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My name is Bob the drag Queen. And I'm Monet x Change. And this is simple rivalry. On this week's episode, we discuss Nymphia's phone drama. During the meet and greet, we wrap
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up the series, the one with every rude girl.
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And we find out what made Bob say this.
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Utterly joyless and dismissive. And we found out what made Monet say this.
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Y' all can be mad, but I'm living my brat summer. When you wake up next to him in the middle of the night I told you so. That's a good song.
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It is a very good song. I think it's her number one song.
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I believe it's her newest single. Isn't that crazy her?
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It's not. It's not. It's newer than something like. It's not like it is not like a post album single or something, is it?
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Cuz the album came out in 2022.
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It's on the album. I'm pretty sure it's on the album. It's not. It's a post.
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It's not. This is her newest single. This. This came out in 24. The album is from two years ago.
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Oh, super.
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Congratulations.
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Post albums. Her post post album single.
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Well, you know, like that's the tea about like music. People don't realize a lot of these be out here in these streets like Espresso by Sabrina Carpenter being like, you know, that's, that's that the guess is when you were single, this girl has sex. Six albums. I Was like, she has six albums, but now she's, like, finally, like, blowing up, getting traction.
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Interesting. That's crazy.
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I know. Chapel Rowan. Like, I mean, everyone knows her story. Literally, videos of her a year ago, sitting on a street corner playing piano, singing to like.
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I was at that show. I was at that show. It was in the park, not a street corner. I was in the. In that red outfit. I was at that show.
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Really?
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Were you really?
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So you saw her back then? It was in 2021.
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Yeah, it was. It was at a party called Hot Donna. Hot Donna was supposed to be, like a bar they're opening here, but they ended up not being able to raise the money they wanted. But it was a fundraiser for a bar, a lesbian called H. Donna Work Also.
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Bob, should we. Should she. I mean, let me not add another thing to. The answer is no.
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Whatever you're saying, we should not. Whatever you're arguing, we should not.
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I saw a video of you at Charlotte Pride yesterday, honey. I said she was. You was feeling a. I don't know what you did, but people were sending me videos of you performing. You look so good. And I said she was feeling. She was.
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Yo.
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I was out here in this human unit flinging her around. Then she takes a bottle of water and douses herself of water. I said, Ms. Sting is feeling her pussmas.
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Well, it was raining. I was outside and it was raining. I was like, well, I'm already wet. And I've had that human hair unit for a very long time. I've had it. That specific one. I've had it since the Temecula episode of We're Here on Season two.
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Yes, Season two.
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Yeah. So I've had that wig for a long time.
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I'm not. By the way, I'm not saying anything. I'm just saying you were just a. Look it. Just seeing you in, like, this, like, full with the glang with the human hair, just flinging around something about.
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I just don't like it.
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I don't know what it is.
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Something about it drives me crazy. It's a human unit. Like, it's like. Like it's better than my other wigs. Like, is this human? No one said that.
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Okay, how would you like to refer to this wig?
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Maybe in the blonde wig? Why does this camera. My teeth look so yellow. What the fuck is this?
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You know, it's probably because there's. Or the camera does automatic white balancing and we have orange behind us in the.
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In the. Like the bedroom.
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And the thing behind you, it's white. Balancing the image to be. To go off of the whole space, and then your teeth are. But we can. We can fix it in post. It is going to be fine. It doesn't look bad.
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It's making this look like it's not white. Doesn't this look like cream?
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It does look creamy. It looks creamy in real life.
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It is white.
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I do not like this. Well, you know what, dude? I do like. Bob is RuPaul's Drag Race. And I think, is this going to be our final one? Is this the penultimate or is it the ultimate?
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This? I mean, it depends on how you behave, okay?
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Why is it on how I behave? Nigga, what about how you behave?
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I'm just saying I know how I'm gonna behave today, so it depends on how you're gonna behave today.
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Well, I think we got up to. We finished Mistress, and we have three. Yeah, we have no. And then we have a whole other
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episode on season 15.
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Right. So I think I. In my honest guesstimation, I think this is our penultimate episode. But I could be wrong. We shall see.
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Well, I guess you've decided how you're gonna be behaving today, haven't you?
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Well, last episode, we really got some doo doo.
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I mean, I haven't really. No one's. No one's been tweeting me, so maybe they're just mad at you. So London Noir, all the way from New Mother Slipping Jersey, honey. She's from East Orange in J.
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East Orange? That's where Arcia is from? Well, no, I say it's from Newark, but she, like, spent time in East Orange. Have you. Have you spent a lot of time in New Jersey? No. Right. You have not spent.
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I mean, I've spent some time. I wouldn't say I've spent a lot of time in New Jersey, no. But I've certainly spent time in New Jersey. Yeah.
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Do you think if I lived in New Jersey, our friendship, our bond would be as strong as it is today? If I lived in New Jersey?
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I mean, if we. Yeah, I think so. I mean, we just spent a lot of time together at work, and. We spent a lot of time together at work, so.
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We all spend a lot of time at your home, to be honest. But we never. We never spent time at my house. Cause Bob refused to come to Brooklyn.
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No, I was never invited to Brooklyn. The one time I came to Brooklyn, I had to come on a surprise when I. When I couldn't stay at the airport, I was like, can I please? And you were like. You were like, I Don't think this is gonna work out anyways.
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Luxx. London Noir. I have had the privilege of working with. With working with Luxx a lot post her time on Drag Race. I had never met her before. Cause her time as a queen in New York was after I had been done. Been out of there. But Luxx is such, such. Such a pleasure and a gem to work with. She's so smart, she's funny, she's professional. And I think it's a through line, Bob and I said about a lot of queens in this thing. Baby, when you meet a sister who is professional, to me, that is like the top. Like, she's. She's. She's on time. On time for the show, on time for the meet and greet. She has all her shit. She's not running around stealing your shit and fucking your shit up. I love Luxx. I love, love, love, love, love Luxx. No, London.
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Yeah. I never work with her, but I've met her like, once or twice. I gave her some Beaumirs once. And I also met her one, one time at. At a solid pink disco.
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Did you all dance together?
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No, I was actually coming to get her to be like, hey, come to the back. And she's like, no, I'm good out here. I said, oh,
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she's in full drag, right?
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No, she wasn't in drag. She wasn't a drag, though. She was like, I'm good out here. I said, oh, all right, we better work. She's about them. Them Rihanna fan meet and greet moments. I'm more about that. The AR Levine meet and greet moment.
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Honey, I don't. Can you explain that? I don't know. I don't know.
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I thought you were a big Rihanna fan. This is crazy. Fake fan Rihanna. Famously. Like, she gets really close people during the mean Grease. It's honestly kind of crazy. Like, she'd be like, all up on people, like, open mouth kissing her fans.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Interesting.
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I mean, we can't. We're never. We're never gonna make it to her. But I want to talk about it right now so badly.
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What?
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Nymphia wins a meet and greet drama. We're not gonna make it there. She's the winner of the most recent season. We're not gonna make it there on this episode, Bob.
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You don't know. Well, to quote you, I see how
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you're gonna behave today, and you're acting funky.
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We can either rush through. Rush through it, this episode to try to finish it. We're not gonna rush. We're gonna give These girls their just due.
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I know, I just wanna talk about it now because it's like so fresh on my mind. Yeah, let's talk about it. Well, the thing about it is I was seeing that a lot of people were basically whenever I see like a meet and greet that went well. Like what made the fans feel good about their meet and greet experience. It usually is. Like I met Monet X Change. She was so nice. She talked to every single fan for 10 minutes of the meet and greet. She gave me her firstborn child, she venmoed me 50 bucks. She took her shoe off, handed it to me, gave me her earrings, cut out a chunk of her wig and gave it to me. It was honestly the best meet experience I've ever had. And then I met like, I don't know, then I met Nymphia when and she like said hi and took a picture and like that was it.
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Well, I think the thing about this one, people saying like, oh, she's in a meeting green, she's on her phone. I'm like, first of all, she said this was a like a 75 minute mean greet. So I mean I think that maybe again, I don't know what, has she even said anything about it? Has she, has she, has she. And did she cooperate what they said? Well, she was like, oh, sorry. Or like did she say there was
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a reason a few people and I was on, I was doing a business call, I was responding to a business, I believe, to be fair, I don't use my phone mean greets no matter how long they last.
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Same. But maybe that's something like we didn't know. Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe RuPaul was. Maybe because RuPaul is hosting the Tonight show this week. Maybe RuPaul was going to like, she's waiting for RuPaul to give her the details of what time she come to the show or something. I don't know. Oh, she said, I just wanted to say my initial response when I reposted the video was not to apologize is because I lived the whole hour and 30 minutes of this meet and greet and what you guys See is a 7 second video. I understand it is very rude, but that was not the whole meet and greet. And I know I was not actively rude to anyone. So no, I am not rude. Releasing an official apology to everyone, just to the person who was in that video and to the few people who met me on my phone, which I would still raise in my head and give two kisses, which I would still. I was still raising my Head and giving two kisses to look them in the eye. I personally thought the video was funny. And brat. I made a joke on being and May and a joke on being on Grindr, but I was replying to work messages. Y' all can be mad, but I'm living my brat summer work.
