The One About Lizzo

Summary

Sibling Rivalry – "The One About Lizzo"

Episode Date: April 1, 2025
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen, Monét X Change
Guest: Lizzo

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Episode Overview

In this energetic, hilarious, and insightful episode, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change welcome pop superstar Lizzo for an in-depth conversation ranging from pop diva hierarchies and the cultural politics of genre, to body positivity and Lizzo's creative process. The trio’s infectious chemistry keeps things lively as they swap drag and music stories, talk about Gen Z versus Millennial pop icons, and playfully quiz Lizzo with a rapid-fire segment. Lizzo also teases her new musical direction and gives fans plenty of memorable moments and quotables.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Generational Pop Diva Debate

[01:25 - 04:07]

• Bob starts by poking fun at generational conflicts online:

  "All of your favorite pop stars are millennials. It's true."

• Lizzo articulates her view that Janet Jackson is the original "Queen of Pop":

  "Britney Spears is doing a Janet impression, and she said it. Janet is her diva... There were no such things as pop divas before Janet. Janet was first." [03:28]

• The group discusses the ‘diva hierarchy’:
  • Madonna as the 'Queen', Janet as the ‘original diva’, Cher as ‘grandmother pop’, and the place of contemporary singers.
• They touch on the male pop singer "shortage" and the different titles bestowed on Michael Jackson, Bruno Mars, etc.

Defining 'Pop Music' & Genre Politics

[05:36 - 06:39]

• Lizzo gets candid about genre boundaries:

  "If we're really gonna go there, genre is racist, right? It was found [to segregate] black people… inventing rock and roll..." [06:04]

• She and the hosts agree anything popular or influential can be considered pop.
• Discussion of genre reclamation, especially by black artists.

The Influence of Lizzo’s Music

[06:41 - 07:17]

• Monét proudly shares her record for most Lizzo Drag Race lip syncs.
• Lizzo recounts hearing her influence across pop, regardless of chart dominance:

  "Influence don't always mean popular. Because the people who are making the popular music are listening to everything. And then it informs their music. And so I heard my sound everywhere." [07:05]

• Bob reminisces about seeing Lizzo perform at DragCon 2018 and tipping her, linking Lizzo's early years to her current status.

Drag Lineage & Relationships

[08:53 - 09:35]

• Lizzo has some confusion about who her "drag mother" is—Kornbread or Eureka—and recalls getting her first corset:

  "She took that shit off and threw it, and I caught it like that. My first corset. That's the only way you earn your first corset." [09:28]

Favorite Pop Songs Ever Recorded

[13:03 - 16:32]

• Bob, Monét, and Lizzo each nominate "best pop song ever":
  • Monét: "I Will Always Love You" by Whitney Houston, acknowledging its enduring cultural influence.
  • Bob: “Get Me Bodied” by Beyoncé and “Blow” by Kesha; also shouts out Doja Cat's “Boss Bitch.”
  • Lizzo: “Hey Ya!” by Outkast;

    “Every pop writer … we gotta write our hey ya. They're all chasing hey ya and they never get.” [16:08]
    and “Single Ladies” by Beyoncé, for its songwriting and performance complexity.

Genius of Pop Artists

[17:11 - 17:44]

• Lizzo and the hosts praise both Mariah Carey and Ariana Grande for musical skills:

  "She writes all her own music. Vocal produces herself. She's at the computer, clicking." – Lizzo on Mariah Carey [18:42]

• They geek out about classic pop vocal runs and harmonies.

Lizzo’s Musical Background & Process

[27:14 - 29:36]

• Lizzo traces her roots as both a rapper and singer, and describes how her songwriting practice evolved:

  "I started off as a rapper. People don't really know that about me… Now, it's like a lot of guitar. Like this last album … is a lot of like starting with like a chord ... and then freestyling." [27:35 - 29:12]

• She emphasizes the importance of letting creativity flow naturally.

Body Positivity & Representation

[29:43 - 31:14]

• On body positivity and reclaiming space:

  "That's what the real body positive movement is and was. It's like I have a right to exist, even though society says I shouldn't exist … Body positivity has been taken and turned into something else. It's been commercialized." [30:20]

• Lizzo stresses it’s not about appearance but the journey toward self-love against societal odds.

Regional Identity: Is Texas "The South"?

[20:13 - 21:30]

• Light-hearted debate about whether Texas is the South, with Lizzo offering a nuanced answer:

  "When you say Texas, it is technically the South. But I'm more Texas. It's so big you have to be from your own region down here."

Spirituality and Protection

[24:36 - 26:34]

• Lizzo attributes her resilience to her family’s prayers and upbringing in the Church of God in Christ (COGIC).

  "I am deeply protected and covered. I have like a really ... my great grandma ... prayed over her whole, you know, line of grandchildren and great grandchildren. I feel very..." [24:43]

• Explores intersections of spirituality, black culture, and music.

Lizzo on Her New Musical Era

[48:08 - 49:21]

• Lizzo announces her new album’s direction as more rock/guitar-heavy, returning to her musical roots:

  "If you think about my music, it's so guitar heavy ... I think it's just me kind of leaning into it, diving into it more ... let me have a cohesive band, sound and give the people what they want." [48:49]

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Diva Distinctions:

  "Cher is grandmother pop. You ever seen Cher?" – Bob the Drag Queen [04:53]

• On Genre:

  "Genre is racist, right? It was found ... to segregate black people ..." – Lizzo [06:04]

• On Pop Songwriting:

  "Every pop writer in the studio ... is like, we gotta write our hey ya. They're all chasing hey ya and they never get." – Lizzo [16:08]

• On Drag Race Lip Syncs:

  "I lip synced to the most Lizzo songs in Drag Race history." – Monét X Change [06:52]

• On Spiritual Protection:

  "I am deeply protected and covered. I have like a really ... my great grandma ... prayed over her whole ... line of grandchildren and great grandchildren." – Lizzo [24:43]

• On Body Positivity:

  “My fatness ... my will to love myself and how hard that is as a fat person. That’s what body positivity is.” – Lizzo [31:14]

• On Her Music Process:

  "I'm a very free flowing person now because I do believe I make music to get a message out. ... I feel like I have a higher purpose so I just allow it to move through me." – Lizzo [29:36]

• On Straight Guy Divas:

  "I'm gonna give it to Michael Jackson. Like, Michael Jackson ... sparkle, the shine, the drama, the madness." – Bob [54:03]
  "Kendrick is a diva as well." – Lizzo [54:43]

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Fun Segments & Games

Rapid Fire “Frizzo/Wizzo/Rizzo/etc.”

[31:23 - 44:46]

• The hosts quiz Lizzo with quick, often playful questions, including:
  • Craziest hairstyle (Lizzo once wore her "voting percentage" in her hair) [31:52]
  • Alone in the woods: man or grizzly bear? ("I'd rather be with a bear, honestly." – Lizzo [32:49])
  • If Lizzo were in The Wiz or Les Mis, which character would she be? (She’s torn, but mentions Eveline and Toto) [33:58]
  • Favorite Snoop Dogg song: "Beautiful" [35:14]
  • Best pickup line: "Hi." (because her smile does the trick) [36:11]
  • Lip sync judge: Lizzo would have chosen Monét over Cameron Michaels [44:52]

Flute Challenge

[39:01 - 44:13]

• Bob and Monét attempt to play the flute under Lizzo’s guidance, leading to much laughter and (in)critical musical judgments.
• Lizzo demonstrates open-hole vs. closed-hole flute and shares tips from her flute background.

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Notable Timestamps for Important Segments

• 01:25: Opening debate on pop divas by generation
• 05:36: Is "pop" a genre? (Lizzo on its racist history)
• 13:03: The trio discuss the "best pop song ever"
• 20:13: Is Texas the South?
• 27:14: Lizzo discusses her evolution as a songwriter/rapper
• 29:43: Lizzo goes deep on body positivity and her audience
• 31:23: Quickfire “Frizzo” questions begin
• 39:01: Bob and Monét’s flute showdown, judged by Lizzo
• 44:52: Lizzo as Drag Race lip sync judge
• 48:08: Lizzo on her new album and musical roots

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Closing Thoughts & Takeaways

• The chemistry between Bob, Monét, and Lizzo is unmatched—playful, smart, and supportive.
• Lizzo stands out as both thoughtful and authentic, addressing heavy cultural topics (race, genre, body image) with humor and realness.
• The episode is a must-listen for fans of pop history, drag culture, and the ongoing evolution of mainstream music.

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For fans and newcomers alike, “The One About Lizzo” offers deep dives into pop culture, powerful affirmations around self-worth and artistry, and plenty of drag and musical tea—with the requisite shade and laughs these queens always bring.

Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

my name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[Monet X Change]

And I'm Monet X Change.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this is sibling rivalry. Welcome back to sibling rivalry.

[Monet X Change]

And today it's a very special episode.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're going to talk about pop music.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. You know, we are two pop girlies. We love pop music. We stand and we're gonna dive in deep with our girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Our girl. We gave birth to her. Our queen. Right out of my anal canal. Oh, my God.

[Guest 1]

Little

[Lizzo]

siblings and the babies,

[Guest 1]

not the mama.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was saying recently I was arguing with a Gen Z online because I like to argue.

