The One About Healthcare

Summary

Sibling Rivalry – "The One About Healthcare"

Release Date: December 16, 2024
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change

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Episode Overview

This episode of Sibling Rivalry tackles the American healthcare system, the ethics and impact of billionaires, and the public’s response to the recent highly-publicized assassination of an insurance company CEO. With their signature blend of humor, candid storytelling, and cultural critique, Bob and Monét dig into why millions struggle under medical debt, the root causes (and limits) of hard-earned wealth, and personal anecdotes about everything from rotisserie chicken to game show dreams. Throughout the conversation, they circle back to questions about exploitation, ethical business practices, and what real change might look like.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Recent News & Assassination of United Healthcare's CEO

• Context: The episode is recorded amid the shocking assassination of United Healthcare’s Brian Thompson.

  • Detailed recounting of the murder and its “message-driven” nature.
  • The shooter’s evasion and the public’s reaction, including internet sympathy and memes about the high cost of healthcare.

• Notable Quotes:

  • “He pulled it out, popped him... shot him in the back. He went to the ground, he shot him in the leg. And then he shot a third bullet, but it didn’t hit him. And then he just fucking walked away. Got on a bike, also rode to the park...” (Bob, 25:51)
  • “Sympathy is out-of-network.” (Bob, 35:13)

• Public Reaction & Policy Impact:

  • Blue Cross Blue Shield quickly walks back an unpopular anesthesia coverage policy, likely out of fear after the CEO’s murder.
  • Discussion of “does violence ever create change?” with nuance, not condoning, but examining consequences.

  Timestamps: 24:55–36:31

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2. Healthcare System & Medical Debt

• Monét and Bob share personal stories about dealing with insurance companies, including Bob’s multi-month struggle after a house fire.

  • Bob: “I am still fighting my insurance company. This is... These insurance companies do not give a fuck about... They don’t. I’m telling you, Monet. They don’t care if you have lost everything.” (32:22)

• Both hosts express disdain for how the system is structured to benefit companies over people.

• Statistics: Over 60% of bankruptcies in the US are due to medical bills (Bob, 33:48).

• Monét advocates for systemic, governmental change rather than targeting individual CEOs:

  • “Killing a CEO of a medical company does not... That’s not fixing a sentiment of the problem. The problem is our government and how we have allowed these people and these companies to operate this way...” (Monét, 33:48)

• Critique of lobbying, regulatory capture, and lack of political action.

  Timestamps: 33:08–37:41

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3. Anesthesia Coverage & Cost Breakdown

• Explains Blue Cross Blue Shield’s quickly-retracted anesthesia policy: limiting payment for hours of anesthesia even during major surgery.

• Personal anecdotes about surgery costs, anesthesia, and different types of anesthesia (general, local, regional).

  • “That shit is expensive. Getting general anesthesia added to your surgery... like $4,000 more.” (Monét, 28:23)

  Timestamps: 27:05–31:40

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4. Ethics of Being a Billionaire

• Deep debate on whether anyone can become a billionaire without unethical practices.

  • Bob: “No one becomes a billionaire because they’re just working so hard. Working hard is not what makes billionaires. Exploitation is what makes billionaires.” (51:16)
  • Monét: “I do think hard work is part of the pie... It’s not the only thing, but... often part of the equation.” (57:44)

• Discussion of labor, exploitation, the illusion of meritocracy, and the ways capitalism inherently exploits workers at every level.

  • Bob: “You have to exploit people to have a profitable business... If you’re doing $50 an hour worth of work but I’m only paying you $40, you’re being exploited.” (62:09)

• Monét raises real-world complications; even smaller entrepreneurs can be called exploitative by someone.

• Extended analogy about ethical gray zones in business success and obesity to illustrate the impossibility of being fully ethical at a huge scale.

  Timestamps: 50:11–66:39

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5. Personal Musings & Lighter Moments

• Dreams Outside Drag:

  • Monét dreams of being a spokesperson (à la Flo from Progressive) or game show host.
    • “My two biggest... I would love a Flo from Progressive kind of thing... or host a game show.” (Monét, 09:44)

• Fame & Wealth:

  • Bob talks about never wanting “billionaire” money or extreme fame.
    • “I don’t have any desire to be that famous. I don’t want to be crazy wealthy... My motivation has never been money.” (Bob, 50:11)
  • Monét ponders the drag-fame-to-music pipeline and how it relates to notoriety.

• Comedic Asides:

  • Banter about food—supermarkets vs. grocery stores, best fried chicken by region (Ralph’s in LA gets high marks), rotisserie chicken nutrition math.
  • Childhood stories: abusing motorized scooters at Walmart and Piggly Wiggly nostalgia.
  • Playful outtakes: wig tips, family jabs, and Amazon Prime hypocrisy.

  Timestamps:

  • Game show/voiceover dreams: 8:14–12:03
  • Food and supermarkets: 13:45–21:53
  • Closing wig & family jokes: 73:24–end

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Memorable Quotes

• On Healthcare & Insurance:

  • “They are ruining these lives. I’m not saying that everyone should be out there, but I’m saying, like, why does it... Oh my God, their lives. Didn’t nobody care about their lives and they were happening.” (Bob, 36:31)

• On Billionaire Ethics:

  • “Everyone on that side is unethical. All of them.” (Bob, 66:17)
  • “...To get to that point... there is hard work that comes into doing that... but hard work is often part of the equation.” (Monét, 57:44)
  • “You have to exploit people to have a profitable business. Exploiting is... If you are taking someone’s work and then what they’re giving you, you are charging more for it, you are exploiting them.” (Bob, 61:29)

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Notable & Fun Moments

• Monét’s Chicken Anatomy Argument:

  • “A whole chicken has two breasts.”
  • Bob retorts: “A chicken doesn’t have two breasts ... it is a chicken breast. They’re not like individual titties.” (21:03–21:40)

• Walmart Wheelchair & Scooter Antics:

  • Both recall joyriding mobility scooters for fun as teens, reflecting on the South’s cultural quirks. (15:32–16:12)

• On American Assassins:

  • Full rundown of assassinated U.S. presidents, complete with fact-checking and gallows humor. (45:38–46:15)

• On Prime Accounts:

  • Bob calls out Monét: “You’re lying. I’ve been at your house and watched Amazon Prime. You’re lying.” (72:24)

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Timeline of Important Segments

| Segment | Start | End | |------------------------------------------|-----------|-----------| | Intro / Housekeeping / Promo | 01:11 | 03:28 | | Recent News: CEO Assassination | 24:55 | 36:31 | | Healthcare System & Medical Debt | 33:08 | 37:41 | | Anesthesia Policy & Costs | 27:05 | 31:40 | | Ethics of Billionaires / Exploitation | 50:11 | 66:39 | | Lighter moments (game shows, food) | 8:14 | 21:53 | | Outtakes, banter, wigs, family | 73:24 | End |

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Takeaways

• American healthcare's failures are widely felt and the public's anger is reaching new heights; even acts of violence against corporate leaders spark complicated, sometimes unsympathetic reactions.
• Debate remains around whether immense wealth can be built ethically, with both hosts landing at nuanced, candid uncertainties.
• At every level, from pop culture success stories to local business, capitalism’s reliance on “exploitation” is interrogated—humor leavened with sobering insight.
• As always, Bob and Monét’s blend of playful sparring and social critique offers listeners both laughter and plenty to chew on.

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For fans and newcomers alike, this episode is a sharp, wide-ranging, and deeply personal exploration of money, ethics, healthcare, and American hustle—delivered with trademark drag wit.

Transcript

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[Monet X Change]

Well, y' all listen. I mean I personally, I don't know about Bob. Let me speak for me. I need y' all to go to Sibling Rivalry where you listen to your Apple podcasts and give us a rating 5 stars and leave a comment. Just say like, yo, my nigga, this is the best show I ever heard. If you black though, if you white, don't you dare type that shit. If you somebody like, if you light

[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, wherever you listen to your podcast, please, please, please do that for us. It helps us out so, so much. And hey guys, watchery will be back. That is right. Sibling Watch. We are going to be reviewing season 17 of RuPaul's Drag Race and we have an episode coming out right here on our podcast. And behind the scenes, if you want to hear us thought our thoughts on Untucked and you know, Untucked if honey, if you're not watching Untucked, you're only

[Monet X Change]

getting half the story eggs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Exactly. And you want our whole story, so go to our Patreon. It is exclusive on the patreon. Go to silver rivalry.com support or go to Google and type in S Rivalry, Patreon. And last but not least, y', all, I want to be a New York Times last. Not least for me, I want to be a New York Times bestseller. Please, please, please buy my book. I am so proud of this book. It's called Harriet Tubman Live in Concert is a book about Harriet Tubman coming back to life. And she's putting pen to paper and writing a brilliant hip hop album to continue her work as an abolitionist. I want to be a New York Times bestseller. I deserve this. And honestly, you will love this book. Publishers Weekly has reviewed it. They said it is a knockout is what they said. My first time out the park. You can go to read the drag queen.com right now to buy the book.