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That is the official response from the desk of the queen.
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The desk of the current reigning queen Work from the desk of the current reigning.
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Honey. I live.
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Yeah, but also. So when Pacific rivalry did. When we did civil rivalry, where were we? Dragcon uk. Yeah, there was. Bob brings up this story all the time. When we were.
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I'm not bringing up anything, but you.
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Well, okay. Longtime listeners of the podcast have heard you bring the story up, like, seven times now. So it's not trying to act all coy and like, you tried to use.
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Trying to drag it before. That's why I'm trying to drag it.
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We're at dragcon, and Bob and I, we have been there all day. That was towards the end of the day. And Patty, like, someone was. There was a. We can get lunch and a lunch order in, like, now or dinner, whatever it was. I was like, yeah, so we. People at the. We agree. And Patty was like, tapping on the shoulder. I'm like, yeah, can you get me.
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Hey, they're not tapping on the shoulder. You're adding some. You're adding. You're adding lives.
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Okay? He got. He got my attention some way. He got my attention some way. I don't remember exactly how.
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You made it sound like. Pay attention. And you was like, that was a real coy. That's how Monet be doing her words. Monet be slipping in little half truths to make the. Patty and Monet were, I would say, legit, no exaggeration, 10 meters from each other.
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Okay, nigga, first of all. Okay, pause really quick. Now all of a sudden, you. You. Jessica was talking about Drag Car uk. You using meters and shit.
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I want the fans there to understand what it was. You are so 10 meters away. And the fans were trying to have a meet and greet. I'm talking to the fans and. Patrick.
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Okay, Bob, this is how.
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Hey, baby, make sure. Dang. By the way. Okay, not pause for a second.
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Not.
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Hey, guys, give me one second. Let me just order this meal. This is like, maybe like two or three fans worth.
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No. Okay, this is how Bob. Okay, this is how Bobby over exaggerating shit. 10 meters is 30ft. The booths at Dragcon are not even 10 meters wide.
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Patchy wasn't. He wasn't in the Booth. Patty was.
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Yes, he was.
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He was. No, I remember this. Patrick was.
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I remember too.
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He was outside of the booth. He was like.
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He was at the corner.
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He was working the line at the
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corner of the booth. He wasn't 30, but he was not 30ft away. Bob. 30ft is far.
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That is.
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That's like. That would be like someone else's booth across the way. Are you joking? He was such a bitch. I hate you so much. Anyway, so that's the. Have you been dragged from angry people say, oh, Bob didn't smile or something. He didn't hug me.
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No, but, but, but in per. Like in public. Like if someone meets me, like on the street or at the airport.
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So I have the Reddit thread pulled up and the title of the Reddit thread is Best and worst Experiences with R Girls during Meet and Greets. And this is from user. It's a rayup. I'll just share it so we can see it. Right here. Let me pull it up. Screen. You know, I hate to say they say Bob was utterly toyless and dismissive. But then somebody else says, not an official meet and greet, but when Bob was in my city, we ran into her at a strip club and she saw me in my ex and said, you guys are stripper, right? Strippers. Right. And Verge deceded to shove a dollar into both of our pants. Oh, Jesus.
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Wait, what? That doesn't sound true.
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Not utterly.
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Were they strippers? I. I guess so.
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Not joyless. Utterly joyless and dismissive.
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Did I say at a meet and greet?
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No, just at a strip club.
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Utterly jawless and dismissive. Was that a meet and greet?
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Oh, yeah, that was a. Yeah, it was at a meet and greet. Yeah, that was a separate person, but we have. Person one said utterly joyous and dismissive. Person two said the strip club.
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Don't get me started on the. On Monet. But I won't. I. I don't have my phone in here, so I can drag. Anyways.
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Anyway, So. Yeah, yeah, so that's that on Lux. Let's go.
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Monet. Want to switch the subject real quick? When it came to her, her.
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No one has ever said, I'm utterly joyless and dismissive. That was you.
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We gotta pause for one second. Now. Now Monet is trying to drag it. Hold on, let me grab my phone.
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Since we being cute, we need to get some of these girls. You are so.
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Since Monet. Oh, my God. Okay, so. No, no, let me. Honey, let me work on this. Does Monet want to be so darned adorable?
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Okay, so in the same thread someone go I met Monet Xchange. She was so nice and so beautiful. Thank you.
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Oh my God. I had the exact same experience with sibling rivalry. Bob was really friendly, talking about my drag and sassing me a bit. Whereas Monet just looks so bored of everything. Felt like I was bothering her. Hey, a true girl. Bob was amazing and seems genuinely nice and she. She was conversing a lot with fans and true with Monet. She wasn't that interested in meeting the fans. No shade. Hehe. While I was waiting my turn, I was watching both of them with amazement because it was my first DragCon and noticed that Monet was over it with most fans. It was also awkward to see but Bob is really the queen for the people. You want me to keep going?
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No, no bot is true. Bob is truly utterly disgusting and dismissive is what is what they had said.
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Bob and Monet were in the same booth. Bob was really friendly. Meanwhile Monet was awkward and looked like look at me dead in the eyes. It was uncomfortable. Lol.
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Can I tell you?
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Can I tell you?
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I know these are bobbleheads. This is a quote. And I was. I'm going to send this to Jacob right now. I'm at Monet x Change and she was. This is From Queen V. 2 days ago I met Monet x Change and she was a dream. I rushed out to meet her after work after working full eight hours, making dinner for my family, getting my kids ready for bed and trying to refresh my demure office makeup. I was feeling so self conscious because I couldn't paint my face. But she was so reassuring and empowering. And let me tell you, I know that it was.
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I noted that Jacob was a little biased in his journalistic integrity.
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So I had to find the real Jacob is biased. I want to say this. This is how rotten the bobbleheads are. This is a quote from our. From our YouTube from 325 bobbleheads. We will straight up know Bob is wrong and still pick him. You know how I know I'm one of them? Mwaha. Devil emoji that is. That describes the bobbleheads to a T. Shady.
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You sound like a Trump supporter. This is how they would talk.
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You know who love Kamala.
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Kamala will destroy America. She will. She will destroy America. And if you vote for her. And I am much more good looking by the way. Much more. I'm better looking. I'm a better looking person than Kamala who recently turned black.
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Can I tell you the amount of people calling her like these pundits on. Especially Fox Fox News. Calling her Kamala on purpose is so annoying.
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Last one. I met both. I met Bob and Layla when I toured the uk. Bob was so lovely. We had chat and stuff, tried to chat with Layla, but she wasn't. But she wasn't bothered about me because I was a girl and she would rather kiss random boys. Let's go to Anetra. Anetra is the duck walking Las Vegas martial arts runner up of season 15 of RuPaul's Drag Race. She was certainly a fan favorite and received a ton of love.
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Oh, wow. She's Filipino, Puerto Rican, Japanese, and German. What? So many different cultures in there.
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Hola. Konnichiwa, and guten tag, honey.
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Look at you.
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Okay, come on.
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Multicultural.
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I don't know that konichiwa is actually Japanese. I think it is, though, Jacob. Konnichiwa. Yeah, I think it is. Yeah. I said hello in. In Tagalog, Spanish, Japanese, and
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you didn't say good. You didn't say hello in German. In German. In German is Halo.
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Mind your business.
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You said good afternoon.
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The way I feel now, that's how the fans must feel that you're being greets.
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Anyway, I've never met Anetra, but, like, like, like, agree, like, she was a huge fan favorite. Like, people were obsessed with Anisha after the show. Anisha was someone who could have had, like, a really crazy world win after the show, but I think she may have gotten sick or, like, something happened that.
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Mental health. She took a break for her mental health.
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Her mental health. But. But I've heard she also had some. Some physical ailments as well, because she was supposed to be on that South American tour. I just did. But.
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Well, I heard the mental stuff was after she went to a Monet exchange meet and greet and felt belittled.
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Anyway, and then she was supposed to be on that tour, but I think she had, like, she had some ailments and she had, like, she canceled, like, the day. The day that I lost my bags was the day that she, like, they found out she couldn't do a show either. So she has, like, a lot of stuff going on.
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What day did they announce you on the tour? I'm trying to see if there's a correlation.
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I'm just trying to see. She had that Walk that fucking Duck song. That was everything. When she snapped that fucking board.
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You say back in the day when Ms. Cracker used to crack boards at her drag shows.
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I remember this.
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Yeah, yeah. One of Cracker's first talents at a drag pageant she did out in New Jersey, actually. Ironically, not that ironic. We're talking about New Jersey, but she was, like, breaking, boarding. Cracker used to. Cracker's a black belt martial artist, and she used to break boards as part of her drag act.
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Yeah. So, yeah. But again, I've never met her in much of this. I don't have much to say except what I saw on tv.
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I don't know much about Anetra, but I just know that she was really. The fans were really featuring her, and honestly, I thought she was fun. I enjoyed her a lot, too. Let's go on to the winner of season 15, RuPaul's Drag Race. Her name is Sasha Colby. Sasha Colby is all the way from Hawaii. Hawaii. Hawaii. She is from. I think she's from Waimaola. I might be Mama Nola. I might be pronouncing that wrong. Waimola. And, oh, she's part Irish. Did you know that?
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I did not know she was Irish.
