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Bob the Drag Queen
My name is Bob Drag Queen and
Monet X Change
I'm Monet X Change.
Bob the Drag Queen
And this is sibling rivalry. On this week's episode, we find out that Yu Gi oh is possessed by an Egyptian prince.
Monet X Change
Jacob is finally a guest on the podcast.
Jacob Ritz
And we find out what made Bob say this.
Bob the Drag Queen
Is she into daddies? And we find out what made Monet say this. Fuck her, she's dead.
Monet X Change
And we find out what made Jacob say this.
Jacob Ritz
Yeah, that's like a fucking waste of time.
Bob the Drag Queen
Now there has been one person asking for this nonstop and several other people always chiming in because y' all often want Jacob Ritz on the podcast. How long, Jacob, how long you been working with us?
Jacob Ritz
Coming up on. I mean, I started in 2020, March 2020. So coming up on five years.
Bob the Drag Queen
So five years deep. We finally have the one with Jacob Ritz. Let's welcome Jacob Ritz to the podcast.
Monet X Change
This is the shirt Bob gave Jacob, by the way.
Jacob Ritz
Oh, no. I made this myself. I got this custom PR.
Bob the Drag Queen
For those of you who are. Who are not watching. Jacob's shirt says loads.
Monet X Change
You have the hat. I like the hat. Did you get the hat made yourselves too?
Jacob Ritz
Yeah, yeah.
Monet X Change
Oh, yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
You have a Loads necklace as well.
Jacob Ritz
I do. I honestly should start a line. I should start.
Monet X Change
Honestly, I think a lot of gays would be into it. A loads hat. Load shirt. I think, I think loads of fashion.
Jacob Ritz
Wait, okay, here's the real tea. I. I just got them from Amazon. Like, you can do custom shirt Amazon. So, like, it doesn't feel particularly ethical to just like re. Get something from Amazon and then mark it up and ship it out when you could do it.
Bob the Drag Queen
What if you. What if you get.
Monet X Change
Design it with like your own font and everything?
Jacob Ritz
You know, that's fair. Maybe I'll.
Bob the Drag Queen
You can put. You can put pictures on it and you can have like, you call it loads of fashion. The Instagram here It is.
Monet X Change
The Instagram's called, like, someone taking a load.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like a butt. Just a butt. Or like, or someone like on their knees or someone with their mouth open or a mouth like this. And it just says loads on it.
Monet X Change
Do you wear this around your mom?
Jacob Ritz
Not specifically, but it's not that I wouldn't.
Bob the Drag Queen
When me and Monet were having this conversation. Do you curse around your mom?
Jacob Ritz
Oh, absolutely. My mom curses around me when I was like a child, but I was in New York.
Monet X Change
Let's say you like these motherfucking dumbass fucking bitches. Like, are you that? Or you like people doesn't talk like that, though.
Jacob Ritz
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say. I mean, I don't talk like that in general, but I'd be like, yeah, that's like a fucking waste of time.
Monet X Change
Yeah, that I get too. But I wouldn't. Like, sometimes I think when I get really passionate, like today when the bitch was fucking ringing my bell, I was like, this fucking bitch is my fucking podcast fucking. Like, I would not. But I would say, I'm so fucking annoyed. But I wouldn't be like, going in, I would say.
Bob the Drag Queen
One thing my mom didn't like was when you called, when you did too much on calling women bitches. Like, my mom, my mom called me one time, she was like, I was watching Bianca's special and she's up here calling these women and. And just like. And she goes, you know, Chris, what I like about you, that you don't, you don't really just. You don't just go in and call women non stop. What? She is really calling these women right to their face. And I said, well, mom, some people like being called. Some women are like, into being called and think it's funny. And they're like, I'm a. And you're a. I'm the baddest. And some women, these women, they might be cool with that. I don't know, obviously, because I haven't checked with them, but they might be like, into some women like being called bitches. My mom was like, I don't know about this.
Monet X Change
I'm a woman and I like being called a bitch.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you consider yourself like a bitch? Are you like a bad bitch, a funny bitch, a cool bitch?
Monet X Change
I don't really use the word. I call myself a hood bitch. I think I have a lot of hood tendencies. Sometimes I call myself a ghetto bitch or a bad bitch or whatever. Bitch. That's not me, though.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I call myself a funny bitch. And I do have a song called Bitch like me.
Monet X Change
A bitch like me is a stunty queen. Gonna want me queen. I'm the queen of the motherfucking Pinback.
Jacob Ritz
There was an episode three where somebody was asking for help with self confidence, and they were like, you know, I just, like, want to have more self confidence. And Monet's advice was to find someone who was into that as a kink. That was a really highlights of, like, my memory moment for me.
Bob the Drag Queen
Someone who wants. Who. Wait, what was the. What was the kink like?
Jacob Ritz
Degradation and like, you're like, oh, you don't have so high self confidence. Like, find someone who's into that. Find someone who is like a no self confidence kink.
Bob the Drag Queen
Monet, the Dr. Ruth of. Didn't you have Dr. Ruth on your show one time?
Jacob Ritz
Mo.
Monet X Change
I did have Dr. Ruth. I did. Oh, my God, stop. I'm gonna cry. I'm literally around the corner from my old studio. I miss the exchange rates so much.
Bob the Drag Queen
Rip to Dr. Ruth. But, Monet, you're doing great.
Monet X Change
What about my show?
Bob the Drag Queen
Fuck her.
Monet X Change
She's dead.
Bob the Drag Queen
Your show is too. It could come back, though. She.
Monet X Change
My show can come back from the dead.
Bob the Drag Queen
That bitch is dead forever. Um, but you have Monet talks, which is doing quite well.
Monet X Change
I know, but I miss Exchange Rate. Bob, Jacob, did you ever. Jacob, did you ever watch Exchange Rate before you met Bob or me?
Jacob Ritz
But I didn't expect Exchange Rate after I met you.
Bob the Drag Queen
But Jacob and I used to watch Exchange Rate together, though. Did y' all really? Yeah. Yeah.
Monet X Change
Okay. Jacob, before you met Bob, were you a fan of minor Bob's before? Not even a big fan. But who you were a fan of, me or Bob's or not at all?
Jacob Ritz
Well, I met you. I met Bob when your season was airing.
Monet X Change
You met Bob when my season was airing where?
Jacob Ritz
In BERKELEY in like 2017, I think.
Monet X Change
Oh, right, right, right, right, right. You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. Okay. Work.
Jacob Ritz
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Why are you trying to trap Jacob in a little. In a little piece?
Monet X Change
I'm not trying to trap Jacob anything.
Bob the Drag Queen
Now, Jacob, were you a fan of me before you met me? Jacob?
Jacob Ritz
Yeah, I would say so.
Bob the Drag Queen
Why? Your voice went up when you said that? I guess he wasn't.
Jacob Ritz
Name? Kimchi. Sure.
Bob the Drag Queen
Team Kimchi is giving Team Kimchi.
Jacob Ritz
I'm trying to think, who are my big Drag Race girls before? No, I mean, I liked you in your season. I really like Naomi on your season. Derrick Barry. Oh, I love Derrick Berry. Derrick Barry is one of my favorite Drag Race girls. And I have not met her yet, which I am so annoyed about.
Bob the Drag Queen
Have you met Derrick Berry?
Jacob Ritz
I've never met Derrick Berry and I am obsessed with her.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's wild. Derrick Berry's. She's a good time girl. She's really funny and honestly, really sweet.
