The One About Going No Contact With Parents and Whales

Summary

Sibling Rivalry Podcast Episode Summary

Episode: The One About Going No Contact With Parents and Whales
Hosts: Bob The Drag Queen & Monét X Change
Date: August 14, 2023

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Episode Overview

In this characteristically irreverent and heartfelt episode, Bob and Monét dive into the deeply personal topic of “going no contact” with parents, sharing candid stories from their own lives about family estrangement, healing, and boundaries. True to form, they juxtapose heavy subject matter with comedic tangents—including a memorable discussion about whales, dirty hookups, and droning—showcasing their engaging chemistry, quick wit, and vulnerability. The episode also highlights the nuances of familial relationships and generational attitudes, particularly among Gen Z.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Belongings, Trust, & New York Upbringing

• Chain Story (00:52-05:16): Monét shares a story of losing their chain, immediately suspecting theft due to growing up in New York. Bob teases Monét about jumping to accusations, and the conversation pivots to how city upbringing shapes issues of trust.
• Quote:
  • Monét: “If I put it down, somebody who, like, take it and put it away so it doesn't. Or stolen or something.” (01:53)
  • Bob: “People who go into, like, accusations immediately... it’s because deep down its something you either would do or have done.” (03:17)

2. The Realities of Losing Things in NYC

• Lost & Found in NYC (05:03-06:05): Both hosts bond over never recovering anything lost on public transportation, poking fun at the futility of the lost-and-found and their lifelong city instincts.

3. Material Things & Self-Reward

• Chain’s Sentimental Value (08:54-09:17): Monét bought the chain as a reward for a major career milestone, underlining how drag queens often celebrate achievements with special purchases.

4. New York Carts, Juicing, and Grocery Shopping

• NYC Cart Culture (10:18-12:25): Lengthy riff on Manhattan’s unique grocery and laundry cart rituals, pointing to small city rituals as rites of passage.
• Juicing = Constant Shopping (12:06-12:36): Juicing enthusiasts can relate to Monét’s constant trips for produce.

5. The PPP Loan Rant (12:44-13:16)

• Monét rails against celebrity PPP loan abuse versus student loan forgiveness.
  • Monét: “All these goddamn fucking right wing celebrities, fucking politicians who got PPP loans … but yet Americans trying to get $10,000 of their college tuition forgiven is too much.” (12:52-13:14)

6. Growing Up with Absent or Strained Parental Relationships

• Transition to No Contact (22:13–24:12)
  • Monét describes going fully no contact with a bad hookup as a segue into the main theme of no contact with family.
  • Bob admits to remaining friends with past hookups, while Monét quickly blocks bad experiences.
  • Quote:
    • Bob: “This fucking throat has made you friends, has made lifelong connections for you.” (23:41)
    • Monét: “Today, we’re talking about going no contact with friends or family… Gen Z has definitely, like, embraced the term.” (23:45–24:12)

7. Gen Z and the “No Contact” Trend

• Generational Differences (24:12–24:25):
  • Bob pokes fun at how Gen Z will go “no contact” with parents over small inconveniences, contrasting it with earlier generations’ perseverance.

8. Bob & Monét’s Family Stories

Monét’s Experience (26:11–27:36, 39:05–54:50)

• Estrangement from Birth Mother:
  • Monét is fully no-contact with her birth mother (June), due to a long history of neglect and failed attempts at reconnection.
  • Raised by an aunt and uncle in St. Lucia who became “adopted” parents.
  • Describes a dramatic family barbecue reunion, which led to another brief, unsuccessful attempt at reconciliation.
  • Quote:
    • Monét: “I’m just so grateful for the love...There’s something to me that was so healing, that someone that was not their kid chose to raise me and love me as their own.” (52:01)

Bob’s Experience (37:58–50:29)

• Low-Contact with Father:
  • Bob’s father is sometimes present, often absent due to addiction and personal struggles.
  • Describes the pain of a transactional relationship (e.g., his dad selling his car) and how it spurred distance.
  • Highlights support from the women in his family as central to his upbringing.
  • Quote:
    • Bob: “After my dad sold my car, that’s when I decided I didn’t want to speak to him anymore.” (43:59)
    • Bob: “The women in my family are truly keeping this bitch afloat. I come from a matriarchal family.” (44:38)

9. Mandates and Myths Around Parental Loyalty

• Challenging ‘Honor Thy Parents’ (57:54–58:17):
  • Monét challenges religious/cultural imperatives to honor parents no matter what, emphasizing personal well-being over obligatory loyalty.
  • Monét: “It comes from the fucking Bible—you have to honor your parents. I’m like, no. No, I do not. They chose to bring me into this world. I don’t have to honor anyone.” (57:54–58:17)

10. Therapy & Public Healing

• Do You Need Therapy to Heal Family Wounds? (59:40–61:06)
  • Bob wonders about recording therapy sessions with his father as a podcast, pondering how/whether therapy might bring closure.
  • Monét is unsure therapy would help, feeling she’s largely healed on her own.

11. Discussion of Whales, Dolphins, & Animal Intellect

• Whales & Language (31:01–36:24):
  • Fun diversion about animal intelligence, particularly orcas and dolphins’ unique languages.
  • Polar bears as one of the few animals who will actively hunt humans.
  • Bob and Monét riff about animal behaviors, senses of smell, and animal interactions with humans.
  • Quote:
    • Bob: “Whales have different languages… like different sets of languages amongst each other.” (33:18)
    • Monét: “Orcas and dolphins… anything with a fin.” (31:09–31:19)

12. Memorable & Off-Color Tangents

• Dirty Hookup Story in Belfast (16:24–18:48):
  • Bob recounts a comically traumatic hookup that leads to a discussion of boundaries and self-respect.
  • Quote:
    • Bob: “So it smelled so bad in the room that I had to…just sat by the window and…tried to breathe the air.” (17:39)
• Droning as a Hobby (23:00–23:13):
  • Bob and Monét riff about flying drones as a new, unexpected pastime.

13. Culture, Media, and Healing In the Public Eye

• Reference to Jeanette McCurdy’s “I’m Glad My Mom Died” (55:43–57:54), sparking a conversation about healing and storytelling in the internet age.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment / Story | |-------------|--------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:52-05:16 | The lost chain and New York trust issues | | 08:54-09:17 | Sentimental jewelry—rewarding oneself | | 12:44-13:16 | Rant on PPP loans vs. student loan forgiveness | | 16:24-18:48 | Bob’s traumatic/dirty hookup story in Belfast | | 22:13-24:12 | Transition from blocking hookups to family no-contact | | 26:11–27:36 | Monét’s family estrangement backstory | | 31:01–36:24 | Animal language: whales, dolphins, olfactory senses | | 37:58–50:29| Bob’s father, estrangement, and matriarchal family | | 52:01 | Monét on being raised by those who chose her | | 57:54–58:17 | Challenging “honor thy parents” | | 59:40–61:06 | Therapy and healing from family trauma |

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Monét (on being chosen):
  “There’s something to me that was so healing, that someone that was not their kid chose to raise me and love me as their own.” (52:01)
• Bob (on his father):
  “After my dad sold my car, that’s when I decided I didn’t want to speak to him anymore.” (43:59)
• Bob (on animal intelligence):
  “Whales have different languages… They start families… People don’t realize how intelligent those fucking animals are.” (33:18)
• Monét (on whether to honor parents):
  “It comes from the fucking Bible—you have to honor your parents. I’m like, no. No, I do not. They chose to bring me into this world. I don’t have to honor anyone.” (57:54–58:17)
• Bob (on cutting off a parent):
  “Well, my dad never didn’t want me. I was never under the illusion my dad doesn’t want me. My dad really wants to be in my life, but I’m just like, I’m good. I’m good on that.” (65:35)

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Tone & Language

The episode is brash, open-hearted, and laugh-out-loud funny. Bob and Monét maintain a conversational, unfiltered style, using humor and personal anecdotes—often explicit or uncensored—to explore difficult family subjects, while interweaving playful pop culture tangents and audience engagement.

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Closing

The duo closes by expressing curiosity about listeners’ stories of going no contact and encouraging feedback on social media, noting the power and self-determination in setting boundaries for better mental health.

• Monét: “If you have gone no contact with your parent or someone really close to you, I’m really interested in those stories… It’s making a lot of people live better lives.” (64:49)

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For those confronting family estrangement, this is a simultaneously comforting, hilarious, and instructive listen—equal parts therapy and kiki.

Transcript

[A]

My name is bob the drag queen.

[B]

And I'm monet x james.

[A]

And this is sibling rivalry. On this week's episode, someone finally breaks into my house for a change.

[B]

We talk about going, no contact with your parents and Wales.

[A]

And we found out what made Monet say this.

[B]

My family was having this big barbecue in Brooklyn and then it was like, oh, my God, June's coming. Like, June has agreed to come. And we find out what made Bob say this.

