The One About Kandy Muse

Summary

Podcast Summary: Sibling Rivalry – "The One About Kandy Muse"

Release Date: January 27, 2025
Guests: Kandy Muse, with hosts Bob the Drag Queen & Monet X Change

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Overview

This laugh-out-loud episode of Sibling Rivalry brings the indomitable Kandy Muse—icon from Drag Race and recent reality TV disruptor—onto the mic with hosts Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change. The trio spill tea on all things Drag Race, House of Villains, reality TV crossovers, fashion flops (and slays), the economics of drag, internet drama, and life in Brooklyn vs LA. The chemistry is peak messy sibling, with memorable anecdotes, spicy hot takes, and a truly inside look into the world of reality drag stars.

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Key Discussion Points & Highlights

Ozempic Baddies: "The Medication Chronicles"

• All three discuss the popularity of weight-loss medications in the drag and entertainment scene.
  • Kandy jokes: “Honey, the three Ozempic baddies.” (02:14)
  • Honest conversation about which meds they’ve tried (Ozempic, Manjaro, Semaglutide), and filming House of Villains while going through side effects.
  • Kandy confesses:

    "And the gag is you’re not even supposed to drink on Ozempic, and I was just drinking tequila down, so...” (02:55)

  • Moment of camaraderie about how these meds change their bodies and routines.

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Bronx vs. Brooklyn: NYC Banter

• Monet prods Kandy with classic borough rivalry:

  "Brooklyn has always been more superior than the Bronx. It is what it is.” — Monet (03:21)

• Kandy: “Let's not get crazy now... I do reside in Brooklyn now, so I can't be—"
• The hosts poke fun at Kandy for Christmas decorations still up in February—revealing Dominican cultural traditions (03:47).

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Drag Race: Fashion, Fails, & Iconic Looks

• Bob to Kandy:

  “Always eat. You were in that big blazer, tiny mustache phase for a while... I don't think people give enough credit for your fashions.” (04:21)

• Kandy admits:

  “I try to make up for some of the fashion misses I had on Drag Race.” (04:46)

• They reminisce about specific outfits: the "pockets" look ("At that point, what the fuck was I gonna do?" – Kandy, 06:53), promo looks, and how bad moments become iconic in their own right.

Notable Quote:

“Sometimes a bad fashion moment can be as iconic as a good fashion moment. It can.” — Bob (07:29)

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Legendary Drag Drama: Tyra Sanchez & Title Stripping

• In-depth discussion of drag drama around Tyra Sanchez (winner S2) and recent online beef.
• Kandy’s perspective:

  “It ain’t no beef on my part... I said what I said and I meant what I said and I’m standing by what I said...” (08:46)

• Explores Tyra’s controversial posts regarding The Vivienne and community reactions, including RuPaul’s rare public statement.
  • Notable: “[RuPaul] don’t speak out a lot, but she did now, and that’s what matters...” — Kandy (11:21)
• Conversation on when/if titles should be stripped for “bad behavior” (12:17).

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Club Kids & Industry Dust-ups

• Behind-the-scenes tea on “Club Kids” tours and promoters not paying drag artists.
  • “Allegedly, it took them six months to pay me.” — Kandy (15:42)
• Alyssa Edwards’ reputation for quitting gigs:

  “Every gig I have ever done with Alyssa, she has either quit or been fired from...” — Bob (13:27)

• The trio agree—drag touring and the club scene has many pitfalls and challenges.

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House of Villains & Reality TV Shenanigans

Entering the Villain House

• Kandy breaks down her casting and nerves about being the only queer person among a “straight” cast:

  “Prior to walking in, I was really nervous—but right off the back, the cast and production made me feel so included.” (24:00)

• Shares how she influenced the vote outcome (“make sure Wes does not win!” – 19:43) and the epic moment when a contestant was forced to beg on his knees.
  • “You could hear production gagging from the outside... you couldn’t even write this shit.” — Kandy (19:59)

Cross-Show Drag Crossovers

• Who should do the next House of Villains? Kandy’s picks: Gia Gunn, Mistress Isabelle Brooks, and Plane Dream. (25:13)
• Bob on reality casting:

  “It’s okay to cast more than one Ru girl on a show at a time.” (26:09)

• Bombshell reveal: Trixie Mattel was offered The Traitors but turned it down (26:51).

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The Traitors, Survivor, & Other Show Ambitions

• Spirited debate about which reality shows they’d conquer: Survivor, Traitors, Big Brother.
• Monet’s strategy: “Start as a faithful, then get converted into a traitor halfway in.” (27:23)
• Bob: “You will never catch me on Survivor in your life.” (35:11)
• Candid talk about how grueling & real some shows are (i.e. Survivor’s effect on mental & physical health – 35:32).

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Inside Secrets: Reality TV Production

• Kandy reveals “TV magic” behind secret rooms and air-pressured “flip” eliminations:

  “You can always tell when someone's gonna go home because the chairs are air-pressured… the chair would move a little…” (38:08)

• Sharing how intense and volatile House of Villains was—at times, she nearly quit multiple times:

  “Girl, you don’t even realize how crazy this cast was. Like, they were psychotic. Like, they were just at it every single day…” (39:29)

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Dating, Skag Drag, & Life Updates

• Kandy opens up about love life—recent breakup and keeping new situations private (41:44).
• Hilarious swap of “skag drag” stories:

  “All my girlfriends who put on skag drag for trade, they always take a picture...” — Bob (42:36) “When the man is hot... Melissa is showing up, honey!” — Monet (43:14)

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NY vs. LA: The Big Move Question

• Rumors about Kandy moving to LA (“I don’t know how to drive!” – 46:52), and Bob’s advice: “Rent a room in Hollywood before making the official move.” (47:22)
• They all agree: NY nightlife hits different, but LA offers better quality of life for drag artists (49:13).

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Drag Race Overload?

• They touch on whether there’s “too much Drag Race” now.

  “For the viewers and the culture—no. For the work—yes.” — Kandy (57:30)

• All agree: The explosion of drag TV means new queens need to diversify their income streams. The club scene is tougher now (58:03).
  • “Putting all your eggs in one basket... when you leave the show, you have to have more.” — Kandy (58:29)

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TikTok, Galaxies & Modern Drag Hustles

• The queens discuss TikTok “battling” and the phenomenon of Drag Race girls making serious money via livestreams. (61:12)
• “If the bullet ain’t for you, don’t dodge it honey!” — Kandy on internet drama criticism (61:12)
• Observations about how former TV queens are finding niches online—whether in music, brand deals, or TikTok.

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Recurring Bits, Jokes & Meta Moments

Iconic Quotes:

• “You’re on one today, Mo. You’re really on one today.” — Bob (41:00, recurring)
• “At that point, what the fuck was I gonna do?” — Kandy (06:53)
• “Sometimes a bad fashion moment can be as iconic as a good fashion moment.” — Bob (07:29)
• “If the bullet ain’t for you, don’t dodge it.” — Kandy (61:12)

Memorable Segments:

• New York (Tiffany Pollard) quote-off, including:

  “Beyoncé looks like Luther Vandross...” “Pretty much I will let Gemma know that she is a fat cunt... The shoes she gave me were not something I would particularly buy for myself...”

• Behind-the-scenes on The Traitors: fake secret sanctums, air-pressured chairs, production secrets (37:39–38:13)
• Recap of Drag Race dresses and the legend of the 46-yard train (54:05)

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Notable Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |---------------|--------------------------------------------------------| | 02:14 | Ozempic chat and House of Villains prep | | 06:53 | Kandy’s pocket look disaster and how queens adapt | | 08:46 | Tyra Sanchez drama on Drag Race | | 15:42 | Touring tea—Club Kids and delayed payments | | 19:43 | House of Villains finale moment | | 24:00 | Kandy on being the only queer in the villain house | | 25:13 | Which queens should do House of Villains? | | 27:23 | Monet strategizes for The Traitors | | 35:11 | “You will never catch me on Survivor” — Bob | | 38:08 | Production secrets—a chair’s flip means elimination | | 41:44 | Kandy’s love life update and skag drag stories | | 47:22 | Bob’s advice on moving to LA for drag | | 57:30 | “Too much Drag Race?” - industry oversaturation | | 58:29 | Advice to new queens—diversify after Drag Race | | 61:12 | Kandy’s “if the bullet ain’t for you...” TikTok wisdom |

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Closing Thoughts

This episode offers a goldmine for Drag Race fans and reality TV obsessives, striking the perfect balance of wild humor, real talk, and pop culture deep cuts. Kandy Muse’s candor about career, the drama behind the scenes, and the evolution of drag as both art and business underscore why these three voices matter in the scene right now.