Monet X Change
Yeah. Derek Bird. I really enjoy Derek. Derek is very, very, very sweet. I like her a lot.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob isn't. Jacob went. Jacob went through a phase where he was a full on Aja Stan. I think Aja was in his Spotify rap, like, two years in a row.
Monet X Change
Finish her.
Bob the Drag Queen
And Jacob also is a die hard Peppermint Stan as well. I think Peppermint might be one of Jacob's favorite Drag Race girls. Jacob once edited a vlog for me, and it was a Peppermint vlog. I was like, okay. I said, okay, I guess. I guess we're doing a Peppermint vlog. Like, the whole end was this big montage of Peppermint. Like this big peppermint speech. Like, the end of my vlog was this big peppermint speech with like. Honestly, it's a. It is a beautiful vlog. It might be one of my favorite videos Jacob's ever edited for me. It is the. It is the Nubia vlog. And it basically, it's almost like a little reality TV show of me and Peppermint rehearsing for Nubia. And honestly, it was. It was very wearable. And honestly, Jacob, what you did with that little slow motion video at the end and Peppermint's big speech, honestly, scoring Stacy could never
Jacob Ritz
Drag Race you watched.
Bob the Drag Queen
What'd you say?
Jacob Ritz
What was the first season of Drag Race you watched?
Bob the Drag Queen
Did you start with one season one, episode one.
Monet X Change
Did you say Martin Scorn Sa.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I said Scorsese. Oh, I didn't say Martin. I just said Scorsese could never, you know.
Monet X Change
You know SZA has a song. Scorsese baby.
Bob the Drag Queen
Why she gotta be songs named after, like, Kill Bill Scorsese, Betty Dave. What's the other one?
Monet X Change
Drew Barrymore.
Bob the Drag Queen
What's up with. What's the. What is this?
Monet X Change
The song's called Scorsese Baby.
Bob the Drag Queen
Daddy, does she want to Scorsese?
Monet X Change
I think she's just into Martin Scorsese.
Bob the Drag Queen
Is she into daddies? Like Ben Affleck?
Monet X Change
Ben Affleck song.
Jacob Ritz
Sorry.
Bob the Drag Queen
Ben Stiller. She's into Ben Stiller, right?
Monet X Change
Because she likes his work on the show Severance.
Bob the Drag Queen
You don't know. You don't know why she's into Vincent.
Monet X Change
You don't know. You're assuming there's literally a tweet about it. I read it to you.
Bob the Drag Queen
But you don't know if she's into benzo or sexually.
Monet X Change
You don't know if she's. You don't know if she is either.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm asking. You're asserting, Jacob.
Monet X Change
No, I'm not asserting. You're not asking what you were asserting? You said, why is. You're asking a question.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I said, is she into daddies?
Jacob Ritz
I feel like just a regular podcast,
Bob the Drag Queen
but I'm on camera now. Well, Jacob. Sorry. So, Jacob, we're gonna get back to Jacob Ritz. Okay, so, Jacob Ritz, tell us a little bit about. See, I'm so bad. I'm so bad at interviewing people. Jacob, you can also just jump in. So Jacob is a photographer who went to the Nude School in New York City. Laughing Jacob's. Jacob studied photography at the New School in Manhattan. Did you ever run into Tim Gunn at the New School?
Jacob Ritz
Did I ever run to who?
Bob the Drag Queen
Did you ever run into Tim Gunn at the New School.
Monet X Change
He was in the fashion part.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, well.
Jacob Ritz
So when Product Runway was being filmed, the New School had a property in Times Square that was. They were using for fashion, but then they sold it before I enrolled there.
Bob the Drag Queen
So didn't Tim Gunn teach at the New School? Wasn't he, like, a professor there?
Jacob Ritz
I don't think so. That's possible. Also, like, the fashion students at the New School were like, their entirely own, like, other little world. And, like, we never saw them because they were just sewing all day.
Bob the Drag Queen
So it's such a big school.
Monet X Change
Right? Like, I imagine you wouldn't. You had no crossover with these people.
Jacob Ritz
Yeah, yeah. No, I didn't really see the fashion kids. Like, we were more like, there was an art building, and we were in the art building with all the art people.
Bob the Drag Queen
Tim Gunn. Tim Gunn has clocked more classroom hours than viewers may realize. He began teaching in 1978 at the Corcoran College of Art and Design, where he studied sculpture for four years. Later, he moved to Parsons New School for Design. So he was a professor. He was a professor at Parsons. Pop off.
Monet X Change
I was telling Bob the other day that I am kind of obsessed with your mom.
Jacob Ritz
Oh, Rose.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, Rose is an icon.
Monet X Change
I'm. I'm just obsessed with Rose. I think Rose is so cute. I think she's so funny. She just. She's just like, she's a. Rose seems like she'll be a good. Like, she'll be a good mom to have growing up. She seemed like she'd be a great
Jacob Ritz
mom, you know, I think I think so. I would. I would agree with that.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can you tell the Dorothy dress story?
Jacob Ritz
Oh, yeah. For Hanukkah one year, I think I was maybe five or six. One of my presents that I knew ahead of time was a Dorothy dress.
Monet X Change
How did you know? Did you sneak and look at it in the closet?
Jacob Ritz
I think it was my sister's. And then I was getting it after. I don't fully remember got it, but I found it in my mom's closet. I opened it and started wearing it around the house. And my mom was like, what are you doing? That's your Hanukkah present. I was like, but I wanna know. And she was like, that's not how it works. So then they took it away, and then I didn't get a Veronica wor.
Monet X Change
Yes, that's a great lesson.
Bob the Drag Queen
Also, Rose Ritz was apparently obsessed with jumping out from behind things and scaring people. Like, for, like. Rose, didn't she, like, hide in a closet one time for a long time and scare someone?
Jacob Ritz
My family is very big on bits and pranks, and we take April Fool's Day very seriously. So it's not that my mom specifically
Bob the Drag Queen
enjoys scaring people watching, like, walk around the house.
Jacob Ritz
One time for April Fool's Day, she did an extended bit where she hid in my sister's closet for three hours to pretend to be a monster when my sister was like, 14 to scare her. So, yes, my mom did a very long, extended bit that involved hiding my sister's closet on April Fool's Day to surprise her. And honestly, it paid off for three hours.
Bob the Drag Queen
Why couldn't she leave the closet?
Jacob Ritz
You know, the story is that it was three hours. I don't know how long it actually was.
Monet X Change
I would.
Bob the Drag Queen
Even if it was one hour. That's crazy.
Monet X Change
I would. Girl, even for 20 minutes is long.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can we include a picture of Rose wrist right here? Would she be weird about that?
Jacob Ritz
I'll ask her. Sometimes when Bob is around the house, I'll hide from him, and then he'll just have to find me.
Monet X Change
Oh, girl. I scare Andy all the time because Andy's.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's not just hiding, Jacob, like, so I will. Like, we'll be in the living room, and then I'll go to the kitchen and I'll come back and Jacob will be gone. Not to jump out and hide me, but he just will not. He'll. He will have vanished, and I'll be like, jacob, Jacob, where are. So I now am on a hide and seek. I have now been inserted into a game of Hide and seek without my knowledge. And I have to find Jacob. And Jacob is particularly tiny, so I have to find him in the house somewhere. Hiding under a couch, behind a curtain, in a closet, on a rack, on an elf, with a shelf, on a plane, with a train.
