The One About Kandy Muse

Summary

Sibling Rivalry Podcast Episode Summary: "The One About Kandy Muse"

Host: Sibling Rivalry & Studio71
Guests: Kandy Muse
Release Date: January 27, 2025

In the lively episode titled "The One About Kandy Muse," hosts Bob the Drag Queen and Monet X Change sit down with guest Kandy Muse to delve deep into her experiences on RuPaul's "House of Villains," her journey in the drag world, and the intricate dynamics of reality TV competition shows. This detailed summary captures the essence of their engaging conversation, highlighting key insights, notable quotes, and the infectious chemistry that makes "Sibling Rivalry" a hit podcast.

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Introduction to Kandy Muse ([02:00] - [03:48])

The episode begins with Bob and Monet enthusiastically welcoming Kandy Muse to the podcast. They set the stage for an in-depth discussion, emphasizing Kandy's vibrant personality and her significant role in "House of Villains."

Kandy Muse ([02:10]): "At that point, what the fuck was I gonna do."

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Behind the Scenes of "House of Villains" ([02:00] - [25:17])

Strategic Gameplay and Alliances ([02:00] - [10:44])

Kandy shares her strategic maneuvers within the competition, highlighting pivotal moments that influenced her standing in the show. She discusses her alliance with Pex and the betrayal that led to her elimination.

Kandy Muse ([20:44]): "I knew the final vote would come down to him. So I told him... make sure he does not win."

Beef with Season Two Winner Tyra B ([09:17] - [12:57])

The conversation shifts to the simmering tensions with Tyra B, a prominent figure from Season Two. Kandy addresses public misunderstandings and clarifies that there's no personal beef.

Kandy Muse ([09:16]): "I said what I said, and I meant what I said, and I'm staying by what I said."

Reflections on Contest Dynamics ([12:57] - [25:17])

Bob and Kandy delve into the behaviors and professionalism of other contestants, particularly criticizing Alyssa's actions both on and off the show.

Bob the Drag Queen ([14:08]): "She has either quit or been fired from every gig I've done with her."

Monet X Change ([25:17]): "I do think that back on her season and plus the years after, people were hard on her."

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Fashion and Iconic Looks ([05:17] - [15:02])

Evolution of Style ([05:17] - [08:15])

Monet and Bob compliment Kandy on her fashion evolution post-"Drag Race," acknowledging her red carpet appearances and how she's reinvented her style without compromising her essence.

Monet X Change ([05:38]): "People aren't looking for us all the time."

Memorable Outfits and Missteps ([08:15] - [15:02])

The trio reminisces about Kandy's most memorable outfits, including the infamous alien look and other fashion choices that sparked conversations both for better and worse.

Kandy Muse ([06:03]): "I try to make up for some of the fashion misses I had on Drag Race."

Bob the Drag Queen ([08:15]): "Sometimes a bad fashion moment can be as iconic as a good one."

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Life in New York vs. Los Angeles ([38:37] - [53:29])

Decision to Stay in Brooklyn ([38:37] - [45:18])

Kandy explains her choice to reside in Brooklyn instead of moving to Los Angeles, highlighting the cultural and lifestyle differences that influence her decision.

Kandy Muse ([50:00]): "I'm a senior. Girls, I named 1... 2."

Cost of Living and Quality of Life ([45:18] - [53:29])

Monet and Kandy discuss the high cost of living in New York compared to LA, sharing personal anecdotes about housing and lifestyle preferences.

Monet X Change ([53:22]): "The quality of living, the weather... going to some old towns, I'm like, damn, bitch, what I pay for in New York?"

Kandy Muse ([53:29]): "The quality of living, the weather... it makes for chaos."

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Other Reality TV Shows and Perspectives ([25:17] - [43:00])

Comparing Reality Competitions ([25:17] - [35:00])

The hosts explore their thoughts on other reality TV franchises like "Survivor," "Big Brother," and "Traders," debating the merits and challenges of each format.

Monet X Change ([48:33]): "They call me. I'll probably do it Traders."

Kandy Muse ([29:28]): "I would want to be a traitor."

Casting Preferences and Strategies ([35:00] - [43:00])

Kandy Muse shares her ideas on casting for "House of Villains," suggesting potential drag queens who would excel in a villainous role based on their personalities and styles.

Kandy Muse ([27:18]): "She would kill it. And my two villain sisters... plain dream."

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Personal Life and Relationships ([43:00] - [66:54])

Kandy's Dating Life ([43:00] - [50:33])

Kandy opens up about her recent relationships, including her breakup at the end of last year and her current low-key dating situation.

Kandy Muse ([45:35]): "Last year I was seeing someone for a whole year... we mutually decided it wasn't going anywhere."

Hosts' Personal Anecdotes ([50:33] - [66:54])

Monet and Bob share humorous and candid stories about their personal lives, relationships, and experiences within the drag and reality TV scenes.

Monet X Change ([60:41]): "I'm trying to think. Yeah, I would do Trader."

Bob the Drag Queen ([62:25]): "Drag Race is the golden ticket, it's amazing... but people get so mad."

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Social Media and Fan Interactions ([65:00] - [66:47])

Engaging with Fans ([65:00] - [66:04])

The discussion turns to how Kandy and the hosts interact with fans on platforms like TikTok, emphasizing the importance of diversifying their online presence.

Kandy Muse ([65:00]): "She's always on there. Every time I open my TikTok, I always scroll into her live at some point."

Monet X Change ([65:47]): "Drag Race queens are on there all the time... give it 100."

Monetizing Content ([66:04] - [66:47])

They talk about the challenges and strategies of monetizing their social media content, with a focus on maintaining authenticity while engaging with their audience.

Monet X Change ([66:47]): "I'm obsessed with this podcast. Me and my friends watch it all the time."

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Conclusion and Wrap-Up ([66:54] - [67:09])

The episode wraps up with heartfelt appreciation for Kandy Muse's participation, highlighting the fun and insightful nature of their conversation. The hosts tease upcoming interactive segments and games exclusive to Patreon subscribers.

Monet X Change ([66:54]): "This was such a fun episode."

Kandy Muse ([66:55]): "I am obsessed with this podcast. You two are a hoot."

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Notable Quotes

• Kandy Muse ([09:17]): "I have no beef on my part either, girl."
• Bob the Drag Queen ([14:08]): "She has either quit or been fired from every gig I've done with her."
• Monet X Change ([53:22]): "The quality of living, the weather... going to some old towns, I'm like, damn, bitch, what I pay for in New York?"

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This episode of "Sibling Rivalry" offers a candid and entertaining glimpse into Kandy Muse's journey in the competitive world of drag and reality TV. Through honest discussions and humorous banter, listeners gain valuable insights into the strategies, challenges, and personal experiences that shape the lives of these vibrant personalities.

Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[Monet X Change]

And I'm Monet X James. And this is Sibling Rivalry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On this week's episode, we welcome Kandy Muse to the pod.

[Monet X Change]

We spilled some tea on the reality shows we've allegedly been on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We find out what made Monet say this.

[Monet X Change]

Uh, can you give us some examples of that, Bob the Drag Queen? I'm very curious.

[Kandy Muse]

We find out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're on one today, Mo. You're really on one today.

[Monet X Change]

And we find out what made Kandi say this.

[Kandy Muse]

At that point. What the fuck was I gonna do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y'All? Honey, the three Ozempic baddies.

[Kandy Muse]

Ooh.

[Monet X Change]

First of all, I have never taken Ozempic, okay?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Go watch Monet's video where she publicly claim Manjaro.

[Monet X Change]

Get your fucking facts straight. Manjaro, baby.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was on Semaglutide. The cheap version I had. I got the.

[Kandy Muse]

I was on both Ozempic and Semaglutide. Both.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, I thought Ozempic was semi glutide.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it is, but Ozempic is a brand. I think Ozempic is a brand of semaglutide.

[Monet X Change]

Got it.

[Kandy Muse]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. You at Candy. I think I'm happy y'all call me the fucking orange red Memo. No one told me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, my. One of my favorite moments from House of Villains, where Candy was. Someone says something and you're like, what did you say, Candy? Something like, I don't feel well or I'm tired or something. They say, what?

