The One About Every RuGirl (Part XIII)

Summary

Sibling Rivalry – "The One About Every RuGirl (Part XIII)"

Date: April 22, 2024
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change

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Episode Overview

Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change dive into their ongoing series "Every RuGirl," where they give their legendary irreverent take on each queen from RuPaul’s Drag Race season-by-season. This installment covers several queens from Season 13, with the duo’s trademark banter, roasting, and personal recollections. Along the way, they go off on delightful tangents about underwear returns, touring stories, queer nightlife, and the nuances of New York drag herstory.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Opening Banter & Underwear Debate (00:31–16:00)

Trying on Underwear and Sanitary Concerns

• Monét launches into a debate on why men’s swimwear doesn’t have hygienic liners like women’s (01:10).
• Bob is shocked people try on swimwear without keeping underwear on beneath:

  "You don’t go to the place and take your underwear off and then put the swimmer on. That’s disgusting." (02:41 - Bob)

• Monét wonders if returned underwear is sanitized and resold; Bob is adamant it's likely destroyed for sanitary reasons.

Research Interlude
Jacob (producer) tries to find answers live—reveals most underwear retailers won’t accept opened returns, but big sellers like Amazon are vague.

"Amazon is not incredibly transparent..." (08:44 - Jacob)

Merch & Custom Clothes Roasting

• Bob and Monét do a running bit about each’s merch and who hand-makes their own, with Bob touting his "House of Bob" line as uniquely crafted in LA.

  "Everyone who made these items by hand were paid good money to make them. They can support their families." (13:08 - Bob)

• Friendly back-and-forth about who really supports whom’s business, with Bob needling, "Would you like to support?" (15:24).

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RuGirls of Season 13

Kahmora Hall (16:06–21:14)

• Monét’s personal connection: Met Kahmora at Roscoe’s in Chicago in 2015, always regarded as "very stunning" and "a big name in Chicago." Shocked she went home so early.
• Bob’s drag herstory context: Not shocked based on her Drag Race performance ("No shade," 18:33), and points out Chicago queens going home early has precedent.
• Super Smash Bros.: Kahmora is “very, very good with Bayonetta” (19:03). Recalls intense Smash tournament.
• Kahmora's Bob Mackie Collection: Monét claims she has "the most original Bob Mackie gowns," Bob clarifies she has a big collection, but not sure if it’s the largest (20:38).

Joey Jay (24:52–28:35)

• Bob jokes: “Joey Jay is the first openly gay drag queen on RuPaul’s Drag Race.” (24:57, drily ironic)
• Self-aware: Joey’s entrance line was “filler queen,” which Monét finds self-defeating (27:04).
• Dance skills: Bob says Joey's a "particularly good dancer… wears wigs more now too." (28:28)

Tamisha Iman (29:45–31:51)

• Iconic in pageants: Bob gushes: “One of the most iconic queens in the pageant circuit... she is one of those Kennedy Davenport, Chi Chi Devayne... like, stunt queens.” (29:47)
• Past drama: Monét recounts their infamous online feud, since resolved at DragCon (30:29).
• Her daughter’s viral moment: The legendary “ceiling split” by Tandi Iman Duprée (31:01)
• Post-show: Now running/performing at a popular Vegas drag brunch.

Lala Ri (37:04–40:58)

• Look: Monét loves Lala’s All Stars 8 promo look: "It is so good. It's the best I think she's ever looked in Drag Race." (37:11)
• Personality: Known for being quiet and focused on the road; “quieter than a dormouse” (39:33).
• Performer: Bob’s mom used to book Lala in Atlanta, vouches for her reputation as a pro.

Elliot with 2 T's (41:13–43:46)

• Controversy: Bob says Elliot has an uneasy relationship with both fan base and fellow queens, often DMing queens after criticism (41:31).
• Drag Race stats: Sent Lala Ri home but was eliminated by Utica (42:20).
• Notable look: TS Madison loved a flamingo outfit others disliked:

  "TS Madison really loved this outfit… I just could not stand the flamingo one." (42:42)

Denali (43:46–45:56)

• Background: From Alaska but repped Chicago; main ice skating queen of Drag Race.
• Athleticism: "She is very athletic. Very, very impressive on the blades, for sure." (44:09)
• Work ethic: Monét shares Shay Couleé’s gym stories—Denali is "ripped" (44:25).
• Off-drag connections: Both want to ice skate with Denali for a drag collab video.

Tina Burner (49:33–58:19)

• NYC legend: Hosted “Tranimal” and was entrenched in the New York scene with Bob for years.
• Her branding: Dragged (pun intended) for being obsessed with a “red, orange, yellow, feel-the-burn” brand:

  "Everything had to be these colors... We got really tired of her really quick." (55:37 - Monét)

• Performance history: Bob claims Tina "kissed me in the mouth and my mouth went numb"—then gets into cocaine and ketamine as drag scene anecdotes.
• Post-show: Became a P-Town (Provincetown) queen, stars in a Hocus Pocus show.

Utica Queen (58:21–63:41)

• Best design look ever?: Bob states: "Utica had the best outfit that’s ever been made on Drag Race. Her sleeping bag [look] was the best one—can’t think of a single outfit that looked better." (59:14)
• Personality: Ultra-quirky—known for the infamous Bombed Roast (with Loni Love), delivering a wild fat joke and being epically read back. (60:31)
• Religious moments: Bob admits:

  "When I find out someone's religious, I kind of lose a little bit of respect for them. Is that horrible?" (62:47)

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Tangents, Memorable Quotes & Banter

On Merch and Drag Ethics

• Bob: "Mine are all handmade, honey... ethically produced, honey. Everyone who made these items by hand were paid good money to make them. They can support their families." (13:08)
• Monét, mocking: "You put your thick icon shorts in the same bag as the House of Bob!" (12:50)

The Great Underwear Debate

• Bob: "That panty liner... that's contact! So that's not more sanitary. Everyone’s putting it on, that’s touching everyone." (03:38)
• Monét: "Even thrift stores don’t accept underwear unless they’re brand new... but Amazon is this mammoth company, I’m sure they have a massive sanitizing situation." (09:47 / 10:08)

On Losing at Super Smash Bros.

• Bob: "You lied to your team and said Jacob did not scrub you across the Internet in front of over a thousand people. We have documented footage." (22:17)
• Jacob plugs the evidence: "If you're interested in seeing it? Go to YouTube... at 1:32:00 to see my match with Monet X Change." (24:24)

On Voyeurism/Exhibitionism & Drag Queen Sexcapades

• Monét: "She would come, she would sit there and pat her pussy and come before I get there. I was like, bitch, only one person is coming in this party, and it’s gonna be me." (01:10 & 69:23)
• Bob: "Are you into voyeurism or exhibitionism?" / "I’m more into voyeurism than I am into exhibitionism." (70:12)
• On apartments and public nudity:

  "I walk around my house naked all the time... but now, I need to remember, I can’t be walking around my house naked because people can fucking see." (71:47 - Monét)

On Drag History and New York Herstory

• Bob: "I wasn’t popular enough to get invited. I was a baby queen, for sure... Tina Burner used to date a porn star with a giant penis and he used to... in the bathrooms at Excess Lounge." (50:35–51:55, summarized)
• On branding queens:

  "The people who over brand... the reason why people were annoyed at Tina Burner was because she kept saying [her catchphrase]." (56:18 - Bob)

On Roasts and Iconic Moments

• Bob: "Utica had the best outfit that’s ever been made on Drag Race... that sleeping bag look is stunning." (59:14)
• On the infamous roast:

  "She made a joke about Loni Love not being a funny comedian while not being funny." (61:13–61:21)

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Notable Timestamps

• 00:54 – Episode’s true start & intro jokes
• 02:41–04:54 – Main underwear/sanitation debate
• 13:08–15:31 – House of Bob vs. Thick Icon shorts, ethics of handmade drag merch
• 16:06 – Start of Season 13 RuQueen Rundown
• 19:33 – Smash Bros. drag queen tournament stories
• 22:24 – [YouTube reference] Jacob vs. Monet in Smash
• 29:45 – Tamisha Iman intro and lore
• 37:04 – Lala Ri: All Stars 8 promo discussion
• 41:13 – Elliot with 2 T's: fanbase controversy
• 43:46 – Denali: ice-skating, athleticism, and Chicago shoutouts
• 49:33 – Tina Burner, New York drag herstory, and "feel the burn"
• 58:21 – Utica, best design wins, and roast infamy
• 69:23 – Monét’s cat, Colleen, and sexual interruptions
• 70:12 – Bob/Monét discuss voyeurism vs. exhibitionism
• 73:03–73:40 – Banter on moods and perceptions, leading to hilariously petty outro

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Tone & Language

• Candid, comedic, and unfiltered: Full of playful shade, direct opinions, and the hosts' signature chemistry.
• Lots of insider drag knowledge and inside jokes from the queer nightlife scene.
• Explicit language, adult topics—true to Sibling Rivalry’s reputation.
• Moments of genuine drag history nerding-out: New York circuit, drag family trees, and pageant legacies.

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Conclusion

This episode is a masterclass in comedic drag queen banter and Drag Race deep-dives. Bob and Monét not only run through the Season 13 cast with sharp wit, but also pepper in stories from their own drag journeys, backstage gossip, and the inner workings of drag queen life—on and off the main stage. Essential listening for Drag Race superfans and lovers of queer culture.

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For Further Listening

To watch the infamous Smash Bros. moment between Jacob and Monet, visit "Bob the Drag Queen and Peppermint Queer Smashdown" on YouTube:
Go to 1:32:00 for the match.

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This summary is intended as a complete, ad-free guide to the episode’s substance, maintaining the tone and color of the original discussion.

Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen

[Monet X Change]

and I'm Monet X Change.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this is sibling rivalry.

[Monet X Change]

On this week's episode, we talk about trying on underwear with no clothes on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We continue our series Every Ru Girl

[Monet X Change]

and we find out what made Bob say the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The way my memory is fucking impeccable. You hoes could never with me. We found out what made Monet say this.

