The One About Influencers

Summary

Sibling Rivalry: "The One About Influencers"

Date: November 11, 2024
Hosts: Monét X Change & (Guest host) Kim Chi
Main Theme:
A comedic deep-dive into influencer culture, free PR packages, influencer excesses, drag queen visibility in influencer marketing, memorable food experiences, and spicy recent scandals from the world of social media and beyond.

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Episode Overview

Monét X Change is joined this week by her close friend and RuPaul's Drag Race alum Kim Chi, as Bob the Drag Queen is away performing in Colorado. The conversation—or "kiki," as the duo puts it—spans from the nuances of influencer culture to the extravagance (and ethical dilemmas) of PR gifting, influencer versus celebrity, dramatic influencer scandals, the politics of drag in brand partnerships, and, of course, which city makes the best empanada. Throughout, Monét and Kim’s rapport is hilarious, candid, and reflective—peppering critiques on influencer culture with lived experience, personal anecdotes, and signature roast-readiness.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introduction & Catching Up [01:50–05:00]

• Bob is away; Kim Chi steps in.
  • Kim sports a fuzzy teddy coat and Naomi Smalls merchandise, joking about never receiving Monét's merch.
• Kim discusses LA’s cold snap and the trials of old buildings in California.
• Kim gives a spoiler-free review of the new "Wicked" film:
  • “It stays true to the original material, but they do little subtle touches here and there that makes it feel modern.” (Kim, 04:44)
  • “The chemistry between Cynthia Erivo and Ariana—chef’s kiss.” (Kim, 05:54)

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2. Time Travel Fantasies & Cultural Commentary [08:13–13:30]

• When/where would these queens want to time travel?
  • Monét: The present, the 70s, or the future—mainly for “the Internet, games, the drugs, and partying.”
  • Kim: Would take PrEP back to the '80s to “save the gays,” or go to September 10, 2001, to try to stop 9/11.
• Discussion of smoking flights, Concorde jets, and whether they miss airplane noise.
  • “Imagine being trapped in a fucking plane and the people just smoking. Oh my God, you probably came off that plane stanking.” (Monét, 12:23)

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3. Should You Show Your House? The Dangers of Flexing for Content [15:45–17:14]

• Should Monét do an Architectural Digest home feature?
  • Kim cautions: “You’re basically telling, like, robbers, ‘here’s what to take when you rob me.’” (Kim, 16:41)
  • “There’s nothing for you to gain out of, like, showing your house on AD, except to flex…” (Kim, 16:55)
  • Alyssa Edwards gets dragged (lovingly) as an “egomaniac” for her AD feature.

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4. The Realities of Influencer Gifting—Perks & Icks [18:04–25:16]

• Free stuff is everywhere—for celebrities and influencers.
  • Monét recalls Oscar and Emmy gifting suites: “You get nice fucking shit, y’all. Trips to go places, lots of free things…” (Monét, 20:17)
• Kim’s negative experience at a gifting event:
  • "There’s like, tier one, tier two, and tier three. If you’re in the top tier, you get nine clothing items for free. Last tier? Only one. It just gave me the ick." (Kim, 22:54)
• Commentary on the ethics of influencer freebie culture:
  • “You say you love lifting up mom and pop shops, but actually you’re kind of like taking advantage of them.” (Kim, 24:53)

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5. The Power (and Pitfalls) of Food Influencers [25:17–27:00]

• On Keith Lee’s viral effect:
  • “If Keith Lee comes and gives your restaurant a good review, people are gonna start lining down the block…that is fucking influence, bitch. That is power.” (Monét, 25:41)
• The double-edged sword:
  • “If he gives a not favorable review…It also creates a mob mentality. I’ve seen it happen to…businesses where they get bombed with bad reviews from people that haven’t even tried the restaurant.” (Kim, 25:52)
• On responsible reviewing:
  • “Keith will still leave a $1000 tip even if his review is negative…but he needs to be careful with the power he has.” (Monét & Kim, 26:23–26:44)

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6. Most Outrageous PR Packages: Waste, Excess, & WTF Moments [27:00–31:38]

• Kim was sent $100 cash with a random influencer product:
  • “There was literally just $100 in the package. I’m like, so if you’re sending $100 to all these people, why not at least warn me?” (Kim, 28:12)
• Gigantic Chipotle, Lizzo, and Doritos PR packages:
  • Monét: “Doritos sent a big ass pyramid for two dips and a spoon. The waste!” (Monét, 30:45)
• Melting ice cream debacle:
  • Kim: “I opened [the PR box] and there were literally like hundreds of bars of ice cream. All melted.” (Kim, 31:13)
  • “It’s a fucking waste, girl.” (Monét, 31:19)

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7. Food Faves & Empanada Debates [32:14–36:42]

• Empanadas coast-to-coast:
  • Kim’s LA pick: Hermano’s Empanadas
  • Monét’s NY favorite: Empanada Mama
  • “The outside shell might be same, but the inside filling is like a whole new world.” (Kim, 33:42)
• Kim claims: “Jamaican beef patties are better than empanadas.” (Kim, 34:23)
• Other cultural dumplings discussed: Korean mandu, Chinese dumplings, Caribbean patties—Monét suggests a video: “Trying every different culture’s empanada.”

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8. NYC vs. LA Influencer Vibes [36:42–40:49]

• Stereotyping the influencer types:
  • “LA influencers are so young, bright and chipper. New York influencers: more laid back and chill.” (Monét, 36:42)
  • Kim: "A lot of influencers are very shy and awkward in person, but turn on for the camera." (Kim, 37:22)

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9. Drag Queens in Brand Deals: Unequal Pay & Representation [40:49–42:51]

• The realness of marginalized creators:
  • “No brands want drag queens as influencers” (Kim, 41:20)
  • “A cis influencer will get $50 for the same thing a drag queen gets $10 for.” (Monét, 42:02)
• The ‘Bud Light’ turning point after Dylan Mulvaney controversy:
  • “Since then, brands realized it’s better for them to just hire a random straight celeb.” (Kim, 41:46)

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10. Influencer Content Icks & YouTube/Mukbang Drama [43:08–47:01]

• Stunt food & mukbangs:
  • “I hate stunt food. Like making fruit punch in a toilet bowl. Why?” (Kim, 43:54)
  • Mukbang queen JMT Juyoung’s dark story with abuse and blackmail surfaces. (Kim, 45:06–46:40)

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11. Food Obsessions & Asian Dumpling Escapades [47:29–49:28]

• How do people "forget to eat"?
  • “At night, I’m already thinking, ‘Oo, bitch, for lunch I’m going to get this…’” (Monét, 47:46)
• Gushing over Formosa Café & plans for more dumpling explorations.

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12. Omakase Overreaches: Culturally Appropriated Experiences [49:46–50:37]

• On pizza/coffee "omakase":
  • “Stop putting the word omakase where it doesn’t belong!” (Kim, 50:24)

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13. Inflated Coffee Culture & Disgusting Drinks [50:38–52:24]

• On Starbucks Reserve & olive oil coffee:
  • “If y’all think that’s different coffee, I have a Fortune 500 company to sell you.” (Monét, 51:03)
  • Kim: “Olive oil coffee—sometimes people just drank straight up olive oil.” (Kim, 52:08)

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14. Latest Influencer Scandals [52:27–55:08]

• Makeup drama: Mikayla vs. Black-owned brand Pimby.
  • “...Now everyone is accusing Mikayla of shading this black-owned business.” (Monét, 53:59)
• Policy on negative reviews:
  • “Unless they deserve it, I just don’t post if it’s going to be negative, you know?” (Kim, 54:00)
• Jeffree Star referenced as the exception to this rule—“he’s also MAGA,” adds Kim.