[Monet X Change]

Not a Gen Z. That's crazy. I was arguing with Gen Z online

[Bob the Drag Queen]

and I'm saying actually, all of your favorite pop stars are millennials. It's true.

[Monet X Change]

Tatey McRae is a young. She's a young girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, but we have Chapel Roan. We have Lizzo. We have Beyonce. We have Beyonce. Xaga. No, she's a soft. A soft millennial.

[Lizzo]

I didn't know y' all was about to get into this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you ever engaged in the generation wars?

[Guest 1]

Constantly.

[Lizzo]

They're obsessed with us.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They are.

[Guest 1]

I'm on the defense all the time.

[Lizzo]

I don't want to be in this war. I didn't ask in.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But they, they bring us into it. They're like year young.

[Lizzo]

All of their divas are millennials.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Literally. Taylor Swift, Gaga, Gaga, Ice Spice.

[Monet X Change]

Ice Spikes is No, Ice spikes is Gen Z.

[Lizzo]

But guys, Cardi B talking about divas, okay?

[Monet X Change]

Divas, we're talking about.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, the divas are boomers and like the diva divas.

[Lizzo]

You're right. There's levels to this because when we talk about divas, we talking about Selim. We talking About Whitney. So pop, pop girlies.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Lizzo]

Ariana Grande.

[Monet X Change]

True millennial.

[Lizzo]

Millennial.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The only, like, pop diva who is not a millennial. Origin X, I would say, is Madonna. She's like the Queen of Pops. So Madonna is a boomer.

[Monet X Change]

She's a boomer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I think she's 65 years old. Not in a bad way. She's 65.

[Lizzo]

We love Madonna.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I do. I love Madonna.

[Lizzo]

I have to really clear up some shit, because people came for me on the Internet because I said, janet Jackson is the Queen of Pop. I said, janet Jackson's the Queen of Pop. And here is why I said, Janet

[Monet X Change]

is the Queen of Pop.

[Lizzo]

Britney Spears is doing a Janet impression,

[Guest 1]

and she said it. Janet is her diva.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Lizzo]

There were no such things as pop divas before Janet. Janet was first. She was famous when Madonna was a kid watching her on tv.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lizzo]

And I'm just putting it out there. It's not because someone is better than the other. She was just first, and she is Janet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I love. We stand there.

[Lizzo]

She invented this shit.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Lizzo]

Now Madonna is the pop icon, and I love Madonna. And we can't refute her influence and what she's done for pop music and for all of the divas. She's burst a generation.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we refused to. We refused to.

[Guest 1]

And I felt like I was fighting for my life.

[Lizzo]

Cause people was just dragging me by my ankle.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

One, the titles matter to people, right? So when you say, like, the Queen of Pop, Madonna is like the Queen of Pop. When someone says. When someone says that some guy is the King of Pop, maybe the Michael Jackson crew gonna slide in like, oh, Timona, don't say that.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I will say this, but where are the male pop singers, though? There aren't any more.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bruno Mars.

[Monet X Change]

That's Janet.

[Lizzo]

Before we go into the male pop singers. Can it. So Madonna's the Queen of Pop. What does that make Janet?

[Guest 2]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

What's Janet?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think Janet is like, I think the pop diva. The original pop diva. But wait, so. But how do you.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so Madonna's Queen of Pop, and Janet is just a pop diva.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's the original pop diva.

[Monet X Change]

But Jenna came first.

[Lizzo]

Okay, but who's Cher?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cher's the mother of.

[Guest 1]

Cher's the mother.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cher's mother. Cher's mother Girl said something about Cher's grandmother pop. Cher is grandmother pop. You ever seen Cher? Have you ever seen Cher?

[Guest 1]

Oh, no, I did, actually.

[Lizzo]

I saw Cher at the Met gala. That was my first Met gala.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, God.

[Lizzo]

I was like, is this What y' all do every year? I was in Shook.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, wasn't the Met gala where you camp where you wore that giant zapped coat I'm wearing? You wore it on the plane.

[Lizzo]

Yeah, the Marc Jacobs Marabou million feather coat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I saw you walking through the Delta 1 area. Bunny have to go to the Delta 1 area. She is with.

[Monet X Change]

I taught you about Delta 1.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She hasn't.

[Monet X Change]

You want to know Delta 1? I have a question, though. So what do you. So. Because you do so many different genres, right?

[Lizzo]

I love you, Madonna.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love you, Madonna.

[Guest 1]

The queen. You are the queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We stan Madonna.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, we stand Madonna. Because you, you, you. You go into 80s, you go into disco. So would you call yourself a pop artist?

[Lizzo]

I make popular music.

[Monet X Change]

You make pop music?

[Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Gather this bitch by the hand on her jee chip. No, you're definitely, definitely a pop.

[Monet X Change]

You're definitely a poppet. But you go into so many other genres all the time. You do disco, you do all of it. You know what I mean?

[Lizzo]

I mean, but so does Beyonce. She reclaims genre. Cause she reclaimed country.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah.

[Guest 1]

You know what I mean?

[Lizzo]

So I don't think it's. If we're really gonna go there. Genre is racist, right?

[Monet X Change]

100%.

[Lizzo]

It was found black people. Because we were making. Literally inventing rock and roll. And.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Rock and roll.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Guest 1]

Hello.

[Lizzo]

And they needed to put us in a. They were segregating us in the music space. So the genre thing and what pop is, is this nebulous thing because they wanted to give people their own thing.

[Guest 1]

They giving their own thing. That didn't really make no sense. It's just pop.

[Lizzo]

So anything that's popular at the time, anything that influences people.

[Monet X Change]

Hello.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's the pop music.

[Lizzo]

Can we talk about the influence of Juice that had on the. On.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know. Juice was a massive, massive, massive song.

[Monet X Change]

100% huge hit.

[Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I lip synced to it on All Stars 5 when I was a lip sync assassin.

[Guest 1]

Hello.

[Monet X Change]

I lip synced to the most Lizzo songs in Drag Race history.

[Lizzo]

Right.

[Monet X Change]

You could never. Honey. And I won. And I tore it up both times.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To be fair, I was on drag race like 10 years ago. So. Yeah, it was, it was. It was not that. Okay.

[Lizzo]

And influence don't always mean popular. Because the people who are making the popular music are listening to everything. And then it informs their music. And so I heard my sound everywhere.

[Guest 1]

I was like, okay, that sound like me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like a hipster. Cause I was one of those OG Lizzo fans. I was very much into phone. I was very much like, coconut oil was my jam. I was there for the. Bye bye bitch.

[Guest 1]

Bye, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I don't know if you remember this or not. There's probably no way you remember this. You were performing at DragCon, I want to say 2018 in New York City.

[Lizzo]

Damn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I went and I was at my booth and I think I heard foam. I was like, oh my God. So I left my booth.

[Monet X Change]

You borrowed a dollar from me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I borrowed a dollar from Monet, which I will never pay back.

[Monet X Change]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then I ran over, I went over to Monet because Monet didn't happen on her line. So I felt bad. And then I came over to you and I tipped you a dollar while you were up there performing. And everyone was like, oh my God.

[Guest 1]

Cause they were like, what?

[Lizzo]

I remember I had the cone breast. Madonna.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In homage to Madonna, a black woman created the cobra. The cone bra.

[Monet X Change]

Come on. Really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

People think people was known about Gaultier, but Gaultier, It's a whole thing. There's a whole thing happening on Tikt was the idea behind Madonna's first Home Raw.

[Shopify Announcer]

Oh, really?

[Lizzo]

The way my jaw remained locked.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Lizzo]

The TMJ that had on my jaw because you know the book Black people invented everything.

[Guest 1]

Ooh, Clock it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Amazing. But yeah, I remember. I remember tipping you there and being like. Cause I've just been a Lizzo fan for. I also love, like especially in your early years, how camp and like phone is just such a.

[Monet X Change]

So punty.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's so silly. It's so fun.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know where I'm going.

[Guest 1]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know where I'm going. I mean, your song.

[Monet X Change]

So many queens use your songs in mixes. Like, I don't know if you're familiar with like drag mixer where they take a little piece of this and put some audio. She's a drag queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Amazonia Prime.

[Monet X Change]

Amazonia.

[Guest 1]

Thank you.

[Lizzo]

Somebody did their research.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Somebody did.

[Monet X Change]

We little. Anyway. But Corbin is your drag mother. How Corbin, your drag mother win? You have Bob and Monet right here.

[Lizzo]

Wait, Bread is my mother?

[Monet X Change]

Kornbread.

[Lizzo]

When did that happen?

[Monet X Change]

Wasn't Kornbread the snack Jatae who was at the show when you became Amazonian prime that night? The Night of a Thousand Lizzoes.

[Lizzo]

I remember that.

[Monet X Change]

Uh huh.

[Lizzo]

I thought Eureka was my mom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did Eureka give you a corset?

[Lizzo]

Cause Eureka gave me my first corset.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You end up wearing it somewhere. I Did you wear it on Drag Race or something? See, I did. I do the research.

[Lizzo]

No but she threw it at me,

[Guest 1]

and I caught it.

[Lizzo]

On Drag Race, I think they left it out. The edit. Blame it on the edit clip.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But she went and tossed it. You caught it.

[Guest 1]

She tossed it.