If you love reality TV, drag drama, and unfiltered queer commentary, this episode is unmissable.

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For extra fun, check out the moment (33:16) when the hosts do their favorite Tiffany "New York" Pollard quotes—pure reality TV gold!

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Transcript

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[Kandy Muse]

I'm Kiana, and I leveled up my business with Shopify. Once I figured out that Shopify was a thing, I never turned back. I can create a site with my eyes closed. Shopify thinks ahead of us, you know,

[Monet X Change]

and it thinks about the customer more than anything.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Every day I'm thinking about some other new business, but Shopify is doing it

[Monet X Change]

to me because it's easy to use.

[Kandy Muse]

It's like, I can't stop.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm addicted. Start your free [e-mail]. my name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[Monet X Change]

And I'm Mon X Change.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this is simply rivalry. On this week's episode, we welcome Kandy Muse to the pod.

[Monet X Change]

We spill some tea on the reality shows we've allegedly been on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We find out what made Monet say this.

[Monet X Change]

Can you give us some examples of that, Bob the Drag Queen. I'm very curious.

[Kandy Muse]

We find out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're on one today, Mo. You're really on one today.

[Monet X Change]

And we find out what made Kandy say this.

[Kandy Muse]

At that point. What the fuck was that going to do, y'?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All, Honey, the three Ozempic baddies.

[Kandy Muse]

Ooh.

[Monet X Change]

First of all, I have never taken Ozembic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay? Go watch Monet's video where she publicly claims Manjaro.

[Monet X Change]

Get your fucking facts straight, bitch. Manjaro, baby.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was on Semaglutide. The. The cheap version I had. I. I got the.

[Kandy Muse]

I was on both Ozempic and Semaglutide both.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I thought Ozempic was semi glutide.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it is, but Ozempic is a brand. I think Ozempic is a brand of Semaglutide.

[Monet X Change]

Got it.

[Kandy Muse]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. You and Kandy. I think I'm happy y' all call me the fucking orange red Memo. No one told me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, my. One of my favorite moments from House of Villains, where Candy was. Someone says something, and you were like, what did you say, Katie? Something Like, I don't feel well or I'm tired of my something they said, what?

[Kandy Muse]

I feel nauseous. And Wes was like, why? Why are you nauseous? I was like, ugh, Ozempic. And funny enough, I had started Ozempic that exact week that I went to go film House of Villains. So it.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, no, girl, you're going through Ozempic and started filming that fucking show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You better work, girl.

[Kandy Muse]

And the gag is you're not even supposed to drink on Ozempic, and I was just drinking tequila down, so.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I guess we don't need to introduce. I mean, you need no introduction. Because if you are a sibling rivalry listener or watcher or follower, you know exactly who this mother Tucket diva is. In the house on the pod, we finally have the Queen Kandy Muse.

[Kandy Muse]

Hello from the Bronx.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now, Monet, talk that shit about the Bronx.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, Kandy Muse, she knows. She know what it is. Brooklyn has always been more superior than the Bronx. It is what it is.

[Kandy Muse]

All right, let's not get crazy now. You know, Brooklyn and Bronx got a little beef. But I do reside in Brooklyn now, so I can't be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not dual citizenship. Not dual citizenship. This is crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Also, y', all, we did not film this around Christmas time. Kandi just still has all of her Christmas decorations.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, hold on.

[Kandy Muse]

Because I knew y' all was overclocked. The Christmas decorations. I am Dominican, and the decorations do not come off until February 14th on Valentine's Day weekend.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's cultural, Monet. It's culture. How dare you?

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy.

[Kandy Muse]

No, the gag is not. Every I this week, I have woken up every day. I'm like, okay, today will be the day. And then I look at it. I'm like, I'm not touching that candy. You miss a lot.

[Monet X Change]

Your skin looks so good. You look so, so lovely and healthy and lovely.

[Kandy Muse]

I have collarbones now. I didn't have that before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I just say something that I've said about you for a long time, especially when it comes to your red carpet looks? Always eat. You were in that big blazer, tiny mustache phase for a while. It was in, like, the. The. The. The. The pastels and faces. It gave so hard. I don't think people would give you enough credit for your fashions, especially at these red carpet events. It's so good.

[Kandy Muse]

Thank you. You know what it is? I think that now I try to make up for some of the fashion misses I had on Drag Race. So every time I'm invited to an event, I'M like, okay, I'm gonna show up and show out and try to do the absolute most. Because sometimes these red carpet events are the only way you get press. You know, the press ain't looking for us all the time.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah. Well, also, I don't know who. I don't know who Bob is talking about. People, I think. I mean, in my opinion, I think especially post Drag Race, you have been regarded as someone who is one of, like, the fashion girlies. I think.

[Kandy Muse]

So call me Vonachotki, honey.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, both of your promos, both of your promos in both seasons, always eight. Like, you had the one, if not the best, like, in the top two of both seasons, you were on the show.

[Kandy Muse]

Thank you. That is one thing I do, I pride myself on. I said if I ever. If I ever were to go back a third time, it would be just for the promo and just for your alien look.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The iconic alien looks right there. What was that one look that you refuse to photograph in the.

[Kandy Muse]

The pockets look? Okay, to be fair, that one was made by Pinwheel. Pinwheel, which you've worked with before on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have three pinwheel pieces.

[Kandy Muse]

Yeah. So that was the one outfit that I did not do a fitting for. And my best friend was telling me, he said, hey, do a fitting before you leave. And I was just so overwhelmed. I was like, you know what? It's a little good when I get there.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kandy Muse]

I didn't have hair for it. I didn't have shoes for it. I didn't have anything. I just had an outfit. And I remember the day I was in the workroom getting ready and I put it on and I was like, okay, you like? And then. And then I had this little blonde Bob, and I put it on. I was like, well, maybe I could. And you know how drag meets has the. When you leave the workroom, it has all the materials.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kandy Muse]

They had, like, colorful spray paint. And I just, like, spray painted the hair. And I remember just looking in the mirror, just thinking, like, wow, I look disgusting. And I asked the girls, I was like, how do I look? And the girls are like, oh, you look so good. At that point, what the fuck was I gonna do?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, well, it's okay. See, it's one of those things, right? Somebody does that. So you. So you have two options. You say, either you say, yeah, you look good, like, whatever. Or the second option is just like, girl, you look a mess. Then they start freaking out, and there's really nothing to do at that point. So you know what? Telling Them, someone, they look okay, I think is the best answer in that situation.

[Kandy Muse]

And the gag is Olivia had an extra outfit. It was a black, red and gray outfit that she didn't wear for the Runway. I think it was her original pockets Runway. I was gonna ask her to wear it, but my makeup was orange and red, orange and green. I was like, you know what it is what it is. I'm going to try to sell it. And.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you know what? It worked out, and you had an iconic moment. Sometimes, as the three of us know, sometimes a bad fashion moment can be iconic, and it just is what it is. Sometimes a bad fashion moment can be as iconic as a good fashion moment. It can.

[Monet X Change]

Can you give us some examples of that, Bob the Drag Queen? I'm very curious.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This iconic robot look. Iconique, girl.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway.

[Kandy Muse]

Yeah, girl. Anyway.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway. Wait, so Candy. So you live in BK now?

[Kandy Muse]

I do. I haven't made the jump yet to, like, LA and stuff. I'm still in. I'm in Brooklyn. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, wait. While I appreciate the interview. So you're living in so and so you live. You're from the Bronx. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk about the thing that people really want to hear about, which is that

[Monet X Change]

we're talking about Scandic is coming to la.

[Kandy Muse]

Oh, Lord.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's talk about what people really want to talk about, which is the fact that both of you have had iconic beef with the winner of season two of RuPaul's Drag Race.

[Kandy Muse]

You know, okay, here. Here's the full tea. Because it ain't no beef on my part.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe no beef on my part either.

[Monet X Change]

Girl.

[Kandy Muse]

I said what I said, and I meant what I said, and I'm standing by what I said. And even though last night I did. See, I have a block. So I. Someone sent me a screenshot of her story, and there was, like, photos of me in the collage, and she said, you nasty fat bitch, I have your location acquired. Whatever. First of all, mama, I'm one to get down for the get down. And when I see you outside, we could do the fade one, too. If you're gonna. If you're gonna publicly post that you have my location, then I'm going to publicly go to the police. See, I could turn white woman real quick. First and foremost, I'm so. I need help, you know? But my thing is, again, it's not even beef. It's the fact that, like, I think. And I've always said this for. I've always defended Tyra for years, because I do think that back on her season. And plus the. Whatever years after, people were hard on her. And I can't imagine what it is to have half the world hate you just because you were great. Because she was one of the best on her season, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was the best on her season.

