The One About Libraries

Summary

Podcast Summary: Sibling Rivalry — "The One About Libraries"

Date: October 22, 2025
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob the Drag Queen
Guest: Kim Chi

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Episode Overview

In this lively and laugh-filled episode, Monét X Change and Bob the Drag Queen are joined by the ever-charming Kim Chi (RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 8 finalist) to chat about libraries, public transit, memorable gigs, the joy and complications of travel, library advocacy, food, and behind-the-scenes drag touring stories. The discussion winds through nostalgia about public libraries, the meaning of community resources, driving adventures in LA, Kim Chi’s new books, and hilarious tales from the road. True to their signature style, the trio mixes real-life insight with drag wit and abundant laughter.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Catching Up and Drag Queen Memories

[02:30–05:06]

• Warm welcome to Kim Chi, who reminisces about shared gigs and formative years in drag.
• Discussion of quirky dressing room moments — like Chanel Hunter's impromptu jewelry sales at Necto in Michigan.
  • Kim Chi: “She’d be like, hey, everybody, close the door. Then she’d open up the briefcase and be like, shop my…” [03:08]
• Bonds formed on the road and at clubs (Roscoe’s in Chicago, Machine, Necto, etc.)

2. Life in Chicago vs. LA: Biking, Driving, and Public Transit

[05:38–09:16]

• Kim expresses nostalgia for Chicago’s bike and transit-friendly setup compared to LA’s car-dependency.
  • Kim Chi: “I’m nostalgic about Chicago… I miss the city, I miss the food, I miss the culture. I miss you could bike everywhere.” [05:40]
• Bob and Monét discuss LA’s reckless driving culture, speeding, and new phone “no touch” law.
  • Bob: “You cannot touch your phone. It has to be mounted and you can only touch it at a red light.” [08:25]
  • Kim Chi: “Does anyone follow the law anymore?” [08:38]
• Car accident stories and learning to drive late in life; waiting for Ubers 40–50 min during the pandemic forced Kim to finally learn.

3. Drag Queens on the Road: Airport Pickups and Travel Pet Peeves

[09:14–16:51]

• Who’s a better driver? Both Bob and Monét receive Kim’s stamp of approval, but Bob is deemed more cautious.
  • Kim Chi: “You guys are both really good drivers.” [13:41]
  • Monét: “Bob is a way more cautious driver than me, though.” [13:53]
• Airport pickup etiquette (picking someone up at LAX = true love), Uber Black price hikes, and nightmare “gypsy cab” stories.
  • Kim Chi: “They quoted me $400 to Brooklyn… That’s crazy.” [16:20]

4. Big-City Flat-Rate Cabs, Cost of Living, and Chicago Life

[20:19–22:10]

• Stories about getting overcharged by cab drivers in NYC and lamenting how much more affordable Chicago is.
  • Kim Chi: “If you’re an up-and-coming artist, Chicago is probably the best city to live in… but living costs is so much slower, easier to get around.” [21:04]
• Chicago beaches explained (yes, they’re real, but man-made sand and themed: dog beach, gay beach, etc.)

5. Dog Parenting and Drag Queen Backstories

[22:29–24:40]

• Kim raves about her dog Butter (well-behaved, crate-trained, “best dog in the world”), hired a professional trainer.
• The trio discusses phone backgrounds: pets, partners, or League of Legends characters; whether it’s self-love or narcissism for a drag queen to set their own photo as wallpaper.

6. Kim Chi’s Books and the Story of Donatella Hamachi: Library Avengers

[24:54–29:43]

• Kim reveals her two new books: a YA novel, Donatella Hamachi and the Library Avengers, and a cookbook, Kimchi Eats the World.
• The “Library Avengers” book was inspired by Kim’s viral tweet about public library defunding and love for libraries.
  • Kim Chi: “People… don’t care about the library.”
  • Kim Chi: “The villain in the book is actually inspired by Bob Blob, the Draxing — this evil villain that wants to tear down the library to build a mall.” [26:49]
  • Bob: “It was a bit, it was not a bit to abolish libraries. I was joking.” [26:44]
• Both Bob and Kim share childhood memories of libraries — checking out books, pirating CDs, earning free bagels for reading.

7. Libraries as Community Resources and Library Nostalgia

[28:27–29:48]

• Kim was deeply engaged in her library as a kid: “I was in the young adult advisory board… organized the library’s anime festival.”
• Libraries: Not just about books, but ESL resources, job application help, and more.

8. Culinary Chat: Food, Rice Wars, and Kimchi Eats the World

[35:25–44:01]

• Kim’s new cookbook is a love letter to her favorite global dishes reimagined at home during the pandemic, with every recipe tied to a story.
  • Kim Chi: “It’s basically like a love letter. I’m not trying to colonize any dishes… introducing everyone to some of my favorite global cuisine.” [35:57]
• Kim’s “last meal” would be crispy spam, three sunny-side eggs, fresh rice, and kimchi.
  • Kim Chi: “Very simple, but it’s my ultimate comfort food.” [37:12]
• The trio riff on “rice wars” (do you wash it? how?), pre-cooked rice hacks, and the finer points of Korean and Caribbean comfort foods.
• Homemade protein-rich ranch recipes, the beauty of blue cheese vs ranch, and a mini-debate on wing preferences.
  • Bob: “Ranch belongs for dipping.” [49:07]
  • Kim Chi: “Blue cheese is where it’s at for me.” [49:02]

9. Behind the Scenes: Drag Tours and Hilariously Bad Shows

[53:32–63:55]

• Kim is unofficially crowned queen of “Work the World” tours — “I’ve done [it] since day one. I’ve witnessed every single down. I’ve witnessed every drama.” [53:39]
• Stories of drag queens refusing to get dressed early, questionable professionalism, drag bus drama (Shangela incident), and wig queens gaming the system.
• Legendary Valentina stories: private meet and greets, surprise numbers, meet-and-greet mayhem, fans breaking into dressing rooms, and “Baby, we’re all Madrid!” drama.
  • Kim Chi: “Backstage… was the most intense. Everyone was screaming at Valentina for all the shenanigans. Then the fans broke into the dressing room.” [62:43]

10. Book Launch & Movie Option

[64:06–64:36]

• Both books release in October 2025; Kim invites pre-orders, mentions that a streaming service has already optioned “Donatella Hamachi” film rights.
  • Kim Chi: “Even if it’s early, please pre-order because it helps us, you know, small authors a lot.” [64:06]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the driving law absurdity:
  Kim Chi: “Does anyone follow the law anymore?” [08:38]

• On LA speeders and driving culture:
  Kim Chi: “So many people on the highway that do not put the blinkers on when they suddenly change lanes. That is so crazy.” [09:33]

• On the library villain based on Bob:
  Kim Chi: “The villain in the book is actually inspired by Bob Blob, the Draxing — this evil villain that wants to tear down the library to build a mall.” [26:49]

• On the nostalgia of public libraries:
  Kim Chi: “If you read five books, you get a voucher for like a bagel and cream cheese from a bagel shop next door. So I would read so many books, and that’s how I filled myself.” [28:53]

• About the Work the World drama:
  Bob the Drag Queen: “So Shangela was like, baby, I’m taking this bus. And then he was like, well, he said, well, bitch… I don’t know how the you gonna get this bus there if you don’t know how to drive!” [55:07]

• On book publishing as a drag queen:
  Kim Chi: “…two different book deals at two different times… it just ended up coming at the same time… people are like, what kind of book did you release? I’m like, well, there’s two books!” [24:58]

• On food and comfort:
  Kim Chi: “My last meal? Fresh cooked rice, spam, grilled crispy, three sunny side eggs and a bowl of kimchi. Very simple, but it’s like my ultimate comfort food.” [37:04]

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Key Timestamps

• 02:30 — Kim Chi joins, gig/jewelry stories
• 05:38 — Chicago nostalgia; biking & public transit
• 08:25 — New LA “no touch” law explained
• 13:41 — Who’s a better driver?
• 16:06 — Kim’s $400 gypsy cab story
• 21:04 — Advocating Chicago for new artists
• 22:29 — Kim’s perfect dog Butter
• 24:54 — Kim’s two books, writing process
• 26:49 — Bob inspired the villain in Kim’s library novel
• 28:27 — Libraries + community resources
• 35:25 — Kimchi Eats the World and food culture talk
• 37:12 — Kim’s “last meal”
• 49:07 — Ranch vs blue cheese debate
• 53:32 — Work the World tour stories
• 62:43 — The legendary Valentina meet and greet
• 64:06 — Kim Chi’s book launch / movie rights

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Conclusion

This episode is a rollercoaster of shared memories, irreverent humor, and real love for libraries and community spaces. Bob and Monét’s signature rapport blends perfectly with Kim Chi’s dry wit and candor, offering both belly laughs and genuine advocacy — for public libraries, Chicago, and a good wing dipped in ranch. The dynamic veers from insightful (library importance) to zany (origami challenges, backstage drag politics), giving listeners an entertaining, personal, and surprisingly moving case for why libraries — and queens — matter.

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Books Mentioned:

• Donatella Hamachi and the Library Avengers (Kim Chi) — YA novel about rising up to save beloved libraries.
• Kimchi Eats the World (Kim Chi) — Cookbook inspired by global travel and pandemic creativity.

Final Thought:
Support your local libraries and pre-order Kim Chi’s books — or just take a friend to the airport to show you really care.

Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[Monet X Change]

And I'm Monet X Change.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this is simply rivalry.