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15. Nicole Scherzinger, MAGA, and Broadway Backlash [55:08–59:27]

• Nicole Scherzinger liked a pro-MAGA post by Russell Brand
  • “She just, you know what? I don’t need those sixty fans. Let me just grift for no reason.” (Kim, 54:42)
  • “...When you post that you want this hat, you’re saying you’re a MAGA supporter. That’s what you’re signaling.” (Monét, 56:33)
  • Broadway community backlash: “If you want to see Sunset Boulevard, go on Tuesday—Nicole isn’t in it.” (Monét, 60:03)

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16. Final Recs and Upcoming Shows [60:46–61:18]

• Recommendations:
  • Jinkx Monsoon & BenDeLaCreme’s holiday show “phenomenal.”
  • Monét’s own touring show "Life Be Lifeping", final dates in NY and LA.

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Memorable Quotes

• “I’m so selfish. I want to go back and do drugs. Kim is like, ‘I want to heal people.’” – Monét (10:30)
• “If you’re just, like, a clothing one, if you’re, like, in the top tier, you can take nine clothing items for free…if you’re in last year, you can only take one.” – Kim (22:53)
• “You say you love lifting up mom and pop shops, but actually you’re kind of like taking advantage of them.” – Kim (24:53)
• “It’s a fucking waste, girl.” – Monét, on PR box excess (31:19)
• “No brands want drag queens as influencers. They’ll hire a cis influencer with less followers…” – Kim (41:20)
• “Stunt food…when you watch it you think it’ll be like, an actual recipe, but then they make something completely disgusting.” – Kim (43:12)
• “Food tells a history.” – Kim, reflecting on cultural food similarities (36:28)

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Engaging, Candid, and Insightful

Throughout, the podcast keeps up a punchy, irreverent, and intimately humorous tone. Behind the laughs are sharp commentaries on race, queerness, class, the power of digital celebrity—and a serious love of good food. For anyone wanting the tea on how influencer culture really works (from those who experience it firsthand), this episode is a hilarious, insightful must-listen (or must-read).

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For more:

• Monét’s tour dates: [Website Mentioned at 61:18]
• Recommended NYC Empanada: Empanada Mama, ask for the Viagra empanada!
• LA Food Tip: Hermano’s Empanadas, Pico Robertson for Caribbean eats
• Dumpling lovers: Hit up Formosa Café, Hoi’s Walk, and Kim’s secret LA spot

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End Note:
“Thank you, Kim. Thank you so much for coming and chatting with me…we just, you know, we’re obviously good friends… always nice to have you on the podcast. I just love you so much.” – Monét, [62:05]

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[B]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen. And I'm Monet X James. And this is Sibling Rivalry. On this week's episode, we find out who has the best empanadas.

[C]

We talk all about influencers.

[B]

And we find out what made Kim say this.

[C]

Actually, you're kind of like taking advantage of them. And we find out what made Monet say this.

[B]

It's a fucking waste, girl. All right, Sibling Rivalry listeners, y' all are in for a treat today because Bob is off doing well. I know where Bob is at and we gotta talk about it. Cause I'm very jealous. But fuck him, because we have my good sister Kim Chi on the pod. Hi, Kim.

[C]

How are you, love? So good to see you.

[B]

Good to see you, too. What is this sweater you have on? Or sweater or jacket or coat, whatever it is, it's cute.

[C]

It's just like a fuzzy little teddy bear coat. And then I'm wearing a Naomi merchandise.

[B]

Wow, you never wear, you know, you never wear Monet merchandise.

[C]

Telling you never gave me one, you never gave me one. Naomi makes sure to give me all of her merch, which you have yet to do.

[B]

Okay, I don't know if that's true. I've definitely given you merch before.

[C]

Even Bob gives me all of his merch, so. Very interesting. Very interesting. So you want me to buy your merch?

[B]

Are you having coffee at this time in the afternoon?

[C]

Well, it's decaf, but my house is really cold right now and I don't have heat because, you know, L.A. so this coffee, I'm not even drinking it. I'm, like, holding it for warmth.

[B]

The other day, so Kim and I, we're in a bunch of group chats. But one, we're in a Facebook group chat, and then she commented something in there. Oh, no, no, no, it wasn't in there. You commented Instagram. You was like, oh, my God, it's so cold here in LA. I was like, Kim, it's fucking 60 degrees, please.

[C]

For some reason, my building is one of those, like, old buildings where when it gets cold, it just stays cold and it doesn't get warm, which is great for summer because I don't need ac. But then, like, during the colder days, it gets really cold in my apartment.

[B]

Yeah. I'm very jealous because all the girlies are going to the Wicked premiere tonight, and I'm.

[C]

Were you invited to the Wicked premiere?

[B]

I was invited, but I am. I am. I am performing with the Colorado Opera, and tonight is opening night of our show, so I couldn't come back to LA to go.

[C]

Oh, I see. I was invited. I was invited to the early screening of Wicked yesterday. So I saw it. I saw that Sir Goldhouse who, you know, elevates, you know, Asian media and all Asian, like, media things. But I was not invited to the regular Wicked premiere.

[B]

Really?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Ooh, the shade. Yeah. What's also why. So all on my Instagram, I'm seeing all, like, Rob flew in. I had some other friends from New York that flew in for the thing. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm so jealous. Everyone has seen the movie before me. I'm so jealous.

[C]

Must be nice. But I will say this. I'm going to see Ato tonight. Our friend. Oh, that too. That is a street on its own. And as someone who's seen Wicked last night before anybody else, I'm gonna say this without spoiling. And can I. Can I be honest here? Can I become honest?

[B]

Girl? Be honest. Tell us, Kim, you've seen it. Tell us.

[C]

It was good. Oh, it was good. Cause what's so good about it? And again, I'm not going to spoil anything, but what's good about it is it stays true to original material, but they do little subtle touches here and there that makes it feel modern.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And you're gonna go. Have to. You're going to go see for yourself, obviously, because, you know, but it's great. It's worth watching. And the magic of, like, cinema, you know, you can create, like, visuals that you can't on a stage play right And I'm sure there's going to be people because like these like musical theater, Broadway like fans are like so snobby. So I'm sure there's gonna be aspect of it. They're gonna be like, well, in the Broadway they do this. And I'm like, well, it's not Broadway. This is.

[B]

It's a fucking movie, girl. It is. It is a movie. It's the movie adaptation slash reimagining of the. Of the Broadway show. Like that's what people don'. Like. And to your point, I think that's a good point. Like when you see these fucking movies come from Broadway to the movie, you can just add so much more, like so much more depth and so much more stuff to the story because you have movie magic. That's what I'm excited for, to see how they do it.

[C]

And the chemistry between Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Chef's kiss.

[B]

I know, but even like offline, like when you see them like on socials, all the things they're doing everything together, like they really seem to have really become like sisters during like the filming of this fucking movie.

[C]

And Jonathan Bailey is so sexy. I will say that he does not look like he should be enrolled in school. He looks like a teacher. But with that being said, he is very sexy and hot.

[B]

Is he playing Fiyero?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Jonathan Bailey. Let me see. I don't know who that is. What has he been in that?

[C]

I would know him from Bridgerton. You don't wish the Bridgerton love?

[B]

No, I've never seen Bridgerton.

[C]

Yeah. Why do you hate Shonda Rhimes? Let's talk about it with some captives.

[B]

I will watch. I just. You know what I don't like? I don't like.

[C]

Oh, you don't like diverse casting? I see. I see. That's crazy.

[B]

I don't like period things. Like, I don't. I don't like things that like set like super old. I don't like black and white movies. I don't like westerns. I don't like that period shit.

[C]

But that's why Bridgerton is different because they modernize it. And it's not a true period piece. So all the music are pop songs that you recognize done like in like a, like reinterpreted. So like when they're like dancing at the balls and things you see, like you hear like Miley Cyrus like Wrecking Ball done in like an orchestra like version.

[B]

Oh, really?

[C]

Instrumental.

[B]

Oh, that's interesting.

[C]

Actually super modern. And then the whole cast is cast like what's the term? Like, colorblind casting?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Or.

[B]

Yeah, colorblind.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, colorblind casting. So it's. It's great.

[B]

Very, very much like Brandi Cinderella, how she had.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

How the prince had a white daddy, a black mom, and he was Asian. Brandi. It was. Yeah. Interesting.

[C]

But also, I think you should give it a try.

