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Monét X Change
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Monét X Change
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Bob the Drag Queen
Like the cops said, if you like skin.
Monét X Change
This is literally the best podcast ever. Just leave us a little review. Tell us how much you love the show and it helps us out. Also on Spotify and do to Apple too. And Google Play, I guess. I mean, I'll listen to Google Play a podcast, but sure do it there too.
Bob the Drag Queen
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Monét X Change
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Bob the Drag Queen
So we need to say this episode was recorded a day before Luigi Mangione was arrested. So just keep that in mind.
Monét X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's all you want to say? You don't got to say. I mean, did you. Did you hear. You know he was arrested in a McDonald's?
Monét X Change
Yeah, he was in Pennsylvania with. Arrested with. With the guns and his manifesto and.
Bob the Drag Queen
Did you hear this?
Monét X Change
Something that's supposed to come out on the 11 that ain't come out.
Bob the Drag Queen
Did you hear this? Maybe they stopped it. Who knows? Did you hear this, though? The person who. Who reported him did not get the money.
Monét X Change
Yeah, I heard that.
Bob the Drag Queen
Because you're supposed to call the hotline and not911.
Monét X Change
That's crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
And also it said you can win up to $10,000, which, first of all, $10,000. Like, girl, those robots in the subway cost like $20,000.
Monét X Change
Yeah, it's. It's. It's so shady.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's enough.
Monét X Change
So that person got nothing for being a narcissist. No.
Bob the Drag Queen
And he probably. I. I can't imagine that that person going to keep their job. They got.
Monét X Change
I mean, they get to keep their job. Why would they get fired?
Bob the Drag Queen
They're going to get harassed. People are going to. People are mad. People do not want Luigi, man Joni caught. So it's going to bring that McDonald's nothing but fever.
Monét X Change
Oh, I. I think he meant, like, McDonald's would fire him.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think they will. Well, I don't even know.
Monét X Change
You can't fire someone like that. So, I mean, they. They have to give him. You can't just fire someone, like, for no. Reasonable. Like, that's not how that works.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes, you can. It's a right to work thing. You can just fire someone for any reason. You don't have to give a reason.
Monét X Change
No, it's a state by state. In New York State, you can. In New York state, that is the thing. Is a state by state thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let's see. Is Pennsylvania. Is. How do you spell Pennsylvania? Is Pennsylvania.
Monét X Change
Am I crooked curricula? I. Crooked curricula? I. Humback. Humpback. I.
Bob the Drag Queen
Is Pennsylvania a right to work state? Bd. Bd. No, it's not a right to work state.
Monét X Change
So. Yeah, so you can't do that.
Bob the Drag Queen
Right to work laws. It has right to work laws, though. But you have to be in a union. You have to guarantee that union membership and financial support are voluntary. Pennsylvania employment is at will, which means the employee can be dismissed at any time. So, yeah, you can be dismissed. You can be. You can be dismissed at any time. So. Yeah. And they don't have to give you a reason. Also, there's a photo of Luigi Mangione with his pants soiled that the police took a photo of. And I also noticed a lot of the footage they have of him coming out of his car. The sound is silence. And I suspect it's because people are actually cheering for Luigi and they don't want you to know that.
Monét X Change
Wait, he, like, he, he pissed. He peed himself.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, they, the police took a photo of him with his pants soiled and posted it on the Internet. Or leaked.
Monét X Change
That's so crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. And of course, there's been a lot of support because Luigi is very handsome. He is. You know what? Well, it's too late now, but my Luigi shirt came in. It might be too much to show. Should I show it to you?
Monét X Change
No, you show it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Is this, Is this too much to wear in public?
Monét X Change
Yeah, that's, that's a lot.
Bob the Drag Queen
Why?
Monét X Change
I think it's a lot.
Bob the Drag Queen
You never had a picture with. That's a shirt that they saw at Walmart of me holding a gun.
Monét X Change
Of you holding a gun at Target of you?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monét X Change
Oh, your little. From your. The water gun thing or the thing from your shoe.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Me holding a gun.
Monét X Change
Yeah. But I mean, yours is not depicting a murdering of someone.
Bob the Drag Queen
It was a. I murdered the competition. Kimchi found dead. Naomi found dead. Wow. Yeah. Derek Berry found dead.
Monét X Change
Wow. Dax. Dax. Exclamation point.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Robbie Turner's Uber driver found dead. Actually not. I can't actually not. He didn't even exist. Actually didn't even exist. Anyway, you want to do a podcast?
Monét X Change
Yeah, let's do it.
Bob the Drag Queen
My name is Bob the Drag Queen.
Monét X Change
And I'm Mona X Change.
Bob the Drag Queen
And this is sibling rivalry. On this week's episode, we talk about the ethics of being a billionaire, we.
Monét X Change
Talk about healthcare, and we find out.
Bob the Drag Queen
What made Monet say this.
Monét X Change
She had to, like, end up going to the hospital because her body went into shock. And we find out what made Bob.
Bob the Drag Queen
Say this, But I don't think you want to be in that business. Other day, me and Monae were watching Wicked. I, I, I didn't know this, Mon. One of Mon's dreams is to be like a James Earl Jonesy, Morgan Freeman, Jane lynch, voiceover type.
Monét X Change
Jane lynch is a voiceover person like Jane lynch from Glee.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. So Jane Lynch's big break was. So James Earl Jones used to do all the voiceovers for the army. But around Desert Storm they really wanted to more women to join the army because there were not enough women in the army. They just wanted more women. They were like, we need a feminine voice. And Jane lynch was like, that was the gig that changed my life. That was the first gig I had where I was like, I've been set since this gig. So Jane lynch was the army recruitment voice for women in the late 80s, early 90s.
Monét X Change
Famously voice acting work, like voiceover work does not pay. It does not always pay that well. Like when you do like a voiceover thing, it's not always as lucrative as other things. Like this is standard. Everyone knows this. So how much voiceover work was she doing for the army that she was like, this set me up for the rest of my life. I'd have to do anything else.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I reckon enough. And I mean it probably pays good money because it's the government and it was the army and they have money also.
Monét X Change
Why do you know that? Why do you know that the government needed more people for Desert Storm? You'd be doing random weird shit.
Bob the Drag Queen
The interview that I saw, she somehow she. I was. I was in a Jane Lynch YouTube spiral and they. She was talking about how she. She was talking about this gig, like the gig that set her up for life where she was. She has not had to worry since that gig.
Monét X Change
Well, can I get one of them?
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you think you'd want a career as one of those spokespeople like a flow or Jake from State Farm?
Monét X Change
My two biggest. Okay, these are my biggest dreams. Something I always wanted. I would love a Flow from State, from progressive kind of thing. Would love that. Or I would love to host a game show. Like I watched. I watch every episode of Chopped. I would love to be Ted, the host of chopped. They're like 51 seasons in and he does his dis show. I would love to like host a game show. Like fucking what, Michael Shanda for Pyramid or fucking Steve Harvey Family Feud? I would love to host a game show. I just love games. I would love to. It's just all about personality and being able to read. Yeah, I would love to.
Bob the Drag Queen
That sounds. I think you. I think you'd be really good at. And you're, you're great with making people. You host game. You literally host game nights at your house for. For. For at cost. So yeah, I'm sure if you're getting paid for it, it'd be really great.
Monét X Change
Is There like a TV version of a. No, Me. We can make. That will be, like, good for, like, tv. You know what I mean?
Bob the Drag Queen
Let's make one ourselves and put it up on Patreon and let's say it out loud and never actually do it. That'd be fun, right?
Monét X Change
Because maybe, Maybe we can make. We can make. We can make a game. The new game show that's going to be on. On. On network television.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can I tell you that me and Monae fully made a game. We have every single. We. We.
Monét X Change
We.
Bob the Drag Queen
Only thing we don't have is. Is the car's design, like the actual graphic. We don't have a graphic design. But Monet and I sat down until like 5am in the Alps. Not there in a manic. Not the Alps. Where was it? At the, the Naples. No, where's that place? The sw. The. The sw. Aspen. Aspen and Aspen. But, but we sat down. I mean, literally manic. Like, guys, we have the whole thing and honestly, this game is fun. Maybe, maybe you should do. I think that you should host a show where you play games. Like, you should host a Monet's game night.
Monét X Change
But not, not all games are friendly for tv, though. We have to figure out ones that work, you know?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, you have to figure it out. But you could do that. You could figure that out. You know what I mean? You're very smart. And it could be a house of rivalry. We need to be calling ourselves House of Rivalry. I'm trying to push this lately.