[Kandy Muse]

I feel nauseous. And Wes was like, why are you nauseous? I was like, ugh, Ozempic. And funny enough, I had started Ozempic that exact week that I went to go film House of Villains. So it was not fun.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, no, girl, you're going through Ozempic and started filming that fucking show. You better work, girl.

[Kandy Muse]

And the gag is you're not so even supposed to drink on Ozemik, and I was just drinking tequila down.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I guess we don't need to introduce. I mean, you need no introduction. Because if you are a sibling rivalry listener or a watcher or follower, you know exactly who this mother Tucket diva is. In the house on the pod, we finally have the queen Kandy Muse.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hello from the Bronx. Now, Monet talk that shit about the Bronx.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, Kandy Muse, she know. She know what it is. Brooklyn has always been more superior than the Bronx. It is what it is.

[Kandy Muse]

All right, let's not get crazy now. You know, Brooklyn and Bronx got a little beef. But I do reside in Brooklyn now, so I can't be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not dual citizenship. Not dual citizenship. This is crazy also, y'all.

[Monet X Change]

We did not film this around Christmas time. Kandi just still has all of her Christmas decorations.

[Kandy Muse]

Ok, hold on. Because I knew y'all was overclocked. The Christmas decorations. I am Dominican, and the decorations do not come off until February 14th on Valentine's Day weekend.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's cultural, Monet. It's culture. How dare you?

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy.

[Kandy Muse]

No, the guy gets that every I this week. I have woken up every day and I'm like, okay, today will be the day. And then I look at it, I'm like, mm. I'm not touching that candy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You miss a lot.

[Monet X Change]

Your skin looks so good. You look so, so lovely and healthy and lovely.

[Kandy Muse]

I have collarbones now. I didn't have that before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I just say something that I've said about you for a long time, especially when it comes to your red carpet looks. Always eat. You were in that big blazer, tiny mustache phase. For a while it was. And like, the pastels and faces, it gave so hard. I don't think people would give you enough credit for your fashions, especially at these red carpet events. It's so good.

[Kandy Muse]

Thank you. You know what? It is? I think that now I try to make up for some of the fashion misses I had on Drag Race. So every time I'm invited to an event, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna show up and show out and try to do the absolute most. Because sometimes these red carpet events are the only way you get press. You know, they. The press ain't looking for us all the time.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah. Well, so I don't know who. I don't know who Bob is talking about. People, I think. I mean, in my opinion, I think especially post Drag Race, you have been regarded as someone who is one of, like, you know, the fashion girlies, I think.

[Kandy Muse]

So call me about the Chachki, honey.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, both of your promos, both of your promos in both seasons, always like, you had the one, if not the best, like, in the top two of both seasons, you were on the show.

[Kandy Muse]

Thank you. And that's one thing I do, I pride myself on. I said if I ever. If I ever were to go back a third time, it would be just for the promo and just, like, alien.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Look, the iconic alien look that you refuse to photograph in the.

[Kandy Muse]

The pockets look. Okay, to be fair, that one was made by a pinwheel. Pinwheel. Which you've worked with before on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have three pinwheel pieces.

[Kandy Muse]

Yeah. So that was the one outfit that I did not do a fitting for. And my best friend was telling me, he said, hey, do a fitting before you leave. And I was just so overwhelmed. I was like, you know what? It's a little good when I get there.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kandy Muse]

I didn't have hair for it. I didn't have shoes for it. I didn't have anything. I just had an outfit. And I remember the day I was in the workroom getting ready and I put it on, and I was like, okay, you like. And then. And then I had this little blonde Bob, and I put it on. I was like, well, maybe I could. And you know how Drag Race has the. When you leave the workroom, it has all the materials.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kandy Muse]

They had, like, colorful spray paint, and I, like, spray painted the hair. And I remember just looking in the mirror, just thinking, like, wow, I look disgusting. And I asked the girls, I was like, how do I look in the girls? Like, oh, you look so good, girl. At that point, what the fuck was I gonna do?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, well, it's. It's one of those things, right? Somebody does. So you. So you have two options. You say, either you say, yeah, you look good, like, whatever, or the. The second option is like, girl, you look a mess. Then they start freaking out, and there's really nothing to do at that point. So, you know what? Telling them someone, they look okay I think is the best answer in that situation.

[Kandy Muse]

And the gag is Olivia had an extra outfit. It was a black, red, and gray outfit that she didn't wear for the Runway. I think it was her original pockets Runway. I was going to ask her to wear it, but my makeup was orange or red? Orange and green. I was like, you know what it is what it is. I'm gonna try to sell it. And.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you know what? It worked out, and you had an iconic moment. Sometimes, as the three of us know, sometimes a bad fashion moment can be iconic, and that. It just is what it is. Sometimes a bad fashion moment can be as iconic as a good fashion moment. It can.

[Monet X Change]

Can you give us some examples of that, Bob the Drag Queen? I'm very curious.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This iconic robot look.

[Monet X Change]

Iconique, Girl, anyway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, girl, Anyway.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway, wait, so, Candy, so you live in BK now?

[Kandy Muse]

I do. I haven't made the jump yet to, like, LA and stuff, and I'm in Brooklyn. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, wait. While I appreciate the interview. So you're living in so and so you live here from the Bronx? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. B, B, B. Ratty kakaka. Let's talk about the thing that people really want to hear about.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, no, we're talking about Scandicc is coming to la.

[Kandy Muse]

Oh, Lord.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's talk about the thing, what people really want to talk about, which is the fact that both of you have had iconic beef with the winner of season two of RuPaul's Drag Race.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, you know, okay, here.

[Kandy Muse]

Here's the full tea. Because it ain't no beef on my part. Maybe I said what I was.

[Monet X Change]

No beef on my part either, girl.

[Kandy Muse]

I said what I said, and I meant what I said, and I'm staying by what I said. And even though last night I did see, I have a block. So I. Someone sent me a screenshot of her story, and there was, like, photos of me in the collage, and she said, you nasty fat bitch, I have your location acquired. Whatever. First of all, mama, I'm one to get down for the get down. And when I see you outside, we could do the fade one, too. If you're gonna. If you're gonna publicly post that you have my location, then I'm going to publicly go to the police. See, I could turn white woman real quick.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First and foremost, I'm so.

[Kandy Muse]

I need help, you know, but my thing is, again, it's not even beef. It's the fact that, like, I think, and I've always said this for. I've always defended Tyra for years because I do think that back on her season and plus the. Whatever years after, people were hard on her, and I can't imagine what it is to have half the world hate you just because you were great. Because she was one of the best on her season, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was the best on her season.

[Kandy Muse]

She was the best. So I get the whole mental health part of it, and I get that after a while, you. You know, it starts to drive you a little bit crazy. However, I don't think it gives you an excuse to act the way she acted. Make that post on the day of the Vivian's death announcement was just, like, so insensitive and so crazy. Because even if you have beef with the bitch, the tweet was from five years ago. And if you could not say what you felt five years ago, then don't say now when the bitch cannot defend herself.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. And then so just. Just, just in case some people who aren't aware of all the drag drama, whatever. This is a screenshot of the. Of. Of what happened. The Vivian tweeted this in 2020, and on the day of her death announcement, Tyra Reek quote, tweeted it with this on top of it, some crazyness. Like, it was so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, it's like, then RuPaul posted this on Instagram, posted this, everything.

[Monet X Change]

I was like, rupaul, don't be speaking out alive.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, for him to, like.

[Monet X Change]

Come out and be like, I was geeked.

[Kandy Muse]

I was guy. I woke up the next day and I was like, oh, this is not real. Like, this is a fan account. And it was her. Oh, okay. I mean, I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Good.

[Monet X Change]

And as soon as she posted across.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All platforms, she posted on Instagram, she posted on TikTok, she posted on LinkedIn, she posted on UberEats, Blue Sky Friendster.

[Monet X Change]

It was wild. I was like. And the first comment I see, it was not. You know, before you even click the comments, the thing is, the thing you see is just Kandy Muse, mother in Bright Capital mother.

[Kandy Muse]

Because I feel like. I feel like me tweeting at. Tyra gave the tweet A little more attention than it originally had. And the tweet got back to RuPaul. And I think because of that, RuPaul posted what she posted. So you know what, work mother. Because while people were calling for, like, oh, strip Tara of her title, which I think would be so cut. Although, you know, whatever, I do think that is RuPaul. While RuPaul posted that, I was like, okay, you know what? Because this bitch I live for mother, she don't speak out a lot, but she did now, and that's what matters. And it was kind. It was everything.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I would say strip of her title because she did deserve. She did deserve the title. She did win it. And also I trip her.