[A]

Bitch, this fucking throat has made you friends, has made lifelong connections for you, y'.

[B]

All. Listen, this is Sibling Rivalry podcast. We only have 8,000 reviews on. On Apple. And we should have.

[A]

We have. That's shady.

[B]

We have hundreds of thousands of. Hundreds of thousands of listeners, bitch. We have almost 20,000 on our Patreon, so. So there should be at least 20k reviews on Apple podcasts.

[A]

So if you all could please go and give us a review over on Spotify, over on Apple Podcasts, over on Everywhere, wherever you listen to your podcast. Please, please, please. It helps a lot. So give us that review. We need those sweet, sweet delicioso reviews.

[B]

And also, even if you don't listen on Apple podcast, you get it as an Apple user, when you have, if you have an iPhone, just download the app and go leave a five star review and a comment. That's all you gotta do. It's going to take you literally, literally one minute to do all of that. Thank you. You know, the other day. So if anyone has seen me in person using it or seen. Watch this podcast. I always have this gold chain on. And the other day at my dressing room here at the, at the, at the, at the theater, I, like took it off to do my makeup. And when I came back the next day, it wasn't there. And I was like, patti, where's my. Where's my chain? And he's like. And he was sleeping.

[A]

Not immediately to Patty. Not immediately to Patty.

[B]

He always does it. He always. If I put it down, somebody who, like, take it and put it away so it doesn't. Or stolen or something. We wasn't answering his text. Cause he was still sleeping. I was like, so I'm one of these people. I'm like, oh, someone stole my chain. Like, I immediately thought someone stole my chain. So now I'm asking everyone in the building, I was like, have you seen my chain? I was like, I had a chain.

[A]

Why is that where people go straight? Like, why do people go straight to that instead of I lost my chain. Why are you one of the ones who's like, no one is leaving this room.

[B]

Yep. Until I get my shit.

[A]

I hate those people. I hate those people.

[B]

Sorry. This has a lot of sentimental value to me.

[A]

Okay. I can't wait to hear the rest of the story. Continue.

[B]

So I asked the stage manager. I was like, hey, I had a gold chain. I think I left my dressroom. And we don't lock the dressing rooms. I just want to know if maybe someone found it or if it was found or anything. And she's like, no. And then I asked someone else. And then. So I'm in the gym. I was like, you know, let me just go to the gym and wait for Patty to wake up. And I woke up, I was like, hey, I put my gold chain on the room, and I don't know where he is. Like, I have it. It's in my pocket. I was like, thank you.

[A]

Maybe he put it in his pocket because it's in a dress room that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Doesn't get locked.

[B]

That's what. That's what I said earlier. When he talk about. He always puts it away just so it doesn't get stolen. That's what I said.

[A]

So why did you go. So if. If. If you know, Patty always puts it away, why did you go straight to someone's.

[B]

Because he wasn't answering. So in my mind, he took my chain. He was on his way to the pawn shop to go melt my down.

[A]

I'm gonna vomit. People who go into, like, accusations immediately, and I told you I have this theory. I think it's because deep down is something that they either would do or have done. Like, if you think. Like, if you think everyone's lying, it's because. Low key, you're a liar. If you think everyone's lying, it's because lying is really easy for you. And you're like, I could see how people would lie because I lie all the time.

[B]

No. What is it?

[A]

And if you think everyone stole your chain, it's deep down you have stolen or would still. Or maybe. Maybe you have past trauma with people still.

[B]

But we've debunked this. The one you said the last time when I brought up. I brought up. I brought the fact. I was like, oh, so when you say this about people, that mean that you do it too. And you're like, no. So wait, what was the thing? I forget what it was, but I'm sure someone's gonna go, well, then.

[A]

Then try to bring it up again.

[B]

I'm like, you.

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You. You use your little brain to come up with the same concoction you came

[B]

up with last time, it's true for everyone except you. What is? You don't count.

[A]

But what are you talking about, though?

[B]

I don't remember what it was, whatever we were talking about. I was like, oh, yeah.

[A]

Ginkgo biloba, nigga. Ginkgo biloba.

[B]

But I also think it's because I'm from New York, right? Because here's the thing. Like, and again, I've been riding the fucking subway since the fifth grade by myself. And I've lost a lot of things on the subway. Whether it be the textbook, whether it be a book bag, whether it be whatever it is. And when you lose something.

[A]

You lost them. Yeah. You lost them. Yeah, I said.

[B]

I. I said me, bitch. But my thing is, like, when you lose something on the train, even though there is a lost and found system.

[A]

Oh, no, never again. You will never see that ever again.

[B]

It is gone.

[A]

It goes straight to the incinerator, the lost and found. It stays there for one minute, and then at the time that at 59 seconds, they toss it into the incinerator,

[B]

if it even makes it there, some fucking asshole person probably gonna kick it off the thing or fucking shit on. Who knows what they're gonna do with it. Like, if it even makes it to the lost and found. So when I lose something, my brain is like, it's gone. Like, I'm not finding it. It's gone.

[A]

No, that's. That. That's. No, that is valid. You. I've. I've never recovered anything from the train. I've also never recovered anything from an airplane. If you leave it on the plane, it's a. It's a baby.

[B]

Bands on the. On. On the plane. Okay, Bob left some bands on the plane, and in.

[A]

In minutes he called and he minutes

[B]

to try to get it, and it was gone.

[A]

Oh, yeah, I was. I was off the plane. I was like. I mean, like, at the edge. Like, you know, right before you go onto the shoot. What's not the shoot? The jet bridge. Yeah, I mean, I was right off the jet bridge, like, oh, I got. Actually, I think I was still on the jet bridge. I think I made it right past the door on the plane. I said, oh, hold on. And they were like, not letting me come back on the plane.

[B]

They will.

[A]

You cannot get back on the plane.

[B]

Why?

[A]

I don't know if they think that I went and got some artillery in that one second. Once I crossed that threshold, I was like, I'm fucking Rambo or what. I'm like, y'. All y' all is. Y' all is paranoid.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, call me paranoid. But then I went back, and some of y' all have heard the story already, but when I transitioned to my new laptop, which I was. I'm one of the people who has two computers for, like, three months because I'm still trying. Because I'm still trying to use programs from the old computer. And also, like, at the time, I was using GarageBand, but the new computer had this version of GarageBand that I. I'm like, I need calculus.

[B]

I can't use this.

[A]

So. And you can't de. Upgrade. You can't downgrade.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I'm.

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You country.

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I. I made it to downgrade. I made it there. I made it there. The upgrade. Oh, my God. So I was using. I was. And I was. I think I was still. I think I was still managing our. Creating our. Editing our podcast at the time. Maybe. But it might. But anyway, so I was editing on this computer and then airdropping it to that computer, and it was all in this Versace backpack that Kimchi Kim Chi, and Asia o' Hara convinced me to buy. And I have not purchased an expensive backpack since then. I. I have a. I have a Coach backpack that I have, and every backpack I've had since then, Coach gave me. So they are expensive, but I'm. But I'm not. But I didn't. I didn't buy it.

[B]

They're not.

[A]

They're not as expensive as the coach backpack. The Versace backpack was too much money. I don't think I'd ever spend that much money on it. No, you're about to buy a little

[B]

backpack that cost $15,000.

[A]

What you mean, why am I right about little beverages? The Birkin you trying to buy, it's not a backpack. It's a bag. And that's an investment. Obviously. The Versace backpack was not an investment. Clearly. I don't even think that the Versace backpack would have, like, accumulated wealth over time, whereas Birkins did.

[B]

It do. Versace is one of the brands. It would for sure do they.

[A]

Okay, well, whoever got my patent leather fucking Versace backpack, you're welcome. And also, I can't do. I can't with, like, the only jewelry I can really wear, even in drag, is earrings. I don't like rings. And you rarely will. Rarely. I will wear a necklace to, like, events. People who wake up every day and put on a necklace is like, I can't.

[B]

I just have it on. I don't ever take it off unless I'm in drag. I don't take this off. So it's like always on.

[A]

Who gave it to you?

[B]

I want it for myself. When I wanted myself. As soon as I got done recording Season 10, I was like, I just did this really. This life accomplishment, and I just did this really great thing. I'm gonna treat myself to this really nice change.

[A]

You think 10 was a great thing? I would have waited till All Stars. I would have did.

[B]

But that's just me, though.

[A]

I would have waited until I did.

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Look at these. Look at these. Until I did All Stars.

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Because that was. That was a. That was like. That was unaccountable.

[B]

Look at these.

[A]

When did you get your. Did you get your nails done in. In Edinburgh?

[B]

No, I got it done at the place that I put you on to.

[A]

What place? I don't get my nose done.

[B]

The place. Well, because. But they do like, they do press ons, too. The one down the street from your house.

[A]

Oh. Oh, I've ordered that. Also, I was driving the other day and the Chinese restaurant is closed. The one they used to love.

