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Bob the Drag Queen
My name is Bob the Drag Queen,
Monet X Change
and I'm Monet X Change.
Bob the Drag Queen
And this is simply rivalry. On this week's episode, we find out, did Monet grab Lindsay Lohan?
Monet X Change
We talk about Freaky Friday.
Bob the Drag Queen
And we find out what made Monet say this, you, Honor.
Monet X Change
I would not indulge in a glazed donut, whatever the fuck that is. That sounds crazy. And we find out what made Bob say this.
Bob the Drag Queen
You grabbed that woman, lifted her over your head. I have a question. Monet and I get this feedback a lot on the podcast that my audio seems low and Monet's audio seems high. This is a constant feedback that we're getting now. I'll acknowledge I don't have the best ear. I don't have one of those ears. Like, I don't have a very discerning ear. Are you. Is this. Do y' all feel like I'm quiet? Monet, you say something?
Monet X Change
Hello? Does Monet x change talking? Does Monet X change talking? And I think I sound. I'm probably at a pretty decent level, but I don't. I normally don't get the low thing. They say that there's a disparity because yours is so low. But I listen to every episode on our YouTube, on our Patreon, on, like, Spotify. I listen to Apple.
Bob the Drag Queen
You listen to every episode three times.
Monet X Change
And on Apple.
Bob the Drag Queen
That wasn't a bit. You said Patreons. Oh, you mean you listen to the.
Monet X Change
I'm listening to the. Through, like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
In our social media, on TikTok and
Monet X Change
on Instagram And I don't ever hear this Bob, as well. I mean, there have been, like, one or two anomaly times. I'm like, oh, yeah, I can hear it. But for it to be a constant thing, I don't be hearing it like that. I don't know what's going on.
Bob the Drag Queen
And you have a pretty good ear. I have a great ear.
Monet X Change
Ear.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my God. Wow. Look who's working on their pronunciation.
Monet X Change
I'm not working on it. We need to take this thing out. We have to take it out.
Bob the Drag Queen
It is the youngest sibling. That's our baby sibling.
Monet X Change
I cannot with you with the fucking thumbs up and the thumbs down. Yeah. Ew. Stop it. Anyway, what does that do?
Bob the Drag Queen
You didn't know about that one, did you? You didn't know about that one, did you?
Monet X Change
Can you do the one where all the dicks pop out?
Jacob
Can you describe it for our audio listeners?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I won't. You need to subscribe to the Patreon.
Monet X Change
The Patreon, no.
Bob the Drag Queen
So, because I use iOS, I'm usually recording. I mean, we're both recording from Mac, so I don't understand why this. It happens when I do it. But when I put my thumb, when I do a thumbs up, or when I do a peace sign, certain things happen. So if you do a peace sign, balloons pop up, you do a thumbs up, you'll get a thumbs up thought emoji. And if you do two thumbs up with a big smile, the explosions happen behind you as if you are the Fourth of July.
Monet X Change
And do you remember when it first started happening, y'?
Bob the Drag Queen
All?
Monet X Change
OG OG Listen, Robbie, listen to step in. And I said, bob, what was that? You like Monet? What are you talking about? I was like, bob, he said, monet, that literally did not happen. I'm like, yes, it did.
Bob the Drag Queen
So unlike you, Monet, when I'm talking to you on the podcast, you are my entire screen. I'm not looking at myself. You're looking at yourself. I know. I know the kind of person you are. You're looking at yourself the whole time. I'm looking at you. You are. So when we record on a. On an Internet app called Riverside, and with Riverside, there's a little thing you can click in the middle of the person's screen. It'll make them big, it'll make you small. Or you can do split screen. And sometimes when you do split, I do split screen sometimes, too, and the thought bubbles off to the side. So I did not see it. I was not trying to trick you. I did not see it.
Monet X Change
And it's how Bob is full of shit. Because even when you make the person full screen, you can still see the other boxes. I have Bob full screen right now, but I can still see the other boxes in my thing and my, like, they're on the fucking screen. It's not like a widescreen of the whole thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
So to take a picture of this, this is what I'm seeing now. Y' all can see this on the podcast. So you can see that Monet is full of conflama. Or sometimes it is like this, which we are side by side.
Monet X Change
I'm gonna do it too.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm gonna do it too. And when we're side by side, I don't see the. The thought bubbles because it is off over to the side. I did not see that. Why do you think I would. Why would. What would I have. Why would I lie about seeing a thought?
Monet X Change
This is what I see, okay? I'm just. I'm looking at you. I blow you up and I watch you. This is what I see. You. You guys are. You guys are seeing what I see right now. Do you hear what I hear?
Bob the Drag Queen
But also when we're side by side, which the thought bubbles off to the side. So I don't see because my. Then the frame is so. It's so tiny. So my question is, this is like one of those scenarios where you're out and someone goes, I saw you at the club and you ignored me. And I'm like, what are the chances that I just didn't see you? What would I gain from lying about whether or not I saw you ignored me? I did not ignore you, baby. I swear. You and I have known each other for years. We usually always talk. I literally just. I'm about to start ignoring you.
Monet X Change
So this Bob is talking about. When we went to Mickey's WeHo and Bob saw Morgan Michaels, and Bob grabbed my hand and he made us run across the bar to ignore Morgan Michaels.
Bob the Drag Queen
That has never happened. Morgan knows I love Morgan. That has literally never happened once. But we did go out to have an evening of stand up comedy at Akbar. It was music. Oh, yeah. That was so fun. Let me tell you, Bobby doing stuff.
Monet X Change
So I'm home, right? I had just got from the gym. I had showered and bitch, I had. I had heat up my soup. I'm not joking. I heat up my soup. I was very excited. Snow soup, my stick.
Bob the Drag Queen
Everyone said that pee was crazy when I said, I'm gonna have soup.
Monet X Change
So I was like, oh. I was like cozy on the couch. I was Watching the. My old volleyball matches from the from Olympics. I haven't finished watching because I watch all of them because I don't know all the results because I know I'll have a lot of content to watch. Anyway, I get a call at 7:07. I'm like, hey, Mo, what you doing? I'm like, I'm at home like, do you want to come see? Do you want to come see stand up show at 8? And I was like, sure. And now it takes me like 25 minutes to get to where the place was. It was down in Silver Lake. And you know, I'm very happy you called me and you invited me. Cause I had a very fun time. Was very cute.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, it was me, Monet X Change. Jasmine W. A comedian friend of mine, Pink Fox.
Monet X Change
I'm friends with Jasmine as well. We're mutuals.
Bob the Drag Queen
I feel like I introduced you to Jasmine.
Monet X Change
No, you did not. Jasmine. I became friends on TikTok before you.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, you were not before me and Jasmine. That's just not true. No, no, no.
Monet X Change
Not before what I'm saying, like before exactly. Oh my God. I'm choosing peace today, y'.
Jada Fellow
All.
Bob the Drag Queen
I can't make it. Do it anyway. Me, Jasmine W. Pink Fox. Who's another comedian friend of mine, Kevin.
Monet X Change
Was that the blonde guy with the curly hair?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I can't remember his last name. Kevin something over there. And then my. Who's the comedian? And then got Mick and. And then uh. Oh, then later on my friend Darrell. Darrell from the Madonna.
Monet X Change
Black name. Darrell. Darrell is a black ass name. I love that.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm gonna give you Darrell's full name and you have to meet bleep. Darrell's full name. But Darrell's name is Darrell Black.
Monet X Change
This N is black.
Bob the Drag Queen
I love Darrell. Darrell is my homegirl. Darrell is one of those sickening dancers.
Monet X Change
Oh, wow.
Bob the Drag Queen
If you all came to the Madonna tournament, Darrell was wondering Vogue. Who had that big old hat wearing that black like kind of like a Mugler Y looking. It probably was Mugler pencil skirt suit. Look who came to visit me, Mo
Monet X Change
who come here in Burlington.
Jacob
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Came to Burlington just to visit me for the day. Surprised me.
Monet X Change
Oh, Lord.