Monét X Change
House of rivalry.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. I mean, right now we're lowkey, kind of the only two members of House of rivalry. Kind of.
Monét X Change
Do we need to get some more drag children? Some interns up in here? Tell Alfredo, move his ass. But also, Alfredo would be like, no, I'm not doing it, girl.
Bob the Drag Queen
He has a dog.
Monét X Change
Every year, consistently, we are on Alfredo's. We're like on Alfredo's top podcast he listens to. So Alfredo, listen to this right now. Hi, Free.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, you know, Free's coming to la.
Monét X Change
I, I, I know. I want to hang out with him.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, you. You can come. I'm going to Disney for the first time ever. I've never been to a Disney park in my life.
Monét X Change
When y'all going? Can I come?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, of course.
Monét X Change
What day? What are my feet?
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know.
Monét X Change
I have to see you. I don't know if I'm able to go.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'll put you in the wheelchair.
Monét X Change
Like, soon.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, soon I'll put you around a wheelchair. Me and Free will take care of Me and Free are both big ladies. We'll push you around, Bob, you will.
Monét X Change
Not want to push around in a wheelchair all day.
Bob the Drag Queen
I would push you in a wheelchair. Me and Freaky take turns, Bob.
Monét X Change
I am heavy around Disney.
Bob the Drag Queen
We'll take turns. And they'll probably have. They probably have. And I bet a dollar they have motorized scooters. I bet they have them also. You can rent one. You could rent a motorized scooter for a day.
Monét X Change
Oh, my God. Okay.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm actually. My mom around. My mother is much smaller than you, but I just bring my mom around in a wheelchair all the time.
Monét X Change
Okay, imagine your mom times that by five. That's when you're pushing around at the theme park all day. Girl.
Bob the Drag Queen
Five, maybe three. But also, my mother was very small, to be fair.
Monét X Change
But.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, but me and Freak could push around. But also, I bet they have motorized scooter. It would be very strange if they didn't have. If Piggly went has motorized scooters, they probably have them at Disney World.
Monét X Change
I remember when I was on. When I went to South Carolina for the first time for the Spoleto Festival.
Bob the Drag Queen
Google that. Jacob, does Disney have motorized scooters for.
Monét X Change
The Spoleto Music Festival. In college and going down to South Carolina for the first time, there were two things I remember about that going down. This is my first time in the South. Well, besides that one year I lived in Atlanta, but I was in high school anyway, as an adult, I mean, in elementary school, going to. Have you ever eaten at the Kicking Chicken? It's a chain only in South. I don't know if you've ever been to South Carolina. It's a chain of restaurant only in South Carolina called the Kicking Chicken. Have you ever eaten this food?
Bob the Drag Queen
No.
Monét X Change
The chicken there is so good. And they make this goddamn ranch sauce that has shredded Parmesan in it. But like, not like the grated one, like, with like the little strips.
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Monét X Change
Yeah, I would.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, I want. Jacob, I can't. It's too small. Can you read it out loud? Jacob?
Monét X Change
They do have it. And they are rental price per day. 15 for manual, $60 for the electric one. So, Bob, can you rent it for me?
Bob the Drag Queen
You can afford it. You can swing. Okay.
Monét X Change
So I want. I would love to go with y'all. I would really be down to go. So the Kicking Chicken, they have this. They have this amazing ranch.
Bob the Drag Queen
Just give them out.
Monét X Change
I mean, imagine if you got to.
Bob the Drag Queen
Walmart, they were like, $5. Bitch, give me this motherfucking wheelchair. Give me this motherfucking motorized scooter. Like it seems able to make you rent a motorized scooter. And the reason I'm saying is because like obviously people can. Like the motorized scooters are not necessarily people in wheelchairs, people with mobility issues. Because you're walking a lot, you're standing a lot. So whereas the amount of walking you would normally do in your house in Walmart that's like times 10 at Disney is times 100. They should not be renting them out, they should be giving, they should give them out, in my opinion.
Monét X Change
Well, it's probably to people who don't really need it because then if they were just free people who probably didn't really need it were probably asked for it all the time. So when you're having people who don't really have mobility issues because they don't want to walk around a theme park all day, they're going to be taking them for people who do have mobility issues. So I think it's probably they didn't.
Bob the Drag Queen
Have a lot of them have a lot of them. Like people at Walmart aren't taking wheelchairs. I mean I'm sure there are but typically speaking of, well you, you fucking take the handicap seat which everyone dragged you for.
Monét X Change
When I, when I was a little kid going to, or not a little kid and like a bummy annoying ass high school kid I would go to the key food or the sea town and ride around in a little motorized thing. Like I would absolutely do that.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, I used to always do it at Walmart all the time. Go get my, go to the blood pressure, the blood pressure check thing every time and panic, panic every time.
Monét X Change
Wait, it was a ranch and was it, oh, going to a piggly scene and going to a piggly for the first time again. I, as, as a northerner I thought it was just, I'd never seen a piggly. I thought it was just something they made up in movies. Going to a piggly for the first time was such an interesting experience. It is like a supermarket, but it's like a country ass supermarket. It's fucking wild.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's a grocery store. It's a grocery store, not a supermarket.
Monét X Change
What's the difference in a supermarket and a grocery store?
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, Walmart is a supermarket. So they have like televisions and like, like Walmart you can buy. Not just gr. There's a grocery store attached to like a clothing store, attached to an electronic store, attached to a bank, attached to a nail salon, attached to a barber shop, attached to a gas station, attached to an eye doctor. That's a supermarket. Piggly Wiggly.
Monét X Change
No, because Pat Mark Pathmark was a chain of supermarket in New York doesn't have all that. It's just you can't buy TVs, you can't buy grills. It's just food.
Bob the Drag Queen
Is that a supermarket, man?
Monét X Change
I mean, they call it a supermarket.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob. What's the difference in a supermarket and a grocery store? Can you read it? Because I'm too far from the screen.
Monét X Change
The main difference between a grocery store and a supermarket is the selection of items available.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is what I just said.
Monét X Change
Grocery stores focus on food and drinks with a small selection of household items. They typically carry 10,000 to 15,000 stock keeping units. Oh, is that what Skews stands for? Stock keep? Did you know that?
Bob the Drag Queen
No.
Monét X Change
Stock keeping units also. Did you know that? Do you know what troll is? A what Troll is from, like when.
Bob the Drag Queen
You say, like little monsters. Wait, what?
Monét X Change
No, like. No, like. Like an Internet troll. Do you get. Do you know what troll is from?
Bob the Drag Queen
I like someone who's like trolling on the Internet. No, what's it from? I thought this. They're like little monster. They're annoying people.
Monét X Change
No, they're uncontrollable.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, interesting, right?
Monét X Change
Yeah and a half.
E
Where'd you hear that?
Monét X Change
I heard it on the View.
E
Sister, I have doubt.
Bob the Drag Queen
The fuck is.
Monét X Change
Where is that from? It's from Doubt.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's. It's Meryl Streep's big line. I mean, spoiler alert. But it's Meryl. You find out that Meryl Streep is actually a nun who doesn't really believe in God. At the very end, she's like, sister, I have doubt.
Monét X Change
And then a supermarket have a larger selection of items, including food, household goods, clothing, and pharmacy items. They have long aisles, sprawling floor plans. So. Yeah, so I guess. So I guess if you have a. So a grocery store doesn't have like the far. Like the. The. The.
Bob the Drag Queen
The electronics, the clothes, the pharmacy, all that stuff. Well, I guess it's a super. I don't think Pathmark is a super.
Monét X Change
Pathmark has a pharmacy in it. It has a pharmacy in it. Yeah. So, yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Ooh.
Monét X Change
For the grocery store, I guess in la it will be Ralph's. In New York, it will be C Town. C Town because they got the UT chips. Now, I don't know why UTS is not widely available, but UTZ chips are the best ships.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I love the northeast thing, for sure. UTS is a northeast thing. Down. Oh, I. In Georgia, my favorite grocery store was Kroger, which I don't think Kroger exists anymore, or at least the one in Clayton county doesn't exist anymore. There's probably still Kroger somewhere. But there was. The one that I used to go to was closed. I also like Ingles, but Kroger was great. And in la, I like Ralph's, which is not high end, but I just think Ralph's is such a. I just like that. I like Ralph's. I really like that grocery store. I do.
Monét X Change
You know the fried chicken at Ralph's? Nobody's touching the fried chicken. Then Ralph's, I don't care where you can go to Roscoe's. The fried chicken as Ralph's is so good. It's very good.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know. In the south, the Walmarts have pretty good fried chicken. As far as grocery store fried chicken goes, you have a favorite grocery store, roti chicken.