[Monet X Change]

On this week's episode, Bob the Dragon apologizes for his very hurtful and insane comments of our libraries.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We invite Kim Chi to the podcast.

[Kim Chi]

We find out what made Monet say this.

[Monet X Change]

I wonder why they decided to do that. We find out what made Bomb say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is this what the guys say? And we find out what made Kim say this.

[Kim Chi]

Does anyone follow the law anymore?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What a treat.

[Monet X Change]

A trick.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And an enigma.

[Monet X Change]

And a treasure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And a treasure. We are joined by one of my.

[Monet X Change]

Favorite drag queens of all time, Donatella Hamachi.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone, we have kimchi on the pod today.

[Kim Chi]

Thank you for having me. Which camera do I look at?

[Monet X Change]

Whichever one you want.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All of them. This is your main one, but yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Hello, Kim. How are you?

[Kim Chi]

I'm good. Thank you for having me in this beautiful, humble podcast.

[Monet X Change]

Do you love our new set? Do you want to give us some confidence about how fierce our set is?

[Kim Chi]

Honestly, the studio is very impressive. Last time I came here to play games with Bob and I'm like, wow, Bob's made it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And it only took 10 years after we met, which is crazy because you and I filmed Drag race over. Over 10 years ago, Doug, which feels insane.

[Kim Chi]

And, you know, we went through something traumatic together. But then my favorite part was doing a lot of questionable gigs together after.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Kim Chi]

And all the stories that come from it. Monet, you too?

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, some of the gigs we. Because my memory kind of lapses because sometimes we weren't doing gigs together, but we did the same gigs. And I think one of my favorite ones I remember calling him and asking about was that gig. Was it. What was that place outside of, like, boss? It's called. I think it was called Machine.

[Kim Chi]

What City?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was that one gig where you go and then one of the queens sells you jewelry.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. In Michigan.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In Michigan, yeah.

[Kim Chi]

Yes, yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not Lansing.

[Kim Chi]

Nectar. Necto. Necto. Chanel Hunter.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you go. Chanel Will, basically, it was like a drug deal.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. Upstairs. Upstairs in the thing.

[Kim Chi]

But when I tell you that jewelry, it is some of the best. A long time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And innovative stuff that no one else is. Like, these weird finger things she was doing.

[Kim Chi]

And the stones don't even fall out.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, they're good.

[Kim Chi]

And they're like, $60.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I saw some of my. Some of my nectar.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She would walk in. It's not nectar.

[Monet X Change]

I know. I call.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She would, like, come to the dressing room, and she would, like. She'd be like, hey, everybody, close the door. Then she open up the briefcase and be like, shop my. Like, light.

[Kim Chi]

It feels like light in, like, every color. And they're all, like, big, chunky.

[Monet X Change]

I think we worked the same night. Like, she didn't. She didn't like you saying, like, she came after the show to see.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, she was a queen on the show.

[Kim Chi]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was a queen on the show. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Next was fun.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sometime. I say it feels like. I know me and Kim didn't do that gig together, but we bonded over that jewelry. And. But then we. I mean, we. We all have. We done. We never did Roscoe's together.

[Kim Chi]

We. No. The one time where Valentina went home.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Were we there together?

[Kim Chi]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That. And I was wearing that yellow dress, and I was like. And that was gaggy.

[Monet X Change]

That yellow dress. You have, like, 49 yellow dress.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The one from Sibling Riverly. Oh, God.

[Kim Chi]

And Bob was, like, up on his feet just, like, standing up. Up and down. And you know me, like, when I watch things, like, I'm not a very reactive person. I'm just, like, sitting There, like, soaking it in, and then I'll say things, you know? So then next to, like, Willem and Bob, I just felt like I was like, should I start screaming or something?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I just. Yeah, I get very big. Oh, my God.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. Oh, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's that yellow dress. Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

Yes. Iconic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

I'm about to say there's no way, because Cinnamon Riverly hadn't happened. So you couldn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I realized it was a different yellow dress. I was thinking about when you and I went back, I was wearing the Riverly dress.

[Monet X Change]

Oh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And there it goes. Redacted.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, my God. Look at Vellum shoes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, God.

[Monet X Change]

What is she.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's wearing those flop flip flops. Flip flop. No, it's a bunch of flip flops glued together. And then the top layer, you know, you take a bunch of thong flip flops, and you just take all the. The foam off.

[Kim Chi]

Iconic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So wild.

[Monet X Change]

Do you miss Chicago?

[Kim Chi]

Every day.

[Monet X Change]

Really?

[Kim Chi]

Every day? Yeah. But, I mean, it was like, a moment in time. Yeah. I'm nostalgic about it. I don't think I would go back and live there again, but I missed the city. I missed the food. I missed the culture. I missed you could bike everywhere. I missed the public transit.

[Monet X Change]

That is something. I wish la. I wish LA was more biker, like, walking friendly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you're driving now?

[Kim Chi]

Oh, yeah. I've been driving.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you Ubered for a while.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

You and you. Naomi. Yo. When I first moved to la, I could not believe that y' all would Uber Uber everywhere. That is crazy.

[Kim Chi]

I had gotten used to it. I always told myself, like, I'm not gonna learn how to drive. Like, at this point, I'm gonna make it my personality. And then pandemic hit, and then I need to go to grocery store, and I called an uber. It was 40 minutes.

[Monet X Change]

Damn.

[Kim Chi]

And then after I got to the grocery store, while holding all my bags of grocery, I called in the car, and it was 50 minutes. And I'm like, no, I'm in this, like, hot parking lot with all my.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Groceries for 15 minutes waiting for you.

[Monet X Change]

No, I was looking at.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, so Kim called me. Cause Kim didn't drive. And then Kim was like, I need you to teach me how to drive. We ended up not working out. I actually really wanted to teach Kim how to drive, but am I allowed to say this?

[Kim Chi]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So the other day. Not the other day, like, a couple.

[Monet X Change]

Months ago, Naomi Smalls. Oh, God. What? Naomi Smalls is watching together.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then we're, like, leaving, and Naomi has this Scrape. That is like, oh, really?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This scrape. That is like, from her front door all the way to the tail light. Oh, God. I was like, girl, what happened? Kim, give scraped. I was like, how is this great? Was Cam just backing up and scre. What happened?

[Kim Chi]

So we were at a photo shoot together, and I parked my car, and Naomi parked her car at an angle because the parking lot was in one of those, like, mountain, like, small, like, thing. So then Naomi's like, do you want me to pull my car? And I was like, no, I think I'll just squeeze it out.

[Monet X Change]

You squeezed it.

[Kim Chi]

And then I was backing up and her car just came out of nowhere. And the next thing you know, I hear and I'm like, wait, that can't be it. So I just went back further and I heard and I'm like, oh, that didn't sound right. But her car shouldn't have came out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Of nowhere, you know? But also, Naomi's also not a good driver either.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, you said. I remember you told me when y' all were all done with Drag Race, and then you were here driving with Naomi and Kim, and Naomi would be driving, texting on the side.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She would text and she would drive with her knees. She would literally be doing, like, this.

[Monet X Change]

Super fair. I do that sometimes, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's insane. There's a law. No touch.

[Monet X Change]

I'm sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm sure there's a no touch. Not just texting. You are not allowed to touch your phone unless you're at a red light in la. This is a brand new law. It's called the no touch law. You cannot touch your phone. It has to be. First of all, it has to be mounted.

[Monet X Change]

Really? Your phone has to be mounted?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It has to be mounted and you can only touch it at a red light.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is this.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, when did this law drop?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I wanna say maybe two months ago. Oh, wow. Like, it's the new Taylor Swift album. When did this drop? Literally, they dropping new.

[Kim Chi]

They dropping a new law. Does anyone law anymore?

[Monet X Change]

I know. I will say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

June. June 23rd of 2025.

[Monet X Change]

I will say this since in New York City, I used to get red light tickets, like passing a red light or texting on the phone. In la, everyone is texting and on the phone. Like, I don't really. Cause there's CarPlay. But I oftentimes when driving, I see something like this and I don't. I think it's like a thing. In la, people just are always talking on the phone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I. I use the.

[Monet X Change]

I know, but I just. I see this a lot also. People speed in la. People just drive fast in la.

[Kim Chi]

And it's not. I don't trust anybod. La.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

I'm always, like, driving as if someone's just gonna, like, pull out in front of me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Literally. Because people just speed here.

[Kim Chi]

Do you.

[Monet X Change]

Do you find that people speed here?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I mean, the answer is yes. I do not drive fast. I drive the speed limit.

[Kim Chi]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or either 5 above it or 5 below it. I am not going.

[Kim Chi]

There's no way. I need to get there, like, so fast that I need to be rushing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, me either.

[Kim Chi]

So many people on the highway that do not put the blinkers on when they suddenly change lanes. That is so crazy.

[Monet X Change]

That is annoying. I do not do that. You are. First of all, you've never even been back.

[Kim Chi]

I've been in car. Monet driving it. I've always felt very safe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet's a good driver, but she doesn't always use the blinker, though. Yes, I do use my blinker, first of all. I use blinkers in the parking lot.

[Monet X Change]

I use blinkers everywhere.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I be in my own garage. Blink, blink, blink, blink. I don't want nobody surprised.

[Kim Chi]

Or to me, it's just, like, muscle memory. If I'm, like, turning my hand automatically, just like.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's such a lame thing. But, you know, when you. When you. There's two blinker settings, there's the. All the way on, and there's, like, the.

[Monet X Change]

You tap it and it does it for.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I never. I always forget to do the tap. And I always feel bad about, like.