Bob the Drag Queen
What?
Monet X Change
Oh, What? What was that look?
Bob the Drag Queen
That was crazy, right?
Monet X Change
Hi, Nicholas Smith. I talked about another black name, Nick Smith. Okay, Nick, get out of here.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, Nick. Nick Smith, the blackest name in the business.
Monet X Change
Nicholas Smith. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, Nick. Nick came to visit me. I was like, I'm here for three days. Nick's like, I have the day off and they came to visit me. We Weren't out of town today. Went to a diner, Henry's Diner in Burlington. Honestly, I reckon if I heard if you come to Burlington, Vermont, go to Henry's Diner and get the glazed donut French toast, it is as gluttonous as it sounds and it is as good as it sounds.
Monet X Change
That sound. That does sound good. I do have a glazed donut. Do love, love bitch. Oh my God. Okay. Have you seen. Speaking of Nick. Yeah, Nick, New York City made the connection. Have you seen. Because you and I talk about this biannually. Have you seen the discourse about the. About the pay. About the pay disparities for drag queens in New York City and how. And what are your thoughts on it? I haven't, haven't heard this part in a long time.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I didn't watch Ke's whole story because I don't know what I was doing.
Jacob
But Kevin introing the intro to the discussion, like, talk about.
Monet X Change
So Ker, a very well known drag queen in New York City, that bearded queen, she's been in the scene for a very long time. Well, almost like two decades. So she did a post basically saying like, you know, it is unfair that queens are still getting paid $150 to this day. She's like, when I started, that was the going rate. And she was like, now clubs still come at me with this rate. She's like, for most of my jobs, I've had them for a while. I've gotten like a tiny raise and some of them, not all of them, but she was like, the standard rate to pay your queen is $150. And it's just not, it's just not right. Like queen, like. And then Pixie Aventura did a thing. She was like, girl. I was asked, talking to some of the older, some of the elder queens from like back in the 90s, like Jack, like Jackie Beat and Sherry Von N. Oh yeah, girl. Back in the early 90s, it was between 100 and $150. I'm like, that's three decades at the same rate.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, girl. I mean that's, that's wild. I mean, but also it is reflective of the larger financial institution that is salary paid and pay hourly pay. Because the. I'm pretty sure that the minimum wage in Georgia right now is $7.13.
Monet X Change
I think 7.25 was the national. Is the national thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
So 725 when I was there was 513. This was 20 years ago.
Monet X Change
Crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
It was 513 and waiters are getting paid 213 an hour. And I want to say I was and I want. And that's what I was getting paid. I don't know if waiters are still getting paid that in the state of Georgia, but it is quite reflective. And yeah, you know, I was. When she said I was like when she was. I. I was listening to Ker Taryn Wooten's Instagram story and I was like when she was getting ready to say the price, I was like here it comes. 150. Say 150. She was like 150. And that's what it was. My, my. One of my last gigs that I was in the city, I got paid. I got paid $200, but 50 of that dollars was for me to pay my guests.
Monet X Change
That's crazy. I think in all of my gigs, my Santa was 150. In New York City, there was one of them that was $200. I don't remember. I think Pixie. Oh well, there was. It was at old bars. I don't know what it is now, but at the Help I think Pixie and I, we had got it up to $200. But again the Help was a really successful show. And no shade but most of my shows were successful. Like Monday night was on most fluctuate but like Saturdays, most Saturdays used to be banging. Bussin pack.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can we acknowledge? Can we lean into most?
Monet X Change
Can you please Cracker and I got Sunday nights, bitch. We used to be there for ones and twos of people. By the time we left every Sunday it was a bustin busy and packed. Tuesday night's bad drag queen was busin busy and packed. Wednesday was fierce. Was bustin busy and packed with me and Pixie. Did I do a gig on Thursday? I don't remember. Anyway, but so I say all that to say like I was doing a good job at my shows and I think with $150 these bar. Because now also Bob, you have to realize Kejra was saying there are 18 bars, 18 gay bars that do drag shows in Hell's Kitchen or from like Chelsea to Hell's Kitchen. Isn't that crazy?
Bob the Drag Queen
Um, I don't know that it is too crazy. I mean when I first moved to New York City there were like a lot of bars and they started closing. When I first got to New York City, there were a lot of bar. I love it.
Monet X Change
She said there are 22. But, but just. This is just between Hell's Kitchen and Chelsea. 22 gay bars that are doing drag shows.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't Think there's that many, to be honest. Really? When I first started the scene, there were, There were, there were. There were more. Like by the time I. By the time I left the New York City scene, there were less. But a. But a bunch of the places closed. Like a lot of them closed.
Monet X Change
Interesting. But she. But she what? She basically saying that now they're also. So now they're. Bitch, can you. Are you doing a podcast?
Bob the Drag Queen
Fucking watching reels? I asked Nick if you watch TikTok. Nick was like, well, I watch reels. And I was like, jesus. I mean, I love reels.
Monet X Change
There's such a difference in the kind of content that each one creates is so different. It's so interesting because obviously some people,
Bob the Drag Queen
same content, but Reals just gets it four weeks later, honestly, Reals just found
Monet X Change
about the renegade, the one that's popping on reels right now. The one second sound like, that's not a TikTok thing. That's a real thing. Specific. Real thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Because you can't make one second videos on TikTok, right?
Monet X Change
So, yeah, so she's saying, like, there are so many queens now also, and there are so many gigs, you know, and these bars also expect you to come with new costumes and new hair and like have these like really fierce things. And I'm like, well, like, girl, that costs. And then when you're. When you're a local queen in the scene, like, it's tough to get that done.
Bob the Drag Queen
There might be more queens now for sure. Actually, there's no might. There are more queens now for sure. When I first started doing drag, I would say queens who are like working and they are just drag queens and they are sustaining themselves. Not off their parents, not off of. Not off their. Their finance job, not waiting tables, not as a teacher, just drag. I feel like in New York City there must. There might have been like maybe, maybe 30, possibly 40. And now there have to be hundreds.
Commercial Narrator
Hundreds.
Monet X Change
They're definitely hundreds for sure, you know? Cause that's. Cause of Drag Race, right? We've seen this drag boom and it's a lot of fucking queens competing for these jobs. And yeah, I mean, it just. Whether it is. Whether you're a bartender or a food service employee working at hotel, whatever it is, it is just unfair to keep wages so low for three decades. Like, I could imagine what it costs to have a studio apartment in New York city in the 90s to now. I'm sure I don't know what the numbers are on that, but the percentage of that has increased is probably astronomical. And to keep what you get paid, the same is wild.
Bob the Drag Queen
When I moved into my Upper west side apartment, my rent was $1,100 for a two bedroom with no closets and mice. And I had mice.
Monet X Change
Templeton.
Bob the Drag Queen
Remember?
Monet X Change
Templeton. Templeton. That was wild. Templeton.
Bob the Drag Queen
Girl. I think Taylor named him Templeton, didn't he?
Monet X Change
He did.
Bob the Drag Queen
I remember that.
Monet X Change
I went to Bob's Power. I was like, I get to his house at the front door. He's like, monet, I'm stressed. I was like, what? He's like, monet, please do not act how you do. I just am stressed. And I have this problem.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm like, girl, what's going on?
Monet X Change
He's like, girl, I have mice. And y', all, when Bob has a situation like that, he is.
Bob the Drag Queen
In fact. Wait, let's tell the rest of the story after the break. Then we talk about your pest.
Monet X Change
He don't have any pests. His name is Patty. I started Ornod in 2013 and we make bike apparel. The best part of Shopify for me is our ability to run the business as essentially non technical people. We're able to admin everything on the back end, front end, and sell things online easily. If Shopify were a bike accessory, I think it would actually be the bicycle. It's the thing that you do the thing on. We run the business on Shopify. Start your free trial on shopify.com Jacob counts. Weird. He does one.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob is sign language three.
Monet X Change
Oh, is it?