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Tapa Damarin into Ya. Sasha Colby.
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I used to see Sasha Kobe here and there after I moved to la before she was on the show. I would see her out and about in WeHo, but we never. Sasha Kay is not a girl I really hung out with or, like, spent a lot of time with, but she. You would hear about it all the time, and everyone was always, like, in drag circles because she was a Miss Consequence of winner, and she just known to be a very dynamic person and a fierce performer. Like, you're always hearing rumblings of Sasha Colby somewhere, anywhere.
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I mean, I perform with Sasha kobe at.
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She's 39. Wow.
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I performed with Sasha Kobe at Scarlet in Honolulu a few times, which is ironic because she actually wasn't living there. She was just back in town the. The time or two that I. That I performed at. Maybe one of the times she was there. And I thought. I thought she, like, lived there, because I was like, oh, you're from. Everyone knows you're from Hawaii. And I used to. I used to really be obsessed with her performance videos. Her. Her talent numbers from her days as a pageant queen.
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G O D D D G O
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D D E S S. Wait, Spell goddess without singing it, because I put it wrong the other day trying to. Not on my YouTube video.
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G O D D E S S G. But the song sounds. It's supposed to be G O D D D E s, but it's G O D D E S S that pictures.
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I got it.
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Such a good song.
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G O D D E S, S. I got it.
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Oh. I'm looking at her runways. Yes. Okay. My favorite one was when I think about Sasha Kobe, runways on Drag Race, I don't know why. This is the one that, like, is in my brain. I'm like, this Runway. Because it wasn't. But her puffer, please look. Do you know which one? If I just say, do you know what the color is in it?
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No.
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The yellow and black one, it just sticks out in my head. I don't know why.
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Where are you seeing these looks?
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No, it's at the bottom of her wiki page.
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The looks are at the bottom of the page?
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Yeah, girl.
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I never scrolled down that far. Oh, my God. I have never scrolled down this far before. That's crazy.
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Yeah, her. We all black. Also her. All the. Her tie dye look was so cool.
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Bitch, we've done this whole motherfucking series, and I'm just now finding out this is.
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Are you serious? The whole time?
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The whole time? You know, I don't. I guess I don't think much about her. I think more about her performances than I do her. Than I do her looks. Although she has had some great looks that I remember. I mean, I remember her interest look, and I also remember her first Runway was a look that she won best gown in Miss Continental, I believe.
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Wait, which one?
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I think her first Runway on Drag Race, who is. She was a gown. Was a gown that she wore when she won Miss Continental.
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Oh, wow. Good for her.
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I just remember that story specifically. Also, her.
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Her Barbarella look in the. On the. For the Blame it on the edit music video was so fierce. I love that look.
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Yeah. Looks really, really good.
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And she's also just a sexy performer. When Sasha Kobe performs, she's just sexy. She just oozes sex appeal.
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She was a very slated front runner. I don't think anyone was particularly shocked when Sasha Colby snatched the crowd. I. I famously said I thought the girls were really competing for second place, and they knew it. They all were like, well, who's coming? They were, like, fighting about who's. They would often literally fight about who was second best, which I thought was kind of tacky, but, you know, what can you do when. When. When. When the. When the winner's so clear, you know? Mm. Let's hope.
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Let's go see this season 16 16.
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RuPaul's Drag Race.
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LaCour jete.
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Our pork chop queen of this season is Hershey Lecourg Jete. Who. Sister of Cornbread. Cornbread the snack Jete, who Is the daughter of Calypso Jete, who's one of the winners of Legendary the Jatai's one.
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Wait, what house was it?
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She was. I mean, you know a lot. I think that. I think don't now. Don't know. Don't. None of this just Hayes, come eat me up. But I'm pretty sure this just Hayes are a Kiki house and Calypso belongs to another house as well.
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Interesting. But. No, but what house won that season?
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You're talking about Calypso. Can you look at which one she was?
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There was the house of Balmain, which has season one, I believe. Yeah, yeah. Yes. And one. So they were. They. They won. Okay. Work. Yeah, Her.
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She.
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She has two kids. Like she does. That was part of her story on the show. Is like, bitch. Like, I fully have like, children at home that I like, attend to and like, take care of. And I guess I just. I just don't meet many. I don't know any queens who have children. I don't know any other single one. I mean, I know there's some like, what's her name? The tall white lady.
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Tempest Du Jour.
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Tempest Du Jour has children and I think King Tyra. Oh, Tyra does have a kid. And also Miss Fame and her. Nicole and her husband. They just said that they're expecting a kid.
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Who the hell is Nicole and her husband?
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Not Nicole. Ms. Fame and her husband.
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Oh, Nicole. Paige Rook has child work. So there's a couple of. There's a couple of rude girls with chillings. I really like the hair that she wears on her ears on her interest look. I didn't love the interest look so much, but I really like the hair that she wore on her interest look. I just want to reiterate that I really enjoy that hair, people.
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Oh, my God. In her. God. In her. In the. In her ball look. People were upset that you and I liked her second look. Do you remember this? They were mad.
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Which. Which one?
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The one where she, like, looked like Mother Nature.
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The like little chocolate look. Little leather.
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No to go to. Over. Not the. On black one. The one next to that.
B
This like, ruffle look. The major look.
A
Look Significant mother look. Mother Nature, bitch.
B
Oh, yeah, I still like the look. That's a great look.
A
I liked it too, but people were like, come on, Bob and Monet, really? Are you fucking kidding me? They were mad at us for liking that girl. They were upset.
B
I still like it and what y' all gonna do about it? And I also liked her lip sync a lot of Perusa smackdown look. I really thought that look was so good. I would wear that for sure as like a performance piece.
A
I remember her talent show being strange cause she was like. She was like caught up in the woods.
B
Now her outfit for the. For the talent show was cool Criminal crazy criminal. Criminal.
A
Criminal. But yeah, but yeah but Hershey she went home first and I haven't really heard much of her since her time on Wait this further was discussing she really that her partner and are. Her and her partner are the adoptive parents of sis of her sister in law's children.
B
Oh yeah. You didn't know? Yeah. She said on the show that they're.
A
They're her.
B
They're her. Her children are technically her niece and niece and nephew I believe.
A
Got it, got it, got it, got it, got it.
B
That doesn't. That she's not their parent still. You know what I mean?
A
Yeah, I just. I just know. I. I didn't know like how. Yeah, I didn't know that there was a story guy. Hey, it's Ryan Reynolds here for Mint Mobile. Now I was looking for fun ways to tell you that Mint's offer of unlimited Premium Wireless for $15 a month is back. So I thought it would be fun if we made $15 bills, but it turns out that's very illegal, so there goes my big idea for the commercial. Give it a try@mintmobile.com Switch upfront payment of $45 for three months, $90 for six months or $180 for a 12 month plan required $15 per month equivalent to taxes and fees. Extra initial plan term only greater than 50 gigabytes. Me slow when network is busy.
B
See terms. Let's go on to a queen.
A
Who?
B
Oh, I need. I have a statement I need to read.
A
From whom?
B
Well, first of all, we need. We need to redact something. Mirage has over 6 million streams on her song.
A
Yeah, Jacob. Trying to take down Mirage's accolades.
B
This seems a little unnecessary. Over 6 million. Over 6 million streams.
A
That's right.
B
It just seems unnecessary. You don't have to be treated like this at work. If someone in the workplace is mistreating you, you can follow a HR reporter.
A
No, I. I dislike Mirage and I was trying to take down her diminished Rackley love pink.
B
No, Mirage is one of those queens who's. Who's. Her look works for her. And I feel like I wouldn't like it on any other. Like something about the way the Mirage wears the stuff she's wearing. I just love it. Maybe I'm a Mirage APOLOGIST. That could be what it is. But I just think that she's so stunning in the way that she does her drags.
A
Her fucking finale eleganza look. I'm obsessed with that. The hair, the outfit, the whole thing was. She looked amazing to me. I love that she's. She does. She plays with these. With these daygo colors. They're like the neon green, yellow, pink, and orange. I love that. That's part of her aesthetic and her brand. She just looks. She looks otherworldly to me in her. In her finale. Love it. So, so, so, so, so, so, so much.
B
Yeah, Mirage is quite stunning, and her song was a huge hit for a reason. It is such a. It is such a Bob. Do you know any lyrics from it?
A
I don't.
B
You think I'm a. Oh, you're not that wrong. Because all men are dogs.
A
Yeah.
B
And she is. She's indigenous. She is Apache work. She's Mexican and Native American.
A
Work, work, work. She was a Vegas queen. And I've Mirage. I remember Mirage 1.
B
She.
A
Her morphine and Tsunami opened for Love Ball. And she was pleasure. She is. I mean, as you can see on tv, this is Tall girl. She has. Her limbs are very long and just a sweet, sweet.
B
What was open for Love Ball?
A
It was. They did a group. Well, they all did like a single with a group thing. It was her Morphine and Tsunami. And also Nymphia did a second at her own. So Number N. You know, she had a controversial. She went home controversially because people were really like the audience. Like, we all were feeling mirage, but she had this lip sync that she did not learn the words to. Like, I guess it was. Was it. Was it Gypsies, trans and thieves, I
B
think Dark lady by Dark Lady. We all agree. We all agree that she deserved to go home. We're all just mad that she did. Like, none of us Mirage stands were like, nah, that was wrong. We were like, damn you, you, you low key. He let us down on that one, but we want to use that.