Monét X Change
What happened?
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you have a favorite grocery store, rotisserie chicken?
Monét X Change
My rotisserie chicken, for some reason I wanted that to feel a little more organic. So I like to go with whole foods for my rotisserie chicken.
Bob the Drag Queen
To be honest, they all kind of taste the same. Rotisserie chicken's kind of like. Even when they're like, this was lemon pepper. I'm like, is it. Is it lemon pepper? And I'll buy a whole roast history chicken and be like, I'm about to eat this. And I'm like, y'all, that's a lot of food.
Monét X Change
I was just about to say that. Bob. I don't know what I like. I would never. Cuz a whole chicken has two breasts, two thighs, two drumsticks, two wings. I will eat a whole rotisserie chicken. But if I would. But I would never buy eight piece of chicken from Popeyes or KFC and eat it.
Bob the Drag Queen
To be clear, a chicken doesn't have two breasts. Like, it's a. It's eight chicken breast. They're not like individual titties. It is a chicken breast.
Monét X Change
But a whole, A whole chicken has two.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, baby, when you buy a chicken breast, that's the whole breast. If you get one chicken breast, that's the whole breast.
Monét X Change
Bob. No, if you take a roast tissue chicken and you cut it in half, you get two breasts. That's how it works.
Bob the Drag Queen
Is that how that works?
Monét X Change
Yes, I've done it several times. I. I'll get a whole chicken, I'll cut it in half and you get two breasts.
Bob the Drag Queen
What in the Saint Lucia is what? What in the Saint Lucia? You go to the yard, grab a chicken, pluck it, rip it in half and feed it to what's it y'all? What's your cat? Your dog's name? The dog that ate your cat, what's her name? Egyptian? What's her name? Cleopatra? What kind of dog was Cleopatra? In fact? Tell me after the break. Tell me after the break. Tell me after the break.
Monét X Change
Okay.
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Monét X Change
I don't know what Bree. I think Kilpatrick was a mutt. I couldn't tell you. I couldn't tell you what breach he was. It was like a mix of things. Sal is one of those countries. There's a lot of dogs. Just dogs running around all the time everywhere.
Bob the Drag Queen
I feel like you villainized Cleopatra and I feel like she's a victim of this, too. Even though she ate your cat. She also was a victim of this, too.
Monét X Change
She's a victim by eating someone's cat. But she's a victim. I victimized. I just told you the story. You victimized her.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, she did what dogs do. And y'all act like she was crazy. They attack things. Yeah, she did what dogs do. So when they attack. When a bear attacks a person in the woods, the bear's just doing what bears do.
Monét X Change
Okay? A bear is a wild animal. This is. This is a. This is a domesticated dog, not a wild animal in the woods.
Bob the Drag Queen
Was she domesticated?
Monét X Change
It wasn't my dog. It was Ma's dog.
Bob the Drag Queen
Honestly, Cleopatra's an icon. We stand with Cleopatra. You know, we were talking earlier about you being a spokesperson for insurance companies, but I don't think you want to be in that business because, baby, working for insurance companies is not the T. Right now you do not want to go public if you are a CEO or a high up at any insurance company. But you might not want to tell them you work at the call center.
Monét X Change
Yeah, yeah. I mean no one, no one is, no one is showing up at Flo's house and, and, and, and, and, and popping six shots in her back.
Bob the Drag Queen
So as you all know, it is massive, massive news this week. This. A CEO for United Healthcare was, was murdered in cold blood in daylight. Brian Thompson was we. There is footage of him walking up to his hotel for his conference. A man walks up behind him, a Jake Gyllenhaal look alike walks up behind. Allegedly walks up behind him, pulls out a pistol with a silence. That is scary. Seeing someone hold a pistol is scary. When there's a silencer on, I'm like, you are literally an assassin.
Monét X Change
007.
Bob the Drag Queen
He, he pulled it out, popped him in the. Shot him in the back. He went to the ground. He shot him in the leg and then he shot a third bullet but it didn't hit him. And then he just walked away. Got on the bike also rode to the park.
Monét X Change
How good of a hitman you are if you, if you shoot and you miss when, when the target is dead, he's dead.
Bob the Drag Queen
He did not miss.
Monét X Change
No, the third, the third one, the one, the one that the last one he shot, he fired and missed.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I feel like, I don't know if he missed but I feel like he, he had to get those three bullets out because they had messages written on them.
Monét X Change
Defend, deny, denounce, depose the pose. Yeah, it's, it's a pretty and like.
Bob the Drag Queen
But.
Monét X Change
The thing about that is like, like I guess when you do, when you kill someone like that, you're doing it more so for the message then to actually affect change because when you kill that person, the next person in line or the next whoever is coming up.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, not necessarily so. Blue Cross Blue Shield released a policy that would, that would restrict Anastasia you Anesth. Anesthesia. Not anesthesia. Anesthesia use, baby.
Monét X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Once they, once they announced that people found the CEO and was like, Kim, Kim, you want to do that? Kim, Kim, Are you sure, Kim? I just want to ask again. Are you sure that's the stance you want to take, baby? They were like, we were just kidding. They were like, we were just kidding. Y'all can have all the anesthesia you want. That was a joke we told Early, Early April Fools. We were kidding. You can have anesthesia now. So, so does it affect change?
Monét X Change
Which is Egregious. What I was talking about is that they were, they were passing this rule that like let's say you had to have brain surgery and your surgery was six hours. But the limit of anesthesia, you could have only four hours. At four hours, they will cut your anesthesia off. And so I guess what will you.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do for the other. You start paying after a certain hour. Like, after a certain hour you start paying.
Monét X Change
Well, when I say cut it off, like, yes, unless you, unless you start. Unless you like, you sign off on paying. Like in theory, which I don't think legally they could do. Like, you kind of like have to pay for more because it seems crazy that you could opt to not pay for it. They need to stop anesthesia. They just. You just start feel like that sounds crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, they don't have. A Hippocratic oath would allow a doctor to. Jacob, can you google how much anesthesia costs? I don't think the Hippocratic oath allows doctors to do that. That. That doesn't sound.
Monét X Change
Yeah, and that shit is expensive getting general anesthesia added to your surgery. Because I had a few surgery at this point. Bitch, it'd be like $4,000 more like anesthesia is expensive. That shit is fucking expensive.
Bob the Drag Queen
Expensive is. Wait.
E
300 to $500 per hour.
Bob the Drag Queen
Does an. Is anesthesia. Wait, wait, I'm a little confused because you were awake, so you weren't under anesthesia, were you?
Monét X Change
I was under local anesthesia, so I didn't pay for it for my feet.
Bob the Drag Queen
But so you. In general, anesthesia makes you go to sleep. Yeah. And local anesthesia, you're awake. You're awake for that.
E
Local is always a little bit more expensive.
Bob the Drag Queen
So would, so would Novocaine be considered a local anesthesia? Can you google that, Jacob?
Monét X Change
I think so.
Bob the Drag Queen
I've had a lot of dental work done and I've never. Well, that's not trouble asleep for my wisdom teeth. Everything else I have been, I've been looking Dr. Will just in his eyes. Making direct eye contact where he rips my gums to shreds. Looking him, looking him dead in his eyes, like, yes. Eye to eye contact with a man who is rip. Cutting my gums up. Zip. Zipping them. Filing my teeth down.
Monét X Change
Yeah, yeah. No Novocain. Yeah, I think Novocain is local. I think it would count as local because not.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes. Yeah, you're not actually on Novocaine. It's actually lidocaine. They don't really use Novocain anymore. Novocain is really weak, so it's actually.
Monét X Change
Is the laughing gas.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's General. No, I didn't get laughing gas. No laughing gas. The one. I've never used it. I've never used it. I'm using either, but I want to.
Monét X Change
Doesn't that seem fun?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, it seems scary to me. It sounds like a relapse and I don't want to do it.
E
I see there are three different types. There's also regional, there's local, which is like right at the thing, and then regional, which is like an epidural that is like half of your body, like a full region of your body. And that's local drag.
Bob the Drag Queen
Regional drag.
E
Oh, actually no, that's about 200 to 400. So yeah, general fully going under is the most expensive. 300 to 500.
Monét X Change
And allegedly, you know, I don't know this is true. Allegedly. Like that's what like some celebrities do when they're getting like big tattoo pieces. They just go into general so they don't have to like feel the pain. Someone do that.