Jacob
Yeah, because this the way that Most people do. 2. This is V in sign language. Oh, sorry. So does. Sorry. This is W. Sorry. This is W in sign language. So we distinguish between W and 3. This is 3.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is W. Anyway. And also internationally. That's how they do it too.
Monet X Change
Got it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, not necessarily, but everyone. Everyone counts different. And like, I think there are some countries where. Where one is. Is your thumb to the side.
Monet X Change
That makes sense.
Bob the Drag Queen
They're like, I would have one anyway or two.
Monet X Change
So when Bob has a little crisis like that, he gets. It's just so funny. Like. And you just like. I mean, having mice is stressful. I get that. That is stressful. You're just so dramatic. It's very funny.
Bob the Drag Queen
What it was, was if you ever had mice, they're. They're honestly pretty chill until they start nibbling on. Like when you are laying in bed, you can hear like a. Like, hear it like. And it drives you. They're like eating the trash or eating something in your. I was. I would have to put all. I put all of my food in the fridge. Cereal, flour, sugar. My cabinets were just for dishes. I could not put any food in the cabinets at all. I had to take my trash down every like twice a day. And I still had mice. I just lived in an old building. Anyway, when I moved to that apartment, it was eleven hundred dollars for a two bedroom. When I moved out in 2016, it was fifty. It went up to fifteen hundred dollars. And that was rent controlled.
Monet X Change
Gag.
Bob the Drag Queen
And not everyone lives in a rent controlled building, y'.
Monet X Change
All. Yeah, no, it's very. It's hard to get.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I moved there in 2008. I moved in 2000, maybe 2010. So there. No, I was 2009. I was there for 2009, 2016.
Monet X Change
Oh, wow, that's. That's a long stand. In an apartment in New York City, people be. Be like two years at max.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, you know, I. Look, you know, I was there for like seven years. I was. I was the Upper west side girly.
Monet X Change
Yeah. But then I moved to the highest.
Bob the Drag Queen
I really, I really love the apartment. The Heights too. Except. Oh, child, I'm here right now. If you ever get an apartment in New York City, you don't want to be on the corner. Don't be on the first floor on the corner. I was in the corner on the first floor, baby.
Monet X Change
Oh, the one in Washington Heights.
Bob the Drag Queen
The hangout spot, baby. I thought these people were in my home and I would be like. It sounded like they were literally in my bedroom talking with me right here. It was madness.
Monet X Change
I just like that all the queens is like, all the queens in New York City are like saying stuff. So I stand with the queens. Fucking pay us more money. Pay them more money. Like, do that. Have you seen Chapel?
Bob the Drag Queen
You think if you were still in New York City, you'd be that girl? If you were still in New York City, those girls would be seeing you the way we used to see Shaquita, which is.
Monet X Change
How do we see Shaquita?
Bob the Drag Queen
As an established Queen from the 90s. They were like, oh, you're one of those queens from the early 2000s.
Monet X Change
I was early 2000s though. I was. I was 2010 sunny.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, well, I started drag in 2009, so I guess I am the early 2000s. But most of my. Most of my reign.
Monet X Change
No, but your prince, your prayer was.
Bob the Drag Queen
It was in the 2010s. That's how they'd be looking at you. They'd be like, oh, you want to know queens from back. Back when. Drag Race on Logo. That's crazy. How was that what was it? You, Monet. You worked at bars that don't exist anymore. How's that feel?
Monet X Change
The only one. Therapy.
Bob the Drag Queen
You didn't work at Boots.
Monet X Change
I didn't work at Boots. Robert. Robert Ziegler did not hire me.
Bob the Drag Queen
I worked at a lot of bars that don't exist. A lot of bars. Boots and Princess Lounge. Boots, Therapy xl. Heaven. Oh.
Monet X Change
Excel. Wait, there was a heaven in New York.
Jada Fellow
Mm.
Bob the Drag Queen
East of 8th. Splash.
Jacob
TNT.
Bob the Drag Queen
I did TNT. Lavish lounge in Queens. And I'm probably forgetting some.
Monet X Change
Got it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, I never worked at Posh.
Monet X Change
Have you seen. Oh, shit. I just. I hate this about loading Facebook because. So we use Facebook to do this, and I open Facebook to get the link, but then. And I started singing what that Chapel Rowan said about boundaries, and I was gone. Huh.
Bob the Drag Queen
Chapel Roan.
Monet X Change
What'd I say?
Bob the Drag Queen
Rowan.
Monet X Change
Chapel Rowan.
Bob the Drag Queen
Rome. Like a bone.
Monet X Change
Got it.
Bob the Drag Queen
You don't say Bowen Chicken. Bowen.
Jada Fellow
I do.
Monet X Change
I say Bowen Yang.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. His name is Bowen with a W and the e in there. Bowen. What a beautiful name. Bowen is a really cute name.
Commercial Narrator
It is.
Monet X Change
I want to find.
Bob the Drag Queen
What's the origin of that name? Bowen.
Monet X Change
I don't know. I don't know what his. I don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jake, could you Google the. The.
Jacob
The.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do names have etymology? No. The origin, the only words. I don't think proper nouns have etymology. Do they.
Jacob
I mean, names have, like, some. Like a story.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, what would you call it? Etymology?
Jacob
I'm looking into it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know. Anyway, I'm trying to figure out what the origin of Bowen. Yang's Bowen. I love the name Bowen.
Jada Fellow
She.
Bob the Drag Queen
So Chapel Ron was talking about creating boundaries with her fans.
Monet X Change
Yeah, but how do you feel?
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you stand with Chapel or do you stand with the fans?
Monet X Change
No boundaries. 100%.
Bob the Drag Queen
Are you in the chat? Are you in the chapel, or are you outside like a sinner?
Monet X Change
I mean, I think. I think. I think she's such. She. I think she should. She should set boundaries. Set boundaries with her fans like it's your life.
Bob the Drag Queen
Are you having a fucking stroke? What is going on?
Monet X Change
I don't know why I can't. I don't know what's going on today. I haven't eaten yet. I'm like. Like hungry.
Bob the Drag Queen
You should come to Bronson and get some glazed donut.
Monet X Change
I ain't no glazed donut. I would not indulge in a glazed donut, whatever the fuck that is. That sounds crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
You don't have any soup you can warm up?
Monet X Change
No, I'm gonna eat some soup after this Actually, Bob, you gotta get into the Whole Food soups. The Whole Food soups are so good. They're so good.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let me talk to all of you Whole Food girlies. I've been to Whole Foods. There are certain people who are like. They stand in these grocery stores, and the two of them are Whole Foods and Trader Joe's. And y' all are crazy about these stores. Like, I get it. The Trader Joe's girls are in Trader Joe's.
Jacob
Different.
Monet X Change
Trader Joe's. People are different.
Bob the Drag Queen
Is the only grocery store I've ever been to where I have seen New Yorkers on the train with their groceries. If you're on the. You only see be on the train with Trader Joe's. No one is going further than a train stop to get groceries unless they're going specifically to Trader. I don't know what can be so great about what they have over Trader Joe's. And I know that Trader Joe's is.
Monet X Change
They.
Bob the Drag Queen
They have, like, all. All their stuff is like Trader Joe brand. Like, there's. You can't get that stuff anywhere else, I don't think.
Monet X Change
Yeah, that's true. You can only get a Trader Joe's. Yeah, but I'm not. I don't stand Trader Joe's like that. I go there, like, once in a while. They have good hummus and different things. But I'm not a Trader Joe's fan.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like that.
Monet X Change
I'm not a whole.
Bob the Drag Queen
Don't say hunt either.
Monet X Change
Don't say what?
Bob the Drag Queen
Hummus. In front of Nick. Nick is currently in an Internet beef with everyone who likes hummus.
Monet X Change
Why? What did he say?
Bob the Drag Queen
He doesn't like hummus. He thinks it tastes like baby food.
Monet X Change
Okay. I didn't like hummus for a while until I went to that restaurant downtown, Bevelle in la, and I was like, oh, my God, this is really good hummus. And it turned me onto the goodness of hummus. Now I'm really into hummus.