[Lizzo]

Cause I was like, I want that corset. And she was like, bitch, you could have it. And then at the end, when y' all were dancing, shot 10 or, you know, I made the music play, she took that shit off and threw it, and I caught it like that. My first corset. That's the only way you earn your first corset. I catch it up the air like Excalibur. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I remember when we.

[Monet X Change]

It was 2022 or 2023 when you and I went to Indianapolis to go to your concert, which was fucking amazing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everything I've only seen, maybe, like, I've seen four arena tours. I saw Renaissance.

[Lizzo]

Okay. That's a stadium.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Stadium. True. I saw Damn. Kendrick Lamar.

[Lizzo]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I saw Madonna's Rebel Heart.

[Lizzo]

Yeah, of course.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I saw yours. Those are the only four, like, stadium slash arena shows I've ever seen.

[Lizzo]

Am I one of your divas?

[Guest 1]

You are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, you are one of my divas. I'm a big Lizzo fan.

[Lizzo]

Everything that is, like, huge.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've been a Lizzo fan for a long time. Can I tell you something happened the other day?

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was at a party. It was very Hollywood. I was at a party, and I was walking around, and then I saw this beautiful woman sitting on the couch. And I was like, oh, my God, this woman's so stunning. And I knew who she was, and she looked at me and she goes, now, as a rule, I do not let people call me to them.

[Monet X Change]

Very fair. You had some. I was trying to get your attention

[Bob the Drag Queen]

to tell you something. It was another beautiful woman. As a rule, I don't let people call me to them. I remember. If you want me to talk to you, you come over. Anyway. It was making me tell you. So I went over. I was like. I was like, I'm not gonna be like, bitch, you come here. So I walked over. She was like, I loved you on the Traitors. You were so great. Yada, yada, yada. She's going on a moment. She loves me, loves me, loves me. And she was like, we play the Traders all the time. She's sitting next to Paris Hilton.

[Guest 1]

We.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We play Traders all the time. And I was like, oh, my God. You should invite me over. Let me give you my number. She's not giving her.

[Monet X Change]

She's like, I give her my number.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She like, anyway,

[Lizzo]

Anyway, thanks to Paris Hilton is crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They were sitting. They were sitting, right.

[Lizzo]

You dropped something, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They play traitors all the time, apparently.

[Lizzo]

Oh, crazy. But do I say, how do you play traders?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, listen, me and. Okay, well, me and Monet. Mon doesn't know she's part of the planning yet, but I'm planning this big.

[Monet X Change]

She always planned parties at my house.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, this is true. Monet has a bigger house than I do, so. And I hosted Monet for years.

[Lizzo]

Y' all really siblings, huh?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, twins.

[Lizzo]

We came out the same hole in the same age.

[Guest 1]

21.

[Lizzo]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So we're planning this big train. So basically, you ever played Mafia or anything like that?

[Guest 1]

I did.

[Lizzo]

I finally did with Kai Sanat.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Guest 1]

Mafia. Yes.

[Lizzo]

Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, that's right. Yeah, that's right, that's right, that's right, that's right. That's all it is.

[Lizzo]

I just learned. Very scary.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's basically mafia. The whole game is just Mafia. So I'm gonna invite my friends over to this big. We're all going to pitch in, and then once you get there, if you're eliminated, you must. We're going to call you an Uber. You must leave immediately and you're gone immediately.

[Lizzo]

Yes, I saw Uber Black.

[Monet X Change]

No, no, no, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We do Uber comfort. Uber Cher.

[Monet X Change]

Uber Cher.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's going to be you next to some mother of three being like, I'm just trying to get my kids to work. Take three hours to go home.

[Monet X Change]

That's what we're going to do for that one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

That was really cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm planning to do this party and I was trying to invite Megan, but

[Monet X Change]

I don't think she's. Yeah, Megan's not interested.

[Lizzo]

DM her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, my thing is, whenever I meet people, I always say, let me give you my number. And usually they'll take the number. Even if they don't plan on calling. They'll take the. I'm gonna argue. My number. They don't always. They take. They don't. It's called. Which is fair.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. But I do take it down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Usually they take it down, but I still love Megan.

[Lizzo]

It depends on how it happened. You were like, hey, let me give you my number. Did she say okay? And then just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, she's kind of just kept talking. She was like, anyway.

[Lizzo]

You know how many people would try to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is true.

[Lizzo]

Give her their number, but I don't

[Bob the Drag Queen]

think she'd think I was trying to slide.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, wait, so what was.

[Lizzo]

You never know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not that I wouldn't.

[Guest 1]

You don't know.

[Lizzo]

You never know.

[Monet X Change]

What do you think is the best pop song ever?

[Lizzo]

Record recorded.

[Monet X Change]

You have the best songs ever recorded.

[Lizzo]

As a musician, when you say recorded, that's completely different than written and sung.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Lizzo]

So school be.

[Guest 1]

Ooh, ooh, ooh.

[Lizzo]

Wait a minute. God, there's so many that are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know.

[Monet X Change]

There's so many.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you have to go first. Let her think about what you go first.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. I think one of the greatest pop songs ever recorded. I genuinely think so. From my spirit is Sometimes by Britney Spears.

[Lizzo]

Sometimes.

[Monet X Change]

Sometimes I run. Sometimes.

[Lizzo]

Sometimes I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's called Sometimes.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sometimes I'm scared.

[Monet X Change]

No, I'm kidding. Not really. I think it's I Will Always Love youe by Dolly Parton, Whitney Houston.

[Lizzo]

Now, is that a pop song?

[Monet X Change]

I think so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was a pop at the time.

[Monet X Change]

It was popular.

[Guest 1]

Whoa.

[Monet X Change]

It's still influencing culture.

[Lizzo]

Okay. Okay.

[Monet X Change]

I think I will always love you.

[Lizzo]

I will all. Yes. And also, shout out to Max Martin sometimes I think he did the Britney.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, did he really?

[Lizzo]

Max Martin, I think, is in the lexicon of, like, greatest pop recording.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's kind of like what Quincy Jones is to, like, soul R and B.

[Lizzo]

Yes. To pop music.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Shout out Quincy Jones.

[Lizzo]

Wait, what's yours?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I have two, so I really.

[Monet X Change]

I didn't say greatest songs. Greatest songs.

[Lizzo]

Well, you gave two pop songs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You gave two greatest pop songs. You gave two. I. If you want to get me in my body like, get my body moving if you want me to get. I don't care I will be anywhere yeah, I will get up and start dancing if you play Get Me Body, the extended mix. I'm acting a fucking fool that's true. I'm about to act dumb I'm about to act stupid I don't care where I don't care what I'm wearing I'm gonna.

[Monet X Change]

I ain't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Whatever do with me.

[Monet X Change]

That's your.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And the other one is now this woman I live for. I live for this woman so much. She is to me, she's one of my favorite pop stars of all time. I feel like I'd be fighting battles, defending her, how amazing she is. I don't even know why I have to defend it, but blow by Kesha. When I tell you I. When I tell you Kesha is a true. She's a pop girl. She writes pop songs.

[Monet X Change]

But Birds of Prey, You've been going off on that for, like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not called Birds of prey.

[Monet X Change]

Boss bitch, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Boss bitch. Boss bitch, yeah. I so love Boss bitch. Oh, my God. That's such a good fucking song.

[Lizzo]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For me, it's Doja Cat's best song.

[Monet X Change]

Boss Bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. For me.

[Lizzo]

Yeah. We gotta put dope Said bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm the after. You've been the B4. I've been to sports, been the seahorse? Don't need the report, don't need to press on all of my Babbitts. I wear the hat and I wear the pants? I am advanced so I get advancing? I do my dancing castle plans and you don't be mad. Cause you had your chance.

[Lizzo]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love her. I love her.

[Guest 1]

The follow me the bar.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm Follow mew. No, I. So I chose three.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. You literally gave.

[Lizzo]

Anyway, there's only one real answer, and it's gonna be slightly disappointing because it is not a pop diva. But it is hey Ya by Andre Freeto.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, this is okay. I'm from Atlanta.

[Monet X Change]

Hey ya. That's a good one.

[Lizzo]

That is every pop writer in the studio. I shit you not. Is like, we gotta write our hey ya really good. They're all chasing hey ya and they never get.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's a few songs like that. Everyone's always trying to do their crazy by Norris Barkley.

[Guest 1]

Oh, that was the other song.

[Monet X Change]

Crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone wants to do a Crazy. Everyone wants to do a poker face. Everyone wants a poker face. Everyone wants a hey, y'. All.

[Lizzo]

A hey y'.

[Guest 2]

All.

[Lizzo]

And then my second one is Single Ladies by Beyonce.

[Monet X Change]

Single Ladies by Beyonce is a great song.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will also write this song only

[Lizzo]

because that song is impossible to write. I don't know how it was written. I don't know how it was sung. She's belting over gidgets and gadgets.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Guest 1]

You ever heard the name

[Lizzo]

over slinkies going down?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Guest 1]

They don't teeth.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Beyonce engineers be trying to test her billionaire, like, throw some screwdrivers in a tent. They see Beyonce can sing there. She like, I ain't. What are you doing Me tonight? Ain't never hooked no shit.