[Monet X Change]

And also, y', all, your girl is going on tour in January. I am doing my show, Life be Life and coming to a theater near you. I'm going, coming all across the states to about 15 cities. And if you want to see me do the show it was in, I have great reviews from Edinburgh, from the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, from playbill.com Broadway World. They all love, love, love the show. And you will, too. Storytelling, laughing, crying. It was better than Cats, I swear. No, for real. Come see me on the road. Go to monetexchange.com to get your tickets, and I'll see you in the theater.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So we need to say this episode was recorded a day before Luigi Mangione was arrested. So just keep that in mind. Yeah. That's all you want to say? You don't got nothing to say? I mean, did you, did you hear, you know, he was arrested in a McDonald's?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, he was in Pennsylvania with. Arrested with. With the guns and his manifesto. And did you hear this? Something that's supposed to come out on 11 that didn't come out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you hear this? Maybe they stopped it. Who knows? Did you hear this, though? The person who, who reported him did not get the money.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I heard that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because you're supposed to call the hotline and not911.

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And also it said you can win up to $10,000. Which, first of all, $10,000. Like, girl, those robots in the subway cost like $20,000.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it's. It's. It's so shady. And so that person got nothing for being a narcissist now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And he probably. I, I can't imagine that that person going to keep their job.

[Monet X Change]

They got. I mean, they got to keep their job. Why would they get fired?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're going to get harassed. People Are going to. People are mad. People do not want Luigi man caught. So it's going to bring that McDonald's nothing but fever.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I. I think he meant, like, McDonald's would fire him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think they will. Well, I don't even know.

[Monet X Change]

You can't fire someone like that. So, I mean, they have to give him. You can't just fire someone, like, for no. Reasonable. Like, that's not how that works.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, you can. It's a right to work thing. You can just fire someone for any reason. You don't have to give a reason to fire.

[Monet X Change]

No, it's a state by state. In New York State. You can. In New York State. That is the thing. Is a state by state thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's see. Is Pennsylvania. Is. How do you spell Pennsylvania?

[Monet X Change]

Is Pennsylvania M. I Crooked up. I Crooked up. I Humpback. Humpback.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I. Is Pennsylvania a right to work state? Bdpd. No, it's not a right to work state.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah. So you can't do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right to work laws. It has the right to work laws, though. But you have to be in a union. You have to guarantee that union membership and financial support are voluntary. Pennsylvania employment is at will, which means the employee can be dismissed at any time. So, yeah, you can be dismissed. You can be. You can be dismissed at any time. Time. So, yeah, they don't have to give you a reason. Also, there. There's a photo of Luigi Manioni with his pants soiled that the police took a photo of. I also noticed that a lot of the footage they have of him coming out of the police car, the sound is silent. And I suspect it's because people are actually cheering for Luigi and they don't

[Jacob]

want you to know that.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, he, like. He. He pe. He p. He peed himself.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. They. The. The police took a photo of him with his pants soiled and posted it on the Internet. Or leaked it.

[Monet X Change]

That's so crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And of course, there's been a lot of support because Luigi is very handsome. He is.

[Jacob]

You know what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, it's too late now, but my Luigi shirt came in. It might be too much to show. Should I show it to you?

[Monet X Change]

No, you can show it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is this. Is this too much to wear in public?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that's. That's a lot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why?

[Monet X Change]

I think it's a lot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You never had a picture with. That's a shirt that they saw at Walmart of me holding a gun of

[Monet X Change]

you holding a gun at Target of you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, your little. From the water gun thing or the Thing from your shoe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Me holding the gun.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but I mean, yours is not depicting a murdering of someone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was a. I murdered the competition. Kimchi found dead. Naomi found dead.

[Jacob]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Derek Barry found dead.

[Monet X Change]

Wow. Dax. Dax. Exclamation point.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Robbie Turner's Uber driver found dead. Actually not. I can't actually not. It didn't even exist. Actually didn't even exist. Anyway, you want to do a podcast?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen

[Monet X Change]

and I'm Monet X Change.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this is simply Rival. On this week's episode, we talk about the ethics of being a billionaire.

[Monet X Change]

We talk about healthcare.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we find out what made Monet say this.

[Monet X Change]

She had to like end up going to the hospital. Cause her body when it went into shock. And we find out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I don't think you want to be in that business. The other day, me and Monae were watching Wicked. I didn't know this. One of Monet's dreams is to be like a James Earl Jonesy, Morgan Freeman, Jane lynch, voiceover type.

[Monet X Change]

Jane lynch is the voiceover person. Like Jane lynch from Glee.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. So Jane Lynch's big break was. So James Earl Jones used to do all the voiceovers for the army, but around Desert Storm, they really wanted more women to join the army because there were not enough women in the army. They just wanted more women. They were like, we need a feminine voice. And Jane lynch was like, that was the gig that changed my life. That was the first gig I had where I was like, I've been set set since this gig. So Jane lynch was the army recruitment voice for. For women in. In the late 80s, early, early 90s.

[Monet X Change]

Famously voice acting work, like voiceover work does not pay. It does not always pay that well. Like when you do like a voiceover thing, it's. It's not always as lucrative as other things. Like this is standard. Everyone knows this. So how much voiceover work was she doing for the army that she was like, this set me up for the rest of my life. I didn't have to do anything else.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I reckon enough. And I mean it probably pays good money because it's the government and it was the army and they have money also.

[Monet X Change]

Why do you know that? Why do you know that the government needed more people for. For Desert Storm? You've been doing random weird shit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You. The interview that I saw, she somehow she. I was. I was in a Jane Lynch YouTube spiral and they were. She was talking about how she. She talking about this gig, like the gig that set her up for life, where she was. She has not had to worry since that gig.

[Monet X Change]

Well, can I get one of them?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think you'd want a career as one of those spokespeople like Flo or Jake from State Farm?

[Monet X Change]

My two biggest. Okay, these are my biggest dreams. Something I always wanted. I would love a Flow from State, from progressive kind of thing. Would love that. Or I would love to host a game show. Like I watched. I watch you every episode of Chopped. I would love to be Ted, the host of chopped. They're like 51 seasons in and he does his dish show. I would love to, like, host a game show. Like fucking what Michael Shahan does for Pyramid or fucking Steve Harvey Family Feud. I would love to host a. A game show. I just love games. I would love to. It's just all about personality and being able to read. Yeah, I would love to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That sounds that. I think you. I think you'd be really good at it. And you're. You're great with making people have. You host game. You literally host game nights at your house for. At cost. So I'm sure if you were getting paid for it, it'd be really great.

[Monet X Change]

Is there like a TV version of Anomia we could make that would be good for tv? You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's make one ourselves and put it up on Patreon and let's say it out loud and never actually do it. That'd be fun,

[Monet X Change]

right? Cause maybe, Bob, maybe we can make.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We can.

[Monet X Change]

We can make a game. The new game show that's going to be on air on. On network television.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I tell you that me and Monet fully made a game. We have every single. We. We.

[Monet X Change]

We.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Only thing we don't have is. Is the car's design. Like the actual graphic. We don't have a graphic design, but Monet and I sat down until like 5am in the Alps. Not manic state, not the Alps. Where was it? At the. The Naples. No, where's that place? The sw. The. The Sweden. Aspen and Aspen out. But we sat down. I mean, literally manic. Like, guys, we have the whole thing and honestly, this game is fun. Maybe. Maybe you should do. I think that you should host a show where you play games. Like you should host a Monet's game night.

[Monet X Change]

But not all games are friendly for tv though. We have to figure out ones that work, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, you have to figure it out. But you could do that. You could figure that out. You know what I mean, you're very smart. And it could be a house of rivalry. We need to be calling ourselves House of rivalry. I'm trying to push this lately.

[Monet X Change]

House of rivalry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I mean, right now we're low key. Kind of the only two members of house of rivalry. Kind of.

[Monet X Change]

Do we need to get some more drag children, some interns up in here, Tell Alfredo, move his ass. But also Alfredo would be like, no, I'm not doing it, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He has a dog.

[Monet X Change]

Every year, consistently, we are on Alfredo's. We're like on Alfredo's top podcast he listens to. So Alfredo is probably listening to this right now. Hi, Free.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you know, Free's coming to la.

[Monet X Change]

I, I, I know. I want to hang out with him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you, you, you can come. I'm going to Disney for the first time ever. I've never been to a Disney park in my life.

[Monet X Change]

When y' all going? Can I come?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, of course.

[Monet X Change]

What day? With my feet? I don't know. I have to see. I don't know if I'll be able to go.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll put you on a wheelchair.

[Monet X Change]

Like, soon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, soon. I'll put you in a wheelchair. Me and Fre take there. Me and Free are both big ladies. We'll push you around.

[Monet X Change]

Bob, you will not want to push me around in a wheelchair all day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would put you in a wheelchair. Me and Free could take turns, Bob.