[Kandy Muse]

Strip her.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, but I mean, but why are reasons that people strip people with titles? They do it for bad behavior. They do it because for cheap. For if later they find out, whatever. Like, there are multiple reasons why you can trust someone with the title. And I think threatening to blow us all up at dragcon annually, threatening to kill other contestants, like. Like that. I mean, I think those are grounds for someone of the title of the show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It will do. It will do nothing to all. It would do nothing to. Doesn't care.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, whatever. But it's not for her. It's for RuPaul and the prime also.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then your fave will really get drama when everyone be like. You mean when Raven was handed her crown after losing Drag Race twice? That would be. That would do Raven no favors.

[Kandy Muse]

The guy is, I think, strip it and don't give it to anyone. Just leave the crown there for the season.

[Monet X Change]

For the girls.

[Kandy Muse]

For all the girls.

[Monet X Change]

For all the girls. Oh, my God. They should really recreate the fucking mean girl scene and just get a fake. A fake crown. Just give everybody a piece of Montreal. Yeah, Coco, Montreal was famously stripped. No. Or was it?

[Kandy Muse]

Who was it?

[Monet X Change]

Alyssa was stripped of.

[Kandy Muse]

Alyssa was stripped.

[Monet X Change]

Alyssa was shrink everybody. Yeah. So, I mean, it happens all the time. Whatever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, why?

[Monet X Change]

Why was Alyssa strip Bob? You know, I don't know. Oh, I don't know either.

[Kandy Muse]

I believe it was scheduling context conflicts.

[Monet X Change]

They stripped over a title.

[Kandy Muse]

I believe winning the pageant, you have to do certain things and, like, make certain events. And she wasn't either. Alyssa didn't want to make those events or wasn't able to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So they found beyond belief she was dancing with them kids. I would say this. This is not shade. This is just a fact. And I might get. I might get. Get got on the Internet for this.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Every gig I have ever Done with Alyssa. She has either quit or been fired from every y'all. This is not an exaggeration.

[Monet X Change]

We.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is not an exaggeration. She has either quit. I remember, I was there when she. When she. When she told off the guy at Murray and Peter and stormed out.

[Monet X Change]

Chris.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Chris. Then she told me and me and Naomi, she goes, baby, if RuPaul drank raising tomorrow, y'all wouldn't have jobs.

[Kandy Muse]

I said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We said to our faces, we were like, that's it, girl. Both of us had jobs before post trackers.

[Monet X Change]

That's not my experience. When she. I mean, the last gig we together was Roscoe's, like, two years ago.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And.

[Monet X Change]

But she. She was there before me. She was. She was in her. She ready to go. So I didn't say she was late.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I never said she was late. I.

[Kandy Muse]

She just. Because when I did, we did a club kids tour, like, two years ago in Europe, and she was first one ready at the meet and greet, hot, sweaty. She was there. She. You know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But to be clear, she's never been fired or quit because she was late.

[Monet X Change]

Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Something went wrong. Something she didn't like. Like, if Alyssa doesn't like it, she'll just leave. Like, if Alyssa is slightly inconvenient, she's like, I don't need this. I'll just leave.

[Monet X Change]

That is. That is another one. Another company that kind of went up. Well, not. We're not talking about companies, but club kids. Didn't they go up in flames because they were, like, shading the girls and doing some crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, they're not.

[Kandy Muse]

They're not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're not operating anymore.

[Kandy Muse]

Not paying the girl.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, girls. They were. They were. They were managing girls and mishandling their funds and also doing gigs with girls and not paying girls in the gigs.

[Kandy Muse]

Like, you know what they would do?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They.

[Kandy Muse]

They. They kind of. They up the drag scene in UK and Europe. They would have. Let's just say this. They would have. They will put on three events one night in Manchester just to like, make up for the money at. Wow. While they'll have three events in Manchester, they'll have a whole tour with the US Girls happening in the uk. Now, keep in mind, they don't have money for the Girls in Manchester show or the girls on the tour. When I did the. That European tour with Alyssa, and it took them six months. Allegedly. Right? Allegedly. Allegedly. This is all alleged. Allegedly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We don't know. We weren't there. It's a legend.

[Monet X Change]

Alleged, Right.

[Kandy Muse]

Allegedly. It took them six months to pay me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So when you said me, I can't, I thought you were gonna say someone.

[Kandy Muse]

Else.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Allegedly took the listen. We'll talk more about the alleged allegations after this break.

[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

I don't go for Krispy Kreme. I never met a Girl, in New.

[Kandy Muse]

York, we don't really have a lot of Krispy Kremes, like, laying around. We have Dunkin Donuts.

[Monet X Change]

Dunkin Donuts. Yeah. But we're not crazy like on Dunkin Donuts. Like, Boston bitches, they fucking eat, breathe. They will kill for Dunkin Donuts. We don't go up like that.

[Kandy Muse]

The thing is, also, they'd be having them donuts there sitting for like 12 hours.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that's the thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Here's the thing. Everyone, I don't think everyone kind of goes up for mediocre, shitty food from their hometown, right? So Dunkin'donuts is not great donuts. But these Boston girlies don't around about Dunkin Nuts. Y'all are associated by these bacon, egg, and cheese on a roll. Y'all love that. And it's really not that great because it's fresh. Okay. In Georgia, we go up. I don't think it's from here, but it's like, notoriously here. Waffle House. Waffle House is not great, but we love. We don't around about Wap. We don't around about Waffle House in Georgia. And then whenever it takes a morning, like, you gotta go to Waffle House, as I'm eating, I'm like, oh, it's really not that good. I just love Waffle House.

[Monet X Change]

I think. What's her name? Cracker Barrel. Cracker Barrel is that girl. To me, she's good.

[Kandy Muse]

I've been there once. And they're a little racist over there, so I don't know about that.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah.

[Kandy Muse]

Oh, for sure.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, you will get a side of microaggressions with your grits. Absolutely, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not a side of microaggressions. That being said, I want to talk about Kandy Muse. Kandy. Okay, spoiler alert.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For the House of Villains. If you have not watched House of Villains Season 2, this is your moment to chill. All right? Okay. Were you beside yourself when he looked at Wes, made him get down on his bet plead? What? What was going through your mind?

[Kandy Muse]

Okay, so here's some tea real quick. Prior. So that happened two days after I was eliminated. So Pex betrayed me because Wes told him to send me home. He sent me home. I came back the next day and Pex was crying. They didn't show this. Pex was crying. I'm so sorry. How can I make this up to you? Whatever. Whatever. Okay. I knew how the votes were going to go, and I knew that I was not going to vote for Pegs. And no one Else was going to either. Meaning the final vote will come down to him. So I told him with the impression that I would vote for him. I was like, listen. And for whatever reason, it just comes down to Wes and Safaree. Do me a favor and make sure that Wes does not win. If you want to make it up to me, make sure he does not win. He said, okay. What? I did not know that he was going to come out of his shell and make Wes get on his knees. Not one, both and beg. When I tell you. We were all. We were standing there. You can hear production gagging from the outside because they were just like, whoa. Like you couldn't even write this. It was so good. And I was like, you know what? Although me winning this show would have been cut, this is a much more cut ending. And I'm always down for some good television.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And the thing about Pex is this. Pex is a villain in wrestling world. But in real on the show seem like the nicest person in the house. It just seemed like a person surrounded by villains. But Pex was like, girl, I'm not really that girl in real life. I play a villain on tv. I'm Pex. Is that an accurate assumption you would say or assessment?

[Kandy Muse]

No. He definitely. He definitely was the sweetest person there. He was one of. One of my closest friends there. It was weird because this is like straight, white, muscular man and just like brown Dracula from the hood. Like somehow we clicked and we became really good friends. Is very chill. Which is why for half the season, most of the season, I was like, you ain't that much of a villain. But that little move right there at.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The end, he turned on Pectacular. Pectacular jumped out. He should have made him kiss his muscles. He should have been like, kiss my. If he would have been like, get off your knees and kiss my muscles. And then if he would have went and then he would have been like, and I vote for safari. That would have been. I mean, it was already. It was already crazy.

