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We've performed. I mean, for Civil rivalry, we've performed together at the Castro.
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I said the debut of Siffin Rivalry live is what I said.
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That was like my debut of 57th street on the north side on the east block.
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Anyway, go to Bob. Go to.
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Oh, my God.
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Go to. Go get your tickets to go see us at the.
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You can go to seethedradqueen.com and you can find your ticket link there. Go to seethedradqueen.com but you really should
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go to Monet Xchange.com and get the tickets through there, y'. All.
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Netflix is a joke and me and Monet happen to be absolutely hilarious. Sylvia Roberts going around the world. And by around the world, I mean literally San Francisco and la, so kind of just California.
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So if you want to come see us for the Netflix is a joke festival, it's going to be on May 5, which is my mom's. Well, almost my mom's birthday. Come see us and go to monetexchange.com to get tickets.
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Well, what's your mom's birthday?
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May 9th.
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Okay, go to seethedragqueen.com and get your tickets. That's not your mom's birthday. My name is Bob the Drag Queen
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and I'm Monet X change.
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And this is simply rivalry. On this week's episode, Monet is the brand ambassador for Iceland.
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We continue with our series every Rude girl with part seven.
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And we find out what made Monet say this.
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Now, I didn't love on season eight because she was fighting with my best friend and I was like, I don't like that white, ugly, pasty, fucking Britney Spears boogie bitch. And we find out what made Bob say this.
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And allegedly, allegedly, I don't know how true this is, but allegedly, she's. Now she does car share Riley driving, which is ironic. Monet, you're in Iceland. Ice, like your heart.
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I'm in Iceland. So really quick, before we start the podcast. So the reason why I'm here in Iceland right now, people like, I posted a thing about me at the bath thing. Like, why are you in Iceland? Why Iceland? So I won this as a prize on RuPaul Draga's All Stars 4 in 2018. The week after I won this prize on TV, the airline that World of Wonder got us wow Airlines folded. The company went bankrupt.
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Drag her.
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So I didn't have a way to get there. And then I was, like, busy with work and stuff. Naomi redeemed her. It was the makeover challenge. Naomi redeemed hers, and I am just redeeming mine. But the company, Pink Iceland. Who shout out to Pink Iceland. They're a queer travel situation here in Iceland. If you are queer and you want to travel to. Not even queer, anyone. If you want to travel to Pink to Iceland, Pink Iceland is your girls. They're everything. And they've been taking care of me the entire time. They pay for my accommodation.
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They're not paying us. They're not paying us, nigga.
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You mind your business anyway.
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You and I, you getting your little side check. Get your side checks over on your Instagram page.
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Get up. Pink Iceland. They're a queer. And everyone who works there is queer. They're gay as fuck and they are amazing. I've done everything there is to do in Iceland, and it's been seamless, beautiful, amazing. So shout out to Birna and a. They're everything.
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Why are you dragging me into your brand deals? Just dragging me along with your little brand deals. This is wild. Why you so tired? If you getting all your travel done for you, why are you so tired?
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I'm just tired. I've been out all day doing adventurous stuff. And I just came from the gay bar. I was drinking. Bob. I think I've reached an age where I'm a little. Because I had a little too much. I think I was a little overserved and I was dozing off a little bit at the drag show. Not Cause the drag show was bad. It was a very good show. I was just a little tipsy, but now I'm coming down.
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Well, then it's gonna be exciting. This is gonna be probably one of the most exciting episodes of every Rude Girl. Because Monet is gonna be 100% honest today. Cause she got a little bit of that juice in her honey. She got a little bit of that gender fluid in. So let's. Let's go on our. Without further.
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She got a little gender fluid. That's funny. You look very jazzy. Why you look so jazzy?
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Well, I. I was. I just dressed nice to go out today. And then I just put this outfit back on. I was in bed, like not wearing. I was wearing my bed in my underwear. And then I just got dressed and put this back on.
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You and Jacob were in the bed in your underwear together?
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Jacob was. No, Jacob was actually more dressed than I was. Jacob was not wearing a shirt, but he was wearing some shorts and I was in my underwear.
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Did you and Jacob hook up today?
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We did hook up today, yeah.
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Ooh, yeah.
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Did you have Pixie hook up today?
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Say it again.
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Did you and Pixie hook up today?
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We did not.
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That's okay. There's always tomorrow.
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I leave tomorrow.
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Maybe Pink ice can help you get a pink. I can find you a hooker.
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Why do you hate. Why do you hate queer businesses? Let me tell you something about Bob the Drag Queen. Bob the Drag Queen. If it's not his queer business, he don't want to see us succeed.
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Literally.
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I know. It's very clear how you behave.
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Yeah.
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What of it speaks volumes about your character and who you are.
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I am known for hating queer businesses. Everyone knows it about me.
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Harlem Pink Iceland, Monet Exchange llc.
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Pink island can go, you know, to hell. Monet's like, don't up my brand deals. I don't have any thoughts about Pink asling. So without further ado, let's hop back in with Ms. Cuckoo herself.
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Part seven. This is.
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Is it seven?
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Yeah, this is seven. Last one was six.
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I was accosted last night. Not accosted. That's a huge over exaggeration. I ran into Tsunami.
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Surprise. Bob the Drag Queen. Surprise. Bob the Drag Queen was over exaggerating surprise to no one. Listening to this.
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I ran into Xunami. And my name is Xunami.
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And Kandi Muse last night, her name is Xunami.
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You know, I just remember her saying to me, it sound like she was saying Xunami. So I just.
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It was her accent. Not even because of her accent. This is rich. Anyway, Xunami.
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It doesn't sound like she said Xunami. Like, did you hear her say Tsunami? Cause I was hearing Tsunami. Then I saw X written down.
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I was hearing Tsunami in Kandy Muse
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at $3bill last night.
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I saw that. You know I'm a loyal drag to Bob Queen. Bob the Drag Queen follower. I saw your story.
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You were twisted, girl. You had them. Tito's. What? You had you over there drinking. Drinking some. You just said I was overserved and falling asleep at a show. And now you're. Now you're as sober as they've ever come.
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Well, I left as long as sleep.
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I said I'm nodding off.
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I nodded.
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Monet said the show was so fucking bored. By the way, just so y' all know, Monet has actually been sober for five years. That's an excuse she uses to lie to you all. Monet thinks your show is shit. Monet thinks your show is boring. Monet is trying to do damage control right now. What Monet is doing? Is she gonna say, people saw me sleeping at this show? I'm gonna say, oh, I was overserved. Blame it on the bartender. Monet didn't like your show. To all those queens from Iceland. She hated your show and she was following.
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There was one queen, she was actually very fucking funny. And if you are in.
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How would you know? You were sleeping.
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I was not sleeping. I dozed off one time for, like, a second. I was literally like. I was enjoying the show, and then I was just like. And I caught myself. I was like, oh, shit. And then I got a drink, a glass of water, and I was good.
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You were shitfaced and asleep. And now you're doing a full review of the show.
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If you have a chance to go see the Dragon Iceland, go to Kiki's. Faye is fucking hilarious. She's a queen from Portland. She's lived in Iceland for 25 years. I'm like, honestly.
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Big shout out to probably one of the most famous Icelandic queens who passed away this year. Heklina. Shout out to Heklina this year? Yeah, this year.
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Oh, my God.
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Yeah.
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What is time?
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Shout out hecklina, y'. All. Rip Heck. Rip Hecky.
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Hecklina is not a RuPaul Drag Race queen.
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She's dead.
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Okay? I mean, like, that. But I'm like, how you want me
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to talk about you when you die, huh? You talking about this other Icelandic queen from Portland? She not from Drag Race. You stopped the show to talk about how shitty her show was. You stopped the whole podcast. Talk about how horrible her show how boring. How you were falling asleep.
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I did not say any of those things.
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You said, go to this bar. They will overserve you. They're. They. They're irresponsible pores, and the show's boring.
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I did not say any of that. Oh, my God. You're a bad person. Anyway, yes. RIP Hecklina. I used to love Hecklina. She was fierce.
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She is not a Drag Race girl. Stop talk.