[B]

I will. But when everyone talks about Bridgerton, they just talk about there's just so much sex. Everyone's like. They're just fucking all the time. Everyone is having sex and coming inside each other, the whole thing. I'm like, if I wanna watch just fucking, I watch porn.

[C]

But that's not the main focus of the story. It's about the romantic tension. And also, these are, like, rich nobles with nothing else to do. What else are they gonna do except gossip and have sex?

[B]

That's what I'm thinking. I'm like, yo, imagine being alive in, like, those times when, like, I have to say, I am so happy to be born in the time that I was the only time I would like to be born. Oh, two other times. So, like, currently being born today is obviously great. Cause we have so much. We have the Internet, we have games, we have electronic, like, shit. Like, I love that. I would have also liked to be born in the 70s because of the drugs and, like, the partying and that. I would love to be born in, like, I can imagine what the future's gonna be like, being born 50 years from now with, like, holograms and shit. But also the world is, like, kind of, like, getting fucked up. So maybe I don't want that. So I think now or the 70s are the two times I'd like to be born.

[C]

Well, honestly, like, if I could take a time machine, I want to go four years ahead, you know, like, let me, like, can I just skip, like, Trump's presidency and then, like, see, like, where we're at and then see, decide if I. If I want to, like, stay there or not.

[B]

Maybe.

[C]

Maybe I want to go back. Or maybe, like. But anyways, it's not. Let's not spiral into, like.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[C]

We're not gonna spiral.

[B]

We're not gonna spiral. The world is gonna be that Adam Sandler movie. A while ago, I think it was called Click, and he had a remote and he could, like, fast forward to his life. And, like, I was like, bitch, I wish I could do that right now. Fast forward four years.

[C]

Just four years. That's all I ask for, for next four years. And if I Could go back in time. There's one thing that I want to experience, obviously, like, you know, with the problem with, like, racism and, you know.

[B]

Right, right, right.

[C]

Ignore all that. I don't want to experience any of it. But I would like to take a bunch of prep and bring it to 80s.

[B]

Ooh, work. That would be fair.

[C]

AIDS epidemic.

[B]

You'd have to bring a fucking boatload for. How the fuck. Okay, if. Because let's say we do have this time machine, right? In theory, the time machine.

[C]

You give it to the scientists and the doctors.

[B]

Oh, right.

[C]

You get the formula to the doctors and scientists.

[B]

I'm so in my stupid mind.

[C]

I'm like, I'm not personally giving every gay, like, prep. No, but, like, you bring that technology and science to that time. Imagine, like, how many more gays would have lived.

[B]

I know. And imagine, like, the prolific artists and dancers and, like, artists, like, queer. Like, gay artists. We would. Like that we could. We would have been able to save from the late 80s, early 90s and what that would have meant for queerness. Now, like, shit will be completely different, girl. Like, shit will be so. My God, that's such a good point. See, I'm so selfish. I'm like, I want to go back and do drugs. Kim is like, I want to heal people.

[C]

And also, I would travel back to September 10, 2001, to possibly stop the 911 flight. I don't know what I could do, but I feel like I'll go back in time and I would, like, call the FBI or something, you know, but,

[B]

girl, but you gotta be careful. Cause that's. Then you start making time variances, Kim. So, yes, you stop that from happening. But what other catastrophic timelines are you creating that are gonna fuck us up now? Maybe you and I would be dead right now.

[C]

Well, at least maybe tell people to, like, hey, don't go into work. If you work at Twin Tower,

[A]

you

[B]

know, and then you end up out of yourself as, like, a time traveler. Then. Then. Then Kim is now evading. You have to commit espionage to hide from the government because they want to know how you found out.

[C]

Girl.

[B]

No, I'm keeping that. I'm keeping my mouth shut.

[C]

Okay, so there's one more thing that I want to go back in time for, and that is I quit smoking a long time ago. Like, I don't smoke anymore. But, like, the Pan Am times when people are smoking on a plane, like, I was born after that time, so I can't imagine what that would be like, where people were, like, getting on these Planes and getting these like nice meals and they're just like smoking non stop while drinking martinis.

[B]

That is crazy. I cannot believe.

[C]

Like a smoking plane. That sounds crazy.

[B]

That sounds insane. Imagine being trapped in a fucking plane and the people just smoking. Oh my God, you probably came off that plane stanking. Oh God, that sounds.

[C]

And I'm sure people are like chain smoking too because they're bored on a plane, right?

[B]

I wonder what, like, yeah, that, I mean, I've never been a smoker, so it doesn't appeal to me. But I mean, maybe even, even weed, I, I, I smoke weed here and there, but I would, I wouldn't even want to be locked on a plane with weed. Like, that just sounds, that doesn't sound fun to me at all.

[C]

Yeah, but I just want to go back and see for one day, like, let me just see what it's like.

[B]

Let me.

[C]

Oh, and do you remember when, when they had a Concord flight from New York.

[B]

Bring that up.

[C]

Yes. Like three hour flight.

[B]

Three hour flight, girl, that would change everything.

[C]

Everything.

[B]

And I mean, so Ty and I, who travels with me, we were talking about this the other day and I looked it up. They stopped the Concord. So for y' all young, young gen zers and maybe Gen Alpha's listening to this, they used to have the Concorde flight that could fly from New York to LA LA to New York in three hours. Right now it's about five and a half, six hours. That flight was three hours. Also New York to London was three hours. So like you could making that a three hour flight. That sounds insane. I wish they could bring it back. I want them to bring it back.

[C]

It's like, why wasn't that a thing after we got on Drag Race, you know?

[B]

I know. Well, apparently they stopped it because across the country a they were so loud and they would often break the sound barrier. So like when you're just sitting in your home, in whatever city you're in, you can hear the plane going by. Cause it's constantly shattering the sound barrier. And like there were like a few accidents, but I'm like, whatever, more people are dying. Fucking car crashes a year. Who cares if one or two Concorde flights crash a crash a year?

[C]

But also like most of that flight is over the water, so why does it matter?

[B]

Yeah, well, not, not the one from New York to L. A though.

[C]

Oh yeah. And always complain about the flight. Excuse me. This flight too loud. I live in New York and you know, I need a little peace and quiet.

[B]

I know. Yeah. Well, Bob and I were talking about this. The other. He was like, oh. And people in the comments try to get at me. I'm curious about this. What you think about this. I feel like, yes, now that I live in North Hollywood, I feel like I'm more conscious of airplanes, like, hearing airplanes. But when I was in East Hollywood or when I lived in New York, I don't have this constant. Bob is like, everyone, wherever you live, you're always hearing planes. Like in New York and in la, I was like, I don't think so. Do you hear airplanes all the time?

[C]

Not in my city, no.

[B]

Never. Right?

[C]

I don't even hear helicopters.

[B]

Well, in la, you hit them periodically because they always searching for somebody. Fucking la. There's always a copter searching for some fugitive in LA all the time. That's weird. But I was like, in New York, I don't remember hearing airplanes all the time. He's like, everyone in New York hears airplanes all the time. I'm like, I don't think that's true, but whatever.

[C]

But also, where you live right now is close to the Burbank Airport, right?

[B]

Yeah. Yes, you can hear. I hear airplanes there because I live literally super close to. Well, not that close, guys. I don't live that close to it.

[C]

So I guess being a homeowner is not all that it's cracked out to be.

[B]

I want to do so my publicist can get me an ad feature. Kim and Bob is like, don't do it. Do you think I should do my Architecture Digestive?

[C]

So, no, absolutely not. Because all the celebrities. All the celebrities that show their home on Architecture Digest are trying to sell their home.

[B]

Oh, really?

[C]

Yes. So that way, like, people see these videos and they're like, okay, like, this is, like, the relay of the home. So then people don't actually have to come into tour.

[B]

You.

[C]

Your home is freshly made. You have a lot of, like, nice things and nice furniture. And I know for a fact that you don't have, like, a personal security or anything.

[B]

You don't know what you think. I don't. Honey, they're watching y'.