[Monet X Change]

I am heavy around Disney.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We'll take turns. And they probably have, they probably have. And I bet a dollar they have motor ride scooters. I bet, bet they have them also. You could, you could rent one. You could rent a motorized scooter for a day.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm actually, my mom around. My mother is much smaller than you, but I used to bring my mom around in a wheelchair all the time.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, imagine your mom times that by five. That's, that's what you pushing around at the theme park all day, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Five, maybe three. But also, my mother was very small, to be fair. But yeah, but me and Freak could push around. But also, I bet they have motorized scooter. It would be very strange if they didn't have if, if, if Piggly Wiggly has motorized scooters, they probably have them at Disney World.

[Monet X Change]

I remember when I was on, when I went to South Carolina for the first time for the Spoleto festival.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Does Disney have motorized scooters?

[Jacob]

Go ahead.

[Monet X Change]

For the Splitto music festival in college and going down to South Carolina for the first time, there were two things I remember about that going down, because it was my first time in the South. Well, besides that one year I lived in Atlanta, but I was in high school. Anyway, as an adult, I mean, in elementary school, going to. Have you ever eaten at the Kicking Chicken? It's a chain only in South. I don't know if you've ever been to South Carolina. It's a chain of restaurant only in South Carolina called the Kicking Chicken. Have you ever eaten this food?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

The chicken there is so good. And they make this goddamn ranch sauce that has shredded Parmesan in it. But, like, not like the grated one, like, with, like, the little strips.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I would.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I would read. Jacob, it's too small. Can you read it out loud?

[Monet X Change]

Jacob? It's. It's. Yes, they do have it. And they are a rental price per day. $15 for manual, $60 for the electric one. So, Bob, can you rent it for me?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can afford it. You can swing it.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. So I want. I would love to go with y'.

[Jacob]

All.

[Monet X Change]

I would really be down to go. Um, so the Kicking Chicken, they have this. They have this amazing ranch, a seasoned ranch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why don't you just give them out? I mean, imagine if you got to Walmart and they were like, five dollars, bitch. Give me this motherfucking wheelchair. Give me this motherfucking motorized scooter. Like, it seems able to make you rent a motorized scooter. And the reason I'm saying is because, like, obviously people can. Like, the motorized scooters are not. Not necessarily people in wheelchairs, people with mobility issues. Because you're walking a lot, you're standing a lot. So whereas the amount of walking you would normally do in your house in Walmart, that's like times 10, at Disney is times 100. They should not be renting them out. They should be giving. They should give them out, in my opinion.

[Monet X Change]

Well, it's probably to people who don't really need it, because then if they were just free, people who probably didn't really need it were probably asked for it all the time. So when you're having people who don't really have mobility issues because they don't want to walk on a theme park all day, they're going to be taking them for people who do have mobility issues. So I think it's probably.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They didn't have a lot of them. They didn't have a lot of them. Like, people at Walmart aren't taking wheelchairs. I mean, I'm sure there are, but typically speaking of. Well, you. You Fucking take the handicap seat which everyone dragged you for.

[Monet X Change]

When I, when I was a little kid going to or not a little kid and like a bummy fucking annoying ass high school kid, I would go to the key food or the seat town and ride around in the little motorized thing. Like I would absolutely do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I used to always do it at Walmart all the time. Go get my, Go to the blood pressure, the blood pressure check thing every time and panic, panic. I'm trapped every time.

[Monet X Change]

It was a ranch and was it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, going to a piggly.

[Monet X Change]

Seeing and going to a Piggly Wiggly for the first time again as a northerner, I thought it was just. I never seen a Piggly Wig. I thought it was just something they made up in movies. Going to a piggly for the first time was such an interesting experience. It is like a supermarket, but it's like a country ass supermarket. It's fucking wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's a grocery store. It's a grocery store, not a supermarket.

[Monet X Change]

What's the difference in a supermarket and a grocery store?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Walmart is a supermarket. So they have like televisions and like, like Walmart you can buy, not just grow. There's a grocery store attached to like a clothing store attached to an electronic store, attached to a bank, attached to a nail salon, attached to a barber shop, attached to a gas station, attached to an eye doctor. That's a supermarket. Piggly Willy.

[Monet X Change]

Well, no, because Pat Mark Path Markets is a chain of supermarket in New York. Doesn't have all that. It's just you can't buy TVs, you can't buy grills. It's just food.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that a supermarket then?

[Monet X Change]

I mean they call it a supermarket.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob, what's the difference in a supermarket and a grocery store? And can you read it? Because I'm too far from the screen.

[Monet X Change]

The main difference between a grocery store and a supermarket is a selection of items available.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is what I just said.

[Monet X Change]

Grocery stores focus on food, food and drinks with a small selection of household items. They typically carry 10,000 to 15,000 stock keeping units. Oh, is that what Skews stands for stock keep? Did you know that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Stock keeping units also. Did you know that? Do you know what troll is?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A.

[Monet X Change]

What troll is from? Like when you say an Internet troll.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like little monsters? Wait, what?

[Monet X Change]

No, like no, like an Internet troll. Do you get. Do you know what troll is from

[Bob the Drag Queen]

like someone who's like trolling on the Internet? No, what's it from? I thought this. They're, they're like little monster they're annoying people.

[Monet X Change]

No, they're uncontrollable.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, interesting, right?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. And in a supermarket.

[Jacob]

Where'd you hear that?

[Monet X Change]

I heard it on the View.

[Jacob]

Sister, I have doubt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What the is this?

[Monet X Change]

Where is that from?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sister, it's from Doubt. It's. It's. It's Meryl Streep's big line. I mean, sh. Spoiler alert. But it's Mel. You find out that Meryl Streep is actually a nun who doesn't really believe in God. At the very end, she's like, sister, I have doubt.

[Monet X Change]

And then a supermarket have a larger selection of items, including food, household goods, clothing, and pharmacy items. They have long aisles, sprawling floor plans. So. Yeah, so I guess so I guess if you have a. So a grocery store doesn't have like the far. Like the, The. The.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The electronics, the clothes, the pharmacy, all that stuff.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I guess

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think Path Market is some Path.

[Monet X Change]

Mark has a pharmacy in it. It has a pharmacy in it. Yeah. So. Yeah. Oh. So the grocery store, I guess in la, it will be Ralph's. In New York, it will be seatown. Seatown. Because they got the UT chips. Now, I don't know why UTS is not widely available, but UTZ chips are the best chips. And I love.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is a northeast thing for sure. Utz is a northeast thing. Down I. In Georgia, my favorite grocery store was Kroger, which I don't think Kroger exists anymore. Or at least the one in Clayton county doesn't exist anymore. There's probably still Kroger somewhere. But there was. The one that I used to go to is closed. I also like Ingles, but Kroger was great. And, and in. In. In la, I like Ralph's, which is not high end, but I just think Ralph is such an is. I just like that. I like Ralph's. I really like that grocery store.

[Monet X Change]

I do know the fried chicken at Ralph's. Nobody's touching the fried chicken. Then Ralph's, bitch. I don't care where you can go to Roscoe's. The fried chicken at Ralph's is so good. It's very good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. In the south, the Walmarts have pretty good fried chicken. As far as grocery store fried chicken goes, you have a favorite grocery store, Rotisserie chicken.

[Monet X Change]

What happened?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you have a favorite grocery store? Rotisserie chicken?

[Monet X Change]

My rotisserie chicken. For some reason I want that to feel a little more organic, so I like to go with Whole Foods for my rotisserie chicken.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To be honest, they all kind of taste the same. Rotisserie chicken is kind of like. Even when they're like, this was lemon pepper. I'm like, is it. Is it lemon pepper? And then I'll buy a whole roast history chicken and be like, I'm about to eat this. And I'm like, yo, that's a lot of food.

[Monet X Change]

I was just about to say that, Bob. I don't know what. Like, I would never. Cause a whole chicken has two breasts, two thighs, two drumsticks, two wings. I will eat a whole rotisserie chicken. But if I would. But I would never buy eight pieces of chicken from Popeyes or KFC and eat it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To be clear, a chicken doesn't have two breasts. Like, it's a. It's a chicken breast. They're not like individual titties. It is a chicken breast.

[Monet X Change]

But a whole. A whole chicken has two.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, baby, when you buy a chicken breast, that's the whole breast. If you get one chicken breast, that's the whole breast. Bob.

[Monet X Change]

No, if you take a rotisserie chicken and you cut it in half, you get two breasts. That's how it works.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that how that works?

[Monet X Change]

Yes. I've done it several times. I. I would get a whole chicken, I'll cut it in half, and you get two breasts.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What in the St. Lucia is.

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What in the St. Lucia. You go to the yard, grab a chicken, pluck it, rip it in half, and feed it to. What's it y. What's your cat? Your dog's name? That dog that ate your cat. What's her name? Egyptian. What's her name? Cleopatra.

[Monet X Change]

Cleopatra. Cleopatra.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What kind of dog was Cleopatra, in fact. Tell me after the break. Tell me after the break. Tell me after the break. Okay, Close your eyes.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Exhale.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Feel your body relax, and let go

[Monet X Change]

of whatever you're carrying today.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

And breathe.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

because it's so easy to use.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like I can't stop. I'm addicted. Start your free [e-mail].

