The One About Influencers II

Summary

Podcast Summary: Sibling Rivalry – "The One About Influencers II"

Date: August 18, 2025
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change

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Episode Overview

This episode of Sibling Rivalry finds Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change diving headlong into the wild, competitive, and often hilarious world of influencers—comparing LA and New York “creator culture,” analyzing the economics of influencing, and reflecting on their own digital journeys. The duo pepper their discussion with the expected blend of cutting humor, candid personal stories, and off-the-cuff bits that fans adore, all while touching on race, identity, social media trends, and what it’s like to make a living online in 2025.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Defining African American Identity

[03:48-13:00]

• Monét and Bob debate the boundaries and definitions of "African American". Monét argues for specificity in cultural and ethnic heritage, while Bob emphasizes the breadth of experiences that constitute being Black and/or African American in America.
  • Monét: "African American is an ethnicity, and you inherit your ethnicity. So how can you inherit your ethnicity from someone who doesn’t have that ethnicity?" [06:50]
  • Bob: "When you are a Black person born in America…I'm having an African American experience in America." [07:29]
• They discuss generational language shifts (“colored,” “Negro,” and the N-word), referencing pop culture moments (Tammy Roman clip) and personal family anecdotes.

2. Personal Histories, Touring, and Early Careers

[17:57-26:50]

• Monét tells the story of working with Missoula Children’s Theater, traversing the country in a red truck, teaching and performing (including Andulusia, Alabama and Columbus, Georgia). [18:04]
  • Monét: "We drive all across the country doing these shows, like literally all over the country." [21:54]
• Discussion of pay in early performance jobs, adjusted for inflation—featuring a running joke about their ages and career timelines.
• Bob recounts early-career experiences with the Portland Opera, including encountering explicit racism for the first time as an adult. [25:46]
  • Bob: "That's when I experienced the most racism as an adult that I had ever experienced." [25:46]

3. Racism & Navigating Professional Spaces

[25:46-31:06]

• Bob details the microaggressions and mistreatment in Portland Opera, where POC were given earlier call times and faced systemic assumptions.
• They highlight allyship (shout-out to Bob’s friend Drew Rutledge) and the impact of “diversity training.”
  • Bob: "It was a very racist situation." [31:06]

4. Social Media Nostalgia and Alternative Influencer Realities

[31:17-41:32]

• Monét laments not having had modern social media during her (and Bob’s) early years, convinced she would have been “TikTok famous.”
  • Monét: "If I would have been in college during the social media we know today, I would have been TikTok famous." [31:20]
• They joke about cringey digital trends: singing duos at the kitchen table, viral meme songs, and the difference between online singers and dancers.
  • Monét: "Can I say that online singers are cringy?" [36:39]

5. The Realities of Social Media Money

[42:09-45:00]

• Comparison between LA and New York influencer scenes. LA is more segmented by niche, NY is a "melting pot" of influencer types at events.
  • Bob: "LA only has like the same type of influencers at different events... whereas New York is like, all of them go to everything." [43:05]
• Detailed (and sobering) breakdown of income and creator economics:
  • TikTok creator fund pays little for massive engagement.
    • Monét: “I have 128.3 million likes... in six years, I’ve made $10,000.” [44:29]
    • Bob: “I have 14.2 million likes... probably made about roughly $3,000 on TikTok.” [44:47]
  • Brand deals are where real influencer money lies (referencing creators like Wisdom and MrBeast).

6. Books, Audiobooks, and Media Consumption

[45:21-50:56]

• Monét talks about selling her book via TikTok (399 sold directly).
• Both discuss their reading habits; Bob prefers physical books, Monét likes both reading and audiobooks.
  • Bob: “I don’t like digital books. I like holding a physical book.” [46:06]
• Shout-outs to "Becoming" by Michelle Obama and "Finding Me" by Viola Davis as favorite memoirs, sharing the impact of these books’ stories of resilience.

7. Influencer Hustle Culture: “Three Days in One”

[51:43-57:14]

• The hosts poke fun at viral productivity hacks, such as “dividing your day into three mini days.”
  • Monét: “You’re still working. He’s just continuing his work and just calling it a new day.” [54:46]
• Debate about the effectiveness (or stupidity) of hustle culture.
  • Monét: “How is calling a six-hour chunk a day gonna fix the problem of procrastination?” [54:16]

8. Show vs. Reality: Podcast Reviews, Money, and Class

[60:09-64:23]

• Banter about managing multiple businesses, joking about being “upper middle class” and poking fun (again) at Monet’s “rich kid” reputation.
• Bob and Monet read some of their podcast’s five-star reviews and gently prod listeners to leave more.

9. Listener Engagement and Community Shoutouts

Throughout

• Consistent call-outs to listeners: “Sound off below!” regarding opinions on African American identity, gendered bathroom difficulties, audiobook habits, and more.
• Segment of shoutouts to listeners wearing silver name necklaces or gray sweaters/hoodies. [14:05]
• Push for more ratings/reviews on Spotify & Apple.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Gatekeeping Blackness:
  • Monét: “I gatekeep African Americanism.” [01:21]
• On Early Social Media:
  • Monét: “If I would have been in college during the social media we know today, I would have been TikTok famous.” [31:20]
• Bob’s Most Adult Racism:
  • Bob: “That's when I experienced the most racism as an adult that I had ever experienced.” [25:46]
• Dead Baby & Chuck Norris Jokes:
  • Monét: “I used to be really into really offensive jokes…so into dead baby jokes when I was in college.” [41:18]
• About Influencer Pay:
  • Monét: “I have 128.3 million likes...in six years, I’ve made $10,000.” [44:29]
• On Audiobooks
  • Bob: “...when you listen to audiobooks, you zone out? ...Mariah Carey is the only one I listen to.” [47:07]
• On “Day Packing” Hustle Culture:
  • Monét: “You’re still working. He’s just continuing his work and just calling it a new day.” [54:46]
  • Bob: “If your workday is doing nothing, then, yeah, you have packed 60 days into a minute.” [55:45]
• Listener Outreach:
  • Bob: “Can you also sound off below where you’re listening from? And please don’t fake it.” [15:39]
• Closing Rivalry:
  • Monét: “All I’m saying...trying to give your homegirl a shout out.” [61:09]

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• Defining African Americanism & Generational Language: [03:48–13:00]
• Touring, Early Arts Careers, Pay Talk: [17:57–26:50]
• Experiencing Racism in Professional Spaces: [25:46–31:06]
• Influencer Nostalgia & Digital Cringe: [31:17–41:32]
• Influencer Economics, TikTok Realities: [42:09–45:00]
• Books, Audiobooks, and Memoirs: [45:21–50:56]
• Productivity, Hustle Culture Debunk: [51:43–57:14]
• Podcast Reviews, Class Jokes, Listener Community: [60:09–66:13]
• Shout-outs to listeners (fun, recurring bits): [14:05; 15:39]

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Tone and Style

The episode is packed with unscripted, rapid-fire wit, gentle ribbing, and a blend of the deeply personal and the broadly relatable. Bob and Monét’s banter oscillates between philosophical debates and laugh-out-loud pop culture references, always looped in with listener inclusion and a sense of family. Despite the comic undertone, the hosts address serious themes around identity, race, and the realities of digital careers.

Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Monet X Change]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I'm Monet X Change. And this is simply rivalry.

[Monet X Change]

On this week's episode, I gatekeep African Americanism.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We talk about influencers and influencing.

[Monet X Change]

And we find out what made Monet say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's when I experienced the most racism as an adult that I had ever experienced. And we find out what made Bob say this.

[Monet X Change]

I guess there's room for everyone. Let's just say that. Macaroni, eggs, cheese. Mac. Mac. Macaroni, eggs, cheese, Mac.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mac.

[Monet X Change]

Ethic. Maca. Mac. Mac. Maca. Mac. Mac is back. Mac. Mac.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When you watch me and Cracker do the Pit Stop, do you get sad?

[Monet X Change]

I didn't watch your Pit Stop. I didn't watch a single episode.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you don't see. You don't. You don't want to support Ms. Crocker?

[Monet X Change]

No, it's you. It's you. I watch Cracker stuff.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you didn't want. So you watch around the Pit Stop?

[Monet X Change]

No, no, just you. I avoid you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, but so, but so you didn't support her then?

[Monet X Change]

I started to watch Survivor the other day and it was really good. And then I thought, monet likes this and I don't want to support you. So I canceled every subscription service I have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Were you really watching Survivor?