[Kandy Muse]

She was the best. So I get the whole mental health part of it, and I get that after a while, you, you know, it starts to drive you a little bit crazy. However, I don't think it gives you an excuse to act the way she acted. Make that post on the day of the Vivian's death announcement was just, like, so insensitive and so crazy. Because even if you have beef with the. The tweet was from five years ago. And if you could not say what you felt five years ago, then don't say now when the cannot defend herself.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. And then so just, Just, just in case some people who aren't aware of all the drag drama, whatever. This is a screenshot of the. Of. Of what happened. The Vivian tweeted this in 2020, and on the day of her death announcement, Tyra Reek quote, tweeted it with this on top of it. Some crazyness. Like, it was so also, it's like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then RuPaul posted this on Instagram, posted this everything.

[Monet X Change]

I was like, rupaul, don't be speaking out alive. I was like, for him to, like, come out and be like, I was geeked.

[Kandy Muse]

I was guy. I woke up the next day and I was like, oh, this is not really, like, this is a fan account. And it was hard. Oh, okay. I meant it.

[Monet X Change]

I know.

[Kandy Muse]

Good.

[Monet X Change]

And as soon as she posted across

[Bob the Drag Queen]

all platforms, she posted on Instagram, she posted on TikTok, she posted on LinkedIn, she posted on UberEats, Blue Sky, Friendster.

[Monet X Change]

It was wild. I was like. And the first comment I see, it was not. You know, before you even click the comments, the thing is that the thing you see is just Kandy Muse mother in Bright Capital Mother.

[Kandy Muse]

Because I feel like. I feel like me tweeting at Tyra gave the tweet a little more attention than it originally had, and the tweet got back to RuPaul. And I think because of that, RuPaul posted what she posted. So I was like, you know what? Work mother? Because while people were calling for, like, oh, strip Tara of her title, which I think would be so cut. Although, you know, whatever. I do think that if RuPaul while RuPaul posted that, I was like, okay, you know what? Because this bitch I live for, mother. She don't speak out a lot, but she did now, and that's what matters. And it was kind. It was everything.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I would say strip of her title because she did deserve. She did deserve the title. She did win it. And also I trip her.

[Kandy Muse]

Strip her.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, but I mean, but why are reasons that people strip people with titles? They do it for bad behavior. They do it because. For cheap. For if later they find out whatever. Like, there are multiple reasons why you can trust them on the title. And I think threatening to blow us all up at dragcon annually, threatening to kill other contestants, like. Like that. I mean, I think those are grounds for someone of the title of the show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It will do. It will do nothing to all. It would do nothing to Tatara doesn't care.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but it's not for her. It's for RuPaul and the Pride also.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then your fave will really get drama when everyone's be like. You mean when Raven was handed her crown after losing Drag Race twice? That would be wild.

[Kandy Muse]

The gag is, I think, strip it and don't give it to anyone. Just leave the crown there for the season.

[Monet X Change]

For the girls.

[Kandy Muse]

For all the girls.

[Monet X Change]

For all the girls. Oh, my God. They should. They should really recreate the fucking mean girl scene and just get a fake. A fake crown. Just give everybody a piece.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Coco Montreal.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Coco Montrese was famously stripped. No. Or was it. Who was it Alyssa was stripped of?

[Kandy Muse]

Alyssa was stripped.

[Monet X Change]

Alyssa shrink everybody.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

So, I mean, it happens all the time. Whatever. Wait, why. Why was Alyssa stripped, Bob? You know, I don't know. Oh, I don't know either.

[Kandy Muse]

I believe it was scheduling contacts, conflicts.

[Monet X Change]

They shipped over a title.

[Kandy Muse]

I believe winning the pageant, you have to do certain things and, like, make certain events. And she wasn't either. Alyssa didn't want to make those events or wasn't able to, so they couldn't be unbelief.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was dancing with them kids. I would say this. This is not shade. This is just a fact. And I might get. I might get got on the Internet for this.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Every gig I have ever done with Alyssa, she has either quit or been fired from every y'. All. This is not an exaggeration.

[Monet X Change]

We.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is not an exaggeration. She has either quit. I was there when she. When she. When she told off the guy at Murray and Peter and stormed out.

[Monet X Change]

Chris. Chris.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then she told me and Naomi, she goes, baby, if RuPaul drank raising tomorrow, y' all wouldn't have jobs. I said, we said, yeah, Faces we Were like, both of us had jobs before post trackers.

[Monet X Change]

That's not my experience. When she. I mean, the last gig we together was Roscoe's, like two years ago, and she was there before me. She was. She was in her. She's ready to go. So I didn't say she was late.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I never said she was late. She just split her apart.

[Kandy Muse]

Because when I did, we did a club kids tour, like two years ago in Europe, and she was first one ready.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kandy Muse]

Meet and greet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hot.

[Kandy Muse]

I'm sweaty. She was there. She. You know, but to be clear is

[Bob the Drag Queen]

she's never been fired equipped because she was late.

[Monet X Change]

Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Something went wrong. Something she didn't like. Like, if Alyssa doesn't like it, she'll just leave. Like, if Alyssa is slightly inconvenient, she's like, I don't need this. I'll just leave.

[Kandy Muse]

That is.

[Monet X Change]

That is another one. Another company that kind of went up. Well, not. We're not talking about companies, but club kids. Didn't they go up in flames because they were like shading the girls and doing some crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, they're not.

[Kandy Muse]

They're not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're not operating anymore.

[Kandy Muse]

Not paying the girl.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, they were. They were. They were managing girls and mishandling their funds and also doing gigs with girls and not paying girls in the gigs.

[Kandy Muse]

Like, you know what they would do? They, they. They kind of. They up the drag scene in UK and Europe, they would have. Let's just say this, they would have. They will put on three events one night in Manchester just to like, make up for the money. While. While they'll have three events in Manchester, they'll have a whole tour with the US girls happening in the uk. Now, keep in mind, they don't have money for the Girls in Manchester show or the girls on the tour. When I did the. That European tour with Alyssa and it took them six months. Allegedly. Right? Allegedly. Allegedly. This is all alleged. Allegedly.

[Monet X Change]

It took.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We don't know.

[Kandy Muse]

We weren't there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's a legend.

[Monet X Change]

A legend.

[Kandy Muse]

Right. Allegedly. It took them six months to pay me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So when you said me, I can't, I thought you were gonna say someone else. Allegedly. Listen, we'll talk more about the alleged allegation after this break.

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[Kandy Muse]

Close your eyes.

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[Kandy Muse]

Feel your body relax.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And let go of whatever you're carrying today.

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[Kandy Muse]

And breathe.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

1-800-contacts. Kage, during our break, I ate a Krispy Kreme. And Monet said she doesn't go for Krispy Kreme.

[Monet X Change]

I don't go for Krispy Kreme. I never been a Krispy girl.

[Kandy Muse]

In New York, we don't really have a lot of Krispy Kremes, like, laying around. We have Dunkin Donuts.

[Monet X Change]

Dunkin Donuts. Yeah, but we're not crazy like on Dunkin Donuts. Like, Boston bitches, they fucking eat, breathe, they. We'll kill for Dunkin' Donuts. We don't go up like that.

[Kandy Muse]

The thing is, also, they'd be having them donuts. They're sitting for, like, 12 hours.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that's the thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Here's the thing. Everyone. I don't think everyone kind of goes up for mediocre, shitty food from their hometown, right? So Dunkin' Donuts is not great donuts. But these Boston girlies don't around about Dunkin's. Y' all are associated by these bacon, egg and cheese on a roll. Y' all love that. And it's really not that great because it's fresh. Okay. In Georgia, we go up. I don't think it's from here, but it's like, notoriously here. Waffle House. Waffle House is not great. But we love. We don't fuck around about Wap. We don't fuck around about Waffle House in Georgia. And then whenever I take some morning, like, you gotta go to Waffle House. As I'm eating, I'm like, oh, it's really not that good. I just love Waffle House.

[Monet X Change]

I think, what's the name? Cracker Barrel. Cracker Barrel is that girl. To me, she's good.

[Kandy Muse]

I've been there once. And they're a little racist over there, so I don't know about that.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah.

[Kandy Muse]

Oh, for sure.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, you will get a Side of microaggressions with your girl. It absolutely for sure not a side of microaggression.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That being said, I want to talk about Candy Muse. Candy. Okay. Spoiler alert.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For the House of Villains. If you have not watched House of Villains Season 2, this is your moment to. To chill. You all right? Okay. Were you beside yourself when he looked at Wes, made him get down on his bet plead? What. What was going through your mind?