[Monet X Change]

She would come, she would sit there and pat her pussy and come before I get there. I was like, bitch, only one person, only one bitch is coming in this party, and this is gonna be me. You know what I was thinking the other day? I was like, how come people, like, when guys try on stuff, we don't have underwear liners, but, like, when we try on underwear or something. Or when I go and try on male bathing suits, like tighty whities, there's no liners, but in women's underwear, there's liners. There's panty liners.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you mean, try on underwear? You try on underwear at a store and then put them back.

[Monet X Change]

Like swimming trunks? Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You said underwear for. You said underwear or swimwear. Do you try on underwear at the back?

[Monet X Change]

Swimming trunks are a type of, like, you don't have a thing to under it, like your balls and your penis and your buttholes, like under fabric. So I don't know what else to call it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But like, when you buy swimwear is not underwear, though. Swimwear is swimwear.

[Monet X Change]

When you buy women's swimwear or women's things where their. Or the vagina is on the thing, you. There are like little protective plastic things on it. But for like, men's stuff, there isn't that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I think that people. I don't think people try on underwear at all. And as far as swimwear goes, if

[Monet X Change]

you're wearing, I think places like La Perla, you try that on for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. I've never been to La Perla, but I don't think. I don't Think you can just try on underwear. But if you do try on underwear, you put it on over your underwear. So you can put on a Speedo, but you just put it on on top of your underwear. And if you're putting on, like trunks, like swim trunks, you just put them on on top of your briefs. You just wear them with your. You don't, you don't go to the place and take your underwear off and then put the underwear. Put the swimmer on. That's disgusting.

[Monet X Change]

The tighty whities. Like, you cannot put, like if, let's say you're wearing briefs or you're wearing. Or you're wearing, like, boxers, you can't put a Speedo on top of your. You won't see the fit. It won't make sense when you're like, right. You don't, you know, you're not getting a. You're not getting an accurate fit of the thing if you put it on over your. Your boxers. That's weird.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I think you just kind of. Well, for me, I just kind of either use my imagination, but I do think that it is unsanitary to not wear underwear and try on a bathing suit and put it back. That. That is not sanitary.

[Monet X Change]

It's not sanitary, which is why I'm saying why don't. Because the women's do. Women do. There is that plastic thing that you buy. It looks like a tampon. Not a tamponal. What's a paddle? It's like a clear plastic thing with a black ring around it. It looks like a pad and it's a sticky thing. It was to put that on the thing or not. It's on the clothes. And when that's off, you know. You mean that you, you know that that protective thing is on and someone has worn it before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I don't think, I don't think that. I mean, I don't work in a department store. I've never worked in retail once in my life. But I do not think you're allowed to try on underwear or swimwear without underwear. That is unsanitary. And I have been to places where they are like, oh, you can try it on, but you have to put it on over your underwear. And they make it really clear. So I think that if you do. I think that if you are a. No matter what generals you have, if you go to an establishment, you put on clothes without underwear. That is unsanitary and probably shouldn't do that because that, that, that panty liner, that little thing everyone's Putting it on their. Everyone who tries it on is putting that, that contact. That's contact. So that's not. That's not more sanitary. Everyone who tries it on, that's touching everyone.

[Monet X Change]

This thing, the thing there is to let you know that it hasn't been done before. Like that, that plastic thing is to let you know that it hasn't been done before. So what I'm saying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, but, but that's, that's. That has been purchased. So what I'm saying is if you try it on and it has the plastic thing, you're like, I don't want them. They don't throw them away, they put them back. And then someone else tries on the exact same pair. You're not supposed to do that. You can't try on swimwear, that. Underwear.

[Monet X Change]

But that. So like, okay, so like when you, when you order swimwear and you get it delivered to your house, ASOs or whatever, and you try it on. Oh, I don't like that. You send it back. So someone has tried on those fucking panties before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, no. When you send underwear back, they're not supposed to. They're supposed to go out of rotation. Like there are certain things that you send back. You can send things back and have them not get used again. Like, that includes electronics, food. You can send. You can send back a toothbrush and they will give your money back. It doesn't get recycled. The toothbrush doesn't go back. If you, if you buy like an Oraquick and, And you don't like it, you can send it back. But it doesn't get. Someone doesn't like a, like a test. Not earthquake, sorry, Sonicare. You can order a Sonicare.

[Monet X Change]

You gotta write for the HIV test. You don't like it and I'm gonna send it back. So what else? Do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't like my results. No, you can, you can order a Sonicare and be like, oh, I don't like this, and you send it back, but someone else does not get your Sonicare. It just goes. It just gets thrown away.

[Monet X Change]

I think they don't get the toothbrush, but they probably refurbish the actual.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

The.

[Monet X Change]

The unit. Not. Cause the toothbrushes are detachable. So I would assume they.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think that's true. That's not how that works. You're not getting an old Sonic. I can almost. I haven't done any research, but I'm willing to promise you that you're not

[Monet X Change]

getting an Oscar for us. Can you pull up some they probably

[Bob the Drag Queen]

do recycle the plastics and the metals maybe, but I can. I'm. I'm willing to bet you a lot of money that they're not, they're not giving you someone else's Sonicare base.

[Monet X Change]

And I don't know how I feel about the underwear. Maybe they may. I don't. I don't think they're. I don't think ever. All the underweighted people try on and send back. They dispose of them. I think that they probably sanitize them and they replastic them and they go back into their. I don't think they destroy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're not, you're not allowed on this because when you, when you go to a place that has underwear or Speedos, they always say you can put them on over your under. You can't just go in there and put on underwear and try. You can't try on underwear, especially without underwear on. You can't put on a.

[Monet X Change]

But I'm saying if you order something on online and you get it, I don't think. And you don't like it, or when you send it back, I don't think they destroy it. I think they probably sanitize the thing and then they put the plastic thing back on and it goes back into circulation. I don't think they destroyed. That would be. That would be. I mean, again, we already have ridiculous amounts of waste on this planet, but that would be even more wasteful.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I don't know. I don't think they do that. And I don't know what you want to tell you. I don't think that's. I think that there are certain things that just because of sanitary reasons, even though it's wasteful, you just can't do it. There are certain things you just can't reuse and, and even if it's wasteful, you just can't do it. You just. Because it's against the law.

[Monet X Change]

Jiggle. Going to look it up. See, see if you can find. See what you can find.

[Jacob]

That's a hard one. There's not a lot of data out there. And all like all the Google searches that come up first are like people trying to return their Sonicares. And there's so much that, that it's not going to be a quick search for me, so I'm going to keep on looking.

[Monet X Change]

But wait, wait. You said these are the reasons that people are trying to return them, but they won't take them back.

[Jacob]

People are like, oh, like I'm trying. I want to return my Sonicare and like, like does the warranty work after two years? Like that's what's coming up on Google when I'm trying to look into it. So I'm going to keep looking but I don't know if I'm going to actually get you your answer by the end of the show.

[Monet X Change]

Look up the underwear. Not just on a care. I'm curious. I'm more curious about the underwear. I'm like that seems wild. Like I'm concerned that you're trying on

[Bob the Drag Queen]

underwear without underwear policies.

[Monet X Change]

Say it again, Jacob.

[Jacob]

Like a lot of underwear shops have like no return policies.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well that's what I was saying.

[Monet X Change]

Well so it's on like Amazon, right? Someone Amazon that it's so easy to order these things and they come. I wonder if Amazon will burns all of them and destroys them or they just re. Or they sanitize them and put them back in circulation. I'm curious.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you think, you think they sanitize them?

[Monet X Change]

I think they sanitize them for the back in the circulation. I would. I would reckon. I would. I would. That's what I want to believe in my heart.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Does that sound, does that sound, does that sound sanitary to you?

[Jacob]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

To sanitary.

[Jacob]

So depending on the condition of the returned item, there are several paths it can take. The vast majority of returns are resold as New Orleans or used underwear.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That doesn't mean underwear, Monet. That's all that's clothes. That doesn't mean it's a underwear. Let Jacob keep reading.

[Jacob]

Donated or donated.

[Monet X Change]

Wait Jacob, is this underwear or just clothes?

[Jacob]

This is just things in general. Amazon is not incredibly transparent on like

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet was associated with that. Monet was like got him but nigga,

[Monet X Change]

you don't know either the fuck.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you was like uh huh.

[Monet X Change]

Because they said the vast majority. The vast majority. So but just by that I mean the majority clear.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If it was everything but underwear, that would still be the vast majority, wouldn't it?

[Monet X Change]

This is true. But we don't. You don't know that. Yeah, I mean I don't understand.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't understand what you are. What you're what hill you're willing to die on. It just doesn't sound sanitarian. And it sounds like it's against an OSHA violation of some sort to rub your pussy and your dick and your anus across a item of clothing and then send it back and then have someone scrub it a little bit and then resell it.

[Monet X Change]

Even thrift store. You think, you think they're scrubbing it a little bit? They're sanitizing it like for real.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Even secondhand stores don't accept underwear unless they're brand new. Even secondhand stores do not accept underwear unless they are brand new. And same with bathing suits. Secondhand store thrift stores, Goodwill, Salvation Armor, they do not accept any bathing suits or any underwear unless they're in the original packaging. Yeah, you can't sell.

[Monet X Change]

You've been rubbed on like Buffalo Exchange. Again, it's not a mom and pop so that they're a chain but something like Amazon that is this mammoth of a company. I'm sure they have a massive sanitizing situation that they sanitize things to put it back into circulation. They even changing their return policy so you can't order shit and send it back anymore because probably because people have been doing shit like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've never rubbed my anus on anything and sent it back. I can't speak for you. Also another thing is too, when, when you look at the. There are things you can send back even if they're like used up. For example, you could use half a tube of lip gloss and send it back. They're not going to repurpose that lip gloss. They just throw it away. They're not going to pour the rest of the lip gloss into the vat and then mix it all up. They're not going to wash out the bottle and reuse it. They're just going to throw it away. I have it on the bear mind. Amazon is a fulfillment order place. They do not actually make their own products.