Bob the Drag Queen
But they were saying that you shouldn't be doing that. I saw a thing on, I'm on tattoo Reddit and I don't know how many tattoo Reddit because I don't. I mean, I have some tattoos, but I haven't had a tattoo in like four years now. Maybe, maybe not that long. But anyway, the point, the point is there was some guy who got his entire back done and he went under general for it. And they were like, you should not do this. Like, there's a reason why your body stop. There's a reason why tattoo artists stop doing tattoos. At a certain point. It's not just because it hurts. It's also because like your body needs to heal. Your body can't heal too much. It, it will, it will shock you. Your body will be shocked trying to heal this giant back piece that happened.
Monét X Change
To that, that, that one artist, I didn't know her name, but she got her whole leg, she got like her whole leg from her ankle up all the way to her, like her hip. And she had to like end up going to the hospital cuz her body went, when it went into shock, it was too much.
Bob the Drag Queen
But I mean, so the public, the public reaction to this assassination has been honestly, in my opinion, quite justified. Like, yeah, someone died, that's very sad. Someone's dead. That is very, very sad. But do you know how many people have died because of the actions of this health care company? Let me tell right now, I am still. Y'all, my house burned down in. On January 10th as of today, it is December 8th. I am still fighting my insurance company. This is. This is. This is. No one died in this house of fire. You know what I mean? No one died in this house fire. These insurance companies do not give a fuck about. They don't. I'm telling. They don't care if you have lost everything. When my family lost everything, they made me basically begun, plead, do homework, go. Like, the whole thing about insurance, I'm like, the point is, I was paying insurance on the off chance that my. That something would happen in my home on the off chance or that I would need something fixed around my home. And I paid. I did my side. And I wasn't allowed to miss one payment, by the way. And I did not miss one payment. And if I would. If y'all would have came down on me, I would have lost my coverage. And then something did happen, and y'all acted like I was asking for something that you did not agree to. You know? You see what I'm saying? Yeah.
Monét X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
So, yes, it is very sad that this person died, but look at how many people have died because of what these insurance companies are doing. And not just dying with people who are, like, living in extreme, extreme debt. Someone, someone online was like, someone lost their father, someone lost a husband, someone lost an uncle. Yes, there's probably been someone else who lost all those things because of insurance company. Literally one person lost a father, an uncle, a son, a cousin because of all the stuff these insurance companies are doing. Lost their home. Did you know 60, over 60% of bankruptcies are because of medical bills? Over 60% of bankruptcies in America are because of medical bills.
Monét X Change
Yeah, but I think. But I do think these insurance companies are highly corrupt. I think that medical debt is. It is like, it is fucking up a lot of people's lives in the country. But killing a CEO of a medical. Of a medical company does not. That's fixing a sentiment of the problem. Like the. The problem is these, is. Is. Is our government and how we have. And how we have allowed these people and these companies to operate this way. How we. How we have allowed them to mark up pharmaceuticals and drugs exponentially in a way that it should not be. So I don't think. I don't think killing these CEOs is the problem is, Is. Is a solution. The problem is electing people and try to fix our government so that they. So that they tackle these problems like our. And again, I don't know what level of our government tackles that. I think that's more of A federal. I don't know if that's the, the, the, the con. I don't know who is responsible for that. But these people, they lobby in our government and they, they, they buy these politicians so that, so that they pass legislation and law so they can keep operating in this lawless way. And if we just start this precedent where we're murdering CEOs of these companies, we're ushering an era of like lawlessness and chaos in our, in our society. And I, and I don't think that's a solution to fix the problem.
Bob the Drag Queen
To be clear, I did not say that killing the CEOs. I said the reaction to the murder is justified. I think that people's reaction being like, well, a sympathy is out of network.
Monét X Change
Yeah, I saw that.
Bob the Drag Queen
Thoughts and deductibles. Like, I think that the re. I did not say them, that, that the, that the, the killing is the way to go. But I think that the reaction to it is, in my opinion, it's quite justified because, you know, it's not justified the way that they are treating their clients. The way they're treating their, the insured. The way they're treating people who are paying health insurance is so expensive. And by the way, you have to have it. If you don't have insurance, you will be charged for not having insurance. And there's only like a.2amonth and a half, two months where you can sign up for it. So if you don't sign up for it in this little chunk of time, this little chunk of time, you are now uninsured. And you have to pay a fee for being uninsured. And then you have to pay, heaven forbid you, you have to do anything that is, that should, that should not be that expensive. You know what I mean? Heaven. You get a flu, you break a leg, you have to go to the doctor, you get pregnant. That shit is expensive. They are ruining these lives. So I'm not saying that everyone should be out there, but I'm saying why does it. I don't think it's fair that not. I don't think it's fair that people are like, oh my God, their lives. Didn't nobody care about their lives. They were happening.
Monét X Change
Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, I don't, I don't really have reverence for dead folk. Like, I'm not these ones people like, you know, if, you know, never speak.
Bob the Drag Queen
Ill of the dead.
Monét X Change
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not one of those. So in that regard, I don't care. But I think that that same energy, of that same energy needs to be given to our fucking politicians because they are the ones letting his behavior happen. Like, and again, I don't know how we affect change. Like, we have been complaining about these lobbies and for. Since I've been conscious of politics in my adult life, we have been talking about it and there seems to be no change. Like, there's no politician. I mean, I've heard it. I've heard a lot of talk from like super, super, super, super progressive people like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren at some point talking about tackling these pharmaceuticals and these insurance companies. And now we're electing Dr. Oz to be. He is, he is on, on, on the docket to be the minister or whatever the fuck his title is that he's handling Medicaid and Medicare and you know, and Trump wants to get rid of Obamacare, the Affordable Care act, and again, so. But I don't really see anyone really like having a platform of talking about what you're talking about now to manage these health insurance companies to make them.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think that now, I think the conversation now is bigger than it's ever been. And I'm not saying go out and kill CEOs. That's not what I'm advocating for. But someone did do it and now look how big this conversation is. In fact, I'll tell you more of my thoughts when I come back. PSA for anyone who rents. If you haven't heard of Built, you're about to thank me. Imagine earning points on rent. You gotta pay it every month. Yes, your rent. And using those points toward things like flights, hotels, fitness classes, or even your next rent payment. With Built, that's now a reality and you don't even have to check with your landlord to get started. Let me break it down for you right now. There's no cost to join and as a Build member, you'll earn valuable points on rent and your everyday spending. Those Built points can be Transferred to over 500 airlines and 700,000 hotels and properties worldwide. Or you can redeem them toward a future rent payment or exclusive experience only available to BILT members.
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Monét X Change
Maybe it has. I'm not conscious of it. If it has happened, I don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monét X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
But that is swift, baby. It was sw. The public outcry was swift. How fast they were like, you sure you want to do that, Kim? You sure? I'm gonna. I'm gonna give you one more chance to re. Rethink your position here, Kim. And she rethought it. And also, the first of all, I do not think the cops are looking for him because cops are blue collar workers.
Monét X Change
You don't think.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, no.
Monét X Change
Looking for this person.
Bob the Drag Queen
New York City is the most filmed there is. Practically, practically nowhere you can go in New York City without being filmed, apparently. Apparently. Except for Central park, apparently. But at some point, you got to leave Central park, baby. They can track you no matter where you are. You are always being filmed at Central Park. There's only one footage from one angle with no sound. And then we have a picture.
Monét X Change
They put out another one like earlier today of him like a taxi cab without his mask off and everything.
Bob the Drag Queen
I saw nothing. No plan. And also when they posted his face, people have been fawning over him because he's quite handsome. He kind of looks like Jake Gyllenhaal apparently. But online, when you see looks like Rose, we see the comments. People are like, oh, my God, this is just a blank picture. Why do they Post a blank picture with nothing on it. Everyone's like, I didn't see nothing. And cops are blue collar workers. They don't make that much fucking money. Cops aren't. Cops aren't, aren't the elite. Cops aren't the wealthy. I don't think, I honestly don't think they're looking like they, like they're not, they're not, they're not doing that.
Monét X Change
He's not, yeah, I mean he didn't.
Bob the Drag Queen
Escape through the wood, through the back woods of Shport, Louisiana or, or, or Baton Rouge or, or, or, or, you know, Andalusha, Alabama. He was in New York City. He was basically filmed every second until he went to Central park and probably a few seconds in Central park and then he was being filmed when he got out of S Park, you know what I mean? But do you have, man, they have this man's face and no one's like. And everyone's like, I ain't never. Not a single, they have his face and not a single person has come forward. Everyone's like, I have never seen this man in my life. Would you believe this man knows no people? No one knows him. No one. Not a single person in the world. He don't have no family, he don't have children, he don't have a wife, he don't have parents, he didn't go to school. No one knows this man because they're not looking for him. Because I think they sympathize with the, with the people, in my humble opinion.