[Kandy Muse]

Okay, so here's some tea real quick. Prior. So that happened two days after I was eliminated. So Pex betrayed me because Wes told him to send me home. He sent me home. I came back the next day and Pex was crying. They didn't show this. Pax was crying. I'm so sorry. How can I make this up to you? Whatever. Whatever. Okay. I knew how the votes were gonna go and I knew that I was not gonna vote for Pegs and no one else was going to either, meaning the final vote will come down to him. So I told him with the impression that I would vote for him. I was like, listen. And for whatever reason, it just comes down to west and Safaree. Do me a favor and make sure that Wes does not win. If you want to make it up to me, make sure he does not win. He said, okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

[Kandy Muse]

I did not know that he was going to come out of his fucking shell and make Wes get on his knees. Not one, both. And beg. When I tell you. We were all. We were standing there. You can hear production gagging from the outside because they were just like, whoa. Like, you couldn't even write this shit. It was so good. And I was like, you know what? Although me winning this show would have been cut, this is a much more cut ending and I'm always down for some good television.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And the thing about Pex is this. Pex is a villain in wrestling world. But in real on the show seemed like the nicest person in the house. It just seemed like a person surrounded by villains. But Pex was like, girl, I'm not really that girl in real life. I play a villain on tv. I'm Pex. Is that an accurate assumption you would say or assessment?

[Kandy Muse]

No, he definitely. He definitely was the sweetest person there. He was one of one of my closest friends there. It was weird because this is like straight white, muscular man and just like brown Dracula from the hood. Like somehow we clicked and we became really good friends.

[Monet X Change]

Very chill.

[Kandy Muse]

Which is why for half the season, most of the season, I was like, you a that much of a villain? But that little move right there at

[Bob the Drag Queen]

the end, he turned on Pectacular. Pectacular jumped out. He should have made him kiss his muscles. He should have been like, kiss my. If he would have been like, get off your knees and kiss my muscles. And then if he would have went and he would have been like. And I both put Safari, that would have been. I mean, it was already. It was already crazy.

[Monet X Change]

First of all, I want to say something. I would have did that for fun. If we were in the house, I would have like.

[Kandy Muse]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

That's not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not a sentence.

[Monet X Change]

That is a gift.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cause you know, I mean. Cause I played with Wes too. Wes is on.

[Kandy Muse]

Wes has now played with three rugals with me on Villains, Trinity, the Tuck on America's First Cook, Celebrity Edition. Yeah. The bitches on every fucking show I look at. And now Bob on the Traitors.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I. I remember Wes. Cause I used to watch Real World back in the day. I think he was Real World Austin. It was whatever. What. Whatever he was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And.

[Kandy Muse]

And.

[Monet X Change]

And Real World Austin, someone's probably gonna. Gonna correct me, but like, he led with his sexual energy, like, apparently. But although with straight girls, Wes. Yes, but with straight girls, though, they. They will go up for mediocre dick. Now, I'm not saying Wes has a mediocre dick. I don't fucking know Wes.

[Kandy Muse]

But I'm not saying that if. What? I. I'm not gonna say that. If Wes was flirting with me, I wouldn't flirt back. Not saying he did, but I'm not saying that I wouldn't. So I'm moving down for a little ginger.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, he was like, on Real World, he was like that boy. Everyone's like. Everyone's like, oh, my God, Wes is so hot. And apparently Wes had a big dick. Apparently that's what they were going off on the Real World, Austin.

[Kandy Muse]

I've heard stories.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, a horrible question.

[Monet X Change]

What was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was Safari schling langing around the house?

[Kandy Muse]

You know what's so crazy? The most question I get asked, it's about Safari's dick.

[Monet X Change]

Everywhere.

[Kandy Muse]

Everyone wants to know about his dick and did I sleep with him? 1. No, I did not sleep with Safari, which is insane.

[Monet X Change]

Imagine candy sleeves with Safari and gets in drama with Erica Mena.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That would be

[Kandy Muse]

right. No, his, his, his. That's my brother. So I gotta. You know, his dick is huge. He was wearing these, like, little short shorts to work out. I'm like, all right, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow.

[Kandy Muse]

It was over. But Safari is one of the sweetest and funniest person I've ever met. And personally, contractually, there are certain things I can't say on here because a contract. But he has done so much for me outside of the show. And honestly, like, that is a ride or a die word.

[Monet X Change]

And then, so you get that. You get the. You get the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The.

[Monet X Change]

The hit up the casting to do House of Villains. Like, where were you the whole time? You're like, oh, bitch, I'm going off a show. Or were you nervous to be in a house with all these fucking straight people because you were only queer person? Like, was that. Was that a crazy thought?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The guy, the nudist was queer?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah.

[Kandy Muse]

We was from two different generations, you know, and two different backgrounds. But no, listen, I remember it was Thursday, 8pm I was on my way to Latin night, and I got an email from House of Village. Now, I hadn't watched season one because I don' really watch television, but my best friend watched it and he was like, hey, you have to go on the show. So I watched, like, the first two episodes. I was like, okay, cute. I was nervous because when you're going to drag race, you know, you're going to a room full of other drag queens, you all experience the same thing. You all work at the clubs. You know, all this going into a house with was. You don't know who. Okay, how is the situation going to be with me, like, getting ready? Am I getting ready in the bathroom? Like, am I going to have time to get in drag? Are people going to, like, be accepting all these things go through your head? And prior to walking in, I was really, really nervous. But let me tell you right off the back, on the very first day, everyone, the cast, production, everyone made me feel so, so included in fun. And they all love that I was there. So it just made things a little bit easier. And once you start to, like, show me that you like me, I start to gain this, like, this power. So the house was mine. I was like, anything I wanted to do, I was doing it there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nice.

[Monet X Change]

I love that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What queens do you want to see on the next season of House of Villains? Kandy Muse is now in charge of casting. What drag queen villains are we going to get if Kandy Muse is the casting director?

[Kandy Muse]

Okay. There are three girls I have that I think would be great on the show. I'm also thinking of, like, how would a girl from drag queens translate onto this type of show because it's so different. I think she is controversial, but Gia Gunn is. She's so fun.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She would be so good she wouldn't go. What you think you do isn't necessarily what you're gonna do.

[Kandy Muse]

Absolutely, yeah. She would kill it. And my two villain sisters, who. I'm not sure how they would be on the show, but I think it would be a great shot, either mistress or plain dream, because these are girls who are not afraid to play the part of a villain. I just don't know how it would translate onto. It's such. It's. It's weird. It's. It's. Yeah, explain it. But in my mind, drag race girls sometimes don't translate onto other reality television shows.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And to all of you casting directors out there, it's okay to cast more than one rude girl on a show at a time.

[Kandy Muse]

Clock it. Listen, I said the same thing about, about Traders. I said, why are they 50 from the challenge, 50 from big brother.

[Monet X Change]

You wanna hear?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You want to hear some tea?

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Allegedly. Allegedly. And I don't know who, but allegedly someone else was asked to do my season with me. I don't know if they did. I don't know if they said no. I don't know if they were busy. I don't know if they passed. Didn't pass the psyche. I don't know what happened, but allegedly one other queen was asked to do it on my season with me.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, well, this is on. What is this? Pink Muse.

[Kandy Muse]

Yeah, she. She's announced that she. She. She got offered. It's not a secret.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jesus Christ.

[Kandy Muse]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

Trixie Mattel explains turned down her role on the traitors.

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[Kandy Muse]

You know what? I. I love Trixie, but we don't need her on Traders. She's on everything else. Gives the other girls an opportunity.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think Trixie would have got gobbled up on Traders. She would have got gobbled up,

[Monet X Change]

was casted and she was a traitor. She would fall like a fucking paperclip. She would. She would pass away.

[Kandy Muse]

Monaej, would you want to be a traitor or a faithful?

[Monet X Change]

So I'm a big Traitors fan. I've watched all the UK seasons, watched. I've watched all three American seasons and I would love to be. I would either love to be a traitor from the beginning or be a faithful and get turned in the middle because they voted for Trader. To me, if you want to win, that's the best way to win. Start as a faithful, then get converted into a trader halfway in.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can win as a.

[Kandy Muse]

As a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

As a trader the whole way through.

[Monet X Change]

Again, Serie did it, but as you're gonna see, last season, it was very hard for them. To do that. But serie season one was fucking flawless. She ate that. They were eating. She had them eating out of her asshole the entire season.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Delicious.

[Monet X Change]

It's crazy. But, yeah, Candy, if you did it, would you. Would you be a. Would you be a trader? Or what would you want?