A
Yeah. And I try to remember the challenge. I don't remember thinking she deserves to be the bottom, though. That's why I'm like, whatever, but you
B
don't need the lyrics of gypsy shrimps.
A
And these gypsy shrimps.
B
Dark lady.
A
I mean, Dark lady play black magic with the. The candle one by one.
B
And they're all lyric. But you took them from different places, but they didn't. They don't go in that order, though.
A
They don't.
B
What's. What's the Dark lady laughed and danced and lit the candles one by one. She played her gypsy music to her.
A
Yeah. Work. Yeah, yeah. Mars Priest. Moving on to Amanda Tori meeting. Oh, Amanda Tori meeting another New York City queen, right?
B
Yes. She is from la. Is she?
A
Is she?
B
I'm sure.
A
Yeah, she is from la, but she was on the shows in New York City Queen clean.
B
But I thought she was repping LA on the show. She was like, I lived in la.
A
Really? Why did I think she was in New York City, though?
B
Well, I think she lives there now.
A
Interesting.
B
Maybe she moved there during the pandemic. She was, like, repping LA on the show. I remember she was like, I'm.
A
I.
B
Anyway. Or maybe I could be wrong, though. I don't know. Was a very controversial queen. Now, this was the crux. Her and Plane Jane were really going
A
at it all season.
B
Well, not all season for three episodes, but.
A
But it feels like it was all season because there was so much of it. Like, they felt like they were always going out. And to be fair, playing would just come at this often. Amanda was sitting there minding her business here. Complain Jane, and, like, injecting some. And some opinion about her that no one asked for. So Loki Plane was just. Wouldn't leave this alone. This. Could not breathe. Yeah.
B
She was Los Angeles.
A
I feel like.
B
Yeah, it was not. That's like, I.
A
What?
B
She's from Ohio. Everyone's from Ohio. This supports my theory. Everyone's from Ohio. I'm telling you. Everyone's from Ohio. Money. Everyone you know is from Ohio.
A
Where are you from? Ohio?
B
No, but my. I have a lot of family there. You have anything from Ohio?
A
No, none. Not a single person.
B
Plot twist. You'll be shocked. Bet a dollar. Bet a dollar.
A
Amanda on the show, she's not known for having very good makeup. Her makeup. Her aesthetic was rough, but since the show, her makeup has drastically.
B
They were dragging it. They were dragging on the show. I mean, her makeup was not great, but they were really dragging it. It got to the point where, like, the producers, the director, RuPaul, everyone's letting this girl have it on her look. I was like, jesus Christ, guys.
A
I mean, it was probably pretty awful in person. Like, remember that purple thing she painted? She painted herself purple for something. And I was like, why? What the is that?
B
It was her reveal. There is a. There is a picture of her at the Met gala, and she looks plasma. Like, I thought this was plasma. I'm not convinced plasma didn't paint her.
A
Oh, wait, she has the red hair on.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah, it does look like plasma. I can see that. That nose contour is sickening, though.
B
I was like, oh, my God. Plasma. Geez Louise. But no.
A
Oh, my God. Her Mother Goose look was crazy. Her talent show look was crazy. Oh my God. The call me mother, father eleganza look.
B
Oh my God.
A
The ones with. The one with the bird. Wait, she was only three episodes. How does she have this many looks?
B
I don't know.
A
No, but, but even from the puss, from the bird thing with the blue hairs with up to the top. That's one. I think it was one of the ones where they had like three runways go down in the first episode. Right, right. Something like that. Yeah. Interesting. But. Yeah, but since their time on the show, she's really improved her makeup. She's always been a good performer, but I think she's really changed a lot of. Oh. Selena gave her the official golden boot award of season 15 team. Do you agree?
B
Wait, she actually got. I thought Selena was last one. Who, who, who got the first gold of. It was Maddie. Right.
A
Maddie Morphosis.
B
And then Selena. And was it.
A
Oh, so the thing was there wasn't. They didn't do an official Golden Boot.
B
Yeah. Yeah. Selena got the last official golden boot. Selena just kept the tradition going. Yeah.
A
Which if I'm looking at this cast, I think I agree. Mandatory would be the golden Boot of the season for sure. Well, your girl's coming up next. She was. You like some of her. I was often like, what is everyone talking about?
B
I'm not saying I liked her. I just said I liked her. I thought she was a good queen. You were adding your own narrative. I was obsessed with her. I loved her. I never. I don't think, I think I was pretty harsh on her runways, actually. Right across the board. Yes.
A
It was Jay. Jay was obsessed with her at the beginning. I was like, what is wrong with you?
B
You will rewrite history. You're one of those girls. Let's move on to one of Monet's history rewrites. Geneva Carr, who is one of the only queens on RuPaul's Drag Race, as far as I know, anyway, to come from Brownsville, Tex. Even though I know several mini Brownsville, Texas queens.
A
Yeah. Geneva Carr.
B
How many Brownsville, Texas queens do you know? Mo, you know Sam and I know Jewelipus.
A
Uh huh. Luscious Massacre.
B
Who?
A
Luscious Massacre.
B
Luscious Massacre. And Gloria.
A
Yeah, Gloria's from there as well.
B
It's a very, it's a, it's a border town, so it's on the it's between. Not between us. It's on the Texas side of the Mexico border. And these queens do drink drag. They be doing drag drags. Big, high, huge hair, bright colors drag.
A
I love the way. I want to see what luscious makeup would look on me. I want to do that one of these days or paint me pair. So one of the ones. One of her looks that I enjoyed, but a lot of people didn't because I think she landed. She landed in the bottom for this was her call me mother, father, eleganza look. I thought the one. Because she. She. I think that was the design challenge. She made that bear and I thought it was pretty fierce. But people did not like, like it. I liked it a lot.
B
No, I did not like this calling motherfather look. I did not like it. No, I did not like it. I rarely liked her looks. There were just so many misses. I mean, honestly, as soon as she walked into the interest look and I was like, oh, Jesus Christ.
A
And just was terrible not putting a weight belt in the middle of. In your midsection.
B
I mean, just the. The. There are so many just like, lops as far as her looks went for me. But that being said, I did think that Geneva Carr was a very good performer, and I wish that she would have done her sign leg hair like she never did it on the show.
A
Oh, my God, the fucking leg hair. Forgot about that. The leg hair.
B
Really long time to do it, though. She said it takes a long time to do. I'm like the bitch. Do it at the hotel and come in.
A
I was about to say, girl, you're just. You. You don't know when you're gonna be on TV again. Just fucking wake up early one day and fucking do it in the hotel and come to the set with your leg hair done.
B
The fact that she never did her leg hair, if you. I don't know, she would. She would sculpt her leg hair. Basically imagine baby hairs, but all over your leg. Like the whole knee down is baby hairs. She would do these, and she kind of went viral on TikTok for these, but she never did. She didn't have time to do it on the show.
A
I guess that's just crazy. Have you ever seen. I haven't seen it on TikTok.
B
Do what? I saw it back in the day. I don't think she does it anymore, to be honest. And I think it was something she did, like a few. I don't know how often she did this, how often she did them, but anyway. And she Did. And she did have a challenge when she went home, which is nice. You know, that's more than a lot of girls can say. So good for you, Geneva Carr.
A
Let's go on to the queen. Who is protecting. What is it? Queer art.
B
Queer art.
A
Oh, I didn't know last name was deville. That's good. That's funny.
B
Why is that funny? I don't get it.
A
Like Cruella Deville. My Megami deville.
B
But why?
A
Okay, not funny, but it's cute.
B
Oh, okay. I was like, am I missing a play on words or something?
A
Why do you hate Megami?
B
I like my gummy, actually.
A
Her and her promo look. I realized how much I actually. I really love this. I love these. Do you think she. I've never seen a thigh high construction Tim boot heel before. That's fucking dope. She looks great.
B
They might be custom. I mean, Megami is a cosplayer, so I don't doubt that she is someone who would take. I mean, she obviously often takes a lot of consideration into her drag.
A
Yeah.
B
Specifically with costuming. And I think that was actually pretty consistent across the board. She's someone who. I liked her looks a lot. People kept acting like I was weird. I was like, I like them. I liked her interest looks. I like, I liked her little angel look.
A
Do you like your interest look?
B
I did like her and just look. Yeah, I thought it was cute.
A
Cute.
B
It was very gaga for me.
A
Yeah. I mean, the essence of Gaga. I see like, yeah, Judas. Like. I see the, the inspiration.
B
She's probably a little monster.
A
Well, for sure. I mean, her, her, her significant mother look was definitely. It was. It was a Gaga reference. One like down.
B
They're always doing Gaga references. Wasn't they? Were they?
A
No, they weren't.
B
Oh, no. Okay. Oh, no. Her mother was Gaga. Got it. I get it. Okay.
A
Yeah.
B
Unlike one. She a real New Yorker.
A
You got me there. Yeah.
B
Ate that ass up. She didn't do. She didn't do a stint in St Lucia and then a stint in LA, then a stint in Atlanta and then a stint in Japan, then a stint in Toronto. You got me, Bob. So do you want to admit that is the New York queen, the Brooklyn queen?