Bob the Drag Queen
You didn't like, I'm really into hummus. I'm so into hummus right now. You didn't like hummus? He moved to la.
Monet X Change
I didn't like hummus before. I just didn't like it. I'm like, I don't want no mashed peas, but now I like it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I guess you and Nick were on the same page. So Nick can't go to the beach.
Monet X Change
They have similar things. Like the whole thing about the beaches in fucking Midwest. We were on the same page of that, too. I'm like, it's not a fucking beach. It's a goddamn link.
Bob the Drag Queen
Then maybe he says, because you're both from the Caribbean, maybe. Maybe y' all should start. Maybe y' all two should start a fucking podcast together. And then me and Mateo will do ours.
Monet X Change
We said it last time that we were gonna start one together. But I have a question we're not gonna talk about.
Bob the Drag Queen
We didn't really delve into chaperone thing at all.
Monet X Change
Why can't find a quote means like a. Oh, thank you, Jacob.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can we put the video in?
Monet X Change
There's a video of her saying it. I don't know. I just.
Bob the Drag Queen
A whole TikTok video where she's like, I don't give a. She's like, really? Yes. So me and more are going to watch it right now. But. But don't. Don't play us playing it. Put the actual video right here.
Monet X Change
Wait, send me. Send me the link for. Is it on her Instagram or on her TikTok?
Bob the Drag Queen
On her TikTok.
Jada Fellow
I don't care that abuse and harassment, stalking, whatever, is a normal thing to do to people who are harassing famous or a little famous, whatever. I don't care that it's normal. I don't care that this crazy type of behavior comes along with the job, the career field I've chosen. That does not make it okay. That doesn't make it normal. I don't. It doesn't mean I want. It doesn't mean that I like it. I don't want whatever the you think you're supposed to be entitled to whenever you see a celebrity. I'll give a if you think it's selfish of me to say no for a photo or for your time or to. For a hug. That's not normal. That's weird. It's weird how people think that you know a person just because you see them online or you listen to the art they make. That's weird. I'm allowed to say no to creepy behavior. Okay?
Bob the Drag Queen
So I love what she goes. I don't give a fuck. I'm like, honestly, she is standing on business. Don't fuck with Big Ron. Don't fuck with Big Roan in this bitch. Big Red. Big Ron, Big Roan, Big Red.
Monet X Change
Obviously, I think that all her thoughts about it are valid. Like, they're her things to have. I do think that. Like, I do think there is this, like, when you are a public celebrity, a public figure, a public restroom. When you're a public rest in the restroom, anyone can use you. No. When you are like, I don't know, because again, I Am not nearly as famous or well known as Chaperone. She's literally one of the biggest artists right now. I am not even a modicum of how, you know, like, I am this big. So what I get compared to her is probably drastically different. But, like, I do think. I do think that you are entitled to say no. And people cannot get upset at you for saying no for a picture because you don't know what I'm going through. You don't know what's happening. You don't know, like, you can set those boundaries. People have to respect that. But I can't. But I don't think you can be mad at people approaching you for that. You can set the boundaries and you can say no, but you can't be upset that people do because you are a public thing. And she says something about, oh, how, like, don't think you know me because you listen to my songs, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I think that, like, in music, especially at a base level, like, you're making these connections. People are connecting to your music. So, yes, they don't know you, but that's kind of what music is like. You're connecting with the person. You're connecting with that artist. Like, you think through their stories about love, loss, life, drama, sex, whatever it is, you're making this connection. So I agree that they don't know you, but you can't be mad that people are making that connection, because that's kind of what music is about.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think you can be mad. I. I think that the fans can get mad that Chaperone said no because their feelings are hurt, but that doesn't mean that Chaperone has a whole space for that. Like, the artist does not have the whole space for you being angry because they said no to you. And I think that you're allowed to be annoyed that they are annoyed, because it is an annoying feeling when someone goes online and it's like, chaperone was a bitch. I asked her for a picture, and she said no.
Monet X Change
That's.
Bob the Drag Queen
In my opinion, you are absolutely allowed to be mad about that. There have been times where I have been, like, walking around the city or somewhere lately especially, and I just start crying because I miss my mom. And I'm just like. I'm literally just like. I just start crying, and someone like, can I get a picture? I'm like, I'm having a moment. I'm having a moment. And maybe I don't know that I'm crying, but I'm like, you know, pushing tears back or Something, or I'm upset about something and they don't know that I'm having a moment. They're not aware of that. All they know is that Bob the Drag Queen said no to their picture.
Monet X Change
Yeah, that's all.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's all they see.
Monet X Change
No, I agree. I agree that, like, ish, you, her, me, whoever you are, completely can say no. But I think to me, what it is, like, being upset about it, like, is like, like, bitch, I'm gonna say no, and my no is my no. Like, that's what the fuck I'm saying. But like, I don't be. And again, that's just. This is just my own personal belief, my philosophy. But, but, but I don't be like, walking around like this fucking stupid ass fucking fucker, like, it just ruined my name.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's not completely true because you have been annoyed. We had a whole podcast about a fan who had a weird interaction with you, and then the fan was weird to you and you were very upset at their reaction, which, by the way, you're. About who? Money. We had an entire podcast.
Monet X Change
When? Recently.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, it was a while back. The guy from Florida who said you were mean to him and you were quite upset about his response to you.
Monet X Change
Guy at. Where was it? Wilson Manors.
Bob the Drag Queen
And. And by the way, in my opinion, your response to him is valid. Your feelings are completely valid. That is a strange scenario to find yourself in. And the real truth is this, y'. All, again, we're not as famous as Chapel Roan, but no one. There is no. There is no handbook. There is no orientation. When you become famous, you are just out there. You are now famous. And it is what it is. There is no. There's no celebrity group therapy sessions. There probably are. I haven't been invited to one.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I'm sure they exist. I'm sure there's therapy for celebrity. Something like weird.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let's talk more about when we get back.
Monet X Change
No, we're going to talk about it when we get back.
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Monet X Change
style, every home I think that your
Bob the Drag Queen
feelings are valid and it's okay to be like this was really an upsetting thing. I'm annoyed that this person is now trashing me on the Internet and telling everyone that I was mean because I didn't want to take a picture with them.
Monet X Change
That is true. That was.
Bob the Drag Queen
I guess.
Monet X Change
I guess I have. There's been seldom experiences where I've or maybe I probably fucking don't remember when someone like the lying and saying that but I guess that's up to everyone's interpretation. Someone could feel like you were bullying them or mean or you spit on spit in their face because you don't want a picture. And that's like.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well sometimes it's not a lie. Sometimes it's just their feel like for example, who's the.
Monet X Change
No, this guy. No, no, no, no. The guy in Florida was lying. He was literally just. He was literally fabricating things. He's just making shit up.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like the guy in. Who's the guy who. He's the new Iron Man. What's his name?
Monet X Change
The new Iron Man. There's only one Iron Man. Tony Stark?
Jacob
No, there's no War Machine.
Monet X Change
War Machine. You mean Don John Cheadle?
Bob the Drag Queen
No. Maybe it's not Iron Man. The new Captain America. Thank you.
Monet X Change
Oh Anthony something.
Bob the Drag Queen
Him.
Monet X Change
Anthony.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm not really in the Marvel verse like that, but the new Captain America apparent, Anthony Mackie. Apparently, everyone's like, anthony Mackie don't have no qualms telling you no. For a picture, Anthony Mackie would be like, no, no. And turn back and do what the fuck he's doing. And a lot of folks online were like, yeah, I met Anthony Mackie. And he was like. And they're not. I don't know. They're aligned because I wasn't there. But their stories don't seem like they're lies. They just seem like Anthony Mackie is really firm in his boundaries.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
And he said no. And they think that's rude. Now, I don't know if Anthony Mackie has ever spoken about this, but if he's irritated by that, to me, that makes sense. All you're doing is being like, no, thank you. Yeah, no, thank you. You know what I mean?