[Guest 1]

She the queen of singing over shit

[Lizzo]

she shouldn't be singing over mitts and

[Monet X Change]

pans isn't the thing. And she's. Yeah, she's got to scream the melody over. Never thought about that.

[Lizzo]

A belt. And then the harmonies that are on some. Something atonal doesn't even make sense. The beat doesn't have, like, any type of pitch center. And she's singing harmony.

[Monet X Change]

Listen, this is why I love you. Because you have a music degree and you talk about music like someone who studied music in college. I Love that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's almost like she studied music.

[Monet X Change]

It's beautiful. I fucking love that shit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My favorite part of that song, when

[Guest 1]

she goes, joe,

[Monet X Change]

why you gotta change our key? We were in one key. You are. Now you're singing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, Shocker. I can't sing in the key Beyonce sings in.

[Monet X Change]

Shocker.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Plot twist taking us out. It's okay to pitch it down.

[Lizzo]

Nobody can, girl.

[Monet X Change]

You pitch it out. That's what she did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did a performance with Elise.

[Lizzo]

You can.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's hear it.

[Lizzo]

How high do you go? Cause I know you do.

[Monet X Change]

Because, you know I'm a bass, so I can do. Yeah, but I can also the whole thing.

[Lizzo]

You have a Mariah range.

[Monet X Change]

No, I wish I did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You look better than Mariah Carey.

[Monet X Change]

I wish I did.

[Lizzo]

Oh, you think you look better than Mariah Carey?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You think you deserve. You think you deserve to be at

[Monet X Change]

her show in Vegas? I don't know her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, no, no.

[Monet X Change]

I couldn't. I wish I had a Mariah Carey range.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I. Emotions. Mariah Carey.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yes. Good God. I would argue Visions of love is her best song.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Vision. Somebody witnesses death. Somebody.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. It's impossible to choose. There are too many.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The best part of emotion is she goes.

[Lizzo]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

So I think the dogs across the street with that one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's impossible to sing, though. Mariah starts songs where people end songs like. She starts off songs like wailing in the top of the song. Just be like. And just so you hoes. No.

[Lizzo]

Right. You could never. And she writes all her own music. Vocal produces herself. She's at the computer, clicking.

[Monet X Change]

Also.

[Lizzo]

Ariana Grande stack.

[Shopify Announcer]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. When I saw Ariana doing her own stacks and all of her own pads for, like.

[Guest 1]

Shut up.

[Monet X Change]

It's so. It's missing.

[Lizzo]

Yeah. We gotta put some respect on these women's name.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What happened to all your groups you used to be in? Lil Lizzo and the Larva Inc.

[Monet X Change]

The Cornrow Clique.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What happened? Where they at? Is there gonna be a Destiny's Child? Is there gonna be a Dreamgirls Come out one day based on your life. Where did Lara ink at? Where did Cornrow click?

[Lizzo]

You know, it's like my whole history. It don't count.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I'm saying?

[Lizzo]

Like, I erased my whole history. The cachet is clear. Everybody just moved on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's valid.

[Lizzo]

Everybody moved on, and I'm still at the restaurant. You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know that feeling. Have you ever worked at the restaurant before?

[Lizzo]

Have I? I've done every job under the sun. Every job I worked at Lapipe. I worked at McCormick.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And what is Lapeep?

[Lizzo]

La Peep is a breakfast restaurant in the South. And I was like, early morning shift, I was serving gang.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Gang.

[Lizzo]

The police. Oh, their coffee.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, no.

[Lizzo]

And their donut.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not giving them energy to arrest my coffee.

[Lizzo]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, good morning, officer.

[Guest 1]

Had enough for you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't take my pocket. Okay. You brought something. I want to talk about something. This is a big area of contention on the podcast. I am not going to sway you and let you know what I think or what Monae thinks. I just want you to give your own answer.

[Shopify Customer]

Ok.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you moved to Texas.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Is Texas the South?

[Lizzo]

Damn. This is crazy, because. No, thank you,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

thank you, thank you.

[Monet X Change]

First of all, I saw you led Lizzo into that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did.

[Monet X Change]

I saw that, but.

[Lizzo]

Cause, like, when they were like, oh, I'm from the south, you think Atlanta, you think Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky. When you say Texas, it is technically the South. From the South. I got them diamonds in my mouth. Yes, of course. Like, oh, yeah, I'm from the south, but I'm more Texas. So big you have to be from your own region down here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's why I say there is nowhere in Georgia you can go where they're not. Like, I'm in the South. Any corner, any nook, any cranny. There are parts in Texas, you're like, I'm in the wild, wild west.

[Lizzo]

Yeah. Cause I'm on the north side.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I'm in Mexico. I'm in the wild, wild west. There's cowboys here.

[Lizzo]

I'm in Louisiana. Parts of the are just Louisiana.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But everywhere you go in Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, that's fair. That's fair. I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When Lizzo say it, it's fair. I've been saying in the podcast. No, because I'm from the south, because Lizzo represents.

[Monet X Change]

She gave us reasons. Why you just say it's the south and we just have to accept what you said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not this bitch don't listen to me.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I'm a bitch now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, you've been a bitch since I met you.

[Guest 1]

True, right?

[Lizzo]

I don't listen to my sister, Ira.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Do you and your sister go at it?

[Lizzo]

Oh, my God. When we were younger. Especially now. Now she like me.

[Guest 1]

Okay. Cause I'm cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're still young.

[Monet X Change]

This is what, 14 years? So we're 14 years. We're in the teens.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I met Monet at a club called the Ritz where Monet was there. Fresh out of college.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, Monet was doing stunts when I first met her. I should have known. She's on some bullshit. Monet used to act like she dated this other drag queen. Monet is the other drag queen for the plot they did. Yeah. Literally.

[Guest 1]

You see?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Listen, you for the plot of it. You the little sister.

[Lizzo]

I'm the little sister, too.

[Monet X Change]

Exactly.

[Guest 1]

The plot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They were like, we're dating. And everyone goes, oh, my God, Jasmine and Monet are dating. This is so. And we were, like, congratulating them, and then one day they were, like, kidding.

[Monet X Change]

Like, what are you guys talking about? We're just joking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is so.

[Lizzo]

Wait, what in the Gemini, what is your sign?

[Monet X Change]

I'm a Pisces. Gemini rising.

[Guest 1]

Woo. There it is. There it is.

[Lizzo]

You sensed it.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, but do you?

[Guest 1]

I don't. I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm a cancer. Gaslighting. Rising.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, you are. You are the gaslighter.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Pilot lighter.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Lizzo]

Wait, so you're a cancer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm a cancer, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Water signs.

[Lizzo]

Beautiful.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, we got a lot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's your sign?

[Lizzo]

Taurus.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Taurus. Oh, they're like, we're all good.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do the tourists do? Are they, like, strong and, like, Taurus are very strong.

[Monet X Change]

Very, very like you. You know what you want. You know how you're gonna get it? You, like. You're very bullheaded.

[Lizzo]

Bullish.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, bullish.

[Lizzo]

Like stubborn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you squat at the gym?

[Lizzo]

Do I squat?

[Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Squat like.

[Guest 1]

Oh, let me tell you something. That question. You don't know where I'm from. You don't know what I've been through.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't tell your face when I've been through, mister. All my life.

[Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All of my life, I sit you in a building.

[Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Lizzo]

Wow. I have a whole completely different answer to that.

[Monet X Change]

The way you were like, do I squat?

[Lizzo]

Listen, I used to, but that was the early 2000s.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But at the gym, do you squat?

[Lizzo]

Yeah, I have a. I got a finicky back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ok.

[Lizzo]

I did too much horse heels, the finicky knee, twerking. I have a twerk injury.

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're tossing a lot of ass around dragging a wagon.

[Lizzo]

I used to throw this ass so much.

[Monet X Change]

You sure did.

[Lizzo]

And mind you, before throwing ass, ass was pedestrian.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, pedestrians.

[Lizzo]

People were, like, shook. They were like, wait a minute.

[Guest 1]

I didn't even know it could. You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You have a lot of ass.

[Guest 1]

I was like, I don't want to

[Lizzo]

show my ass anymore. Because I'm like, I kind of want you to earn it a little Bit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's that with the old videos?

[Guest 2]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lizzo]

Should I not show?

[Guest 1]

You got the old video.

[Lizzo]

I used to be damn near naked on the Internet.

[Monet X Change]

So are you like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you're like, you're naked on your album cover?

[Lizzo]

I love it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Damn near.

[Guest 1]

I love a theme.

[Lizzo]

What can I say?

[Monet X Change]

So you're not going back to twerking on the Internet anymore?

[Guest 1]

I don't know why.

[Lizzo]

A man know too. I send him to twerk videos.

[Monet X Change]

Sir, I have a theory.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's someone in the world protecting you. There's some. Anytime. There was a moment where anytime someone comes against Lizzo, whoever comes against her, it does not go well for them.

[Lizzo]

Not. There was a time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It still happens.

[Guest 1]

It hasn't stopped.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There really is. I mean, I don't know if I believe in anointing and all that stuff,

[Lizzo]

but, like, I am deeply protected and covered. I have like a really. Like my great grandma, Mama Kirkwood. She prayed over her whole, you know, line of grandchildren and great grandchildren. I feel very.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not religious. My mom prayed over me and she said that's why it works.