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But who know who is a drag Race girl from.
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Wait, real quick. The. The part of me bringing up Candy was. Candy was like, when are y' all gonna be? She was like, this is crazy. How are y' all this many episodes in you're only on it season eight? This is wild. She's like, y' all need to pick up the pace.
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Did you tell her the episode when you literally would not let us? Because I did. Okay.
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And what of it? She was there. She heard it.
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Does Kandy listen to our podcast?
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She says she does. She says she's a pretty avid listener. I mean, she knew what episode we were bitching. She knew what season around before I knew.
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No, Jacob, that's a terrible idea.
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And, yeah, I mean, you know, Candy. Jacob said he wants to get. We'll get to Candy. But also, Candy looked really cute with her little mustache last night. I was like, oh, let me try now when Drake.
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Candy has a big ass dick.
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Okay. Jesus Christ.
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Okay. She's literally posted on her Twitter. I'm not breaking news.
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Candy has. All I said was Jesus Christ. All I said was Jesus Christ. That's all I do.
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You disagree that this Candy have a big dick or not?
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I haven't seen it compared to other things, but I'm not talking about Kandi's dick. All I'm saying was Kandi looked cute with her mustache.
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Well, I'm asking you. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm asking you, does Kandi have a bigger dick or no, I'm not interested
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in engaging in the conversation about how big Candy Muse is.
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Why?
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I just don't want to. I don't want to talk about how big Kandy Muse's dick is, but I will say that. Oh, then I'm not stopping you from saying it. All I'm saying is Kandy Muse looked really cute with her mustache last night. That's all I was saying. You are so messy. Yeah, you did get overserved.
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You are so messy today.
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I'm messy.
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You are so messy.
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Cause I said Kandy Muse was cute with her mustache, and I'M messy.
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Okay, where was the conversation going?
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I was talking about how Kandy Muse was saying, wow, we have not gone very far. And then, as a side note, I just said Kandy Muse looked really cute with her mustache. That's literally all I said. It wasn't a tangent. It wasn't some sneaky way to talk about Kandy's big fat dick. This wasn't me trying to find craft some sneaky way to talk about Kandi's penis. Monet. I just wanted to get big up Candy in her little mustache.
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Oh, she's.
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I know she's Candy.
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Penny's big enough. She's big enough.
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That note, when you are a drag race girl who grows mustache in life, when you get a chance to grow one, you be feeling your fantasy.
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Oh, I. You cannot tell me I am so much cuter with facial hair. I sacrifice my cuteness for drag. Like I sacrifice.
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You look very beautiful without facial hair.
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But I think I'm way cuter with facial hair. Can y' all comment below? Am I cuter with or without facial hair?
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Yeah, drag Mon Amy. Coming. When they said drag me in the comments, I don't care. Drag me. Tell me how busted I'd be looking. I mean, I do prefer the way I look with a beard, right? But I'm so used. I'm just so used to seeing myself without a beard. Also, by the way, y', all, this is. I know we've mentioned this podcast before, but this is literally when I tell y', all, this is. This is all the eyebrows I can grow. This is crazy for me. This is bushy Anna. This is. I feel like Eugene Levy right now with these. Let me get close so y' all can get.
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Wait, you give us a.
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This is the most eyebrows you've seen me with in a very long time, girl.
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I am gag in my eyes. You got two tarantulas crawling on your forehead, girl.
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And the funny thing is, when I last a couple Christmas go, when I had the hairpiece and the beard, everyone was like, I can't wait for the eyebrows to grow in. I was like, girl, this is it. What you mean, can't wait, bitch? This is it.
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Remember your hairpiece and your beard? You were really giving it. You were giving it to the girls. The hairpiece and the facial hair.
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Mbaku. All right, we gotta get started.
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Listen, we gotta get started.
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The cuckoo herself, I think Cynthia Lee Fontaine, who was the Miss Congeniality from. She is from Puerto Rico. She lives in Austin, Texas, and I think she might be actually One of the literally genuinely nicest people I've ever met in my life. And I mean genuinely nice, not like in a no fake shit.
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Yeah, it's real.
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Cynthia Lee Fontaine is genuinely a. Just a lovely.
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Cynthia loves Twitter. Cynthia will comment on your Twitter and start with and she will, and she will. Cynthia had a. She had a beef with Charlie XCX recently. Do you remember this?
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What?
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Cynthia Lee had beef like Charli XDX on the name Cynthia Lee Fontaine. Like if anyone's politicians, housewives, Cynthia Lee will pop off on you on Twitter and be like Mr. Moniz, I cannot believe you. You stupid. I don't like the way you do this. And it is not Cynthia Lee will get you to. She will gather you on Twitter.
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Well, didn't Charli XCX have a thing with Aquaria?
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Charli XCS said, I choose to comment not on another person's review, but on my experience of. Of Kim. Of Kim Jacob as an artist whom I've collaborated with many times. Artists are so much more than singular albums. Great artists generate culture and conversations and transcend music. I am giving my thoughts. Cynthia said, don't you. Don't you dare try to teach me how artistry works. I'm aware how it works. But the music business and culture interaction derives not just only on comments between colleagues, but also your own criteria, point of view and personal experience. Do better. Ignorant.
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Ignorant.
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Damn.
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This is not the cuckoo I know.
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I have seen so many of Cynthia's fights on Twitter and every time I watch the entire thread cause Cynthia and oh baby. It don't stop at one comment. Cynthia is making a chain and each one is even more egregious than the last. I live it started because Charli made comments on Kim Petras new album without listening to it. So Cynthia was like, baby, like what are you doing? It was great. I love Cynthia. So Charli XDX said that and Cynthia said.
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What was the comment? What'd she say?
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Cynthia said. So I haven't heard it yet. And she decided to make a comment based on someone's review Cringe.
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You know, I tried to use the setting mic but I'm so used to the handheld mic now that I this feels more comfortable to me. I really try. I'm back to my. Everyone kept making fun of me. So I look like an on location
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reporter for the that shit. I When someone said that I couldn't unsee it. It looked like you were reporting for a channel News Channel, Channel 9 now.
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So I got subconscious and I went back to the stand. But it was like, I don't know. This is. I'm just used to this now.
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But Cynthia Lefante. Cynthia Lefante had a battle with cancer, and she also had a hip replacement. Double, Very double hip replacement. Very recently, too. And, you know, that's one of those moments, y'. All. And Cynthia is one of the girls who. One of the. One of the comeback queens.
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Yeah, I love. Yeah, she. She came back on. She was on season eight. She also came back on season nine. When you first met Cynthia, did you love her? Do you think she was wild?
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Immediately. I loved her immediately, without a shadow of a doubt. Like, I was like, I love this queen. She's so lovely, so sweet, so kind, so genuine. Shout out to Cynthia Lee Fontaine from Austin, Texas. I love you, girl. Love, love. And yeah, she really loves to talk about her ass. The cuckoo. I think the cuckoo is cuckoo. I guess it's like, I don't know if it's Puerto Rican slang for ass or if it's. Or if this is like, just like the thing she came up with. But, baby, she will talk about that cuckoo.
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Honey, I hooked up with a lot of Puerto Ricans. I've never, ever once heard them say anything about a cuckoo.
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Can I show you what Jacob does? This is so. This tickles make you. Jacob uses this as chapstick.
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What the fuck is that? It's.
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It's a giant aquaphor. So Jacob takes this big ass. His tiny ass hand.
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I'm so nice to see you with all this jewelry. The earrings and the necklace. I'm.
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I wear earrings all the time.
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Yeah, but not the. Like, these, like, really big ones. I never see with a necklace, a chain like that. It looks like. I'm not saying to look bad, by the way. I'm not trying to come here. I'm just saying I'm just not used to. I'm not seeing you with such a look.
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Okay, first of all, I wasn't asking you to say look bad. I wasn't asking your opinion. Let's make that clear. You can make an observation, but you can't make an opinion about me.
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Bitch, let's go on to nature.
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You know, you can't give an opinion about. You can give an opinion about Dax. No, about nation. Lopez.