[Monet X Change]

First of all, I want to say something. I would have did that for fun. If we were in the house. I would have like, yes.

[Kandy Muse]

That's not.

[Monet X Change]

That's not a sentence. That is a gift.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cause you know, I mean. Cause I played with Wes too. Wes is on.

[Kandy Muse]

Wes has now played with three rugals with me on Villains Trinity, the Tuck on America's First Cook, Celebrity Edition. Yeah. The bitches on every fucking show I look at. And now Bob on the Traitors.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I. I remember Wes. Cause I used to watch Real World back in the day. I think he was Real World Austin. It was whatever. What? Whatever world he was. And, and, and Real World Austin. Someone's probably gonna. Gonna correct me, but like, he led with his sexual energy, like, apparently. But although with straight girls, Wes. Yes, but with straight girls, though, they. They will go up for mediocre dick. Now, I'm not saying west has a mediocre dick. I don't fucking know Wes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I'm not saying that.

[Kandy Muse]

Listen, if. What I. I'm not gonna say that. If Wes was flirting with me, I wouldn't flirt back. Not saying he did, but I'm not saying that I wouldn't. So I'm moving down for a little ginger.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, he was like on Real World, he was like that boy. Everyone's like. Everyone's like, oh, my God, Wes is so hot. And apparently Wes had a big dick. Apparently that's what they were going off on the Real World. Austin.

[Kandy Muse]

I. I've heard stories.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, A horrible question.

[Monet X Change]

What was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was Safaree schlingaling around the house?

[Kandy Muse]

You know what's so crazy? The most question I get asked, it's about Safaree's dick.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everywhere.

[Kandy Muse]

Everyone wants to know about his dick and did I sleep with him? One, No, I did not sleep with Safari, which is insane.

[Monet X Change]

Imagine Candy sleeps with Safaree and gets in drama with fucking Erica Mena. That would be.

[Kandy Muse]

Or Nicki Minaj, right? No, his, his, his. That's my brother. So I gotta. You know, his dick is huge. He was wearing these like little short shorts to work out. I'm like, all right, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow.

[Kandy Muse]

It was over. But Safari is one of the sweetest and funniest person I've ever met. And personally, contractually, there are certain things I can't say on here because a contract. But he has done so much for me outside of the show. And honestly, like, that is a ride or a die word.

[Monet X Change]

And then so you get that, you get the. You get the, the. The hit up the casting to do House of Villains. Like, where the whole time you're like, oh, bitch, I'm going on for sure. Or were you nervous to be in a house with all these fucking straight people because you were only queer person? Like, was that. Was that a crazy thought?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The gag is the nudist was queer.

[Kandy Muse]

We was from two different generations, you know, and two different backgrounds. But no, listen, I remember it was Thursday, 8pm, I was on my way to Latin night and I got an email from the Village. Now, I hadn't watched Season one, because I don't really watch television, but my best friend watched it, and he was like, hey, you have to go on the show. So I watched, like, the first two episodes, and I was like, okay, Cute. I was nervous because when you're going to drag race, you know, you're going to a room full of other drafts. You all experience the same thing. You all work at the clubs. You know, all this going into a house with was. You don't know who. Okay, how is the situation going to be with me, like, getting ready? Am I getting ready in the bathroom? Like, am I going to have time to get a drag? Are people going to, like, be accepting all these things go through your head? And prior to walking in, I was really, really nervous. But let me tell you right off the back, on the very first day, everyone. The cast, production, everyone made me feel so. So included in fun, and they all love that I was there. So it just made things a little bit easier. And once you start to. To, like, show me that you like me, I started to gain this, like, this power. So the house was mine. I was like, anything I wanted to do, I was doing it there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What. What queens do you want to see on the next season of House of Villains? Candy Muse is now in charge of casting. What drag queen villains are we gonna get if Kandy Muse is the casting director?

[Kandy Muse]

Okay, there are three girls I have that I think would be great on the show. I'm also thinking of, like, how would a girl from drag Race translate onto this type of show because it's so different. I think she is controversial, but gia Gunn is 101. She's so fun.

[Monet X Change]

She would be so good and go.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What you think you do isn't necessarily what you're gonna do.

[Kandy Muse]

Absolutely.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Would kill it.

[Kandy Muse]

She would kill it. And my two villain sisters, who I'm not sure how they would be on the show, but I think it would be a great shot. Either mistress or plain dream, because these are girls who are not afraid to play the part of a villain. I just don't know how it would translate onto. It's. It's. It's weird. It's. It's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, explain it.

[Kandy Muse]

But in my mind, drag race girls sometimes don't translate onto other reality television shows.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And to all of you casting directors out there, it's okay to cast more than one r girl on a show at a time.

[Kandy Muse]

Clock it. Listen, I said the same thing about. About trailers. I said, why are there 50 from the challenge? 50 from Big Brother?

[Monet X Change]

You want to Hear.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You want to hear some tea?

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Allegedly, allegedly, and I don't know who, but allegedly someone else was asked to do my season with me. I don't know if they. I don't know if they said no. I don't know if they were busy. I don't know if they pass. Didn't pass the psyche. I don't know what happened, but allegedly one other queen was asked to do it on my season with me.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, well, this is on. What is this pink news?

[Kandy Muse]

Yeah, she. She's announced that she. She. She got offered. It's not a secret.

[Monet X Change]

Jesus Christ.

[Kandy Muse]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

Trixie Mattel explains turned down her role on the Traders Us.

[Kandy Muse]

You know what? I. I love Trixie, but we don't need her on trainers. She's not everything else gives other girls an opportunity.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think Trixie would have got gobbled up on Traders. She would have got gobbled.

[Monet X Change]

She would have got gobbled. Was casted and she was a traitor. She would fall like a fucking paperclip. She would. She would pass away.

[Kandy Muse]

Monaj, would you want to be a traitor or a faithful?

[Monet X Change]

So I'm a big Traitors fan. I've watched all the UK seasons. Watched. I've watched all three American seasons and I would love to be. I would either love to be a traitor from the beginning or be a faithful and get turned in the middle because they voted for Trader. To me, if you want to win, that's the best way to win. Start as a faithful, then get converting into a trader.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Halfway in, you can win as a trader the whole way through again.

[Monet X Change]

Cere did it, but as you can see, last season it was very hard for them to do that. But Sari, season one was fucking flawless. She ate that they were eating. She had them eating out of her asshole the entire season.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Delicious.

[Monet X Change]

It was crazy. But yeah, Candy, if you did it, would you be a trader? What would you want?

[Kandy Muse]

See, I. In my mind, I would want to be a traitor. But after watching the first three episodes of season three, I was like, okay, I think me being a traitor, I wasn't a villain. Me being a traitor would be too obvious. I feel like people would want. Really?

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Kandy Muse]

I bet you you're a traitor. Like, come on now.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kandy Muse]

Now being unfaithful is scary because I'm watching the show and I'm like, okay, you can go to bed tonight and be eliminated, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, hell no.

[Monet X Change]

You go to sleep and, you know some production come knocking your door like, hey, so unfortunately you were selected. I would be like going, I don't like that.

[Kandy Muse]

I don't like that.

[Monet X Change]

I'll be pissed. I'll be so fucking pissed. But what you gonna do about it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Besides being murdered?

[Monet X Change]

I want to get it. So you know, one of my.

[Kandy Muse]

Oh, you know what? Hold on. I'm gonna go on my exit interview with my red bob and my plaid dress and tell you how your fashion.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was a hot, like.

[Monet X Change]

Whatever her name is. She is mad at you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I said, I was like, you will never be as fabulous as me. I said, baby, I'll see you at the reunion.

[Kandy Muse]

You about to gag, honey, because she's a housewife. Bob, I have to ask, as a whole person is asking, did you really not know who Dorinda was prior to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did not know. Monet knows this. I don't watch housewives. I do not watch Real Housewives. I, I only watch competitive reality TV shows. And honestly, the ones I watch are house of villains, RuPaul's Drag Race, Dragula and the Traders. That's the only shows that I watch. So the only housewives I know, I know some Atlanta housewives, and I mean some. I know Nene Leaks. The ones I know aren't even on the show anymore. Nene Leaks. Candy, Phaedra, Joggers.