[Lizzo]

My grandma truly does.

[Monet X Change]

Every time on the phone with her, she's like, I covered you in the blood this morning.

[Lizzo]

Hello.

[Monet X Change]

My grandma peace with me every day.

[Lizzo]

Hello.

[Monet X Change]

And trust me, I mean, something must be working.

[Lizzo]

Even if you don't see the retribution. Oh, it's happening.

[Monet X Change]

It's happening on a perfect.

[Lizzo]

And I don't have to do a level. I just let go and I let God.

[Monet X Change]

That's right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You religious?

[Lizzo]

I was raised in the Cogic Church.

[Monet X Change]

Kojik Church of God in Christ.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, So I. Kojic is y'. All. If y' all don't know what Kojic is. Kojic, educate em. Yeah, okay. Have y' all seen the famous video? I'm not gay no more. I like women's.

[Guest 1]

Women's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Women's women.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is. That's a small taste of what the Kojik Church. It's the pointy shoes, it's the shiny. They all dress like, tight.

[Guest 1]

The hats.

[Monet X Change]

Women have to wear skirts.

[Lizzo]

Church has to have to wear skirts. Can't wear pants. Can't go to the movies. Can't go to baseball games. Very 1914 rules.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So when I was. I was in a high school choir, we used to go to a lot of Cogic conventions. And Juanita Bynum used to be preaching there. A threshing floor. I used to be up there singing. Literally making me up.

[Guest 1]

Cause that's the biggest thing.

[Lizzo]

A party. You catch The Spirit. And you speak in tongues. Cause it's based off of a. It's based off of a chapter in the Bible. A chapter in the Bible. There's a scripture in the Bible that talks about being able to speak in the tongues and the Holy Spirit. And based off of that, there was a convention. I know I have a slight history about this. There was a convention in California in like 18 something, something based off of that scripture. He caught the spirit and started speaking in this language. The tongues of the Holy Spirit. And they built a whole church. They based a whole church off of a whole church. A whole church.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would go to a whole church. I don't go to a church, but I would go to a whole church.

[Guest 1]

I feel.

[Lizzo]

Well, let me not actually say what I feel like it is on camera.

[Guest 1]

I'll tell you later.

[Lizzo]

But I think that black people, especially black people in America, we're deeply spiritual people. And I think that we know how to create. I don't wanna use that word. Cause I don't wanna scare the religious

[Bob the Drag Queen]

people, but talisman, the religious people, they're very scared of me already.

[Guest 1]

Oh, that's so true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They can't stand. They're already. They're primed to be.

[Lizzo]

We have protection, I think, woven into things like even our hairstyles, cornrows and stuff like that. Putting little.

[Guest 1]

Oh, wow.

[Lizzo]

Where am I gonna put the rice and the mat to freedom?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hold it in my big ass hands.

[Monet X Change]

Listen, I've always been curious. How do you write your music? Are you Nikki? Am I in an armrest? Yes. Are you? This is.

[Lizzo]

Are you.

[Monet X Change]

Are you at the piano? Are you with the guitar? Are you melodies first? Are you lyrics first? I'm very curious about your process.

[Lizzo]

So thank you. She's a songwriter. Thank you for your curiosity. I really appreciate it.

[Guest 1]

I am.

[Lizzo]

Okay. So you know I started off as a rapper.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Lizzo]

People don't really know that about me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You said that. You were like, I can't believe I won this award. I consider myself a rapper.

[Lizzo]

Hello. I got dragged on these.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you are a rapper, though. You are, you are. You're okay. Worship that flow. No, I ain't talking about my work. I'm gonna add it all up while

[Monet X Change]

I beef my purse.

[Guest 1]

Hello.

[Lizzo]

I'm in the Guinness World Book of Record for the longest number one female rap song, Zaya.

[Guest 1]

I didn't even know that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't even know Zay.

[Lizzo]

Yay, Yay for truth hurts. And so anyway, I got dragged. Cause I said me and future do the same thing. I Got dragged by future hype. I didn't even know we had a hive.

[Guest 1]

I got dragged this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That love the fight.

[Lizzo]

Yeah. But so because of that I used to start like very like lyric. I would like write something and be like, oh, I really wanna say this on a song, you know. And then I would listen to beats. Like that's really how I got started. And then as I evolved into like my musicianhood and being more of a singer now, it's like a lot of guitar. Like this last album, this new album, last album, this album that's gonna come out is a lot of like starting with like a chord. Like the juice is like just guitar guitar chords. And then me being like, hmm. And then. And I really believe like when I premeditate and write stuff down, it's just not the message. I think that I need to get my creativity from. Just has to flow out of you. So like I like to just freestyle whatever it is. Like in a minute I'm Anita's in a minim. That was a freestyle. You know what I mean? I'm like leave it.

[Monet X Change]

Really? That was a freestyle vocal?

[Lizzo]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, work.

[Lizzo]

I recut it to make it sound well.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, of course. I just came up with the dome.

[Lizzo]

Yeah, I was. Well, I was in the booth and I was just like. I was like just loop it. And I was like, in a minute. I'm Anita Mina Mena woman Na Manita. You know, I was doing that and then I was just like, that's it. You know what I mean? So I'm a very free flowing person now because I do believe I make music to get a message out. I don't just do this selfishly to be like I'm cool and I want to make cool, you know.

[Guest 1]

Shit.

[Lizzo]

I feel like I have like a higher purpose so I just allow it to move through me. So I'm very.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When I came to your concert, I saw that it is a really. You know what I really love about going to your concert? I love that people were like, it does not matter what society told me. My body looks like in this space. I can dress how I want to dress.

[Lizzo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I feel like.

[Monet X Change]

I mean I've gone to a lot

[Bob the Drag Queen]

of concerts, but I feel like sometimes the big girls, the people who are differently abled or if they're, you know, in a wheelchair, like I can't dress, I can't do that. I'm just gonna let everyone else have the fun. But when I went to your concert, it was like they really felt free.

[Monet X Change]

The Medium vibration in the room is love. It's like care. And that's hard to say to put into a thing, but that's just what the energy feels like in the space.

[Lizzo]

Cause that's what the real body positive movement is and was. It's like I have a right to exist, even though society says I shouldn't exist. Cause I'm big or I'm, you know, disabled or whatever. I don't look like the beauty standard or the norm. Like, literally, like, we feel like there's no room for us in. On earth, in society. And so body positivity was incredible because it gave us like a fight song. It's like, hey, I deserve to be here. Like, look at me and I'm gonna actually take up space and look how I wanna fucking look. Yeah, Body positivity has been taken and turned into something else. It's been commercialized. And it's like, oh, you fat. That's body positive. No, it's like my fatness. It's my, like, will to love myself and how hard that is as a fat person. That's what body positivity is.

[Monet X Change]

And now, and now you're. You're, you know, you're on a weight loss journey. Whatever. Now people are taking that into like. Well, she wasn't about. She was never really about body positive. Especially in the shade room. Get in the comments in there. Always.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can't go to the shade room.

[Monet X Change]

I know. We're gonna channel a little Tyra Banks. Remember that segment when she had Beyonce on? She was like, slayonce. Slayonce. Beyonce. Beyonce, your favorite.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're about to find out what it is. All right, here we go. We're asking some questions.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. Okay, Frizzo, what is the craziest hairstyle you ever had?

[Lizzo]

Excuse me?

[Monet X Change]

Variations on your name.

[Lizzo]

Craziest hairstyle I ever had. Crazy.

[Guest 1]

Oh, what?

[Lizzo]

It's been like, you know what? Oh, didn't like. I loved this hairstyle, but I'll tell you one, that was the most wild. I was doing like a voter campaign and I think I found, like, I found the percentage of how many people didn't vote in the past election. It was like 49% or something. Let's say that. And I was like, I want the 49% in my hair coming off my head. And I rocked that. And I thought that was just so fab. I love that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, Grizzo, would you rather be in the woods with a man or a grizzly bear? In the woods alone with a man or a bear?

[Lizzo]

Are Grizzly bears. Brown.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're brown. They're the brown ones. Yeah, but the big scary. The big.

[Monet X Change]

The big black brown. Lie down.

[Lizzo]

Get down. His black fight back.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If it's a man with a. This is the big argument online. Would you rather be alone in the woods with a bear or a man? It never says green, but it's a man.

[Lizzo]

I think I would rather be with a bear, honestly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Every time.

[Monet X Change]

It'd be safer.

[Lizzo]

Yeah, you would be safer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bears attack when they're hungry and they're scared. Men attack when you don't like their shoes.

[Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Men attack when you don't give them your number.

[Lizzo]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

Wizzo.

[Lizzo]

He probably took you to the woods. He wanted to attack you. You in the grizzly bear's house.

[Monet X Change]

Literally.

[Lizzo]

Just get out of his house.

[Monet X Change]

Don't fuck.

[Lizzo]

Don't fuck with the bear's baby.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The bear won't follow you out of the woods.

[Guest 1]

Exactly. He'll be like, hello?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He'll be like, ron, nigga. What?

[Monet X Change]

When the man will follow you. The man is gonna.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The man will put an air tag in your wig and follow you home. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

You know this guy tried to put airtag on me two weeks ago.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It always beeps on your phone.