Monét X Change
And of course this. No interaction in the world, in America would be short of racism because the first early reports talking about he is some, he's, he looked like a light skinned man, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Basically saying that he's a person of color. I'm like, no, why do you have to be a person? Why do you have to be light skinned?
Bob the Drag Queen
This and the idea that. I think that if I had to guess, if I had to guess, I think that Jacob, do you know, I mean, you're dating me, so you probably know. But like, do you know that light skin is not a term that people use for white people?
E
Yeah.
Monét X Change
Did you know that before? What was the question?
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, yeah, I don't think he was in. I don't think that cop was insinuating that he was black. I don't know that. Do white people know that light skin is not a term used for people who aren't black? Like, light skin is a term a white person.
E
You would like, you would say, oh no, she's really pale.
Monét X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
I thought, I mean, I, when I heard light skin, I was like, light skin. He's not light skin. He, he's white. But maybe he was saying, like, he's not brown, he's not black. He is of a pale, he's either like a pale Asian or, or a pale white person or white. Like I think he was saying, like he's not brown.
Monét X Change
No, I think they were saying, I think when they said he was light skinned, they, they were, they were meaning he looked, they were saying he looks like a light skinned black person.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think they were because there was a picture of him and everyone's like, this man, he's not black. No one thinks this man is black. There has not been a single angle. I, in my humble opinion, I don't think. No, but, but he was, he was white in the picture when he, when he raised the gun, he was white there too. No one's ever thought, I don't think anyone has ever thought this man was black. Now, I'm not defending the cops, but I don't think this cop knows what light skin means because he's like, he's light skinned.
Monét X Change
I think, I think if you are a cop living in New York City with all these people of color, you know what light skin means? You know, light skin means black person. I don't, I, if, if this is.
Bob the Drag Queen
A cop in Montana, you're black, but.
Monét X Change
Nobody live in New York City. If, if, if this was a cop in Montana, then maybe I'll believe that. But bitch, you are a cop from New York City. You know, light skin mean black.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I don't know what he meant, but everyone knows, everyone knows he's not black. No one thinks he's. No one has ever thought he was black. There has never been a moment in this conversation. And also, but even before his face came out, no one ever thought he was black. Ever. He's. This has never been part of the conversation.
Monét X Change
And also, Bob, it wasn't just one cop. This was. This one cop doesn't make the call to do this. A system of people saw this thing and they said, oh yeah, light skin. I don't think there's no way in whatever police department or whatever, whatever, that it went through so many eyes and ears and they didn't know that light skin means black like light skin does. Like, again, I don't know what they meant.
Bob the Drag Queen
But I don't think anyone thinks this man is black. I don't think anyone has ever thought this man was black and he's not black. And everyone knows that. Everyone had a picture like they had a picture of a white man. Talk about some light skin. What is that? What would that, what could that. If you have a picture of a white man and you're like light skin.
Monét X Change
Why would anyone think that he's black or mixed or saying that this is, this person has black in them, that's why they're light skinned?
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I don't know. I can't speak for their thought. But what I'm saying is everyone knows he's not black. Literally everyone knows that. No one thinks this man is black and he's not black. So also black people don't be assassins like that. That's not a black thing.
Monét X Change
I mean, there was that guy, the.
Bob the Drag Queen
Guy in the BC Guy.
Monét X Change
DC Guy.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, the DC Sniper. There were two of them actually.
Monét X Change
The DC Sniper. There was a movie about the DC sniper. I heard it was good.
Bob the Drag Queen
I've not seen it.
Monét X Change
America is crazy, yo. This country, we be out here murdering presidents, assassin presidents all the time. We, we.
Bob the Drag Queen
Not all the time. I think our country probably assassinates world leaders less than a lot of other countries.
Monét X Change
At the turn of the century though, we was, we was assassinating left, right and center.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like when was our last presidential assassination?
Monét X Change
And did we have like four or five of them? Yeah, jfk. But before that there were Abraham Lincoln. There were three before him. No, there were two in the middle of, in the middle of Lincoln and, and Kennedy. They're like two or three in there, girl.
Bob the Drag Queen
Who are all the assassinated presidents? Lincoln, jfk. Who else been assassinated? President wise.
Monét X Change
Look it up, Andy.
E
Four sitting presidents have been assassinated. Abraham Lincoln in 1865, James A. Garfield in 1881, William McKinley in 1901, and John F. Kennedy in 1963.
Monét X Change
Yeah, there were two between them.
Bob the Drag Queen
But almost every president has, has had assassination attempts. Did you know that?
Monét X Change
I mean, I believe it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was looking into this video about the security they have. They have like a thing in the presidential motorcade that disables detonation devices. Like you can't, you cannot detonate a bomb underneath the President's car. It's like literally impossible.
Monét X Change
Like, is it like it sends out some radio frequency that stops it or something?
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know.
E
Yeah, it's like a wireless jammer. I mean, they don't, they haven't released the specifics of it. They try to keep it light. So you don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
But yes, you literally cannot detonate a bomb anywhere around the President because of some Technology they have that will stop the communication or the signal, Their Bluetooth or whatever the fuck people are using these days. I don't know what bomb people are using these days, but you literally cannot do it. Isn't that crazy?
Monét X Change
I mean, no, I mean, in 2024, 2025, almost. Honestly, like, I believe that. You know what I mean? Like, I say, like, should be going down. I'm like, how do we not have more, like, technology for, like, that. Oh, my God, look at the door for Obama's car. It's like an armored car. It's like a.
Bob the Drag Queen
The doors are completely bulletproof. You also have no clue what car the president's in. There are several cars. They're all identical. You don't know which one the president's in, allegedly. Sometimes the president isn't even in the motorcade.
Monét X Change
Would you. Would you ever want to live, like. Would you ever want to live like that?
Bob the Drag Queen
No money. I don't even. I don't even want to be more famous than I am right now. This is a lot for me. I. There's a lot around. I've been around a few very famous people, and that is not the lifestyle for me. I know you said you want to be Ronald famous. I would never want that in a million years. It's too much.
Monét X Change
Well, I think it's complicated. The, like, the level of. For the things that I want to do. I think you. It requires more fame, right? If I want, like, my music, more people to hear my music and my music to be bigger, like, it just requires that, like, more ears on it means more fame, and more eyes on it means more fame. Like, there's just a symptom of the thing that I want to happen.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, not necessarily. There are some people who can just, like, walk around. Like, I think Bob Odenkirk could probably just walk around the world.
Monét X Change
I don't know who that even is.
Bob the Drag Queen
Bob Odenkirk is on. He's the. The star of Better Call Saul. He's a very famous actor. I bet that. I bet that someone, like, Let me think of a slave.
E
I mean, he's been Breaking Bad.
Bob the Drag Queen
He's. He. Yeah, he was. But his. His big thing is Better Call Saul. But he's a pretty big actor, though. I bet someone, like, I've seen, like, I've seen Cheryl Underwood walking around the airport, just walking around by herself. I ran into her actually, one time. She's like, hey, hey. Just walking around. She more famous than I am.
Monét X Change
I'm talking about.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think.
Monét X Change
I feel like I Feel like, yes, it happens with actors. I feel like it's more like a music thing, right? Like, I think like music because I think music is a little more far reaching. Because if you are a big artist, you can be like people who are like, super big act like famous actors, like, are like. Is Meryl Streep as popular in Asia and Europe? She's in America. I don't know, but I know, you know, I don't know. Fucking SZA is, is huge in South America and in Europe and in Asia. Rihanna, Riante, like Carrie Underwood, I think she's also super huge in Europe.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I can sell tickets to South America. I think Meryl Streep is famous in South America. If I can sell out a theater in South America, I think Meryl Streep is probably famous in South America. America, probably.
Monét X Change
I'm not saying she's not. I'm just saying that me. I'm just saying my point is that music is a little more far reaching that way. Like, like music, it transcends more than like, like, like regions more than art. Big American artists be big in other places as opposed to just acting, for sure.
Bob the Drag Queen
But to go back to the point, I would never. I don't, I don't have any desire to be that famous. I don't want to be crazy wealthy. I've never wanted to be like, I want to be a billionaire. Like, that doesn't. My motivation has never been money. Money. I'm not like people who like, I got to get to the money. I've never been like a. I've never been a hustle culture type. If I'm hustling, it's because I love what I'm doing, not because I'm like, I got to get this money. You know what I mean?