[B]

Bitch.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

They reopened a new location by the Beverly Center.

[A]

That's too fast. It's Beverly Hills.

[B]

No, I mean, it's literally just down La Brea on, like, one block over Beverly Hills.

[A]

I'm not going to no motherfucking Beverly Hills to get no motherfucking truck.

[B]

I do. Let me say something. They. I was. I used to go to. I was used to.

[A]

I mean, you used to leave your. Monet was driving. I lived 20 minutes from Monet's, and sometimes 25 minutes, Monet is traveling. You know how many and how many Chinese restaurants Monet pass.

[B]

That was upset to me.

[A]

That is crazy.

[B]

They're really good food, though.

[A]

It used to be, like, whenever I would see people on the train with Whole Foods, Grocery, I'm like, you don't get on the train for groceries like in New York City. You don't. That is the only. Only Whole Foods. Whole Foods is the only. And Trader Joe's.

[B]

Trader Joe's.

[A]

Actually, it was. It was never whole. It was always Trader Joe's. Never Hope. It was always Trader Joe's. You only see people on the train with. With Trader Joe's. Imagine looking over and seeing a Grassidis bag on the train or an Aldi bag on the train or PATH Park. Imagine seeing somebody on the train with C Town bag. Ain't nothing at Seatown worth taking the train for. No, but people go to train also New Yorkers. If you don't like something I miss about New York City is like that. Those carts, the carts. You miss the carts a little bit because getting the cart was such a. It felt like a rite of passage as like a New Yorker. When you move, when you're a transplant, you feel like such a New Yorker when you get a cart. And the cart that I had, I had that cart. When I tell you from the time I bought it to the time I left. And my cart was. It was broken when I got it. It didn't have wheels in the front, it only had wheels in the back. I found my cart on the street. I didn't even buy it. I found my cart on the street.

[B]

It cost like $10.

[A]

But this cart, okay, I had just accomplished this big thing in my life. I had just hit this milestone and I wanted it. So I was. I wanted to treat myself. And I was attached to this cart that I had. And I don't know if you remember it, but I used to have it. I remember I had it.

[B]

You.

[A]

You. They collapsed, but mine would. It would. They wouldn't really stay collapsed. So I had to tie. I had a string to tie mine so I could keep it collapsing. You hang it on the wall and then you take it down and you untie it.

[B]

I use it though, only when you. Only when you do laundry. I see you use it. Otherwise I didn't.

[A]

Yeah, I don't grocery shop, you know, I don't. I mean, I don't really grocery shop very often. When I was juicing, I would. I would use it when I was juicing.

[B]

Got it. Yeah.

[A]

When you're juicing, you girl. That was a wild time in my life. You have to be grocery shopping every single day, every store, every like three days. Okay, I'm being a little dramatic.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But very often, very frequently at the store, buying. Because produce goes badly, goes bad so quickly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you are just constantly at the store buying fruits and vegetables. It is incredible.

[B]

All the time.

[A]

And anyone knows me, knows I'm already. I'm a pissy queen. I be in these streets, pping. Ppping.

[B]

Ppp. Ppp.

[A]

What's that? What's ppp? Is that like a loan?

[B]

Yeah, that's the personal protection. Whatever that plan.

[A]

Yeah, that's me. Ppp.

[B]

Shit. With all these fucking. All these goddamn fucking right wing celebrities, fucking politicians who got PPP loans to excuse them and lied about their businesses getting millions of dollars, but yet Americans trying to get $10,000 of their college tuition forgiven is too much. But Marjorie Taylor green. But my $1.8 million. I needed that for my business. Your $10,000, you. You'll be fine.

[A]

What business does Marjorie Taylor Greene run?

[B]

Who fucking. They made them up. A lot of them. A lot of them. When they saw. They just made them up to get it because they knew they could. They're not even legitimate businesses. Half of them.

[A]

Marjorie Taylor Greene. What an interesting. Georgia. Georgia. I'm from Georgia. But like what's good? Why Mar. But also, but also realize that Marina,

[B]

she's from like, like some. Some stupid district that like some small, small city. Not from. Not from Atlanta or.

[A]

That's not how she's.

[B]

She's. She's a congresswoman. She's a congresswoman of a Columbus.

[A]

I know, but you said like the south. Like that's, that's not really how Georgia.

[B]

South of Columbus.

[A]

That's not really how Georgia works. I mean southern Georgia is. Is a thing, a different world. But also, so is northern Georgia and so is western Georgia. I mean, and Atlanta is kind of in the north, like, but it's like North Central a little bit. It's not like quite, quite the north. But also once you get closer to the south, you get. You remember you're getting. It starts quickly turning into Florida. Florida and Georgia started around. Around Valdosta. Georgia and Florida start kind of becoming one in a very creepy way.

[B]

That's, that's. That's what that. Remember that MTV show like Flora Bama?

[A]

No.

[B]

They had this show, it's kind of like Jersey Shore. They're trying to make like the New Jersey shore, like Florida Bama. And it was like exploring like that district where like kind of Florida, Alabama and Georgia kind of meet like those like swamp like crazy scary people.

[A]

One time I was in some Belfast.

[B]

Belfast, you know that the first STD I got, I sold it some. Sorry. The first STD I got as a rue girl in Belfast.

[A]

I was in Belfast and I had one of the.

[B]

What.

[A]

It was one of the most uncomfortable hookups I've ever had.

[B]

Why life? Why?

[A]

Like, it makes me like sick to my stomach. Like I reached out. I'll tell you after this break. I'll see you after this break.

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So you were, like reacting to this story just thinking about it in real

[A]

time because it was horrible because this guy came over, right? And he. He was very well endowed, which is not really my thing. I mean, it can be sometimes, but it's not really like my, like, cup of tea always. So this. Anyway, and then I just remember, like, his, like, ass was just so dirty.

[B]

Like, dirty like how? Like, like on the outside, like from

[A]

the crack, like when he sat on the sheets, when he moved, there was something. And I had this.

[B]

Was this after you had been inside? So the insides were outside, you know what I'm saying? Or just nothing had entered in. He was just dirty.

[A]

This is like nothing. It was just like a little bit. I was like. I was like, oh, something just does not smell good. And I was like, oh, so then. But before that, I had. I had already arranged for someone else to come over. So this other guy was on the way over, then he came in and then by the time he got.

[B]

Wait, it was a threesome?

[A]

Yeah. I'm being transported back to this horrible time. Well, you better.

[B]

You're getting wet and wild in Belfast, not a threesome.

[A]

The other guy showed up and he just didn't care. Like this guy did. He was like, give me them dirty, dirty cheeks. So it smelled so bad in the room that I had to, like. And I'm not anyone who's a scat queen. Live your life. I had to, like, raise the windows, so I just could not engage. So I just sat by the window and, like, acted like I was watching. And when I tell you I was just on my phone trying to breathe the air from the window fully. I put all my clothes back on because also it's now cold. It's cold. It is like the cold air, the cold Irish air is wafting through. Irish breeze, baby. That's the thing. When I say Irish breeze is wafting in. And I'm just on my phone, prisoner in my own hotel room, waiting for. And they Kept being like, you wanna join? And I'm like, nah, this is so great. Watching is so good. This is good stuff. Y' all just keep. You keep doing that, and I'll do this over here.

[B]

Well, you know, there's a segment of the gay sex, butt sex, having people who are like, you know, I know what I'm signing up for. Like, guys shit from there. Like, I'm not. Like, I've spoken to these people, and

[A]

a lot of people are like, I'm of that yoke. If it's a little something here and there, we can, like, tidy up and keep moving. This was a fucking mutt. Like, Monet, if your ass is so dirty that just from sitting on the sheets, there's literal shit. Like, he literally just sat down and then, like, moved. And I was like, ah. Like, was it hard?

[B]

Was it wet? Was it, like, new?

[A]

Monet, stop.

[B]

He had to have been into that. He had to have been a scat queen. There's no way. You don't know that.

[A]

I had to separate myself from that and never speak to him again. Speaking of which, have you ever separated yourself from. Anyway, to that guy? Wherever you are, I hope you're having more fun. That must have been a wild night for them, too. Do you ever think that people, like, after hooking up with you are like, okay, if you hooked up with a celebrity, even if they were D list, wouldn't you immediately call me and be like, girl, I literally just.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I literally just say, even if it was like, like someone like. Like, it doesn't have to be like, you know, fucking Michael B. Jordan. Yeah. It could be grudges. I just fucked one of the. I just fucked one of Beyonce's backup dancers.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Which, by the way, Beyonce's backup dancers are so hot.

[B]

Both of.

[A]

Well, yeah.

[B]

I mean, they're like the two main ones that are always behind her. The one with, like, the little short curly hair and then the bald one with the blonde hair. Those are the ones I see. You see a lot. They're both very hot. Also, Jonta, I didn't realize. Jontae is one of her dancers.