[Monet X Change]

So Amazon isn't Amazon basics that they make their own product.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Amazon does make certain things but most of the time Amazon is fulfilling order. So Amazon makes like yeah, the Alexa certain, there's certain Amazon brand stuff. But like if you order an iPhone from Amazon and Amazon is not, they're just fulfilling someone else's order, they're just taking an iPhone from these people and then giving it to you from there. So Amazon wouldn't be doing any of the sanitation process because they're just taking it from this person and giving it to that person. They're not actually clothes.

[Monet X Change]

Notice Amazon has a whole lot of basics. They have shirts, underwear, bathing suits.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They also have things they, they have those like they sell Nike and they sell Adidas and they sell obviously.

[Monet X Change]

But I'm saying in the spirit basically where we're talking about underwear and clothes. Amazon has a entire fleet of basics that they do of every type of thing. Hats, T shirts, the dress you're wearing. They make a lot of basics.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all this is custom. This is literally custom House of Bob. How dare you?

[Monet X Change]

Custom by who?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is custom House of Bob.

[Monet X Change]

Literally.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's only one of these in the world. Ms. Thing.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you know, I received my personal House of Bob sack I was supposed to be getting. You must have lost my address, because this cat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I gave Bianca hers. I gave Thorgy hers. I gave BB hers. Peppermint has hers. And, I mean, I don't mail them out myself, so maybe. Maybe yours is waiting for your pg. You got to go pick it up at the extra management office.

[Monet X Change]

What's Kennedy gonna tell me? Are you gonna tell me?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm telling you now.

[Monet X Change]

Also, you say you don't know, so I'm gonna go to Peg, and they're gonna be like, what are you talking about?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, they're probably like, oh, here you go.

[Monet X Change]

You want to verify that for me before I go all the way over there?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, you move when I mailed these. Girl, last time I mailed these out,

[Monet X Change]

you was living somewhere else.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It might be sitting over at your old.

[Monet X Change]

Don't tell my address.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Your old address, Monet.

[Monet X Change]

I know, but, girl, I still have stuff. Go there. So Edward Scissorhands made me a wig, and then Patty and I. You said his name. Edward says I made me a wig, and then.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, and real quick, I just want you guys to know that at House of Bob, we don't take your discarded clothes and. And sanitize them and ship them back. Whatever. Whatever. Monae changed over her merch. That's what her and her team do. We don't do that Over.

[Monet X Change]

Same what Bob not telling you. The same team that's putting the thick icon shorts in the bag. They put in the House of Bob and in the bags.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, first of all, mine are all. First of all, mine are all handmade. That's the difference between me and thick icon. Mine are all handmade, baby.

[Monet X Change]

Oh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where.

[Monet X Change]

Where in China?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Los Angeles. In Los Angeles, California. I want to be clear.

[Jacob]

They.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, the garments. The garments of a house bar were ethically produced, honey. Everyone who made these items by hand were paid good money to make them. They can support their families. They can support their families.

[Monet X Change]

Honey, can we. Can we talk to some of these people?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, actually, you can drop the addy. There's a lovely woman. There's a lovely woman named Natasha who I met through Mindy Lamore. Mindy Lamore connected me to Natasha. Natasha runs a. A warehouse downtown. It's not a warehouse. Like, it's actually a pretty small room of, like, maybe six to 10 different people who make the items. So she also does. If you look at Mindy Lamour's clothes, she Run Run makes a lot of Mindy Lamore's clothes too. Natasha also made the gigantic wall of fabric in the black music video. That big yellow wall. She sewed that entire thing together. She also did it for. We're here on the Jackson Jackson. The red Mississippi episode, the big red one. Because she has these. All these industrial sewing machines in a team who's paid nicely to make things. Can you say that?

[Monet X Change]

Yes, I can.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So who. Who sells the thick icon shorts? Can I get their names? Can I get the name. Can I get the name of the people who sell the thick icon shorts? Can I get their names, please? Wait.

[Monet X Change]

So wait, just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You said you can. I give the name of the people who make the icon shirts.

[Monet X Change]

Let's move on. For good reasons.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, but wait. I gave you the names. You can't give me the name. You said you can give me names.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. Patrick Meyer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it made for the United States? Patrick Meyer makes all the thick icon shorts.

[Monet X Change]

Not all of them, but he's made some.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're gonna move on.

[Monet X Change]

You're making up stuff.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Patrick has made thick icon shorts that have been sold to people.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, he has.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, let's keep. Let's keep moving on.

[Monet X Change]

The prototypes, baby. The prototypes. Patty made them. Prototype?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You sell prototypes?

[Monet X Change]

That's great. I did. To. To my close friends and family that wore them out. Like Andy. Andy Short. Andy Short.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You sold them to Andy. You made Andy buy the shorts. That's crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Because my man supports my business. My man isn't just. He's. He. He ain't free riding. My man supports me, honey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But do you want to support mine? Why are you asking for free clothes?

[Monet X Change]

You can support me because you said, yo, you give. I didn't ask for free. You said, hey, Monet, I have a thing for you. I made a thing for you. I was like, oh, I'll accept it. You are, bitch. I ain't asked.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you like to support.

[Monet X Change]

Sure. I support you anyways.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't.

[Monet X Change]

I don't mind supporting you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Go to the houseofbob.com but.

[Monet X Change]

And what do I put in, like, a custom order? Do I put in my measurements? How do I. How do we. Do you have, like, a form that I can get? Customs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We've done all of our customs. We're done with the custom orders. We've moved on to a new silhouette. This is our new silhouette. We've moved on.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I only want custom, so I guess I can't support next time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe. Maybe Patrick can make it for you.

[Monet X Change]

Maybe I will love that. Patty's ver. He can make everything. But do you know who can also make everything? Kahmora Hall.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, are we going to do this episode of them still? Like, with 15 minutes of not talking about the thing that they didn't talk about?

[Monet X Change]

Like, that has stopped us before. Okay, wait, really quick. Season 13. When the season 13 came out, the season 13 trailer came out, I was very excited because one of our New York City sisters was on it, and, you know, her season, she had a time. But anytime someone that we were close with in the city gets on Drag Race, I get very excited to see them on the show, which I have. I mean, you've had more opportunities than me. I've only had, like, one. No, two. Two people I've known have been on the show since I've been on the show, which is always very exciting for me. 3.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, yeah, sometimes I get excited. Sometimes I don't really know them that well. I mean, I knew. I know Tina Burner for a long. I've known Tina Burner for a long time, but some people that I just kind of know in passing, and I'm kind of like, oh, like, for example, I didn't know Kanye Muse before this season at all. All I knew is that she blocked me on Twitter. So I wasn't like, ooh, Kandy Muse. I was like, oh, she's a New Yorker. I guess that actually. And I don't really feel like a strong be like, oh, my God, my New York City sisters. I'm kind of like, I don't know this bitch. I would say it's kind of like going to a school, but, like, 10 years apart, like, we don't have a connection.

[Monet X Change]

Well, when we get to Tina, we'll talk more about Yalls connection, because I remember that connection very well. But the first queen eliminated from season 13 was the good old Kahmora Hall. Now, I knew Kahmora, so I've always said Roscoe's was the first gig. No, that's not true. What's the one in Splash in Florida? Panama City, Florida. Panama City, Florida. Yes. That was the first gig that ever flew me out, like, as a local queen, but Roscoe's was, like, very shortly thereafter, so. And the first gig I did, it was X. It was a party called xyz. They used to do at Roscoe's on Sundays, and. And Kamara hall was on the cast There. So I met her in, like, 2015. And Kamara has always been very stunning. Her drag has always been very immaculate. She's always. She always has very great clothes. And to see her on the show, I wasn't surprised to see her there, but I was surprised that she went home so early because she's like a. She's a big name in Chicago. Like, the girlies know who Kamara hall is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you know that she's Vietnamese?

[Monet X Change]

No, I did not know that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I guess I wasn't really shocked that she went home early because she didn't do a good job on the show. No Shade. And I don't know how much of her online presence has been about her performances. I will say that she's very good at Smash Brothers. She's very, very good at Smash Brothers, girl. And also, bear in mind, too, in my season, they sent home a Ms. Continental first. So a big name in Chicago being sent home is not as shocking to me as a Miss Continental being sent home first. Yeah, but she's very good at Smash Brothers.

[Monet X Change]

She banes. Who? Bayonetta, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, she's very, very good with Bayonetta. And we had a Smash tournament, and it came down to, I want to say, her versus Jacob. Jacob versus Kamora hall in the finales of this. Of the Smash tournament. Was me Monet? No. Was I in it? No, it was Mateo Nick, that queen Pudding bitch. Pudding. Yvie. Oddly. Kahmora Hall. Jacob and I think me and Pep were just doing the commentary. I don't think it's still. It's probably still on my twitch somewhere.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So shout out to Kamara Hall. She also. Doesn't she have the right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob scrubbed you and sent you home.

[Monet X Change]

That's not true. Kamara hall sent me home, not Jacob. Please, would I ever let Jacob send me the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob did send you home.

[Monet X Change]

He did not. It was Kamara Hall.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob serve you. Jacob, how did your memory serve you

[Jacob]

Kimchi and Monet home back to back?

[Monet X Change]

No, it was Kamara Hall.

[Jacob]

Okay, well, we can look at the footage.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, roll the roll. Exactly, exactly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We can look at the footage. I remember distinctively, Jacob scrubbing you. It was a fans for gathering Monet about Nina Sky. You got gathered.

[Monet X Change]

I sure did, girl. I. In my. In my mind, all those songs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet rewrite. Monet rewrote history. And then they gathered you about furtardo.

[Monet X Change]

I know. It was all about.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They gathered you about furtardo, too. Furtardo over Nelly Furtado.