[Kandy Muse]

September.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then I know Bethany Frankel, Teresa Giudice, and the one I got into the fight with that barracuda years ago, Brandi Glanville and Erica Jane. Those are the only housewives out of the hundred. Whatever. How many housewives? Those are the only ones I know. And the ones that I was on, on the chat with. I don't know why people are so gagged. I do not know this woman. I don't know why they're so gagged by this. Do y'all know her?

[Monet X Change]

I, I, I didn't know Dorinda, Ivan. I watch high splits. To be fair, I only watch Atlanta. So I don't know Atlanta and, like, the other, like, really popular ones. But wake, like, how long has Dorinda been on the show?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. Do you know Dorinda Candy?

[Kandy Muse]

I don't know her. I only know there's this one clip of her. She's, like, not well, but, like, that's. I don't watch Housewives, so I don't.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, so y'all.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's really not that unheard of tonight, by the way. This is no shade. Let me be clear. Me not knowing Dorinda has no bearing on whether or not she's famous. Dorinda is obviously a famous person. Clearly her fans are trying to clear me on Twitter, Tick Tok, Instagram and Uber Eats. Okay, I had someone deliver my food and said Dorinder was robbed. I said, no, she was murdered and I snatched my food.

[Monet X Change]

But candy. So I am very jealous of you because I am a huge, huge New York fan and the fact that y'all actually. Let's take a break. And I was. We'll talk. So we'll talk about New York a little more.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, you're not that huge. You're pretty. You're pretty average size. I would say.

[Monet X Change]

It is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

In my very sweet soft voice and.

[Monet X Change]

Public school education, I'll discuss girly topics.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

With a bit of cheek. Topics like gaslighting. Die for it.

[Monet X Change]

Internalized misogyny. One of my faves.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honestly.

[Monet X Change]

And the depths of the dark dating world.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will beg you again and again to come and listen.

[Monet X Change]

But most of all, I hope you enjoy. You got to play and be homies. Coochie crunch with motherfucking New York Tiffany Pollard, an iconic. I mean, she's. She started the shit. She's the reason we are here today.

[Kandy Muse]

Literally. No, literally. You know, it never crossed my mind that she would be a returnee to the game. I was like. It just. It didn't cross my mind. I was, like, so focused on, like, being there that, like. And when she walked in, I was just like the fan girl in me. I was like, wait, you're telling me I get to be on a show with New York? Someone that I literally grew up watching, got into television because of her house of gates wood and her personality is because of New York. All her memes. And she's still 20 years later, like, come on. Fear of Love and out of New York. Those were the, like, those. It was wild. And then I got to know more of her and I would see, oh, this bitch knows this is her career. She has been doing this for 20 years. When the cameras are on, New York is on. When the cameras are off, house. New York is eating in her room. Do not bother her. She's away. She's quiet, smoking her blunt, just having a good old. I live. I live.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can we all take turns giving our favorite New York quotes? Does anyone want to go first? Because, I mean, New York is one of the true queens of reality.

[Monet X Change]

Beyonce.

[Kandy Muse]

Beyonce look like the Vandross. This is a very niche woman. Did she. This one, she goes, you upstairs. You are in some deep. When you come down here, just smack me in the face. This is dawn, right? Disappointment, disrespectful.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm gonna be a basic and do my all time it's so basic, but it's my all time favorite and it is the most iconic New York clip of all time. Pretty much I will. Pretty much I will let Gemma know that she is a fat cunt. The shoes that she gave me were not something I particularly buy for myself. They were old maiden type of shoes. And she said those shoes are meant to be one on a beautiful woman. So if that's the case, she should have put them back on their rack and she should never even purchase them in the first place because she's unqualified to own those shoes if that's the case. I mean, this quote is so also. Do you have 30 minutes? 30. Yes. To do that with her on Tick Tock. That's crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Everything.

[Kandy Muse]

No, I'm still thankful until this day. I'm hoping that some. The future. Just at least one more show with her. Just one more with New York.

[Monet X Change]

I feel like. I feel like New York would be an interesting and maybe a dope casting choice for Traitors. I think she'll be. Be so, so erratic though. I don't think they would. It would be insane having New York.

[Kandy Muse]

She's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's on a different level than, than the Traders.

[Kandy Muse]

Different mama. She has her own contract. I. I'll walk in her room. I'm like, wait, how do you have your phone right now? My phone's taken away. Girl. Her own contract. I am New York. Thank you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Allegedly. Allegedly.

[Kandy Muse]

Allegedly.

[Monet X Change]

He told me that David died. She like, also, like, when she does stuff a thing like the, the Gemma Collins rant, I'm like, it's like, was that just off the top of the dome? Like, did she like. How was you able to just structure this sentence off the top of your dome? Because it's just. It's impressive to me. I think it's so impressive.

[Kandy Muse]

She's quick. She's real quick.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you want to enter this realm of like these crazy reality TV shows? I know. Okay. Monet is crazy because for whatever reason she wants to do the one I would never do. You will never catch.

[Monet X Change]

I wouldn't survive her in your.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In your life.

[Monet X Change]

I would do Survivor. I would absolutely Survivor.

[Kandy Muse]

But things I've heard about the contestants that come off that show and allegedly have to get on medication. I'm good on that one.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Because you get like, you know, there's like a lot of bacteria and stuff like that because you literally, like, people think it's off of cameras. Like you are literally shitting in the. In like in like in like a water thing. You are sleeping on, like, rats are crawling like that. That's not for cameras. People. Like, that is real. I've been on all the Survivor subreddits, all the things like, like, they really are living like that. It is crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Apparently, a lot of them come back with cellulitis. A lot of them.

[Monet X Change]

What's cellulitis?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cellulitis is like, it's like an affection over your skin. Have you ever seen sometimes, like, if an unhoused person, their skin looks kind of, like, scaly and weird and rough and. Yeah, that's cellulitis.

[Monet X Change]

I don't want that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, but you want to do Survivor.

[Monet X Change]

I want to do it, though. It'll be funny.

[Kandy Muse]

And also, those contestants they play when they go on other reality shows, they like. Like, for example, Rich was so about the game. Not like, rich girl, relax. It's not that serious.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I would say this. You better than me, because when I went to the Traders, I was like, I'm not doing no drag. Y'all not about to get. Y'all not about to have me up in yags running around the Highlands of Scotland. Not me, honey. I was like, y'all gonna. I'm gonna give you some fashion, but I'm not gonna give you no drags.

[Kandy Muse]

I, I, I always thought by saying if I go into Trina squad, I do drag. Because for villains, I was like, same. I'll keep boy for challenge and for, like, elimination. I'll do drag.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. No, if, If I did traitors. I mean, Bob, you obviously know more about us than us, but I would. For the round tables, I would try to. I would try my best to do them in drag as much as possible. I would. I would want to be there in drag.

[Kandy Muse]

Do you sleep in the castle?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, of course.

[Kandy Muse]

Allegedly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Of course we do. You all sleep in the, in the, in the hats of Bill's house?

[Kandy Muse]

No, we do upstairs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Same. We do too.

[Kandy Muse]

Oh, I have a question, which I don't know if you can answer this. Where is the. The, like, the secret sanctum? Is it actually in the basement, or can you not say? I'm gonna say I'm off the show. I'll go. Allegedly secret. Okay, listen, the secret.

[Monet X Change]

We could call this the one about allegedly, the alleged episode.

[Kandy Muse]

The secret bookcase is actually the sound room. There is. It's a little, tiny 4x4 room. There's a guy sitting there with all of our mic packs and stuff. We go in there, we huddle in the room, we close the bookcase, then we step TV magic, y'all Then we step back outside to the backyard, and there's, like, a basketball court that they've turned into the. The little elimination room.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, work.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How is the flipping? How is the flipping?

[Kandy Muse]

It's so scary. It is so scary. Okay, you know what's so crazy? You can always tell when someone's gonna go home because the chairs are air pressured, so they have to feel the air pressure for the chair before they flip you. So anytime they would get ready to, like, say who's about to be eliminated, you would hear the air pressure filling up on this specific chair, and the chair would move a little bit, and you're like, oh, girl.

[Monet X Change]

Oh.