Monet X Change
But I think that her boundaries are completely valid and she should set them. I just think that people are like fans. Being upset and mad at her for boundaries is wild to me. Like, you cannot be mad at someone's boundaries. Like, you just can't. Like, she doesn't want to take a picture. She doesn't want to take a picture. That part.
Bob the Drag Queen
But they can't be mad. That's what. They can be mad.
Monet X Change
But I think. I think. I think, okay, you can be. I think it is unreasonable to be mad about that. You cannot be. Like, to me, it is unreasonable to be upset with me because I don't want to take a picture with you. To me, that is unreasonable. And that is insane to me now, to you. But I think that is wild to be upset that I don't want to take a picture with you. That I don't want to take a picture with you.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, it's something I wouldn't be upset about. But I could see how someone is really, really disappointed or their feelings are hurt because they looked up to this moment and then they were like, damn, my feelings are hurt because I thought that. I really thought I was going to get a picture with Chapel Rohn. I thought Monet was going to get a picture with me. Um, and I just really put myself out there. But again, you know, when. When. When I see celebrities, I don't really ask for pictures. Like you and I very aggressively accosted Lindsay Lohan for a picture. I don't know if you remember this. We were out, and Monet was like, I want a picture with Lindsay Lohan. And then I was like, oh, okay. And then Monet was like, no, I'm getting a picture. And Lindsay tried to leave and Monet was like, lindsey.
Monet X Change
Oh. So what was your part in all of this? Cause you were right there in the picture too.
Bob the Drag Queen
So what's your picture? I took the picture.
Monet X Change
Right?
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm not in the picture.
Monet X Change
I mean, I'm saying. I meant like you, You. You're part of the experience. Are you saying Mon. You was there too?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, you handed me the phone.
Monet X Change
Oh. I was just like, no, cuz Patty was there. You said, I'll take the picture.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I said, I'll take your picture.
Monet X Change
Okay. So you were part of the tell
Bob the Drag Queen
that Monet grabbed Lindsay.
Monet X Change
Grab her, Patrick.
Bob the Drag Queen
Right?
Monet X Change
I did not grab her.
Bob the Drag Queen
You can call Patrick, right?
Monet X Change
You are sprinkling your own thing. That's not true.
Bob the Drag Queen
We're calling her. We're calling Patrick. We are calling. Wasn't Mateo there too?
Monet X Change
I don't remember who was there.
Bob the Drag Queen
Was it Taylor?
Monet X Change
Oh my God, you just got so country.
Bob the Drag Queen
Was it.
Monet X Change
Was it Mateo there too? Or was it Tyler? The hell?
Bob the Drag Queen
I do not talk a Tyler. I don't. Please. I said, or was it.
Monet X Change
And Jay, please rewind the footage because you said or was.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're on the podcast. I. I figured.
Jacob
What's up?
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you remember when. When Monet exchange accosted Lindsay Lohan for a picture?
Monet X Change
Okay, you're leading it with language. I'm about some accosting.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you remember this time, Patrick? I think accosting is a strong word. I do think that she was very energetically intent on getting a photo with Lindsay. Here's my question. Did she.
Jacob
Which I.
Bob the Drag Queen
Did she touch Lindsay Lohan?
Jada Fellow
I don't think so. No.
Monet X Change
Thank you. Thank you. And for that, thank you for coming to my show. Thank you.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, Lindsay Lohan did look scared, but she did not touch him. All right, well, that's Patrick's. Thank you, Patrick. She touched her. All right. What is this, Jacob? I can't see this. What is this, guys?
Monet X Change
Because Bob said that. Because Bob has been spinning this narrative.
Jacob
Sibling Rivalry Season 2 Episode 7 February 5, 2019 the One Where Monet Grabbed Lindsay Lohan. If you want to go back and
Bob the Drag Queen
hear the full story.
Monet X Change
Yeah, because Bob has been spinning this narrative that I.
Bob the Drag Queen
I lifted her over
Monet X Change
your head, but I was acting like I was silk. I was like I was Silky Nutmeg
Bob the Drag Queen
Naj meeting her, and she had just lost that little part of her finger.
Monet X Change
He acting like I'm fucking Silky meeting. What's her name? Aunt Hannah. Miley, let's not do that. I was energetic. I was like, oh, my God, Lindsay, I'm a big fan of yours. Can I please have a picture? You imagine me. First of all, she was flanked with security. So Bob was acting like I grabbed the bike. She was not flank with security.
Bob the Drag Queen
She was in flank.
Monet X Change
She had a security guard with her. She absolutely did. And my.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, what flank was security or a security guard was in the building. Monet was like, there was a guy at the front door. And she went from flanked to like. There was a cop three blocks down the street.
Monet X Change
He was walking. They were walking down the hallway to the security guard.
Bob the Drag Queen
You grabbed her, Monet. I didn't say you grabbed her, but you was like. Cause Lindsey was walking away. And Monet reached out and touched Lindsay's arm. Do you know there's another rude girl who had an instance with Lindsay Lohan where she was at that fancy restaurant over in. Where The Hills meets WeHo. And she. She went to. Lindsay Lohan was like, can I get a picture? And Lindsay Lohan was like, I don't want to take a picture with you. And then the girl said to Lindsay, okay, that's okay. And she. And Lindsay goes, I know. It's okay.
Monet X Change
Work.
Bob the Drag Queen
And she was like, huh? She's like, yeah, it's okay. It's okay.
Monet X Change
Who is it?
Bob the Drag Queen
I'll tell you later.
Monet X Change
You can't say the rules.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'll tell you later. I just said, I'll tell you later. You remember I talked about boundaries? You respect your chapels.
Monet X Change
Respect mine. No, I always say chapels. I will never respect your boundaries.
Bob the Drag Queen
That I know. Boundaries that we made abundantly clear. You don't respect boundaries.
Monet X Change
You're. No, I don't respect your boundaries.
Bob the Drag Queen
And you don't say that is a problem.
Monet X Change
No, I don't.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wow, that is so toxic. That's the most toxic I. I have ever heard in my life. You are toxic. You are a toxic. You are a toxic, toxic drag queen. Do you know that?
Monet X Change
That being.
Bob the Drag Queen
Anyway, someone. Lindsay Lohan chime in.
Monet X Change
Imagine if Lindsay chimed in. Imagine.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes, she grabbed me. Fully grabbed me.
Monet X Change
Anyway, first of all, Lindsay probably doesn't remember that interaction. When was that? 2019,
Bob the Drag Queen
maybe.
Monet X Change
Maybe.
Jada Fellow
Yeah.
Monet X Change
Yeah. It had to have been because the episode came out in February. Anyway.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
That being said, I stand chapel being like her. How she's talking about it. I fucking live for it. She would have worked.
Bob the Drag Queen
You followed Sza onto the plane.
Monet X Change
I was right. I was actually going to Tucson, Arizona, and I saw Sza. I just got.
Bob the Drag Queen
Who was the one playing first you were her.
Monet X Change
I don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
You don't remember if you walked in or she walked past you? You don't remember?
Monet X Change
I don't remember if you listen to the fucking story or listen when I told it on this podcast. I didn't realize on the same flight until we were on the thing already and I was so.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're already in the air.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Was she in front of you? Behind you?
Monet X Change
She was behind me. Oh, my God, you are such a scissor.
Bob the Drag Queen
You heard that? Monet said you're behind her.
Monet X Change
You're such a fucking annoying human being.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's crazy. I like you. I don't know why Monet considers you beneath her. Sorry. Behind her.
Monet X Change
You are so annoying.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm sorry. Sza.
Monet X Change
Oh, my God. See, this is why. This is why we said we can never have a Sza and Lizzo relationship. You see how they are besties.
Bob the Drag Queen
Cause they sza in who relationship.
Monet X Change
Lizzo. Sizzo if you nasty.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, well, they're fucking famous. They're both famous.
Jada Fellow
Yeah.
Monet X Change
And they respect each other's boundaries and they're nice to each other.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think you and I have a very strong relationship.