[A]

Girl, Jonta is fierce. Jonta, who's a New York City icon, by the way. Nightlife icon. And Jontay is showing these little young girls how to fucking dance because she's been around. Yeah. Is, I think, like, in her 40s and was like, let me show you hoes how to keep up. Can you keep up? It is everything. I. Bitch, I. I can only. I mean, I keep saying that, like, I won't be 40 in three years.

[B]

Oh, my God. You are going to be 40 soon.

[A]

I think I told you already. I was. I was. I think I already. I think I literally just told this about. About the Paul Rubin story. When Paul Rubens passed away, I was in the car with my friend, and he was like, paul Reubens passed away? And I was like. He said, paul Rubens passed away at 70. And I was like. And I was like, well, he lived a long life, bitch. That person was 63.

[B]

You didn't tell me the story.

[A]

I had to be like, oh, I'm about to be like, well, he didn't die young. But I realized that the person I was saying it to was 60. My friend was 63 years old. So I was like, okay, but, you know, watch your mouth. You remember my friend Tony? Tony Macaroni?

[B]

Got it.

[A]

Yeah, got it.

[B]

Okay. So would you say that you went no contact with this hookup in Belfast?

[A]

Yeah, full on. I've never spoken to this person again. I block them. How often do you block someone when they leave the room?

[B]

Oh, if it was immediately, like, it's rare.

[A]

Wait, whoa.

[B]

What?

[A]

You block every bad hookup?

[B]

Yes. As soon as you leave, we're not gonna meet again, and I don't want to. You don't. Don't take up space on my grid. As soon as. As soon as the door is closed and take my phone out. Block. Why waste the time? We're not gonna be friends.

[A]

I'm friends with. I. But I ended up becoming friends with a lot of people.

[B]

You do? That's not my experience. At. When I tell you at all. At all.

[A]

I have this one. Well, this orange hookup is a great hookup, though. We always have fun. But, like, he just, like, taught me how to, like, drone. We. We go droning. I just got a drone. I'm. I'm one of those now.

[B]

Oh, my God. What are you.

[A]

Oh, no, no, no. Monet, when you come with me droning, you're going to be upset. You're gonna buy one. What the. Is droning? Telling you drone. It's like a flying camera. Yeah, I know, but, like, a drone isn't a flying. A drone attaches camera to a drone.

[B]

Yeah, but what is droning like? Droning. Just flying it.

[A]

Yeah. You go to the park and you fly your drones. So we both have drones, and he teaches me how to drone. And also, he's really fun and really cool, and I like him. So I become. Bitch. You've become friends with some of my

[B]

hookups that's because you bring them around all the time.

[A]

Because that's how I make friends with this meat honey, and this wet ass mouth honey.

[B]

Oh, my God, bitch.

[A]

This fucking throat has made you friends. Has made lifelong connections for you.

[B]

The Thrusty. The Thrusty. Well, today, y', all, we're talking about no contact with friends or family. And it's an interesting concept. I think that this is something that Gen Zers have like. I mean, people have been going no contact with family for a long time, but the term going no contact with parents is something that the Gen Z has definitely like, oh, they're into it.

[A]

Some of the Gen Zs are stop talking to their parents. If they don't pick them up for school that day, girl, they will. Girl, these Gen Zs will stop talking to their parents over the most minor of inconvenience, you know?

[B]

Wait, really? Before we go into that, I was watching this video. There's one of these, like, videos that pop up because I'm.

[A]

Classic Bob Monet. We will never get to the topic.

[B]

Yeah, we will. We will.

[A]

Classic Bob Monet.

[B]

But it was a video about how Kim K. Keeps north west away from Blue Ivy. The person who made this video is clearly a Kim K. Stan. And hating on Beyonce for some reason and saying that. And basically the gist of the video was that Beyonce's turning Northwest into, like, this. Like, she's like, she's forcing her career on her, whereas Kim is. Kim. Kim is trying to give Northwest a normal life. I was like, the fact that.

[A]

Do you mean Kim. Kim Kimball, the hairstylist? Kim Kardashian or Kim Kim or Kim? Kim Kiyosaki, the entrepreneur?

[B]

Kim Kardashian or Kim Kitzer?

[A]

Oh, Kardashian. Oh, Kardashian. Okay, that. That actually makes more sense.

[B]

I was like. And also, I just didn't realize how many accolades Blue Ivy has had already. She's the one. She's won a Grammy. She won, like, a songwriting thing for Bronson Girls for this American something award. Like, Blue Ivy has, like, accolades already. That's wild. She's 11.

[A]

That's a good drag name. Accolade. Apparently, she. She was at an art auction and she outbid Tyler Perry for a painting.

[B]

Yes. For 19. For $19,000.

[A]

Also, I saw Blue Ivy on tour. Blue Ivy is like 5 foot 10.

[B]

She's tall. She's gonna be tall.

[A]

I mean, I'm 5 10, but Blue Ivy is like 11 years old, and she's like the same height as Beyonce. I was like, this is I was like, she.

[B]

She.

[A]

She is very tall. I was gagged.

[B]

She is. She's gonna be the Malia Obama of the Carters.

[A]

Honey, I'm obsessed with how tall Malia Obama is. I'm obsessed. Malia Obama is 6 foot 1. Malia Obama could fucking dunk on you.

[B]

Malia. Mama dunking me.

[A]

That is Malia. She is Malia. Thee stallion. Malia the stallion.

[B]

Honey, I'm going no contact. I mean, so obviously if you're ever listening to the podcast, but for new ones I have, I'm no contact with. With my mom, with my birth mother, and I've been no contact with her for a while. But what's interesting is that she's in contact with the rest of my family. Like, she talks to my grandmother, she talks to my aunts, but she. But me and her just no contact with each other because I think that she has like a lot of work to do and she feels like her shit is not together. So I have no desire to engage in her and so.

[A]

Does she know you have a podcast?

[B]

I don't know. She used to follow me on Instagram, but I don't. But I did not follow her back. And I don't remember what her Instagram

[A]

was, but one too many nudes and she unfollowed you.

[B]

Too many.

[A]

Too many ass shots of her baby. And she was like, it's getting weird.

[B]

Long story short, she had me. She was not a good mother. So then they shipped me to St. Lucia to live with my aunt and uncle who became my daughter parents. And then a couple not shipped. And then a couple of times.

[A]

Don't, bitch. You're not a UPS package.

[B]

I was like, this bitch.

[A]

You make it sound like they fucking poked holes in a box.

[B]

Then a couple of times they tried to. She tried to like engage again, like, and come down to Visit me in St. Lucia and like, do stuff with me, but she was still not in a good space. And then my parents and St. Lucia got divorced.

[A]

You know how old she is?

[B]

She is 20 years. She had me at 20, so that means she's 20 years older than me. So that means she's 53. She's 53.

[A]

Oh my gosh, she's so young. Oh my God.

[B]

She was born June 26th. She's. She's a cancer.

[A]

Like, you don't. Don't do me. Don't do that. Don't do that. Cause you know you have the same sign as Ted Bundy. So what does it say about you? I don't know if that's true, but I felt comfortable just asserting it on the Internet.

[B]

Also, Chelsea Handler and Cher.

[A]

Honey, I don't think you have. I don't even know What. What is February 19th? What is that?

[B]

Pisces.

[A]

Oh, aren't they, like, the least problematic ones?

[B]

Yeah, Pisces are, like, the most. Everyone gets, like, I don't believe in astrology, but everyone gets along with Pisces. Same.

[A]

And. And from what I understand, like, cancers are the ones that. Did you hear a break in? That's you. I thought. I thought the air conditioner turned on. I thought, hold on. Because someone's in the house.

[B]

You never know.

[A]

Shit is so funny. Monet has 18 animals. A cat, a dog, a snail, and a chinchilla living in the house. Bitch.

[B]

When I move into the new place, imagine that I'm gonna be even more scared.

[A]

Get a. No, nevermind. Don't. I'm about to say get like, the kind of dog that would scare people away, but I wouldn't come over either, so don't do that. If people who have. Like. If your dog is really big and isn't extremely friendly, when I tell you I'm not coming to your house, I need you to know that I'm not kidding around. If your dog was like, it's like. It's like, no, no, no, I'm not coming over. I'm not risking at all. I'm not going to Zach. No. Tower. His sister has a Saint Bernard. Like, a massive Saint Bernard.

[B]

Big.

[A]

And. And. And. And. And the dog doesn't have a perfect track record. Okay? Let's just say it doesn't. Let's just say doesn't have a perfect track. It, like, barked at Zach one time, like, aggressively. And I was like, I'm not coming over to fucking Cujo's house to hang out. And then this other guy came to the house one time and he had. He had a pit bull. And. And he was just like, yeah, Fluffy was, like, snapped at someone at brunch today, so we're banned from a restaurant. And I was like, you think I would ever. You can't bring that. When I was like, don't bring that little murder hound over here.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

It's not.