[Kandy Muse]

See, I. In my mind, I would want to be a traitor. But after watching the first three episodes of season three, I was like, okay, I think me being a traitor, I wasn't a villain. Me being a traitor would be too obvious. I feel like people would want, all right, you're a traitor. Like, come on now.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kandy Muse]

Now being unfaithful is scary because I'm watching the show and I'm like, okay, you can go to bed tonight and be eliminated, girl. Oh, hell no.

[Monet X Change]

You go to sleep and, you know some production come knocking your door like, hey, so unfortunately, you were selected.

[Kandy Muse]

I would be like, going, I don't like that. I don't like that.

[Monet X Change]

I'll be pissed. I'll be so fucking pissed. But then what you gonna do about

[Bob the Drag Queen]

it besides be murdered?

[Monet X Change]

I wanna get it. So, you know, one of my. Oh, you know what?

[Kandy Muse]

Hold on. I'm gonna go on my exit interview with my red Bob and my black dress and tell you how your fashion is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was a hot, like,

[Monet X Change]

whatever her name is. She is mad at you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said. I was like, you will never be as fabulous as me. I said, baby, I'll see you at the reunion. You about to gag, honey.

[Kandy Muse]

Because she's a housewife. Bob, I have to ask, as a whole person is asking, did you really not know who Dorinda was prior to. I did not know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet knows this. I don't watch housewives. I do not watch Real Housewives. I. I only watch competitive reality TV shows. And honestly, the ones I watch are house of villains, RuPaul's Drag Race, Dragula and the Traders. That's the only shows that I watch. So the only housewives I know, I know some Atlanta housewives, and I mean some. I know Nene leaks. The ones I know aren't even on the show anymore. Nene leaks. Candy Phaedra, Joggers,

[Kandy Muse]

September.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then I know Bethany Frankel, Teresa Giudice. And then when I got to the fight with that barracuda years ago. Brandy Glanville and Erica Jane. Those are the only housewives out of the hundred, whatever, how many housewives. Those are the only ones I know. And the ones that I was on, on the Traders with, I don't know why people are so gagged. I Do not know this woman. I don't know why they're so gagged by this.

[Kandy Muse]

Y' all know her?

[Monet X Change]

I, I, I don't know Dorinda, Ivan. I watch Highest Fly. To be fair, I only watch Atlanta, so I don't know Atlanta and, like, the other, like, really popular ones. But wake, like, how long has the Rinder been on the show?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. Do you know Dorinda Candy?

[Kandy Muse]

I don't know her. I only know there's this one clip of her. She's, like, not well bitch, but, like, that's. I don't watch Housewives, so I don't.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, so, y', all.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's really not that unheard of tonight, by the way. This is no shade. Let me be clear. Me not knowing Dorinda has no bearing on whether or not she's famous. Dorinda is obviously a famous person. Clearly, her fans are trying to clear me on Twitter, Tik Tok Tok Instagram, and Uber Eats. Okay? I had someone deliver my food and said Dorinda was robbed. I said, no, she was murdered and I snatched my food.

[Monet X Change]

But Candy, so I am very jealous of you because I am a huge, huge New York fan. And the fact that y' all actually. Let's take a break and so we'll talk about New York a little more.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, you're not that huge. You're pretty. You're pretty average size, I would say.

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[Monet X Change]

You got to play and be homies. Coochie crunch with motherfucking New York Tiffany Pollard, an iconic. I mean, she. She started the shit. She's the reason we are here today.

[Kandy Muse]

Literally. No, literally. You know, it never crossed my mind that she would be a returning to the game. I was like. It just. It didn't cross my mind. I was, like, so focused on, like, being there that, like. And when she walked in, I was just like the fangirl in me. I was like, Wait, you're telling me I get to be on a show with New York? Someone that I literally grew up watching, got into television because of her half of Gates Wood and her personality is because of New York or her memes. And she's still 20 years later, like, come on. Flavor of Love and Out of New York. Those were the show, like, it was wild. And then I got to know more of her and I would see, oh, this bitch knows this is her career. She has been doing this for 20 years. When the cameras are on, New York is on. When the cameras are off, New York is eating in her room. Do not bother her. She is away. She's quiet, smoking her blunt, just having a good old. I live. I live.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can we all take turns giving our favorite New York quotes? Does anyone want to go first? Because, I mean, New York is one of the true queens of reality television.

[Kandy Muse]

Beyonce. Beyonce look like Luther Vandross. This is a very niche woman. Did she? There's one. She goes, you upstairs. You are in some deep. When you come down here, just smack me in the face. This is darn right disrespectful.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. I'm gonna be a basic and do my all time. It's so basic. But it's my all time favorite. And it is the most iconic New York clip of all time. Pretty much I will. Pretty much I will let Gemma know that she is a fat cunt. The shoes that she gave me were not something I particularly buy for myself. They were old maiden type of shoes. And she said those shoes are meant to be one on a beautiful woman. So if that's the case, she should have put them back on the rack and she shouldn't have even purchased them in the first place because she's unqualified to own those shoes. If that's the case. I mean, this quote is so. I also love 30. Do you have 30 minutes? 30?

[Kandy Muse]

Yes. 30. 30.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. To do that with her on Tick Tock, that's crazy. Everything.

[Kandy Muse]

No, I'm still fangirling to this day. I'm hoping that some the future. Just at least one more show with her. Just one more with New York.

[Monet X Change]

I feel like. I feel like New York would be an interesting and maybe a dope casting choice for Traitors. I think she'll be so, so erratic, though. I don't think they would. It would be insane having New York she's in.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's on a different level than the Traitors.

[Kandy Muse]

Different mama. She has her own contract. I'll walk in her room. I'm like, Wait, how do you have your phone right now? My phone's taken away. Girl her own contract. I am New York. Thank you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Allegedly. Allegedly.

[Kandy Muse]

Allegedly. He told me that David died.

[Monet X Change]

She, like, also, like, when she does some thing, like, the, The Gemma Collins rant, I'm like, is like, was that just off the top of the dome? Like, did she, like, how was you able to just structure this sentence off the top of your dome? Because it's just. It's impressive to me. I think it's so impressive.

[Kandy Muse]

And she's quick. She's real quick.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet, do you want to enter this realm of, like, these crazy reality TV shows? I know. Okay. Monet is crazy because for whatever reason, she wants to do the one I would never do. You will never catch. I would survive her in your, in your life.

[Monet X Change]

I would do Survivor. I would absolutely do Survivor.

[Kandy Muse]

But things I've heard about the contestants that come off that show and allegedly have to get on medication. I'm good on that one.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, because you get, like, you know, there's, like, a lot of bacteria and stuff out there because you literally, like, people think it's off a camera. It's like you are literally shitting in a water thing you are sleeping on. Like, rats are crawling like that. That's not for cameras. People like, that is real. I've been on all the Survivor subreddits, all the things. Like, they really are living like that. It is crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Apparently, a lot of them come back with cellulitis. A lot of them.

[Monet X Change]

What's cellulitis?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cellulitis is like, it's like an affection over your skin. Have you ever seen sometimes, like, if an unhoused person, their skin looks kind of, like, scaly and weird and rough and is. Yeah, that's cellulitis.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, but you want to do Survivor.

[Monet X Change]

I wasn't good, though.

[Kandy Muse]

And also, those contestants they play, when they go on other reality shows, they, like, for example, rich was so about the game. That's a rich girl. Relax. It's not that serious.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I would say this, you better than me, because when I went to the Traders, I was like, I'm not doing no drag. Y' all not about to get. Y' all not about to have me up in yags running around the Highlands of Scotland.

[Monet X Change]

Not me, honey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, y' all gon, I'm gonna give you some fashion, but I'm not gonna give you no drags.

[Kandy Muse]

I, I, I always thought about if I go into Traders Squad, I do drag, because for villains, I was like, I'll keep boy for challenge and for, like, elimination. I'll do drag.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. No, if. If I did Traitors. I mean, Bob, you obviously know more about us than us, but I would. For the round tables, I would try to. I would try my best to do them in drag as much as possible. I would. I would want to be there in drag.

[Kandy Muse]

Do you sleep in the castle?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, of course. Course.

[Kandy Muse]

Allegedly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Of course we do. You all sleep in the. In the. In the hat. Bill's house.

[Kandy Muse]

No, we do upstairs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Same. We do too.

[Kandy Muse]

Oh, I have a question, which I don't know if you can answer this. Where is the. The, like, the secret sanctum? Is it actually in the basement, or can you not say? I'm gonna say I'm off the show and go. Allegedly. Secret. Okay, listen, the secret.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We could call this the one about allegedly, the alleged episode.