[Kandy Muse]

That's how you know that's what you're.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Gonna say, because there are people actually lifting it. So if it's a big bitch, they're all like, you see five guys walk out.

[Kandy Muse]

No, no. It's scary.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm gonna flip tonight.

[Kandy Muse]

You go right backwards.

[Monet X Change]

It's really scary Work, Kandy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was really mad before we move on, I was really mad that Omarosa didn't let them flip her.

[Monet X Change]

That was so annoying. So annoying.

[Kandy Muse]

Oh, she didn't?

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Omarosa. She refused to let them flip her. She was like, my arm's hurting.

[Monet X Change]

He was like, this is the same season where she said that New York had her or someone had hurt her arm.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, no, not New York. The one who won.

[Monet X Change]

Tanisha.

[Kandy Muse]

Tanisha.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Tanisha. Hit her with a tambourine.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kandy Muse]

I mean, no shade. I. I was going to walk out on the elimination, too, because I was like, I'm. Y'all not about to flip me. But then I was like, okay. I've actually tried to walk out of the Show 4. 4. 3 or 4 times.

[Monet X Change]

What? Why?

[Kandy Muse]

Girl, they. You don't even realize how crazy this cast was. Like, they were psychedelic. It. Like, they were just at it every single day. When Camila got eliminated, it was like they, like, dumbed down the fight because they like to make host of villains. Yes. Dramatic, but still fun and camp.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kandy Muse]

They dumbed down the fight.

[Monet X Change]

Feel, like, super angry. Like, super real. Like, for real crazy.

[Kandy Muse]

Yeah. And some of the. The fights were a little intense for me. And I remember when Camila got eliminated, I walked off, I called production, I said, listen, I just got off of a tour. Work the world. I was like, we just did arenas in Europe. I'm too good for the show, you psychotic bitches. I'm leaving. And then they were like, this security. But fans, you have to stay here. And I was like, girl, all right. I'M not a drinker. I don't drink. And I was drinking a lot of tequila there. So I was in my. In the feelings, and there were multiple times I was like, you know what? I'm over this. I'm leaving.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you telling me if I get a call for House of Villains, I shouldn't do it? Is that what you're saying?

[Kandy Muse]

No, no, you should. I tell this to be. The reason why I was upset was because all my friends were being eliminated. So I was like, girl, I'm here by myself. Like, I'm over this. Yeah, like, girl, what? What? I'm next. I know that at the end of that list when they're all gone, I'm.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Next, but Candy, why would they. Why would I ever get a call to be on House of Villains? How does that even make sense for me?

[Monet X Change]

Are you kidding me?

[Kandy Muse]

Well, now after the trainers, maybe they put you on the Villains, girl, before the Traders.

[Monet X Change]

Candy, you know this, this is a.

[Kandy Muse]

What is it Evil? Was it you told. You told Derek my feelings were to hurt you? If my feelings were to hurt you, you'll be crying right now, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You crying right now? Honey, do you think I'm a villain on Traders?

[Kandy Muse]

You know what? Yes. I'll tell the producers you're a villain. That one time we were in Copenhagen and you're by the Aquaria to. To the Madonna concert and me Vanjie and Mr. Saying that I did the hotel.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did not invite Aquaria. Aquaria asked to come. Aquarius just showed up. She. She. She did her big one, honey. She said I'm a show off queen.

[Monet X Change]

Mm.

[Kandy Muse]

I remember we were all texting you and she was real quiet.

[Monet X Change]

Anyways, how was. How was. How was your love life? I'm very curious. I always see you. Well, I always hear that you're dating people. I always hear that you have supremacy business. I'm like Candy making her way around these streets.

[Kandy Muse]

Honey, girl, I've been making my way. No, my love life. Okay, so last year I was seeing. Dating someone for a whole year. And then at the beginning, right at the very end of last year, did decided. We mutually decided that it was just. It wasn't going anywhere. She had other ideas of what he wanted in life and I have other. It just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We've narrowed it down to who it.

[Kandy Muse]

Be, you know, but it just wasn't. We weren't going anywhere. And it was. It was a great year. Like, you know, everything okay. As of recent, I've been dabbling with. With one person. Person. And yeah, I'M keeping things very low key, though. Very private. This time around, though, I feel like this person.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The trade that you did that. That. That drag look for that one time on Paris.

[Kandy Muse]

No, but that was good. That was good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That picture is so great. And all my girlfriends who. Who put on skag drag for trade, they always take a picture of it. They all. They always take a picture of themselves in their skag drag to show their friends, to gag everyone. Later, Kani texted me. We'll put it on the screen if you're comfortable with it.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah. Oh, Jay. Jay, you have mine. I sent Jay to. This was a guy from Montreal I hooked up with in the Pandemic. Bitch. It was the first little humor here. Blonde Bob, we got. I fucking put that shit in my head. I put a little mascara, a little ruby wool lipstick. Jay, put the picture on the screen. This is me in my skag drag.

[Kandy Muse]

When the man is hot and he's like, listen, just put the wig on, girl.

[Monet X Change]

Right? 100%. I'm like, Honey, Melissa is showing up, Honey.

[Kandy Muse]

See, I'm Tiffany Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't forget. Don't forget to send Jay the ones from earlier that you mentioned.

[Kandy Muse]

I just. I just sent you the photo. I'm Tiffany.

[Monet X Change]

Bob, what is your skag drag name? If you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't have one, but I guess it'd probably be Roberta. Is that. Is that. Is that a horrible Roberta? Is it a horrible if Roberta shows up?

[Monet X Change]

No, the girl. Nobody wants to a Roberta, please. Well, sorry, no shade.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All the Robertas out here. You know how many Robertas are listening to this podcast right now?

[Monet X Change]

No shade to the Robertas, but, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I don't know. That was crazy. There is a Roberta. There's a Roberta right now coming. Like, this is wild. I just got ate up my sitting here, drinking my coffee, getting gathered by Monet for no, unprovoked for no. And that's why you. You need to be on House of Villains.

[Monet X Change]

I'm trying to think. Yeah, I would do Trader. I would love to do Traders. I don't think I'm not a villain enough for House of Villains, but. Yeah, but I'm not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You are.

[Monet X Change]

But I would. I mean, they call me. I'll probably do it Traders. I would definitely do Survivor. I would do Big Brother. Although I don't really know how Big Brother works, but I would do Big Brother.

[Kandy Muse]

Yeah, I never watched Big Brother, but I'm always like, I want to do it. I've never watched a single episode. Don't know how the game Is don't know how you get eliminated, but I want to do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can already say right now the first showman is gonna be cast on is House of Villains because it's your true nature. Let's just start with that.

[Monet X Change]

Well, the thing with Big Brother, that one seems so convoluted. Cause you have the head of household, then there's a thing. There's, like, so many different elements to that one. Whereas Survivor and Traitors and House of Villains is pretty cut and dry. Big Brother is too much.

[Kandy Muse]

Big Brother gives me a white person's game.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not when there's a cookout. Not when there's a cookout.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah. The cookout alliance. The cookout alliance. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't have a cookout. You don't watch it. I don't watch Big Brother. I don't watch Big Brother either. But I know that there has never been a black winner. And one time they did a. The top four, whatever was all black people. They had alliance called the cookout. And you know, Danielle Reyes, who is my ride or die over on Traders, she was one of the girls who changed the way Big brothers played. Cause she was gathering everyone left and right. But what happened was, was they would send you all the way home. You would leave the Big Brother house. You go home, and then you'd watch TV and then yell. Was like, I'm playing everybody. I'm gathering all these people like fools. But she was winning. She was, like, winning. She had everyone's trust, but they all saw her being like, I'm gathering them. I'm eating them up. And then they got back and voted her. They were like, well, you're not gonna win now. So she should have won because she played the smartest game. But after that, they literally. They have. They. She literally changed the way they play the game. That's how iconic Danielle Reyer. That's why. That's why on that show, the bitter juries, that's. That's why Derek called her or whoever called her the best one to never win, because she really is that good.

[Monet X Change]

I feel like if they did a thing on Drag Race where they brought all. I mean, they did it not like All Stars, like regular season. They bring all the eliminated girls back, and we get to choose a winner. I think Drag Race girls, like, we're all too nice. We was. We. We would choose a person who did the best job. I don't think that happened. Huh?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That happened. All Stars 4.

