The One About Dreams

Summary

Sibling Rivalry – The One About Dreams (June 8, 2022)

Episode Overview

In this lively episode, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change dive into the world of dreams—literal and metaphorical. With their signature chemistry and quick wit, they explore topics ranging from childhood fame to the cultural pride of where they're from, before settling into a rich discussion on sleep, dreams, nightmares, sleep paralysis, family traditions, and dream interpretation. Throughout, they entertain with playful debates, personal stories, and their unfiltered takes.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. Childhood Fame & Growing Up in Different Places (01:22–08:30)

• The episode opens with Bob and Monét marveling at childhood stars like Raven-Symoné and the Olsen twins, reflecting on what it must be like to always be famous.
• Discussion veers into the uniqueness of growing up in New York City versus the South. Bob is fascinated by NYC kids’ experience: “The train system, there’s very little grass. Like, how far you guys have to go...there’s no woods.” (05:19, Bob)
• Monét pushes back: “Especially from Brooklyn... a big part of West Indian culture too is everyone has barbecues... in the yard. Everyone has a family house and they have a backyard.” (06:30, Monét)

Notable Quote

• “People from Brooklyn and people from Texas, you're kind of raised up with this—it’s almost a comical level of pride in where you're from.” (08:44, Bob)

2. The Brooklyn vs. Columbus Debate (08:44–14:50)

• Monét and Bob banter about which hometown—Brooklyn or Columbus, Georgia—has produced more icons, name-dropping celebrities in a humorous “who’s more iconic” showdown.
  • Monét lists: “Jay Z, Adam Sandler, Marisa Tomei, Lil Kim, Jerry Seinfeld, Eddie Murphy, Anne Hathaway...”
  • Bob defends Columbus with Ma Rainey and Wayne Brady, lampooning Monét’s competitive “Brooklyn pride.”
• The conversation pokes fun at “regional nationalism,” with Bob joking that “all you did was you were born in Brooklyn. You didn’t do anything!”

Memorable Exchange

• Monét: “Don’t be projecting your itssy craze about Columbus, Georgia on me, honey. Maybe you should step your pussy up.” (12:30, Monét)
• Bob: “Do you want to look stupid or do you want to admit...okay, yeah, exactly. Hey, she backs off. Oh, she’s backpedaling, your honor. She’s backpedaling.” (55:25, Bob)

3. Laughter, Reality TV Tropes, and Setting the Mood (15:22–17:42)

• The duo discuss how their laughs have evolved over the years.
• They poke fun at classic reality TV tropes: “At the end of the day” and “I didn’t come here to make friends.” (17:36, Bob)

4. The Main Theme: Dreams – Real, Lucid, and Nightmares (19:07–38:12)

Monét’s Anxiety Dream (19:07–21:26)

• Monét recounts a vivid nightmare involving a car accident caused by texting and driving:
  • “I was driving...and I was texting while I was driving, and when I looked up...something hit me…It caused me to drive my car off the side of the road…The other people weren’t dead, but they weren’t okay...I remember thinking to myself, I cannot believe I just had an accident. I cannot believe I caused it to happen.” (19:55, Monét)
• She describes waking up immensely relieved it was just a dream.

Dream Recall & Sleep Paralysis (21:26–26:24)

• Bob admits to rarely dreaming anymore, but used to experience intense sleep paralysis:
  • “You are awake, but you cannot move anything…You’re just laying there. And there’s also this feeling like something or someone is in the room staring at you.” (22:33, Bob)
  • Describes the powerlessness and fear: “It feels like the most intense panic you ever had in your life.” (23:14, Bob)
  • Monét reads a definition and marvels: “That sounds horrible. I’ve never experienced sleep paralysis ever in my life.” (23:14, Monét)

Lucid Dreaming & Dream Logic

• Monét and Bob discuss lucid dreaming:
  • Monét: “I’ve never experienced lucid dreaming, but it sounds really dope…You can then control all of your actions in your dream.” (25:38, Monét)
  • Bob: “Whenever I’m in a dream, I always, on some level, know it’s a dream...but I’ve never been able to actually lucid dream.” (26:24, Bob)
• They laugh about dream logic: hybrid locations, seeing familiar yet impossible combinations.

5. Cultural Dream Beliefs & Family Stories (37:40–43:13)

• Discussion of “dream interpretation rules” like, “If you dream of fish, someone’s pregnant”—a trope in both Southern and Caribbean cultures.
• Monét shares a story of her grandmother having “prophetic” dreams:
  • “My grandma loves to dream. She was like, I dreamt that you had a lotto ticket and you left it at my house and you ended up winning…” (38:23, Monét)
• Bob recounts a childhood memory of a dream (possibly sleep paralysis) featuring an angel warning him, later correlating with his grandmother’s passing—a formative, uncanny experience.

6. Skepticism, Empaths, and Dream Interpretation (33:16–37:40)

• Listener feedback on Bob’s skepticism of “empaths” is read and debated.
• Bob: “Having empathy and being an empath are not the same thing.” (33:16, Bob)
• Monét is more open (“I believe empaths are real”), and both hosts invite the idea of having a self-identified empath on the show.
• Bob shares insights from a dream interpretation workshop: “Anyone who tells you that one thing means the same thing for everyone...that person is a scam artist.” (36:31, Bob)

7. Rapid-Fire “Common Dreams” & Drag Race Tidbits (48:15–52:58)

• The pair list and debunk typical “common dreams” (teeth falling out, being naked, cheating, flying), concluding neither has them.
• Brief asides into classroom antics, with Monét calling her friend Kamika to confirm a tale about improvising a Mariah Carey song for a school project and still getting a perfect grade. (52:13–52:58, Monét)

8. Cats, Friend Drama, and Classic Sibling Bickering (54:19–59:13)

• The hosts transition into pet stories, debating whether Monét’s cat is a bully, culminating in Bob threatening to call a mutual friend as “receipts.”
• Rapid-fire, witty banter and accusations fly, showcasing their sibling-like dynamic.

Notable Quotes

• “All I’m saying is you gave us some anecdotal evidence of your cat bullying another animal. That’s all I’m saying.” (58:31, Bob)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-------------|--------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:30 | Monét | “Don’t be projecting your itssy craze about Columbus, Georgia on me, honey. Baby used to step your pussy up.”| | 08:44 | Bob | “People from Brooklyn and people from Texas… almost a comical level of pride in where you’re from.” | | 19:55 | Monét | “It was one of those dreams you have when it feels so real… I woke up and I was like, oh my God.” | | 22:33 | Bob | “[Sleep paralysis]… you are awake but you cannot move anything… you’re just laying there… feels like panic.” | | 36:31 | Bob | “Anyone telling you that one thing means the same for everyone… that person is a scam artist.” | | 38:23 | Monét | “My grandma loves to dream… she dreamt that you had a lotto ticket and you left it at my house…” | | 55:25 | Bob | “Do you want to look stupid or do you want to admit...okay, yeah, exactly. Hey, she backs off.” |

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Segment Timestamps

• 00:59: Episode starts—Bob and Monét introduce the topic and each other.
• 01:22–08:44: Childhood fame, growing up in NYC vs. the South, and “Brooklyn pride.”
• 08:44–14:50: Brooklyn vs. Columbus icons showdown.
• 15:22–17:36: Laugh evolution & reality TV tropes.
• 19:07–38:12: Main dream discussion, nightmares, sleep paralysis, lucid dreaming, personal anecdotes.
• 33:16–37:40: Listener letter; “empath” discourse and dream interpretation science.
• 37:40–43:13: Family dream beliefs and “prophetic” grandma dream.
• 48:15–52:58: Common dreams Q&A and school memories.
• 54:19–59:13: Cat drama and playful sibling bickering.

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Tone and Style

• Playful, comedic, and energetic with quick back-and-forth banter.
• Deep yet irreverent when discussing personal or vulnerable stories.
• Unfiltered language: strong opinions, some cursing, plenty of inside jokes and shade.