[Monet X Change]

i don't know what breach. I think Cleopatra was a mutt. I couldn't tell you. I couldn't tell you what Bri Chi was. It was like a mix of things. St. Lucia is one of those countries. There's a lot of dogs. Dogs running around all the time, everywhere.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like you villainize Cleopatra and I feel like she's a victim of this too. Even though she ate your cat. She also was a victim of this too.

[Monet X Change]

She's a victim by eating someone's cat. But she's a victim. I victimized. I just told you the story. You victimized her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, she did what dogs do. And y' all act. Patrick, they attack things. Yeah, she did what dogs do. So when they attack. When a bear attacks a person in the woods, the bear is just doing what bears do.

[Jacob]

I care.

[Monet X Change]

A bear is a wild animal. This is a domesticated dog. Not a wild animal in the woods.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was she domesticated?

[Monet X Change]

It wasn't my dog. It was Ma's dog.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honestly, Cleopatra's an icon. We stand with Cleopatra. You know we were talking earlier about. About you being a spokesperson for insurance companies, but I don't think you want to be in that business because baby, working for insurance companies is not the T right now. You do not want to go public if you are a CEO or a high up at any insurance company. But you might not want to tell them you work at the call center.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah. I mean no one, no one is. No one is showing up at Flo's house and popping and six shots in her back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So as you all know, it is massive, massive news this week. This a CEO for United Healthcare was. Was murdered in cold blood in daylight. Brian Thompson was we. There is footage of. Of him walking up to his hotel for his conference. A man walks up behind him, a Jake Gyllenhaal look alike walks up behind. Allegedly walks up behind him, pulls out a pistol with a silence that is scary. Seeing someone hold a pistol is scary when there's a silencer on. I'm like, you are literally an assassin.

[Monet X Change]

Double O7.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He pulled it out, popped him in the. Shot him in the back. He went to the ground, he shot him in the leg. And then he shot a third bullet, but it didn't hit him. And then he Just fucking walked away. Got on a bike, also rode to the park. How good of a.

[Monet X Change]

Of a hitman you are if you. If you shoot and you miss when. When the target is dead.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He didn't miss, bitch. He's dead. He did not miss.

[Monet X Change]

No, the third. The third one. The one. The one that. The last one he shot. He fired and missed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I feel like. I don't know if he missed, but I feel like he. He had to get those three bullets out because they had messages written on them.

[Monet X Change]

Defend, deny, denounce, depose, depose. Yeah, it's. It's a pretty. And like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But

[Monet X Change]

the thing about that is, like. Like, I guess when you do. When you kill someone like that, you're doing it more so for the message than to actually affect change. Because when you kill that person, the next person in line or the next whoever is coming up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, not necessarily so. Blue Cross Blue Shield released a policy that would. That would restrict anesthesia. You. Anesthesia. Not anesthesia. Anesthesia use, baby.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Once they. Once they announced that people found the CEO and was like, kim, Kim, you want to do that? Kim? Kim, Are you sure, Kim? I just want to ask again. Are you sure that's the stance you want to take, baby? They were like, we were just kidding. They were like, we were just kidding. Y' all can have all the anesthesia you want. That was a joke we told Early. Early April Fools.

[Monet X Change]

We. We.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We. We were kidding. You can have anesthesia now. So maybe. So does it affect change, which is egregious.

[Monet X Change]

What I was talking about is that they were. They were passing this rule that, like, let's say you had to have brain surgery and your surgery was six hours, but the limit of anesthesia you could have was only four hours. At four hours, they will cut your anesthesia off. And so I guess what were you supposed to do for the other two weeks?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You start paying after a certain hour. Like, after a certain hour, you start paying.

[Monet X Change]

Well, when I say cut it off, like, yes, unless you. Unless you start. Unless you, like, you sign off on paying. Like, in theory, which I don't think legally they could do. Like, you kind of, like, have to pay for more because it seems crazy that you could opt to not pay for it, then just stop anesthesia, and they just. You just start. Feel like that sounds crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, they. I mean, I don't think the Hippocratic oath would allow a doctor to. Jacob, can you Google how much anesthesia costs? I don't think the Hippocratic oath allows doctors to do that, that. That doesn't sound.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. And that shit is expensive getting general anesthesia added to your surgery. Because I had a few surgery at this point. Bitch, it'd be like $4,000. More like anesthesia is expensive. That shit is fucking expensive.

[Jacob]

Is wait, 300 to $500 per hour.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Does anesthesia. Anesthesia. Wait, wait. I'm a little confused because you were awake, so you weren't under anesthesia, were you?

[Monet X Change]

I was in the local anesthesia, so I didn't pay for it for my feet, but.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you're in general anesthesia makes you go to sleep.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And local anesthesia. You're awake. You're awake for that.

[Jacob]

Local is always a little bit more expensive.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So would. So would novocaine be considered a local anesthesia? Can you Google that, Jacob?

[Monet X Change]

I think so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've had a lot of dental work done, and I've never. Well, that's not true. I was asleep for my wisdom teeth. Everything else I have been. I've been looking Dr. Will just in his eyes, making direct eye contact while he rips my gums to shreds. Looking him. Looking him dead in his eyes, like.

[Jacob]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Eyes to eye contact with a man who is rip. Cutting my gums up, zipping them, filing my teeth down.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah. Novocaine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I think novocaine is local. I think it would count as local because not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is.

[Jacob]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. You're not actually on Novocaine. It's actually lidocaine. They don't really use novocaine anymore. Novocaine is really weak. So it's actually like. Is the laughing gas that's general? No, I didn't get laughing gas.

[Monet X Change]

The one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've never used it. I've never used it, but I want to then.

[Monet X Change]

That seem fun?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it seems scary to me. It sounds like a relapse and I don't want to do it.

[Jacob]

I see there are three different types. There's also regional. There's local, which is like right at the thing. And then regional, which is like an epidural that. That is like half of your body, like a full region of your body.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And local drag. Regional drag.

[Jacob]

Oh, actually, no. That's about 200 to 400. So, yeah, General fully going under is the most expensive. 300 to 500.

[Monet X Change]

And allegedly, you know, I don't know. This is true. Allegedly. Like, that's what like some celebrities do when they're getting like big tattoo pieces. They just go into general so they don't have to like, feel the pain.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Someone do that. But they were saying that you shouldn't be doing that. I saw a thing on. On. I'm on tattoo Reddit, and I don't know how many of my tattoo read it because I don't. I mean, I have some tattoos, but I haven't had a tattoo in, like, four years now. Maybe. I don't know, maybe not that long. But anyway, the point. The point is there was some guy who got his entire back done, and he went under general for it, and they were like, you should not do this. Like, there's a reason why your body stop. There's a reason why tattoo artists stop doing tattoos. At a certain point, it's not just because it hurts. It's also because, like, your body needs to heal. Your body can't heal too many. It will. It will shock you. Your body will be shocked trying to heal this giant back piece that happened to that, that.

[Monet X Change]

That one artist, I don't know her name, but she got her whole leg. She got like, her whole leg from her ankle up all the way to her, like, her hip. And she had to, like, end up going to the hospital because her body went. When it went into shock, it was too much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But, I mean, so the public. The public reaction to this assassination has been honestly, in my opinion, quite justified. Like, yeah, someone died. That's very sad. Someone's dead. That is very, very sad. But do you know how many people have died because of the actions of this health care company? Let me tell you right now, I am still. Y'. All. My house burned down in. On January 10th. As of today, it is December 8th. I am still fighting my insurance company. This is. This is. This is. No one died in this house fire. You know what I mean? No one died in this house fire. These insurance companies do not give a fuck about. They don't. I'm telling you, money. They don't care if you have lost everything. When my family lost everything, they made me basically beg, please do homework, go. Like, the whole thing about interest. I'm like, the point is, I was paying insurance on the off chance that my. That something would happen in my home on the off chance or that I would need something fixed around my home. And I paid. I did my side, and I wasn't allowed to miss one payment, by the way. And I did not miss one payment. And if I would have, y' all would have came down on me. I would have lost my coverage. And then something did happen, and y' all acted like I was asking for something that you did not agree to. You know, you see what I'm saying?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, yes, it is very sad that this person died. But look at how many people have died because of what these insurance companies are doing. And not just dying with people who are like living in extreme, extreme debt. Someone, someone online was like, someone lost their father, someone lost a husband, someone lost an uncle. Yes, there's probably been someone else who lost all those things because of an insurance company. Literally one person lost a father, an uncle, a son, a cousin because of all the stuff these insurance companies are doing, lost their home. Did you know 60 over 60% of bankruptcies are because of medical bills? Over 60% of bankruptcies in America are because of medical bills.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but I think, but I do think that these are, these, these insurance companies are highly corrupt. I think that medical debt is, it is like, it is fucking up a lot of people's lives in the country. But killing a CEO of a medical, of a medical company does not. That's fixing a sentiment of the problem. Like, the problem is these, is our government and how we have allowed these people and these companies to operate this way, how we have allowed them to mark up pharmaceuticals and drugs exponentially in a way that it should not be. So I don't think killing these CEOs is a solution. The problem is electing people and try to fix our government so that they tackle these problems. And again, I don't know what level of our government tackles that. I think that's more of a federal. I don't know if that's the, I don't know who is responsible for that. But these people, they lobby in our government and they buy these politicians so that they pass legislation and law so they can keep operating in this lawless way. And if we just start this precedent where we're murdering CEOs of these companies, we're ushering an era of lawlessness and chaos in our society. And I don't think that's a solution to fix the problem.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To be clear, I did not say that killing the CEOs is justified. I said the reaction to the murder is justified. I think that people reaction being like, well, a sympathy is out of network.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I saw that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And deductibles. Like, I think that the re. I did not say the, that, that the, that the, the killing is the way to go. But I think that the reaction to it is in my opinion is quite justified because, you know, it's not justified the way that they are treating their clients, the way they're treating their, the insured, the way they're treating people who are paying. Health insurance is so expensive. And by the way, you have to have it. If you don't have insurance, you will be charged for not having insurance. And there's only like a.2. A month and a half, two months where you can sign up for it. So if you don't sign up for it in this little chunk of time, this little chunk of time, you are now uninsured. And you have to pay a fee for being uninsured. And then you have to pay, heaven forbid you, you have to do anything that is, that should, that should not be that expensive. You know what I mean? Heaven, you get a flu, you, you, you break a leg, you, you know, have to go to the doctor, you get pregnant. That shit is expensive. They are ruining these lives. So I'm not saying that everyone should be out there, but I'm saying, like, why does it. I don't think it's fair that not. I don't think it's fair that people are like, oh my God, their lives. Didn't nobody care about their lives and they were happening.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, I don't, I don't really have reverence for dead folk. Like, I'm not these. One of people. Like, you know, if, you know, never