[Monet X Change]

Those are all my high school dances. All the Songs, so they're like. They're filed in the same cabinet in my brain. That's why I mix those up. Doesn't Kamara have, like, the most original Bob Mackie gowns or something like that? Some. Like, some. Some.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. She has the biggest Bob Mackie collection. I don't know who has the most Bob Mackie gowns, but she has a really big. I don't know. I don't know if they have the biggest. But she just has a very large Bob Mackie collection, and she just really loves Bob Mackie. But I don't know how. I don't know that can. I don't know how if she has the most anything collection out there, personally. She does.

[Monet X Change]

I literally thought I saw one of those, like, famous people's tweets, whatever, and I was like, oh, shit. It's like, legit. Legit. But anyway, that's about Kamar Hall. I like Kamar. She's very. She's very cool.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She seems lovely. And I need to play Smash there again. She's fun. She's really, really fun to play with. And apparently she plays a lot.

[Monet X Change]

I play a lot, too. Wait, what are you doing tonight? Do you want. Do you want to. Can we live Smash for the fans so I can whoop your ass? Since you got so much to talk to, Motherfucking podcast, you fucking bald bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, try to whoop Jacob who scrubbed you across the Internet.

[Monet X Change]

First of all, the amount of times I beat Jacob when we play all the time. I don't Jacob up all the time. I've been fucking you and your man

[Bob the Drag Queen]

up in front of over a thousand people.

[Monet X Change]

You and your man up and. Baby, please. It was 872. I remember that number off the top of my head.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What I've noticed is this in the way that I embarrassed your boyfriend during Mercy. That's how Jacob embarrassed you during Smash.

[Monet X Change]

Lord, please. I be y'. All. Anyway, I need to say to these two hoes, I be destroying these bitches on Smash. On the regular, when we play Smash, I be having like, 30 wins. Bobby having like five. Jacob be having, like, 10, so whatever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

These numbers seem so inflated. That's so crazy.

[Monet X Change]

No, these numbers are real, baby.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's just that we have footage of Jacob beating you and you don't. It's just that we have footage of it. But anyway, that's not what I'm saying.

[Monet X Change]

Are you saying on this. Are you gonna lie to her till you say that? I don't be whooping Jacob's ass when we play smash. The three of us. Yes or no?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You lied to your team and say

[Monet X Change]

you lied to your team.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Said Jacob didn't beat you.

[Monet X Change]

You don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. You are so just like you lied to your team and said Jacob did not scrub you across the Internet in front of over a thousand people. We have documented footage. Still lie about after this.

[Monet X Change]

You don't have. You don't have to work tonight. I'm good tonight. Let's fucking go on thing and show these and show me who's boss. Whoop my ass.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, first of all, I have a job. I'm not just at home with my. With my tiny little chairs in the corner. With my tiny little furnace chair in the corner.

[Monet X Change]

What? That sou of tiny chairs and tiny tables.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's empty chairs and empty tables.

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[Monet X Change]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

1-800-contacts. Jacob better find the footage of him destroying you.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, he literally cutting your ass so

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob can find us. Literally kissing your eyes.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob can find us, but he can't do the research about underwears and whatever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Will you admit that you're wrong now?

[Monet X Change]

Interesting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Will you admit that you're wrong now?

[Monet X Change]

Interested?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Will you admit that you're wrong now?

[Monet X Change]

Jacob got time to do this, but he ain't got time to do the reason for the podcast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Before we move on, I just want to know if you're gonna. I just wonder if you're gonna admit that you're wrong. Okay, so is that a no? You're not gonna admit it?

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That Jacob beat you? I don't remember, but we just heard you footage. That's crazy.

[Jacob]

Well, if you're listening and you're Interested in seeing it? You can go to our video. It's on our. On YouTube. Bob the Drag Queen of Peppermint Queer Smashdown. And if you go to one hour and 32 minutes into the thing, you can see my match with Monet Xchange.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, okay. Bring that, bring that. Bring that same energy where we need to. Facts on the pod, baby. Bring that same energy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then since Monet won't fact check herself, we'll have to do it for time

[Monet X Change]

stamps and codes and discords. We have to research.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're a sore loser. Can we move on to Joey J since you're a sore loser? Please?

[Monet X Change]

Well, you know, Joey J is gay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Joy J is the first openly gay drag queen to ever compete on RuPaul's Drag Race. Joy J is. Lives in, I think Phoenix. She's a Phoenix queen.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have we had a lot of Phoenix queens? Isn't Tempest Du Jour from Phoenix is. And so is Jaden Dior fierce. Did I make that up by Jaden?

[Monet X Change]

No, Jaden is from. She's not from Phoenix, but in that area, it's like Texas. No, no, no, she's not. No. Jo. No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nevada, Arizona, Reno.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know, but I went to her city and I. And she, like, took me around and it is. But it's not. It's not Arizona. It's something down there, though, I think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Down? Well, you mean over there?

[Monet X Change]

That is down there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I want to point out that I'm so glad to all the Southerners who chimed in and were like, yeah, girl, Texas is not the South. Thank you to all the Southerners. And there were two or three Texas girlies in the comments being like, we are the South.

[Monet X Change]

You know what? Any diaspora wars down there?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not a diaspora.

[Monet X Change]

I know, but it's the closest thing I can say. Y' all always warn about who's more south and which one is south. And the, the, the.

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[Monet X Change]

The bacon and grits came from here. No, the cheese grits are from here, y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All, I know a New Yorker didn't just say anything about anyone talking about what came from. I know a New Yorker did not just crack their. Did not just crack their fucking crusty ass. Five burro lips, beef patty eating lips to say anything about what comes from where.

[Monet X Change]

New Yorker sound off. We don't argue about what came from where. We all know that bagels came from here. We all know that. We all have our version of our deli orders, our chopped cheese, whatever it is. We don't Argue about what came from where. We do not do that amongst ourselves. We do not. That's one thing we don't do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We New York, to be clear, Southerners aren't doing it. So we don't do it with Southerners. Texas is not the South. We're not arguing. They're not Southerners. We're not arguing amongst ourselves. Southerners are not tech. These people are here. Those people, them. That's. They're not in the South. They're. They're in Texas.

[Monet X Change]

Are you in Texas?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Talks about.

[Monet X Change]

Oh wait, we got Joey J is gay. Yeah, Joey J. Also, I just realized how much in their promo picture they look so much like Eddie Izzard. Or maybe just evoking a lot of Eddie Izzard ness.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think she looks for Eddie Izzard anymore. I don't think. Or maybe she still goes by Eddie Izzard professional or that name professionally. But she. No, I think.

[Monet X Change]

Well, whoever they are, I think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, her name is Susie Izzard, but she. I think she still goes by first stage name Eddie. Professionally. I am not sure though.

[Jacob]

Yeah, her name is Susie, but she's still billed as Eddie.

[Monet X Change]

Got it. Yeah. Joey J. I don't really remember a whole bunch about Joey J from the show. Oh, they're Jewish. Didn't know that. I don't know a whole bunch about Joey J from the show. I don't remember. Oh, she walks in and said filler queen. When people call themselves a filler queen, I'm like, why would you self title your yourself that? That seems so wild to me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe she's just self aware. Maybe she's like, I know what's going on.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, she wasn't wrong. She wasn't wrong. But I think that also maybe, maybe she meant like as a joke, like filler queen, but I'm really going to win. But then she said I'm not winning. Who knows? But all I know is I remember that Joy J is a particularly good dancer. And you said she's not.

[Monet X Change]

Or she. That's what you is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She is a particularly good. That's where. A particularly good dancer. And she wears wigs a lot more now too.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, God. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Somebody ring my damn bell.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Probably Amazon returning some dirty underwear.

[Monet X Change]

You can leave it. Thank you. It is. I tried them on and I actually came in them and then I put them back in the thing to go.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honestly, the way you was talking, top of the story. I believe it.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I nutted in the underwear. Nutted.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The way you were talking at the top of the top of the episode, I genuinely believe it.

[Monet X Change]

Nutted. And, baby, let me tell you the thing, it was. It was half and half. Okay. Because she was real backed up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like people who. I think. I don't know if I ever said some podcast where I know I said it to you and Jacob both privately, but, like, people who are constantly accusing other people of something are either people who have. Either do this themselves or. Or have had this done to them a lot of times. So if you're accusing. Like, if you always accuse someone of lying, it's probably because either you're always lying or you have a history of people lying to you. But I've noticed that people who don't have, like, a. Like a history of, like, people doing that kind of stuff, they don't do it themselves. They don't. They don't be on these streets accusing everyone of lying all the time. You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Oh, the next contestant.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, Tamisha Iman is coming for us. And we are all. I want to be clear. Everyone is cool with Tamisha Iman. Now, Tamisha is one of the most iconic queens in the pageant circuit. She's really a very impressive. If you guys have not seen videos of the Alabama star herself flipping and flopping. She lives in Vegas now, I believe. And I mean, she is one of those. She is like one of those, like Kennedy Davenport, Chi Chi Devane, Maya Amon le', Paige, like, stunt queens. Like, she was like a wild, wild stunt queen. And then, of course, she had a bout with cancer, which affected her health. But she's still a fierce queen, though. She has a lot of tenacity. Obviously. We experienced it firsthand, ferociously.

[Monet X Change]

So, yeah, during this season, we famously or infamously got into. Had some. Had not great experiences with Tony Shimon this season, and it ended up in this whole thing. And then with me and her and her. And then she blocks V on social media. She blocked Bob, but then I ended up seeing her at dragcon, and then I said, bygones be bygones. Now everyone's cool but Tamisha Iman, yeah, she's. And if you watch the season, you saw this RuPaul, there's this iconic video of this queen, Thandi. Iman Tandyman.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Tandy. Iman Dupri.

[Monet X Change]

Tandy Iman jumping from the ceiling into a split, which is fucking sickening. It's Tamisha's daughter. And, yeah, I was not familiar with Tamisha before the show. But I found about her on the show and afterwards, you know, for the queens that you really like and you want to see more of, you go and see them on Instagram and you, I mean, on YouTube and I saw all her pageant shit from there. But yeah, shout out to Tamisha, man. Does she still. Does she still do like Drag Race stuff? I don't think so. Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, she does it. She does. She does a brunch in Vegas. She does that really popular brunch in Vegas that everyone does. It's really fun. It's the one that Alexis Mateo does and Coco Montrese does it. It's a really, really fun brunch. I can't remember the name of it. The Garden. No, I can't remember. But it's really. I've been before and it was really, really fun. Oh, James Mansfield does it. It's really exciting.