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Conclusion

Bob and Monét blend comedy, sincerity, and cultural commentary in this sprawling episode about dreams, touching on childhood, cultural superstitions, psychology, and family lore. Through their “sibling” dynamic, they manage to be both hilariously petty and unexpectedly poignant, making this episode both entertaining and, at times, genuinely insightful—for dreamers and skeptics alike.

Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[Monet X Change]

And I'm Monet X Change. And this is simply rivalry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On today's episode, Monet reveals the Brooklyn Manifesto.

[Monet X Change]

We talk about dreams and we find

[Bob the Drag Queen]

out what made Monet say this.

[Monet X Change]

Don't be projecting your itssy craze about Columbus, Georgia on me, honey. Baby used to step your pussy up. And we find out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you want to look stupid or do you want to admit. Okay, yeah, exactly. Hey, she backs off. Oh, she's backpedaling, your honor. She's backpedaling. What? Everybody, it's your boy, Bob the Drag Queen. I'm in the studio right now. We are both filming from home. I'm with your homegirl, Monet X. Hey, Monet, what's good?

[Monet X Change]

Not at home.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet, what's good? We are here in the morning popping off for you, all excited for another exciting day of sibling rivalry.

[Monet X Change]

Now I ain't never been with a baddie. She small, so I added to the tally. Now I ain't never been with a baddie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Simone was good. You are not matching my energy, Raven.

[Monet X Change]

Simone really killed that TikTok. Honestly. It was one of her most viral tiktoks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you better ignore everything I just said. Let me go. Turn my light off. Let me go. Turn my light off.

[Monet X Change]

Turn your light off.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right. Talk about your third.

[Monet X Change]

What's up? No, I was just gushing over Raven Symone for a second. I was thinking of the day. I was like, I cannot imagine what it must be like to be born a childhood star and that always being your life. Like Raven Symone, The Olsen twins. Bitch. From the time they were months old, they have been famous and they have been world. A household name. That must be crazy. They will never know what it's like to not be famous ever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, maybe not months. I mean, I. I think the Raven Simone started around like they were babies. I mean, Raven Simone.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, she was like. She was. She was three when she started on the coffee Show. That crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think I feel like me and Raven Simone are the same age. I don't feel like I remember they were the same age. No, we are the exact same. No, she's 36. Oh, it's 36 years old. So she's a year. She's actually technically about six months older than me.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but the Olsen twins, I mean, and then they had that sister, Elizabeth Olsen, who's Wanda, and she wasn't famous as early as them, but obviously coming from her famous family. I don't know. I just was thinking about. I was just thinking about that today, like childhood stars like the Olsen twins, that is a. What life is. They just have a completely different human experience in mo. The majority of the world. That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also to them, it doesn't sound. It doesn't feel wild because it's the only thing they know. So to them, it's pretty par for the course. They're like, oh, yeah, this is what life is for everyone. Or not for everyone. But I think they're like that. They don't have anything. Anything to compare it to. It's kind of how I think whenever I see people who live in New York City or people who grew up in New York City, I'm like, this seems wild to me. I mean, granted, I lived there for a while, but, like, being a child in New York City to me sounds wild. Like, that doesn't even.

[Monet X Change]

It sounds like a lot of people, a lot of people, they can't fathom how New York City kids went to school and how, like, they grow up. They're like, that sounds crazy. And. But there are more people. Like, if you do the ratio, there are more people who understand what it is because a lot of children grew up in New York City as opposed to people who grew up famous at the time they were months old.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I'm not talking about a ratio. I'm not saying. I'm not. I'm not comparing how many famous people there are to New York City kids. I'm just talking about my experience and being a New Yorker and. And seeing people who are, like, born New Yorkers and Me thinking, wow, that seems odd to me. It's not about. It's not about.

[Monet X Change]

Why is it so. Why is it so odd? Why is it so wild?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because, I mean, the train system, there's no. There's very little grass. Like, how far you guys have to go? There's no wood. You don't have woods. There's no woods. You know, I know New Yorkers, like, really don't go to each other's houses like that. You know, growing up in the South, a big part of it is going to people's houses, hanging out in their homes, in their backyards, like, going to like, you go to all your friends houses. And I feel like in New York City you will know someone for years and never go to their house. Never go to their home.

[Monet X Change]

Growing up, I went to a lot of kids houses. Me and Kameka always at each other's houses. My friend Reiko Saroya, in high school, we would go party at my friend Nora's house a lot. I don't think that's a New York experience. I do agree with you, but the thing is, I went to Yards and stuff.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A lot of people went to everyone's house in Georgia. And I mean, not just people I knew. Well, everybody strangers, people you meet, like everything. Not everything, but like a lot of things. Just at people's houses. Like their social events, their birthday parties, their gatherings, the sleepovers. Going to people's houses is just such a big part of going over after church, going over to someone's house just for a barbecue. You go to someone every barbecue. Those are people's houses. I mean, sometimes they're in the park, but oftentimes, though, you have barbecues in people's houses.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, especially from Brooklyn. Like, it's a big part of West Indian culture too, is like having everyone has barbecues. In the summer, you go to Spring

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bar and you're in their houses. How are they barbecue in their houses

[Monet X Change]

in New York City, in the yard. A lot of people in my neighborhood, like, had houses, didn't live in apartments. Everyone has a yard. Especially in, like, Canarsie and East Flatbush. In that part of town, everyone has a family house and they have a backyard.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm talking about the Harlem kids, the Manhattan kids, the Upper west side kids. Them niggas ain't hanging out. Them niggas ain't barbecuing on their patios. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

[Monet X Change]

That is different. Kids that live in, like, Harlem, they probably in apartment buildings. They always do it in like, in. Like, in, like, the common. You've seen that in apartment buildings, how they have, like, that common area for people who don't live in New York. This is probably not terribly exciting for y', all. But if you decide to move to New York one day, this may be your experience, and we're trying to educate you on what.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, bear in mind, I have very little Brooklyn knowledge. Like, I did not. I spent very little time in Brooklyn. I was. I mean, I would go months, seven, eight months, probably a whole year without ever going to Brooklyn.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Brooklyn is a fun place. Honestly, bitch. Brooklyn slops. And Brooklyn has some of the most iconic rappers in fucking rap history. Niggas is really. That really fucking change the motherfucking game. Like Brooklyn is. Honestly, bitch, think of Brooklyn. You think of Spike Lee, you think Biggie Smalls, Lil Kim, you think Chris Rock, you think motherfucking Norah Jones, bitch. Norah Jones and Biggie Smalls grew up in the same neighborhood, bitch. Okay?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, really?

[Monet X Change]

Think about that. Nora Jones don't know why. And it was all a dream. I used to read these. Both of them bitches were from fucking Brooklyn. Brooklyn really be doing that. I'm so proud.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Really? I don't know that Norah Jones was from. Chris was from. Chris Rock was raised in Brooklyn.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Bed Stuy, Brooklyn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, that's so interesting. I did not know that.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So Brooklyn has. Brooklyn has birthed some motherfucking kings and Queens, honey. Lil Kim, like, no one was rapping like Lil Kim. Like, Lil Kim was. She was a game changer. Lil Kim fucking changed the game, bitch. Biggie Smalls changed the motherfucker. Spike Lee changed the film game.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think Brooklyn is very interesting. People from Brooklyn and people from Texas, you're kind of raised up with this. It's almost a comical level of pride in where you're from. And granted, Southerners have a little bit of this, too. But, like, people from Texas and people from Brooklyn, it's on a different level. And it's kind of like everyone who's. Everyone who's not from Texas and Brooklyn are kind of like. It's not like y' all are doing too much. Like, don't really care that much. Like, people from Brooklyn going wild. Like, y'.

[Monet X Change]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like, all right, sure go off. But, like, girl, it's just.

[Monet X Change]

That's. Cause ain't nobody doing nothing from fucking Columbus. Columbus. Columbus ain't breeding no motherfucking icons, bitch, but Brooklyn motherfucking icons, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's actually lots of icons. There's actually lots of icons from Columbus.