[Monet X Change]

No, we didn't vote on All Stars.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which everyone was Trixie.

[Monet X Change]

That's what I'm saying. But that was like All Stars. I mean, like, regular season, like season 10 season. Season 13.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you admit drag racing, all sorts of different shows. You're not a Drag Race winner, Candy.

[Monet X Change]

Do you see these have to deal with? Candy, I'm just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm just listening to where. I just want to make sure I'm hearing what you're saying. Drag racing also has a different show.

[Monet X Change]

Candy, when you. When you move into a la girl.

[Kandy Muse]

I don't know. Here's the thing. I don't know how to drive.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, you're New York.

[Kandy Muse]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Doesn't drive. And Kim didn't drive for, like, years.

[Kandy Muse]

Every time I go to la, you know what? I'm always in my mind. I'm like, if they need me, I'll fly there. If the job is great and they need me, I will be there. I'm such a New Yorker through and through. I'm like, I don't know. But my lease is coming up and I am somehow something in the interest just so over New York a little bit. A little bit. A little bit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Candy, you know what? I did what? For a while, if. If it's something that people can swing. And I. I realize I'm. I. I have. I have privilege in life. But I rented a room, a very inexpensive room in. In Hollywood for a year before I moved here. I just rented a room. It was not expensive, was. It was like. It was very. It was very inexpensive. I got a really great deal with a friend, and obviously he got a great deal because I was hardly ever there. And then I got a great deal because when I was in town, I had a place to stay.

[Kandy Muse]

I'm putting in my pocket.

[Monet X Change]

I saw. I saw a Tsunami for. Oh, but Bob, we both saw for Christmas at Yes. Yeah, yeah, at the House of Avalon. She was like, yeah, girl, I think I moved to la. I was like, I want all the New York girls to come to la. Rob, better be in the back of your shot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that was Cameo, not Rob. Wow.

[Kandy Muse]

Us two New York girls have gone to la. Scarlet, Envy, Tsunami does want to move over there.

[Monet X Change]

Envy is here now, too. I didn't know that.

[Kandy Muse]

I'm like a senior. Girls, I named 1 you2.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, there was a thing a while back when I was living in New York City. They came like, every New York. Every girl leaves New York and goes to la. This is back before. It was like. This is like when I was on Drag Race, and I was like, what do you mean, every girl? And they were. And they were. They named, like two people. They were. I can't remember who it was back there was. It was. They were like Manila.

[Kandy Muse]

Oh, Manila. Bianca, you too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This was before. This was so long, Bianca. But this was like eight years ago. They were like Manila. And I was like, okay, I will say keep going.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I love LA clubs, whatever, they're good, but there is nothing like just bobbing around. Maybe it's because that's where I'm from and like, that's where I grew up in like my drag. But like going to like all like the bars in New York and like doing that vibe, that energy, I, I think there's LA will never compare to that. But that quality of life, quality of life.

[Kandy Muse]

I was the same. The quality of living, the weather. Like, sometimes I go, like to some old towns, I'm like, damn, bitch, what I pay for in New York? You get to big ass house, right?

[Monet X Change]

That was my. What I was paying for my two bedroom apartment in Harlem. I could get a whole fucking townhouse in la. I was like, this is crazy. I was like, why am I, why am I doing this? Money.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Had a townhouse in LA for the.

[Monet X Change]

Price of a two bedroom apartment in New York, which is crazy. New Yorker. New York will get you, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet said. Mon is flexing it. Monet said, first of all, ugly name. Mon said, you're broke. Roberta's a piece of name. People who won All Stars didn't really win Drag Race. You're on one today. You're really on one today. And I'm not, I'm not proud of you. This is why you deserve to be on the House of Traders. Monet Exchange for House of Traders.

[Kandy Muse]

House.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Of Villains, season three. Yeah, I think you'd be good on there, Mon. I. I would love it. I don't know if I have many more of these shows than me. I've only done. I mean, I've done a few real. Okay. I have done America's Got Talent. I have done Last Coming Standing, I have done RuPaul's Drag Race. I have done We're Here, which is not a competition show, but it's a, you know, unscripted reality television show. And, and now I've done House the Traders. I don't know how many more of these. I don't know. I don't know how, how New York has done like 30 of these things.

[Kandy Muse]

Well, you know, she. She's an engaged woman with two houses. One in la, one in New York, because she loves doing tv. I Love doing tv. I have said yes to every show that has come my way. I said, allegedly, I was supposed to be on We're Here, the reboot. So I had said yes to that. And then last minute, no, it's me. Wait, wait, wait.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You got us to do We're Here?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, when?

[Kandy Muse]

Allegedly, when it was the, the reboot with the new girls or not the reboot. The rebrand. I don't know. Girl. The new girl. The new cast. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You mean when I got fired?

[Kandy Muse]

Yeah. So I had met with, we, I did a bunch of meetings with producers, met with the HBO executive. I, I think that HBO executives were not feeling me and not meeting. I just felt like it, we weren't clicking. I was like. But it was, it was great. I ain't gonna say who I helped get on that show, but it was great. The girls look cute on there.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, they, they saw me too. I, I, I did, I didn't mean it with them too. I did it with the, with the EP and the creators. I did as well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's Your name? What? DP's name.

[Monet X Change]

With a L?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What are you, the Long island medium? I'm getting a vision. Water. There's water.

[Monet X Change]

The white dude with, like, the curly, the short curly hair.

[Kandy Muse]

They were nice, though. The producers are so sweet.

[Monet X Change]

They were very sweet.

[Kandy Muse]

Mon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Shut the fuck up, Monet. You produce at the premiere?

[Monet X Change]

No, no, no. I really did. I started with Steve and Johnny, and then it's the guy with the tall white guy with the white wife with the curly hair with the wife is crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There were no straight guys working money. There were literally no straight guys working over there.

[Monet X Change]

Peter Legecki, Legend Loeweki.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Peter Legreco is gay. Is he? No, I'm kidding. No, he's not gay.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Peter, if you're listening, I'm just Peter. I don't think Peter listens to the podcast. I think Peter will be safe from this, from this one time here. Are you watching the current season of Drag Race?

[Kandy Muse]

I am, I am. I think they are a bunch of young ass. My God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How old are you, Candy?

[Kandy Muse]

I just turned 30.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, 33, 32.

[Kandy Muse]

Hold on now. I just turned 30 in November. But they are young. I remember, like, the oldest one we had on my season, Tamisha. I think she was like 45 maybe. And I love when they're older queens on the show specifically, like, if you watch, like, older seasons, like 63. I don't know what else other old are on this show, but everyone here is like 21, 22, 23. I'm like, oh, my God. But you know what? It makes for chaos. And I, I, I hope the girls bring it. So far, the first two episodes are cute. I like them. I'm not a fan of when girls don't get sent home. And that's rich coming from someone that got saved after elimination.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You sure did. In your Beyonce dress. Okay, I don't want to cause drama.

[Kandy Muse]

Ooh.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But do you two want to have a conversation about the dress as long as the stage?

[Kandy Muse]

Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

The dress as long as the stage. Where is his dress?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. You pull up under that Christmas tree before.

[Kandy Muse]

You know what's so funny? I just came across this. Let me go to hello. Because Bala made Bikala designed it and made it. And it was, it was beige. It was for the, the, the trains Runway. And the thing about it is it was a 46 yard. It sounds crazy, but it really, it was a 46, it was a 46 yard train. And I granted. Ah, there it is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is a picture.

[Kandy Muse]

That's it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, that's a picture. I want a picture. You're telling me this man made a dress with a tray that was 46 yard and no one took a picture?

[Kandy Muse]

Here's the thing, though. When we, when I went in for the. Hold on, do I have a photo? I hear I have to because we tried it on. Hold on, hold on. Now I gotta go back all the way to 2000 when we filmed. Right? Okay, listen, so when. Hold on. There's my double, there's my alien. And this is the one. The. Okay, so we don't have the train on here, but I'm telling you it exists. And I wasn't, I was, I was gonna wear on the Runway, but it was too long. And also the dress, it was like a little like, if you want to like the, the little like cheapy little like dress stores, like a little like girl, like simple fabric. And so the train was so long that the dress would pull and it would look weird. So I was like, okay, I can't walk in this. And production was like, baby, that's too long. So I was, I told gambling, I said, can you help me cut the train? And she was like, they're gonna look like a regular boring ass dress. I was like, oh. So then what I did was I cut the back of the train for my double Runway that we did in the fashion show and put it on my finale dress and wore that. And then when they came to the very last day, they were like, hey, we're packing up. This dress took a whole bin. I said, mama, I ain't taking that shit. I left it on set and went about my way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So to be clear, the dress was destroyed, has been thrown in the ocean, and will never be seen beheaded.