Monét X Change
I've been getting to the money. Hey, you want to be a billionaire? Yeah, I want to be a billionaire. That's a complicated question, I think. No, I have, like, I have like, no desires to want. I'm not like, oh, I'm out. I'm not out here working to try to want to become a billionaire. But if it happens, my process, how successful I am with like touring and like, and like, and working really hard. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you know, like, I don't like, do people like the Taylor Swift.
Bob the Drag Queen
No one becomes a Taylor Swift to be right.
Monét X Change
Did Taylor says, strive to be a bit like, did she strive to be a billionaire? Or she just. Is her music and her touring so successful that she's become a billionaire? You Know what I mean?
Bob the Drag Queen
I think it's a multitude of things, but I just want to be clear that no one becomes a billionaire because they're just working so hard. Working hard is not what makes billionaires. Exploitation is what makes billionaires.
Monét X Change
I'm talking about. I'm not saying that the only way to become a billionaire is by working hard. I'm not saying that.
Bob the Drag Queen
But I'm saying I don't think that working hard has anything to do with becoming a billionaire. I think you can work hard, sure. But becoming a billionaire is a completely separate thing just from working hard.
Monét X Change
I think that, I think that, I think that hard work goes into becoming a billionaire. I don't think that you cannot work hard and become a billionaire.
Bob the Drag Queen
I, I think that you probably, I think you probably can. But it's about the exploitation that. What I'm saying is the hard work isn't part of what makes you a billionaire. The exploitation of other people, which by the way, all, all capitalism is exploitation. So even, even the mom and pop shop exploits their employees. You exploit their work. But the point of the question is, are you making it viable for them as well? What I'm saying is I don't think hard work is part of the factor what makes you a billionaire. You can work hard and become a billionaire, but you're not becoming a billionaire because you worked hard is what I'm saying.
Monét X Change
And say that again, because I don't think I agree.
Bob the Drag Queen
You can work hard and be a billionaire, but the hard work is not what makes you a billionaire. Like, for example, if every billionaire.
Monét X Change
Yeah, I don't agree with that. I mean, yes, yes. I don't think so. I'm saying that. What about the hard work to become a billionaire? There is hard work in becoming a billionaire.
Bob the Drag Queen
What do you think is the hard work that, what do you think specifically regards to hard work makes you a billionaire?
Monét X Change
I mean, I think it depends on what industry is right to become, to become a billionaire. Like how Taylor Swift has. I think that comes with hard work and music and working hard and touring and all that stuff. Like, I think that there are multiple things that contribute to working hard to become successful billionaire in music. If you're becoming a successful Mark Zuckerberg, I don't fucking know, like to be him. There was hard work in doing that, right? To creating the software, to doing a thing and doing a lot of stuff in computer and technology that I don't even, I can't even fathom. I'm not saying that, I'm not saying I'm not saying that it only takes hard work to become a billionaire, but I'm saying to become a billionaire it does take hard work.
Bob the Drag Queen
And what I'm saying is the hard work actually has nothing to do with being a billionaire. They are literally two completely separate things. That's like saying, like, that's like saying having a job. To be a billionaire you probably have to work somewhere, but it's not the job that makes you a billionaire. It is specifically the exploitation of labor to a degree that makes it impossible for the people beneath you to rise up. So Mark Zuckerberg's hard work, the stuff that Mark Zuckerberg did in college, that's not what made him a billionaire. That's not the stuff that made him a billionaire.
Monét X Change
But it is, Bob. It's part of it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, listen to me. It's, it's, that's not the stuff that makes him a billionaire. Because there's lots of people who have, who, who come with hard work. Who's yada yada had this stuff where Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk and, and the Coach Brothers and all people become billionaires is when they start the greed of buying up other businesses. It's not buying up another business is not hard work. It's just offering someone something they literally cannot say no to. It's purchasing other businesses. It is, it is cornering the market so no one else can get a foothold in possibly at all. That's not necessarily connected to hard work. You can be a billionaire and not work hard. And I don't think every billionaire is necessarily working hard. I don't think that that is part of the ingredient of what it takes to be a billionaire. But as long as you're willing to be really, you know, I think, I think one thing that you have to be to be a billionaire is cutthroat, completely relentless and a little bit cold hearted. I think you have to agree and.
Monét X Change
That'S what I disagree.
Bob the Drag Queen
Literally I think you have to have those three things to be a billionaire.
Monét X Change
And that's what I disagree. I think that there is a, there is like, that's like, that's like saying that you can have, you can have a cherry pie without the flour or whatever it is to make a fucking crust. Like it is part of the ingredients to make the thing. And I think hard work is part of the ingredients now are what the other thing that you talked about, I think those are part of it too. But I don't think that you can get there without hard work. I just don't think so. Now, inheritance is a separate thing, right? If I'm a billionaire and I hand it out to my kid, my, did my kid necessarily have to work hard? That's a different conversation, different topic. But in order to become a billionaire, I do think hard work is part of the piece to make that, to bake that, to create that.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I think that's part of the illusion that they sell us, right? The illusion is that billionaires just worked so hard. The illusion is like they were just. My God, the work they were doing was crazy.
Monét X Change
It.
Bob the Drag Queen
You wouldn't even believe the amount of work. And I feel like we've been, we've been fed this lie so many times that, that a lot of us believe it. And by the way, I think if someone believes it, that makes sense because we're told over and over and over again how hard these people are working. But when you look at, I was looking at the, the, the documentary for Vince McMahon on Netflix recently, and when wrestling started. We're not wrestling started, but when Vince McMahon joined wrestling, it was, it was a regional anesthesia. Everyone had a reason. They were in they're kind of unspoken region. Like you just, you don't do wrestling. If you are the New England guy, you would never do a wrestling match in Florida. You just, you just don't do it. Kind of like gangs in their territories, you know what I mean? But Vince, man, was like, I'm gonna fucking do it. And then he did it. He did, he did, he did it. And then when he started making so much money, he just started buying up every other company. He just bought them all. And it's not that he worked so hard. He didn't work hard. He just started engaging in unethical business practices. He started, he started losing his ethics or I don't know if he ever had them, but he lost the ethics of what they were doing in wrestling. And that's why he became a billionaire. Not because he was working harder than everyone else, but because he disengaged from ethics and that's why he was able to become a billionaire, because he gets.
Monét X Change
Bob. I think there is, there is, there is hard work that you're missing in an equation. You're only seeing the small part of that he went to buy all these things. But I think there are a lot of other hardworking factors that contributed to get into that state and that status to do that. And again, I do agree with you. There is some corruption, there is greed there, all, there are all those things baked into that but to get to the level to be able to have the money and whatever to do that. I think there is hard, hard work that comes into doing that. I was watching the Martha Stewart documentary the other day and this is a woman like to become a billionaire. Like you will watch her story and this has worked hard.
Bob the Drag Queen
Right?
Monét X Change
She was, she was, she was on the stock exchange. Yes, Martha, I know. She still is. Martha was a was.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob is. I don't know. I feel like I would have known that she's a billionaire. She might be a. Go ahead, keep talking. I'm listening. Excuse me.
Monét X Change
And so she. There are a lot of factors that contributed into her becoming this, to becoming this homemaker and this super successful person. Hard work is a factor in that. It's not the only thing. But I think, I think also sometimes it's luck, sometimes it's, it's, there are other factors that come into that and I'm not discrediting what you're saying that people don't have to do with all that stuff to get to billionaire status. But hard work is often part of the equation.
E
Was a billionaire at like the height of her thing, but she's no longer billionaire.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I don't know if this is, but I don't even know how true this is. Martha Stewart was once the first self made billionaire. That's not true. The first self made billionaire.
Monét X Change
I don't know if she was the first but in her documentary I'm just.
Bob the Drag Queen
Reading what this thing says that's, I'm like is that true? Because I know there was a, there was a black woman who was, what's her name? Hair lady.
Monét X Change
Madam C.J. walker.
Bob the Drag Queen
Madam J. Walker. But that was also by her, by, by her time standards. But now her network is about $400 million a measly. No, I'm kidding.
Monét X Change
She was, she was a billionaire. At some point we'll agree to disagree.
Bob the Drag Queen
I have another question for you. Do you think that you can be an ethical billionaire?