Monet X Change
Well, I. I mean, I do some things too, but Andy swears I walk lightly in the home. I'm like, no, I'm just not stomping around the house. So, like, if, like, he's downstairs in the kitchen, I will literally. Andy's in, you know, where the kitchen is. I'm coming downstairs walking normally, and I like, he, like, turn in the fridge to get something. By the time he turns back around, I'm there. And I'll be like, hey.
Jacob Ritz
Like, ah.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm like, valid.
Jacob Ritz
I do that with Bob all the time. Bob Valid shows scaredy of everything. I can walk behind him in the kitchen and he will scream, valid.
Bob the Drag Queen
Super valid. And by the way, Jacob does not have a particularly dainty gait. So I do not know how Jacob is always sneaking up on me, but there are times where, like this man, I will look back. Also, Jacob is low key below my sight line, right? So I turn around and Jacob is just standing there with an iced coffee. Okay.
Monet X Change
He's not that far below your sight line. He's not on the ground.
Bob the Drag Queen
If we're standing close to each other, he's below my sight line.
Monet X Change
I don't think that's how that works because this is still in my sight line down here. And Jacob is not that. Where did Jacob meet you?
Jacob Ritz
Jacob?
Monet X Change
Where do you meet Bob? On. At his titties.
Jacob Ritz
Yeah. Like mid chest.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. So now what?
Monet X Change
I think it's very cute that y' all did a virtual Hanukkah this year. I would like y' all to invite me next year because I think I want to participate. But.
Jacob Ritz
Oh, I mean, we're lighting candles Tomorrow morning at 9:00am Pacific Time if you want to join.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, no, back out now.
Monet X Change
Let me see. That's noon my time, which means I will be.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, I have your schedule. Don't lie.
Monet X Change
I'll be sucking dick at that time. I have an appointment tomorrow.
Bob the Drag Queen
So you had an opportunity to come to the menorah lighting, and instead you're choosing.
Monet X Change
Well, y' all told me today. Y' all told me. Y' all gave me less than. Less than 24 hours.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, okay, you.
Jacob Ritz
You.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're acting like they sprung this on you. You asked to be invited.
Monet X Change
What about Monday?
Bob the Drag Queen
You asked to be invited, and then you're like, Y' all sprung this on me last minute asking to be invited. And they say they sprung it on you is peak Monat behavior.
Monet X Change
So the other day after Christmas at my house, we all played Smash Brothers. And y', all, when I tell you I mopped the fuck.
Jacob Ritz
Oh, yeah, you were practicing.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I will say this was one of Monet's best showings in smash. That being said, these days I only play Smash with Monat. I mean, this is a lot of it's on me. I cannot get my switch to. I. I have not turned my switch on in months. And the other day I tried to turn it on to play Smash at home by myself, but I had to download Smash. It had undownloaded off my. Off my switch. But Monet knows when I get back in that gym, when I get back in the training, there's. There's nothing she can do. Monet knows that when I get back to training, she's cooked.
Monet X Change
I'm hearing a whole lot of this. And for all our listeners, I'm moving my hands like a puppet. I'm hearing a lot of this. Bob's lips are doing this a lot.
Bob the Drag Queen
And what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do when me and Jacob clown you next time?
Jacob Ritz
You and Jacob.
Monet X Change
First of all, you and Jacob after
Bob the Drag Queen
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Jacob Ritz
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Jacob Ritz
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Bob the Drag Queen
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Monet X Change
When I tell y' all we played about. We played 10 or 11 rounds. I won every last one of them.
Bob the Drag Queen
You did a good job.
Monet X Change
I walked away with like 50 something wins. I mean, kills. It was insane.
Bob the Drag Queen
You did a good job. But the question is we better do it next time.
Monet X Change
And y', all. That's Bob's thing. Every time Bob is like, do you think. He's like, do you think you're gonna
Bob the Drag Queen
win the next round?
Monet X Change
You think I'd win the rest in the next round? I was like, I mean, I don't know. Maybe.
Bob the Drag Queen
But the fun thing about me is, I would say this. I am not a sore loser. Sometimes losing is funny. Sometimes talking shit is funnier when you're way behind. But when I do win, it is everyone's problem. Just like Monet, by the way. Monet is the same way. She won't admit it. Monet, you're just as bad as me, if not worse.
Monet X Change
I don't think that's true. Jacob and I, we're both Pisces.
Jacob Ritz
That's brought up how you won so much over all of us.
Bob the Drag Queen
And by the way, everybody, every by the way, after everybody was like, is anyone even going to attempt to try to be as good as me? Monet, you are as bad. You are as a. As. As abysmal of a winner as I am.
Monet X Change
That's not true. That's because. I only do that because Jacob and Bob. Well, not Jacob so much. Bob has gone on this podcast, like, remember that time when Jacob scrubbed you on Jacob? Because you did that? So now I feel the need to, you know, to make my wins and my highs and.
Bob the Drag Queen
What's your part in this?
Monet X Change
Here we go. Jacob does both did this to you? Ask you what's your part in stuff?
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob, don't act like this. You know, that's mostly true. Jacob, don't act like this. Me and Jacob don't have this problem. This is a you. This is a you thing, honey.
Monet X Change
So I have a question about the Gay Men's Chorus. So how often. How often do y' all rehearse?
Jacob Ritz
Once a week.
Monet X Change
For how long? What did it take to prepare for this concert?
Jacob Ritz
Like, three months. We started in September, October, November, and then. So four months. Our spring one is only a three. Three months rehearsal, though.
Monet X Change
That's a lot. That's a lot of music to get done in the. And. And only in three months of what? That. So that's 12 weeks of rehearsal. That's a lot.
Jacob Ritz
Yeah. I mean, we have some bonus rehearsals you can go to if you want, but.
Monet X Change
Yes, all the rehearsals are mandatory.
Jacob Ritz
Oh, no, all the Monday ones are mandatory. You can skip. You can miss three rehearsals, and then you have the opportunity to make up for those for both by doing bonus weekend rehearsals that are optional.
Bob the Drag Queen
I try to Get Monet to start a drag queen Gorge. But I have a new idea. Oh my goodness. What if Monet does a drag takeover of the gay men's course? What does that look like?
Jacob Ritz
I feel like if I want to see drag, I want to see it done well. And I feel like it's hard to do that much drag on a good scale and have it be fierce.
Bob the Drag Queen
So hear me out. Everyone in the chorus gets a drag queen sponsor. Or. Or one queen can sponsor two people.
Monet X Change
I laugh with nobody in the rank. But a lot of queens cannot translate.
Bob the Drag Queen
Not you.
Monet X Change
I'm saying. But a lot of queens a cannot translate. Like do other people's makeup. I don't think that's the thing that. You know what I mean? And how do solos work? I don't know if this is inside situation for that. You have to audition for them.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Jacob Ritz
You audition for solos.
Monet X Change
Got it.
Jacob Ritz
But they want to do something with you if you are interested.
Monet X Change
I'll be so down to do something with the gaming's chorus. I would love to sing a piece. I would love to conduct something. Because I did go. I did have bachelor's of music in music education, which I took a whole conduct a. I want to conduct a piece.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. There's like a hundred people up there, right? So everyone is. How many, Jacob? 100 or so. 110.
Jacob Ritz
Yeah. We have 300 members. And like, I think our last show maybe had a hundred people. 100 something.
Bob the Drag Queen
So every queen doesn't need to be plastique tiara. You know what I mean? Everyone doesn't have to be plastique tiara. What I'm saying is everyone's wearing a similar hair color or a similar hairstyle. There's something unifying or. Or matching dresses. Maybe they can wear their own hair however they want to wear their hair. But they're all wearing matching dresses. Yuki, Everyone gets a drag queen sponsor. And I think. I really think this might be one of the biggest shows in the history. Monet. Hear me out. Monet. Exchange host the drag.