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Yeah. Get your fucking queens right before you come for me. Naysha Lopez. So, Naysha Lopez. Okay, I'm trying to remember your season. She went home before Cynthia, then came back, and then she. So this is the first out?
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Yeah, she was first out, came back, then she was fourth. She was sent home by Layla McQueen to the song. Applause. She's also Puerto Rican. Her birthday is two days before mine and Layla McQueen's. And of course, she lives in Chicago. Her biggest.
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She lives in Los Angeles.
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Oh, that's right. That's right.
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She is.
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She's born in Chicago.
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She's a former Miss Continental.
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Yeah, that's her biggest accolade. You know, we have two form three former Ms. Continentals in the drag race US world. We have Brooke Lynn Heights, who is a runner up of season 11. We have Naysha Lopez. And we have Sasha Colby, who is the winner of season 15.
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Yes.
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And yeah, now there might be. There might be some more misunderstand in all the other countries. I. But I don't watch the other. The other ones.
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Damn, y'.
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All.
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Every time. Every time Bob says he don't watch other seasons, y' all ever see that little glimmer in his eye, like he's so proud. So proud. I don't watch Dealership Well, I think
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they're gonna be like, you know, I'm like, there's too many.
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It sounds like you're looking down on them, though.
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And I don't support queer businesses.
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Y' all know this Naysha Lopez. I. Naysha Lopez. So let me say this about season eight. So when season eight happened, obviously my best friend was on the. Was on the season. When Bob came back, he was still a little cryptic about it. And then when the cast announced, he was like, we all knew, and we all spoke cold about it. But anyway, all the season A girls came to New York to Do whatever press and everything. Bob brought all of the season eight girls. Well, not all of them. Whoever wanted to come, but it was a good chunk of them. At least like seven or eight of them came to me and miss Cracker show, including Naysha Lopez. And she was so.
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You're welcome.
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And she was so nice and so sweet and so Naysha has always been. I've always had a very positive, sweet, loving relationship with Naysha Lopez. And then I. And then she used to host the viewing party at Roscoe's. What was it called? What's the name of it?
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I don't know.
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Is there a name?
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Drag Race View, I guess. Yeah.
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She hosted it for a really long time. So she did every Friday or. Yeah, whatever day the drag is coming with all the new. With the new episodes. And Tonisha Lopez is great and she has a really hot.
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Used to be T. Rex, but then she got the.
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She got the boot and then it
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was Naysha Lopez and Betty Batty Davis.
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Love Baddie Davis, by the way. And I. There's a new. There's another bearded queen. And I'm sorry, her name is escaping
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right now, but I love her. I don't know her name, but I love her.
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I love her too. She's great. She's really funny and she's great.
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Yeah. But shout out to Naysha Lopez. Very. I mean, truly stunning and also low key. Looks like Demi Lovato.
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I see that. I see that.
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All right, let's go on to
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one
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of the most creative queens I think I've ever met, actually, and I think technically, the oldest queen for my season.
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Technically? What do you mean technically? Like either you are you, or what's the technically?
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Did I say technically?
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Yes.
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Did I say technically?
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You did. You said technically. The oldest season of my season.
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Maybe her and someone else are the same age, but she was born before. I don't know. Or maybe I just said technically randomly. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe that's what it was.
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The queen of semantics getting upset about a semantic.
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That's not what semantics are, but continue.
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Yeah, well. Cause I know. Okay, sorry, I'm speaking beforehand because I know if we went on this. I know if we went on this conversation, if I drug it out and I had a rebuttal, it would become a very semantic argument with you, the queen of semantics.
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Now you starting an argument and then creating a narrative where I'm arguing you down and yelling at you, literally, because
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we all know you. Everyone watching is listening. We know how you think. We know how you play the game. And you play with the right one, Monae.
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You've been overserved and it's showing. Talk about Acid Betty. Which is drunk ass.
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I'm drunk. Thorgy Thor is drunk. I'm not drunk.
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Were you overserved or are you sober? Which one is it, Mon? I can't tell anymore. That was a while ago.
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I am coming down. I'm not drunk.
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What time is it?
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It's 1154.
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So you say a while ago. What is it? Was it brunch? Was the show at noon?
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It was at noon.
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Was it a 3pm show?
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It was at dusk.
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Lying ass. We can you know this information all available on the Internet. You said she's the queen from Portland in. She's been in 25 years. We can narrow it down who it is. And we know for a fact on this podcast that you lie. Oh, this is well documented. You're lying. Pinky promise. Yeah, Your lies are documented, bitch. We know your lie.
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That's different. I didn't know my camera was on. That's different.
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Oh, so if you lie with the cameras off, it's not a lie?
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Who knows? You wouldn't know.
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But I'm saying we know you lie. And now you're trying to gaslight me. We know you will lie, bitch. So check that. You. You needed a medium sized pizza.
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Acid Betty. Acid Betty was easily. Well, there are two villains, okay? They try to make it three. Like three. You, Acid and Derek. But you weren't a villain. You just had one.
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I was not a villain on my season. But they. If they were saying.
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People say they're three villains and they would like to add you as a third one.
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People. People don't say I was a villain. People don't say that.
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Bob, you were fighting with.
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With Derrick Barry. Okay? Spider Man's fighting the Green Goblin.
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Is he a villain to someone? To Harry Osborne. Spider man is a villain. Okay?
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No one says. You're the only person saying I was a villain on my season. No one says this. This is not a common sentiment. There is no Bob was a villain discourse on the Internet.
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Y' all comment below about Bob being the villain on season eight and Can I finish my sentence? I was saying, like, people like to bend the truth and say it's you, but I don't think it's you. I count Acid Betty and Derek as the two villains of the seasons. Acid Betty and Derek.
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You are people talking about. Some people say that you're people. You are the people, bitch.
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Jacob, out of these queens.
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Okay, so on.
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On April 28, let me finish. On April 28, 2021, I posted a poll out of these queens. Which was The Villain Season 8. Cynthia Le Fontaine, Bob the Drag Queen, Nisha Lopez, Bob the drag queen, landslide. 65 points.
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I want to point out the options were Miss Congeniality, Cynthia Lee Fontaine, Naysha Lopez, who was on two or three episodes of the show, and Bob the Drag Queen. And it was one of them.
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Who was the villain?
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Can you answer that? And it was done by fucking the Monation. Who we know they will like their leader. They will lie.
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Can you answer that?
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And the number one comment says, me seeing this list without Derrick Barry, Acid Betty. So let me post a poll in the next episode. We're going to find that you're. I'm like, who was the villain? Monet, the camera or the girl from craft services?
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We all know it was the camera operator that put the fucking 10 pounds on me. That's the villain of season 10.
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But Acid Betty is also incredible. She's really creative. She's so talented. She's also a really great video editor, graphics designer, makeup artist. Acid Betty did our visuals for the Sibling Rivalry tour. She does the video, the visuals for Work the World. I don't know if she still does work, but she worked the world back
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when I was there, at least up until I was on work the world 2019. She was in the visuals. I don't know how it stands now. I haven't been on it for a while.
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Acid Betty is a true, true club kid. A true.
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I employ y' all to just Google. You can probably Google them as if anybody, like, looks before Drag Race, like, I mean, I mean, still post Drag Race, obviously, but. Yes, but Aspen used to do some really, like, funky stuff. She was also one of the queens. I was on Queens of Queens of New York, that series with like, Bunny.
C
Yeah, yeah, Queens of New York.
A
Bunny, Peppermint. Some other queens. Like, it's. It's great. Azabet is great. She also has that, that, that unicorn glitter makeup company. So if you want some. Some unicorn glitter, go to her shop and buy it.
C
Yeah, big shout out to Acid Betty. She's really super talented, and I like her a lot. Girl.
A
Girl.
C
Okay, we gotta talk about probably one of the most controversial and. And misunderstood and confusing queens in the entire Drag Race lore. Right? Wouldn't you say?
A
Which is so crazy, because on her season, her entrance line and stuff, like at the beginning of y' all season, I really liked her. I had, I. I had a very high hopes for the. This queen.