[Monet X Change]

Having your blinker on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

My favorite memory of you driving was we went to the premiere of the Trixie Motel.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

And then afterwards, like, we were driving back that night for some reason, and I was like, all right, I gotta stay awake and keep Bob company. And I just, of course, passed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, no, you did not stay awake. I've driven Kim sleeping several times.

[Kim Chi]

And then I woke up to Bob just driving, singing at a full, like, out loud to, like, no music. And I'm like, there was no music for it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, there's no music.

[Kim Chi]

You're just, like, singing out loud, like, alone. And I'm like, is Bob trying to, like, keep himself awake? Or, like, does this have. Normally drive, like, what's happening?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, the music wasn't playing. There was no music.

[Kim Chi]

And you're just singing, like, on your own.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, so Kim falls asleep a lot. Kim's very sleepy.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And so Kim came to see me. Like, Irvine or you went to Oxnard? Oxnard. So. So Kim. So Kim drove out to Oxnard to see me do some standup.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was me and Jared Goldstein. And then Kennedy was there. And then I think I drove Kennedy. And then Kim was like, I cannot stand.

[Kim Chi]

No, I picked you up and I drove you there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what it was.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that's what it was. That's what it was. Kim picked me up and drove me there. And then Kim was like, I cannot stay awake. I need someone. So I think that Kennedy drove you back. And then I drove Kennedy's car. So Kennedy was like, I have to drive. I have to drive Kimchi home. So Kennedy drove Kim home. Kim slept the whole way. And then I drove Kennedy's Subaru back to Subaru. And then we did a.

[Monet X Change]

And then we did a little.

[Kim Chi]

A little.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A little car swap.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. I used to have, like, sleep apnea, so I would, like, get sleepy, but it went away.

[Monet X Change]

It's all going away now.

[Kim Chi]

After losing weight, you have to.

[Monet X Change]

Sleep apnea went away, which is changing work. Also, Kim, you are so flexible. I can only sit crisscross applesauce for maybe five minutes, and then my legs fall asleep.

[Kim Chi]

You know, so many people tell me that I have, like, really open hips, which I never realized.

[Monet X Change]

Really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is this what the guys say?

[Kim Chi]

You know, everyone who does, like, yoga or stretching, they're like, your hips are so, like, flexible. I'm like, is it.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can.

[Monet X Change]

Can you. Can you sit Christmas episodes for a long time?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not that long. No.

[Kim Chi]

No.

[Monet X Change]

I can do maybe five minutes. Maybe five.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So have you tried to do a split?

[Kim Chi]

You know, I actually can do the split.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh.

[Kim Chi]

I just don't do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I want to say. Cause if you're doing this, I feel like you can do a split.

[Kim Chi]

I can. I just don't do it.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, can you do. Can you do front to back and, like, a side? Like a.

[Kim Chi]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You have to bust this out one time. Yes, one time. It works hotter and hotter. We'll shut it down.

[Monet X Change]

No, because.

[Kim Chi]

I don't know. I think. Because we would always, like, make fun of, like, big girls that do the splits. You know, they're like.

[Monet X Change]

You know, the splats.

[Kim Chi]

And I was just like, all right, I'm never going to be that girl, like, the big girl doing the splits at the club.

[Monet X Change]

But now you're no longer the big girl.

[Kim Chi]

I know, but now I don't want to do it out of protest.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would say big girls don't do the splits. Big girls do the splats. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Every time. Ms. Thing would do it. It. Tammy spanks well. Yes, but Ms. Recently baptized for five. Baptized.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Eureka.

[Monet X Change]

Eureka. What she can do with this with her knee or her elbow?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honestly, it's kind. When Eureka hits that split and then leans over, puts that fist on her chin. Knee on the elbow. On the knee. That is. That is kind. You cannot argue. That's not fucking kind. And then the Swiffer, when they start bopping it around the stage.

[Monet X Change]

The Swiffer. I love you naming these the Swiffer.

[Kim Chi]

What's the Swiffer?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like when, you know when they hit the splits and they start scooting around. They scoot and they clean. They squeegee.

[Kim Chi]

I call it a humping the floor.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Humping the floor. It's a brilliant, iconic movie.

[Monet X Change]

So, Kevin, since you've seen both of us drive, who would you say is a better driver?

[Kim Chi]

You're both. I know the whole point of the podcast is you guys fighting, but you guys are both really good drivers.

[Monet X Change]

No, it's not true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We are both good drivers. I mean, I don't really get a lot of complaints about my driver.

[Kim Chi]

I have to give credit where it's due. You guys are both great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you.

[Monet X Change]

I would say Bob is a way more cautious driver than me, though. Like, Bob, you drive pretty cautiously.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I feel like you've driven with me driving more than I with you driving. Except back in the day. I mean, now that we're now la, you're. I feel like you're in my car more than I'm in your car.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I guess.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I. But I've. I've never. Honestly, I have literally never felt unsafe with Monet driving, ever. Monet is a really good driver. Monet used to be my personal chauffeur in New York City. You're not allowed to have a car in New York City.

[Kim Chi]

Mon also picked me up from the airport. And when someone picked you up from the airport in a big, like city like New York or like Los Angeles, like, that's real love.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I picked up off from the airport in la, but he just conveniently forgot that I did it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When did you do this?

[Monet X Change]

I picked you up twice.

[Kim Chi]

I remember.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, who was it? Me, from a gig. Was I by myself? You were with Kennedy.

[Monet X Change]

You were by yourself. There's no one else. I don't remember why, but I picked you up twice from the airport here. I don't remember why.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Twice.

[Monet X Change]

Twice.

[Kim Chi]

Okay. Picking on Someone from an lax, that is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love picking people from the airport. It's one of my favorites. You like what I love and I've already picked my L. But she ref. She turned me down. That is true. I've offered to pick up from the airport several times.

[Monet X Change]

It also just coordinating it. Like, you have to like text and.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Be like, I'm at pole, blah, blah, blah.

[Monet X Change]

I'd rather just call my car. I will say this though. Sometimes I get like, depending on like, I came back from somewhere. I had like. And Ty wasn't coming back with me, so I had like four bags. Why do I have so many bags anyway?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Drag bitch.

[Monet X Change]

No, I only travel with 2.

[Kim Chi]

4.

[Monet X Change]

I must have been. I don't remember why I would have had four bags anyway. So normally when I get off at Delta, I'm like, it's just easier to walk to Uberland as opposed to waiting for the shuttle. Da da da. But with four bags, I'm like, I don't wanna walk with it. I don't go on the shuttle with it. So I just call a. A black. Because that's the only way you get picked up at the curbside.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Uber black now it's like when.

[Monet X Change]

You pick it up from curbside, it's like almost $200.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

So I have people, Ubers that have called before to give me their cars, like black cars. And I just. Now, before I get there, they charge you 125 and they pick you up and drop you off at home and you just. You just text them. I can give you the number.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think one day I want to try to take one of those cars they offer you from jfk. Oh, the people, the random people you need to ride. I've never. I've never.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know.

[Kim Chi]

I've taken one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And how was your experience?

[Kim Chi]

Oh, not good. They like really overcharged me.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, wait, what do you mean? Like, just the random guys?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I was like, you want to ride?

[Monet X Change]

No, but. But you got to get your price before you get in the car, though. That's.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, I didn't even know that. I just like, I hopped in thinking they were like a regular cab, but they weren't. They were like a private cab.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. And they like quoted me $400.

[Monet X Change]

You should have said no to Manhattan.

[Kim Chi]

No to Brooklyn.

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Well, here's the thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not in Brooklyn. It's in Queens. Yeah, but it's like. It's like, it's right by Brooklyn.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I will say this. So when I used to work in New York City at the Yale Club in New York City, I was, I was, I was at work and this woman comes in and she, she's like, oh my God. She was from, I don't know, Michigan. Whatever, Sorry. No, I know Kim's from Michigan. She was from somewhere in the Midwest. She's like, well, you know, let's take a break. I'll tell you about this story when we come back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

Okay, let me just be honest for a second. I think I can be real with y'. All. I trust y'.

[Kim Chi]

All.

[Monet X Change]

And let's just be real. Managing money can feel like you playing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Whack a mole, right?

[Monet X Change]

Like I've dealt with the overdraft fees, the surprise maintenance fees don't get me Maintenance for who is maintain months of spiral and those times when the bill just hit before your paycheck due, it ain't fun.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not.

[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ay.

[Monet X Change]

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[Monet X Change]

So I'm at the E mail club. This woman comes, she's like, hey, like, getting from JFK is so expensive here. We're like, well, you know, there's a cause. Y' all know in New York City there's a thing where if you go to jfk, there's a fixed price.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The flat rate.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it's supposed to be a flat rate. And if she said, what is a flat rate? You have to let them know that they should have offered you that. She was like, yeah, well, it was $300. And I. And I. And then she tipped them on top of that. I was like, that is too nice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, the flat rate. I feel like I don't hear much about the flat rate anymore. But the flat rate is great if you live in Manhattan, it's great if you live in the Bronx, it's great if you live in Staten Island. If you live in Queens, it's the same price.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, the same.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So the flat rate, what you pay to go to. From Jamaica, Queens to jfk, which is. Or for the. Is the same price you'll pay if you go to Staten island, which is absolutely insane.

[Monet X Change]

I wasn't doing about Chicago is how cheap it is. Oh, my God, it's so much cheaper.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Than Chicago is cheap.