Jacob Ritz
The.
Bob the Drag Queen
The. The. What do you call it? Once every 10 years.
Jacob Ritz
Oh, so you don't have anything to do with this?
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I can't. I'm not really. I don't know much about chorus. Like Monet's world.
Monet X Change
I mean, decognal. How do we just say. Because centennial is a. Is a hundred is a hundred. So decade would be a decognial decadent.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. So the decognal. Whatever. Once every 10 years. Drag queen, gay men's drag queen, chorus show. Whatever. Everyone's in drag. They have. Give them five years to prepare for. I don't know. I don't care what. Give them time.
Jacob Ritz
Decennial.
Monet X Change
Decennial.
Bob the Drag Queen
So they all have time to prepare for it. They're all up in drags. Monet Exchange is hosting. Monet starts off with a. With a. With a high upbeat. Monet does a beautiful rendition of Sissy. That walk. They all come out. Walk. Okay, I'm directing. Monet's hosting. I'm directing. So that's how I'm involved.
Monet X Change
I want to conduct.
Bob the Drag Queen
You can conduct, too. I just want to direct the show. I just want to. I just want to be part of the creative idea of the show. Right. Matching out.
Monet X Change
You do have very. You're. You're a very good director. You have a very good idea.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wear your hair and makeup however you want. We're going to end with a beautiful, gorgeous ballad. Right? We're also going to do. I think we're also going to do Mama, I'm a big Girl now. For sure.
Monet X Change
So now. So now. Okay, so now you're directing and programming
Bob the Drag Queen
the music with soloist. We're also going to do Make a man out of you. Somehow I'll. Mr.
Monet X Change
I make a man out of.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, no. Monet. Scratch. We're starting with We Are what We Are.
Monet X Change
We are what We Are.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wait a second, y'. All. Listen, listen. Okay, we have to go to a. We have to be at, like, the Pantages or something. They're all standing around the Palladium. We're hearing the YouTube Studio Stadium. We're hearing We Are what We Are. What we are is an illusion. Monet comes from the ground. Listen to me. Monet rises from the ground back to the audience wearing a beautiful stone gown. Stones. From the top of her neck to the bottom of her brand new FFS feet. Monet turns around she goes. And then it goes into a beautiful rendition of I Am what I Am. They rejoin her and start singing. We are what we Are. Monet says, welcome to the Disney Decennial Drag Queen Gay Men's Chorus Show. This will be the biggest selling show in the history of the Gay Men's Chorus. And you have Bob the Drag Queen and Moynet Exchange attached. I don't know why. Why they're not already writing a check. Because we're going to make some money, honey.
Monet X Change
Honestly, it sounds. I mean. I mean, I think a Decennial Drag Queen chorus show would be a lot of fun. That sounds a lot of fun. Um, I think there are a lot of moving parts. It'll be a lot. It'll be a lot to take on.
Bob the Drag Queen
So the ultimate question I have about this show, Jacob, is what is your drag name?
Jacob Ritz
Oh, my drag name. You know, here's the thing.
Monet X Change
A lot of. A lot of loads.
Jacob Ritz
I do have a drag name that I came up with, but also another drag queen in New York also came up with it and actually started doing drag. So I feel like I can't claim it, but the name that I like and really see for myself would be Hanukkah Lewinsky.
Monet X Change
Hanukkah Lewinsky's great.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's a good name.
Jacob Ritz
But I think I might have to go back to the drawing board because she is. She's a wonderful queen. Look her up on Instagram. She's great.
Bob the Drag Queen
Booker, didn't you once say your name would be like Edna? You do like old lady voice.
Jacob Ritz
I do think it would be objectively funny if there's. I guess I grew up around a lot of orthodox Jewish women who wore wigs. A lot of Jewish women. You can't let anyone see your hair. So they get around that by wearing wigs. So the really rich orthodox Jewish are wearing like the full units that look flawless and seamless. But also like, sometimes you are just like, are walking around, you see women wearing just like, like a kind of like a low key party city wig and it's kind of camp. And I do think it'd be funny if there was a drag queen who is like a Hasidic Jewish woman. But I think that's like a very niche thing and no one actually wants to see that.
Bob the Drag Queen
What's her name?
Jacob Ritz
For me, I think you would just like have a regular like Ethel. Like, like Ethel.
Monet X Change
Yeah, There was. There was that show that Cracker and Moshell used to do. Like, it was like. It was the Jewish show. The Jewish drag queen shows like Hebrew Nights or Hebro. Hebro. No, Hebrew was the. Was the promoting company, like the event playing. But it was like, I forget what the specific party was called. I always wanted to go, but it only lasted like two years and I knew of it and I didn't. Wasn't in New York. Then Pandemic happened. It went away. Or at least it wasn't for me.
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Monet X Change
Yeah, I mean, let's ask Jacob a question. I just forgot.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, getting to see Jacob in the game, of course, was really exciting for me. You know, when I met Jacob, he was performing out in San Francisco in a play called the Compton Cafeteria Riots. Also when I met Jacob, Jacob had long hair. When I met him, by the way. Really? Yeah.
Monet X Change
Like, how long?
Jacob Ritz
It was like, maybe down to here, and my hair gets curly when it gets out, so it. Like that kind of vibe, really?
Bob the Drag Queen
Almost kind of like Gene Simmons.
Monet X Change
No.
Bob the Drag Queen
A little bit, yeah. The hair was.
Monet X Change
I can't even picture that.
Bob the Drag Queen
And one day I came home and from work, and Jacob was wearing one of my wigs. And I honestly just didn't think anything of it. And Jacob was like, you're not gonna ask me why I'm wearing this wig? I was like, no, not really. You remember this, Jacob?
Jacob Ritz
Oh, yeah, I remember this.
Bob the Drag Queen
He was like, you're not gonna ask me why I'm wearing this wig? I was like, I don't know. I just thought you just had a wig on. Like, I guess in my world, it's not that crazy to wear a wig. And then Jacob pulled his wig off, and he had a buzz cut, and I was like, oh, my God. I was gagged.
Monet X Change
Oh, you buzzed it all up. Why did you buzz it all off? You just over it?
Jacob Ritz
Yeah. I find I. I liked having long hair, but also, like, I. I think learning to take care of hair is, like, a thing that takes a lot of time. And I realize most people who, like, have long hair kind of, like, grow up learning how to take care of it. And I was just like, this is not giving what I wanted it to give. When I grew my hair out, it just feels ratty and, like, a little wild. And it takes so much time and effort to, like, do every morning.
Monet X Change
Tell me about your decision, Jacob, to go from Android to iPhone.
Jacob Ritz
Oh, there's not a real decision, Mikey. My other partner, was doing a brand deal with Apple, and they gave him two iPhone 15s for free. So he gave me one, and I needed.
Monet X Change
And are you loving your experience on this side of the bastion?
Jacob Ritz
I like them both for different reasons. I think I prefer Android a little bit more than iPhone, to be honest. But, like, it is nice how integrated the iPhone is with all my other devices, because I do use my computer.
Monet X Change
So that's what I was thinking. Like, why doesn't. Cause Samsung is obviously a huge company. Why don't they start making computers and why don't they start, like, doing. Because they're Apple's direct competition.
Bob the Drag Queen
I feel like just start making computers as quad. Why don't you start making computers?
Monet X Change
I mean, they make fucking TV speakers. They make everything else.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, but they have. They have a. They have a hole on the TV market.