[C]

All. No, you don't. So you're basically, like, telling, like, robbers, like, all right, when you rob me, these are the places where you're gonna go to, like, get these things.

[B]

That's what Bob said. Okay, I guess I'm not gonna do it, then.

[C]

You don't have, like, the means to protect yourself, and there's nothing for you to gain out of, like, showing your house on ad, except to flex on. Except to Flex on people. And you're better than that.

[B]

Damn, Kim. All right, you just got me together. I guess I'm not doing an ad feature.

[C]

I mean, when you're trying to sell your house, then do it, you know?

[B]

But, like, Alyssa Edwards did one.

[C]

Yeah, well, Alyssa is also egomaniac. I love her now.

[B]

I do love her. I do love her. I do. Listen, let's take a break and we'll talk more about these influences and their houses. Close your eyes.

[A]

Exhale.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

Visit 1-800-contacts.com today to save on your first order. 1-800-contacts. Okay, and we're back. Okay, so we're talking influencers today. Now, I have been. I have been to a few since moving to Los Angeles. I've been to a few, I guess, influencers and celebrity homes, and it's always super gaggy to me. I think the first celebrity or influencer home I went to was. Have you ever been there?

[C]

No, I'm not really friends with celebrities like you.

[B]

Bitch, please. Bitch, please. Kim, please don't act for these cameras. Kim is so full of it. So it's when I first moved to LA and it was a birthday party and I got invited and I was like, oh, wow. And apparently it's old house. So, yes, it was my first time being like a big mansion like that. I was like, this is wild. This is such a. It was so cool. It's so big and there's like a pool and all the things. I was like, wow. This is because in Los Angeles, people do house parties here a lot, whereas in New York, people go out a lot because no one's bringing people to their small ass fucking apartments. So when you have so in parties. I've been to la, they normally are house parties in New York, people are going out to the clubs. So that's why. That's how I get to see a lot of people's houses.

[C]

Yeah, I've been to some, like, ridiculous houses here. I'm like. And they're very, like, unsuspecting because, like, they're like in a regular neighborhood. And you go in and like, this is like a $20,000 couch. Oh my God.

[B]

It's $20,000 house. You mean 20 million dollar.

[C]

The $20,000 couch.

[B]

Oh, couch, yes. Yeah. Well. And then you realize oftentimes that they're get. Sometimes they're getting these from these co for free. Like, I could speak for myself. Like, I got some furniture in my house for free just because I had a publicist when I was renovating my house. And they just reached out to people and they were like, you know, would you give Monet. Monet is doing a renovation? Blah, blah, blah. Oh my God, we love Monet. Can we. We'll give her blah, blah, blah for free if we can. If she can do like a video or post about it later on. And I was like, sure. And so I got some really nice things from my home.

[C]

Where are they?

[B]

Locked away in the safe.

[C]

I was gonna say, I haven't seen these, you fucking bitch.

[B]

But sometimes you hear that. And I will say like. And that's what. I don't think people realize. Like influencers and celebrities, they've been getting a lot of shit for free. Like, I've gone to the Oscar gifting suite, which is the. I've been to the Emmys and the Oscars gifting suite, which is what you get invited to. Even though I've never been nominated for an Emmy or an Oscar for. I get invited to it and you get nice fucking shit, y'. All. Trips to go places, lots of free things. And the barter is, is that. So it's normally at a really nice hotel in New York, I mean, in la, and they take you around to all the. Like, each brand is posted somewhere up like three floors full of brands. And then you go to a thing, you have someone walking with you, collecting all your items for you. And then the brand gets to take a picture with you holding the item and like posing with the item. And then you get to take it for free. So the first time I went, I got so much nice shit. They even, you know, you know those big massage chairs you see at the airport, they were giving one of those away. But at that time I was at my old apartment, my, My old townhouse here in la. I didn't have anywhere to fit it. And it was. They were giving it to you for a year. You can have it in your home for a year. They would pay to deliver it, pick it up, you get to keep it in your home for a year. And I. But I just didn't do that. That was probably one of the most

[C]

expensive ones I've gone to One gifting event. And that event gave me such an ick that I. I just say, like, no to, like, gifting events now.

[B]

Wait, why the ick?

[C]

So they're like, they invited me, and I'm like, I've never been to one of these before. Let me just go check it out. Let's see, like, what it's all about. They're like, you can bring a plus one. And I was like, sure. So I got there, and then I checked in. They gave me a little bracelet and then, like, a bag to, like, guess, like, put stuff in when I get it. And then my friend, like, you know, reached out, too, and then they're like, oh, you just get a bracelet. You don't get a bag. And I'm like, can she just have a bag? I mean, it's just like a whatever bag, plastic bag. And you're like, no, she's in this third tier. It's a plus one. I'm like, tears. So then I realized, like, our bracelet had different colors. So then there's like, tier one, tier two, and tier three. And when we go in, there's all these, like, vendors, right? Just, like, giving stuff away. And if you're like. If you're just, like, a clothing one, if you're, like, in the top tier, you can take nine clothing items for free. But then if you're in second tier, you can only get, like, four. And then if you're last year, you can only take one.

[B]

That's wild.

[C]

Every single booth had, like, tiers like that. So then I felt like, okay, like, this is really, like, gross. Kind of like, if you're gonna do a gifting event and have people bring them, like, when I treat everybody equally. So then now it feels like my friend is, like, less than me.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I mean. And again. And I guess the purpose of this is that they think that you post about it and tell more people about it and shit, and, like, about the brands. But, like, I'm just so also curious. Like, I just. I guess since I've been on Drag Race, that's when I've been aware of influencer culture. But I feel like influencing is, like. I would say influencing. I mean, again, obviously, influencing has been along around for a long time, right? Celebrities have always been given things and using them to influence the public to purchase them. But I feel like the big, like, big business of influencing, like, because of social media has gotten, like, crazy. Like, influencing is such an interesting concept to me. And I. I guess just because since I've had Public awareness. And I've been a public figure. I've realized how fucking big influencing is.

[C]

And also, I feel like a lot of the content creators, when they start out, they're very, like, genuine about their content initially, right? They're like, when they review product, they, like, pay with their money, and then they review it and they eventually, like, gain followers. And a lot of times, like, after they gain followers and they won't post anything unless they're getting paid, right? Even, like, you know, like, for briefly, I was doing, like, restaurant reviews just for fun, just to make it big star content, just, you know, like, out of, like, hobby. And then from then, I was, like, hanging out with, like, I just randomly started crossing paths with a lot of these, like, food influencers and hanging out with them. And a lot of times, like, it was kind of almost, like, predatory, like, how they're treating the restaurants. Like, when they go in, they, like, order all this food, don't leave a tip. And then, like, maybe they'll post, like, one Instagram story, but then, like, if they're getting paid, then they'll do, like,

[B]

slide on. Slide on. Slides.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. And I'm just like. And then they're always like, you know, we love, like, lifting up, like, you know, like, mom shop businesses. And I'm like, you actually, you're kind of, like, taking advantage of them. You know, you're going to these struggling businesses and getting, like, whatever you can for free, and then see, like, what you can get. I don't know, it just give. The whole culture, like, gave me the ick. And I was like, I'm going to stop doing this because I don't want to be associated with any of this.

[B]

Well, Keith Lee is a big one. Keith Lee is probably the biggest food content creator influencer that I know of. And, like, Keith Lee had, like, throughout his career so far, like, he has literally reinvigorated businesses. And I'm like, how did he get. How did he become so fucking influential? Like, it's crazy when restaurants hear that Keith Lee is coming to Atlanta. Like, they're on their P's and Q's, hoping he'll come to the restaurant. Because if Keith Lee comes and gives your restaurant a good review, people are gonna start lining down the block for your restaurant. I'm like, that is fucking influence, bitch. That is power.

[C]

But also, I've seen the opposite side of it, where, first of all, I love Keith Lee. I think his reviews are phenomenal. I think he's a very important person in the industry. But then Also, we have to recognize, like, the power that he has where if he gives the restaurant like a not favorable review, as honest it is, it also creates like a mob mentality of people trying to, like, cancel this restaurant. Like, you're done, you're done. Like you're over. And I've seen it happen to, like, other businesses where they get bombed with bad reviews from people that haven't tried the restaurant. If they're. Keith says something like, unfavorable about them.