[Monet X Change]

Give me 10.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why does it have to be 10? First of all, it's not a scale. It's not a scale thing. There's a lot more people in Brooklyn. There are, but there's also. There's Ma Rainey, who is an absolutely. Ma Rainey's black bottom, a transformative musician in terms of blues and jazz. Wayne Brady is also from Columbus, Georgia. And also. It's also. This is also the thing. This is the only thing that y', all. Y', all, Brooklyn and Texas people do like this weird competition to see who has more people. You're proving it right now. This weird competition to see who has more iconic people or who has a bigger impact.

[Monet X Change]

Let me run down. Let me run down the whisper, y'. All, okay? Jay Z, Adam Sandler, Marisa Tomei, Lil Ken, Jerry Seinfeld, Eddie Murphy, Anne Hathaway, Barbra Streisand. Reader Hayworth bitch. Mickey Rooney, Harvey Keitel. I mean, the list just goes on, baby.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Joan Rivers.

[Monet X Change]

The late, great Joan Rivers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Proving my point that this weird obsession with, like, claiming where you're from just a fact. This weird, like, pride. It's almost like it's verging on nationalism because all you.

[Monet X Change]

All you did was you born in Brooklyn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You didn't. You didn't do anything. You were just born in Brooklyn. You didn't do anything. You literally didn't do anything.

[Monet X Change]

But, yes, I did. Yeah, I'm from Brooklyn. The school of Hard knocks, nigga. Y' all niggas in Clay Company would never know that shit. Y' all niggas got the fucking Piggly Wiggly and the Hobby Lobby and the motherfucking airport.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's.

[Monet X Change]

That's what y' all niggas have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Clayton county and Columbus, Georgia are very different place. And there's also lots of very famous people from Clayton county as well, and lots of really famous.

[Monet X Change]

Sorry, I meant. I misspoke. I meant Columbus. I meant Columbus, Georgia.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And also lots of very famous. But also, I'm telling you, it does prove my point.

[Monet X Change]

I think we can move on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That there's a weird obsession with where you're from, and you didn't do anything but just be born there.

[Monet X Change]

Bonnie Sanders is from there. Mae. Oh, my God. Mae west is from Brooklyn. Yes, Mae. Get it, May.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also, how are you. Like, how are you claiming any level of success from these people just by being born in the same place as them? It's giving that.

[Monet X Change]

I just think. I mean, it's giving that. There is a. That people From a lot of people. Clearly, a lot of people from Brooklyn are iconic people that have influenced the world and changed the world. And Columbus just says, ma Rainey's black bottom. I mean, it's Maurice black bottom. They're talking about the play Ma Rainey and who else? You said Tiger Woods. Who'd you say?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Tiger woods is not from Columbus, Georgia. Wayne Brady is from Columbus, Georgia.

[Monet X Change]

Wayne Brady. Well, Wayne Brady is fucking fierce. And Ma Rainey are fierce. Good for them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't even know anything about Ma Rainey. You literally don't know anything about. What do you mean she's fierce? You literally don't know anything. You don't know anything about Ma Rainey. You watch one movie, one time. What do you know about Ma Rainey?

[Monet X Change]

Ma Rainey was an incredible thing about her, was an incredible jazz singer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was a singer. Don't say jazz singer. I told you that right now.

[Monet X Change]

She was a singer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said that earlier. Name one of her songs. Okay, That's. Name one of her songs.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know one of her songs, but I still. Okay, first of all, I didn't need to know one of her songs to know that Ma Rainey was influential in jazz music. She was a fucking lesbian.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why you acting like. Why are you acting like you're like, oh, the iconic Maureeni. I just said.

[Monet X Change]

I just said that Ma Rainey was fierce. Listen, don't be projecting your insta craze about Columbus, Georgia on me, honey. Maybe used to step your pussy up. Maybe you used to step Columbus to step their pussy up to the levels of Brooklyn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All I'm saying is you pretended to be. You pretended to know a lot about Ma Rainey.

[Monet X Change]

Where Brooklyn at? Listen, you can try to change the subject if you want to. Just know that Brooklyn is shitting on that ass, okay? Brooklyn, Clay, Columbus County. They got shit on Brooklyn, baby. People just know that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Be caring like y'. All. Brooklyn. And it's really interesting, too. Like, for example, people from Manhattan just don't act like people from Brooklyn. And Manhattan has a lot of.

[Monet X Change]

Because they can never be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Has, like, a lot of really remarkable things coming out of it. But Manhattan's kind of like, okay, like, girl, no one care.

[Monet X Change]

Like, niggas from Harlem. Are you joking? Niggas from Harlem, which is in Manhattan. I don't know if you know that because you're from Columbus, but niggas in Harlem. Oh, bitch, they will let you know they're from Harlem, okay? Please. The fucking. Remember when the fucking. When Chicken Noodles lived in Manhattan longer Than you did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I lived in Manhattan.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, bitch, but I knew what Manhattan was before you did. How about that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And for a year.

[Monet X Change]

But you literally said that people from which you made an incorrect statement. Niggas from Harlem will let you know they're from Harlem.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, people from Harlem do not act like people from Brooklyn. Everyone knows people from Harlem do not act like people from England.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, the hell they do. Then you must not know New Yorkers. You don't know New Yorkers, bitch. I'm telling you, when niggas from the Bronx, from the bx, Harlem and Brooklyn, Queens is the only bro that they know to shut they fat ass mouth. Cause ain't nobody trying to rub Queens hard besides Nicki Minaj.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I guess you completely forgot that Staten island even exists.

[Monet X Change]

Oh yeah. I mean, who? No one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean a whole ass borough.

[Monet X Change]

We did get some sibling Islanderies. There were three of three people who are from Staten island that listen to the podcast. So we see y'. All. We're happy that you guys are listening from the island.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And no, no, talk your shit. Talk your shit like you were a second ago. Talk your shit about Staten Island.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I've said it before. Staten island is whack. Staten island is whack. I've said it before. I definitely said that and I stand by that. We know Staten island is even. They admitted they're like, I'm sorry for Staten Island. It's a horrible place. It's okay. But we hope to see Y' all on September 24th at New York City Town hall for the Sibling Rivalry tour. Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you done with your Brooklyn propaganda piece?

[Monet X Change]

The neighborhood I'll never be done until I die.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The world's so great. You moved from it like four, five years ago.

[Monet X Change]

Do or dive bed style. Oh, yeah, you got me, Bob. I move. Yeah, I move. Woo hoo hoo hoo. You got me on that one, Roberta. I move around.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Jay Z bought property in Brooklyn. Jay Z kind of was like, really? About that life. So he kind of hung out.

[Monet X Change]

Good for him. He's a kajillionaire. He better work. Someone caught Upon it out the other day. They was like, why does Monet laugh like the Count? I just realized I think my laugh has changed. I didn't used to laugh like that. I hate hearing my laugh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, stop finding joy. I don't know what you want me to.

[Monet X Change]

I know, right? I just stopped being so happy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, if you change your laugh, why don't you just change it again? You said you changed your laugh.

[Monet X Change]

It just kind of happened by itself. Do you have a. Your laugh changed. When I first met you, you did not do the. That's been over, like the past, like four years. Four or five years.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. That's true. I haven't done any deep dives into my laugh. And when I laugh, like, what? My voice has changed.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So that's probably why.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And my range of what I can access with my voice has changed a lot. But I don't know for sure that my laugh has changed. You know, I have different laughs for different things.

[Monet X Change]

Let's take a break and I'll tell you about your lie. Cause I've studied it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So. Timberland.

[Monet X Change]

And we are back. Yeah. When I brought you to the. That high pitch howling sound, that is in the past, like five years, I would say for sure. But there's nothing wrong with that. People, I think people. Just people just me. Bitch. My laugh at change. I think just. You just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not defending myself. I said I don't know. I'm not defending myself against the laughing. You're like. You're like, it's okay. I'm like. You're like. I know.

[Monet X Change]

I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just don't like my laughing. Strange.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, it definitely has. I think it's cute, though. It's a nice. It's a nice. Oh, Covid. It's a nice little laugh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you. Laughter today. I mean, when something funny comes up, I'll give a little chuckle. But I don't want to fake the laugh. I want it to be real

[Monet X Change]

now. I want it to be real. Not the reality TV trope. I want it to be real.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Say they're reality.