Jacob Ritz
To be very clear, Samsung does make computers.
Monet X Change
Do they see they see Bob, so they do already make them. That's not crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, but just start making computers is crazy. Just start making computers.
Monet X Change
I mean, if a company can find the resources and figure it out. Samsung, if they did not, it would not be a far fetched idea for Samsung to start making computers. That's not crazy. It's not like they're not in technology or.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think it is great. Which is why like when Apple decided to make cars, people are like, do y' all need to make. People are like, just start making Apple. You don't need to make cars. You remember, you remember they announced the Apple car and they are.
Monet X Change
They did. It's like a thing now. I think they're like, they really are doing it for real. Let me look it up.
Jacob Ritz
Have you taken a Waymo before?
Monet X Change
I have not.
Jacob Ritz
They're cute.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think I'm about to do one. Where are you going? I don't know. I just want to go somewhere in Waymo.
Jacob Ritz
Go to Monet's house. Oh, she's not there.
Monet X Change
Oh, wow. I mean, the designs for the Apple car look amazing. From 2014 until 2024 this year, Apple undertook a research and development effort to develop an electric and self driving car codenamed Project Titan.
Bob the Drag Queen
But it might.
Jacob Ritz
But wait, these are theoretical flops.
Monet X Change
Say it again.
Bob the Drag Queen
What are they gonna do if it flops?
Monet X Change
I don't know. I mean it looked cool, but what
Bob the Drag Queen
are some Apple flop products? I'm sure there's been some.
Monet X Change
Ah, that fucking Division Pro that flopped. Kind of.
Bob the Drag Queen
Ooh, the Vision Pro did low key flop hard, didn't it?
Monet X Change
I think we're. But I mean Meta is making one that's apparently gonna be like fierce.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I think all the. Like, you remember Google Glass?
Monet X Change
Google Glass, yeah, I remember that.
Bob the Drag Queen
All the eyewear stuff kind of flops. It always flops.
Monet X Change
No, but Meta's making like something, like they're developing something now that's gonna be like fierce.
Bob the Drag Queen
Don't they own Oculus?
Monet X Change
That is Meta. But then someone came out with the glasses. Who's in the glasses? The Ray Bans. I think that's Meta.
Jacob Ritz
Yeah, Meta is doing it with the Ray Bans.
Monet X Change
Yeah, they come out with something else. I was talking to Andy. I was like, what do you guys think? What do you guys think the next big thing is gonna take over? Like, you know, like you had. How AI is doing a thing now? Like, I feel like. I feel like hologram. Sorry. Like cell phones were like in the past 20 years. What? Cell phones are really like barely a Thing that we all have a big technological advance. I think it's gonna be holograms.
Jacob Ritz
I think VR will probably be there first before holograms. Yeah. I mean, I think we're close to VR. I think eventually somebody is gonna do the right product, the right concept that people is gonna click with people and it's gonna work and feel like we can integrate into our lives.
Bob the Drag Queen
I think what it is about the Apple Vision Pro that it's like, it is so like you can't go anywhere with it. Right. So it's also. You can't go. I mean, you can go out in the world, but you look crazy. The difference between wearing an Apple watch or a pair of Ray Ban glasses versus having a helmet on your head like goggles. The size of a helmet on you look like you. Like you're from the MCU and you have nanotechnology. You know what I mean? Like, like, like the Black Panther's mask was smaller than this. You were in this giant thing on your head in person. It just. I could imagine feel. You can see through it. I can imagine feeling way too self conscious to wear this giant thing on your head when you're walking around. So I think that's part of. And also none of them have integrated with, to my knowledge anyway, with the major players in the gaming industry. So none of them are working with, with Sony. None of them are working with Nintendo. None of them are working with any of these people.
Jacob Ritz
Right.
Bob the Drag Queen
But if Microsoft, if they. Yeah, Microsoft. But if some of them, you know, gang, gang then got up with Fortnite. If you could play Fortnite on with the headset, I think people would be much more into it than playing no shade the games they have for these. I mean, I like the one with the, with, with the, the. The boxes light. The saber game is really fun. And there was a one where you like shoot people and you try to avoid the, the, the, the lines of the gun. Yeah, but the games, they're not great.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I think, I think that's the, that's the, that's the way to get into it for like massive bills. Especially for children or people who like purchase. Who want this stuff is start making like Nintendo needs to. Even Nintendo took on this virtual reality thing and augmented reality, whatever you had a headset you can be playing Mario Kart with or smash or fucking. What's the boomerang? Boomerang fu like? I think that's when people will be like, oh shit. I think games are the first avenue that they need to take on, like,
Bob the Drag Queen
first person boomerang food would be crazy.
Monet X Change
Like, you see the boomerang coming, you're like. But then. But then you have to go to a place to make sure you're not bumping into your fucking table and your chandelier and shit.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean. Jacob, did you enjoy the Oculus?
Jacob Ritz
I thought it was fun as, like, I liked Superhot, the one shooting game that was the most fun I had with it. Most of the other applications that I tried it for didn't feel, like, super great, but it also felt like it was a graphics thing for me. Like, you could watch a movie on it, but, like, watching Netflix on it was lower quality graphics than if I just watched it on my computer. And there was no reason, like, to watch it in worse graphics on, I guess a bigger virtual screen. Like, that didn't feel like enough of a draw. Where is our talking to the VR porn? And it was also not incredibly great.
Monet X Change
Yeah, Andy likes VR porn. That's crazy to say, but, like, I think Andy has done it once or twice before, and he's like, yo, that's crazy.
Jacob Ritz
To be fair.
Bob the Drag Queen
Where is our Oculus?
Jacob Ritz
I didn't want to pay for it, so I was also looking at whatever was free out there. And, like, maybe I was. That's also the bottom of the barrel. But it's also. It's strange.
Bob the Drag Queen
Where is our Oculus? I have it.
Jacob Ritz
It's on the shelf below the gaming tv.
Bob the Drag Queen
Got it. I have not used anything in forever. It was like, it had a hot month, and then we were like, I can't.
Monet X Change
Yeah, someone sent it for free in
Jacob Ritz
a promo package, which is wild.
Monet X Change
Yeah, me too. I got mine for free in a promo package, and then I went to
Bob the Drag Queen
go look at the new Oculus when it came out, and this really handsome guy. Do you remember this Jacob? This really cute guy at Best Buy?
Jacob Ritz
I hooked up with him. We talked about this.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's right.
Jacob Ritz
He was trying to help, like, somebody I met on Grindr, and we, like, hooked up. And then randomly, he was like, the Oculus spokesperson at a Best Buy. And then I was like, I almost bought it, probably.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was like, I almost bought Oculus. I didn't even need one. If a. If a cute person tries to sell me something, I will probably buy it. I'm not gonna lie to you. If y' all send a cute person my way, I will probably buy.
Jacob Ritz
Is that where we have those giant heavy plates?
Monet X Change
Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes. This cute guy sold me a. A plateware set. That Monet. Do I look like a Girl in the plate wear?
Monet X Change
No.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I got this. This giant bowl. And I mean, I don't. I mean, you can go grab one. Jacob. I. I don't know how particularly cute the plate wear is, but I will say this. It is durable. I've had that plate wear since we filmed the first episode of We're Here four years ago. Not a chip, not a ding, not a nothing. They're actually genuinely great. Handmade. It's one plate and one bowl.
Monet X Change
How much was that?
Bob the Drag Queen
Maybe like 200 bucks.
Monet X Change
For a plate and a bowl?