[Monet X Change]

James is in Vegas now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yep. A lot of girls moved to Vegas. Mattie Morphosis. Yeah, girl. I think it's because of the Vegas Review. Like, I think the Vegas Review got a lot of girls out to Vegas in general also. I just want to let you guys know that when this shirt is released, my favorite feature is that it buttons down the back.

[Monet X Change]

Let's take a break and I'll talk about these buttons back there.

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[Monet X Change]

Okay, Okay, y'. All, this is Monet X Change. This is not a drill. This is not a drill. My US Tour of my hit Edinburgh Fringe Festival show Life Be Life and is coming across America, baby. We're coming to Seattle, Portland, Denver, Salt Lake City, Tucson, Asheville, Atlanta, Boston, Philadelphia, Washington, D.C. and San Francisco starting April 30, all the way through May 19. Y', all, I am so beyond proud of the show. It's so dope, it's so fierce, and I want you guys to all experience it. So please go to monetexchangelive.com and get tickets to see my hit one woman show Lifey Life in about, you know, darkly humorous, poignant, coming of age, sangin one woman show. You don't want to miss it. I'll see y' all there. So I have a question. Do these buttons at the back, are they function? Do they function? Can they unbutton?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, they do. Well, the shirt actually spits in two. It splits right down the middle in two.

[Monet X Change]

Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So if you buy like two, you can mix and match the colors. You can have one that's like, they don't come in two colors. They come in one color. This is two different shirts put together.

[Monet X Change]

Oh. So like if I was going to like a bath house, I could like unbutton the ones or I'm going to fall some. I wear this shirt and just unbutton the ones around my ass.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You could? Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I think you might get the, the garment messy.

[Monet X Change]

Well, after I do that, can I, can I just return it if I don't like it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You probably will. Maybe that, that, that, that Scans for you. And if you do return it, we will not be reselling it. Or do it. Do it. Putting a little shout. We won't shout it out and then resell it, I promise. Everyone, let's move on to Elliot with two T. No, it was a very, very. No, wrong way. Yeah, you are. You just want. You want to just argue with me so bad. It's crazy. It's crazy.

[Monet X Change]

It is. No, it's Lala Re. You going the wrong way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I have Elliot with two T's.

[Monet X Change]

No, it's Lala Re, Samish, Lala Reed, then Elliot with two T's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Lala Re is not even on my screen.

[Monet X Change]

Well, then open your. Open your screen wider, cuz you move. You probably missing Olivia and Lalori. Lala was next.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, there's Lala, right?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, See, the difference is I can say you're right. You're right, Monet. It feels so good to be mature. Oh, it feels so nice.

[Monet X Change]

When did you start doing that? I have to say, Lala reeves, All Stars 8 promo look, because that's the thing that plows on the thing. It is so good. It's the best I think she's ever looked in Drag Race. Would you agree?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I. Bitch. I forgot she was on All Stars 8.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, she went pretty far. She went, like, to the end almost.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, it's that whole season. That whole season. That whole season is just like a. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's right. All Stars 8 happened. The only two I remember from that season were just like, Ginger Minj and Kylie.

[Monet X Change]

Ginger Minj was in All Stars 8. No, she wasn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, was she not.

[Monet X Change]

No, that was Jimbo and Kandy Muse.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, well, then I don't remember anyone

[Monet X Change]

for the fucking season.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, it was Jimbo and Candy. Oh, my God. Yeah, that was season. Oh, I'm sorry.

[Monet X Change]

God, it was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just didn't like that season.

[Monet X Change]

That was not a good season.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know why. I don't know what it was about the scene that just was not. That was not doing it for me. And I know I'm very vocal about seasons I don't like. And people don't like this in time, but, I mean, I don't know what to tell you.

[Monet X Change]

I'm sorry, guys. To Jimbo and everyone. I'm sorry, Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not sorry. I don't like the season. She does look stunning, though. She looks absolutely amazing. She looks beautiful. I think I remember everything I like about this. I was saying maybe I want her to be bigger but actually, I don't care that it's not that big. She looks really, really great here.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that being.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That being said, she's a really strong performer. She's one of the girls who was touted for her remarkable performing abilities. And then her and Denali had to lip sync against each other for charity at the finale episode, which was so cool to see. I don't think we had one of those since then.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, her and Denali listening for charity?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Denali and Denali and Lala Reed did a lip sync against each other for, like. From their. For, like, a charity. You don't remember that?

[Monet X Change]

I. Girl, I have no recollection of that. Not even a little bit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was really cool. They both did it from, like, their home. I can't remember the song. I don't remember the song, but it was really cool. It was really, really cool. And I also saw footage of her performing on the tour that you did with Shay.

[Monet X Change]

Love Ball and so good.

[Jacob]

By Lauch.

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Jacob]

That was the song they lip sync to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What was it?

[Jacob]

Be My Lover by La.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, by. By.

[Monet X Change]

La Ria performing her. She's such an energetic performer. She's so fun. She's very, like, on the road. Lala really keeps to herself. Like, I think we've done at this point, two gigs together. One for Orlando Pride and then the Love Ball. And she is very quiet. She keeps to herself. She gets on stage, she shuts it down, and she goes to the hotel and she is bitch. Quieter than. Quieter than a dormouse. Maybe because we don't know each other very much very well. But, like, Lala Ri's very quiet. She, like, gets her. She does her gig, she does her thing. She shuts the fuck up. She goes to the next city and then you see her there. She's great. I like Lala. She also. She also loves. She Lala be out in these streets, honey, showing up that body because she working hard on it. She be showing some skin, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Lala Ri used to do my mom's drag show in Atlanta before she was on Drag Race. And my mom was like, oh, Laura's on Drag Race? And she was like, that's so crazy. And, you know, honestly, I vibe with Laura's, like, mind her own business. The people that if I'm touring with people I know, then I will, like, hang out with them. Like, if it's like Peppermint, you, Kim Naomi, which I have not toured with Kim Naomi or Peppermint in years. I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

That's the Last thing you and Pep did together?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Last thing we did was a comedy showcase at Town hall in Brooklyn. But it wasn't a tour, obviously. But that was the last live event that we did together. Yeah.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Aw.

[Monet X Change]

And who was your last friend that you toured with?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Madonna.

[Monet X Change]

You bald fucking black bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go. Let's go on to a very controversial queen.

[Monet X Change]

Elliot with three K's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Elliot. Elliot with two T's. Is really.

[Monet X Change]

When they gave her that name, it sent me over the hill. It's too much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Elliot. Elliot does not have a great rapport with the fan base and with a lot of queens. Like, she has a lot of.

[Monet X Change]

With queens.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There are certain, like, so any. Typically when queens, like, call out Elliot's like, behavior, she, like, DMS them is like, thanks a lot for sending more hate my way. So you're probably gonna get a DM soon.

[Monet X Change]

But I don't think. I don't think I. You. I follow her or like, I don't think. I think I'm on there. I don't think. I think she walked me at some point.

[Jacob]

You know, I think it might be better to just smooth over her and keep on going.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, we're going to talk about girl. We're going to.

[Monet X Change]

We're not. We're not. We're not talking bad about this. Like, it's fine. Elliot. She is a great performer. I will say that Elliot is a good performer. And on her season, maybe. Did she send people home? I think she sent, like, two people home, right? I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was sent home by Utica, though, but I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, she was. She was in the bottom two twice. So. Which means she sent someone home once and then she went home the second time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who did she sent home? Lala Ri or Kahmora Hall? There's only two girls in front of her.

[Monet X Change]

No, three girls. And Tamisha.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Lala Ri. Kahmora hall and who Tamisha looks like

[Jacob]

she sent home Lala Ri.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She sent home Lala Ri.

[Unidentified Guest]

Wow.

[Monet X Change]

Elliot sent Lala Ri home. Gag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do remember that TS Madison really loved this outfit. That Elliot hat on that. I just could not stand the flamingo one. I hated that outfit so much. I think you liked it too.

[Monet X Change]

No, I did not like it. I did not like that outfit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Emeritus Madison was like, I love this outfit. I was like, what this?

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Who said it?

[Monet X Change]

Who said it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, Madison on the show. She was like. She was a judge of the episode.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that's a crazy outfit to like. That outfit was crazy girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, I mean, I. I really hope that. It goes without saying that we hope you don't send people hate from.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, please don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I mean. But also. I mean, what we're saying could be interpreted as hate. So, you know, who are. Who are I.

[Monet X Change]

She also did, like, a gig with Jessie J. Like, she, like, impersonated Jesse or she. She did some, like, big gig with Jessie J. I don't remember. And she. I remember seeing the video. She had on, like, a black bob, like Jessie J. Someone can probably say what it was, but I remember I was like, oh, she's about to work. I would. I never met Jesse J. I love to meet Jessie J.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's talk about a queen who, I am shocked has not been on All Stars yet and I feel is due. Let's go on to Denali Fox, who is originally from Alaska but is popular for being from Chicago. And she's one of two. She's one of two queens who really made ice skating their thing. Well, she really made it her thing on Drag Race. Milk is just like, I can ice skate.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But on Drag Race, then I was like, I'm the one who ice skateboard skates, and I've seen her do it and she can't. She do a backflip in ice? Did I make that up? No. I don't know if I made that. That might not be true, but. But she is very athletic. Very, very impressive on the blades, for sure.

[Monet X Change]

Shay was saying that her and, oh, she's German, Jewish and indigenous and Mexican. Her and her and Shay work out. Shea was like, girl. Denali is, like, ripped. Like, her and Shay were going to work on the gym and the Drimbos be gagging because Denali be up there like. Like, lifting, like, crazy shit, apparently. So to your point, Denali is incredibly athletic and she knows her shit. She also does those videos with queens. Like, she just did one with Plane Jane of them ice skating, and they're. She did one with Mirage. I want to go do an ice skating video. I can ice skate.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think you can beat Denali in arm wrestling?