Monet X Change
And we don't. Not like Sizzo. We could. We could be Sizzo. But you and I are fucking.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know who the fuck we're. Bomo. Wow. Have you forgotten already what we are? I think that it's very clear that you and I have a very strong relationship. You know what? My side is strong. Maybe your side's weak.
Monet X Change
Maybe.
Bob the Drag Queen
Maybe. Maybe you're the weak link in this relationship.
Monet X Change
Well, consider. Consider.
Commercial Narrator
Why?
Monet X Change
Consider the source of the weakness.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. So it was you. I just said. I just said it was you. I feel very strong and firm in our relationship. Nigger money. Stop doing that. Is not okay. You're wild for that one. Wait, what was we talking about today? Girl, we are.
Monet X Change
We are. I mean, it kind of makes sense because it's in the thing, but we're going to talk about being Freaky Friday.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wait, what was the topic going to be?
Monet X Change
Freaky.
Bob the Drag Queen
Is that Lindsay Lohan?
Monet X Change
It is Lindsay Lohan. So it kind of works, actually.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wait, okay, so if I recall Freaky Fridays where she's with Jamie Lee Curtis and they switched bodies.
Monet X Change
Correct.
Bob the Drag Queen
And Lindsay Lohan is now the mom. And the mom is now those movies. I'm like, what is the acting like in one of those movies where you are the actor? Like, obviously, it's just Jamie Lee Curtis playing the character that Lindsay Lohan made. So Lindsay Lohan has to Create the character. Then Jamie Lee Curtis has to emulate the character that Lindsay Lohan created. So it's like the movie Face Off. John Travolta and Nicolas Cage are playing each other's characters.
Monet X Change
I never seen it.
Bob the Drag Queen
So in Face Off, Castor Troi is this criminal and he has all the intel or he has the connections. And then John, I can't remember which one's which. It's so confusing. But John Travolta and Castor and Nicholas Cage switch faces so that the detective can move around as the criminal. They literally just change faces and then he moves around as the criminal. And I think Nick Cage is the criminal, I'm pretty sure. But Nick Cage is playing John Travolta playing Nick Cage. Does that make any sense at all?
Monet X Change
No. I gotta see it.
Bob the Drag Queen
No. Okay, listen, I'll make it me and you. Monet is an international criminal. I am a detective. Okay? Monet is in prison, But I need Monet's secrets. So we go into the prison, take Monet, abduct her, we put her under anesthesia, take her face off of her face, take my face off of mine, and I. You put your face on me. So I am now walking around, people think I'm Monet X change. Right?
Monet X Change
But now I'm a detective.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, you are just laying on the table with no face.
Monet X Change
Got it?
Bob the Drag Queen
But then at some point, you wake up with no face and you're like, oh, shit, I don't have a face. And then you find the doctor and you force him to put my face on your face. And now we have a problem because now you are the detective and you're free. Right? And I am now a prisoner locked inside of a prison.
Monet X Change
Got it?
Bob the Drag Queen
That's the concept of the movie.
Monet X Change
Got it. That actually sounds good. You know, I have a thing about, like, old. It's not an old movie, but like, things like before. That's not true. I like some, like, I don't like. Do you like black and white movies? I cannot watch a black and white movie. Some of them I just can't get into it. I don't like that there's no color. Anyway, if we were to Freaky Friday, do you think that you could pull it off?
Bob the Drag Queen
So, like, I'm you and you're me?
Monet X Change
Yeah. Do you think that you could pull me off and people wouldn't know?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, Easily.
Monet X Change
Easily?
Bob the Drag Queen
Easily.
Monet X Change
Why easily?
Bob the Drag Queen
Easily. Questions. Could you pull me off?
Monet X Change
100%.
Bob the Drag Queen
And what makes you so sure of that?
Monet X Change
I just know your manners. I know how you behave. I Know how ridiculous you. You do things.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm not ridiculous. I don't like your little notion that I'm some ridiculous maniac.
Monet X Change
I didn't say you're a maniacalist. I did not say you're a maniac. But you're very eccentric and I think I could definitely pull it off.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. Can you talk like me when you're freaking Friday? Do you. You have each other's voice. You have.
Monet X Change
You have the voice raise. I don't have to like do an impersonation. I already talk like you.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think once people start seeing that slew footed little walk, they'll be like, that's not Bob.
Monet X Change
I. Okay. I don't carry over the things from my body like I, I am.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think that. I don't think that my mannerisms are necessarily be. I think my body attributes to it. Like if I have a limp. Yes, Right. But like, let's say you switch bodies with your brother, right? When you're in his body, you might start swishing. And when he's in your body, you stop.
Monet X Change
He.
Bob the Drag Queen
You would stop. He would stop swishing.
Monet X Change
No, I think that's like. I think that's how my body moves.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, that's cause you're gay, Monae. There's a reason why gay guys and women swish and mostly straight men don't.
Monet X Change
Yes. Do you swish?
Bob the Drag Queen
Little more than my brother. I don't slog around like a Clydesdale.
Monet X Change
Slog?
Bob the Drag Queen
What the fuck does slog around mean? I'm not like some big heavy footed monster. But I think that there is something to our socialization why gay men and women swish more than straight men do.
Monet X Change
What is, what, what is the first thing you're gonna do as you
Bob the Drag Queen
Nick said?
Monet X Change
Assault Lindsay Lohan?
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I. I don't really have anything that I'm like trying to do as Monet exchange. I don't have like things that I'm like trying. I mean, maybe I'll eat something that you. That your taste buds likes and see if I can. Because I think a big part of. I think the reason people like think they eat they like is because their taste buds are just different. Right. So maybe I see if there's something you like that I don't normally like to see if I could enjoy it.
Monet X Change
Mustard.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, like mustard. I really don't. I think if you were in my body, you would find most mustard. Repulsive. Truly. I also feel like in a true Freaky Friday situation, if it was true Freaky Friday, you wouldn't even know you switched bodies because.
Monet X Change
No, you do know. In the movie, they literally know as soon as they wake up. What do you mean?
Bob the Drag Queen
But I said, in a true Freaky Friday, in a true Freaky Friday moment, I don't think you would actually know that you switched bodies.
Monet X Change
Okay, what do you mean true? Like, where's the true coming from? Like, the movie is the blueprint. Like that they made it up.
Bob the Drag Queen
But let's say. But I mean, if it was a real thing in the world. If your entity inhabited my entity, like your soul inhabited my body, and my soul inhabited your body, you would also inherit my mind, which is a big part of how I'm thinking. So you would end up thinking just like me. So, yes, our souls may have swapped, but I don't think we actually know. There's a chance that our souls are swapping all the time. We don't even know about it.
Monet X Change
I don't think so.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's a possibility.
Monet X Change
I think that in, like, you're thinking of a Truth or Good Friday, I think because of your mind, like, your mind is immediately gonna realize I'm not in the body, that I'm. The brain is so fucking smart. So your brain will be like, I'm not in the body I'm normally in. This does not feel right. These are not the hands I normally have, the feet I normally use. My body does not feel how it norma normally though.
Bob the Drag Queen
But the brain isn't swapping. Only the soul is swapping. We're not swapping brains. I used. You will be having my brain, so you'll finally have some kidding. You would have my brain and I would have your brain. Like, our brains aren't moving. It's not a brain transplant, huh? But I would have all of your thoughts, your feelings, your memories. Maybe I don't understand why you'd be acting like this,
Monet X Change
but I think that the soul. The soul is what is. The soul is what is powering this whole situation. The soul is going to be like. This feels foreign. This is not what this is. Not this. This is not the body. I normally inhab it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think that's where you and I And I think that's where you and I have different thoughts. Because I don't believe in souls. Like, I believe the brain is really.
Monet X Change
You literally said our souls be stopping all the time. Now you. Now you don't believe in it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I also don't believe that Freaky Friday is a real thing, but in a Freaky Friday scenario, I believe what Swapping is the soul, not the brain. But also if the soul is the thing, all the information is locked into the brain. It's not in your soul, it's in
Monet X Change
your brain, but in this reality that you're creating of there being a soul. And these souls can't. So you do believe in. In this reality, you do believe in souls.