[B]

I mean, again, I'm with you, Adam, but I just don't believe the dog should. I'm not into dogs, so I'm with that, too. But the thing is that when people have hyperactive dogs and you come over and they're jumping on you, they're like, stop. Get down. That's so Cute.

[A]

I love that. No, that. I like that. No, they're like, stop.

[B]

Get down. I'm like, this dog is not on my clothes. Like, it's like.

[A]

I'd be like, I'm the one that's like. It's okay.

[B]

No, you're not, Bob.

[A]

First of all, I'd be like, y'.

[B]

All. This would be Bob. Bob will have his little. Because he always has a purse. And Bob is holding his purse like this.

[A]

And Bob. That's the cat. No, it's dogs. Anyway, bitch, your dog be in the corner, up under the cabinet. Strip. Yeah. Yeah. Courage. The cowardly potato. Yeah. If a movie was written from potatoes perspective, do you think you'd be. You're a villain, bitch. If the movie was written from potatoes, you are the evil stepmom umbrella. Yeah. You're not a good guy. Potato is innocent. And you're a monster.

[B]

You know, they say that we really close to having AI that can interpret what animals are saying.

[A]

I believe it.

[B]

That would be insane. But.

[A]

But animals aren't saying anything. You mean. You mean emoting? Because animals. The barks don't actually.

[B]

Right, right. What? They're moaning. Like what their emotions are. Like what their feelings are. Yes.

[A]

Except apparently orcas and dolphins do have language.

[B]

They do they.

[A]

Orcas and dolphins. They have language. Orcas. Whales. Dolphins. Pretty much any. Anything with a fin.

[B]

Whales. People don't realize whales are so small.

[A]

Not anything. Sorry. But the dorsal. The animals with dorsal fins are incredibly smart. I don't know what it is about their dorsal fin, but they're incredibly smart.

[B]

Whales are so like people are. Whales have. They have different languages. Like, different. Like. Like different sets of languages amongst each other and. Sorry, I. Jacob, I know the difference.

[A]

Right. Let's talk about the language on the break.

[B]

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[B]

So whales have like, they have different languages amongst them. They start families. They like, like, like they're such a developed species. People don't realize how intelligent those fucking animals are. They're so smart.

[A]

Well if you watch Avatar Way of the Water they kind of play up how smart they have. Well they have whale like creatures.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And the whales are. The whale like creatures are as smart if not smarter than human beings. Yeah.

[B]

And they're so sweet. Like you know if a sperm whale opens his mouth.

[A]

That's not necessarily true. What whales are known in some instances to be vengeful. Mean that's not just orcas, they're the ones flipping both.

[B]

But they're not killing the human beings. They flip the boats for fun. But they, and they could kill the humans. They're like, we'll leave, we'll leave you alone. We just want it to be mischievous and be shady.

[A]

There's essentially only one animal in the world that's, that's known to try to

[B]

eat humans which is only one mosquito.

[A]

Polar bears. Polar bears are essentially the only animal in the world that see not the only, but one of the only animals in the world that, that will eat humans for prey. Other animals will eat us. But they have to be very desperately hungry.

[B]

Right?

[A]

They have to be like really, really, really hungry. Polar bears can be like I'm feeling a little peckish and it's going. And also think about like if you think a grizzly bear is scary, grizzly bears will leave you alone too. Grizzly bears don't they see us as

[B]

a threat to like stand up to grizzly.

[A]

But the black one, they see us, they see us as a threat, but they don't see us as food. Polar bears, once a polar bear has locked in on you, there's essentially nothing you can do. Polar bears are bigger than grizzly bears. They are faster than grizzly bears. They are stronger than grizzly bears. A polar bear can smell you from miles away. That's so.

[B]

I wish I could do that.

[A]

Most like as a New Yorker, you want to smell things from my. Yeah. I can't even fathom some bitch. The smells you would. Oh, the smells you could smell in New York City. I want to smell what's in my vicinity. Especially girl not living in a big city. No, you don't want to smell. Big cities do not smell good.

[B]

Okay, but I don't only bitch. I don't only dwell in a big city, Bob.

[A]

But you dwell in a lot of big cities. You live in la. You live in. You live in New York City. And right now you're in Edinburgh. But I'm. You're gonna be smelling more than haggis, honey.

[B]

But I'm sure when you have that. That sense, like, you can. There has to be a level. Like, example. I can see far, but I can also choose what I see.

[A]

That's not how smelling works. Monet.

[B]

You don't know. We don't have that. We don't have it developed that much. There may be a way that you can control that. We don't know that.

[A]

There might be, but it just seems like. Cause you can zone in on things. You can look away from things, but you can't smell past things.

[B]

Maybe like dogs. Dogs can kind of do that.

[A]

Do Old factory. I don't think the olfactory works that way.

[B]

Like when dogs want to. Like when do you. You can train a dog to smell further. They're like. And they're smelling for that specific thing. So that's why. That's when they go on the thing. But they're not doing that all the time. They're not just like, all the time.

[A]

Anyway.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I have a poor. I have a terrible sense of smell. And I'm happy with it. Like, I have a terrible sense of smell. And I'm cool.

[B]

Patty does, too. Patty has a horrible sense of smell.

[A]

Probably from all those fucking cigarettes. Cigarettes will kill your sense of smell.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Cigarettes do kill your sense of smell. That's true.

[B]

It does seem like you're attacking Patty. It doesn't seem very nice.

[A]

You know, Domino can't smell at all, right? And you know who else can't smell? I just found out recently. Taylor can't smell.

[B]

Explains his taste.

[A]

Drag her. You know, I'm not. No contact with my Father. But I am very little contact. Like, if it depends. Like, sometimes he'll, like, text, and I'll just be like, I'm not. I'm just not in the mood to entertain whatever is going on on the phone. My dad never calls me, like, oh, hey. I'm always like. Whenever my dad calls him, like, what is going on here? It's always that, like, okay,

[B]

yeah. Cause you don't know what you like. Cause you know that they're not calling. Cause you don't think that he's calling to, like, check up on you and genuinely be like, hey, Corey. Like, you think. You think there's a. There. There's a motive to. To the call?

[A]

Well, my dad. Years ago, my dad called me, and I had just come out to him, and he was like, why didn't you come out to me? And I was like, we have so much catching up to do.

[B]

Why did you or why didn't you.

[A]

Why didn't you come out to me earlier? And I was like, we have so much catching up to do. Me being. Me being gay is like, at the baby, I. Do you even know I live in New York right now? You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then when I told him I lived in New York City, like, I thought we were gonna talk, he immediately wanted to get into this, like, knockoff purse scam business. He was like, I need you to go to la. I need to go down Times Square, find some of the guys who sell purses, and, like, figure out how we can get in on this together. And I was like, what? And I was like, I. Excuse me. He was like, trying to get me to do the groundwork for his fucking knockoff purse business. And I was like, this is insane.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, this is. This is the comeback. And then I had this, like, fantasy of us, like, living together for a short while in New York City. And I cannot imagine if I've never. I've never lived. I mean, I lived my dad. I was like, probably two or three, but I've never, like, I don't have any memories of ever living with my father ever, ever, ever.

[B]

Yeah. So, like, when. So they shipped me to St. Lucia, and then I lived in St. Lucia until I was 10. And then my parents in St. Lucia got divorced, so they were like, you know, you should maybe. So then June was like, that's my birth mother's name. She was like, you should come and live with me in Atlanta. So that's when I lived in.

[A]

It's kind of wild that your birth mother's name was June, and Naomi's adoptive mother's name was June.

[B]

I know. That is such a weird. What if it's the same person?

[A]

Probably. I've seen pictures of June. And I'm assuming that you're not biracial.

[B]

I'm assuming you don't know what I am. And then.

[A]

So again, I said assuming. I said assuming.

[B]

That's when I lived in Atlanta for that year with her and my stepfather, my little brother. And then again, she. She was just not like my grandmother. And my aunt would send me money for Christmas gifts, and then they would find out. They wouldn't talk to me on the phone and find out that she got

[A]

grifts, not a Christmas gift. So you admit it.

[B]

They would find out that. They would ask me about them, and they'll find out that she didn't purchase them. And they're like, you know what? That's it. So that's when I moved to New York when I was 11.

[A]

How many shipping purchased them? Who purchased them?

[B]

Like, my grandmother. My aunt would send her money to buy me Christmas gifts and stuff. Like, stuff that I was. She's like. They're like, oh, you just send the money because Kevin wants this and it'll be easier. Easier or cheaper if I get it down here, whatever. And they would do it. And then they talked to me, the phone. They're like, so how is that? How's that? How's that? SEGA Dreamcast? And I'm like, what's SEGA Dreamcast? And I found out, like, she wasn't doing the things that she said she was doing. Like, that's it.

[A]

So then, wait. Oh, wait, wait, wait. So it was a Christmas grift, Literally.

[B]

She was grifting me.