[Monet X Change]

I don't know, to be honest. I watched this video, this TikTok video of this, like, fucking dude, muscular as fuck, arm wrestling against a guy who is easily a third of his size. And a guy that's smaller than him, like, destroyed him with arm wrestling.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, a lot of arm wrestling is technique. Like, a lot of it is technique.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not just. It's not just strength. And, like, the technique to arm wrestling is like, A whole. It's a whole thing. There are people who, like, are much smaller and they can win in like a second. It's like the explosiveness and the. The leverage and the angles and the way you hold your hands. There's actually a lot that goes in arm wrestling. I went down arm wrestling. Like. Like dark, actually. We're gonna get. We're gonna get. Not a dark ho, but like a war, like an iceberg. We're gonna get her in a second. But I remember running into Got Mick at a show. It was at the GLAD Awards, and she was in a cast. I like, girl, what happened to your arm? And she was like, I broke it. Arm wrestling?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was like, oh, my.

[Monet X Change]

Wild too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. So. So arm wrestling is also quite new. You can break your. You can have your. Is this a femur? No. What is this radius? Your radius?

[Monet X Change]

I have no idea. Your femur is in your leg.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, your radius. I think that the one that. The one that moves around is the radius and the other one is another bone. I can't remember the name.

[Monet X Change]

Rotator cuff.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't. I think a rotator cuff is in your shoulder. Yeah, but the radius is on the forearm. It's the one that moves. And the other one is a. I don't know the name of that bone. Anyway, that's not the point. The point is you can have. You can break one of those or both of those bones. Arm wrestling. So I don't. I don't think I'm in these. Arm wrestling.

[Monet X Change]

Let me say something. When you go to Bob's house, Bob is going to try to mercy you. Arm wrestle you, Bob. I have been challenged by Bob to do a mercy arm wrestle. And that thing on the floor, what's the thing with the legs called? What is that called?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Leg wrestling.

[Monet X Change]

Somebody over.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I want to be very clear. Monet's boyfriend and me is called a. Check your battery. The other one's called. The one that doesn't rotate is called the ulna. Monet's boyfriend of your doing mercy is at his behest every time. I have never once pulled Andy to the side and said, please.

[Monet X Change]

You asked him. And now since you beat him the first time he. Every time he sees you, he asks you to do it again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I want to be clear. What happened was I was playing mercy with other people, and then Andy was like, I could probably win. I did not say Andy. Now come over here. It's your turn. And I want to point out too, that when I did wrestle, when I did Do Andy. He was the laugh. It was after crushing you and all your little friends, and then he was the final boss.

[Monet X Change]

First of all, you and I have never mercied, so. That's not true. You and I have never mercied you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Lucky you.

[Monet X Change]

No, nigga, lucky you. Because I don't want to. Mercy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you win?

[Monet X Change]

I don't know. But I'm not interested in finding out or trying, so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Me either. I already know the answers. I don't have to find out.

[Monet X Change]

I know the answer, too, so why would I even do that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We both answered.

[Jacob]

I'm glad.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm glad we're on the same page. We both know we are, baby.

[Monet X Change]

Page seven.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'm on page 14.

[Monet X Change]

You don't. You don't know the answer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You actually don't know the answer.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I realize you'll know it, babe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just. I did a study. Guys, first of all, we weren't even

[Monet X Change]

assigned to go that far ahead, so how would you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why.

[Monet X Change]

Why are you on page 14?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're behind. You're in a remedial class, and that's okay. I'm in an AP class. I'm an advanced placement.

[Monet X Change]

Take remedial dick on your tonsils.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think you're going to make it that far. You're not going to it that far, baby. We throw stop at 10.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Notice how your book is smaller than mine. Notice how your. Your textbook is way thinner than mine.

[Monet X Change]

My book is very thick, honey. I. I have thick. I'm. I'm a thick book.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You.

[Monet X Change]

You. You. You want a little skinny books with. With. With pictures. That's why you so far ahead n. You. You reading pictures. Not even reading text.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think picture books are bigger, typically, because they have a lot of pictures, but it depends. That's not the point, mon. The point is we're gonna move on to our next point.

[Monet X Change]

Picture books are bigger because they have bigger pictures. What are you talking about?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, a book with pictures is typically thicker than a book without pictures. If it has. If it has words and pictures, the book with pictures will be thicker because there's pictures on top of the words.

[Monet X Change]

I am flabbergasted by that logic. That makes absolutely no fucking sense.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't you have that giant Rihanna photo book?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but that's a pic. That's a photo book. But also, hold on. Harry Potter is like 500 pages long. There are no pictures in there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So your Harry Potter is thicker than the roundabout.

[Monet X Change]

But what has. Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you answer that question? Yes.

[Monet X Change]

Goblet Of Fire is like, seven now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How many Harry Potter books do you have? Why are you such a J.K. rowling fan?

[Monet X Change]

Shut the fuck up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, can you answer that question?

[Monet X Change]

Speaking of J.K. rowling, we have a queen who is also on fire, Jacob to Fire. We have Tina Burner, who is a. Who was a. Okay, I don't say was. Was. Sounds shady. Who is a New York City legend. Tina. I am gagged at how long? Because Tina was a part of that show that Bob and I have talked about many times on this podcast, Drag Queens of New York. And she was, like, a cast member on that. And they filmed that, like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Was she. No, no, she wasn't a cast member.

[Monet X Change]

She was in it, though. Like, she was in some footage of it when they were on, like, Fire island with, like, Bianca and Logan. Yeah. So Tina's been around for a while. Again, it was probably when she was just starting, so the bitch looked crazy, but she was, like, around back then.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Tina's been doing drag about the same amount of time I've been doing it. I think maybe maybe like, a year longer, maybe.

[Monet X Change]

So maybe. So maybe they were filming around, but you were. You just weren't, like, around those people yet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was doing. I was doing drag when that show came out. When they were filming that show.

[Monet X Change]

Oh,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wasn't popular enough to get invited. I was not a big name in New York City. I was. I was. I was a baby queen for sure. And I was competing at Star Search and Cattle Call and Tranimal. No, Tranimal hadn't even come out yet,

[Monet X Change]

actually, because that was Tina's show. So Tina was hosting. So Tina was hosting Tranimal and used to compete at it. And y' all started together?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, no. Well, Tina moved ahead of me.

[Monet X Change]

She just got.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She moved up the ranks faster than I did. And she. But she also.

[Monet X Change]

She.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So the thing about Tranimal was that it started at a bar that we both worked at, and she just pitched the idea of a compet. Any of us. It used to be at Excess Lounge. Oh, my God. I feel like a drag historian in New York City. Used to be an Excess lounge was on 24 between 6 and 7 or between 7 and 8 and. And then when Excess closed, she moved it to Posh, which I don't think Posh is there anymore either.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I think girl Posha goes on. But also, they have. They have. They have so many. Anyway, we can talk about this every time, but.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. So long story short, me and Tina both used to work at A bar called Excess Lounge. That's where we both got our starts at because she. She was a bartender there, and she used to hook up with it. She denies the story, and she'll always deny. Tina denies every story I tell about her on the podcast, but I'm telling you right now, they're all true. With 100 fact. Tina burner used to date this. This porn star with a giant penis, and he used to. In the bathrooms at Excess Lounge.

[Monet X Change]

And she swears in the bathroom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yep. And everyone knows she did, and she acted like she didn't. We all know she was doing it,

[Monet X Change]

but also, maybe they weren't fucking. They were, like, just doing, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, they were. We don't know what they're doing. They were fooling around. But they did fool around in the bathroom. And we're like, girl, we know what

[Monet X Change]

you're doing in there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And also, we don't care. Like, no one cares. It's a gay bar. We don't give a fuck, girl.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, she was. She was clearly giving a fuck.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But Tina Burner did one time fucking kiss me in the mouth, and my mouth went numb. And I'm telling you guys, that's not a lie. I will stand on this 10 toes down until I hit the dirt. Tina. At Hardware Bar, Tina Burner kissed me. And I wasn't like. It wasn't like. It wasn't. I mean, it was like going in for kids. I was like, okay, sure, kid. Whatever. Then I was like, oh, my God, I can't feel my tongue.

[Monet X Change]

But okay, what drug does that? Does a drug do that?

[Jacob]

Cocaine.

[Monet X Change]

Cocaine makes your mouth numb.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you put cocaine on your gums or your tummy, it makes you go numb.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, now I have a question. Is this something that people do?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do not unmute and try to.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob does it. Jacob, do you know, bitch,

[Jacob]

I'm from. I. Not that I have ever tried it myself, but I. I'm familiar with the logistics of how it works. Yes. What's your question?

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so people. Actually. People want. People want their mouth to numb for cocaine. Like, do you get high from doing that or is just like, oh, my mouth feels numb. That's cool.

[Jacob]

Essentially, like, you do a line of cocaine, and, you know, like, there's some leftover, and it's not, like, enough to snort. Like, it's not enough to, like, scrape back into another line. It's just, like, a little bit. And generally you, like, take your finger and, like, put on that powder and then put on your gums, and it's just like, an extra thing to do, and it's like a little bit more of the buzz.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you're not wasting. Wasting product, and so you're not wasting product.

[Monet X Change]

Now, can you do the same thing with ketamine? Does ketamine do the same thing

[Unidentified Guest]

that

[Jacob]

I don't actually know about?

[Monet X Change]

Because they're, like, the same kind of drug.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Jacob and I think ketamine and cocaine are different.

[Monet X Change]

They're different, but they're like the same kind. Like, they're both like a powder drug that you snort. You don't be people. Don't be honest.

[Jacob]

I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ketamine was a. I did not know ketamine was a powder. Actually, that's not true. I did know ketamine because I've seen someone do ketamine in front of me as a powder, and I thought they were cool.