Bob the Drag Queen
They're handmade.
Monet X Change
Must be nice.
Bob the Drag Queen
And he was cute.
Monet X Change
Spending $200 on a plate and a bowl is crazy.
Jacob Ritz
We have seven chocolates in it right now.
Monet X Change
I can't. Girl, that's just so pickful. I don't know what that shit look like.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's a nice bowl. I like the bowl. I genuinely like the bowl. I would never spend much money on the bowl again.
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Jacob Ritz
Were you yugioh or Pokemon kids?
Monet X Change
I was. I played Pokemon. But I did watch. I thought, Yu Gi oh. I like the Yu Gi oh show. What I hate about those shows, they were always cliffhangers, which, I get it, they want you to tune in every. Every day after school. But I'm like, can we stop? Like Dragon Ball Z was. The wor episode of Dragon Ball z was about 10 minutes long after all the commercials. And it was also like, they would get into like a second of fighting or like this for 10 minutes. And then on next week, that shit was so retaining. But I was A Pokemon girly.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was a Yu Gi oh girly, but I never played the card game. It was too confusing for me. But the TV show I loved watching. Do what?
Monet X Change
The math, the one plus one and all that stuff was too much for you?
Bob the Drag Queen
Probably. I don't know. And then I did a lot of
Jacob Ritz
math in Yu Gi oh wasn't there.
Bob the Drag Queen
But I really. But I really enjoyed the TV show. And I was always weirded out that no one ever addressed that Yu Gi oh just became a grown ass man for moments at a time. Like there's this little kid. All of a sudden Yu Gi oh is just a full on grown ass man. Everyone's like, yep, there's Yu Gi oh. He's grown now. No one ever addressed that part of the plot.
Jacob Ritz
Yeah, there was like, I forget the exact vibe, but like Yu Gi oh has like ties to like an ancient Egyptian prince who's like the dual monster prince person. And they're tied through the necklace that he wears or something. So he's like being his. The ancient prince is like coming into him or something. Like there's some personality swap there. He's like channeling the ancient prince.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, but I feel like it was, it was never really. I mean you would see, you would see the necklace light up. But, but people, but people who had just met Yu Gi oh, who had never challenged him, were like, oh, I'm challenging this kid. And now this grown ass man is looking at me.
Jacob Ritz
I could be wrong, but I also think it's only like to us, the viewer, like, I think he's presenting a kid to everybody. And that's just to show the shift that's happened. But I could be wrong.
Monet X Change
Yeah. Bob Duh.
Bob the Drag Queen
Monat, shut the hell up. You literally have no clue.
Monet X Change
Like duh. Like we. Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't.
Monet X Change
I can't.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm about to Dark mage you bitch. I'm about to blue ass white dragon you honey.
Monet X Change
Oh my God. The blue. I think what was the most powerful trigger? What were you?
Jacob Ritz
Oh, I was a Pokemon kid. Yu Gi oh happened. But my parents already spent money on Pokemon cards for me and they were like, we're not doing another one of these. You gotta stick to Pokemon girl. So I had a Yu Gi oh deck that was made from sad discarded Pokemon like Yu Gi oh cards that my friends gave me that they didn't want.
Monet X Change
Damn. Did you ever have any holographic Pokemon cards?
Jacob Ritz
Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. I sell my old Pokemon cards. Yeah, I did them.
Monet X Change
Sell em. They're worth a lot of Money, aren't they?
Jacob Ritz
No, I went through. I did them. My magic cards actually are worth a bunch. I made $500 selling all my magic cards in college.
Monet X Change
You played Magic the Gathering?
Jacob Ritz
Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I tried Magic the Gathering in high school, but I couldn't. I couldn't afford any. Any cards. And I did not have anyone to play with. I was. We were very much brokies. Very much broke. That's clocked. And whenever I tried to play, also at my school, there were not very many people playing Magic the Gathering. There were a few people playing. There were a few people playing Pokemon. But Magic the Gathering, like poke. I feel like this is the levels of nerdiness. Pokemon. Yu Gi. Oh, Magic the Gathering.
Jacob Ritz
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
And then way above that is Dungeons and Dragons. And there were just not a lot of Magic the Gathering girlies in my school. Lots of Pokemon girlies. But. And also, I mean, I don't want to say out loud that the Gathering isn't a black people game, but at my black school, they were not playing
Monet X Change
Magic the Gathering because it was too dangerous. They didn't like how dangerous it was.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, it just didn't catch. It just didn't catch. Wind. Magic Gathering just never caught wind, you know.
Monet X Change
Damn. Yeah. I wasn't aware of any of the magic or D and D until college. I didn't know those even games. I didn't know it was even a thing that existed.
Jacob Ritz
Was the first time you played D and D with Dropout?
Bob the Drag Queen
Mm. First time ever and it's. And my second time was with Dropout.
Monet X Change
My first time playing Smash though was in college in the freshman lounge with a freshman sophomore lounge. They had a gamecube there. And that's when they had Melee. And that's the first time I first. But before that I was really into GameCube. Like I had beautiful Joe, Mario Kart, Double Dash, a lot of those like gamecube games.
Jacob Ritz
You gotta bring back Double Dash. Double Dash was.
Monet X Change
Double Dash was so good.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let me be honest. And this is a judging look by the COVID thing, but I never got in a gamecube because I thought the console looked ugly because it was a cube.
Jacob Ritz
Those kind of look kind of wild.
Bob the Drag Queen
I thought it looked ugly. What do you want from me? I was like, this is an ugly looking console. I don't want to buy it. Like the PlayStation looks so good. Oh my God. And by the way, the best looking PlayStation is the PlayStation 2. I don't like that.
Monet X Change
I think PlayStation 1 was the coolest one. It was sweet.
Bob the Drag Queen
When they turned her on her side and painted it black, I said, we're living in the future, you know, you
Jacob Ritz
can get the 30th anniversary, play PlayStation on eBay, can you?
Monet X Change
But it's probably like a million dollars, is it not?
Jacob Ritz
I. It was going for like 700, but really being sold for like 8,000. I don't know if it's the one you want, but you should look into it.
Monet X Change
Yes, I won the 30th anniversary. Yes, that's what I want.
Bob the Drag Queen
What I find weird about it is Jacob said it looked like an original PlayStation. I was like, I thought it was going to actually look like there was like it was going to be like back on its side with.
Monet X Change
No, it's the colors. The colors.
Bob the Drag Queen
They could, they could have done that.
Monet X Change
I mean, for all that it does. I think it's too small like Bob. I saw. Cause so when we went to. Andy and I went to the Rose Bowl, Flea and they have this company, I don't know the company's name, but they basically take like the old, the first iPhone, BlackBerrys, Nokias, old systems and they break and they basically put it in like a glass and they pull all the pieces apart and it looks really cool. And it had a PlayStation 1 there, girl. Well, I tell you the thing, it's like this thin and like this big. They're small. And what with the processes and stuff, there's no way they can make them
Bob the Drag Queen
that small right now. Scale it up, just make it bigger.
Monet X Change
Maybe they could, but I mean, yeah, I don't know.
Bob the Drag Queen
What is the most beautiful console you ever had? For me, the most beautiful console I ever owned was a SEGA Saturn, baby.
Monet X Change
This, I didn't have that.
Bob the Drag Queen
The Sega Saturn was a baddie. Look it up right now. The Sega Saturn was a full on baddie, honey. By the way, no one had, no one had a SEGA Saturn. I didn't have any friends to play to switch games with. Me and Justin were the only kids in school with a SEGA Saturn.