C
And then she, Robbie Turner, is a conundrum of a queen. So to give you a little bit of run out, Robbie Turner is from Seattle, Washington. She's allegedly the sister wife of Jinx and Ben Lam. So the trifecta is Ben, Jinx, and apparently Robbie Turner.
A
You look at the material. Ben and Jinx are incredible, hilarious, very good at what they do.
C
And then somewhere after our season, Robbie Turner got on the Internet and told a story that did not check out. She pulled a Monet. She just straight up lied. Okay, Robbie Turner said that, by the way. Robbie Turner. There was rumors that Robbie Turner would just say stuff. Like, we all would compare stories and be like, that doesn't make sense. Like, I'm not getting it correct. But, like, you check in with people and then you'd hear from their stories. Once you all compare notes that Robbie Turner had been mugged, like, eight times in a year. She got mugged. Wait. And then you all add up the. Add up the information.
A
The Rihanna one.
C
Yes. Robbie had survived cancer, like, four times. And then one time, to be honest, I can't remember if she told me the story she told someone else, because we were all just sharing these stories. But Robbie Turner told someone that Rihanna's assistant is a Robbie Turner superfan. And. And then Robbie Turner went to go. They wanted to see a Robbie Turner show. So Robbie Turner went to this tent, like, this big room, and the only people in the room were Rihanna, who was wearing nothing but a fur coat. And, I mean, pussy titties out in the fur coat, which is such an odd detail to add if it's not true. And then the assistant and then Robbie Turner performing a show for them solo, no one else around. And I'm like, who's running sound? Who. Who drove them there? How did you. What's that? Like, this doesn't make sense.
A
Yeah. Lady Wild.
C
And then she got. Then. So the big. The big controversy was when she told everyone that she was in her Uber in an accident. Her Uber driver passed away, and she was like, hey. She goes, I just woke up. I've been in a car accident. I didn't. I didn't recollect. I didn't recollect it. I'm not certain what happened. My driver did not survive. I'm home with barely a scratch. But when I was informed of what actually happened, my closest family and friends came to mind. Wear a seatbelt. I did.
A
Like, what?
C
And then people started being like, I just.
A
Like, what is going on on? Like, why?
C
So then people started looking up, being like, wait, What's.
A
What?
C
Wait, wait, what? And then people started being like, let me just do some checking. They were like, no, there were no accidents anywhere between where Robbie lives and the bar she worked at. People were like. There was no reported deaths from any. From any car accidents. People were like, baby, this didn't happen. This just didn't happen. They should made a follow up tweet that was like. I like. But my head and I hallucinated and it was all a dream. I used to read Word up magazine. Like she, like, she's. And then people were just like. And then she. And then she just disappeared. Vanished. Can you tell us her last. Her last. Her last Instagram post while Jacob's doing that?
A
Allegedly.
C
Allegedly. I don't know how true this is, but allegedly she's. Now she does car share ride driving, which is.
A
Well, my thing is how has no one seen her, like of all the queer people, especially in Seattle. Or maybe she doesn't live there anymore. How is no one.
C
Wait, her last post said. Oh, this is the last post. Anyway, this is the follow up post and it says, last night on my way home, my Uber was struck by a driver. I had closed my eyes briefly because I was exhausted after a week of shows. Then it happened. No screeching of tires, no gas from my driver. Just silence followed by me opening my eyes in an ambulance. I heard the. She's adding details. I heard the collision for a second but quickly hit my head and it was over. The driver did not survive upon impact as I was told. The driver did not survive upon impact as I was told. They ran tests on me at the hospital, but outside of my shoulder feeling jammed and my right eye hurting, I only have a bruise. Grateful that it wasn't. Grateful that it wasn't worse for me, but very sore and stiff today. Oddly enough, I was looking at this whole. At this photo shoot I had done with this person before I entered the car thinking about how many more ideas I would want to like, show the world. Wear a seatbelt. I did. It changed what could have been a very different post. Thank you for all the kind notes I have received. Be kind to everyone, even when it's difficult. You have no clue what could happen or what someone else is going through. Hashtag, love is my religion.
A
Remember hashtags.
C
What an odd thing, right?
A
Yeah, very weird. Very weird. I just don't understand, like, is it for attention? Is it for some type of like simple. I don't know, like why, why?
C
There's room that she. There's room that She's a teacher now. There's rumor that she drives Uber now. But I do know someone who did see her because they lived in her building and.
A
What? Who?
C
Girl, this is so messy. But it was like, I can't.
A
It's too much. Bob, you're not saying who it is.
C
I know, but it's. But. But if I tell you how they know her. It was a person who knew her and was like, girl, she lived in my building and she's, like, kind of creepy now. She, like, doesn't talk and she, like, kind of. She's like, I don't know. But I can't remember all the details because the stories are so convoluted. The truth is, I don't remember all the details because it's so convoluted, but they were like, I see her sometimes, and she's still in the fucking building, and she's, like, living there, and she still lives there. And that being said, she's a great roller skater. Really amazing.
A
Good. Y' all sees. I know she went home kind of a little early in the middle of the pac. Okay, you know, let's take a break, and I'll finish about Robbie.
C
All right. And we're black.
A
She was, like, funny all season. And I really. Especially her entrance line. I really enjoyed Robbie. It really sucks that she went out like this.
C
You tell the interest line. You keep referencing it. What was it?
A
I didn't know this was happening today. So, yeah, shout out to Robbie. Robbie, if you happen to be listening to this, can you give Sid and Wyvery the exclusive interview of you coming back? I really want it to be on Cidmin Wyvern when it happens.
C
Let's talk about if Sherry Pac can
A
try to come back. Robbie can come back.
C
Let's talk about our. My oldest drag friend. Truly my oldest drag friend that I still talk to, who still does drag, and that is Ms. Thor Gorgalyn.
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Thor.
C
Honestly, this is a very interesting cast.
A
Is it very what?
C
A very interesting cast. Maybe I just. Maybe I just know so much because this was my season. But Thorgy is a. Thorgy is truly one of the people who kind of curated and started what is the current Brooklyn drag scene.
A
I agree with that. For sure. For sure.
C
It was Thorgy Azrea, Lady Blue, Local Light Misdemeanor Backspace, Crystal, Something something. A lot of McGriddles, Charmaine Ultra, these, like, oddball drag kids. And not saying there was an eyeball drag before, but, like, back at. What was that bar? What was it? Wait, what was it? Sugar Land, Sugarland and tnt, which both no longer exist, by the way. But I remember going to see their shows at Sugar Land. And what a different scene now Brooklyn is. I think there's more Queens in Brooklyn. Are in Manhattan.
A
According to Megami, that bitch from season six, everybody got big hair. And Brooklyn Dracula is big hair, big hips, gowns.
C
She said that about Brooklyn.
A
Brownsville. I remember we realized.
C
Oh, I was like. But yeah, the Brooklyn drag scene is really. I don't know a whole lot about it, but I do remember, like, when there. When there was like, not that many gay bars in Brooklyn. And Thorgy really was kind of the bridge. Thorgy and Aja. Aja also. Aja's another one. Who was. Who was. I would say aja. OK. Thorgy. A lot of McGriddles. Lady Blue, Mocha Light, Misdemeanor, Lady Havoc. Lady Havoc. Aja.
A
What's her name?
C
Mary Cherry.
A
Mary Cherry. There's another one. She's on the Tiffany, so I can't believe I'm forgetting her name.
C
What'd she look like? Crystal something something.
A
Not Crystal something something. She's a black queen. Ms. Jade.
C
Ms. Jade. Ms. Jade, who I just saw last night. Who I just ran into last night.
A
I love Miss Jade. Such a great dancer.
C
Miss Jade, another one. All kind of crafted this, like, scene in Brooklyn. And it's really interesting now. Cause I wonder how Thorgy feels about, like, is Brooklyn is Thorgy. Yeah. I birthed you hoes.
A
Thorgy Thor with a big pink hat. Thorgy Thor with a big pink.
C
Is that Thor with a really big hat?
A
Where am I thinking that from?
C
Because Thorgy. Thorgy always had this idea for a song she wanted to do called Thorgy Thor in a really. In a really big hat.
