any expectations. You don't even know.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but dishonest. That commitment that you made with me, then don't accept being the godparent.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I haven't so.

[Monet X Change]

Well, in the world that you did, you was like, oh, it's nothing, whatever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you're like, ain't nothing to it.

[Monet X Change]

But to do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If I was going to accept the position, be like, just so you know, this is a formality. I'm not going to take care of your. Your child.

[Monet X Change]

And I would say, it's not a formality. That's what I want.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then I'll say, I don't accept the position.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, then you won't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then I say, what, I have a God? Yes. I have a godfather.

[Monet X Change]

He is dead.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He died before my mom did.

[Monet X Change]

So I don't know who my godparent is because, you know, June was wild. I don't know who it is. Might be RuPaul.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't who the fuck we're. My godfather's name was Herman Askew, and he passed away when I was in, like, college. Right before college. How'd he know your mom? How did he know my mom? I don't know. Maybe they were dating.

[Monet X Change]

Maybe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe they knew each other from. He was just like, this guy that came around the house, and I think maybe they, like, dated for, like, a short while when they realized they were better as friends. So then his children used to babysit me and my brother, and we were like, Herman Askew. Herman Askew. We called him Askew. He was a drill sergeant in the US Military work.

[Monet X Change]

Herman seemed, you know, Herman seemed a little askew.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, thank you all so much for joining us.

[Monet X Change]

Just a little bit. This has been wonderful.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This hour long episode has been fantastic.