Bob the Drag Queen
So this reality. Yes, exactly.
Monet X Change
And I'm saying this reality of souls, I think the soul is. The more the soul is what is powering this whole thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Without the soul, I don't believe that. I believe the brain's powering and the soul is just like. I would say if the brain is. No, if the brain is like. If the brain is like the motor of the car, the soul might be like the oil, like the motor oil, which might be more like blood, quite frankly. But like the brain is what actually has all the knowledge, information, the memories, all that stuff is in the brain. And the soul is just kind of like this thing that, like, wisp into the air. Like, let's say, for example, you're someone who believes in reincarnation, right? Your soul is bouncing around, but you don't retain any memories from before because your soul is not powering it. Your soul is just giving you the actual life force. Let's say the soul is a thing that just. That gives you actual life force. But the brain is doing all the heavy lifting.
Monet X Change
But again, without the soul, the brain cannot do anything because the soul is powering the thing. So without the soul, this entire shit is useless. It is just lifeless, on the floor, dead. Nothing can be done. The soul is the power. The soul is what is giving this thing the energy and everything to work. So I think the soul is the most important thing because without the soul, this shit is nothing. The soul can come in this body, and without the brain or the mind, it's not functioning correctly or it's doing stupid shit. It can still work, but the soul is what makes it work. Their soul powers it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you think flies have souls?
Monet X Change
I don't know. I haven't thought that deeply about it. If I had to think. Does a fly. Yeah, I think everything that's moving and living, it has a soul.
Bob the Drag Queen
Now, trees have souls.
Monet X Change
Do what?
Bob the Drag Queen
Do trees have souls?
Monet X Change
Oh, for sure. Look at what's the name in Pocahontas? Grandmother Willow. That's a soul in the tree.
Bob the Drag Queen
Grass has. Does grass have soul?
Monet X Change
Yeah, I think it's a soul. I don't think it's as. It's as intelligent. I do think that souls. There is a hierarchy of souls. Like some souls are super sophisticated. Some souls aren't.
Bob the Drag Queen
But that's why I say I don't think the souls are sophisticated. The reason why grass isn't sophisticated isn't because of its soul. It's because it doesn't have a brain. So if there is a soul in grass, the reason why the grass is not sophisticated is because of the brain, not the soul, which is why the soul of a dog, if there are souls, the soul of the dog would not be as sophisticated as the soul of a human. But it's not the actual soul. It's just the brain itself is not as sophisticated.
Monet X Change
But that's where I differ, I think, because again, if we didn't have like, let's say a soul came into this body and I didn't have. Okay, wait, what are the three things? Mind, body, soul. Right. These are the three things that you need to be to functional. A mind, which is the brain, a body, which is the physical thing, and a soul, which is the thing that you can't see. And I think out of those three things, those big three, you need all three of those equally to run the thing. So, like.
Bob the Drag Queen
But this is not in the theater world. This is what you actually believe. You really believe in mind, body and soul.
Monet X Change
No, I'm talking about in this world. In this world we're talking about. Yeah, but.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, that's what that.
Monet X Change
With a thumbs down. It drives me crazy. I don't know why it drives me crazy. We got.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm just very disappointed in you.
Monet X Change
We have to turn them off.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, we're not. Turn yours on. Get on my level. Yeah, I feel like the soul is like, you know, the soul is like, oh, maybe this cigarette better now. The soul is like charging your phone. When you're charging your phone, the charge is not actually what's making the phone do the stuff. It's the. It's the little computer in there, it's the microchip. That's what's making the phone do all of its stuff. You know what I mean? The actual body, the hardware of the phone is the body, the chip in there is the mind, and then the charge is the soul. Now, no matter where you charge it, no matter where you charge it, it's going to be the same phone. It's going to be the same phone, but the charge is what gives it the life in my scenario. But I guess you and I are writing different Freaky Friday movies.
Monet X Change
Is that what a cinema rivalry movie is going to be? A version of Freaky Friday?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, we already know what our movie is going to be about.
Monet X Change
Don't say it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I didn't say I was going to say it. But I mean, should we just make our own movie at this point?
Monet X Change
Honestly, if we honestly bitch. If we took all the resources for Bumo. If we took all the Bumo resources, we could have three or four feature films by now. We could beat them. We could be Tyler Perry up in
Bob the Drag Queen
this girl Silver Rivalry eight Girl.
Monet X Change
We could have been on our shell. Squeakle. Who the. By now.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, maybe, you know, let's go ahead and invest in our. In our movie.
Monet X Change
I'm down. What does your shirt say, Brick? What?
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, do you hear that?
Jada Fellow
No.
Bob the Drag Queen
Is that Harry Cornick Jr. My shirt says what does it say? Can you read it to me?
Monet X Change
Warwick County, Indiana Pride. I've never seen a movie. Severance. But Severance is like. I think Severance is not a movie.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's a TV show.
Monet X Change
Hbo?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, it's on Apple tv.
Monet X Change
Okay. That's the one where you, like, go to work and you leave your. Like you leave your work at work. Like, like you can detect.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. So Severus is on Apple tv.
Monet X Change
What's the other one that works that shows I'm thinking about. I didn't see that one either.
Bob the Drag Queen
Succession. Isn't that about, like, families and like wasps? Yeah, but I keep on.
Monet X Change
Because they're one S word. Like, that's like keep on mixing them up.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's fair. So Severance is about a procedure you get where you split yourself into two personalities. And when you go to work, basically, if your personality A, you have the sensation of walking into work and the next thing you know, you're walking out of work.
Monet X Change
Right.
Bob the Drag Queen
That is how your brain works. And if you have personality, baby, you have this situation of walking into work and the moment you leave work, you are immediately walking back into work.
Monet X Change
Right. Which is crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
The moment you leave work, you are right back at work.
Monet X Change
People think about these concepts for these shows, like, how do people. That's. That's. That's such a great concert. For sure. I need to watch it. Was it good?
Bob the Drag Queen
I love this show. I've had people say that they feel like it moves a little slow. I think it is a very, very, very good show. I think it is so well written. I think it is. The acting is fantastic. And I just feel so bad for the severed, for the workers in the severest situation. But also the people who are personality A, they don't. They don't. They literally have no idea who they're working with, who their co workers Are they don't know anything.
Monet X Change
Is it the same. But it's the same person, though. Just two different personalities.
Bob the Drag Queen
Literally the same body.
Monet X Change
Got it. I mean, but then. But then for the person who is only working, like, they don't know anything else. So it's not like they're not missing out on anything because they don't. They don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, that's the concept. But then someone's like, but we do know that we intrinsically know that this feels wrong. Like, so I know that it feels wrong.
Monet X Change
I'm gonna watch it. Don't spoil it.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I would never. I would never spoil.
Monet X Change
So when you say we know it's
Bob the Drag Queen
wrong, I did fully just spoil the movie Face off, but I think the movie came off like 20 years ago, so I don't feel too bad about that.
Monet X Change
When you say we know it's wrong, you mean, like, the characters in the show are like, as the viewer watching
Bob the Drag Queen
the characters are like, it feels wrong that we're always working. Like, they know that there is a. They know that there is a. Is a. 27 years ago. No, 20. Oh, my God, 27 years ago. Face all came out. That's crazy. They know that there is a person who is on the outside who is them. They know they're the same person, and they know that that person is the one who made the decision to put them in there.
Monet X Change
I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna watch it.
Bob the Drag Queen
And it's almost like a new personality. Yeah.
Monet X Change
Because they have. They. I mean, they're having two completely different experiences.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, but they also don't remember their childhood or anything. Like, they don't know anything.
Monet X Change
The one person, the one working doesn't know. Doesn't remember the how.
Bob the Drag Queen
But they.
Monet X Change
To get to that point, how did they. Like, they grew up.
Bob the Drag Queen
The innie doesn't know the any. Does not know anything about the Audi. No.