A
Thor in a really big hat. Which, by the way, I. Thor, I. Thorgy's promo look, I love. I don't think this gets the, like.
C
This is a.
A
This is a. I love her promo look for your season. It was so good.
C
No, Thorgy looked great. I like the. I like the jacket. I like this, like, punk kind of vibe she's got going on. Or like this rockabilly. I'm not great with fashion references, but it looks kind of like a punky rockabilly type moment. And Thorgy is another one of, by the way, Cynthia Lefontaine, also an opera singer. And Thorgy is a classical musician as well. The classical musician. To drag Pipeline, it needs to be studied.
A
Studied. I think that's a lot.
C
Needs to be studied. What is up with y' all classical performer. Is it because. Is it because your. Your classical world is so buttoned up and uptight and you get to like go crazy? Is that what it is?
A
No, I just think that just like music, theater people and other people, we're just artists and we're just finding that we just. We. Because we don't have. We don't. We can't be where we want to be in our. In our. In our. In our. With our instrument. Or we just like. Art always finds a way to like get out. Like you just need a way to get your art out. And drag was a way that I found that I could like get my art out of me and just not just staying in here felt so. So self contained in art. And drag allowed me the vehicle to like bring it out to the world.
C
But y' all aren't cheesy like the theater folks. Like the theater folks, we're so lame. We're like, like, y' all aren't like, you will do opera every once in a while. But the theater queens, that's their entire personality. I feel like the classical. The classical musicians are like, oh, by the way, total random note. I play. I was at Carnegie hall doing violin this week. Total side note as a violinist or a flautist or I'm a mezzo soprano randomly. But the theater girlies, it's their whole. It is in every number. In the way they dress in the. It's the whole, they're dressing like Tracy Turnblad at show. It's like, it's so lame. No shade.
A
That's what it is.
C
And who loves theater. But I don't identify as a theater queen.
A
I think what it is about classical musicians is that we oftentimes people made fun of us for classical musicians. Like people make fun of us for going for playing violin or playing piano. Cause classic music seems so adult and still so boring. Whereas a theater is so much showier. Like, everyone's like, I can sing.
C
Like, it's very that.
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Whereas ours, we kind of classical musicians have to like conceal. Don't feel. Cause y' all used to make fun of us for being nerds. We're like, oh, you gotta go see
C
your rightfully so nerd ass Johan Sebastian Bach listening to your ass.
A
So I think that's what it is. We're like, yeah, I think that's what it is. Thorgy is your arch nemesis of season eight justice for Thorgy.
C
Thorgy and I did an entire season of first first impressions, which I think might be one of the best Seasons I've ever done of the show. Actually, it was real. We reviewed all stars. No UK3 with Tia Coffee.
A
Whatever Tia Coffee was on.
C
Yeah. Was that Lauren Chaney's team?
A
I think that was 2.
C
2. Jacob just nod his head at 2 and 3. Jacob's nod his head. Well, whatever the conference was on, that was the one that me and Georgie did. It was so fucking funny.
A
Mixed messages. The last thing to do, Jacob was
C
like, jacob, you're very clear and concise, baby. Okay. We reviewed season two with her, but we also reviewed season two. We also brought her back for another different watch that we bought a tea coffee. And I think that was. That's what Jake was saying. Also, we did All Stars the season with. So that Sonique won.
A
Yeah. Because I was away filming Drag Race. Yeah.
C
And me and Thorgy always get ourselves in some saying something and someone don't like us. And that's why Ginger don't like me, and that's why. But t. Coffee and Ginger Tea Coffee and Thor like each other, bro.
A
Oh, so. So okay. Okay, here's a question. So Thor Zhu. Thor can show up to work drunk and you. When I come to work, just a little tipsy.
C
Problem also. Wait, are you a little tipsy or you sober? Which one is it? Were you overserved or are you a little tipsy or are you sober?
A
I'm overserved, but I am fine.
C
Now you're sliding back and forth on the scale.
A
Oh, so now we're making fun of my weight
C
that's going on. That was actually pretty impressive. When Thorgy shows up drunk, I call her out too. Every episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You.
C
You.
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You're a fence rider. That's what you are. You offense rider.
C
Let me write that fence, daddy. I love Thorgy. Thorgy is truly. She's from Ron Konkuma, Long island, and she is a. Y', all. I'm telling you, right? If you want to like, I think Thorgy. Whatever. However you think Thorgy acts, that really is it. It's not an act.
A
Agreed. I would agree with that. Thorgy Thor is.
C
It's for real. That's really how she is.
A
Mm, mm, mm. I love Thorgy, though. Thorgy. Thorgy Thor was the first drag show I saw. Drasmurise, Lavasia and I, we were in Caramore summer opera program together, and then we. I forgot. We figured out. We tried to watch Drag Race, and then we were like, we should go to a drag show. And I was like, oh, my God, what show? And she, like, looked up. We saw a Show at the Ritz. So we showed up to the Ritz that night. We went to Forever 21, got some cheap dresses, went to Mac, got some ruby wool lipstick, showed up to Forever 21, showed up to the Ritz. And there was a flood on the main floor. So the show was being held on the second floor. And it was Thorgy, Azra, Leapolitan, Lili Heavenly and someone else, Jasmine Rice and myself. And there was just the five of us just there.
C
That's not true that Thorgy's not the first drag show you saw. It was Peppermint at your college when you were ferocious couture.
A
But that was like. But that was like, this was a drag show. This is like Peppermint coming to a college to like.
C
Oh, you said Pepper show's not a drag show.
A
This was Peppermint coming to a college.
C
So like Pepper was doing a little Diddy Diddy. But Thorgy's a show doing a pageant
A
for like some like snot nosed freshman in high school.
C
Like, you know, have you seen Thorgy Twisted?
A
The drunkest I've seen Thorgy was at. We were both in Queen. And one night after Queen got done and Thorgy was just at the bar and she had two bears in both hands. One bear in each hand. And then I asked her about. Cause it was Thursday night. I was like, oh, girl, you gonna go to the Ritz? Another bar in the area. And she's like, yeah, yeah, I'm going to come. Got to come. Yeah, I'm going to come. And I was like, okay, work. I was like, can I get a ride with you over there? She's like, yeah, yeah. Like 20 minutes later passed, I was like, oh, girl, we still going to go to see the show? I was like, okay, I'm going to come.
C
Yeah, yeah, I'm going to come.
A
And then, girl, an hour passed, I was like, I have to go. So I just got in the cab and I went home. And I don't know what happened to Thorgy that day. She made it though.
C
Thorgy. Thorgy has some fucking ovaries on her, some balls on her, some fucking cojones on her, some eggs on her. She will say anything. 21. When we worked at Lucky Change together, there was a new manager. And the new manager was like, so there were these girls who worked at the downtown, the downtown location and then girls who joined at the midtown location. Me and Thorgy were amongst the girls who joined at the midtown location.
A
The new.
C
And this new manager came in. Her name was Bobsy. Bob C said, I'm going to interview all the new girls and make sure that they. To see if you guys are good enough to stay on staff here. And then Thorgy said, who new? What new girls? He's like, I'm interviewing the new girls. And Thorgy said, in front of everyone. Thorgy said, I'm not new. You're new. This is your first day. You're the new girl. And we were like, oh, my, what is happening? And she kept the job. Let's say you're new. You're new. The you think this is. And then one time there was this queen from Boston who came to the Ritz with like. With. With violins. The exclamation. And. And someone else. Anyway, shoot, this queen who came and she did this, like, Rihanna number with his umbrella and stuff. And Leopold used to collect the tips. And then Leah would collect your tips, Then she'd hand them to you very. And Leah, I never. There was never any understanding that she would. She never stole anything from me or anyone else. Leah would collect her tips and she'd give them to you. And then this queen was like, these. These aren't all my tips. These are not all my tips. I made at least. I made at least $200 there. And Thor, she was like, well, that's not true. She goes, I made at least $200. And she goes, okay, let me double check something real quick. Bob, how much did you make? You did two numbers. How much did you make? I was like, like, 60 bucks. She was like, okay, Ezra, how much did you make? You did two numbers. How much did you make? She goes, about 60, 50 bucks. She goes, okay, how about you over here? How much did you make, Lily Heavenly? I did one number. I made about 30 bucks. She goes, okay, so let me get this clear. You think in your one number you made more money than Bob, Azra, Lily Heavenly, and myself combined on your one little Rihanna number. Then she was like, take your tips. I was like,
A
third.