[Bob the Drag Queen]

speak ill of the dead.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I'm not, I'm not one of those. So in that regard, I don't care. But I think that that same energy of that same energy needs to be given to our fucking politicians because they are the ones letting this behavior happen. Like, and again, I don't know how we affect change. Like, we have been complaining about these lobbies and for. Since I've been conscious of politics in my adult life, we have been talking about it and there seems to be no change. Like, there's no politician. I mean, I've heard it, I've heard a lot of talk from like super, super, super, super progressive people like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren at some point talking about tackling these pharmaceuticals and these insurance companies. And now we're electing Dr. Oz to be. He is, he is on, on, on the docket to be the minister or whatever the fuck his title is that he's handling Medicaid and Medicare and you know, and Trump wants to get rid of Obamacare, the Affordable Care act, and again, so. But I don't really see anyone really like having a platform of talking about what you're talking about now to manage these health insurance companies to make them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think that now, I think the conversation now is bigger than it's ever been. And I'm not saying go out and kill CEOs. That's not what I'm advocating for. But someone did do it. And now look how big this conversation is. In fact, I'll tell you more of my thoughts when I come back. A burst pipe, a dead water heater, the AC calling it quits. Who do you call? HomeServe is an easy way to handle unexpected home repairs with plans covering stuff basic homeowners insurance usually won't. Instead of scrambling for a contractor, you make one call to get the repair process started. Join the millions of customers who trust HomeServe right now. Go to HomeServe.com podcast for 50% less your first year. That's HomeServe.com podcast. Savings compared to renewal Price void in Florida.

[Jacob]

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[Monet X Change]

unlimited Premium Wireless for $15 a month is back.

[Jacob]

So I think thought it would be fun if we made $15 bills. But it turns out that's very illegal. So there goes my big idea for the commercial. Give it a [e-mail] switch upfront payment

[Narrator/Advertiser]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have never seen an insurance company roll back an unpopular policy like Blue Cross Blue Shield did. Ever. Yeah, it probably. I'm not saying it hasn't happened.

[Monet X Change]

It has. I'm not conscious of it. If it has happened, I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But that is swift, baby. It was so the public outcry was swift. How fast they were like. You sure you want to do that, Cam? You sure? I'm gonna. I'm gonna give you one more chance to re. Rethink your position here, Kim. And she rethought it. And also the. The first of all, I do not think the cops are looking for him because cops are blue collar workers.

[Monet X Change]

You don't think?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no. New York City is the most filmed there is. Practically. Practically nowhere you can go in New York City without being filmed. Apparently. Apparently. Except for Central park, apparently. But at some point you got to leave Central park, baby. They can track you no matter where you are. You are always being filmed at Central Park. There's only one footage from one angle with no sound. And then we have a Picture.

[Monet X Change]

They put out another one like earlier today of him like a taxi cab without his, with mask off and everything.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I saw nothing. I'm playing. And also when they posted his face, people have been fawning over him because he's quite handsome. He kind of looks like Jake Gyllenhaal apparently. But online, when you see, looks like Ros. When you see the comments, people are like, oh my God, this is just a blank picture. Why do they post a blank picture with nothing on it? Everyone. I didn't see nothing. And cops are blue collar workers. They don't make that much money. Cops aren't. Cops aren't, aren't the elite. Cops aren't the wealthy. I don't think, I honestly don't think they're looking like they, like they're not, they're not, they're not doing that. He's not.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean he didn't escape through the wood, through the backwoods of Shreveport, Louisiana or, or Baton Rouge or, or, or, you know, Andalucia, Alabama. He was in New York York City. He was basically filmed every second until he went to Central park and probably a few seconds in Central park and then he was being filmed when he got out of Central park.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I mean? But do you have this man?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They have this man's face and no one's like, and everyone's like, I ain't never. Not a single, they have his face and not a single person has come for everyone's like, I have never seen this man in my life. Would you believe this man knows no people? No one knows him. No one. Not a single person in the world. He don't have no family, he don't have children, he don't have a wife, he don't have parents, he didn't go to school. No one knows this man because they're not looking for him. Because I think they sympathize with the, with the people. In my humble opinion.

[Monet X Change]

And of course this. No interaction in the world in America would be short of racism because the first early reports talking about he is some, he's, he looked like a light skinned man, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Basically saying that he's a person of color. I'm like, no, why do you have to be a person? Why light skinned this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think that if I had to guess, if I had to guess, I think that Jacob, do you know, I mean you're dating me, so you probably know. But like, do you know that light skinned is not a term that people use for white people?

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you know that was the question, like. Yeah, I don't think he was in. I don't think that cop was insinuating that he was black. I don't know that. Do white people know that light skin is not a term used for people who aren't black? Like light skin is a term, a

[Jacob]

white person you would, like, you would say, oh, no, she's really pale.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, light skin.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I thought, I mean, I, when I heard light skin, I was like, light skin. He's not light skinned. He, he's white. But maybe he was saying like, he's not brown, he's not black. He is of a pale, he's either like a pale Asian or, or, or, or a pale white person or, or white. Like I think he was saying, like he's not brown.

[Monet X Change]

No, I think they were saying, I think when they said he was light skinned, they, they were, they were meaning he looked, they were saying he looks like a, a light skinned black person.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think they were because there was a picture of him and everyone's like, this man, he's not black. No one thinks this man is black. There has not been a single angle. I, in my humble opinion, I don't think. No, but he was, he was white in the picture when he, when he raised the gun. He was white there too. No one's ever thought, I don't think anyone has ever thought this man was black. Now, I'm not defending the cops, but I don't think this cop knows what light skin means because he's like, he's light skinned.

[Monet X Change]

I think, I think if you are a cop living in New York City with all these people of color, you know what light skin means? You know, light skin means black person. I don't, I, if, if this is

[Bob the Drag Queen]

a cop in Montana, you're black, but

[Monet X Change]

no but live in New York City. If, if, if this was a cop in Montana, then maybe I'll believe that. But you are a cop from New York City. You know, light skinned, mean, black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I don't know what he meant, but everyone knows, everyone knows he's not black. No one thinks he's. No one has ever thought he was black. There has never been a moment in this conversation. And also, but even before his face came out, no one ever thought he was black. Ever. He's. This has never been part of the conversation.

[Monet X Change]

And also, Bob, it wasn't just one cop. This was. This one cop doesn't make the call to do this. A system of people saw this thing and they said, oh yeah, light skin. I don't think there's no way in whatever police department or whatever, whatever that it, it went through so many eyes and ears and they didn't know that light skin means black. Like light skin does.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like I don't know what they meant, but I don't think anyone thinks this man is black. I don't think anyone has any. Ever thought this man was black and he's not black. And everyone knows that. Everyone had a picture like they had a picture of a white man talking, some light skin. What is that? What would that. What could that pos. If you have a picture of a white man and you like light skin, why would anyone think that he's black

[Monet X Change]

or mixed or saying that this is, this person has black in them, that's why they're light skinned?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I don't know, I can't speak for their thought, but what I'm saying is everyone knows he's not black. Literally everyone knows that. No one thinks this man is black and he's not black. So also black people don't be assassins like that. That's not a black thing. I mean, they're having fun.

[Monet X Change]

There was that guy, that guy, the D.C. guy. D.C. guy?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, the D.C. sniper. There were two of them actually.

[Monet X Change]

The D.C. sniper. There was a movie about the D.C. sniper. I heard it was good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've not seen it. America is crazy, yo.