[Monet X Change]

I know. And my phone did a thing, and I found a little airtag. I didn't tell you this.

[Guest 1]

No.

[Monet X Change]

I found a little air tag in my hotel room.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't believe you found the airtag I put there.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway, Wizzo, if you were in the Wiz, what role would you woo? And you and gender? Gender doesn't matter. Any role.

[Lizzo]

Oh, man. Oh, man. It depends. Broadway, the movie or real life?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's a new movie.

[Monet X Change]

It's a new movie.

[Lizzo]

Oh, okay. All right. Oh, God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mike Lee's director.

[Guest 1]

Oh.

[Lizzo]

Ooh, ooh, ooh. Okay. I'm torn. I'm torn. I'm torn. I'm torn. I'm torn because there's, like, three people I would want to play. Add a pearl.

[Guest 1]

Ooh.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Guest 1]

Yeah. The wheels. Enemies. I love the yap. Da da da da.

[Monet X Change]

So good.

[Lizzo]

Evileen. I'm sorry. I got.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, Ganga. No bad news.

[Guest 1]

No bad news.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ganga.

[Monet X Change]

Last one, Lizzo. You don't give us three answers for the one.

[Lizzo]

I know. I'm sorry. I'm torn. I'm Toto.

[Monet X Change]

It's his version. Toto is a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is a singing.

[Monet X Change]

Is a singer.

[Lizzo]

Toto is a.

[Monet X Change]

Is the role a cameo?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Toto's gonna pull up her. Toto's like, right?

[Lizzo]

Toto pulls up. She always. Where she not supposed to be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Here we go. How about this? Blizzo? What's the coldest place you have ever?

[Lizzo]

Minnesota.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Minnesota is cold.

[Monet X Change]

Minnesota, Chicago. That is a different. She's like, you're from New York. I'm like, it's different.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it's a cold in your body.

[Lizzo]

It's in your bones. My eyelashes froze on a sunny day. A blue sky. It was my first, like, winter living there. And I was like, ooh. I walked to the store. My eyelashes froze up.

[Monet X Change]

No way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't do that.

[Lizzo]

The sun was in the sky, not a cloud.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I used to live there. It's tough.

[Lizzo]

Oh, God, it's tough.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, a shizzo.

[Lizzo]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

What's your favorite Snoop Dogg song?

[Lizzo]

Oh, my goodness. Snoop Dogg.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Snoop Dogg for Shizzle, my nizzle.

[Lizzo]

Beautiful, beautiful.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You remember Snoop Lyon? What?

[Lizzo]

I remember Snoop lion for a little bit.

[Monet X Change]

Snoopy Lion.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, now he's kind of. Now he's like, trumpy.

[Monet X Change]

I know, but we gonna act like the last two years ain't happened.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you believe it?

[Lizzo]

A lot has changed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Especially when he was like, let me find out what coon ass nigga I want for Donald Trump so I can clown your coon motherfucker. And then he's like, anyway. Get it. I'm like, this is crazy.

[Lizzo]

A. Ooh, the.

[Monet X Change]

This one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, Rizzo, what's your best pickup line?

[Lizzo]

I actually have so much riz, I can get any N out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I believe that.

[Lizzo]

That is crazy big. Medium big. Anything, bitch. I. What's the best way I ever picked up somebody? I got some good ones, too. Damn.

[Monet X Change]

I don't have Pick one.

[Lizzo]

This is gonna be so bad. I feel like such a basic platinist. But I think my best move is always hi.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, just, hi, Lizzo. You have a beautiful smile.

[Lizzo]

That gets them every time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you are gorgeous. I would have told you that. You kind of have RuPaul's teeth. Has anyone ever shown you this?

[Guest 1]

Shut the fuck up. Cause that's my favorite thing. RuPaul's teeth.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You and RuPaul have the same teeth.

[Guest 1]

The little underbite. You're lying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The two friends, you and RuPaul.

[Guest 1]

I'm sorry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I see.

[Monet X Change]

I see it now.

[Guest 1]

I have mother's teeth.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I got it out.

[Guest 1]

I've been using Invisalign.

[Lizzo]

It's working.

[Guest 1]

It's just instead of, like, I just

[Lizzo]

had RuPaul's teeth molded in the Invisalign, so it's getting me there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There it is.

[Lizzo]

I got the RuPaul's teeth special than

[Monet X Change]

you know when we did All Stars? When I did All Stars 4. You did the demos for the song? Well, no, you did the actual song.

[Lizzo]

Oh, yeah. That was so fun.

[Guest 1]

Everybody say love. Oh, that's right.

[Lizzo]

You have danced to the most song.

[Monet X Change]

Girl, I am the number one.

[Lizzo]

Can we talk about your lip sync? Oh, wait, are we done with the game?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah.

[Lizzo]

Wait, no, we don't do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think I'm Rizzo.

[Monet X Change]

Which one was this one? Oh, yes, for the musical.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What was it? Oh, Minizzo. He met under Mizzo. If you were in Les Mis.

[Lizzo]

Okay, you know what?

[Guest 1]

Y' all should have seen it. That's a hard pass. If I was in Les Mis.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you could be a. Honestly, I think you could be a great Jean Valjean. Oh, yeah.

[Lizzo]

I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

Same. I've never seen it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Two, four, six.

[Guest 1]

So, one.

[Monet X Change]

You know, you have a very fast vibrato for someone that doesn't sing or can't sing.

[Lizzo]

Is fast vibrato an indicator of a good singer?

[Monet X Change]

No, no, no. He can sing and he has a fast. I can sing. Since when?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone can sing.

[Monet X Change]

Do you think everyone can sing? I don't think so.

[Guest 1]

Huh?

[Monet X Change]

I don't think everyone can sing. Everyone can sing.

[Lizzo]

Okay, everyone can sing, but everybody can't sing.

[Shopify Customer]

Good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I can sing, actually. And Lizzo said I.

[Lizzo]

No, you know what? I actually heard someone who can't sing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's a thing.

[Lizzo]

And it don't mean like, oh, you're singing and you sound bad. Cause I think somebody who's like, like, okay, you're still singing.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Lizzo]

This person would only. Could only talk, and I was like, sing. I'm not gonna reveal that information.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are they a famous musician?

[Lizzo]

No, they're not famous. That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was just asking. You don't have the answer. What is the name wrong with somebody?

[Guest 1]

No, you know what?

[Lizzo]

I think everyone has a beautiful voice. I think everyone has a beautiful voice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you.

[Lizzo]

Beyonce has fast vibrato.

[Monet X Change]

Fast Vibrato.

[Guest 1]

That's how she.

[Monet X Change]

Sobratos are really good riffers.

[Lizzo]

Yeah, that's her runs.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, her runs. Like, people look. It just.

[Shopify Announcer]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

It's like. It's like the vibratos don't have the word for you.

[Lizzo]

My vibrato's so slow. I'm not the run queen.

[Monet X Change]

Same. I have a Silverado, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have a Silverado.

[Lizzo]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you like to judge? Like, judging on Drag Race and judging competition stuff?

[Lizzo]

Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, great.

[Lizzo]

Oh, my God. What just happened?

[Guest 1]

Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

So we rented a flu.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is Craig.

[Monet X Change]

Sasha's. Sasha's broke down, cuz.

[Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Lizzo]

Fun fact. My first flute had the gold lip and that was my marching flute. Cause I just thought it was so cute. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So we're gonna. We're gonna test our flautist skills.

[Lizzo]

Okay. Cause I'm not putting my mouth on it.

[Monet X Change]

No, don't.

[Lizzo]

I don't know where.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There you go.

[Lizzo]

Honey, you're already wrong. There you go.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, so for the record, neither of them have ever played a flute before. And you're gonna see judge who does best.

[Lizzo]

Okay, so none of you have ever played a flute before. And I'm.

[Guest 1]

Okay, you're face like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You lied. I can tell by. I can tell when you're lying.

[Lizzo]

Yeah, you look a little smug. You look a little bit.

[Monet X Change]

So I have my undergraduate music ed and I had to take a flute proficiency class. But that's. That was like 10, 12, 13 years ago.

[Lizzo]

Lots of have you about to fox fluters. Oh yeah, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

That was like 13 years ago.

[Lizzo]

Yeah. Ooh, honey. Okay, wait, hold on, my friend. Okay, listen, wait, listen. Hold on. Don't. Yep. Nope, don't hurt her. There you go. And then that hand a little lower, but yeah, a little pinky should be on that. On the one that's jutting out.

[Monet X Change]

This one right here?

[Lizzo]

Yeah, that one. The one that's jutting out pinky on her. And then fill in the blanks with the rest of the fingers. Go up.

[Monet X Change]

But you know about that.

[Lizzo]

You're down, you're up. You're two up there.

[Monet X Change]

You just wanted to count to 10 yesterday.

[Lizzo]

There, there you go.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do it and I do it

[Lizzo]

in a different sense. And then pinky on that button.

[Guest 1]

Nope,

[Lizzo]

right here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There we go.

[Lizzo]

And then fill in the blank.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There we go.

[Lizzo]

Okay, now the head joint is wrong.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was trained screw it up by

[Lizzo]

a non conventional Monet about to shit on you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'm not. First of all, Jethro Tow taught me how to flute.