C
You was like, third. You, like. Gather around, Gather around, everyone. Let's talk to this bitch with the
A
damn dreadlock swinging too.
C
Thorgy is hilarious. Anyway, shout out Thorgy.
A
Let's go on to the next queen who was one of the villains of season eight. Derrick Barry, who I have come to love. Okay? Truly love her, Derek Berry. Now, I didn't love her on season eight because she was fighting with my best friend. And I was like, I don't like that white, ugly, pasty, fucking Britney Spears boogie bitch.
C
Jesus Christ.
A
And I didn't like her. But then I met Derek. But then. But then Derrick Barry and I did a gig together at Feathers Club, Feathers in New Jersey. I was hosting the show, and they brought Derrick Barry on, and I was like. And I was like, derrick, everything Bob said about you is not true. You're actually really nice, and I really like you. And she was like, oh, thank you, Monet. You know, Bob and Derrick and I became friends since then, and I've been.
C
I have watched everything I said about her. What did I. I love Derrick Barry.
A
I'm not gonna say it on the podcast. I'm not gonna get into it. That's not. That's your business. And. But anyway, here's what I lie.
C
When they go. When they go. And then she's like, you couldn't make up the lie fast enough. And then she was like, da, da, da, da, da da.
A
And so I love Derrick Barry. Derrick Berry is great. She is such a great Britney Spears impersonator. Like, I seen Derek videos of fucking Derrick Barry, and you cannot tell me it was not Britney Spears. Like, I thought it was Britney fucking Spears. I'm not even saying this for the fucking camera. Like, she looks so good.
C
In terms of drag impersonators, I'm gonna say the top ones for me are Chad Michaels as Cher, Derrick Berry as Britney Spears. Honestly, back in the day, I don't think judge anymore. But back in the day, delighted to be here as Adele. There are moments where I was like, damn, this bitch looks like Adele. And even the performance, everything, she was Adele down. But her name was. At the time, her name was, I think was Roxy Seymour Cox.
A
Delighted to be. I didn't see this. Delighted to be here there was delighted to be here.
C
She listens to the podcast, so continue.
A
Well, delighted to be. And Pixie had a show together. They had a duet show together at Hardware Bar. And then they would have this show. And then delighted to be used. She used to do, like, sometimes male impersonation. And Pixie would get so upset when she would do her all and get this amazing fucking look together. And they all say they're going to do impersonations. And Dilata Tabir would show up as a man because he would be like. He would be so heated that this
C
bitch, she did Bob Ross and Ozzy Osbourne, right? Yeah.
A
And she wants that. She did Wears Waldo. I remember walking into Hardware when I tell you Pixie was heated. She was. Her blood was fucking boiling. She was like, I just. Like, just over. I mean, I'll be mad too, if we did an impersonation. Show. And I spent two hours to look like Whitney Houston. And you come in here with just a curly wig on a glass.
C
Yeah, we saw you look like Whitney Houston. That took you two hours. That took two hours.
A
Everybody on mute.
C
What did you spend. What did you spend after you did your makeup? What did you do with the other hour and 30 minutes?
A
Hey, you show up with a red and white striped sweater, some glasses, and a blue hat on, talking about you some. Where's my Waldo? I would be mad, too.
C
I like. I like delighted, I think delighted. Oh, we're not talking about delight.
A
Yeah, that's Mike Tyson, baby.
C
Jacob just pulled up a picture, right? Wait, what?
A
I look just like Mike Tyson. What do you.
C
All these queens doing hours of work, and you come in as Mike Tyson.
A
Excuse me. I had to draw that tattoo on my face.
C
Monet said if I put in hours and hours and you come in with a little bit of glasses, I had
A
to draw that tattoo.
C
Mona can wake you up with this.
A
I put a gold tooth on. I blackened my. I made my Gap. What are you talking about?
C
And delighted put on some glasses. She put on some makeup. She wore a sweat Monet's. Like, I put on a jacket, I put on a gold tooth. You act like that took you a long time.
A
It did. The tattoo is hard to do, but
C
that tattoo is not good. And you know it's not.
A
You know, every time we have talked about your work on Drag Race, I have praised you, and then you take every chance that you can to.
C
I'm looking at Ra' Jah as Madam Monet, as Mike Tight. I got dressed up as Raja, just
A
stuck a prosthetic on her face.
C
I'm screaming. Jacob is gathered. Yeah, gather her, Jacob.
A
See, y', all, this overserved ass, this podcast, these. They always team up on me. And, yeah, thank you for all the monation and sometimes the boba heads. Let's see. You don't need.
C
You don't need them today, baby. You're gonna need. You don't need the monation today. Y' all better rise up strong, honey. Anyway, Derrick, I love her. Go see Derrick Barry in Vegas. She true. I. I'm gonna dub this now. In my opinion, Derrick Bear is the queen of Vegas. Fight your mama. No, fight your mom.
A
Hot Chocolate is the queen of Vegas. How dare you?
C
Oh, Hot Chocolate is the Queen of Vegas. You're right, actually. I told Derrick Bear, I said Hot Chocolate's Queen of Vegas. You're the next in line. I actually did tell you. You're right. You ate that hot chocolate is. Larry Edwards ate it up and eat
A
it and gave it back.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go on to one of the most beloved queens and one of the best performers of RuPaul's Drag Race. RIP. To the amazing and wonderful Ms. Chi Chi DeVane.
A
He looks so beautiful in his promo picture.
C
Do you have any stories about Peachi Devane?
A
Yes. So again, Bob, you know, season eight, like, I went to the stage 48 premiere. What do? Like, the premiere party at New York city at stage 48. And all the girls. I'm upstairs with all the girls who I first met Kim and Naomi for the first time. And then they all. They were like, moving them downstairs to, like, introduce them to the audience. And then it was just myself, Chi Chi. So one of the. I think Derek and like, my friend and someone else's friend upstairs, and she was waiting for the next elevator. And I was like, chichi, girl, you. Cause you're just sitting on the couch while the rest of us were standing, waiting for the elevator. I was like, girl, the elevator about to come. I was like. I was like, you need any help? She's like, girl, I ain't even took.
C
And then she good. I ain't even tug.
A
She just got out the elevator and went to the thing. I was like, work.
C
I mean, she is from Ratchet City in Louisiana. She's from Shreveport, Louisiana. And truly, truly amazing. I mean, just Google Chichi Devain backflips. I told you. I look up Chichi Devain and Kenny Davenport performing together. Truly, truly a life changing experience. Even watching on the Internet. I didn't even see it in person. I saw on the Internet. She was so sweet, so kind. Everyone loved her. Everyone loved her, truly. She passed away of scleroderma, which is a disease that can affect your immune system and your joints.
A
Yeah.
C
And I just remember her like some of her last post on his. On. I think I remember her last post. It was really sad. It was like she was like, y', all, I'm gonna beat this. Don't worry about this. And then the next thing then. And then she passed on us. So I just really love Chichi Devine so much. Shout out to Chi Chi and Chichi's family and friends. Just a great queen. A great queen. I remember one time we were sitting backstage and Chichi said, dang, Naomi, look like she got some good butt. I will never forget that. Naomi, like, she got some. We were sitting backstage for the perfect challenge. Name was wearing a little
A
G string stones.
C
No, it's a jeans, but the jeans, like, ass cheeks were hanging out. Her little baby cakes are hanging out. She was, like, dying. You like, you got some good butt. She has so many quotes. I just remember. I just love her. I love Chichi the man. Shout out to Chi Chi. And by the way, Chichi was a really good singer and songwriter, by the way.
A
Yeah, she's a great singer. She sang on a Christmas tour one time, and I was like, oh, my God, she can, like, really sing.
C
She has so many fucking talents. And speaking of good butt, we should go on to the. The queen with the good with the good booty.