[Monet X Change]

Wait really quick. Huh?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

People say they're reality tv. I want it to be real.

[Monet X Change]

I don't want to be fake. I want to be real.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My favorite reality TV tropes are at the end of the day. And also, I didn't come here to make friends.

[Monet X Change]

And the third one. The fucking. The third one. I forgot it. Ginkgo Balova.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Our topic today is dreams.

[Monet X Change]

Oh. Oh. This lit a fire under my ass. So, like, people are lighting fires on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone asks on reality tv, apparently every in competitions.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Is this too dark? Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The setting. The light has, like two settings. Like, bright. Well, obviously there's a lot brighter. Which is this? That is. That is.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I don't know. I don't know lighting, but it looks fine. It may be like highlighting the bad part. Like, it may be, like, blowing out your T zone and shit. So maybe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What bad part?

[Monet X Change]

What bad?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why? My face don't have no bad parts?

[Monet X Change]

Also, what is on your ceiling?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you fucking on your ceiling yourself? Bitch, you have bad parts. My face has no bad parts. Honey.

[Monet X Change]

What are those footprints? Because y'. All. So we record live, so Bob's camera is very blurry. It looks like there are footprints on your ceiling. Like, you are fucking up there, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, they are. I think it's like, paint, I think. I'm assuming that maybe there was some sort of repair done to the ceiling in this hotel and they didn't have the exact same. The exact paint to match it, and they just kind of went over with a paint that was similar or just whatever they had in the moment. But to answer your question, no, I was not fucking with myself. Oh.

[Monet X Change]

Can I tell you this? Okay, so two days ago, I had. Okay. It was one of those dreams you have when it feels so real. Like, you're like, there's no way that this dream isn't, like, happening. And, like, in the dream, you're, like, trying to tell yourself this is not real, but your body is like, yes, it is. Like, I mean. Sorry, Your mind is like, yes, it is. I'm actually feeling this. This is actually happening. I had one of those two days ago, and I woke up and I was, like, so freaked out. And it's one of those when you wake up and you're so grateful that you, like, thank God this was a dream, because if this was real, what the fuck, my life would be over. I had one of those, and I hate those. Happen to me maybe like, twice or sometimes maybe three times a year. And I hate it every time. It gives me so much anxiety.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What was the dream?

[Monet X Change]

I had a dream that I was driving on some highway. I was. I was. I was with two friends. I don't know who the two friends were. And I was not driving my car. I was driving on a highway, and I was texting while I was driving. And when I looked up, I didn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Something.

[Monet X Change]

Something hit me. Wasn't the car, though. Like, it was like some type of object, like. Like a. Like a screwdriver. Some type of object that would be strange to hit me. And it hit me, and it caused me to drive my car off the side of the road. But. But it wasn't a cliff. It wasn't like, something really deep. But it was bad enough that it got my car in. The car turned over a few times, and only I Was okay. The other people weren't dead, but they were okay in the car. They didn't die, but they weren't okay in the car. Like, probably someone had broken something or the other. And I was just at the side of the road and I couldn't find my phone and I couldn't call for help, and I don't think anyone saw me. And in the dream, it felt like it happened like this was like four hours of my life. But obviously I don't. I mean, I don't. I didn't think it was that long. And I remember thinking to myself, like, I cannot believe I just had an accident. I cannot believe that I caused it to happen. I cannot believe that. I don't know. Let's call him. Jake is. Broke his arm and it's because of me. Like, I remember I was, like, feeling so bad.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not our manager. Not our manager.

[Monet X Change]

But I cannot believe I did this to Jake. I was like. And I was feeling so heavy in my dream. And I remember waking up and being like, oh, my God. But in that, I was like, I know this is a dream, but I was like, I feel so bad and I waken up, I was like, oh, God, I hate, I hate, I hate. Do you get pills?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I rarely dream anymore. I just don't have a lot of dreams. I don't think I've had a dream in years. And I mean years.

[Monet X Change]

No, really.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, maybe a few here and there, but like, so few that I don't really remember them. And, you know, if you don't wake up and talk about a dream right away and, like, write it down, it just starts to slowly fade from your brain and you can't remember.

[Monet X Change]

Why is that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do not know the logic behind it. I know if you don't wake up and start writing down your dream immediately, it will just fade away. You can't remember it the same used to. But I mean, obviously they say we have dreams all the time and the only ones you remember are the ones you wake up hearing. You only remember the dream that you wake up in the middle of. So they say you have like six, seven dreams a night, but you only remember the ones you wake up for. But I used to get sleep paralysis all the time, like very intense sleep paralysis.

[Monet X Change]

Back when you were in Columbus, Georgia, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, in New York City. I've had it in la. I've had sleep paralysis, like, all the time.

[Monet X Change]

So it's kind of been a sleep paralysis, but sleep paralysis, you wake up

[Bob the Drag Queen]

and you wake up and you Know you can. Like, you are awake, but you cannot move anything. Sometimes you can open your eyes, but you can't even. You can't even wiggle your nose. Like, you can't even. You can't even twiddle your fingers. And you're just laying there. And there's also this feeling like something or someone is in the room staring at you. And sometimes you can even see them out of the corner of your eye. But you can't do anything to move, and you can't do anything to access your body. You have to just lay there. And this feeling of dread comes over you, and it feels like the most intense panic you ever had in your life.

[Monet X Change]

This is the definition of sleep paralysis. Sleep paralysis. While falling asleep or waking up, your brain sends signals that relaxes muscles in your arms and legs. The result, muscle atonia helps you remain still during rapid eye movement. REM sleep, if y' all are familiar with that. With sleep paralysis, you regain awareness but can't move. Oh, that sounds horrible. During a sleep paralysis, you're aware of your surroundings but cannot move or speak. Oh, yeah. I have never experienced sleep paralysis ever in my life. Like, not even once. Not even kind of. Not even. I've never experienced sleep paralysis at all.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it basically feels like you're trapped in your body, and all you. All you can do. Imagine you wake up, but all you can do is this.

[Monet X Change]

Look. I'm looking. That's crazy. And how long does it last?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can't tell. It's so. It's very unclear. Like, it feels like it's like five minutes, but it also feels like it's like 30 seconds. Like, you really have no concept of time. For me, anyway, I have, like, no concept of time when it's happening.

[Monet X Change]

So it's saying here, it says that the brain prevents muscles in your limbs from moving to protect. Protect yourself from acting out dreams and hurting yourself. So the brain is telling your body, hey, we're about to dream. So I'm shutting down. Basically. I'm shutting down movement of you. I'm shutting down. The rain is like, bitch, I'm powering down everything so you don't start punching yourself or try to drive the car or try to do something crazy. So Duran is like, don't move. But in. Your eyes are like, bitch, I am. I'm. I'm that one. I don't want to power down. Like, I want to turn up. So your eyes are like, whoa. But your body, your brain is like, but limbs and legs. You're not going anywhere. You're staying right here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Legs, nose, mouth. The only thing you can move is your eyes. And whenever I have a sleep paralysis, my first thought is like, just try to move your. Your fingers and your toes. And so I just, like, I just. I'm like, I mean, trying to move my mic, my kill Bill

[Monet X Change]

Thurman.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like Uma Thurman. And so you just try to wiggle your toes or your feet and you're like, okay, once I do this. And then you kind of just. Then you kind of just go. And then you, like, up and you're like, oh, my. And you. You kind of have. I've had it on planes. I had it on a plane one time.