A
She. Oh, she's not from Brooklyn. She's from Staten Island.
B
She was born in Brooklyn, raised in Staten island, moved back to Brooklyn.
A
Says who?
B
Her.
A
Where?
B
She's born in Sunset Park, Brooklyn. Then she moved to Staten Island. Do you watch the show Tamar? And then she moved back to Brooklyn.
A
I don't remember that. Megami is I met her. She. She. She's again, because it's not only New York Queens, but, you know, she had this moment on the show that was. She did her talent show. She had this sign with the perfect. The protect queer art, which people made fun of her. But she took that and she started putting in her numbers. And she didn't let this. This be this defining thing that would make. She, like, turned around and made money on it and put in her numbers and let it be part of her thing. And I think. I think that's very. I think that's how you handle that. Right? And so I think I love that about her. And I think that is a New York sensibility. But again, not saying only New York Queens do that. That's not what I'm saying. But I feel like that is part of it. Well, yeah, Someone like Q. And again, I think hers is a little different, but I think he's a New York Wayne. She's not. But you say.
B
I thought you were saying all new. I was saying, what New York queen didn't do this?
A
I was thinking, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Which we'll get to Q. I don't want to talk about Q. We'll get to Q a little bit later. But I met Megami. She came to me and Sapphira's recording of at. At Lincoln center. And again, she was so witty and so fun and she was really fun to hanging out with. Really fun to hang out with for a little bit.
B
Yeah, I think Megami is really fun. I think if we would have been from the same class of drag queens. I think she started a little bit after. Even though she's like, right between our ages, actually.
A
Our ages.
B
She's 35. Five.
A
Oh. Oh, that's. She older than me. Between.
B
Oh, I said between our ages. So let's talk about. Let's talk about how between works.
A
Right? Between. How about you get between my dick skin? How about that? Get there. Anyways.
B
Well, you're half circumcised.
A
What?
B
You don't say you're half circumcised. You're like, I'm halfway circumcised.
A
I didn't say I'm half.
B
You said I'm like part. Whenever the question comes, you are circumcised. You're like, oh, finally.
A
Kind.
B
Like, we did the left half the frem. Like, what the.
A
Does this mean someone.
B
The pictures.
A
Someone. Someone here who might also be circumcised. Is Tsunami Muse.
B
Let me finish, mami. I'm not. I have not brought up. She. I was. I think we. We would have been on the same. We would, like, hung out a lot. She's like someone who would have been a good time gal at the diner, cutting up kikiing, but then taking the long trip back to Staten Island. And we'd have been, like, gagging.
A
We'd have been like.
B
We'd been like, girl, you know she lives in Staten island, right?
A
For some reason, looking at you, you look like you're Wade and Kim Possible. Like, this is what I see. Like, you, like, checking the mainframe. You're like, yeah. Because I think that if Megami was to.
B
I'm on a. I'm on a different computer than I normally use. As you all can see. I'm in a different setting than you've ever seen me. This is. This is the bedroom.
A
This is where all the love happens.
B
This is where the tragic happens. But, yeah, anyway, let's go on to Tsunami Muse, who truly, and I mean truly gagged me when she told me that she used to come watch me at XS Lounge. And I was like, girl, how old are you? I thought Tsunami was in her, like, early.
A
Girl, I gagged when I found out this bitch was 35. I was like, that's crazy. I thought she was so young.
B
She is de colon panel, which.
A
That's good. That's some good jeans, honey. She look good.
B
Do what?
A
So that's that. So that's some good jeans.
B
Tsunami is also kind of pretty hot on his rag. That's not part of the conversation.
A
But Tsunami's so great. Every time I hang with. Every time we hang out, she is such a Kiki. Obsessed with Tsunami. Muse. Obsessed with her.
B
Yeah, Tsunami seems fun. I've only met Tsunami in person, like, twice, I want to say. And honestly, she's fun every time. She's a good time gal. She seems pretty fun. You know, she has some moments in the show that I was like, wow, this is such fashion. A few moments are like, oh, girl, it's a little too fashion. Not enough drag for me, you know?
A
Well, the fucking mother goose egg one was. I fucking love that. I thought it was so cool.
B
I like it. It's very camp. Very, very camp.
A
Very cool. The entrance here, she wore the entrance here. I was like, I want that hair. And the guy who designed it, Mo and BK made me one. It's what I wore on your episode of Slumber Party. That, like, black curly one. This is the same gu. Her hair. It was great.
B
Oh, wonderful.
A
Her. Oh, her Every her share look was also beautiful. Call me mother, father, Eleganza, the one she made. So now we got some great looks on the show.
B
This was when me and Monet went back and forth over and over about whether or not her Lalapuru lip sync smackdown was a reveal where Monet gaslit me into believing it was revealed.
A
And she has never confirmed the denial.
B
Yes, she did. She said it's not. Yes, Monet, you will. You will read.
A
I don't remember a big. I said I don't the remember.
B
You be remembering you only. You only don't remember.
A
I supposed it. And then Kandy Muse chimed in on the post. But I don't remember Tsunami saying yes or no. I know. Kandy museum.
B
You don't remember my victory. That's so crazy. You remember yours and you don't remember mine. And then you rewrite them too. That's. That's so interesting. What the things.
A
Anyways, I still stand by. That is crazy to not have her. That being your finale. Your. Your lalaparua look to me, that is crazy. That that's not a reveal. That is nuts to me. I don't get it. Grand finale eleganza. Look. This is like from the Runway. This is like, from, like fresh off the fucking Runway by some fierce designer. And I guess I still don't know if I hate this look or I love this. What do you think about this look? I mean, I acknowledge this is really cool. And maybe I'm just not cool enough to understand how. Why it is cool.
B
Which. That was me. Which one?
A
Her grand finale eleganza.
B
Look, I don't. I don't. I don't understand the silhouette. I don't understand what's going on happening is her ar. Like, why does she have one arm? She has one leg. I would not wear this.
A
Your. Your. Your brain is on fire.
B
I would not wear this look.
A
I know, but this is like a big designer. Like, she got it like, from, like off the Runway.
B
Okay. Okay. That being said, I wouldn't wear it. Let's move on to. So once Mirage left, I had to quickly shift to a new favorite queen. And I chose. I still stand by. This queen is so great. Still stand by it. She has now she has a weird New York accent. She is from Texas. Plasma has a very strange theater New York accent. But that is a theater kid in her. She came in eighth place. I do believe she went home a little too early. And I just thought she was just such great TV and so talented. I thought she was really great. On this season of Drag Race,
A
I met this girl and she. She was so. I'm kidding. I love plasma on the show.
B
Love pink.
A
Love plasma. She did have some really, really, really God awful looks. Like the fucking Tweedledum Tweedledee one was insane that she wrote.
B
Oh, the Tweedledum Tweedledee was criminal prison time. Actual prison time needs to be applied to that one jail.
A
But then she had some really great ones, right? Like, her Anne Boleyn look was dope. Her fucking can I can buy myself flowers with the parasol was stunning. Magnificent.
B
Her pussycat look look was great.
A
What's the gap? What's the gap? What's the gap?
B
Where is that the angel look? She's not the Hermes. I don't know who. What angel. What is that, Mercury? Who is that, Jacob?
A
That's Hermes. Hermes with the, with, with. With the wings.
B
Hermes. I mean, I liked her talent show look. I. I liked her interest look.
A
Talent show look was great. Yeah. She. Listen, she had way better looks than me in my first season.
B
Okay.
A
She had way better looks than I had on my first season. So I. And then meeting her was the icing on the cake. I was like, you know what? This. She was so fucking funny and witty and again, good vibes. Meeting her was. Made me like, real like, okay, I really. I can really fuck with this girl. Like, she's someone I would hang out with.
B
She was part of that crazy night in San Francisco I had with her. J. Jax, Dawn.
A
What happened? Why was it crazy? What happened?
B
It was just. We were. We were at. We were back in the manager's office at. It's a Patreon excuse. It was a long. It was a whole thing. It involved a sex party. There was. There was drugs. It was crazy.
A
I would pay to be. Just to see your reaction and be like, Monique, this is crazy. In a room, people just doing a whole bunch of drugs.
B
I didn't make it to the room. It's Patreon exclusive. Go back and watch the Patreon exclusion. When me and Don did the p. Another piss off washery. Not press first impressions. Silver Washery. Jesus Christ. And it. But it was a wild night and. But it was very fun. And I really like plasma. I think she's. I think she's talented. And I would like to see her back on a season of All Stars. For sure.
A
For sure. I didn't realize Sal Manila was part of her Dragon family work.
B
Oh, yeah, they're. They're always online together. Let's move on to Maya Iman Le Page, honey.
A
At Queen of flips.
B
Queen of flips. And she truly is the queen of this girl. Flips and flips and flips and spins and dips.
A
And she's 35, too.
B
Yes.
A
She was like. I thought she was young, young, young. I thought she. If you told me I was in her early 20s, I'll believe it for sure.
B
Well, I don't really know is. Because there's all these old videos of her doing ballroom from, like, years and years ago.