[Monet X Change]

Ooh, do I know them?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not saying.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, no, just tell me. Just tell me if I know them. I'm not asking the name. Do I know them?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You do know them. Yes, you do know them, and that's all we're gonna say about it.

[Monet X Change]

But anyway, so I had Jacob text me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This queen was doing ketamine, and I think you could probably rub ketamine on your gums and teeth, too. I mean, anything. Powder, you can rub it on your. If you're.

[Monet X Change]

If you're baking, you don't want to waste hair. So, like, what is your blood vessels

[Bob the Drag Queen]

all over your body?

[Monet X Change]

I know, right? But, like, what are you talking about? But I'm saying. But, like, if you do it in your. Like, what. Like, what is the. Oh, wait, hold on.

[Jacob]

I gotta.

[Monet X Change]

Let me find out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know why I would take away. But there's no blood. If you put your gums, they will bleed.

[Monet X Change]

Got it.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Work.

[Monet X Change]

Interesting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So Tina Burner. Tina Burner did not have a great run on her show. She going on to. First of all, Tina's been trying to

[Bob the Drag Queen]

get a drag race on Drag Race. Tina had a great run.

[Monet X Change]

Not with the fans. Tina was not very loved by the fans. Tina Katina went into the drag race with this thing. Feel the burn, bitch. Did y' all just see that? What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was on a different screen. What was it?

[Monet X Change]

Nigga, you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

This.

[Monet X Change]

This what you just did. You just rubbed my nose.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, this.

[Monet X Change]

You just rubbed cocaine in your gums, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I rubbed my nose. I rubbed cocaine in my nose.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, okay. I'm about to say the gums is crazy. Yeah. So Tina went into drag race. She first she tried like 12 times. She finally got on and she was married to this red, orange, yellow fire aesthetic. All of her. All of her looks were feel the burn. This, like, full all around branding. Everything had to be these colors. So the fans got. And tag yourself. I'm fans. We got really tired of her really quick. It was. Everything was these colors and the wigs and blah, blah, blah. I think now she's changed this. But that's what we. That's what's in our brain from Tina Burner is that everything was feel the burn. Red, orange, yellow. No matter what the category, it was crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A big part of why it was driving the fans so crazy that she kept saying, feel the burn and all that stuff is because you know what it is the people who over brand. I think the reason why no one cares that Sapphira is wearing blues because she's not talking about it, right. And I think the reason why people were annoyed that Tina Burner was because she kept saying it. She kept talking about it. She kept, like, singing so much about it that it became irritating to people. That's why I think the difference between Sapphira and Nymphia, that's what. That's my opinion. But I might. Who knows? What do I fucking know?

[Jacob]

I'm not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not a fucking.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I know. Sapphire and I are doing a thing together, a show together. And she does have the color blue. But to your point, I agree. She does not talk about it. Like, she just wears it a lot. And she likes the color. She does the thing. She's not working around her hair like Blue Lagoon. Like, I feel someone who has. Who's kind of branding herself, she wears blue all the time. But she's kind of shaken out of it because I think she realized people will probably get annoyed when she finally gets on Drag Race. If she ever gets on Drag Race. Laguna Blue, because out of Stephanie Shaw, her color was the blue color. This bitch is wearing blue hair. Blue, blue, everything. Blue, blue, blue, blue, blue. Well, no, Jan is a. Jan is. Everything is purple for her. Everything is purple and lavender. But she. She never told us that, but she just wears it. And she, like, she doesn't, like, brand herself as the turquoise lavender queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I haven't given it much thought. I don't follow Rose's career. I'm not obsessed with. You say Jan or Rose.

[Monet X Change]

Jan. Jan is a lavender girl. Like, you wear yellow lot, so. Oh, my God, you are the original banana queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't wear any yellow on the show, though.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, You. Well, kinda.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When? No, I didn't.

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I fully wear yellow. I wear the yellow palazzo.

[Monet X Change]

That's what I'm saying. The neon thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I fully. I fully wear yellow. Yeah. Tina Burner is a very popular yellow belt. She's now a P. Town queen and she's. She travels a lot. She does her, like a hocus pocus show. That's. That's. That's. That's your homegirl. New York City. Truly a New York City, like, legend. Tina Burner for sure.

[Monet X Change]

Tina burns her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go on to Utica.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. The fat joke. The Loni love fat joke. That shit, that roast. I'm gonna watch it after we finish this. That shit was so good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Utica, she. She had one win. She got sent home by Simone, and she's from Utica, New York. Utica, Minnesota, I mean, and Indiana, I think. I'm pretty sure it's Utica's in Minnesota. I'm almost positive. I think you're right. But anyway, Utica is. She is. She had one of my favorite design. I'm gonna go on record and say that Utica had the best outfit that's ever been made on Drag Race. Like the best outfit that was made in the workroom. She. Her sleeping bag was the best one in my. I can't think of a single outfit that looked better than that one. Not one.

[Monet X Change]

There were some really good ones this week.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe. Ahora had a really cool look on her season. I think that Utica's slick bag look is not only more technical than that tie look. It looks better. It's beautiful. It's that. That look is stunning. I stand by that look being one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen on Drag Race. That was made in the workroom.

[Jacob]

Truly.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know that tie look. Maybe because it's so new and fresh in my head, I'm thinking, so. But that fucking tie. Look at me up. That was. I was so impressed by that. So cool. Yeah. Utica was known for this. She was a very quirky girl of her season. Her town has like 2,000 people. There's a population of her town, which is crazy to think about. And she goes down to Dragon History for two things that sleeping by look. But the fucking roast of. Was it of Loni Love? No, it was of Michelle Vaz, whoever it was. Lonnie was on the date.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was Nightie. It was Heidi.

[Monet X Change]

It was the roast of Heidi in Closet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Roast of the Congenialities.

[Jacob]

No, that was. That was an All Star season. I think that was All Star six.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I think it was roast of one of the judges or somebody there. Anyway, Loni Love was on the deus, and one of the judges there and Utica, she goes and she starts making whales on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's like.

[Monet X Change]

And she made some fat joke at Lonnie. And then Lonnie read her right back to what she was bombing. It was so good and so uncomfortable, and it was great. I loved it. One of my favorite moments in Drag Race history.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I think what. What it was was that. That she made the fat joke. But the fat joke was it wasn't what Lonnie responded to Lonnie.

[Jacob]

It was the Miss Congeniality roast. Heidi in Closet, Nina west and Valentina.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The way my memory is impeccable. You. You hoes could never with me. But anyway, the point is, what I believe what happened was she made a joke about Lonnie's career, like Lonnie's career not being good. She made a joke about Lonnie Love not being a funny comedian. And then Lonnie Love said, you're the one bombing. That was what. That. That was why. That was why it was so funny. Because she made some joke about Lionel Love not being a funny comedian while not being funny.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which made Lonnie. Which made Lonnie laugh so hard and go, you're the one bombing. Have you seen that clip online of the girls on the.

[Monet X Change]

On the real.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then they're like, where do you want to be? It's like when you try to do dark humor in front of your friends, and it's like, where do you guys see yourself in 10 years? And Lonnie Lo. I'll be dead in 10 years. And everyone goes, no,

[Monet X Change]

not. Ever seen that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're like, don't say that.

[Jacob]

They keep on saying I look like a Muppet.

[Monet X Change]

Who's like a Muppet?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, okay. Tamar Braxton.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, I've seen this clip.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was like, they sound like a Muppet. But if you cut to clips of Lonnie Love, she's trying not to laugh because Tamar is really hurt. But Lonnie is just like. Utica is. Also had one of those. Had a line that stopped me dead in my tracks during what's that song Drags all over the World phenomenon, where she goes for my savior as I toss my hair. I will never forget that. I mean, we've had a few queens talk about their Lord and savior on the show. Ginger Minj, a Kennedy Davenport Jesus girl,

[Monet X Change]

cross dressing for Christ.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But that was her performance. She didn't sing it. But it was a. It was a. It was her lip sync number at the finale.

[Monet X Change]

No, but she has a show. Like, she had, like a one on

[Bob the Drag Queen]

one show called that too.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I remember for my savior that tossed my hair Sent me through the roof. Can I be honest with you guys? This is gonna sound so shady, but, like, when I find out someone's religious, I kind of lose a little bit of respect for them. Is that horrible?

[Monet X Change]

So when. When. When we became friends, did you lose

[Bob the Drag Queen]

respect for me when I found out you were a little bit religious? Yeah, a little bit. But I gained some when you. When you stopped being religious. Is that shady? It's judgmental. I'm acknowledging that it is judgmental.

[Monet X Change]

You know, listen, you're entitled to do whatever you want with your mind or your body, baby. But Jesus

[Bob the Drag Queen]

do what?

[Monet X Change]

Have you ever seen Interstellar?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, but I would say the religious drag queens kind of creep me out. But, you know, that's. That's. I've been on this topic a thousand times. I think you sound like a broken record.

[Monet X Change]

We heard it, we got it. You hate God and Jesus.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We don't have time to go on tour. We don't have time to finish this season. Unless you want to do one more. And I'll leave it up to you, Monet. You decide if we're going to shortchange our listeners.

[Monet X Change]

No. Well, Bob, thank you so much for being here today. I want to say before we start the podcast, Bob was in a mood. Girl, she had an attitude. I was not in a mood, dude. You weren't?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I was adjusting my. I was, like, adjusting my camera and sitting down.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I thought you were just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not cheesing. In your face. I'm going to have an attitude.

[Monet X Change]

There you have it, ladies and gentlemen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just. I'm not all up in your face.

[Monet X Change]

No one said you have to do that. Listen, nigga, you about to be off your tour. You're gonna come back home and then you're gonna be like, monet, Monet, Monet, don't come. Monet. 1A, 1A. We have all this. If you have all the shit you say, what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You say you don't want me to come around?

[Monet X Change]

You standing around when you come back

[Bob the Drag Queen]

home, you don't want me to come? You don't wanna hang out? Cause we can make that happen, bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, bitch, we can make that happen for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honey.