[Monet X Change]

I had like, that is too much, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I had a panic attack with sleep paralysis on a plane one time. I thought I was having a heart attack. I was like, I'm gonna. I remember waking up being like, I'm gonna die. I'm gonna die. I'm gonna die on this plane. This is crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Wow. Yeah, I've never experienced any of that. And outside of that. Well, not outside of that. Yeah, I don't experience c. Paralysis. I've never done lucid dream. I know lucid dream. A lot of people. Like, I say a lot. I've had like three friends in my life, so I guess it's not a lot, but be like, yeah, I used to, like, control myself in my dreams. Like, I used to lucid dream and I used to fly to the this and tell myself to do that. I was like, I wish I could experience that. I've never experienced lucid dreaming, but it sounds really dope. And if you don't know what lucid dreaming is, is when you're dreaming and you can tell yourself and you. You realize your brain realizes this, or you tell your. Your brain tells yourself this is a dream. And you can then control all of your actions in your dream. Like, you can choose to fly, you can choose to do whatever you want in your dream. I've never experienced that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The thing about lucid dreaming, I mean, the thing about me, lucid dreaming, for me, is that whenever I'm in a dream, I always, on some level, know it's a dream. Like, I'm never. Every time, yeah, I'm always like, this is a dream, this is a dream. But I've never been able to actually lucid dream. But I'm always like, this can't be real. There's no way this is real. Kinda like when you're in a dream and you have people who look like combinations of your other friends. Like, you look at someone, you're like, this person is both Monet and Peppermint, and they're one person. Or you'll be like, this house is my home from childhood. The apartment at 945Amsterdam Ave. And it's also Wildprazit's studios. Like, it's all these places rolled into one. This place is clearly not real. So I know I'm dreaming. Do you ever have places that. Places that are like combinations of other places where you're dreaming?

[Monet X Change]

No. Like, I feel like we have completely. Obviously we have two different brains. We have two completely different experiences with dreams. Every time I dream, obviously I've had dreams where they're a familiar place, but it's not like a jumbled up. Like, I'm like, oh, I'm back in Bonte, in Brooklyn. I mean, in St. Lucia. Or I'm here. But oftentimes when I dream, I'm in a brand new place I've never seen before. But that's impossible. Like, I mean, it's not impossible, but in my mind, dreams are just reincarnation or. Yeah, recreations. Recreations, sorry. Of things that I've had to have seen before. So if I dream something, I'm like. And in my dream mind I'm like, oh, this is new. There's no way I've escaped. It has to have been something I've seen either on a TV or a movie or in a road.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you see in a road, then your brain just creates a road from roads you've seen throughout your lifetime. And for me, I'm always like, this looks like my living room, but it's not. It's like, for me, it'll be like, I'll be in my bedroom and then when I open my bedroom door, I'm in a Walmart and I'll be like, but in my mind, I don't think it's weird. I'm just like, in the gym, I'm like, yeah, yeah, for sure. My bedroom's in a Walmart, 100%. My bedroom is just part of in the Walmart. And then I'll go shopping in the Walmart and then I'll just go back to my bedroom. Like it's normal. But on a subconscious level, I'm like, this is a dream because my bed is not in my bedroom is not in Walmart. That's how my. That's how I experience dreams.

[Monet X Change]

There's this cover of Miley Cyrus and Hannah. Miley Cyrus and Ariana Grande and Hannah Montana.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. Not Molly and Hannah.

[Monet X Change]

Miley Cyrus and Ariana Grande singing. Singing the COVID of Don't Wake Me Up. Don't Wake Me Up. I'm dreaming. What's that song?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Shit, I don't know what you're saying. Are you.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, I'm gonna find out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who's it by.

[Monet X Change]

It's a. They did a cover of it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Arna Grande, Miley Hartz.

[Monet X Change]

Don't. Don't dream it's over.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

You'll know it. Hey now, hey now Dun dun, dun dun. Hey now and it's such a. It's such a strange video because the two of them are sitting there in like. They're in like. It's not a strange video, but they're sitting in this backyard and they're both in, like, onesies, like, she's a unicorn. And I think I remember the video. And Ariana Grande is like a bear or something, and they both sound fucking great. I love Miley's just deep, rich, earth speaking voice. And I love when she sings so low. It fucking gets. It's such a beautiful tone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How did I know that Miley Cyrus was in Don't Call Me Angel?

[Monet X Change]

What is that? Is that a movie?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was the Mileage. It was a song that Miley Cyrus, London Del Rey, and Ariana Grande did for Charlie. Angels. Don't Call Me Angel. You. Anyway, that's all.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, and she, like. And Molly's, like, hitting on. On Ariana. She's like, I think you're hot and stuff. It's very cute. I don't know why I brought that. Oh, because Dreaming. Yeah, Dreaming.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it about dreams? Is a song about dreams?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Don't dream. It's over.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know. You know, Monet, back to our discussion at the beginning. You know, one of the most famous people to ever have a dream was from Atlanta.

[Monet X Change]

Who?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Dr. Martin Luther King.

[Monet X Change]

He was from Columbus, Atlanta. Are we talking about Columbus, baby? There are a lot of. There are many prolific people from Atlanta. I know that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet. This may shock you, but there are many prolific people from all around the world. This is true all around the world. There's lots of very remarkable people from

[Monet X Change]

all around the world, especially from Brooklyn. Have you ever. Okay, so you don't dream. So does that mean you don't have nightmares either?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sometimes I wake up and I feel like I had a nightmare, but I can't remember anything about. I just wake up in a panic. Like, I just wake up and I'm like, I'm panicking and I must have Had a nightmare because I'm waking up stressed out. Like that happens to me. And I don't like when, when people insinuate that part of like, I don't know, I just really hate when people insinuate that like sleep paralysis or nightmares are demons or are in some way the devil getting you. Like that's one of those times where I'm like, where I just do not have time to hear people's opinions on my sleep patterns. Like it's really. That is triggering. That's like the empath thing. By the way, one of our listeners had to stop listening to our podcast because I said empaths aren't real. Let's take a break. I'll pull it up.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, let's take a break.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Break.

[Monet X Change]

And Jake is gonna pull it up. I'm gonna read that comment. Not read them, but read what they actually said. It says I had to stop listening. I didn't see what the rest is. It's by someone named Kayleigh. Istall. I love Bob and Monae and support all the career endeavors, but the most recent episode I had to turn off just because it was starting to hurt my feelings, lol. Obviously neither of these beautiful people need to do anything to get approval from anyone. And it's me that shouldn't take it to heart. But Bob talking about people saying they're empaths and calling it fake and a red flag was just making me feel like poop. There are highly sensitive people that exist in the world that call themselves empaths. An empathy non existent is an empathy non existent in a person or overly existent in a person is something that is on the diagnostic criteria for autism. I am autistic and I'm overly empathetic. Can't watch any violence on TV without bursting into tears even. It's also just something people get really sensitive to because of abuse. Growing up, noticing the little things about how people are feeling is a way to keep yourself safe. It's their podcast and they can do whatever they want. It just made me sad.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And what I was saying was like, I'm not saying that people do not have empathy. Having empathy and being an empath are not the same thing. I think that most, I think that every, I think that everyone, most people, let me say, except people who are, who have some sort of a this, you know, disability are able to. This specific disability are able to feel empathy and have empathy. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

And I mean, I did see some tweets. Some people tweeted at us, I think. And also in the episode I remember reading some Patreon comments, and people are just saying, like, that empaths are real. And I mean, the definitions we read, they all made it seem like empaths were like Jean Grey. Empaths are just like X Men with this supernatural ability to find empathy in something that other people may not see. And a lot of people who call themselves empaths were saying, no, that's not what it is. And they. I mean, obviously we're trying to define it together on the podcast, and we couldn't really find one that resonated with people. So I would be curious to have someone who identifies as an empath and lives their life that way to talk, come talk to us about it. Because, I mean, I feel like on the podcast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, that does not speak to me, having an empath.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I'm into it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, that would be only child.

[Monet X Change]

I'll do only child with them. That'd be cool. I mean, I think it would be an interesting conversation because, yeah, they were very adamant like that. Like, what y' all are reading. Empaths are not magicians. They're not. They're not X Men. They're just regular people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just want to be clear. Monet and I did not define empath for ourself. I just want to be very clear. Monet and I did not come up with our own definition of what an empath is. We were just looking at the multitude of definitions online, and we. And we read from there.