[B]

Yeah. But also he always make it a business. When he does go to these places, he will, like, leave. Like, even when he does bad service, when he gets bad service and. Or he doesn't speak super favorably of the business, he will still leave like a thousand dollar tip and like all these things to like, hopefully help the waiters, the wait staff out or whatever to make it a little better, you know.

[C]

Yo, for sure. I mean, he's definitely important, like, person in industry, and I appreciate, like, what he does. I just, you know, just. But he's at the point where he just needs to be a little more careful about, like, what he says about each places, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I feel that because people are messy.

[B]

100%. 100%. What is. What is the craziest PR package you've ever gotten?

[C]

Oh, my God. There's so many. There's one that I got recently and I felt really weird about it that I didn't even post it. So it's a product from this influencer who actually is in some, like, big controversy right now. I'm not gonna say his name because I'm not trying to start drama. And he sent me. They or this brand has sent me a package before, so they had my address, but this time I just got another package from them. Like, you know, because normally, like, sometimes Brent would be like, I'll be on the lookout. We sent you another one, you know, but this one just, like, right at my door. Without, like, any warning, I opened it up. Inside was a product and. Hundred dollars in cash.

[B]

$100 in cash.

[C]

$100 in cash. Just like. And it wasn't like the product had nothing to do with cash. There was just $100 in cash in the package.

[B]

Is that supposed to be like an incentive to you to post about it?

[C]

I. It didn't say anything like that. There was literally just $100 in the package. And I'm like, so if you're sending $100 to all these people, why don't you at least say, like, hey, there's an important package Coming. Like, be on the lookout. Something, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Not just, like, randomly sending me a hundred dollars in cash.

[B]

Interesting. And then.

[C]

And you know, like, a lot of drag fans know, like, my saga, Chipotle.

[B]

Oh, God, I'm so jealous. Does Chipotle still take care of you?

[C]

Oh, they took your Mary. And then some. And also. But then one time they sent me a PR package that was, you know their Chipotle chip bags?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, the chip bags. Yeah, like. Like the ones you get chips. Yeah. Huh.

[C]

They sent me a life size of that one, but it was eight foot tall to the point where I couldn't even get it in my door. And I couldn't move it by myself. And I'm like, what was inside of it? Inside of it were, like, hoodies and clothing like they were releasing. So it was very cute. But I'm like, I can't even throw this out myself because it's so big and heavy.

[B]

Eight feet tall. That's insane. Well, here's the thing. When Brand sent these crazy PR boxes, I'd be like, girl, the money. The amount of money it costs to make this promo box. I think some of the biggest ones I got was Lizzo Giddy sent me a promo box. And it was literally like a fucking chest. Like, it was a big purple chest. I would say, like, maybe.

[C]

Oh, I got the same one. It was like, the purple one. The purple one. Yeah, I got the same one. It was huge. Huge.

[B]

A huge ass chest. And then you open it up and it has, like all these compartments and drawers and shit. I was like, this is crazy. And then another one I got Doritos. The pyramid. Did you get this one from Doritos?

[C]

Doritos? No.

[B]

They were doing, like, they were debuting a new dip or a new sauce like that. So they sent a big ass pyramid that's maybe like. It was maybe like 4ft tall and like a pyramid. So it was fucking wide. And I was like, oh, my God. I wonder. Like, in my mind, I'm like, oh, there's like three or like four or five bags of Doritos in here, y'. All. That big ass thing for two dips, a cool ranch one and a nacho cheese one and like a golden spoon. And I was like, oh, my God, the waste. Like, no shade. I love Doritos. Thank you so much for the PR box. But I was like, it's a big ass pyramid for just these two dips and a golden little spoon. I was like, that's a little wild.

[C]

This one time, this ice cream Company that I never get my address to sent me a giant PR package when I was traveling. I don't. I'm also being like, these. Some of these companies, like, share the address with other brands or something. I don't know. Yeah, I come home after being away for the weekend, working, and I see this giant ice cream box and I'm like, oh, my God, when did this get here? And I opened it up and there was literally like hundreds of bars of ice cream all melted.

[B]

Shut up.

[C]

And I'm like, this is so insane. It's such a waste.

[B]

It's a fucking waste, girl. Well, you know, I have a really weird thing with ice cream bars because when I found out. Did you know the Nestle drumsticks? You know, the classic drumstick with the.

[C]

But they don't melt.

[B]

They don't melt. Why don't they melt, Kim?

[C]

Because it's not ice cream.

[B]

I'm not eating that shit.

[C]

But you eat Doritos.

[B]

Yeah. What? Doritos. They. They don't melt and they're not supposed to.

[C]

I've seen you drink Mountain Dew, Baja Blast. You think that's real liquid?

[B]

Kim had a. Kim had a game night at her house one day. I was going to be late. Bitch. And then I come over the game. I walk in with my. My bag of Taco Bell and my. My juice. And I didn't offer anyone any of my.

[C]

No. We also had a lot of food there, so everybody was already full.

[B]

There was so much food. Well, you. You got us. You got us empanadas from that place. That was so good.

[C]

Hermano's empanadas, they're like handmade empanadas, like, made to order. They're phenomenal. If you're in la, look them up. They're empanadas. So good.

[B]

Okay, now here's a. Here's a. Here's a million dollar question, Kim. Who's taking it? Hermanos empanadas or Empanada Mama? What's good?

[C]

They're completely different. You can't compare apples to oranges. You know what?

[B]

Ah, her fucking pageant. Answer, Kim, please.

[C]

Okay. Hermano's empanadas.

[A]

Really?

[B]

No. Empanada Mama is top tier. They're superior. Remember when I first brought you to Panada Mama?

[C]

Oh, no, no. Yeah, you. So Bob was the first person to tell me about it, but he's like, oh, Empanada Mama's my favorite restaurant, but it burnt down. And I was like, oh. And then I was on New York for, like, a tour during Work the world. And you're like, you gotta go to empanada mama. I'm like, they're open again. It's like, girl, go there. Get the Viagra empanada. Trust me on this. And I did. And now I get the Viagra empanada from empanada mamba every time I'm in New York.

[B]

So you still say hermano's over mama.

[C]

But see, it's completely different because hermano's like, classic, simple empanada, where, like, beef and chicken and then empanada mama's, like, different seafood. The cheeseburger.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, it's just completely different. Like, the outside shell might be same, but the inside filling is like a whole new world.

[B]

There's also Nonna's empanada. It's on third. It's right by the Beverly Center.

[C]

Yes. I don't like Nonna's, really? The shell, maybe, like, just every time I've had it, the shell has been, like, cold and stale.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Because they do like that platting around the rim of it, and it's like. Yeah, I agree. I agree. I don't. I don't love the shell. And I've tried a lot of their flavors, and there's only. They have, like, 20 different flavors, but I only like, like, two of them, which I'm like, that's not a good. What's the word ratio? But, you know.

[C]

Yeah. You know what's better than empanadas?

[B]

What?

[C]

Jamaican beef patties.

[B]

Well, I mean, I will. Okay, I have to take you to the best Jamaican beef patty I found here in la, because, you know, one thing I will say about the West Coast, I love living in Los Angeles. I love living here. But there is. There is not a lot of West Indian Caribbean food. Like, there aren't a lot of places, but I. Bitch. I found one that has, literally, Kim, the most perfect flaky crust, great seasoned beef inside, and it's on Santa Monica. I'm gonna take it to get beef patties there.

[C]

You know, if you go to, like, Pico Robertson, there are so many Caribbean, like, Jamaican restaurants on that street.

[B]

Pico Robert, let me just write that down.

[C]

Pico Robertson, like, in Mid City area. Yeah, there's a lot of, like, Caribbean Jamaican restaurants, and they're really good.

[B]

I'm always on the hunt because I love Caribbean food, and it's just not. I've never. I've been to, like, four places here in la, and I'm like, this is not good. So I'm gonna try.