[Monet X Change]

Put those fucking glasses down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll come to you. I'll See you at your next tour. I'll sit in the audience and I'll wave from the audience. I'll send you a text of the. Of my ticket, and then I'll say I came and then I'll leave. That's my support for you from now on. From the seat. From the seat.

[Monet X Change]

Can you say the thing you hear? And you cut

[Bob the Drag Queen]

a new cut, a new color, a new. Do you. And I've started watching lately. I've started watching Maddie in the mornings. I don't watch it in the mornings, but it is so fun. It's long. It is long. It is, like, three hours long. But T.S. madison does a show called Maddie in the Mornings. And I gotta, like, tune in and out here and there. But I've been watching a lot of

[Monet X Change]

Maddie in the morning.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, me and Jacob share a. Well, we don't share a YouTube account, but the TV is locked onto my YouTube account because I have no ads on my YouTube channel. And I don't think Jacob watches a lot of YouTube. But it's time to be like. It is weird to be like, oh, I can see what you're looking at. And it's never anything. It's never. It's what you would expect Jacob to be looking at. But I'm like, oh, Jacob's looking at the. Because it's kind of like whenever you. Whenever you share a Hulu or something, and you'd be like, why is this recommending this TV show to me? You ever have that moment?

[Monet X Change]

No, I don't. I have no one on my login. The only fucking person that's on my login, I mean, he had to make his own channel is Andy on my Hulu. I don't like sharing those because for that reason. And also a lot of them are cracking down when they see you have multiple accounts, they will shut your shit down. So you at your house trying to watch your shit, and it's like, uh. And I'm like, uh, bitch, this is mine. I'll pay for this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Jacob doesn't watch a lot like Jacob. Did you watch the Best of Roger Smith from American dad or was that me?

[Jacob]

I did watch that, and I just

[Bob the Drag Queen]

love the idea of Jacob watching the Best of Roger just sitting at home. It's so cute. Jacob's just sitting there watching the Best of Roger from.

[Monet X Change]

Are you and Jacob into some kind of. Are y' all into, like, a voyeur situation? Do you like. Do you like voyeurism?

[Jacob]

Not specifically, but not. No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Not.

[Monet X Change]

No. And what, like someone like, we're not, like, out here.

[Jacob]

We're not out here looking, like, hunting the streets for people to watch us. Fuck.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, time out. See, I did not say so. Y' all talking about as a unit. So as a unit, y' all like to voyeur stuff. Like, as a. Oh, I thought that was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, we did not say that. We just said not necessarily, but not no, no, no.

[Monet X Change]

Y' all are saying something different than Jacob said. Oh, I thought that was a question. I know Jacob. I was asking, like, independently, do y' all like voyeur? But as a couple, do y' all like, y' all like to voyeur as a couple?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We. We answered. We said no, not no, not.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob said, yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob said, not necessarily, but not no. How did you get yes out of that?

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so what is not no? The opposite of no is yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think that if you. That's like saying, like, are you really. Like, if someone's like, are you really into anime? And I'm like, I have. I have seen an anime. I'm not into anime. Like, I will watch it anime. But I would not say I'm into anime. So not no.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. That's your answer, Jacob. Okay, but okay answer.

[Jacob]

I think that makes it, like. I think, like, if you're like, if you ask somebody, are you into fisting? They would say, if you ask me if I'm into fisting, I would say, no, fisting is not for me. But if you ask some people, they're like, yes, I'm into fisting. And it's something I actively seek out often. So what I'm saying is, like, voyeurism is not something we are out here, like, hunting, looking for, going for off, like, on a regular basis. But, like, if it happens, like, we're down, you know?

[Monet X Change]

And what is happens?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How about you? Are you an Andy into voyeurism? Because I heard y' all got. I heard y' all were getting it down on. On the dance floor at. What's that party where your little friend was D.J.

[Monet X Change]

first of all, put your hands and little. Do not put your hands.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where's that party? Where's that party that you. What's that party, Jacob? The big circuit party in. In New York that Monet went dressed you and I heard that. I heard the fairly odd parents on the dance floor. That's what I heard in New York, the fairly odd parents weren't y' all on the dance floor? I. I heard that. I heard that. I heard that. That. That Wanda was giving her wand to Cosmo. That's what I heard.

[Monet X Change]

Waddle. Giving her wand. J.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what I heard.

[Jacob]

Have you ever been, like, hooking up with somebody? You look across the room. Colleen is staring directly at you.

[Monet X Change]

No, Colleen. When I. When I would have people over, Colleen would do this weird thing. It's like she, like, only a handful of times, she would come on the bed, and I would, like, have to

[Bob the Drag Queen]

push her on the bed.

[Monet X Change]

She would come. She, like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was on the bed.

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy. Had her pussy and come before I get there. I was like, bitch. Only one person. Only one bitch is coming in this party, and it's gonna be me. But, yeah, she'll come. But also, she'll do the cat thing. She'll come on the bed, and she'll be like this, looking at me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's the opposite of a voyeur? When you.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know. What's the opposite of voyeurism?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like a sadist and a masochist, and then it's like voyeur and a. I know the. A what?

[Monet X Change]

Bravado.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's when you like to look.

[Monet X Change]

Navor is being. Oh, oh. Like you. So, like, you like being watched or you like to look? That's what you're saying?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I think a voyeur likes exhibitionist. Wait, no. Exhibitionists like to be seen, and voyers like to watch.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so are you into exhibitionism, either of you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, not really. But I am more. I'm more into voyeurism than I am into exhibitionism. So now that I've cleared these two up, I'm much more into voyeurism than I am into exhibition. Exhibitionism.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not into either. Like, I don't want to be watched, and I'm not trying to give a show. I just want to. I want being the person to do the thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, no. Not be watch. If you're a voyer, you like to watch, not be watched.

[Monet X Change]

Exhibition is. Is to be watched. I don't like either of those. I'm saying I'm not into.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You say, I don't like to watch, and I don't like. You said, I don't like to be watched, and I don't like to put on a show. Those are the same thing.

[Monet X Change]

No, I said I don't like to watch. I don't like to be watched. I said opposites.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

None of those speak to me like. I'm not trying to. I'm not. I'm not trying to be over Here, jerking off, and someone's watching me. And that doesn't turn me on. I'm not turned on by watching someone jerk off.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm very turned on by watching people have sex in public. And whenever I can see it, I'm like, oh, this is so exciting. I'm so glad I got to see this, even if I'm not attracted to the person. I used to have a neighbor who would jerk off with his window open back in on Amsterdam for hours. He would jerk off with his window open for hours, right in the window. And I was like, oh, okay.

[Jacob]

And we've been together for years, and

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wasn't ever together yet. And I wasn't even attracted to him. I wasn't even attracted. But I was just like, this is so great.

[Monet X Change]

So Bob's. For y'. All to know Bob's old apartment, it would face him. So was it the person? Like the wall, the brick wall in your eye? No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So to be clear, my old apartment, when I look at my kitchen, I was looking into someone's kitchen. I looked at my living room. I was looking to someone's living room. When I was in the bedroom, I could see someone's. Like, for my bedroom, I could see someone's living room. I could see, like, three different people. Like, my bedroom, you can see, like, two floors up, two floors down and to the left. And it was the guy that was like, not here, but, like, right there.

[Monet X Change]

Got it. See, I am a. Yeah, no, I think I know this answer. Well, I've asked you this before, but I'm a naked walker in my house. Like, I walk around my house naked all the time. And I feel forgetting now I'm not in my. Cause my old apartment was on the second floor. But even though. And obviously I had neighbors, because I had. It was two and three. I had. People could see, but I didn't really care. But now, bitch, I'm on the street level, and I need to remember. Like, I can't be walking around my house naked because people can fucking see until I have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can also close your curtains.

[Monet X Change]

But I like natural light. So when I wake up in the morning, I had the blinds on automatic thing at sunrise, they all come up. So I'm like. I like to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So what's it gonna be? Sunlight or walking around naked?

[Monet X Change]

I know it's a tough.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which one are you picking?

[Monet X Change]

It's a hard place to be. And I used to be naked. I can. To quote you, remember you. That time you were like, Monet. I can. What's the Debate we had about masturbating. You like, why can't I masturbate in

[Bob the Drag Queen]

my car, mess up in my car if I walk around my house naked? Why are you looking at my house? Why are you looking at my house? Why are you looking in my house? I'm in my home, my domicile.

[Monet X Change]

I was happy that you're in a better mood.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was not in a bad mood. Stop saying that. You're trying to put me in a bad mood. Stop doing that. I don't like that.

[Monet X Change]

My experience is that you were in a bad mood.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't get to experience my mood. I experience my mood. I have the experience of feeling my mood.

[Jacob]

And thank you so much for listening.

[Monet X Change]

No, no, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can perceive it, and you perceived it wrong. I was not in a bad mood. But you're trying to put me in a bad mood by continually asserting I was in a bad mood. That's annoying. I don't like that.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, okay. Your logic is saying that by me saying me talking about my experience of you is gonna put you in a bad mood?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I think it's a very common occurrence that being told you're in a bad mood when you're not in a bad mood puts a lot of people in a bad mood. That's not even rare to me. Being told you're in a bad mood when you're not in a bad mood can really upset a lot of people. That's very, very commonplace.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you know what? I apologize if you were not in a bad mood. That was my experience of how I perceived your emotions. You know, if I perceived them wrong, my apologies. But that's how.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's how I did.

[Monet X Change]

What? See, now you did. Now you come at me. Now you come at me with ether. So I'm gonna spit my ether back at you, nigga. You was in a bad mood. See, I try to be nice, y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All.

[Monet X Change]

I try to play nice, and I apologize. Here she comes.

[Jacob]

You did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You did.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but you. Okay, you doing that is what. I'm gonna put me in a bad mood.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're in a bad mood now you're.

[Monet X Change]

Now who's in the mood?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel great. Oh, yeah? You don't like it, do you? And on that, no. Thanks for coming on my show.

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