Monet X Change
Sega Saturn.
Bob the Drag Queen
I love the way this. I thought this looked so cool.
Monet X Change
And just a heads up for bitch, I want eBay. The 30th anniversary bundle is the cheapest I've seen is 3. $3,500. That's crazy. Anyway, continue.
Bob the Drag Queen
Said Amazon, not ebay.
Monet X Change
He said ebay.
Jacob Ritz
I said ebay.
Bob the Drag Queen
You said ebay.
Jacob Ritz
Oh, well, this one right here is for. This one right here is for 665.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let me tell you right now. Let me tell you right now. Jacob will be. Jacob be finding stuff, baby. Jacob had us a PS5 in no time.
Monet X Change
Well, here's the thing. Here's the thing about. Here's the thing about, like, these people, though. How do you know that's a reputable person? What if I ordered that shit? Bitch. A fucking bag.
Bob the Drag Queen
They have reviews.
Jacob Ritz
I mean, you look at their seller reviews versus how much they've sold. So this person has 100% reviews and 10 sales, which maybe I would probably want a little bit more than that, but.
Monet X Change
Yeah, well, stay with that link, Jacob. Sorry. Okay. I didn't mean to.
Bob the Drag Queen
What's the last thing you bought on ebay?
Monet X Change
I don't think I've ever purchased anything from ebay.
Bob the Drag Queen
Really?
Monet X Change
Never? No, I know what it was. This is in college. I bought. Remember that? I bought an Isaibee.
Bob the Drag Queen
What is that?
Monet X Change
It was a little robot dog.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, those little dogs. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Monet X Change
I bought an eye cybe. Like, I want to say, like, maybe like my senior year of high school or first year of college, something like that.
Jacob Ritz
Who had one of those robo dogs in the Runway of Drag Race?
Monet X Change
They did.
Bob the Drag Queen
Who had that?
Jacob Ritz
Oh, it was sugar or spice, I think.
Monet X Change
Oh, gosh.
Jacob Ritz
It's like the little robot diet. That's what I was thinking of.
Bob the Drag Queen
What was your last ebay purchase, Jacob?
Jacob Ritz
Let me look. I think it was a Pokemon card
Bob the Drag Queen
before these RuPaul shoes. My last purchase was a bottle of Faberge, an antique perfume, an antique cologne called Faberge Antique Cologne.
Monet X Change
Why did you want an antique cologne?
Bob the Drag Queen
So I bought a bottle of cologne for a. So this character, this guy named Danny Benstock, was in the play, and his character wore Faberge in the 80s. So I went online and I found a bottle of Faberge. It was very hard to find to give him as a gift. Be like, oh, this is your character's cologne. Because the big thing about I wear Faberge. So I bought him a bottle of Faberge as a gift. And it was low key, leaking. So, like, the apartment just smelled, like, old. It didn't smell old. It just felt like very strong cologne for like a week. And then I gave him this gift, but he was kind of gagged. He was like, oh, my God, it's Faberge. Like, they don't even make this anymore interesting.
Monet X Change
Not a bottle of Faberge. That's hilarious.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I think it's supposed to be, like, nice cologne maybe, or something.
Monet X Change
Faberge, Monet.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
I wear cologne. I wear. I mean, so I bought a bottle of. This is like, when it was, like, so super popular, like five or six, seven years ago. I bought a bottle of Santal. 30. 30, 33, 32. I've had that for a long time, but I've switched to another 13 for, like, the past, like, two or three years. But they last forever. Those bottles are expensive, but they last forever.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wasn't I with you when you bought some?
Monet X Change
Maybe.
Bob the Drag Queen
Or were you buying diffusers? Like, you were in that place next to that. Next to the cake shop. Yeah, yeah.
Monet X Change
You were there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. I love when we do little outings together.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Why don't we go get cake? Oh, you and. You and Andy were eating cake.
Monet X Change
I mean, I think I just wanted a slice of cake.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, it was. It was a whole. It was a whole thing. You and Andy were having, like, a cake night, and you were. You're gonna buy cake for you. And it wasn't just like, I want cake. It was like, me and Andy Monet. Be like me and Andy. Well, we eat cake on Thursdays.
Monet X Change
Okay, now, you know I don't do such shit like that.
Bob the Drag Queen
You'd be like, well, every Thursday, me and Andy. Listen, we watch a movie, but what we like to do, we close our eyes and one of us scrolls through Amazon and whatever it lands on, well, that's what we watch.
Jacob Ritz
Monet, what are your favorite? Go to la. DNA restaurants.
Monet X Change
Do what? Gay. Gay. Gay restaurants?
Jacob Ritz
No, date night.
Monet X Change
Oh, okay. So we go eat a lot. There's. I was like, gay.
Bob the Drag Queen
Amy and I, we go to restaurants on dates.
Monet X Change
So. We used to love Bavel. Bavelle was a restaurant. We went to downtown Bavel. It's like a Mediterranean place. It was really good the first two times. We were really good. We went for a third time recently, and it wasn't good. So there's that. Let me. Let me go.
Jacob Ritz
So much of how I enjoy restaurant depends on where I'm seating, sitting.
Monet X Change
I could see that.
Jacob Ritz
Sometimes I've got to restaurants and I've been like, this is great. And then I've gone back to the same one. I've got, like, one of those sandwich. I feel like sometimes when you go out, you're just like, sandwiched in, like, a tiny area with two people, and it's not the fantasy.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Jacob Ritz
Why?
Bob the Drag Queen
Restaurants stress me out.
Monet X Change
Well, I mean, not in LA so much. I feel like in New York, that was my experience a lot. But in la, I feel like a lot of places have a lot of space, so it's normally pretty good.
Bob the Drag Queen
They got really happy during the lockdown when they started putting those little street. Street diner, sidewalk.
Monet X Change
Sidewalk seating.
Bob the Drag Queen
Because there's always so much more space. You're not. You're not being blasted with music. So eating at Jacob's pickles in the street, that's. That is the. That is the experience I prefer versus being. Cause Jacobs pickles is so dark. I feel like I'm in a dungeon when I'm in there eating.
Jacob Ritz
That's crazy.
Monet X Change
That's. I disagree.
Bob the Drag Queen
To me, it feels very, very dark. I'm like, this is. It's very dark in here. And the music is always so loud. Like we're screaming.
Monet X Change
Not screaming. Screaming at me, saying, it's very dark. Hair is crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, they turn the volume up so you won't want to stay long.
Monet X Change
I don't think that's true.
Bob the Drag Queen
It is true. I worked at restaurants. It's a whole thing. It's part of. It's part of the design of restaurants. Restaurants are not designed to make you want to stay long. They're designed to make you want to leave as soon as you're done eating so they can. So they can flip your table and turn a profit.
Monet X Change
There's. Wait. I feel like. I feel like we've never, like, between you and Jacob, Andy and I, we've never went on a double date. We should go on a double date. Or a Quinn. A Quinn date with Mikey. And also.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. If you want to.
Jacob Ritz
Yum, yum.
Monet X Change
Since both of them like restaurants. Where are we? Where the fuck are we gonna go?
Jacob Ritz
We go to Bakari.
Monet X Change
I love Bakri. Bakkeri is a great restaurant.
Jacob Ritz
Andy doesn't love probably Bakari's overlay because it's a little bit more chill. On the Hollywood one, that was.