[Kim Chi]

I always tell everyone, like, if you're an up and coming artist, Chicago is probably the best city to live in because you have access to all those things that's made your city gets. But living cost is so much slower, easier to get around.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, like Uber's there. I was there recently. Ubers are like literally a quarter of the price of any Ubers in la. I'm like, la and New York, the Ubers are getting wild. The Swixman's in there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cam, is the Chicago beach a real beach beach?

[Kim Chi]

Yes and no. They're lake beaches.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you.

[Kim Chi]

But you're not gonna get swept away and you're not gonna get, like, stung by like a jellyfish. A jellyfish? Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, if you. In Coney island, you'll step on a hypodermic needle.

[Kim Chi]

I mean, that could also happen in Chicago beaches too.

[Monet X Change]

But what's at the bottom is. So when you get in the water, is the bottom. No. Is it sand or is it mud? Because in the lake, the bottom is mud. It's not sand.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sand.

[Monet X Change]

So that's what shirts me out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think Kim's been to the bottom of the lake.

[Monet X Change]

No, when you. No, when you. I'm saying at the Chicago beach, that's.

[Kim Chi]

The part where, like people will be like, stepping in on would be sand.

[Monet X Change]

Sand. Like, so when you like walk into water, it's sand on there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. It's probably man made, though.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If they're sand, it's more than likely man made.

[Kim Chi]

I believe, like, Chicago has like over like 30 different beaches, like along lakeshore.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, wow.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. The city of beaches.

[Kim Chi]

And then each of them are like different themed. There's like a dog beast. There's a gay beach.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's the gay dog beach now.

[Monet X Change]

Y' all both not gay dog owners. I don't know if.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cody, you have a dog. Yeah, kind of low key. My partner has a dog and Cody's. Yeah, his name is Cody. You'll meet him.

[Kim Chi]

He's okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Tao's walking him right now. But you'll. You'll meet. Everyone loves Cody. Cody's is lovely. And your dog is obviously great. Everyone loves your dog. Everyone loves your dog.

[Kim Chi]

Like, not to be that person that talks about their dog in, like, this way, but, like, he just. He's the best dog in the world.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is your dog on your screensaver?

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is he really?

[Monet X Change]

The.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Butter's cute and his ears are. Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

But he, like, never pees and poofs inside the house. He's, like, well behaved. He's good with children. He's good with other dogs.

[Monet X Change]

But it's very cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Potato. Tried to eat it.

[Kim Chi]

When I'm, like, getting, like, ready to go out, Butter sees me, and then he'll just go to his crate and sit down. Really? And then when I come back and I don't even lock the crate.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you train him yourself?

[Kim Chi]

No, I hired a trainer who.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's probably why.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If I.

[Monet X Change]

If I had a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you want to shout out your trainer? If anyone wants to.

[Kim Chi]

Her name is Colleen Morita. She's an amazing lady. I don't know where you're gonna find social media, but she's great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Obviously, Butter is very. What's up, Jacob?

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

How did you choose him?

[Kim Chi]

How did I choose him?

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Butter?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

So around the pandemic time, none of the shelters, like, had dogs because everyone was, like, adapting like crazy. So I was like, all right, I guess I'll have to go to the breeder route, you know, which I don't. You like a support, you know, but.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

At the time, desperate times call for desperate measures.

[Monet X Change]

So what's on your screen saver?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's factory settings. Oh, my screen server is always. I never changed the. Well, I. I had a picture of me as a clown on my last phone, but that was. That was every other phone I've ever had. My background is always fact.

[Kim Chi]

Okay, so when drag queens have, like, a. Photos of themselves as, like, a background saver, do you think it's narcissistic or do you think it's self love?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If it's a. I think it's kind of. Kind of if it's a cute picture. I mean, I don't have a lot of thoughts about it to be Honest. I thought about recently switching my background to this character named Heimerdinger from the game League of Legends. Because I'm obsessed with League of Legends right now, and I can't believe you never played League of Legends. We talked about that. I'm so gagged.

[Kim Chi]

I tried playing it once, and I didn't get it. And then everybody there like, that I was playing against was way too good. So I'm like, all right, I'm not gonna try to learn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is pretty toxic.

[Monet X Change]

That's a hood of my arrival.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So think about switching it. I'm thinking about switching it to a picture of Heimerdinger from League of Legends, but. And yours is what? Your background, bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, it's of my fiance. Let me see. Or a toast after we got engaged.

[Kim Chi]

A.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's drinking. Wow. That's crazy.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, look what I can do to a man, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So one of my favorite things about Kim is when I found out that Kim is actually a graphic designer. So this will lead us into talking about your. Because I didn't.

[Monet X Change]

I don't tell Himachi in a library.

[Kim Chi]

Avengers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's two books.

[Kim Chi]

Two books. I know. It's kind of crazy how that happened, but it just. I got two different book deals at two different times. And then the post, you were like, fight over it? No, not even. It just ended up coming at the same time, which, like, it's crazy because people are like, what kind of book did you release? I'm like, well, there's two books.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you do the graphic design for your book? No. Oh. Because I was. Because I remember thinking, like, Kim probably would graphic design the whole book.

[Kim Chi]

I thought about it, but I'm just like, I haven't done graphic design in, like, 10 years, so let me just leave it to the professionals.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, so do. So wait, you worked in, like, graphic design, like, professionally?

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh.

[Kim Chi]

I was doing stuff like hotels and restaurants.

[Monet X Change]

Really? Like, designing spaces and lobbies and helping them.

[Kim Chi]

Like. No, no, that's interior design.

[Monet X Change]

Sorry. For, like, logos and, like, stuff like that. Got it. So did you design.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, clothes? That's. That's fashion design.

[Monet X Change]

Did you design your kimchi logo?

[Kim Chi]

Kimchi logo? No, I did not. Okay. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I mean, she. She's saying she leaves problems now because I imagine if you haven't done it for 10 years, baby, when you log back in the interface, there have been times where I tried to use, like, GarageBand, but I took a break. I don't recognize the whole interface has changed.

[Kim Chi]

Her books are always, like, changing there's, you know, like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, so donate Telemachi at a library Avengers. Tell us about her.

[Kim Chi]

Okay, so that whole thing came from a tweet. I was up in my feelings, like, reading, like, articles about how a lot of public libraries are getting defunded. So then I tweeted about how much the public libraries meant to me, and then that tweet kind of, like, blew up in the library community. And then all these librarians from all around the world were messaging me saying, thank you so much for speaking up for us.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love librarians, too.

[Kim Chi]

And people, like, don't care about the library.

[Monet X Change]

What do you got to say for yourself now?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was a bit. It was not a bit to abolish libraries. I was joking.

[Kim Chi]

The villain in the book is actually inspired by Bob Blob, the Draxing. Who is this evil villain that wants to tear down the library to build a mall?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Kim texted me, was like, now would be a good time. Kim was like, now would be a good time to tell you that there's a character, but you didn't tell me that it was the villain.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, it really is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It really?

[Monet X Change]

Yes. That is everything to me that makes me so happy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To those of you who don't know, I made a. I was saying a while back when I was. I was was saying a point that led to a joke was like, I think maybe the space in libraries could be more. Because they're gigantic. Libraries are usually really huge. Especially when I was living in New York City, I would walk by these massive libraries, like, maybe this space could be used more efficiently. And then I jokingly said, you know what? Abolish libraries, obviously.

[Monet X Change]

I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've toured libraries myself since then. I grew up going to the library all the time. I went through my origami phase.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, my God. Did you know that I'm also really good at origami?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did. Really?

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. I took origami lessons for four years.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you grab a piece of paper, Jacob or Taylor or somebody? Four years. I think that I could make a crane right now.

[Monet X Change]

I can't make any.

[Kim Chi]

I can make a lot of things right now.

[Monet X Change]

I can't make a single thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I went through a phase where I was obsessed with origami, and I would get these origami books, and I would practice. Let me see.

[Kim Chi]

I mean, I'll take one, too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, Monet, you have to do something.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, I got y'.

[Kim Chi]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I got crazy. But, yeah, so, I mean, I. I. So, Kim, did you, like, grow up growing to libraries and stuff.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, for sure. So obviously, our family was really poor, like, growing up, so I never got to go to, like, summer camp and anything like that. So during summertime, I would go to. I would, like, walk my ass over to the local library, and I would use their computers, check out the magazines, rent their CDs, and then bring it onto my computer, screaming. I know, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Pirate.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Because there's so many resources at a library.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That allow you to do illegal activities like pirate.

[Kim Chi]

And then our summer library also had a program where if you read five books, you get a voucher for, like, a bagel and cream cheese from a bagel shop next door. So I would read so many books, and that's how I feel myself.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honestly, being able to, like, eat off of gaining knowledge is kind of brilliant.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I mean. Yeah, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So.

[Kim Chi]

And then I eventually became, like, involved with, like, the local public libraries, where I was, like, in the young adult, like, advisory board.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

[Kim Chi]

Like, you know, helping them decide, like, which book they're gonna order. I helped, like, organize, like, the library's, like, anime festival.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, wow, girl.

[Monet X Change]

Like, you, like, like, legit were, like, part of, like, the.

[Kim Chi]

The library community. Yeah. Oh, they're very important to me. And. And people don't realize, like, it's not just a place where you can, like, rent books, but it's also a great community resource. If you don't speak English, the librarians will help you fill out job applications.

[Monet X Change]

And so which is why. So, which is why when Bob said those words on the podcast, it really hurt you, because you're someone who is.