[C]

Oh, Girl, let me take you to my spot. You know, you take me to your spot and I'll take you to my spot. How about that? We know Caribbean Day.

[B]

Deal. Well, here's the thing. So beef or meat inside a flaky crust is clearly something that goes, like, through different cultures. Right? Like, Puerto Ricans have their own dumpling, you know? Okay, I'm about to say. So what is the Korean version of, like, a beef patty?

[C]

Beef patty. Probably like an empanada. Chimpanzee.

[B]

Chimpanzee.

[C]

Chimpanzee. Yeah.

[B]

Okay. And it's like a flaky thing with them with meat inside of it. Yeah, got it.

[C]

And there's also Hotteok. There's also Mandu.

[B]

Mandu. Okay. I want to do, like a. I want to do a YouTube video about that. Like, trying every different culture's, like, empanada thing. Because I find it so interesting, like, the world and culture and food, like, obviously there's so much that separate. And this sounds so fucking pageant, whatever, but there's so much that separates us but throughout food, like, every. Every culture has their version of a thing that we all do, which I find is very interesting.

[C]

I feel like it's, like, a very cheesy thing to say, like, in the food space. But, you know, food tells a history.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, food tells you about, like, how people live. Food tells you about how people, like, nourish, you know? Yeah, just like, there's so much, like, history that you can tell just from, like, the food culture.

[B]

Yeah, I agree. What do you think is the difference between New York City and LA influencers? I have my thoughts about LA influencers versus New York influencers. I find it to be very. I find it to be very stark. I feel like LA influencers are so, like, young. Young and bright and cheesy, whereas New York influencers, I feel they seem to be a little more, like, reserved and kind of, like, cool. The word is not cool. Because I think LA influencers are cool too. Especially, like, their brand of influencing. But I just feel like New York influencers, a little more laid back and chill as opposed to LA influencers. Like, young and bright and chipper and sunny and like. Yeah, look, look, look. Like, look at a day in the life of me going to the dot. Like, it's very.

[C]

That. Yeah, I guess I've never met too many New York influencers, so I can't really speak on that. But at least just once I see social media. But also, like, you never gauge an influencer by, like, their online Persona. Because so many of them are just so different off camera. Like, a lot of them, from my personal experience, a lot of are very, very shy and awkward in person. 100% like, and then they turn to the camera and they're like, hi, you guys. You know, but. And then they're like, they can't even say hi to you.

[B]

Yeah, well. And, like, I look maybe just my algorithm and I talk about this. I do on my show. Monet talks, like, when I talk to, like, Bowman and some other influencers on there. And I find it so interesting how very different all of our for your pages are. Cause I was talking to him about my for your page. I'm like, well, these are the people we talked about, the top five people on our for your pages. And I was like, I have this, this, this, this. And on my for your page, these are people with, like, huge tens of millions of followers. But on his, they're completely different, and they also have tens and millions of followers. So it's like the fucking social media scape is so fucking big. It honestly feels like the galaxy, like the universe. Like, there's just an it unending influences. There's just so many people out there with so many, so many fans, and we don't even know them.

[C]

That's true. And that's how I kind of feel like, I feel about, like, how this election went down. I feel like, have I been living in this, like, liberal bubble? Because everything I see in social media is, like, anti Trump. Like, Kamal is going to win. And then obviously that's not how it went down.

[B]

I know.

[C]

And then, like, from everywhere, anywhere. That's like, not in, like, the progressive circle. It's like, oh, we all totally saw the coming. Like, this race is not even closed. And Kamala's, like, made so many bad moves. I'm like, to me, Trump is making, like, nothing but bad moves, girl. You know?

[B]

Yeah, I agree. I was talking to our producer Jay about this. Like, I was like, on my Twitter, which is obviously a very. I mean, I am a super. I'm a super liberal. I am a fucking black drag queen, bitch. And like, on my Twitter, on my for your page, I was getting nothing but Trump ads. And I'm like, there's no way that shit is for me. Like, there's nothing I am liking posting that would warrant Trump ads. I can count on maybe two fingers. So that means two. The amount of Kamala ads I saw during this whole past year versus the, like, daily. A different Trump one I would see on my Twitter for You page. It was kind of crazy.

[C]

Yeah. So but maybe I just need to like log off online and just not. You know, I thought we had this election in the back and I was completely wrong.

[B]

I know, but so to the New York influencers, I feel like the New York influencers I see on mine, they're like, they're like, they'll do like a day in the life thing but it's more like the day in the life of like a sugar baby and like how I like fashion. Whereas LA influencers seem to be like more lifestyle and like shit like that. I feel like that's the again, maybe that's just my for you experience. No, no, that's what I get three pages because.

[C]

And also in LA there's so many different pop up events or brand event that happens here all the time that some of these influencers, their content just all going to these different events. Like oh, I'm going to just sample sale for this and the line was four hours long and blah blah, blah. The skin bearer enhanced launching event for this and this and all of their content is just about basically being a socialite.

[B]

Yeah. I do get jealous of those influencers who get invited on these trips. Like I feel like, like, like Jackie Aina like she like went to like Cannes, they like invited her to go to Cannes for a thing. All these influence goes go on these like brand trips somewhere. I'm like that seems so. I've never, I've never been offered a brand trip by a, by a brand for any influencing.

[C]

But you know what? And we probably won't going forward because no one is like, no one, no brands wants drag queens as Right.

[B]

Why is that? Can we talk about it? Why is that?

[C]

It's just people would hire assist influencer with less followers than like a famous drag queen.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[C]

Especially like this political climate. I think the turning point was like the whole like Bud Light drama since then.

[B]

Oh, Dylan Mulvaney.

[C]

Yeah. And we're not blaming Dylan.

[B]

Yeah, not. No, not at all. Yeah.

[C]

No, but just like that was like the point where just like a lot of friends were like instead of like giving our money to like trans and like drag like creators, it's just better for us just to hire like a random like CIS straight celebrity, you know?

[B]

Yeah. But even like, cause you know we have friends and influencing and like sometimes you know, again we don't discuss your numbers but when people hang out you're like, oh yeah, like a brand gave me like these are just random numbers. Yeah, this, this brand gave me like, $10 to do the sings, and then you're a drag queen or a trans person and another person being like, really, girl. They gave me like, $50 to do this thing. And that person's like a cis person. Like, cis, you know, not drag. I'm like, that. Like, even the numbers be so crazy how different they're willing to pay drag queens and trans folk as opposed to.

[C]

Yup.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I guess it is the political climate and it's interesting. Getting more work from going forward is going to be even harder.

[B]

I know, I know.

[C]

So. So kill me. To the new drag race queens going on newer seasons. Good luck.

[B]

Is there any kind of content you find cringy?

[C]

So many.

[B]

Well, I used to. I was. I would make some things and I would like to. Bob. I'm like, bob, this is so cringe. He's like Monet. Part of being a millennial making content is being cringy. So just be cringy and post it.

[C]

No, see, when people do, like, skits and things, I don't mind those. I think they're like, whatever. Like, you know, you do you. You know. I hate stunt food content, where when you watch it, you think it's going to be like an actual recipe video, but then like, they make something completely disgusting where it's like, it's always like a sheet pan, like aluminum sheet pan with, like, pasta. And then they pour, like, blocks of cheese and. Yeah. So much food. Making these, like, non recipes.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, I hate those. Or they're like, oh, we're gonna make, like, fruit punch in a toilet bowl. And I'm like, why?

[B]

Why?

[C]

It's not entertaining.

[B]

Okay. I didn't know the name of it. Stunt food. Yeah. That is. I feel like there was a. There was a wave of that when it was crazy. It would be like they were like a sheet pan. They put, like, uncooked pasta and put cheese on it, then roll it up in dough, then fry the dough, then put it in a thing. And like, no one's fucking eating that, yo.

[C]

Or. Or like mukbang content, where they, like, pour sauce over everything and they're like, eating it, like, all dripping down. And I'm like, oh, the. Like, I'm someone who, like, loves food, and I do not want to see that.