[Monet X Change]

No, no, but I actually wasn't. Like, actually, I did watch this top and I actually was like. I was like, I want to be there. And I kept trying to meet up with Cracker, but it just was not. It was not happening. This whole mad at me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is she mad at you?

[Monet X Change]

Y', all. Y'. All, My daughter's your. Your bestie now?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, to be fair, Cracker and I were besties after y' all for a long time.

[Monet X Change]

I love Miss Cracker and Cracker, I would love to see you again at some point. And I just adore you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We did this episode of Bits off, so she got there before me. Cause she was filming some bits before me. And I walked in and it was literally like, wicked. I was like, you're purple. Why is she that girl? I love to be a color today. So I just chose. Cause I just felt like being purple. I was like, you better work.

[Monet X Change]

Let's clear it up. No, I did not eat eggplants as a. No, I did not drink grape Kool Aid as a child. And no, you will not turn purple, actually. And yes, you will turn purple if you touch me. Cause this is makeup.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, she had a thing. Because of the thing. They didn't have a setting powder. So she was wet purple. So every surface Cracker lean again, touch was just became purple.

[Monet X Change]

Why didn't she baby powder it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's the old ball, the drag queen school of drag.

[Monet X Change]

You can baby powder colored foundation and go back over in like a. Ey shadow or something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Screaming, colored is crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Colored. Honey, have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you ever been called colored before?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, my. My. Some of my family says that's color black people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That black people say colored.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. When they. They were born in the 60s in Mississippi, so they say color folks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've heard colored folks, but that's different than saying color like. Like. Like you colored. I. I've said colored folks, but saying you colored is a different thing.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Some black people in this house say colored. Whoa.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's like, especially.

[Monet X Change]

Especially older people. Cause they grew up being called colored.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think. Do you think we're. We're. We're going to get to a time when people stop saying nigga. Like, is. Nigga is ever. Is nigga ever going to go through like a. I mean, Negro used to be popular. Black people say Negro a lot too. But that's kind of. I feel. I. I feel. Maybe it's my experience, but it feels like we people don't say Negro as much anymore.

[Monet X Change]

Obviously, we're not saying the way they say. They weren't like, what's up, my Negro? Like that they were just referring to each other as, like. As a Negro person, as a Negro American. The term African American really did not start until the 90s, right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I'm saying, will we ever. Will ever, like, go through.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think. I don't think in my lifetime. No, I don't think so. And just like the prev with African American, which maybe, maybe a new word will pop up. And people. People of color popped up, which is a more encompassing thing for all non white people, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you seen a clip of Tammy Roman in the house? I don't know what show it is, but she's like, this guy's in the house. She's like. And blah, blah, blah, blah. Cause they. And when she. Tammy's just in. She's in this like, sliding door, like, smoking a cigarette. And this white guy said it's her and a bunch of white people and like this Latinx woman. And then they talked about the situation. And he's like, yeah. Cause this guy and he called that man a nigger. And she was like. And she's like, what show? I don't know what show it is. Just a clip I seen on social media. And then Tammy goes, the word nigga should never come out your mouth. And he's like, I was just saying what. I was just saying what he was saying. And she's like, it should never. Then the Latinx woman goes. She was like, how dare you say that? You don't ever sit there and call somebody a n a n. And the tam room goes. And she's like, A.J. you don't say either. Cause you are Latinx.

[Monet X Change]

Is she smoking a cigar?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's a cigarette.

[Monet X Change]

Oh. She's like, yeah, she. I was like, it had to hang out her mouth.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like. She's like, you don't either. And then this other man goes, you know what? This is completely inappropriate. I have adopted a lot of black colored kids that.

[Monet X Change]

She goes, can you please say. I'm not saying this.

[Jacob]

It was on Real World Homecoming.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, that's what it is. And she was like, and you should not be calling them black colored.

[Monet X Change]

I have a question for you. You and I had a conversation the other day. Do you consider yourself African American?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, I am African American, but my ancestry's from Africa. I mean, I do both.

[Monet X Change]

That's not what African American is, though. Everyone with African ancestry is not African American. Like, is your mom African American?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I was born in America, so I feel like. I feel like I have African American and West Indian American heritage.

[Monet X Change]

But you, you, you African American is an ethnicity, and you inherit your ethnicity. So how can you inherit your ethnicity from someone who's not. Who doesn't have that ethnicity?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I was born in America, so what does that make me? My experience is that of an African American in America. When I go sign paperwork, whatever. There's not an option with any American. It says black African American.

[Monet X Change]

There's other. There's black or black Americans. And like, for example, like, for example, when you see your friends who are born in America but their parents are from Africa, you think they're African American too. How do you inherit an ethnicity from someone who doesn't have that ethnicity to give to you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I think I get what you're saying, but I think as when you are a black person born in America and you have. I'm having an African American experience in America. I'm not having a West Indian American experience.

[Monet X Change]

You haven't been at home. At home, you're having an African American experience.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, but as past that now I'm having an African American experience in America.

[Monet X Change]

I think you're having a black experience in America. Like you are having a black. Like, for example, if BB's walking down the street and you're both just walking, you're both having a black experience in America. But Bibi de Harbonnet is not African American.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And how is my experience different than your experience in America?

[Monet X Change]

I think it's our heritage. What we grew up, what we have at home, the food that we eat, the cultures that we have. My ancestry, my lineage, learning about those things.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but I learned a lot about and experienced a lot of that being living in America.

[Monet X Change]

What about when white people learn about it? Are they African American now? Do you learn about it? They learn about it. Learning about it. Learning about an ethnicity doesn't make you that ethnicity.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob and I grew up in the same neighborhood. And my experiences as, as, as, as a black person, African American is not going to be Jacob experience as a white.

[Monet X Change]

You having a black experience, but you're not African. But like, like, for example, like what is. Let's Google the term determine. Because you can't inherit an affinity for someone who doesn't have it to give to you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

African American. Let's, let's look it up.

[Monet X Change]

Like, do your mom consider herself African American? Hold on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

African Americans are Americans of African descent with strong emphasis of those whose ancestors were enslaved in the United States. They are diverse group, encompassing people who rare. So my father, My father had that experience.

[Monet X Change]

Your father is American?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's American and Trinidadian.

[Monet X Change]

Interesting. It's anything you could say. I mean, I wouldn't. I guess there's room for everyone. Let's just say that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why. Why do you want a gay keep African American.

[Monet X Change]

It's not about gatekeeping it's just about, like. I don't know. I mean, I am African American, and I guess everyone is now. Bibi's African American. You're African American.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

African American. My father, who is American and Trinidadian, has that experience.

[Monet X Change]

And where was he raised?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He spent time in Trinidad. America, kind of like me. Like, I think he spent his first, like, seven years. I think it was America. And then family was in Trinidad and he came back. That's when I met my mom. They had me. And you're having the same experience.

[Monet X Change]

You're both just back and forth.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, back and forth. Across the door.

[Monet X Change]

Still wonder what y' all think in the comments below.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why you gotta be so incendiary?

[Monet X Change]

I'm just asking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's just.

[Monet X Change]

I'm just saying you and I had very different experiences growing up. I was not traveling back. I was. When you say you and I were having. I was not traveling back and forth to the Caribbean as a kid. You and I were certainly not having the same childhood experience.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but I think that speaks to the breadth and the vastness of what the African American experience is. It is a very big one. There are a lot of experiences that funnel into what that ethnicity is.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think a lot of African Americans, especially, whose both of our parents are African American, are traveling back and forth to the Caribbean.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't say a lot, but I said. But it is part of. Right. Just because it's not a lot doesn't mean it's not still part of that experience.

[Monet X Change]

First of all, again, being black, we have a shared experience because we're black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Correct.

[Monet X Change]

But it's not because we're both African American.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But my ethnicity from my father is that of African Americanism. Like I. African Americanism as of being an African American.

[Monet X Change]

African American. Don't say that. We don't say that. We don't say African Americanism.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is part of my. The makeup that makes my parents say nigger. My dad did. My mom did not.

[Monet X Change]

They say nigger.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They know they said nigga with a. Ah. We don't even say the A because we're. Because. Because we also have that French American experience. So we have the little nigai, you know.

[Monet X Change]

Any family say colored?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I don't think so.

[Monet X Change]

Anyone your family was ever. You know, we don't have to go deep into this. Anyone your family views a cloud only bathroom? Probably.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. I mean, my grandmother lived my. My grandmother came to the States in the fucking 60s, so probably.