[Kim Chi]

And I was like, you know what? I will expose Bob in my own way again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was a bit. But I do say. But in all reality, I used to go to library. I walked to the library all the time as a kid. The library in Morrow, Georgia, or it. Maybe it might have been Ellenwood, but it was a Clayton county library. It was a really interesting shape that actually the building looked like origami. The library itself kind of looked like. Can you pull a picture of the library in Ellenwood, Georgia? Jacob? This is the library I used to walk to once a week. And it was right next to a place called Zing Wings. Zing Wings was right next door to the library. So I would try to get some money. That is not. Oh, that's not.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, that's not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Type in the old one. Apparently there's a new library now. But there used to be, like, a really interesting shape library. But also that building was. It Was old when I used to go to it it back in the day. So yeah, they probably. Oh my God, is it, did they destroy it? Did they abolish that library?

[Kim Chi]

Oh, no. I wonder who had an influence on it.

[Monet X Change]

I know, I wonder, I wonder why they decided to do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I, I, I did on part of my book tour. I went to the, I went to the, the public library, one of the public libraries in Atlanta, Georgia, and did a whole thing there for them. So, yeah, guys, I, I say a lot of stuff. I make a lot of yuck yucks. So if any. Oh, did you know Reading Rainbow's back?

[Kim Chi]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it.

[Kim Chi]

Oh my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

With LeVar Burton? No, not with LaVar Burton.

[Kim Chi]

So, Bob, are there any librarians or libraries that you want to apologize to using your platform?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I want to apologize to the, the Reading Rainbow community. The new host of Reading Rainbow, his name is Jacob. Pull up right now. He's actually, he's actually like a tiktoker who, who went viral for his love for books. And he, and he also was very open about, I believe he's very open about being on the spectrum. And a lot of people were real Michael, Michael Threets. And he just loves, he's just a guy who just fucking loves books. Like, he's obsessed with books and he's honestly really, really, really charming. And I just am. It's kind of gaggy that Reading Rainbow is back.

[Monet X Change]

Honestly, I never watched Reading Rainbows. I don't know what the premise of the show is. You're just sitting in a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's a book club. Oh, Reading Rainbow is a book club.

[Monet X Change]

And everyone in the world is reading this book or the kids.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So each week LeVar Burton would recommend a book or a couple of. And he'd be like, this book. This week we're talking about the book Yada yada Yada, or this, we're talking about this book. And then they would review the books together or like they would do animations from the book. So it was basically just a book club for kids.

[Monet X Change]

Got it, got it, got it.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. Should he do a book club?

[Monet X Change]

Bob's book club? I have a book club, actually.

[Kim Chi]

You do?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We only read two books. We read Afro Pessimism and we read Harriet Tubman. Harriet Tubman. This great book by this brilliant author named Harriet Tubman. Live in concert. Concert. And I mean, we don't do, we don't do them. We don't do them every single month. I'm trying to decide what our next book should be. But I think maybe we. We figured it out. Oh, my God. If we do it, will you come to the Patreon and, like, be part of the review?

[Kim Chi]

You know, I'll say yes to anything you do, Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, and Kim, honestly, Kim is a real one.

[Monet X Change]

Kim really is a real.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Star 7 finale.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was. It was.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, no, we can talk about it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You had to be there for it.

[Monet X Change]

Tell me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, well, Kim, you want to talk about it?

[Kim Chi]

I mean, why don't. Why don't you say you. Your story.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, so, Kim, me and Naomi are going to review the All Star seven finale. Ten finale. Yeah. And then we were.

[Monet X Change]

I do remember.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We all watched the episode, and then.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Kim said, we all got matching outfits made.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, we got matching out. We all had matching outfits. We were going to. It was going to be real cute, cutting, and coined. And then Kim was like, I don't know that I have too much nice to say about this episode. So I think it's best for me to shut my ass up. Up.

[Kim Chi]

You know, it's just they say if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything.

[Monet X Change]

Don't say anything at all. Fierce. And you better than me. Are you making a bowl?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm making a crane. I haven't done it in a while. This. This part is kind of hard for me, but I'm. I'm getting there. What are you making, honey? That is a flower. That is honestly incredible.

[Monet X Change]

You want to guess what mine is?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it. It's a 747. That's a spirit. That's a Spirit Airline.

[Monet X Change]

It's a Boeing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A Boeing 747.

[Kim Chi]

It's going down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A Boeing. Airbus.

[Monet X Change]

The Airbus.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you know the difference between a Boeing?

[Kim Chi]

Do you ever, like, you see, like, a flight book, then you check and see, like, what aircraft carrier it is, and you see it. It's like a Boeing 373. And you're like.

[Monet X Change]

You're like, the door's gonna follow this motherfucker.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So let's talk a little bit about Kimchi Easter World.

[Kim Chi]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So what about.

[Monet X Change]

Which.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which one? Which? Well, in fact, let's take a break first.

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[Monet X Change]

Okay, so we're back. Okay, so kimchi eats the world. So this one is you going around the world and talking about different cuisines that you like, that you've made or that you want to try or like how?

[Kim Chi]

Oh, all of the above. So each recipe, it's almost like an autobiography in a way, where I share my story on, like, why that recipe's there. So the whole book was conceived because during pandemic, I couldn't travel the world anymore, and I couldn't eat all this delicious food. So then I started recreating these dishes that I ate on my travels in my American kitchen.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, fierce.

[Kim Chi]

So it's basically like a love letter. I'm not trying to, like, colonize any dishes, but it's more like introducing everyone to some of my favorite global cuisine that I've eaten around the world.

[Monet X Change]

I will say, y', all, Kim is. When it comes to food, Kim is a. Well, a fountain of resources and information. You are going to a city. Cause you've been to so much of the world, and you like Kim, girl, I'm in Paris, and I'm looking for, like, a good restaurant. She'll send you a thing like, okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No Googling off top of the dome.

[Monet X Change]

She's like, okay, what kind of food do you want? What kind do you like? Do you have any? Da, da, da. And Kim will send you five restaurants and be like, well, you should go here if you want this. Go to this if you want this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, here.

[Monet X Change]

And it's like a detailed fucking dossier of what food you should eat.

[Kim Chi]

Because everyone has a different palette and different expectations. So what what I think is going to be the best for me, it might not be the best for you, you know? So I try to, like, consider everyone's, like, palette and, like, their Needs in mind when I recommend and make suggestions.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's your last meal?

[Kim Chi]

My last meal?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Your last. No, not the last one you had.

[Kim Chi]

But like, oh, the very final.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You get to plan out your last meal. What is your last meal?

[Kim Chi]

Fresh cooked rice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Kim Chi]

Spam. Grilled, crispy.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I love Spam. I love Spam.

[Kim Chi]

Three sunny side eggs, egg, and a bowl of kimchi. Very simple, but it's like my ultimate comfort food.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you can make that yourself?

[Kim Chi]

Oh, yeah. I mean, it's just eggs and Spam.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Is there specific kimchi, like, from a place or like a recipe, a type?

[Kim Chi]

I like cabbage kimchi that's been like, fermented just like a week and chilled like, green onion kimchi.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it? Is it? I feel like you say it's like, it's like easy, whatever, but like, I feel like notoriously sunny side up, eggs are really hard to cook, cook, and I feel like rice is maybe the. Do you know about the. The rice wars on Tick Tock?

[Kim Chi]

Wait, what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. The rice war, girl. You don't know about the rice war?

[Kim Chi]

What's the rice war?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. Do you wash it? Do you not wash it? How many times do you wash it? Do you.

[Kim Chi]

Why is it even a debate? You, of course you lost the rice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then there's like, do use the. Do you use a rice cooker? How much rice? Do you put a pinch of salt in it? I think it's like different cultures being like, well, this is how we cook rice. This is how we cook rice. Do you use chicken broth? Do you use water?

[Kim Chi]

You know, I say, if you're making rice for yourself, cook it however you want it to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you wash your rice?

[Kim Chi]

You know, I don't understand why people are like, fighting online about, like, if you don't want to wash your rice, that's you, you know?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I mean, I don't cook rice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You never cook rice.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, like, when I was like, oh, I've not cooked rice in easily.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

10, 12 years, Jacob went through a rice phase. Jacob was really in his cooking rice bag.

[Kim Chi]

What made you stop?

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

What made me stop? Oh, honestly, I was just eating the same thing over and over again.

[Kim Chi]

It was.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

It wasn't just rice. I was like, having rice and like salmon. I. It was like an easy meal that I can make and was good. But then I just like, had it like every day for like three months. And then I was like, it's time to diverse. I'm not like a great cook. Like, there are like five dishes I can do, like, passively well. And then I get sick of them and move on to the next one.

[Kim Chi]

Like those hyper fixation meals.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then he had his egg era.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Oh, yeah. I can make really good omelettes.

[Monet X Change]

Well, every time I want, like, there are some, like, Asian dishes that I like to make. But so, like, for example, when I want to make sticky rice. Not sticky rice. When you put the tuna.

[Kim Chi]

Tuna?

[Monet X Change]

No, like a spicy tuna.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then.

[Monet X Change]

But so a lot of them call for. You have to make the rice. It has to sit for like a day or in the fridge for a day. Then you take it out and then make it all the ones I've seen. And I'm like, I can't commit. I want to, like, make it now.

[Kim Chi]

Are you talking about, like, the crispy rice?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, sorry. Crispy rice. Yes. But so you had to, like, make the rice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You mean it's like. It's like.