[Monet X Change]

This country, we be out here murdering presidents assassin presence all the time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We, we not all the time. I think our country probably assassinates world leaders less than a lot of other countries bitch.

[Monet X Change]

At the turn of the century though, we was, we was assassinating niggas left, right and center.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like when was our last presidential assassination?

[Monet X Change]

And did we have like four or five of them? Get jfk. But before that there were Abraham Lincoln. There were three before him. No, there were two in the middle of, in the middle of Lincoln and Kennedy. They're like two or three in there, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob, who are all the assassinated presidents? Lincoln. Jfk. Who else been assassinated? President Wise.

[Monet X Change]

Look it up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Andy.

[Jacob]

Four sitting presidents have been assassinated. Abraham Lincoln in 1865, James A. Garfield in 1881, William McKinley in 1901, and John F. Kennedy in 1963.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, there were two in between them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But almost every president has had assassination attempts. Did you know that?

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I believe it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was looking into this video about the security they have. They have like a thing in the presidential motorcade that disables detonation devices. Like you can't, you cannot detonate a bomb underneath the President's car. It's like literally impossible.

[Monet X Change]

Like, is it like it sends out some radio frequency that stops it or something?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know.

[Jacob]

Yeah, it's like a wireless jammer. I mean, they don't. They haven't released the specifics of it. They. They try to keep it light. So you don't know. But.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, yeah, you literally cannot detonate a bomb anywhere around the President because of some technology they have that will stop your. The communication or the signal, their Bluetooth or whatever the fuck people are using these days. I don't know what, I don't know what, what, what bomb people are using these days, but you. You literally cannot do it. Isn't that crazy?

[Monet X Change]

I mean, no, I mean, in 2024, 2025, almost, honestly, like, I believe that. You know what I mean? Like, I'd be saying, like, shit be going down. I'm like, how do we not have more, like, technology for shit like that? Oh, my God, look at the door for Obama's car. It's like an armored car. It's like a door.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The doors are completely bulletproof. You also have no clue what car the President's in. There are several cars. They're all identical. You don't know which one the President's in, allegedly. Sometimes the president isn't even in the motorcade.

[Monet X Change]

Would you. Would you ever want to live, like. Would you ever want to live like that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No money. I don't even. I don't even want to be more famous than I am right now. This is a lot for me.

[Monet X Change]

There's a lot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've been around a few very famous people, and that is not the lifestyle for me. I know you said you want to be around a famous. I would never want that in a million years. It's too much.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I think it's complicated. Like, the level of. For the things that I wanna do, I think it requires more fame, right? If I want, like, my music, more people to hear my music, and my music to be bigger, it just requires that, like, more airs on it means more fame, and more eyes on it means more fame. Like, it's just a symptom of the thing that I want to happen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, not necessarily. There are some people who can just like, walk around. Like, I think Bob Odenkirk could probably just walk around the world.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know who that even is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob Odenkirk is on. He's the star of Better Call Saul. He's a very famous actor. I bet that someone like Let me think of a slave.

[Jacob]

He's from Breaking Bad.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. But his big thing is Better Call Saul. But he's a pretty big actor, though. I bet someone like, like I've seen, like, I've seen Cheryl Underwood walking around the airport, just walking around by herself. I ran into her actually one time. She's like, hey, hey. Just walking around. Cheryl Underwood, she more famous than I am.

[Monet X Change]

But I'm talking about. I think, I feel like. I feel like, yes, it happens with actors. I feel like it's more like a music thing, right? Like, I think, like, music because I think music is a little more far reaching. Because if you are a big artist, you can be like people who are like, super big act like famous actors, like art. Like, is Meryl Streep as popular in Asia and Europe as she's in America? I don't know, but I know, you know, I don't know. Fucking SZA is, is huge in South America and in Europe and in Asia. Brianna, Rihanna, like Carrie Underwood. I think she's also super huge in Europe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I can sell tickets in South America. I think Meryl Streep is famous in South America. If I can sell out of theaters in South America, I think Meryl Streep is probably famous in South America.

[Monet X Change]

I'm just saying that me. I'm just saying. My point is that music is a little more far reaching that way. Like, like music, it transcends more than like, like, like regions, more than art, for sure. Big American artists be big in other places as opposed to just acting, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But to go back to the point, I would never. I don't, I don't have any desire to be that famous. I don't want to be crazy wealthy. I've never wanted to be like, I want to be a billionaire. Like, that doesn't. My motivation has never been money. Money. I'm not like, people who like, I got to get to the money. I've never been like a. I've never been a hustle culture type. If I'm hustling, it's because I love what I'm doing, not because I'm like, I got to get this money. You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

I've been getting to the money. You want to be a billionaire? Yeah, I want to be a billionaire. That's a complicated question. I think. No, I have, like, I have, like, no desires to want. I'm not like, oh, I'm out. I'm not out here working to try to want to become a billionaire. But if it happens, my Problem how successful I am with like touring and like, and like, and working really hard. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you know, like, I don't like, do people like the Taylor Swift.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No one becomes hard to be, right?

[Monet X Change]

Did Taylor Swift strive to be a Bill? Like, did she strive to be a billionaire? Or is she just. Is her music and her touring so successful that she's become a billionaire? You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it's a multitude of things, but I just want to be clear that no one becomes a billionaire because they're just working so hard. Working hard is not what makes billionaires. Exploitation is what makes billionaires.

[Monet X Change]

I'm talking about. I'm not saying that the only way to become a billionaire is by working hard. I'm not saying that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I'm saying I don't think that working hard has anything to do with becoming a billionaire. I think you can work hard, sure. But becoming a billionaire is a completely separate thing just from working hard.

[Monet X Change]

I think that. I think that. I think that hard work goes to becoming a billionaire. I don't think you cannot work hard and become a billionaire.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I, I think that you probably. I think you probably can. But it's about the exploitation that. What I'm saying is the hard work isn't part of what makes you a billionaire. The exploitation of other people, which by the way, all, all capitalism is exploitation. So even, even the mom and pop shop exploits their employees. You exploit their work. But the point, the question is, are you making it viable for them as well? But I'm saying is I don't think hard work is part of the factor what makes you a billionaire. You can work hard and become a billionaire, but you're not becoming a billionaire because you worked hard is what I'm saying.

[Monet X Change]

And say that again because I don't think I agree.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can work hard and be a billionaire, but the hard work is not what makes you a billionaire. Like, for example, if every billionaire.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I don't agree with that. I mean, yes, yes. I don't think so. I'm saying that. What about the hard work to become a billionaire? There is hard work and becoming a billionaire.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you think is the hard work that, what do you think specifically regards to hard work makes you a billionaire?

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I think it depends on what industry it is, right, to become a billionaire. Like how Taylor Swift has. I think that comes with hard work in music and working hard and touring and all that stuff. Like, I think that there are multiple things that contribute to working hard to become Successful billionaire in music. If you're becoming a successful Mark Zuckerberg, I don't fucking know. Like to be him. There was hard work in doing that, right? To creating the software, to doing a thing and doing a lot of stuff in computer and technology that I don't even, I can't even fathom. I'm not saying that, I'm not saying, I'm not saying that it only takes hard work to become a billionaire, but I'm saying to become a billionaire, it does take hard work.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And what I'm saying is the hard work actually has nothing to do with being a billionaire. They are literally two completely separate things. That's like saying, like, that's like saying having a job to be a billionaire you probably have to work somewhere. But it's not the job that makes you a billionaire. It is specifically the exploitation of labor to a degree that makes it impossible for the people beneath you to rise up. So Mark Zuckerberg's hard work, the stuff that Mark Zuckerberg did in college, that's not what made him a billionaire. That's not the stuff that made him a billionaire.

[Monet X Change]

But it is, Bob. It's part of it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, listen to me. It's, it's. That's not the thing that makes him a billionaire. Because there's lots of people who have, who, who come with hard work. Who's this yada yada have this stuff where Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk and, and the Coach Brothers and all people become billionaires is when they start the greed of buying up other businesses. It's not. Buying up another business is not hard work. It's just offering someone something they literally cannot say no to. It's purchasing other businesses. It is, it is cornering the market so no one else can get a foothold in possibly at all. That. That's not necessarily connected to hard work. You can be a billionaire and not work hard. And I don't think every billionaire is necessarily working hard. I don't think that that is part of the ingredient of what it takes to be a billionaire. But as long as you're willing to be really, you know, I think, I think one thing that you have to be to be a billionaire is cutthroat, completely relentless and a little bit cold hearted. I think you have, and that's what I disagree. Literally, I think you have to have those three things to be a billionaire.