[Monet X Change]

Where to New York City with. Did New York City have segregated bathrooms? I think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think they did at some. I think some places. I think when you go to like the really white places, like probably like Bensonhurst and shit, I think. I think that existed, but I don't. I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

When my mom was a kid, when they would travel on road trip, they had to take a. They took a porta potty. Like a.

[Jacob]

Like.

[Monet X Change]

Like a. Like an old folks one of those toys. Like a traveling toilet, basically.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is this? What does the traveling toilet look like?

[Monet X Change]

It's like something like it. Like if an old person. Like if old person can't sit in the toilet because it's too low, it's like a toilet. They. You basically. It's like a. It's a toilet. It's like a chair with a bucket in it. And then you take the bucket out and you toss it. On road trips. Well, because they couldn't use the bathrooms and anywhere they stopped.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know what I was thinking? As a person with a penis, it is so easy to go to the bathroom.

[Jacob]

Whatever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

People with vaginas. That sucks. When we were doing the survivor thing, the dudes, we can just. I mean. And the people with vaginas did as well, but it's definitely a different thing. Like I could whip it out and go anywhere, but I could just whip it out and play with it right here and pistol off of the screen. Having a vagina is just so much more.

[Monet X Change]

That is. Why do you have to say all that I could. Why would you. That's just too much. You always have to take it. You always have to take it somewhere it don't need to be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob, you have bitch. You are the queen of going off road, nigga.

[Monet X Change]

And we sing on the screen, we're

[Bob the Drag Queen]

having a conversation and we are both. And I try to stay in the lanes. You will give yourself an ATV and off road us immediately. Are you fucking kidding me?

[Monet X Change]

This feel like we're making that. You went straight to the house. Y' all shit on these walls, right? Like, I don't take it there. You know what I mean? You took it to shitting on the walls, Ray.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but when you have a vagina, it just. It makes it so much more complicated. Like even at like festivals when I mean or a place where there are pot a porta potties and you have to go use those pot of porties.

[Monet X Change]

I feel you would be at a pot party.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel so bad for people with vaginas who. I know they don't have to sit on it, but they must have great vagina legs and quads. You have to like hover to piss outside. That's crazy.

[Monet X Change]

You know it probably. Comment below. Everyone with vagina come below. Let us know. What. What is your experience?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Comment below and let us know. I like that we should start saying that.

[Monet X Change]

We used to do shout outs. We have not done in a long time. So I just want to give a big shout out to anyone who's wearing a necklace with their name on it. Only if the necklace is silver. Only a shout out to you if you have a necklace with your name on and the necklace is silver. If it's gold or if it's something else. I'm not. I'm liter. Not talking to you. You have to be wearing it right now. Now you have one. You have to be wearing it right now. Who do you want to shout out? Monet?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If people do silver, Nameplay, jewelry, jail, you should be executed.

[Monet X Change]

I'm giving you a shout out. I don't know what Monae's doing. Who you want to shout out? Monae? Boo.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I'm gonna shout out people wearing gray sweaters. If you're wearing a gray sweater right now or a gray hoodie, I'm shouting you out. They're so cozy, so comfy.

[Monet X Change]

So any sweater, like a cable knit sweater, a sweater vest. We need to. We need to be specific.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is this called?

[Monet X Change]

That's a hoodie. It looks like a hoodie. You said sweaters or hoodies. Can we. Can we narrow it? You like gray sweaters, gray hoodies, gray shirts, gray. If you have a gray cat, can you. Can you narrow it down, please?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Bob, mine is open ended. You listen.

[Monet X Change]

This is classic Bob Monet. Well, Monet is shouting at everybody. Anyone, anyone live. If you're breathing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob will. Bob constantly tries to put you see, all y' all ever have a friend that's always trying to put you in a box to try to limit you. That's Bob. I would say. I would say something about you're limited. See, Bring up Wicked. This nigga will bring up Wicked is the last thing he do.

[Monet X Change]

You brought it up last time and the fans dragged you. Thank you for that, everyone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, no, no.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you, everyone. Thank you, everyone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you also sound off below where you're listening from? I think it's so. I listened to a podcast the other day and they were doing that and they were reading where people were calling from. And please don't fake it. Like, genuinely say. Don't be like, yeah, I'm from Kazakhstan. And you sitting right in your apartment in New Jersey, like, just shout out, bayonne.

[Monet X Change]

You like Bayonne, New Jersey? Is that your Andalusia, Alabama?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have I ever been there?

[Monet X Change]

No. Is that your Andalusia, Alabama? Like, when you name a random place Bayonne, New Jersey? No. No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I go. I think. Why? I gravitate towards so much towards Andalucia, Alabama is the. Is the alliteration there. So I need to find Bayonne. Where's the state? Do we have a state with a B?

[Monet X Change]

There's not a lot of alliteration in Andalucia. I mean, the A's. Andalusia, Alabama. But, like, where's the. Where's the alliteration?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Andalusia, Alabama. Is that not alliteration? My fuck. Am I not saying the definition of alliteration? Right? That's alliteration.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I guess. Yeah, I guess Alabama. Because Alabama has a lot of A's in it. So I guess. And I was in like, like, like. Like. Like titter. Like Titonga. Tahiti would be like a lot of alliteration.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it is just the occurrence of the same literal sound at the beginning. It doesn't matter. It doesn't have. It's just Andalusia, Alabama, Bayonne, Bethesda. That's alliteration, babe.

[Monet X Change]

What I'm saying, like, it's double down when it's, like, up in there, too. Like tit. A tat tone. I'm trying to think of a word with a bunch of tentacle. We'll talk about it when we give her a break.

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[Monet X Change]

Do you want to go to Andalucia?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think we should.

[Monet X Change]

I've been.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To be clear, you've been to Andalucia, Alabama.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, I've been to Andalucia, Alabama.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it exciting there?

[Monet X Change]

No. It was one time in. This was probably 2000 is probably 20 years ago, maybe 2005, when I was. And I did a play there, I did a production of Snow White and The Seven Doors in Andalusia.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Interesting. And this is when. When you were doing the children's theater.

[Monet X Change]

The Missoula Children's Theater?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Missoula. And Missoula is from Alabama.

[Monet X Change]

Missoula's in Montana.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Missoula, Montana.

[Monet X Change]

So, okay, so another alliteration. So why don't you. Why don't you ever say Missoula, Montana?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Vince, you the one that's learning what it is. I know what it is.

[Monet X Change]

I know what alliteration is. But I like when it's also in the word, too. When it's. A lot of it. When the letters are recurring in the word as well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Got it. I've heard. Y', all. We have heard this nigga talk about this fucking children's theater for eight. Going on eight years now. And I never asked details about it. Okay, why did you audition in Georgia for a thing in Montana or you traveled to Montana to audition, and that's how you got in?

[Monet X Change]

I auditioned for a show in Columbus, Georgia, to be in the Incline Theater, which is in Minneapolis. And then when I was in Minneapolis, I auditioned for the Missoula Children's Theater, which is in Montana, and I got into that one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you're in Columbus. You're auditioning for this thing. You get in. You move to Minnesota?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I moved to South St. Paul, Minnesota, and then there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then. How long were you there?

[Monet X Change]

I was there for one whole school year. For nine months.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For a school year. And is this why you dropped out of school?

[Monet X Change]

No, this is not why I dropped out of school. But how did you drop. It started as an internship, so I was actually getting credits to do this. And then. Then I got offered a job. So I was working for the. For the Tad? No, the. The. The. Not the Tad. That was Missoula. I was working as, like, a. We do these productions and these, like, classes inside the classrooms where two actors come in and teach kids about how to stand up themselves, how to recycle, stuff like that. But there's also a theater company attached to it that does shows, like, bigger shows, like the gymnasiums in the auditoriums, in the cafeterias. And that was in a separate company with, like, kind of more advanced actors. And then the. Peg. Whitley. I think her name is Peg Whitley, wrote a play, and she had a part for me in it. And then she. I moved over to the other company and for the second semester. And then I took a break off, and then I went back to school for two more years. But when I was there, I took. I went to this. I Can't remember. It's like some conference or something where a bunch of theaters come together and they rent out a theater and they hold auditions. You can audition for basically, like 20 shows at once. All these summer stocks like that. I was offered to get a job at the Missoula Children's Theater, where I went and worked for a summer. And then I went from that. From that job. I went back to Columbus, Georgia, for two years, and I went back to another summer and did another Yega. Missoula Children's Theater.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Missoula. So Missoula Children's Theater. They just did. They did stuff all over the country. Why the. Did they go all the way down to Alabama?