[Kandy Muse]

The secret bookcase is actually the sound room. There is. It's a little, tiny 4x4 room. There's a guy sitting there with all of our mic packs and stuff. We go in there, we huddle in the room, we close the bookcase, Then we step. TV magic, y'. All. Then we step back outside to the backyard, and there's, like, a basketball court that they've turned into the. The little elimination room.

[Monet X Change]

Work.

[Kandy Muse]

How is the flipping?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How is the flipping?

[Kandy Muse]

It's so scary. It is so scary. Okay, you know what's so crazy? You can always tell when someone's gonna go home because the chairs are air pressured, so they have to feel the air pressure for the chair before they flip you. So anytime they would get ready to, like, say who's about to be eliminated, you would hear the air pressure filling up up on the specific chair, and the children move a little bit, and you're like, oh, girl.

[Monet X Change]

Oh.

[Kandy Muse]

That's how you know that's what I'm

[Bob the Drag Queen]

gonna say, because there are people actually lifting it. So if it's a big. They're all like. You see five guys walk out?

[Monet X Change]

No, no.

[Kandy Muse]

It's scary.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Flipped.

[Kandy Muse]

Tonight, you go right backwards. It's really scary.

[Monet X Change]

Work, Candy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was really mad before we move on. I was really mad that Omarosa didn't let them flip her.

[Monet X Change]

That was so annoying. So don't.

[Kandy Muse]

You did it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, she refused to let them flip her. She was like, my arm's hurting.

[Monet X Change]

This is the same. The same season where she said that New York had her or someone had hurt her arm.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, no, not New York. The one who won.

[Monet X Change]

Tanisha.

[Kandy Muse]

Tanisha.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Tanisha hit her With a tambourine.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kandy Muse]

I mean, no shade. I. I was gonna walk out on the elimination, too, because I was like, bitch, I'm y' all not about to flip me. But then I was like, okay. I've actually tried to walk out of the Show

[Monet X Change]

4.

[Kandy Muse]

4. 3 or 4 times.

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why?

[Kandy Muse]

Girl, they. You don't even realize how crazy this cast was. Like, they were psychotic. Like, they were just at it every single day. When Camila got eliminated, it was like they, like, dumbed down the fight because they like to make Hosta villains. Yes. Dramatic, but still fun and campy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I feel, like, super angry. Like, super real. Like, for real crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Kandy Muse]

And some of the. The fights were a little intense for me. And I remember when Camila got eliminated, I walked off. I call production. I said, listen, I just got off of a tour. Work the world. I was like, we just did arenas in Europe. I'm too good for this show. You psychotic. I'm leaving. And then they were like, this, okay, but fans, you have to stay here. And I was like, all right, girl. All right. I'm not a drinker. I don't drink. And I was drinking a lot of tequila there. So I was in my. In the feelings. And there were multiple times I was like, you know what? I'm over this. I'm leaving.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you telling me if I get a call for House of Villains, I shouldn't do it? Is that what you're saying?

[Kandy Muse]

No, no, you should. I tell this to be. The reason why I was upset was because all my friends were being eliminated. So I was, like, grumpy by myself. Like, I'm over this.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kandy Muse]

Like, girl, I'm next. I know that at the end of that list, when they're all gone, I'm next.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But, Candy, why would they. Why would I ever get a call to be on House of Villains? How does that even make sense for me?

[Monet X Change]

Are you kidding me?

[Kandy Muse]

Well, now after the trainers, maybe they'll

[Monet X Change]

put you on the Villains, girl, before the Traders. Candy, you know this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is a evil.

[Kandy Muse]

Wasn't you told? You told Derek my feelings were to hurt you? If my things were to hurt you, you'll be crying right now.

[Monet X Change]

Right now. Honey,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

do you think I'm a villain on Traders?

[Jerry (Insurance Assistant Ad Voice)]

You know what?

[Kandy Muse]

Yes. I'll tell the producers you're a villain. That one time we were in Copenhagen, and you're by the Aquaria to. To the Madonna concert, and me, Vanjie and Mr. Saying that, like, this is the hotel.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I keep telling y' all I did not invite Aquaria. Aquaria asked to come. Aquaria just showed up. She did her big one, honey. She said I'm a show off queen.

[Kandy Muse]

I remember we were all texting and she was real quiet.

[Monet X Change]

Anyways, how was your love life? I'm very curious. I always see you well. I always hear that you're dating people. I always hear that you have supremacy. I'm like Candy making her way around these streets.

[Kandy Muse]

Honey, girl, I've been making my way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, my love life.

[Kandy Muse]

Okay, so last year I was seeing. Dating someone for a whole year. And then at the beginning, at the. Right. At the very end of last year just decided, we mutually decided that it was just. It wasn't going anywhere. He had other ideas of what he wanted in life. And I have other.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We've narrowed it down to who it

[Kandy Muse]

would be, you know, but it just wasn't. We weren't going anywhere. And it was. It was a great year. Like, you know, everything okay. As of recent, I've been dabbling with. With one person. And yeah, I'm keeping things very low key though. Very private. This time around though, I feel like this person.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The trade that you did that, that, that drag look for that one time on Paris.

[Kandy Muse]

No, but that was good. That was good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That picture is so great. All my girlfriends who. Who put on skag drag for trade, they always take a picture of it. They always take a picture of themselves in their skag drag to show their friends to gag everyone. Later, Kani texted me, we'll put it on the screen if you're comfortable with that.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah. Oh, Jay, Jay, you have mine. I sent Jay to. This was a guy from Montreal I hooked up with in the pandemic. Bitch. It was the first little humor here Blonde Bob, we got. I fucking put that shit in my head. I put a little mascara, a little ruby wool lipstick. J, put the picture on the screen. This is me in my skag drag

[Kandy Muse]

when the man is hot and he's like, listen, just put the wig on, girl.

[Monet X Change]

Right? 100%. I'm like, Honey, Melissa is showing up, honey.

[Kandy Muse]

See, I'm Tiffany Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't forget. Don't forget to send Jay the ones from earlier that you mentioned.

[Kandy Muse]

Melissa, I just sent you the photo. I'm Tiffany.

[Monet X Change]

Bob, what is your skag drag name? If you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't have one, but I guess it probably be Roberta. Is that. Is that. Is that a horrible if Roberta? Is it horrible if Roberta shows up?

[Monet X Change]

No, the girl nobody wants to a Roberta, please. Well, sorry, no shade.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow. All the Robertas out here. You know how many Robertas are listening to this podcast right now?

[Monet X Change]

No shade to the birdas, but girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, no. That was crazy. There is a Roberta. There's a Roberta right now. Coming, like, this is wild. I just got ate up. My sitting here, drinking my coffee, getting gathered by Monet for no. Unprovoked for no reason. And that's why you need to be on House of Villains.

[Monet X Change]

I'm trying to think, yeah, I would do Traitor. I would love to do Traitors. I don't think I'm not a villain enough for House of Villains, but I'm not.

[Kandy Muse]

You are, but I would.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, they call me. I'll probably do it. Traitors. I would definitely do Survivor. I would do Big Brother. Although I don't really know how Big Brother works, but I would do Big Brother.

[Kandy Muse]

Yeah, I've never watched Big Brother, but I'm always like, I want to do it. I've never watched a single episode. Don't know how the game is. Don't know how you get eliminated, but

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I want to do it. I cannot say right now the first showman is gonna be cast on House of Villains because it's your true nature. Let's just start with that.

[Monet X Change]

Well, the thing with Big Brother, that one seems so convoluted. Cause you have the head of household, then there's a thing. There's like so many different elements to that one. Whereas Survivor and Traitors and House of Villains is pretty cut and dry. Big Brother is too much.

[Kandy Muse]

Big Brother gives me a white person's game.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not when there was a cookout. Not when there was a cookout.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah. The cookout alliance. The cookout Alliance. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't know. You don't watch it. I don't watch Big Brother. I don't watch Big Brother either. But I know that there has never been a black winner. And one time they did a the top four, whatever was all black people. They had alliance called the cookout. And you know, Danielle Reyes, who is my ride or die over on Traders, she was one of the girls who changed the way Big Brothers played. Cause she was gathering everyone left and right. But what happened was they would send you all the way home. You would leave the Big Brother house, You go home and then you'd watch tv. And then, yeah, was like, I'm playing everybody. I'm gathering all these people like fools. But she was winning. She was like, winning. She had everyone's trust, but they all saw her being like, I'm gathering them I'm eating them up. And then they got back and voted her, and they were like, well, you're not gonna win now. So she should have won because she played the smartest game. But after that, they literally. They have. They. She literally changed the way they play the game. That's how iconic Danielle Reyer. That's why.