[Monet X Change]

But empaths are very. I said it then. I said, I believe empaths are real. And a lot of people define themselves that way and navigate the world that way, and that's their experience. Experience as empaths. And, you know, but. Yeah, but I hope you. Sorry. Listen anymore. It's hurting a feeling.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think psychics are real?

[Monet X Change]

I do not believe in psychics. No. I. I mean, but some people. Some people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

About to light up the comments, too.

[Monet X Change]

Somebody, like, some people, like, really govern their lives by psychics, though. Like, they are, like, they see, they. They consult their psychic before they make any major, like, decisions. Like, they feel like their psychics have really, like, saw into the future and told about some shit. And I'm like, I mean, if it works for you. And it's. I mean, who am I to say that? Who am I to say? Like, are you dumb? Are you. Listen to a psychic. When people go to Hundreds, probably hundreds of millions of people go to churches around. Around the world every day. So who, like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I've shared my opinions about that too. You know, it's not saying that I think that. I think people are dumb. I just say that I don't believe in psychics, empaths, or religion. But it's not about me thinking, what about what? Dream interpretation. So the thing about dream interpretation is I actually took a dream interpretation workshop in college, and I remember the dream interpretation person being. It was like a credit. And the person was like, actually, what's going on with dream interpretation is it's just asking you what it means. So if Monet has a dream that she was eating a gummy worm and then it turned into a real worm, and then when she swallowed it, her stomach exploded, then someone would say, so, what do gummy worms mean to you? What do you think about when you think of gummy worms? And you'll be like, I don't think about, like, joy and being happy. And I think about my childhood. They go, okay, that's interesting. Think about happy times from your childhood. And what do you think about? What you think about eating a real worm? Like, it's absolutely nasty. It repulses me. And they'll say, okay, that's interesting. Maybe you had a situation from your childhood that scared you or that repulsure that you thought was gross. What do you think about, like, your body exploding? What do you think about that kind of stuff? Or, like, you know, maybe it's. Maybe it's about your relationship with food. Maybe you have a relationship with food that you've learned to eat in your childhood that's upsetting you today. And that was kind of what we learned. So. So. And what I. What they told me was, this is. I was probably 17 or 18. It was 18 years ago I heard this, so I might be wrong. They were saying, anyone who tells you that ever, like, one thing means the same thing for everyone. Anyone who's like, dream of fish, someone's pregnant. Dream of dream this. That means that, like, that person is a scam artist and they are not to be trusted because they do not know what they're talking about.

[Monet X Change]

Well, that's a big trope. And I highly doubt lots of white people have seen this movie, the movie Soul Food with Nia Long and Vanessa Williams and am big mama. Every time. Every time she dream of. She dreamt of fish, someone was pregnant. That's like a big trope in the movie. And on my.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's a Southern trope. That's a Southern trope in general.

[Monet X Change]

Not just Southern. It's Caribbean, too. That's a big thing in our family.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Caribbean's in the South. All the way south.

[Monet X Change]

But your mother. South America. South of the North America.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't know what I meant.

[Monet X Change]

The United States.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't know what I mean.

[Monet X Change]

My dick. But my grandmother.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. I sense as an empath, I sense that you're upset, and I'm getting. What about your grandma?

[Monet X Change]

Wow. Not about making fun of empaths. My grandmother called me over the weekend. What's today? Tuesday. My grandma called me, like, Saturday, I believe. I just got back from Canada. And she said. And she said. She said, kev, I need to talk to you. I was like, what's up, Grandma? And she was like, I dreamt. My grandma's very big on dream. My grandma loves to dream. She was like, I dreamt that you had a lotto ticket and you left it at my house and you ended up winning. And I. And I. I was calling everyone to tell you, kev, Kev, we see you eat this

[Bob the Drag Queen]

after I put one of your moves. See, if one ain't notice this.

[Monet X Change]

This duck out the cameras of myself. And then y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All. He.

[Monet X Change]

He's staring at me, Daddy. He's not. He's. He's trying to choose. So quiet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He like,

[Monet X Change]

I see you. I wish it wasn't too late. I would have called my grandmother. I. Damn. I would call her. She probably asleep now, because now I'm up. What she said. But basically something about, like, I had a winning ticket to something, and. But she had left at her house, and she was coming, and she was. She was trying to find me to tell me, kev, you had the winning ticket. You have to win tickets. And she was like, kev, I said, you know, if you are. There's something. She. She doesn't know that drag is going on right now. Like, if there's something that you. I was like, grandma, we filmed that months ago, bitch, so whatever. But anyway, my grandma's very excited to let me know that she dreamt that she. I had her winning lottery ticket for something. So something that I really want is gonna. Is gonna come. Is gonna happen for me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Does your grandma think that, like, y' all film that we film drag racing real time or something?

[Monet X Change]

I think she does.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not your grandma predicting that you win. Not you. Not grandma. Grandma Burton predicting that you win All Stars.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my grandma, girl. I was like. I was like, she's watching.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you win All Stars, will you be like, wow, My grandma was right. Oh, my God. Grandma just fucking nailed it.

[Monet X Change]

I think my grandma's brain is happening right now. So she's like, oh, my God. So I think that's why it's her brain doing that shit, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When I was a child, I used to have dreams that were very vivid and that would sometimes come true and I would wake up. So I remember when I was in 1994, I woke up in a panic during the winter or the spring.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was.

[Monet X Change]

What are you being silly? Is this a now clap thing? Because this. You just said you never dreamed. Are you like. I remember it. It was December 14th.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said, as a child, I said, I don't dream much anymore. If you rewind back. I said, I don't dream much anymore.

[Monet X Change]

Not rewind back and be redundant. It's rewind.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't say I never have dreams. As a child. What I did was I had this dream and I used to get. I used to watch these, like, Bible videos for kids and, like, in these, like, Veggie Tales. No, they were like. They were like. They were. They were human beings. It was just cartoons of Bible stories. It was just Bible stories, but done in cartoons, so they weren't, like, funny or. It was just, like the story of Jesus, but everyone's cartoons. And I remember when. When. When the angel came to tell Mary, the Virgin Mary, that she isn't that crazy, that Jesus mom and, like, the hooker he hang out with have the same name.

[Monet X Change]

I think Jesus fucked his mom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God, Monet.

[Monet X Change]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, so when. When the angel came to tell Mary that she's pregnant. You pregnant? There was this, like, circle that kind of filled like. Almost like. I meant like a ring light on the ceiling with the whole. A ring panel. Like a light panel. And then these feet would come through it. And then it was this angel. Looked like an angel you see on TV wearing the robe. And, like, this one had blonde hair. And then I saw that angel in, like, I was in my room having sleep paralysis. All I could do was look at the ceiling, and the angel came out of the ceiling. It was this blonde white guy. That's how I know angels aren't real. Why would they. Why would a blonde white angel come to me anyway? And then the angel said, don't go to Mississippi this summer, because if you do, your grandma will die. And I tried to scream, but I couldn't scream. I couldn't even move a bone in my body. And then the angel, like, basically went into the ceiling. And then I screamed, and my mom came running down from, like, the other side of the apartment complex. Came running, and. And I was like. We Can't. I was crying and I was like, we cannot go to Mississippi this summer because Grandma's going to die. And she was like, boy. And I was like, mom, no, please, please, please do not send us Mississippi this summer. Please. If you do, Grandma will die. And she's kept being like, you need to stop. You need to stop that. That's not funny. She didn't say it wasn't funny, but she kept being like, just stop that. Whatever. You were dreaming, you were dreaming. And then I went to Mississippi summer. My grandma, she did die that summer. And she was pretty young. My grandmother was 54. She had a.

[Monet X Change]

This is Julia.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Grandma Julie. No, this is Grandma Liz.

[Monet X Change]

Grandma Liz, right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My Grandma Julie passed away when I was in college. But yeah, Grandma Liz passed away. She was very young. She had a heart attack at 54.

[Monet X Change]

54 years old.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was very, very young for a heart attack.

[Monet X Change]

Mother.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is my mother. This is my mother's mother.