A
Got it. Oh, she's Haitian. Oh, my God. So many. So many West Indians. Shout out to the West Indians. West Indians are really doing big this year, honey.
B
Haiti is in West India. West. The West Indies. I didn't know that. I didn't realize that. It is. So the Dominican is in the West Indies, too.
A
Yeah. So is Puerto Rico.
B
Puerto Ricans are considered West Indian.
A
Yeah. Technically, the. They are. They're Caribbean. I didn't know that.
B
I never heard of what Puerto Rican. Call themselves West Indian.
A
Because they. I don't know why, but I mean, technically they are like, if you look at the. The Caribbean countries, they're part of. They're. They're. They're part of the Caribbean.
B
Got it. I don't know. I don't know that the entire Caribbean was West Indian.
A
Mm.
B
The West Indies, you know, her looks were not great on this season of Drag Race, but she also had, like, a whole thing with a designer where, like, her designer, like, flopped on her at the very last second or something.
A
Yeah.
B
Did you hear about this?
A
Vaguely. It sounds familiar. I don't remember 100%, but I liked
B
her dancing queens look in the 90s hip hop thing. Everyone thought it was flop. I genuinely, genuinely love that look. I thought her body looked great. I thought the outfit was great. I loved that look.
A
You're well for that one.
B
I really did. I thought it was so good. She famously did that horrible Cher impersonation,
A
but the gag was the dragcon look. Remember this? Because we come to find out that was an AI. Like, if you Google Dragcon 80s whatever. Someone, like, Google the thing. And that exact thing came up.
B
Like she said on the show, she said, I googled dragcon 1980s AI. And this is the first nip up. She said it while she's walking around where she's like, this is the first thing that popped up.
A
I don't remember that. I don't know that happened. I gagged at that.
B
Yeah.
A
Work.
B
Then they ended up doing an AI look on Canada versus the World, which,
A
I mean, I'm not Opposed to that. I mean, look, look, this is where like culture is moving. This is. AI is. Well, it has been a part of our culture for a while, but now it's. It seems to be. Tangible is the wrong word. But AI seems to be something that we are forced to work with a little bit more. So AI is only going to get bigger. So like incorporating it. Incorporating it into drag race challenges and using it to. Although there's a lot of controversy, right? People like that person that dragged Jacob that time. I can't believe use AI to Google images. How dare you. So there's a lot of controversy dragged as well. They did drag him. Bitch, you did not read the comment. This person was upset.
B
I mean, drag one comment is one
A
comment constitute a dragon. Dragging one person can drag you.
B
Like I'll be dragging you comment constitute a dragon.
A
Yes, I can. I have dragged you many times. Just in one comment, nigga.
B
Oh, interesting. I just haven't seen any of them, I guess.
A
Well, I haven't.
B
Was that. Was that one of them? Was that. Was that. Was that one?
A
Anyways, so. Yeah, so I'm not. Do you. Do you. Do you think it's weird that she used that to get her look? I don't think so.
B
I mean, no. Apparently there's an environmental impact to AI, but also, either she hired someone to make the look or she made the look herself. If she hires someone. You know, honestly, the truth is I don't have a terribly strong opinion on it. That's the real tea. I haven't done enough research on it and I don't have a ton of opinion about it, if I'm being fully honest with you.
A
Her unaired fandango look, that's wild. But again, if she'd have worn this on the show, it's impressive looking. But girl, you just look like a ball of paper of newspaper.
B
Well, she would also do this thing where she would make her neck look really short. She did a lot like she did not want to. She did not want to elongate her neck. She was allergic to the concept of yellow elongating her neck.
A
Oh my Iman La page.
B
She has a really fun presence on Tick Tock. Her and you know who's always on Tick Tock is. Which we didn't discuss when I was at her. What's that girl's name? Baby Doll. Baby Doll. Baby Doll. She is on Tick Tock Live like Malaysia. Yeah, Malay Malaysia on Tick tock live like 10 hours a day, if not more.
A
I mean, this is how you like Mon get like, good, big followings on Tik Tok things. So good for her. She's like trying to get her coins.
B
I'm. I'm not knocking. I'm just saying it's really impressive. Let's move on to Dawn.
A
I think that the girl, she. She should just be up until dawn just on Tik Tok Live. It's crazy. Speaking of, let's go into Dawn.
B
I do not like this. You.
A
You. You're not. You're not going to respect me for that. For that dozer. That was a great transition.
B
It was. It was good. It was good. You've had. You've had worse and you had better.
A
So can.
B
Can you congratulately, I would say solely, solidly, do what you said.
A
Solidly or solidly, man.
B
Solidly. It's solidly like a. Out of the best you've ever done being a 10, the worst you've done being a 1, I would give this a 7. You know, I've said I do not think this is a great drag name. This seems hard, but obviously. But she's found a way to get. She found a way to get googled with the name Dawn. But like this name dawn, you'll never beat the soap.
A
She's 5 6. I didn't realize she was short. She comes off taller. Like, she has a taller presence to the screen.
B
I think she comes off shorter. And then she was online, she was like, I'm not five three. I'm five six.
A
I don't remember that. I thought, to me, she looks tall.
B
To me, she looks tall on.
A
To me she looks tall. Like, when I see her on tv, I don't think this is. This is a short person. Also, I saw her when I was in New York. I saw her on Grindr and I almost wrote to her, but I chickened out.
B
What were you gonna write, bitch?
A
What's up? What's good?
B
What that mouth do? Dawn. Dawn is from North Carolina. Carolina. She just like plasma does not have. She does not seem Southern. Dawn does not seem like a Southerner to me.
A
I know Raleigh, I know North Carolina is technically the south, but a lot of people I know from North Carolina, they don't give. Well, that's not true. The letters to be here is pretty country bumpkin, but a lot of the other people I know, like from North Carolina, they don't give me sound like,
B
well, delighted is actually from South Carolina.
A
I was literally just about to say South Carolina, I feel is country, but North Carolina, I don't get country. Like, none of the people I know from North Carolina get me that vibe.
B
Yeah, she. She just doesn't seem like a Southerner. And every time, every time I remember she's from Raleigh, I'm like, oh my gosh, she's from Raleigh. That's crazy.
A
I love her makeup. A lot of the outfits, she. She's a really good seamstress. A lot of. A lot of the things she, she wore on the show were things that she sewed, and I thought they all looked really good. She knows her body very well.
B
She was just always bested by someone else. Like, she was always so close, but I know, I agree there was always someone a little bit better, which is how I think she ended up leaving the show with no challenge wins.
A
Yeah. Like, I believe she made her entrance look. Oh my God. The look she wore to the Met gala looks so cool and so for all y' all be like, yeah, cuz the skinny girls don't need to wear corsets. Look, dawn is a skinny girl, but this is corseted down and it just ends up looking really skinny girl.
B
A lot of skinny. I know a lot of skinny girls do wear courses. Violet wears corsets. Naomi wears courses.
A
Yeah.
B
Who said skinny girls don't wear corsets?
A
This is, this has been. I've on the podcast and we talked about different wash reads and stuff like that. Some people think, oh, because they're skinny. Sometimes you see skinny girls that don't wear corsets. I think you named the big ones who are popular. They're popular. So there's a reason why, like, we, we like that. But there are a lot of skinny girls that be like, tell me something skinny at me. I don't need to wear a corset. I think it was great.
B
You should commission a piece from Dawn.
A
I don't know. Is dawn in the business of making costumes for other girls?
B
You gotta ask? Apparently dawn is that girl when it comes to smash. Apparently she's gonna let us have it.
A
Bitch, I'm like me.
B
She doesn't let me have it.
A
Who is. Who's her main? Do you know?
B
You remember Jacob? Yeah, I guess she's a Zelda main, which I have seen Zelda give Monet the business in the past.
A
Bitch, I've seen everyone. Bitch, I give you the business. So last time we were at Bob's house, we're playing Bob. He started. He started out the game, right, y'.
B
All.
A
He had a video be like, uh huh. This is proof that I'm about to think Monet up, bitch. When I tell you we were like eight rounds in, Bob had not won one. I had 38 wins. I mean, I had 38 kills to his 15. I said, oh, Bob, about. Where's that video?
B
That's true.
A
Oh, I have the screenshot because I knew this day would come. I will be sending it to Jacob right now to put in the video.
B
I wonder if you doctor those. Are you going to acknowledge that Jacob beat you on. On the live stream now then this
A
is not about me and Jacob. This is about you and me right now.
B
Why would you never admit this?
A
Why don't you send this to Jacob right now?
B
Jacob, we know the truth. You and me know the truth, Jacob.
A
We don't.
B
We don't need money to say it.
A
Whatever. Preparing.
B
We know the truth. And, and, and this. This won't end up in there either.
A
I promise you this point better than Will. What you going to do? You going to be J.
B
You going to beat J up? You going to fight him?
A
Yeah, I sure will.
B
You.
A
You going to go to the Bronx and fight? Jay doesn't live in the Bronx.
B
Did he move?
A
He's never lived in the Bronx.
B
He in Westchester.
A
White Plains.
B
White Plains?
A
Yeah. Why. Why the Plains? White. Why. Why are going to be Black Plains?
B
But yeah, apparently she's going to. She's going to.
A
She.