[Kandy Muse]

That's why on that show, the bitter juries.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's. That's why Derek called her, or whoever called her the best one to never win, because she really is that good.

[Monet X Change]

I feel like if they did a thing on Drag Race where they brought all. I mean, they did it not like All Stars. Like, regular season, they bring all the eliminated girls back and we get to choose a winner. I think draggers, girl. Like, we're all. Tonight we was. We would choose a person who did the best job. I don't think that happened. Huh?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That happened. All Stars 4.

[Monet X Change]

No, we didn't vote on All Stars,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

which everyone was Trixie.

[Monet X Change]

That's what I'm saying. But that was like All Stars. I mean, like regular season, like season 10 season. Season 13.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you admit drag racing, all sorts of different shows, you're not a Drag Race winner.

[Monet X Change]

Candy, do you see these have to deal with?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Candy, I'm just. I'm just listening to where. I just want to make sure I'm hearing what you're saying. Drag racing also has a different show.

[Monet X Change]

Candy, when are you. When are you moving to la, Girl?

[Kandy Muse]

I don't know. Here's the thing. I don't know how to drive.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, you're.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

New York doesn't drive. And Kim didn't drive for, like, years.

[Kandy Muse]

Every time I go to la, you know what? I'm always in my mind. I'm like, if they need me, I'll fly there. If the job is great and they need me, I'll be there. I'm such a New Yorker through and through. I'm like, I don't know. But my lease is coming up and I am somehow something in the interest. So over New York a little bit. A little bit? A little bit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Candy, you know what? I did what? For a while, if it's something that people can swing, and I realize I have privilege in life, but I rented a room, a very inexpensive room in Hollywood for a year before I moved here. I just rented a room. It was not expensive. It was like. It was very inexpensive. I got a really great deal with a friend, and obviously he got a great deal because I was hardly ever there. And then I got a great deal because when I was in town, I had a place to stay.

[Kandy Muse]

I'm gonna put that in my pocket.

[Monet X Change]

I saw Tsunami for Oh, but Bob and I, we both saw for Christmas at.

[Kandy Muse]

Yes. Yeah, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

At the House of Avalon. She was like, yeah, girl, I think I'm moving to la. I was like, I want all the New York girls to come to la. Rob, better be in the back of your shot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that was Cameo, not Rob. Wow.

[Kandy Muse]

A few New York girls have gone to la. Scarlet, Envy, Tsunami does want to move over there.

[Monet X Change]

Envy is here now, too. I didn't know that.

[Kandy Muse]

I'm like a few New Year girls. I named one you two.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, there was a thing a while back when I was living in New York City. They came like, every New York. Every girl leaves New York and goes to la. This is back before. It was like. This is like when I was on Drag Race and I was like, what do you mean, every girl? And they were. And they. They named like two people. They were. I can't remember who it was, but it was. It was. They were like, Manila.

[Kandy Muse]

Oh, Manila. Bianca, you too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This was before. This was so long been on Bianca. But this was like eight years ago. They were like, Manila. And I was like, okay.

[Monet X Change]

I will say nothing. Like, I mean, I love LA clubs, whatever, they're good. But there is nothing like just bobbing around. Maybe it's because that's where I'm from and like, that's why I grew up in like my drag. But, like, going to like all, like the bars in New York and like doing that vibe, that energy, I. I think they're LA will never compare to that. But that quality of life, quality of life.

[Kandy Muse]

I was the same. The quality of living, the weather. Like, sometimes I go, like to some old towns and I'm like, damn, bitch, what I pay for in New York? You get to big ass house, right?

[Monet X Change]

That was my. What I was paying for my two bedroom apartment in Harlem. I could get a whole fucking townhouse in la. I was like, this is crazy. I was like, why am I. Why am I doing this? Money.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Had a townhouse in LA for the

[Monet X Change]

price of a two bedroom apartment in New York, which is crazy. New Yorker. New York will get you, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet said. Monet is flex on it. Monet said, first of all, ugly name. Monet said, you're broke. Roberta's a piece of name. People who won All Stars didn't really win Drag Race. You're on one today. You're really on one today. And I'm not. I'm not proud of you. This is why you deserve to be on the House of Traders. Monet changed for House. House of Villains, season three. Yeah, I think you'd be good on there, Monet. I. I would love it. I don't know if I have many more of these shows than me. I've only done. I mean, I've done a few real. Okay. I have done America's Got Talent. I have done Last Coming Standing. I have done RuPaul's Drag Race. I have done We're Here, which is not a competition show, but it's a, you know, unscripted reality television show. And. And now I've done House the Traitors. I don't know how many more of these. I don't know. I don't know how. How New York has done, like, 30 of these things.

[Kandy Muse]

Well, you know, she. She's an engaged woman with two houses, one in la, one New York, because she loves doing tv. I love doing tv. I have said yes to every show that has come my way. I said, allegedly, I was here. The reboot. So I had said yes to that. And then last minute, no, it's me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, wait, wait. You got us to do. We're here.

[Kandy Muse]

Oh, seriously?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When?

[Kandy Muse]

Allegedly, when it was the. The reboot with the new girls or.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not the reboot.

[Kandy Muse]

The rebrand. I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

Girl.

[Kandy Muse]

The new girl. The new cast.

[Jerry (Insurance Assistant Ad Voice)]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You mean when I got fired?

[Kandy Muse]

Yeah. So I had met with. We. I did a bunch of meetings with producers, met with the HBO executive. I think that HBO executives were not feeling me and not meeting. I just felt like we weren't clicking. I was like. But it was. It was great. I ain't gonna say who I helped get on that show, but it was great. The girls look cute on there.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, they. They saw me too. I. I did. I didn't mean it with them, too. I did it with the. With the EP and the creators. I did as well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's your name? What's the name? DP's name?

[Monet X Change]

Some with an L. What are you,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

the Long island medium? I'm getting a vision. Water.

[Kandy Muse]

There's water.

[Monet X Change]

The white dude with, like, the curly. The short curly hair.

[Kandy Muse]

They were nice, though. The producers are so sweet.

[Monet X Change]

They were very sweet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet. Shut the fuck up. Monet. You at the premiere?

[Monet X Change]

No, no, no. I really did. I started with Steve and Johnny, and then it's the guy with the tall white guy with the white wife with the curly hair with the wife is crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There were no straight guys working on. There were no straight guys working on money. There were literally no straight guys working over there.

[Monet X Change]

Peter Legecki. Legecky Lewecki.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Peter Legreco is gay. Is he? No, I'm kidding.

[Monet X Change]

No, he's not gay. Oh, you,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Peter, if you're listening, I'm just, I don't think Peter listens to the podcast. I think Peter will be safe from this, from this one time here. Are you watching the current season of Drag Race?

[Kandy Muse]

I am, I am. I think they are a bunch of young ass. My God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How old are you, Candy?

[Kandy Muse]

I just turned 30.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, 33, 32.

[Kandy Muse]

Hold on now. I just turned 30 in November. But they're young. I remember like the oldest one we had on my season, Tamisha. I think she was like 45 maybe. And I love when they're older queens on the show. Specifically, like, if you watch like older seasons, like three. I don't know what else other old are on this show, but everyone here is like 21, 22, 23. I'm like, oh, my God. But you know what? It makes for chaos. And I, I, I hope the girls bring it. So far, the first two episodes are cute. I like them. I'm not a fan of when girls don't get sent home. And that's rich coming from someone that got saved after elimination.

[Monet X Change]

You sure did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In your Beyonce dress. Okay, I don't want to cause drama.

[Kandy Muse]

Oh, oh, God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But do you two want to have a conversation about the dress as long as the stage.

[Kandy Muse]

Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

The dress as long as the stage. Where is this dress? You pull it up under that Christmas tree before this.

[Kandy Muse]

You know what's so funny? I just came across this. Let me go to hela because designed it and made it. And it was, it was beige. It was for the, the trains Runway. And the thing about it is it was a 46 yard. It sounds crazy, but it really. It was a 46, it was a 46 yard train. And I granted. Ah, there it is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is a picture.

[Kandy Muse]

That's it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, that's a picture. I want a picture. You're telling me this man made a dress with a tray that was 46 yard and no one took a picture.

[Kandy Muse]

Here's the thing though. When we, when I went in for the. Hold on, do I have a photo? I, I have to. Because we tried it on. Hold on, hold on. I gotta go back all the way to 2000 when we film Dragon. Okay, listen, so when, hold on. There's my double, there's my alien. And this is the one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The.