Monet X Change
But to become the innie, you had, like, so they just remember just appearing at this age of 35 and they were just working, basically. I thought they would remember, like, every.
Jacob
You have to watch it, but it starts with somebody awakening from the process. Like, the first scene is somebody waking up from the process being done to them and learning about what's happening.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, they cover it pretty well. It's part of the procedure. Would you ever get that done?
Monet X Change
No.
Bob the Drag Queen
What if you worked a 9 to 5, though?
Monet X Change
I don't know. I mean, to be honest, like, I liked my 9 to 5 job. I know. You know, it was also not a traditional 9 to 5. Like, I would do, like 11 to 7. And so, like, I liked working at the hotel. I had a great time working at a hotel. I mean, I think I lucked out on having a job that I didn't hate, you know, before drag. But I like to work in a hotel, so.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, they also say that. I mean, this is a bit of a spoiler alert.
Monet X Change
No.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, never mind.
Monet X Change
Thank you. I don't like spoilers at all. You know who loves spoilers? Fucking Jada.
Jada Fellow
Feo.
Monet X Change
Jada fellow loves a spoiler.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, Jacob loves a spoiler too.
Jacob
Jacob.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob. Jacob. We will sit down for a movie. And the moment the credits roll, Jacob has already googled the whole movie.
Monet X Change
That's insane to me. You don't want.
Bob the Drag Queen
He knows how it's going to end. The whole thing.
Monet X Change
Jacob, what is that about? Do you just not want to be in surprises? Like you to don't want. You don't want to watch the film and be, like, excited about what's gonna happen? Like, you just. You wanna know everything going in?
Jacob
Well, I think it's two different things. I think, first of all, I don't like horror movies. So if I'm watching a horror movie, I need to know everything that happens so I know when I, like, don't wanna look. And I would like to know what happens. Part two is if we start watching a movie. I think Bob exaggerated a little bit when he said, I like looking at the movie at the beginning.
Monet X Change
No, Jacob, Bob wouldn't exaggerate. No, no.
Jacob
But like, if 15 minutes into the movie, it's not a good time, then I will look ahead to be like, what's coming? Like, when does that get go? For example, we started watching Guava Island, I think, with.
Monet X Change
With. With. With Rihanna.
Bob the Drag Queen
Rihanna and Donald glover.
Jacob
And after 15 minutes, I was like, I don't think we should finish this movie.
Bob the Drag Queen
Have you seen it? I loved was a. For me, Guava island is a categorically bad film.
Monet X Change
I watched it in a pandemic. I loved it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Loved it. What about Guava island did you like?
Monet X Change
I like the music. I love the fashion. I love that. It was, you know, about being in the Caribbean. I loved it.
Bob the Drag Queen
But what was it about, though?
Monet X Change
It was about these two people meeting.
Bob the Drag Queen
But can you give me any more specifics?
Monet X Change
I haven't seen.
Bob the Drag Queen
You just named every movie. Two people meeting. You just named. You just named every movie that ever existed. What was the movie about?
Monet X Change
It's been a long time. Well, I saw the movie four. Four years ago. Five years ago.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can you Tell what the Notebook's about.
Monet X Change
It's about. I've seen a Notebook hundreds of times.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm just saying it seems like you can tell me. Can you tell me what the Color Purple's about?
Monet X Change
I've seen the color purple 100. You gotta give me a comparable thing. What have I seen one? I don't know. Name a movie. I'll tell you if I've seen it once.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can you tell me what that Aquaman movie we saw was about?
Monet X Change
Like, I've seen. No, I mean, kids. Is a superhero movie. He was born a merman, a mer person on land, and now he's trying to get the throne back. Like, I think Broad Strokes. Like, I've seen once on this island. I saw that twice, and I can't
Jacob
remember what the fuck.
Monet X Change
What that was about. It was a Timu. And we too.
Bob the Drag Queen
Her name is Timun, not Timu.
Monet X Change
Timun.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, Timu. Is that motherfucking. You don't remember what once the Island's about?
Monet X Change
I don't remember. And I saw that with you, right? Did we go see that together?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I've seen it a few times, so we probably saw together. Yeah.
Monet X Change
Ahsoka was Alex Newell's character. That's all I remember.
Bob the Drag Queen
Asaka.
Monet X Change
Asaka.
Bob the Drag Queen
Just stop saying names. Please stop.
Monet X Change
Please, I beg of you, do not come.
Bob the Drag Queen
I tell you my favorite thing.
Monet X Change
So Andy and I, we got into a fight about something. Well, we got into a fight when we were going to.
Bob the Drag Queen
We were going to Civil Robbery Live,
Monet X Change
and we got, like, a thing go down there. So I would. I drove down, and he ended up riding with me, and then he was gonna meet me there because I was so annoyed. I just sent him the meme of Kamala Harris, do not come.
Bob the Drag Queen
Did you really. Did you really send that?
Jada Fellow
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, Andy came. Andy did not listen. Andy came. Andy showed up. Andy showed up and said, hey, how y' all doing?
Monet X Change
His little friend, anyway.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I just don't think it was a good movie. Like, I just remember being like, ugh, this is like, I don't like it.
Monet X Change
Well, can you say why I didn't like it?
Bob the Drag Queen
I didn't think that it was compelling. I wasn't interested in the story. I didn't care if they fell in love. I didn't care about their work situation. I didn't care. I didn't like. None of the characters were written in a way that made me want to be interested in them. I thought they were shoehorning songs in a way that didn't make sense. Why was he doing his this Is America song in the middle of the Caribbean.
Monet X Change
Why?
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, I don't understand how he's doing. This is America and they're in the middle of the Caribbean. And it literally just didn't make sense to me. I'm sure they found a way for these Caribbeans to be singing this Is America and haven't make sense to them. But I was like, this just feels like a. Like a. An advertisement for this music. And, like, these songs just don't fit in here. Like, it was a jukebox musical, but not in a good way for me.
Monet X Change
Oh, I thought it was. It was good. I liked it.
Bob the Drag Queen
You like enough to watch it again?
Monet X Change
I don't remember. I could watch it again. Maybe I could watch it the patrons.
Bob the Drag Queen
You like? You like? I loved it.
Monet X Change
I did not.
Bob the Drag Queen
You did say you loved it.
Monet X Change
You did.
Bob the Drag Queen
You said you loved it Several times. Several times.
Monet X Change
I love it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I love it. So you did love it. So wait, so did you not say it or did you love. Which one is it?
Monet X Change
Love. Guava, but can't tell me anything about it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Haven't watched it again.
Monet X Change
I. I probably will watch it again. You know, I watch it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I feel like movies you love, you can tell me about them, right?
Monet X Change
Because I've seen it multiple times.
Bob the Drag Queen
But you haven't even watched. And it's on Amazon. You got it. Go watch this on Amazon.
Jacob
I don't have.
Monet X Change
I don't have prime anymore.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're lying. I don't. Now this bitch will lie. She will just sit on this podcast and lie. She was sent on this podcast to y' all faces, and she will lie to you. That's y' all queen. That's y' all queen. That's y'. All. Thumbs down. Exactly. Thumbs down. That's y' all queen. You have anything to say for yourself before you go?
Monet X Change
I don't have rhyme. Goodbye. I really want it. I really want it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Goodbye.
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This episode, titled "The One About Freaky Friday," brings the signature Sibling Rivalry blend of playful bickering, queer pop culture commentary, and brutally honest hot takes. Bob and Monét riff on everything from the logistics of body-swapping (as famously depicted in "Freaky Friday") to the economics of New York drag, the etiquette of celebrity boundaries, and what happens when you accost Lindsay Lohan for a selfie. Expect infectious laughs, strong opinions, and a wild ride that veers from philosophical to petty in seconds.
This episode brings classic Sibling Rivalry: sharp, hilarious, honest, sometimes irreverent, and always thought-provoking. Whether you came for witty drag politics or philosophical rants about souls, Bob and Monét serve it with chemistry that only comes from years of friendship—real or performative.