[Monet X Change]

What do you mean it's crisp?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, it's literally crispy.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So you make the rice, it sits in the fridge or whatever, like for a day, then you take it out, and then you like that. And then you have to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That looks delicious.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, it's amazing. And I want to make stuff like that, but I'm like, girl, I don't have. I don't have the thing to be like, okay, I'm gonna make the rice. Rice today for tomorrow.

[Kim Chi]

Okay. So I have just a thing for you. When you go to Asian grocery stores, they sell individually pre made rice, and all you have to do is just take the individual pack and throw in the microwave for two minutes, and then it's hot and fresh. So many of the Korean people all have, like, these in their pantries. Because really not everyone wants to cook, like, big things of rice every time. You can just get individual servings.

[Monet X Change]

So just go to a Korean supermarket.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Or any Asian supermarket.

[Kim Chi]

Individual picture of what it looks like. They're called, like, hepban, and it's individually portioned cooked rice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Girl.

[Monet X Change]

When Kim and I went to South Korea, Going to South Korea with Kimji is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Never got the invite.

[Monet X Change]

We. We were working.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Naomi got the invite.

[Kim Chi]

You know, you were doing your own gigs. You know, we were still on the.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, we were working the world.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, boy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I never. Well, Kim, Naomi did get the invite. Naomi got the, like, the exclusive. Kim.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I have. I haven't gotten that yet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That one is like. All right, I'm ready to reveal. I know y' all have already filled yours, but. All right. This is my crane.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I'm actually very impressed by that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I should spread it. Look at you.

[Kim Chi]

There it is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, there we go.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Does it fly?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Cranes. I don't. Mine doesn't fly. I'm sure someone out there can make one that flies fly. Fly.

[Kim Chi]

Mine, however.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, exactly. Does not. I am very impressed, actually.

[Monet X Change]

It's almost like a. What's the dinosaur with, like the long neck? A stegosaurus.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A brontosaurus.

[Monet X Change]

Sure.

[Kim Chi]

I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

It's giving. Brontosaurus.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

That's very impressive.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So there she is.

[Monet X Change]

She also, like, it's almost like a double sided dildo. Like both sides could be a crane. Like, let me see. Like, if you told me. Oh, this is.

[Kim Chi]

How do you get a double sided dildo out of that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why?

[Monet X Change]

You're like, oh, like, oh, this is the head. Like, that's the crane. If you almost told me this. Oh, this is the head.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's the tail. Yeah. So the head and the tail are actually the exact. This is how you bend it. So the tail, you bend it lower and then the head, you put it higher and you bend it down. But they're other than that. They are literally the exact same.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that's very good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, the exact same.

[Monet X Change]

I'm very impressed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But that was from. I learned that from the library in Clayton County.

[Kim Chi]

Clay Cole support your local libraries.

[Monet X Change]

What is one of your favorite recipes from the book?

[Kim Chi]

Oh, there's anchovy pasta that I like.

[Monet X Change]

Anchovies are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When you can't.

[Monet X Change]

Yuck. People's young. No, no, like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You should have covered your mouth in.

[Monet X Change]

No anchovies. I just don't fuck with anchovies. Anchovies are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The eat anchovies more than you know you do. I.

[Monet X Change]

It's, It's. But I, I've never had like a. Maybe like once or twice I've had.

[Kim Chi]

It's not just a pasta. The anchovies just like dissolved in the sauce. It just gives like a light, salty umami.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't even taste like a place that always has. I think. I didn't know until someone mentioned I think Little Caesars, their crust has anchovies in it.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think maybe Little Caesar.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's Little caesars with little $5 pizzas there, Papa. It might be Papa John, but there's some place that for like all their crust has anchovies in it. And you never. But like, anchovies is in more things than you realize. Ugh.

[Monet X Change]

Anchovies. I don't like anchovies, but I will Say this, so can you please explain? Andy and I go on this all the time. I'm doing the Bob, I'm hitting you. What is. Cause, you know, umami is, like a flavor. It's, like, salty. It's, like, sweet. Yeah. Umami. Yeah. But I cannot tell you what umami like. I can describe salty. I can describe sweet. I cannot describe umami. Like, what does umami taste like?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or what is.

[Monet X Change]

Do you know? Do you know what it is?

[Kim Chi]

Is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I. I've had umami things, but I don't have. First of all, I do not have a refined palette. So, like, for me, I'll be eating something really bad, and it'll taste as good as when it's really good.

[Kim Chi]

It's like a savory flavor. Okay. Imagine you, like, bite into a rind of parmesan.

[Monet X Change]

Parmesan. Okay.

[Kim Chi]

You know, like that, like, savory.

[Monet X Change]

Feel the rind specifically.

[Kim Chi]

No, I don't know. I'm just. Okay, got it to my mind.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

Or even if you just, like, bite into, like, a piece of tomato, you know, know you get, like, a little, like, savory.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

It's the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Like, I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone knows that.

[Monet X Change]

I don't. I, I, I can't, like, I can't pin in my brain. I can't pinpoint the taste of umami.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, j.

[Monet X Change]

Can you A mushroom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're gonna read what Google says umami is. Let's see. What. What does Google say umami is? It does seem really hard to. You got to make a big baby.

[Kim Chi]

I cannot. Oh, I mean, we're not.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

I'm gonna find a dictionary because the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Google AI isn't going to be a good summary. Got it, got it, got it, got it.

[Kim Chi]

Gang.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Gang.

[Monet X Change]

Mama.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, what's your last meal, Monet?

[Monet X Change]

Ooh, my last meal. I'm getting the fried chicken from Brassica in Boston. And y'.

[Kim Chi]

All.

[Monet X Change]

I know. And I was like, boston Fried Chicken? The fried chicken at the restaurant Brassica in Boston is some. When we. If we are ever in Boston together, we have to go to Brassica. Kim is one of the best meals I've ever had.

[Kim Chi]

Okay. Wow.

[Monet X Change]

The menu is so good. And they change it every season, and it's like, it's good. It's not the cheapest place, but it is such good food.

[Kim Chi]

Should you go to P Town next year and stop at Boston on the way?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I, I, We.

[Monet X Change]

We. I haven't been to P Town in, like, two years. I'll be down to go to P Town.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It wasn't a hot minute, so I've been a bit.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, we were there together.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That would be great. Actually. I would love to go to pizza.

[Monet X Change]

I'll be down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I.

[Kim Chi]

Wait.

[Monet X Change]

I wasn't finished the Brassica fried chicken. Yes, I'm eating my last meal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This last one you're gonna get.

[Monet X Change]

I want some type of macaroni and cheese from somewhere that's, like, my favorite Mac. Actually, you know what?

[Kim Chi]

My mom.

[Monet X Change]

I want her to make my macaroni and cheese and some oxtails.

[Kim Chi]

Wait, do you like egg in your Mac and cheese or no?

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Kim Chi]

Do you like Mac and cheese? That's more, like, together or, like, creamy and, like, runny.

[Monet X Change]

So because I'm West Indian, we, like. We call it. We actually call it macaroni pie. And it's more together. It's not like, the gooey thing.

[Kim Chi]

So your Mac and cheese is not as sweet as St. Lucia.

[Monet X Change]

That's my last meal.

[Kim Chi]

Meal.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. What about you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My last meal will probably be Domino's pizza. No, I do like Domino's Pizza, but it probably wouldn't be. My last meal would probably be chicken wings. I like. I would have buffalo wings. I would like them to be fried. I like to be battered and fried.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, you like battered wings?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I like both.

[Kim Chi]

It's okay if you do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like both. I. I like both. Most wing places don't have battered wings, but I do like a battered wing. I would do. Do probably a 20 piece. It'd be half buffalo and half lemon pepper, but the lemon pepper would be naked. They would not be battered.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then I would have a shit ton of ranch. I would have some seasoned french fries and a lemonade.

[Kim Chi]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I would be so happy.

[Kim Chi]

From Wingstop or something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, not so. I actually don't love Wingstop wings, actually.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. Thank you for saying that. I ordered it the other day, and you know when you have. When I have a meal from somewhere and something about it was wrong, it would taint my experience forever. I ordered Wingstop about six months ago, and I don't know, something was wrong with this batch of wings, but, like, every. After each bite, every wing, it had.

[Kim Chi]

Like, a weird, chickeny, tiny, chicken y thing.

[Monet X Change]

And I was like, oh, my God, I can never eat wings forever again.

[Kim Chi]

One is, like, not fresh.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. I think that's what it was. So I could never have a Wingstop wing ever again because I was like. It was disgusting.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, my God. So when I was just on tour, I was, like, craving wings really bad, So I ordered 20 pieces of wings.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wings.

[Monet X Change]

Her wings up.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. And I think I got someone else's order because I got 80 wings and it was just like, so many wings.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you call the crew?

[Kim Chi]

So I asked everyone, like, in the group text, like, does anyone want wings? And we're like, no. Like, we're like, out eating dinner. It's like, no one wants, like, these wings. So then I just, like, put it in my refrigerator and I just never went back to it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would say eating old wings is actually not that bad.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Something about like, like, if wings get cold, I could eat, eat. I could eat old.

[Kim Chi]

We could toss it in the air fryer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, I mean, I, I, I, I'm going to. My hot take is this. Actually, this is not a hot take. This is a super valid take.

[Monet X Change]

When you say old, you mean, like, in the fridge cold and like, like pizza. You eat out the fridge cold.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Or if it's, if it's just sit on the counter, I, I'll go back and eat it. I. Popeye's wings are great.

[Kim Chi]

I don't think I've ever had them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Popeye's wing, the signature hot is fantastic. I do not do Popeyes. Lemon pepper wings. Those are not good because they're breaded. You can't. Breading lemon pepper wings is crazy in my humble opinion.