[Monet X Change]

Because there are children in Alabama who want to do plays. Monet, Even children in Alabama do theater, if you can believe it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, this is such a far. Like, you have the whole Pacific Northwest or all the. Like, I didn't realize it was just so far reaching, like.

[Monet X Change]

So the Godzilla tours New York. There's pretty. There's a. There's a documentary called Little Red Truck. You can probably go find it somewhere on the Internet. And what they do is all of us go to Missoula, Montana. We learn, we train, we practice, we rehearse. And then we. Each of us two actors. Each company is just two actors. You get in your little red truck. It's a Ford F150. And then you have your entire set and all the costumes in the back of the truck. And then you drive. We drive all across the country doing these shows, like, literally all over the country. I mean, every. And we all leave Missoula, Montana, roughly the same day. And I mean the same day, but roughly, like, we just parse it out, because all these red trucks just leave town, like, simultaneously. And we drive all the way down to Florida, all the way up to Maine, everywhere.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So y' all are basically Mormons?

[Monet X Change]

Sure. It's a bit of a stretch, but

[Bob the Drag Queen]

sure, it's a Mormons of theater. Y' all are just two of y' all just going door to door to different schools.

[Monet X Change]

We don't go door to door.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're booked.

[Monet X Change]

We're not selling anything. We're invited.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, no, we're not like Mormons anything either.

[Monet X Change]

Mormons are not. They are. There certainly are. When you get there, you have to pay. When you get to church, you have to tithe. And also, Mormons are not invited. They. They force their religion on you. Whereas we were invited to these places. We were not. We didn't have to sell the service we were booked.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And how many schools did you do?

[Monet X Change]

They were not schools. It was in the summer. So we were doing like summer camps, rec centers, camps, YMCAs, stuff like that. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How many did you do?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, we did one every week for a summer. Whoa. And when I was at the Climb Theater, we would do one a day for four and a half months.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was it good pay?

[Monet X Change]

No, horrible.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, what's horrible?

[Monet X Change]

I worked for Climb Theater. I was getting paid maybe 3. 25 a week.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And inflation. That's not. That's probably about 675 now.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think it's quite doubled.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think so.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob, you can tell what is six. What is 375 a week from? Or 320. It was 325, remember now? 325. 325 a week from 2005.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. What would that be now? I'm gonna guess. Actually, I'm gonna go a little higher. I'm gonna say 725.

[Monet X Change]

And when I was working in the. In the acting company, I got bumped up to $535 a week.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you make like $1,500 a week. That's good.

[Jacob]

325 a week from when?

[Monet X Change]

2005.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob.

[Monet X Change]

You were balling a week, Monae. Not a day. A week. 325 a week.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Back then, rent was like.

[Monet X Change]

Don't back then me. It was not that long ago. I'm not that old, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was 20 years ago. Someone listening to this podcast was not even born then.

[Monet X Change]

It's called Years, not years.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Someone listening to this podcast not even born then. Girl, that's 20.

[Monet X Change]

But you were. But you were. And you were an adult. You were a grown ass.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was not an adult, man. I was 15.

[Monet X Change]

You're a lot. I've seen your real driver license, bitch. You may have tricked everyone into believe that you're. You're a Gen X. Anyways, I was Monet's fully 45.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was 15 back then. Wow.

[Monet X Change]

Never did high school. Michelle Visage clock that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's so interesting how we both. How we both have such. You know, that's kind of similar to what I did with Portland Opera. To go like it was in a. We were in. We were in Portland and we did this. This. This young artist program with them where we went to different schools. Only this. Only in the state of Portland, though.

[Monet X Change]

You have the inflation rate, Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What? He what?

[Monet X Change]

I'm asking, Jacob.

[Jacob]

I don't know. I didn't realize you specifically wanted the inflation rate. I was Just.

[Monet X Change]

I just want to know what it is today. Like, what is. I'll do it. 325 from 2005 today.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Inflation calculator.

[Monet X Change]

That would be.

[Jacob]

$507.

[Monet X Change]

See, you said 700 when I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, at first I said 575. I was close. I should have just shut my fat ass up.

[Monet X Change]

How much are you getting paid from 5:45.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's 5:45. I'm on the government website.

[Monet X Change]

What were you getting paid at the opera company?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't. I couldn't even tell you. I don't. I don't remember. I could even. Not even guess what it was. I have no idea what it was, to be honest. But that's when. That's when I first. That's when I experienced the most racism as an adult that I had ever experienced. Like this guy who was running. His name was Sam something. And so it was myself, my friend Drew Rutledge, who's a white woman. My friend Claudia Chapa, who is a Mexican woman. And the other tenet, his name was Anthony Ballard, who was a black man. Then we had this woman soprano. I don't wanna say her name. Her name was Ainsley. She was a soprano. And Stacy was a baritone. Both white.

[Monet X Change]

Why are you saying everyone else's name but not these people's names?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because they were part of the broad one.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, okay. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then so you.

[Monet X Change]

You. So why are you naming the victims and not the offenders? You should protect. You should be protecting the victims. Why are you protecting. Why are you protecting the racist?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because we've all spoken about it openly. They never spoke about it. That's their fucking business anyway.

[Monet X Change]

You're protecting racists anyway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So we're doing this. And my friend Drew. Drew is Drew. And her sister Cassia. Cassia is a public defender. She just. And now she doesn't.

[Monet X Change]

I'm saying everybody names. Can I get the last 4 day social?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cassia Brown, She's a big public defender in Portland and she like, does like a lot of racist training for racist white people in Portland.

[Monet X Change]

She trains people to be racist?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, sorry. Discrimination training. Anti discrimination training.

[Monet X Change]

I teach a lot of people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honestly, the way these white people be functioning these days, they must all be going to the same school. They all study from the same handbook. And so they taught me a lot because I'm just some kid graduating college. Of course I experienced racism in my life. But Portland is a very white.

[Monet X Change]

The vixen said you never experienced racism. That's what you said on tv.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said that.

[Monet X Change]

That's what? She said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You said, girl. And she said. She said. I said, I don't. Anyway, let's not get into it. Mom will derail me.

[Monet X Change]

She said you said that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What did she say? No, she did not.

[Monet X Change]

She said Monet said she's never experienced race. She said right next to me on that morning show and said she's never experienced racism.

[Jacob]

So you gave an interview on a morning show about how when you were living in St. Lucia, you didn't experience racism in the same way, and it was a culture shock to you when you moved to the. And during some of our beef, I think she, you know, misstated that information with inserting some of her own stuff in there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And then so we do this program and then it's. So it was, you know, three people of color and the other seven other four people are all white people. Right. So then it like little things, like, they would give. So remind you the three.

[Monet X Change]

I'm sorry I said this again. I'm sorry to distract again, but like, the. When you put your hands in your nose, your ear, you get so much of your finger in there. It is concerning

[Bob the Drag Queen]

what is wrong with you.

[Jacob]

Okay. I thought about this, and I think the. The issue is, though, also, when you're putting your finger in your ear, you're not putting it straight in. So, like, this. This is not what, like, Monet is so, like, it looks like there's more in it because you're bending your finger and curving it so it's actually not going all the way deep in. It's like curving down.

[Monet X Change]

No, Monet. Monet is tickling her brain is what's going on. Monet's giving herself an at home COVID test.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Give herself a lobotomy.

[Monet X Change]

All right, your friend, your friends trains. Race the people to be racist. Continue.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, so the three people of color, we're being shipped into Portland to do this. We don't live here.

[Monet X Change]

We're from. This is wavy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Shut the fuck up.

[Monet X Change]

This is crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're from New York, Texas, and I think Anthony's from Florida. I forget where Anthony's from. Like, no, he's from. He was like, St. Louis, Missouri. Like, we're from. Like, we're not from Portland. So we're here to do this thing. I'm like, I never told you about this. We're here to do this. To do this opera. So we have to, like, get housing. We're using public transportation. Like, we're figuring out these other people, they live there. And Drew, who is a great ally, who bitch Drew is. Drew is the type of person. She's walking around people calling white people out for their racism every minute of the day.

[Monet X Change]

Valentina.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she don't give a fuck. You be doing something. And Drew is like, that's racist, and you should apologize, you fucking idiot.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway, speak, Valentina.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Valentina calls people off of their racism.

[Monet X Change]

No, that's the saying. Speak, Valentina. And she goes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then. So in this thing, they would do things like give the black. The black people and the Mexican girl different call times. So, like, the entire cast would be called for seven. They would call us at 6:15, and then we would, like, be doing things like. Because they just assumed that we were going to be late.

[Monet X Change]

That's rude for your co authors. For you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, what?