[A]

So she was asking for money to buy you things, but never buying you the thing.

[B]

Right, right. And then they would ask me about it. My grandma was like, so the SEGA Dreamcast, like, what's. Like, how. How is it? Are you having fun playing it?

[A]

I'm like, what SEGA Dreamcast? I was like, I so hate that you didn't get a Dreamcast, because that was a fucking great.

[B]

I did get it when I moved to New York. They bought it for me.

[A]

That was a. Honestly, justice for the SEGA Dreamcast.

[B]

Did you ever play Power Stone?

[A]

No, I played. What did I play? Twisted metal. That was on the PlayStation.

[B]

That was PlayStation. But there was.

[A]

Which brother. There's a TV show. There's a Twisted Metal TV show now, apparently.

[B]

Is there? I never twisted myself. That's that car game, right? I never Got into it.

[A]

Well, it was like. But it was like a fighting game. It was like. It was like a car. It was like a fighting game disguised as a driving game. But, yeah, I played mostly Sonic. I played a lot of Sonic on Dreamcast, really? Because Sonic. You don't know Sonic is to Sega what Mario is Nintendo.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And like, Sonic was like the poster. Poster boy with Tetris.

[B]

Have you seen Tetris yet? The movie?

[A]

I'm just not interested.

[B]

It's really. Bob. I was. I was like, this is gonna be dumb. And Andy was like, let's just watch it. So we watched it. It's actually really good. I was not expecting. I thought it was gonna be some stupid, lame movie about Tetris. And it is about Tetris, but it's really good. Terrence Ed, Terence Terry, whatever the name is. He's a really good actor. It's really. It's like. It's almost like a. It's not a comedy, but it's really good. I would recommend. It's a really good movie.

[A]

Tetris seems like a movie that Andy would drag you to watch.

[B]

It definitely did. But I'm happy that it's really good.

[A]

But also, like. There's also, like, BlackBerry. Have you seen the BlackBerry movie?

[B]

No, I haven't seen that. I didn't know there was one.

[A]

There's a movie about the BlackBerry. Like, we made the BlackBerry. Here it is, the BlackBerry movie.

[B]

Well, you know, now they made the Barbie movie. They're about to make more of these doll movies. You know, there's gonna be. And especially how well Barbie did. It's about to. We're about to have an onslaught of fucking doll or cart or action figure movie things.

[A]

Have you seen that? Barbie is Black Panther.

[B]

That shit. Black Panther for white. For white ladies.

[A]

Barbie's Black Panther. And they did the comparison. I was like.

[B]

Was so funny.

[A]

But to be fair, there are basically. I think Shakespeare or someone said there's, like five stories, and everyone's just telling the same five stories over and over and over again.

[B]

And yeah, yeah. Lion King is Hamlet.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

So then. So then after that. And then. So from that point, from the time I was 11, I really had, like, no contact. No, that's not true. Because when I moved back to New York, she and my stepfather divorced. Well, not my stepfather, but her, I guess. He's my stepfather. They divorced like, a year after that. And then she moved with us in New York for, like. She lived in New York with me for, like, two years with not even two Years. A year with my younger brother. And then from that point on, then she moved to Milwaukee. Then we had no contact since then. And it's just because I chose to go back then. I don't think I wanted to be no contact. I think that. Of course, I think I wanted a relationship with my mom. I wanted that. But she was not in a space to do so, and she was still an unfit mother, and I wanted that. But in high school. I think high school is when I remember making a conscious decision to be like, oh, I'm not texting her back. I'm not calling. I need to separate myself from this person. When I was, like, 16 or 17.

[A]

Oh, that's. That's. That's. I. I didn't have the wherewithal to try to not contact my dad. I was desperately trying, really.

[B]

Until.

[A]

When? Still have a. Until didi. Didi. My grandma died. Till his mother. When his mom died, I was like,

[B]

how old were you?

[A]

Well, actually, it was. It was a little bit before him. I was. My grandmother died when I was, like, in my. My second or third year of college, but it was a little bit before that. So it was basically after my dad stole my car. For those who don't know, my father stole my car. When I was in college. My grandma bought me a car. My father sold it. And after my dad sold my car, that's when I decided I didn't want to speak to him anymore. So I was in college. That was. That was a little bit. So then my grandma gave my. My cousin gave me a car for $500. And then my dad came, like, met. Like, it's like he knew the car, and he, like, appeared, crawled out of the fucking woodwork.

[B]

Someone in the family had to have told him. That's how he found out.

[A]

I mean, yeah, probably my father's sisters, like, keep him afloat. Like, my. I. The women in my family are truly keeping this bitch afloat. Like, the whole family. Like, Jacob has seen it. The women in my family. I come from a matriarchal family. The women are the powerhouses. They just run my entire family. Jacob has seen it. My mother is, like, 98 pounds if she's soaking wet. And she is, like, running this whole house from her bed. It's kind of crazy. My tiny, little skinny mom be. Also, my mom is so funny because she's, like, on oxygen, swearing she can't breathe. But this woman can scream. I tell you that if you make it past the threshold of the dog Christmas cameo, and, like, you can hear her voice. And I bought her this Google home. So you can send messages to Other Realm. You can just say, hey, send a message to Cameo's room. Send a message to the living room. But she is. This woman is screaming because she don't

[B]

trust technology, because she knows AI gonna fuck up a message. She's like, no, I need to get my shit heard from my. With my voice.

[A]

No, my mom, she trusts technology and medicine. My mom's not one of those, like, I don't trust technology and medicine. My mother is like, technology and medicine. Give it to me.

[B]

That's fierce. If your mom could do it. My mom cannot operate technology at all. She cannot operate it at all.

[A]

Well, my mom. My mom. School was. Yeah, yeah. So my mother loves technology. My mom's like. Like, when. Like, whenever people are buying, like, women purses, my mom was like, if you want to buy me something, buy me. Buy me a digital camera. Buy me a printer. Buy me. You know, my mom loved cameras.

[B]

It was so funny when you were talking with the mic, and she's like,

[A]

get the thing on my face. I was like. I was like, I have to put the characters. I. I know, but I don't want her in my face. I was like, well, Ma, I don't know what to tell you. Cause you have to talk into the camera to the microphone. So please talk to the microphone.

[B]

This is so funny.

[A]

My mother is very funny. She's a very, very funny lady. If you have not watched the episode with Bob's mom, go back and check it out. She's a real hoot. The people pointed out. There are several moments where me and my mom were both looking at you the exact same way. We were both like. But also. Me and my mom both have the same face where we look disinterested, but we're really not. We're really listening.

[B]

Which is funny. Cause y' all said that to me. I was like. I was listening. People were like, monet, what's. Why. I was like. I was. I don't. I was listening.

[A]

My mom said that, and I was just razzing you because it felt nice to. I know, Bob.

[B]

I'm aware.

[A]

When are we gonna get your mom on the pod?

[B]

When I go to St. Lucia. I. I might go for Christmas. I don't know. Actually, that's not true, because my family went to. Well, I don't know. Maybe. Hopefully this year. Who knows? But I.

[A]

There. Take me.

[B]

There is. There's no one for me to send to her house either. Like how you have your good nephews and shit. There's no one for me to like. I have to bring my shit and record it with her.

[A]

No, I send friends from college. Mind if you don't know how to. I have to send my. I have to send my college friends over whenever I like, want to record my mom or my uncle, which is pretty rare. I send my. My Summer Cuscan. My oldest friend you met. You remember when you came.

[B]

Summer.

[A]

Summer. I have the Summer. I have two. Two of my oldest friends. The black girl and the tiny white girl. Summer is a tiny white girl. And Summer just goes to my mom's house. And, like, Summer and my mom are so funny to go to because they're like. They're so dichotomous because Summer is like. She's country. I have Summer on the podcast sometimes. Summer's like, country. If y' all want to see Summer, go to my. My Snatch Game. Disaster. And she's the one playing Justin Bieber.

[B]

Right? Right. All right.

[A]

Summer is like four foot ten. I think ninety.

[B]

Summer is three months.

[A]

Do what? Anyway, shut the hell up. Four, ten. About 95 pounds, literally. But she also, like, curses a lot there. I'm almost like, oh, my God. Summer be in these streets cussing like, Summer's like, the fuck. But she also has, like. Like a Southern accent, but not a thick Southern accent. She just. She's really interesting. Summer's is. I think Summer's literally my oldest friend.

[B]

Wait, the car. So your dad found out you got this car?

[A]

Yes, my dad found out that I got this car. And he came over and he was like, can I borrow your car? He had just got out of prison or jail and, can I borrow your car? And I was like, yeah, but I'm gonna be at work, so I'm gonna leave the keys in the car. But you have to come pick me up for work and drive me to school, because I have to make you school. And I used to live walking distance from my job, so I was at the Chick Fil A. Don't judge me. I was young, I needed the money. I was at Chick Fil A waiting for my dad to come pick me up, and he just never came. And I never. And I just never saw that Nissan Sentra ever again. Ever.