[Monet X Change]

Also, batter. Like, if it's a lemon pepper sauce, I mean, that's not real lemon pepper. I think dry rub lemon pepper is the best way. How many wings do you like? If you by yourself and having, like, I want to have enough wings to feel good. How many wings is that? Like singles?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I would probably do either. This is a hard question to answer. Okay. Do I have a side?

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's no fries?

[Monet X Change]

No, just wings.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I really want fries with my wings. But you're prohibiting fries.

[Kim Chi]

I am prohibiting fries, but that's part of the experience for fries and wings.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I'm gonna, for this social experiment, I'm gonna prohibit fries. 12.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Kim Chi]

So for me, instead of fries, I love celery and carrots.

[Monet X Change]

I was gonna say that. That's good. Like, it's like a nice crust.

[Kim Chi]

It's like a little crunchy and something fresh to, like, break up all that. Like, greens.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

How, how, how many for you, on a realistic level? 20.

[Monet X Change]

Same. I was going to say 20.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

12. 12.

[Monet X Change]

12.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm like, I want more. Or I'll do six wings and a giant thing of like. I mean, like, the fries are like. It's the fries.

[Kim Chi]

Like, and do you dip the fries in ranch too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do I dip the fries in ranch? I would dip my lemonade in the ranch.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I want everything covered in ranch. Ranch. Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

See, blue cheese is worth that for me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, blue cheese is great.

[Monet X Change]

I'm a ranch girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Blue cheese is great in a. Blue cheese belongs on salads. Ranch belongs for dipping.

[Kim Chi]

But mango habanero wings. Yes.

[Monet X Change]

Blue cheese, I will agree with that. Also got this. So I have to, you know, I'm going to do a thing, a video at my house. So I've gotten really into making all these like protein rich foods. And I make a protein ranch.

[Kim Chi]

Yes. With a Greek yogurt.

[Monet X Change]

With Greek yogurt.

[Kim Chi]

And you thin it with a little bit of milk to get that like runny consistency.

[Monet X Change]

Almond milk. You put a little lemon juice in there. I know.

[Kim Chi]

And then you put in some like a little like grated garlic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, girl.

[Kim Chi]

And it is. And chives. You gotta have chive.

[Monet X Change]

I put dill in mind.

[Kim Chi]

Okay, that works too.

[Monet X Change]

Can I pick something up?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What? Last night I was watching Monet's stream. You were streaming last night?

[Monet X Change]

Uh huh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And me and Taylor were watching it together. And then during the stream, Mone goes someone named Gavin. Gavin was like, I know Gavin. Cause Gavin comes to my lives too. On Newsom. Gavin.

[Monet X Change]

Newsom Gavin. Newsom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Gavin was like, you should do a smash tournament. And Monet was like, what a great original idea. I think I will do a smash tournament.

[Monet X Change]

I did not say his original idea.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I'm being a little hard.

[Monet X Change]

I said, that's a great idea, Gavin.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you're like, yeah, I am. But then, you know, I was planning a smash tournament.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, Bob, smash tournaments happen. Literally. You open your switch. They are always in the thing. On the journey. Yes, you can go. If you open your thing and go to the playbook. If you open smash and you go to the yellow thing, there's always a thing of tournament. Tournament are happening all the time. I'm just saying. You are not the inventor of smash tournaments, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm just saying you streaming a smash tournament is very interesting.

[Monet X Change]

You're not the inventor of smash tournaments.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What you're saying is interesting.

[Monet X Change]

Anyways. Okay, wait. I was gonna say the sweet spot for me is I get an order of 18 wings. So I have three different sauces. I'll get a lemon pepper. I will get a barbecue or a teriyaki.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, why did I say barbecue? Barbecue wings.

[Kim Chi]

Barbecue wings are like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not it. That's really not.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, that's from where y' all order.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

From no, barbecue's not. No, no, no. But.

[Kim Chi]

But I support you. Thank you. On your wing journey.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Comment below what you think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, comment below. Barbecue wings is.

[Kim Chi]

No, it's not for me, but it's for you.

[Monet X Change]

And I want a spicy one. So I'll either get a mango habanero or something in that vein. That's, like, spicy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ooh, baby. Garlic parmesan wings.

[Monet X Change]

Garlic parmesan wings are good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

I'm getting so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you know a queen who's a really good cook?

[Kim Chi]

Do I know a queen who's, like, a really good cook from drag race queens or anyone? You know, I probably do. I just can't think of them. Top of my head.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think you're a better cook than most of those girls? You can be you. You don't have to be.

[Monet X Change]

Kim is a really good cook.

[Kim Chi]

I'm a really good cook, so. One that I've tasted. I'm sure there's, like, amazing queens that are good cooked, but we're rarely invited to, like, these queens homes, you know, really get to, like, taste. I'm sure they do amazing job.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Apparently, latrice and silky are really good.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, I believe it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Silky has. Silky has a book out.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, she does have a book.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Apparently silky is, like, the cook of all Jake's allegiance.

[Monet X Change]

So messy.

[Kim Chi]

You know, big girls, they know how to eat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Big girls know how to eat, girl. So I believe. I believe I know that Sookie has a cookbook and. And, like, a drink book, too. No, I think it has cocktails in it, too. Ginger has a. Ginger has a cookbook.

[Kim Chi]

There's, like, a random cocktail book where I'm undercover.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But, like, you don't drink.

[Kim Chi]

I don't drink, and I, like, never knew about it. And I just see the book and I'm like, oh, that's clearly me undercover.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. Is you holding a giant martini? That's not a martini.

[Monet X Change]

Or a cosmo.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, I don't think, like, I've ever, like, signed up on it. I mean, whatever. Like, I'm not.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, your outfit is cute. You by.

[Kim Chi]

I mean, but, you know, like, I don't drink, so I'm just, like. This seems, like, so random. Like, did you ever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you ever reach out to them?

[Kim Chi]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you want to. Do you want to call them out now?

[Kim Chi]

No. You know, like, I hope. I hope you sold a lot.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I'm in it, too. Go. Is that me? No, down.

[Kim Chi]

No, that's Trixie.

[Monet X Change]

To the right. To the right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Divine. You Think divine signed off on it. Has a drink in there.

[Monet X Change]

I think I have. I think I've seen. I think I have a drink in it as well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think you are in there, Mon.

[Monet X Change]

I really think I am.

[Kim Chi]

What if Monet wasn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's Monet's book. I think I remember me being in this book somehow, if my memory serves me properly. I believe it is.

[Kim Chi]

There's the whole Monet chapter now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have a question. How many times have you worked the world at this point? I think you are the current reigning work the world queen.

[Kim Chi]

I've done since day one.

[Monet X Change]

You've worked the most worlds, like, since day one.

[Kim Chi]

I've, like, witnessed every single down. I've witnessed every drama. And do you remember when we, like, refused to get dressed because we were, like, the first ones ready every show, and then we're like, we will not be getting dressed until everyone is fully dressed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. Me, you, and Latrice were all on a united front. So me, Kim and Latrice were like, we are sick of waiting. And I. I think you can imagine what. What queens were on this tour.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That we were sick of waiting.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So we were like, we. We've had it.

[Kim Chi]

And we're not talking, like, 30, 40 minutes. We're taking, like, hours.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was it.

[Kim Chi]

Huh?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was you, Monet? It was maneuvering. But so. So we were in. We were in Canada at the time. We were in Canada.

[Kim Chi]

It was Montreal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Montreal, yeah, we were in Montreal. And then we were just like, me. We had our. We had our makeup done, we had our hair on, but we didn't. I think I may have had my padding on or something.

[Kim Chi]

We were fully ready. Except the outfit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

And the outfit is, like, right next to us.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So we were like, we're not gonna get ready until they're ready. I'm not gonna get dressed until they start getting dressed. I. I literally refuse to get dressed if they're not getting dressed. And then that led into the next. Was that the one? Okay, this might. Whatever. We'll see. But do you remember the work the world where Shangela was? We were in Orlando, Florida, and Shangela called this big meeting into the dressing room to have a conversation about, like, professionalism or something.

[Monet X Change]

I don't remember.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then Shangela had a gig over at Parliament House. And then we were like. We were headed to the. There's two buses. There's a dancer bus, and there's a queen bus or the queen bus. And everyone else, basically. So Shangela Wanted to ride to the. To part of my house in a bus. Do you remember this at all?

[Kim Chi]

Yes, vaguely.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Shangela was like, I'm gonna take the bus to the thing. And we were like, no, we are loading the buses up. We need these buses. These are. This is our home.

[Kim Chi]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We live on these buses. You can't take a bus to the gig.

[Kim Chi]

She's calling Uber.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But she wanted the continence of pulling up in a bus. And they were like, no, girl, you can't have the bus. So then she's out there talking to one of the drivers. And this driver was like. When I say his neck was red, like, this man was like. He had a thick, thick southern accent. And she had this guy going, but she wants to take the dancer bus. So they're going back and forth, but we're still loading stuff onto it. They're going back and forth. Then she was like, baby, I'm taking this bus. And then he was like, well, he said, well, bitch. I remember him saying. Saying, well, I don't know how the you gonna get this bus there if you don't know how to drive. Then Shangel's like, hold on now. And they're all going back and forth. So then he was like, well, you might get. And he said, well, you might get there, but it ain't gonna be on this bus. So then Shangela calls the Uber, and then all the queens show up and we come on the bus. So then the driver is like, this will be great. So the driver takes all the other queens, and we all show up in our bus, and we're all getting off the bus, and there was, like, this whole. The whole.