[Monet X Change]

That's rude for your co workers, but for you. They ate.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And there's just a whole bunch of racist things they would do, you know, make my memory shit. But anytime Drew and I get together, we always. Because she has a fucking photographic memory, she's like, oh, yeah, on February, this. Blah, blah, blah. He did this. So we had to bring. So then at one point, we got all these racist things that had happened, and we brought it to the company thing, and it was a whole situation. Girl. It was a very racist situation.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it'd be like that. Do you think if you were. If social media was bigger than you would have, like, actually, it probably was. I forget. I keep forgetting that you're like six or four. How much younger than you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm six years younger than you.

[Monet X Change]

Jesus Christ. I think if I would have been in college during the. During, like, this social media we know today, I would have been. I would have been TikTok famous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why?

[Monet X Change]

Well, me and my friends, we did this thing where we became obsessed. We bought a camcorder and we would record everything. All of our escapades, all of our madness.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We just.

[Monet X Change]

We went down to Best Buy, bought a camcorder, and we just documented everything we did. No matter how drunk we got, no matter how boring we were, we were just recording everything. But it was on, like, actual cassettes, so it wasn't on a memory card. So we had. No way. All you do is pop it into the TV and watch it. We couldn't. Like, I didn't know how to digitize it and upload it to a computer, and I certainly didn't know how to use any editing software back then, but I would have loved to have, like, been editing that stuff. Or if phones had cameras back then, I would probably still have that Footage.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I think me and my. You know, I went to musical. Obviously, I have friends that sing well, like me. Like me, Djuan Arcia and my friends from high school. We. Like. I. I would have probably been a. A popular music page. Like, we used to get together, you know, let's take a break. I'll tell you more about how we used to sing y' all bitches under the rug.

[Monet X Change]

So y'. All. So would you have been these two girls, Monet, who. Who sing at their kitchen table and they're singing songs like, what the fuck? No, no, not that one. Well, maybe they did that one, but the one I did with it, they did Timmy Turner show fairly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Our parents.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Like, they're doing, like, with, like, a lot of gravitas more than the actual song. All the lyrics to that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Can you hit me with. I just want. I just want the part that's important. I don't know it at all, by

[Bob the Drag Queen]

the way, to me, is an average kid.

[Monet X Change]

The main. The big part.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, what. What part?

[Monet X Change]

Why would you stop getting loose? Pepper boost, Chocolate shake or whatever it is.

[Jacob]

Do.

[Monet X Change]

Do you know it or not? I want to hear it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. What the.

[Monet X Change]

Are you saying it go like green shake, Chocolate shake?

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What?

[Jacob]

Timmy is. They're trans. They're transferring the babysitter to different objects.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This love.

[Monet X Change]

You know it or not. Are you going to sing it or not?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I could sing it.

[Monet X Change]

You're looking it up. Monet. Monet. I'm a fuck. I saw you. What were you. What were you just doing on your computer? You want to put your fucking hands up? You are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not. I'm not looking at it.

[Jacob]

Okay, Close your eyes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

Close your eyes. Yeah. Thank you, Jacob. Close your eyes. Yeah, you want to cover them with your big motherfucking man hands with those catcher's mitts on the end of your wrist. Sing it. You're a fucking liar.

[Jacob]

I'll give you the first word. I'll give you the first word. The first word is obtuse.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay? Obtuse. Rubber goose. Green mousse. Chocolate mousse.

[Monet X Change]

Guava snake. Yeah. Caught you. Thank you, Jacob, for catching this lion ass. Thank you, Jacob. Detective J. Sneaky little boyfriend does it again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was so funny how you just said whatever the you was saying. That was the.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, to be clear, my generation's version of that was. Wow. Well, she sneaks around the world From Kiev to Carolina She's a sticky finger filter poacher from Madrid down to Belize angel take you on a ride on A slow boat to China Tell me where in the world is Carmen? San Diego except Pakistan and run a scam in Scandinavia Then she stick them up down under Rango pickpocket Perth Will they never Arkansas Steal the Mekong from the jungle Tell me where in the world is Carmen Z she goes from Nashville to Norway Bonaire to Zimbabwe Chicago to Czechoslovakia and back I, I mix it up Somewhere in there they used to get me together she goes from Nashville to Norway Bonaire to Zimbabwe Chicago to Czech, Slovakia. Crumping will never not be funny Crunk it's funny every time. And I know, I know it's a serious art form, but this shit, I

[Bob the Drag Queen]

don't see it much anymore. I feel like cronking used to be really big and it's kind of like faded away a little bit. I seek it out Got it, got it, got it I seek it out what is.

[Monet X Change]

I want to hear your friends singing. What kind of stuff y' all singing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah. Like, we would get together, we would, like, do videos of us, like, taking like a song like A Stranger at My House by Samia and just put it in like four part harmony and sing like that. Like, we were like, you know, you know those people, those. That guy and those guys, and they have celebrities and they sit in that kitchen and they just do songs like that. We do stuff like that all the time. We were so good.

[Monet X Change]

Can I say that, like, online singers are cringy?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You said this before.

[Monet X Change]

They are. They're cringy. I don't know. I don't know who's cringier, by the way. I don't mind the cringe. I am cringy. I don't mind cringe. I try to figure out who's worse, dancers or singers. Who do you think's cringier? Online singers or online dancers?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think online dancers.

[Monet X Change]

Ashy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You'll see ashy spots on my hat.

[Monet X Change]

Are you lotioning your hat? What are you putting on your hat in the water? So who do you think is more cringy? Online singers? Online dancers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think online dancers are cringier.

[Monet X Change]

What it is for me about the singers is like when sitting in your kitchen and like, when they. When they. They do stuff like the singers do stuff like when they hit a high note, they'll. They'll put a caption on the screen that'll be like, ascends into the air, goes into God mode.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I never seen that.

[Monet X Change]

Or it'll be like shocked by my own. Or they're always singing a note. They Literally intended to hit. And they'd be like, woo. Have you ever seen that lady singing crazy in the. In the garage?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

She's singing crazy. And she goes, I think you're crazy. Crazy. And it's like. It hits a whistle note and she's like, woo.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I think that's always a part of singing. Whereas, like, dancers, like, your body is your body. Like, you can control. Like you can see your foot moving while you're singing. You cannot see what a muscle is doing. Sometimes, sometimes you really are in a hope and a prayer that it's gonna come out. When you are moving your hand and do pop, locking and dropping. You can see all the pop, locking and dropping. You can't see how these little. Two little muscles are moving your throat. So it's. Sometimes it startles you.

[Monet X Change]

So you think you're better than dancers because you say.

[Jacob]

I didn't say that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think I'm better than. I think my dance is better than your dancing.

[Monet X Change]

Well, that's not true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We have videos to prove it, baby.

[Monet X Change]

I have videos too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Videos to prove it, baby.

[Monet X Change]

Everyone go Google wizard of Oz in 12 minutes. And look at Monet beat behind, facing the wrong direction, looking upstage when we all look downstage.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Yeah, you love to bring up a video from 10, literally more than 10 years ago, nigga. Let's talk about. Let's talk about you on the Civil Rivalry tour three years ago. Let's talk about that.

[Monet X Change]

Better than you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's talk about that.

[Monet X Change]

Pick a class in New York, in la, we'll take it. Oh, about any discipline. Jazz, ballet, lyrical. It could be shiny. I don't give a fuck. I'll be like, the amount of.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anything you can do is. I propose. And our. Our systems are trying to get us together, but we're literally never in time at the town at the same time. For the next couple months, Desi, your assistant and my assistant.

[Monet X Change]

So don't talk to them. I hear excuses anyway,

[Jacob]

but.

[Monet X Change]

Your honor. She's backpedaling. Your honor. And it is too small for me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me see. I thought. Now you. I thought you don't like jewelry. Now you're wearing jewelry.

[Monet X Change]

Is this mine? Yeah. What do you have?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is that on your lapel?

[Monet X Change]

A microphone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's your mic for the podcast.

[Monet X Change]

Yep. Actually, it's not too small. It fits. I lied. Do you wear this, Jacob? Because this is your little dish.

[Jacob]

Yeah, I wear it.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob be mopping.

[Jacob]

I thought. I thought that was mine. Not enough. I like. I thought you. You took it to me. You're like, is this yours? I thought. I thought it was the conversation that we had around it.

[Monet X Change]

No, I bought this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You probably did. Jacob Bob, acting loud.

[Monet X Change]

No, I remember buying this. This is Tory Burch. I bought it on set of We're Here.