B
Apparently she's. She's. I guess again, what's the name is that girl? And I will. I will never. I won't. I won't fix my mouth sideways and say shit about Kahmora Hall. That girl will whoop you up, down and make you embarrass the shit out of you. That was. That was crazy.
A
If I knew that she was negative Smash, I would have been so nice to her. When we debauchery, I would not said a single thing sideways.
B
I got my ass beat. I was like this. You know how little kid. You know when you was a little kid, you play against someone who just kept whooping your ass and you felt embarrassed. It was that.
A
It was for sure, for sure, for sure.
B
Okay, Jacob, look at your passport.
A
He's so young. Wait, what? Wait, what? What passport? What?
B
Jacob's old passport. You know they punch a hole through your old passport so you can't use it anymore. How old are you in this passport picture, Jacob?
A
18.
B
Jesus Christ. Like a little baby. I think so what year?
A
It says what year it's from.
B
Oh, yeah, it says it was issued in 2011.
A
Okay. Yeah, I was 18.
B
Okay, let's go on to morphine. D love. Sorry Morphine. Love Dion.
A
Love this girl. Love Morphine. I think she's really, really, really dope, by the way.
B
Shout out to Morphine to healing and to getting better. I know that they were just in this car crash, this car accident. And just shout out to Morphine. Everyone send some good vibes to Morphine. Yeah, Morphine is great.
A
She's dope. I worked with her a few times now as well. Twice now. We did something. I met her. Did she perform in WeHo Pride? I think, yeah, she perform we Hill Pride and we hung out and then I hung out with her again at Love Ball. Right. And Morphine is great. She's that girl. She's so fun. We're both sisters who have dabbled in the dark arts of around with chasers.
B
And she's a gamer girly.
A
Is she?
B
Yeah, she's a Fortnite girly.
A
Oh, God, Fortnite.
B
We play Fortnite together. She's so fun. She's really funny. Her, me and Tsunami all played Fortnite together.
A
Yeah, I. I'm obsessed with. I'm obsessed with Morphine. She's really, really, really, really dope. And yeah, she's also a really great performer. Was she the lip sync assassin?
B
I guess she was the. She was the winner of the La Perusa.
A
Right. But Maya had just been in the bottom more times or something like that.
B
Maya got eliminated by. By. By magic.
A
Oh, no. I'm saying in the season, though, Maya went all way further than Megami did.
B
Yeah. But at the La Perusa, Megami sent home. So Morphine won the. She won the lifting. La Parisa.
A
Got it.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah. So Morphine is serious obsessed. Love her.
B
She truly is. She has some really great looks this season. She. She is a lip syncer down. Like, she is, in my opinion, the best one from the season. The best from. From a couple of seasons. She is really a sickening lip synchronizer thinker. Like, she's good. And it's not just tricks for her. It is timing, it is pacing, it is storytelling. She's very, very good.
A
Oh, my gosh. She's from Pixie's hometown. Do you think also that that mug is stamp in real life? This bitch looks just like these fucking pictures. It's kind of insane. That's. That. That's a Vivian shit.
B
And I think her, even though her face isn't. Isn't super specific, it is somehow very Morphine. Like it. It is. If I saw this one, I'd be like, oh, that looks like Morphine's face. If that makes any sense.
A
Yeah.
B
Even though it's nothing crazy like tricks or anything, I'm like, oh, that's very morphine. This eye.
A
Yeah, for sure.
B
Which again, this drag name. This is crazy.
A
You know, she seems to be fine with it.
B
You're right. She is from Emporia, Kansas. This is southern.
A
See, I don't feel like I, I'm y'.
B
All.
A
I know know it is. I know it is, but I never realized or going to Kansas, Kansas doesn't feel southern to me.
B
Kansas is. Kansas has a southern vibe to it. Put it that way. Kansas is where the Midwest meets the South. Low key.
A
Yeah. Interesting. Q, you know, got very popular with by her black. Her black scent on the show. And what I was, what I was saying earlier is like, you know, Megami found this thing that people were like clowning her dog of her online and she's flipped it and it's common and she like does numbers with about it. And like with her thing, I was like, I, I, in my humble opinion, I, I feel like Q should lean into us, you know, talking about the black scent thing, like doing more black scents, not doing more black scent, but like specifically the this, my real hair. Like, she could have made that a thing to kind of be like, ha ha, I know I said this thing.
B
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
A
It would have been funny.
B
She would have came back and someone was like, like, is that your. Is this the way she goes? Well, funny you should mention it. Well, of course. Yes, dear. This is the hair that grew directly from someone with characters might. You know, that would be some way to. Without being like, yo, bitch. Uh huh girl.
A
But, but yeah, so I mean, I haven't seen much of Q since the show again, but your first year, you're like doing all the clubs and tours and she's probably just doing her own this and that and the other. But I will say this bitch's runways of the show were fucking sickening. She had some runners.
B
She might be avoiding us. Monet. We were kind of the main people who really dragging the. This is my real here.
A
That was kind of us.
B
So she's probably avoiding us, quite frankly.
A
Her talent show was really fierce. I thought, I think, I think I wanted it to win. I thought it was one of the best.
B
You had a great run on the show. There was only a few of her looks. I was like, oh, not this. Only a few. I didn't like the robot look. I hated that robot look. But for the most part, I'm gonna say she was inequivocally. The best seamstress and the best designer on this season. I still cannot believe that she made that welcome to the dollhouse look on the show. I cannot believe that she made that look on the show. That is crazy that she made that in the workroom on goddamn Judy Garland.
A
Love that. That's. That's the one that Tsunami and I. I was like. When I commented, I was like, I want it. Because I think that Judy Garner look, it was a recreation of Judy's looks. It's not Hugh's idea, but it was just such. So well done. Her share look was really good. The only one that I did not like. Everyone thought it was fierce. The. The I can buy flowers one. I thought that was wild.
B
I didn't like it either.
A
I thought that was crazy.
B
Flowers. Um, let's move on to the.
A
The.
B
The undisputed villain of season 16 of RuPaul's Drag Race plan. Ye. John Ye. All the way from Boston, Massachusetts.
A
I like her. I'm such a Plane Jane fan. Love, love, love Plane J. I thought she was so funny in the show. I thought Plane Jane added a great dynamic to the show. It made it fun. Now, I. Like I said earlier, I think sometimes she was. She was a little wild and coming for Amanda when Amanda was literally minding her business in plain. Just injecting herself and just, like, reading this girl. But I think that Plane was super polished. I thought she was fucking funny on the show. And I am a big fan of hers. Even being her in real life, she was. She was great to work with, and she's professional, which is. Which is my favorite thing about a queen.
B
What is that Met Gala look? What is that? What am I even looking at?
A
All right, just. Just to be clear, these are not.
B
Matt Gala went to the Met. Not the Met Gala. They went to the Met. I understand. That being said. What the hell is this look?
A
She's.
B
Is she supposed to be someone?
A
I think she's supposed to be someone. Someone with a dog. Like. I don't know.
B
Her look was the best of the season.
A
The cheetah, the. The. The leopard print thing.
B
So good. What a stunning look. She looked amazing.
A
Yeah, that was good.
B
She had, like, weird, like, scalloped hairline.
A
Wait, what?
B
Her hairline is, like, scalloped? Oh.
A
Oh, yeah. I didn't notice that before, actually.
B
This look is absolutely just great. A great look. And she has some really good moments in the show. She was unflappable. Like, it was hard to knock her down because she was just good Enough at everything, you know what I mean? She was just good enough at practically everything, so you really couldn't come for her, you know what I mean?
A
Yeah, I agree. She really ate that. She fucking ate that shit. Up. Up. Didn't she work?
B
Let's move on to Philadelphia's very own Sapphira Crystal. Sapphira Crystal, who's currently on the Crystal Ball tour. If you want to go see her. She's actually from Texas, but she. But she lives in Philly right now. If you want to go see Sapphire on the Crystal Ball tour, I'm sure you'll enjoy seeing her. She's fantastic. She is one of those queens who. I remember when she came to New York City and took the scene by storm. Truly ate the girlies up in the competition scene.
A
Did she?
B
Yes, yes, she did. She had just won like Ms. Gay us of a new York or something. And every time she came, she would eat the girlies up. She was one of the girls who could not be beat her. Maddox, Madison Logan.
A
Hardcore work. I don't remember any of this, but I think Sapphira is a great fucking drag queen. Obviously we've worked together a lot. We did a whole show. Lincoln center, which we, her, myself and James Blanchko wrote together for almost a year. And Sa is an opera singing sister. She's saying. She's saying. O mio Babbino caught on the show. And Sapphira also had some really strong looks. I think first episode we were all a little scared about that reveal look with the titties and it was kind of crazy. But she really redeemed herself. And also, I didn't know she was such a great seamstress. A fucking call me mother father look. That looks like something out of the Wiz. That like catsuit with the skirt was so fucking cool. And the big lotus flower one. She did or I'm seeing a lot of. I don't even know. It's a fucking lotus. Whatever. Whatever flower it is. And yeah, she has some really, really strong looks on the show. She did. She. She did a great job this season.
B
She did. I really enjoyed her James Brown Snatch Game. I think she should have won that Snatch Game, quite frankly.
A
Who won?