[Monet X Change]

Jethro Toll.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jethro Toll.

[Guest 1]

You know what's so crazy?

[Lizzo]

That's the blackest shit I ever heard in my life. Cause why did we call him Jethro Toll? His name is Ian Anderson, but we. My daddy would call him Jethro Toll. Cause it's a black ass name. We'd be like, yeah, you need to play flute like Jethro Tol. Yeah. Anyway, here we go.

[Guest 1]

Oh, okay, that's a note.

[Lizzo]

That was a note.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lizzo]

Phantom note.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why is it not.

[Lizzo]

I know. Here, hold them all Down.

[Monet X Change]

First of all, your embouchure is all a math.

[Lizzo]

Hold them all down and then play

[Bob the Drag Queen]

don't throw your amasure.

[Monet X Change]

Looks great.

[Lizzo]

And then blowing it. And then just hit this key over and over. No, this one. This one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Guest 1]

This one. No.

[Lizzo]

This one. There you go. It's not trilling. You're not. Cover, cover this finger. Yeah, cover that. Y' all got an open whole flute. This is hard. Got a hard one. Okay, there you go. Wait, keep blowing, keep blowing.

[Guest 1]

Don't stop.

[Lizzo]

Okay, okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now feels like a different show now if you just are listening to audio.

[Monet X Change]

This is like happening here, honey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The open hole flute. I'm lightheaded.

[Guest 1]

Are you? I was like. Are you exhausted?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. I am literally lightheaded. I'm gonna faint. This is crazy.

[Guest 1]

All right.

[Lizzo]

Oh, wow. You're about to get shit in.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A lot of waiting on the curve. Am I, am I getting fitted on.

[Lizzo]

You getting like a little constipated pebble on.

[Monet X Change]

Not a. I'm giving you Andre 3000, honey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God,

[Lizzo]

my flute goat. Why y' all both playing the same note? What's happening?

[Guest 1]

Don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What we doing?

[Guest 1]

Oh, okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not like something dying. Okay, enough.

[Lizzo]

I know. Now I want to play.

[Monet X Change]

No, do not put your mouth on this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Put your mouth on this. Hold on, hold on.

[Lizzo]

Let me get a little napkin.

[Guest 1]

Y' all don't know before I play a food.

[Lizzo]

I need like scalding hot water. I'll dip it.

[Guest 1]

You think I've just put my mouth

[Lizzo]

on James Madison's crystal?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We'll dip you in hot water.

[Guest 1]

No. 250 year old old spit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that. Oh, oh, we got some sanitizer.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that would be great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Here we go.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God.

[Lizzo]

Okay, wait, I'm going to prove this out.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know the difference between an open hole flute and a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So the holes are open on the open hole.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then on the other one.

[Monet X Change]

The hole close.

[Lizzo]

Yes. So open hole close.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just don't clock that open hole. What of it?

[Lizzo]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Goosey at the house.

[Lizzo]

So I'm not going to go crazy. I'm just going to show y'. All. So an open hole is a little harder because you get a resonant sound. So the holes kind of make the wind resonate, but it's harder because you have to make sure they're closed. But when you lift your finger. Oh, it just. It sounds like the wind.

[Monet X Change]

It's sick.

[Lizzo]

Closed hole. They're already closed for you. They all look like this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Got it.

[Lizzo]

So you don't really have to be like, the way you were playing. You don't have to be very good at it. You could be like that, and you would still make. You would still make a sound.

[Guest 1]

So I love this. Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The vibrato on it is so beautiful.

[Guest 1]

Thank you. Now my flute.

[Lizzo]

Vibrato is fat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is very fat. I'm like, you have to judge us now. Who did better?

[Lizzo]

This is crazy, because you both were so equally terrible.

[Guest 1]

I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We'll see how victory.

[Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Lizzo]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, let's see.

[Guest 1]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

Wow.

[Guest 1]

You know, this is for when you got sent home the first time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Shopify Customer]

Yeah.

[Guest 1]

We break it up for that. Okay, Listen, I like your lips.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

I want to say who Lizzo Those you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cameron Michaels, right?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, me and Karen Michaels.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Listen, if you were judging, I'm feeling good as hell.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I'm good as hell. If you were judging, who would have sashayed away? Who would have shantayed?

[Lizzo]

You would have stayed.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you.

[Guest 1]

Absolutely.

[Lizzo]

You would have shantae all day.

[Monet X Change]

It was my third time.

[Lizzo]

Oh, is that.

[Guest 1]

I didn't have context.

[Monet X Change]

It was Cameron's second as well.

[Lizzo]

I didn't have context because I didn't understand, you know, what I thought it was? What I thought is, this is. Do you remember this? You know you broke the light bulb.

[Monet X Change]

I know I broke the light bulb at the end of the table.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, send this bitch home. I can't tell you the wrecking raffle drag.

[Lizzo]

I feel like when you broke the light bulb, Ru was like. I was like, oh, did I try

[Monet X Change]

to be cute and run up stage and do, like, come back?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I remember you just split ass on these boats slipping.

[Monet X Change]

Ooh, my size shoes.

[Lizzo]

Mama did not like that. I said, ooh, budget. I think it was that. Cause I was genuine. I was shocked.

[Guest 1]

I was like, no.

[Lizzo]

I was like, I like her, but validation. Setting the record.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm a big Monet fan. I'm the president of the Monation.

[Guest 1]

Also.

[Lizzo]

I love the Monation.

[Monet X Change]

The Monation and versus the Bobbleheads. That's what Bob's fans are called.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The Bobbleheads.

[Guest 1]

The Bobbleheads who give it to our fans. Tell me.

[Lizzo]

So I've been calling my fans for years lesbians.

[Monet X Change]

Because I love that.

[Lizzo]

The lesbians.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like that.

[Lizzo]

But if you guys can think of

[Bob the Drag Queen]

a better one, I'll workshop some stuff in the break. Yeah. Yeah.

[Lizzo]

And I'll come to Traitor's Night.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

Are you gonna come?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Meg Gintner?

[Lizzo]

I'll bring Megan with me and we'll both shake ass.

[Monet X Change]

We do game nights and stuff all the time. We have a good time. Like, Nicole Byer comes to share. A lot of people come to game night. It's always a good time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it is fun.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kick it. Also, you know me and Monet well. Monae doesn't fancy herself a rapper.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not a rapper, but I do

[Bob the Drag Queen]

fancy myself a bit of a rapper, which is why I feel like. So I feel like we connect to you because you rap and you sing.

[Lizzo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I rap and you sing. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

So we're like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Our kind was fine.

[Monet X Change]

Also, I just love the celebrity friends you foster. Like, beautiful. Like, I feel like Bob and I have a very electric dynamic because we have the same energy. People like you and Sza have that same thing. Like, y' all have, like, that eclectic, like, that energy that feels lovely.

[Guest 2]

Yeah.

[Lizzo]

She's very me. I'm very her.

[Monet X Change]

Right.

[Lizzo]

I forget. Don't you feel safe in this? Crazy. It's just nice. She's like an anchor person for me because we've known each other for so long, like, before we were even famous. I thought she was famous when I first met her, but, like, literally, Z had just come out, and I was like, she's so cool. She knows Kendrick Lamar. And, like, watching her, like, blow up, I was like, damn. You know? So it's nice to have an anchor person for sure. Yeah. Well, I can get into the other shit, but people think everybody cool, but we don't all know each other. We're actually. I'm very boring. I be in a house. I got two friends hanging on by a thread.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said, it's all y'.

[Monet X Change]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would say my autobiography would not be as good as you think it is. It's gonna be me. I write jokes. I go home, I play Fortnite. I go back. I write jokes. I do a show. I go home, I play. I'm not doing anything crazy.

[Lizzo]

Oh, listen, the best part will be the beginning. I'll tell you that. Chapters one through five, when I was fighting for my life. Once you get into the industry, it's gonna be very. I went to rehearsal, literally. And then I got a massage. Cause my back hurt, literally. And then I went to sleep. And then I talked to my mom again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's the vaporizer you put on your face? What's that? The nerd.

[Monet X Change]

The nebulizer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then I use the nebulizer for three hours.

[Shopify Customer]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then I drink some throat coat.

[Lizzo]

It quelled my anxiety. Literally, again.

[Monet X Change]

We also have to talk about the new era. Lizzo.

[Lizzo]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

The new album is loading. She's coming out.

[Lizzo]

She's coming out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What a Rocky.

[Lizzo]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love that. It's a little rocky. I'm into this.

[Lizzo]

Yeah. I mean, I was in my first band that no one knows about was a rock band.

[Monet X Change]

I word.

[Lizzo]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

And you were the lead singer.

[Lizzo]

Ellipses. I was the lead singer. I played flute, I rapped. Those were the days. I think it was like 19 back then.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What was it?

[Lizzo]

Was it in Texas? This was like two years ago. And on that note, this was in Houston, Texas. Yeah. So going back to my roots with rock, you know, black people made rock and roll, so we're just, you know, representing.

[Monet X Change]

So you're bringing that. So you're recounting that in this Mule Zo era.