[Jacob]

So then why were you acting as surprised that it fit in your wrist?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right?

[Monet X Change]

Because it used to be too small.

[Jacob]

It did.

[Monet X Change]

It used to be too small. Okay, so why are you acting surprised?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You better leave jewelry right now.

[Monet X Change]

Wristed, dainty and cunt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How'd you shave that hairy ass? Your hairy ass Knuckles.

[Monet X Change]

My knuckles are not hairy. There's a little hair. Yeah, the normal amount of hair. Let's see your knuckles, girl. Let's see your mitts.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not a hair to be found.

[Monet X Change]

Turn the filter on. It's a filter. It's a filter, y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All.

[Monet X Change]

That I guarantee you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you think if you were. If there was social media back when you were in college, you would have been a lifestyle influencer or comedy?

[Monet X Change]

No, no, no, no, no. I've been doing comedy, but I've been cancelled too, though. I'd have been cancelled for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Canceled for what? What did you do that was cancelable?

[Monet X Change]

I used to be really into really offensive jokes. Really? I was really into like re. I was so into dead baby jokes when I was in college. They were such a huge hit. I was really, really into them. I was also big into Chuck Norris jokes, which are not terribly offensive. They're really cheesy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, why is Chuck Norris like the, the, the. The actor martial arts guy?

[Monet X Change]

The actor martial artist Chuck Norris? Yeah. The joke is that like Chuck Norris is really powerful and intense. So you say something like, chuck Norris doesn't do push ups. He pushes the earth down. Or you say, if Chuck Norris is running late, time better slow the down. Or you say it's all it's about. The whole bit was like, Chuck Norris is a really, really tough guy. It was really hu. 2004, 2005 jokes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, got it.

[Monet X Change]

And I told a lot of dead baby jokes. A lot of dead baby jokes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think there is a difference between New York and LA Influencers? So on this brand, on this Survivor branch, if I went on, they were like, there was. There was some. There was some huge people on there. Do you know. Do you watch Mr. Beast?

[Monet X Change]

No, but I know about him. I know. I know what he'd be up to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Carl, who was Carl Jacobs, who was on Mr. Beast channel, he was on a trip and like, I know that.

[Monet X Change]

I'm conscious on the Survivor trip.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And I'm conscious of MrBeast, but I never seen Mr. Beast videos. So I didn't know like, that Carl is.

[Monet X Change]

I didn't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Carl is. I didn't know Carl was like part of Mr. Beast. I didn't realize. But they're not in LA or New York. They're in like North Carolina or something like that.

[Monet X Change]

Mr. Beast lives in North Carolina?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Isn't that crazy?

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But they did a lot of their. But there were a lot of LA influencers and New York influencers. Like Davis. Davis Burlesque, who does what's Poppin. You know, those street interviews and some LA girls, they were saying, like, there's a huge difference in New York City and LA influences. I was like, what is the difference? They're like, la. LA only has like the same type of influences at different events. Like all the makeup influencers go to the same brand events, all the food ones, whereas New York is like, all of them go to everything. I was like, interesting.

[Monet X Change]

So I. I mean, I'm not really an influencer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

So I'm like a TV personality who just navigates the social media space. Like, I also don't even know how to. I don't even like, you know, Wisdom just basically dropped how much money he makes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I saw that the TikTok guy, the black fashion guy.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. He said that he made a million dollars by March.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's the last. He made $4.5 million from brand deals alone.

[Monet X Change]

What, like, what is he working McDonald's? Like, what's the other stuff?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think from like the Tick Tock here someone. I think specifically the Tick Tock creators. Fun. He was like, it doesn't. He's like.

[Monet X Change]

He's like. He's like, that's not even my day job where I work at rental center.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's like, yeah. He's like, the TikTok Creator Fund. He's like, I don't even get paid that much from the TikTok Creator Fund. He was like, a video that will get like 20 million views. I get like maybe like $4,000.

[Monet X Change]

I do not get that much money from the Tick Tock creator fund. I have friends who make a lot of money from the creator fund. I don't understand how they're making that much money. And I have a lot.

[Jacob]

It's because you keep on getting blocked and banned for fighting with people on lives and that diminishes your return from how much you. The TikTok will pay you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I do it again.

[Monet X Change]

I have 128.3 million likes. And in my entire career on TikTok, in six years, I've made $10,000. In six years, I have way less than you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I put. Let me see how many likes I have.

[Monet X Change]

I think I have, but I am. I get banned a lot. Like, I am fighting on the Talk.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have 14.2 million likes on TikTok, and I probably made about roughly $3,000 on TikTok.

[Monet X Change]

So, I mean, yeah, I make. I make $1600 a year. A year divided by 12. I roughly make 130amonth on TikTok. Roughly, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

But there are people who are making. I'm like, how are y' all making all this fucking money on TikTok? I don't understand it. But also, most of my videos are not more than a minute long, so I don't really make that many videos that are more than a minute long. And I started. I started selling my. I did start selling my book on TikTok.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How is that going?

[Monet X Change]

Um, I mean, it's fine. I mean, most of my sales are. Are actually hardcover copies that are purchased from stores and online. But as of right now, I've been trying to sell my book through TikTok. And by the way, if you are a TikTok influencer, you can sell the book too, if you just. If you have the. The. The. You just link it to your thing. Because I make more money when I sell it on TikTok. I have. But I have not sold that many on TikTok. I have sold. Let me check right now. On TikTok, I have sold 399 books on TikTok.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will say I hate. I mean, and then so you order it and you get the physical one in the mail. Or is it digital?

[Monet X Change]

No, they say no, TikTok will send you a book. An actual physical book in the mail.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I hate. I don't like. I don't like digital books. I like holding a physical book. Like part of the joy of reading your book as part of the joy of reading books. And I was reading your book was like, to have the physical thing. I mean, I like to hold in the physical thing. But there I posted me reading it on the boat, and Andy and I were in Costa Rican people, like, morning. I read that book. I'm like, I actually did. I read the book cover to cover.

[Monet X Change]

I like to listen to books and I like to read books. I haven't. Obviously, I haven't ever done this in years, but when I Used to live in New York City. I would read books on the train on the way to work. When I was working at Jekyll and high school, I read the. I read the entire Hunger Games series on the way to work.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I like like being on a plane. I love reading a book. Like reading instead of. Because I consume so much pot. Like working out. I like listening to podcasts and music. Flying. I like reading something.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob be in this motherfucking place listening to books. All Jacob must listen to like 20 books a year.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think when I listen to them. Don't you feel like when you listen to audiobooks, you zone out? If I listen to audiobook, I will. If I listen to, like, Mariah Carey is the only one I listen to. Cause I heard there was a lot of audio. Cause she sings and stuff in her audiobook. But what I. What. I mean, what I would love to do, I like to rehab the physical book and read along to the audiobook. That way I feel like I really, like, get every single. Cause sometimes also reading a physical one. I admit, because of this undiagnosed allegedly adhd, I have something I would. I would be reading a passage and I had to go back and read it several times because I like started thinking about something like literally reading the page. I get to the end of the paragraph and I had thought about three other things. I'm like, oh, shit, I need to read that again because I forgot what I was reading.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob how did you use on that when you be listening to books? Jacob?

[Jacob]

A little bit, but not too much. I mean, I also use it to, like, supplement when I'm doing something else. So if I'm like at the gym or like, I listen to books when I'm like, working or at the gym. Like, if I'm doing photo editing, I don't really like that's. I can have my brain split between two things. And then because of that, like, I kind of focus more on the book because I can, like, it's my other thing. So I'm not like, if I'm doing something else. Like, if I look, if I'm reading something or like, look at my phone, then I'll zone out of the book. But generally I'm listening to it where I, like, have a way. It's like my second thing and I'm giving my undivided attention to it.

[Monet X Change]

That Jacob begin his migraines and then he, like, turn. He cut off all the lights and get these ice packs on his head. And then he'd be blasting, blasting Audio

[Bob the Drag Queen]

books in this room.

[Monet X Change]

Like, it's so loud. I'd be like, how? I thought you had a migraine. And Michelle Obama be like, when I met Barack. I think Jacob listened to Michelle's book like three times. Or I don't know if he was listen over a long period of time. I could have been like, how are you still doing this book?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How is it? Is it a good book, Jacob?

[Jacob]

Okay. I think you're just thinking I'm listening to Michelle's book when I'm listening to something very different. Because I listened to it once. I listened to it right when it came out. Michelle Obama's book is fantastic. It is worth reading. It is so good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, that's becoming, right?

[Jacob]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll get it. I'll get it.