[B]

It just.

[A]

I don't know where that car is at this day.

[B]

And from that point on, you said, no contact. We can't be.

[A]

No. Then my dad got arrested again. And then it was probably, like, two years. Then I got the. Then my cousin gave me the $500 car.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And then he came back in my life and then he was like, oh. I was like, oh, I'm having trouble with the car. Obviously, it cost $500. There's something wrong with the car. And he was like, oh, I'll fix it for you. Just leave the keys. And I said, not again. Look, do I. Do I got a dumb bitch written on my forehead? You think I'm about to leave my keys in the car again? This is crazy. If you think I'm about to leave the keys. I didn't say. I was like, no, I'll just take it to the shop. So then he calls my mom and is like, can you believe he doesn't trust me? And she was like, you stole his car? Yes, I can believe he doesn't trust you. You stole his car and then he never saw you again for two years. And then you came back being like, let me borrow your car, girl. No. Also, you're not a mechanic, right? My father's an electrician, but he's not a. But electrician does not a mechanic make, right? Okay.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, I've never had that interaction with you.

[A]

Also, my father's a late life electrician, by the way. My father learned to be an electrician, like when I like eight years ago. It wasn't like. It's not like he's been an electrician since I was a child.

[B]

Right?

[A]

He was, he was. My dad was like a hustler before. He was like a hustler.

[B]

I'm a hustler, baby. Truly. I never had that. June, like, I thought we went in contact with her. She just got it and she doesn't even contact me. And then she was still in contact. She didn't talk to my family for a while and she started talking to my family again. And then like before the pandemic, like 2019 or something, my family was having this big barbecue in Brooklyn and then it was like, oh my God, June's coming. Like, June has agreed to come. My family would do a barbecue every year at my aunt house in Brooklyn.

[A]

It's like a musical, literally. June's coming. June's coming. June's coming, June's coming.

[B]

So, like, everyone's excited, like, because they haven't seen her in so long. And she now she had this new kid that was like three years old. And we were like, she has to bring this new kid.

[A]

And you didn't say my brother, you

[B]

said this kid, my brother. I mean, I don't even know his name. Micah.

[A]

His name is Monet. Monet said, fuck you ain't.

[B]

His name is Micah. Everyone was, like, excited that June's gonna come. And then my grandma's like. My aunt was like, are you okay? Comfortable with her coming? I was like, yeah. And people always look at me like, how are you so okay? Like, that's not. Like, you should go see a therapist about it. I'm like, because. And I've said this many times. Like, I'm just. I am so grateful for the love. I think what it is. And maybe. Maybe adopted kids can maybe speak to this too. Like, there's something to me that's so. That was so healing to me that someone chose. That someone that was not their kid chose to raise me and love me as their own. Like, I don't feel like I'm. I don't feel like I've. Like, I've lost on anything. Sure, in a perfect world, I would have loved to have a relationship with my biological mother, but I found someone who I wasn't there. So to me, that's an even bigger connection. That's an even bigger love that I.

[A]

That's fierce.

[B]

Yeah. Like, you didn't. You didn't have to do this. You chose to be my parents. So, like, I guess maybe that's why I don't feel any ways about it. And then. So I was like, yeah, like, she can come. That's fine. And then she was there. She got there before I got there. I pull up with Kameka. I don't think Kamika was the man. I think I came by myself. Or maybe Kamika, did Amika. Did you come? Anyway, so we get there, and I walk in the room.

[A]

Does she listen to every pod?

[B]

Kameka? Yeah, Kameka's on Patreon. Oh, word. And then. So as soon as I walk through the front door of the house, my grandmother's in the kitchen making some Mac and cheese and some oxas, whatever it is. And then she looks at the door and she goes, june, Kevin. It's time. And I was like, oh, my God, the drama of it all. So then she comes from.

[A]

You make your grandma sound like Rafiki.

[B]

That's what it felt like.

[A]

It's his time.

[B]

It's literally what it felt like, Bob. I was like.

[A]

And the spirit of light calling her here.

[B]

So then she comes from the backyard, and then she sees me, and she hugs me, and she's. Immediately she starts to cry. I mean, like, crying. Crying, crying.

[A]

Sovereign, do you look alike?

[B]

Yeah, we look alike. I'll find a picture. When I go back home, I have a picture. I Can. I'll put on pretty strong, but I'm in Scotland right now.

[A]

Yeah, send me a picture so I can find out who it's on site with.

[B]

I have, I also have a picture of my dad, my biological father, when he was finishing up his jail in French prison. He's in like this like fucking, like dope, like in France. Yeah, he did prison in France because he got arrested.

[A]

Exotic.

[B]

He got arrested in Martinique, which is the neighboring countries of Saint Lucia, which is French owned. So when he got arrested, there's for some reason they send it to French jail, like a whole thing.

[A]

So listen, so if you want to, if you want a vacation, if you want to get arrested anywhere. And my father went to prison in Alabama like some, like some common criminal. Your father went to Maasai for prison dollars.

[B]

I look just like my dad, though. Like, I look just like my dad. So then, so then she's hugging me, she's like crying, and she's also holding this kid. And I was like, who is. I didn't know. No one told me that she had a kid.

[A]

I was like, who the fuck is this? Who this motherfucker?

[B]

And then, so she's like crying and then she's like, can we go upstairs? I was like, sure. So we go upstairs and she's like, I'm so sorry for everything I've done. Like, I'm really sorry. I want to be back in your life. I'm sorry for. Blah, blah, blah. I'm really sorry. I was like, it's fine. I was like, I was like, she's like, she's like, can we like, you know, figure this out? And I was like, yeah, of course we can. So we exchanged numbers and then it lasted for like two months and then boom, she just stopped being responsive and she'd have disappeared again. So I'm like, I'm cool with it, girl. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's being. Not contacting you is better for my mental. Well, being. Like, I'm not doing this.

[A]

There's a part of me that's so online that I was like, I want to like, go to therapy with my father, but I want to record it and release it as a series and be like, it's just see what happens. Like every therapy session with my father, record all of them and, and like, release it and see what happens. Because, like, I, I do wanna, I do want to heal from it, but I, I'm not there yet. And my dad is just such an interesting person because He. Everything he's ever done has been like. He's never done any of it to me to. To my face. It's all been. I've never seen my dad. I've never even seen my dad drunk.

[B]

Really.

[A]

I've never. I've never even seen my dad sip a beer before.

[B]

But he's an alcoholic.

[A]

My father is a drug addict. Okay. But I've never even seen my dad sip a. But also, whenever he comes back in my life, he's like, sober. So whenever he's in my life, it's because he's in program.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And then whenever he's, you know. And by the way, a lot of folks are having these moments. Do you know about Jeanette McCurdy's book?

[B]

No.

[A]

It's called I'm Glad My Mom Died.

[B]

Damn, girl.

[A]

I said she. And people are like, really? Like, how could you? So I'm not a Disney kid growing up, but Jennette McCurdy is. Jennette McCurdy has decided to heal online. She has an entire web series now where she. Have you heard about her web series?

[B]

No.

[A]

Where she's reliving her life. Because apparently Jennette McCurdy does not like a. If you were a Disney kid, you'll know her as soon as you see her face. Jeanette McCurdy does not like a certain singer who may or may not be in the new movie that we can't promote movies because we're both members of Union Strong. But there's a certain singer who hits high notes and she's not Mariah carey and Jeanette McCurdy hates her.

[B]

A certain singer.

[A]

Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly.

[B]

Can you. I don't know.

[A]

Who hits whistle notes. A singer who has whistle notes and is not Mariah Carey and is much younger and it's going to be okay. Got it. Yeah. So there is a. There is a. She has a web series where there's this character named Stariana.

[B]

Uh huh.

[A]

And Stariana's a bitch. Like Stariana is like. Is like nasty and rude and doesn't care about people. And Stariana has a high ponytail. And Stariana is like this major bitch character.

[B]

Brother named Blankie.

[A]

I mean. Yeah, yeah. Like it's kind of wild. Like her name Stariana Venti. No, but there's literally a character named Stariana in her web series and Stariana is just always being mean to Jeanette McCurdy's character in this web series. So when Jennette McCurdy wrote this, I'm pretty sure that's Jeanette McCurdy, right? Yeah. So when Jennette McCurdy Wrote the book, I'm glad My mom died, people were like, how could you? And she was like, she's my mom, and these are my feelings.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So, like, fuck you guys. I am glad my mom died.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. There's this thing people hear that. They're like, how can you say about your parents? Like, you don't know my lived experience. Like, you don't like, why? Well, there's also. We talked about this before. Like, this thing of, like, you have to. And it comes from the. It comes from the fucking Bible. You have to honor your parents. I'm like, no. No, I do not. They chose to bring me into this world. I don't have to honor anyone.