[Monet X Change]

And Julia is your dad's mother?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. Mary Elizabeth was Martha Caldwell's mother and Julia is Frank Pridge's mother. Yeah. But anyway, so I. So I used to have it. And I also used to predict lottery numbers quite frequently as a child. I think I did like three times. Like, three times I predicted the three digit lotteries frequently.

[Monet X Change]

Was this like in like the span of a week or like, like the course of your life?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was like three time within a couple of months.

[Monet X Change]

Was it for like big money?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was a three. I mean, big money for. Yeah, for us. I mean, it was. It was the. The three numbers you would get. Like, like, like, yeah, like $40,000. But no one ever played. There was the one time we. We were. We were like at the grocery store and I was like, mom, play four, five, two. And she was like, boy, ain't nobody playing. And then that night, four or five, two would hit.

[Monet X Change]

Damn. I know she was mad.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I did this like maybe like two or three times within. least within a year. It was happening around the time it was happening between before. I remember when it happened before I went to. Before I went to Mississippi. So you would think that with something like that I would really believe in psychics and angels and, you know, otherworldly things. But I still kind of think it was just my mind playing tricks on me in a bout of sleep paralysis and then that my grandma just coincidentally died that summer.

[Monet X Change]

Damn. So did you grow up thinking it was your fault that your grandmother died?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I didn't. That sound like something from a movie. So I'm being like, it was me, it was my fault. I was like, I didn't kill my grandma. She had a heart attack.

[Monet X Change]

You are such a. You were such a strange child. You're a strange human being.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I didn't think I killed my grandma. I'm strange?

[Monet X Change]

Yes. The angel told you don't go. And then she died. And you like. I was like, did you do it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I didn't. I did. I didn't. I was. I was eight. I don't think I killed my grandma as an eight year old.

[Monet X Change]

Damn, Roberta, you're wild. You're. Wow, Fanga.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just don't know how that makes me. Wow, that seems really logical to me. I didn't kill her because I was an eight year old

[Monet X Change]

as a kid. I would be like, oh my God, did I do that? I mean, like I would know that I didn't. But a small part of me would be like, but wait, but did I. You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't because that's not part of.

[Monet X Change]

I also went to church.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was not like that.

[Monet X Change]

I was very religious.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Church. I went to church.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know. So Pat and I went to a container store. We're coming in if y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All.

[Monet X Change]

If you're not watching it because you're not a Patreon, you know, you're not going to want to talk about. But well, actually. Well, you know. Yeah, it's past 30 minutes and I have a huge rack of shoes. This is only like half my shoes. Like all the rest of them in storage. We're getting. They're doing this huge built in thing behind me. I'm at this really desk. Let me show you this. Look at this. Bitch, you're gagging. But you're gagging.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, that is cool.

[Monet X Change]

So we're getting this whole. Built something in the back also. I'm doing the MTV Movie Awards.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y' all listening? What happens? The desk is going up and down. So it's like a standing desk to like a sitting desk.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. And then so we're going to. We're doing, we're doing. They're redoing this whole room. I'm very excited. I'm very excited. I'm acting like I bought this house. Well, I'm trying, I'm trying to buy it still, but the rental company is being. Anyway, long story.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I had a. I had a container store person visit me at my place in New York City that I hadn't buy. And it really changed my life. Like I left the closet there But I would never. I'm so grateful that I did that because that closet in my closet in the basement would really saved my life.

[Monet X Change]

What about Container Store?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yep. Cause when I moved in, it was just an empty closet. It was like there was nothing. No racks, nothing. Just a empty room in the basement.

[Monet X Change]

Rack City, bitch. Rack Rack City also, if anyone. Yeah, anyway, if anyone wants. No, it doesn't matter. So I'm gonna go with the no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you can't do that now. You can't. No, people don't like that. There are people who don't like that. So just say, bitch, make something up. It's not people.

[Monet X Change]

It's you. You're the person.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not people. You. I am. I am not the only person in the world who doesn't like when people go, nevermind. I assure you, a lot of people don't.

[Monet X Change]

Like I was gonna divulge a private thing about me that I don't wanna talk about. So I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And bitch, make something else up in the moment. You can be like, oh, I was gonna ask you what you did today. You could say anything and I would not lie.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not a liar. I'm not a liar.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We know that's not. Well, we know that's not true. We all know that's not true.

[Monet X Change]

No, nigga, we know that's not true for you. I mean. No, we know that is true. So I'm gonna go with a list of common dreams and tell me if you've ever had one of these kind of dreams. It's the most common dreams, apparently. Have you ever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you ever dreamed about. Never mind. Never mind.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. Have you ever dreamt of lying?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nevermind.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. Have you ever dreamt that. Oh, this is. No, this is Jacob. This is Jacob's question, everyone. Bob, I don't want to. Trigger warning. Trigger warning. Have you ever dreamt of your teeth falling out?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You always make fun of me in my teeth. Then you can just. What you're doing is you are intentionally still bullying me about this fucking tooth thing by being like, everyone, watch out, Everyone. No, I'm not gonna move on. I'm gonna keep defending myself and calling you out every time you do that. Because Jacob is the one that put it in here. I'm gonna call. But it's not Jacob putting in. It's you going, oh, oh, oh, oh.

[Monet X Change]

I said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said bye. Every time you do it. Every time you do it, you're getting warned out.

[Monet X Change]

I said trigger warning.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Every time you do it, you're getting called out.

[Monet X Change]

There's A trigger warning for two seconds,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

and every time you do it, you're getting called out. Do I.

[Monet X Change]

Have you ever had. You had a dream of your teeth falling out?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Next question, bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Have you ever dreamt that you cheated on your partner?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, because we don't cheat. There's no cheating.

[Monet X Change]

Got it? Have you ever dreamt you were naked in public?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I don't think so.

[Monet X Change]

Have you ever been. Have you ever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you gonna answer any of these questions? Bitch, I've never dreamt.

[Monet X Change]

No, I told y', all, I never dreamt that I was flying. Bitch, I'm too heavy to be flying, even in my dreams. I've never had a dream of my teeth falling out. I've never dreamt that I've cheated on a partner. I've never dreamt about being naked. And that's a big one. Like, even in movies, like, I see people dreaming that they're giving, like, a presentation or doing something and they just become naked. That's, like, a very big thing you see in movies and shit. I've never had that kind of dream.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, it seems like a fear of people who fear for people who have. Yeah. Fears of public speaking, which is actually like, the number one fear in the world.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I never. I never had public speaking. There was one. The first time I ever had to do public speaking. Well, the first time I can remember, it was in seventh grade. My friend Kamika Soroy and I, we were on a group for a class for our social studies teacher, Mister. Mr. Chalk. His name is Chalk. Mr. Chalk was a white guy, and he kind of spoke slow like this. And he is like, okay, Kevin, you're. I'm gonna call your mother. I'm gonna call your mother today. He's very that. And as we had to do this fucking presentation, and, you know, Kamek and I were, like, goofing around sorority.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Your mother called on you. What were you doing?

[Monet X Change]

I was always talking in class. Always. I was always constantly talking in class. I was literally all the time, like, they would.

[Commercial Narrator]

They.

[Monet X Change]

They would. They would call my house at least once a week. It was insane. So we had to do this presentation on it. Oh, we had to do, like. Like a 90s capsule project. I. I think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me.

[Monet X Change]

Let me. Let me call Kamika. She go, no, it was a 90s capsule project we had to do, and. And we fucked around the entire time, and we just never did the fucking project. Like, we never did any of the research we had to do. Like, it was like a full thing. It might be Kamika Might be sleep. It's almost one o' clock in the morning. Or maybe she's up. We have to do this project and we just did not get it done. Bob, did you ever do this in groups? Oh, Mika, are you sleeping?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm hanging here.

[Commercial Narrator]

I'm sorry.