[Jacob]

I haven't read her new one, but becoming is incredible.

[Monet X Change]

It's called C comming. And the next one gonna be called decomming. It's like a whole. It's brilliant. When you think about what Michelle did,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it's impossible for you not to think of a stupid, ridiculous. You just. You are incapable of being serious for two seconds.

[Monet X Change]

Incoming.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A really sweet gift Andy gave me was when we were on civil rivalry tour. I talked about how I wanted to read Viola Davis book. And then so on our closing night of our tour. Cause he was with us for some reason. He came to the last week or so of the tour and he. And he brought me Viola Davis book and wrote me this really beautiful note at the beginning of it. It was very sweet.

[Monet X Change]

Nice. And Viola Davis would have signed it. I. I listened to Viola Davis book. I had to stop. It is a traumatizing book. Like, this lady was living a hard life. Like I was. I remember walking on Running Canyon and being like, I'm gonna start crying. I can't even. Like I'm in public. She's like, my house burned down. We was fighting. We was hungry. I was like, I can't. This is hard to, like, function with.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah. It's a. I don't think it's. But then when you hear stuff like that, it's like, wow. Like. Like to. Like. I think that oftentimes as a human, like, I hear other people's experiences and what they've gone through in life. I'm like, I don't know how they overcame that. Like, I don't know. I don't know if I had it within me to overcome that. I think when I hear someone like Viola Davis and what she went through, I was like, you have two options. Like, either you overcome it or you don't or you, or you fall victim to it or you let it like take you. So when I hear some of that, it really inspires me to hear someone like overcome the thing. And I felt like it insurmountable.

[Monet X Change]

They gave a two options Stripping a lose Used to dance in the club Brought across from a school I said dance not don't get it confused had to set the record straight cuz love to assume mama couldn't get it to me I had to get it in shoes Lord only knows how I got it I was covered in dollar Now I'm dripping in jewels Real only thing

[Bob the Drag Queen]

fake is the boobs Isn't it crazy when you think about it like everything that's like, like, like, like when you sit at the top of the year in January in just 12 months which in the span of your life isn't like, isn't, isn't a very long amount of time but so much stuff is going to happen between January, from January to January and so that my brain like thinks about that. I'm like that's kind of crazy. Like who knows what's going to happen in the next few months. And what I've been. Say it again.

[Monet X Change]

Are you micro dosing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. And then what I've been trying at

[Monet X Change]

12 months is like no one month but 12 times.

[Jacob]

God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And what I also think about, I've been trying to do this thing like of me not like me not like anticipating events, right. Like I just did that survivor influencer thing which obviously a really big thing I've always wanted to do but leading up to it I wasn't like count because I remember as a kid, I was a kid, I would count down to everything. When I knew something was coming I would have a little tally. I was counting down, I was marking off days and missing so many things in between there. So I've been really trying to be intentional about not like, like counting down the days or looking towards the thing like know it's coming and prepare for it however best need to but just like let time happen in between then not like trying to anticipate the thing and like fuck up everything else that's happening between there.

[Monet X Change]

Have you seen this guy, this influencer, this like money, money like get them get to the money bags type influencer who's like my day starts at 6am and it ends at noon and then that's one day and then my next day starts from noon to six and that's two days. So I put two days in one day. And then my third day is from six to midnight. So I've already got three days built into one day. Have you seen this guy? It is so stupid and it doesn't make any sense. Just because you call a different chunk of time a different chunk of time. So I get. He goes, so by the end of the week, I've had 21. I can fit 21 days in a week. And I'm like, what are you, How. What the fuck are you talking about?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I'm in a, in a big picture. I get it, right? Like let's say like your goal, like instead of like taking, like taking like 9am to 5pm to film two TikToks. And that's like your work day. You do that from 6am to 12. You have finished a work day for yourself.

[Monet X Change]

I get, I understand that that's not a day, a work day, but it's your day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is his work day.

[Monet X Change]

You're the, you're the one who gets influenced. You get influenced.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, but I mean, it makes sense. I mean, it's not how I would fashion my life, but I, I understand how that makes sense to them. Like, because I mean, girl, I, I am the number one procrastinating queen. There have been many, many times where I set myself like, oh, I'm gonna take this day and I'm gonna focus on writing material about this for the day for a Monday. When that's now instead of doing it on Monday. It took me Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. So now I've like procrastinated and fucked up my day three times trying to do that.

[Monet X Change]

Saying, okay, scheduling something for yourself from 6am to noon versus scheduling at a different time. Just because you scheduled on this time doesn't mean you're gonna get it done. If you didn't get it done the first time. How is just calling it, how is calling a six hour chunk a day gonna fix the problem of procrastination?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, that's, that's. But maybe his, his, his thing is not procrastination. Maybe he doesn't. When he says my workday to get XYZ is from and I finish all the things on my schedule for my workday, then that day is done of the week.

[Monet X Change]

The day's not done because then his next day is from noon to 6. He's just still working. He's just continuing his work and just calling it a new day. That'd be like if I was at work, right? And I was like, all right, today I work a regular Job I met, I'm an accountant. All right, guys, I have showed up. I get paid by the day. So I showed up at 6 o'. Clock. I did a day. I'm gonna go to lunch. When I come back, I need a whole new pay for a whole new day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But, but he's not, he's not operating on, under the construct of a regular 9 to 5 job. And he has to answer to the boss. He's a content creator. He's his own boss. He sets his own stuff, but it

[Monet X Change]

doesn't make new days. It's just all he's saying is, I work from time, wake up time and go to sleep. But he's like, I get three days packed into a day. That's, that's. And then I saw this one guy stitching and be like, okay, well, my day is. My day is one, is one second. Every second is a day for me. So by the end of the minute, I have 60 days. I packed 60 days into, into one, into one minute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But because you're not doing anything, you're not, you're not, you're not working every, you know, you're not getting. So, okay, sure, but if so is. If your workday is doing nothing, then, yeah, then you have packed 60 days into one day.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I imagine that if your workday is, if your workday is from noon to six, then what you're going to be able to get done in that timeframe, especially without a lunch break. And without. Because he doesn't, he's not factoring in lunch breaks. He just said, I want to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're assuming that maybe a work day, a workday.

[Monet X Change]

Maybe he packs up maybe, maybe each day. So maybe he's taking three lunch breaks in the middle of every single day, which would be three meals a day. So if you're working from noon to six, right? And then let's say I am working from nine to five. And then he works again from, from. Sorry, from six to noon. And then he works again from noon to six. In my opinion. Now, I don't know this man, but what you do in your third day is gonna be greatly impacted by what you did on your first day. Because there's no way you're gonna be working three days in one day, 18 hours a day, at the same productive rate that you were working at the beginning. However, if you just take the work you can do instead of trying to be like, I hustle, hustle, hustle culture, I hustle, bitch, I hustle. And trying to make sure you, you are Doing the thousand things day. Why don't you focus on doing the things you can do well and with quality instead of trying to try to get so much done? Because by the end of the week you're gonna be burnt out because you have worked three days in a day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, and again. But that's his business model. So maybe, maybe his first three days of work, those first those 18 hours are just recording the content. Right. Which may not be that hard. And then the next three days of his workday, which is just essentially Tuesday, is edit that content. Or maybe in those.

[Jacob]

It's not Tuesday.

[Monet X Change]

It's still fucking Monday. It's still Monday. Maybe, maybe I'll let him call it Monday Part 2.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe he's like, he's inviting his work that way. Which. Have you heard this new initiative that they might be. Well, it's not. It's never gonna fly. Corporations fucking these busy Cor. They would. Busy. What's the word I'm looking for? Greedy corporations would never would do that. But they're trying to do someone propose a bill to have four work days, three days off. So like so the work. The week would be Monday, Tuesday, Thursday. You'd have Friday, Saturday, Sunday as your, as your. As your weekend.

[Monet X Change]

Was that. That would only affect federal. Federal. I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But maybe, but maybe. I mean if, if it's happening federally, there's a good chance it could, it could try to. It will trickle down into private business, right? Like you working at, at whatever Sears. They might switch to that work that schedule too. It would affect.

[Monet X Change]

I just met her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also. How old does Sears even exist Sometimes I'm fucking Sears. Ew. But it could trickle down to other businesses.

[Monet X Change]

When they say you down at Dillard's,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

it could trickle down to other businesses.

[Monet X Change]

You don't think everybody get. Everybody get together going on to JCPenney. Yeah, yeah, no, certainly. I mean I think that Trump's trying to abolish DEI has certainly trickled down into private businesses like Target and you know, such as.