Monét X Change
Be an ethical billionaire? To be honest, I haven't really looked into that. If I had to think about it. I think that you do have to step on some toes and you do have to do some bad things to become a billionaire. So maybe not ethical but I have not really done a lot of mind work, authority thoughts or dug into besides the mar documentary and some other under social network things I watched like that. But I don't. It seems like you, you probably have to do some, some bad.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'd be interested in, in your journey on billionaires and how if, if you just decide to go that ro. Because I think if you look into it, you'll come. You'll come back and be like, actually, it's not hard work, but maybe you won't. Maybe you'll be like, no, it is hard work. Or hard work is a component as.
Monét X Change
A CEO, as a boss, like you are. You're growing up. People are gonna not. They're always going to. But, you know, I'm sure some people have worked for Civil Ivory that have felt exploited. Some people worked for. For Bob the Dragon felt exploited. Some people work from 1x that have felt exploited. Like, I don't think that to when you lead people, like, you know, because some working relationships sour in a, in a, in a bad way. Some of them don't. Like, it's hard to say when you're not going, someone is not. Or what makes someone not feel exploited, or they weren't paid fair or they didn't. Or their value.
Bob the Drag Queen
Everyone's being exploited as part of how capitalism works. Like, you can't be a profitable company if you're not exploiting your workers. You literally. You can't. It's just. To what extent are you going to exploit them? That's just what it is.
Monét X Change
Yes. So people have worked for us. I'm sure they felt that way. So by that definition, to be, to become. To become the status we are, or can you. Can we. Are we ethical in how we run our businesses? You know what I mean?
Bob the Drag Queen
I didn't say exploiting is not ethical. Everyone, you have to. No, no, no.
Monét X Change
I'm saying, I'm talking about. I'm trying to talk. We're taking. Talking about being a billionaire and just moving it to what we are now, right, to reach the level of success that we have. Have we been ethical the entire way? So it's like, it's not just. It's not just unethical practices are reserved for billionaires. To become a ten thousandaire, to become a fifty thousand, to become one hundred thousand there. Like, are we. Have we exploited people? Have people worked for us and felt exploited and feel like we have been unethical in the way they've been treated? The answer might be yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, the short answer is everyone is exploited. So yes, you cannot run a business without exploiting people. So, yes, we have exploited people. You have to exploit to be a profitable business. You just. Even if you're making one extra dollar, you have to exploit. So, yes, we've certainly exploited people have to exploit. Yes, you have to exploit people to have a Profitable business exploiting is. It has a negative connotation. But if you are taking someone's work and then what they're giving you, you are charging more for it. So if, if you, if I'm paying you $6 an hour to work, but I know for a fact that what you're working is actually worth $15 an hour, you're being exploited. If I'm paying you $20 an hour to work, but I know for a fact that what you're doing is actually worth $30 an hour, you're being exploited. But you.
Monét X Change
That's the definition of exploit.
Bob the Drag Queen
Say again.
Monét X Change
To make. The definition of exploit. To make full use of and derive benefit from a resource.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. So you, you have to exploit. You have to exploit your workers. You literally have to. Meaning. So when I say make benefit from. If, if, if you're, if you're doing $20, if, if you're doing $50 an hour worth of work, but I'm only paying you $40 an hour, you're being exploited. And that's not a bad thing. That's not a bad thing. But if you are doing $50 an hour work and I'm paying you $10, that's a bad thing.
Monét X Change
And again, and some people may have felt like that some people, you may have agreed to a rate, whatever, and they're working for us, whatever, and they feel like, well, and they agreed to think that they've, that they've agreed to be paid for. Both parties said, yes, this sounds great to me, but at the end of the day, they walk away feeling like they're being. It is unethical because what, they're not being paid their value or it's not fair to them. Like, then we're not, quote, unquote, ethical in how we're doing our business.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't really think that we have. I don't. I really don't think we have their problem. There have been times where our workers have exploited us. We've talked about that. There have been times where they, where they made more than we made. And we've had that conversation. So I really. Exploding, no, I was being facetious, Monet, but in reality, I genuinely don't think that we have that problem. I genuinely don't think that you and I have that problem. Now there's a chance that we have employed a company who's exploiting people. So therefore, yes, we are taking part. Like, for example, I don't know. I do not know what they're paying people to make civil rivalry T shirts probably not a fair wage, but they're made stateside. So I don't know. Some of them may say side. I don't know. Actually. I don't even know where all the timber merch comes from. Assuming it stateside, because we ordered it and it comes pretty quickly.
Monét X Change
It was. It's from the States.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily. So there's a chance that we have hired a company to do stuff for us and they are exploiting their workers in a way that the workers really, really don't like it. But I really don't think that any of our direct employees are just like, I am.
Monét X Change
Our fans. Our fans are not from the states. Our fans are not from the states. So if we produce these fans that we are selling for higher buy, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you look back, we are unethical in how we have run our business because we did not do our due diligence to see where the thing that it came from would be very, you know, and make sure that it's made being made in an ethical way. So by. By that measure, by that metric, we're not ethical. We have now. We are. We are now an unethical company.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I don't think that our company is 100% ethical, but I also think it is practically impossible to want a 100% ethical company anywhere. Even like, for example, let's just say, for example, that we own a clothing business. And like, we make, like, for example, for House of Bob. All of those garments are made here in the United States. So they're made in Los Angeles by hand, which is why they cost as much. They cost because someone. Each one is made in Los Angeles by someone being paid a fair wage. Now, that being said, the fabric, I don't know where the fabric's made. I went down to. I went down to the garment district myself and grabbed that fabric myself. I didn't ask them where was this made. So, no, it's not 100 ethical because I don't know where the fabric was made at. You see what I'm saying? So I don't think that the goal is necessary. Like, like, when it comes to, like, your carbon footprint, the goal is not to have a carbon footprint of zero. The goal is to minimize your carbon footprint because you're going to have to get on a plane, you're gonna have to get in a car, you're gonna have to eat food, you have to turn your lights on, you're gonna have to, you know, use air conditioning, that kind of stuff.
Monét X Change
So I get the question, where do you, where do you draw the line of ethics? Like who draws that line? Who decides what company's ethical amount you draw it in?
Bob the Drag Queen
Billionaire. Billionaire.
Monét X Change
So, so a 999 millionaire is, is ethical. But once you get that threshold, that 1 million, that adds to it to become a billion, that means that you are now unethical.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, because what I'm saying is you can be unethical all the way up to a billionaire. You can be unethical all the way up there. But I'm saying is everyone on that side, Everyone on that side is unethical. Everyone on the billion side is unethical. And there are also people on this side who are unethical too.
Monét X Change
But I'm saying. But where, but who decides that?
Bob the Drag Queen
What do you mean? Well, I mean it's, it's each person, Each person decided what's ethical for them. Each person decides that on their own terms. But what I'm saying is every single person on the billion side is unethical. And there are some people on this side who are, who are, who are also unethical as well. But I don't think there's anyone on that side who's ethical. Not even one.
Monét X Change
So when Martha Steele was a billionaire, she was unethical. But when she now, she's now, she's now worth 400 million. Now she is ethical, she's probably still unethical.
Bob the Drag Queen
Again, there are unethical people on this side too. But what I'm saying is everyone on that side is unethical. All of them.
Monét X Change
Okay, so. So let's say you were ethical until you got to 999 million, right? You were ethical until that point.
Bob the Drag Queen
You wouldn't be ethical that far. You wouldn't be.
Monét X Change
You're not a billionaire. You're not a billionaire.
Bob the Drag Queen
Again, there are unethical people on this side, but everyone on the other side is unethical. So if you.
Monét X Change
But you're not. But I'm saying you're not on the other side yet. You're not on the other side. You're on this side and there are multiple people and there are, there's a gray zone.
E
He's saying there's a gray zone between 1 and $990,000 where there's a mix. There are people who are completely broken. Unethical. But he's drawing the line saying it becomes black and white, specifically here. And there is a gray zone that starts there and start goes.
Monét X Change
And what I'm saying, I'm the company. I am ethical. I am ethical. Ethical. Going climate all the way. I am ethical.
Bob the Drag Queen
You can't get that far and be ethical. You cannot. You can't make 999,000. You can't make 999,999,099 and be ethical. You can't do it. You can't.
Monét X Change
So is the line. 999 is the line 1 billion.
Bob the Drag Queen
The line is based on what you're, what you're doing. Like, the line is based on your ethics. The line is based on how you pay your workers, how you treat people. Do they have paid leave? Are they be. Do they get sick leave? Do they have maternity leave? That's where the line is. But I'm saying is, you can't be ethical and make it that far. You can't, because you.
Monét X Change
I understand, I understand. I'm just trying to find the line there, because we're saying one billion is what.