[Monet X Change]

To do what is what, What? In your honest opinion, what was the best work the world you did in terms of theme of the show? And, like, the show, I'll say probably.

[Kim Chi]

The best work the world that I did was with you. The planet, the planets. But also that one was just, like, really fun because the vibes are right.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

And then we had our switch plugged.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

And we'll play Smash.

[Kim Chi]

So we play, like, Smash Bros, like, after, Like.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Yes.

[Kim Chi]

Like, when we were, like, ready every day. And then it was just like a fun cast of girls. Like, the vibes were great and all the girls were, like, all professional.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Violet was there, but it was still fun. I can.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can honestly say that I filled in one time on that one for you, actually.

[Kim Chi]

Oh, in Paris.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, in Paris.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And it was. I remember. I remember thinking to myself when I was here it was not this nice. I remember thinking to myself, baby, when I was here, this it. We did not have a.

[Kim Chi]

The girls, now, they're so spoiled compared to, like, some of the stuff that we had to go through. Like, they have, like, a roadie showcase that they, like, put all their, like, office on. So they don't even have to pack up the suitcase.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

And they also did. No.

[Kim Chi]

They don't even pack their, like, outfits away now. They just take it off and put in the floor, and then all the wardrobe people will take their outfits and, like, hang it up. I know, I know. On. On.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On. On what?

[Monet X Change]

The first year I did it was. The first year they. Well, they didn't introduce it. Like, it was kind of sort of happening where we had. Gio was fixing wigs, and I was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kenny was on it, right?

[Monet X Change]

And Kenny was on it, too. I was like, oh, wow. Someone fix your wigs. Y' all were like, girl, this is. This is a new addition, baby.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When Gio started doing wigs, I was. So Gio is also a queen. Who.

[Monet X Change]

Gio was a drag queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Gio's a queen. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I had no idea.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Gio was brought on through Asia o', Hara, and then he was at first just doing Asia's wigs. Yeah, he was doing anyone's wig but Asia's wigs. And then Violet would drop a wig off, and then Naomi would drop a wig off.

[Kim Chi]

But then the girls got crazy. Of course, then they'll give them. They'll give them, like, five wigs of style, but they wouldn't even wear it during the show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was crazy.

[Kim Chi]

And then, like, oh, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For extra gigs.

[Kim Chi]

For extra gigs. And they'll just, like, take the wig.

[Monet X Change]

And I'm like, yeah, that was crazy.

[Kim Chi]

He's like, literally, sign only, like, 40 wigs in, like, one day. And I'm like, you're not even using this wig. Why is he styling all of these?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And. And then. And then there were. There were. Then there was, like, maybe, like, three. There was, like, a little Joey, Kenny, and, like, Luis.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Were the three people who were doing well.

[Monet X Change]

Louis and B.J. detox, assistant. It.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He wasn't there for mine.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I, I. I never worked. No, I did work with Detox. I did work with Detox number when she did.

[Kim Chi]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Erotic. Erotic. Put your hands on. That was the time where. Where Detox went crazy because we were in Madrid or Barcelona, and Valentina convinced. Brandon, convinced Brandon Voss to give her a second number. But no, in the show in the show. Do you remember this?

[Kim Chi]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And no one knew she was doing a second number.

[Monet X Change]

Second number.

[Kim Chi]

Okay, do you have to REM city where Valentina went to go do an interview? That.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was the same one.

[Kim Chi]

It was Barcelona and then.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or Madrid. It was one of those two.

[Kim Chi]

And after coming from the interview, she was fully in drag. She got out of drag for no reason.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yep.

[Monet X Change]

Like vase.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So this is what happened. So I was. I mean, I was. Let's just call it Madrid. I think it was. It was something. It was in Spain. I remember being in the elevator headed to the venue, and then I just ran. I happened to run into Valentina in the elevator, and she had. She's like, can you put this belt on me, please? I was like, yeah, yeah. And she was in full drag. And I remember being like. I remember saying, like, valentina, I'm so proud of you. I cannot believe you're, like, in full drag.

[Kim Chi]

Like, she's gonna be ready in time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. She's like, well, I have an interview, and I'm gonna be on time, and I'm working on it, yada, yada, yada. I was like, oh, my God, that's amazing. I put her belt on. She went on her way, and I went on my way. We all went to go do the meet and greet. Valentina hadn't shown up yet. And then Valentina showed up to the venue out of drag, out of clothes or makeup, out of wig. She had. All she had on was her, like, most of her famous face. And she had. She didn't have a wig on. She didn't have her body on. She was wearing, like, day clothes, no wig, and her face wasn't, like, done. It's like she wanted to redo something. She, like, wiped the lips or something.

[Kim Chi]

I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Remember, something was something it wasn't. She wasn't finished. So then she had to get back into drag while we're at the meet and greet. And then we were doing the mean grid over on the side.

[Kim Chi]

First of all, we were in the dark. There was no lighting, so we were in complete pitch black. And then all of a sudden, we see the promoter go towards the middle of the room. Room turns on light. And then we see these, like, crazy lights being set up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, this is all true.

[Kim Chi]

And then here he comes, holding Valentina.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To a separate meet and greet space. And because this is. She has a big following in. In Madrid. Everyone leaves our meet and greet. They go, valentina. So they're all running over to Valentina, and we're over here in the complete.

[Kim Chi]

Dark in the wall, and Valentina is on their spotlight.

[Monet X Change]

That's hilarious.

[Kim Chi]

Like, fully glammed up all of a sudden.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So. So all the girls are hot. And then. Then as I'm hosting, I get off stage and Brennan Voss goes, oh, just so you know, Valentina don't go out with her number because she's gonna be doing an extra number.

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So then Valentina performs her number, which is a beautiful number.

[Monet X Change]

This was. This was when y' all doing the, The.

[Kim Chi]

The.

[Monet X Change]

The. The flying one. When she did, like the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, she was doing Echelante, where, Where you. It was an orange dress and you pull it out and then she has this like, thing and it takes up, like, obviously.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah, that was like the flying one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The flying one. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Fine thing. I thought you said she. Cause I know Aquarius be flying now. So then. So then the number's over. She talks to the crowd in Spanish. And then a song just starts and Detox is waiting to go on. Detox is standing on the side and she's like, oh, she's talking. Okay. You know, no big deal. She's talking, baby. When that song started, Detox. Detox is wearing this, like, latex. The only thing you can see is her face.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, I remember that outfit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So it is incredibly hot. She is so.

[Monet X Change]

She definitely did Madonna best.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sex or no. Erotic. Erotic, Erotic. You put your hands.

[Kim Chi]

I think it was like a mega mix.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't remember. Summer Donna Mega mix. And she's. I mean, when I tell you Detox is. You can see the heat rising off of this outfit as she realized. Cuz you don't want to be up in your outfit longer, especially latex. Yeah. So she went bananas. And I'm over here watching. I'm holding. I was ready to go back on. Like, this is insane. Yeah, it was crazy.

[Kim Chi]

When I tell you, like, the backstage that day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

Was like the most intense. Like, everyone was like screaming at Valentina for like all the shenanigans. And then the fans broke into the dressing room.

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right. I forgot about that.

[Monet X Change]

Broken to the dressing be like, oh.

[Kim Chi]

My God, Latrice, I love you. And then.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

L just go, no, get out. Cuz Latrice was hot.

[Monet X Change]

How did they break into the dressing room?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Girl, they just got. They just got.

[Kim Chi]

There was no security. They just broke in.

[Monet X Change]

Gag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They just got in and they. Then they started going off on the girls and Latrice went. Was. When I tell you. Latrice lost It. When Valentina. Shut up. Had a private meet and greet. So Latrice was the first one to storm out of our meet and greet. And then we all were like, well, it. We're gonna leave. So we. We stormed out of the meet and greet because everyone left us to go take pictures of Valentina. And then Detox got mad when Valentina did her second number and then back, it was just like, oh, and then.

[Kim Chi]

There was also the baby. We're all Madrid, remember?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, baby, we're all Madrid. Like, cuz someone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Someone was like, what?

[Kim Chi]

No, so we were like, assigned different cities and. And Valentino was like, you know, like, Madrid.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Kim Chi]

So then backstage, Valentino goes like, I'm Madrid. You know, and then Shangela all of a sudden goes like, no, baby, we're all in Madrid together. We're all in Madrid. But Valentine's like, no, I'm Madrid. He's like, no, we're all in Madrid. This is not your show. It just like escalated out of nowhere.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can. That was crazy. All right, so you have two books coming out. We have Donatella, Donatella Hamachi and the Library of Vigils coming out on October 14th. And we have Kimchi Easterworld coming out on October a week later.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. So by the time you're listening to this podcast, the books are probably out. But even if it's early or whatever, please pre order because it helps us, you know, small alters a lot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where can they. Where can they get it from?

[Kim Chi]

Any. Any place where you can get fabulous books from?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There it is.

[Kim Chi]

Yeah. The young adult novel Donitabamachin, the library Avengers, and then Kimchi's the World is the cookbook streaming service Affection. They reached out saying they want to buy the film rights to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh my God.

[Monet X Change]

That's amazing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I play my character?

[Monet X Change]

Yes, thank you.

[Kim Chi]

Absolutely.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Since it's my likeness, I think I will be playing Blob the drag thing. And those libraries are going down. And with that note, thank you for coming on our show. Give it up for giving everyone.

[Kim Chi]

Hey.

[Monet X Change]

Love you, Kim.

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