[B]

Yeah, Mukbang. Well, I remember when. Well, mukbangs were like, something that I would watch sometimes by some of my favorite influences. Right. It just got crazy, and everyone just started doing mukbangs. And I'm like, girl, no one wants to see. No Fucking mukbang with no goddamn chick fil a. Like, what are you doing? Who wants to watch that?

[C]

Yeah, no, like, give me like, an interesting mukbang, right? But then. Oh, my God, you know. Did you hear about the Korean mukbang Jiang?

[B]

No.

[C]

This is like, insane. So she's probably the biggest mukbanger, like, in the world, right?

[B]

Huh?

[C]

The biggest. Like, she has no.

[B]

What's her name?

[C]

JM T Z U Y A N G.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

But it turns out.

[B]

Oh,

[C]

this is like such a long song. I don't even know where to begin. Basically, her ex boyfriend took, like, videos of, like, her, like, secretly and have been blackmailing her. So every earning that she's made from, like, her, like, videos of millions of followers, like, millions of dollars, he basically, like, took it all. And then he's been beating her every day.

[B]

Beating her, like, physically beating her, like, physically beating her.

[C]

And then people saw, like, bruises and stuff, like, you know, like in our videos. And it', like, oh, I'm clumsy. But anyways, so she collected enough evidence, tried to sue him, but then he ended up killing himself.

[B]

Jesus.

[C]

But, but then these other youtubers, these Korean YouTubers found out about this from his lawyer, and then they've been blackmailing her all this time about her, like, getting beaten and all that. So then she finally, like, had to come out with, like, all of this, like, information because she didn't want to be blackmailed anymore and paid him, like, these, like, crazy amounts of money. And then she had to play like, all these, like, clips of her, like, that she recorded where, like, her getting beaten by this guy, like, every day. It's so sad.

[B]

Okay, so I'm on her thing and, like, she posts on her YouTube page. She posts a video pretty much every two days, it looks like.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

How? There's no way when people do these mukbangs, you're not really eating all that food, are you?

[C]

She does. She does. She's like, proven, like, many times that she actually eats all that food.

[B]

And how does she say, so skinny.

[C]

She's just built differently. She's not. Some people are just built differently, you know, like, for me, I smell food and I get bloated, girl.

[B]

Like, how do you maintain such a physique and eat so much? Like you're eating tens of thousands of calories.

[C]

Yeah, I know. It's a mystery. We all want to know. Please tell me the secret.

[B]

Well, it's also when I meet these people who have, like, I forgot to eat today.

[C]

Never. Yeah, never. That has never Happened to me, girl. Or if people are like, oh, I didn't have time to eat, I'm like, I'm sorry. No matter how busy we are, you

[B]

can find time to eat. Like, I. It blows my mind when people are like, oh, I forgot to eat today. I didn't eat. Like, I'm like, girl, no shade, bitch. The night. When I go to bed at night, then going to sleep, I'm thinking about, ooh, bitch for lunch. I'm going to get this already the next day. Like that shit. My brain is wired.

[C]

Food noise, girl.

[B]

I'm like, ooh, yeah, okay, bitch, today I had Formosa Cafe for lunch, but bitch, tomorrow for lunch, bitch. I'm get me to like. I'm already planning out my meals for the next day.

[C]

Well, you like Formosa Cafe?

[B]

Girl, I love Formosa Cafe. You don't like it?

[C]

I've never been.

[B]

Oh, I got. It's such good Chinese food. It's good before. My favorite LA Chinese food used to be, which I still like. Hoi's Walk. They used to have a location on Sunset and La Brea, but it burned down. So then they moved to a place on third, kind of by Nona's thing. So it's a little far. But for most, I go for most of the time.

[C]

You know, if you're willing to, like, go to SGB one day, I want to take you to Hanging Food Court where they make this best, like, juiciest dumplings.

[B]

Ooh, well, you know, I tell people all the time, those fucking dumplings that used to be outside. Well, not used to be. I feel like that place is gone. But when we went to South Korea, outside trunk, that dumpling place. Oh, my God.

[C]

So good, right?

[B]

We went to South Korea. We were there for a week. I went there every day and they were 24 hours. So I would, like, leave my hotel like 2 o' clock in the morning and go get those dumplings.

[C]

Those dumplings are so good.

[B]

So fucking good, bitch. Zarus. So good.

[C]

I found a place in LA that makes dumplings very much like those.

[B]

Kim, why you holding out, though?

[C]

You won't return my tax.

[B]

That is a lie. That is a lie. Yeah, I want to go there also. I always tell people about also when we went to South Korea and Minnie took us to that crazy sushi experience.

[C]

Oh, yeah, the omakase.

[B]

Yeah, omakase. Omakase.

[C]

Omakase is so popular, like, everywhere now. So you can get omakase anywhere. Except. So, you know, like, omakase means, like chef choice, right? So Then, like, you know, the chef serves you, like, each course. Now they're trying to, like, colonize it.

[B]

Oh, God.

[C]

I saw a pizza omakase.

[B]

No.

[C]

And coffee omakase. And I'm like, yo, you can't just, like, take a random thing, put the word omakase in it, charge like, 150 and start pieces like, slice of pizza. Like, that is like, I will not stand for this. Stop putting the word omakase where it doesn't belong.

[B]

This is a PSA from Kim. Stop that shit. Stop it, girl. You know. You know, if the. If there's anything they will do, people will. These people will fucking colonize an experience, girl. And try to make money off of that shit is crazy.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's also. When I see people, I don't. Again, I'm not a coffee drinker, like we talked about at the top of this. And which also. Which I don't understand decaf coffee. Because if you're not drinking it to get caffeinated. And why drink coffee?

[C]

Because we like the flavor and the scent.

[B]

Got it. Okay.

[C]

You know, some people don't like Mountain Dew, but some people drink it.

[B]

Yeah, that's fair. That's fair, that's fair.

[C]

Some people, you know, don't like Sprite.

[B]

I don't. I don't. I don't understand Starbucks reserve. I'm like, if y' all think that's different coffee, I have a. I have a Fortune 500 company that I need to sell you.

[C]

Is it not different coffee?

[B]

I mean, I don't have the proof that it's not.

[C]

I mean, I haven't gone to Starbucks in, like, years.

[B]

Oh, really? You don't drink Starbucks?

[C]

Well. Cause I brew coffee at home.

[B]

Got it, got it, got it, got it. Yeah. Starbucks reserve is like. And I've only seen one. I've. No. I've seen two locations before. There's one, like, in Seattle. No, in New York on, like, 14th street by the Google thing. There's a big Starbucks reserve there. And I'm like. And the coffee's, like, $5 more than regular Starbucks. And I'm like, like, just for some coffee, girl. That is wild.

[C]

But yeah, yeah. Do you remember when Starbucks was doing, like, this, like, olive oil coffee, like, few months ago, and everyone was, like, up and roar because they said it was, like, the nastiest thing ever.

[B]

Olive oil coffee doesn't even sound good. That. That just sounds nasty.

[C]

Apparently. It was just literally, like, coffee with, like, olive oil in it. But then sometimes, like, they'll put too much olive Oil. So just like a. You're drinking, like straight up olive oil.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And then also like coffee, you know, like, makes me shit like crazy. So I can't imagine, like adding pure oil on top of all that.

[B]

God, is there. Do you. Do you stay up on. On. On Influencer Beef? I think Influencer Beef was really big on YouTube. Then it chilled for a little bit and now there's always some Influencer beef on fucking TikTok.

[C]

Now it's like if you did not live through the 2018 influencer, like, drama era, that was wild. I feel like I was like someone in the makeup company was always being, like, ousted. Like someone was always getting a fight with someone. There was a wild time.

[B]

Well, now the new one is apparently. I saw this last night. Doom scrolling on TikTok. Mikayla, the makeup girl talks like this and she had the crazy face. Her. She's in trouble with this. Or there's this brand called pimby with this African.

[C]

I saw that where she like, swatches it, but then she doesn't, like, swatch it properly.