Bob the Drag Queen
It depends on what you're making, right? So if you're, if you're making T shirts, you could probably become a millionaire and be ethical with T shirts. But you cannot become a billionaire and ethically sell T shirts. Because, by the way, you don't cross into unethical. Once you get to a billion dollars, you're unethical all the way up there on the journey, you are doing unethical stuff on the journey, it becomes unethical. But once you. But, but what I'm saying is everyone on that side is indeed unethical. Like, for example, here's, here's, here's. Here's another thing I can say. It's probably fair to say that everyone who's over £400 is technically obese. Everyone, every single person over £400 is technically obese. That being said, there's someone who's over 200 pounds is obese, and there's someone over 200 pounds who's not obese. But there will come a point where it's. It's not great. There will come a point where it's not no longer gray.
Monét X Change
But that is a false equivalency because there is. There is. There is a measure like, like, there is. There is. It's like. It's science what causes obesity. There's not science.
Bob the Drag Queen
Sociology is a real thing. Ethics has, has measures. I'm not a sociologist, I'm not a scientist, so I don't know that. I don't know the measure. But, but there are measures for it. There are bureaus, there are international laws, there are ethics lawyers. There's measures for it. For sure.
Monét X Change
I get that. But. Yeah, but it's not. There's not. There's not. There's not a weight that determines if you are. There's not a weight number that determines if you are obese. There are. There are other factors that goes to that. Your height, your this and the other. So that's what I'm saying.
Bob the Drag Queen
A percentage thing and stuff. What I'm saying is there is no. You can't be over £400 and not be obese. It's not possible. It's not possible. You literally can't do it. But you can be over £200 and I feel beast.
Monét X Change
No, we've seen. I mean, four, maybe four, maybe not £400. But, I mean, that's like saying you can't be a thousand pounds. I mean, exactly.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's how absurd a billion dollars is. That's the point. £400 is a pretty big number. A billion is even bigger. A billion is even crazier. It's even crazier.
Monét X Change
But what I'm saying is that 400 pounds, like the race, the percentage of people who are 400 pounds. I mean, I even know.
Bob the Drag Queen
I would say the percentage of people over £400 is probably more than a percentage of people who are billionaires. I would venture to say I don't know the numbers for sure.
Monét X Change
Probably. Probably there are more people who are £400 than other people.
Bob the Drag Queen
£400 is like. I've met a few people who are £400. I haven't met that many billionaires. I've maybe met one and didn't know it.
Monét X Change
You think you met people who are over £400?
Bob the Drag Queen
I know I've met people. Eureka used to be £500. She said it on TV.
Monét X Change
Eureka. Hair was four, was £500.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's what she said on TV. She said she was £500. I have definitely met multiple people who are over. Who were over £400. Multiple.
Monét X Change
And you, Ed, you know a few billionaires.
Bob the Drag Queen
You met a billionaire. Madonna's not a billionaire.
Monét X Change
No, the girl that you. The girl that you fell in front of her and you tripped and you. And you spilled your hot chocolate on her dress.
Bob the Drag Queen
That was a bad girl. I spilled it on my own garment, not on hers. I spilled it on my garment, not hers. Let's be. Let's be. Oh, to quote.
E
There was some tech. There were some tech billionaires there.
Monét X Change
Yeah. So, yo, all the other people Bob talking about, he over there, schmoozing over there, knocking drinks with and kicking. Those are all Bob's contemporaries. He hanging out.
Bob the Drag Queen
Fully honest.
E
We spent that entire party just talking to Fortune Feimster.
Monét X Change
But, yes, likely story. But also likely story.
Bob the Drag Queen
Also, be fair. I also talk to criminals who are. Who are. Who are unethical. I have. I have spent time around. I have spent times around a lot of people who do things that I don't necessarily agree with. That doesn't mean that I'm like, oh, you're great for what you do. But, yes, I do socialize with people.
Monét X Change
My grandmother. To call my grandmother. If you wet the sponge, chances are you wet too.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I didn't wet their sponge. I didn't make them. I mean, I'm sure. Actually, I have contributed to billionaires because I have an Amazon prime account. So, yeah, I have contributed. So we're all. We're all. We're all wedding Jeff Bezos.
Monét X Change
I don't have an Amazon prime account.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're lying. I've been at your house and watched Amazon Prime. You're lying. Continue.
Monét X Change
You've been at my house and watch Amazon Prime.
Bob the Drag Queen
What?
Monét X Change
You watch in my house? Amazon Prime.
Bob the Drag Queen
He was watching you, Andy. We're trying to find that show. Whatever. The show was your business. And also, aren't you watching. Aren't you watching House of Villains that you spoiled?
Monét X Change
I just. I've just seen the clips online.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're lying. We know you. We also know your family are the billionaires of St. Lucia, but you're not slick. You're not slick. Jackie was running those cell phone towers. Were they ethical?
Monét X Change
I wonder if they. Lucy even has billionaires. I wonder.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, yeah, you wonder. Okay. You really threw us off the scent there, Monet. You threw us off the trail with that one.
Monét X Change
Anyway, well, on that note, it's time to go. This is a great conversation. I love, I love. I love. I love sparring with you. Talking with you about life.
Bob the Drag Queen
We did spar, but to be funny. It wasn't a. It wasn't even match. And I'm playing.
Monét X Change
Here we go. Please.
Bob the Drag Queen
Because you beat me up. Because you beat me up. You gathered me.
Monét X Change
Anyway. Anyway.
Bob the Drag Queen
When I used to have long hair, I never actually did the. The tug, which I regret now.
Monét X Change
The tug.
Bob the Drag Queen
I did do the tug. I did the tug.
Monét X Change
I know what that means.
Bob the Drag Queen
When you pull your hair up into a knot and then you pull it to make it tighter, you go, you tight. And then you go.
Monét X Change
You tighten that twist wig. The other day when we went to Wicked, it was actually really cute.
Bob the Drag Queen
You mean this one?
Monét X Change
Yeah, it looks really cute.
Bob the Drag Queen
Thank you. That's very kind of you. I got that wig done because Law Roach inspired me and I can't find my phone, but I'll make sure I post it to the chat, otherwise it'll never stop.
Monét X Change
You glue it. Do you like. Do you glue it? Glue. Glue it down?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I just put it on my head, walked out the door. Oh, ever Scissorhands. By the way, ever since I made that wig for me, I love Edward Scissorhands.
Monét X Change
What a great man.
Bob the Drag Queen
All right everyone. And this is the picture. This is Law Roach wearing the wig or. I don't think it was a wig. I think Law Roach had. Actually, I don't know where Law Roach had. Mine is a wig. I don't know what Law Roach has on has has on his head, but mine is a wig, so there's that. All right, bye everyone.
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Podcast Summary: Sibling Rivalry – "The One About Healthcare"
Episode Information:
The episode kicks off with Monét and Bob briefly mentioning that it was recorded just a day before the high-profile arrest of Luigi Mangione. This timely event sets the stage for their ensuing discussions on healthcare and corporate ethics.
Notable Quote:
Monét and Bob discuss the details surrounding Luigi Mangione's arrest at a McDonald's in Pennsylvania. They explore the circumstances, including the finding of firearms and a manifesto, and speculate on the public's reaction to his arrest.
Notable Quotes:
The conversation shifts to a broader critique of insurance companies, particularly focusing on Blue Cross Blue Shield's controversial anesthesia policy. Monét highlights the devastating impact of medical debt, citing that over 60% of bankruptcies in America are due to medical bills. They criticize the lack of ethical practices within the insurance industry and discuss how these companies prioritize profits over people's well-being.
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A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to debating whether it's possible to become a billionaire ethically. Monét argues that hard work is an essential component, drawing parallels with successful figures like Martha Stewart and Madam C.J. Walker. Conversely, Bob contends that exploitation is inherently tied to amassing such vast wealth, suggesting that achieving billionaire status often involves unethical practices.
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The hosts explore the gray areas between striving for success and maintaining ethical standards. They discuss the challenges of running a profitable business without exploiting employees and the difficulties in ensuring all aspects of their ventures adhere to ethical guidelines.
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Throughout the episode, Monét and Bob share personal anecdotes that illustrate their points about ethics, business practices, and the challenges of navigating the corporate world. These stories add depth to their arguments and provide listeners with relatable insights.
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Towards the end of the episode, Monét and Bob reiterate the importance of ethical considerations in business and healthcare. They emphasize the need for systemic changes to address the pervasive issues within the insurance industry and corporate practices.
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This episode of Sibling Rivalry offers a thoughtful exploration of complex issues surrounding healthcare and wealth, combining humor with critical analysis to engage listeners in meaningful conversations.