[Kandy Muse]

Okay, so we don't have the train on here, but I'm telling you it exists. And I wasn't. I was. I was gonna wear on the Runway, but it was too long. And also the dress, it was like, a little, like, if you went to, like, the. The little, like, cheapy little, like, dress stores, like a little, like, girl, like, simple fabric. And so the train was so long that the dress would pull and it would look weird. So I was like, okay, I can't walk in this. And production was like, baby, that's too long. So I was. I told gambling. I said, can you help me cut the train? And she was like, they're gonna look like a regular boring ass dress. I was like, oh. So then what I did was I cut the back of the train for my double Runway that we did in the fashion show and put it on my finale dress and wore that. And then when they came to the very last day, they were like, hey, we're packing up. This dress took a whole bin. I said, mama, I ain't taking that shit. I left it on set. I went about my way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So to be clear, the dress was destroyed, has been thrown in the ocean, and will never be seen beheaded.

[Monet X Change]

Whatever the fuck the fucking.

[Kandy Muse]

I really. I really. I want to know what they did with it. It was on. I left it on set. So, I mean, I will say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is a. That would be a very elaborate lie. That would be a very. That would be a Monet exchange level elaborate lie if it was a lie. So do you believe Candy now? Do you believe women?

[Monet X Change]

You know, I still have a question,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

and Kandi is a woman. She's one of the most powerful women in reality television.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yes, bitch. Congratulations on that, by the way.

[Kandy Muse]

Thank you.

[Monet X Change]

That's so fucking sickening.

[Kandy Muse]

Thank you. That's the. I'm using that little achievement to bribe Viacom or. Sorry, not Viacom anymore. Allegedly Paramount to have me host the Pit Stop next season for all stress 10.

[Monet X Change]

As you should.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You take Monet's job. Go grab Monet by the. By the. By the head hairs on her necky neck. Neck and take that job. Enough.

[Kandy Muse]

We've seen you girls for, like, 18 seasons, okay?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have not done. I have not hosted the Pit Stop in a very long.

[Monet X Change]

Two years ago.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was it two years ago?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God, girl. No, it was years ago.

[Kandy Muse]

That was also.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was also six seasons ago.

[Kandy Muse]

Before.

[Monet X Change]

Four seasons ago.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I ask him a question?

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it too much Drag Race?

[Monet X Change]

I mean, fans aren't getting. The fans are still watching it So

[Kandy Muse]

I was gonna say for the viewers and the culture. No, for the work. Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now, we discussed. The girls can't get booked.

[Kandy Muse]

We discussed. Yeah, I saw that video. Now, not every girl can't get booked. Let's just clock that T real quick. I'm still very booked and busy. But I have noticed, and I've been told word of mouth, that it has been very hard to get work in the recent days. Everything's expensive. Every drag show ticket is, like, $50.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kandy Muse]

You go to a bar, you have to spend a minimum of, like, $40. I get it. You know, so the clubs. Back in the day, you used to bring your assistant on the road with you, and the club will pay for it. You know, it ain't like that no more. And unfortunately for the new girls, I always tell the new girls, look, drag race is a golden ticket. It's amazing. I would do it a million times. I love it. Putting all your eggs in one basket. Just know that when you leave the show, you have to have more.

[Jerry (Insurance Assistant Ad Voice)]

You.

[Kandy Muse]

You. What are you going to do more than just the clubs because Mama dying going to pay the bills.

[Monet X Change]

Not anymore.

[Kandy Muse]

Not the way it used to.

[Monet X Change]

You gotta diversify your portfolio. You cannot just be doing like you in this day and age. You really have to just take that. Take the gift of dragon tricks. And I talked about this. Like, girls would get on the show and they'd be. And again, I understand that. I have. I came back on All Stars.

[Jerry (Insurance Assistant Ad Voice)]

I won.

[Monet X Change]

Whatever. But when I did season 10 and I got eliminated, I was still grateful. I was like, you know what, bitch? I've been trying to audition for this for five years. I finally got it. I went home for tenth place, whatever. Sixth place, whatever. Like, I was happy with the lot I had, right? But people get on the show, they'd be so mad. I can't believe I'm on that fucking show. RuPaul didn't braid my hair. I didn't get his number. Like, why the fuck did I do this shit? I'm like, girl, that's. That to me. That's so crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

RuPaul didn't braid your hair.

[Monet X Change]

No, you didn't. Not me. Monique got it, though. Monique. Monique's hair was. Was braided.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I. If George just told me RuPaul braided her hair, I would believe it.

[Kandy Muse]

It's always so crazy to me when girls get off the show and, like, hate the show. Because I had a good old time. Me and RuPaul were like this, huh? I live for. Listen, that woman in my Eyes can do no wrong.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you still mad at the girls on Tik Tok Live asking for galaxies?

[Kandy Muse]

Okay, you know what the tea is? It's so funny because. Because that I posted a video, and that video was even about the drag race, girl. It was about this one creator named Ash Trevino, who I've been like, oh,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ash Trevino isn't actually in drama right now.

[Kandy Muse]

Yeah, she's like. She's always in drama, and she's always on Tick Tock live begging. She's like, girls, give me a galaxy. A galaxy. And I'm like, okay, you are sitting here begging, which, listen, if people are gonna send you money, if they're gonna send you money, girl, keep begging and make the coin. Because last night, me and Mr. Put on tick Tock and we invited Gia in, and Gia does this thing where they do battling on TikTok. I don't know. And someone sent me a galaxy and a lion, and I made, like, $200. I was like, oh, girl. Just from this.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yo, it's saying galaxy. I was like, why do people want Galaxy phones? Like, so what? To reach Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're not that old, Monet. You're not that out of touch, Monet. I don't believe that you're out of that touch. I have. You're not that out of touch.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know what galaxies. I thought. I thought people were saying, like, send me galaxies, Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know who Dorinda is, and you're not that out of touch. Okay,

[Monet X Change]

Anyway, wait, Candy. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Money stands on the way.

[Monet X Change]

Way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Go ahead, Jacob.

[Monet X Change]

All this money from doing the Tik Tok Live, the battling and the things.

[Kandy Muse]

I was there, I was clueless, and they gave me. So now the people that are on there all the time, the queens are on there all the time. Gia told me. She said, girl, I haven't done in the last three rounds. You see me on Tik Tok Live for a reason. I said, oh, well, you're sending me the money, then give it. So my thing, my video wasn't about any queens, but if. You know, I would say if the bullet influenza don't dodge it, the bullet might hit you. But that's so Southern.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You sound like a Southerner with that. Now, if the bullet ain't for you, don't dodge it, honey.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, jk, Wait. What's the. What's the quiz?

[Kandy Muse]

Yes, There is a RuPaul's Drag Race alumni live on Tik Tok right now, this very moment. Can you guess who it is.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, the Miss Foxy lady.

[Kandy Muse]

Malaysia, baby. Don't fox. Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah,

[Kandy Muse]

listen, she. I know she's on there all the time, so she must be making bank.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, she's always on there. Every time I like open my tik tok, I always scroll into her live at some point.

[Kandy Muse]

But you know where I live, because some girls do music, some girls do tick tock videos like Plastique, some girls do brand deals. She found her niche. And you know what? In a world where the girls are not getting booked all the time, if

[Bob the Drag Queen]

that works for you, give it my total side note. Much as I love her silky nugget, Megan Knox loves love to fight on the Internet. Like, she loves to fight one time silky night making Knox got mad. I wasn't even involved in the. But someone. She was just like, why y' all love the winners? Don't y' all know me and Bob do the same gigs?

[Kandy Muse]

And I was like, girl, you didn't know. She was also there with Madonna.

[Monet X Change]

The same.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was like when me. When me and Monet were in the argument with that one. Well, I wasn't. Monet wasn't arguing. I wasn't arguing with that one girl who kept being like Monet was nice. And Bob acted like she didn't know who I was. Like, I didn't know you. She said, we worked the same clubs.

[Monet X Change]

We didn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't remember that girl, but she was the one.

[Monet X Change]

I don't remember either.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Met you in the basement at therapy. And I. And we. Her and I was like, baby, you. There was. You and I were not working the same club she competed at.

[Kandy Muse]

They were like, how jokes are you therapist didn't even have a basement,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

y'.

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[Kandy Muse]

Yeah, I literally. I literally. I am obsessed with this podcast. Me and my friends watch it all the time. You two are a hoot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And listen, stick around for a little bit of a. We have a. A fun game we want to play with Kandy over on the Patreon. So we have a.

[Monet X Change]

A fun little game.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If I haven't even approved this with Candy yet. So it's. That's. Maybe it'll be there. Allegedly, we're on Patreon right now.

[Monet X Change]

Allegedly. It's going to happen.

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