B
I don't remember. But I remember thinking she should have won that I remember. Didn't plane win maybe?
A
I can't remember. I genuinely can't remember. Same. And she does love the color blue. She loves the color blue, don't.
B
She does wear blue a lot.
A
Lot. A lot of her looks were reveals.
B
That's because she's a pageant girl. It's always got to be. It's always got to be something. Always something extra.
A
Yeah. Her reveal look, the shirt was a reveal. The fan. Remember when the fan just popped up from the side of her outfit?
B
Yeah.
A
She was her, her finale look, which her finale. Maybe I'm just like, I don't know what's wrong with me, but I did not see that was a reveal coming. I was like, she could have do this final look in a gown. That's insane. Did you see it coming?
B
I think that you're, I think you have reveal blindness. Like you can't tell when something is or isn't a reveal. They're just so backwards for you. I mean, this gown does not look like a reveal, but it's not terribly shocking that it is one. I'll put it that way. Let's go on to the. See, we made it in only 11 minutes. Over. Let's go on to the current reigning Queen of RuPaul's Drag Race. The the girl who's so booked and bless, she cannot put her phone down during a 1 hour and 30 minute meet and greet to meet her fans.
A
We.
B
Let's talk about all the way from Taipei City and Taiwan, it is Nymphia. Wind. One win one Wind.
A
I, I, I. Nymphia. Nymphia. I mean, from the gate, her. Look at this fucking promo look. She looks like a winner. Don't you think so?
B
Yeah, she looks really good. Yeah, I agree. She looks absolutely, absolutely stunning.
A
And then that fucking entrance look with the yellow thing and how the whole of her like walking in like that shuffle and then she looks her. I'm gonna say she had the best looks the whole season.
B
Yeah, you might be right. I did not love that interest look. Actually. I like the look. I just didn't like the banana on the crotch.
A
The only thing I didn't like was
B
the banana on the crotch. I just didn't think it was funny. But everything else about her she has had. I'm gonna go through her looks for the season. My goodness. Banger after banger after banger after. I mean, the only thing that was a flop was Jane Goodall.
A
Yeah.
B
Everything else. And I mean every. Let me see. I'm looking real closely.
A
Good, bitch.
B
Yeah. They're all, Every single look is a success. That matte look is crazy.
A
Let me see. Oh, wow. Worker is fierce. And also a lot of looks. She also, she's a very great, really, really, really fair seamstress. She was posting a lot of the BTs of her creating a lot of these especially. I. I remember some, like, watching them and like watching Instagram and gagging. The red. The faster Pussycat wig one, that was insane how she made that on her Insta. And another one, I was a lot of these. Oh, my God, the tie. Look. I died for this tie.
B
Look.
A
And it was also this thing. People were like, oh, she just pretended like she can. Like she has. She doesn't think she can do it. I'm like, I don't think she. I don't. I don't think she's pretending. I. Sometimes people just don't think they're gonna be as fierce as they are. They're not as confident. Confident. That doesn't mean she's like, trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes every episode.
B
Well, she's saying the anxiety is a part of her creative process.
A
Yeah, that's. That's some. Some folks need that Thai.
B
And she's Thai.
A
Thai. What do you mean?
B
She's Taiwan? I think I mean Thailand.
A
It's Thailand, babe. She's Taiwanese.
B
You wouldn't say Thai from Thailand.
A
You would say Thai from Thailand.
B
Thailand. But you would say Ty from Taiwan. Okay, she's not Thai.
A
Taiwanese.
B
She ties. But she did not tie. She won these. There was no tie. She won these.
A
You're so stupid. Y'. All.
B
Listen, give us about a month.
A
Wait, wait, I'm not. I'm not done.
B
Okay, go ahead. Sorry.
A
I hung. I hung out with Nymphia. I did that tour in South America. In South America with her.
B
Was she on her phone?
A
Sometimes? Sometimes. But she was. She's also a really good performer. I was like. She was great performing there. And we just hung out. We partied until like 9 o' show clock.
B
The.
A
On in the morning, dancing till the sun came up. Nymphia was really, really, truly lovely and a. A great person off the show.
B
She's a party girl.
A
Not like. She wasn't. She was just dancing and drinking until 9 o' clock in the morning.
B
I'm not referring to drugs. I'm just saying. Okay.
A
Yeah.
B
I mean, if you dance and the sun comes up, you probably. You're probably doing something. I. I ain't saying she was, but I don't dance.
A
I was up until 9 o' clock in the morning.
B
And we know how you party. That was. That was not a glowing depiction of sobriety, what you just said. I was there, okay? And bitch, what that supposed to mean, Bob? We did. Listen, y', all give us like a month. We will give you every. We will give you. The one with literally every regret will be very, very long. It'll be the longest video on our YouTube page. Well, but maybe. Maybe Monet and I will film a little intro for. Well, we'll actually preface it with a little bit of an intro so it won't just be like blam, you know?
A
Yeah, I think. Yeah, I think that makes sense. Well, we did it. This is how many. We did 16 seasons of how many episodes though, Jacob? Like how many part, cuz. Some. Some 17. Really? Yeah. We only won more than the amount of season. That's. That sounds crazy.
B
And I think that was my prediction.
A
Boring. Anyway, no, you know, to quote you. What is that based off of? Did you just.
B
When my words. I said out loud with my mouth.
A
The hell you did. Anyways.
B
Why you want to fight me? You try to do five. Five on one episode.
A
Yeah, so we did everything. I think part of the reason went over because there was one episode where we only did seven. That was Bob being troll. That was Bob being ridiculous. If you would have behaved, I would have behaved. Okay, so how about you worry about yourself. Don't worry about how I'm doing. Do your own thing. You behave for you.
B
I take away you all the time. You're my little baby.
A
Get out of here. Anyway, okay, we gotta go. Thank y' all for listening to us do this episode. And the compilation is coming very soon.
B
Bye.
A
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Date: August 21, 2024
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob The Drag Queen
This episode marks (what may be) the penultimate installment in Monét and Bob’s epic series "The One About Every Ru Girl," where they systematically share memories, hot takes, and strong opinions about each alumna of RuPaul’s Drag Race. This week, they cover queens from the more recent seasons (15-16), discuss Drag Race-related drama (namely, Nymphia Wind’s phone-at-the-meet-and-greet situation), and spill plenty of tea on meet-and-greet etiquette, performance highlights, and memorable lewks. The episode is filled with playful roasting and the hosts’ signature "sibling rivalry" banter, jumping between deep appreciation and pure clownery—with plenty of personal anecdotes, fan stories, and quotes from the Drag Race fandom.
"I just wanted to say my initial response when I reposted the video was not to apologize because I lived the whole hour and 30 minutes of this meet and greet and what you guys see is a 7-second video...Y’all can be mad, but I’m living my brat summer." —Nymphia (10:09)
“She was a very slated front runner. I don’t think anyone was particularly shocked when Sasha Colby snatched the crown.” —Bob (23:42)
“Utterly joyless and dismissive.” —A Reddit fan on Bob (14:19)
“Y’all can be mad, but I’m living my brat summer.” —Nymphia Wind’s response (10:09)
“She gave me her firstborn child, she Venmoed me 50 bucks, she took her shoe off…” —Bob, on fandom expectations (09:21)
"We've done this whole motherfucking series, and I'm just now finding out [the wiki]!" —Bob (22:51)
“Oh, the Tweedledum Tweedledee was criminal. Prison time. Jail.” —Bob on Plasma’s look (46:54)
“You rewrite history. You’re one of those girls.” —Bob, when Monét misremembers fandom arguments (35:13)
“I just wanna talk about [Nymphia's drama] now because it’s so fresh on my mind.” —Bob (09:59)
“She has a weird New York accent…that is a theater kid in her.” —Bob (45:56)
| Timestamp | Topic | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------| | 09:39 | Nymphia Wind’s Meet & Greet Controversy | | 14:19 | Reading Reddit Fan Reviews & Meet-and-Greet Tales | | 18:17 | Season 15 Highlights: Luxx, Anetra, Sasha Colby, etc. | | 24:10 | Season 16: Hershii LiqCour-Jeté & Queens as Parents | | 28:00 | Mirage, Streams, and Controversies | | 31:09 | Amanda Tori Meating: Make-up Critiques, LA/NYC/Ohio | | 35:33 | Geneva Karr: Texas Border Drag Aesthetic | | 43:12 | Tsunami Muse, Plasma, and New York Drag Dynamics | | 59:01 | Morphine Love Dion Post-accident & Lip Sync Praise | | 69:08 | Nymphia Wind Rundown & Meet-and-Greet Closure |
This episode represents the Sibling Rivalry podcast at its purest: a blend of deeply informed Drag Race fandom, queer-black comedy, and plenty of sharp but loving roasts. The hosts move through the roster of recent Drag Race queens, sharing opinions about their artistry, discussing fan interactions, and recounting both personal and Reddit fan meet-and-greet stories. The episode is punctuated by signature sibling shading, wild asides about fashion and nightlife, and a highlight reel of classic and viral Drag Race moments.
For any Drag Race fan, this episode offers a balanced mix of gossip, analysis, and celebration—a must-listen recap and irreverent homage to the show’s most recent legends and controversies.