Monet X Change
I feel like that one is louder. The one in Hollywood, I feel like is a little more tan. The one in Silver Lake is crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
If y' all are interested in my input, I would love to go to somewhere like Universal Studios. I would like to maybe go to someplace where we don't have to be, like, inside of a restaurant. There's so many things we can do. You know what I mean?
Monet X Change
Universal Studios in LA is so whack. It's.
Jacob Ritz
I want to go to Mario World, though.
Monet X Change
I mean, I'll be down to go. I just feel so.
Jacob Ritz
Have you been to Mario World yet?
Monet X Change
I haven't.
Jacob Ritz
Oh, no. Yeah. I want to see Mario World, but,
Monet X Change
like, I feel like there's not anything super attractive. Like, I feel, like, missed opportunity for Mario World to not do a live, like a big VR Smash Brothers or Mario Kart where you can, like, drive a thing. Like, I'M like, how? Like, missed opportunity. Why didn't someone do that?
Jacob Ritz
I mean, that is the ride there. It's a Mario Kart ride that you
Monet X Change
drive, one of those virtual ones you sit in. It's like a roller coaster ride. I'm like, talking about, like a real one. Like, four people can sit and you, like, you're in a. You're on a track that doesn't. The car doesn't move, but the track moves under it. So you can drive, you can turn and stuff like that.
Bob the Drag Queen
You mean like a roller coaster?
Monet X Change
Huh?
Bob the Drag Queen
Like a roller coaster?
Monet X Change
No, you're on a. You have a virtual helmet on, and you're in the car, and it's on like a treadmill, basically. So your car can drive and you can go fast and slow down. You can turn, but you're in the virtual. You're in the virtual world of it, if that makes sense. So you're in the car.
Jacob Ritz
Disney had a virtual reality thing in Florida called Disney Quest, and they had a virtual. Like, you put on a headset and you got on, like, a fake motorbike. And then you, like, you looked around and you were on a magic carpet. And it was like a magic carpet racing game.
Monet X Change
That. Something like that for. For my car would have been fierce.
Bob the Drag Queen
That feels like a great way to get head lice.
Jacob Ritz
You know, I didn't get them, but I see that for her.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I don't think I'd have to worry about head lice. I don't think head lice is really a problem for me. But if you are a person who is prone to head lice, that can sound like a great way to get it.
Monet X Change
I mean, I feel like it'd be. It's probably easier to get a fucking athlete switch on bowling shoes. But. But these places, they figure out a way to dist.
Bob the Drag Queen
So you disinfect them and you have to wear socks.
Monet X Change
Yeah. And I think for. I've been to places where you had to, like when you do, like, one of those streetcar things or bumper cars, a helmet. They have a little helmet condom you can put on.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't really worry about headlights because it doesn't really affect me.
Monet X Change
What do you say, Jacob?
Jacob Ritz
There's a weird period of time when, like, they were trying to make. I don't know if they're still doing this. They were trying to make, like, scooters. Like, sorry. Like City Bike, but scooters. Like in New York, everyone. You had a helmet that was like a helmet scooter that you put on. I remember that's crazy to me.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I remember it was. It was the blue Revel scooters.
Jacob Ritz
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if there's something.
Bob the Drag Queen
So why are there no helmets for the bikes?
Monet X Change
Because by the bike is not a law. I think when you're on a motorized thing, there's a law to have a helmet on, but I think the bike wasn't. I'm guessing because Citibike you don't have to wear helmets, but the Revel, by law you had to have a helmet to even operate it. You have to take a picture with
Jacob Ritz
you with it on liability thing. I think if you're wearing. If Citibrisk provides you with a helmet and then you accident, you can probably sue them. Whereas if you don't like. And it probably. The money you would make. I'm not explaining myself well. The money you would make for potentially suing city bike versus whatever the motorcycle company is probably more. Because more people might get into bike accidents.
Bob the Drag Queen
Because in New York City, you absolutely must wear a. Yes, you must wear a helmet when riding a bike in New York City, if you're a. If you're a child under 14 or a commercial cyclist. Interesting. So if you are working, you have to wear a helmet, and if you're under 14, you do. But other folks don't have to wear helmets.
Monet X Change
Yeah. Which I think is the best way to get around the city. A city bike is a great way to get around New York City. It's fucking perfect. Love that shit.
Jacob Ritz
That stresses me out. Just like driving next to so many cars like that is stressful.
Monet X Change
I love it. I put my headphones on, which is probably not safe. That is not a safe way to ride. But I put my headphones on. I live.
Bob the Drag Queen
What are you listening to?
Monet X Change
Whatever is popular right now. If I was to get on a city bike right now, which I won't because it's fucking cold. And you know what they don't tell you? Riding a bike in the winter without gloves on is torture. Your hands are falling off because it's so cold.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's why all the people on mopeds have those big things they make. They like basically make gloves, but they're giant. If you ever go to New York City, you'll see the Vespas. They all have these plastic bag boxing gloves. It looks like they're holding boxing gloves and they're attached to the steering wheel. You put your hands inside of that. Would you be right. Would you be right now being like loathing unadulterated Loathing for your face.
Monet X Change
Jacob, this is so nice having you on the podcast. Did you hate it or did you love it?
Bob the Drag Queen
So, Jacob, after five years, how did it feel? Did you feel nervous? Do you feel comfortable? How do you feel being on this side of the pod?
Jacob Ritz
You know, I feel good about it. I guess we'll have to read the YouTube comments to really get the full scope of it, because that's where you. That's when we really find out how much. How good a guest did on the podcast.
Bob the Drag Queen
Also, a lot of people. How many of you are seeing Jacob for the first time ever? For some reason, apparently, a lot of you thought Jacob was a redhead. This was a very popular theory online when the few times Jacob has popped up, they were like, I thought Jacob was a redhead. My fan fiction screaming, which is, I don't know, what about Jacob gives redhead?
Monet X Change
Yeah, I don't see it either.
Bob the Drag Queen
Have you ever heard red, Jacob?
Jacob Ritz
I haven't thought of red before.
Monet X Change
Oh, there you have it. I have to figure out how to get a refund for my gypsy tickets. Oh, sorry. I mean tickets.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wow. And on that note, thank you for coming on Monet's show. Cause that wasn't me. That was Monet. That was macaroni x cheese.
Monet X Change
Macaroni x cheese.
Bob the Drag Queen
All right, bye, y'. All.
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Date: March 3, 2025
Hosts: Monét X Change, Bob the Drag Queen
Guest: Jacob Ritz
This long-awaited episode finally brings fan-favorite producer and editor Jacob Ritz onto the podcast as an official guest. With signature playful banter, Bob, Monét, and Jacob dive into topics ranging from drag fashion to gaming nostalgia, growing up queer, family quirks, and tech trends. Jacob’s dynamic with the hosts shines, providing listeners with insight into his working relationship with the duo, life stories, and dry wit. The trio’s infectious chemistry yields plenty of memorable moments and quotable exchanges.
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The episode is marked as always by Bob and Monét’s friendly antagonism, humor, and quick wit, now enriched by Jacob’s drier comedic style and “producer-turned-guest” perspective. Family stories, queer nostalgia, and fandom debates blend seamlessly with the show’s trademark irreverence. Bob and Monét’s ribbing of each other never feels mean-spirited and Jacob’s deadpan is a perfect foil.
This episode is a treat for longtime fans eager for a glimpse behind the scenes—Jacob’s presence is as lively and funny as his work on the podcast would suggest. With discussions ranging from drag names to VR porn, and family traditions to dinner party plans, it’s both a great introduction to Jacob Ritz as a person and a hilarious, content-rich addition to the Sibling Rivalry canon.