[Monet X Change]

You had the podcast, Mika. Okay, really quick, before you fall. You. Before you fall asleep. Do you remember we had to do that project with Mr. Chalk, and it was you, me, and Saroya, and it was. What was it? A 90s capsule project? Uh huh. And then. So then you and I goofed around the entire time. The three of us never met. We never did the project. So we showed up to class on the day that the project was due, and then for the project, we just said, oh, yeah, for our project, we gonna sing Mariah Carey. What song? One Sweet Day. And then so. So Kamiko. Bust it out, girl. Kamiko fucking turned it out. And we ended up getting 100 on the project because he.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kamika sing?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Kamika can sing. She doesn't sing anymore, but Kamika can sing. I don't know. Kamika sing. Yeah. All right, so I said to run that by you. Sorry. Have a good night and have a great day at work tomorrow. You too. Good morning over there. She said good morning over there. All right, bye. We got 100 on the project and we literally phoned it in. We got 100. It was stupid anyway. Go ahead.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When I was in, I think maybe 11th grade, I was in. I was in a group with Dermica.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. You had a Dermica. Come on, Bob. I'm a. With Dermica and Kamika.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We had. I had. There were twins, Dermica and Dernica. They were twins.

[Monet X Change]

The cat twins.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The. Yeah. So this. Yeah. Only one of them was in my group. It was Shantara, me and Dermika. And I think Shantara's mom stole our cat. Her name was Chantelle. Chantelle's mom threw our cat away, and we did not sing Mariah Carey and we did not get 100, bitch. I almost failed. I almost failed Human Anatomy because of Chantelle's mom. So Chantelle's mom, if you're. If you're out here listening, bitch. I still want my cat back, honey.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. I can imagine dissecting like a little Colleen made me so. Oh, my God. I took Colleen to my friend Janina's house and I had a playdate with her. Sphinx. And Colleen is a bully. Like, this cat was being so sweet, just trying to hang out with Colleen, like Going up to Colleen and, like, trying to leave it. And Colleen would just go. And she, like, swat at 4. Bernicio. He's so sweet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like I've been telling you this for a very long time, and you don't want to hear it. When I said it, I told you that your cat was a bully. And then I feel like also, Kennedy also told you that your cat is a bully, and you were like, no.

[Monet X Change]

Can I say that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, she did. Yes, she did. Directly to your face. Because, yes, 100%. She was like, I remember this 100%. Because Colleen came back with, like a little scab on her ear. Some scab somewhere on her. And then Kennedy was like. Because your cat is, like, attacking the other animals. You're a liar.

[Monet X Change]

That did not happen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I guess we're calling. I guess we're calling people. Hold on, let me.

[Monet X Change]

I don't remember this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you want to admit you're lying before I call Kenan and you look

[Monet X Change]

stupid or you want to. Okay, I was. Do you want to look stupid or do you want to admit. No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

I have no recollection of this. That did not happen. That did not happen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, she.

[Monet X Change]

She's. She's back. That did not happen because first of all, Kenny. Kenny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kennedy.

[Monet X Change]

Kennedy goes. Hold on, hold on. I'm gonna say my part. Kennedy goes. For y' all listening. Kennedy goes on and on about how Colleen and Goose. Goose is. Was Kennedy's dog. And Goose is like this huge, like, like 80 pound dog. And Kennedy goes on and on about how Goose and Colleen are best friends. When you going to literally. Ken, this is Kennedy. When are you going to bring Colleen over again? Goose. Goose Mrs. Colleen. They want to hang out. So Bob is saying Colleen is bullying the other animals. That is a lie. Maybe Colleen doesn't like playing with. I mean, Kennedy's cat. Edith is an old cat. It's like a 10 year old cat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You gave us an anecdote of your cat bullying other people, and now you're like, my cat would never. Don't worry. We better wrap this up. Don't you worry. Don't you worry at all. Don't you worry at all. Honey. We about to get to the bottom of this, honey. Oh, I cannot wait. Oh, this is gonna taste delicious. You better hope she's.

[Monet X Change]

No one answers. No one answers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you call, you better hope she don't answer. Your call has been forwarded. Why is that so funny?

[Monet X Change]

Because Kenny's your employee. She's like, I ain't answered the phone. I'm gonna be on some bullshit at 10 o' clock at night.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I know you don't fucking answer when I call. That I can't confirm. You sure as hell don't answer when I call. That whole fucking journey of me trying to reach out to you. Oh, that was. I have a whole log, honey. I hope Kennedy called me back in the middle of this because this shit's about to be. Kennedy is off licious. Oh, yeah, the gagger. Your cat fully bullied Kennedy's animals and got her ass. And got her ass sent home.

[Monet X Change]

Your hairs will probably happen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

8.

[Monet X Change]

Kennedy would be like, please, when can we watch colleen Again? Goose. Mrs. Colleen, this is a factual statement. Two, what may have happened is Kennedy's. Kennedy also has a cat. The cat is like an old cat. Edith is like 10, 11 years old. Colleen is a kitten. Colleen is only 2 years old. So what probably happened is Colleen starts trying to play with Edith and old cats don't be fucking around. Old cats like, bitch, I've been around the block. I ain't trying to fuck with you. Maybe and Colleen and Edith maybe got into it, but Colleen was not bullying Kennedy's dog. Boose is a boose. Goose is obsessed with Colleen. They literally. Can I have videos of them playing around and them being kidding?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Didn't you just. Can you just give us a story about your cat bullying another animal?

[Monet X Change]

Okay, that's a cat. That. That's also. I will say this. I'm just saying I bought.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you see the anecdotal evidence?

[Monet X Change]

I brought Colleen over there to that house when I first moved to la, so back in, like last April, and Colleen's obviously a year younger, and the cat is a 6, 7 year old cat, their cat. Then that cat was like, chasing Colleen around, like, biting her, like, not letting Colleen, like, adjust a new space. So Colleen probably has ptsd. Colleen's like, last time I'm here, you tried to beat me up. So now it's my turn. And I treat and I teach my baby to fight. Okay? My baby don't let no cat, no other animals bully her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All I'm saying is you gave us some anecdotal evidence of your cat bullying another animal. That's all I'm saying. I have. We have documented footage on the podcast of your animal bullying me.

[Monet X Change]

We have documented footage of you wearing literal cat toys and being confused as to why she wants to play with you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So it's what I was. What I was wearing?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. What you wear? Yes, that's what I said. What you were wearing. Wear different clothes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yikes. Not problematic. Not the problematic Queen. You are really wild on one today.

[Monet X Change]

Problematique fantastique.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We'll be getting a full. Also, I'm still calling out you. Calling you out for your editing. Silencing Patti. Silence. Silencing Patty.

[Monet X Change]

Silencing anything. Patty said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What were those big. Those big jump cuts?

[Monet X Change]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When Patty was confirming that you drool.

[Monet X Change]

Didn't happen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet. There is a video on the Patreon and you're like, patty see Patty on that bullshit? Patty just lied for Bob. Why would Patty lie for me?

[Monet X Change]

Because y' all are sober and you love her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You won't do anything but admit you're wrong. You will do anything but say you're wrong.

[Monet X Change]

Anything but move your body like a snake. Oh, no, that's an R. Kelly song. Well, do not sing that. Don't get that in your life.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not when they cancel. You're out of control, Roberta.

[Monet X Change]

On that note, I think we've done it. I hope you have a good rest of your night.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bitch, I'm about to go to sleep.

[Monet X Change]

Go to sleep. What time is it? Where you at?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're an hour ahead. It's almost 11 o'. Clock.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, well, bitch, get over it. So stay your ass up and we'll see you next time on Sibling Rivalry. We should have a log offline. I think we should end each of podcasts. And we'll see you next time on Sibling Rivalry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not even entertainment's conversation.

[Monet X Change]

Why? Why? For why? Bob, I'm speaking with you. What's your problem? What's fucking bees in your bonnet, bitch?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We had a whole conversation about this. I said we should have one a while back, and you're like, I think it's lame, so I'm literally not even entertaining.

[Monet X Change]

But you wanted to entertain. That's not saying nothing. Y' all see? I see. I'm so sick and tired trying to give my all on this podcast. And here comes Bob not wanting to do so. So it's fine. Y' all hear? I mean, y' all heard it for yourselves. All right, I guess that's it. Have a good night.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bye, everyone.

[Commercial Narrator]

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