[Monet X Change]

Whatever the fuck the fucking.

[Kandy Muse]

I really. I really. I want to know what they did with it. It was on. I left it on set.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, I mean, I will say this. That is a. That would be a very elaborate lie. That would be a very. That would be a Monet exchange level elaborate lie if it was a lie. So I eat candy now. Do you believe women?

[Monet X Change]

You know, I still have a question.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Candy is a woman. She's one of the most powerful women in rally television.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yes. Congratulations on that, by the way. That's so fucking sickening.

[Kandy Muse]

Thank you. That's the. I'm using that little achievement to bribe Viacom or. Sorry, not Viacom anymore. Allegedly Paramount to have me host the Pit Stop next season for all stress.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

10 as you should go grab Monet by the.

[Monet X Change]

By the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

By the hairs on her necky neck. Neck. And take that job.

[Kandy Muse]

Enough. We've seen you girls for, like, 18 seasons, okay?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have not done. I have not hosted the Pit Stop in a very long.

[Monet X Change]

Two years ago.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was it two years ago?

[Monet X Change]

Yes, girl. No, it was years ago.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was also six seasons ago. Can I ask him a question?

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it too much Drag Race?

[Monet X Change]

I mean, fans aren't getting. The fans are still watching it.

[Kandy Muse]

So I was gonna say for the viewers and the culture. No, for the work. Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now, we discussed. The girls can't get booked.

[Kandy Muse]

We discussed. Yeah, I saw that video. Now, not every girl can't get booked. Let's just clock that to you real quick. I'm still very booked and busy, but I have noticed, and I've been told word of mouth, that it has been very hard to get work in the recent days. Everything's expensive. Every drag show ticket is, like, $50.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kandy Muse]

You go to a bar, you have to spend a minimum of, like, $40. I get it. You know, so the clubs. Back in the day, you used to bring your assistant on the road with you, and the club will pay for it. You know, it ain't like that no more. And unfortunately for the new girls, I always tell the new girls, look, Drag Race in the golden ticket, it's amazing. I would do it a million times. I love it. Putting all your eggs in one basket. Just know that when you leave the show, you have to have more. What are you gonna do? More than just the clubs, because my ma. I ain't gonna pay the bills. Not anymore. Not the way it used to.

[Monet X Change]

You gotta diversify your portfolio. You cannot just be doing like you. In this day and age. You really have to just take that. Take the gift of dragatrics. And I talked about this. Like, girls would get on the show and they'd be. And again, I understand that. I have. I came back on All Stars. I won. Whatever. But when I did season 10 and I got eliminated, I was still grateful. I was like, you know what, bitch? I've been trying to audition for this for five years. I finally got it. I went home for tenth place. Sixth. Whatever. Sixth place, whatever. Like, I was happy with the lot I had, right? But people get on the show, they be so mad. I can't believe I'm on that fucking show. RuPaul didn't braid my hair. I didn't get his number. Like, why the fuck did I do this shit? I'm like, girl, to me, that's so crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

RuPaul didn't braid your hair.

[Monet X Change]

No, you didn't. Not me. Monique got it, though. Monique's hair was braided.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If George just told me RuPaul braided her hair, I would believe it.

[Kandy Muse]

It's always so crazy to me when girls get off the show and, like, hate the show because I had a good old time. Me and Paul like this, huh? I live for. Listen, that woman in my eyes can do no wrong.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you still mad at the girls on Tick Tock Live asking for galaxies.

[Kandy Muse]

Okay, you know what the tea is? It's so funny because that I posted a video, and that video was even about the drag race, girl. It was about this one creator named Ash Trevino.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Know who I've been like, oh, Astrovino isn't actually in drama right now.

[Kandy Muse]

Yeah. She's like. She's always a drama, and she's always on Tick Tock live begging. She's like, girls, give me a Galaxy. A Galaxy. And I'm like, okay. You are sitting here begging, which, listen, if people are gonna send you money, if they're gonna send you money, girl, keep begging. Make the coin. Because last night, me and Mr. Put on tick Tock, and we invited Gia in, and Gia does this thing where they do battling on Tick Tock. I don't know. And someone sent me a Galaxy and lion, and I made, like, $200. I was like, oh, girl. Just from this.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yo, it's saying Galaxy. I was like, why? Why do people want Galaxy phones? Like, to what to reach Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're not that old, Monet. You're not. You're not that out of touch. Monet. I don't believe that you're out of that touch.

[Monet X Change]

I have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're not that out of touch.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know what galaxies. I thought. I thought people were saying, like, send me galaxies.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet, you know who Dorinda is. And you're not that out of touch. Okay, Dorinda.

[Monet X Change]

My fucking dick to your chin. Anyway. Wait, Candy. Wait till y'all wait. Wait, there is all this money.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Money's answering the way. Go ahead, Jacob. Give me money.

[Monet X Change]

All this money from doing the TikTok live, the battling and the thing.

[Kandy Muse]

I was there, I was clueless, and they gave me. So now the people that are on there all the time, the queens are on there all the time. Gia told me, she said, girl, I haven't done in the last three rounds. You see me on TikTok live for a reason. I said, oh, well, you're sending me the money, then give it. So my thing, my video wasn't about any queens, but if, you know, I would say, if the bullet influenza don't dodge it, the bullet might hit you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But that's so Southern. You sound like a Southerner with that. Now, if the bullet ain't for you, don't dodge it, honey.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, jk, wait. What's the. What's the quiz?

[Kandy Muse]

Yes, There is a RuPaul's Drag Race alumni live on TikTok right now, this very moment. Can you guess who it is?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, the bitch.

[Kandy Muse]

Foxy lady, baby, don't fox. Malaysia, baby, don't fox. Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. 100. 100.

[Kandy Muse]

Listen, she. I know she's on there all the time, so she must be making bank.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, she's always on there. Every time I, like, open my TikTok, I always scroll into her live at some point.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know what?

[Kandy Muse]

I literally give. Because some girls do music, some girls do tick tock videos like Plastique, some girls do brand deals. She found her niche. And you know what? In a world where the girls are not getting booked all the time, if that works for you, give it 100.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, side note, much as I love her silky nugget, Megan Knox loves to fight on the Internet. Like, she loves to fight one time. So, you know, making knock got mad. I wasn't even involved in it. But someone, she was just like, why y'all love the winners? Don't y'all know me and Bob do the same gigs?

[Kandy Muse]

And I was like, girl you didn't know. She was also there with Madonna.

[Monet X Change]

The same.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The same.

[Kandy Muse]

The same.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was like when me. When me and Mon were in the argument with that one. Well, I was in Monet was an argument. I was in argument. That one girl who kept being like Monet was nice. And Bob acted like she didn't know who I was. Like, I didn't know you. She like, we worked at the same clubs. We didn't. I can't remember that girl, but she.

[Monet X Change]

Was the one I remember either Met.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You in the basement at therapy. And I. And we. Her and I work. I was like, baby, you there was. You and I were not working the same club. She competed.

[Kandy Muse]

Jokes on you therapist didn't even. I have a basement.

[Monet X Change]

Y'All. This has been an episode with the very charming, effervescent, fierce Kandy muse. Kandi is always. I'm so happy we had you on the pod. This was such a fun episode.

[Kandy Muse]

Yeah, I literally.

[Monet X Change]

I literally.

[Kandy Muse]

I am obsessed with this podcast. Me and my friends watch it all the time. You two are a hoot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And listen, stick around for a little bit of a. We have a fun game. We want to play with Kandy over on the Patreon. So we have a fun little game. If I haven't even approved this with Candy yet. So it's. That's. Maybe it'll be there. Allegedly. We're on page right now.

[Monet X Change]

Allegedly. It's going to happen.