[Jacob]

You.

[Monet X Change]

That was huge. That meme was huge.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I had that. I have a such ass moment in my stand up. I don't think people will get it, but it's still. I get a big chuckle at that. I'm like, wow, you. I'd be like, you old ass millennial Gen Xers and know that joke, you old ass.

[Monet X Change]

You do do that. Do that at your next college gig and see how they say. See how they look at you. You'll hear them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My favorite thing is adorable. And Kamek and I do that all the time.

[Jacob]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The Dora blink. We send it to each other. Like when. Like when one of us says something that the other one has no idea, we're like, we just send the Dora meme.

[Monet X Change]

Like, I love when it goes bink. That shit sends me to the moon. But then the guy also said. Then he went back on another podcast and he was like, I want to own 10,000 businesses. My goal is to own 10,000 businesses this. And then the guy was like, 10,000? How would you. He. Yeah, that's my goal. He's like, well, I already. I already own 400. This man just lying out of his ass.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's. That's not possible.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, you can't effectively run 10,000 businesses.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not impossible. It's highly improbable. It's not impossible.

[Monet X Change]

I own two businesses and I'm.

[Jacob]

I'm.

[Monet X Change]

I'm treading water.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're not treading water. Please, please.

[Monet X Change]

You don't know what I'm doing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Release the fucking tax returns. How about that? Release those.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not saying financially. I'm talking about with my. I'm talking about dealing with people like you, energy wise. I'm not poor. I've never said I was poor. I've never even seen why I was poor.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No one said you were poor. But treading water, if a business treading water, that means they're really struggling.

[Monet X Change]

No, I'm mentally, I'm treading water. You're talking about money. You're the only one trying to. Trying to. You're the only one pocket watching. It's just you pocket watching ass.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, because I have a big. And my business is, you know, suffering because of the likes of you.

[Monet X Change]

I went back and watched Monet Exchange videos. Monet grew up rich video. It is one of the best things on the Internet is y'. All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not getting into. It is a funny.

[Monet X Change]

All I'm saying that I'm gonna talk about. I'm just trying to give your homegirl shout out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is also. You have started this narrative on the Internet how I am like, I grew up. Which is not true. And then people.

[Monet X Change]

No, not true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is. I told you. Me and my grandmother, she had a bedroom. I moved to Brooklyn.

[Monet X Change]

How big was Ben?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A full size bed.

[Monet X Change]

Full.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Shut the fuck up.

[Monet X Change]

It's called Monet Exchange Grew up rich. A Bob the Drag Queen narrative, y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All.

[Monet X Change]

It is so. This video is one of the funniest fucking things. The comments on this fucking video. Monet got classically trained in Opera. That's rich enough for me. I didn't grow up in the woods of Wisconsin. Wow. Bob drag Trixie. Julietta gonna write a tell all cleaning the exchange. Did she ever sleep in your house? I don't mean she was. I don't mean when she fainted doing all the work you refused to do as a child. Monat really said with her whole heart that it's normal for people to own homes in Brooklyn. Maid fell from the crystal chandelier is the funniest comment. Two income households, two cars, a monthly allowance, private music lessons, a game room, a live in housekeeper, family owned home

[Bob the Drag Queen]

in New York City.

[Monet X Change]

Had an extension built onto one houses. Monet was upper middle class for sure. And I dragged Nepo baby to boot. This is one of my favorite running gags. You're. You're 1% bitch. You 1% bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet.

[Monet X Change]

Monet's season 10. Look, look. Was Julietta cosplay. I kick it over Monet saying her mom had a major position at a

[Bob the Drag Queen]

cell phone company to avoid saying she was.

[Monet X Change]

Was in the SE suite. I'm gonna.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm gonna counteract Bob's ridiculosity by reading some. Some five star. Some five star reviews. I'm gonna. I think we should do this at least monthly. I'm gonna start. This is from Hannah. Hannah Clinkin. She did it on Thursday. Hannah reviewed us. So funny. Five stars. I love this podcast. I've been listening all day at work going through the backlog. Damn, they make me laugh. And I learned so much. And their patreon is a big bang for your buck star emoji. This is by Becca X07 on April 18th. Adore this podcast. And Bob and Bob and Monet even five stars. I just want to say that I absolutely adore this podcast. I've been a long time listener.

[Monet X Change]

I don't want to get to some of them. I don't know how they find. I'm trying to. I'm on the thing, y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All. This is Bond trying to try to navigate technology. This is crazy. This nigga can set up streams and do things, but to find reviews on a podcast is bewildering.

[Monet X Change]

Hold on. I want to read some too. You don't get to read all of them yourself.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, let me finish reading this one. You may have you. You may already love Bob Anda, but you'll fall in love with them even more through this podcast. They are just incredible human beings, to be honest. This podcast is not just about laughs, but you get to learn more about who they are, their stories, their experiences. I truly consider myself blessed to learn so much from them. And it goes on and on, girl. Becca wrote. Look, look how long this review is. Becca. I want to read it, but I. This is a very. I'm going to re read the rest of it off camera. It's very sweet.

[Monet X Change]

I want to address this one. I used to listen to the show to go to bed, but the ads have ruined and made this podcast almost unlistenable. Hey, y', all, you can get those these podcast completely ad free by going over to our Patreon. This may shock you, but we got got bills to pay. I get up out of bed, I put on my clothes because I got bills to pay. So if you would like to get an ad free version of this podcast, please, please, please, please feel free to join our Patreon. It is the best Patreon out there right now. These are. These other hoes can't handle us. They don't want it with us. They don't want it. They don't want it. They don't want it at all. And if you guys can leave a. Leave a review, I would love that. Right now we are currently sitting pretty at 9.7 thousand reviews. I would love. It would really tickle my pickle. If we can get ourselves up to 10.7. If we can get a thousand reviews, that would be absolutely amazing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And the guy is. We know the downward. We know how many of y' all listen every week and y' all just refuse. Y' all niggas refuse. And we have the data of how many of y' all are listening and y' all just, y' all like, you know what, I know Monet and bottom one reviews. I'm not doing it.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I mean, I'm not like, oh, Jacob's not logged in on. On Spotify. So I can't check Spotify.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm logged in on mine. Let me, let me tell you what Spotify talking about. Oh, I just have a real New York.

[Jacob]

Spotify allows you to do like written reviews.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think you can see it does do ratings. You can rate. You can rate it and we can see how many have done it.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Rating us on Spotify, even if they write a review. Just give us a rating on Spotify would be fantastic. And right now we are sitting pretty at how many Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I used to be able to

[Jacob]

16.16k on Spotify with 4.9 stars.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's nice. 16,6k. Okay. So between Spotify and

[Monet X Change]

I think we can get a 20k.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think so, too. Well, I'm gonna play Bob's favorite game. Let's see how much ratios. I have these Fucking, fucking, fucking.

[Jacob]

Are you doing Spotify or Apple?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm on Spotify. They have 10.8.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, shit. Don't. Don't do bald and beautiful.

[Jacob]

Beautiful.

[Monet X Change]

Don't do it to yourself.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I gotta see.

[Monet X Change]

I gotta.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have to look.

[Monet X Change]

Don't do it to yourself.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ball and beautiful. Okay. Okay, good. Bob, how. How many think bald and beautiful has on Spotify?

[Monet X Change]

It's 23.5. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How many think they have on.

[Monet X Change]

On.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On Apple? Don't look.

[Monet X Change]

We have what, 9.6. They have probably 15k. Okay. Okay. We're not bad.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're there at 11, y'. All. Okay, here's my dream for us. I want us to just pass vav.

[Monet X Change]

You're really gonna start within money. Then they're gonna. They're gonna activate theirs and we're gonna get cream. They're not even asking for reviews. We're begging.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, Vava, you're good at selling initiatives. What's the initiative we can do to pass them? Come on, use your noodle. You're really good at this, y'.

[Advertisement Voice]

All.

[Monet X Change]

Monet and I will do the shirtless podcast. You said you wanna do a shirtless podcast. We're gonna do the shirt. And by the way, waste. Up, up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

All the way back. If we can get to. Okay, if we can get Our Spotify to 35,000 Bibbidy bops and we can get our.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Our Apple.

[Monet X Change]

Apple just past tricks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Katia, 35,000. We're at 16. That's 10,000.

[Monet X Change]

I said what I said, by the way, that's more than 10,000. That's 20,000.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right,

[Monet X Change]

right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

New Republic schools. Okay, we gotta go. We gotta go.

[Monet X Change]

All right, bye, y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All. Bye.