A
I love this woman so much. Bob and I have not mince words about our love and appreciation for Naomi fucking Smalls. Just so, like, effortlessly beautiful and cool and, like, fierce. And she's just. I just love Naomi Smalls. Like, she is. Naomi is the same every time you meet her. Like, she is never anything phony, never anything fake. She's always down to clown, always down to help. And she, like, when we did my makeup to be blue, that blue thing, she just happened to FaceTime me, and she's like, what y' all doing? I was like, bob, we're doing this thing. And she's like, you guys need help? And Naomi came over to Bob's apartment and sat there for five hours gluing stones to my head because we. Because we were like, hey, we need help with this. She just came over. Just drop what she was.
C
And if you want to look at that video of her doing the Pit Stop with Bianca, that was the next morning.
A
Yes. She had to do that the next day when she was in the neon.
C
And she looks stunning. She's truly. They have her height wrong on this thing. She's not. She's not 6 foot 5. She is tall, but she's not 6 5. She's like 6, 3, 64 at the most, but not 6' 5. But she is truly legs for days from Redlands, California. And she's been on. I mean, obviously she came back for All Stars. And how was competing with her? We both had the pleasure of competing with Naomi.
A
Great.
B
This.
A
When Naomi and I locked in on our friendship doing All Stars 4 with her, I just fell in love with her because she was just so graceful and just so good. And honestly, I'm gonna say this. I said it before in Naomi was robbed of so many wins on All Stars 4. Naomi should have won the Jersey justice challenge. We all know that. And Naomi, there was another one before that she should have won. But they just Like Snatch Game. Snatch Game. They just played in her face. Like, Naomi was so good. She was so funny.
C
I coached Cheryl. Snatch Game. Naomi is amazing. She should. Honestly, she should have tied with Trinity. She was robbed of that. One time I was pitching this cartoon I was trying to sell.
A
Why are you such a mean person?
C
To me, it's fun. One time I was pitching this cartoon I was trying to sell, and Kim Chi agreed to do a voice on the show. And we were in this meeting, I think it was with hbo, and then I was like, we have voices attached. Kim Chi is a great. Is a queen. We have attached to do a voice. And late in the meeting said, I love Kimchi. She was robbed. And I was like, oh.
A
She said, what we all be thinking.
C
I said, oh, okay. I love nanny. I mean, it's truly. I just love. I love this queen. She is. She. And she's so y'. All. Honestly, I. I don't think you all have a understanding of how it truly professional. Naomi Smalls is.
A
Yeah, very professional.
C
Truly a through and through professional. For realsies. For realsies.
A
I love that so much. She's so gracious, so fierce.
C
Let's hop on over to Kimberly Chai Te Latte, a girl who is eating the makeup game with her remarkable makeup brand Kimchi.
A
Kimchi.
C
Kimchi, yeah. Kimchi is from. She hails from wonderful Chicago and. Or Michigan, actually. By. Wait, wait. She hails from la. By way of Chicago. By way of. By way of South Korea. By way of Michigan.
A
Wait, why is he going to order? What?
C
Because that's the order she moved around in.
A
She was in Michigan. She went to South Korea. Then she came to Chicago and she went to la. Yeah, I didn't know that.
C
And she was. And Kimchi was a staple in the Chicago drag scene. Like, she was a staple. Her. I would say some of the staples from the Drag Race world are her. Shay the Vixen.
A
T. Rex.
C
T. Rex. I mean, from the drag race world. Oh, her Shay the Vixen, Naysha Lopez, Kamora and even. And not even. And Silky. Not Meganosh.
A
Not even.
C
Well, but. Because Silky's not really from Chicago. Silky's from Mrs. Like, from Mississippi. So, like, I think she was in Chicago for a while.
A
So are you. Are you stable? The Clayton county drag scene?
C
I don't know that, but. I don't know that, but I think that Silky did drag and drag. I think I didn't do drag in Atlanta. I mean, I didn't star drag there. And also Dita Ritz as well.
A
Dita Ritz. Yeah. Yeah. Kimchi is great. Kimchi is one of the queens. We said it before, like, she was one of the queens going to Drag Race who had so many followers. So, like, a lot of people knew about Kimchi before she got on the show. She's also. So back in the day, Drag Race used to do these lifts. Oh, not Drag Race fans used to do these, like, lists. They were voting on who you want to see on Drag Race next. And Kimchi was always at the top of it with, like, because she has so many followers and so many. Like, before Drag Race, Kimchi had, like, 50,000 followers, which was, like, wild. Back in the day, like, oh, my God, you have 50,000 followers. It was crazy.
C
Yeah. And she is, I mean, one of the best makeup artists to ever come out of RuPaul's Drag Race. And insanely, she is a fucking fierce competitor. Y'. All. Y' all don't get it. Kimchi is a. A fucking fierce competitor. She was truly tough to go up against.
A
True. I remember that acting challenge, the Ruko's Empire. I just remember Kim Chi's wig. It was, like, an asymmetrical, like, blunt. It was weird.
C
I'm like, she's a fist competitor. When they was like, but with a shitty wig on.
A
Kimchi is one of my closest friends in drag out of Drag Race girls. And Kimchi comes over Dr. For game nights often. I go over to hers often. I love Kim a lot. Kim is really funny. She's also very sweet and just very kind person, like Naomi. Also just very down and, like, always, like, just a great friend to have. I love Kim.
C
Fun fact about Kimchi, Kimchi has a big ass head.
A
Like, a physically large head with a real big head. Kim Chi, with a real big head,
C
with a really big head. She talks about it all the time. She. She. She actually. If you're able to get a large wig from Wigs and grace the company, it's because they made that wig custom for Kimchi's head. That's a fact. They made their wigs custom for Kimchi's head, and now they have large wigs because of Kimchi.
A
Also, the way Kim describes and talks about food, I think it's like, I was like, oh, yeah, girl. I went to. I went to Jacob's Pickle and had that sandwich, and she's like, no. She's like, no, Monet, you have to try the this. Like, it's so buttery and creamy, and the way that you. When you bite it and how the chicken begins to melt. And with it. And with it, the butter, the biscuit is always so fluffy and just right. And it's always just perfectly cooked. It is Chef's kiss. I feel like Chef's has a great
C
way of recommending food to you based on what you like. Like, she'll recommend. It's not based on her own thing. Like, she. Like, she'll hear what you say, then she'll recommend something. And it's always. It's always spot on. She could have been the Keith Lee. She could have been the gay Keith Lee.
A
She could be the gay Kim.
C
She still can't Sang Young.
A
But how many. How many things you gonna be successful at?
C
You know what? You're right. She's done enough.
A
She's done enough.
C
Monday. We have time for one more. Do we have time for this one?
A
I think we have time for this one. We have about. We have about 45 seconds. Let's get it done. Bob the Drag Queen. Bob the Drag Queen won season eight. And please stop moving around your fucking camera. Stop, please. Bob the Drag Queen is obvious. You know, obviously y' all know the co host of this podcast and my bestest friend. When Bob got on season eight, New York City was very excited. We know when she disappeared from all seven, 11 of her gigs and she was going to all knew that she was on the show. And we all knew you would do very well, and we were all very proud of you. You made New York very proud. And you were stapled in a New York City drag scene and you did that. Girl.
C
I don't like that. They don't have New York City anywhere on my little profile. That's weird to me.
A
Yeah, that is weird. But this is what it is.
C
But they don't even have Atlanta. This is this. I mean, I was born in Atlanta. I was in my home. I was born in Columbus. I would say my hometown is Atlanta. And then I would say there should be some in New York City in here somewhere. I lived in New York City longer than any city I've ever lived in,
A
but they don't have that. The things are birthplace, hometown, and location. Your birthplace is.
C
No, go back to Cam's. Go back to Cam's. Kim got fucking. See, Kim probably fucking knows somebody over here. Kim got two hometowns. She got Michigan and South Korea. Wasn't even born in South Korea. Fake ass South Korean. And then she got Chicago and Los Angeles. So who Kim know over at the Drag Race Wiki page you anyone?
A
You can go in there and change it right now.
C
Well, Then change it for me. Damn. Because you know how to do it. It's so easy. Do it.