[Lizzo]

Yeah, but if you think about my music, it's so guitar heavy. Like, Juice is so crazy guitar, like, tempo. Starts with a crazy guitar solo. About Damn Time is very, like, funk and is led by guitar and bass. So this album, I think, is just me kind of leaning into it, diving into it more instead of being like, this record sounds like it, but then this record I'm, you know, is modern pop. And then this time I'm like, let me have a cohesive band, sound and give the people what they want.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love that. What I really love right now is, like, all the millennial pop stars, like, we're gonna let the gen z's have 2024.

[Lizzo]

I don't know any Gen Z pop stars yet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, pop performers.

[Guest 1]

Okay, pop performers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Serena Carpenter.

[Guest 1]

Oh, but is she a Gen Z?

[Monet X Change]

No, I think she's a millennial.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You tell us if Serena Carpenter is a Gen Z or millennial. She's 26.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, 26.

[Guest 1]

Oh, she's gen Z.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But then this year, Gaga.

[Lizzo]

But I'll say Sabrina. We all were on the same Team Vogue cover together. She might have been a little younger than us, but she from our class of people. Oh, work Me, Nas, Chloe, Halle, Billie Eilish. Even though Billie Eilish is Gen Z. Yeah. Billie Eilish is a Gen Z.

[Monet X Change]

She's Gen Z.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Las X is pretty young, too.

[Monet X Change]

He's young.

[Lizzo]

Yeah, yeah, he's. Yeah, he's young. Okay, well, maybe I'm just young.

[Guest 1]

Don't love me with y', all,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

you old assholes, you know? Ballad.

[Guest 1]

Yeah, because I think I am.

[Lizzo]

I was a little. My class of artists is a little. I came out 2020. Really? To the world. You know, I was doing shit, forever. But 2020 is kind of really. And that in my. If we had a double XL freshman class, it would be Billie Eilish, Lil Nas, X Me, Chloe, and Halle, Ariana Grande. But even though she's been out for a while, she was a part of that big Grammys 2020 class. So that's my group. I'm with Billie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you ever watch those, like, rap battles on YouTube?

[Lizzo]

Which one?

[Monet X Change]

The one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They'd be like. Like, I walk to the bitch. I go to the bar. All bars. I pull out a star. All stars. I clock your face. Break your own jaws. All s. One of those rap battles.

[Guest 1]

Oh, my God.

[Lizzo]

I used to freestyle rap all the time in battle outside of shows.

[Guest 1]

Me too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In high school.

[Lizzo]

So fun.

[Guest 1]

Oh, yeah.

[Lizzo]

Houston. What, you from Austin? Huh?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'm from. I'm from Atlanta. Oh, atl.

[Monet X Change]

He's from the South. South.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'm from the South.

[Lizzo]

Wait, so what do you know about Texas?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why you say Texas is in the South?

[Lizzo]

Oh, excuse me now.

[Guest 1]

Wait, hold on. Wait a minute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is how.5ft.

[Guest 1]

Wait a minute. No, Texas is the South. Thank you. Wait, how.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How did we. Flip flop, flip flop on this?

[Guest 1]

Ain't no Atlanta nigga gonna tell me I'm not from the South. Just a second ago, I thought you was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

True.

[Guest 1]

I thought you was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me roll my sleeves up.

[Monet X Change]

Now you see what I deal with twice a week?

[Guest 1]

It's like, hey. Only I can call it not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hold on, Melissa.

[Guest 1]

We can call it that. Y' all can't call it that.

[Monet X Change]

Jumps a few.

[Guest 1]

Y' all better put some respect on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone from Texas is Texas. So you see.

[Guest 1]

Oh, yeah.

[Lizzo]

No, I feel it.

[Guest 1]

It's a little disrespectful.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sweat folks on Long Island.

[Monet X Change]

Exactly.

[Guest 1]

And it was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is when folks from Long island say they're from the city, New York City, it's that.

[Monet X Change]

No, they're not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And that's what people from the south say Texas is.

[Lizzo]

Oh, hold on. No, the dude was given. I'm from Austin.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it never be.

[Guest 1]

Come on.

[Lizzo]

The gold bolero.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do I give Austin, Texas vibes?

[Lizzo]

If you were from Texas.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. And everybody's gay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love whenever. Whenever it wants to protect. I've learned this. When everyone's from Texas, they're like, where you finna go? Houston. Someone goes, oh, my God, I love Austin.

[Lizzo]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

People always do that. Where you from? Dallas. Oh, I love Austin. It's so great.

[Guest 1]

Really?

[Monet X Change]

We know what no other claims is. San Antonio.

[Lizzo]

Cause by the way, also, no one ever says they're from Texas. If they're from Houston, you gotta say different. I say, I'm from Houston. When someone says, oh, I'm from Texas, I already know. It's Dallas, Austin, Odessa, Fort Worth.

[Monet X Change]

Lizzo, having you on the pod, it's over a mother tucking dream. This is fierce. Okay, so you got to come and play. Traitors. Yeah, yeah. What else we get?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're crazy. Just so you know.

[Guest 1]

Crazier than Kysonite.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We take no crazy.

[Lizzo]

A real fight broke out. I had to leave. I was like, oh, like, y', all, this ain't a. This ain't a script.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's no straight. We don't allow straight men come over.

[Monet X Change]

We don't allow straight men.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, we allow straight men.

[Lizzo]

Amazing.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. No straight dudes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Unless they have. Maybe if they have an escort. And they have to be wearing, like, a collar. They have to be.

[Lizzo]

Someone has to be holding that to be some identification. Hi, my name is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Exactly. They're not allowed to speak at all unless spoken. They can nod and they can say this.

[Monet X Change]

And we also don't. They can't feed. They can't eat or drink either.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Lizzo]

Wow. Who's your favorite? Like, straight guy diva.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Straight guy diva.

[Lizzo]

Okay. I have one off the top.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, well, he's Bad Bunny is absolutely on the. In the. He is in the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I don't have one earring on. What the hell?

[Monet X Change]

How many punch she gave for your neck? I was like with Bad Bunny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. I mean, straight. I mean, I'm gonna give it to. I'm gonna give it to Michael Jackson. Like, Michael Jackson.

[Guest 1]

Whoa.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like Michael. When I. We say, like, the gloves, the sparkle, the shine, the drama, the madness.

[Guest 1]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're talking about living, though, because we

[Lizzo]

can't compare anything currently. I was like Prince or not all time is pr.

[Monet X Change]

I'm gonna say ceelo Green. I think ceelo. I love the camp.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That ceelo is very camp.

[Monet X Change]

And as a queen, Obviously, for me, CeeLo green and great voice. Great voice, everything.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I gotta be honest with you. I don't normally listen to a lot of straight men. And for the first time last year, for the first time, I think in the history of my Spotify rap, there was a straight man in my top five.

[Lizzo]

Who was it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was Kendrick Lamar.

[Monet X Change]

They're not like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Of course, for the first time ever, there was a. There was this.

[Lizzo]

Kendrick is a diva as well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you ever teach Cardi B about big girl coochie?

[Monet X Change]

And are you the fcc?

[Lizzo]

Let me tell you something.

[Guest 1]

She.

[Lizzo]

She be Telling the world about big girl coochie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is true.

[Guest 1]

She talks about it all the time.

[Lizzo]

Coocy, stay wetting like a big bitch. Every song she dropped, she name Drop her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She did.

[Guest 1]

I'm like, okay. She did show me a thing or two.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also go.

[Monet X Change]

One of my favorite things about you, Lizzo, is how camp you are are in your personality. But also, on the red carpet, I

[Lizzo]

literally walked in with, literally. You never say for nobody else but y'.

[Guest 1]

All. I'm gonna take this shit off and put on some giddy.

[Monet X Change]

The camp is why I think the gays, girls, and, well, the gays, them days are obsessed with you. Cause they're so the camp. We love camp.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We love camp. I mean, your show is so fun, so camp, so over the top. I believe it was Saucy Santana and Lotta. Lotta, who's from Clinton county, where I'm from.

[Guest 1]

Oh, nice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's a lot of rappers from Clayton County, Atlanta woman, Clayton county, the Midwest sun. I love the Midwest.

[Monet X Change]

Lizzo, we love you.

[Lizzo]

I love y' all so much. This was so fun.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, really, really. A hoot and a ho.

[Lizzo]

I could talk to y' all all day.

[Monet X Change]

Damn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We gotta come back.

[Lizzo]

Okay, let's do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We'll follow you around. You need groupies. Monet is very strong. She can carry stuff.

[Guest 1]

Oh, lift me up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And I'm. Or.

[Lizzo]

And I love that we're doing it in person, too. Cause I know y' all do the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're trying to stop it.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. We want to get a space, and we're trying to commit. Sometimes we can have a space.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was traveling for a while.

[Monet X Change]

I love you to do this. I'll be able to do this.

[Guest 1]

Yeah. Look at that.

[Lizzo]

Y' all are just magnetic.

[Monet X Change]

Really are. Tifa tried to dress like me today.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did not try to dress like you did.

[Guest 2]

You did.

[Monet X Change]

From the waist down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's green pants. They're.

[Monet X Change]

And what am I wearing?

[Lizzo]

Y' all got the chunky shoes on.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've been wearing big shoes.

[Monet X Change]

We win it from the same vibration.

[Guest 1]

She sees it, little sister.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Texas is not the sell.

[Guest 2]

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