[B]

Yes. So this brand, pimby, this woman, she makes this makeup palette and she swatches it and it has this, like, the pigment and the payoff is apparently really good. It can go like up her entire arm and you can see the color. Right. So the Mikayla got it, the thing. She's like, I got this thing. I'm gonna try it out. And then she swatches it and then it goes like this far. And she was like. And she was like, I heard that they use Vaseline or something. I don't know. And then so the person clapped back, she, like, individually, she takes a makeup wipe, she cleans her fingers, her arm, to prove there's nothing on her fingers, and she does it. And now everyone is accusing Mikayla of trying to, like, you know, be shady to this black owned makeup business.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

I know.

[C]

It's always a thing. At least, like when I was like, making like those kind of, like, reviews. Unless, like, they deserve it. You generally, like, don't post, like, any content if it's going to be like, negative, you know?

[B]

Yeah. But I mean, unless you're Jeffree Star. That's how people go to Jeffree Star, because they feel like they're gonna get the real tea regardless.

[C]

He's also MAGA and.

[B]

Oh, is he? Well, of course that should. Why am I shocked by that, actually,

[C]

for Nicole Scherzinger, girl.

[B]

Okay, so before we end this podcast, let's give Ms. Scherzinger a little A little screen time.

[C]

Okay, first of all, 95 of her, like, audience is gay, right? And woman, right? Like, ain't no straight men seeking out Nicole Scherzinger for music. You know, she had, like, 60 fans. And then she just like, you know what? I don't need those 60 fans. Let me just, like, grift for no reason.

[B]

Well, allegedly she supported Obama when he ran. So she might not be maga, but she is, like, super religious. So her religious views around abortion and things have pushed her to. So what happened? The whole thing that made this all boil over was that Russell Brand, who was a notorious maga, the fucking British comedian, dude, he is maga. Maga.

[C]

He's also, like, accused of, like, sa.

[B]

Sexual violence. He sure has. Mm. He who is formerly. He used to be with Katy Perry, right? They used to date.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Former Katy Perry. He posted a thing with a hat. And Nicole Scherzinger commented like, oh, that's an awesome hat. Where can I get it? Some comment like that.

[C]

It's like, first of all, she had no business going on, like, Russell Brand's Instagram, why, girl?

[B]

Why post that? And again, if you're saying you want to make America great again hat using deductive reasoning, we're thinking, oh, you're doing it because you want to cause. The red make America great hat signifies that you believe that you are a MAGA supporter, that you support Trump and you believe in their ideals. Right. When you like, that is what that. That signal is to people, to other people. When you see that, when I see people with it at the airport, when I see people walking in the street, when I see people within the videos, that's what you're saying that you're aligning yourself with. Right? So we're not crazy because she put out a statement on her Instagram, in her Instagram story, saying, citing religious beliefs, she's always supported the community, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But when you post them that you like this hat and you want this hat, that's what we're believing that you want, that you stand for those ideals and those virtues. So if she's MAGA or not, bitch, people are very upset. And also, bitch, you know what I'm gonna say in this day and age, Just come say with your chest, I did not support Trump. I did not vote for Trump. Then say that.

[C]

But she didn't. So.

[B]

Which is.

[C]

She didn't.

[B]

Because she probably did. Yeah. So apparently last night. Cause she's currently in Sunset Boulevard on Broadway right now, and she was poised for A Tony. Cuz I went to go see the show now I went to go see the show on a Tuesday. I bought tickets not knowing anything. Apparently Nicole does not perform on, she has every Tuesday off. And I was like ugh. I really bought these tickets to come see Nicole shercing in the show. The show is a brilliant show. The woman, I forget her name, her cover, I forget her name, but she's incredible.

[C]

Was it Ronjo or something?

[B]

No, I don't know. A lady with curly hair. She was really good though and the show was a really great show. But apparently now people get asking for her to be ousted from the role, to not nominate her for the Tony and put Heather Headley in the show instead. It's like a whole, whole whole drama girl.

[C]

And then like the, the Instagram for the, the show also like turned their comments off.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

So well, like with Nicole you didn't have to say anything and you did. And now you're paying the consequences 100%.

[B]

And we're in a very sensitive time right like, and again we, we tried our best and not talk about politics and everything but like we, this is part of what the world is for the next couple days. People are, are upset, people are grieving. It is what it is and we're in a really tricky time. Whereas. And I've been trying to do my due diligence and listen to all the things because I do think there is some validity in people saying they feel like the Democrats have kind of lost the working class. I'm not saying those things are not valid. I just in my life, in my experience could never see myself prioritizing my pocketbook or how I felt four years ago versus the denigration of people and making people second class citizens and not having people have equal rights and protection that I do. Like I just will never prioritize my money or my wallet over that kind of stuff. So you know, so it's just really tough and people are going to be upset and people are going to be express that and say how they feel. And so it just is what it is. And she got to pay the piper in some way, some, some way shape or form.

[C]

It was like a worse timing to do this, Nicole. And you know what? Personally, me as someone from the gay community, I'm done with you. And I was rooting for you all this time. I always, you know, hoped better things for you. I was like, she's so talented, you know, like she deserves like to be now I don't care. Like you could rot yeah.

[B]

I've been supporting Nicole Scherzinger since Eden's crush. Okay. Get over yourself. Goodbye. Like, I was supporters. And now. And now I ain't no mo.

[C]

Now I came a little to Jaeho without singing Maga.

[B]

Wait, that's her song.

[C]

Jai Ho. Yeah.

[B]

I did not know that.

[C]

Wait, wait. Let me just make sure that it's her song.

[B]

I did not know that.

[C]

I think so, Jaeho. Well, you're making me doubt things.

[B]

I. I just. I just didn't know. I just asked. Yeah.

[C]

Jai Ho. Pussycat Dolls.

[B]

Why did. I was Pussycat Dolls. Interesting. But you know what? People. If. Listen, if you. So if you want to go see Sunset Boulevard, get your ticket on. Cause Nicole is not in it. And I think if people got tickets and they only went on Tuesdays, we could send such a powerful message. Like, we wanna see the show, but not on the other nights. On the night that we know she's not in it. And if you want another show to go see. I went to go see. Death Becomes Her. So fucking good. The show was brilliant. So funny. Megan Hilty. I'm sorry, I forget the woman who plays the other role. Ah, sorry. But they were both so good. So funny. The show is brilliant. I loved every minute of it.

[C]

There's two shows that I'm like, excited to go see this coming up.

[B]

What?

[C]

The first is the Jinx Monsoon and Mandela Crimson Holiday Show. I go every year. It is phenomenal. It is so good.

[B]

I want to go with you this year.

[C]

Let's go. Yeah, let's go. Like, I love them so much because every year they manage to, like, bring up fresh materials about the holidays and they make it so funny. The second show I'm excited to go see is this show called Life Be Lifeping.

[B]

Thank you, Kim. Yes. I have my one show, Life Be Life in touring. The last dates. Yo. These are the last dates of the show. I'm doing New York City. I'm gonna be at Joe's pub on the 19th and 20th of November. And I'm going to be the 20 dates in the States in January. And then I'm filming it in Los Angeles later on after in February. And then the show is done. I've been doing this show for fucking two years now. It's a wrap on her. And so if you want to go to my website to come see the show live, it's a show I'm really proud of, even from Kim saw the very first iteration of it before I took it to Edinburgh, before all these other shows. So the show is literally, Kim, kind of completely different from what you even saw. But I'm really proud of you.

[C]

It was great back then so I'm sure it's even more phenomenal now.

[B]

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Kim. Thank you so much for coming and chatting with me. We just, I love talking have Kim in the Omega Nippon because we just, you know, we're obviously we're good friends. Not only when y' all see we hang with them all the time and it's always nice to have them on the podcast. I just love you so much.

[C]

Kimberly. Yes. Am I going to see you at the next Blood and the Clock Tower night?

[B]

Yes, I'm going to come. I, I literally come back to LA on the 21st and then I'm so I'm going to be there on, on, on the next one.

[C]

Okay, sounds good.

[B]

All right. Dear.