[Monet X Change]

And that's what I disagree. I think that there is a, there is like, that's like, that's like saying that you can have. You can have a cherry pie without the flour or whatever it is to make a fucking crust. Like, it is part of the ingredients to make the thing. And I think hard work is part of the ingredients now are what. The other thing that you talked about, I think those are part of it too. But I don't think that you can get there without hard work. I just don't think so. Now, inheritance is a separate thing, right? If I'm a billionaire and I hand it down to my kid, did my kid necessarily have to work hard? That's a different conversation, different topic. But in order to become a billionaire, I do think hard work is part of the pie. To. To make that, to bake that, to create that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I think that's part of the illusion that they sell us, right? The illusion is that billionaires just work so hard. The illusion is like they were just. My God, the work they were doing was crazy. It. You wouldn't even believe the amount of work. And I feel like we've been. We've been fed this lie so many times that, that a lot of us believe it. And by the way, I think if someone believes it, that makes sense because we're told over and over and over again how hard these people are working. But when you look at. I was looking at the, the. The documentary for Vince McMahon on Netflix recently, and when wrestling started. Well, not wrestling started, but when Vincent man joined wrestling, it was. It was a regional anesthesia. Everyone had a reason. They were in there kind of unspoken reason, like you just. You don't do wrestling. If you are the New England guy. You would never do a wrestling match in Florida. You just don't do it. Kind of like gangs in their territories, you know what I mean? But Vince man was like, I'm gonna fucking do it. And then he did it. He did, he did. He did it. And then when he started making so much money, he just started buying up every other company. He just bought them all. And it's not that he worked so hard. He didn't work hard. He just started engaging in unethical business practices. He started. He started losing his ethics, or I don't know if he ever had them, but he lost the ethics of what they were doing in wrestling. And that's why he became a billionaire. Not because he was working harder than everyone else, but because he disengaged from ethics. And that's why he was able to become a billionaire, because he.

[Monet X Change]

But to get to that point, Bob, I think there is, there is, there is Hard work that you're missing in an equation. You're only seeing the small part of it that he went to buy all these things. But I think there are a lot of other hardworking factors that contributed to get into that state and that status to do that. And again I do agree with you, there is some corruption, there is greed there, all there all, all those things baked into that. But to get to the level, to be able to have the, the money and whatever to do that, I think that it. Hard work that comes into doing that. I was watching the Martha Stewart documentary the other day and this is a woman like to become a billionaire. Like you watch her story and this bitch has worked hard, right? She was, she was on the stock exchange. Yes. Martha Su. I don't know if she still is. Martha Su was, I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like I would have known that she was a billionaire. She may be. Go ahead, keep talking.

[Monet X Change]

I'm listening. Excuse me. And so she. There are a lot of factors that contributed into her becoming this, to becoming this homemaker and this super successful person. Hard work is a factor in that. It's not the only thing. But I think, I think also sometimes it's luck, sometimes it's, it's, there are other factors that come into that. And I'm not discrediting what you're saying that people don't have to do all that stuff to get to billionaire status. But hard work is often part of the equation. It is part of the equation.

[Jacob]

Was a billionaire at like the height of her thing but she's no longer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I don't know if this is, but I don't even know how true this is. Martha Stewart was once the first self made billionaire. That's not true. The first self made billionaire.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know if she was the first but in her documentary I'm just

[Bob the Drag Queen]

reading what this thing said that's, I'm like, is that true? Because I know there was, there was a black woman who was. What's her name? Hair lady.

[Monet X Change]

Madam. C.J. walker.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Madam J. Walker. But that was also by her, by, by her time standards. But now her network is about $400 million a measly. No, I'm kidding.

[Monet X Change]

She was, she was a billionaire.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

At some point we'll agree to disagree. I have another question for you. Do you think that you can be an ethical billionaire?

[Monet X Change]

Be an ethical billionaire? To be honest, I haven't really looked into that. If I had to think about it. I think that you do have to step on some toes and you do have to do some bad things to become a billionaire. So maybe not ethical but I have not really done a lot of mind work authority thoughts or dug into besides the Martha Stewart documentary and some other under social network things I've watched like that. But I don't. It seems like you that you probably have to do some, some bad I'd

[Bob the Drag Queen]

be interested in in your journey on billionaires and how if, if you decide decide to go on that road. Because I think if you look into it you'll come, you'll come back and be like actually it's not hard work but maybe you won't, maybe you'll be like no it is hard work or hard work is a component as a

[Monet X Change]

CEO, as a boss like you are, you're growing up. People are gonna not. They're always going to. But you know, I'm sure some people have worked for CM Rivre that have felt exploited. Some people worked for, for Bob the Dragon have felt exploited. Some people work for Monet Shane that have felt exploited. Like I don't think that to when you lead people like, you know, because some working relationships sour in a bad way. Some of them don't like it's hard to say when you're not going someone is not or what makes someone not feel exploited or they weren't paid fair or they didn't or their value wasn't received.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone's being exploited. It's part of how capitalism works. You can't be a profitable company if you're not exploiting your workers. You literally, you can't. It's just to what extent are you going to exploit them? That's just what it is.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So people have worked for us. I'm sure they felt that way. So by that definition to become the status we are or can we. Are we ethical in how we run our businesses? You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't say exploiting is not ethical. Everyone you have to.

[Monet X Change]

No, no, no, I'm saying, I'm talking about, I'm trying to talk about being a billionaire and just moving it to what we are now, right? To reach the level of success that we have. Have we been ethical the entire way? So like it's not just, it's not just unethical practices are reserved for billionaires to become a ten thousand heir, to become a fifty thousandaire, to become one hundred thousand there. Like are we, have we exploited people? Have people worked for us and felt exploited and feel like we have been unethical in the way they've been treated the answer might be yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, the short answer is everyone is exploited. So, yes, you cannot run a business without exploiting people. So, yes, we have exploited people. You have to exploit to be a profitable business. You just. Even if you're making one extra dollar, you have to exploit. So, yes, we've certainly exploited.

[Monet X Change]

People have to exploit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, you have to exploit people to have a profitable business. Exploiting is. It has a negative connotation. But if you are taking someone's work and then what they're giving you, you are charging more for it. So if, if you are. If I'm paying you $6 an hour to work, but I know for a fact that what you're working is actually worth $15 an hour, you're being exploited. If I'm paying you $20 an hour to work, but I know for a fact that what you're doing is actually worth $30 an hour, you're being exploited.

[Monet X Change]

But you Definition.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Say again?

[Monet X Change]

To make the definition of exploit. To make full use of and derive benefit from a resource.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. So you, you have to exploit. You have to exploit your workers. You literally have to. Meaning. So when I say make benefit from. If, if, if you're, if you're doing $20, if you're doing $50 an hour worth of work, but I'm only paying you $40 an hour, you're being exploited. And that's not a bad thing. That's not a bad thing. But if you are doing $50 an hour work and I'm paying you $10, that's a bad thing.

[Monet X Change]

And again, and some people may have felt like that. Some people, you may have agreed to a rate, whatever, and they're working for us, whatever, and they feel like, well, and they agreed to think that they've. That they agreed to be paid for. Both parties said, yes, this sounds great to me. But at the end of the day, they walk away feeling like they're being. It is unethical because what, they're not being paid their value or it's not fair to them, like, then we're not quote, unquote, ethical in how we're doing our business.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't really think that we have. I don't, I really don't think we have their problem. There have been times where our workers have exploited us. We've talked about that. There have been times where they, where they made more than we made, and we've had that conversation. So I really.

[Monet X Change]

But they're not exploiting us.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'm being, I was being facetious. Monetary but in reality, I genuinely don't think that we have that problem. I, I genuinely don't think that we have. That you and I have that problem. Now. There's a chance that we have employed a company who's exploiting people. So therefore, yes, we are taking part. Like, for example, I don't know. I, I do not know what they're paying people to make civil rivalry T shirts. Probably not a fair wage, but they're made stateside. So I don't know. Some of them may say side. I don't know. Actually. I don't even know where all the civil rights merch comes from. I'm assuming it's stateside because we ordered it and it comes pretty quickly.

[Monet X Change]

It was. It's from the States.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily. But so there's a chance that we have hired a company to do stuff for us and they are exploiting their workers in a way that the workers really, really don't like it. But I really don't think that any of our direct employees are just like I am.

[Monet X Change]

Our fans are not from the states. Our fans are not from the states. So if we produce these fans that we are selling for higher buy, blah,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Monet X Change]

And you look back, we are unethical in how we have run our business because we did not do our due diligence to see where the thing that it came from would be very, you know, and make sure that it's made, being made in an ethical way. So by, by that measure, by that metric, we're not ethical. We have now. We are. We are now an unethical company.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I don't think that our company is 100% ethical, but I also think it is practically impossible to want a 100 ethical company anywhere. Even like, for example, let's just say, for example, that we own a clothing business. And like, we make, like, for example, for House of Bob, all of those garments are made here in the United States. So they're made in Los Angeles by hand, which is why they cost as much they cost because someone, Each one is made in Los Angeles by someone being paid a fair wage. Now, that being said, the fabric, I don't know where the fabric's made. I went down to. I went down to the garment district myself and grabbed that fabric myself. I didn't ask them where was this made. So, no, it's not 100 ethical because I don't know where the fabric was made at. You see what I'm saying? So I don't think that the goal is necessary. Like, like when it comes to, like your carbon footprint, the goal is not to have a carbon footprint of zero. The goal is to minimize your carbon footprint because you're going to have to get on a plane, you're going to have to get in a car, you're going to have to eat food, you have to turn your lights on, you're going to have to, you know, use air conditioning, that kind of stuff.