A
Well, it says I gotta sign. I don't have a drag race wiki account. You gotta sign in.
C
Oh, I'm not worth signing up for a wiki account.
A
Ain't your little Wade from Kim possible there? Make him do it. Make Genki do it.
C
I don't make Jacob do things. I asked Jacob to do things. That's how I really. I don't know how you and. I don't know how you and. You and Andy yell at each other and scream back and forth. Me and Jacob, we communicate and talk.
A
We do that here.
C
Over here. We hold hands and talk.
A
Y' all do not hold hands. Please.
C
We hold hands sometimes, yeah.
A
Not when y' all talking.
C
I mean, Jacob, first of all, you
A
and Jacob, I did not even do pda. You said many times that you're not about pda. PDA is holding hands in public.
C
Okay, I didn't say in public. We hold hands in the privacy of our own home.
A
So y'. All. Y' all just. Y' all just be sitting in your house holding hands.
C
Sometimes Jake will hold my hand, but Jacob also. I don't. So Jacob's hands are small. So when we hold hands like this, it kind of hurts my fingers. I can't explain it, but because of the. My finger, my hands are so much larger than his. So I prefer that Jacob holds my thumb. What?
A
In the Iron Giant,
C
Jacob will hold my thumb. Or if we're in a car, if we're in a backseat of an Uber, I'll put my hand underneath his. Like, I'll just put my hand face down underneath his leg.
A
Y' all are such an odd couple. Wait, why?
C
Which. Oh, oh, oh. We got my little Kim Possible popping off over here. And now the Drag race wiki is. Oh, is it. It's not updated yet for me, but
A
you know, Jacob, you ain't. You ain't. You are. Listen, Jacob might work hard, but the. The. The. The World Wide Web work harder.
C
There it is. Yes, honey, exactly. Hometown. New York. Motherfucking city. Brooklyn. Stand the up,
A
by the way, New York. You're from Manhattan.
C
I just like Brooklyn. Stand the fuck up. It's just fun. So there's a point in the show where I go where I used to go. And I need you all to put your hands together for the icon, the innovator, the regulator. She's the only one makes the noise for Madonna. We were in Italy. I learned to say it in Italian. I told you about that one already, right? I said, Milano, Lico and Ali. No Vetriti. La Regina Tutti. Super Madonna. And then Madonna was like, we got back to America. She was like, we rehearsed. She goes, I don't come up with something new. Like, I'm sick of hearing that. Come up with, like, different. Different things. So last night at Barclays, I said, brooklyn, stand the fuck up. So there's videos of me going, brooklyn, stand the fuck up. She's not just the icon, she's not just the innovator. She's your mother. Make some noise for Madonna. But it was very fun to yell, brooklyn, stand the fuck up.
A
On stage.
C
That was really fun for me.
A
You know, each borough has, like. They're like, rapturous, right? Obviously, Brooklyn, we got. Who's that?
C
Allen?
A
Hold on. Brooklyn got. Brooklyn got Kim. Queens got Nikki. Bronx got Cardi. Manhattan. I will say Azealia from Azealia Banks. Yeah, Azealia Banks. But yes, Staten island don't got nobody.
C
Well, Tomas is a great rapper. Tomas is a great non binary rapper. Who. They're underground. They're underground. They're very underground.
A
I mean, yeah, Big Ange.
C
Big Ang's not a rapper.
A
She. She had a. She had a song. Technically,
C
Statinoe. Well, maybe. Maybe Megami will. Maybe Megami will release it. Will release a track
A
anyway. Do you have anything you want to say about yourself? I'm very. Listen, I'm very proud of your work on Repulse Drag Race, Bob. And, you know, when you won, I remember standing up, standing at Pisces Bar because you didn't tell him. Well, you didn't know either. Well, he didn't know.
C
I did not know. You've won Drag Race. You know that.
A
We don't know.
C
And I knew you lying.
A
I knew.
C
And go back and look at the footage of Monet looking pissed off that she died and tell me her good. And then compare that to her acting challenge and tell me if you think her acting skills are that good.
A
Anyway, when you won, I remember sitting at Pieces Bar downtown on a Monday night, and I was just crying at the bottom. A piece of bar. When you won. Because I was so proud of the work you did on that season.
C
I appreciate that I don't have anything to add to myself because it feels unfair. No one else got that. No one else got to contribute about themselves on the podcast. So I just. I'll refrain.
A
And when it's my turn, give me that same fucking energy I just gave you.
C
We'll do that. When we get to all stars. But on 10, I'm gonna give the 10 review. Yeah, yeah, big dog on 10, we're giving the season 10 review, baby.
A
Obviously, we're not doing All Stars because
C
that would be doubling up, but we maybe should. Maybe we should throw in. We should do the Vivienne at some point because she was on Drag Race in America.
A
Yeah, we can do that. We can do the Vivienne, the Viviana.
C
All right, Monet. We got through a whole season. Well, we got through a part of a season because we were already. We were already two in.
A
That's what I want to know. I be coming in here with full intent to do this. You love derailing us and tangilizing our fucking experience.
C
Go back to the beginning of the part podcast. Y' all just listen to Monet. Go back to the beginning of the podcast.
A
Hyper focusing on me having one drink at the bar earlier today.
C
Okay, were you overserved or was it one drink?
A
One drink.
C
How big was this One drink?
A
One drink. It was a big go. It was a big drink, Mon.
C
You will lie on these people. These people get their whole business shut down because of you. Pink. Pink Iceland about to get this bar. Whole bar about to get shut down. Monet telling people these, selling big gulps and 1 gallon drinks. The shows were boring. You will fall asleep. You'll be overserved.
A
Oh, my God, you're so sweet.
C
This is a crazy. Not only that, you could have just had a drag show. You called out the specific queen. You're like, she's from Portland. She's been there for 20 something years. We know whose boring ass show you were at. This is crazy.
A
Anyway, I love my time here in Iceland. Shout out to beer mouth. Shout out to Ava. Shout out to Hana. Shout out to a little too much beer.
C
Beer. How about enough beer?
A
And it's been. I've had such a great time. I can't talk about Iceland enough. It was such a great time. I love pink Iceland.
C
We can't talk about without flurrying. That's for sure.
A
I'm going to move into Iceland. I had such a good time.
C
Not that you'd remember. All right, y', all, we'll be back about. We'll be back. And we'll be kicking off with season nine of RuPaul's Drag Race on the next installation. And of course, quick reminder to you, all we will be reviewing has a big no. We will be. We will be talking about. We will be. We're talking about RuPaul's Drag Race. We'll be reviewing season 16 over on our YouTube page, but we'll be reviewing Untucked exclusively. We'll be reviewing Untucked exclusively on the Patreon I. You are good. Say goodbye to everyone.
A
Bye, guys.
Release Date: December 18, 2023
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
This episode continues the duo’s ongoing “Every RuGirl” review series, focusing on the queens of RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 8. Bob and Monét blend hilarious personal anecdotes, sharp memories, and inside scoops as they unpack the cast queen-by-queen, reflecting on the unique contributions, controversies, and legacies of each performer. The episode is laced with trademark banter: playful arguments, revealing shade, and loving praise—especially for former season-mates and NYC nightlife icons.
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The rest of the episode is organized by queen, with stories and observations as Bob and Monét reminisce.
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The episode is fast-paced, shady, and loving, brimming with inside jokes and nostalgia. Bob and Monét mix affectionate praise and comedic roast, ensuring listeners get both heart and humor. The dialogue flows with characteristic intimacy and irreverence, welcoming listeners into their ever-entertaining Drag Race universe.
This episode is rich in Drag Race history, personal tales, and drag culture insights, making it accessible both for long-time fans and newcomers interested in learning more about pivotal figures from Season 8. Each queen is treated not only as a TV competitor but as a vibrant part of drag nightlife.
Bob and Monét will continue their “Every RuGirl” installment with Season 9 in the next episode, promising even more deep dives and jokes to come.
“Let me tell you something about Bob the Drag Queen: If it’s not his queer business, he don’t want to see us succeed.” – Monét X Change [05:57]