[A]

I'm really glad that I've heard about people being raised with toxic parents, and I see a lot of it online, and I'm so glad that my father was not a part of my raising. Not. I mean, my part of my father's. Part of my life is not like. I don't know my dad is. But he was. It was in and out. I was. I was not raised in the toxic household. My mother is. I mean, she was. She. My mom's interesting. Well, to say. To say the least. But when I see people talking about being raised by, like, someone who, like, is a narcissist or all this stuff, I'm like, I can't. I can't relate because I just did not have. I just didn't have that experience. I just didn't have that experience. I mean, like, do you, like. But also, I think I said the thing before. Like, if you're a narcissist, can you. Can't you kind of, like, not. Like, can't you, like, not help it?

[B]

Yeah, like, it's like a. It's like a. It's like a psychological condition. Right? Like, you have to get.

[A]

There's like, some help you can. You can get, but you have to, like, be where, be aware to get the help, right?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, I believe so. And I mean. Yeah, I mean, I don't. I mean, maybe in some aspect, maybe my birth mother is narcissistic in some way and that's causing her to behave in a certain way. I mean, I don't know. I mean, do you think. Do you.

[A]

My dad's not a narcissist. My dad is not a narcissist.

[B]

Do you think that this relationship with your. With your dad affected how you've. Like, how you've interacted with people like the relationships and friendships that you created. Because I don't think that's true for me.

[A]

I'm sure it must have in some way, but I've not done the work to figure out exactly how. You know what I mean?

[B]

But you had to go to therapy to heal from this. Like, do you think that. Do you think that. Do you think that going to therapy will give you some type of revelation and, like, release? Cause people always, like, if you. There's not people, like, the two or three people I've ever spoken to, but, like, girl, you just need to, like, go to, like, therapy, and it's gonna. Like. I'm like, I don't know what therapy's gonna change for me that I haven't achieved for myself with this. With this interrelation.

[A]

Like, Monet's like, I'm good. I did ayahuasca in Joshua Tree, so I'm good.

[B]

I think there is. I just don't know what it is. And I'm like, well, I can't get. I mean, again, I can do therapy without her. I don't need her to be in therapy, but I would like to do it with her because I think that that's the only way to get full closure.

[A]

Is there any party that wants to record it, or is that just me?

[B]

I mean, I would record it. I think that would be very interesting. You know, Chelsea Handler, Life would be the death of me. She didn't record it, but she documented her first, her going to therapy to work out, like, why she was being so mean, why she was such a bitch, and, like, why she was such a bad person early. She wasn't a bad person, but, you know, she had a reputation of being whatever. And it was because she was holding onto so much stuff from the death of her brother and the death of her mom and how her family dynamics, what she did not realize were creating her to be this way. And she didn't document. She didn't video it, but she documented it, and she has a book about it, and it is really interesting, and it helps a lot of people to heal her experiences.

[A]

Did I say that? Chelsea Handler called me Monet X Change for the first month that we knew each other

[B]

because you.

[A]

And then I think. And then I think that she. I was like. I was like. We had this gig together, and at Mateo's gig that she, like, showed up at, and I was like, chelsea, I'm not Monet X Change. So then she started, like, doubling down as a bid. So Now I'm getting DMs to my Bob and Drag Queen account. Be like, hello, Monet. Chelsea. I'm not Monet. Exchange, bitch.

[B]

I love jealousy.

[A]

And she. She's constantly trolling my Instagram stuff.

[B]

Oh, yeah, she always comment. Be like, you post on this. She was like, girl. Okay. She's very funny.

[A]

You know who. There are. There are people who will. Who. There are people who, if they will do anything, it is comment on your Instagram or your Twitter. Bianca, Dario, Chelsea Handler, Raja. Raja will put a heart on your post. Raja just beat. I think Raja just.

[B]

Sutan. Sutan.

[A]

Sutan.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah, Sutan. Would Sutan be sitting around just fucking double tapping in a heart all day? All day? I'm telling you, I want to see how many hearts Sutan is putting on everyone's. It's giving Gen X. It's giving drunk Auntie.

[B]

I fucking love Raja. I saw. The last time I saw Raja was at the Nina west thing. Spray. And she had on these. Really?

[A]

How was Hairspray?

[B]

Hairspray was great. Hairspray was really great.

[A]

Nina was really good.

[B]

Like, I'm not. I did not. I wasn't. I didn't know. I don't know Nina to be a singer. I didn't. So I knew Nina because. Is a good actress. Actor. I didn't know how to be a singer. Nina sounded really good as well, and she was one of the best in the show for sure.

[A]

I need to. I love Hairspray so much. Hairspray clothes. Like, either right before or right after.

[B]

After.

[A]

I moved to New York City in 2008. I think it closed in. I want to say that. I want to say before I look it up, that Hairspray closed in July of 2008. That's what I want to say. So I think it was either before or it might have closed in September of 2008, because I landed in August of 2008, and that's why I feel like it closed. Am I right? Does anyone. Anyone Google it already?

[B]

I didn't Google it. I think you said Jacob.

[A]

Well, you started typing Jacob. When did. When did Hairspray close? Hairspray closed January 2009. So, okay, so I was there for. I could. I was there for, like, five months. I could have seen it.

[B]

Yeah, so you didn't want to see it. Be real.

[A]

Well, I didn't have enough money, Monet. I was.

[B]

Oh, yeah, because you told that man you was moving with $700 and you ain't have your shit together.

[A]

I forgotten triggered. Monet. I am. I said 1400, and I landed with 700. But, yeah, I. It closed. Okay. January 2009. So I was there for, like, five months and it closed.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I just never got to see it. And so I wanted to go on tour and see it, but then I started rehearsing with Madonna, but then I was on break. But then I'm. I'm trying to go see. I was gonna try to go see work the world before I go on tour.

[B]

I told you we went to the Rhode island show because you told me today you were going to.

[A]

Why would you say that?

[B]

Cause you said you were going. You said on the podcast.

[A]

Did I say it on the podcast?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think you are mixing. What? Sometimes we talk right after the podcast. Now I have to go now. You know me. I'm one of the folks. Like, if it's out there now, I have to do it. All right, Jacob. Jacob. I guess I'm going to Rhode Island.

[B]

But in regards to. Also, if you have gone, no contact with your parent or someone really close to you, I'm really interested in those stories because I didn't realize that no contact was such a big thing and so many people do it, and it is making a lot of people live better lives. Comment on the Patreon or the Instagram or the YouTube. Wherever you're watching this, I'm really curious through it, and I will be reading them because I find it to be a very interesting concept. That's something that in the past, like, five years has become very prominent. People are actively making a decision to go no contact because it serves them better that way.

[A]

Have you seen a scene from Fresh Prince where that's hard. That's a hard one. That's a hard watch.

[B]

It's a hard watch for you. I could imagine that's even. That's tough.

[A]

Well, my dad never didn't want me. I was never under the illusion my dad doesn't want me. My dad really wants to be in my life, but I'm just like, I'm good. I'm good on that.

[B]

What I'm probably is like, June is not an alcoholic. She's not a drug. She doesn't do anything. So I'm like. I think it's just. I don't know.

[A]

That's crazy. Wait, June doesn't do drugs or anything?

[B]

She doesn't do drugs, doesn't drink, nothing.

[A]

That's shady, right? That's shady. Like, I'm like, oh, my dad's just doing drugs. No, June's just like. June's just Doing laundry. She's like, I just. I just don't like that nigga. I don't want to hang out with that little nigga. Fuck him. He.

[B]

He.

[A]

He made him stop loving me. She took him. She made him go away. So literally.

[B]

And then, like, I had my. My younger brother Marley, who is now fully in jail in Wisconsin. And, like, part of it is probably because of not having his mom. I mean, I don't want to blame it on her. I don't know everything that went on his life, but I don't.

[A]

Maybe I thought she was going because that's. That's how my drama, my trauma is. I'm like, if your parents. It has to be. That is crazy, because I. I have a person in my life whose dad is just like, no, thank you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, he's not on drug. He. In fact, he has a whole other family with other kids, and his dad's just like, I'm just, like, not interested. I just, like. I don't. I don't know him. I don't want to know him. I don't want to talk to him. I'm just not interested in being in his life. I just don't want to.

[B]

That's so crazy. That is so bizarre to me.

[A]

I'll tell you who it is. After the break, I don't want to spill their tea, but the dad got tracked down. He knows. And they look like twins, really. And how could you just look at your child and just be like, no, thank you, girl.

[B]

Two of them.

[A]

Death to all of them.

[B]

Kevin and Marley. Now I hope.

[A]

I hope, honestly. Clap. Clap if you think she should suffer. Clap if you think she should suffer. They should suffer.

[B]

I hope Micah. I hope her new. I think at this point, Micah may be like, close to maybe nine or eight, seven. Something like that. I hope Micah has a better life with her. But Kevin and Marley, bitch, we got paid dust. She said,

[A]

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[B]

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If you.

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