[Monet X Change]

So I guess the question, where do you, where do you draw the line of, of, of, of ethics? Like who draws that line? Who decides whether the company is ethical or not?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You draw it in. Billionaire. Billionaire.

[Monet X Change]

So, so a 999 millionaire is, is ethical. But once you get that threshold, that 1 million, that adds to it to become a billion, that means that you are now unethical.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, because what I'm saying is you can be unethical all the way up to a billionaire. You can be unethical all the way up there. What I'm saying is everyone on that side, everyone on that side is unethical. Everyone on the billion side is unethical. And there are also people on this side who are unethical too.

[Monet X Change]

But I'm saying. But where, but who decides that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you mean? Well, I mean, it's each person, Each person decided what's ethical for them. Each person decides that on their own terms. But what I'm saying is every single person on the billion side is unethical. And there are some people on this side who aren't, who are, who are also unethical as well. But I don't think there's anyone on that side who's ethical. Not even one.

[Monet X Change]

So when Martha Stewart was a billionaire, she was unethical. But when she now she's now, she's now worth 400 million. Now she is ethical.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's probably still unethical. Again, there are unethical people on this side too. But what I'm saying is everyone on that side is unethical. All of them.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so let's say you were ethical until you got to 999 million, right? You were ethical until that point.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You wouldn't be ethical that far.

[Monet X Change]

You wouldn't be a billionaire, you're not a millionaire.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yet again, there are unethical people on this side, but everyone on the other side is unethical. So if you.

[Monet X Change]

But you're not, But I'm saying you're not on the other side yet. You're not on the other side. You're on this side. And There are.

[Jacob]

There's a gray zone. He's saying there's a gray zone between 1 and $990,000 where there is a mix. There are people who are completely broken, unethical. But he's drawing the line, saying it becomes black and white, specifically here. And there is a gray zone that starts there and start. Goes.

[Monet X Change]

And what I'm saying, I'm the company. I am ethical. I am ethical. Ethical. Going climate all the way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I am ethical. You can't get that far and be ethical. You cannot. You can't make 999,000. You can't make $999,999,099 and be ethical. You can't do it. You can't.

[Monet X Change]

So is the line. 999 is the line 1 billion?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The line is based on what you're doing. Like the line is based on your ethics. The line is based on how you pay your workers, how you treat people. Do they have paid leave? Are they be. Do they get sick leave? Do they have maternity leave? That's where the line is. But I'm saying is, you can't be ethical and make it that far. You can't, because you would not.

[Monet X Change]

Which I understand. I understand. I'm just trying to find the line there. Because we're saying one billion is what.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It depends on what you're making. Right? So if you're, if you're making T shirts, you could probably become a millionaire and be ethical with T shirts. But you cannot become a billionaire and ethically sell T shirts because on. Because, by the way, you don't cross into unethical once you get to a billion dollars, you're unethical all the way up there on the journey, you are doing unethical stuff on the journey. It becomes unethical. But once you. But, but what I'm saying is everyone on that side is indeed unethical. Like, for example, here's, here's. Here's a. Here's an. Here's another thing I can say. It's probably fair to say that everyone who's over £400 is technically obese. Everyone, every single person over £400 is technically obese. That being said, there's someone who's over 200 pounds is obese, and there's someone over 200 pounds who's not obese. But there will come a point where it's. It's not great. There will come a point where it's not no longer gray.

[Monet X Change]

But that is a false equivalency because there Is. There is. There is a measure like. Like, there is. There is. It's like it's science. What causes obesity? There's not science.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sociology is a real thing. Ethics has. Has measures. I'm not a sociologist, I'm not a scientist, so I don't know that. I don't know the measure. But. But there are measures for it. There are bureaus, there are international laws, there are ethics lawyers. There. There's measures for it, for sure.

[Monet X Change]

I get that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but it's not. There's not. There's not. There's not a weight that determines if you are. There's not a weight number that determines if you are obese. There are. There are other factors that goes to that. Your height, your this and the other.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So that's what I'm saying, a percentage thing and stuff. But I'm saying is there is no. You can't be over £400 and not be obese. It's not possible. It's not possible. You literally can't do it. But you can be over 200 pounds and not be obese.

[Monet X Change]

No, we've seen. I mean, four, maybe four, maybe not 400 pounds, but I mean, that's like saying you can't be a thousand pounds. I mean, exactly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's how absurd a billion dollars is. That's the point. £400 is a pretty big number. A billion is even bigger. A billion is even crazier. It's even crazier.

[Monet X Change]

But what I'm saying is that 400 pounds, like the race, the percentage of people who are 400 pounds. I mean, I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would say the percentage of people over £400 is probably more than a percentage of people who are billionaires. I would venture to say. I don't know the numbers for sure. Probably.

[Monet X Change]

Probably there are more people who are

[Bob the Drag Queen]

£400 than other people who are £400 is like. I've met a few people who are over £400. I haven't met that many billionaires. I've maybe met one and didn't know it.

[Monet X Change]

You think you met people who are over £400?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know I've met people over 400. Eureka used to be £500. She said it on TV. Eureka.

[Monet X Change]

O' Hara was four, was £500.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what she said on TV. She said she was £500. I have definitely met multiple people who are over. Who were over £400.

[Monet X Change]

Multiple, you know, a few billionaires.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not a billionaire. Madonna's not a billionaire.

[Monet X Change]

No. The girl that you the girl that you fell in front of her and you tripped and you. And you spilled your hot chocolate on her dress.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was on that girl. I spilled it on my own garment, not on her. I spilled it on my garment, not hers. Let's be. Let's be. Oh, to quote Obama,

[Jacob]

there are some tech billionaires there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. So y'. All. All the other people.

[Monet X Change]

Bob talking about, he over there schmoozing over there, knocking drinks with and kicking. Those are all Bob's contemporaries. He hanging out.

[Jacob]

To be fully honest, we spent that entire party just talking to Fortune Feimster.

[Monet X Change]

But, yes, likely story.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also likely story. Also, to be fair, I also talk to criminals who are. Who are. Who are unethical. I have. I have spent time around. I have spent times around a lot of people who do things that I don't necessarily agree with. That does not mean that I'm like, oh, you're great for what you do. But, yes, I do socialize with people.

[Monet X Change]

My grandmother, to quote my grandmother, if you wet the sponge, chances are you wet too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I didn't wet their sponge. I didn't make them. I mean, I'm sure. Actually, I have contributed to Billionaire because I have an Amazon prime account. So, yeah, I have contributed. So we're all.

[Jacob]

We're all.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're all Wedding Jeff Bezos.

[Monet X Change]

I don't have an Amazon prime account.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're lying. I've been at your house and watched Amazon Prime. You're lying. Continue.

[Monet X Change]

You've been at my house and watching Amazon Prime. What? You watch at my house? Amazon Prime.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We was watching. You and me, Andy. We're trying to find that show, whatever the show was.

[Monet X Change]

Mind your business.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And also, aren't you watching. Aren't you watching House of Villains? That you spoiled.

[Jacob]

House of Villains is on Peacock.

[Monet X Change]

I've just seen the clips online.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're lying.

[Monet X Change]

We know you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We also know your family are the billionaires of St. Lucia.

[Monet X Change]

Don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bitch. You're not slick. You're not slick. Jackie was running those cell phone towers. Were they ethical?

[Monet X Change]

I wonder if St. Lucia even has billionaires. I wonder.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, you wander. Okay. You really threw us off the scent there, Monet. You threw us off the trail with that one.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway, on that note, it's time to go, bitch. This is a great conversation. I love, I love. I love. I love sparring with you, talking with you about life.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We did spar, but to be funny, it wasn't a. It wasn't even match. And I'm playing.

[Monet X Change]

Here we go. Please,

[Jacob]

please.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You Beat me up. Because you beat me up. You gathered me.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway. Anyway,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

when I used to have long hair, I never actually did the tug, which I regret now.

[Monet X Change]

The tug.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did do the tug. I did the tug.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know what that means.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When you pull your hair up into a knot and then you pull it to make it tighter, you go. And then you go. Tighten it.

[Monet X Change]

That twist wig the other day when we went to Wicked, it was actually really cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You mean this one?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it looks really cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you. That's very kind of you, girl. Dang, dang, dang.

[Monet X Change]

No picture there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I got that wig done because Law Roach inspired me. And I can't find my phone, but I'll make sure I post it to the chat, otherwise it'll never work.

[Monet X Change]

You glue it, do you glue it?

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Glue.

[Monet X Change]

Glue it down?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I just put it on my head, walked out the door. Oh, Edward Scissorhands. By the way, Edward Scissorhands made that wig for me.

[Monet X Change]

I love Edward Scissorhands. What a great man.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, everyone. And this is the picture. This is Law Roach wearing the wig. Or is it? I don't think it was a wig. I think Law Roach had actually. I don't know where Law Roach at. Mine is a wig. I don't know what Lawroach has on. Has on. Has on his head, but mine is a wig, so there's that. All right, bye, everyone.